Multiple Domains/Aliases... Single POP3... Reply All problem
Hi All, This one has probably come up a couple of times... I just don't seem to be able to find anything in the BUDL archives (I've spent the last couple of days looking). This is the situation. I have several domain names (for the same company) pipped into one pop3 account (they're all running on a single server, and are all related so don't need to be seperated). The problem is, if one address gets used (say [EMAIL PROTECTED]), and my Address in my pop3 settings is set to the one I use most of the time (at the bottom of the email), if I hit reply-all, it includes my other email address in the CC field. I don't want this to happen, so I have to manually delete the email address. Maybe an example would be good: ClientA ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) sends email to me on [EMAIL PROTECTED] and CC's his Boss on in the email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). If I hit reply-all, this happens: TO : ClientA ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) CC : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doing this results in duplicates to me (not needed, or wanted). Is there an expression about that can strip off that other email (I have about 4 of them) address? I know about creating folders, and setting identities to them, but this isn't what I'm after either. TIA :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bat is a virus. goodbye
On Thursday, May 02, 2002, Michael L. Wilson wrote... The program is there. The bat works 100% (after I re-setup the information). Only the data is destroyed. Michael Probably a little late in on this thread, just joined. I was thinking this was odd behaviour, not seeing it happen before, or not known any reason to cause it... then I changed a setting, and all BUT one folder in one specific Account folder emptied, and vanished from the file. The setting I changed was the Use this account for mailto:; from one of the other accounts to this particular account. Thankfully all the mail in this Account has been read/answered and no longer important... plus I have a backup at home on my mail server ;) Might be something the coders want to look into. I'm running 1.60c, WinXP, and was just about to post something about odd folder behaviour... I'll do that when I've restored my emails ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Dragging Folders and misc.
On Thu, 2 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried it; but it only works for folders within an Account. It doesn't work in moving Accounts. Does this shortcut keys Ctrl+Shift+(up/down) work for anyone else? [When I tried the shortcut keys, I see my HD spin with every press ofthe up/down key; but the Accounts folder doesn't move. Thanks in advance JM I cannot see how to sort accounts, unless you click the tags just above the accounts/folder box... it'll sort the accounts by name (ascending/descending alphabetical order), number of new emails, or number of total emails. I don't know if this helps any :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Moving Folders about
Hi All, Was going to send this earlier, ran out of time, and the mysterious vanishing emails ;) I have setup a folder called TBUDL (guess what for? ;)). At first I made it a common folder, not nested under any accounts, but when I went to send my first post to the list, it behaved rather oddly. Instead of putting it under the email account that the alias/identity for the folder matched, it put it under a different one... the the list handler bounced the email as it had the wrong From: on it (not the one subbed on the list), so I was moving it into the account folder that I was subbed under. It appears when sending emails when you have the folder as common, it either randomly picks, or uses the folder that is set to match the mailto field (which is why I changed it, as an experiment). Is it possible to set TB! to use a specific account for common folders in replys/posts, or is TB! going to randomly pick one? If it isn't controllable, this may be something that the coders may wish to consider for later development, just allow an extra drop down list on the folders page that allows the user to select which account settings they'd rather that folder use. I can see that some people are going to ask why am I not setting the folder under the account I want to use it with... the main reason is this, I'm on a lot of mailling lists (maybe 30 or so). Some of them can be grouped, such as interest, which is why I made them common folders... and some of the lists with a common interest (say UnderNet IRC network for example) have lists pointing to several different accounts. Normally I'd not have noticed this, but it only happened because of this list ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving Folders about
I missed a point on this email... or at least it didn't come out very clearly anyway... the folder had the identity set to what was subbed to this list (ie Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED]). On Thu, 2 May 2002, Jonathan Angliss wrote: Hi All, Was going to send this earlier, ran out of time, and the mysterious vanishing emails ;) I have setup a folder called TBUDL (guess what for? ;)). At first I made it a common folder, not nested under any accounts, but when I went to send my first post to the list, it behaved rather oddly. Instead of putting it under the email account that the alias/identity for the folder matched, it put it under a different one... the the list handler bounced the email as it had the wrong From: on it (not the one subbed on the list), so I was moving it into the account folder that I was subbed under. It appears when sending emails when you have the folder as common, it either randomly picks, or uses the folder that is set to match the mailto field (which is why I changed it, as an experiment). Is it possible to set TB! to use a specific account for common folders in replys/posts, or is TB! going to randomly pick one? If it isn't controllable, this may be something that the coders may wish to consider for later development, just allow an extra drop down list on the folders page that allows the user to select which account settings they'd rather that folder use. I can see that some people are going to ask why am I not setting the folder under the account I want to use it with... the main reason is this, I'm on a lot of mailling lists (maybe 30 or so). Some of them can be grouped, such as interest, which is why I made them common folders... and some of the lists with a common interest (say UnderNet IRC network for example) have lists pointing to several different accounts. Normally I'd not have noticed this, but it only happened because of this list ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TB! can not be a Virus (WAS: The bat is a virus. goodbye)
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: I don't understand how all of that data can just be deleted. I can understand that the registry entries are lost and thus the *location* is forgotten. Unfortunately, I experienced a 'similar' loss of data, whether from the same cause or not is something different. What the suggestion was trying to convey was that simply restoring the registry settings will also restore the *location* of the data. Have you tried it? Did you look in explorer to see if the folder structure and data files remained after the mysterious erasure? In my case, all the files (message.tb*) files were still in all the right folders, but the file sizes were right down to about 3-4kbs... opening the files just showed a load of non-viewable black characters... no emails at all. There is nothing technical here. This is all pretty meaningless. You don't say what you tried to fix it yourself. You don't say where you have looked or what investigations you have done. People try to offer helpful suggestions and you reject them without even trying them or saying that you had already done so. I know this isn't really targetting me, but I can give a couple of ideas I followed to ensure it wasn't my brain dieing ;) First I did a Restore Folders from the menu, just to ensure a temporary glitch hadn't just stopped TB! from accessing those files... Then (before closing TB!) I went to TB!'s directory, and viewed the contents of that account's folders, and saw the actual files were 'empty' (see above). This lead me to the idea that maybe a clitch occured (I am using XP after all)... and it appeared to run the 'delete' for the contents of each folder... at a guess anyway ;) You've jumped on someone else saying it happened once as vindication in a broken thread (that's Eudora for you - breaks threads - couldn't you have chosen Becky as the refuge? sigh) but it only happened to Jonathan *once*. You say it happens every time you use it. That's not the same thing. Nothing like. Agreed... the fact it only happened once isn't a sign that it is a huge flaw... In my case I have a number of possibilities to work on to ensure that it wasn't just a glitch in the program. I lost a whole load of mail folders during one of the beta transitions. They weren't lost. They were in the wrong place in the disk folder tree. That was because the way TB organises folders had changed. I moved them to where they should have been, reset the Base directory value and restarted. I didn't lose one single message. This is the first time I've lost any emails in TB!... it's been the best email client I have ever used... now to just see if I can get it to work with wine on linux ;) This doesn't help you very much, but you're not going to get much help unless we all get a lot more information to work with. Agreed... all the information is needed before a diagnoses can be made. A Doctor won't say you have a heart valve problem just because you have some bad heart burn that day... they'll do a full checkup... the more information we have access to, the better chance we have on finding what caused the problem. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TB! can not be a Virus (WAS: The bat is a virus. goodbye)
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Paul Cartwright wrote: On Thursday, May 2, 2002, 8:05 PM, you wrote: JA .. I managed to solve a problem with TB! JA closing itself when trying to compose messages, tracked it down to a JA corrupt history when typing in addresses. I'd like to know if there is a JA solution to the vanishing emails. I had this happen to me more than once and never figured out QHY. SO how do you get rid of the history / Paul Technically I didn't... I Just stopped TB! from using the history/recent items list when composing... As soon as I did that, it stopped closing itself. The odd thing was, it was resetting itself with all versions, so I knew it must have been data files somehow. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TB! can not be a Virus (WAS: The bat is a virus. goodbye)
On Friday, May 03, 2002, Paul Cartwright wrote... On Thursday, May 2, 2002, 11:28 PM, you wrote: I had this happen to me more than once and never figured out QHY. SO how do you get rid of the history / Paul JA Technically I didn't... I Just stopped TB! from using the history/recent JA items list when composing... As soon as I did that, it stopped closing JA itself. The odd thing was, it was resetting itself with all versions, so JA I knew it must have been data files somehow. so I went to Preferences-System and changed Autocomplete to JUST use addressbooks. I'll give it a try, THANKS ! I forget, was this ever posted as a bug ?? / Paul Personally I wouldn't have put it down to a bug at my end... I'm running XP, it does weird things most of the time ;) But it might be worth a look into. I've not tried turning it back on, or tracking down the file to see if I can find the possible cause yet... might do that today if I get 30 seconds or so ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving Folders about
On Friday, May 03, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... Hi Miguel, Try using the %TO and %ACCOUNT macros in your folder template(s). DON'T! Put tbudl into your address book and put the macros in the address book template. Okay... that is fine for this mailing list... but it doesn't work for the example I set where I have people (not always in my addy book) that email me at one of the aliases. Use of %TO in any folder templates is a very dangerous practice and should be done only in emergency - in situations where address book templates just can't be used: I use them all the time for numerous lists I have that I don't have the email address stored in my address book, and I cannot be bothered to type (TB! saves me a bit of work ;)). I've not seen any problems, and in some situations such as one of the lists I'm on, I have to CC the list as well as reply directly to the person... so I have a %CC in the REPLY option... hitting Reply-All isn't very useful because I then have to remove listname[EMAIL PROTECTED] which is a pain every time. stock lecture I have a pet hate in TB. That pet hate is named Folder Templates. In 150 folders I have two and only two that have folder templates. They are for two specific lists which don't set the reply address properly. Only two of the lists I am on don't set reply-to fields... and there is a reason for it... but a majority of the emails are supposed to be sent to the list, and the original sender... so I use %CC or %TO fields. It just makes it easier for me, I can simply click on the folder of the list I want to send to, hit the New button, and it sets the formatting, aliases/identity, who it is for, etc etc. This is one of the features I love about TB! It saves me a lot of work... and I've not had an issue with it before. There is nothing else for which folder templates can be used that can't be covered and even improved upon using Address Book templates. There are dangers in using Folder Templates that are not there when you use AB templates. The dangers are all complacency based and are at their worst in templates which use the %TO= macro. If, at the instant you start a new message you happen to be focused on the wrong folder, the message gets given the wrong address. This happens when you click a mailto without changing folders. The results vary from embarrassing to excruciating depending upon the content of the misdirected mail. I can understand that, but most of the time, I can tell straight away by the TO field, or the signature at the bottom ;) BTW - another mistake in such templates is to use the construct %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] without a %TO='' before it. So any pre-existing addresses are retained. I use the second in all my templates. Back to the lecture: every time I say this, someone takes exception to something I've said with comments like 'danger' is a bit harsh or I've used Folder templates for ages and it's never gone wrong for me. LOL... ps... I just did that... sorry ;) I can understand your comments though :) Here's a fact for you: it goes wrong. That's why I'm writing this message yet again. It works exactly as designed and that design has a fundamental flaw. The flaw is that it places too much responsibility on the user to make sure that the addresses given on a new message are those intended. With address book templates, there is never a mistake of this kind. Replies are perfectly directed. New messages are a bit trickier. Instead of clicking to the folder then clicking for a new message, you have to click to the right of the new message button and select the list address from the favourites (having denoted that the address *is* a favourite in the address book). But couldn't you type in the wrong email address as well? I do that more often than clicking on the wrong folder. Actually that is more a problem of my typing... I have quite a few people (let alone lists) in my address book... sometimes if I start to type an email address in, it auto-completes, and I don't read the rest of it... Unfortunately I have about 4 people that start with the same first name... and it always gets the wrong one. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving Folders about
On Friday, May 03, 2002, Dierk Haasis wrote... Hello Jonathan! On Friday, May 3, 2002 at 4:34:27 PM you wrote: LOL... ps... I just did that... sorry ;) I can understand your comments though :) You want to know the ironic part of Marck's statement? I have yet to say the one instance where the one talking about me never will not inevitably be afflicted within days - usually less than a week. Let's wait for you ... ;-) Knowing the way my luck has been running the last month, It'll happen in about... 5 mins or so ;) It's been running fine for about a year and a bit okay... so something is about to pop ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TB Hangs on Fetch
On Friday, May 03, 2002, Lynn Turriff wrote... Hi all - I have been migrating my old NT4 system to a new machine with Win2000Pro SP2, and having some problems with TB I can't figure out. I installed TB v1.51 to the new Win2kPro system, and imported my mailboxes. This seemed to go just fine, except that on loading, I get a series of error messages: Can not access directory I:\thebat Can not access directory I:\thebat\mail Can not access directory I:\thebat\mail\Lynn and so on .. these refer to the locations the mailboxes were imported from, not to the current locations. From an uneducated guess... that'd be your problem. It'd appear TB! is trying to read the old files which may not be there any more. So when it tries to fetch, it cannot drop the mail into folders it cannot see/write to. Which might be what is causing the hang. I OK them all, but on fetch TB hangs the connect after fetching a message, or sometimes a few messages, and that's that until I reboot. It hangs the whole connect, the browsers don't browse, either, past the first 25% or so of any page loaded. A reboot often (but not always .. sometimes it takes several reboots) fixes this. snip Some background here .. I'm running Wingate 4.5 as a proxy. Been running WG several years with no problems. Have one other W2kPro (SP 2) system on the network running TB 1.51, no problems, still have an NT4 (SP 6a) system up, running TB 1.51, no problems, and now one NT4 (SP 6a) system running TB 1.61, no problems. It's a peer-to-peer system, the file server/gateway machine is running W2kPro (SP 2). I know this is not related, but we had a hell of a time trying to get Wingate to run right on Win2k, with VPN setup ;) I cannot see wingate, or Win2k being the cause of the problem... I'd probably put it down to bad paths. So far I haven't had any problems sending mail, even when the fetch is hung. I wouldn't have thought sending would be an issue... it probably only attempts to store the sent message once, and if it cannot write it, it doesn't care. Also, and this may or may not be related to the previous issues, I can't get it to compress and/or compress and purge the trash folder. It hangs (program not responding) and sometimes returns an 'out of memory' error .. there's 512 Meg of RAM on the system, and Windows is not managing the virtual memory. I was thinking that the quick fix for this might be to delete the folder and hope that the program would regenerate it on the next start up, but will that work? I am not sure on that one. You may want to check the paths set in your program (and/or registry), and if they are incorrect, change them to the correct location. As for the compress/purge not working... probably the same reason for the fetch hanging... (see my top theory). Anybody got any clues about this? TIA, Lynn Hope this gives you some kind of an idea. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website regexp mistake...
Hi All,
Just trying to remove the PGP Signs and everything from the emails
that keep being posted, and I remember seeing one on TB! support
pages. When I tried to use it, it generates an error saying that a )
is missing. The one on the site has :
%quotes='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)((\s*)?\n?-BEGIN PGP %-
SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-*?\s*?--\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|-%-
BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE|\z)%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=4'
(All on one line of course). The bracket is missing (I'm guessing)
from just after the 'SIGNATURE' bit. At least it appears to work on
mine anyway. Just thought I'd point that out ;)
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Re: A lot of questions on various subjects
On Friday, May 03, 2002, Peter Fjelsten wrote... snip Maybe I just need to work some more with the editor - who know I mght even like it at some point in the future... I quite like it... it's not too bad once you have the hang of it. Getting used to the double enter was a little bit of a pain for about a week... then it was fairly easy to use. M TB is one of the few MUAs that can nicely reformat quoted text. Focus M into a quoted paragraph, press Alt-L and the quote prefix is removed, M the paragraph reformatted and the prefix replaced. I don't understand. What is this supposed to do? Take this for an example, you have your line wraps set to 72, they have their line wraps set to 80. When you hit reply, it screws up the formatting to the point where you end up with one full line, and one line with about 2 words on it. TB! allows you to just use the format function, and it tidies it all back up properly. snip Is it possible to change all the macro text when an account is changed? I mean, if I receive mail on Account 1, open a reply for it and change to Account 2, then the macro stuff is still for A1. I've noticed this as well... Would be nice to see if there was a solution. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: TB Hangs on Fetch
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Lynn Turriff wrote: Hi again .. The fetch hang seems to be fixed. My gratitude knows no bounds; in the usual way of things my system is up 24/7, and the rebooting was driving me nuts. What was causing it? Bad paths? Glitch? That leaves what to do about purging/compressing the trash folder. Try turning it off, running it manually... see what happens... if it still hangs, maybe it is have problems compressing white spaces (that is what I'm assuming TB! compress function is doing anyway). If this is the case, it may be something on your PC that could be causing it... maybe like disk compression (Double space) for example? Another idea might be your virus scanner (if you have one). It may be trying to read the file as TB! tries to read it (most scanners do that so you cannot open an infected file). If the virus scanner has the file 'locked' in a scan, TB! isn't likely to be able to compress it because it's being used. The program I write has a similar problem when dealing with the database... We advise our clients to turn of active system scans, but leave scans for things such as disks etc on... purely because the virus scanner holds the file locked for just too long. If you've got one... try disabling it. The paths all seem to be correct in TB's configuration and also in the registry. I'm still hoping someone will know whether it's safe just to delete the folder. Are you talking about deleting it from inside TB!? or on the HDD itself? I think the later wouldn't work, and you'll probably get errors asking where the folder is (depending on the type of folder I believe). I know if you specify a specific attachment folder, then delete that, TB! automatically regenerates it... but I'm not sure about other folders... it might do it for things like Trash, and Inbox... but custom folders I doubt... How about creating a dummy folder, dropping a copy of a couple of emails in there, so TB! knows it has data, then closing TB!, and removing the dummy folder... and reopening... see what the outcome is... It's a dummy folder, with duplicated emails... so you should have nothing to worry about. So I'll watch and wait ... tia for input! Lynn Friday, May 3, 2002, 11:25:08 AM, you wrote: [snip] Also, and this may or may not be related to the previous issues, I can't get it to compress and/or compress and purge the trash folder. It hangs (program not responding) and sometimes returns an 'out of memory' error .. there's 512 Meg of RAM on the system, and Windows is not managing the virtual memory. I was thinking that the quick fix for this might be to delete the folder and hope that the program would regenerate it on the next start up, but will that work? JA I am not sure on that one. You may want to check the JA paths set in your program (and/or registry), and if JA they are incorrect, change them to the correct JA location. [snip] Hope some of these ideas bring some inspiration :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: connection centre
Isn't there an option in the menus somewhere to view the log files? I think TB! keeps a 'temp' log file. Maybe that is what you are looking for? I'd give you a menu to where it is... but I'm at home, using Pine. ;) On Fri, 3 May 2002, Adam wrote: How could I review the Connection Centre stats after mail check? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: connection centre
On Sat, 4 May 2002, Adam wrote: On Fri, 3 May 2002, Ben Mills wrote: Friday, May 3, 2002, 10:18:20 PM, you wrote: JA Isn't there an option in the menus somewhere to view the log files? I JA think TB! keeps a 'temp' log file. Maybe that is what you are looking JA for? I'd give you a menu to where it is... but I'm at home, using Pine. JA ;) At the top your your screen, click account then click view log. Nope. That isn't the Log that appears in Connection Centre. View log just views addresses. That one has an icon, BTW, easy to locate. Ahh... I cannot validate this from here... using pine. I thought that log option showed the connection logs. I'm sure I'd seen it somewhere anyway. If I am incorrect, I appologise for the confusion. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Annoying address book limitation
On Sat, 4 May 2002, Miguel A. Urech wrote: Hello all, Up to now I had only used AB to include names and e-mail addresses. Yesterday I decide to start using it to include some other details like home or business addresses, phone numbers, etc., and I was completely annoyed when I saw I could not copy/paste from an e-mail (either in preview or view folder) into the Edit Address Entry dialog. If the Edit Address Entry dialog is open you can switch to the view folder view but can't highlight and copy anything and you can't even switch to the preview pane. Annoying, don't you think? You can't even use SmartBat as an intermediary for copy/paste. The only way I've found is to first copy all contact details to an external text editor and then proceed with copy/paste. I don't know if this has been reported or dealt with in this list before, I must admit I didn't even look in the archives. I don't know too much about Windows programming (it's been 10 years since I wrote my last line of code) but I think this is due to Edit Address Entry dialog being modal/non-modal (I don't remember which is which) and believe it should be something very simple to correct. Just in case, I will ask the usual: am I missing something? And, am I the only one seeing this behaviour? TIA. No... you're not the only one that has this 'issue'. I get it too. I'm assuming it's caused when they create the address book, as a seperate window... then when they generate the edit/add form, they create it as modal... when a modal form in an application is generated, that form had to be removed before you can go ahead and select the main window(s) again. I do a bit of coding myself, and come across this from time to time in my stuff. That is my assumption on it anyway ;) You are right though... it should be fairly simple to correct... but they may have put it in that way by design purely so that you cannot have several edit dialogs open at the same time... doing this might cause memory issues. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: OT: FTP clients
On Sat, 4 May 2002, Kai Göing wrote: Hi: I am looking for an FTP client that is basically as small, stable and fast as TB and offers a lot of functionality. Bloatware clients like SmartFTP or WS_FTP Pro are therefore out of the question for me. I've been evaluating several clients like AbsoluteFTP 2.01 (www.vandyke.com), Bulletproof FTP (www.bpftp.com) and the built-in client of Windows Commander (www.ghisler.com) over the last couple of days. In terms of size, stability and functionality, Bulletproof FTP seemed like the right choice. It is extremely small yet allows me to queue files from different directories and export my settings. However, yesterday I used each of those clients to upload a 10 MB test file to a local server using a T1 connection under WinNT 4.0 SP6. To my great amazement and despair, it took BPFTP over 3 minutes to upload that file (at an average rate of 40 kb/sec) whereas AbsoluteFTP and Windows Commander finished the job in less than a minute. I have repeated this test several times and the results did not change. So it looks like that for some reason BPFTP is much, much slower and I don't understand that huge discrepancy. Do FTP clients really differ that greatly when it comes to speed? I figured that there would be small differences but BPFTP being three times slower than the other two clients is simply unacceptable despite its otherwise outstanding features. Any comments, recommendations or suggestions? What is your favorite FTP client? So long, Kai To be honest... yes clients can have a huge difference depending on the way they connect. Try looking at the connection method, see if there is a PASV and non PASV mode. I've noticed that behind firewalls, and on some networking environments, those settings can cause some delay. I personally use FTP Explorer (www.ftpx.com) It's fairly small, and has most of the things included in it. Another bonus is it's freeware if I remember correctly. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Message Flag
I'm guessing you're meaning the envelop is marked with a S/MIME signature. Not everybody on the list uses them, so I'm guessing only some of them appear with it on. There has been a long thread over the last couple of days (and probably before) about TB! and S/MIME. Unfortunately I cannot guide you much on the topic, as I personally haven't looked into it. I use PGP for most of my work. On Sat, 4 May 2002, 3w wrote: Hi folks Some of you send messages which are flagged in a special way - I don't know how to explain it better than 'envelope with small circle and kind of ok-sign in it'. I can't read the mail, it's not shown in the preview window. Why? Fact is that I couldn't find anything in the help file, so I try this way. BTW, I like this list, already learned a lot! cu, 3w -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: S/MIME standards was: Re: Anti-Virus
On Sat, 4 May 2002, Michael Disabato wrote: snip I can confirm this. I've tried reading a message originated from Outlook and TheBat! 1.60c. The implementations are mutually incompatible. So much so, that Outlook will not even recognize that the message from TB! was even signed. The behaviors are consistent with 1.53d, 1.60c, and 1.60h. This leaves the question, do we need to buckle under to MS to get S/MIME to work? If so, then I'll resume using PGP. Also, how old is this new local standard? Regards, Mike I couldn't give a date... but I'd not buckle under it. It's microsoft using their position again I believe. I'm going to get mutt working on here, I think that supports s/mime signs, and I'll check out TB!. Fortunately most products on unix/linux are all RFC compliant... unlike 90% of MS products ;) If they were compliant, we'd not need to have two different options in TB! to read the signatures. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Wrong mailbox
On Sat, 4 May 2002, Lynna Lunsford wrote: If you don't want Netscape checking your e-mail you will have to go into the Netscape Mail e-mail account settings and deselect the box where it says to check mail every ?? Minutes. If you don't, then anytime you open the program it will automatically try to collect your e-mail. You might also uncheck any box that says to check for e-mail on connection or something similar. Or delete the account information... that'll stop it checking all together ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Bug? -- 1.60 Inbox-Known Deletion Causes Filtering Error
On Sat, 4 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MS Is the known filter set to active? Nope - wasn't beforehand, and still isn't. I hadn't realised how reliant I'd become on my handful of filters over the months (years?) now that everything's being dumped in the same folder, it's much harder to keep track!! Not sure if this is helpful... Have you made sure that you have the Continue processing set? I cannot remember the full name. It may have become switched off some how... and as soon as it hits that rule, it has no reason to continue processing. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The Versatile Group Tel: 972 991 1370 x 205 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: OT: FTP Directory Access Question
If you have SSH/Telnet/direct access, do: chmod +r foldername -R If you don't, use your FTP client to change the rights. Most allow you to right click on the folder, and set what rights you want. I am of course assuming this site is on a unix type server ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Sun, 5 May 2002, Kai Göing wrote: Hi: I have the following problem: I have a link on my web site that points to a directory (/vault/) on the FTP server. When clicking on that link I would like the browser to show the contents of that FTP directory so that any stuff stored in there can be downloaded via WWW. However, whenever I click on the link, the browser does not comply and merely says Error 403: Forbidden!, prompting me to change the user rights for that FTP directory. How can I make that directory publicly accessible via WWW and assign universal read rights to it? If you wanna give it a try, go to www.kgoeing.net and click on the Download link (which points to the /vault/ directory whose contents are supposed to be displayed). Please help! So long, Kai Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: MS CryptoAPI
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Mike Smith wrote: At Thursday, May 2, 2002, 11:58:07 PM, Dierk wrote: Hello TBUDL Members! With all that talk about MS CryptoAPI ... is it originally part of any Windows32? Is it an additional software package? Does it come with TB!? Do I have to install anything ales but what I already have (no Outlook/Express)? MSDN is somewhat contradictory (surprise!) In one place, it says - What's new? ;) MISF technologies are built on CryptoAPI, a Win32 API available today worldwide in Internet Explorer, Windows 95, and Windows NT. You could install IE4 on Win95... so technically they are half right. ANd elsewhere it requires IE4.01 minimum. IE4 was just a download after all (pain to install on Win95)... They tried to make everybody install it ;) Run-time Requirements The basic tools require at least Microsoft® Internet Explorer version 4.01 and will work on anything newer such as Internet Explorer 4.01 with SP1 or SP2, Microsoft® Windows NT® version 4.0 with SP4, Microsoft® Windows® 2000 and Microsoft® Windows® XP. I like how everything has to have been Service Packed before anything is supposed to work right. Chances are... still doesn't/didn't in those versions anyway. And CryptoAPI 2.0 requires NT/2k/XP I think it's fairly new, so that wouldn't surprise me You are more than likely to be able to get it in the install of IE6 as well... but they probaably don't mention that. Applications that use the CryptoAPI functions require Windows NT, Windows 2000, or Windows XP. I'd expect that you would need IE4.01, but I'm prepared to be wrong on this... -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[3]: Bug? -- 1.60 Inbox-Known Deletion Causes Filtering Error
On Sun, 5 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan, JA Not sure if this is helpful... Have you made sure that you have JA the Continue processing set? I cannot remember the full name. It JA may have become switched off some how... and as soon as it hits JA that rule, it has no reason to continue processing. The problem is actually that everything gets moved by a single filter that only actually matches a tiny portion of the matched messages, so it's not the continue processing that needs to be on. Thanks for the tip all the same! I've had some suggestions to try one of the betas, so I'll post a message here once I see how it goes. Just another quick idea... move one of your other filters (or create a temp filter) above that single filter that is moving everything into one folder. See what happens then. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: A problem using Opera at First Union Online -- I'm sorry ---
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Mike Smith wrote: Hmmm. Is there an explanation for why this seems to be the only list where threading (mostly) works? I've tried turning it on on other list folders and its a disaster. Could be possibly related to headers that TB! puts into the email, or something related to that. As we're all (I'm assuming, except me right now) use TB! for mailing here, everything is done the same (header wise)... so chances are, it'll thread properly. I'd have to look into that to verify though. I don't personally use threading on most emails, but might try it on this list. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The Versatile Group Tel: 972 991 1370 x 205 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Diagnose filter
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Hi Jernej, @05 May 2002, 16:20:14 +0200 (15:20 UK time) Jernej Simonèiè wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP You have blocked your X-Mailer header As far as I know... pine doesn't appear to put in an X-Mailer header... not that I've noticed anyway... check on this email, and you'll find out. Actually, if you look at the Msg-ID header, you'll notice Pine in it... True - in the message ID. But is that a Pine MUA or an MTA? Whatever... As far as I remember... Pine is an MUA only... pine sticks it's own Msg-ID in... most MTAs respect that... again... check on this email... I'm running Pine, with Sendmail. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Displaying address group entries
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Ron Cohn wrote: I have just converted over from another e-mail client and I miss one feature that it provided: The ability to have multiple groups *and* display only the contents of that group. For example, I have the following groups: Family Friends Work When composing a new message, I will right click in the To: field. What I would like to see is a listing of the above groups. By placing the cursor over one of the groups, the e-mail address within that group will display. From there, I will make my selection. Is it possible to do what I am asking? Try changing the word group for book... you could setup a seperate address book for each 'group'... but that could just be hard work. And I'm also not sure if it'd produce the exact output you're after... I'll look on Monday. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: X-Mailer (was Re: Diagnose filter)
On Sun, 5 May 2002, David Elliott wrote: Greetings Marck On 05 May 2002 at 18:25:03 +0100 (which was 18:25 where I live) Marck D Pearlstone might have written While this thread trails off its track... Do all mailers add this X-Mailer thing or the mailer's name somewhere? Well ... Pine clearly does not ;-). and some MTA's strip out x headers. Depends on the way the config is setup. Sendmail allows you to specify which headers to put on IIRC... but I've not played with the sendmail.cf for a while. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Req: Help with filter
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Michael Kellogg wrote: For some reason I have been getting emails - no doubt viruses - from people I don't even know, with 3 attachments: One is an almost-blank HTML file, one is some decoy file, like a jpg or Word doc, and one is a .zl? file, where ? = 3 or 9 usually. I'd check your virus scanner... chances are, that'd be Klez... it uses HTML code to force Outlook/Outlook Express to run the code. Fortunately for us, TB! doesnt' understand most of that code ;) I created a filter that processes incoming mail looking for .zl\d (without the quotes) in Kludges, thinking this would automatically handle these messages. I also specified that the message must have attachments, just to be safe. IIRC, the file name itself isn't stored in the headers (Kludges) of the emails... it's stored at the beginning of the attachment code... Try doing a full body search for it instead. This filter is doing nothing; any ideas? Am I mis-using regular expressions? Is there a simpler way to do this? Help! As I said up top... I wouldnt' worry about it too much, as TB! doesn't run the code... but I suggest looking at the headers of the email, check for a Return-Path in the header... if one is attached, you may want to try emailing that person, let them know there is a risk they are infected. 75% of the Klez virus that have hit where I work actually have the return-path of the actual person set.,... while the From/TO is set to people randomly picked from the infected users address book. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Simple Template? But not simple for me : (
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Dierk Haasis wrote: Hello C.R.! On Sunday, May 5, 2002 at 7:55:54 PM you wrote: If anyone knows of any sites with various templates of the bat for different applications, please post them : ) I can't help you with your question ... especially since I didn't read it. I don't mind you using OE, but why on earth HTML? Many of the lists I am on have strict rules on HTML... and I've pretty much applied them to the lists I run as well. As one of the admins says on one of the lists email isn't the Web... drop the HTML :) I fully agree with him. Plus HTML is the most easiest way to spread viruses right now (aka Klez), which I know TB! isn't affected by (as it doesn't execute the code)... but it's just one more nail in the coffin for HTML emails ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: TB! v1.60i
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Lynna Lunsford wrote: Hello Mandara, Sunday, May 5, 2002, 3:25:37 AM, you digitally penned the following: M Again, don't turn PGP off, since there is no reason for it; this M system is readable for all. But if you are using MS CryptoAPI then you M should count on that that some of us cannot read those messages. It is too bad that the MS cryptoAPI is not supported equally through all versions of TB and other mail clients because it leaves the smallest footprint visually on the email when sent. What I mean to say is that visually it is the most appealing, less intrusive than several lines of garbled code,letters, numbers. If it were equally supported, accepted I would opt of using SMIME of PGP in every day email for that reason alone. I use PGP because I operate a web site community and I use a form which encrypts to PGP to safeguard members personal information as they send it to me. : ) If you are worried about PGP dumping all the jumbled letters on, why not allow users to send a specific request to your email to get the PGP signature? I've noticed one or two people on this list have done that. Unless of course you have to sign it. If this is the case, then you have the option of creating the email as plain text, and signing it with PGP... then attach the .sig file... a little cleaner ;)... I'll check on how that works out on Monday, see if everything works okay like that. snip M As to upgrading: I, personally, cannot upgrade TB if it lack in some M options which were present in previous versions, and are highly vital M for me, just for the sake of some options which are highly buggy and M completely needless to me. It would be in fact a downgrade or M mussgrade. I, still, hope those 1.60x versions will as soon as M possible be just a messy past. I thank you for your e-mail, it was informative, and I will turn the PGP back on, though I wish it made less of a footprint in the actual e-mail's sent. Version J is working fine for me, but then, as you mentioned I have not used any version before 1.60c and therefore have no experience with TB prior to version c to compare it to. Are you using the PGP with TB! or are you using an external PGP program? If you're using the external program, see my idea above, give it a go... if you're using the one inside TB!... then I'm not sure what to do about the footprint at the bottom. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Diagnose filter
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Adam wrote: While this thread trails off its track... Do all mailers add this X-Mailer thing or the mailer's name somewhere? Not all do... although in some case, the mail servers strip them out to save size... Depends on the administrator of the mail server, and the way it has been setup. Some list programs strip a whole load of headers out as well... but I don't believe that is the case here. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: 1.60i, 1.60j : Beta or not beta
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Miguel A. Urech wrote: Hello Dierk, OK, the short version is: i/j fix very specific problems and are not of interest for the general public. Does special public, like you seem to be, pay more for their TB license?. Also, how do you know what we, the general public, are interested in, need or want from TB? What a disgusting response !!! Generally a comment like this to bug fixes is to things like fixing icons, or sorting out alignment, or minor things like that Any major bug fixes tend to be put on the website where the 'general public' has access to them. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: signature delimiter
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Ricardo M. Reyes wrote: Is TB the only program that uses the -- as a signature delimiter? No... Pine respects them too... And I think there is a standard for it somewhere... I vaugly remember reading something on it anyway. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Req: Help with filter
I should correct myself I guess... I've not seen ZoneAlarm correcting file extensions because 'it' thought they were 'harmful'. That to me would be more of an inconvenience than a feature... especially the amount of fiels I get sent. My apologise for causing any confusion ;) On Sun, 5 May 2002, Jonathan Angliss wrote: I'd check your virus scanner... chances are, that'd be Klez... it uses HTML code to force Outlook/Outlook Express to run the code. Fortunately for us, TB! doesnt' understand most of that code ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The Versatile Group Tel: 972 991 1370 x 205 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: TB! v1.60i
On Mon, 6 May 2002, Mandara wrote: On Sun, 5 May 2002, at 22:51:11 +0100 Marck wrote: I would bravely endure all other bugs, just if they would give me back my browsing by the first letter of... etc. :-E MDP I prefer the improvement myself.. browse by progressive search. Much MDP quicker for navigation IMHO! If this progressive search is faster than putting a finger on a key, than I would highly appreciate instructions how to do that. Just in the case that a misunderstanding is possible here, my full sentence was: One of lost options is browsing by the first letter of the name[s] of the folders through accounts/folders (in account pane). Mandara I think what it means is you type the first letter, and it matches the first folder that it reaches... when you type the second letter, it tries to find the next folder that begins with letter 1... AND 2... for example... You have: * Folder 1 * Fldr 2 * Inbox If you Type F it selects Folder... if your next key is L it moves to Flder 2 as it matches the FL to Fldr 2... is that clear? My explanations on some things are awful... at least that is my understanding on how the 'progressing' search works anyway. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Simple Template? But not simple for me : (
On Mon, 6 May 2002, tracer wrote: Hello Jonathan Angliss, On Sun, 5 May 2002 13:51:03 -0500 (CDT) GMT your local time, which was Monday, May 6, 2002, 1:51:03 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Many of the lists I am on have strict rules on HTML... and I've pretty much applied them to the lists I run as well. As one of the admins says on one of the lists email isn't the Web... drop the HTML :) I fully agree with him. Plus HTML is the most easiest way to spread viruses right now (aka Klez), which I know TB! isn't affected by (as it doesn't execute the code)... but it's just one more nail in the coffin for HTML emails ;) Well, I ended up yesterday with a Klez in my mailbox, sure was detected by my antivirus when I looked at it ... We've had quite a few of them hit us... fortunately we're all up to date on our virus scanners. I've setup a virus filter on our main mail server now as well, which should start to handle a few things. Something that surprises me, is the fact ISPs don't run virus scanners. I'm sure that'd probably vut down the speed at which these viruses spread. Although I guess there is a legal issue involved in scanning the emails... but I'm sure they could squeeze that into the signup contract somewhere... 90% of people never read it anyway... so they'd never notice ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Req: Help with filter
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Michael Disabato wrote: Sunday, May 5, 2002, 1:55:34 PM, Jonathan scribbled: JA On Sun, 5 May 2002, Michael Kellogg wrote: For some reason I have been getting emails - no doubt viruses - from people I don't even know, with 3 attachments: One is an almost-blank HTML file, one is some decoy file, like a jpg or Word doc, and one is a .zl? file, where ? = 3 or 9 usually. JA I'd check your virus scanner... chances are, that'd be Klez... it uses JA HTML code to force Outlook/Outlook Express to run the code. Fortunately JA for us, TB! doesnt' understand most of that code ;) Actually, if you're running Zone Alarm, that's what is changing the extension. MailSafe has a list of extensions that it renames to .z?? to prevent them from executing. Mike I realised ZA was involved shortly after I posted my message... I've not used it in a while. I just stick to ipchains/iptables as my firewall. And my OS isn't subject to the affects of 99% of viruses that flying about. It'd drive me up the wall if my firewall started renaming files for me. I can see the point of the facility for some computer users that have a habbit of double clicking on an attachment (goner virus at our work for example). -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The Versatile Group Tel: 972 991 1370 x 205 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: AB Display name as
On Mon, 6 May 2002, Dierk Haasis wrote: Hello Geoff! On Monday, May 6, 2002 at 9:53:43 AM you wrote: If you type the first letter (case sensitive) TB attempts to resolve this to one of the options, so you can get something meaningful in this field with just one keypress. However, I often forget to do this. Just before I wrote my question, I opened the AB and found myself staring at about 20 blank entries! I had to reopen all those entries to set Display name as. Confirmed. I just tested it and found it to be more than just an inconvenience, as my test entry didn't get a name. Now consider an AB full of white space - hard to find something. If I remember correctly, it never used to do this, but I noticed it doing it in 1.60c. Not that i put too many people in my address book now I have most of the people in there. Funny enough the gender field gets filled in with Unspecified (after closing and reopening the dialogue). I thought it put unspecified in there by default... could be wrong. I normally don't set most fields in the address book. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Req: Help with filter
On Mon, 6 May 2002, Miguel A. Urech wrote: Hello Jonathan, I should correct myself I guess... I've not seen ZoneAlarm correcting file extensions because 'it' thought they were 'harmful'. That to me would be more of an inconvenience than a feature... especially the amount of fiels I get sent. Do you think that the Options/Preferences/Warnings in TB is a good idea? Well, what ZoneAlarm does is pretty much the same and perhaps is a bit redundant for someone using TB and only opening attachments from within TB. But there are other e-mail clients out there, and other ways of opening attachments. I've not seen what is in that menu option, unless you're suggesting another feature. But as far as I am concerned... TB! gives big enough warnings on opening documents... even if I don't read them any more... they still pop up, and give you that extra option to click. It'd give most people that extra time to consider the results of running the file... unlike Outlook (Outlook Express) which used to just open the files on clicking them. At least they have added the feature that doesn't let you double click on .exe files any more. You have to save them to disk before you can actually access them. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Bat better than SpamKiller. Now
On Monday, May 06, 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... Although Bat does not filter messages at the server nor at the entrance gate, it turns out that using Dispatch mail on Sever comand is far more efficient than using the www.spamkiller.com . 1º The bat does the job of downloading the headers in a ratio of 100 to 1 faster. The Dispatch Mail tool requests only headers... well... it has to view all the email, but it only pulls the headers into your view. Try reading a pop3 server account that has over 300 emails sitting on it, and several of the files are over 3 meg... it takes it's time ;) But that I don't mind :) 2º The Bat does not download nothing. Only the Headers. I found out through the Mcafee Scanner that Spamkiller do download. At least I saw a virus sitting on its temps file as it downloaded. When trying to deal with spam, programs such as SpamKiller try to match text in the body as well as the header... to match it in the body, it has to download the whole email. 3. You just use Dispatch Mail on Sever of the Bat, sort by size of the message. Kill the target range. (I sense virus by the subjet and by the weigth in KB) That is all, and it turns out, that you save a lot of time. Let see when Mcafee integrates the spamkiller into their product line. I still use procmail at home. I've cut 99% of the spam out of all my folders before I even look at my emails. It all gets dumped into /spam and then I review it once a week. Anything that gets miss-dumped, I read the headers (I put in an extra header to show what got matched)... and tweak the rules. But that is at home. For work, I just have to live with it... I've started setting up spam rules for TB! now too. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: AB Display name as
On Monday, May 06, 2002, Dierk Haasis wrote... Hello Jonathan! On Monday, May 6, 2002 at 2:53:44 PM you wrote: If I remember correctly, it never used to do this, but I noticed it doing it in 1.60c. Not that i put too many people in my address book now I have most of the people in there. Oh, it did. I can't remember when it stopped´, but Geoff reminded me of it. It never used to do it in the version I used to use... 1.53 something... I cannot remember the letter extactly. It used to put in the First Name + Last Name by default IIRC. I could just be imagining it though ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Threading Ideas
Hi Guys, I said I was going to try threading today for TBUDL list... and I am trying it. There are a couple of things that just don't work right though. Like being able to mark a whole thread as being read. Another thing is collapsing threads. I like being able to use the left/right keys to expand/collapse parts of threads. I've become used to some methods of tree view that allow you to press the left arrow key on the end of a part of thread, and it'll collapse that branch. An example of a program that does it in this method is regedit. Expand a thread, and a couple of sub layers, if you press the left key, it'll jump to the parent of that 'item', and collapse that sub-thread... for example: Message 1 `- Message 1a `- Message 1aa `- Message 1ab `- Message 1aba `- Message 1b If you were to go to message 1aba, and press the left arrow, it'd collapse up to 1ab... if you were to then press the left arrow, it'd jump to 1a, and collapse that whole tree... anybody see what I'm on about? I like being able to do this... is there a way of doing that? And how about marking a whole thread as read? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Threading Ideas
On Monday, May 06, 2002, Roelof Otten wrote... Hello Jonathan, On Mon, 6 May 2002 09:28:48 -0500GMT (6-5-02, 16:28 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: JA I said I was going to try threading today for TBUDL list... and I am JA trying it. There are a couple of things that just don't work right JA though. JA Like being able to mark a whole thread as being read. CtrlShiftM Cool... thanks... works :) JA Another thing is collapsing threads. Ctrl- Left arrow key works as well. JA An example of a program that does it in this method is regedit. JA Expand a thread, and a couple of sub layers, if you press the left JA key, it'll jump to the parent of that 'item', and collapse that JA sub-thread... for example: Only difference between TB and regedit is that TB doesn't jump levels with the left arrow, to go one level back you've got to press the up arrow until you're where you want to be. That is the effect I'm after ;) Being able to jump the levels to the parent level of that message. Not jumping all the way to the first item, but just to the parent item of the message selected ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Message Dispatcher?
On Monday, May 06, 2002, Adam wrote... Is there documentation for Message Dispatcher? Anyone write any? Lots of things there I don't understand. I'll list. There is this Global menu. And how about Start Transfer. And in Mailbox controller there are various menus I don't understand their function. I'm sure it looks like people would use it a fair bit so it must be explained somehow. Okay... the Global menu items set the flags for ALL messages in the dispatcher's view. For example, if you wanted to delete all the messages, select Global - Set Flags - Delete. You can remove them again by going to Global - Reset Flags - Delete. If you only want to affect a few messages, select the few, and click Message - (option) like Read, Delete etc. The start transfer button just performs the operation you requested... for example if you told it to set the Read flags on your messages to On... start transfer would tell the mail server to read the messages. (so on and so forth). As for the mailbox controller... I didn't see it, I was clearing my mail off ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: connection centre
On Monday, May 06, 2002, Ben Mills wrote... Saturday, May 4, 2002, 9:31:26 PM, you wrote: A Nope. What Connection Centre shows is number of mailboxes, number of A messages, how many messages in each mailbox, time elapsed. I found you A could try Printscreen. But that only gives you the log 'up to that point' A in the mailcheck. If you are quick enough to snapshot. Ok. I now understand what you want, but I don't know of any such logging feature in TB. My impression was that you were needing a log for debugging purposes. So when you mentioned that the account log was only showing email addresses, I assumed you had the highlights only option enabled. Maybe somebody else can come up with more creative way of capturing your connection center activity. But the print screen method isn't likely a good approach. Good luck, I don't know about this... but I just got unusual behavior from my log views for each account. If I open the log view from just after I have sent/received email, it displays just a short list. If I then click on Highlights Only I see older stuff, but only things like the person's email address that sent/posted the email, or I sent to... If I then click on the Highlights only button again... I get a full details log back to the time I started TB!. I don't know if this is just me/XP... or just a funny quirk. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: connection centre
On Monday, May 06, 2002, Miguel A. Urech wrote... Hello Jonathan, I don't know if this is just me/XP... or just a funny quirk. I think it is a funny quirk and quite probably a bug. Try hitting Ctrl+Home when it displays just a short list. I had no scroll bar at the time... and it's not come back... so I cannot try it... I'm assuming that it just wasn't displaying the full list at the time. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: TB! v1.60i
On Monday, May 06, 2002, Lynn Turriff wrote... I'm not Marck, but can you not use wild cards on this search? Will searching on 'foo*' not return all possible 'foo's'? Lynn I think somewhere the concept has been lost. If you had a number of Foo folders for example, you'd have to type the next character that distinguished one foo from the other... like 'foo1' 'foo2' 'foo3'... you could type 'foo' to get to the first one in your folder list... but you'd then have to type '1' to get to 'foo1' and '2' to get to 'foo2' etc. I don't think a wild card would work, because it's not going to match a specific character, unless you have a folder called 'foo*' -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Reply-* Groups
I've just setup a group for a group of friends I email regularly as a group. I setup To, Reply, and Forward templates for the group... but when I hit the reply-all when I got an email that had all users in that group... it use the reply template for the group... Here is what I mean Group Friends Members [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I send email to Friends group... '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' reply's including the other two people... when I hit the reply-all button, it drops the Group's template... and just uses the standard account reply template I have set. Any ideas why? And how to fix this? Or do I have to include the template in friend*@domain*.com reply template? If so... what is the point of a new/reply template in the groups section? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Threading Messed Up
http://valcor.d2g.com/odd.jpg I've put an image on there... save sending it to everybody and causing an pain out of myself. I had just posted my message about group replies... and clicked on the folder for TBUDL... and my threading screwed up... as you can see... I have no + signs, no topics, nothing useful really... I'd turned threading off, then back on again... but it's still like that... anybody got any ideas? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Threading Messed Up
On Monday, May 06, 2002, Miguel A. Urech wrote... Hello Jonathan, ... and my threading screwed up... No, it is not. From the main menu select View/ View Threads by... Yes it is... doesn't matter what option I select under there, it seems to stay the same... if I have threading off... I get normal email client like appearance... if I turn it on... I get the one I screen dumped, and put on my home server. I've already checked things like threading by.. ;) Odd thing being... turned off threading, restarted TB!, turned it back on again... and it's fixed... maybe another temporary glitch. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Threading Messed Up
On Monday, May 06, 2002, Jernej Simoni wrote... Hello Jonathan, 06. maj 2002, 21:39:45, you wrote: JA I've put an image on there... save sending it to everybody and causing JA an pain out of myself. I had just posted my message about group JA replies... and clicked on the folder for TBUDL... and my threading JA screwed up... as you can see... I have no + signs, no topics, nothing JA useful really... I'd turned threading off, then back on again... but JA it's still like that... anybody got any ideas? Look at the scrollbar: it's moved just a little to the right - enough to hide the first column, where the subjects with the threads are. That is weird... I'd normally have spotted something as simple as that... hehe... made a fool of myself ;) Thanks for pointing out my stupidity ;) I still find it odd how turning off threading, and back on again didn't reset the scroll bars... but in way I can understand. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: 1.60i, 1.60j : Beta or not beta
On Monday, May 06, 2002, Allie C Martin wrote... Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote: ... I agree with you on this. MAU Are you a human or just a computer trying to be nice to me? ;-) I understand your frustration. I also understand that staffing constraints/limitations prevent Ritlabs from giving stellar support. However, I can't help but think there's more than room for improvement. I guess they don't really see this aspect of software production etc. as being that terribly important and they need to be very careful with this position and come to think of it, can only afford such a position since their product is significantly ahead of the others in ways that will assure them a faithful user-base. The fortunate thing about RitLabs is they run things like this list. Support isn't always needed if a few technically minded people that use the product can pitch together. In a way, RitLabs has sneaked in Free Tech Support staff ;) But you also have to consider the fact they probably do listen/view what we have to say... we mention bugs and stuff, they get fixed (or the major ones at least). I just had problems with my Dell laptop and was interestingly wondering which compAny to go for before buying the Dell, i.e., Gateway or Dell. I went Dell. My hard disk went baD and they sent an agent to my home in Jamaica and changed the drive (four days after the complaint). If it were Gateway, I'd get the drive changed but after shipping the drive to them. Dell won my loyalty based on service since I don't think the quality of either companies products are that different. Dell have won numerous awards for support, and customer services... that kind of services is one that costs a lot for the company to setup at first... but is one hell of a pay back once word gets around. I'm really happy about these lists and am glad to be a part of their running since this all helps the products support and general reception. Agreed... see my comment earlier about free support ;) These lists have been nothing but inspiration, and ideas from the time I joined... I see a lot of mailing lists every day, along with support emails, calls, and all kinds of other stuff (the fun of being a system admin/programmer/support staff). Lists like this are always a great help... at both ends... the support staff, and the person that needs the help. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Anyone with large amounts of mail in The bat?
On Tue, 7 May 2002, tracer wrote: Hello ETM, On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 23:44:55 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, March 20, 2002, 11:44:55 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, ETM wrote: I have about 3 gig of OE sitting and go back to that dead base to search and retrieve individual messages when I need them. I would like to bring them into TB but worry about the size and the effects. Many of the OE contain attachments (jpgs primarily) and I would want them to remain with the mail. Is that possible in an import? I did not have luck when I attempted to use the import features in TB, primarily because I am inexperienced with that feature, and because the OE version is 6.0 and not listed in the import wizard. Any suggestions? I have about 1 gb of compressed mail in the bat. No problem... Anyway as suggest above try it when the new release is out and hasnt any fatal bugs... And I would probably try it first on a new installed the Bat to make sure my existing emails arent messed up... Agreed, and make 100% sure that you back all your mail up as well... a fresh install might not necessarily protect your mails from being messed with ;) I did try an import from Outlook that comes with Office XP... but that messed up on 1.60c to the point where all the From fields were list names, and not the true senders... there was no subjects, dates were all set to the import date, the To field was missing, and a load of other stuff was screwed... I'm guessing that had something to do with an unsuported version of Outlook for the TB! importer ;) I ended up exporting the emails I really needed to keep into .msg format, then playing with the formating in the file until I knew it'd import right. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: can klez run from the Bat if Outlook/outlook express is installedon the same computer?
On Tue, 7 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the subject says I *might* have a copy of klez in The Bat. Norton detected it as it came into my mailbox, but the message still has an attachment in it, so not sure if its a replaced klez or the real thing. Needless to say I'm reluctant to open the email. I know Bat shouldnt be suspectible to Klez, but if I have Outlook and Outlook express also installed on the same pc (i'm looking to move away from them to The_Bat) but I'm concerned that I could be vunerable. Any thoughts? To answer your subject.. simply no. TB! doesn't have the code processing ability to handle the iframe tag that causes the problem in Outlook/Outlook Express. Which is good for us ;) Norton normally would replace your infected attachment with a text document that with a name like Norton Anti Virus alert.txt (I don't remember the full name). That file is safe to open... it just contains the original file NAME, and what virus it was infected with. I do advise you before opening your inbox with Outlook/Outlook Express, delete that particular message off of your mail server if you've not done it already. And if you're feeling really nice... you could see if you can guess which friend is infected by tracing the headers backwards... and see if you know the person... if so... drop them a mail, and notify them. Note that the From: field is NOT a reliable source to work out who sent it. In some cases, the Return-Path tag is set, which is the first place to start... if that is not set, try guessing from the ISP. In the number of cases I've been sent it, I've been able to work out which few people have been infected by ISP alone (sad I know most of my friend's ISPs). Good luck :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Subject autocomplete
On Tue, 7 May 2002, Miguel A. Urech wrote: Hello all, Auto-complete is nice and I use it in TO and CC from AB, not history. But, no matter what I select from Options/Preferences/System, the Subject keeps on auto-completing from history and this turns out to be a PITA when you write a lot of messages every day. Does anybody know of a way to completely turn off auto-complete for Subject? TIA I don't think you can... at least I cannot find a switch anywhere in preferences. Only setting I can find is for addressing. Recently I found the auto-complete for subjects rather useful... having to send out over 300 emails to uu.net about abuse... made life very easy ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Common Trash Folder -- Emptying on Exit
On Tue, 7 May 2002, Gerard wrote: ON Tuesday, May 7, 2002, 10:58:07 AM, you wrote: mmc How do I get the program to empty the Common trash folder on exit? snip I am never sure what is meant by the common trash folder. I have 1 trash folder per account and it has a special symbol as oppose to the standard folder icon. If you have a common folder... TB! generates a common trash can for it. So anything deleted from your common folder(s) is put in the common trash, instead of trying to guess an account trash can to put it in. As for emptying the trash folder you should have the bottom to radio box Remove old Messages marked (compress is optional). You should then proceed to tell TB! what these old msg's are. In other words you have to either mark the max number of msg's or the age of the msg's. If you do neither TB! doesn't know what an old msg's is and therefore can't remove it. I thought there was a setting that allowed you to Empty trash on exit, and you didn't have to mark the age of messages. I think the setting you're looking at is the Keep messages for... setting where it'll delete them when the time you've had the message expires. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Subject autocomplete
On Tue, 7 May 2002, Miguel A. Urech wrote: Hello Jonathan, I don't think you can... at least I cannot find a switch anywhere in preferences. Only setting I can find is for addressing. Recently I found the auto-complete for subjects rather useful... having to send out over 300 emails to uu.net about abuse... made life very easy ;) I haven't said that auto-complete is not useful. But, as many other features, it depends on the way each of uses TB and it should be _optional_ to use it or not. I was agreeing ;) Do you happen to know where the history for Subject is kept by TB? I don't know if there is an option to disable it... but it's probably kept in one of the history files... if you look in the directories for your mail... but that probably isn't the answer you're looking for ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
RE: can klez run from the Bat if Outlook/outlook express is installedonthe same computer?
On Tue, 7 May 2002, Andrew Helsby wrote: Thanks for the advise Jonathan I was just concerned that if it tried to call the outlook.exe file then I'd be stuffed :-) The email is already deleted off my mail server - the only reason I was concerned is that the attachment when viewed on the mail server seemed to be rather larger than just a file saying this email had a virus but seemed to be the original size (or thereabouts) of the infected payload. I haven't had a chance to look at the headers yet as I was reluctant to do too much with this possible payload - most of my friends have easily identifiable isps too! I'll have a play tonight.I could always ghost my pc, unplug my modem and try but that sounds like a bit too much of an effort! If you have the latest norton, you shouldn't be worried... you can just delete the attachment from the message I believe. At least I think TB! can do that. Another trick is if you have your email set to store attachments separate from your emails (in a separate folder), you can just go ahead, and delete the file It'll then be deleted from the email itself. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The Versatile Group Tel: 972 991 1370 x 205 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Common Trash Folder -- Emptying on Exit
On Tue, 7 May 2002, Gerard wrote: Hi Jonathan, Finnaly found the common inbox and trash folder. To set the Empty trash on exit place the focus on the trash folder and go to account|properties|options. There it is :-) It wasn't me that originally asked... but I'm sure they'll be reading the thread anyway ;) I think that option is for the account trash can (the one nested inside each account). I think you have to right click on the folder that you want to empty on exit, and set empty on exit... or something like that... I'll take a peek when I get into work. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Common Trash Folder -- Emptying on Exit
On Tue, 7 May 2002, Allie C Martin wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gerard [G] wrote: ... G To set the Empty trash on exit place the focus on the trash G folder and go to account|properties|options. There it is :-) *That* I didn't know about. :-) For those who haven't tried, what this does is to open the properties panel for the common folders. You don't have to focus on the common trash folder specifically to get to the empty trash on exit option. Just focusing on any common folder and going to the account properties option in the Account menu, or just hitting Shift+Ctrl+P will do the same. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- Hehe... based on this info... I correct my last email on this thread ;) I guess account can be interchanged when it comes to common folders. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Clean Install Keep Old Message DB?
On Tuesday, May 07, 2002, Greg Strong wrote... Hello TBUL, What is the best way to do a clean install of TB! and restore the old message database? TIA! Tools - Backup? ;) The other way I have done it before is to copy the mail folder over to somewhere safe... do a fresh install, create the accounts, then copying back the data files from inside each account folder. But that's probably not a recommended way by TB! staff ;) I've just found it very quick for me. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Clean Install Keep Old Message DB?
On Tuesday, May 07, 2002, John Sands wrote... I am moving to a new machine soon. Does either of these methods restore the folder hierarchy and/or filters and/or preferences? Thanks, John I know for a fact the second method does... I used to to move from my old programming machine to my new one. But as I said... probably not advised by the staff at RitLabs ;) The other method (Tools - Backup) allows you to select what you want, but I have no idea if it backs up filters... but it should backup the whole lot if you have everything selected. The help file doesn't have too much information on what the backup actually backs up... so it'd probably be worth an attempt, and see if it works... if not... resort to method above ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Reply-* Groups
I solved this on my own... I should have seen it when I first setup the group. The one person that I was reply-all to had their own filter set for replying... didn't see it, and didn't realise it'd have the effect on the whole group, but I can see how it would if it's an address book entry ;) On Monday, May 06, 2002, Jonathan Angliss wrote... I've just setup a group for a group of friends I email regularly as a group. I setup To, Reply, and Forward templates for the group... but when I hit the reply-all when I got an email that had all users in that group... it use the reply template for the group... Here is what I mean Group Friends Members [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I send email to Friends group... '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' reply's including the other two people... when I hit the reply-all button, it drops the Group's template... and just uses the standard account reply template I have set. Any ideas why? And how to fix this? Or do I have to include the template in friend*@domain*.com reply template? If so... what is the point of a new/reply template in the groups section? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Couple of things
Hi All, First one... I'm taking advantage of the signature stripped example on TB! support pages. It works very effectively, except against a friend who separates her signatures with ~~~ instead of the usual - of -- ... How can I adapt the regexp on the website to match those separated signatures? Second one... I remember somebody saying using AB templates is better than using Folder templates... so I thought I'd try converting one of my folder templates to AB templates. There is one problem I have come across. Here is an example: I have the TBUDL folder, it is nested inside my account folder for my work's mail server. If I make a template like this: Hi All, %Cursor -- %FromName (%FromAddr) %To = address here On the folder, it grabs the folders identity... if the folder doesn't have an identity, then it grabs the Accounts identity... which works fine. The problem now being... is if I decide to move that same template into the AB of TBUDL... then that same template won't work right. For example, if I have my home account selected instead of my work account, and try addressing on here, I know it'll bounce back. This is because it has set the from: , %FromAddr , %FromName to match the account settings of my home folder. My question is... do I have to use the %From* = value macros... or do I have to use something else... I see the folder templates are quicker to setup... and if account specific, then they solve a lot of typing as you don't need to add additional info that you wouldn't have to enter. TIA :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Slow Compuserve Pop delivery or is it TB
On Thursday, May 09, 2002, Christopher Taylor-Davies wrote... As an example, it has been taking up to 4 hours for test messages to get to me, normally it takes less than a minute. If you're sending yourself a test message, and it leaves your computer, and is on their systems... and takes 4 hours to get to you... it's them. TB! has nothing to do with the mail once it has left your computer. They could just be having mail queuing problems, or a server glitch. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: can klez run from the Bat if Outlook/outlook express isinstalled on the same computer?
On Thu, 9 May 2002, Spike wrote: Hello Jonathan, The problem with KLEZ is that it has its own built in SMTP server and sends out mails (all from the WAB - Windows Address Book) as if they come directly from the person whose address is used. You can't determine where the message actually came from. The safest course is to REMOVE Outlook AND the Windows Address Book ENTIRELY. Those are the targets of 99.99% of the virus code! I know... I deal with about 5 of them every day now. We've installed a mail scanner on our mail server now to provent this kind of thing. As for it's source, there appears to be two versions flying about at the moment. One sets the Return-Path header, which is a valid email address of the infected user. This I know because of 3 that hit us last week. I called the person, and they confirmed they were infected. Unfortunately the second version appears not to add anything quite as technical, but if you know your friends, you *may* be able to trace it to their ISP. With The Bat!, as long as you don't right click and save the attachments, and then get even dumber and run them, they can usually do nothing. Absent Outlook and WAB, there is virtually nothing the virus can do, other than whatever destructive code it runs locally. That is what I was saying... providing he doesn't try and execute the program, he'll be fine. TB! doesn't suffer the problem of the IFRAMES tag which is what Klez uses to force itself to open. The only way you're going to get infected with this one, is run the program yourself. At which point you should be taken to your sysadmin, and shot with a gun ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Connection Problems
On Thu, 9 May 2002, Allie C Martin wrote: Edward G. Hochstein [EGH] wrote: ... EGH Good point: Yes I am running Zonealarm. Arrgghh!! I won't say anything. :-(( I advise the person to read the recent threads on ZoneAlarm, and TB!. I'm sure they could be very informative :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: can klez run from the Bat if Outlook/outlook express is installedon the same computer?
On Thu, 9 May 2002, Anthony Xin Chen wrote: Hello Spike, On 9 May 2002 18:32:56 (my local time 16:32:56), Spike wrote: The safest course is to REMOVE Outlook AND the Windows Address Book ENTIRELY. Those are the targets of 99.99% of the virus code! How to do that? Or rather how to make sure those are completely removed? The Windows Address book can be removed from the control panel - add/remove programs - Windows Setup, scroll through the list. I cannot remember which version of Win98 allowed you to uninstall Outlook Express, I think it was Win98se. Outlook (not outlook express) is an office application, so drop in your office CD, run setup, and go to Uninstall components, remove Outlook. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: nonstandard headers
On Friday, May 10, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... It looks like the only way to specify non-standard headers is on a message-by-message basis, editing by hand. For now, yes. Can you not use templates to add headers? If this was a design decision based on a philosophy of keeping headers to a minimum, I can respect that. I don't know what the decision was based on, but it is a conscious one. If no to the above question... then maybe a requested item. I'd find it very useful in my office to get internal mails to skip all our scanning routines. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Change Appearance of Zero?
On Friday, May 10, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... Not really possible - it is a function of the font being used and you can only change it locally. You can see it however you want, but you can't affect how someone else will see it. Unless you're using Outlook, with HTML emails, and they have the font installed too (ewww) ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Exporting to .eml error
On Friday, May 10, 2002, Roelof Otten wrote... (Flash renamer, http://www.rlvision.com, is an excellent freeware tool to do mass renames) Or DOS rename *.msg *.eml ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Quick Template problem...?
On Friday, May 10, 2002, Tim Musson wrote... Ok, it happened again (BCC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == cut from kludge) and was almost a big problem this time (financial info included). I was saved because the list thought the msg was too big. Are you using folder templates, or address book templates? Is there any easy way for me to check through everything for a string? for instance [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Is it only your dad's address causing this problem, or is it all of them? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: PGP
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Pete Milne wrote: This may not be the place for this but I will try anyway. I am needing to start using it. This is totally new to me. I have looked at a few sites regarding it but they are a little too deep at this time. A good question to start... is why do you think you need to start using it? I see people here have their key on the emails they sent. Can someone explain how this process works and why the key would be out in public view...or does it matter? With PGP, there are two types of keys (If I remember correctly). A public key, which everybody can have access to. This public key is used to encrypt data with the target audience being you (if only your public key was used). The other key is your secret key. This is kept to yourself (again, if I remember correctly, although Gnupg seems to allow exporting of secret keys). This secret key is used to decrypt your data, providing your password matches. You often find people signing their emails, so you can guarantee the email is from the source it claims to be from. PGP also includes functions like signing files, which creates a special signature for that file, onto which is tagged your public key. Together they reduce the ability to allow third parties to alter the file without the recipient knowing. They can use PGP to verify that the file has not been changed using the signed file. I personally don't use the PGP that comes with TB! as I have been running PGP as a stand alone program for years. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Quick Template problem...?
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Tim Musson wrote: Hey Jonathan, JA Are you using folder templates, or address book templates? I do however have a Quick Template called 'perl' that looks like this %TO=%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%CC= so how/what is putting [EMAIL PROTECTED] in a BCC field is beyond me. This may be a really really stupid question. But doesn't that macro clear the TO field, set it to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and clear the CC field? If so, why would you want to use this on an account template, and not just create an address book template just for [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Or have I completely missed the functions in this macro? As for it dropping the address into the BCC, I have absolutely no idea ;) -frustrated- Understandable... I'd be in exactly the same state if personal information was getting to the wrong people ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: comments and a request
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Tim Musson wrote: Interesting, I never saw anyone do telnet://your_mail_server:25 from a browser before... I tried it and all it did is launch the native telnet application (which is what I usually do). Does it do something different on your machine? I used Win2k... (I tend to use Putty as Mrten also indicated - *much* better than the native telnet). I'd probably have used telnet straight off for testing. No need to go searching for that ellusive program ;) If you find that during the telnet tests, your connection is still being dropped by your ISP, then they probably need to investigate, as it sounds like the mail server timeout is set waaay to low. I can't recall the RFC, but I made some notes ages ago on this. Here they are for any interested. The RFC gives the available commands and what the response codes indicate. I use these frequently to test mail servers for open relays. One of the easiest ways than going ahead, modifying mail client settings, sending mail, changing then back... just pop open telnet/CRT/SecureCRT/Putty (or your choice), and connect :) I think the RFC you were refering to was RFC 2920. snipped RFC commands which can be found at www.rfc-editor.org -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Quick Template problem...?
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Tim Musson wrote: Hey Jonathan, JA This may be a really really stupid question. But doesn't that macro clear JA the TO field, set it to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and clear the CC field? Not a stupid question g And, yes it does clear both the To: and Cc: fields, then put [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the To: field. Gotcha... Doesn't that make more work on your part if you just wanted to reply to say your dad? I mean, you have to go ahead, strip out the list, readd your dad's email etc etc. Or does he have a special AB template? JA If so, why would you want to use this on an account template, and JA not just create an address book template just for JA [EMAIL PROTECTED]? because I usually do a reply to a message (kind of like this one), not a new message from the address book. But you can set reply templates as well. I use them on here, and on other lists (even ones that don't have the reply-to set) JA Or have I completely missed the functions in this macro? I know, it sounds odd, but it has to do with the list software and how it is configured... For some reason (and yes, the moderators and users are in agreement on this... - the 'why' question pops up every few months, and I seem to recall RFC's or some such being quoted) that comunity (and may others like it from what I understand) have the default reply to listed as the person who sent the message to the list! So if I want to reply to the list, I need to clear the To: field (and frequently the Cc: filed) and address it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, it doesn't sound odd at all. I'm on about 3 mailing lists that are setup in exactly the same way. Purely because it gets a lot of outside posters, it forces the mail client to reply to that outside poster instead of the list, in case the poster isn't subbed on the list. Can you not create an AB template (for Reply) for [EMAIL PROTECTED], and then in that template, get it to clear everything? I'll test it on Monday on one of the lists I'm on, but I cannot see a reason it wouldn't work if say you hit the REPLY-ALL button, instead of just the reply... but I could be mistaken on how that kind of setup would work. I'll give it a go ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: PGP
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Pete Milne wrote: Replying to your message of Friday, May 10, 2002, 7:50:23 PM: JA A good question to start... is why do you think you need to start using JA it? Well, I am wanting to make sure the mail I send to certain clients is exactly what I sent. I got to reading about it, seems like a lot of work to me. In some situations it is. You have to consider that they are going to need PGP at the other end if you're signing text, and files, otherwise they'll never know the truth. TB! has a built in PGP you may want to look into. I'm not sure what the docs are like on it though. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!
On Sat, 11 May 2002, Michael David wrote: Hi Mandara! Hmmm - I don't think I deleted them, and those messages are not in the Trash folder. Is there some way to delete messages that they don't end up in the trash? If you delete a folder, you have an option to wipe instead of sending to the trash, but you still have the folder, so it wasn't that. So, are you saying I should move the messages .tbb and messages.tbi files to a new TB folder, and then compress the new folder? Nearly. Copy the OLD files to a NEW folder. Then run a compress on the OLD folder. Close TB!. Before copying them back, try opening TB! and see if the compress forced a reindex, and they may have reappeared... if not, try copying the OLD files back into the new ones, or create a new folder in TB! and copy them into that... see if they appear then. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Re[2]: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!
On Sun, 12 May 2002 12:38:58 -0500 Spike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Average attachment size per message (list postings) in these mailboxes is 350K. All are being compressed. In V1.53d (Win98SE), it took up to 40 minutes to compress, now in 1.60h it took about 2.5 minutes (Win98SE)! A big improvement on that aspect. I also noticed a further improvement upon installing Win2K, now down to 1.25 minutes to compress as well. The file saving windows also are enormously zippier in Win2K. ;-) I'd have thought after the first compression, subsequent compressions would be quicker because it couldn't really compress the sections it has already compressed... But that would be what I think... I could br wrong ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The Versatile Group Tel: 972 991 1370 x 205 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Easier spam filtering
On Monday, May 13, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... The simplest and most effective spam filter is the Sherlock (process of elimination) method as originally suggested by Steve Lamb and explained by Allie Martin: Process of elimination works very well... until you start getting spam in mailing lists ;) I do fully agree with the idea though. Filter all the good mail into your mail folder (like friends, family, colleagues), then filter lists, mail shots you requested etc, then the rest should simply be spam. But as I said, this is all okay in theory until you start getting spam in your list boxes. I have to put my spam filters above all but this mailing list. I match on key subjects, and phrases. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Message list highlight - Newbie
On Monday, May 13, 2002, John Harned wrote... TB! seems to properly order messages in folder message lists, but the highlight doesn't automatically go to the top of the order selected. Also, when I move from folder to folder it seems that if there is more than one page of messages, the list is always scrolled well down into the list. Is there some way to force the highlight to go to the top of the order which has been selected? I'm using 1.60c. From what I can see... TB! seems to remember what message you selected in each folder when you move to another one. So if you select the last message, and jump to another folder, when you go back, it'll have the last message selected. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Easier spam filtering
On Monday, May 13, 2002, James Van Horn wrote... Hi Jonathan, I don't understand. How could I possibly filter all of the good mail? I run a business and am contacted by new people all the time. Most of the time, a nice quick and easy way to get rid of a lot of mail, is check to make sure you're in the TO field. I'm assuming most new people would contact you directly, as with colleagues and such. A lot of the spam I receive isn't even addressed to me... or doesn't even come with a TO or CC field (magic ;)). Another way is to start filtering on keywords... making sure not to filter on words you're likely to receive in new people's emails. Common ones include credit, debt, mortgage, adult, xxx, porn etc. These are okay unless you work in a credit agency that specializes mortgages ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Easier spam filtering
On Monday, May 13, 2002, Allie C Martin wrote... That's an exceptional circumstance. An exceptional circumstance that hits erm... about 9 of my mailing lists ;) But they they're all high profile (see www.undernet.org). At present my filter setup catches 99.99% of my spam messages (~12/day) and an occasional legitimate message. lol... ~12? hehehehe... lucky you ;) I processed 30 before I left for work this morning... and that was between the hours of 12:30am and 5:00am :) Creating a new filter for each spam message is a tedious effort and places a lot of overhead on message processing when so many filter rules are present. I know, which is why you can assign OR conditions to the filters... not a separate filter then... well... not technically anyway. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Easier spam filtering
On Monday, May 13, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... Hi Jonathan, Best thing there is to put pressure on the ML admins to close the list and restrict posting to subscribers only. More and more are going that way all the time. We've always done that here. Oh I understand that, but all of those lists that get hit by spam have to be publicly postable. For example [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a support mailing list. We get at least 5 pieces of spam in there a day. And some of the other ones need to be publicly postable too because of the role of the list. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Filtering mail lists
Hi Ray, On Tue, 14 May 2002 00:00:30 +0100, you wrote: The way my present email app is set up, all four accounts are downloaded at the same time and mail list items are filtered into the relevant box (or folder) as they are downloaded. Not too difficult to do. Right mouse button click anywhere in the tree list, select new, then common folder... call it mailing lists (or whatever). You now have a common folder to start with. Repeat the procedure for each of your lists. Next if you want those folders to appear under your mailing list folders, use the move in/out function (CTRL SHIFT left/right arrow). You should then be able to move it into the mailing lists folder. I have a common folder to all the accounts called 'Mail Lists' and this contains a folder for each list. Filtering is done on the Reply To header and the mail goes into the relevant folder for that list. For the filtering, Account - Sorting Offices - Select the Incoming folder, and click new. Look on the right hand side, and you should know have the basics for setting up rules. Give it a useful name, then choose where you want it to be moved to, then set the rules down the bottom. If I've lost you here, click on the help button, the images are pretty helpful in there. Also, if I have a mail list folder selected and I then click on the 'Compose new email' icon, then the new email is set up with the correct outgoing email address for that mail list and my correct email address and sig file for that list. Yes you can do this... they're called folder templates, but as I'm sure you're about to find out... they're not recommended by some of the people on the list, as it's easy to select the wrong folder. The easiest, and safest is the Address Book Template. Create a new address book entry for each list. Include the email addresses for the lists etc. Now click on the New tab you should see in the address item page. Now create your template in there. If you want to use a specific sig file, just use the macros listed under the macro button (again if I've lost you, the help button is great here). I've looked at the FAQ and it doesn't appear to answer what I want to do. I hope this is a start. I'm sure many more will post more technical details. But for now, I have done that off the top of my head, as I am at home, and I don't run Windows here. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Filtering mail lists
Hi None, On Mon, 13 May 2002 19:19:07 -0500, you wrote: 1. Set up each account. Hehe... a given, otherwise you don't get the mail ;) 2. Set up a dummy account called Unsorted Mail. Just make up some bogus email address and then under Account//Properties//General//Options check Ignore Check All Requests. Also Check Mark message as read only when it is opened in a separate window. Why setup a dummy account when TB! supports common folders, aliases, and advanced filtering? 3. Now for each of the real account go to Account//Sorting Office/Filters//Incoming mail//New and create a filter which operates on all mail. When it is done, hit Ctrl-C to copy it to the clip board. Might want to move it ahead of the Known filter just to be picky. Here is what is in my clipboard when I hit Crtl-C: Why do you want to filter all mail into the unsorted mail box? Why not just filter each list on the account it comes into, into the appropriate common folder? Now when you check all your accounts all mail will be transfered unread into the Inbox of Unsorted Mail. No need for this if setup like I mentioned in my email. Now Create a Folder outside of any account called Sorted Mail. Under it create the various folders that meet your needs, such as Mailing Lists, Personal Mail etc etc. Ahhh... now you're getting somewhere. I still don't get the whole idea of the dummy account thing. While you're at it, create a new folder outside of all accounts called Spam. Always useful to have a spam folder just to dump the rubbish in. Especially if you deal with spamcop.net or manually do the abuse tracking. Now go in to Unsorted Mail and start setting up all your filters under Incoming Mail. Have a filter at the bottom of the list called Spam which transfers all mail to Spam (ie all mail that hasn't already been filtered.) See the thread on filtering that just popped up (Easy Spam Filtering)... Something about the Sherlock method... eleminate all possible combinations, and what you get left... must be spam (ie filter out your mailing lists, friends etc put them into appropriate folders, and the final stuff will more than likely be spam). Make sure you have a filter called Personal Mail which checks the recipient for being one of your email addresses. You can use Alternatives for each account, or else you can set up an address book group with your account in it with all your email address listed in the entry. This is the Known filter pre-built into TB! now. That filter works straight away for you. All you need to do is switch it on ;) Now with this set up, when you check your mail, all of the mail for all accounts will go to Unsorted Mail/Inbox where it will stay, unread. You can peek at it here if you want. To transfer it to the storage folders, right mouse click and hit Re-filter messages. Now the mail will all transfer from your Unsorted Mail/Inbox to all your various folders. If you're doing that method, why not just put your filter on the On Read event? Would save extra mouse clicks. Now go check your Spam folder and create additional filters on the Unsorted Mail account to file anything you missed. Repeat. That's the idea... make sure you're not catching good mail, and make sure you're catching the bad mail that slipped in. Kind of a lot of work, but this scenario allows you to set up all your email filters in one place rather than having to have duplicate filters on each account. Now I see the idea of this idea. And yes... a fair bit of work. I still believe that just setting the filters on the accounts is just as easy. Or you might as well just contact all of your mail providers, and get them to forward it to one account, then filter from there. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Best Practices: Attachment Filters
On Tuesday, May 14, 2002, Michael T. Ashby wrote... My questions are: 1. Can this be done? Stripping attachments is a pain, and I'm not sure TB! can do it. Although if you have access to the mail server, and it is running procmail, you could force it to mangle the extension, so it forces you to save the file before you can open it... this will guarantee that your virus scanner (if installed) will read the file. 2. If so, what recommended extensions should be excluded? TB! isn't at risk from a lot of auto-executing code viruses such as Nimda, Melissa, Klez etc as it doesn't support a lot of the HTML code that forces it to run. If you're worried about attachments, just don't open it. You should know if it's a trusted source. Also bug your mail server admin see if they can get a good virus scanner installed on there to check incoming mail. If it is a Unix type server, they may want to look for a program called MailScanner (GPL'd) which can be used with a majority of the common server virus scanners (I personally advise Sophos). If all that still makes you worried... install the latest scanner on your desktop as well, and get it to check for updates daily. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Using Attachments sent by Eudora
On Tuesday, May 14, 2002, Dave Conroy wrote... With best wishes, Your idea is best put across via text. Unfortunately telepathy has it's draw backs over ethernet, fibre options, and other media. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Auto-responding
On Tuesday, May 14, 2002, Dave Conroy wrote... With best wishes, What's with best wishes? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Won't Send under Windows XP
Hi Leviathan, On Wed, 15 May 2002 07:00:00 -0400, you wrote: I'm testing out The Bat! on a machine that dual-boots Windows 98 SE and Windows XP. It seems to work flawlessly under 98, but under XP, The Bat won't talk to _any_ SMTP Servers, including Advanced Direct Remailer running on the local host. Are you running WinXP's built in firewall? I've heard it has been known to cause some problems. It could be a default setting that allows *only* microsoft products to connect (wouldn't shock many people). Try opening outlook Express, creating a dummy account, and sending an email see if it goes. Other than that, I'm lost. I use WinXP Pro at work all the time without any hassles sending or recieving emails. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Using Attachments sent by Eudora
Hi Paul, On Wed, 15 May 2002 08:14:30 -0400, you wrote: now I have to clean up my keyboard and monitor, and they are BRAND NEW!!! I had a nice mouthful of coffee when I read your reply, it basically MADE MY DAY, Thanks!!I love a better perspective, it keeps everyone honest:) hehe glad I could be of service ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Auto-responding
Hi Paul, On Wed, 15 May 2002 08:49:41 -0400, you wrote: and enable local delivery, it speeds up testing a bunch ;) I was sending myself test messages from one account to the other. There's an option to do that? Cool... will hunt that down. Will save me some testing delays ;) Although being plugged pretty much right into the mail server (nice to be admin) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The Versatile Group Tel: 972 991 1370 x 205 Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Different versions
On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, Adam wrote... If alternate versions of TB are run with the same mailbase, is that Ok? No concern or conflict in doing that? Based on the way the mail is stored... not that I can see. It's all plain text. Each message is just tacked onto the end of the 'mailbox' file. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Won't Send under Windows XP
On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, Pete Milne wrote... Replying to your message of Wednesday, May 15, 2002, 5:30:03 AM: JA Are you running WinXP's built in firewall? XP firewall has only inbound protectionno outbound. So I do not think that would be the place to spend much time looking. The way Microsoft make things? LOL... would be one of my first places to start looking :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: TB phones home, sends spam?
On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, Spike wrote... Spammers have a trick they now use, which works if they know the name of the default mail server of the ISP. They can send a message to whatever@mailservername and EVERYONE on the mailserver gets a message! The whatever can actually be anything they wish to type! This really sucks, but I don't know what can be done about it. A common one is Undisclosed.Recipients@server name. I get about 7 of those a day. I'm guessing depending on the mail server if you set it to reject anything sent directly to the server name, it should drop those mails. After all... why would legitimate contacts be sending email to your server name, instead of your domain name? I'd have to experiment with that one on my test network. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: TB phones home, sends spam?
On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, Spike wrote... The undisclosed.recipients usually indicates a the message came from a list of BCC's. This is still indicative of spammer behavior however! I know... that is just a common one... others include house.owners... company.executives... loan.guides... things like that. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Message Dispatcher Sorting
Hi, I'm just playing with message dispatcher. I have to keep my home computer, and work computer with the same emails on, so I have both clients (one is TB! the other is Sylpheed for linux) set to leave the mail on the server. That all works fine. What I do when I get into work, is delete all messages prior to the time I shut down my home email (normally 8am ish). So I open the Message dispatcher, and sort by time. This is where things go wrong. It half manages to sort dates out, and only appears to display the date if the email is over 2 days old (this is the first issue that'll appear when sorting). The next is the sorting on time. It randomly picks it's sorting. Right now if I review the mail on the server, and sort by time... I'll go something like 12:01 (of today), a handful around that time... all the way up to 23:00 hrs (if you've not noticed... being only midday where I am, 23:00 hrs has yet to happen... so that is yesterdays mail appearing in the middle of the todays sort)... then the next message is 08:01 (of today), all the way up to 12:00. Clearly this sort is not right. Anybody else see this, or get anything like it? Also while on this subject... is there a way I can create a filter in TB! that will delete (on collection) any mail that has a date/timestamp of before 8am of the current day? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Strange filter in Sorting Office/Filters
On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, bemos wrote... Hello tbudl, i have one strange filter in sorting office / filters, it called KNOWN i can't delete that, is this something to do with the klez virus ? Not at all... this filter is supposed to be there. It is a default filter created by TB! developers so that you can just put in a tick, and it automatically filters anybody from your address book into inbox - known instead. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
