Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[chris]

Yes so I encourage anyone who relies on a bluetooth keyboard to think 
twice before purchasing the new Apple TV. At least the third generation 
will be around for the forseeable future.


On 01/11/2015 03:46, Mary Otten wrote:

Oh boy! That sounds like a big step back. Hopefully, they will fix this in the 
coming months.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:

I've tried and it doesn't work. Unfortunately as you say the new
keyboard layout is even worse than the old one and even though the TV
has Siri you don't appear to be able to use dictation.

Cheers,
Ben.


On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried connecting
it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your results
been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on the
fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult, because
they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the remote. It
is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers. And the
author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt. They did
not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think that that
might not be an option. So, what say you?

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Re: How to Quote a Tweet on iPhone or Mac

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
This leads me to another question which i have pondered for a while now, is 
there by chance another twitter application for the Mac accessible enough to 
use and that supports modern features of Twitter? I feel that Nightowl is 
lagging further and further behind.
/Krister

> 1 nov. 2015 kl. 00:41 skrev Daniel Miller :
> 
> Night Owl doesn’t support quoted tweets. Who knows if it will, since the app 
> seems to only get updated once a year when new OS versions come out these 
> days.
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 5:16 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
>> 
>> In the native Twitter iPhone app, when you hit retweet, you were given a 
>> choice as to whether you want to retweet, or quote tweet. When you double 
>> tap the quote tweet button, you can write your comments in the edit box, and 
>> your recipients will see the original tweet, and your comments.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:17 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> As someone who is not a big Twitter user I need to quote a few Tweets as I 
>>> have heard this is a good way to do things instead of retweeting as you 
>>> will reach more people. Of course I have yet to figure out how to do this 
>>> using VO. I have looked in Night Owl on the mac, Twitterrific on the iPhone 
>>> as well as the native Twitter app on the app for the iPhone. Does anyone do 
>>> this and if so how? Thanks,
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Larry Smith]

I have the new apple TV. I have tried three different bluetooth keyboards. 
Neither keyboard would pair. As a matter of fact, the apple TV didn’t appear to 
even recognize that I was trying to pair a device. 
> On Oct 31, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried connecting it 
> with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your results been? I 
> saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on the fact that 
> typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult, because they don't 
> have the grid that they used to have for use with the remote. It is 
> apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers. And the 
> author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt. They did 
> not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think that that 
> might not be an option. So, what say you?
> 
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Gadget Girl]

Hello everyone.  I was in the Apple Store yesterday and was told by a manager 
that an update to the software is coming which will enable the Apple bluetooth 
keyboard and the new Apple magic keyboard to work with the new Apple TV.  He 
said the update should be out in days.  FYI. 

Regards, 
Gadget Girl
Sent from my Apple gadget and dictated using Siri.

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 1:48 AM, chris  wrote:
> 
> Yes so I encourage anyone who relies on a bluetooth keyboard to think twice 
> before purchasing the new Apple TV. At least the third generation will be 
> around for the forseeable future.
> 
>> On 01/11/2015 03:46, Mary Otten wrote:
>> Oh boy! That sounds like a big step back. Hopefully, they will fix this in 
>> the coming months.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've tried and it doesn't work. Unfortunately as you say the new
>>> keyboard layout is even worse than the old one and even though the TV
>>> has Siri you don't appear to be able to use dictation.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ben.
>>> 
 On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
 For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried connecting
 it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your results
 been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on the
 fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult, because
 they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the remote. It
 is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers. And 
 the
 author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt. They did
 not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think that 
 that
 might not be an option. So, what say you?
 
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[MamaPeach]

That is not fair to give that kind of advice. It has been said that an 
update is coming to fix that issue so that bluetooth keyboards will be able 
to be used.
-Original Message- 
From: chris

Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 1:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

Yes so I encourage anyone who relies on a bluetooth keyboard to think
twice before purchasing the new Apple TV. At least the third generation
will be around for the forseeable future.

On 01/11/2015 03:46, Mary Otten wrote:
Oh boy! That sounds like a big step back. Hopefully, they will fix this in 
the coming months.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:

I've tried and it doesn't work. Unfortunately as you say the new
keyboard layout is even worse than the old one and even though the TV
has Siri you don't appear to be able to use dictation.

Cheers,
Ben.


On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried 
connecting

it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your results
been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on 
the

fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult, because
they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the remote. 
It
is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers. And 
the
author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt. They 
did
not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think that 
that

might not be an option. So, what say you?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: How to Quote a Tweet on iPhone or Mac

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

There was an update to Night Owl recently that allows things like unlimited 
length DMs.

Best,
Anna



> On Nov 1, 2015, at 3:02 AM, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> This leads me to another question which i have pondered for a while now, is 
> there by chance another twitter application for the Mac accessible enough to 
> use and that supports modern features of Twitter? I feel that Nightowl is 
> lagging further and further behind.
> /Krister
> 
>> 1 nov. 2015 kl. 00:41 skrev Daniel Miller :
>> 
>> Night Owl doesn’t support quoted tweets. Who knows if it will, since the app 
>> seems to only get updated once a year when new OS versions come out these 
>> days.
>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 5:16 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In the native Twitter iPhone app, when you hit retweet, you were given a 
>>> choice as to whether you want to retweet, or quote tweet. When you double 
>>> tap the quote tweet button, you can write your comments in the edit box, 
>>> and your recipients will see the original tweet, and your comments.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:17 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
 
 Hey all,
 
 As someone who is not a big Twitter user I need to quote a few Tweets as I 
 have heard this is a good way to do things instead of retweeting as you 
 will reach more people. Of course I have yet to figure out how to do this 
 using VO. I have looked in Night Owl on the mac, Twitterrific on the 
 iPhone as well as the native Twitter app on the app for the iPhone. Does 
 anyone do this and if so how? Thanks,
 
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[chris]

The podcast said the remote iOS app works on the new Apple TV, just not 
bluetooth keyboards. To be honest they will have to include it as even 
without VoiceOver enabled one would still have to swipe through the 
entire keyboard and press on the touchpad to insert. So even for a 
sighted user it's a bit long winded.


On 01/11/2015 05:06, Daniel Miller wrote:

Hi,

For future reference, don’t put it in your pocket while you’re cleaning. lmao. 
But seriously, they do need to bring back bluetooth keyboard support, or at the 
very least, the ability to use the remote iOS app.


On Oct 31, 2015, at 11:38 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:

Hi,

You have to enter your password for the first download yes, but the TV
gives you the option to remember your password for future downloads.
Since I didn't know that the remote would behave in the way it did I
let it remember my password as I live on my own and reasoned that
there wouldn't really ever be a situation where someone else would be
alone with the TV in my flat.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:

It purchased a film? How did the keyboard purchase a film? Don't you have to
enter your password or at least use a touch ID or something? That really
sucks!
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 31, 2015, at 9:15 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:

Hi,

In my opinion, the Os, poticually Siri leaves a lot to be desired at
the moment, not to mention that there are some very obvious VO bugs
that really should have been fixed before release.
On a somewhat related note, I've found that if you keep the new remote
in your pocket it will sometimes activate various things as you walk
about. Yesterday I was tidying my bedroom with the remote in my pocket
and as a result, unbeknownst to me, the Apple TV (which is located in
my sitting room) purchased a film. Unfortunately the first I knew of
said purchase was when the film started playing, by which time it was
too late.

Cheers,
Ben.


On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
Oh boy! That sounds like a big step back. Hopefully, they will fix this
in
the coming months.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:

I've tried and it doesn't work. Unfortunately as you say the new
keyboard layout is even worse than the old one and even though the TV
has Siri you don't appear to be able to use dictation.

Cheers,
Ben.


On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried
connecting
it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your
results
been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on
the
fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult,
because
they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the
remote.
It
is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers.
And
the
author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt.
They
did
not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think
that
that
might not be an option. So, what say you?

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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[chris]

Sorry about that. I wasn't aware an update was forthcoming. Where did 
you find this out? Again sorry for the unfair advice.


On 01/11/2015 12:46, MamaPeach wrote:

That is not fair to give that kind of advice. It has been said that an
update is coming to fix that issue so that bluetooth keyboards will be
able to be used.
-Original Message- From: chris
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 1:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

Yes so I encourage anyone who relies on a bluetooth keyboard to think
twice before purchasing the new Apple TV. At least the third generation
will be around for the forseeable future.

On 01/11/2015 03:46, Mary Otten wrote:

Oh boy! That sounds like a big step back. Hopefully, they will fix
this in the coming months.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:

I've tried and it doesn't work. Unfortunately as you say the new
keyboard layout is even worse than the old one and even though the TV
has Siri you don't appear to be able to use dictation.

Cheers,
Ben.


On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried
connecting
it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your results
been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting
on the
fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult,
because
they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the
remote. It
is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers.
And the
author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt.
They did
not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think
that that
might not be an option. So, what say you?

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posting photos and posting to groups on facebook

[Stephanie]

Hi all,
I'm about to start a new job soon, and as part of my role I will need to post 
to facebook. Typically, the post will be text with a photo attached. They will 
be posted to facebook groups.
Now, I'd worked out how to save a photo. I'd worked out how to post it on my 
wall. But I cant post to groups.  How do I post photo to groups.
Also, is there a way of posting to several groups at once?
Lastly, when I did save the photo how do I exit back in to mmessenger app. I 
had to go to the app switcher and close the app.
Thanks for any help.
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[chris]

Ar ok, just got this message so please disregard my query.

On 01/11/2015 12:22, Gadget Girl wrote:

Hello everyone.  I was in the Apple Store yesterday and was told by a manager 
that an update to the software is coming which will enable the Apple bluetooth 
keyboard and the new Apple magic keyboard to work with the new Apple TV.  He 
said the update should be out in days.  FYI.

Regards,
Gadget Girl
Sent from my Apple gadget and dictated using Siri.


On Nov 1, 2015, at 1:48 AM, chris  wrote:

Yes so I encourage anyone who relies on a bluetooth keyboard to think twice 
before purchasing the new Apple TV. At least the third generation will be 
around for the forseeable future.


On 01/11/2015 03:46, Mary Otten wrote:
Oh boy! That sounds like a big step back. Hopefully, they will fix this in the 
coming months.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:

I've tried and it doesn't work. Unfortunately as you say the new
keyboard layout is even worse than the old one and even though the TV
has Siri you don't appear to be able to use dictation.

Cheers,
Ben.


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For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried connecting
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fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult, because
they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the remote. It
is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers. And the
author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt. They did
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might not be an option. So, what say you?

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Re: anyone else having trouble with using ApplePay on the apple store app?

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I am using Huntington. I called Apple and gave them my info over the phone.

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 4:28 AM, Amy Ruell  wrote:
> 
> You mean the way Apple Pay reports the Apple Pay name? What bank are you 
> using?
> 
>  Was there any way to resolve this? Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 6:32 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
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>> I had the same problem. My bank would not accept them because of the way 
>> they report their name. This is after I confirmed the gtransaction several 
>> times.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Subject line says it all. I have had 4 support calls with Apple about this 
>>> to no avail. Have checked and my settings and account information are all 
>>> correct in iTunes and Wallet and ApplePay app. I have been able to 
>>> successfully pay with ApplePay in the Apple store, can purchase using 
>>> “other payment options” within the Apple store app, and have checked online 
>>> to make sure that my Apple ID is correct. I have re-set network settings 
>>> twice, verified and re-entered my billing address multiple times, and have 
>>> tried to order using cellular data. I have deleted and re-installed the 
>>> Apple store app.
>>> When I attempt to purchase using touch id, I get “error image”, which 
>>> points to the billing address. This has also been verified by a sighted 
>>> person. The only thing I note is that my ship to name is incorrect, though 
>>> it is correct in my Wallet app.
>>> Any additional suggestions?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Amy
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Re: anyone else having trouble with using ApplePay on the apple store app?

[Amy Ruell]

You mean the way Apple Pay reports the Apple Pay name? What bank are you using?

 Was there any way to resolve this? Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 6:32 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
> wrote:
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> I had the same problem. My bank would not accept them because of the way they 
> report their name. This is after I confirmed the gtransaction several times.
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
>> 
>> Subject line says it all. I have had 4 support calls with Apple about this 
>> to no avail. Have checked and my settings and account information are all 
>> correct in iTunes and Wallet and ApplePay app. I have been able to 
>> successfully pay with ApplePay in the Apple store, can purchase using “other 
>> payment options” within the Apple store app, and have checked online to make 
>> sure that my Apple ID is correct. I have re-set network settings twice, 
>> verified and re-entered my billing address multiple times, and have tried to 
>> order using cellular data. I have deleted and re-installed the Apple store 
>> app.
>> When I attempt to purchase using touch id, I get “error image”, which points 
>> to the billing address. This has also been verified by a sighted person. The 
>> only thing I note is that my ship to name is incorrect, though it is correct 
>> in my Wallet app.
>> Any additional suggestions?
>> Thanks.
>> Amy
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Re: anyone else having trouble with using ApplePay on the apple store app?

[Amy Ruell]

My state is entered correctly. My street is run, Not St., Drive or Road. I 
wonder why this should be a factor, since I can use Apple Pay at the store and 
also can use the very same credit card with iTunes.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 7:40 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
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> You need to use the 2 letter abbreviation for the state name, as well as 2 
> letters for street, drive, etc, otherwise the billing address won’t be 
> accepted, at least in my experience.
>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 5:32 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I had the same problem. My bank would not accept them because of the way 
>> they report their name. This is after I confirmed the gtransaction several 
>> times.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Subject line says it all. I have had 4 support calls with Apple about this 
>>> to no avail. Have checked and my settings and account information are all 
>>> correct in iTunes and Wallet and ApplePay app. I have been able to 
>>> successfully pay with ApplePay in the Apple store, can purchase using 
>>> “other payment options” within the Apple store app, and have checked online 
>>> to make sure that my Apple ID is correct. I have re-set network settings 
>>> twice, verified and re-entered my billing address multiple times, and have 
>>> tried to order using cellular data. I have deleted and re-installed the 
>>> Apple store app.
>>> When I attempt to purchase using touch id, I get “error image”, which 
>>> points to the billing address. This has also been verified by a sighted 
>>> person. The only thing I note is that my ship to name is incorrect, though 
>>> it is correct in my Wallet app.
>>> Any additional suggestions?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Amy
>>>  
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Brian and all, I agree with you. The term half baked Apples comes to mind at 
the moment. It has huge potential, and I'm sure it is going to be really good, 
but to me it's not even feeling like a 1.0 product right now. On the third gen, 
we used to use the Radio app, for listening to Internet radio stations 
including the one I manage, Mushroom FM. Apple hasn't included it with this 
release, and there's no equivalent app in the App Store that I've been able to 
find.
We listen to a lot of podcasts on the Apple TV. But Apple hasn't even done a 
version of its own Podcasts app, even though there was one for the third 
generation.
For both of these issues, Airplay is a work-around, but then you're involving 
another device, which in my view is a step backwards. Hopefully Downcast or 
Overcast will come to the platform soon for Podcasts, and TuneIn Radio would be 
great for Mushroom FM and similar stations.
When, in the podcast, it became clear to me that Bluetooth keyboard support is 
not in the software right now, I consoled myself by thinking that I could use 
the excellent Remote app for iOS and Watch OS, and control the TV that way. But 
you can't, Apple's own Remote app doesn't yet work with Apple's own brand new 
Apple TV.
It's also curious to me that despite the great storage and fast chip, you get 
no choice of voice in VO, unless you change your region.
On the third-party side, we've lost Netflix with audio description, and Hulu 
isn't accessible.
And as Sieghard has said in this thread and I pointed out in my podcast, Siri 
isn't supported here in New Zealand, even though New Zealand English is a 
choice in iOS.
I think all these things may well be addressed, but if you have a functional 
third generation unit and enjoy it for some of these functions, you might want 
to hang on a bit. For those who think it's fun to be on the cutting edge, this 
product shows a lot of promise and I'm sure it's going to get very good over 
time.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
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> On 2/11/2015, at 3:54 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> I think as more developers get a hold of the AppleTV it will get better, but 
> the fact that you cannot pair a bluetooth keyboard, that Netflix left 
> described video out as a option, and that typing is dreadful I would not run 
> out and buy a AppleTv yet. Very disappointed in it so far. 
>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, chris  wrote:
>> 
>> Ar ok, just got this message so please disregard my query.
>> 
>> On 01/11/2015 12:22, Gadget Girl wrote:
>>> Hello everyone.  I was in the Apple Store yesterday and was told by a 
>>> manager that an update to the software is coming which will enable the 
>>> Apple bluetooth keyboard and the new Apple magic keyboard to work with the 
>>> new Apple TV.  He said the update should be out in days.  FYI.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Gadget Girl
>>> Sent from my Apple gadget and dictated using Siri.
>>> 
 On Nov 1, 2015, at 1:48 AM, chris  wrote:
 
 Yes so I encourage anyone who relies on a bluetooth keyboard to think 
 twice before purchasing the new Apple TV. At least the third generation 
 will be around for the forseeable future.
 
> On 01/11/2015 03:46, Mary Otten wrote:
> Oh boy! That sounds like a big step back. Hopefully, they will fix this 
> in the coming months.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>> 
>> I've tried and it doesn't work. Unfortunately as you say the new
>> keyboard layout is even worse than the old one and even though the TV
>> has Siri you don't appear to be able to use dictation.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ben.
>> 
>>> On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried 
>>> connecting
>>> it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your results
>>> been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on 
>>> the
>>> fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult, because
>>> they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the 
>>> remote. It
>>> is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers. 
>>> And the
>>> author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt. They 
>>> did
>>> not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think that 
>>> that
>>> might not be an option. So, what say you?
>>> 
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Re: The important file listed in Gmail!

[Christopher Chaltain]

As with all Gmail folders, this is just a label added to your messages. 
It's not an additional copy of your message.


Gmail is flagging the messages it thinks is important to you based on 
who it's from, what it says and how you've handled similar messages in 
the past. I Googled this and there is a ton of information out there on 
how to remove this or change what Gmail considers is important.


Personally, I plan on looking into this at some time because I'm always 
looking for a more efficient way to handle my email, but I haven't done 
this yet, so for now, I just ignore the Important folder.


On 11/01/2015 11:28 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone wrote:

Hi all,

I meant to ask this for ages but haven't done so. I noticed quite early on when 
using Gmail with the phone that there was an important folder created. It seems 
to me that everything ends up in it, whether you delete items or not. In fact, 
yesterday I deleted a lot of messages and they have just come back again! Smiley

Now, please tell me, just what goes on here! Anyone got any good solutions, 
apart from forgetting that the folder exists and simply ignoring it!

I look forward to hearing from you if you have a solution. I don't think you 
can delete the folder, by the way, in case anyone comes up with that one. If 
you know it can be done, of course I will be glad to hear about it!
  Carol P
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Re: Does the Apple Remote app work for the new Apple TV 4th generation?

[Daniel Miller]

Hi,

Unfortunately, the remote app does not work with the 4th generation.

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 11:59 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Awaiting my new Apple TV to arrive this week.
> 
> I've never used the Apple Remote app. Has that worked well with earlier 
> generations of Apple TV? The description of the app today from the app store 
> said it only works with 3rd generation and earlier. Has anyone heard if an 
> Apple TV Remote app will be made available for the new TV?
> 
> Thanks, Keith
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RE: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That would match Jonathan's experience when he tried to pair a Bluetooth 
keyboard with his Apple TV foruth gen in his Jonathan at Large Podcast. It 
really appears that Apple has not added Bluetooth keyboard support. Let's all 
write to accessibil...@apple.com and request they fix this, after all, I don't 
see how the hardware would not support it, it should just be a matter of a 
software update.


Regards,
Sieghard

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I have the new apple TV. I have tried three different bluetooth keyboards. 
Neither keyboard would pair. As a matter of fact, the apple TV didn’t appear to 
even recognize that I was trying to pair a device. 
> On Oct 31, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried connecting it 
> with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your results been? I 
> saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on the fact that 
> typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult, because they don't 
> have the grid that they used to have for use with the remote. It is 
> apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers. And the 
> author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt. They did 
> not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think that that 
> might not be an option. So, what say you?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[chris]

No it's not an accessibility thing as even sighted consumers would use a 
bluetooth keyboard for typing just like they would on an iOS device.


On 01/11/2015 16:49, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

I'm not sure anyone needs to calm down. No one seems to upset over this
to me.

I'm not so sure it's coming, since I haven't seen an official
announcement from Apple, but it definitely won't be coming if Apple
doesn't know it's being asked for.

I don't see this as an accessibility issue though, so I'd be more
inclined to ask for it using Apple's normal feedback channels.

On 11/01/2015 10:33 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

I’m sure it’s coming, everyone just calm down. lol


On Nov 1, 2015, at 10:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

That would match Jonathan's experience when he tried to pair a
Bluetooth keyboard with his Apple TV foruth gen in his Jonathan at
Large Podcast. It really appears that Apple has not added Bluetooth
keyboard support. Let's all write to accessibil...@apple.com and
request they fix this, after all, I don't see how the hardware would
not support it, it should just be a matter of a software update.


Regards,
Sieghard

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

I have the new apple TV. I have tried three different bluetooth
keyboards. Neither keyboard would pair. As a matter of fact, the
apple TV didn’t appear to even recognize that I was trying to pair a
device.

On Oct 31, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried
connecting it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what
have your results been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other
today commenting on the fact that typing stuff on the screen is now
much more difficult, because they don't have the grid that they used
to have for use with the remote. It is apparently one long line of
letters and one long line of numbers. And the author was complaining
that this was very much a pain in the butt. They did not say
anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think that that
might not be an option. So, what say you?

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RE: The important file listed in Gmail!

[Connie Mohney]

Hello Christopher and Carol,
In gmail, there are options such as delete, mark read, flag archive delete 
and more.  I have not explored the more button yet.  But when I click on 
archive, all the archived messages go into the important folder.  As 
Christopher said other messages go in there as well.  So, I'm going to have to 
explore the more button and see if there is a way to just have archived 
messages go in there.  Hope this helps.
Connie , 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The important file listed in Gmail!

As with all Gmail folders, this is just a label added to your messages. 
It's not an additional copy of your message.

Gmail is flagging the messages it thinks is important to you based on who it's 
from, what it says and how you've handled similar messages in the past. I 
Googled this and there is a ton of information out there on how to remove this 
or change what Gmail considers is important.

Personally, I plan on looking into this at some time because I'm always looking 
for a more efficient way to handle my email, but I haven't done this yet, so 
for now, I just ignore the Important folder.

On 11/01/2015 11:28 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I meant to ask this for ages but haven't done so. I noticed quite 
> early on when using Gmail with the phone that there was an important 
> folder created. It seems to me that everything ends up in it, whether 
> you delete items or not. In fact, yesterday I deleted a lot of 
> messages and they have just come back again! Smiley
>
> Now, please tell me, just what goes on here! Anyone got any good solutions, 
> apart from forgetting that the folder exists and simply ignoring it!
>
> I look forward to hearing from you if you have a solution. I don't think you 
> can delete the folder, by the way, in case anyone comes up with that one. If 
> you know it can be done, of course I will be glad to hear about it!
>   Carol P
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Re: How to Quote a Tweet on iPhone or Mac

[Candie Doy]

Hello all. Apologies for this response being more off-topic. I wanted to help, 
but I can’t remember which, or how many, people wanted to know how to retweet 
with comment using Night Owl, so I can’t reply to them individually. If you 
look in the ’tweet’ menu, you’ll see the ‘retweet with comment’ option. The 
keyboard command to do this is command-option-v. I have also looked for an 
accessible twitter app, but this is the only one I found. I’ve learned the hard 
way that the app store on the Mac is not as useful as the one on the iPhone. 
Applevis.com  has become my favourite website. :-)
If anyone knows of a helpful list like this one for Mac users, please let me 
know off-list.


Regards,

Candie

Candie D
Twitter: @CandaceDrmr

Sent from my MacBook Air



> On 31 Oct 2015, at 11:41 pm, Daniel Miller  wrote:
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> Night Owl doesn’t support quoted tweets. Who knows if it will, since the app 
> seems to only get updated once a year when new OS versions come out these 
> days.
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 5:16 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
>> 
>> In the native Twitter iPhone app, when you hit retweet, you were given a 
>> choice as to whether you want to retweet, or quote tweet. When you double 
>> tap the quote tweet button, you can write your comments in the edit box, and 
>> your recipients will see the original tweet, and your comments.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:17 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> As someone who is not a big Twitter user I need to quote a few Tweets as I 
>>> have heard this is a good way to do things instead of retweeting as you 
>>> will reach more people. Of course I have yet to figure out how to do this 
>>> using VO. I have looked in Night Owl on the mac, Twitterrific on the iPhone 
>>> as well as the native Twitter app on the app for the iPhone. Does anyone do 
>>> this and if so how? Thanks,
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm not sure anyone needs to calm down. No one seems to upset over this 
to me.


I'm not so sure it's coming, since I haven't seen an official 
announcement from Apple, but it definitely won't be coming if Apple 
doesn't know it's being asked for.


I don't see this as an accessibility issue though, so I'd be more 
inclined to ask for it using Apple's normal feedback channels.


On 11/01/2015 10:33 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

I’m sure it’s coming, everyone just calm down. lol


On Nov 1, 2015, at 10:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

That would match Jonathan's experience when he tried to pair a Bluetooth 
keyboard with his Apple TV foruth gen in his Jonathan at Large Podcast. It 
really appears that Apple has not added Bluetooth keyboard support. Let's all 
write to accessibil...@apple.com and request they fix this, after all, I don't 
see how the hardware would not support it, it should just be a matter of a 
software update.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Larry Smith
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 3:27 AM
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Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

I have the new apple TV. I have tried three different bluetooth keyboards. 
Neither keyboard would pair. As a matter of fact, the apple TV didn’t appear to 
even recognize that I was trying to pair a device.

On Oct 31, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried connecting it 
with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your results been? I 
saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on the fact that 
typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult, because they don't have 
the grid that they used to have for use with the remote. It is apparently one 
long line of letters and one long line of numbers. And the author was 
complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt. They did not say 
anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think that that might not 
be an option. So, what say you?

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Does the Apple Remote app work for the new Apple TV 4th generation?

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

Awaiting my new Apple TV to arrive this week.

I've never used the Apple Remote app. Has that worked well with earlier 
generations of Apple TV? The description of the app today from the app store 
said it only works with 3rd generation and earlier. Has anyone heard if an 
Apple TV Remote app will be made available for the new TV?

Thanks, Keith

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Whats App on two iPhones

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello List,

 

I am curious if anybody knows more about why it seems not possible to use
Whats App on two iPhones. I have my new iPhone 6S, but I also still have my
5S which is unlocked and which I will most likely keep until March so I can
use it for my trip to the Philippines. Anyhow, I had of course installed
Whats App on my new 6S and set it up. Everything works fine, but just this
morning I was streaming some music via Airplay to my Sonos system and I
wanted to use Whats App to send a voice message to a friend. Anyhow, I
reached for my 5S and when I opened Whats App it told me that this phone
wasn't verified. So I put in my phone number and it ended up sending a text
with a verification code to my 6S, I entered the code and everything worked
fine on the 5S and I was able to send my message.

A bit later I went back to my 6S and now Whats App here said it wasn't
verified and I had to go through the process all over, send a new
verification message and so on. This time, however, I was told I couldn't
verify it right now and I had to wait another 23 minutes before trying it
again so it seems that you half to wait about 30 minutes in between
verifying a second time.

Anyhow, my question is why I can't simplyuse Whats App on two devices. I
should mention that my 5S is only connected to WiFi right now and has no SIM
so maybe that is the reason?

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Christopher Chaltain]

I don't see anything wrong with your advice. It's still true and sound. 
You might want to ammend it by saying an update is forthcoming, but 
until it's actually here, and we know it fixes these issues, I still 
think this is good advice.


On 11/01/2015 07:14 AM, chris wrote:

Sorry about that. I wasn't aware an update was forthcoming. Where did
you find this out? Again sorry for the unfair advice.

On 01/11/2015 12:46, MamaPeach wrote:

That is not fair to give that kind of advice. It has been said that an
update is coming to fix that issue so that bluetooth keyboards will be
able to be used.
-Original Message- From: chris
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 1:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

Yes so I encourage anyone who relies on a bluetooth keyboard to think
twice before purchasing the new Apple TV. At least the third generation
will be around for the forseeable future.

On 01/11/2015 03:46, Mary Otten wrote:

Oh boy! That sounds like a big step back. Hopefully, they will fix
this in the coming months.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:

I've tried and it doesn't work. Unfortunately as you say the new
keyboard layout is even worse than the old one and even though the TV
has Siri you don't appear to be able to use dictation.

Cheers,
Ben.


On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried
connecting
it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your
results
been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting
on the
fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult,
because
they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the
remote. It
is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers.
And the
author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt.
They did
not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think
that that
might not be an option. So, what say you?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: anyone else having trouble with using ApplePay on the apple store app?

[John Diakogeorgiou]

That is strange. I am not sure what is causing your problem.

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Amy Ruell  wrote:
> 
> I called my bank, there are no problems there. They have me registered with 
> Apple Pay and see no difficulties. Still a maddening mystery!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 7:57 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am using Huntington. I called Apple and gave them my info over the phone.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 4:28 AM, Amy Ruell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You mean the way Apple Pay reports the Apple Pay name? What bank are you 
>>> using?
>>> 
>>>  Was there any way to resolve this? Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 31, 2015, at 6:32 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
 wrote:
 
 I had the same problem. My bank would not accept them because of the way 
 they report their name. This is after I confirmed the gtransaction several 
 times.
 
 John Diakogeorgiou
 
> On Oct 31, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
> 
> Subject line says it all. I have had 4 support calls with Apple about 
> this to no avail. Have checked and my settings and account information 
> are all correct in iTunes and Wallet and ApplePay app. I have been able 
> to successfully pay with ApplePay in the Apple store, can purchase using 
> “other payment options” within the Apple store app, and have checked 
> online to make sure that my Apple ID is correct. I have re-set network 
> settings twice, verified and re-entered my billing address multiple 
> times, and have tried to order using cellular data. I have deleted and 
> re-installed the Apple store app.
> When I attempt to purchase using touch id, I get “error image”, which 
> points to the billing address. This has also been verified by a sighted 
> person. The only thing I note is that my ship to name is incorrect, 
> though it is correct in my Wallet app.
> Any additional suggestions?
> Thanks.
> Amy
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RE: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Daniel,

They should leave out Bluetooth keyboard support because they want people to 
use SIRI when it appears in some countries SIRI on the Apple TV is not 
available, example, New Zealand. I don't know about Australia and Europe, but 
if they have Bluetooth support and they support all sorts of third-party game 
controllers not having support for Bluetooth keyboards makes little sense to me.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Daniel Miller
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

Plus, they’re trying to push the universal search experience with Siri, so I 
can kind of understand why they didn’t add it, even though yes, it is rather 
annoying, I’m not saying it isn’t. But from Apple’s point of view, they want 
people to use the Siri functionality more. And also, they added a recent 
keyboard that contains all the email addresses and account names you’ve typed 
before, so to be fair, you’d only need to enter your passwords with the 
annoying keyboard.

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 10:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> That would match Jonathan's experience when he tried to pair a Bluetooth 
> keyboard with his Apple TV foruth gen in his Jonathan at Large Podcast. It 
> really appears that Apple has not added Bluetooth keyboard support. Let's all 
> write to accessibil...@apple.com and request they fix this, after all, I 
> don't see how the hardware would not support it, it should just be a matter 
> of a software update.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Larry Smith
> Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 3:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV
> 
> I have the new apple TV. I have tried three different bluetooth keyboards. 
> Neither keyboard would pair. As a matter of fact, the apple TV didn’t appear 
> to even recognize that I was trying to pair a device. 
>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried connecting 
>> it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your results 
>> been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on the 
>> fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult, because 
>> they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the remote. It 
>> is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers. And the 
>> author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt. They did 
>> not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think that that 
>> might not be an option. So, what say you?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Daniel Miller]

Plus, they’re trying to push the universal search experience with Siri, so I 
can kind of understand why they didn’t add it, even though yes, it is rather 
annoying, I’m not saying it isn’t. But from Apple’s point of view, they want 
people to use the Siri functionality more. And also, they added a recent 
keyboard that contains all the email addresses and account names you’ve typed 
before, so to be fair, you’d only need to enter your passwords with the 
annoying keyboard.

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 10:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> That would match Jonathan's experience when he tried to pair a Bluetooth 
> keyboard with his Apple TV foruth gen in his Jonathan at Large Podcast. It 
> really appears that Apple has not added Bluetooth keyboard support. Let's all 
> write to accessibil...@apple.com and request they fix this, after all, I 
> don't see how the hardware would not support it, it should just be a matter 
> of a software update.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Larry Smith
> Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 3:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV
> 
> I have the new apple TV. I have tried three different bluetooth keyboards. 
> Neither keyboard would pair. As a matter of fact, the apple TV didn’t appear 
> to even recognize that I was trying to pair a device. 
>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried connecting 
>> it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your results 
>> been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on the 
>> fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult, because 
>> they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the remote. It 
>> is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers. And the 
>> author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt. They did 
>> not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think that that 
>> might not be an option. So, what say you?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: anyone else having trouble with using ApplePay on the apple store app?

[Amy Ruell]

I called my bank, there are no problems there. They have me registered with 
Apple Pay and see no difficulties. Still a maddening mystery!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 7:57 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  wrote:
> 
> I am using Huntington. I called Apple and gave them my info over the phone.
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 4:28 AM, Amy Ruell  wrote:
>> 
>> You mean the way Apple Pay reports the Apple Pay name? What bank are you 
>> using?
>> 
>>  Was there any way to resolve this? Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 6:32 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I had the same problem. My bank would not accept them because of the way 
>>> they report their name. This is after I confirmed the gtransaction several 
>>> times.
>>> 
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>> 
 On Oct 31, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
 
 Subject line says it all. I have had 4 support calls with Apple about this 
 to no avail. Have checked and my settings and account information are all 
 correct in iTunes and Wallet and ApplePay app. I have been able to 
 successfully pay with ApplePay in the Apple store, can purchase using 
 “other payment options” within the Apple store app, and have checked 
 online to make sure that my Apple ID is correct. I have re-set network 
 settings twice, verified and re-entered my billing address multiple times, 
 and have tried to order using cellular data. I have deleted and 
 re-installed the Apple store app.
 When I attempt to purchase using touch id, I get “error image”, which 
 points to the billing address. This has also been verified by a sighted 
 person. The only thing I note is that my ship to name is incorrect, though 
 it is correct in my Wallet app.
 Any additional suggestions?
 Thanks.
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Re: "OFF topic, slightly

[Casey]

Hi do you happen to know the model number of your router?
Also how easy is the router to configure with a screen reader and does 
it have A web page to log in to so that you can adjust all of its 
settings and how exactly do you log in to the router?
Then if you get the same brand of extender then let say if you have your 
router down stairs and you plug in the extender up stairs will it still 
boost the signal?

Also how do you configure the extender once you plug it in?
So you get it up and running?



On 10/25/2015 3:41 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Regina,

I am not a big fan of using ISP routers, wireless or wired.

Because I prefer to use my Windows computer to manage my home network, I use a 
Cisco router, combined with a Cisco extender.  The extender costs about $20, 
from Best Buy and is, of course, wireless.

Because the router and the extender are made by the same company, configuration 
between the two devices is virtually automatic.

I have the MODEM and router upstairs and the tiny little extender simply 
plugged into an outlet, down stairs.  As a consequence, I receive 96% 
connection from anywhere in the house.

Mark


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Regina Alvarado
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 9:01 AM
To: Viphone
Subject: "OFF topic, slightly

Off topic but not. I need a device to help boost my wifi. We have a router that 
belongs to a cable company. What am I looking for to boost signal, and if 
possible any thoughts on the best one? Thanks for the help, and sorry about off 
topic. BTW, we have both windows and apple.

reggie & Lex



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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Daniel Miller]

Keep in mind, tvOS is a first-generation OS, even though it’s 95% based on an 
OS that’s been around for years. Of course there will be kinks, whether or not 
someone wants to be an early adopter and go through the growing pains is up to 
each individual.
> On Nov 1, 2015, at 8:54 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> I think as more developers get a hold of the AppleTV it will get better, but 
> the fact that you cannot pair a bluetooth keyboard, that Netflix left 
> described video out as a option, and that typing is dreadful I would not run 
> out and buy a AppleTv yet. Very disappointed in it so far. 
>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, chris  wrote:
>> 
>> Ar ok, just got this message so please disregard my query.
>> 
>> On 01/11/2015 12:22, Gadget Girl wrote:
>>> Hello everyone.  I was in the Apple Store yesterday and was told by a 
>>> manager that an update to the software is coming which will enable the 
>>> Apple bluetooth keyboard and the new Apple magic keyboard to work with the 
>>> new Apple TV.  He said the update should be out in days.  FYI.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Gadget Girl
>>> Sent from my Apple gadget and dictated using Siri.
>>> 
 On Nov 1, 2015, at 1:48 AM, chris  wrote:
 
 Yes so I encourage anyone who relies on a bluetooth keyboard to think 
 twice before purchasing the new Apple TV. At least the third generation 
 will be around for the forseeable future.
 
> On 01/11/2015 03:46, Mary Otten wrote:
> Oh boy! That sounds like a big step back. Hopefully, they will fix this 
> in the coming months.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>> 
>> I've tried and it doesn't work. Unfortunately as you say the new
>> keyboard layout is even worse than the old one and even though the TV
>> has Siri you don't appear to be able to use dictation.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ben.
>> 
>>> On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried 
>>> connecting
>>> it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your results
>>> been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on 
>>> the
>>> fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult, because
>>> they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the 
>>> remote. It
>>> is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers. 
>>> And the
>>> author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt. They 
>>> did
>>> not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think that 
>>> that
>>> might not be an option. So, what say you?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: The important file listed in Gmail!

[Rajmund]

Hello Carol,
Its a default folder, when I have first set up imap with the sense, no IOS, 
anything, it was there.

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Subject: The important file listed in Gmail!

>
>
> Hi all,
> 
> I meant to ask this for ages but haven't done so. I noticed quite early on 
> when using Gmail with the phone that there was an important folder created. 
> It seems to me that everything ends up in it, whether you delete items or 
> not. In fact, yesterday I deleted a lot of messages and they have just come 
> back again! Smiley
> 
> Now, please tell me, just what goes on here! Anyone got any good solutions, 
> apart from forgetting that the folder exists and simply ignoring it!
> 
> I look forward to hearing from you if you have a solution. I don't think you 
> can delete the folder, by the way, in case anyone comes up with that one. If 
> you know it can be done, of course I will be glad to hear about it!
>  Carol P
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Re: The important file listed in Gmail!

[Rajmund]

Hello,
Well, there are 8 folders, I can see the use of 5. 

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Date: Sunday, November 1, 2015 5:57 pm
Subject: Re: The important file listed in Gmail!

>
>
> Hi,
> 
> Oh well, so we'll have it! Smiley well, I don't like it and I'm sure others 
> don't either! Thanks for the heads up though, at least I know I'm not alone!
> 
> 
> 
> Carol P
> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
> 
> On 1 Nov 2015, at 17:36, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hello Carol,
> Its a default folder, when I have first set up imap with the sense, no IOS, 
> anything, it was there.
> 
> - Original Message -
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> To: VI Phone Users  
> Date: Sunday, November 1, 2015 5:28 pm
> Subject: The important file listed in Gmail!
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I meant to ask this for ages but haven't done so. I noticed quite early on 
> > when using Gmail with the phone that there was an important folder created. 
> > It seems to me that everything ends up in it, whether you delete items or 
> > not. In fact, yesterday I deleted a lot of messages and they have just come 
> > back again! Smiley
> > 
> > Now, please tell me, just what goes on here! Anyone got any good solutions, 
> > apart from forgetting that the folder exists and simply ignoring it!
> > 
> > I look forward to hearing from you if you have a solution. I don't think 
> > you can delete the folder, by the way, in case anyone comes up with that 
> > one. If you know it can be done, of course I will be glad to hear about it!
> > Carol P
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Christopher Chaltain]

True, I saw that message, but hearing from someone that they heard from 
someone that something is coming soon is not the same thing as an 
official announcement from Apple. Apple is a large company, so I'm not 
sure every representative in an Apple store knows what's going on with 
the test and release teams in Apple for all of Apple's products. I would 
not recommend something based on what an employee in an Apple store told 
me. I'd wait until I knew it was available, it worked and it was 
accessible. This isn't just true for Apple, but any large company.


On 11/01/2015 12:32 PM, MamaPeach wrote:

A person on another list said that while he was in the Apple Store, he
spoke with a rep and they told him that an update is soon to be released
that would bring back support for bluetooth keyboards for the Apple TV
4th generation.

-Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

I don't see anything wrong with your advice. It's still true and sound.
You might want to ammend it by saying an update is forthcoming, but
until it's actually here, and we know it fixes these issues, I still
think this is good advice.

On 11/01/2015 07:14 AM, chris wrote:

Sorry about that. I wasn't aware an update was forthcoming. Where did
you find this out? Again sorry for the unfair advice.

On 01/11/2015 12:46, MamaPeach wrote:

That is not fair to give that kind of advice. It has been said that an
update is coming to fix that issue so that bluetooth keyboards will be
able to be used.
-Original Message- From: chris
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 1:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

Yes so I encourage anyone who relies on a bluetooth keyboard to think
twice before purchasing the new Apple TV. At least the third generation
will be around for the forseeable future.

On 01/11/2015 03:46, Mary Otten wrote:

Oh boy! That sounds like a big step back. Hopefully, they will fix
this in the coming months.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:

I've tried and it doesn't work. Unfortunately as you say the new
keyboard layout is even worse than the old one and even though the TV
has Siri you don't appear to be able to use dictation.

Cheers,
Ben.


On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried
connecting
it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your
results
been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting
on the
fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult,
because
they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the
remote. It
is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers.
And the
author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt.
They did
not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think
that that
might not be an option. So, what say you?

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: TuneIn Radio

[rhs]

I'm running TuneIn Radio.  I am listening to the game on ESPN, not the premium 
subscription.  I get an add when I start listening and there are always adds on 
the screen.  However, they do not interfear with listening to the game (or talk 
or whatever I am listening to).  This video thing is different because when it 
pops up there are two audio tracks running at the same time.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gary Ketler
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 8:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TuneIn Radio

I have this same issue. It occurs every 5 minutes or so.



> On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:14 PM,   wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have been having a problem listening to the World Series on TuneIn Radio.  
> While the game is playing a window with a video is popping up and playing.  
> The audio from the video is playing along with the game I'm trying to listen 
> to.  I pause the video and press "done" to go back to the "now playing" 
> screen.  A second or 20 later the video pops back up and plays again.
> 
> Anyone have any ideas?
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Daniel Miller]

I’m sure it’s coming, everyone just calm down. lol

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 10:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> That would match Jonathan's experience when he tried to pair a Bluetooth 
> keyboard with his Apple TV foruth gen in his Jonathan at Large Podcast. It 
> really appears that Apple has not added Bluetooth keyboard support. Let's all 
> write to accessibil...@apple.com and request they fix this, after all, I 
> don't see how the hardware would not support it, it should just be a matter 
> of a software update.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Larry Smith
> Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 3:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV
> 
> I have the new apple TV. I have tried three different bluetooth keyboards. 
> Neither keyboard would pair. As a matter of fact, the apple TV didn’t appear 
> to even recognize that I was trying to pair a device. 
>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried connecting 
>> it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your results 
>> been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on the 
>> fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult, because 
>> they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the remote. It 
>> is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers. And the 
>> author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt. They did 
>> not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think that that 
>> might not be an option. So, what say you?
>> 
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[MamaPeach]

A person on another list said that while he was in the Apple Store, he spoke 
with a rep and they told him that an update is soon to be released that 
would bring back support for bluetooth keyboards for the Apple TV 4th 
generation.


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

I don't see anything wrong with your advice. It's still true and sound.
You might want to ammend it by saying an update is forthcoming, but
until it's actually here, and we know it fixes these issues, I still
think this is good advice.

On 11/01/2015 07:14 AM, chris wrote:

Sorry about that. I wasn't aware an update was forthcoming. Where did
you find this out? Again sorry for the unfair advice.

On 01/11/2015 12:46, MamaPeach wrote:

That is not fair to give that kind of advice. It has been said that an
update is coming to fix that issue so that bluetooth keyboards will be
able to be used.
-Original Message- From: chris
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 1:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

Yes so I encourage anyone who relies on a bluetooth keyboard to think
twice before purchasing the new Apple TV. At least the third generation
will be around for the forseeable future.

On 01/11/2015 03:46, Mary Otten wrote:

Oh boy! That sounds like a big step back. Hopefully, they will fix
this in the coming months.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:

I've tried and it doesn't work. Unfortunately as you say the new
keyboard layout is even worse than the old one and even though the TV
has Siri you don't appear to be able to use dictation.

Cheers,
Ben.


On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried
connecting
it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your
results
been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting
on the
fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult,
because
they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the
remote. It
is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers.
And the
author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt.
They did
not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think
that that
might not be an option. So, what say you?

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Re: Does music purchased on iTunes store on the phone automatically go to my mac?

[Grant]

If you are using iTunes Match on both devices, the purchases should show up on 
your Mac automatically. Check the iTunes library on your Mac to see if the new 
purchases are there. An easy place to look is the “recently added” playlist. 
You may have to tell iTunes on your Mac to download the tracks. To do this, 
open the context menu (VO+SHIFT+M) while one or multiple songs are selected and 
select “make available offline”. This will cause the tracks to download. 
There’s a setting in the iTunes preferences (COMMAND+COMMA to open the 
preferences window) where you can specify that you want all newly purchased 
tracks to automatically download on your Mac. This option is under the store 
tab, and may already be selected. If it is not checked, checking the box will 
only apply to future purchases but not the songs you’ve already bought.

Hope this helps,

Grant

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 5:01:16 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I think the answer to this question is probably know, but I thought I would 
> ask anyway. I generally try to avoid buying music using my phone. But, I just 
> bought some stuff using the Russian keyboard on my phone and now I'm 
> wondering how I'm going to get that into my iTunes library on the Mac. I do 
> have iTunes match also. And I do not have anything in my library that is not 
> something I purchased or ripped. Should I suppose that the things I bought 
> are going to show up on my mac? Or do I have to transfer the purchases using 
> iTunes on the Mac?
> Mary
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The important file listed in Gmail!

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Hi all,

I meant to ask this for ages but haven't done so. I noticed quite early on when 
using Gmail with the phone that there was an important folder created. It seems 
to me that everything ends up in it, whether you delete items or not. In fact, 
yesterday I deleted a lot of messages and they have just come back again! Smiley

Now, please tell me, just what goes on here! Anyone got any good solutions, 
apart from forgetting that the folder exists and simply ignoring it!

I look forward to hearing from you if you have a solution. I don't think you 
can delete the folder, by the way, in case anyone comes up with that one. If 
you know it can be done, of course I will be glad to hear about it!
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Re: The important file listed in Gmail!

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Hi,

Oh well, so we'll have it! Smiley well, I don't like it and I'm sure others 
don't either! Thanks for the heads up though, at least I know I'm not alone!



Carol P
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On 1 Nov 2015, at 17:36, Rajmund  wrote:

Hello Carol,
Its a default folder, when I have first set up imap with the sense, no IOS, 
anything, it was there.

- Original Message -
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  
To: VI Phone Users  
Date: Sunday, November 1, 2015 5:28 pm
Subject: The important file listed in Gmail!

> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I meant to ask this for ages but haven't done so. I noticed quite early on 
> when using Gmail with the phone that there was an important folder created. 
> It seems to me that everything ends up in it, whether you delete items or 
> not. In fact, yesterday I deleted a lot of messages and they have just come 
> back again! Smiley
> 
> Now, please tell me, just what goes on here! Anyone got any good solutions, 
> apart from forgetting that the folder exists and simply ignoring it!
> 
> I look forward to hearing from you if you have a solution. I don't think you 
> can delete the folder, by the way, in case anyone comes up with that one. If 
> you know it can be done, of course I will be glad to hear about it!
> Carol P
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Re: An option if you want RCA or Toslink audio out from a new fourth generation Apple TV

[John Diakogeorgiou]

This looks like an interesting product. People who use dolby 5.1 may
have some problems with it though. Also, it is out of stock at Amazon
wih no stock date.

On 11/1/15, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Many are regretting Apple taking away the optical audio out port which was
> on previous Apple TV's. I just read an article which mentions a device
> which
> can extract the audio from HDMI and send it to a receiver or amplifier
> either via digital optical (Toshiba Link or "Toslink") or analogue RCA
> connection.
>
> It is my understanding that you can still connect an HDMI cable from the
> extracter to your TV as well and simply change modes to pass the HDMI
> signal
> through to your TV if you want to do so.
>
> Note that I don't own the device and cannot vouch for how well it works.
> Hopefully somebody will post a review if they decide to buy it and give it
> a
> try. I assume since it comes from Amazon that it would have a generous
> return policy should it not work as advertised.
>
>
>
> Below is the Amazon.com link for the device which costs $40 (I shortened it
> because it wrapped and probably would have not worked for some people):
>
> http://goo.gl/HkBZrU
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
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a fishing text re google accounts

[Marie Lyons]

I have also posted this to the diphone group.  I apologize for any 
duplification but thought there might be some on the other groups that aren’t 
on the other group.  Anyway my sister read this in Consumer Report.  Apparently 
someone is sending texts claiming there is some problem with your account.  
They have a link they want you to click on but delete the text instead.

Marie Lyons
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Re: iPhone 6 unfamiliar sound

[Kim Samco]

OMG!  That's it!  Thank ou!  Now, what does reachability mean?

Kim



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> On Nov 1, 2015, at 1:55 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> The only thing I can think of is reachability, when you double tap the home 
> button, not press it. You’re probably doing it and not realizing it.
> 
>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Kim Samco  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I'm still getting acquainted with the iPhone 6 and there is a sound that I 
>> haven't herd on any of my other iPhones.
>> 
>> As with many sounds it's hard to describe in an e-mail.  It's sort of 
>> between a swoosh and the sound a pterodactyl. might make  I looked in the 
>> sound settings and only saw the sounds that I'm familiar with.
>> 
>> Can anyone tell me what this sound means and if I can get rid of it.  
>> 
>> Oh...I haven't really been able to pinpoint exactly when it does it.  I 
>> guess sometimes when I close a folder and/or app.
>> 
>> THanks,
>> 
>> Kim
>> 
>> 
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Let's talk about imojies... specifically how to find them!!!

[Jen Barr]

I wish there was an easier way to go through the imojie list! There are so many 
by the time I find what I want... I forget! lol. I wish there was a way to 
search for them... like an edit box before the imoji keyboard! Sure, when I 
find the ones I want... they go into my frequently used category... but still! 
Also, is there a way to remove ones that are in the frequently used list? It's 
nice to have so many of them... but sheesh! lol. At least sighted people can 
just glance all at once... we have to spend an hour flicking through them. 
Ok... rant over. (smile) 

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Re: iPhone 6 unfamiliar sound

[Kellie]

Thank you for this exclamation as it answers the question of why my husbands 6S 
does this. LOL we were of been trying to figure that out.

Kellie and my lovable Lady J  
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
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> It scrolls the screen down, so it’s easier to operate with one hand. It 
> places all the stuff that’s at the top of the screen normally near the bottom 
> half.
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>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Kim Samco  wrote:
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>> OMG!  That's it!  Thank ou!  Now, what does reachability mean?
>> 
>> Kim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 1:55 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The only thing I can think of is reachability, when you double tap the home 
>>> button, not press it. You’re probably doing it and not realizing it.
>>> 
 On Nov 1, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Kim Samco  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I'm still getting acquainted with the iPhone 6 and there is a sound that I 
 haven't herd on any of my other iPhones.
 
 As with many sounds it's hard to describe in an e-mail.  It's sort of 
 between a swoosh and the sound a pterodactyl. might make  I looked in the 
 sound settings and only saw the sounds that I'm familiar with.
 
 Can anyone tell me what this sound means and if I can get rid of it.  
 
 Oh...I haven't really been able to pinpoint exactly when it does it.  I 
 guess sometimes when I close a folder and/or app.
 
 THanks,
 
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Re: using an iPhone only as a devicee

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm guessing this isn't wifi calling but rather Settings -> Phone -> 
Calls on Other Devices. This allows you to receive calls on other 
devices on the same network.


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Hello everyone,
I have a 5 s which I am using only as a device while i use my iPhone 6 as my 
phone.  I have Verizon as my carrier, but, this 5 s is an ATT phone.  When I 
receive a telephone call, both phones ring.  I assume this is some type of WiFi 
call, but, I can not make a call from the 5 s.  I realize that it has no 
service, but, I am able to answer calls with it.  I am able to make facetime 
calls with the 5 s.  Can anyone explain this to me?  When I try to make a call, 
it says I have no service.  I understand this, but, how is it that I can 
receive calls?  I am just curious.

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Re: using an iPhone only as a devicee

[Mary Otten]

OK, you are right. It is a separate setting. But when I want to know is this. 
Since your iPhone doesn't have to be anywhere near you when you make these 
calls, if you don't have Wi-Fi calling enabled on your iPhone, how on earth 
does your noncellular iPad mini make this call? Clearly, it is using Wi-Fi. How 
does that work?
Mary


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> I'm guessing this isn't wifi calling but rather Settings -> Phone -> Calls on 
> Other Devices. This allows you to receive calls on other devices on the same 
> network.
> 
>> On 11/01/2015 07:12 PM, candyrl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> I have a 5 s which I am using only as a device while i use my iPhone 6 as my 
>> phone.  I have Verizon as my carrier, but, this 5 s is an ATT phone.  When I 
>> receive a telephone call, both phones ring.  I assume this is some type of 
>> WiFi call, but, I can not make a call from the 5 s.  I realize that it has 
>> no service, but, I am able to answer calls with it.  I am able to make 
>> facetime calls with the 5 s.  Can anyone explain this to me?  When I try to 
>> make a call, it says I have no service.  I understand this, but, how is it 
>> that I can receive calls?  I am just curious.
>> 
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Re: Another way to enter contacts?

[Rob]

This is a PC program.
Its a small executable.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3387062/VcfGenerator.exe


On 11/1/2015 9:09 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:

Hello,
I am interested in this.  Is it an app in the app store?  I looked and 
could not find it.

Any help would be appreciated.

Chris




On Nov 1, 2015, at 9:49 PM, Rob > wrote:



Hi,
There may be many ways, Here is one.
Vcf Generator V1.0 by Erkan HACIOGLU
written by Erkan HACIOGLU
I create the .vcf file, and email it to my iPhone from my PC.


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Hello, just wondering if there's another way than on the phone 
itself to enter contacts? Can it be done within ITunes or another 
program? Alternatively, can I create some file and upload it? As I'm 
getting an iPhone in a few days, and my contacts are not 
transferrable because they're on an old phone, I have about eighty 
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Another way to enter contacts?

[Matthew Bullis]

Hello, just wondering if there's another way than on the phone itself to enter 
contacts? Can it be done within ITunes or another program? Alternatively, can I 
create some file and upload it? As I'm getting an iPhone in a few days, and my 
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Re: using an iPhone only as a devicee

[candyrlowe]

Alex, thanks so much for the explanation. I really appreciate your taking the 
time to explain it to me.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 8:05 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
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> Sounds like call forwarding is enabled. When you get a call on the 6, it 
> causes any other devices on your wifi network, signed into your iCloud 
> account, to ring as well. Macs, iPads, iPods, or Apple Watches would all do 
> the same thing if present and activated. That's also why you can't make calls 
> on the 5s; it can get forwarded calls from the 6, but can't initiate anything 
> on its own using the phone part. However, you should be able to use FaceTime 
> and call other Apple users or regular phone numbers and, as above, your 6 
> will be the actual caller, but your 5s will be sort of a fancy speakerphone. 
> Calling other Apple users is possible because that uses wifi only, not a cell 
> carrier.
>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 20:12, candyrl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> I have a 5 s which I am using only as a device while i use my iPhone 6 as my 
>> phone.  I have Verizon as my carrier, but, this 5 s is an ATT phone.  When I 
>> receive a telephone call, both phones ring.  I assume this is some type of 
>> WiFi call, but, I can not make a call from the 5 s.  I realize that it has 
>> no service, but, I am able to answer calls with it.  I am able to make 
>> facetime calls with the 5 s.  Can anyone explain this to me?  When I try to 
>> make a call, it says I have no service.  I understand this, but, how is it 
>> that I can receive calls?  I am just curious.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Another way to enter contacts?

[Chris Chaffin]

Hello,
I am interested in this.  Is it an app in the app store?  I looked and could 
not find it.
Any help would be appreciated.

Chris




> On Nov 1, 2015, at 9:49 PM, Rob  wrote:
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> Hi,
> There may be many ways, Here is one.
> Vcf Generator V1.0 by Erkan HACIOGLU
> written by Erkan HACIOGLU
> I create the .vcf file, and email it to my iPhone from my PC.
> 
> 
>> On 11/1/2015 8:20 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote:
>> Hello, just wondering if there's another way than on the phone itself to 
>> enter contacts? Can it be done within ITunes or another program? 
>> Alternatively, can I create some file and upload it? As I'm getting an 
>> iPhone in a few days, and my contacts are not transferrable because they're 
>> on an old phone, I have about eighty to enter.
>> Thanks,
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Re: using an iPhone only as a devicee

[Alex Hall]

How near is near? It works over wifi and bluetooth, letting your phone be quite 
far away--in another room, for instance--and it'll still work. My understanding 
of wifi calling is that it relies on your cell provider, but simply uses wifi 
to carry the signal instead of a cell tower. You still need a cellular account 
and a device from your carrier to do it.
> On Nov 1, 2015, at 23:11, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> OK, you are right. It is a separate setting. But when I want to know is this. 
> Since your iPhone doesn't have to be anywhere near you when you make these 
> calls, if you don't have Wi-Fi calling enabled on your iPhone, how on earth 
> does your noncellular iPad mini make this call? Clearly, it is using Wi-Fi. 
> How does that work?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm guessing this isn't wifi calling but rather Settings -> Phone -> Calls 
>> on Other Devices. This allows you to receive calls on other devices on the 
>> same network.
>> 
>>> On 11/01/2015 07:12 PM, candyrl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> I have a 5 s which I am using only as a device while i use my iPhone 6 as 
>>> my phone.  I have Verizon as my carrier, but, this 5 s is an ATT phone.  
>>> When I receive a telephone call, both phones ring.  I assume this is some 
>>> type of WiFi call, but, I can not make a call from the 5 s.  I realize that 
>>> it has no service, but, I am able to answer calls with it.  I am able to 
>>> make facetime calls with the 5 s.  Can anyone explain this to me?  When I 
>>> try to make a call, it says I have no service.  I understand this, but, how 
>>> is it that I can receive calls?  I am just curious.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: using an iPhone only as a devicee

[Mary Otten]

Nobody was questioning the need for having a cell account. I was only saying 
that I have iPhone with T-Mobile that has Wi-Fi calling. I have an iPad mini 
two which has no cellular capability. With the iPhone locked, I can make calls 
to landline's using an iPad mini over Wi-Fi. I can't see how that can be done 
if I didn't have Wi-Fi calling. Further, I recall seeing a T-Mobile promotion 
for Wi-Fi calling saying that if you left your Phone at home, say, but found 
yourself in a place where you had Wi-Fi connectivity and a device that you had 
okayed this calling from other devices through, you would be able to make calls 
on that device. So I suppose what I should do is leave my phone home and go to 
a nearby coffee shop where my iPad has the Wi-Fi network and see if I can make 
a call from there.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 8:17 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> How near is near? It works over wifi and bluetooth, letting your phone be 
> quite far away--in another room, for instance--and it'll still work. My 
> understanding of wifi calling is that it relies on your cell provider, but 
> simply uses wifi to carry the signal instead of a cell tower. You still need 
> a cellular account and a device from your carrier to do it.
>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 23:11, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> OK, you are right. It is a separate setting. But when I want to know is 
>> this. Since your iPhone doesn't have to be anywhere near you when you make 
>> these calls, if you don't have Wi-Fi calling enabled on your iPhone, how on 
>> earth does your noncellular iPad mini make this call? Clearly, it is using 
>> Wi-Fi. How does that work?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm guessing this isn't wifi calling but rather Settings -> Phone -> Calls 
>>> on Other Devices. This allows you to receive calls on other devices on the 
>>> same network.
>>> 
 On 11/01/2015 07:12 PM, candyrl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 I have a 5 s which I am using only as a device while i use my iPhone 6 as 
 my phone.  I have Verizon as my carrier, but, this 5 s is an ATT phone.  
 When I receive a telephone call, both phones ring.  I assume this is some 
 type of WiFi call, but, I can not make a call from the 5 s.  I realize 
 that it has no service, but, I am able to answer calls with it.  I am able 
 to make facetime calls with the 5 s.  Can anyone explain this to me?  When 
 I try to make a call, it says I have no service.  I understand this, but, 
 how is it that I can receive calls?  I am just curious.
 
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Brian Fischler]

Hi Jonathan and all,

Well put Jonathan. I bought this for the living room and if it only had optical 
it would go in the bedroom and the third gen would get prime living room as I 
bought this primarily for described video on Netflix so to say I am a little 
pissed at Netflix is an understatement. Could you imagine if Netflix had left 
close captioning out of the app the world would be livid but no mention 
anywhere in the mainstream about Netflix leaving described video out. overall I 
am not reading stellar reviews of this by the main stream and considering 
sighted people have tons of other options like Roku, Amazon Fire and others 
Apple really laid an egg so far with this. Seriously this 4th gen took them 
years to come up with? Seriously, it is shocking how much stuff they left out. 
At least I am getting to listen to the Mets radio feed for the World Series 
through the MLB app. So that is something. 
> On Nov 1, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> As Jonathan pointed out, Siri is not available everywhere. Furthermore, again 
> based on mainstream reviews, it is apparent that the universal Siri search is 
> not all that it's cracked up to be.  sometimes it is a big fat bust. And in 
> such cases, you would want another way of telling the device what it was you 
> wanted. And if you paid a premium for this device, you would probably not 
> like it that you were having to hunt and peck around a great big long row of 
> letters to get that search job done. Apple charges more than everybody else. 
> And people expect to get Quality in return. That includes well-thought-out 
> design. Software, not just nice-looking hardware. You don't buy potential, 
> unless it's known to be an early edition, and you're getting a discount. But 
> that's not happening here. I am looking forward to see how this AppleTV 
> develops. I hope it does great, because they are the only one that is really 
> accessible. But not yet. I'm not giving them my money until they give me the 
> product I should get for my money.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Daniel,
>> 
>> They should leave out Bluetooth keyboard support because they want people to 
>> use SIRI when it appears in some countries SIRI on the Apple TV is not 
>> available, example, New Zealand. I don't know about Australia and Europe, 
>> but if they have Bluetooth support and they support all sorts of third-party 
>> game controllers not having support for Bluetooth keyboards makes little 
>> sense to me.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Daniel Miller
>> Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 8:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV
>> 
>> Plus, they’re trying to push the universal search experience with Siri, so I 
>> can kind of understand why they didn’t add it, even though yes, it is rather 
>> annoying, I’m not saying it isn’t. But from Apple’s point of view, they want 
>> people to use the Siri functionality more. And also, they added a recent 
>> keyboard that contains all the email addresses and account names you’ve 
>> typed before, so to be fair, you’d only need to enter your passwords with 
>> the annoying keyboard.
>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 10:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That would match Jonathan's experience when he tried to pair a Bluetooth 
>>> keyboard with his Apple TV foruth gen in his Jonathan at Large Podcast. It 
>>> really appears that Apple has not added Bluetooth keyboard support. Let's 
>>> all write to accessibil...@apple.com and request they fix this, after all, 
>>> I don't see how the hardware would not support it, it should just be a 
>>> matter of a software update.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Larry Smith
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 3:27 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV
>>> 
>>> I have the new apple TV. I have tried three different bluetooth keyboards. 
>>> Neither keyboard would pair. As a matter of fact, the apple TV didn’t 
>>> appear to even recognize that I was trying to pair a device. 
 On Oct 31, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried connecting 
 it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your results 
 been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on the 
 fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult, because 
 they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the remote. 
 It is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers. 
 And 

Re: Another way to enter contacts?

[Matthew Bullis]

OK, thanks. My next question then is, if I have the name followed by a number, 
how do I tell the iPhone that this is the way it should be entered? I haven't 
found a definitive answer online about how this is determined.
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Re: Another way to enter contacts?

[Chris Chaffin]

Thank you for the file.  I have played with it, and have a couple of questions.
Since there is only one edit field for the name, I am assuming that there is no 
way of making it where it will fill the first name edit field in contacts, then 
the second.  Or, where it will fill the company name edit field?

Thanks,

Chris




> On Nov 1, 2015, at 11:11 PM, Rob  wrote:
> 
> This is a PC program.
> Its a small executable.
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3387062/VcfGenerator.exe
> 
> 
>> On 11/1/2015 9:09 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I am interested in this.  Is it an app in the app store?  I looked and could 
>> not find it.
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 9:49 PM, Rob  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> There may be many ways, Here is one.
>>> Vcf Generator V1.0 by Erkan HACIOGLU
>>> written by Erkan HACIOGLU
>>> I create the .vcf file, and email it to my iPhone from my PC.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 11/1/2015 8:20 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote:
 Hello, just wondering if there's another way than on the phone itself to 
 enter contacts? Can it be done within ITunes or another program? 
 Alternatively, can I create some file and upload it? As I'm getting an 
 iPhone in a few days, and my contacts are not transferrable because 
 they're on an old phone, I have about eighty to enter.
 Thanks,
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using an iPhone only as a devicee

[candyrlowe]

Hello everyone,
I have a 5 s which I am using only as a device while i use my iPhone 6 as my 
phone.  I have Verizon as my carrier, but, this 5 s is an ATT phone.  When I 
receive a telephone call, both phones ring.  I assume this is some type of WiFi 
call, but, I can not make a call from the 5 s.  I realize that it has no 
service, but, I am able to answer calls with it.  I am able to make facetime 
calls with the 5 s.  Can anyone explain this to me?  When I try to make a call, 
it says I have no service.  I understand this, but, how is it that I can 
receive calls?  I am just curious.  

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Re: iPhone 6 unfamiliar sound

[Daniel Miller]

You’re welcome. You can turn the setting off in accessibility if it’ll bother 
you, or if it’s a setting you don’t think you’ll ever use.

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 7:39 PM, Kellie  wrote:
> 
> Thank you for this exclamation as it answers the question of why my husbands 
> 6S does this. LOL we were of been trying to figure that out.
> 
> Kellie and my lovable Lady J  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> It scrolls the screen down, so it’s easier to operate with one hand. It 
>> places all the stuff that’s at the top of the screen normally near the 
>> bottom half.
>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Kim Samco  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OMG!  That's it!  Thank ou!  Now, what does reachability mean?
>>> 
>>> Kim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 1, 2015, at 1:55 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
 
 The only thing I can think of is reachability, when you double tap the 
 home button, not press it. You’re probably doing it and not realizing it.
 
> On Nov 1, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Kim Samco  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm still getting acquainted with the iPhone 6 and there is a sound that 
> I haven't herd on any of my other iPhones.
> 
> As with many sounds it's hard to describe in an e-mail.  It's sort of 
> between a swoosh and the sound a pterodactyl. might make  I looked in the 
> sound settings and only saw the sounds that I'm familiar with.
> 
> Can anyone tell me what this sound means and if I can get rid of it.  
> 
> Oh...I haven't really been able to pinpoint exactly when it does it.  I 
> guess sometimes when I close a folder and/or app.
> 
> THanks,
> 
> Kim
> 
> 
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Re: using an iPhone only as a devicee

[Alex Hall]

Sounds like call forwarding is enabled. When you get a call on the 6, it causes 
any other devices on your wifi network, signed into your iCloud account, to 
ring as well. Macs, iPads, iPods, or Apple Watches would all do the same thing 
if present and activated. That's also why you can't make calls on the 5s; it 
can get forwarded calls from the 6, but can't initiate anything on its own 
using the phone part. However, you should be able to use FaceTime and call 
other Apple users or regular phone numbers and, as above, your 6 will be the 
actual caller, but your 5s will be sort of a fancy speakerphone. Calling other 
Apple users is possible because that uses wifi only, not a cell carrier.
> On Nov 1, 2015, at 20:12, candyrl...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> I have a 5 s which I am using only as a device while i use my iPhone 6 as my 
> phone.  I have Verizon as my carrier, but, this 5 s is an ATT phone.  When I 
> receive a telephone call, both phones ring.  I assume this is some type of 
> WiFi call, but, I can not make a call from the 5 s.  I realize that it has no 
> service, but, I am able to answer calls with it.  I am able to make facetime 
> calls with the 5 s.  Can anyone explain this to me?  When I try to make a 
> call, it says I have no service.  I understand this, but, how is it that I 
> can receive calls?  I am just curious.  
> 
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Re: using an iPhone only as a devicee

[Mary Otten]

Also, depending on who your cell carrier is and how their Wi-Fi calling works, 
and if you have it set up, and set up to allow other devices to do it, you 
might actually be able to make calls on your old 5S. For instance, the other 
day I made a call using my iPad mini to a regular landline to a friend of mine 
who lives back east. My carrier is T-Mobile, and I have Wi-Fi calling set up. 
But I definitely made the call by telling Siri to call my friends phone number 
on my iPad mini, and it went through fine using Wi-Fi calling.
Mary


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> On Nov 1, 2015, at 6:05 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like call forwarding is enabled. When you get a call on the 6, it 
> causes any other devices on your wifi network, signed into your iCloud 
> account, to ring as well. Macs, iPads, iPods, or Apple Watches would all do 
> the same thing if present and activated. That's also why you can't make calls 
> on the 5s; it can get forwarded calls from the 6, but can't initiate anything 
> on its own using the phone part. However, you should be able to use FaceTime 
> and call other Apple users or regular phone numbers and, as above, your 6 
> will be the actual caller, but your 5s will be sort of a fancy speakerphone. 
> Calling other Apple users is possible because that uses wifi only, not a cell 
> carrier.
>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 20:12, candyrl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> I have a 5 s which I am using only as a device while i use my iPhone 6 as my 
>> phone.  I have Verizon as my carrier, but, this 5 s is an ATT phone.  When I 
>> receive a telephone call, both phones ring.  I assume this is some type of 
>> WiFi call, but, I can not make a call from the 5 s.  I realize that it has 
>> no service, but, I am able to answer calls with it.  I am able to make 
>> facetime calls with the 5 s.  Can anyone explain this to me?  When I try to 
>> make a call, it says I have no service.  I understand this, but, how is it 
>> that I can receive calls?  I am just curious.  
>> 
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Re: Another way to enter contacts?

[Rob]

Hi,
There may be many ways, Here is one.
Vcf Generator V1.0 by Erkan HACIOGLU
written by Erkan HACIOGLU
I create the .vcf file, and email it to my iPhone from my PC.


On 11/1/2015 8:20 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote:
Hello, just wondering if there's another way than on the phone itself 
to enter contacts? Can it be done within ITunes or another program? 
Alternatively, can I create some file and upload it? As I'm getting an 
iPhone in a few days, and my contacts are not transferrable because 
they're on an old phone, I have about eighty to enter.

Thanks,
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Mary Otten]

Well, I have seen a couple of reviews by sighted people in the mainstream press 
commenting on how difficult it is to use the on-screen keyboard with its new 
layout, where the letters are in a long long row. So, I suspect they will be 
doing something, whether that is to have Bluetooth keyboard support or make the 
remote app for the watch and the iPhone work, I don't know. But the way it is 
now is not satisfactory even for mainstream cited reviewer's. So something will 
happen

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 10:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> It is my understanding that you can only have a maximum of 3 
> controllers/remotes connected to the Apple TV at any time. That means 
> especially in families with kids where playing games may be an important part 
> of having an Apple TV, it is my guess that these 3 controllers would be the 
> remote that comes with the Apple TV and then maybe a couple of third-party 
> game controllers.
> While this may not be an accessibility feature in the strict sense, I really 
> wonder how many sighted people actually have and would use a Bluetooth 
> keyboard on an Apple TV. I do of course know people who use a keyboard with 
> an iPad at home, but I don't think I know a single sighted iPhone user who 
> uses a Bluetooth keyboard with an iPhone. Sighted users get to be quite fast 
> at typing on the virtual keyboard especially now with predictive typing and I 
> am afraid we may project our needs to the vast majority of users who would 
> never even consider that it might be easier to type on a Bluetooth keyboard. 
> I am sure Apple will make improvements to the on-screen typing experience and 
> the fact is that once one has set up their accounts with user names and 
> passwords, there probably is not that much typing required. I know how my 
> wife uses our current Apple TV and she rarely types anything, when she is 
> looking for something on Netflix she just browses the categories and even if 
> she types, she can see the results popping up as she types and often she 
> finds what she wants after typing 4 or 5 letters.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> chris
> Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 9:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV
> 
> No it's not an accessibility thing as even sighted consumers would use a 
> bluetooth keyboard for typing just like they would on an iOS device.
> 
>> On 01/11/2015 16:49, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>> I'm not sure anyone needs to calm down. No one seems to upset over 
>> this to me.
>> 
>> I'm not so sure it's coming, since I haven't seen an official 
>> announcement from Apple, but it definitely won't be coming if Apple 
>> doesn't know it's being asked for.
>> 
>> I don't see this as an accessibility issue though, so I'd be more 
>> inclined to ask for it using Apple's normal feedback channels.
>> 
>>> On 11/01/2015 10:33 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> I’m sure it’s coming, everyone just calm down. lol
>>> 
 On Nov 1, 2015, at 10:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 That would match Jonathan's experience when he tried to pair a 
 Bluetooth keyboard with his Apple TV foruth gen in his Jonathan at 
 Large Podcast. It really appears that Apple has not added Bluetooth 
 keyboard support. Let's all write to accessibil...@apple.com and 
 request they fix this, after all, I don't see how the hardware would 
 not support it, it should just be a matter of a software update.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Larry Smith
 Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 3:27 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV
 
 I have the new apple TV. I have tried three different bluetooth 
 keyboards. Neither keyboard would pair. As a matter of fact, the 
 apple TV didn’t appear to even recognize that I was trying to pair a 
 device.
> On Oct 31, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried 
> connecting it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what 
> have your results been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other 
> today commenting on the fact that typing stuff on the screen is now 
> much more difficult, because they don't have the grid that they 
> used to have for use with the remote. It is apparently one long 
> line of letters and one long line of numbers. And the author was 
> complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt. They did 
> not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think 
> that that might not be an option. So, 

Re: iPhone 6 unfamiliar sound

[Daniel Miller]

The only thing I can think of is reachability, when you double tap the home 
button, not press it. You’re probably doing it and not realizing it.

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Kim Samco  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm still getting acquainted with the iPhone 6 and there is a sound that I 
> haven't herd on any of my other iPhones.
> 
> As with many sounds it's hard to describe in an e-mail.  It's sort of between 
> a swoosh and the sound a pterodactyl. might make  I looked in the sound 
> settings and only saw the sounds that I'm familiar with.
> 
> Can anyone tell me what this sound means and if I can get rid of it.  
> 
> Oh...I haven't really been able to pinpoint exactly when it does it.  I guess 
> sometimes when I close a folder and/or app.
> 
> THanks,
> 
> Kim
> 
> 
> 
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RE: iPhone 6 unfamiliar sound

[kimmie parutu]

Oh yes I have that, but I wouldn't worry about it. I've got a 6 as well, and it 
does that.  I don't think it's going to cause too much strife. Hope not anyway!

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Kim Samco
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hello,

I'm still getting acquainted with the iPhone 6 and there is a sound that I 
haven't herd on any of my other iPhones.

As with many sounds it's hard to describe in an e-mail.  It's sort of between a 
swoosh and the sound a pterodactyl. might make  I looked in the sound settings 
and only saw the sounds that I'm familiar with.

Can anyone tell me what this sound means and if I can get rid of it.  

Oh...I haven't really been able to pinpoint exactly when it does it.  I guess 
sometimes when I close a folder and/or app.

THanks,

Kim



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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Brian Fischler]

I think as more developers get a hold of the AppleTV it will get better, but 
the fact that you cannot pair a bluetooth keyboard, that Netflix left described 
video out as a option, and that typing is dreadful I would not run out and buy 
a AppleTv yet. Very disappointed in it so far. 
> On Nov 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, chris  wrote:
> 
> Ar ok, just got this message so please disregard my query.
> 
> On 01/11/2015 12:22, Gadget Girl wrote:
>> Hello everyone.  I was in the Apple Store yesterday and was told by a 
>> manager that an update to the software is coming which will enable the Apple 
>> bluetooth keyboard and the new Apple magic keyboard to work with the new 
>> Apple TV.  He said the update should be out in days.  FYI.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Gadget Girl
>> Sent from my Apple gadget and dictated using Siri.
>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 1:48 AM, chris  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes so I encourage anyone who relies on a bluetooth keyboard to think twice 
>>> before purchasing the new Apple TV. At least the third generation will be 
>>> around for the forseeable future.
>>> 
 On 01/11/2015 03:46, Mary Otten wrote:
 Oh boy! That sounds like a big step back. Hopefully, they will fix this in 
 the coming months.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
> 
> I've tried and it doesn't work. Unfortunately as you say the new
> keyboard layout is even worse than the old one and even though the TV
> has Siri you don't appear to be able to use dictation.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ben.
> 
>> On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried 
>> connecting
>> it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your results
>> been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on the
>> fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult, because
>> they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the remote. 
>> It
>> is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers. And 
>> the
>> author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt. They 
>> did
>> not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think that 
>> that
>> might not be an option. So, what say you?
>> 
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Re: anyone else having trouble with using ApplePay on the apple store app?

[Daniel Miller]

I’m not sure either. I can use it just fine with Bank of America.

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 9:52 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  wrote:
> 
> That is strange. I am not sure what is causing your problem.
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
> On Nov 1, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Amy Ruell  > wrote:
> 
>> I called my bank, there are no problems there. They have me registered with 
>> Apple Pay and see no difficulties. Still a maddening mystery!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 7:57 AM, John Diakogeorgiou > > wrote:
>> 
>>> I am using Huntington. I called Apple and gave them my info over the phone.
>>> 
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 4:28 AM, Amy Ruell >> > wrote:
>>> 
 You mean the way Apple Pay reports the Apple Pay name? What bank are you 
 using?
 
  Was there any way to resolve this? Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 31, 2015, at 6:32 PM, John Diakogeorgiou > wrote:
 
> I had the same problem. My bank would not accept them because of the way 
> they report their name. This is after I confirmed the gtransaction 
> several times.
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
> On Oct 31, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Amy Ruel  > wrote:
> 
>> Subject line says it all. I have had 4 support calls with Apple about 
>> this to no avail. Have checked and my settings and account information 
>> are all correct in iTunes and Wallet and ApplePay app. I have been able 
>> to successfully pay with ApplePay in the Apple store, can purchase using 
>> “other payment options” within the Apple store app, and have checked 
>> online to make sure that my Apple ID is correct. I have re-set network 
>> settings twice, verified and re-entered my billing address multiple 
>> times, and have tried to order using cellular data. I have deleted and 
>> re-installed the Apple store app.
>> When I attempt to purchase using touch id, I get “error image”, which 
>> points to the billing address. This has also been verified by a sighted 
>> person. The only thing I note is that my ship to name is incorrect, 
>> though it is correct in my Wallet app.
>> Any additional suggestions?
>> Thanks.
>> Amy
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RE: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It is my understanding that you can only have a maximum of 3 
controllers/remotes connected to the Apple TV at any time. That means 
especially in families with kids where playing games may be an important part 
of having an Apple TV, it is my guess that these 3 controllers would be the 
remote that comes with the Apple TV and then maybe a couple of third-party game 
controllers.
While this may not be an accessibility feature in the strict sense, I really 
wonder how many sighted people actually have and would use a Bluetooth keyboard 
on an Apple TV. I do of course know people who use a keyboard with an iPad at 
home, but I don't think I know a single sighted iPhone user who uses a 
Bluetooth keyboard with an iPhone. Sighted users get to be quite fast at typing 
on the virtual keyboard especially now with predictive typing and I am afraid 
we may project our needs to the vast majority of users who would never even 
consider that it might be easier to type on a Bluetooth keyboard. I am sure 
Apple will make improvements to the on-screen typing experience and the fact is 
that once one has set up their accounts with user names and passwords, there 
probably is not that much typing required. I know how my wife uses our current 
Apple TV and she rarely types anything, when she is looking for something on 
Netflix she just browses the categories and even if she types, she can see the 
results popping up as she types and often she finds what she wants after typing 
4 or 5 letters.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

No it's not an accessibility thing as even sighted consumers would use a 
bluetooth keyboard for typing just like they would on an iOS device.

On 01/11/2015 16:49, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> I'm not sure anyone needs to calm down. No one seems to upset over 
> this to me.
>
> I'm not so sure it's coming, since I haven't seen an official 
> announcement from Apple, but it definitely won't be coming if Apple 
> doesn't know it's being asked for.
>
> I don't see this as an accessibility issue though, so I'd be more 
> inclined to ask for it using Apple's normal feedback channels.
>
> On 11/01/2015 10:33 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> I’m sure it’s coming, everyone just calm down. lol
>>
>>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 10:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>
>>> That would match Jonathan's experience when he tried to pair a 
>>> Bluetooth keyboard with his Apple TV foruth gen in his Jonathan at 
>>> Large Podcast. It really appears that Apple has not added Bluetooth 
>>> keyboard support. Let's all write to accessibil...@apple.com and 
>>> request they fix this, after all, I don't see how the hardware would 
>>> not support it, it should just be a matter of a software update.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Larry Smith
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 3:27 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV
>>>
>>> I have the new apple TV. I have tried three different bluetooth 
>>> keyboards. Neither keyboard would pair. As a matter of fact, the 
>>> apple TV didn’t appear to even recognize that I was trying to pair a 
>>> device.
 On Oct 31, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

 For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried 
 connecting it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what 
 have your results been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other 
 today commenting on the fact that typing stuff on the screen is now 
 much more difficult, because they don't have the grid that they 
 used to have for use with the remote. It is apparently one long 
 line of letters and one long line of numbers. And the author was 
 complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt. They did 
 not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think 
 that that might not be an option. So, what say you?

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RE: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Well said, as usual, Jonathan. I think for those with a third-party Apple TV 
waiting a bit is the way to go or get the fourth gen Apple TV and enjoy it for 
what it offers and use it side by side with the third gen. But for many like me 
who never upgraded from the second gen to the third gen I think getting the new 
Apple TV is a no-brainer. The second gen Apple TV doesn’t support Netflix audio 
descriptions anyways and there is no Youtube app any more so even though the 
new Apple TV needs some major feature additions, I think it’s not much of a 
step back compared to the second gen with maybe the exception of Bluetooth 
keyboards, but maybe as somebody pointed out, this really is coming very soon 
although if it were coming within days or a week, why ship them without. 
Somehow I think Apple is not going to push an update before many customers have 
even received their unit.

Despite everything I read and hear from the early reviews, I am excited that 
mine has also shipped now and the UPS tracking information says it will be 
delivered next Friday so maybe it’s even going to be Thursday and definitely 
it’s earlier than November 11 to 13 which is what my order said originally.

I am really surprised the there is no native Podcast app or that the remote app 
isn’t working with the Apple TV. I just looked it up on the App Store and it 
says:

 

Note: Remote is only compatible with Apple TV (3rd generation or earlier)

 

It shows the app was last updatedin April, so hopefully we’ll see an update to 
that app very soon which will add support for the fourth gen Apple TV. It also 
appears that the reviews for the Remote app are dismal, the latest version gets 
2 Stars. It’s interesting how Apple makes some stuff and has some services 
which work so well and are so easy to use and other products and services they 
just can’t seem to get right.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

 

Hi Brian and all, I agree with you. The term half baked Apples comes to mind at 
the moment. It has huge potential, and I'm sure it is going to be really good, 
but to me it's not even feeling like a 1.0 product right now. On the third gen, 
we used to use the Radio app, for listening to Internet radio stations 
including the one I manage, Mushroom FM. Apple hasn't included it with this 
release, and there's no equivalent app in the App Store that I've been able to 
find.

We listen to a lot of podcasts on the Apple TV. But Apple hasn't even done a 
version of its own Podcasts app, even though there was one for the third 
generation.

For both of these issues, Airplay is a work-around, but then you're involving 
another device, which in my view is a step backwards. Hopefully Downcast or 
Overcast will come to the platform soon for Podcasts, and TuneIn Radio would be 
great for Mushroom FM and similar stations.

When, in the podcast, it became clear to me that Bluetooth keyboard support is 
not in the software right now, I consoled myself by thinking that I could use 
the excellent Remote app for iOS and Watch OS, and control the TV that way. But 
you can't, Apple's own Remote app doesn't yet work with Apple's own brand new 
Apple TV.

It's also curious to me that despite the great storage and fast chip, you get 
no choice of voice in VO, unless you change your region.

On the third-party side, we've lost Netflix with audio description, and Hulu 
isn't accessible.

And as Sieghard has said in this thread and I pointed out in my podcast, Siri 
isn't supported here in New Zealand, even though New Zealand English is a 
choice in iOS.

I think all these things may well be addressed, but if you have a functional 
third generation unit and enjoy it for some of these functions, you might want 
to hang on a bit. For those who think it's fun to be on the cutting edge, this 
product shows a lot of promise and I'm sure it's going to get very good over 
time.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 2/11/2015, at 3:54 AM, Brian Fischler  > wrote:

 

I think as more developers get a hold of the AppleTV it will get better, but 
the fact that you cannot pair a bluetooth keyboard, that Netflix left described 
video out as a option, and that typing is dreadful I would not run out and buy 
a AppleTv yet. Very disappointed in it so far. 



On Nov 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, chris  > wrote:

Ar ok, just got this message so please disregard my query.

On 01/11/2015 12:22, Gadget Girl wrote:



Hello everyone.  I was in the Apple Store yesterday and was told by a manager 
that an update to the software is coming which will enable the Apple bluetooth 
keyboard 

Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[John Diakogeorgiou]

That can be said of all companies. I feel that people sometimes expect too much 
from Apple.

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 1:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Well said, as usual, Jonathan. I think for those with a third-party Apple TV 
> waiting a bit is the way to go or get the fourth gen Apple TV and enjoy it 
> for what it offers and use it side by side with the third gen. But for many 
> like me who never upgraded from the second gen to the third gen I think 
> getting the new Apple TV is a no-brainer. The second gen Apple TV doesn’t 
> support Netflix audio descriptions anyways and there is no Youtube app any 
> more so even though the new Apple TV needs some major feature additions, I 
> think it’s not much of a step back compared to the second gen with maybe the 
> exception of Bluetooth keyboards, but maybe as somebody pointed out, this 
> really is coming very soon although if it were coming within days or a week, 
> why ship them without. Somehow I think Apple is not going to push an update 
> before many customers have even received their unit.
> Despite everything I read and hear from the early reviews, I am excited that 
> mine has also shipped now and the UPS tracking information says it will be 
> delivered next Friday so maybe it’s even going to be Thursday and definitely 
> it’s earlier than November 11 to 13 which is what my order said originally.
> I am really surprised the there is no native Podcast app or that the remote 
> app isn’t working with the Apple TV. I just looked it up on the App Store and 
> it says:
>  
> Note: Remote is only compatible with Apple TV (3rd generation or earlier)
>  
> It shows the app was last updatedin April, so hopefully we’ll see an update 
> to that app very soon which will add support for the fourth gen Apple TV. It 
> also appears that the reviews for the Remote app are dismal, the latest 
> version gets 2 Stars. It’s interesting how Apple makes some stuff and has 
> some services which work so well and are so easy to use and other products 
> and services they just can’t seem to get right.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jonathan Mosen
> Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 9:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV
>  
> Hi Brian and all, I agree with you. The term half baked Apples comes to mind 
> at the moment. It has huge potential, and I'm sure it is going to be really 
> good, but to me it's not even feeling like a 1.0 product right now. On the 
> third gen, we used to use the Radio app, for listening to Internet radio 
> stations including the one I manage, Mushroom FM. Apple hasn't included it 
> with this release, and there's no equivalent app in the App Store that I've 
> been able to find.
> We listen to a lot of podcasts on the Apple TV. But Apple hasn't even done a 
> version of its own Podcasts app, even though there was one for the third 
> generation.
> For both of these issues, Airplay is a work-around, but then you're involving 
> another device, which in my view is a step backwards. Hopefully Downcast or 
> Overcast will come to the platform soon for Podcasts, and TuneIn Radio would 
> be great for Mushroom FM and similar stations.
> When, in the podcast, it became clear to me that Bluetooth keyboard support 
> is not in the software right now, I consoled myself by thinking that I could 
> use the excellent Remote app for iOS and Watch OS, and control the TV that 
> way. But you can't, Apple's own Remote app doesn't yet work with Apple's own 
> brand new Apple TV.
> It's also curious to me that despite the great storage and fast chip, you get 
> no choice of voice in VO, unless you change your region.
> On the third-party side, we've lost Netflix with audio description, and Hulu 
> isn't accessible.
> And as Sieghard has said in this thread and I pointed out in my podcast, Siri 
> isn't supported here in New Zealand, even though New Zealand English is a 
> choice in iOS.
> I think all these things may well be addressed, but if you have a functional 
> third generation unit and enjoy it for some of these functions, you might 
> want to hang on a bit. For those who think it's fun to be on the cutting 
> edge, this product shows a lot of promise and I'm sure it's going to get very 
> good over time.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
>  
> On 2/11/2015, at 3:54 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>  
> I think as more developers get a hold of the AppleTV it will get better, but 
> the fact that you cannot pair a bluetooth keyboard, that Netflix left 
> described video out as a option, and that typing is dreadful I would not run 
> out and buy a AppleTv yet. Very disappointed in it so far. 
> 
> On Nov 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, chris  wrote:
> 
> Ar ok, just 

iPhone 6 unfamiliar sound

[Kim Samco]

Hello,

I'm still getting acquainted with the iPhone 6 and there is a sound that I 
haven't herd on any of my other iPhones.

As with many sounds it's hard to describe in an e-mail.  It's sort of between a 
swoosh and the sound a pterodactyl. might make  I looked in the sound settings 
and only saw the sounds that I'm familiar with.

Can anyone tell me what this sound means and if I can get rid of it.  

Oh...I haven't really been able to pinpoint exactly when it does it.  I guess 
sometimes when I close a folder and/or app.

THanks,

Kim



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Re: The important file listed in Gmail!

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Thanks Connie.

It's a bit of a minefield and I'm just going to leave well alone for the 
moment, especially as Chris has mentioned that they're only the labels 
in Important and not the messages themselves, so (I guess) not taking up 
extra room etc.


I don't want this to become "off topic", because I raised it as I 
thought it had direct use on the iPhone and not on other devices; but 
since I've now learned this is not the case, I think I should cease any 
further comments on the subject here. 


Carol P

On 01/11/2015 18:36, Connie Mohney wrote:

Hello Christopher and Carol,
In gmail, there are options such as delete, mark read, flag archive delete 
and more.  I have not explored the more button yet.  But when I click on 
archive, all the archived messages go into the important folder.  As 
Christopher said other messages go in there as well.  So, I'm going to have to 
explore the more button and see if there is a way to just have archived 
messages go in there.  Hope this helps.
Connie ,

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 1:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The important file listed in Gmail!

As with all Gmail folders, this is just a label added to your messages.
It's not an additional copy of your message.

Gmail is flagging the messages it thinks is important to you based on who it's 
from, what it says and how you've handled similar messages in the past. I 
Googled this and there is a ton of information out there on how to remove this 
or change what Gmail considers is important.

Personally, I plan on looking into this at some time because I'm always looking 
for a more efficient way to handle my email, but I haven't done this yet, so 
for now, I just ignore the Important folder.

On 11/01/2015 11:28 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone wrote:

Hi all,

I meant to ask this for ages but haven't done so. I noticed quite
early on when using Gmail with the phone that there was an important
folder created. It seems to me that everything ends up in it, whether
you delete items or not. In fact, yesterday I deleted a lot of
messages and they have just come back again! Smiley

Now, please tell me, just what goes on here! Anyone got any good solutions, 
apart from forgetting that the folder exists and simply ignoring it!

I look forward to hearing from you if you have a solution. I don't think you 
can delete the folder, by the way, in case anyone comes up with that one. If 
you know it can be done, of course I will be glad to hear about it!
   Carol P
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An option if you want RCA or Toslink audio out from a new fourth generation Apple TV

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello,

 

Many are regretting Apple taking away the optical audio out port which was
on previous Apple TV's. I just read an article which mentions a device which
can extract the audio from HDMI and send it to a receiver or amplifier
either via digital optical (Toshiba Link or "Toslink") or analogue RCA
connection.

It is my understanding that you can still connect an HDMI cable from the
extracter to your TV as well and simply change modes to pass the HDMI signal
through to your TV if you want to do so.

Note that I don't own the device and cannot vouch for how well it works.
Hopefully somebody will post a review if they decide to buy it and give it a
try. I assume since it comes from Amazon that it would have a generous
return policy should it not work as advertised.

 

Below is the Amazon.com link for the device which costs $40 (I shortened it
because it wrapped and probably would have not worked for some people):

http://goo.gl/HkBZrU

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Mary Otten]

As Jonathan pointed out, Siri is not available everywhere. Furthermore, again 
based on mainstream reviews, it is apparent that the universal Siri search is 
not all that it's cracked up to be.  sometimes it is a big fat bust. And in 
such cases, you would want another way of telling the device what it was you 
wanted. And if you paid a premium for this device, you would probably not like 
it that you were having to hunt and peck around a great big long row of letters 
to get that search job done. Apple charges more than everybody else. And people 
expect to get Quality in return. That includes well-thought-out design. 
Software, not just nice-looking hardware. You don't buy potential, unless it's 
known to be an early edition, and you're getting a discount. But that's not 
happening here. I am looking forward to see how this AppleTV develops. I hope 
it does great, because they are the only one that is really accessible. But not 
yet. I'm not giving them my money until they give me the product I should get 
for my money.

Mary


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> On Nov 1, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Daniel,
> 
> They should leave out Bluetooth keyboard support because they want people to 
> use SIRI when it appears in some countries SIRI on the Apple TV is not 
> available, example, New Zealand. I don't know about Australia and Europe, but 
> if they have Bluetooth support and they support all sorts of third-party game 
> controllers not having support for Bluetooth keyboards makes little sense to 
> me.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Daniel Miller
> Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 8:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV
> 
> Plus, they’re trying to push the universal search experience with Siri, so I 
> can kind of understand why they didn’t add it, even though yes, it is rather 
> annoying, I’m not saying it isn’t. But from Apple’s point of view, they want 
> people to use the Siri functionality more. And also, they added a recent 
> keyboard that contains all the email addresses and account names you’ve typed 
> before, so to be fair, you’d only need to enter your passwords with the 
> annoying keyboard.
> 
>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 10:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> That would match Jonathan's experience when he tried to pair a Bluetooth 
>> keyboard with his Apple TV foruth gen in his Jonathan at Large Podcast. It 
>> really appears that Apple has not added Bluetooth keyboard support. Let's 
>> all write to accessibil...@apple.com and request they fix this, after all, I 
>> don't see how the hardware would not support it, it should just be a matter 
>> of a software update.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Larry Smith
>> Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 3:27 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV
>> 
>> I have the new apple TV. I have tried three different bluetooth keyboards. 
>> Neither keyboard would pair. As a matter of fact, the apple TV didn’t appear 
>> to even recognize that I was trying to pair a device. 
>>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried connecting 
>>> it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your results 
>>> been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on the 
>>> fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult, because 
>>> they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the remote. It 
>>> is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers. And 
>>> the author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt. They 
>>> did not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think that 
>>> that might not be an option. So, what say you?
>>> 
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A Little on Cisco Routers

[M. Taylor]

Hello Casey,

The model of the router is, for the most part, irrelevant, these days as they 
change so frequently.

What is important is the functionality you seek.  For example, you may simply 
want a basic WiFi router which can cost as little as $25.  On the other hand, 
you may choose to purchase a dual band router which can cost as much as $200.  
I am basing these estimates on Best Buy as of 2 weeks ago, here in southern 
California.  

So, it comes down to what you want and how much you can afford.  

The good news is the following:

1.
The interface to all Cisco routers can be accessed through your preferred web 
browser and are completely VoiceOver and Jaws for Windows accessible.  After 
attaching the router to any computer, via Ethernet cable, from within your 
browser go to http://192.168.1.1 in order to bring up the router's interface.

2.
While the routers ship with an included setup CD, because of the built-in 
server, there really is no need to install it on your computer.

3.
Their customer service is among the best I have ever used.  Virtually all of 
their reps will provide comprehensive support, 24 hours a day.  This is no 
doubt the result of the staggering lawsuit, lost by Linksys, many years ago.

4.
As with the base router, the extenders come in varying flavors, as well.  One 
model will only boost one signal while another model provides dual signal 
boost.  

5.
Once the extender is configured, it is virtually invisible to all devices in 
the area, save the base router.

6.
Should you purchase a Cisco router, I strongly urge you to immediately register 
the device with Cisco and contact their customer service for any assistance.  
They really will take good care of you.  

Oh, one more thing, you must connect the router and/or the extender to a 
computer (using an Ethernet cable) in order to configure it for uce, via the 
web browser.

Good Luck,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Casey
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 6:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "OFF topic, slightly

Hi do you happen to know the model number of your router?
Also how easy is the router to configure with a screen reader and does it have 
A web page to log in to so that you can adjust all of its settings and how 
exactly do you log in to the router?
Then if you get the same brand of extender then let say if you have your router 
down stairs and you plug in the extender up stairs will it still boost the 
signal?
Also how do you configure the extender once you plug it in?
So you get it up and running?



On 10/25/2015 3:41 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello Regina,
>
> I am not a big fan of using ISP routers, wireless or wired.
>
> Because I prefer to use my Windows computer to manage my home network, I use 
> a Cisco router, combined with a Cisco extender.  The extender costs about 
> $20, from Best Buy and is, of course, wireless.
>
> Because the router and the extender are made by the same company, 
> configuration between the two devices is virtually automatic.
>
> I have the MODEM and router upstairs and the tiny little extender simply 
> plugged into an outlet, down stairs.  As a consequence, I receive 96% 
> connection from anywhere in the house.
>
> Mark
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Regina Alvarado
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 9:01 AM
> To: Viphone
> Subject: "OFF topic, slightly
>
> Off topic but not. I need a device to help boost my wifi. We have a router 
> that belongs to a cable company. What am I looking for to boost signal, and 
> if possible any thoughts on the best one? Thanks for the help, and sorry 
> about off topic. BTW, we have both windows and apple.
>
> reggie & Lex
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ot: features for braille-users with windows-screenreaders

[William Windels]

Hello all,

I know that there are many windows-users on this list.
So I would like something ask you, perhaps of topic:
Since braille on mac osx is not so advanced as it is on most windows 
screenreaders, I would like to have a kind of functions/overview of 
braille-features that are available for most windows-screenreaders.

I knew Jaws for windows the best but I have no windows-machine here to search 
for the features.

If someone could give me some links, a featurelist of jaws or other 
screenreaders for windows, this would be great.

Also, personal suggestions of important features are also welcome.
I would send some important information to apple accessibility.
Of course, you can do it also if you find that the braille-support in osx is 
missing some important features…

I suggest you mail me off list: william.wind...@gmail.com.

Thx in advance,

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Adding contacts in the contact app.

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

Hi: When I am adding a contact, after putting in name and number, I go to
the button that says "insert email and add email" I put the email in the
location and save the contact. 

When I look at the contact, the email isn't in the place I put it. Is there
something tricky about the add contact app that I'm missing?

Thanks. 

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Re: Let's talk about imojies... specifically how to find them!!!

[Lisa Belville]

Jen, it's been a while since I was in that section, but can't you move by 
heading to at least get into a specific group quickly?  I agree there's a 
lot of them and frankly, I'm not sure when some of them are used.  I get the 
basic facial expressions, but most of them are beyond me.


Lisa

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I wish there was an easier way to go through the imojie list! There are so 
many by the time I find what I want... I forget! lol. I wish there was a way 
to search for them... like an edit box before the imoji keyboard! Sure, when 
I find the ones I want... they go into my frequently used category... but 
still! Also, is there a way to remove ones that are in the frequently used 
list? It's nice to have so many of them... but sheesh! lol. At least sighted 
people can just glance all at once... we have to spend an hour flicking 
through them. Ok... rant over. (smile)


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Re: iPhone 6 unfamiliar sound

[Daniel Miller]

It scrolls the screen down, so it’s easier to operate with one hand. It places 
all the stuff that’s at the top of the screen normally near the bottom half.

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Kim Samco  wrote:
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> OMG!  That's it!  Thank ou!  Now, what does reachability mean?
> 
> Kim
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 1:55 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
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>> The only thing I can think of is reachability, when you double tap the home 
>> button, not press it. You’re probably doing it and not realizing it.
>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Kim Samco  wrote:
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>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I'm still getting acquainted with the iPhone 6 and there is a sound that I 
>>> haven't herd on any of my other iPhones.
>>> 
>>> As with many sounds it's hard to describe in an e-mail.  It's sort of 
>>> between a swoosh and the sound a pterodactyl. might make  I looked in the 
>>> sound settings and only saw the sounds that I'm familiar with.
>>> 
>>> Can anyone tell me what this sound means and if I can get rid of it.  
>>> 
>>> Oh...I haven't really been able to pinpoint exactly when it does it.  I 
>>> guess sometimes when I close a folder and/or app.
>>> 
>>> THanks,
>>> 
>>> Kim
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Re: Another way to enter contacts?

[Matthew Bullis]

Oh, I forgot that to close the command prompt, type the word exit and it goes 
away.
Matthew

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Re: Another way to enter contacts?

[Chris Chaffin]

I actually use dropbox instead of emailing the file.
But when you make the pop up window come up, you will just choose open in.  And 
one of the choices will be contacts.
When it opens in contacts, one of the first things is a save button.  Just 
double tap the save button, and it will save the contact information into your 
contacts.

Hope this helps,

Chris




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> Where do you mail it to from the pc, into the contacts somehow? Any help 
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> 
> Thank you for the file.  I have played with it, and have a couple of 
> questions.
> Since there is only one edit field for the name, I am assuming that there is 
> no way of making it where it will fill the first name edit field in contacts, 
> then the second.  Or, where it will fill the company name edit field?
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> Thanks,
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> 
>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 11:11 PM, Rob  wrote:
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>> This is a PC program.
>> Its a small executable.
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3387062/VcfGenerator.exe
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/1/2015 9:09 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I am interested in this.  Is it an app in the app store?  I looked and 
>>> could not find it.
>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 1, 2015, at 9:49 PM, Rob  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 There may be many ways, Here is one.
 Vcf Generator V1.0 by Erkan HACIOGLU
 written by Erkan HACIOGLU
 I create the .vcf file, and email it to my iPhone from my PC.
 
 
> On 11/1/2015 8:20 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote:
> Hello, just wondering if there's another way than on the phone itself to 
> enter contacts? Can it be done within ITunes or another program? 
> Alternatively, can I create some file and upload it? As I'm getting an 
> iPhone in a few days, and my contacts are not transferrable because 
> they're on an old phone, I have about eighty to enter.
> Thanks,
> Matthew
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Re: Another way to enter contacts?

[Rob]

There are two fields for the name.
the first field is titled Name.
and the second field is titled Sir Name.


On 11/1/2015 10:55 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:


Thank you for the file.  I have played with it, and have a couple of 
questions.
Since there is only one edit field for the name, I am assuming that 
there is no way of making it where it will fill the first name edit 
field in contacts, then the second.  Or, where it will fill the 
company name edit field?


Thanks,

Chris




On Nov 1, 2015, at 11:11 PM, Rob > wrote:



This is a PC program.
Its a small executable.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3387062/VcfGenerator.exe


On 11/1/2015 9:09 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:

Hello,
I am interested in this.  Is it an app in the app store?  I looked 
and could not find it.

Any help would be appreciated.

Chris




On Nov 1, 2015, at 9:49 PM, Rob > wrote:



Hi,
There may be many ways, Here is one.
Vcf Generator V1.0 by Erkan HACIOGLU
written by Erkan HACIOGLU
I create the .vcf file, and email it to my iPhone from my PC.


On 11/1/2015 8:20 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote:
Hello, just wondering if there's another way than on the phone 
itself to enter contacts? Can it be done within ITunes or another 
program? Alternatively, can I create some file and upload it? As 
I'm getting an iPhone in a few days, and my contacts are not 
transferrable because they're on an old phone, I have about eighty 
to enter.

Thanks,
Matthew
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RE: using an iPhone only as a devicee

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Mary,

You can make calls with other devices, e.g. an older iPhone without SIM or a 
WiFi only iPad even without WiFi calling. This is the setting Christopher 
mentioned, under Phone > Calls from other devices. The other device or devices 
must be on the same WiFi network as your primary phone and I believe must be 
using the same Apple Id. You are basically using the cellular modem of your 
primary phone as a hotspot for lack of a better word and the call is routed 
through your phone even if it is locked and sitting in another room. You can 
even make calls from your Mac this way and this was introduced I think in iOS 7.
The WiFi calling feature from T-Mobile is similar except as you said you can 
even make a call from your iPad if you are out and about as long as you have 
WiFi access somewhere.
However, your old 5S without SIM receiving calls/ringing at the same time as 
you r new 6S is because of the Calls from other devices setting, if you delete 
your 5S from there it will no longer ring when somebody else calls you.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Subject: Re: using an iPhone only as a devicee

Nobody was questioning the need for having a cell account. I was only saying 
that I have iPhone with T-Mobile that has Wi-Fi calling. I have an iPad mini 
two which has no cellular capability. With the iPhone locked, I can make calls 
to landline's using an iPad mini over Wi-Fi. I can't see how that can be done 
if I didn't have Wi-Fi calling. Further, I recall seeing a T-Mobile promotion 
for Wi-Fi calling saying that if you left your Phone at home, say, but found 
yourself in a place where you had Wi-Fi connectivity and a device that you had 
okayed this calling from other devices through, you would be able to make calls 
on that device. So I suppose what I should do is leave my phone home and go to 
a nearby coffee shop where my iPad has the Wi-Fi network and see if I can make 
a call from there.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 8:17 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
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> How near is near? It works over wifi and bluetooth, letting your phone be 
> quite far away--in another room, for instance--and it'll still work. My 
> understanding of wifi calling is that it relies on your cell provider, but 
> simply uses wifi to carry the signal instead of a cell tower. You still need 
> a cellular account and a device from your carrier to do it.
>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 23:11, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> OK, you are right. It is a separate setting. But when I want to know is 
>> this. Since your iPhone doesn't have to be anywhere near you when you make 
>> these calls, if you don't have Wi-Fi calling enabled on your iPhone, how on 
>> earth does your noncellular iPad mini make this call? Clearly, it is using 
>> Wi-Fi. How does that work?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm guessing this isn't wifi calling but rather Settings -> Phone -> Calls 
>>> on Other Devices. This allows you to receive calls on other devices on the 
>>> same network.
>>> 
 On 11/01/2015 07:12 PM, candyrl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 I have a 5 s which I am using only as a device while i use my iPhone 6 as 
 my phone.  I have Verizon as my carrier, but, this 5 s is an ATT phone.  
 When I receive a telephone call, both phones ring.  I assume this is some 
 type of WiFi call, but, I can not make a call from the 5 s.  I realize 
 that it has no service, but, I am able to answer calls with it.  I am able 
 to make facetime calls with the 5 s.  Can anyone explain this to me?  When 
 I try to make a call, it says I have no service.  I understand this, but, 
 how is it that I can receive calls?  I am just curious.
 
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Does anyone know/can anyone remind me how to create groups within contacts on IPhone/IPad?

['Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone]

Hi all 

Was just wondering if anyone knows/can remind me how I go about creating groups 
within contacts on my IPhone/IPad? I haven't needed to do so for a while, but 
now I have so many contacts I think I need to start grouping them. So is it 
still possible? 

Thanks. 

Eleanor 

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Re: Another way to enter contacts?

[Matthew Bullis]

Wow, interesting program. I got it wrong the first time, since the name field 
really means last name. The surname is for the first name. With this program, 
do you have to deal with a file for each name, or is there a way to get all 
data into one long file?
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Re: Another way to enter contacts?

[Rob]

You will have to create a new vcf file for each contact.


On 11/1/2015 11:00 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote:
Wow, interesting program. I got it wrong the first time, since the 
name field really means last name. The surname is for the first name. 
With this program, do you have to deal with a file for each name, or 
is there a way to get all data into one long file?

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Re: Another way to enter contacts?

[Matthew Bullis]

OK, I've found the solution. I Googled this, and it's my kind of workaround, 
since I was trained in DOS. Basically just create however many vcf files you 
need, then make sure they are all in an easy-to-find folder. In my case, 
they're all in c:\downloads.

Use Windows R to get the Run dialog box and type cmd. You're now in the command 
prompt.
Because this lands you within the Windows directory, type cd\ to get to the 
root of the C drive.
Then type cd downloads. You'll of course replace the word downloads with 
whatever folder name you need to. You should get a response back that you're in 
the right folder.
type copy *.vcf all.vcf
or whatever you want to call the new .vcf file. This reads all of the files 
that have this extention, and writes one long file with everything in it. Now 
you need only e-mail this one file to your device. Once you click on the 
attachment, the alert will say, for instance, add twelve contacts. Once you get 
past this alert, you can make new contacts or merge. In my case, all will be 
new.
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Re: Another way to enter contacts?

[Robert Cole]

That's a good idea.
I will have to try it.
Thank you

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 11:29 PM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
> 
> OK, I've found the solution. I Googled this, and it's my kind of workaround, 
> since I was trained in DOS. Basically just create however many vcf files you 
> need, then make sure they are all in an easy-to-find folder. In my case, 
> they're all in c:\downloads.
>  
> Use Windows R to get the Run dialog box and type cmd. You're now in the 
> command prompt.
> Because this lands you within the Windows directory, type cd\ to get to the 
> root of the C drive.
> Then type cd downloads. You'll of course replace the word downloads with 
> whatever folder name you need to. You should get a response back that you're 
> in the right folder.
> type copy *.vcf all.vcf
> or whatever you want to call the new .vcf file. This reads all of the files 
> that have this extention, and writes one long file with everything in it. Now 
> you need only e-mail this one file to your device. Once you click on the 
> attachment, the alert will say, for instance, add twelve contacts. Once you 
> get past this alert, you can make new contacts or merge. In my case, all will 
> be new.
> Matthew
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Re: PTA Does anyone know how I can send multiple word documents as attachments in a single e-mail from my IPad?

['Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone]

Hi all 

Thanks so much for all your help with this one. Selecting edit from the rota 
when I was in the message body and choosing add attachment seemed to work a 
treat! So thank you. 

Just one other question which is kind of related. I want to put a poster, which 
is one of the attachments I was e-mailing out to people, on to twitter. Does 
anyone know if/how this can be done? 

Thanks. 

Eleanor 

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> On 1 Nov 2015, at 06:53, Vollbrecht Family  wrote:
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> I am about 99% sure that this will work, but be advised that I did not 
> actually complete the testing all the way through to sending multiple 
> attachments. When in the body of the message, double tap and hold where you 
> want the attachment inserted. Be sure that you tap above the keyboard so you 
> don't inadvertently choose a letter. After you hear the three rising tones, 
> lift your finger and you will get a pop-up menu. Choose show more and then 
> choose add attachment. In my case this actually brought me to iCloud Drive. I 
> was able to see my folders and files and I was able to double tap on the 
> folder to open it up. The reason I think I could select more than one item is 
> because there is a done button which seems like you would choose that when 
> you are finished, rather than the action being finished as soon as you double 
> tap on an item to attach. Let me know how this goes for you or if the 
> instructions are not clear.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 7:03 PM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via peel-the-apple 
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>> Hi all 
>> 
>> Just wondering if anyone can help me. I have 2 Word documents which I've 
>> written and are saved on ICloud Drive on my IPad Mini 3. I want to e-mail 
>> these documents out to people as attachments, but obviously would rather 
>> attach both of them to the same e-mail. So does anyone know how I can do 
>> this from my IPad. Any help/instructions much appreciated. 
>> 
>> Many thanks. 
>> 
>> Eleanor 
>> 
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Re: Another way to enter contacts?

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Where do you mail it to from the pc, into the contacts somehow? Any help 
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  Thank you for the file.  I have played with it, and have a couple of 
questions.
  Since there is only one edit field for the name, I am assuming that there is 
no way of making it where it will fill the first name edit field in contacts, 
then the second.  Or, where it will fill the company name edit field?


  Thanks,


  Chris






  On Nov 1, 2015, at 11:11 PM, Rob  wrote:


This is a PC program.
Its a small executable.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3387062/VcfGenerator.exe



On 11/1/2015 9:09 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:

  Hello,
  I am interested in this.  Is it an app in the app store?  I looked and 
could not find it.
  Any help would be appreciated.


  Chris






  On Nov 1, 2015, at 9:49 PM, Rob  wrote:


Hi,
There may be many ways, Here is one.
Vcf Generator V1.0 by Erkan HACIOGLU
written by Erkan HACIOGLU
I create the .vcf file, and email it to my iPhone from my PC.



On 11/1/2015 8:20 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote:

  Hello, just wondering if there's another way than on the phone itself 
to enter contacts? Can it be done within ITunes or another program? 
Alternatively, can I create some file and upload it? As I'm getting an iPhone 
in a few days, and my contacts are not transferrable because they're on an old 
phone, I have about eighty to enter.
  Thanks,
  Matthew
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