Re: starting to Twitter

[Alex Hall]

I quite like Tweetings, though Twitterrific is also a good option.
> On Nov 20, 2015, at 04:08, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
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> hello the list,
> I have decided it is time to start to use Twitter. I know absolutely nothing 
> about it! I will be using my iPhone 6 running 9.1. can anyone direct me to 
> the easiest to use app and give me some pointers to start me off?
> 
> thanks in anticipation, Sandy
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Re: starting to Twitter

[Alex Hall]

Just for the record, I've never had Tweetings crash or do anything like that, 
on both an iPhone 5 and a 6s Plus. Gap-filling can be set to automatic, which 
should take care of the missing tweets. URLs I'm not sure of, but if you mean 
Twitterrific reads only the t.co links, I'd rather hear the short version of 
the actual link so I know where I'm going. Both are solid apps, and each has 
things the other lacks. All I can suggest is to try both, or at least find 
podcasts on both, to help make the choice.
> On Nov 20, 2015, at 11:45, Cristóbal <crismuno...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I've always known Twitterrific to be a paid app. I paid for it way back when 
> and I believe that this is still the case. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 8:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: starting to Twitter
> 
>  I'm one of the few who uses the Twitter official app on my 4S with 9.1 
> and it works oK. Is twitterific now free again? because Ithink it used 
> to be, then it was paid, and I haven't heard as of yet what's the deal 
> now with Twitteriffic?
> 
> El 20/11/2015 10:00 a.m., Cristóbal escribió:
>> Tweetings was my go to Twitter app after it was apparent TweetList4 was 
>> abandoned. More and more however, I have found myself going back to 
>> Twitterrific. There were some scrolling bugs that I didn't care for, but 
>> have since been fixed in Twitterrific and it's gotten better at maintaining 
>> one's place. While I do like Tweetings a lot, there is way too much app 
>> crashing and hanging with VO that haven't really gotten better with updates. 
>> Also, I have noticed that with Tweetings, entire chunks of tweets will 
>> simply not show. If I don't check into it for a while and refresh the main 
>> home list, my tweets can jump from say three hours to one hour ago, etc. 
>> Twittterrific doesn’t' do this. Twitterrific also has the URL shortening 
>> which is very helpful to cut down on Voiceover chatter. That said, I do 
>> prefer Tweetings' way of reading out retweets and quoted tweets.
>> The official Twitter app was fairly decent for a short bit, but it's been 
>> forever since I really tried to use it as accessibility didn't get better 
>> and in fact, got worse.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 6:42 AM
>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
>> Subject: Re: starting to Twitter
>> 
>> I quite like Tweetings, though Twitterrific is also a good option.
>>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 04:08, 'Sandratomkins' via 
>>> VIPhone<viphone@googlegroups.com>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> hello the list,
>>> I have decided it is time to start to use Twitter. I know absolutely 
>>> nothing about it! I will be using my iPhone 6 running 9.1. can anyone 
>>> direct me to the easiest to use app and give me some pointers to start me 
>>> off?
>>> 
>>> thanks in anticipation, Sandy
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Unsubscribing for a While

[Alex Hall]

Just a note to say I'll be unsubscribing for a while. It's nothing on the 
list--not a member, or a policy, or anything like that. I just get so many 
messages that my Apple email folder is constantly flooded. By the time I get to 
them, they've usually been answered, and I end up deleting nearly everything 
that comes in. I'm just trying to cut back on my email; I'll remain on the 
MacVisionaries list, but I'm dropping this and the other Apple/VO lists for a 
bit. Again, it's not the fault of the list or anyone on it, it's just too much 
traffic with too little benefit for the moment. My @VOTips Twitter account is 
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Re: anyone experiencing these braille input problems on ios 9?

[Alex Hall]

You covered all my suggestions already, except one. As much as I hate to 
suggest it, have you done a settings reset? That should clear out whatever 
mysterious gremlin is causing the problem, hopefully. Less drastically, but 
even less likely to help: have you tried a different braille code, just to see 
if that has the same issues?
> On Nov 17, 2015, at 13:21, Paul Erkens <paul.erk...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi listers,
> 
> Lately, the iphone of a friend who does not read English started acting 
> strangely while inputting braille. We did what we could, as described below. 
> Please think with us.. Here’s what happens.
> 
> Suddenly, and with no apparent reason so far discovered, when he wants to 
> type braille on the phone, the orientation seems to have changed 180 degrees. 
> That is, in landscape, he used to have the volume buttons facing the floor, 
> resting the phone on his pinkies and keeping it gripped with his thumbs, that 
> is now upside down. I.e.: The volume buttons now have to point to the ceiling 
> and the home button has to point to the right. Second problem now is, that 
> when he types characters that consist only of the 4 upper braille dots, so 1 
> 2 4 and 5, all is well. But any character where either dots 3 and or 6 are 
> involved, the inputted characters do not come out as typed. For instance, an 
> m, as in Mike, becomes an f. An n, as in november, becomes a g. I thought 
> that he needed to recalibrate his dots and so he did, but no change. This dot 
> 3 6 problem gets even more strange, because the letter k, as in kind, becomes 
> a semi colon. In his braille table, dots 2 and 3. That prooves that dot 3 is 
> seen indeed. After a reboot, the problem changes, and then, different 
> characters come out. For instance, then, he can no longer type the a, as in 
> action. That becomes a comma, dot 2.
> 
> Here’s what he tried to resolve this issue:
> A sighted person came and looked, with an interesting outcome. It appears 
> that, even though we as braille users now need to hold the phone with the 
> volume buttons facing toward the ceiling, for a sighted person, the dots are 
> still in their original, correct orientation. I.e.: according to his son, 
> dots 1 2 3 are still near the home button, and 4 5 and 6 are toward the 
> speaker end. Still, hitting dot 1 makes the phone think it is dot 4. 
> Recalibration does not help, so we tried the following, with no change in 
> input behaviour.
> 
> 1. He unlocked the generic iphone screen orientation lock, using the control 
> center screen.
> 2. He unlocked his voiceover braille orientation lock, using a 3 finger swipe 
> up, while in landscape screen away braille mode.
> 3. He turned voiceover off and on.
> 4. He turned the phone off and back on.
> 5. We held the home button and the on off button for 12 seconds, the iphone 
> rebooted, but no help.
> 
> What did help, was that he restored his icloud backup a few days old. 
> However, the problem came back today.
> He did not play any games, nor did anything provocative to the phone, such as 
> installing or removing apps, or changing any setting, hoping to catch the 
> problem if it returned. But it seems he just used the phone to answer and 
> write his email, sms and i messages.
> 
> So, finally we are turning to you listers. Any other suggestions on what 
> might be going on here are very welcome. We seem to be out of options. Please 
> drop me a line if you have the slightest idea what to try next.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Paul.
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Re: Guidelines to make accessible apps in IOS

[Alex Hall]

Here is a page with links to everything they’ll need:
https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/ios/
On Nov 8, 2015, at 12:10 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
> 
> Hello there,
> 
> If they are using Xcode most things within Xcode should be accessible.  If 
> not they can visit the developer site at http://developer.apple.com 
>  and I believe there are guide lines there.
> 
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2015, at 9:59 AM, Ketan Kothari > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi friends,
>>  
>> There are several app developers in India who have apps that are popular and 
>> useful but inaccessible.  They are very keen to make them accessibe but are 
>> their any guidelines readily available?  if yes, where can I find them?  
>> please help.
>>  
>> With best wishes,
>>  
>> Ketan
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Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Posting Beta Questions to the List Will Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status

[Alex Hall]

Mark,
I haven't been following the beta testing thread at all, so forgive me if this 
an obvious question. List members can post questions *about* testing, correct? 
Downgrading, signing up, un-enrolling devices, and the like are all fine, as 
they aren't covered by NDA. It's only questions specific to a beta (is this bug 
fixed in the new beta, and such) that are the problem? This has long been my 
understanding of the policy on this and other lists, but I wanted to check now 
that it's come up.
> On Nov 6, 2015, at 23:04, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
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> Hello Daniel,
> 
> You ask a very good question.  I should have included the information in my 
> original email.
> 
> Being placed on moderated status means that one's post must first be approved 
> by a moderator before being sent out to the entire list.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Daniel Miller
> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 7:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Posting Beta Questions to the List Will Result 
> in Being Switched to Moderated Status
> 
> Hi Mark, forgive my ignorance, but what does moderated status mean exactly?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2015, at 9:47 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> Recently, a list member deliberately posted a beta software question 
>> to the list knowing that doing so is prohibited.
>> 
>> As a result, even though it saddens me greatly, that member has been 
>> placed on moderated status.  I have informed the list member of the 
>> change in posting privileges.
>> 
>> Please do not post beta software questions to the list as doing so 
>> will cause you to be placed on moderated status.
>> 
>> Thank you all for respecting the list policies.
>> 
>> Mark
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Re: using an iPhone only as a devicee

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How near is near? It works over wifi and bluetooth, letting your phone be quite 
far away--in another room, for instance--and it'll still work. My understanding 
of wifi calling is that it relies on your cell provider, but simply uses wifi 
to carry the signal instead of a cell tower. You still need a cellular account 
and a device from your carrier to do it.
> On Nov 1, 2015, at 23:11, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> OK, you are right. It is a separate setting. But when I want to know is this. 
> Since your iPhone doesn't have to be anywhere near you when you make these 
> calls, if you don't have Wi-Fi calling enabled on your iPhone, how on earth 
> does your noncellular iPad mini make this call? Clearly, it is using Wi-Fi. 
> How does that work?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm guessing this isn't wifi calling but rather Settings -> Phone -> Calls 
>> on Other Devices. This allows you to receive calls on other devices on the 
>> same network.
>> 
>>> On 11/01/2015 07:12 PM, candyrl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> I have a 5 s which I am using only as a device while i use my iPhone 6 as 
>>> my phone.  I have Verizon as my carrier, but, this 5 s is an ATT phone.  
>>> When I receive a telephone call, both phones ring.  I assume this is some 
>>> type of WiFi call, but, I can not make a call from the 5 s.  I realize that 
>>> it has no service, but, I am able to answer calls with it.  I am able to 
>>> make facetime calls with the 5 s.  Can anyone explain this to me?  When I 
>>> try to make a call, it says I have no service.  I understand this, but, how 
>>> is it that I can receive calls?  I am just curious.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: using an iPhone only as a devicee

[Alex Hall]

Sounds like call forwarding is enabled. When you get a call on the 6, it causes 
any other devices on your wifi network, signed into your iCloud account, to 
ring as well. Macs, iPads, iPods, or Apple Watches would all do the same thing 
if present and activated. That's also why you can't make calls on the 5s; it 
can get forwarded calls from the 6, but can't initiate anything on its own 
using the phone part. However, you should be able to use FaceTime and call 
other Apple users or regular phone numbers and, as above, your 6 will be the 
actual caller, but your 5s will be sort of a fancy speakerphone. Calling other 
Apple users is possible because that uses wifi only, not a cell carrier.
> On Nov 1, 2015, at 20:12, candyrl...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> I have a 5 s which I am using only as a device while i use my iPhone 6 as my 
> phone.  I have Verizon as my carrier, but, this 5 s is an ATT phone.  When I 
> receive a telephone call, both phones ring.  I assume this is some type of 
> WiFi call, but, I can not make a call from the 5 s.  I realize that it has no 
> service, but, I am able to answer calls with it.  I am able to make facetime 
> calls with the 5 s.  Can anyone explain this to me?  When I try to make a 
> call, it says I have no service.  I understand this, but, how is it that I 
> can receive calls?  I am just curious.  
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Re: how to program apps?

[Alex Hall]

The tutorial that Scott mentioned--whose link I don't have handy--is the best 
way to get started. It won't teach you Swift, just Xcode; to learn Swift, I 
just googled it. Between Apple, Treehouse, Ray Wunderlich, and other sites, I 
picked it up easily enough. Of course, your level of ease will depend a great 
deal on what--if any--programming experience you have already. 

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> Sorry for the crossposting, but I'm asking about both. What's the best way 
> for someone to learn how to program with apple's "swift" language? Is it easy 
> to learn? is Xcode accessible/easy to figure out? What about if you don't pay 
> for another year of the developer progoam? Would your app still remain in the 
> app store? what's better/easier to program for, mac, or iphone? if it's for 
> mac, respond on the mac list, iphone, the iphone list please. or just write 
> to me privately keeping the subject intact so threads are organized correctly 
> whichever you prefeer! Thanks for helping me on this!
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Re: Anyone else have trouble with Voice Dream Reader on the Plus?

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Please disregard my message. I thought I'd used VDR last night after installing 
the public beta, so it never crossed my mind that the beta was the problem. It 
seems to be, though, so there's no problem for most people. Sorry for the 
confusion.
> On Oct 30, 2015, at 17:49, Christina C. <blindmaclo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am on a iPhone 6 plus running iOS 9.1 and I used VDR today just fine. Knock 
> on wood.
> 
> HTH,
> Christina 
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Greg Wocher <icewolf2...@gtwebdesign.us> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I am using it on my 6+ right now with no issues. I am running iOS9.1.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Greg Wocher
>> 
>> Visit my online portfolio at:
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>> On 10/30/2015 1:04 PM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote:
>>> This is becoming rather interesting. I'd love to know if others who ar
>>> not using beta software are also having problems with the app.
>>> 
>>> On 10/30/15, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>> 
>>>> Are you running the iOS 2 public beta? I've heard that people running it 
>>>> are
>>>> experiencing this problem.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Anna
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> Last night, VDR was working fine. Today, when I opened it in preparation
>>>>> for moving my old phone's VDR library over, it was really odd. Book and
>>>>> folder names, as well as most buttons in Settings, had no labels at all.
>>>>> For instance, touching a folder name would cause VO to click, to indicate
>>>>> I'd touched a new item, then say simply, "actions available". Similarly,
>>>>> voice settings, account logins, and other buttons in Settings just said
>>>>> "button". Yet, the settings button itself, and a few others, still have
>>>>> labels. Why it was fine yesterday and broken today is the real mystery
>>>>> here, because this means it wasn't a bad update or anything. Has anyone
>>>>> seen this? Is there anything I could try? Thanks in advance.
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Re: Transferring purchased audio books to new iPhone?

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Update: thanks to Twitter, I got it working. I was expecting a process that 
would be the inverse of "transfer purchases", but the solution was simply to 
sync all audio books. This had the added advantage of backing my newly 
purchased audio book up to my Mac even as it put my previously purchased books 
on my new phone.
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> Hey all,
> I have three audio books purchased on my iPhone5, which now live in a device 
> backup as well as on their own in my iCloud folder, for safe keeping. I want 
> to put them on my new phone, though, so I can listen to them. I'm really not 
> up on iTunes; how would I go about this? I can transfer purchases *from* iOS 
> to Mac, but how do I choose the three books and go the other way? Thanks!
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Transferring purchased audio books to new iPhone?

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Hey all,
I have three audio books purchased on my iPhone5, which now live in a device 
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put them on my new phone, though, so I can listen to them. I'm really not up on 
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Looking for minimalist belt case for 6s Plus

[Alex Hall]

Hey list,
I have a new 6s Plus here and I want to find a case for it. I don't want 
something bulky like an Otterbox or Life-Proof, but I do want it to allow me to 
clip the phone to my belt. I had a case for my 5 that let me do just that, and 
leave the phone facing out so I could issue commands without taking the phone 
off my belt, but I found myself always taking the phone in hand despite that 
feature. Thus, a holster, or something that doesn't support clipping with the 
screen out, is fine. As I said, the thinner the better; this is for convenience 
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Re: File Transfers in iTunes?

[Alex Hall]

Thanks, I eventually got it working. What happened was, I was looking under the 
'apps' radio button; I needed to go to the 'playlists' table, then choose 
'apps' from there. Only then would I see the file transfer interface I was 
searching for. I guess this shows how often I have to do this. :) I just needed 
to put my Voice Dream Reader library on my new phone, and that app doesn't 
support any cloud services for synching libraries.
> On Oct 30, 2015, at 11:56, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi alex,
> 
> Be sure you find the app in the File Sharing table. If you choose Apps in 
> Playlist and interact with the Apps scroll area, it's near the bottom of the 
> scroll area. Once you choose an app, VO-Right Arrow to the file sharing 
> Documents table. If the app is making any files available, they'll be listed 
> here. Note that many apps don't make their documents available through file 
> sharing, however. It may be easier to save them to iCloud or Dropbox using 
> the share feature available in most apps.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 9:54 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I know this topic has been covered, but I didn't need to do this until now. 
>> How, on the Mac and with the latest iTunes, would I go about transferring a 
>> file from an app on an iOS device? I'll then need to take that file and move 
>> it *to* an app on a second device. I'm in the 'apps' section and can find 
>> the app in the grid, but I can't figure out where to go from there. Thanks 
>> for any help.
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Anyone else have trouble with Voice Dream Reader on the Plus?

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
Last night, VDR was working fine. Today, when I opened it in preparation for 
moving my old phone's VDR library over, it was really odd. Book and folder 
names, as well as most buttons in Settings, had no labels at all. For instance, 
touching a folder name would cause VO to click, to indicate I'd touched a new 
item, then say simply, "actions available". Similarly, voice settings, account 
logins, and other buttons in Settings just said "button". Yet, the settings 
button itself, and a few others, still have labels. Why it was fine yesterday 
and broken today is the real mystery here, because this means it wasn't a bad 
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Pages on iOS can't see full iCloud?

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
I'm happy as a clam, playing with my shiny new iPhone 6s Plus. Not only do I 
have the new phone, but it came with the iWork suite of apps, which I've never 
had on iOS before. I was looking at Pages just now and tried to open a file in 
iCloud, but I can't get out of the Pages folder. Please tell me there's a way 
to view my full iCloud drive, like I can in any other app that supports iCloud? 
Same for Pages and Keynote. Thanks.

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Re: Exiting "setup iPhone" in iTunes?

[Alex Hall]

Okay, thank you. I just had visions of choosing "setup as new", and my phone 
resetting itself to defaults again so I could do exactly that. Seriously, 
Apple, all of iTunes is one huge question mark!
> On Oct 29, 2015, at 22:44, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Select set up as new, and it will proceed as normal. Since you already set it 
> up, iTunes will recognize that after selecting set up as new iPhone.
> I’ve had to do that several times, and each time, things have worked 
> perfectly. I know, that makes no sense, but that’s what you have to do.
> 
>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 9:41 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I have a new iPhone here, and I already configured it and am re-installing 
>> all my apps and data. I chose to set it up as new, in other words, but I did 
>> so hours ago. I need the UUID, and to grab a Voice Dream library, so I 
>> hooked the phone to iTunes. Suddenly, I have two options: set up as new, or 
>> restore from a backup, neither of which I want to do. All I can do is 
>> "continue", though, there's no way to close this. I just need the normal iOS 
>> device stuff--summary, apps, etc--I don't want to set anything up as 
>> anything. I've already done that! How do I proceed from here? Have I 
>> mentioned lately how much I hate iTunes?
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Exiting "setup iPhone" in iTunes?

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
I have a new iPhone here, and I already configured it and am re-installing all 
my apps and data. I chose to set it up as new, in other words, but I did so 
hours ago. I need the UUID, and to grab a Voice Dream library, so I hooked the 
phone to iTunes. Suddenly, I have two options: set up as new, or restore from a 
backup, neither of which I want to do. All I can do is "continue", though, 
there's no way to close this. I just need the normal iOS device stuff--summary, 
apps, etc--I don't want to set anything up as anything. I've already done that! 
How do I proceed from here? Have I mentioned lately how much I hate iTunes?

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File Transfers in iTunes?

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
I know this topic has been covered, but I didn't need to do this until now. 
How, on the Mac and with the latest iTunes, would I go about transferring a 
file from an app on an iOS device? I'll then need to take that file and move it 
*to* an app on a second device. I'm in the 'apps' section and can find the app 
in the grid, but I can't figure out where to go from there. Thanks for any help.

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Re: Pages on iOS can't see full iCloud?

[Alex Hall]

I know, but there's a file browser within Pages itself. That's the part I'm 
wondering about. Good point about opening files externally, though. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 29, 2015, at 18:14, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> go to settings>iCloud, and turn on show on home screen. There will be an 
> iCloud Drive app once you do that.
> 
>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I'm happy as a clam, playing with my shiny new iPhone 6s Plus. Not only do I 
>> have the new phone, but it came with the iWork suite of apps, which I've 
>> never had on iOS before. I was looking at Pages just now and tried to open a 
>> file in iCloud, but I can't get out of the Pages folder. Please tell me 
>> there's a way to view my full iCloud drive, like I can in any other app that 
>> supports iCloud? Same for Pages and Keynote. Thanks.
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Re: Apple ID verification prompt asking for 2FA recovery key?

[Alex Hall]

It's only if you enabled two-factor authentication before the iOS9 update. You 
would have been given a recovery key that you were warned to not lose. If you 
enabled it more recently, no such key is provided, and verification happens 
differently. If you don't have the feature enabled at all, there's nothing to 
worry about, though I would encourage you to turn it on as soon as you can.
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 17:24, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> What I have been getting is to verify my apple ID password in settings. When 
> I tap on this I am put in settings. I can then put in my apple password. 
> Everything goes well until the next time I turn off my phone. No code asked 
> for. What is this code, and where can I get it in case they ask?
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Oct 24, 2015, at 10:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:brajmund2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> And if you don't get it. Is that OK, too? I haven't even typed in a password 
> after the update. 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Alex Hall  <mehg...@icloud.com <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>>
> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Date: Saturday, October 24, 2015 2:52 pm
> Subject: Re: Apple ID verification prompt asking for 2FA recovery key?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Update: it's fine. I just called Apple, and was told that the 9.1 update is 
>> prompting everyone with two factor authentication enabled to enter their key 
>> due to a certificate update. Oddly, when I entered my password just now, 
>> intending to give it the key, it didn't ask me for one. Go figure! Anyway, 
>> if you're prompted for that key, this is apparently normal.
>>> On Oct 24, 2015, at 08:18, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> A couple days ago, my iPhone (running 9.1) asked for my Apple ID password.. 
>>> I thought nothing of it, until it then wanted my two factor authentication 
>>> recovery key. My understanding is that this key is for recovery only, if I 
>>> forget my password or am otherwise locked out of my account. My password 
>>> was right, though. I got nervous about this, because it shouldn't prompt 
>>> for that key, at least I don't think it should. Has anyone seen this, 
>>> and/or does anyone know what might be going on? The prompt comes up once a 
>>> day, but I haven't completed it yet. Things seem to be working just fine 
>>> without doing so.
>>> 
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>>> 
>> 
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Apple ID/keychain (was: Apple ID verification prompt asking for 2FA recovery key?)

[Alex Hall]

Two-factor authentication can be found under the Security link at 
http://appleid.apple.com. It has nothing to do with iCloud Keychain (which you 
can definitely leave off if you want to). Having to enter your password each 
time you unlock is nothing I've ever run into, except for a few times in some 
beta or other. Assuming you're not on a beta, have you tried turning your phone 
off and back on? A settings reset also comes to mind, but I don't know if 
there's a simpler solution I'm not seeing.
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 18:29, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Where can I find this? Is it tied to the keychain I did not want to turn on 
> but could find no way to avoid? What need are these 2 things, and if keychain 
> is not necessary how do I take it off? The necessity to always put in my 
> apple password is a pain every time I shut off my phone. I need explanation 
> from tekies who are smarter about technology than me. 
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 6:10 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
> 
> It's only if you enabled two-factor authentication before the iOS9 update. 
> You would have been given a recovery key that you were warned to not lose. If 
> you enabled it more recently, no such key is provided, and verification 
> happens differently. If you don't have the feature enabled at all, there's 
> nothing to worry about, though I would encourage you to turn it on as soon as 
> you can.
>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 17:24, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> What I have been getting is to verify my apple ID password in settings. When 
>> I tap on this I am put in settings. I can then put in my apple password. 
>> Everything goes well until the next time I turn off my phone. No code asked 
>> for. What is this code, and where can I get it in case they ask?
>> 
>> reggie & Lex
>> 
>> On Oct 24, 2015, at 10:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:brajmund2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> And if you don't get it. Is that OK, too? I haven't even typed in a password 
>> after the update. 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Alex Hall  <mehg...@icloud.com <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>>
>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> Date: Saturday, October 24, 2015 2:52 pm
>> Subject: Re: Apple ID verification prompt asking for 2FA recovery key?
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Update: it's fine. I just called Apple, and was told that the 9.1 update is 
>>> prompting everyone with two factor authentication enabled to enter their 
>>> key due to a certificate update. Oddly, when I entered my password just 
>>> now, intending to give it the key, it didn't ask me for one. Go figure! 
>>> Anyway, if you're prompted for that key, this is apparently normal.
>>>> On Oct 24, 2015, at 08:18, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
>>>> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> A couple days ago, my iPhone (running 9.1) asked for my Apple ID 
>>>> password.. I thought nothing of it, until it then wanted my two factor 
>>>> authentication recovery key. My understanding is that this key is for 
>>>> recovery only, if I forget my password or am otherwise locked out of my 
>>>> account. My password was right, though. I got nervous about this, because 
>>>> it shouldn't prompt for that key, at least I don't think it should. Has 
>>>> anyone seen this, and/or does anyone know what might be going on? The 
>>>> prompt comes up once a day, but I haven't completed it yet. Things seem to 
>>>> be working just fine without doing so.
>>>> 
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>>>> Alex Hall
>>>> mehg...@icloud.com <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>
>>>> 
>>> 
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Re: "OFF topic, slightly

[Alex Hall]

Me too! I have nothing yet, but I tried a wifi extender that caused nothing but 
problems. My plan now is to just get a second router, one with very good wifi, 
and connect it to my ISP's router. I'll then put the ISP device into bridge 
mode, and use the new router as the only source of wifi in the house. There are 
also much better extenders than what I tried, but I'd rather a better 
all-around router anyway. This is partly because I want it to support USB, so I 
can add drives or printers to the network.
> On Oct 25, 2015, at 12:01, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Off topic but not. I need a device to help boost my wifi. We have a router 
> that belongs to a cable company. What am I looking for to boost signal, and 
> if possible any thoughts on the best one? Thanks for the help, and sorry 
> about off topic. BTW, we have both windows and apple. 
> 
> 
> reggie & Lex
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Re: Extending WIFI Signal, was "OFF topic, slightly

[Alex Hall]

Using a normal router to extend range is difficult, because you won't want it 
connected to the ISP's router but rather in a different location. For this, you 
will normally need to install a different firmware package like Tomato or 
OpenRTR, I believe the names are. Doing this is complex, but once it's done, 
setting up the router as a repeater is pretty simple, according to the 
tutorials. Again, bridging right from the ISP to another router via hard wire 
is a different, much easier task, but that puts both boxes in the same area 
which defeats the purpose of extending your range by a lot. If the new router 
is much more powerful, or uses better hardware like AC wifi, that's a different 
story and bridging will likely work just fine--hence why I plan to do it.
> On Oct 25, 2015, at 13:24, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> its called bridging mode. most every commodity router can now do it.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Oct 25, 2015, at 9:57 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
> 
>> I do not know how to do it, but, apparently, one can use an ordinary router 
>> to extend the signal of another router.  I suggest that you google extending 
>> WIFI signal, improving WIFI signal, or, maybe,  using router as extender, to 
>> get more information.
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Regina Alvarado
>> To: Viphone
>> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 12:01 PM
>> Subject: "OFF topic, slightly
>> 
>> Off topic but not. I need a device to help boost my wifi. We have a router 
>> that belongs to a cable company. What am I looking for to boost signal, and 
>> if possible any thoughts on the best one? Thanks for the help, and sorry 
>> about off topic. BTW, we have both windows and apple. 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Apple ID verification prompt asking for 2FA recovery key?

[Alex Hall]

I imagine so, yes, but I didn't ask that. If you want to be sure, go to 
Settings > iCloud and wait a minute. That's where you'll be asked if it isn't 
popping up every day. Again, if you aren't asked, I wouldn't worry.
> On Oct 24, 2015, at 10:23, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> And if you don't get it. Is that OK, too? I haven't even typed in a password 
> after the update. 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Alex Hall  <mehg...@icloud.com>
> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Saturday, October 24, 2015 2:52 pm
> Subject: Re: Apple ID verification prompt asking for 2FA recovery key?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Update: it's fine. I just called Apple, and was told that the 9.1 update is 
>> prompting everyone with two factor authentication enabled to enter their key 
>> due to a certificate update. Oddly, when I entered my password just now, 
>> intending to give it the key, it didn't ask me for one. Go figure! Anyway, 
>> if you're prompted for that key, this is apparently normal.
>>> On Oct 24, 2015, at 08:18, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> A couple days ago, my iPhone (running 9.1) asked for my Apple ID password.. 
>>> I thought nothing of it, until it then wanted my two factor authentication 
>>> recovery key. My understanding is that this key is for recovery only, if I 
>>> forget my password or am otherwise locked out of my account. My password 
>>> was right, though. I got nervous about this, because it shouldn't prompt 
>>> for that key, at least I don't think it should. Has anyone seen this, 
>>> and/or does anyone know what might be going on? The prompt comes up once a 
>>> day, but I haven't completed it yet. Things seem to be working just fine 
>>> without doing so.
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> Alex Hall
>>> mehg...@icloud.com
>>> 
>> 
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Re: Apple ID verification prompt asking for 2FA recovery key?

[Alex Hall]

Update: it's fine. I just called Apple, and was told that the 9.1 update is 
prompting everyone with two factor authentication enabled to enter their key 
due to a certificate update. Oddly, when I entered my password just now, 
intending to give it the key, it didn't ask me for one. Go figure! Anyway, if 
you're prompted for that key, this is apparently normal.
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> A couple days ago, my iPhone (running 9.1) asked for my Apple ID password. I 
> thought nothing of it, until it then wanted my two factor authentication 
> recovery key. My understanding is that this key is for recovery only, if I 
> forget my password or am otherwise locked out of my account. My password was 
> right, though. I got nervous about this, because it shouldn't prompt for that 
> key, at least I don't think it should. Has anyone seen this, and/or does 
> anyone know what might be going on? The prompt comes up once a day, but I 
> haven't completed it yet. Things seem to be working just fine without doing 
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Apple ID verification prompt asking for 2FA recovery key?

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Hi all,
A couple days ago, my iPhone (running 9.1) asked for my Apple ID password. I 
thought nothing of it, until it then wanted my two factor authentication 
recovery key. My understanding is that this key is for recovery only, if I 
forget my password or am otherwise locked out of my account. My password was 
right, though. I got nervous about this, because it shouldn't prompt for that 
key, at least I don't think it should. Has anyone seen this, and/or does anyone 
know what might be going on? The prompt comes up once a day, but I haven't 
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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

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Re: If bluetooth device is connected, VoiceOver doesn't recognize it. Anyone Else?

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Yes, that happens with my Aftershokz, now that you mention it. The audio has to 
be set up *after* VO is turned on or it won't wrk correctly. I'd definitely 
email Apple about that one.
> On Oct 22, 2015, at 16:00, Pete Nalda <lpna...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Ok, I’m thinking of writing Apple Accessibility about this, But wanted to run 
> it by ya’ll first.  Scenario is that, when my bluetooth headset is connected, 
> turning VoiceOver on makes it’s output come through the speaker instead of my 
> bluetooth headphones, in my case the Plantronics Backbeat fit.  Now, if I 
> turn voiceover on, then connect the headphones, everything is fine.  Problem 
> is, I don’t do that as I generally leave VO off until I need it to read print 
> that requires too much zooming, my eyes are tired, or I’m testing a11y. 
> Anyone else notice this?  Thanks in advance.
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Re: Braile screen input

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You put it in the orientation you prefer, then do a three-finger swipe up or 
down (either direction will work). That locks it; do the same thing to unlock 
it. Put another way, three-finger swipes up or down toggle the lock on and off.
> On Oct 22, 2015, at 17:29, Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> I heard that you can switch it so the Braille screen input will stay in 
> either tabletop or screen away mode. How do I do this in iOS 9?
> thanks,
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Re: ACCESSIBLE METRONOME

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I may have the spelling wrong, but Taptronome is good. You can simply tap the 
screen at the interval you want, and it will use that tempo. This makes it 
really easy to set, because there's no slider or text field to worry about.
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> IS ANYONE AWARE OF A METRONOME APP that allows adjustability in the speed?  I 
> am using the 5S with8.4.  I found a talking one but I can’t adjust it.  I was 
> only able to turn it on once.  There are no buttons on the screen.  Luckily 
> it was a free app.  I don’t mind paying for an app if that’s the only way to 
> get the job done.
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Re: Reading a text message by character with the iPhone6

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Each time you move away from, then back to, the message, the rotor switches to 
"actions". Flicking up and down here is how you get to the options you're 
hearing, and is why the rotor doesn't stay on characters. So long as you don't 
move from the message, the rotor should stay put. If you do leave and come back 
to it, just rotor right once and you should land back on characters.
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> Hi:
> I am having a problem reading a text I receive from someone in character 
> mode. I go into character mode and when I flick up and down it sometimes says 
> activate or more. Sometimes it reads in character but it is inconsistent.
> What am I doing wrong.
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Re: Mass deletion of emails from iPhone or iPad

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 disappear momentarily and 
> then reappear, repeating the procedure will eventually make them stay deleted 
> for good.
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>  <http://www.avast.com/>  
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. 
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Did 9.0.2 or 9.1 fix the bluetooth keyboard bug?

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Hi all,
I don't use a bluetooth keyboard, but I have plenty of clients who do and who, 
therefore, have not yet updated to iOS9. There's that bug where, randomly, 
keyboards will fail to type any text at all while VO is enabled. Since I can't 
test this myself, I wanted to ask: did iOS9.0.2, or today's iOS9.1, fix that 
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Re: Using Apple Maps For Exploring

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Apple Maps does do this, actually. In Maps, find the "tracking" button, and 
double tap it until it is set to "on with headings". Now, so long as Maps is 
open and the phone is unlocked, you'll hear streets and some POIs as you move.
> On Oct 20, 2015, at 02:39, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
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> Hello Destene,
> 
> At present, I do not believe that Apple Maps will automatically announce 
> intersections.  At one point, I would have gone so far as to state that such 
> a feature is not likely to be forth coming but, after several discussions I 
> had with others, Apple may, at some point, add such functionality.  
> 
> I use the Seeing Eye GPS app in order to hear automatic intersection 
> announcements.
> 
> Mark  
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> -Original Message-
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> Destene Noller
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 3:33 PM
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> Subject: Using Apple Maps For Exploring
> 
> I have had extremely wonderful success using Apple Maps on my iPhone 6 to get 
> driving directions, but now that the weather is getting wonderful again here 
> in Phoenix, I'd like to go out walking and here streets announced as I go.  I 
> tried this this afternoon but it didn't seem to work as I expected.  I made 
> sure to turn tracking on, but I didn't put in an ending location, because I 
> didn't have a specific destination in mind.  No street names were spoken to 
> me as I went.  Did I forget some imperative setting?  Any help would be 
> greatly appreciated!  Thanks in advance!
> 
> Desi
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Re: Using Apple Maps For Exploring

[Alex Hall]

Yes, the screen needs to be on and Maps needs to be open, sorry I didn't make 
that as clear as I could have. Yes, there are definitely better, more 
descriptive solutions. I came late to this thread, and the message I saw stated 
that the native Maps app couldn't provide intersection announcements. I just 
wanted to set the record straight and say that it can in fact do this. 
Certainly, third-party apps can do it better, but Maps will do the job if you 
need it to in a pinch, or if you know your local area well and need only to 
know which street you are coming to, not necessarily what the intersection 
looks like.
> On Oct 20, 2015, at 21:27, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hello Alex,
> 
> While using the Tracking Plus Heading feature, in the native iOS Maps app,  
> will cause some intersections to be announced, along with directional 
> heading, if/when the screen turns off, announcements will cease.  
> 
> Also, the details of the intersection are not described as they would be, in 
> the Seeing Eye GPS app or on the new Humanware Trekker Breeze.
> 
> While I am not suggesting that one should not use the iOS native Maps app in 
> order to hear intersection announcements, I would argue that there are more 
> comprehensive GPS navigation solutions available for one to consider.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alex Hall
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 5:49 AM
> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
> Subject: Re: Using Apple Maps For Exploring
> 
> Apple Maps does do this, actually. In Maps, find the "tracking" button, and 
> double tap it until it is set to "on with headings". Now, so long as Maps is 
> open and the phone is unlocked, you'll hear streets and some POIs as you move.
>> On Oct 20, 2015, at 02:39, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Destene,
>> 
>> At present, I do not believe that Apple Maps will automatically announce 
>> intersections.  At one point, I would have gone so far as to state that such 
>> a feature is not likely to be forth coming but, after several discussions I 
>> had with others, Apple may, at some point, add such functionality.  
>> 
>> I use the Seeing Eye GPS app in order to hear automatic intersection 
>> announcements.
>> 
>> Mark  
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Destene Noller
>> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 3:33 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Using Apple Maps For Exploring
>> 
>> I have had extremely wonderful success using Apple Maps on my iPhone 6 to 
>> get driving directions, but now that the weather is getting wonderful again 
>> here in Phoenix, I'd like to go out walking and here streets announced as I 
>> go.  I tried this this afternoon but it didn't seem to work as I expected.  
>> I made sure to turn tracking on, but I didn't put in an ending location, 
>> because I didn't have a specific destination in mind.  No street names were 
>> spoken to me as I went.  Did I forget some imperative setting?  Any help 
>> would be greatly appreciated!  Thanks in advance!
>> 
>> Desi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Wait loss and exercise tracking apps question

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Thanks, that helps. I guess I'll wait until syncing is fixed then. No way I'll 
pay $50 per year, though, at least not right now. That seems like a whole lot 
of money for a food tracker.
> On Oct 19, 2015, at 20:30, Deb Lewis <deblewi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> There is lots on their forum about people having syncing difficulties.
> I did a support ticket on it and they saw it happening in my account
> but because I didn't pay for a $49 subscription, nothing is happening.
> I told them if something does happen to fx this, I'd definitely be
> glad to pay the $49. But not paying for something that is broken.
> Apparently the problem exists on both iOS and Android. For me it's
> between the Iphone app, the Health App and the web site which I use on
> the PC. You can do much more from the web than you can from the phone.
> If you use the web site, it's useful to invoke data tables for
> whatever screen reader. Otherwise there's not an easy way to move
> through the meal planner. There are better apps but not more
> accessible.
> 
> On 10/19/15, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> I've been considering My Fitness Pal. Has anyone else found syncing
>> problems? I love having HealthKit take care of storing everything so other
>> apps can grab/update that data as necessary, and I know the app can now
>> import recipes if you do a lot of cooking at home as my family does. If it
>> has serious HealthKit syncing problems, especially doubling/omitting data,
>> that might be a show-stopper.
>>> On Oct 19, 2015, at 17:12, SSEric <sseri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have used My Fitness Pal and I don't believe it had any accessibility
>>> issues.
>>> 
>>> In case you don't know it and you plan walking, look at iTreadmill. It is
>>> good for measuring time distance or calories burned and keeping record.
>>> You
>>> can walk to music on your device. I have not seen it updated in a long
>>> time,
>>> so I am guessing it is still available.
>>> 
>>> Eric
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> Of david gross
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>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Wait loss and exercise tracking apps question
>>> 
>>> I am working with a health coach over the phone with my health insurance
>>> plan. She has suggested the lose it app and my fitness partner app. Has
>>> anyone use these, are they accessible question can anyone offer a more
>>> accessible app that can work with voiceover question
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Re: Wait loss and exercise tracking apps question

[Alex Hall]

I've been considering My Fitness Pal. Has anyone else found syncing problems? I 
love having HealthKit take care of storing everything so other apps can 
grab/update that data as necessary, and I know the app can now import recipes 
if you do a lot of cooking at home as my family does. If it has serious 
HealthKit syncing problems, especially doubling/omitting data, that might be a 
show-stopper.
> On Oct 19, 2015, at 17:12, SSEric <sseri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have used My Fitness Pal and I don't believe it had any accessibility
> issues.
> 
> In case you don't know it and you plan walking, look at iTreadmill. It is
> good for measuring time distance or calories burned and keeping record. You
> can walk to music on your device. I have not seen it updated in a long time,
> so I am guessing it is still available.
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of david gross
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 1:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Wait loss and exercise tracking apps question
> 
> I am working with a health coach over the phone with my health insurance
> plan. She has suggested the lose it app and my fitness partner app. Has
> anyone use these, are they accessible question can anyone offer a more
> accessible app that can work with voiceover question
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Default mailing app. Can it be customised?

[Alex Hall]

Possibly deleting is the culprit. Try using the edit option instead; hit the 
edit button, then do the swiping left thing to start at the bottom. Double tap 
the messages to delete, then use the delete button to get rid of them all. As I 
said, I've never tried this because I can't see the benefit of reading my mail 
from oldest to newest.
> On Oct 16, 2015, at 10:21, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Alex,
> So, I've tried your suggestion below just now. I touch the bottom of the 
> screen. When on the last message, I delete it. When I do that, it loses 
> focus. Meaning, it goes to the top. Is this a bug, or am I missing something 
> here? So, I have 40 messages. I scroll down, do a read all. To delete the 
> message, I have to scroll to the bottom again. Why's that?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Alex Hall  <mehg...@icloud.com>
> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Monday, October 12, 2015 7:35 pm
> Subject: Re: Default mailing app. Can it be customised?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> No, but you can easily read from bottom to top if you want to. Just touch 
>> the bottom left button, then swipe left once, and you're on the last 
>> message.. No need to scroll anything. Then just keep moving left instead of 
>> right, and that should do it. I've never done this, as oldest to newest 
>> makes no sense to me, so there may be problems I don't know about. I'd also 
>> imagine it's different on an iPad, but the principle is the same. If you can 
>> come at a table while swiping left instead of right, VO will focus on the 
>> last item instead of the first.
>>> On Oct 12, 2015, at 11:23, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I prefer reading messages from oldest to newest. Unfortunately, the IPad 
>>> doesn't agree, it thinks reading from newest to oldest is a better idea. Is 
>>> there a way to change it? If so, how, please? If not, a quick way to stay 
>>> at the bottom? 
>>> 
>>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
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Huge VO improvements in iWork apps

[Alex Hall]

Hello all,
Apple has just dropped updates for iWork apps for iOS and OS X. Among the 
expected iOS9/El Cap improvements, they've included a *lot* of VoiceOver 
features. Read presenter notes in Keynote, manage charts in Pages, get text 
formatting details on iOS, manage comments in shared files on Mac, and more. 
This is great news!
http://9to5mac.com/2015/10/15/iwork-ios-9-os-x-el-capitan/


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Re: Automatic updates App Store

[Alex Hall]

You don't, but updates will often take a while. I think they only happen when 
the phone is charging, but I could be wrong. Either way, they aren't checked 
for very often, so it's easy to open the App Store and kick off an update check 
well ahead of when iOS was going to do it. This makes it look like automatic 
updates aren't happening, but they are, just less often than manual ones might 
make it appear.
> On Oct 14, 2015, at 18:56, Marissa Solaun <solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Wondering why with automatic downloads turned on I have to still go to 
> updates section  and do updates manually . 
> 
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Re: Default mailing app. Can it be customised?

[Alex Hall]

No, but you can easily read from bottom to top if you want to. Just touch the 
bottom left button, then swipe left once, and you're on the last message. No 
need to scroll anything. Then just keep moving left instead of right, and that 
should do it. I've never done this, as oldest to newest makes no sense to me, 
so there may be problems I don't know about. I'd also imagine it's different on 
an iPad, but the principle is the same. If you can come at a table while 
swiping left instead of right, VO will focus on the last item instead of the 
first.
> On Oct 12, 2015, at 11:23, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I prefer reading messages from oldest to newest. Unfortunately, the IPad 
> doesn't agree, it thinks reading from newest to oldest is a better idea. Is 
> there a way to change it? If so, how, please? If not, a quick way to stay at 
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Re: Difference between 6S and 6 Plus

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The Plus also includes optical image stabilization, but reviews seem to suggest 
that that's really only helpful for video. OCR apps may not benefit from it 
enough to bother with.

However, the extra screen can't be discounted. You get landscape apps, for 
those that support it, offering split views in Settings or Mail and actual tabs 
in Safari. You also get more room for webpages, if you explore by touch, or for 
maps.
> On Oct 12, 2015, at 19:22, Cristóbal <crismuno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The Plus has a much bigger battery. Other than that, it's really just screen 
> size. 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Joe
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 4:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Difference between 6S and 6 Plus
> 
> Hi, can anyone speak to the difference between the s and the Plus in this
> latest product line for the iPhone? I mean, other than screen size? Any
> preference other than the extra screen real estate? Thanks.
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Re: Difference between 6S and 6 Plus

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By all accounts, significant. I regularly hear people bragging about getting a 
day to a day and a half of use out of a Plus, while the 6 is lucky to get to 
the end of an active day without needing to be charged. Your milage will 
certainly vary, based on usage, screen brightness, cell signal strength, 
activity, and more, but the general consensus seems to be that the Plus is very 
noticeably better in the battery department.
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2014/09/iphone-6-plus-vs-iphone-6-vs-iphone-5s-vs-iphone-5-vs-iphone-4s-battery-life.html
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> How significant is the difference in battery life between the two?
>  
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> Hi, can anyone speak to the difference between the s and the Plus in this
> latest product line for the iPhone? I mean, other than screen size? Any
> preference other than the extra screen real estate? Thanks.
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Re: Difference between 6S and 6 Plus

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It's really down to what's important. If you're a heavy user and you already 
use two hands to operate your phone, the Plus is a great option. If you're used 
to one-handed operation and a heavy user, maybe consider getting used to a 
different way of operating the phone and still opt for the Plus. If you're not 
a heavy user, you can get along just fine with the smaller devices. Most cell 
providers and retailers will let you return/trade your new phone within a 
certain amount of time, so you could always try one and see what happens. If 
you still hate it after two weeks, no matter which one it is, you can switch to 
the other one.
> On Oct 12, 2015, at 23:28, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> X don't focus on the battery life too much. The bigger screen doesn't work 
> and everyone's favor as a voiceover user especially if you use your device 
> one-handed. X my iPhone 6s can last the whole day iny mild  use.
> 
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> On Oct 12, 2015, at 8:13 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
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>> By all accounts, significant. I regularly hear people bragging about getting 
>> a day to a day and a half of use out of a Plus, while the 6 is lucky to get 
>> to the end of an active day without needing to be charged. Your milage will 
>> certainly vary, based on usage, screen brightness, cell signal strength, 
>> activity, and more, but the general consensus seems to be that the Plus is 
>> very noticeably better in the battery department.
>> http://www.iphonehacks.com/2014/09/iphone-6-plus-vs-iphone-6-vs-iphone-5s-vs-iphone-5-vs-iphone-4s-battery-life.html
>>  
>> <http://www.iphonehacks.com/2014/09/iphone-6-plus-vs-iphone-6-vs-iphone-5s-vs-iphone-5-vs-iphone-4s-battery-life.html>
>>> On Oct 12, 2015, at 19:25, Crystal French <raincrow...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:raincrow...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>> How significant is the difference in battery life between the two?
>>>  
>>> Crystal
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>>> Subject: Difference between 6S and 6 Plus
>>>  
>>> Hi, can anyone speak to the difference between the s and the Plus in this
>>> latest product line for the iPhone? I mean, other than screen size? Any
>>> preference other than the extra screen real estate? Thanks.
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Re: back to previous app button?

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It takes the place of the left items on the status bar, left of the time. 
However, it is *not* always present. Instead, it appears if you do something 
that takes you from one app to another. Tap a link in an email, and Safari 
opens, but the button appears in your status bar, letting you go back to Mail. 
The same thing happens if you're in an app, open the Notification Center, and 
open a notification so you land in a new app. This won't work from the home 
screen, because there's nothing to go back to in that case, or if you manually 
switch apps through the home screen or app switcher.
> On Oct 11, 2015, at 11:53, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> 
> Sandy, Since I only have an iPhone 6s, I cannot check if this is a 9.02 
> feature or not. However, I love this feature. It is at top left between 
> status bar and what would be back button or first line. Edge of screen. You 
> will need to, or should I say I needed to, poke around to find it. I found 
> quite by accident, but a great feature.
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Oct 11, 2015, at 11:40 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
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> hi,
> I have recently upgraded to 9.02 on my iPhone six. I was under the impression 
> that one of the new features was an ever present back button in the status 
> line with which one could go back to the app you were in just before. thus 
> obviating the need for using the app switcher. was I wrong? Perhaps it 
> doesn't work on an iPhone 6? Or where is it?
> Thanks in advance, Sandy
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Re: selecting text, a new way?

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First, go to VoiceOver's settings, then Rotor, and add 'text selection' if it 
isn't already. Now, in any place you can select text, rotor to 'text 
selection'. Swipe up or down to change how much to select by, then right to 
select or left to de-select. This means you have to navigate to the start of 
your selection before you can select it, which is annoying--no selecting to the 
left. Still, the method is far preferable to pinching.
> On Oct 11, 2015, at 12:02, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hey all, I heard there is a new way to select text? True? If so, steps, 
> please! Never have gotten the pinch gesture correct. Perhaps it is my lack of 
> dexterity, but I am hoping Apple has actually given us a new way to do this.
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Re: VOICE over ignoring punctuation marks?

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I have to say, I've never experienced this. I use Samantha or one of the 
American Siri voices all the time, between 75 and 85 percent, and I use Alex on 
my Mac. so I have a lot of experience at the speed you're using. I suppose it's 
something you get used to, because it's something I've never picked up on.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 10, 2015, at 04:27, Rajmund  wrote:
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> Hello All,
> So, let me just try and explain this. As many of you know, and as my 
> signature suggests, am coming from note takers. So that's mainly things like 
> eloquence, and a few others. So here's my issue. And I know this will sound 
> like  I'm picky, but really. I have the note takers on the fastest speech 
> rate, and I find them too slow. With voice over, however, I find 75% too 
> slow, but if I increase it, I understand no word, if it reads a long passage, 
> but otherwise, too slow. So something like I had a nice day, though. And i 
> had a nice day though will sound the same. Its as if commas are completely 
> ignored , rather than insert a pause, etc. Guess its the emotion, or 
> something. Anyway, anyone noticed this? If so,  have you found a particular 
> voice that was better at it than others? I have so far tried Daniel, 
> Samantha, Female British Siri, and just trying Alex. But if someone does know 
> of something, please, tell  me about it? Or do you just eventually get used 
> to it?
> 
> PS. When I say increased, I mean something like 80%, and its too quick. 
> Otherwise,,  too slow. And I do get a headache from slow speech rates.
> Anyway, many thanks!
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Re: My iPhone keeps losing my Gmail password.

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Do you use two-factor authentication on Gmail, and thus an app-specific 
password for iOS Mail? If so, that might be why. In fact, my Mac kept doing 
that, and that was one reason I finally gave in and went to iCloud Mail, a 
decision I haven't once regretted.

I think iOS9 includes support for two-factor authentication for Gmail and a few 
other services, but I might be wrong. Still, it's worth a web search if you do, 
in fact, use 2FA for Gmail.
> On Oct 9, 2015, at 08:42, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
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> I'm running iOS 8.4 on an iPhone 4S. Every once-in-a-while, the mail app will 
> flip out and say that I need to reenter my password. Closing the mail app and 
> restarting it does nothing. Does anyone have any ideas as to why this might 
> be happening?
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Re: Braille Screen Input was Apps nicer on iPhone than iPad and vice versa?

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Just FYI, the orientation lock switch has nothing to do with locking 
orientation in BSI. The switch or Control Center lock is for screen 
orientation--going from landscape to portrait or vice versa. The BSI lock is 
for keeping BSI in table or away mode; BSI switches to landscape no matter 
what, so there's room to type. On the iPad it might not, but it does on the 
phone or iPod.
> On Oct 9, 2015, at 14:41, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hello,
> I have the orientation switch locked in land scape, in the first place. I use 
> uncontracted, though, so that I get the character echo feedback. Which is 
> fine by Me, I have always been a  computer braille guy, if you know what it 
> is? Even if not, I truly love braille screen input, although its strange, at 
> first. 
> 
> - Original Message -
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 9, 2015 6:56 pm
> Subject: Braille Screen Input was Re: Apps nicer on iPhone than iPad and vice 
> versa?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> I use Braille Screen Input as well, worked good in iOS 8 but is better 
>> in iOS 9 especially now we can lock the orientation of the keyboard, 
>> it's also more accurate as well.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 09/10/2015 18:46, Rajmund wrote:
>>> Hello  Alan,
>>> LOL, I know its not for everyone, but use  braille screen input. Yes, you 
>>> do get the odd errors, but for me, it works,  and works well,  in fact.
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Re: Braille Screen Input was Apps nicer on iPhone than iPad and vice versa?

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That's a three-finger swipe up or down. Either direction will toggle the lock 
on or off. Get the device into the orientation you prefer, then three-finger 
swipe up or down once. To unlock it, do the same thing.
> On Oct 9, 2015, at 15:33, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hello,
> Sorry about that, thought it would  keep keyboards in 1 position, too. How do 
> I lock the keyboard?  
> 
> - Original Message -
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> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Friday, October 9, 2015 8:07 pm
> Subject: Re: Braille Screen Input was Apps nicer on iPhone than iPad and vice 
> versa?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Just FYI, the orientation lock switch has nothing to do with locking 
>> orientation in BSI. The switch or Control Center lock is for screen 
>> orientation--going from landscape to portrait or vice versa. The BSI lock is 
>> for keeping BSI in table or away mode; BSI switches to landscape no matter 
>> what, so there's room to type. On the iPad it might not, but it does on the 
>> phone or iPod.
>>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 14:41, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I have the orientation switch locked in land scape, in the first place. I 
>>> use uncontracted, though, so that I get the character echo feedback. Which 
>>> is fine by Me, I have always been a  computer braille guy, if you know what 
>>> it is? Even if not, I truly love braille screen input, although its 
>>> strange, at first. 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: chris  <challswor...@icloud.com>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Friday, October 9, 2015 6:56 pm
>>> Subject: Braille Screen Input was Re: Apps nicer on iPhone than iPad and 
>>> vice versa?
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> I use Braille Screen Input as well, worked good in iOS 8 but is better 
>>>> in iOS 9 especially now we can lock the orientation of the keyboard, 
>>>> it's also more accurate as well.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 09/10/2015 18:46, Rajmund wrote:
>>>>> Hello  Alan,
>>>>> LOL, I know its not for everyone, but use  braille screen input. Yes, you 
>>>>> do get the odd errors, but for me, it works,  and works well,  in fact.
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Re: My iPhone keeps losing my Gmail password.

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Okay then, you don't use two-factor authentication, probably. Have you tried 
deleting the Gmail account from the phone and adding it back in, starting it 
over from scratch?
> On Oct 9, 2015, at 09:21, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
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> I don't think so. I remember I had to change some security settings in Gmail 
> to get Outlook to play nice with things and actually grab my email. Do you 
> think that was related to 2-factor authentication? I use the same password to 
> access my Gmail on whatever computers I use—when using the web interface. I 
> don't have to put in any kind of second password there. 
> 
> Thanks,
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>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Do you use two-factor authentication on Gmail, and thus an app-specific 
>> password for iOS Mail? If so, that might be why. In fact, my Mac kept doing 
>> that, and that was one reason I finally gave in and went to iCloud Mail, a 
>> decision I haven't once regretted.
>> 
>> I think iOS9 includes support for two-factor authentication for Gmail and a 
>> few other services, but I might be wrong. Still, it's worth a web search if 
>> you do, in fact, use 2FA for Gmail.
>>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 08:42, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
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>>> I'm running iOS 8.4 on an iPhone 4S. Every once-in-a-while, the mail app 
>>> will flip out and say that I need to reenter my password. Closing the mail 
>>> app and restarting it does nothing. Does anyone have any ideas as to why 
>>> this might be happening?
>>> 
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Re: Help

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Sounds like your volume might be muted. Once you're sure VO is on, go to a home 
screen and do a two-finger swipe up, to get VO reading. Then hit the volume up 
button repeatedly, and speech should soon return. If you can hear VoiceOver 
sounds, but no speech, do a three-finger double tap to check that speech isn't 
muted.
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 05:10, Deidre Muccio <deidreandlou...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Help! My phone is not working properly. My homepages are not reading. Siri 
> works just fine and will do anything I ask her to except I cannot read my 
> homepage or open or close apps none of those menus are reading even know 
> voiceover is on. That should have read that I turn voiceover on and off and 
> it seems to be working in general. I succeeded in powering the phone on and 
> then back like succeeded in turning the power off and then turning the phone 
> back on a little while later but that didn't solve the problem. I am 
> dictating this so please excuse me for the errors I'm not sure I can even 
> edit with the phone being malfunctioning at the moment. Is there a mute 
> button that lets say in tune in radio I hit that then is applying that meet 
> feature to all other functions?
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Re: A few questions

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As to seconds, I don't think you can do that. It's odd not to have them, when 
you come from a notetaker, but it honestly becomes a non-issue very quickly. If 
you need exact timing, open up the Clock app and use the Stopwatch tab to track 
time.
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 12:16, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> In fact, the switch unmutes and mutes the ringer, and allert sounds. In 
> settings, you can change this to lock and unlock orientation.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 1) is there a  way to get the clock to show seconds? 2) there's a button 
>> between the power button, and the volume buttons on the IPad. If I flick it, 
>> it says muted, or unmuted. 1) what does it mean? 2) is there a way to change 
>> the behavior of it? If so, how, please? 
>> 
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Re: Voice Dream Reader

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Voice Dream's settings have a section for all your accounts, among them 
Bookshare. After checking that your details are correct in there, you can just 
try force-quitting the app. Every so often, VDR will do this same thing to me, 
but if I close the app and/or restart my phone, it goes away. It's a rare 
problem, but it has happened.
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> Hi, Ever since I updated my phone to ios 9 plus, when I am in Voice Dream 
> Reader and want to add a book from bookshare, I get an error.  The error is 
> either my username or password is incorrect.  Both username and password is 
> fine.  I can download books from the Website on my computer and add it to 
> dropbox and get it to Voice Dream that way.  Sometimes it is better to be 
> able to get a book via the Voice Dream app so, how would I be able to clear 
> this?  I never had to add the password for bookshare within voice dream.  If 
> this does need to be done, where would I have to do this?  Thanks so much.  
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Re: A few questions

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Just FYI, you can also lock the orientation from your control center, leaving 
your side switch free to mute/unmute if you want to.
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 15:12, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hello,
> So my thought was right! Yea! Thanks! No more flipping about.
> 
> - Original Message -
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> Date: Thursday, October 8, 2015 8:05 pm
> Subject: Re: A few questions
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>> 
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> When you lock the orientation, the device is locked to that orientation 
>> regardless of how you hold the device.
>> 
>> On 08/10/2015 19:40, Rajmund wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> THANKS, I got it. I tend to use it in land scape. Does it mean that it will 
>>> stay in land scape, for good, because I locked the orientation? Or what 
>>> does it actually mean?
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: chris  <challswor...@icloud.com>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Thursday, October 8, 2015 7:23 pm
>>> Subject: Re: A few questions
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> No not for the first question, yes for the second. The side switch by
>>>> default mutes or unmutes system sounds. That is all sounds except for
>>>> VoiceOver and sounds from apps such as the stock Music app. Having said
>>>> that sounds produced by apps like games may or may not be muted
>>>> depending on the app. To change this behaviour go to settings > general
>>>> and it's in the "use slide switch to" heading.
>>>> 
>>>> On 08/10/2015 17:02, Rajmund wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 1) is there a  way to get the clock to show seconds? 2) there's a button 
>>>>> between the power button, and the volume buttons on the IPad. If I flick 
>>>>> it, it says muted, or unmuted. 1) what does it mean? 2) is there a way to 
>>>>> change the behavior of it? If so, how, please?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from a Braille Sense
>>>>> 
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Re: iPad Air Blanks out

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This is a known bug in iOS9 that seems to only happen to VoiceOver users (lucky 
us). Here's hoping for a fix in the next incremental update.
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 12:22, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hello Alan, 
> I have, but I blamed IMAP for it. Is it a bug, after all?
> 
> Sent from an  IPad
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>> On 7 Oct 2015, at 4:29 p.m., Alan Paganelli <alanandsuza...@earthlink.net> 
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>> Hi All,
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>> I'm running the latest version of iOS on my iPad Air.  One thing that I'm 
>> noticing is when I send mail, my screen blanks out until the message has 
>> been sent.  By blanking out I mean that I can touch the screen and remains 
>> silent no matter where on the screen I touch and the typing keys on my 
>> keyboard remain silent as well.  I'll hear the sent mail sound and all 
>> returns to normal.  Has anybody else experienced this as well?
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Re: need help!

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The item chooser (two-finger triple tap on the touch screen) lists all the 
items on the screen, and offers a search field to filter them. You can use it 
to quickly locate something in a long list, or find something on a webpage very 
quickly. It's not useful very often, but it's nice to have when it is needed.
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> hello everyone,
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> since I am braille user, few times I hit this accidently, and I notice 
> something. can yo explan what does chord-I (space bar plus dot 2-4) and I did 
> try to test it, but I don’t understand. anyone give me explanation what this 
> has to do?
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> space bar-I is item chooser. what does this mean? how would this help us? 
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Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, indeed?

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Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, indeed?

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If this is specifically in Safari, that might be because the letter you type 
isn't a navigation command. Typing H will move by headings, and you'd swipe 
down or up to then move by heading. L is links, or I is images, you get the 
idea. Anything that doesn't map to something by which you can move will be 
unrecognized. If your focus is in a text field and a keyboard is displayed on 
the screen, BSI will type text into that field and won't navigate, otherwise it 
will.
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 16:35, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hello Alex,
> I go somewhere like Safari, turn the rotor, and I get into braille screen 
> input. From time to time, as I said, works like a charm. But at others, it 
> doesn't recognise the keys at all, or says not recognised. If I turn the 
> rotor, touch screen input works, instantly.
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> Subject: Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, 
> indeed?
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>> 
>> I have no trouble with it. What, specifically, is not working when you have 
>> trouble with it?
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Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, indeed?

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Can you explain more? I've been using this feature for over a year, ever since 
iOS8.0, and it has really been one of the biggest game-changers in iOS that I 
can remember. My only problem is how, sometimes, a space turns into a dot 4 if 
I swipe wrong--I wish I could adjust the sensitivity of that gesture like I can 
in mBraille. Aside from that, I've never had any major problems, especially now 
in 9.x. Is there anything I could watch for, or specific steps I could try, to 
reproduce the problems you all are having?
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 15:47, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> "i have noticed this for quite some time as I either use the keyboard or 
> mBraille. However, some days the touch of the screen is extremely unreliable 
> and some days it is like pushing on an old typewriter. Today it is junk. 
> Every app or email on the keyboard or even in mBraille is like typing on 
> mush. I just do not get it, but I keep plugging away with it since I love the 
> phone. By the way, This is not limited to 9.02. I thought 9.02 was better 
> until today. So I'll keep plugging along. [smiley) 
> 
> reggie & Lex
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Re: How do I find the comma on the phone keypad to enter a pause?

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There's a shift key in the lower left. Hit that, and 4 becomes a comma, six a 
period, 0 a plus. Hit shift again to return to normal.
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> I'm trying to set up a phone number with a pause for an extension, but can't 
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> Can someone please tell me how to do this? I find only the Delete, Star, 
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Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, indeed?

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I have no trouble with it. What, specifically, is not working when you have 
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Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, indeed?

[Alex Hall]

You can do that. Just move BSI to the very first slot in your rotor, and it'll 
follow you again. There's no way to set it to be your default keyboard, at 
least not yet, but please do email Apple Accessibility and ask for that to 
become a setting.
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 16:58, Nicki keck <jesusgir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Oh I love braille screen input!  It has been a game changer for me.  I only 
> wish I could get it to follolw me around the rotor like I could in IOS 8.  I 
> thoguht Applevis said there was a way to set it to do that again, but I can’t 
> find it.  I wish there was a way you could select it as your keyboard all the 
> time so that whenever you double tap on a text field, braille screen input 
> would pop up.  that kind of setting would be so neat!
>  
> My only problem is when I do the space it sometimes thinks for some reason I 
> am swiping down and so selects another word and I have to go back up or 
> backspace over the word and change it back.  It doesn’t happen often, but it 
> does sometimes.
>  
> From: Alex Hall <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2015 4:27 PM
> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, 
> indeed?
>  
> Can you explain more? I've been using this feature for over a year, ever 
> since iOS8.0, and it has really been one of the biggest game-changers in iOS 
> that I can remember. My only problem is how, sometimes, a space turns into a 
> dot 4 if I swipe wrong--I wish I could adjust the sensitivity of that gesture 
> like I can in mBraille. Aside from that, I've never had any major problems, 
> especially now in 9.x. Is there anything I could watch for, or specific steps 
> I could try, to reproduce the problems you all are having?
>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 15:47, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>>  
>> "i have noticed this for quite some time as I either use the keyboard or 
>> mBraille. However, some days the touch of the screen is extremely unreliable 
>> and some days it is like pushing on an old typewriter. Today it is junk. 
>> Every app or email on the keyboard or even in mBraille is like typing on 
>> mush. I just do not get it, but I keep plugging away with it since I love 
>> the phone. By the way, This is not limited to 9.02. I thought 9.02 was 
>> better until today. So I'll keep plugging along. [smiley) 
>> 
>> reggie & Lex
>> 
>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:brajmund2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> Is braille screen input in IOS9.02 really temporary, or am I missing 
>> something here? One day it feels like the braille sense, the other, its as 
>> if the screen wasn't working, but it is working. 
>> 
>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
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Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, indeed?

[Alex Hall]

External keyboards and displays are indeed going a bit nuts in the 9.0.x 
releases. I've not heard of the onscreen keyboard, braille or otherwise, doing 
anything odd, though, and that's what I'm confused about.

As to Mbraille, it used to be:
.debug s [number]
where number is 18 to some maximum, maybe 40? Either way, the lower the number, 
the shorter the flick to get a space. I normally liked 19 or 20 personally.
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 18:50, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> RAJMUND, it's well documented that both keyboards and Braille displays are 
> doing very weird things right now. sometimes they work, and sometimes they do 
> not! Apple don't seem to have got to the bottom of it, so we just have to 
>_ work around this  until they do smiley
> 
> 
> 
> Carol P
> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
> 
> On 4 Oct 2015, at 11:21 p.m., Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm still not following. What does it do/not do that makes it unreliable? Are 
> there certain apps or situations where it consistently fails, and others 
> where it works?
>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 17:55, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Alex,
>> Just go into braille input. If it works, awesome. But in my case, 
>> unfortunately, I can't rely on it. Is there a setting I should change?
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Alex Hall  <mehg...@icloud.com>
>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Date: Sunday, October 4, 2015 9:27 pm
>> Subject: Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, 
>> indeed?
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Can you explain more? I've been using this feature for over a year, ever 
>>> since iOS8.0, and it has really been one of the biggest game-changers in 
>>> iOS that I can remember. My only problem is how, sometimes, a space turns 
>>> into a dot 4 if I swipe wrong--I wish I could adjust the sensitivity of 
>>> that gesture like I can in mBraille. Aside from that, I've never had any 
>>> major problems, especially now in 9.x. Is there anything I could watch for, 
>>> or specific steps I could try, to reproduce the problems you all are having?
>>>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 15:47, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "i have noticed this for quite some time as I either use the keyboard or 
>>>> mBraille. However, some days the touch of the screen is extremely 
>>>> unreliable and some days it is like pushing on an old typewriter. Today it 
>>>> is junk. Every app or email on the keyboard or even in mBraille is like 
>>>> typing on mush. I just do not get it, but I keep plugging away with it 
>>>> since I love the phone. By the way, This is not limited to 9.02. I thought 
>>>> 9.02 was better until today. So I'll keep plugging along. [smiley) 
>>>> 
>>>> reggie & Lex
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:brajmund2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> Is braille screen input in IOS9.02 really temporary, or am I missing 
>>>> something here? One day it feels like the braille sense, the other, its as 
>>>> if the screen wasn't working, but it is working. 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
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Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, indeed?

[Alex Hall]

I'm still not following. What does it do/not do that makes it unreliable? Are 
there certain apps or situations where it consistently fails, and others where 
it works?
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 17:55, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Alex,
> Just go into braille input. If it works, awesome. But in my case, 
> unfortunately, I can't rely on it. Is there a setting I should change?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Alex Hall  <mehg...@icloud.com>
> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Sunday, October 4, 2015 9:27 pm
> Subject: Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, 
> indeed?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Can you explain more? I've been using this feature for over a year, ever 
>> since iOS8.0, and it has really been one of the biggest game-changers in iOS 
>> that I can remember. My only problem is how, sometimes, a space turns into a 
>> dot 4 if I swipe wrong--I wish I could adjust the sensitivity of that 
>> gesture like I can in mBraille. Aside from that, I've never had any major 
>> problems, especially now in 9.x. Is there anything I could watch for, or 
>> specific steps I could try, to reproduce the problems you all are having?
>>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 15:47, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "i have noticed this for quite some time as I either use the keyboard or 
>>> mBraille. However, some days the touch of the screen is extremely 
>>> unreliable and some days it is like pushing on an old typewriter. Today it 
>>> is junk. Every app or email on the keyboard or even in mBraille is like 
>>> typing on mush. I just do not get it, but I keep plugging away with it 
>>> since I love the phone. By the way, This is not limited to 9.02. I thought 
>>> 9.02 was better until today. So I'll keep plugging along. [smiley) 
>>> 
>>> reggie & Lex
>>> 
>>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:brajmund2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> Is braille screen input in IOS9.02 really temporary, or am I missing 
>>> something here? One day it feels like the braille sense, the other, its as 
>>> if the screen wasn't working, but it is working. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
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Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, indeed?

[Alex Hall]

e phone. By the way, This is not limited to 9.02. I thought 
>>> 9.02 was better until today. So I'll keep plugging along. [smiley) 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> reggie & Lex
>>> 
>>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> Is braille screen input in IOS9.02 really temporary, or am I missing 
>>> something here? One day it feels like the braille sense, the other, its as 
>>> if the screen wasn't working, but it is working. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
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Re: Braille Screen input

[Alex Hall]

If you mean braille screen input, the system was introduced in iOS8 and hasn't 
changed since. I wonder if your braille code might have gotten changed? Have a 
look in VoiceOver's settings, then Braille, to be sure all is how you want it 
to be.
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 17:28, Patti Johnson <pattigj1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I guess I have scrambled brains or something.
> I just can't get how to put in stuff in edit fields any more, with IOS 7 and 
> under it was simple.  Now I can't get anything to go in, no matter what I do, 
> can't get the dot and at sign to go and stay in, no matter which mode I'm in.
> I have a hard time remembering what the differences are in the braille modes, 
> and it just isn't working for me.  I keep hoping wiht the latest upgrades it 
> will be easier but I don't know.
> I must have dyslexia or something.
> Just saying, some of you all seem to have got this stuff and I just don't 
> know why I can't grasp it.
> 
> Patti
> 
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Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, indeed?

[Alex Hall]

You said the 6S; have you contacted Apple? You have 30 days of full support 
after time of delivery, and if your screen is doing weird things, I'd 
absolutely contact them. Braille is working perfectly here, and I've not heard 
of others having these problems that you and Raymond are describing. If it were 
me, I'd give Apple's primary support line a call (1 800 My Apple) and see what 
they can do, and/or head to a local Apple Store if you have one near by.
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 19:01, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Anytime input is needed like email, messages, Safari, and today I must have 
> just barely touched the screen and it put me in a folder I was not trying to 
> go into. Yesterday and since I got my 6s, everything on tha screen took a 
> little pressure to make workdd It is just as if the screen got sloppy and 
> won't reae all touches or parts of touches. You can see this on this mail and 
> I used mBraille which has been working flawlessly until today. I have even 
> reset the phone and done a hard reboot to no avail. Just something to put up 
> with. 
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 6:21 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
> 
> I'm still not following. What does it do/not do that makes it unreliable? Are 
> there certain apps or situations where it consistently fails, and others 
> where it works?
>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 17:55, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:brajmund2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Alex,
>> Just go into braille input. If it works, awesome. But in my case, 
>> unfortunately, I can't rely on it. Is there a setting I should change?
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Alex Hall  <mehg...@icloud.com <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>>
>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> Date: Sunday, October 4, 2015 9:27 pm
>> Subject: Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, 
>> indeed?
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Can you explain more? I've been using this feature for over a year, ever 
>>> since iOS8.0, and it has really been one of the biggest game-changers in 
>>> iOS that I can remember. My only problem is how, sometimes, a space turns 
>>> into a dot 4 if I swipe wrong--I wish I could adjust the sensitivity of 
>>> that gesture like I can in mBraille. Aside from that, I've never had any 
>>> major problems, especially now in 9.x. Is there anything I could watch for, 
>>> or specific steps I could try, to reproduce the problems you all are having?
>>>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 15:47, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "i have noticed this for quite some time as I either use the keyboard or 
>>>> mBraille. However, some days the touch of the screen is extremely 
>>>> unreliable and some days it is like pushing on an old typewriter. Today it 
>>>> is junk. Every app or email on the keyboard or even in mBraille is like 
>>>> typing on mush. I just do not get it, but I keep plugging away with it 
>>>> since I love the phone. By the way, This is not limited to 9.02. I thought 
>>>> 9.02 was better until today. So I'll keep plugging along. [smiley) 
>>>> 
>>>> reggie & Lex
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:brajmund2...@gmail.com> <mailto:brajmund2...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:brajmund2...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> Is braille screen input in IOS9.02 really temporary, or am I missing 
>>>> something here? One day it feels like the braille sense, the other, its as 
>>>> if the screen wasn't working, but it is working. 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
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Re: Issue With Aftershokz Bluez II and iphone 6 Since Updating

[Alex Hall]

I've found that VO has some audio routing problems. Turn the Aftershokz off and 
back on, or don't turn them on until after VO is up and speaking, and it should 
work normally. Please also report this to Apple.
> On Oct 2, 2015, at 00:07, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> It used to be that I could turn on my Aftershokz Bluez headset while my 
> iphone was booting up, and when the iphone came to the home screen audio 
> would come through the headset. Ever since iupdated to IOS 9 The headset says 
> that it is connected, but the iphone comes up with audio coming through its 
> speaker. When I go into settings, bluetooth, it shows the device as being 
> connected. When I go into the app switcher there is a button that says 
> something like Aftershokz Bluez II connected to music. I wonder what’s going 
> on, and what I need to do to get the audio to come through the headset. The 
> only way I can accomplish this now is to wait for the phone to boot up and 
> then turn on the headset.
>  
> Andy
> I'm not wearing a diaper, so don't try to change me.
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Re: Possible iOS 9 and Bluetooth Keyboard Fix

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Go figure, it didn't work here at all. This is one of the strangest bugs I've 
seen in a long time. :)
> On Sep 28, 2015, at 13:37, Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> That worked! I had screen curtain on, and when I turned it off, I can type 
> now. Thanks Chris.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
> On Sep 28, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca 
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>> Hi folks.
>> 
>> For those of you who are having trouble typing in edit fields with your 
>> external keyboards, try this.
>> 
>> Go into an edit field and turn Screen Curtain off. I believe VO+SHIFT+S will 
>> do this.
>> 
>> I almost always have screen curtain on here, and never thought to try 
>> disabling it. When I turn screen curtain off, I can type just fine! Turn it 
>> back on, and I can't type at all again.
>> 
>> Jonathan, you wern't having this problem. By any chance, do you ever turn 
>> screen curtain on?
>> 
>> Chris
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iPhone 5 shows as 5S in my account

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
Soon, hopefully, I'll be trading my iPhone 5 in for a 6S Plus. Before I do, I 
want to remove the 5 from my account. In looking into that, I've discovered 
something weird: the name is "Alex's iPhone 5", but the device type is 5S, not 
5. This is obviously wrong, but will it cause problems when I go to remove the 
iPhone? Is there anything I should do about this? Thanks for any information.

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Re: Command +tab not working for me

[Alex Hall]

Sadly, this seems to work only on iPads, not iPhones or iPods. I have no idea 
why that is, and it's incredibly frustrating, but that's what seems to be the 
case for now I'd suggest emailing Apple, or using www.apple.com/feedback to 
tell them you want this feature in *all* iOS devices. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2015, at 23:37, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> Doing a quick review of vo bt keyboard commands in apple's documentation it 
> states that one can cycle through open apps using command +tab or command 
> +shift+tab. I could not make this work with my bt keyboard. Does it work for 
> any of you? 
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> Best,
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Re: Flying Ruler it works

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Re: Editing with native notes app

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The rotor includes an item called 'edit', but it's for copying, pasting, and 
other formatting options. If you rotor to words, then swipe up or down, that 
will move you by words like you're trying to do. Characters and lines work the 
same way. Is that part of your rotor not working correctly in Notes?
> On Sep 26, 2015, at 19:39, Nancy Badger <nancybad...@icloud.com> wrote:
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> Alex,
> OK, I will try and explain this. Let's say I want to edit the sentence the 
> cow jumped over the moon. And the notes app, I can't get it to go word by 
> word. And email I know exactly how to make it go word by word and I know 
> exactly where the cursor is. In the notes app, it either goes to the 
> beginning or to the end. I have tried putting the rotor on edit, and it 
> doesn't seem to make any difference. I'm not sure how else to explain this. 
> Thanks for any help you can provide.
> Nancy
> 
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>> On Sep 26, 2015, at 4:17 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
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>> Can you explain a bit more what happens? Notes works the same as any other 
>> app as far as editing text goes; are you running into problems across the 
>> rest of iOS9? If not, what is going on in Notes specifically that's giving 
>> you trouble?
>>> On Sep 26, 2015, at 15:26, Nancy Badger <nancybad...@icloud.com> wrote:
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>>> Hello,
>>> I am having trouble with the native notes app. I thought that it was 
>>> supposed to be much better after the new upgrade. If I write a note and 
>>> then I want to delete part of the note, I have trouble getting my voiceover 
>>> cursor to tell me where it is, and to maintain focus so I can hit the 
>>> delete button. Am I missing something? I have tried this with both the 
>>> iPhone keypad and with my wired keypad. The results are the same. Any help 
>>> would be greatly appreciated.
>>> 
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Re: Editing with native notes app

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Can you explain a bit more what happens? Notes works the same as any other app 
as far as editing text goes; are you running into problems across the rest of 
iOS9? If not, what is going on in Notes specifically that's giving you trouble?
> On Sep 26, 2015, at 15:26, Nancy Badger <nancybad...@icloud.com> wrote:
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> Hello,
> I am having trouble with the native notes app. I thought that it was supposed 
> to be much better after the new upgrade. If I write a note and then I want to 
> delete part of the note, I have trouble getting my voiceover cursor to tell 
> me where it is, and to maintain focus so I can hit the delete button. Am I 
> missing something? I have tried this with both the iPhone keypad and with my 
> wired keypad. The results are the same. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
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Re: Problem writing special characters with "on-screen

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The problem is that, for users who don't use the feature, the delay used to be 
way too short. Many users were entering this alternative characters menu thing 
when they didn't want to, and it was frustrating to figure out for some, 
including some I worked with directly. Apple has now gone back the other way in 
terms of delay, which is great for the ones who don't need it but bad for those 
who do. It seems like the best solution would be a setting in VO's typing 
settings, letting you set how long iOS waits before showing you the alternative 
characters. Maybe worth an email to Apple Accessibility.
> On Sep 26, 2015, at 23:19, Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Oh, cool. I see I am too impatient. I got it to work indeedbut still think 
> it's a bit awkward to have to wait so long. 
> Thanks for helping me solve this. 
> 
> Ioana   
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 26, 2015, at 10:11 PM, Ron Pelletier <ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ioana,
>> 
>> That is the way I write my French accents.  It still works on my 5S with IOS 
>> 9.0.1 but it seems to take longer to activate. If you hold the letter for at 
>> least 3 or more seconds, the alternatives will show up and sliding does 
>> work.  Don't know if it will work on your 6 but it should since it works on 
>> my 5S.
>> 
>> 
>> Ron & Danvers
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 26, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm having a problem typing special characters on the "on-screen" keyboard. 
>>> Before ios 9 using touch-typing I could keep a finger on a letter and hear 
>>> 2 small beeps and announcement "Special characters available" and sliding 
>>> finger would go through the options. 
>>> Now nothing happens. Also double-tap and hold is not working. Is there any 
>>> new way of writing special characters I'm missing? Anyone else having this 
>>> issue? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ioana
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one like about the new update to ios901?)

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I don't use a bluetooth keyboard, so I can't test it. I posted these hints in 
hopes they might help someone who is experiencing the bug, who could then tell 
us. They seem very, very odd things to help a keyboard bug, but that doesn't 
mean they aren't worth a shot. Besides, they come from Apple, who must at least 
have an idea about what's going on. I wish I could provide more direct 
information.
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 12:15, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
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> Alex, did this work?
>  
> Carol P
>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Alex Hall <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>
>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 10:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one like about 
>> the new update to ios901?)
>> 
>> What Apple Accessibility told me was to toggle the screen curtain, as odd a 
>> suggestion at it sounds. If that doesn't help, lock then unlock the phone.
>>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 14:09, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
>>> <mailto:'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com>' via VIPhone 
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>>> Be sure to send that comment to Accessability because it's obviously quite 
>>> a messy loop where things can and do go wrong.
>>>  
>>> Carol P
>>>  
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Chris Smart <mailto:csma...@cogeco.ca>
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Cc: accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:42 PM
>>>> Subject: Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one like about 
>>>> the new update to ios901?)
>>>> 
>>>> hmm not here it isn't.
>>>> 
>>>> I thought forgetting then re-pairing with my external keyboard fixed the 
>>>> problem. Then, I toggled Voiceover off and back on, and things broke again.
>>>> 
>>>> Rebooting my phone fixed the probem allowing me to use the keyboard again.
>>>> 
>>>> But here's where it gets strange and quite frustrating.
>>>> 
>>>> I thought at this point I had come up with repeatable steps to break then 
>>>> fix this issue.
>>>> Forget/re-pair with device fixes, and turning VO off and back on breaks 
>>>> it. Reboot phone to fix.
>>>> But, running through that procedure to check its repeatability caused 
>>>> things to break again. Nothing I do is restoring functionality with my 
>>>> keyboard again, not re-pairing, not rebooting.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> At 03:51 PM 9/23/2015, you wrote:
>>>>> what does every one like about the new update.I think the blue tooth key 
>>>>> board ishue is fixed.
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

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My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek at, 
then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit of 
feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one like about the new update to ios901?)

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Erasing a stubborn iPhone 4

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Hi all,
I'll likely be trading in my iPhone 5 *and* iPhone 4 tomorrow for the 6S Plus. 
As part of that, I need to erase them and remove them from Find my iPhone, so 
they don't appear and Activation Lock can be disabled. The 5 is fine, it's the 
4 that's the problem.

I don't know what passcode I might have used, as all my usual ones are failing 
to unlock it. I know I set one, because VoiceOver is on and my normal settings 
(speech rate, etc) are present. I went to Find my iPhone on iCloud.com, but the 
4 isn't in the list of devices, which is really strange. Thus, I can't remotely 
erase it, and I can't unlock it to erase it locally. How do I (A) confirm that 
this phone is *not* on my iCloud account still, and (B) erase all content in 
preparation for trading it in? Thanks for any help, and sorry if you get this 
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Erasing iPhone 5, and removing it from my account?

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Hi all,
The iPhone 4 has been resolved--I'd lent it to my mother and forgotten, so that 
explains the different passcode.

Now I'm getting ready to erase my own iPhone, a 5, after doing a full backup. 
What I'm wondering is: will doing this remove it from my account? I ran into a 
situation last year where a client's iPad wouldn't activate because the 
previous owner had never taken the device off their account, so it thought it 
was stolen or something. I'm trading this iPhone to Verizon, but I still want 
to be sure I take it off my own account. I read some material that said erasing 
all content will handle this, by prompting for your Apple ID password during 
the process. However, the iPhone 4 I just erased--which had iOS7--gave me no 
such prompt, though I thought it should have. Given that, is there anything I 
should do to my 5 to get it ready? Will it remove itself automatically, even if 
it never asks for my password, or will it require something more from me I 
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Re: iCloud backup

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They should be safe in your iCloud backup, so long as VDR is set to back up, of 
course.
> On Sep 22, 2015, at 15:02, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com> wrote:
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> Will my books on Voice Dream Reader come back when restoring from iCloud 
> backup or only from iTunes backup?
> Thanks
> Harry
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>  
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> On 22 Sep 2015, at 19:56, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
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>> An iCloud backup will give you everything--apps and all their data, home 
>> screen layout, settings, all that. The only things it lacks are secure 
>> items. That is, it won't give you your wifi passwords, logins for apps, and 
>> so on. It will be unaffected by iCloud Keychain for Safari; what I mean is 
>> that your Facebook app, for instance, won't come up with you logged in. It 
>> will instead have you log in when you first open it, because iCloud backups 
>> don't contain login details like that. I hope this makes sense.
>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:29, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca 
>>> <mailto:csma...@cogeco.ca>> wrote:
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>>> Follow-up question:
>>> If one just backs up to the cloud regularly, not backing up using iTunes, 
>>> and needs to restore the phone at some future time, will they have to 
>>> manually download each app again from the App Store, then restore from the 
>>> last iCloud back up? Or, is iCloud smart enough to also get the App store 
>>> to redownload all apps?
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>>  
>>> At 06:00 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:
>>>> It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as contacts. For 
>>>> a true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will backup 
>>>> all your apps and data.
>>>>  
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [ 
>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Steve Sweeney
>>>> Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: iCloud backup
>>>>  
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its apps 
>>>> and data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts… tthe 
>>>> checked items in iCloud in settings?
>>>> Thx –Steve
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Re: Question about text messaging.

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It is the case. I imagine that iOS figures you replied, so you must have read 
the message or you wouldn't have replied to it.
> On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:07, Christina C. <blindmaclo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I am also able to mark a message as read if I use Siri to send a text message 
> to someone I have an unread message from. Somehow, after I use Siri to send 
> them a message, their previous text is no longer showing as unread. I am 
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Re: Problem with envoking Siri using the home button

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Re: Sending texts using the Iphone 5 using a bluetooth keyboard.

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This is an iOS9 bug, but it affects only some devices, as you're seeing. I 
don't know if forgetting the keyboard on your 5S would help? 
> On Sep 22, 2015, at 13:26, Terri Elliott <terrielli...@samobile.net> wrote:
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> 
> This is really weird.  When I try to text via email or via text the blue 
> toothe keyboards won't let me type a text.  All I get is a drumb noise so I 
> can't type in a text.  It works just fine on my Iphone 4 s but not with the 5 
> s.  Both devices are updated to ios9.  Any ideas or suggestions?  Powering 
> off the phone and turning it back on did not seem to solve the problem.  This 
> did not start doing this until today.  Thanks.
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Re: iCloud backup

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By default, all apps will back up to iCloud, as far as I know. The ones I turn 
off are the ones that save *all* of their content online anyway. Instapaper or 
Pocket, for instance, will pull all your articles, folders, and so on from the 
internet once you log in, so there's no sense backing them up. Same for 
Facebook, Messenger, Rooms, Twitter, Dice World, Skype, and others. Of course, 
I did all this back in the caveman days of early 2015, way back when I only had 
5GB of iCloud space. Now that I'm paying a buck a month for 50GB, I don't 
bother and let iCloud back up whatever it wants to. 
> On Sep 22, 2015, at 16:29, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
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> 
> Another question springs from that one:  Which apps should we check to enable 
> iCloud backup?
>  
> If in doubt I check mine, but am not always sure which to go for.
>  
> I guess the GPS apps that save POIs may be included ... or maybe not ...
>  
> Anyway, if anyone uses ones that definitely backup to iCloud, I'd like to 
> know.
>  
> Carol P
>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Alex Hall <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>
>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: iCloud backup
>> 
>> They should be safe in your iCloud backup, so long as VDR is set to back up, 
>> of course.
>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 15:02, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:ubupanora...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will my books on Voice Dream Reader come back when restoring from iCloud 
>>> backup or only from iTunes backup?
>>> Thanks
>>> Harry
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On 22 Sep 2015, at 19:56, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> An iCloud backup will give you everything--apps and all their data, home 
>>>> screen layout, settings, all that. The only things it lacks are secure 
>>>> items. That is, it won't give you your wifi passwords, logins for apps, 
>>>> and so on. It will be unaffected by iCloud Keychain for Safari; what I 
>>>> mean is that your Facebook app, for instance, won't come up with you 
>>>> logged in. It will instead have you log in when you first open it, because 
>>>> iCloud backups don't contain login details like that. I hope this makes 
>>>> sense.
>>>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:29, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca 
>>>>> <mailto:csma...@cogeco.ca>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Follow-up question:
>>>>> If one just backs up to the cloud regularly, not backing up using iTunes, 
>>>>> and needs to restore the phone at some future time, will they have to 
>>>>> manually download each app again from the App Store, then restore from 
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>>>>> store to redownload all apps?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> At 06:00 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:
>>>>>> It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as contacts. 
>>>>>> For a true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will 
>>>>>> backup all your apps and data.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [ 
>>>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of Steve Sweeney
>>>>>> Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Subject: iCloud backup
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its apps 
>>>>>> and data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts… 
>>>>>> tthe checked items in iCloud in settings?
>>>>>> Thx –Steve
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Re: Sending texts using the Iphone 5 using a bluetooth keyboard.

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Did you disconnect and reconnect, or forget the pairing completely? The former 
may not be enough, while the latter lets iOS start the process from scratch. In 
your bluetooth settings, find the keyboard, then swipe a finger right once to 
the "More Info" button. Double tap, choose "Forget Device", and double tap 
again, then confirm your action in the alert that appears. Re-pair the keyboard 
like it were the first time, and see if that fixes things. Sorry if this is 
what you already did; if it is, just ignore me. 
> On Sep 22, 2015, at 18:39, Terri Elliott <terrielli...@samobile.net> wrote:
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> Hi.  I tried that and I still can't text with the blue tooth keyboard.
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Re: Siri voice for voice over

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I have found the compact voice to be unchanged, so I just continue to use that. 
The full version does sound very odd, but so far, compact is okay.
> On Sep 22, 2015, at 08:32, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
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> 
> She doesn't sound too bad on regular use, but when you are editting, she 
> sounds like she has been drinking and smoking for 40 years and has a sore 
> throat on top of that.
> Pretty strange.
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 9:18 PM, Kathy Metters <ktpur...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Something is seriously wrong with the Samantha voice. Sounds like she had a 
>> very bad operation and it didn't go well. OS9 was not kind to her. Samantha 
>> sounds like she has an extreme case of laryngitis. She absolutely sounds 
>> awful! I guess we will have to learn to live with Siri, because living with 
>> Samantha is absolutely impossible.
>> 
>> Katie Lady Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 6:24 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I first upgraded my for S. And I tried both Siri voices and was very 
>>> unhappy, because of the really long pauses between sentences and lines. But 
>>> just recently, I bit the bullet and upgraded my 5S, which will soon be 
>>> replaced with a 6S, whenever T-Mobile gets them in ships one out to me.
>>> Since my favorite female voice is not available for reading Kindle books on 
>>> the iPhone, and since they have screwed it up on the android version of 
>>> Kendall, where you get unnatural pauses between lines with that same voice, 
>>> Kendra, I tried the Siri female voice. And I think I'm going to really try 
>>> to live with it. It is certainly better than Samantha. So for those of you 
>>> who don't care for Samantha, and have something faster than the four ss, 
>>> give it a try.
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Re: Trouble adjusting VO speaking rate on AppleWatch after update

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Have you tried the pass-through on the speech rate slider? Double tap and hold 
on the slider, then slowly move your finger left or right--left is slower, 
right is faster. It's not perfect, but it should work pretty well. Note that 
I'm not using the Watch app as I lack a Watch, but this gesture is standard for 
other sliders, so there's no reason it shouldn't work here.
> On Sep 21, 2015, at 19:56, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
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> Hi,
> 
> Updated to Watch os2 without apparent problem. After, VO speaking rate seemed 
> slower, but Applewatch app indicates 50%.
> 
> Tried to flick up or down in AppleWatch app on the iPhone, but can't seem to 
> make any progress. Any hints?
> 
> Thanks in advance, Keith
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Re: Can't Type Into Search Box On Bookshare

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Can you do me two favors? First, type your search anyway, even though you're 
getting error sounds--you are getting those sounds, right? Once you do, try 
searching and see what happens. Next, can you go to www.applevis.com and try to 
type into the search field on the main page? If my guess is right, the same 
thing will happen there that's happening on Bookshare. Thanks in advance.
> On Sep 20, 2015, at 13:48, Arnold Schmidt <arno...@mindspring.com> wrote:
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> Before anybody asks, I have rebooted my phone, and reset it with the power 
> and home buttons, with no resolution of my problem.
>  
> Arnold Schmidt   
>> - Original Message -
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>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 1:45 PM
>> Subject: Can't Type Into Search Box On Bookshare
>> 
>> I prefer to log onto bookshare via safari so I can add books to my  reading 
>> list, rather than downloading them immediately into Voice Dream.  Now, I  
>> neither can type into the search box, nor paste anything into it from the 
>> clip board.  This workedperfectly before the upgrade.  And, this is the 
>> only search box, so far, that I can't type data into.  I still can use Voice 
>> Dream to search for books. Does anybody else have this problem?  Hopefully 
>> not.
>>  
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Re: Can't Type Into Search Box On Bookshare

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It actually is on the screen, but VoiceOver can't see that it is. I saw this 
during testing, but it was only on the AppleVis search box and I couldn't find 
anywhere else the problem was happening. Thanks for reporting this, as it now 
gives a second website for all of us to report to Apple so they can try to find 
the problem. If anyone runs across any others, please let the list know. Please 
also verify this problem on your own device, then report it to 
accessibil...@apple.com. Thanks.
> On Sep 20, 2015, at 14:36, Arnold Schmidt <arno...@mindspring.com> wrote:
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> Now, that is a weird one.  They both are actually entering text, but acting 
> as it does when one types a password.  I guess, for whatever reason, it isn't 
> showing up on the screen, so VoiceOver can't read the text in the search box. 
>  I guess I gave up on it too soon before, when I couldn't read anything that 
> I had written. 
>  
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>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 2:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: Can't Type Into Search Box On Bookshare
>> 
>> Can you do me two favors? First, type your search anyway, even though you're 
>> getting error sounds--you are getting those sounds, right? Once you do, try 
>> searching and see what happens. Next, can you go to www.applevis.com 
>> <http://www.applevis.com/> and try to type into the search field on the main 
>> page? If my guess is right, the same thing will happen there that's 
>> happening on Bookshare. Thanks in advance.
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 13:48, Arnold Schmidt <arno...@mindspring.com 
>>> <mailto:arno...@mindspring.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Before anybody asks, I have rebooted my phone, and reset it with the power 
>>> and home buttons, with no resolution of my problem.
>>>  
>>> Arnold Schmidt   
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Arnold Schmidt <mailto:arno...@mindspring.com>
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 1:45 PM
>>>> Subject: Can't Type Into Search Box On Bookshare
>>>> 
>>>> I prefer to log onto bookshare via safari so I can add books to my  
>>>> reading list, rather than downloading them immediately into Voice Dream.  
>>>> Now, I  neither can type into the search box, nor paste anything into it 
>>>> from the clip board.  This worked perfectly before the upgrade.  And, this 
>>>> is the only search box, so far, that I can't type data into.  I still can 
>>>> use Voice Dream to search for books. Does anybody else have this problem?  
>>>> Hopefully not.
>>>>  
>>>> Arnold Schmidt 
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Re: 4-Digit Passcode?

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It will be a brand new one, not taking your old one into account at all.
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 19:05, Fazil <fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi, list.
> I have a 4-digit passcode, however, when I upgraded my Iphone6 Plus to IOS9, 
> the initial setup wanted me use a 6-digit passcode and it also gave me to 
> skip that option for the time being.
> Now my question is when I would setup a 6-digit passcode, should this new 
> passcode contain the 4-digit of my current passcode or would that be a brand 
> new one?
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Re: VO gestures with Safari

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In iOS9, in the list of pages, you flick up with one finger until VO says 
"close page" and then double tap, similar to closing apps in the App Switcher. 
As he below message says, all Safari gestures are normal, just remember to use 
your rotor to move by link, heading, or whatever else you want to move by.
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 22:02, Jenifer Barr <claudas...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi. When you're in safari... go to the bottom where there are several tabs. 
> You'll see pages... doubletap on that and there will be a list of open pages 
> with a close button after each one. Doubletap on the ones you want to 
> close... make sure vo says close and the name of the page then doubletap when 
> you hear that one on the close and the name. As far as specific gestures... 
> they are all the same as normal vo gestures. hth and makes sense. (smile) 
> 
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> On Sep 19, 2015, at 9:46 PM, Don & Cher <oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net 
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>> OK- never have used Safari on the phone. Looks like my husband may have 
>> several pages open- and I don't know how to close them. Also cannot locate a 
>> list of gestures for Safari. HELP please please :)
>>  
>> Cher
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Re: Inability to type with bluetooth keyboard in iOS9?

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Please email accessibil...@apple.com with a message saying you are having this 
issue, and all the detail about your device and keyboard you can think of. In 
the meantime, some users report success turning VoiceOver off, typing, then 
turning it back on. I realize that's not a good solution, but it may be 
something until Apple fixes this one.
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:57, ruby alphonse <rubyalpho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 9/18/15, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>> Nope. I've tried those two things, rebooting my phone, etc. no luck.
>> 
>> At 04:19 PM 9/17/2015, you wrote:
>>> 
>>> One person on Twitter suggested that re-pairing the keyboard, or turning
>>> it off and back on a few times, fixed the problem. Have either of you
>>> found that to be the case?
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 17, 2015, at 16:10, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> well, in Mail, Messages, FB Messenger, etc. I simply cannot type into
>>>> edit fields with my Logitech Keys-to-Go bluetooth keyboard.  I'm not sure
>>>> what else I can add other than this particular bug affects me. I'm using
>>>> a 6+ purchased in December.
>>>> 
>>>> At 03:50 PM 9/17/2015, you wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> I'm curious about iOS9's bug that prevents typing with bluetooth
>>>>> keyboards for some users. I didn't see this in my own testing, though I
>>>>> don't really use a bluetooth keyboard often. I didn't hear about anyone
>>>>> else running into this one either, and I talked to several testers
>>>>> during the beta cycle. I'm not doubting it happens, I just want to try
>>>>> to figure out why it happens. I'm going to be asked by some TVIs and
>>>>> other people whether they should upgrade the devices of their students
>>>>> and clients, and I am not sure what to tell them about this bug. Any
>>>>> information you can provide would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Re: An Unfortunate Development After Upgrading to IOS 9, having Nothing to Do With IOS 9

[Alex Hall]

If it runs 12.1 though, can't it run 12.3? Generally, if a major version of an 
app runs (major being version 12, in this case) incremental updates to that 
version are fine. What happens when you try to install 12.3?
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 14:07, Arnold Schmidt <arno...@mindspring.com> wrote:
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> I only have had IOS 9 running for a few minutes, so I don't know if I have 
> any of the bugs yet.  I do know that they put a useable table index back into 
> Apple Music, that is good.
>  
> I used iTunes on my computer to upgrade.  Really near the end of the upgrade, 
> ITunes told me that Arnold's iPhone could not be used because I needed a 
> newer version of iTunes.  What a scare!What am I going to do, my phone is 
> not on yet!  I waited, and it did come on, and the rest of the setup process 
> went easier than in the past.  What iTunes meant is that this poor old Vista 
> computer, running iTunes 12.1.2 is now just too old.  It won't run anything 
> later than iTunes 12.1.2, I guess my phone needs at least 12.2 to interface 
> with my computer now.  So, being that I really don't want one of these phones 
> without access to a computer running iTunes, I guess I am going to have to 
> hit up my 401K, or something, and get a Windows 10 computer.  I was planning 
> to do this anyway, maybe in the spring, after saving the money to spare the 
> 401k, and Windows 10 went through an update or two, not this soon.  I know I 
> technically  could upgrade this one to windows 7, then to 10, but that would 
> be wasting money in my opinion, just put that money toward a new one.  
> Whatever.  My stuff is just too old now.
>  
> Arnold Schmidt
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Re: Upgrading to Ios9 with the iPhone 6

[Alex Hall]

The two serious bugs at the moment appear to be the inability to type text 
using a bluetooth keyboard, and the phone locking up when you get or hang up a 
call. Both bugs only affect a subset of iOS9 users, not everyone. Other than 
that, I think the rest of the bugs are mild enough that I can live with them. 
If you are unaffected by the two biggies, you are fine, I feel.
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 08:24, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. <fiore...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi: I gather from reviewing all the posts on this list that upgrading to Ios9 
> won't create any major issues for me. I'm not as sophisticated as many of you 
> on the list and basically use English speech email, calendar, texting, 
> camfind, knfb reader and the other basic apps on the phone.
> Any comments would be appreciated.
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Re: Questions Regarding Gestures Used in New IPhones

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Not specifically, but be assured that there will be once these new phones get 
into peoples' hands.

As to terminology, a soft press is how you perform a peek, and a hard press is 
how you perform a pop. This is similar to how a double tap is how you activate 
an item; the press is just the name of the gesture used to perform the command.
> On Sep 17, 2015, at 16:19, Terry-Ann Saurmann <tsaurm...@access4less.net> 
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> Hi all,
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> A friend is having to purchase a new IPhone and has ordered the #6S.  She is 
> wondering if there are any resources yet available which describe the new 
> gestures used with them?  She is also wondering if the terms "Hard Touch and 
> Soft Touch" are the same as the terms "Peaks and Pops," or do they refer to 
> two separate types of gestures?  Terry
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