Re: Witango-Talk: Social Media

2011-08-12 Thread Roland Dumas
I think most of the social integration occurs via widgets created by the social 
sites or by aggregators, such as 'add this'.  They operate in frames, mostly.


On Aug 11, 2011, at 10:56 PM, Wayne Irvine wrote:

> I remember some time ago a question was asked about social media integration. 
> That is, showing streams of information (statuses from Facebook, Tweets from 
> Twitter etc) and post to streams from Witango back ends. The latter is what I 
> am more interested in.
>
> http://www.anintelligentlife.com/
>
> Notice on the home page is a comment. This will scroll through a range of 
> comments eventually. It is posted from an admin interface by the site owner. 
> We would also like this content posted to his Facebook page and Twitter 
> followers. Has anyone looked into this sort of integration and care to share? 
> I am not sure how you go about getting the server to have a user session on 
> Fb/Tw?
>
> Wayne Irvine
>
> 
>
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Re: Witango-Talk: Monitoring Website Users

2011-08-10 Thread Roland Dumas
I have done such a function. It isn't the most elegant solution, but it works. First, I created a user variable that added the viewed page to a user-scope variable. So the user variable had a list of codes that represented unique page views.Then I created a domain scope array that has a few columns: cookie value, visitor name (if they are checked in), a copy of the user-scope variable, a timestamp of last hit, and their shopping cart. Every time the user scope variable is updated, it replaces its corresponding row in the domain scope variable. You can then look at a list of current visitors by showing the domain scope variable. I created a trigger - when the user scope expires, the domain scope row is deleted and added to a record in a database. Happy to share logic, code, or a tour of a testing server. On Aug 10, 2011, at 01:41 PM, mike Bravu  wrote:Hi all,I need to monitor users on my website (using Witango Server 5.5/Windows 2003/MSSQL 2005). I need to know who is logged in, what pages they are viewing.The administrator of the site would prefer to have an applet/webpage opened that would list in (almost) real time the name of the user logged in and the current visited page (this would look like getting streaming info from a sport event, for example). 
Questions:1- Has anybody had to deal with this issue and is willing to share info, or provide a hint?2- Is there a way find out which users are logged in from the Witango server?I have a rudimentary solution in mind, but it is probably a heavy load for the CPU.
I checked the forum but could not find anything pertinent to my problem.Thank you,MB


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Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC

2011-07-31 Thread Roland Dumas
My next step is to try to figure out how to use my Mac powerbook as the testing 
server. Never done that before. If anyone knows of a guide to using the 
built-in apache and installing witango, send me a link.

thanks.




On Jul 30, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:

> Yes. You have that all working as intended.
>
> Note that the search action bug is a known issue and is corrected in 6.1. If 
> you need it, I can email you a patch file off list.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com]
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 6:16 PM
> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>
> This was successful.
> Created a DSN using JDBC on dev machine with the same name as the ODBC on the 
> production server.
> dev machine is hitting localhost via jdbc and production is hitting same name 
> database on production machine with ODBC.
> Saveas version 5.5 because production server is still on 5.5. made a simple 
> test.taf using a builder. It worked with one hitch. The prev/next button 
> didn't happen, but rather showed the code on the screen. Likely a typo 
> somewhere in the builder.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 30, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>
>> ok, have jdbc running.
>>
>> Are you telling me that I can create a datasource using the ODBC option, but 
>> connecting to the dev database using the JDBC driver, which will then on the 
>> production server find an ODBC DSN of the same name and use it?  This is 
>> sounding possible.
>>
>>
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:
>>
>>> Roland,
>>>
>>> The setup in Witango 6.0 + on OS X is that the Studio uses JDBC to 
>>> introspect the database (to load it into the Studio Database tab for drag 
>>> and drop).
>>>
>>> If you setup a Witango Data Source under the JDBC section, then the Studio 
>>> will create TAFs that expect to use JDBC on the server, however, if you 
>>> setup a Witango Data Source under the ODBC section, then the TAFs will look 
>>> for ODBC DSNs when executed by the server.
>>>
>>> In this way, the OS X Studio can use JDBC to load the database, but you can 
>>> still use ODBC on the server.
>>>
>>> Starting in 10.6 Apple has mostly dropped support for ODBC. I suspect this 
>>> trend continued in 10.7. The iODBC subsystem is still present, but the 
>>> manager is removed, JAVA support is non-existent and I'm not sure how well 
>>> they are keeping up the functionality in Cocoa. I've tested with OpenLink 
>>> on 10.6 and found that product to be a good solution.
>>>
>>> As things stand right now, Apple is neither supporting ODBC nor JDBC/Java, 
>>> so database connectivity is being left out in the cold. Java 7 may resolve 
>>> the JDBC issues and there's a good chance that if it does, we'll 
>>> standardize on Java 7 & JDBC for connectivity support on OSX.
>>>
>>> I may also build in native connectors to Oracle (OCI), MSSQL (FreeTDS) and 
>>> FileMaker (FMXML) but there are no immediate plans to do so.
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com]
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:48 PM
>>> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:
>>>
>>>> Roland,
>>>>
>>>> Could you confirm which version of the Studio were and are now using?
>>> 6.0.7
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I ask because the Witango 6.0 Studio and TeraScribe 6.1 don't support 
>>>> ODBC, only JDBC.
>>> really? It has New data sources: ODBC and JDBC.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also, the ODBC subsystem was somewhat deprecated in 10.6 and needed to be 
>>>> installed manually. This is probably the case in 10.7 as well, but I 
>>>> haven't tested it. Checkout KB: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL895
>>>
>>> It was running prior to 10.6 and wasn't harmed when I upgraded to 10.7. 
>>> It's completely hosed by upgrading to 10.7
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Server should still access the iodbc subsystem and DSNs, but driver 
>>>> loading may be different. Also note that Lion is much more interested in 
>>>> running in 64-bit, and you may be having issues with bitness and/or paths.
>>>
>>&

Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC

2011-07-30 Thread Roland Dumas
This was successful.
Created a DSN using JDBC on dev machine with the same name as the ODBC on the 
production server.
dev machine is hitting localhost via jdbc and production is hitting same name 
database on production machine with ODBC.
 Saveas version 5.5 because production server is still on 5.5. made a simple 
test.taf using a builder. It worked with one hitch. The prev/next button didn't 
happen, but rather showed the code on the screen. Likely a typo somewhere in 
the builder.






On Jul 30, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:

> ok, have jdbc running.
>
> Are you telling me that I can create a datasource using the ODBC option, but 
> connecting to the dev database using the JDBC driver, which will then on the 
> production server find an ODBC DSN of the same name and use it?  This is 
> sounding possible.
>
>
> On Jul 30, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:
>
>> Roland,
>>
>> The setup in Witango 6.0 + on OS X is that the Studio uses JDBC to 
>> introspect the database (to load it into the Studio Database tab for drag 
>> and drop).
>>
>> If you setup a Witango Data Source under the JDBC section, then the Studio 
>> will create TAFs that expect to use JDBC on the server, however, if you 
>> setup a Witango Data Source under the ODBC section, then the TAFs will look 
>> for ODBC DSNs when executed by the server.
>>
>> In this way, the OS X Studio can use JDBC to load the database, but you can 
>> still use ODBC on the server.
>>
>> Starting in 10.6 Apple has mostly dropped support for ODBC. I suspect this 
>> trend continued in 10.7. The iODBC subsystem is still present, but the 
>> manager is removed, JAVA support is non-existent and I'm not sure how well 
>> they are keeping up the functionality in Cocoa. I've tested with OpenLink on 
>> 10.6 and found that product to be a good solution.
>>
>> As things stand right now, Apple is neither supporting ODBC nor JDBC/Java, 
>> so database connectivity is being left out in the cold. Java 7 may resolve 
>> the JDBC issues and there's a good chance that if it does, we'll standardize 
>> on Java 7 & JDBC for connectivity support on OSX.
>>
>> I may also build in native connectors to Oracle (OCI), MSSQL (FreeTDS) and 
>> FileMaker (FMXML) but there are no immediate plans to do so.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:48 PM
>> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>>
>>
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:
>>
>>> Roland,
>>>
>>> Could you confirm which version of the Studio were and are now using?
>> 6.0.7
>>
>>>
>>> I ask because the Witango 6.0 Studio and TeraScribe 6.1 don't support ODBC, 
>>> only JDBC.
>> really? It has New data sources: ODBC and JDBC.
>>
>>>
>>> Also, the ODBC subsystem was somewhat deprecated in 10.6 and needed to be 
>>> installed manually. This is probably the case in 10.7 as well, but I 
>>> haven't tested it. Checkout KB: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL895
>>
>> It was running prior to 10.6 and wasn't harmed when I upgraded to 10.7. It's 
>> completely hosed by upgrading to 10.7
>>
>>>
>>> The Server should still access the iodbc subsystem and DSNs, but driver 
>>> loading may be different. Also note that Lion is much more interested in 
>>> running in 64-bit, and you may be having issues with bitness and/or paths.
>>
>> I can't tell what it killed and what it just doesn't work with. On a support 
>> call to apple and getting passed around. The "enterprise" support people 
>> answer the question with "What is ODBC?" which tells me it might be hosed 
>> for good. Converting applications from ODBC to JDBC will be a significant 
>> project.
>>
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com]
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:04 PM
>>> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>>>
>>> The existing DSNs don't show up in the studio, to I went to re-create, but 
>>> there are no drivers. I go to look in the regular apple ODBC admin utility, 
>>> and it's nowhere to be found. I find open link iodbc manager, and it has 
>>> the drivers and DSNs listed, but they all fail when tested. Errors are 
>>>

Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC

2011-07-30 Thread Roland Dumas
ok, have jdbc running.

Are you telling me that I can create a datasource using the ODBC option, but 
connecting to the dev database using the JDBC driver, which will then on the 
production server find an ODBC DSN of the same name and use it?  This is 
sounding possible.


On Jul 30, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:

> Roland,
>
> The setup in Witango 6.0 + on OS X is that the Studio uses JDBC to introspect 
> the database (to load it into the Studio Database tab for drag and drop).
>
> If you setup a Witango Data Source under the JDBC section, then the Studio 
> will create TAFs that expect to use JDBC on the server, however, if you setup 
> a Witango Data Source under the ODBC section, then the TAFs will look for 
> ODBC DSNs when executed by the server.
>
> In this way, the OS X Studio can use JDBC to load the database, but you can 
> still use ODBC on the server.
>
> Starting in 10.6 Apple has mostly dropped support for ODBC. I suspect this 
> trend continued in 10.7. The iODBC subsystem is still present, but the 
> manager is removed, JAVA support is non-existent and I'm not sure how well 
> they are keeping up the functionality in Cocoa. I've tested with OpenLink on 
> 10.6 and found that product to be a good solution.
>
> As things stand right now, Apple is neither supporting ODBC nor JDBC/Java, so 
> database connectivity is being left out in the cold. Java 7 may resolve the 
> JDBC issues and there's a good chance that if it does, we'll standardize on 
> Java 7 & JDBC for connectivity support on OSX.
>
> I may also build in native connectors to Oracle (OCI), MSSQL (FreeTDS) and 
> FileMaker (FMXML) but there are no immediate plans to do so.
>
> Robert
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com]
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:48 PM
> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>
>
> On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:
>
>> Roland,
>>
>> Could you confirm which version of the Studio were and are now using?
> 6.0.7
>
>>
>> I ask because the Witango 6.0 Studio and TeraScribe 6.1 don't support ODBC, 
>> only JDBC.
> really? It has New data sources: ODBC and JDBC.
>
>>
>> Also, the ODBC subsystem was somewhat deprecated in 10.6 and needed to be 
>> installed manually. This is probably the case in 10.7 as well, but I haven't 
>> tested it. Checkout KB: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL895
>
> It was running prior to 10.6 and wasn't harmed when I upgraded to 10.7. It's 
> completely hosed by upgrading to 10.7
>
>>
>> The Server should still access the iodbc subsystem and DSNs, but driver 
>> loading may be different. Also note that Lion is much more interested in 
>> running in 64-bit, and you may be having issues with bitness and/or paths.
>
> I can't tell what it killed and what it just doesn't work with. On a support 
> call to apple and getting passed around. The "enterprise" support people 
> answer the question with "What is ODBC?" which tells me it might be hosed for 
> good. Converting applications from ODBC to JDBC will be a significant project.
>
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:04 PM
>> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>>
>> The existing DSNs don't show up in the studio, to I went to re-create, but 
>> there are no drivers. I go to look in the regular apple ODBC admin utility, 
>> and it's nowhere to be found. I find open link iodbc manager, and it has the 
>> drivers and DSNs listed, but they all fail when tested. Errors are 
>> "specified driver could not be found" and "no such file or directory"
>>
>> So I figured the installation of 10.7 hosed up ODBC. Looking for hints how 
>> to repair, reinstall, etc.
>>
>>
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Robert Shubert wrote:
>>
>>> Roland,
>>>
>>> Could you clarify that you are looking for ODBC in the Studio? And also, 
>>> which version of the Studio and/or Server are you running?
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com]
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:40 AM
>>> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>>>
>>> Yes, well, I have a drive with my old OS and applications while I'm 
>>> migrating another to the new OS. You don&#x

Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC

2011-07-30 Thread Roland Dumas
very helpful and a little hopeful.
The fact that neither JDBC nor ODBC options can be used to create a DSN tells 
me that the JDBC drivers are hosed, also.


On Jul 30, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:

> Roland,
>
> The setup in Witango 6.0 + on OS X is that the Studio uses JDBC to introspect 
> the database (to load it into the Studio Database tab for drag and drop).
>
> If you setup a Witango Data Source under the JDBC section, then the Studio 
> will create TAFs that expect to use JDBC on the server, however, if you setup 
> a Witango Data Source under the ODBC section, then the TAFs will look for 
> ODBC DSNs when executed by the server.
>
> In this way, the OS X Studio can use JDBC to load the database, but you can 
> still use ODBC on the server.
>
> Starting in 10.6 Apple has mostly dropped support for ODBC. I suspect this 
> trend continued in 10.7. The iODBC subsystem is still present, but the 
> manager is removed, JAVA support is non-existent and I'm not sure how well 
> they are keeping up the functionality in Cocoa. I've tested with OpenLink on 
> 10.6 and found that product to be a good solution.
>
> As things stand right now, Apple is neither supporting ODBC nor JDBC/Java, so 
> database connectivity is being left out in the cold. Java 7 may resolve the 
> JDBC issues and there's a good chance that if it does, we'll standardize on 
> Java 7 & JDBC for connectivity support on OSX.
>
> I may also build in native connectors to Oracle (OCI), MSSQL (FreeTDS) and 
> FileMaker (FMXML) but there are no immediate plans to do so.
>
> Robert
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com]
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:48 PM
> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>
>
> On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:
>
>> Roland,
>>
>> Could you confirm which version of the Studio were and are now using?
> 6.0.7
>
>>
>> I ask because the Witango 6.0 Studio and TeraScribe 6.1 don't support ODBC, 
>> only JDBC.
> really? It has New data sources: ODBC and JDBC.
>
>>
>> Also, the ODBC subsystem was somewhat deprecated in 10.6 and needed to be 
>> installed manually. This is probably the case in 10.7 as well, but I haven't 
>> tested it. Checkout KB: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL895
>
> It was running prior to 10.6 and wasn't harmed when I upgraded to 10.7. It's 
> completely hosed by upgrading to 10.7
>
>>
>> The Server should still access the iodbc subsystem and DSNs, but driver 
>> loading may be different. Also note that Lion is much more interested in 
>> running in 64-bit, and you may be having issues with bitness and/or paths.
>
> I can't tell what it killed and what it just doesn't work with. On a support 
> call to apple and getting passed around. The "enterprise" support people 
> answer the question with "What is ODBC?" which tells me it might be hosed for 
> good. Converting applications from ODBC to JDBC will be a significant project.
>
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:04 PM
>> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>>
>> The existing DSNs don't show up in the studio, to I went to re-create, but 
>> there are no drivers. I go to look in the regular apple ODBC admin utility, 
>> and it's nowhere to be found. I find open link iodbc manager, and it has the 
>> drivers and DSNs listed, but they all fail when tested. Errors are 
>> "specified driver could not be found" and "no such file or directory"
>>
>> So I figured the installation of 10.7 hosed up ODBC. Looking for hints how 
>> to repair, reinstall, etc.
>>
>>
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Robert Shubert wrote:
>>
>>> Roland,
>>>
>>> Could you clarify that you are looking for ODBC in the Studio? And also, 
>>> which version of the Studio and/or Server are you running?
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com]
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:40 AM
>>> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>>>
>>> Yes, well, I have a drive with my old OS and applications while I'm 
>>> migrating another to the new OS. You don't know all the hiccups and 
>>> incompatibilities until you give it a shot.
>>>
>>> 

Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC

2011-07-30 Thread Roland Dumas

On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:

> Roland,
>
> Could you confirm which version of the Studio were and are now using?
6.0.7

>
> I ask because the Witango 6.0 Studio and TeraScribe 6.1 don't support ODBC, 
> only JDBC.
really? It has New data sources: ODBC and JDBC.

>
> Also, the ODBC subsystem was somewhat deprecated in 10.6 and needed to be 
> installed manually. This is probably the case in 10.7 as well, but I haven't 
> tested it. Checkout KB: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL895

It was running prior to 10.6 and wasn't harmed when I upgraded to 10.7. It's 
completely hosed by upgrading to 10.7

>
> The Server should still access the iodbc subsystem and DSNs, but driver 
> loading may be different. Also note that Lion is much more interested in 
> running in 64-bit, and you may be having issues with bitness and/or paths.

I can't tell what it killed and what it just doesn't work with. On a support 
call to apple and getting passed around. The "enterprise" support people answer 
the question with "What is ODBC?" which tells me it might be hosed for good. 
Converting applications from ODBC to JDBC will be a significant project.

>
> Robert
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com]
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:04 PM
> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>
> The existing DSNs don't show up in the studio, to I went to re-create, but 
> there are no drivers. I go to look in the regular apple ODBC admin utility, 
> and it's nowhere to be found. I find open link iodbc manager, and it has the 
> drivers and DSNs listed, but they all fail when tested. Errors are "specified 
> driver could not be found" and "no such file or directory"
>
> So I figured the installation of 10.7 hosed up ODBC. Looking for hints how to 
> repair, reinstall, etc.
>
>
> On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Robert Shubert wrote:
>
>> Roland,
>>
>> Could you clarify that you are looking for ODBC in the Studio? And also, 
>> which version of the Studio and/or Server are you running?
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:40 AM
>> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>>
>> Yes, well, I have a drive with my old OS and applications while I'm 
>> migrating another to the new OS. You don't know all the hiccups and 
>> incompatibilities until you give it a shot.
>>
>> Installing Java is not a problem. I expected that ODBC would be natively 
>> supported by the OS as it (sorta) was previously. the upgrade wiped 
>> everything out. wondering what the right protocol is to re-install.
>> _
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:42 AM, Wayne Irvine wrote:
>>
>>> Robert made an announcement recently about not supporting Lion yet. That 
>>> said, I installed 10.7 and Lion on what of my machines that already had 
>>> TeraScribe installed. I also installed Java (came up as an option when I 
>>> went to run a Java app).
>>>
>>> TeraScribe runs fine on this.
>>>
>>> Wayne Irvine
>>>
>>> On 30/07/2011, at 3:18 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> upgraded to 10.7 and installed Witango dev studio. ODBC seems missing in 
>>>> this OS release. Anyone know the proper way to install/revive?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
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Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC

2011-07-30 Thread Roland Dumas
The existing DSNs don't show up in the studio, to I went to re-create, but 
there are no drivers. I go to look in the regular apple ODBC admin utility, and 
it's nowhere to be found. I find open link iodbc manager, and it has the 
drivers and DSNs listed, but they all fail when tested. Errors are "specified 
driver could not be found" and "no such file or directory"

So I figured the installation of 10.7 hosed up ODBC. Looking for hints how to 
repair, reinstall, etc.


On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Robert Shubert wrote:

> Roland,
>
> Could you clarify that you are looking for ODBC in the Studio? And also, 
> which version of the Studio and/or Server are you running?
>
> Robert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com]
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:40 AM
> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>
> Yes, well, I have a drive with my old OS and applications while I'm migrating 
> another to the new OS. You don't know all the hiccups and incompatibilities 
> until you give it a shot.
>
> Installing Java is not a problem. I expected that ODBC would be natively 
> supported by the OS as it (sorta) was previously. the upgrade wiped 
> everything out. wondering what the right protocol is to re-install.
> _
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:42 AM, Wayne Irvine wrote:
>
>> Robert made an announcement recently about not supporting Lion yet. That 
>> said, I installed 10.7 and Lion on what of my machines that already had 
>> TeraScribe installed. I also installed Java (came up as an option when I 
>> went to run a Java app).
>>
>> TeraScribe runs fine on this.
>>
>> Wayne Irvine
>>
>> On 30/07/2011, at 3:18 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> upgraded to 10.7 and installed Witango dev studio. ODBC seems missing in 
>>> this OS release. Anyone know the proper way to install/revive?
>>>
>>>
>>> 
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Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC

2011-07-30 Thread Roland Dumas
Yes, well, I have a drive with my old OS and applications while I'm migrating 
another to the new OS. You don't know all the hiccups and incompatibilities 
until you give it a shot.

Installing Java is not a problem. I expected that ODBC would be natively 
supported by the OS as it (sorta) was previously. the upgrade wiped everything 
out. wondering what the right protocol is to re-install.
_




On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:42 AM, Wayne Irvine wrote:

> Robert made an announcement recently about not supporting Lion yet. That 
> said, I installed 10.7 and Lion on what of my machines that already had 
> TeraScribe installed. I also installed Java (came up as an option when I went 
> to run a Java app).
>
> TeraScribe runs fine on this.
>
> Wayne Irvine
>
> On 30/07/2011, at 3:18 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>
>>
>> upgraded to 10.7 and installed Witango dev studio. ODBC seems missing in 
>> this OS release. Anyone know the proper way to install/revive?
>>
>>
>> 
>>
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Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC

2011-07-29 Thread Roland Dumas

upgraded to 10.7 and installed Witango dev studio. ODBC seems missing in this 
OS release. Anyone know the proper way to install/revive?




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Re: Witango-Talk: PC vs Mac Browser Behavior

2011-07-07 Thread Roland Dumas
Using the builder? What version of dev studio?

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 7, 2011, at 17:02, Chuck Leavens  wrote:

> https://www.pubradio.net/untitled1.taf
>
> Its happening with any taf I make with the dev studio.  The link above is 
> just a few fields from a larger page done here so there is no extra code to 
> be involved other than what the dev studio writes.
>
> Mac users it works fine.  PC users can't enter anything in the fields but the 
> pull downs and submit works.
>
> Crazy huh?
>
> On Jul 7, 2011, at 7:26 PM, Wayne Irvine wrote:
>
>> Got a URL?
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> On 08/07/2011, at 3:46 AM, Chuck Leavens wrote:
>>
>>> I am having an odd issue where a taf file I serve behaves normally on a mac 
>>> with all browsers but on a PC the forms display properly but the browsers 
>>> will not let you enter text in the fields.
>>>
>>> IE or Firefox the same.
>>>
>>> There has to be some silly mistake here.
>>>
>>> Ideas?
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck Leavens
>>> Leavens Media Associates LLC
>>> 1919 Riggs Rd
>>> Pittsburgh PA 15129
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Witango-Talk: Sneak peek at new tags

2011-04-01 Thread Roland Dumas
<@GPSLOCATE item="sense of humor">

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 1, 2011, at 11:54 AM, John Carrieri  wrote:

> LOL,  Nice April Fool’s Robert!
>
> I would settle for <@GPSLOCATE ITEM=last10years>
>
> if the ‘lostchildhoodyears’ parameter is too much.
>
> -John
>
>
> On 4/1/11 9:25 AM, "Robert Shubert"  wrote:
>
> As we move towards the next release, I thought I’d share some of the new tags 
> we’ll be adding:
>
> <@GPSLOCATE ITEM=item>
>
> @GPSLOCATE is a convenient way to locate missing items. It responds a 2x1 
> array with the latitude and longitude of the ITEM. These values are 
> compatible with most GPS systems available today.
>
> Example:
>
> <@GPSLOCATE ITEM=keys>
> <@GPSLOCATE ITEM=dog>
>
> This tag does not work on intangible items. Example values that will return a 
> ‘not tangible’ error:
>
> <@GPSLOCATE ITEM=sanity>
> <@GPSLOCATE ITEM=lostChildhoodYears>
>
>
> <@FASTER>
>
> @FASTER does not take any attributes. This tag is intended to make it easier 
> for a web developers and a server administrators to improve the performance 
> of an application. Normally expensive new hardware and time consuming 
> upgrades are necessary. With @FASTER you can improve the performance of your 
> site at much lower cost. Each use of @FASTER will improve performance by 
> approximately 18%. Multiple uses of this tag are cumulative.
>
>
> <@UTRANSLATE STR=string>
>
> @UTRANSLATE is Witango’s implementation of the Universal Translator. This tag 
> takes a string and evaluates to a string. The input string can be in any 
> format, language, and encoding. Witango will auto-detect these parameters 
> from the input string. When the tag evaluates it will produce the correct 
> output for the situation in which it is used.
>
>
> <@ISCORRECT VALUE=value>
>
> @ISCORRECT responds a 1 (true) when the VALUE provided is correct and the 0 
> (false) when it’s not. We are still working on ways to improve this tag. 
> Currently the only VALUE that evaluates to 1 (correct) is 42. We aren’t sure 
> why.
>
>
> <@REMAININGBUGS>
>
> @REMAININGBUGS does not take any attributes. This tag resolves to the number 
> (an integer) of syntax, coding and run-time bugs which are present in the 
> currently executing TAF. You can place this tag at any point within the TAF 
> to get the result.
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Robert
>
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> Colleges.com Natural Listings:
> #1 Yahoo keyword ‘colleges’
> #1 Bing keyword ‘colleges’   #1 MSN keyword ‘colleges’
> #1 Bing keyword ‘college’ #1 Ask keyword ‘colleges’
> #1 or #2 Google keyword ‘colleges’
>
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> #1 Bing keyword ‘employment’
> Top three Google keyword ‘employment’
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Re: Witango-Talk: customizing the 404 error response

2010-12-14 Thread Roland Dumas
I'm running 5.0 on both servers. Is that a known bug for 5.0?

On Dec 14, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:

> Roland,
>
> On the 5.5.020 and 6.0.3 Witango (Windows platform) putting code in that file 
> works as expected. I believe you are familiar with error handler, which 
> parses the error, creates objects and called methods, executes database 
> actions, sends email and returns various "friendly" results to the user. All 
> in all that aspect has been very useful for me.
>
> If you are experiencing an issue, please submit a bug or email 
> supp...@witango.com with your platform, version and a copy of the error.tml 
> file.
>
> Robert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 4:34 PM
> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: customizing the 404 error response
>
> what I don't get is that there is an architecture for handling errors in a 
> custom fashion by pointing to an error file. A placeholder file is installed 
> by default.  Just if you put anything in that file, the server crashes. Is 
> that a bug in the server, or was Bill Conlon's code somehow a wrong approach?
> _
>
> Roland A. Dumas
> 310 W. Bellevue Ave.
> San Mateo, CA 94402
> 415-412-9300
> AIM: radumas
> radu...@mac.com
> http://www.servqual.com
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 14, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Robert Shubert wrote:
>
>> Added to the list.
>>
>> I agree that there should be separate error files for certain groups of 
>> errors:
>>
>> No TAF/TML file found (aka 404)
>> Witango Execution Can't continue (error in TAF/TML/TCF)
>> Configuration/Server issue (aka 5xx)
>>
>> I also don't like that the hitting the queryTimeout can't be processed as an 
>> error and I think that the client error system needs to be updated as well.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:53 PM
>> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: customizing the 404 error response
>>
>> Here's a long standing problem: the 404 error page for witango. If a client 
>> hits a nonexistent .tml or .taf URL, they get a witango-generated error. 
>> inelegant. One should be able to customize that to the 404 error page of 
>> your choice. Bill Conlon suggested the logic, which makes perfect sense. It 
>> will, however, reliably crash the witango server if you actually put any 
>> code into the error.tml file.
>>
>> (note that the thread started in 2007)
>>
>> It's annoying that a client's request for a non-gibberish 404 file can't be 
>> met.
>>
>>
>> _
>>
>> Roland A. Dumas
>> 310 W. Bellevue Ave.
>> San Mateo, CA 94402
>> 415-412-9300
>> AIM: radumas
>> radu...@mac.com
>> http://www.servqual.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 14, 2008, at 3:07 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>>
>>> Holy Cow! When you do this, it DOES crash the witango server!
>>>
>>> On Nov 9, 2008, at 8:21 AM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bill,
>>>> I never implemented this. Did it ever work for you? I'm about to give it a 
>>>> try, but if it crashes witangod, I'll give it a second thought.
>>>>
>>>> In the config, there is no defaulterrorfile designated. I was going to 
>>>> crib your page as you wrote it and then whip up my 404.tml file
>>>>
>>>> RAD
>>>> On Sep 28, 2007, at 11:57 AM, William M Conlon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Roland,
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you get this working?  I'm now trying to do something similar, and 
>>>>> finding it's not straightforward.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have my apache configure to return notfound.tml for 404 errors, which 
>>>>> works. But if I have missing witango file, the error handler crashes my 
>>>>> 5.0.1.065 witango server.
>>>>>
>>>>> DEFAULTERRORFILE=/usr/local/witango/MiscFiles/error.tml
>>>>>
>>>>> My error handler, error.tml, is meant to allow a custom notfound error 
>>>>> for each domain:
>>>>>
>>>>> <@IF EXPR="<@ERROR PART='number1'> = -3" >
>>>>> <@INCLUDE file="<@WEBROOT>notfound.tml">
>>>>> <@ELSE>
>

Re: Witango-Talk: customizing the 404 error response

2010-12-14 Thread Roland Dumas
what I don't get is that there is an architecture for handling errors in a 
custom fashion by pointing to an error file. A placeholder file is installed by 
default.  Just if you put anything in that file, the server crashes. Is that a 
bug in the server, or was Bill Conlon's code somehow a wrong approach?
_

Roland A. Dumas
310 W. Bellevue Ave.
San Mateo, CA 94402
415-412-9300
AIM: radumas
radu...@mac.com
http://www.servqual.com




On Dec 14, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Robert Shubert wrote:

> Added to the list.
>
> I agree that there should be separate error files for certain groups of 
> errors:
>
> No TAF/TML file found (aka 404)
> Witango Execution Can't continue (error in TAF/TML/TCF)
> Configuration/Server issue (aka 5xx)
>
> I also don't like that the hitting the queryTimeout can't be processed as an 
> error and I think that the client error system needs to be updated as well.
>
> Robert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:53 PM
> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: customizing the 404 error response
>
> Here's a long standing problem: the 404 error page for witango. If a client 
> hits a nonexistent .tml or .taf URL, they get a witango-generated error. 
> inelegant. One should be able to customize that to the 404 error page of your 
> choice. Bill Conlon suggested the logic, which makes perfect sense. It will, 
> however, reliably crash the witango server if you actually put any code into 
> the error.tml file.
>
> (note that the thread started in 2007)
>
> It's annoying that a client's request for a non-gibberish 404 file can't be 
> met.
>
>
> _
>
> Roland A. Dumas
> 310 W. Bellevue Ave.
> San Mateo, CA 94402
> 415-412-9300
> AIM: radumas
> radu...@mac.com
> http://www.servqual.com
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2008, at 3:07 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>
>> Holy Cow! When you do this, it DOES crash the witango server!
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2008, at 8:21 AM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>>
>>> Bill,
>>> I never implemented this. Did it ever work for you? I'm about to give it a 
>>> try, but if it crashes witangod, I'll give it a second thought.
>>>
>>> In the config, there is no defaulterrorfile designated. I was going to crib 
>>> your page as you wrote it and then whip up my 404.tml file
>>>
>>> RAD
>>> On Sep 28, 2007, at 11:57 AM, William M Conlon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Roland,
>>>>
>>>> Did you get this working?  I'm now trying to do something similar, and 
>>>> finding it's not straightforward.
>>>>
>>>> I have my apache configure to return notfound.tml for 404 errors, which 
>>>> works. But if I have missing witango file, the error handler crashes my 
>>>> 5.0.1.065 witango server.
>>>>
>>>> DEFAULTERRORFILE=/usr/local/witango/MiscFiles/error.tml
>>>>
>>>> My error handler, error.tml, is meant to allow a custom notfound error for 
>>>> each domain:
>>>>
>>>> <@IF EXPR="<@ERROR PART='number1'> = -3" >
>>>> <@INCLUDE file="<@WEBROOT>notfound.tml">
>>>> <@ELSE>
>>>>
>>>> <@ERRORS>
>>>>Class: <@ERROR PART="class">
>>>>Application File: <@ERROR PART="appfilepath"><@ERROR 
>>>> PART="appfilename">
>>>>Action: <@ERROR PART="postion">
>>>>Main Error Number: <@ERROR PART="number1">
>>>>Secondary Error Number: <@ERROR PART="number2">
>>>>Main Error Message: <@ERROR PART="message1">
>>>>Secondary Error Message: <@ERROR PART="message2">
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 20, 2007, at 5:25 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> so get the error.html and insert this in it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <@IF EXPR='<@ERROR PART="number1"> = -3' >
>>>>> <@INCLUDE file="/errors/404.tml">
>>>>> <@ELSE>
>>>>>
>>>>> <@ERRORS>
>>>>>   Class: <@ERROR PART="cl

Re: Witango-Talk: customizing the 404 error response

2010-12-14 Thread Roland Dumas
Here's a long standing problem: the 404 error page for witango. If a client 
hits a nonexistent .tml or .taf URL, they get a witango-generated error. 
inelegant. One should be able to customize that to the 404 error page of your 
choice. Bill Conlon suggested the logic, which makes perfect sense. It will, 
however, reliably crash the witango server if you actually put any code into 
the error.tml file.

(note that the thread started in 2007)

It's annoying that a client's request for a non-gibberish 404 file can't be met.


_

Roland A. Dumas
310 W. Bellevue Ave.
San Mateo, CA 94402
415-412-9300
AIM: radumas
radu...@mac.com
http://www.servqual.com




On Nov 14, 2008, at 3:07 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:

> Holy Cow! When you do this, it DOES crash the witango server!
>
> On Nov 9, 2008, at 8:21 AM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>> I never implemented this. Did it ever work for you? I'm about to give it a 
>> try, but if it crashes witangod, I'll give it a second thought.
>>
>> In the config, there is no defaulterrorfile designated. I was going to crib 
>> your page as you wrote it and then whip up my 404.tml file
>>
>> RAD
>> On Sep 28, 2007, at 11:57 AM, William M Conlon wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Roland,
>>>
>>> Did you get this working?  I'm now trying to do something similar, and 
>>> finding it's not straightforward.
>>>
>>> I have my apache configure to return notfound.tml for 404 errors, which 
>>> works. But if I have missing witango file, the error handler crashes my 
>>> 5.0.1.065 witango server.
>>>
>>> DEFAULTERRORFILE=/usr/local/witango/MiscFiles/error.tml
>>>
>>> My error handler, error.tml, is meant to allow a custom notfound error for 
>>> each domain:
>>>
>>> <@IF EXPR="<@ERROR PART='number1'> = -3" >
>>> <@INCLUDE file="<@WEBROOT>notfound.tml">
>>> <@ELSE>
>>>
>>> <@ERRORS>
>>> Class: <@ERROR PART="class">
>>> Application File: <@ERROR PART="appfilepath"><@ERROR 
>>> PART="appfilename">
>>> Action: <@ERROR PART="postion">
>>> Main Error Number: <@ERROR PART="number1">
>>> Secondary Error Number: <@ERROR PART="number2">
>>> Main Error Message: <@ERROR PART="message1">
>>> Secondary Error Message: <@ERROR PART="message2">
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 20, 2007, at 5:25 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>>>
>>>> so get the error.html and insert this in it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <@IF EXPR='<@ERROR PART="number1"> = -3' >
>>>> <@INCLUDE file="/errors/404.tml">
>>>> <@ELSE>
>>>>
>>>> <@ERRORS>
>>>>Class: <@ERROR PART="class">
>>>>Application File: <@ERROR PART="appfilepath"><@ERROR 
>>>> PART="appfilename">
>>>>Action: <@ERROR PART="postion">
>>>>Main Error Number: <@ERROR PART="number1">
>>>>Secondary Error Number: <@ERROR PART="number2">
>>>>Main Error Message: <@ERROR PART="message1">
>>>>Secondary Error Message: <@ERROR PART="message2">
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 20, 2007, at 4:35 PM, William M Conlon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes. that works on my witango5
>>>>>
>>>>> Just evaluate the main error number to dispatch different pages.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 20, 2007, at 4:31 PM, William M Conlon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think you just edit the DEFAULTERRORFILE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2007, at 4:23 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> no, because witango doesn't pick up the apache 404 file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2007, at 4:21 PM, William M Conlon wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You don&#

Re: Witango-Talk: Alternate Dumb Question Thread: Security

2010-12-12 Thread Roland Dumas
There was a long thread about this vulnerability way back when. I even 
experienced it once where I was sent a URL that had the userref on it and 
joined a session, seeing lots of stuff that shouldn't be shared.

Prevention is easy. Just don't do it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 12, 2010, at 8:01 PM, Robert Garcia  wrote:

> I guess, I thought I remembered you could alter that, but IMHO a good feature 
> would be to set the server to use cookies ONLY, so that a session could not 
> be hijacked via url or post. Otherwise, the security flaw is still there, you 
> just are limiting the "leakage" of userreference IDs.
>
> --
>
> Robert Garcia
> President - BigHead Technology
> VP Application Development - eventpix.com
> 15520 Coutelenc Rd
> Magalia, Ca 95954
> ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
> rgar...@bighead.net - rgar...@eventpix.com
> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/
>
> On Dec 12, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:
>
>> This is not a function of the server. The server will first look for the 
>> session cookie, then the search argument and finally a post argument, to 
>> identify a userreference. This behavior can’t be changed.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> From: Robert Garcia [mailto:wita...@bighead.net]
>> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 1:57 PM
>> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Alternate Dumb Question Thread: Security
>>
>> Thats a good point, but correct me if I am wrong, that is not enough. You 
>> must also disable witango from parsing the URL looking for the 
>> userreference, or session can still be hijacked. I think that is in system 
>> configuration.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Robert Garcia
>> President - BigHead Technology
>> VP Application Development - eventpix.com
>> 15520 Coutelenc Rd
>> Magalia, Ca 95954
>> ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
>> rgar...@bighead.net - rgar...@eventpix.com
>> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/
>>
>> On Dec 10, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>>
>>
>> A long-term and easily addressed security issue with tango/witango is the 
>> use of _userreference argument in the URL. The builders default to using 
>> this. LIkely, back in the early pre-pleistocene days of tango, it was 
>> practical to pass this argument in the URL because of cookies being blocked 
>> or something like that. Using this feature enables session hijacking and 
>> other evils. If you use builders, you should strip out this URL argument. 
>> Otherwise, don't do it.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Deutschendorf, Steve {Dutch} (MSFC-IS30) wrote:
>>
>>
>> Well, I misspoke, we also have a few v5.0.1 sites.
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Robert.
>>
>> Steve Deutschendorf/IS30
>> NASA/Marshall Space Flight Center
>> Office of the CIO/Applications Team
>> MSFC Account Authorization Official (AAO),
>> MAMS/MIW, NISE, NAMS, MICS, AIM, SRS
>> Phone: 256-544-2250
>>
>>
>> From: Robert Garcia 
>> Reply-To: "Witango-Talk@witango.com" 
>> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 13:00:30 -0600
>> To: "Witango-Talk@witango.com" 
>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Alternate Dumb Question Thread: Security
>>
>> The only real security issue we ever worried about with witango, is SQL 
>> injection, and then just poor coding as it relates to login methodologies 
>> where there are "holes", that would occur on any platform. So you should 
>> always use BIND or database actions, not custom inserts/updates when user 
>> inputted data is going into a query.
>>
>> Witango had a flaw that was patched, so make sure you are on the latest 5.5. 
>> Witango will be secure, because it has so little market share, no one is 
>> likely to work to exploit it. Anyway, other than that one buffer overflow 
>> security patch, I have not seen or heard of a security flaw that was related 
>> to witango, it has always been due to poor coding.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Robert Garcia
>> President - BigHead Technology
>> VP Application Development - eventpix.com <http://eventpix.com>
>> 15520 Coutelenc Rd
>> Magalia, Ca 95954
>> ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
>> rgar...@bighead.net - rgar...@eventpix.com
>> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Deutschendorf, Steve {Dutch} (MSFC-IS30) wrote:
>>
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> We've had (Wi)Tango around for a dozen years and I can say it's been worry 
>> free in our environment.  The

Re: Witango-Talk: Alternate Dumb Question Thread: Security

2010-12-10 Thread Roland Dumas
A long-term and easily addressed security issue with tango/witango is the use 
of _userreference argument in the URL. The builders default to using this. 
LIkely, back in the early pre-pleistocene days of tango, it was practical to 
pass this argument in the URL because of cookies being blocked or something 
like that. Using this feature enables session hijacking and other evils. If you 
use builders, you should strip out this URL argument. Otherwise, don't do it.



On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Deutschendorf, Steve {Dutch} (MSFC-IS30) wrote:

> Well, I misspoke, we also have a few v5.0.1 sites.
>
>
> Thanks, Robert.
>
> Steve Deutschendorf/IS30
> NASA/Marshall Space Flight Center
> Office of the CIO/Applications Team
> MSFC Account Authorization Official (AAO),
> MAMS/MIW, NISE, NAMS, MICS, AIM, SRS
> Phone: 256-544-2250
>
>
> From: Robert Garcia 
> Reply-To: "Witango-Talk@witango.com" 
> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 13:00:30 -0600
> To: "Witango-Talk@witango.com" 
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Alternate Dumb Question Thread: Security
>
> The only real security issue we ever worried about with witango, is SQL 
> injection, and then just poor coding as it relates to login methodologies 
> where there are "holes", that would occur on any platform. So you should 
> always use BIND or database actions, not custom inserts/updates when user 
> inputted data is going into a query.
>
> Witango had a flaw that was patched, so make sure you are on the latest 5.5. 
> Witango will be secure, because it has so little market share, no one is 
> likely to work to exploit it. Anyway, other than that one buffer overflow 
> security patch, I have not seen or heard of a security flaw that was related 
> to witango, it has always been due to poor coding.
>
> --
>
> Robert Garcia
> President - BigHead Technology
> VP Application Development - eventpix.com 
> 15520 Coutelenc Rd
> Magalia, Ca 95954
> ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
> rgar...@bighead.net - rgar...@eventpix.com
> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/
>
> On Dec 3, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Deutschendorf, Steve {Dutch} (MSFC-IS30) wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> We've had (Wi)Tango around for a dozen years and I can say it's been worry 
>> free in our environment.  The fact that it still functions after various 
>> degrees of support (or not) over those years is a credit to the foundational 
>> work. I can't say that I've seen much discussion on the security 
>> implications of the product along the way, so let me ask...
>>
>> What are the security implications in remaining with v5.5 for some of our 
>> legacy applications?  Looks like we'll be moving to a different environment 
>> over time (for various support reasons), so I just wanted to appreciate the 
>> risk of hanging with my current version.  I realize the product/OS support 
>> will eventually force an upward migration.  Are there current issues with 
>> v5.5 that I may be unaware or is it by it’s very nature strictly dependent 
>> on the security gaps in the OS or database?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve Deutschendorf/IS30
>> NASA/Marshall Space Flight Center
>> Office of the CIO/Applications Team
>> Phone: 256-544-2250
>>
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Re: Witango-Talk: Apple ceasing future distribution of Java....

2010-10-22 Thread Roland Dumas
There have been some comments, including from Jobs, that the apple variant of 
java has always been a step behind and is the only platform not developed and 
distribute by Sun..er..Oracle. Looks like the java on mac platform may fall 
into line with others and be an Oracle product.

On Oct 22, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Robert Shubert wrote:

> Dale,
>
> This will actually have a HUGE impact on Witango.
>
> The version 6 studio is written completely in Java, and because Apple is such 
> a pain when it comes to their Java implementation, there are chunks of the 
> Studio which are branched or patched just to deal with Apple’s incomplete 
> JVM. I’m very interested to see where this goes, if there is some support for 
> it, it’ll be a pretty cool thing. If not, it could seriously hinder my 
> development on the OS X platform.
>
> Between 2002 and 2005, it seemed like Java was going to be real programming 
> force in the world. This was back when J2EE was becoming popular and the 
> whole “Java 2” platform was coming out. Many thought that Java would be on 
> equal footing, if not better, than other languages. It was, I believe, this 
> reasoning that lead to the Witango J2EE deployment option and to the Studio 
> being recreated as a Java application.
>
> Over the past 5 years though, Java has been somewhat standstill. Sure the 
> newer platforms Java 5, Java 6, and soon Java 7 have been improvements 
> throughout, but Apple sees their own Objective-C as the future, Microsoft is 
> doing the same with C#, and Linux is steadfast with GCC. Java is certainly 
> everywhere, and many developers love it, but it’s not really gaining any 
> ground as the language of choice on any one platform. This is creating a 
> problem with the level of integration that’s possible. Things like ODBC, 
> window management, and task bars are some of the areas where the OSes keep 
> moving forward and Java is left to catch up. I’m having to build native 
> interfaces, per OS, to get some of the “niceties” to work properly.
>
> Just like everything, I suppose, Java has advantages and disadvantages.
>
> Robert
>
> From: Dale Graham [mailto:dale.gra...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:37 AM
> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
> Subject: Witango-Talk: Apple ceasing future distribution of Java
>
> Here's the story ...
>
>
> "Yesterday, Apple quietly announced that they would cease future distribution 
> of their own custom Java packages, concerning some Java developers," John 
> Brownlee reports for Cult of Mac. "So does that mean that Macs will no longer 
> have up-to-date Java? A concerned Java Developer from Portico Systems emailed 
> Steve Jobs, asking that very question."
>
> Jobs' response: Sun (now Oracle) supplies Java for all other platforms. They 
> have their own release schedules, which are almost always different than 
> ours, so the Java we ship is always a version behind. This may not be the 
> best way to do it.
>
> Brownlee reports, "In other words, Apple’s leaving Java to the company that 
> does it best… that is, if Oracle decides to step up and produce their own 
> version of Java for Mac, as they do for every other platform. My guess is 
> they will quickly fill the void and it’ll be a win for everyone."
>
>
> -
> If true, that's a great move .  but my take is that I am concerned.  We 
> work with Oracle databases and know that Oracle has historically shown little 
> or no interest in keeping parity for Mac OS X.  I think it'll be even worse 
> with their step-child, Java.
>
>
> Admittedly, this will probably have no impact on most of us on the Witango 
> side, it's just an FYI.
>
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Witango-Talk: Yup: Witango5.0 broke

2010-10-14 Thread Roland Dumas
I dropped in on your 5.5 server and get
code: MWGYJOLF timestamp: 1287071240
code: MWGYJOKV timestamp: 1287071241
code: BKVWURE timestamp: 1287071242
code: YIYMFGSP timestamp: 1287071243
code: BKVWUSX timestamp: 1287071244
code: XFKOZQFJ timestamp: 1287071245
code: MWGYJOJM timestamp: 1287071246
code: BNCJSMBG timestamp: 1287071247
code: MWGYJOIL timestamp: 1287071248
code: ZLNKMWOE timestamp: 1287071249
code: NZVXPETH timestamp: 1287071250
code: MWGYJOHL timestamp: 1287071251

so Witango 5.0 isn't going the play well...

code: MWGYDUXX timestamp: 1287061105
code: NZVWJKXX timestamp: 1287061106
code: BNCJNSXX timestamp: 1287061107
code: NZVWJKXX timestamp: 1287061108
code: ZLNKGCXX timestamp: 1287061109
code: NZVWJKXX timestamp: 1287061110
code: LURAWEXX timestamp: 128706
code: BKVQAXX timestamp: 1287061112
code: NZVWJKXX timestamp: 1287061113
code: BNCJNSXX timestamp: 1287061114
code: XFKOTWXX timestamp: 1287061115
code: YIYMZMXX timestamp: 1287061116

On Oct 14, 2010, at 12:39 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:

> Here's a sample output from my script on v6:
>
> Timestamp: 1287070640 = Final Code: YYFUVXMI
> Timestamp: 1287070641 = Final Code: KCVNAZCR
> Timestamp: 1287070642 = Final Code: LRCBFPAU
> Timestamp: 1287070643 = Final Code: YYFWJXMI
> Timestamp: 1287070644 = Final Code: NVPTNVXZ
> Timestamp: 1287070645 = Final Code: MGIGKFYW
> Timestamp: 1287070646 = Final Code: NVPSPVXZ
> Timestamp: 1287070647 = Final Code: LRCDJPAU
> Timestamp: 1287070648 = Final Code: NVPRWVXZ
> Timestamp: 1287070649 = Final Code: XKYKEHOF
> Timestamp: 1287070650 = Final Code: ZNMKTNKL
> Timestamp: 1287070651 = Final Code: XKYLVHOF
> Timestamp: 1287070652 = Final Code: KCVSTZCR
> Timestamp: 1287070653 = Final Code: YYFZSXMI
> Timestamp: 1287070654 = Final Code: NVPPKVXZ
> Timestamp: 1287070655 = Final Code: NVPOGVXZ
> Timestamp: 1287070656 = Final Code: NVPOQVXZ
> Timestamp: 1287070657 = Final Code: KCVTVACR
> Timestamp: 1287070658 = Final Code: NVPNCVXZ
> Timestamp: 1287070659 = Final Code: LRCIUPAU
> Timestamp: 1287070660 = Final Code: ZNMGLNKL
> Timestamp: 1287070661 = Final Code: ZNMGANKL
> Timestamp: 1287070662 = Final Code: MGIZVFYW
> Timestamp: 1287070663 = Final Code: YYFDSXMI
> Timestamp: 1287070664 = Final Code: NVPLPVXZ
> Timestamp: 1287070665 = Final Code: ZNMELNKL
> Timestamp: 1287070666 = Final Code: MGIYQFYW
> Timestamp: 1287070667 = Final Code: MGIXWFYW
> Timestamp: 1287070668 = Final Code: MGIXJFYW
> Timestamp: 1287070669 = Final Code: MGIXTFYW
> Timestamp: 1287070670 = Final Code: NVPJLVXZ
> Timestamp: 1287070671 = Final Code: XKYTPIOF
> Timestamp: 1287070672 = Final Code: ZNMCENKL
> Timestamp: 1287070673 = Final Code: LRCNIQAU
> Timestamp: 1287070674 = Final Code: XKYUTIOF
> Timestamp: 1287070675 = Final Code: ZNMBFNKL
> Timestamp: 1287070676 = Final Code: XKYVQIOF
> Timestamp: 1287070677 = Final Code: MGITWGYW
> Timestamp: 1287070678 = Final Code: ZNMZMNKL
> Timestamp: 1287070679 = Final Code: BCSLMDJN
> Timestamp: 1287070680 = Final Code: BCSLHDJN
> Timestamp: 1287070681 = Final Code: XKYWMIOF
> Timestamp: 1287070682 = Final Code: LRCRXQAU
> Timestamp: 1287070683 = Final Code: LRCRJQAU
> Timestamp: 1287070684 = Final Code: ZNMXROKL
> Timestamp: 1287070685 = Final Code: ZNMWHOKL
> Timestamp: 1287070686 = Final Code: KCVFPACR
> Timestamp: 1287070687 = Final Code: XKYZRIOF
> Timestamp: 1287070688 = Final Code: NVPCJVXZ
> Timestamp: 1287070689 = Final Code: MGIPHGYW
> Timestamp: 1287070690 = Final Code: ZNMVXOKL
> Timestamp: 1287070691 = Final Code: LRCUIQAU
> Timestamp: 1287070692 = Final Code: BCSGRDJN
> Timestamp: 1287070693 = Final Code: NVPALWXZ
> Timestamp: 1287070694 = Final Code: LRCVBQAU
> Timestamp: 1287070695 = Final Code: ZNMTDOKL
> Timestamp: 1287070696 = Final Code: KCVIUACR
> Timestamp: 1287070697 = Final Code: MGIMLGYW
> Timestamp: 1287070698 = Final Code: ZNMRHOKL
> Timestamp: 1287070699 = Final Code: KCVKQACR
> Timestamp: 1287070700 = Final Code: ZNMRYOKL
> Timestamp: 1287070701 = Final Code: MGIKCGYW
> Timestamp: 1287070702 = Final Code: MGIKHGYW
> Timestamp: 1287070703 = Final Code: LRCZQQAU
> Timestamp: 1287070704 = Final Code: YYFTFYMI
> Timestamp: 1287070705 = Final Code: XKYGUIOF
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:18 PM
> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: generating unique codes
>
> I need to stare at this code a bit more. I made it witango 5 compatible 
> (while object and instead of @sleep, I just threw away output based on the 
> same timestamp)
> results
>
> code: NZVWIXXX timestamp: 1287058511
> code: LURAVSXX timestamp: 1287058512
> code: LURAVSXX timestamp: 1287058513
> code: NZVWIXXX timestamp: 1287058514
> code:

Re: Witango-Talk: generating unique codes

2010-10-14 Thread Roland Dumas
I need to stare at this code a bit more. I made it witango 5 compatible (while 
object and instead of @sleep, I just threw away output based on the same 
timestamp)
results

code: NZVWIXXX timestamp: 1287058511
code: LURAVSXX timestamp: 1287058512
code: LURAVSXX timestamp: 1287058513
code: NZVWIXXX timestamp: 1287058514
code: ZLNKFQXX timestamp: 1287058515
code: BNCILFXX timestamp: 1287058516
code: KRCCOCXX timestamp: 1287058517
code: NZVWIXXX timestamp: 1287058518
code: BNCILFXX timestamp: 1287058519
code: BNCILFXX timestamp: 1287058520
code: NZVWIYXX timestamp: 1287058521
code: KRCCOCXX timestamp: 1287058522

Interesting, don't you think?
In a long sequence, the repeats are frequent and and trailing Xs...

Thanks for the start.


On Oct 14, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Robert Shubert wrote:

> Try this out:
>
> <@! start with epoch>
> <@ASSIGN secs <@TSTOSECS <@CURRENTTIMESTAMP>>>
>
> <@! add salt>
> <@ASSIGN secs "<@RANDOM low=1 high=9>@@secs<@RANDOM low=1 high=9>">
>
> <@! convert to base 26>
> <@WHILE expr="@@secs > 26">
>
> <@! shift to ascii for capitals 65-90 convert to char and build code>
> <@IF "<@CURROW>%2 = 0">
>   <@ASSIGN code '<@CHAR <@CALC "abs(@@secs % 26) + 65">>@@code'>
> <@ELSE>
>   <@ASSIGN code '@@code<@CHAR <@CALC "abs(@@secs % 26) + 65">>'>
> 
>
> <@! shift place for base conversion>
> <@ASSIGN secs <@CALC "@@secs / 26" precision=0>>
>
> 
>
> Final Code: @@code
>
> DISCLAIMER: It is possible to create the same code if this routine is run 
> multiple times in the same second. Add a <@SLEEP 1000> to prevent this. Also, 
> there is an abs() in there because doing modulo on large values produces a 
> negative value. This is incorrect behavior on Witango's part and something 
> that I'll need to fix in the server. I do not think it produces a collision 
> problem in this routine, but it may. It is likely tied to small floating 
> point variable used in the routine. Oh, and there is also a rounding error 
> that I didn't work out, but again, it only changed some shift points (26^1 
> place increases at unit=13 rather than unit=0). This can removed by 
> floor()ing the base conversion shift in the final @CALC. Again, I do not 
> believe that this causes a collision situation. Also, this routine can 
> occasionally create a 7 character code. You may need to check for and ignore 
> these if you want them all to 8 characters (This may be able to be eliminated 
> by increasing the LOW value in the first @RANDOM) Lastly, I don't guarantee 
> this routine. I just whipped it up as a mental exercise, so you may want to 
> test it out some (see if you get a collision over a few million iterations), 
> or show it to someone who is good with algorithms or cryptography.
>
> Robert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:42 AM
> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
> Subject: Witango-Talk: generating unique codes
>
>
> looking for method to create unique and non-obvious n-digit codes to be used 
> as discount codes.
> Should be short enough to use as consumer codes (8 digit?), and probably be 
> something simply to enter, such as an all caps, and not have an easily 
> discoverable pattern.
>
> I want to generate unique codes and not have to check the history to see if a 
> code has been used before.
>
> Suggestions?
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: Witango-Talk: generating unique codes

2010-10-14 Thread Roland Dumas
is there a tag that will do a sleep or wait in witango 5.0?

this is generating some interesting output. just want to slow it down to one 
code a second.

On Oct 14, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Robert Shubert wrote:

> Try this out:
>
> <@! start with epoch>
> <@ASSIGN secs <@TSTOSECS <@CURRENTTIMESTAMP>>>
>
> <@! add salt>
> <@ASSIGN secs "<@RANDOM low=1 high=9>@@secs<@RANDOM low=1 high=9>">
>
> <@! convert to base 26>
> <@WHILE expr="@@secs > 26">
>
> <@! shift to ascii for capitals 65-90 convert to char and build code>
> <@IF "<@CURROW>%2 = 0">
>   <@ASSIGN code '<@CHAR <@CALC "abs(@@secs % 26) + 65">>@@code'>
> <@ELSE>
>   <@ASSIGN code '@@code<@CHAR <@CALC "abs(@@secs % 26) + 65">>'>
> 
>
> <@! shift place for base conversion>
> <@ASSIGN secs <@CALC "@@secs / 26" precision=0>>
>
> 
>
> Final Code: @@code
>
> DISCLAIMER: It is possible to create the same code if this routine is run 
> multiple times in the same second. Add a <@SLEEP 1000> to prevent this. Also, 
> there is an abs() in there because doing modulo on large values produces a 
> negative value. This is incorrect behavior on Witango's part and something 
> that I'll need to fix in the server. I do not think it produces a collision 
> problem in this routine, but it may. It is likely tied to small floating 
> point variable used in the routine. Oh, and there is also a rounding error 
> that I didn't work out, but again, it only changed some shift points (26^1 
> place increases at unit=13 rather than unit=0). This can removed by 
> floor()ing the base conversion shift in the final @CALC. Again, I do not 
> believe that this causes a collision situation. Also, this routine can 
> occasionally create a 7 character code. You may need to check for and ignore 
> these if you want them all to 8 characters (This may be able to be eliminated 
> by increasing the LOW value in the first @RANDOM) Lastly, I don't guarantee 
> this routine. I just whipped it up as a mental exercise, so you may want to 
> test it out some (see if you get a collision over a few million iterations), 
> or show it to someone who is good with algorithms or cryptography.
>
> Robert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:42 AM
> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
> Subject: Witango-Talk: generating unique codes
>
>
> looking for method to create unique and non-obvious n-digit codes to be used 
> as discount codes.
> Should be short enough to use as consumer codes (8 digit?), and probably be 
> something simply to enter, such as an all caps, and not have an easily 
> discoverable pattern.
>
> I want to generate unique codes and not have to check the history to see if a 
> code has been used before.
>
> Suggestions?
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: Witango-Talk: generating unique codes

2010-10-14 Thread Roland Dumas
This looks good. THank you. Going to test it out. Was thinking currenttimestamp 
could make it unique, but converting it to non-obvious random-looking code was 
stumping me. thanks.

On Oct 14, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Robert Shubert wrote:

> Try this out:
>
> <@! start with epoch>
> <@ASSIGN secs <@TSTOSECS <@CURRENTTIMESTAMP>>>
>
> <@! add salt>
> <@ASSIGN secs "<@RANDOM low=1 high=9>@@secs<@RANDOM low=1 high=9>">
>
> <@! convert to base 26>
> <@WHILE expr="@@secs > 26">
>
> <@! shift to ascii for capitals 65-90 convert to char and build code>
> <@IF "<@CURROW>%2 = 0">
>   <@ASSIGN code '<@CHAR <@CALC "abs(@@secs % 26) + 65">>@@code'>
> <@ELSE>
>   <@ASSIGN code '@@code<@CHAR <@CALC "abs(@@secs % 26) + 65">>'>
> 
>
> <@! shift place for base conversion>
> <@ASSIGN secs <@CALC "@@secs / 26" precision=0>>
>
> 
>
> Final Code: @@code
>
> DISCLAIMER: It is possible to create the same code if this routine is run 
> multiple times in the same second. Add a <@SLEEP 1000> to prevent this. Also, 
> there is an abs() in there because doing modulo on large values produces a 
> negative value. This is incorrect behavior on Witango's part and something 
> that I'll need to fix in the server. I do not think it produces a collision 
> problem in this routine, but it may. It is likely tied to small floating 
> point variable used in the routine. Oh, and there is also a rounding error 
> that I didn't work out, but again, it only changed some shift points (26^1 
> place increases at unit=13 rather than unit=0). This can removed by 
> floor()ing the base conversion shift in the final @CALC. Again, I do not 
> believe that this causes a collision situation. Also, this routine can 
> occasionally create a 7 character code. You may need to check for and ignore 
> these if you want them all to 8 characters (This may be able to be eliminated 
> by increasing the LOW value in the first @RANDOM) Lastly, I don't guarantee 
> this routine. I just whipped it up as a mental exercise, so you may want to 
> test it out some (see if you get a collision over a few million iterations), 
> or show it to someone who is good with algorithms or cryptography.
>
> Robert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:42 AM
> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
> Subject: Witango-Talk: generating unique codes
>
>
> looking for method to create unique and non-obvious n-digit codes to be used 
> as discount codes.
> Should be short enough to use as consumer codes (8 digit?), and probably be 
> something simply to enter, such as an all caps, and not have an easily 
> discoverable pattern.
>
> I want to generate unique codes and not have to check the history to see if a 
> code has been used before.
>
> Suggestions?
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: Witango-Talk: generating unique codes

2010-10-14 Thread Roland Dumas
Steve,
Thanks. What I'm trying to avoid is generating a code and then having to go 
look through all prior codes to make sure it's unique.Not sure if that would 
end up being a processing burden, but I don't want to risk it.

RAD

On Oct 14, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Steve Smith wrote:

> I gave this some thought and decided to share this with you. You may have 
> already considered this and found reasons why this wouldn't work.
>
> Also, a disclaimer: I haven't been doing a lot of Witango development lately 
> so I might get some of the tags wrong.
>
> Create a table that would have fields for discount code, redeemed (y/n), and 
> a foreign key to the order number or customer number.
>
> When you want to create the code, use the <@RANDOM> tag to create it into a 
> variable. Do a search of the discount code table to see if it has been 
> created before (to ensure it is unique) and if it doesn't exist, add it as a 
> new code. If it does exist, use the <@RANDOM> to generate another one and 
> repeat the check uniqueness procedure.
>
> When it is being redeemed, as part of the checkout procedure, write either 
> the order number or customer number to the appropriate field. Better than 
> going through the order history as I am guessing that many records probably 
> won't have discount codes applied to them. Also might give you benefit of 
> knowing who has redeemed which codes and how often. This might help close 
> loops in the system where users misuse discount codes.
>
>
> Steve Smith
>
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> On 2010-10-14, at 11:42 AM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>
>>
>> looking for method to create unique and non-obvious n-digit codes to be used 
>> as discount codes.
>> Should be short enough to use as consumer codes (8 digit?), and probably be 
>> something simply to enter, such as an all caps, and not have an easily 
>> discoverable pattern.
>>
>> I want to generate unique codes and not have to check the history to see if 
>> a code has been used before.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Witango-Talk: generating unique codes

2010-10-14 Thread Roland Dumas

looking for method to create unique and non-obvious n-digit codes to be used as 
discount codes.
Should be short enough to use as consumer codes (8 digit?), and probably be 
something simply to enter, such as an all caps, and not have an easily 
discoverable pattern.

I want to generate unique codes and not have to check the history to see if a 
code has been used before.

Suggestions?







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Re: Witango-Talk: Standard and Advanced

2010-10-12 Thread Roland Dumas
?? duo processor costs more??

On Oct 12, 2010, at 8:42 PM, Ben Johansen wrote:

> Multiple Instances
> and
> More than 2 processor servers
>
> On Oct 12, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Wayne Irvine wrote:
>
>> I'm guessing this has been covered before but in my cursory glance over the 
>> archives I didn't see it.
>>
>> What is the difference between the Standard and Advanced Servers in version 
>> 6?
>>
>> Wayne Irvine
>>
>>
>>
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Witango-Talk: W6 description

2010-10-06 Thread Roland Dumas

Is there a (prelim) list of new features/functions in witango 6?




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Re: Witango-Talk: Help

2010-08-20 Thread Roland Dumas
Um er more info please?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 20, 2010, at 6:03 PM, "Mcgriff, Gary S. (MSFC-IS70)" 
 wrote:

> Help
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Re: Witango-Talk: Windows 7 Server

2010-08-10 Thread Roland Dumas


On Aug 10, 2010, at 12:28 PM, WebDude wrote:

>
>
>  I know there are some adjustments that will need to be made. I believe that 
> one of these is setting the default scope of all unscoped variables to 
> user... is that correct?

It's correct that you should not make user the default scope. Best to make 
request the default scope.





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Re: Witango-Talk: Announcement - Witango under new ownership

2010-08-02 Thread Roland Dumas
What

It's not April 1.

Could it be Easter, the Resurrection???

On Aug 2, 2010, at 11:43 AM, supp...@witango.com wrote:

>
> To the Witango community:
>
> Tronics Software LLC has purchased the Witango product suite from Witango 
> Technologies Pty Ltd.  We at Tronics Software are extremely excited to launch 
> this new chapter for Witango, and we are dedicated to the ongoing support and 
> development of the Witango products.
>
> Over the next few days and weeks we will be releasing further information 
> about our plans for Witango, the timing of the version 6.0 release, and 
> pricing details.  We are also committed to supporting and expanding the 
> Witango community, and we will be launching community forums and a 
> development blog shortly.
>
> We will post all announcements to the list and to the witango.com website - 
> please check back often!
>
> Thank you all for your continued support of Witango,
>
> Tronics Software LLC
>
>
>
> Tronics Software LLC is a software development company in New Jersey, part of 
> the Tronics group of companies founded by Robert Shubert.  Robert has been a 
> part of the Witango community since 1998 and owns Tronics, the leading 
> Witango web hosting provider.  To contact Tronics Software with questions, 
> please email supp...@witango.com or call (570) 647-4370.
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Re: Witango-Talk: case matching

2010-04-20 Thread Roland Dumas
ok, I see. If I set char set at ascii and collation at ascii_bin, then the 
match becomes case sensitive.  Simplest solution. thank you, again. 

On Apr 20, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Robert Garcia wrote:

> MySQL is not case insensitive. MySQL can EITHER be case sensitive, or case 
> insensitive.
> 
> When you setup a database, or table, or even at the column level, there is a 
> COLLATION option. So if you are using encoding of UTF8, then you are probably 
> using collation of utf8_general_ci. That "ci" on the end, means "case 
> insensitive". If you use utf8_general as your collation, it is CASE 
> SENSITIVE. You set collation at the default level for each database, but you 
> can change a table default, and you can even set this per column if 
> necessary. Generally, it is good practice to make password CASE SENSITIVE.
> 
> -- 
> 
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> President - BigHead Technology
> VP Application Development - eventpix.com
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> 
> On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Roland Dumas wrote:
> 
>> and the follow-up
>> 
>> witango is case insensitive. seems that mysql is also case insensitive.
>> 
>> How do I set a look-up that is case sensitive?  So that password  is not 
>> the same as ?
>> 
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Re: Witango-Talk: case matching

2010-04-20 Thread Roland Dumas
hmm, playing with this. For UTF8, the collation options are utf8_bin and then a 
series of language specific _ci options. 

for ascii, there are choices of ascii_bin and ascii_general_ci

etc.


On Apr 20, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Robert Garcia wrote:

> MySQL is not case insensitive. MySQL can EITHER be case sensitive, or case 
> insensitive.
> 
> When you setup a database, or table, or even at the column level, there is a 
> COLLATION option. So if you are using encoding of UTF8, then you are probably 
> using collation of utf8_general_ci. That "ci" on the end, means "case 
> insensitive". If you use utf8_general as your collation, it is CASE 
> SENSITIVE. You set collation at the default level for each database, but you 
> can change a table default, and you can even set this per column if 
> necessary. Generally, it is good practice to make password CASE SENSITIVE.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Robert Garcia
> President - BigHead Technology
> VP Application Development - eventpix.com
> 15520 Coutelenc Rd
> Magalia, Ca 95954
> ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
> rgar...@bighead.net - rgar...@eventpix.com
> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/
> 
> On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Roland Dumas wrote:
> 
>> and the follow-up
>> 
>> witango is case insensitive. seems that mysql is also case insensitive.
>> 
>> How do I set a look-up that is case sensitive?  So that password  is not 
>> the same as ?
>> 
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Re: Witango-Talk: case matching

2010-04-20 Thread Roland Dumas
another winner suggestion. thank you again. 
On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Robert Shubert wrote:

> I know for sure that @cipher is in 5.0, but it may work a little
> differently.
> 
> You certainly can do this comparison in the search action if you:
> 
> A) store the password as the HASH (do one of the @ciphers when you set the
> password)
> Or
> B) use MySQLs HASH function, at quick glance I think you would do
> "MD5(password_column)" as a custom search criteria column.
> 
> Since I use Witango 5.5 and MS SQL primarily, YMMV
> 
> Robert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:19 PM
> To: witango-talk@witango.com
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: case matching
> 
> <@cipher> in witango 5.0?
> 
> if so, can this be done in the search action?
> 
> 
> On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Robert Shubert wrote:
> 
>> @IF <@CIPHER action=hash type=md5 str=db_password> = <@CIPHER action=hash
>> type=md5 str=arg_password>
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:09 PM
>> To: witango-talk@witango.com
>> Subject: Witango-Talk: case matching
>> 
>> and the follow-up
>> 
>> witango is case insensitive. seems that mysql is also case insensitive.
>> 
>> How do I set a look-up that is case sensitive?  So that password  is
> not
>> the same as ?



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Re: Witango-Talk: case matching

2010-04-20 Thread Roland Dumas
ah, this works on 5.0  Thanks!

On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Robert Shubert wrote:

> @IF <@CIPHER action=hash type=md5 str=db_password> = <@CIPHER action=hash
> type=md5 str=arg_password>
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:09 PM
> To: witango-talk@witango.com
> Subject: Witango-Talk: case matching
> 
> and the follow-up
> 
> witango is case insensitive. seems that mysql is also case insensitive.
> 
> How do I set a look-up that is case sensitive?  So that password  is not
> the same as ?

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Re: Witango-Talk: case matching

2010-04-20 Thread Roland Dumas
<@cipher> in witango 5.0?

if so, can this be done in the search action?


On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Robert Shubert wrote:

> @IF <@CIPHER action=hash type=md5 str=db_password> = <@CIPHER action=hash
> type=md5 str=arg_password>
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:09 PM
> To: witango-talk@witango.com
> Subject: Witango-Talk: case matching
> 
> and the follow-up
> 
> witango is case insensitive. seems that mysql is also case insensitive.
> 
> How do I set a look-up that is case sensitive?  So that password  is not
> the same as ?
> 
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Witango-Talk: case matching

2010-04-20 Thread Roland Dumas
and the follow-up

witango is case insensitive. seems that mysql is also case insensitive.

How do I set a look-up that is case sensitive?  So that password  is not 
the same as ?

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Re: Witango-Talk: random password generator

2010-04-20 Thread Roland Dumas
thank you all for privately and posted snippets. 
On Apr 20, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Roland Dumas wrote:

> 
> any ideas on how to generate temporary passwords in witango? @RANDOM will 
> give me an integer, yes, but how to create combination of integer/alpha not 
> obvious. 
> 
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Witango-Talk: random password generator

2010-04-20 Thread Roland Dumas

any ideas on how to generate temporary passwords in witango? @RANDOM will give 
me an integer, yes, but how to create combination of integer/alpha not obvious. 


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Re: Witango-Talk: date sent on mail actions is off

2010-04-11 Thread Roland Dumas
wait a minute. DST started on the first sunday in april as of 1986 (in the US). 
THe system clock knows the time, time zone, and that it's daylight saving. 
witango is off. I don't recall this happening last year or the year before. The 
witango log is stamping the right time, just emails get pushed forward an hour. 

On Apr 11, 2010, at 9:16 AM, Steve Smith wrote:

> Remember that this should go away in a couple of weeks. My guess is that if 
> there is a problem with the code, it is because the rules were created when 
> DST started on the last Sunday in April. 
> 
> Steve Smith
> 
> Oakbridge Information Solutions
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> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 2010-04-11, at 11:34 AM, Roland Dumas  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks. I'm running two servers with witango 5 and they both have the same 
>> problem. I'm using the services of a witango server 5.5, and it's giving me 
>> correct datetime on emails.
>> Now to figure out a workaround...
>> 
>> On Apr 11, 2010, at 12:15 AM, D. Richardy wrote:
>> 
>>> It looks like Witango's daylight time handling code is wrong.
>>> ...
>>> Not only this.
>>>  
>>> Just my 1 Cent from Europe.
>>> PS: ANY NEWS ABOUT WITAN"GO" 6. Or is it a really WIT(h)-ON-"GO"
>>>  
>>> Mail from Phil (29-04-2008):
>>> Hi all,
>>> Before this thread gets a life of its own let me just say that there is 
>>> more to this release as we move to commercial open source model than just 
>>> software.   We have basically finished the engineering but there are still 
>>> some legal and business issues we are continuing to work through.
>>> 
>>> It all takes time and we are not just sitting here idly.  While we have 
>>> been waiting for these issue to be resolved we have been adding extra 
>>> features to the studio.  As soon as I can release v6 I will.  
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Phil
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Anthony Humphreys
>>> To: witango-talk@witango.com
>>> Cc: Roland Dumas
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 6:48 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: date sent on mail actions is off
>>> 
>>> Witango shouldn't have its own Timezone rules; Witango should use the 
>>> server's local time and offset (from GMT).
>>> However, Witango does need to reformat the time to specific SMTP format. 
>>> However, this reformat is the ONLY thing that Witango should be doing.
>>> 
>>> PDT stands for Pacific Daylight Time and has an offset of -0700. 
>>> PST stands for Pacific Standard Time and has an offset of -0800.
>>> 
>>> 13:43:47 -0700 PDT is not equivalent to 2:43:47 PM PDT
>>> 
>>> It looks like Witango's daylight time handling code is wrong.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Roland Dumas  wrote:
>>> does the tango server had its own date rules?  I didn't see anything in 
>>> witango.ini that set the time zone.
>>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Steve Smith wrote:
>>> 
>>> > Could it have something to do with the fact that the Witango code was 
>>> > created before the new rules came into effect for Daylite Savings Time in 
>>> > 2007?
>>> >
>>> > Steve Smith
>>> >
>>> > Oakbridge Information Solutions
>>> > Oakville Office: (416) 628-0793
>>> > Cambridge Office:   (519) 489-0142
>>> > Email:  ssm...@oakbridge.ca
>>> > Web: www.oakbridge.ca
>>> >
>>> > Certified DayLite Master Partner
>>> > Certified DayLite Trainer
>>> > Billings Consultant
>>> > FileMaker Solutions Alliance Member
>>> > MoneyWorks Consultant
>>> > LightSpeed Authorized Reseller
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPad
>>> >
>>> > On 2010-04-10, at 12:19 PM, Roland Dumas  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Anyone have a clue why witango mail action gets timestamp off an hour?
>>> >>
>>> >> On Apr 9, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>>> >>

Re: Witango-Talk: date sent on mail actions is off

2010-04-11 Thread Roland Dumas
that was my hypothesis. 

On Apr 11, 2010, at 9:16 AM, Steve Smith wrote:

> Remember that this should go away in a couple of weeks. My guess is that if 
> there is a problem with the code, it is because the rules were created when 
> DST started on the last Sunday in April. 
> 
> Steve Smith
> 
> Oakbridge Information Solutions
> Oakville Office: (416) 628-0793
> Cambridge Office:   (519) 489-0142
> Email:  ssm...@oakbridge.ca
> Web: www.oakbridge.ca
> 
> Certified DayLite Master Partner
> Certified DayLite Trainer
> Billings Consultant
> FileMaker Solutions Alliance Member
> MoneyWorks Consultant
> LightSpeed Authorized Reseller
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 2010-04-11, at 11:34 AM, Roland Dumas  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks. I'm running two servers with witango 5 and they both have the same 
>> problem. I'm using the services of a witango server 5.5, and it's giving me 
>> correct datetime on emails.
>> Now to figure out a workaround...
>> 
>> On Apr 11, 2010, at 12:15 AM, D. Richardy wrote:
>> 
>>> It looks like Witango's daylight time handling code is wrong.
>>> ...
>>> Not only this.
>>>  
>>> Just my 1 Cent from Europe.
>>> PS: ANY NEWS ABOUT WITAN"GO" 6. Or is it a really WIT(h)-ON-"GO"
>>>  
>>> Mail from Phil (29-04-2008):
>>> Hi all,
>>> Before this thread gets a life of its own let me just say that there is 
>>> more to this release as we move to commercial open source model than just 
>>> software.   We have basically finished the engineering but there are still 
>>> some legal and business issues we are continuing to work through.
>>> 
>>> It all takes time and we are not just sitting here idly.  While we have 
>>> been waiting for these issue to be resolved we have been adding extra 
>>> features to the studio.  As soon as I can release v6 I will.  
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Phil
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Anthony Humphreys
>>> To: witango-talk@witango.com
>>> Cc: Roland Dumas
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 6:48 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: date sent on mail actions is off
>>> 
>>> Witango shouldn't have its own Timezone rules; Witango should use the 
>>> server's local time and offset (from GMT).
>>> However, Witango does need to reformat the time to specific SMTP format. 
>>> However, this reformat is the ONLY thing that Witango should be doing.
>>> 
>>> PDT stands for Pacific Daylight Time and has an offset of -0700. 
>>> PST stands for Pacific Standard Time and has an offset of -0800.
>>> 
>>> 13:43:47 -0700 PDT is not equivalent to 2:43:47 PM PDT
>>> 
>>> It looks like Witango's daylight time handling code is wrong.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Roland Dumas  wrote:
>>> does the tango server had its own date rules?  I didn't see anything in 
>>> witango.ini that set the time zone.
>>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Steve Smith wrote:
>>> 
>>> > Could it have something to do with the fact that the Witango code was 
>>> > created before the new rules came into effect for Daylite Savings Time in 
>>> > 2007?
>>> >
>>> > Steve Smith
>>> >
>>> > Oakbridge Information Solutions
>>> > Oakville Office: (416) 628-0793
>>> > Cambridge Office:   (519) 489-0142
>>> > Email:  ssm...@oakbridge.ca
>>> > Web: www.oakbridge.ca
>>> >
>>> > Certified DayLite Master Partner
>>> > Certified DayLite Trainer
>>> > Billings Consultant
>>> > FileMaker Solutions Alliance Member
>>> > MoneyWorks Consultant
>>> > LightSpeed Authorized Reseller
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPad
>>> >
>>> > On 2010-04-10, at 12:19 PM, Roland Dumas  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Anyone have a clue why witango mail action gets timestamp off an hour?
>>> >>
>>> >> On Apr 9, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> This is an example: Note the date field says 2:43 PM while the 
>>> >>> header correctly shows 1:43 PM.  This discrepancy happens only for 
>>> >>> witango mail action generated messages.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>&g

Re: Witango-Talk: date sent on mail actions is off

2010-04-11 Thread Roland Dumas
Thanks. I'm running two servers with witango 5 and they both have the same 
problem. I'm using the services of a witango server 5.5, and it's giving me 
correct datetime on emails.
Now to figure out a workaround...

On Apr 11, 2010, at 12:15 AM, D. Richardy wrote:

> It looks like Witango's daylight time handling code is wrong.
> ...
> Not only this.
>  
> Just my 1 Cent from Europe.
> PS: ANY NEWS ABOUT WITAN"GO" 6. Or is it a really WIT(h)-ON-"GO"
>  
> Mail from Phil (29-04-2008):
> Hi all,
> Before this thread gets a life of its own let me just say that there is more 
> to this release as we move to commercial open source model than just 
> software.   We have basically finished the engineering but there are still 
> some legal and business issues we are continuing to work through.
> 
> It all takes time and we are not just sitting here idly.  While we have been 
> waiting for these issue to be resolved we have been adding extra features to 
> the studio.  As soon as I can release v6 I will.  
> 
> Regards
> 
> Phil
> - Original Message -
> From: Anthony Humphreys
> To: witango-talk@witango.com
> Cc: Roland Dumas
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 6:48 AM
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: date sent on mail actions is off
> 
> Witango shouldn't have its own Timezone rules; Witango should use the 
> server's local time and offset (from GMT).
> However, Witango does need to reformat the time to specific SMTP format. 
> However, this reformat is the ONLY thing that Witango should be doing.
> 
> PDT stands for Pacific Daylight Time and has an offset of -0700. 
> PST stands for Pacific Standard Time and has an offset of -0800.
> 
> 13:43:47 -0700 PDT is not equivalent to 2:43:47 PM PDT
> 
> It looks like Witango's daylight time handling code is wrong.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Roland Dumas  wrote:
> does the tango server had its own date rules?  I didn't see anything in 
> witango.ini that set the time zone.
> 
> On Apr 10, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Steve Smith wrote:
> 
> > Could it have something to do with the fact that the Witango code was 
> > created before the new rules came into effect for Daylite Savings Time in 
> > 2007?
> >
> > Steve Smith
> >
> > Oakbridge Information Solutions
> > Oakville Office: (416) 628-0793
> > Cambridge Office:   (519) 489-0142
> > Email:  ssm...@oakbridge.ca
> > Web: www.oakbridge.ca
> >
> > Certified DayLite Master Partner
> > Certified DayLite Trainer
> > Billings Consultant
> > FileMaker Solutions Alliance Member
> > MoneyWorks Consultant
> > LightSpeed Authorized Reseller
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On 2010-04-10, at 12:19 PM, Roland Dumas  wrote:
> >
> >> Anyone have a clue why witango mail action gets timestamp off an hour?
> >>
> >> On Apr 9, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
> >>
> >>> This is an example: Note the date field says 2:43 PM while the header 
> >>> correctly shows 1:43 PM.  This discrepancy happens only for witango mail 
> >>> action generated messages.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> DateApril 9, 2010 2:43:47 PM PDT
> >>> To: Roland Dumas 
> >>> Received:   from Imagineworks.localhost (mail.imagineworks.com 
> >>> [64.151.109.164]) BY imagineworks.com ([64.151.109.164]) WITH ESMTP (4D 
> >>> WebSTAR V Mail (5.4.1)); Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:43:47 -0700
> >>> Received:   from myunknowndomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 
> >>> Imagineworks.localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C52718023B for 
> >>> ; Fri,  9 Apr 2010 13:43:47 -0700 (PDT)
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 9, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> as of daylight saving time, the "sent" date on messages originating in 
> >>>> witango mail actions is off by an hour. THey are an hour later than 
> >>>> actual.
> >>>>
> >>>> The clock on the server is correct and has the right time zone
> >>>> Messages going through the same mail server are all stamped correctly
> >>>> The headers of the messages have the correct timestamps in them
> >>>>
> >>>> However, in mail clients that have "datetime sent" and 'datetime 
> >>>> received'  show this disparity of an hour. The 'sent' value is ahead by 
> >>>> an hour.  I cannot figure it out, other than it's related to a witan

Re: Witango-Talk: date sent on mail actions is off

2010-04-10 Thread Roland Dumas
does the tango server had its own date rules?  I didn't see anything in 
witango.ini that set the time zone. 

On Apr 10, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Steve Smith wrote:

> Could it have something to do with the fact that the Witango code was created 
> before the new rules came into effect for Daylite Savings Time in 2007?
> 
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> On 2010-04-10, at 12:19 PM, Roland Dumas  wrote:
> 
>> Anyone have a clue why witango mail action gets timestamp off an hour?
>> 
>> On Apr 9, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>> 
>>> This is an example: Note the date field says 2:43 PM while the header 
>>> correctly shows 1:43 PM.  This discrepancy happens only for witango mail 
>>> action generated messages.   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> DateApril 9, 2010 2:43:47 PM PDT
>>> To: Roland Dumas 
>>> Received:   from Imagineworks.localhost (mail.imagineworks.com 
>>> [64.151.109.164]) BY imagineworks.com ([64.151.109.164]) WITH ESMTP (4D 
>>> WebSTAR V Mail (5.4.1)); Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:43:47 -0700
>>> Received:   from myunknowndomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 
>>> Imagineworks.localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C52718023B for 
>>> ; Fri,  9 Apr 2010 13:43:47 -0700 (PDT)
>>> 
>>> On Apr 9, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>>> 
>>>> as of daylight saving time, the "sent" date on messages originating in 
>>>> witango mail actions is off by an hour. THey are an hour later than actual.
>>>> 
>>>> The clock on the server is correct and has the right time zone
>>>> Messages going through the same mail server are all stamped correctly
>>>> The headers of the messages have the correct timestamps in them
>>>> 
>>>> However, in mail clients that have "datetime sent" and 'datetime received' 
>>>>  show this disparity of an hour. The 'sent' value is ahead by an hour.  I 
>>>> cannot figure it out, other than it's related to a witango mail action. 
>>>> 
>>>> any clues?
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Witango-Talk: date sent on mail actions is off

2010-04-10 Thread Roland Dumas
Anyone have a clue why witango mail action gets timestamp off an hour?

On Apr 9, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:

>   This is an example: Note the date field says 2:43 PM while the header 
> correctly shows 1:43 PM.  This discrepancy happens only for witango mail 
> action generated messages.   
> 
> 
>   DateApril 9, 2010 2:43:47 PM PDT
>   To: Roland Dumas 
>   Received:   from Imagineworks.localhost (mail.imagineworks.com 
> [64.151.109.164]) BY imagineworks.com ([64.151.109.164]) WITH ESMTP (4D 
> WebSTAR V Mail (5.4.1)); Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:43:47 -0700
>   Received:   from myunknowndomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 
> Imagineworks.localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C52718023B for 
> ; Fri,  9 Apr 2010 13:43:47 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> On Apr 9, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
> 
>> as of daylight saving time, the "sent" date on messages originating in 
>> witango mail actions is off by an hour. THey are an hour later than actual.
>> 
>> The clock on the server is correct and has the right time zone
>> Messages going through the same mail server are all stamped correctly
>> The headers of the messages have the correct timestamps in them
>> 
>> However, in mail clients that have "datetime sent" and 'datetime received'  
>> show this disparity of an hour. The 'sent' value is ahead by an hour.  I 
>> cannot figure it out, other than it's related to a witango mail action. 
>> 
>> any clues?
>> 
>> 
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Re: Witango-Talk: date sent on mail actions is off

2010-04-09 Thread Roland Dumas
This is an example: Note the date field says 2:43 PM while the header 
correctly shows 1:43 PM.  This discrepancy happens only for witango mail action 
generated messages.   


DateApril 9, 2010 2:43:47 PM PDT
To: Roland Dumas 
Received:   from Imagineworks.localhost (mail.imagineworks.com 
[64.151.109.164]) BY imagineworks.com ([64.151.109.164]) WITH ESMTP (4D WebSTAR 
V Mail (5.4.1)); Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:43:47 -0700
Received:   from myunknowndomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 
Imagineworks.localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C52718023B for 
; Fri,  9 Apr 2010 13:43:47 -0700 (PDT)

On Apr 9, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:

> as of daylight saving time, the "sent" date on messages originating in 
> witango mail actions is off by an hour. THey are an hour later than actual.
> 
> The clock on the server is correct and has the right time zone
> Messages going through the same mail server are all stamped correctly
> The headers of the messages have the correct timestamps in them
> 
> However, in mail clients that have "datetime sent" and 'datetime received'  
> show this disparity of an hour. The 'sent' value is ahead by an hour.  I 
> cannot figure it out, other than it's related to a witango mail action. 
> 
> any clues?
> 
> 
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Witango-Talk: date sent on mail actions is off

2010-04-09 Thread Roland Dumas
as of daylight saving time, the "sent" date on messages originating in witango 
mail actions is off by an hour. THey are an hour later than actual.

The clock on the server is correct and has the right time zone
Messages going through the same mail server are all stamped correctly
The headers of the messages have the correct timestamps in them

However, in mail clients that have "datetime sent" and 'datetime received'  
show this disparity of an hour. The 'sent' value is ahead by an hour.  I cannot 
figure it out, other than it's related to a witango mail action. 

any clues?


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Witango-Talk: any word?

2010-03-02 Thread Roland Dumas

was a 6.0 announcement made? A hint? A gesture?

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Re: Witango-Talk: Changing comma delim to semicolon delim in the Mail Action

2010-02-06 Thread Roland Dumas
You're trying to create a hyperlink, not insert the address in a mail action, 
ok.

You can either create a one-row array with the column delimiter=;  or you can 
spin your string with an <@ROWS><@COL NUM=X>;

On Feb 6, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Webdude wrote:

> The reason is simple... most email clients seperate multiple addresses by 
> semicolon. If you load a db table with a string of emails that are comma 
> delimited, you cannot create a hyperlink that will load the emails into the 
> email client automatically. For example, a string of emails returned from a 
> table like thus...
> 
> us...@mail1.com,us...@mail2.com,us...@mail3.com
> 
> when usung a hyperlink like this...
> 
>  href="mailto:us...@mail1.com,us...@mail2.com,us...@mail3.com";>us...@mail1.com,us...@mail2.com,us...@mail3.com
> 
> will not work, but it works fine using the Witango email action. 
> 
> But when using a string like this...
> 
> us...@mail1.com;us...@mail2.com;us...@mail3.com
> 
> And using a hyperlink like this...
> 
>  href="mailto:us...@mail1.com;us...@mail2.com;us...@mail3.com";>us...@mail1.com,;us...@mail2.com;us...@mail3.com
> 
> Works for the email client, but not the email action in Witango.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original message-
> From: Ben Johansen b...@webspinr.com
> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 15:31:54 -0600
> To: witango-talk@witango.com
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Changing comma delim to semicolon delim in the 
> Mail Action
> 
> 
> at a loss for why?, but according to RFC 2822 comma is the only separator 
> allowed"The destination fields of a message consist of three possible fields,
>   each of the same form: The field name, which is either "To", "Cc", or
>   "Bcc", followed by a comma-separated list of one or more addresses
> "Read more: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2822.html#ixzz0ehQZoxaH
> On Feb 5, 2010, at 8:35 AM, WebDude wrote:
> Is this possible? I mean, when adding multiple emails in the To:, CC:, etc. 
> in the Mail Action.  I know I can do a replace character... Thanks!   
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Re: Witango-Talk: SQL question: combining results

2010-01-22 Thread Roland Dumas
what was the error you got after the UNION?
On Jan 22, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Brian Humes wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I have the following in a Direct DBMS action:
> 
> //begin SQL
> declare @phone_id int
> declare @manu varchar(50)
> declare @phone_name varchar(50)
> declare @carrier_id int
> declare @carrier varchar(50)
> declare @rownum_phones int
> declare phonelist cursor for
> SELECT  DISTINCT 
> b1.phone_id,b2.manufacturer,b1.phone_name,b3.carrier_id,c1.carrier FROM 
> dbo.bc_phone b1,dbo.bc_manufacturer b2,dbo.bc_pmc2 b3,dbo.bc_marketxdevice 
> b4, dbo.bc_carrier c1 WHERE ((b3.status1='approved1' OR b3.status1='failed1') 
> AND (b4.market_id=1) AND ((b1.manufacturer_id=b2.manufacturer_id) AND 
> (b3.phone_id=b1.phone_id) AND (b4.phone_id=b3.phone_id) AND (b3.carrier_id = 
> c1.carrier_id))
> open phonelist
>fetch next from phonelist into 
> @phone_id,@manu,@phone_name,@carrier_id,@carrier
>set @rownum_phones = 0
>while <@literal value="@@FETCH_STATUS"> = 0
>begin
>set @rownum_phones = @rownum_phones + 1
>if (SELECT COUNT(b1.phone_id) FROM dbo.bc_pvc b1,dbo.bc_carrier 
> b2,dbo.bc_pmc2 b3 WHERE (b1.phone_...@phone_id AND b1.carrier_...@carrier_id) 
> AND ((b2.carrier_id=b1.carrier_id) AND (b3.phone_id=b1.phone_id))) = 0
>select @manu,@phone_name,@carrier
>fetch next from phonelist into 
> @phone_id,@manu,@phone_name,@carrier_id,@carrier
>end
>close phonelist
> deallocate phonelist
> //end SQL
> 
> The SQL call returns a list (phonelist) and then loops through that list to 
> find if some conditions are met. If so (if zero records are returned) then I 
> simply "print" the variables using a select call. So, Witango stores the 
> first return returned value, but no more. I need to get all of them.
> 
> I tried putting in a UNION and UNION ALL beneath the "select 
> @manu,@phone_name,@carrier", but I got errors (presumably because I was 
> putting the UNION after the last cycle?).
> 
> Any ideas on how I can get all of the results? By the way, I was doing this 
> using Witango (search, then loop, then test for zero, then addrows to an 
> array) but it was taking WAY too long.
> 
> MS SQL Server 2005.
> 
> Any help would be greatly, greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Witango-Talk: selecting records with same calendar month

2010-01-18 Thread Roland Dumas
Ah, tokenize the input, take the month and year pieces and query for month and 
year with a direct dbms
Works

Thank you. 

On Jan 18, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Ben Johansen wrote:

> Depends on database, but let's say for MySql
> you could do
> Select * from table where month(datefield) = 3
> and you would get only the March dates
> 
> On Jan 18, 2010, at 1:35 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Given: table with event records. One column is a date field.
>> 
>> Question: how do I request a date and get back only records in the same 
>> calendar month as the requested date?
>> 
>> Ex: I put in 05/06/2010 and get back a set of records that are all 05/XX/2010
>> 
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Witango-Talk: selecting records with same calendar month

2010-01-18 Thread Roland Dumas

Given: table with event records. One column is a date field.

Question: how do I request a date and get back only records in the same 
calendar month as the requested date?  

Ex: I put in 05/06/2010 and get back a set of records that are all 05/XX/2010


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Re: Witango-Talk: Calendar

2010-01-07 Thread Roland Dumas
I'm in need of a calendar taf  
Does this or any other exist as a shared app?


On Apr 25, 2006, at 10:03 AM, William M Conlon wrote:

> http://www3.tothept.com/examples/calendar.taf
> 
> I was planning on contributing this, probably under the GNU license, on 
> sourceforge.
> 
> bill
> On Apr 25, 2006, at 7:46 AM, Rick Sanders wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello list,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I’m just wondering if anyone has created a calendar in WiTango. I’m doing an 
>> events calendar for a client. I can program it myself, but it’s much easier 
>> if someone has one to share.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rick Sanders
>> President
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Re: Witango-Talk: Help needed

2010-01-04 Thread Roland Dumas
FWIW: avoid iframes. I just went through that exercise. Each version of MSIE 
regards iframe a little differently, sometimes defaulting to disallowing them. 
Better to use DIVs that have absolute positioning

On Jan 2, 2010, at 1:19 PM, d...@dss-db.com wrote:

> D,
> Thanks but I don't need any help with the calculation I already am doing it 
> with witango. Its setting up the web service or iframe to run this in we are 
> probably going with Web service and Ben J will handle it. Thanks for the 
> offer.
> 
> Sent from My Web Mail Account
> Dan Stein MSN
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> www.dss-db.com
> land: 215-799-0192
> 
> 
> From: "D. Richardy" 
> Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 1:33 PM
> To: witango-talk@witango.com
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Help needed
> 
> Dan,
> 
> if you use MySQL, you can create a MySQL function (procedure), to calculate 
> the results directly in MySQL. Then you can grap the result as resultset 
> with Witango.
> 
> But I'm sure, that you can also do the calculation directly with a Witango 
> .taf-file.
> 
> regards
> 
> Daniel
> 
> PS.: If you like, I can do the job for you with Witango. But pls. contact me 
> in this case directly. Not on the list.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dan Stein" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:34 PM
> Subject: Witango-Talk: Help needed
> 
> 
> OK not user how if if I can do this one.
> My client wants to give code for a form out to his clients that will submit 
> a zip code and distance to our site run through a taf file and return a 
> list.
> 
> It works on this page on our site
> http://www.needymeds.org/drugcard/index.shtml
> He would prefer they don't end up on our site after they submit the form
> 
> I thought this might be done with framesets but I have not worked with them 
> much.
> 
> Not sure how they submit to our site and the results page ends up being 
> frmaed in their site.
> 
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Re: Witango-Talk: Dreamweaver and Witango

2009-12-11 Thread Roland Dumas
I think that is no longer useable. It was a few versions of DW ago. You have to 
go and edit some files so that it recognizes .tml. I've done it a few times, 
but forget all the places you have to edit, but it's in the archives.
On Dec 11, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Ben Johansen wrote:

> There is a link from Witango site to webenergy that fails 
> (http://witango.webenergy-sw.com/)
> it was a plugin to dreamweaver so that dreamweaver would recognize witango 
> tags.
> 
> I have dreamweaver CS4 (version 10.0 build 4117)
> 
> Does someone have a plugin that will make dreamweaver just recognize witango 
> tags?
> 
> 
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> http://www.webspinr.com
> b...@webspinr.com
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Witango-Talk: crontab on macosx

2009-12-05 Thread Roland Dumas
Trying to get a taf fired off on a daily routine. I go to witango.ini and enter 
the path to the crontab file, the user file, not the system. Then, I try to set 
a crontab in the witango admin. It says no go. It doesn't have access to the 
crontab file. 

Any tricks here?

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Re: Witango-Talk: encrypting into mysql

2009-11-24 Thread Roland Dumas
thanks. that looks promising.

On Nov 24, 2009, at 11:11 AM, Robert Garcia wrote:

> I would agree using mysql, but I think you mean use aes_crypt() 
> aes_decrypt(), or encode decode, there is no decrypt().
> 
> So to insert a record
> 
> insert into sometable ('name','somestringname') values 
> ('namevalue',aes_crypt('somestringvalue','somekey'))
> 
> Then to retrieve unencrypted:
> 
> select name, aes_decrypt(somestringname,'somekey') as somestringname from 
> sometable where name = 'smith'
> 
> something like that.
> 
> -- 
> 
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> President - BigHead Technology
> VP Application Development - eventpix.com
> 13653 West Park Dr
> Magalia, Ca 95954
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> 
> On Nov 24, 2009, at 10:08 AM, John McGowan wrote:
> 
>> Roland,
>> 
>> Since you mentioned specifically mysql, don't forget that you can do your 
>> encryption with a mysql function call.  So you just need to do a custom 
>> column or a direcdbms action.
>> 
>> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/encryption-functions.html
>> 
>> you can call encrypt() when doing inserts or updates and call decrypt() when 
>> doing selects 
>> 
>> There are other variations, so take a look at the link above and go from 
>> there.
>> 
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Re: Witango-Talk: encrypting into mysql

2009-11-24 Thread Roland Dumas
thank you. I'm ignorant about these things and need more explicit steps:

how does one "hash" a string? There's no <@hash> tag in witango

What if you really want the unhashed string back out? Say, a credit card number?




On Nov 24, 2009, at 8:17 AM, Beverly Voth wrote:

> On 11/24/09 11:08 AM, "Roland Dumas"  wrote in whole or in
> part:
> 
>> 
>> How does one insert a field into a database - mysql - so that it ends up
>> encrypted?
>> Needless to say, the field must be unencryptable in order to compare it to
>> submissions, as in a password, or unencryptable for export, as in a cc 
>> number.
>> 
>> How does this work?
> 
> Typically, the data is hashed before INSERT. Then the data to "compare" is
> also hashed and the two are compared. You don't need to "un-hash" the stored
> information before comparison.
> 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographic_hash_function>
> 
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Witango-Talk: encrypting into mysql

2009-11-24 Thread Roland Dumas

How does one insert a field into a database - mysql - so that it ends up 
encrypted?
Needless to say, the field must be unencryptable in order to compare it to 
submissions, as in a password, or unencryptable for export, as in a cc number. 

How does this work?


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Re: Witango-Talk: the case of the disappearing cookie....

2009-11-16 Thread Roland Dumas
I was cognitively impaired in two ways. I didn't know the push interfered with 
cookie setting and I'd completely forgotten that I'd put a push on some actions 
when I was debugging. So I didn't see it and didn't know it was important. I'd 
spent too much time trying to come up with the conditions where the cookie set 
failed and came up with a very elaborate and very wrong hypothesis. Egg on face.

Again, thank you. 

On Nov 15, 2009, at 5:14 PM, Anthony Humphreys wrote:

> Cookies are all about the HTTP header, and any TAF files which touch the HTTP 
> hearder, including setting cookies, cannot use any actions which are marked 
> "push."
> Witango's "Push" is about equivalent to the flush buffer commands in other 
> languages; it empty's the accumulated "Results" and "pushes" it to the 
> browser, ergo the monker: Push.
>  
> Once at least some HTML has been sent, so has the whiole HTTP header at it 
> always precedes any HTML. This means that you can do nothing else whch can 
> affect the header, including setting cookies after using a "push."
> 
> 
>  
> On 11/15/09, Roland Dumas  wrote:
> AHA!
> 
>  
> I'd put a push on an action when testing it. Thank you thank you. 
> 
> 
> On Nov 15, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Anthony Humphreys wrote:
> 
>> I know that any cookies won't get set when you have any actions "push"ed 
>> before the assignement. This is because the cookie is set in the HTTP header 
>> which is sent when the first bit of HTML is sent by Witango to the browser.
>> You can set the cookie(s) using JavaScript at anytime you're also sending 
>> back HTML.
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> On 11/15/09, Roland Dumas  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm going batty. A simple enough thing: setting a cookie. Whether I do it 
>> with an assign action or an <@assign> tag, the following occurs
>> 
>> a taf with JUST the assignment works. The cookie is set. I can set it, 
>> re-set it, change the expiry. It behaves as expected in a single step taf.
>> 
>> Put that action in a longer taf (dragging the action from the test taf to 
>> the one I'm working on), and the debug shows the cookie assignment. I can 
>> put all kinds of displays in the taf to show that it is alive through the 
>> last return. The cookie isn't set. It behaves like a request scope. As soon 
>> as the taf completes, it's vanished. It never appears in the browser.
>> 
>> So, I put a branch and return action from the taf to the one-action taf that 
>> had successfully set the cookie. No go. It isn't persistent. Another request 
>> scope cookie.
>> 
>> There aren't any <@purge> tags that affect cookie scope and there is no 
>> other cookie assignment in the application that might be conflicting. What 
>> might cause a cookie to expire as soon as the taf completes?
>> 
>> just found one more clue: If an assignment is made within IF/ELSEIF/THEN 
>> logic, it expires at the completion of the taf. If it is made outside of any 
>> conditional actions, it sets. Anyone seen this before?
>> 
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Re: Witango-Talk: the case of the disappearing cookie....

2009-11-15 Thread Roland Dumas
AHA!

I'd put a push on an action when testing it. Thank you thank you. 

On Nov 15, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Anthony Humphreys wrote:

> I know that any cookies won't get set when you have any actions "push"ed 
> before the assignement. This is because the cookie is set in the HTTP header 
> which is sent when the first bit of HTML is sent by Witango to the browser.
> You can set the cookie(s) using JavaScript at anytime you're also sending 
> back HTML.
>  
> 
>  
> On 11/15/09, Roland Dumas  wrote:
> 
> I'm going batty. A simple enough thing: setting a cookie. Whether I do it 
> with an assign action or an <@assign> tag, the following occurs
> 
> a taf with JUST the assignment works. The cookie is set. I can set it, re-set 
> it, change the expiry. It behaves as expected in a single step taf.
> 
> Put that action in a longer taf (dragging the action from the test taf to the 
> one I'm working on), and the debug shows the cookie assignment. I can put all 
> kinds of displays in the taf to show that it is alive through the last 
> return. The cookie isn't set. It behaves like a request scope. As soon as the 
> taf completes, it's vanished. It never appears in the browser.
> 
> So, I put a branch and return action from the taf to the one-action taf that 
> had successfully set the cookie. No go. It isn't persistent. Another request 
> scope cookie.
> 
> There aren't any <@purge> tags that affect cookie scope and there is no other 
> cookie assignment in the application that might be conflicting. What might 
> cause a cookie to expire as soon as the taf completes?
> 
> just found one more clue: If an assignment is made within IF/ELSEIF/THEN 
> logic, it expires at the completion of the taf. If it is made outside of any 
> conditional actions, it sets. Anyone seen this before?
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Re: Witango-Talk: the case of the disappearing cookie....

2009-11-15 Thread Roland Dumas
hmmm. think I've got it.

The longer and more complex a taf, the less likely the cookie set is to work, 
and the deeper in the logic, the less likely to work. So, for a complex one, if 
you set it up top, it sets, but the lower down or deeper into the logic, it 
starts failing.

You can put it at the third level of logic in a simple taf and it works. 

So, If I take a taf that has a string of _functions and within each of those 
are conditions, and the cookie set is at that level, it fails.
If I take that one function out and make it a separate taf, with no _functions 
at all, then the cookie works. I look at the XML and it's not making mistakes, 
so it's the witango server that is making the errors.

Now I have to break my all purpose login/logout taf into its separate 
functions. 

On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:

> Care to share the TAF? I'd like to see why this might be the case.
> 
> Robert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:radu...@mac.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 5:01 PM
> To: witango-t...@witango. com List
> Subject: Witango-Talk: the case of the disappearing cookie
> 
> 
> I'm going batty. A simple enough thing: setting a cookie. Whether I do it
> with an assign action or an <@assign> tag, the following occurs
> 
> a taf with JUST the assignment works. The cookie is set. I can set it,
> re-set it, change the expiry. It behaves as expected in a single step taf.
> 
> Put that action in a longer taf (dragging the action from the test taf to
> the one I'm working on), and the debug shows the cookie assignment. I can
> put all kinds of displays in the taf to show that it is alive through the
> last return. The cookie isn't set. It behaves like a request scope. As soon
> as the taf completes, it's vanished. It never appears in the browser. 
> 
> So, I put a branch and return action from the taf to the one-action taf that
> had successfully set the cookie. No go. It isn't persistent. Another request
> scope cookie. 
> 
> There aren't any <@purge> tags that affect cookie scope and there is no
> other cookie assignment in the application that might be conflicting. What
> might cause a cookie to expire as soon as the taf completes?
> 
> just found one more clue: If an assignment is made within IF/ELSEIF/THEN
> logic, it expires at the completion of the taf. If it is made outside of any
> conditional actions, it sets. Anyone seen this before? 
> 
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Re: Witango-Talk: the case of the disappearing cookie....

2009-11-15 Thread Roland Dumas
I could do that, but I put the assignment within conditional logic because I 
don't want to set it every time. 


On Nov 15, 2009, at 2:06 PM, Michael Heth wrote:

> 
> On Nov 15, 2009, at 2:01 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
> 
>> just found one more clue: If an assignment is made within IF/ELSEIF/THEN 
>> logic, it expires at the completion of the taf. If it is made outside of any 
>> conditional actions, it sets.
> 
> 
>> Anyone seen this before?
> 
> 
> 
> Long time back but don't remember the specifics.
> 
> Test for whether you want to set the cookie, assign vars.
> 
> Outside of the logic code set the cookie using the vars.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> M./
> 
> Michael Heth
> tangopo...@serversmiths.com
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Witango-Talk: the case of the disappearing cookie....

2009-11-15 Thread Roland Dumas

I'm going batty. A simple enough thing: setting a cookie. Whether I do it with 
an assign action or an <@assign> tag, the following occurs

a taf with JUST the assignment works. The cookie is set. I can set it, re-set 
it, change the expiry. It behaves as expected in a single step taf.

Put that action in a longer taf (dragging the action from the test taf to the 
one I'm working on), and the debug shows the cookie assignment. I can put all 
kinds of displays in the taf to show that it is alive through the last return. 
The cookie isn't set. It behaves like a request scope. As soon as the taf 
completes, it's vanished. It never appears in the browser. 

So, I put a branch and return action from the taf to the one-action taf that 
had successfully set the cookie. No go. It isn't persistent. Another request 
scope cookie. 

There aren't any <@purge> tags that affect cookie scope and there is no other 
cookie assignment in the application that might be conflicting. What might 
cause a cookie to expire as soon as the taf completes?

just found one more clue: If an assignment is made within IF/ELSEIF/THEN logic, 
it expires at the completion of the taf. If it is made outside of any 
conditional actions, it sets. Anyone seen this before? 

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Witango-Talk: user scope in a tcf

2009-11-09 Thread Roland Dumas


User scope variables are available in a TCF, right?

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Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.6 compatibility

2009-09-29 Thread Roland Dumas
Have been using the studio intensively for the last few days. I've  
experienced the BSOD on the Mac three times so far when using the  
Studio. I've not had system crashes in the Mac for any reason since OS  
10.0 beta



On Sep 4, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:

I just did the 10.6 upgrade and Dev studio 5.5 works as it did in  
10.5.8.

_

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310 W. Bellevue Ave.
San Mateo, CA 94402
415-412-9300
AIM: radumas
radu...@mac.com
http://www.servqual.com




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Dev Studio 5.5 Crashes on startup every time for me. I haven't  
figured a work around yet. If I do I'll let you know. So far,  
though, it looks DOA.


Erik

On Aug 27, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:

whoever tries to run Dev Studio in Mac 10.6, please report back  
compatibility 
.

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Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.6 compatibility

2009-09-04 Thread Roland Dumas
I just did the 10.6 upgrade and Dev studio 5.5 works as it did in  
10.5.8.

_

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310 W. Bellevue Ave.
San Mateo, CA 94402
415-412-9300
AIM: radumas
radu...@mac.com
http://www.servqual.com




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Dev Studio 5.5 Crashes on startup every time for me. I haven't  
figured a work around yet. If I do I'll let you know. So far,  
though, it looks DOA.


Erik

On Aug 27, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:

whoever tries to run Dev Studio in Mac 10.6, please report back  
compatibility 
.

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Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.6 compatibility

2009-08-27 Thread Roland Dumas
whoever tries to run Dev Studio in Mac 10.6, please report back  
compatibility. 


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Re: Witango-Talk: Test for talk list..

2009-07-22 Thread Roland Dumas

Grrr

oh, opening up a php for beginners manual


On Jul 22, 2009, at 10:12 AM, Stefan Gonick wrote:


I'm sorry to say that Ted was being facetious...

At 01:08 PM 7/22/2009, you wrote:

1. what conference?
2. What new witango software? They've been radio silent for how  
many months/years?


On Jul 10, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:

Still here, working hard and saving money for the upcoming Witango  
conference to promote the latest Witango software.


Ted

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Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 2:03 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Witango-Talk: Test for talk list..


We seem to have stopped getting the witango talk for several  
months. Is anyone still around?


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Re: Witango-Talk: Test for talk list..

2009-07-22 Thread Roland Dumas

1. what conference?
2. What new witango software? They've been radio silent for how many  
months/years?


On Jul 10, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:

Still here, working hard and saving money for the upcoming Witango  
conference to promote the latest Witango software.


Ted

From: Kaustav Acharya [mailto:kacha...@colleges.com]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 2:03 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Witango-Talk: Test for talk list..

We seem to have stopped getting the witango talk for several months.  
Is anyone still around?



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Re: Witango-Talk: Expired Variables and Forms

2009-07-22 Thread Roland Dumas
how come you don't parse the form into smaller sets of fields and just  
accumulate the responses in user scope, and then submit it all at the  
end? I had much better user experience by having one question/form and  
letting the user tick through the questions with a "you are at 3 of  
20" kind of message with each.



On Jul 17, 2009, at 12:05 PM, WebDude wrote:

I have always had a problem with long forms and having user info  
expire before the forms were filled. I have done long forms in  
sections with a submit for every page. I have done timed javascripts  
that calls a pop-up after 25 minutes telling the user to save and  
continue.  Yada Yada Yada.


I am in the middle of putting together a very long form for a client  
and decided to try a different approach. I load a taf into an iframe  
with height and width attributes set to 1. The taf doesn't return  
anything, it's just a header with a meta-refresh every 25 minutes  
(1500 seconds).


Now call me dumb, but this works perfectly, as far as I can tell.  
I've tested it on many forms, forums, in-house blogs, etc., and I  
cannot get it to break. Every refresh refreshes the variables and  
holds onto all the user info.


A really simple solution to what I thought was a vexing problem. I  
just updated a bunch of stuff by adding the iframe at the bottom of  
a bunch of form pages.


I cannot find any drawbacks to this... I hope I am not missing  
something.





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Re: Witango-Talk: WAY OT: anyone know anything about PHP and files?

2009-05-21 Thread Roland Dumas
not using apache, but permissions were set such that anyone has read/ 
write privileges. witango had no problem, it was PHP that was  
misbehaving.


On May 20, 2009, at 8:04 PM, Christian Platt wrote:


Hi Roland,

what permissions does the folder have?
apache normally uses www as owner, witango needs witango  did us  
try chmod 777?


Christian


Am 20.05.2009 um 07:51 schrieb Roland Dumas:

there's a PHP application that I didn't write (or know anything  
about) that reads and writes to a directory. It's tracking PDF  
files. In the PHP application, there is a PDF folder that is an  
alias to the real folder containing the files. I edited the alias  
to point to a different folder (which contains more/better files).  
With that, the PHP application can't read or write to the new  
folder. The folder in the PHP directory was /pdf/ and is still / 
pdf/ but just points to a different place. I have all the  
permissions set so that anyone can read/write.


Can any of you PHP bilinguals give me a clue how to fix this?

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Re: Witango-Talk: WAY OT: anyone know anything about PHP and files?

2009-05-20 Thread Roland Dumas
got frustrated and turned things around. Wanted the witango site and  
the PHP site to be using the same folder for pdf files. Pointing the  
PHP site to the folder in the witango site used to work, but stopped.  
Only solution was to move the folder to the PHP site and point the  
witango site to it. That worked.


thanks.

BTW: How can you set up an alias wrong in MacOS?  It's a menu item  
"create alias"



On May 20, 2009, at 9:56 AM, Robert Garcia wrote:

y, if it says that the file doesn't exist, then the alias is prob  
setup wrong.


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On May 20, 2009, at 7:05 AM, Roland Dumas wrote:

well, the application is throwing an error that says file doesn't  
exist.


The files do exist and are in a directory that is pointed to by an  
alias. The alias is the directory name that PHP is looking for.


Something with how aliases work?


On May 19, 2009, at 11:40 PM, Robert Garcia wrote:


start with

http://us3.php.net/manual/en/function.file-exists.php

if true, then

http://us3.php.net/is_writable

and maybe.

http://us3.php.net/manual/en/function.is-readable.php

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On May 19, 2009, at 10:51 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:

there's a PHP application that I didn't write (or know anything  
about) that reads and writes to a directory. It's tracking PDF  
files. In the PHP application, there is a PDF folder that is an  
alias to the real folder containing the files. I edited the alias  
to point to a different folder (which contains more/better  
files). With that, the PHP application can't read or write to the  
new folder. The folder in the PHP directory was /pdf/ and is  
still /pdf/ but just points to a different place. I have all the  
permissions set so that anyone can read/write.


Can any of you PHP bilinguals give me a clue how to fix this?

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Re: Witango-Talk: WAY OT: anyone know anything about PHP and files?

2009-05-20 Thread Roland Dumas

well, the application is throwing an error that says file doesn't exist.

The files do exist and are in a directory that is pointed to by an  
alias. The alias is the directory name that PHP is looking for.


Something with how aliases work?


On May 19, 2009, at 11:40 PM, Robert Garcia wrote:


start with

http://us3.php.net/manual/en/function.file-exists.php

if true, then

http://us3.php.net/is_writable

and maybe.

http://us3.php.net/manual/en/function.is-readable.php

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President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
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rgar...@bighead.net - rgar...@eventpix.com
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

On May 19, 2009, at 10:51 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:

there's a PHP application that I didn't write (or know anything  
about) that reads and writes to a directory. It's tracking PDF  
files. In the PHP application, there is a PDF folder that is an  
alias to the real folder containing the files. I edited the alias  
to point to a different folder (which contains more/better files).  
With that, the PHP application can't read or write to the new  
folder. The folder in the PHP directory was /pdf/ and is still / 
pdf/ but just points to a different place. I have all the  
permissions set so that anyone can read/write.


Can any of you PHP bilinguals give me a clue how to fix this?

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Witango-Talk: WAY OT: anyone know anything about PHP and files?

2009-05-19 Thread Roland Dumas
there's a PHP application that I didn't write (or know anything about)  
that reads and writes to a directory. It's tracking PDF files. In the  
PHP application, there is a PDF folder that is an alias to the real  
folder containing the files. I edited the alias to point to a  
different folder (which contains more/better files). With that, the  
PHP application can't read or write to the new folder. The folder in  
the PHP directory was /pdf/ and is still /pdf/ but just points to a  
different place. I have all the permissions set so that anyone can  
read/write.


Can any of you PHP bilinguals give me a clue how to fix this?

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Re: Witango-Talk: Session expiration

2009-04-15 Thread Roland Dumas
the cheap way to do it is to put a refresh in the header of every page  
that takes to login/home page and the refresh time is > life of the  
user variables


On Apr 15, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:



The most common way to solve this is to place an IF action at the  
top of each taf like this:


IF @@user$user_is_logged_in  != yes (or isn’t present)

  Branch or redirect to login TAF/page

ELSE

Continue with TAF normally.

(obviously this depends on setting user$user_is_logged_in = “yes”  
when your user successfully logs in.)


Robert



From: Trahan, L J (MSFC-ED03)[PTC] [mailto:larry.tra...@nasa.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 3:29 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Witango-Talk: Session expiration


We have times when users leave their workstations for extended  
periods of time and their user variables expire.  In cases like  
these, we’d like to automatically load the main page of the  
application when the expiration occurs so they can simply log in  
when they return, instead of them getting a cryptic datasource error  
page.


Is there a simple solution for this?

Thanks






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Witango-Talk: did I miss that announcement?

2008-11-20 Thread Roland Dumas

Any gnus on witango 6??

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Re: Witango-Talk: customizing the 404 error response

2008-11-14 Thread Roland Dumas
seriously - what is the method to create a "missing file"  
customization. Anyone from the authors on line?




On Nov 14, 2008, at 3:07 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:


Holy Cow! When you do this, it DOES crash the witango server!

On Nov 9, 2008, at 8:21 AM, Roland Dumas wrote:


Bill,
I never implemented this. Did it ever work for you? I'm about to  
give it a try, but if it crashes witangod, I'll give it a second  
thought.


In the config, there is no defaulterrorfile designated. I was going  
to crib your page as you wrote it and then whip up my 404.tml file


RAD
On Sep 28, 2007, at 11:57 AM, William M Conlon wrote:


Hi Roland,

Did you get this working?  I'm now trying to do something similar,  
and finding it's not straightforward.


I have my apache configure to return notfound.tml for 404 errors,  
which works. But if I have missing witango file, the error handler  
crashes my 5.0.1.065 witango server.


DEFAULTERRORFILE=/usr/local/witango/MiscFiles/error.tml

My error handler, error.tml, is meant to allow a custom notfound  
error for each domain:


<@IF EXPR="<@ERROR PART='number1'> = -3" >
<@INCLUDE file="<@WEBROOT>notfound.tml">
<@ELSE>

<@ERRORS>
Class: <@ERROR PART="class">
Application File: <@ERROR PART="appfilepath"><@ERROR  
PART="appfilename">

Action: <@ERROR PART="postion">
Main Error Number: <@ERROR PART="number1">
Secondary Error Number: <@ERROR PART="number2">
Main Error Message: <@ERROR PART="message1">
Secondary Error Message: <@ERROR PART="message2">





thanks

Bill


On Aug 20, 2007, at 5:25 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:


so get the error.html and insert this in it?



<@IF EXPR='<@ERROR PART="number1"> = -3' >
<@INCLUDE file="/errors/404.tml">
<@ELSE>

<@ERRORS>
Class: <@ERROR PART="class">
	Application File: <@ERROR PART="appfilepath"><@ERROR  
PART="appfilename">

Action: <@ERROR PART="postion">
Main Error Number: <@ERROR PART="number1">
Secondary Error Number: <@ERROR PART="number2">
Main Error Message: <@ERROR PART="message1">
Secondary Error Message: <@ERROR PART="message2">






On Aug 20, 2007, at 4:35 PM, William M Conlon wrote:


Yes. that works on my witango5

Just evaluate the main error number to dispatch different pages.

On Aug 20, 2007, at 4:31 PM, William M Conlon wrote:


I think you just edit the DEFAULTERRORFILE.

Bill

On Aug 20, 2007, at 4:23 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:


no, because witango doesn't pick up the apache 404 file.

On Aug 20, 2007, at 4:21 PM, William M Conlon wrote:


You don't mean the apache 404:

ErrorDocument 404 /notfound.html

Bill


On Aug 20, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:

How can I customize the witango file not found response? I'd  
like it to just grab a page in the web site.


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Re: Witango-Talk: customizing the 404 error response

2008-11-14 Thread Roland Dumas

Holy Cow! When you do this, it DOES crash the witango server!

On Nov 9, 2008, at 8:21 AM, Roland Dumas wrote:


Bill,
I never implemented this. Did it ever work for you? I'm about to  
give it a try, but if it crashes witangod, I'll give it a second  
thought.


In the config, there is no defaulterrorfile designated. I was going  
to crib your page as you wrote it and then whip up my 404.tml file


RAD
On Sep 28, 2007, at 11:57 AM, William M Conlon wrote:


Hi Roland,

Did you get this working?  I'm now trying to do something similar,  
and finding it's not straightforward.


I have my apache configure to return notfound.tml for 404 errors,  
which works. But if I have missing witango file, the error handler  
crashes my 5.0.1.065 witango server.


DEFAULTERRORFILE=/usr/local/witango/MiscFiles/error.tml

My error handler, error.tml, is meant to allow a custom notfound  
error for each domain:


<@IF EXPR="<@ERROR PART='number1'> = -3" >
<@INCLUDE file="<@WEBROOT>notfound.tml">
<@ELSE>

<@ERRORS>
 Class: <@ERROR PART="class">
 Application File: <@ERROR PART="appfilepath"><@ERROR  
PART="appfilename">

 Action: <@ERROR PART="postion">
 Main Error Number: <@ERROR PART="number1">
 Secondary Error Number: <@ERROR PART="number2">
 Main Error Message: <@ERROR PART="message1">
 Secondary Error Message: <@ERROR PART="message2">
 




thanks

Bill


On Aug 20, 2007, at 5:25 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:


so get the error.html and insert this in it?



<@IF EXPR='<@ERROR PART="number1"> = -3' >
<@INCLUDE file="/errors/404.tml">
<@ELSE>

<@ERRORS>
Class: <@ERROR PART="class">
	Application File: <@ERROR PART="appfilepath"><@ERROR  
PART="appfilename">

Action: <@ERROR PART="postion">
Main Error Number: <@ERROR PART="number1">
Secondary Error Number: <@ERROR PART="number2">
Main Error Message: <@ERROR PART="message1">
Secondary Error Message: <@ERROR PART="message2">






On Aug 20, 2007, at 4:35 PM, William M Conlon wrote:


Yes. that works on my witango5

Just evaluate the main error number to dispatch different pages.

On Aug 20, 2007, at 4:31 PM, William M Conlon wrote:


I think you just edit the DEFAULTERRORFILE.

Bill

On Aug 20, 2007, at 4:23 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:


no, because witango doesn't pick up the apache 404 file.

On Aug 20, 2007, at 4:21 PM, William M Conlon wrote:


You don't mean the apache 404:

 ErrorDocument 404 /notfound.html

Bill


On Aug 20, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:

How can I customize the witango file not found response? I'd  
like it to just grab a page in the web site.


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Re: Witango-Talk: Keyword Relavant Links

2008-11-11 Thread Roland Dumas
a cheap way to make search args SEO friendly is to just append keyword  
laden arguments. If your taf is looking for something like ? 
_function=list&cat=3  which a search engine overlooks, append  
descriptive arguments that may or may not actually be used in the taf,  
such as ? 
clothing_type=pants&size=long&style=pleated&_function=list&cat=3



On Nov 11, 2008, at 8:06 AM, Robert Shubert wrote:


Here’s a little more help on this issue:

IIS: set the 404 error handling in the Custom Errors tab to: URL: / 
main.taf (or whatever is going to handle this)


At the top of main.taf use code something like this:

<@ASSIGN url <@CGIPARAM name=http_search_args>>
<@ASSIGN parsed_url <@TOKENIZE str=@@url chars=/?>>
<@ASSIGN parsed_url <@TRANSPOSE array=parsed_url>>

That will leave you with an array containing the information that  
was in the original URL. The expectation is that you would have  
similarly named TAFs, includes, or possibly a lookup in a database  
to know what to display back to the user.


Probably the biggest problem you’ll hit is that all requests are  
going to be handled by main.taf (at least initially) so to add this  
to an existing application you will need to do some branching as well.


If you can’t determine exactly which page to display back to the  
user, you must send back a properly formatted 404 error page.


Keep in mind that you need to be careful about this whole process.  
You can create endless loops and possibly other problems if you  
don’t have good error checking.


I can attest that this will function under very high loads.

Robert

From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 11:42 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Witango-Talk: Keyword Relavant Links

You may recognize this subject. SEO’s want links that contain  
keywords.


IE:
http://www.mackspw.com/SubCategory--Duck-Decoys--m-254
http://www.mackspw.com/Category--Hunting-Blinds--m-137
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SportingGoods_Men%2527s%2BClothing--Columbia--Shirts_10151_-1_10001_advisor_CA.CategoryExpand_N_625006001_62500_625006000

Has anyone implemented a similar strategy using Witango 5.5 and  
Windows 2003? I want to utilize this in my shopping cart app which  
is presently built utilizing the following example link structure:


http://www.upnorthsports.com/Category/main.taf?cat=2
http://www.upnorthsports.com/Product/product.taf?_function=detail&_ID=6092

Thanks

Steve Fogelson


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Re: Witango-Talk: customizing the 404 error response

2008-11-09 Thread Roland Dumas

Bill,
I never implemented this. Did it ever work for you? I'm about to give  
it a try, but if it crashes witangod, I'll give it a second thought.


In the config, there is no defaulterrorfile designated. I was going to  
crib your page as you wrote it and then whip up my 404.tml file


RAD
On Sep 28, 2007, at 11:57 AM, William M Conlon wrote:


Hi Roland,

Did you get this working?  I'm now trying to do something similar,  
and finding it's not straightforward.


I have my apache configure to return notfound.tml for 404 errors,  
which works. But if I have missing witango file, the error handler  
crashes my 5.0.1.065 witango server.


DEFAULTERRORFILE=/usr/local/witango/MiscFiles/error.tml

My error handler, error.tml, is meant to allow a custom notfound  
error for each domain:


<@IF EXPR="<@ERROR PART='number1'> = -3" >
<@INCLUDE file="<@WEBROOT>notfound.tml">
<@ELSE>

<@ERRORS>
  Class: <@ERROR PART="class">
  Application File: <@ERROR PART="appfilepath"><@ERROR  
PART="appfilename">

  Action: <@ERROR PART="postion">
  Main Error Number: <@ERROR PART="number1">
  Secondary Error Number: <@ERROR PART="number2">
  Main Error Message: <@ERROR PART="message1">
  Secondary Error Message: <@ERROR PART="message2">
  




thanks

Bill


On Aug 20, 2007, at 5:25 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:


so get the error.html and insert this in it?



<@IF EXPR='<@ERROR PART="number1"> = -3' >
<@INCLUDE file="/errors/404.tml">
<@ELSE>

<@ERRORS>
Class: <@ERROR PART="class">
	Application File: <@ERROR PART="appfilepath"><@ERROR  
PART="appfilename">

Action: <@ERROR PART="postion">
Main Error Number: <@ERROR PART="number1">
Secondary Error Number: <@ERROR PART="number2">
Main Error Message: <@ERROR PART="message1">
Secondary Error Message: <@ERROR PART="message2">






On Aug 20, 2007, at 4:35 PM, William M Conlon wrote:


Yes. that works on my witango5

Just evaluate the main error number to dispatch different pages.

On Aug 20, 2007, at 4:31 PM, William M Conlon wrote:


I think you just edit the DEFAULTERRORFILE.

Bill

On Aug 20, 2007, at 4:23 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:


no, because witango doesn't pick up the apache 404 file.

On Aug 20, 2007, at 4:21 PM, William M Conlon wrote:


You don't mean the apache 404:

  ErrorDocument 404 /notfound.html

Bill


On Aug 20, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:

How can I customize the witango file not found response? I'd  
like it to just grab a page in the web site.


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Re: Witango-Talk: coincidence?

2008-11-07 Thread Roland Dumas
yup. it is coincidence. Server #1 had a head crash - the head actually  
detached and scraped the surface of the disk beyond repair.


Server #2 is behaving oddly, but not a hardware failure. Have not  
gotten to the bottom of it.



On Nov 6, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Kent Swisher wrote:


Roland

We have a few tafs that will return 2000+ rows if you put in the  
wrong search arguments.  Chokes the server for up to 20 seconds, but  
never caused a crash.  I think your problem was just coincidence.


-> Kent

On 11/6/2008 1:42 PM, Rick Sanders wrote:
How did the hard drive fail? Is it the file system, or the computer  
won't

boot up?
Sounds to me like the constant writing to the HD corrupted the file  
system.

I don't think it's mechanical.
Rick Sanders
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USA:   919-799-9076
Canada: www.webenergy.ca
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-Original Message-
From: Roland Dumas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: November-06-08  
3:46 PM

To: WiTango List List
Subject: Witango-Talk: coincidence?
My dev server melted down. coincidentally, I had a taf that  
returned a  foundset with 1000 records. A mistake, but it would  
choke the http  server. I was in the process of fixing that taf  
when my server just  died. Hard drive failure. It seemed like a  
coincidence. No way that a  too-big foundset could corrupt a hard  
drive, right?
I moved the files to another server. I fixed the taf to make sure  
it  only retrieved 75 records at a time. (<@ARG number> = 75)   
Another  person kept restoring the old taf, though. It crapped out  
the http  server. Then a hard drive failure.
Is it possible that a taf that returns too big a data set could  
crap  out the hard drive?  Coincidence?


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Witango-Talk: coincidence?

2008-11-06 Thread Roland Dumas
My dev server melted down. coincidentally, I had a taf that returned a  
foundset with 1000 records. A mistake, but it would choke the http  
server. I was in the process of fixing that taf when my server just  
died. Hard drive failure. It seemed like a coincidence. No way that a  
too-big foundset could corrupt a hard drive, right?


I moved the files to another server. I fixed the taf to make sure it  
only retrieved 75 records at a time. (<@ARG number> = 75)  Another  
person kept restoring the old taf, though. It crapped out the http  
server. Then a hard drive failure.


Is it possible that a taf that returns too big a data set could crap  
out the hard drive?  Coincidence?


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Witango-Talk: the price of waiting

2008-11-01 Thread Roland Dumas
I'd planned to replace my server hardware last summer, but waited for  
Witango6. Bad move.


questions:

1. will/can witango 5 run on an intel mac server?
2. Is there a witango hosting service where I can run witango + mysql?

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Re: Witango-Talk: One for the Math Gurus

2008-10-17 Thread Roland Dumas
You count the full cases first,multiply by case price, then add the  
value associated with the remainder.



Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 17, 2008, at 8:17, "WebDude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Having a hard time wrapping my head around this one. Any help would  
be appreciated.


Let's say we have bottles of perfume for sale. For shipping, we can  
fit 12 bottles into a box. Each box is sent separately via a  
courrier. The courrier charges x amount for each box plus weight. To  
make a long story shorter, in this scenario, we have different  
charges for quantities of bottles within a box. So, for a specific  
zone, we charge like so...


QuantityPrice
1   $14.50
2   $15.50
3   $16.50
4   $18.50
5   $18.75
6   $19.00
7   $20.00
8   $21.00
9   $22.00
10  $23.00
11  $25.00
12  $26.00

Now the problem is the thirteenth bottle. We need to charge 26.00 +  
14.50.

14th bottle would be 26.00 + 15.50.
15th bottle would be 26.00 + 16.50, etc.
And to continue following this format...
24 bottles would be 26.00 + 26.00
25 bottles would be 26.00 + 26.00 + 14.50
26 bottles would be 26.00 + 26.00 + 15.50
27 bottles would be 26.00 + 26.00 + 16.50, etc.

There is a formula in there somehow, but I am having a devil of a  
time trying to figure it out. Any help would be appreciated.


Thanks!






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Re: Witango-Talk: Witango 6 update

2008-09-30 Thread Roland Dumas

y'know. I think you're right. This is a very good week for information.

On Sep 30, 2008, at 5:22 AM, Dan Stein wrote:

This week would be a good time to here about the progress or lack of  
progress in moving forward.

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Re: Witango-Talk: OT: detecting country of origin

2008-08-16 Thread Roland Dumas
A friend who wanted to go to a site that does not allow US visitors,  
used a proxy service located in the UK. The site knew his browser was  
coming from the US. I had him hit my server using the proxy, and it  
shows an IP from Germany.   Somehow the proxy does change the IP, but  
still reveals the location - somehow. That intrigued me, and now we're  
looking for what it may be using to detect country of origin.


On Aug 15, 2008, at 6:06 PM, Robert Garcia wrote:


It can't

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On Aug 15, 2008, at 5:22 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:

How can a server detect the country of origin of a browser when the  
browser is set up to go through a proxy in a different country?


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Witango-Talk: OT: detecting country of origin

2008-08-15 Thread Roland Dumas
How can a server detect the country of origin of a browser when the  
browser is set up to go through a proxy in a different country?


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Re: Witango-Talk: Mac studio errors on odbc connection

2008-07-01 Thread Roland Dumas

found the right prefs file to nuke and the problem was cured.

On Jul 1, 2008, at 10:20 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:

What's weird is that I don't have the opportunity to enter my  
password. As soon as I open a datasource, it gives me an error.


I check my ODBC settings and the myodbc utility says the connection  
is good. Something in witango studio is dented. Looking for where  
witango studio stores its remembered settings to see if there is any  
corruption.



On Jun 30, 2008, at 10:06 PM, Christian Platt wrote:


Hm,

enter your password again. That does it for me (JDBC) from Studio

Christian



Am 01.07.2008 um 01:53 schrieb Roland Dumas:


Running MacOS X and witango Studio 5.5.08
Connect to mysql database on remote server by ODBC

I have three databases on the same server, and connect to all  
three the same way. They all work and have worked for a long  
period of time.


Today, I connect to database 1 in witango studio, works fine,  
database 2? fine. Database 3? error: unable to connect to the data  
source "XX" Verify that the data source is properly configured and  
that the database server is on-line.


I double check the DSN on my box, on the server, the users on the  
database. It all looks good and is the same for all three  
databases. It refuses to work. Any suggestions as to how to run  
down the offending moving part?


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Re: Witango-Talk: Mac studio errors on odbc connection

2008-07-01 Thread Roland Dumas
What's weird is that I don't have the opportunity to enter my  
password. As soon as I open a datasource, it gives me an error.


I check my ODBC settings and the myodbc utility says the connection is  
good. Something in witango studio is dented. Looking for where witango  
studio stores its remembered settings to see if there is any corruption.



On Jun 30, 2008, at 10:06 PM, Christian Platt wrote:


Hm,

enter your password again. That does it for me (JDBC) from Studio

Christian



Am 01.07.2008 um 01:53 schrieb Roland Dumas:


Running MacOS X and witango Studio 5.5.08
Connect to mysql database on remote server by ODBC

I have three databases on the same server, and connect to all three  
the same way. They all work and have worked for a long period of  
time.


Today, I connect to database 1 in witango studio, works fine,  
database 2? fine. Database 3? error: unable to connect to the data  
source "XX" Verify that the data source is properly configured and  
that the database server is on-line.


I double check the DSN on my box, on the server, the users on the  
database. It all looks good and is the same for all three  
databases. It refuses to work. Any suggestions as to how to run  
down the offending moving part?


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Witango-Talk: Mac studio errors on odbc connection

2008-06-30 Thread Roland Dumas

Running MacOS X and witango Studio 5.5.08
Connect to mysql database on remote server by ODBC

I have three databases on the same server, and connect to all three  
the same way. They all work and have worked for a long period of time.


Today, I connect to database 1 in witango studio, works fine, database  
2? fine. Database 3? error: unable to connect to the data source "XX"  
Verify that the data source is properly configured and that the  
database server is on-line.


I double check the DSN on my box, on the server, the users on the  
database. It all looks good and is the same for all three databases.  
It refuses to work. Any suggestions as to how to run down the  
offending moving part?


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Witango-Talk: Did I miss the expected launch date??

2008-06-17 Thread Roland Dumas

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Re: Witango-Talk: variableTimeout

2008-03-31 Thread Roland Dumas

Ah, I get it. You want to have a never expiring experience.

I did one in which a user scope array was mirrored in a global scope  
array. When the timeout trigger fired, it stored the global scope  
mirror of the array in a database with the user reference cookie as a  
field and then killed the global scope array. I'd think that using  
that logic, someone doing a soft login could be re-united with their  
user scope variables.




On Mar 28, 2008, at 1:21 PM, William M Conlon wrote:

Login ==>  establish user state (ie., user scope variables), Set  
UserReferenceCookie

Timeout ==> save user state to database, purge user scope variables
Request ==> If UserReferenceCookie matches a timed-out record,  
reload user state from database.


Bill

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On Mar 28, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Jesse Parker wrote:

What do you mean by re-invigorated?  The variableTimeoutTrigger  
happens

after the scope is gone.


-Original Message-
From: William M Conlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 4:05 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: variableTimeout


Just application logic.  I need to make sure that user state is
properly re-established for a session that timed-out, but has been
're-invigorated'.

Bill

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On Mar 28, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:


what's the odd behavior you're seeing?

On Mar 27, 2008, at 8:48 AM, William M Conlon wrote:


I want to trigger the variable timeout for debugging so I can
investigate the behavior on expiration and when the user
returns.   I'll use  <@ASSIGN NAME=variableTimeout SCOPE=user
VALUE=1> and wait a minute.
Bill

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To the Point
2330 Bryant Street
Palo Alto, CA 94301
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 fax:  650.329.8335
mobile:  650.906.9929
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On Mar 27, 2008, at 7:13 AM, Jesse Parker wrote:


<@PURGE> triggers the variableTimeoutTrigger.  Your "logout"
function just
needs to do <@PURGE SCOPE=User> - this causes the scope to expire
in the
same way as a variableTimeout.

Keep in mind you'll never see the result of
variableTimeoutTrigger.  The URL
is requested and the resulting document is discarded.  You need
to turn up
your logging level and watch the logs to see anything.


-Original Message-
From: William M Conlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:53 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: variableTimeout


Yes.  Sorry, I copied the example from the manual.

What I want to do is to trigger a user scope timeout, <@ASSIGN
NAME=variableTimeout
SCOPE=user VALUE=1> so I can see the behavior as user scope
variables
get re-set.

Bill


On Mar 26, 2008, at 7:31 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:


Isn't that what <@PURGE scope=domain> would do?

I don't know if this triggers any variabletimeouttrigger URLS.

Robert

-Original Message-
From: William M Conlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:15 PM
To: Witango-Talk
Subject: Witango-Talk: variableTimeout

Is there a way to force the instantaneous timeout for a scope?

Coming back from lunch, I saw some unexpected behavior, which was
related to expired user scope variables, and I would like to
replicate the problem.

It looks like the best I can do is <@ASSIGN NAME=variableTimeout
SCOPE=domain VALUE=1> and then wait for a minute before testing.

Any other ideas?

Bill

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Re: Witango-Talk: variableTimeout

2008-03-28 Thread Roland Dumas

what's the odd behavior you're seeing?

On Mar 27, 2008, at 8:48 AM, William M Conlon wrote:

I want to trigger the variable timeout for debugging so I can  
investigate the behavior on expiration and when the user returns.
I'll use  <@ASSIGN NAME=variableTimeout SCOPE=user VALUE=1> and wait  
a minute.

Bill

William M. Conlon, P.E., Ph.D.
To the Point
2330 Bryant Street
Palo Alto, CA 94301
  vox:  650.327.2175 (direct)
  fax:  650.329.8335
mobile:  650.906.9929
e-mail:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  web:  http://www.tothept.com


On Mar 27, 2008, at 7:13 AM, Jesse Parker wrote:

<@PURGE> triggers the variableTimeoutTrigger.  Your "logout"  
function just
needs to do <@PURGE SCOPE=User> - this causes the scope to expire  
in the

same way as a variableTimeout.

Keep in mind you'll never see the result of  
variableTimeoutTrigger.  The URL
is requested and the resulting document is discarded.  You need to  
turn up

your logging level and watch the logs to see anything.


-Original Message-
From: William M Conlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:53 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: variableTimeout


Yes.  Sorry, I copied the example from the manual.

What I want to do is to trigger a user scope timeout, <@ASSIGN
NAME=variableTimeout
SCOPE=user VALUE=1> so I can see the behavior as user scope variables
get re-set.

Bill


On Mar 26, 2008, at 7:31 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:


Isn't that what <@PURGE scope=domain> would do?

I don't know if this triggers any variabletimeouttrigger URLS.

Robert

-Original Message-
From: William M Conlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:15 PM
To: Witango-Talk
Subject: Witango-Talk: variableTimeout

Is there a way to force the instantaneous timeout for a scope?

Coming back from lunch, I saw some unexpected behavior, which was
related to expired user scope variables, and I would like to
replicate the problem.

It looks like the best I can do is <@ASSIGN NAME=variableTimeout
SCOPE=domain VALUE=1> and then wait for a minute before testing.

Any other ideas?

Bill

William M. Conlon, P.E., Ph.D.
To the Point
2330 Bryant Street
Palo Alto, CA 94301
   vox:  650.327.2175 (direct)
   fax:  650.329.8335
mobile:  650.906.9929
e-mail:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   web:  http://www.tothept.com

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Re: Witango-Talk: Load Testing

2008-02-21 Thread Roland Dumas
what version of witango are you running on the intel xserves? This is  
the path we'll have to take, so please document well for the late  
adopters.



On Feb 21, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Reeve, Lawrence D wrote:


Hello,

I am migrating our Witango environment from mac xservs running  
webstar to some new intell based xservs running apache (Itools). It  
is all running well but I would like to do some load testing against  
the taf files hitting a MySQL db before release.


Does any one have a recommendation for an open source (or purchased)  
load tester suitable to this task?
  


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Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Roland Dumas
I've missed it if there was a release date and upgrade pricing. Don't  
see it on the web site and this list is very quiet.


On Jan 25, 2008, at 12:50 AM, Ben Johansen wrote:

I think that the release for Leopard for the Mac and Vista are  
giving them a fun time.
The site is still up but i don't know how much longer that girl can  
hold that dive ;-)


The beta looked good, I think they are just honing that, and  
probably adding some functionality to add value.


Ben

On Jan 24, 2008, at 6:52 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:

Having a discussion with a client about whether or not the next  
version of witango will be released and if it's going to survive at  
all. Anyone have any information?


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Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-24 Thread Roland Dumas
Having a discussion with a client about whether or not the next  
version of witango will be released and if it's going to survive at  
all. Anyone have any information?


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Re: Witango-Talk: [OT] Dreamweaver login shows instead of files

2008-01-10 Thread Roland Dumas

I figured it out.

We had massive power outages last week due to storms. Many of my  
locations had new IP addresses when everything came back up. The new  
IP addresses were illegal for the directory in question and it  
errorred out. The problem was that the error files (403.html,  
404.html, etc) were corrupted by Dreamweaver such that they contained  
only the content of their corresponding checkout files. So, I'm trying  
to access a range of pages, including non-existing pages and  
consistently getting the odd Dreamweaver file.


A compound error.

On Jan 10, 2008, at 4:34 PM, Alan Wolfe wrote:


probably not much help, but if that directory is behaving differently
than the others maybe there's a file in that directory which is named
the same as one of your "code" files that you are using to make this
system work.

ie if your code ran a "checkout.bat" file to do it's work, which
resided in some directory, but this specific directory had a
"checkout.bat" inside of it, it could be that the false checkout.bat
file was taking precedence over the real one.


On 1/10/08, Roland Dumas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This has nothing to do with witango, so apologies. I can't figure out
how to troubleshoot, so maybe someone has a clue 

I used Dreamweaver to manage sites. There is a check in/check out
function. Your username and email address are associated with files
you've checked out.

For one whole directory, the http server sends back the check-out id
instead of files. No file gets served at all. Restarting the server
doesn't matter. Somehow, Dreamweaver has a file someplace that gets
sent instead. Any ideas how to discover what the issue is?

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Witango-Talk: [OT] Dreamweaver login shows instead of files

2008-01-10 Thread Roland Dumas
This has nothing to do with witango, so apologies. I can't figure out  
how to troubleshoot, so maybe someone has a clue 


I used Dreamweaver to manage sites. There is a check in/check out  
function. Your username and email address are associated with files  
you've checked out.


For one whole directory, the http server sends back the check-out id  
instead of files. No file gets served at all. Restarting the server  
doesn't matter. Somehow, Dreamweaver has a file someplace that gets  
sent instead. Any ideas how to discover what the issue is?


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Re: Witango-Talk: Email Server (OT)

2007-11-20 Thread Roland Dumas
Rumor has it that Kerio is a pretty good substitute for Exchange and  
you can port your settings and accounts over.



On Nov 20, 2007, at 2:31 PM, Fogelson, Steve wrote:


Hi,

This is off topic, so delete if you don’t want to read.

I have been using Windows Exchange 5.5 for serving pop3 email and it  
is time to move on. Too many problems and licensing for Exchange  
2003 is too expensive.


I am looking for suggestions for a Windows based email server  
(presently about 250 email accounts). I have been looking at MDaemon  
and Security Plus by AltN and it looks pretty good.


I would appreciate any comments about this or any other Windows  
based Email server.


Thanks

Steve Fogelson
Internet Commerce Solutions

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Re: Witango-Talk: license exceeded on localhost

2007-11-03 Thread Roland Dumas
if memory serves me correctly, the local dev can have two user  
sessions and then gives you that error. That's two concurrent  
sessions. So, if you testing from a couple of browsers or some other  
routine that causes more sessions to be started, it won't fly.


this is ancient memory.


On Nov 3, 2007, at 9:15 AM, Shane Pearlman wrote:

The description for Event ID ( 10 ) in Source ( Witango_Server_5.5 )  
cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary  
registry information or message DLL files to display messages from a  
remote computer. You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to  
retrieve this description; see Help and Support for details. The  
following information is part of the event: [3164] License Exceeded.


how the heck can I excede my local dev license?

anyone run into this? Reboot and restarting services did not solve it.

Running on xp in parallels on an intel mac.

-S

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Re: Witango-Talk: Intel Mac

2007-10-28 Thread Roland Dumas
it might have been my case. the MyODBC connectors started failing.  
Witango couldn't see them. I tried OpenLink's and they gave me  
problems. Discussion on the board speculated that witango couldn't see  
the non-universal drivers and various other things. The odd experience  
was that with MyODBC failing, then OpenLink failing, going back to  
MyODBC drivers worked. There was some sequence in my trial-and-error  
that solved the problem. I can't say exactly what it was, though.


This was all relative to MySQL, not MS SQL.

On Oct 26, 2007, at 1:25 PM, Brian Humes wrote:


Hi all,

Just got a new Intel Mac. Bought the OpenLink SQL Server Lite ODBC  
drivers (v6.0) to connect to our MS SQL Server 2005 server. When I  
put in my User DSNs and test, test is OK. When I launch Witango  
studio (5.5) and try to connect, nothing.


I know this has been talked about lately and I thought I remember  
someone having some luck with the OpenLink drivers. Is this true? Is  
there something else I need to be doing?



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Re: Witango-Talk: Domain scope variables and cache files

2007-10-11 Thread Roland Dumas
Create a taf that creates the domain variables with current values.  
Whether reading from files or hitting a database. If you need to  
update these variables, hit the taf or have a cron hit the taf  
periodically.


I have such a taf set as a startup taf to make sure that an old set  
of values or empty values don't happen



On Oct 11, 2007, at 10:53 AM, Kent Swisher wrote:

I use domain scoped variables (arrays) to cache frequently used  
select list values that change infrequently.  If I remember  
correctly, domain scoped variables are saved to a cache file when  
the server is shut down gracefully.  Is this correct?


If so, is there a way to update the cache without shutting down the  
server?  We recently had a problem where the domain scoped vars  
reverted to older values and can't think of any explanation except  
that the server may have hiccuped and restored the domain variables  
from an outdated cache.  I trap for empty domain var to know when  
to re-querying the DB to refresh domain variable.


Maybe I need to switch to application scope var so I can set a  
variable timeout?



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