Re: [AFMUG] OT: Name that connector

2018-02-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
Generically, it is called a screw type pluggable if I remember right. Most of the time I see them with one side soldered to a PCB so I don't know how easy they are going to be to find in another format. Phoenix contact is the one that seems to make more of them than anyone. You could go to Digikey

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hello World

2018-02-09 Thread chuck
It appears gcc got loaded as part of the NOOBs package I put on the machine. -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 8:13 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hello World I am guessing here, but it sounds like you need the make program and gcc? i.e.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hello World

2018-02-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
I don't know what you are trying to do with the Raspberry Pi but maybe it isn't the right tool. I love it, it just isn't for everything. The Arduino or ESP32 is better for analog anything and usually sensors. I would also tell you that you may want to look at using Python with the Pi. Tons of

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

2018-02-09 Thread chuck
If you have 8 wires, perhaps different gauges and insulation thicknesses, a single bar holding them all is going to have a problem exerting equal pressure. I could put a strip of rubber on it I guess. Or multiple bars. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 8:51 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hello World

2018-02-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
Yes it is. And if you are doing that, C might be the only thing fast enough to generate the test patterns. On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 9:18 AM wrote: > I built the device with an arduino first but it is not fast enough. I am > creating T1 timing and test patterns and running flat

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

2018-02-09 Thread chuck
I get asked that all the time. I always ask them which direction the data is flowing on the ethernet cable From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 9:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new product question .a digression, but that picture reminded me that I really

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Name that connector

2018-02-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yes. They sell those at Lowe's and home Depot Jaime Solorza On Feb 9, 2018 8:14 AM, "Robert" wrote: > Rather than the open conductor terminal blocks, > use these.. much less chance of shorts... > > https://www.amazon.com/Fastronix-Style-Screw-Terminal-Strip/ >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hello World

2018-02-09 Thread chuck
I will use a GPS disciplined reference signal to gate the actual timing pulse stream. It is inserting the correct F bit every 193 bits that is the trick. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 10:23 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hello World gcc -o output

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP AC version?

2018-02-09 Thread Steve Jones
will 20mhz channels give you any more jesus juice than 20mhz channels with the 200APs? as i understand it its only a single revision backward compatible though, 1000 series will not work with it but 2000 will? On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hello World

2018-02-09 Thread Dave
Im with chuck on this one. Working in an IDE is so much simpler than worrying about if I have all the libraries and the correct engine to compile all this done when the ide is opened.  However I do alot in linux and so long as you as you can do an install of the make application then linux os

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hello World

2018-02-09 Thread Robert
the -lbcm2835 is a flag to include a library (-l) bcm2835 which gcc will look for in the libraries directories that are defaulted by gcc more comments in your example... On 2/9/18 9:23 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: gcc -o output hello.c Will compile hello.c to an executable

Re: [AFMUG] cable guard for installs

2018-02-09 Thread Adam Moffett
Not me. When I've wanted weed whacker protection I cut a slot into a 1' chunk of pvc conduit with an angle grinder. Then I slip it over the cable and use a normal conduit strap. I only did that a couple of times, but if I wanted it to be SOP then I'd run 10' sticks through a table saw to

Re: [AFMUG] cable guard for installs

2018-02-09 Thread Robert
Price?(y)? On 2/9/18 9:47 AM, Bill Prince wrote: I've used something similar (but way different) where we had to add structured wiring after the fact. Sort of a surface-mount conduit. The stuff we used we ran along the baseboard, and it just made the baseboard look "thicker". Turned out

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP AC version?

2018-02-09 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
300s should ship from Asia, along with the PTP550s with a week. Figure 30-45 days from then. Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > On Feb 9, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > They've been taking orders for

Re: [AFMUG] cable guard for installs

2018-02-09 Thread Jay Weekley
Well, that's than snot on a doorknob. Steve Jones wrote: anybody using this? http://www.telecrafterproducts.com/#/devicesCableGuard/languageId Virus-free. www.avg.com

Re: [AFMUG] cable guard for installs

2018-02-09 Thread Steve Jones
panduit is the bomb inside when you just cant get in a wall, i love it, i want to .. um well, you know Telecraft says Graybar and Power & Tel are distributors of theirs. I dont know the price though. I came across it looking for a replacement loader for the RB2 staple gun On Fri, Feb 9, 2018

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP AC version?

2018-02-09 Thread Mathew Howard
They've been taking orders for the SM (Force 300) for awhile, but I still haven't gotten the ones I have on order... I expect they'll be shipping any day now. The epmp 3000 APs probably still won't be out for a few more months, from what I've heard. On Feb 9, 2018 11:12 AM, "Adam Moffett"

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

2018-02-09 Thread George Skorup
It would be cool to have 4 single-mode duplex LC couplers in that box too. On 2/9/2018 9:47 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I can, just trying to keep cost down.� I am using my regular tower surge protector enclosure. Will have 4 circuits in and 4 circuits out. *From:* Dave *Sent:* Friday,

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

2018-02-09 Thread chuck
Yeah, that has been asked for. I can do it but it will be ugly. From: George Skorup Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 11:01 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new product question It would be cool to have 4 single-mode duplex LC couplers in that box too. On 2/9/2018 9:47 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] cable guard for installs

2018-02-09 Thread Bill Prince
I've used something similar (but way different) where we had to add structured wiring after the fact. Sort of a surface-mount conduit. The stuff we used we ran along the baseboard, and it just made the baseboard look "thicker". Turned out better than I expected. bp

Re: [AFMUG] cable guard for installs

2018-02-09 Thread Bill Prince
Not a clue. This was at least a decade ago. Sort of like this: https://www.cableorganizer.com/surface-raceways/ bp On 2/9/2018 9:53 AM, Robert wrote: Price?(y)? On 2/9/18 9:47 AM, Bill Prince wrote: I've used something similar (but way different) where we had to

[AFMUG] bummed

2018-02-09 Thread chuck
Bought 3 of the 29DC batts from Walmart. I need 4. Now it is saying no longer available. Arrgh. Wonder what is the closest...

Re: [AFMUG] Viva Entertainment

2018-02-09 Thread Adam Moffett
Ok thanks. That makes more sense. -- Original Message -- From: "Rory Conaway" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 2/8/2018 11:06:45 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Viva Entertainment It doesn’t get local channels. We have tested a couple of Android devices and

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

2018-02-09 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I know some surge protector manufacturers used circuits which needed to be oriented in a certain direction in relation to the surge source. But those typically were labeled with labels like "protected equipment" and "surge source". These circuits often included an element which isolated the

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hello World

2018-02-09 Thread Bill Prince
You need a file called "Makefile" in order to run make. Try this out: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21548464/how-to-write-a-makefile-to-compile-a-simple-c-program bp On 2/9/2018 8:44 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: OK, but I need a file called “make”, right? And

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hello World

2018-02-09 Thread Robert
I am guessing here, but it sounds like you need the make program and gcc? i.e. "sudo apt-get make" and "sudo apt-get gcc" ??? Make files can just be in the same directory as the source file, pretty much everything you work on can be in the same directory. On 2/9/18 6:51 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Name that connector

2018-02-09 Thread Robert
Rather than the open conductor terminal blocks, use these.. much less chance of shorts... https://www.amazon.com/Fastronix-Style-Screw-Terminal-Strip/dp/B019BI2F3G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1518189111=8-1=euro+connector+block On 2/9/18 6:57 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: You can get some terminal blocks

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hello World

2018-02-09 Thread chuck
OK, but I need a file called “make”, right? And it needs stuff inside it. This is one example I found: all: output_file_name output_file_name: main.o gcc main.o -lbcm2835 -o output_file_name main.o: main.c gcc -c main.c clean: rm -rf *o output_file_name I presume this is

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

2018-02-09 Thread chuck
Nice if you knew the direction of the surge source... From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 9:40 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new product question I know some surge protector manufacturers used circuits which needed to be oriented in a certain direction in

[AFMUG] OT Hello World

2018-02-09 Thread chuck
I hate make files. I love IDEs. Bought a raspberry PI and am playing with it a bit. So far I really like it. Started to write a program using a Geaney editor. Nice editor. Hit the make button and I discovered it is really just a shell, that you have to have a gcc make somewhere. So, not

[AFMUG] new product question

2018-02-09 Thread chuck
I am making a new tower mount multiple circuit surge protector. This one is for multiple higher current DC power circuits/ conductors only. Trying to come up with a good way to allow the wires to be secured. Right now I have a series of rectangular slots in the PCB so a zip tie can be passed

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hello World

2018-02-09 Thread Bill Prince
A make file is just a list of dependencies, and what to do if the dependency is met. Sort of:  "If hello.c is newer than hello, then compile it". It can be as simple as that, but can get a whole lot more complicated if there are libraries and such. However, in the simple case of your hello.c,

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP AC version?

2018-02-09 Thread Adam Moffett
I believe SM, but not AP -- Original Message -- From: "Jon Langeler" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/9/2018 12:10:18 PM Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP AC version? Is that out yet? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

2018-02-09 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Considering the ones I saw this way were for the back of a computer back in the serial days, you could usually guess that it was likely to come from the cable side On Feb 9, 2018 8:45 AM, wrote: > Nice if you knew the direction of the surge source... > > *From:* Forrest

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hello World

2018-02-09 Thread chuck
I built the device with an arduino first but it is not fast enough. I am creating T1 timing and test patterns and running flat out that Arduino barely makes it but with too much jitter. Pi is not that much more money and way faster. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 8:16

[AFMUG] cable guard for installs

2018-02-09 Thread Steve Jones
anybody using this? http://www.telecrafterproducts.com/#/devicesCableGuard/languageId

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Name that connector

2018-02-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
You can get some terminal blocks at home Depot in a pinch... Jaime Solorza On Feb 9, 2018 7:36 AM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > Generically, it is called a screw type pluggable if I remember right. Most > of the time I see them with one side soldered to a PCB so I don't

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

2018-02-09 Thread chuck
I can do the piece of metal too. But is it that much better? From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 8:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new product question Better is subjective. Your way is simple and cheap, and that might be better. Some rely on a properly tightened

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

2018-02-09 Thread Dave
True and that does hold better than Zip any day and I would buy. On 02/09/2018 09:51 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: It holds tighter than a zip tie.  You definitely can't pull the cable out of a transtector without shredding the jacket. I'm not going to try and tell you it's better.  A simple/cheap

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

2018-02-09 Thread Adam Moffett
Any of the single port transtector surge protectors. Found this on Google image search: http://www.engineeringradio.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/transtector-APLU1.jpg -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/9/2018 11:01:39 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new

[AFMUG] EPMP AC version?

2018-02-09 Thread Jon Langeler
Is that out yet? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hello World

2018-02-09 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
gcc -o output hello.c Will compile hello.c to an executable called output You may need to add switches for libraries to include. I'm skeptical that you'll be able to generate a bitstream with enough accuracy under Linux, without extreme programming measures. I'd suggest a digilent chipkit

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

2018-02-09 Thread Dave
What about a single loop on the actual enclosure either at the convergence of cables entry or at each connector? something like a raised loop large enough to pass 1/4" zip tie and small enough at each connector to pass a 1/8" zip Dave On 02/09/2018 09:30 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

2018-02-09 Thread Adam Moffett
Better is subjective. Your way is simple and cheap, and that might be better. Some rely on a properly tightened cable gland. Transtector has a a half-u piece of metal secured by a screwlike a 1 hole conduit strap. -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

2018-02-09 Thread chuck
I can, just trying to keep cost down. I am using my regular tower surge protector enclosure. Will have 4 circuits in and 4 circuits out. From: Dave Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 8:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new product question What about a single loop on the actual

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

2018-02-09 Thread Adam Moffett
It holds tighter than a zip tie. You definitely can't pull the cable out of a transtector without shredding the jacket. I'm not going to try and tell you it's better. A simple/cheap way is also better. Depends on who the buyer is. -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To:

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

2018-02-09 Thread chuck
Could you give me a link to the product that has this feature? From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 8:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new product question It holds tighter than a zip tie. You definitely can't pull the cable out of a transtector without shredding the

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

2018-02-09 Thread Adam Moffett
.a digression, but that picture reminded me that I really hate when they label ethernet ports "in" and "out". It makes no sense at all. -- Original Message -- From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/9/2018 11:07:18 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new product

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hello World

2018-02-09 Thread Bill Prince
This might be better for a simple overview. A 7-page explanation of make and makefiles. http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/make3/book/ch01.pdf bp On 2/9/2018 8:44 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: OK, but I need a file called “make”, right? And it needs stuff inside it.

Re: [AFMUG] bummed

2018-02-09 Thread Robert Andrews
Did you get them online? On 02/09/2018 11:33 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Bought 3 of the 29DC batts from Walmart. I need 4. Now it is saying no longer available. Arrgh. Wonder what is the closest...

Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires

2018-02-09 Thread Adam Moffett
Hahaha, a creative solution -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/9/2018 6:10:38 PM Subject: [AFMUG] tying down wires I wonder if I put one of these in the box: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Eaton-14-Terminal-Ground-Bar-Kit-GBK14CS/100175627 with the

Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires

2018-02-09 Thread Adam Moffett
Someone who knows what it is might try grounding with it. And they'll complain you didn't include the screws. -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/9/2018 6:10:38 PM Subject: [AFMUG] tying down wires I wonder if I put one of these in the box:

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP AC version?

2018-02-09 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
The 300s will work with both legacy 1000/2000 and with the new 3000. Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > On Feb 9, 2018, at 3:13 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > Well, they'll support 256QAM, so if the signals are good

Re: [AFMUG] bummed

2018-02-09 Thread chuck
I did an in store pickup. It said they had 6 but only had 3 when we got there. And ever since they have not been available anywhere. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 2:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bummed Did you get them online?

Re: [AFMUG] bummed

2018-02-09 Thread Robert Andrews
There is another 29DC version, I don't know if you got the cheaper or the $10 more expensive version but you can use them together. They are close enough that they shouldn't scavenge each other... On 02/09/2018 01:33 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I did an in store pickup. It said they had 6

Re: [AFMUG] bummed

2018-02-09 Thread chuck
Yeahbut, with Walmart, you get what you pay for you know. Nothing but Walmart's best for me. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 3:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bummed They have two versions, one is the "premium" with a little more

Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires

2018-02-09 Thread chuck
That is because it is a floating ground... From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 4:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires Someone who knows what it is might try grounding with it. And they'll complain you didn't include the screws. -- Original

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP AC version?

2018-02-09 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, they'll support 256QAM, so if the signals are good enough, you'll get some more out of them because of that. Beyond that, I don't know that there will be much in the way of gains on a 20mhz channel. As far as I know, they're backwards compatible with 1000 and 2000 APs, but it's possible

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP AC version?

2018-02-09 Thread George Skorup
Isn't the 3k is supposed to give us 4x4 MIMO and beam steering? And not just uplink beam steering like the 2k BSA, but also downlink, IIRC. On 2/9/2018 3:22 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: The 300s will work with both legacy 1000/2000 and with the new 3000. Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect

Re: [AFMUG] bummed

2018-02-09 Thread chuck
Odd, I went to Walmart and entered 29DC and every one came back as no longer available or out of stock. Walmart #: 550341783 Then one popped up in my local store. Walmart #: 563424242 for $86.83 Looks like the exact same battery but with a different SKU. -Original Message- From:

Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires

2018-02-09 Thread chuck
Or leave the screws. Space it off the back of the box such that the holes line up with the connectors on the PCB. Use the screws to clamp the wires. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 4:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires Someone who knows what it

[AFMUG] tying down wires

2018-02-09 Thread chuck
I wonder if I put one of these in the box: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Eaton-14-Terminal-Ground-Bar-Kit-GBK14CS/100175627 with the screws removed, if that would be a suitable thing to tie off cables coming into the box to? (not sure the image will come through)

Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires

2018-02-09 Thread Adam Moffett
If someone gets overzealous they can crush their wire flat. It definitely ain't coming out though. -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/9/2018 6:17:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires Or leave the screws. Space it off the back of the box such

Re: [AFMUG] bummed

2018-02-09 Thread Robert Andrews
They have two versions, one is the "premium" with a little more capacity. On 02/09/2018 01:57 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Odd, I went to Walmart and entered 29DC and every one came back as no longer available or out of stock. Walmart #: 550341783 Then one popped up in my local store. Walmart

Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires

2018-02-09 Thread Steve Jones
it works but they run 40 some bucks around here On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: > I’ve been looking for a solution like this. Neat idea. One of our guys is > basically trying to 3d print something like this > > Jon Langeler > Michwave Technologies,

Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires

2018-02-09 Thread Adam Moffett
That's robbery -- Original Message -- From: "Steve Jones" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/9/2018 8:59:11 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires it works but they run 40 some bucks around here On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Jon Langeler

Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires

2018-02-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
These as well. https://www.panduit.com/en/products/wire-routing-management-protection/cable-wire-ties-mounts-straps.html Jaime Solorza On Feb 9, 2018 8:42 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > We use these sometimes in enclosures to hold wires tied down with wire > ties

Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires

2018-02-09 Thread Jon Langeler
I’ve been looking for a solution like this. Neat idea. One of our guys is basically trying to 3d print something like this Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Feb 9, 2018, at 6:10 PM, wrote: > > I wonder if I put one of these in the box: >

Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires

2018-02-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
We use these sometimes in enclosures to hold wires tied down with wire ties especially inside our cable management systems. If required we also screw them into back panels.

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP AC version?

2018-02-09 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
This is all I have right now: Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > On Feb 9, 2018, at 4:33 PM, George Skorup wrote: > > Isn't the 3k is supposed to give us 4x4 MIMO and beam steering? And not just > uplink beam