Re: Konqueror and Java applets

2002-09-17 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Monday 16 September 2002 23:22, Martin Rowe wrote: On Monday 16 September 2002 11:22 pm, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: [snip] Can you supply some urls for me to test? Try http://www.400times.co.uk which has some navigation 'bubbles' on the left. In Galeon they appear in the browser window

new mailing list address

2002-09-17 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Due to problems with our current mail archives and issues with the speed that admin requests are handled we are moving the mailing list to asgardsrealm.net which Jamin Collins hosts. This is a gracious offer on his part. Brad will have the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail sent to the new list so no

Re: Fwd: Re: man page edits.

2002-09-17 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Tuesday 17 September 2002 13:49, Robert wrote: That's 'their file name' assuming that hasn't already been picked up, and it probably should mention that it doesn't search subdirectories of that path. (It also ignores file~ but that's getting a bit arcane) got that already, thanks.

Re: Java/Blackbox oversized window bug with IBM JRE

2002-07-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Nope, I have not tried this wm. Just visited the web page where it belongs. I could give it a whirl later today, perhaps. Will tell my observations of how it behaves with java. (I'll try JRE's from Sun and from IBM) there were reports that fvwm was exhibiting similar symptoms.

RE: Java/Blackbox oversized window bug with IBM JRE

2002-07-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 25-Jul-2002 Roy Wood wrote: One of the posts mentions SwingSet2 demo. Does anyone know what this is and where I can get it? It's a demo showing off the Swing GUI toolkit. Dunno about Sun, but IBM includes it with their SDK. Pretty nifty, I guess. Demonstrates that Java is still

Re: Java/Blackbox oversized window bug with IBM JRE

2002-07-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Yup, a bit exaggerated. The speed of the newest JVMs is great, if you ask me. Most Java apps I use, run quite smoothly. Btw, I experienced the bug with the Blackdown JRE too, but the problem was more often too small dialogs than too big.(Like dialog sizes of 2x10 pixels and such) -

Re: Java/Blackbox oversized window bug with IBM JRE

2002-07-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
It was my understanding that it was based off of Blackbox. Teach me to open my fool mouth... if it's based off of Blackbox, it's only in spirit, 'cause even *I* can tell the two of them don't look anything like each other. Like Gnome would ever adopt anything written in C++ in the first

any programmers with time on their hands

2002-07-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
So here is one way to track down the Java bug. Disable almost all of BlackboxWindow::BlackboxWindow(). Slowly enable line by line until the bug occurs. At least then we know where and can learn why. Also, I have heard the 0.62 does not demonstrate this problem but I have also heard that it is

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 24-Jul-2002 Mr.X wrote: I found something fairly interesting, thought I'd check here to see if anybody else can reproduce it before I submit. Using Sylpheed (0.8.0), if you hit the Get button a dialog pops up and shows the download status of the mail. If you toggle the decor of this

Re: Slight niggle/bug perhaps.

2002-07-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 24-Jul-2002 Marc Wilson wrote: On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 12:23:53PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: As I see it the best we can manage would look like this. process deleted Didn't you just describe bbappconf/bblaunch? :) yep, that was kind of the point (-:

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Actually, it could be an interesting thing to solve (albeit a very minor one): when I open a window with a text form in it, sometimes it isn't the right size to display the whole text, and having only the close-minimize buttons, but no handles, it is uncomfortable to scroll back forth.

RE: beta3 mouse shading

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 23-Jul-2002 Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: I determined what changes I needed to make -- the beta series wheel mouse patch only applies to switching workspaces, and thus only affected Screen.cc; the original patch I had was from x0r, and also had code for the window shading and thus

Re: beta3 mouse shading

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 23-Jul-2002 D. Olson wrote: Thank you so much! I applied the patch manually (cuz I don't know how to do it properly and I don't feel like finding out atm) and I recompiled and made an RPM. Yay! It works great. cd blackbox patch -p1 /path/to/patch

decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
If you use windows with no decor or minimal decor or are a heavy bbtool user please consider testing the cvs code. I made a few cleanups today which appear to be sound but I would like to hear positive results from a few users. Specifically: does your window lose its close button unexpectedly?

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
if you toggle decor on and off does the decor change? yep, the decor does change. one new thing that i did notice is that windows without decor get it back on a bb restart, but then continue to behave normally. what used to happen (and i'm not sure if this is a new change or not) was the

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Sorry, I am dumb... Is there a hot key to toggle this or something? Actually, more importantly, is this a feature available beta3? bbkeys has a binding for this there is no way to do it directly from blackbox.

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
As to the decorless window over a restart, I am looking into it. excellent. keep up the good work! for whatever reason the decor was not handled by the code which restores a window on startup. I added in the code. Needs loads of testing.

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
It also seems to work fine across a restart. Only thing I can see is when I un-decor a shaded window, it unshades (that's fine) but when I re-decor it it stays unshaded. Is this intended? Not that it's a big problem... I was just wondering if it was meant to do that. Oh, and why or are a

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 23-Jul-2002 Matt Wilson wrote: I'm not sure quite what's caused it, but it was something to do with switching decor on/off multiple times - two of the three windows I was decor-switching have done it: now the decor draws in unfocused state fine, but focused state doesn't update the decor

Re: will stop maintaining Dutch NLS and manpage after 0.65 (was

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I would like to enquire about what sort of responsibility, and what the requirements are for maintaining the blackbox manpage. I would love to assist Blackbox develop, and considering I don't have the programming knowledge (at the moment), this is a good place to start I believe. One

RE: Success: Building 0.65.0beta3 with MIPSpro

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Jul-2002 Brian Hechinger wrote: it works. yay!!! ok, here's what i needed to do. first of all, set the following environmental variables: CC=/usr/bin/cc CXX=/usr/bin/CC CXXFLAGS='-LANG:std' or for more optimization (what i used on my R10K Octane): CFLAGS='-O2

RE: will stop maintaining Dutch NLS and manpage after 0.65 (was

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I will update for 0.65 on Monday! But after the summer I'll be starting a freesoftware project under KDE, so i'll switch (for some time) to KDE as default desktop (to learn more about it). enjoy (-: To make all my spare programming time available to the new project next year I would

Re: Success: Building 0.65.0beta3 with MIPSpro

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I will look over your patch and get back to you. there are really only two changes that were made, first, '#include cstdlib' was removed since MIPSpro doesn't use it, and second, std::abs() doesn't exist on MIPSpro so i had to use the abs() in the C math routines, and needed to add

Re: a shot in the dark

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Jul-2002 Roy Wood wrote: I did not bother trying to dig through the thousands of messages (-: Yesterday evening I received a mail from one of Sun's people asking me to please test under 1.4.1 beta they just released. Downloaded it this morning. I also forwarded them the URL that Roy

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Jul-2002 Mike wrote: I don't know what the big deal is. I'd just leave it, who cares, not worth the time/thought/effort. If people are going to get all freaked out over something like this, let 'em. Cygwin is a more accurate depiction anyway so that is what the webpage now says.

Re: will stop maintaining Dutch NLS and manpage after 0.65 (was

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Hmm, ok, count me in then. My first language is Dutch and my second is English, so I don't really expect any problems with it. I'll look at the current Dutch manuals to see what style they're written in (e.g. formal or plain Dutch) and I'll just write the new ones just like it. If you

RE: custom menus on a per-style basis.

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Jul-2002 Benjamin Bunck wrote: Is it possible to associate a custom menu to a particular style? Ben No, sorry. The style is simply a layer of paint it does not affect the underlying structure.

RE: new bbconf release - 1.8

2002-07-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 18-Jul-2002 Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote: re, all bbconf 1.8 is set loose. This fixes a small buglet in the keybinding editor whereby you'd go, like, hey, add me one of them command thingeys, and bbconf would go, like, sure, dude, but wouldn't really do anything. Or something like

Re: bbconf 1.8 configure error(libqt3 detection)

2002-07-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I have verified that this library IS available with ldconfig -v. Any tips on how I can get the configure script to properly detect the installed qt-libraries ? libqt-mt is different from libqt. libqt-mt is what KDE uses. Perhaps that will help you track it down. does bbconf actually

Re: bbconf 1.8 configure error(libqt3 detection)

2002-07-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I have verified that this library IS available with ldconfig -v. Any tips on how I can get the configure script to properly detect the installed qt-libraries ? libqt-mt is different from libqt. libqt-mt is what KDE uses. Perhaps that will help you track it down. xOr Isn't just

Re: bbconf 1.8 configure error(libqt3 detection)

2002-07-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
unless you have libqt-mt-devel or whatever your dist calls it the configure script won't find it. Yep, like I said, I have all the development files installed as well. (libqt3-devel-3.0.4 package). I also jsut noticed that someone has filed a bug on the same problem at bbconf.sf.net.

Re: bbconf 1.8 configure error(libqt3 detection)

2002-07-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
This was intended, since libqt-mt is more commonly used than libqt. The -devel files for this however becomes funny. When I install qt from the source, I have to reconfigure teh source dir (the headers etc) to be mt or not depending on what the app is wanting that I'm compiling. Perhaps

RE: blackboxWM website update

2002-07-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 18-Jul-2002 Scott Furt wrote: To whoever out there has the time/permission to make changes to the blackboxwm.sf.net page, could you please update my link on the screenshots page to be: Scott Hurring http://hurring.com/screenshots/blackbox/ I mostly have screenshots of different styles

screenshots page updated

2002-07-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
page updated as per the 3 requests. Have a good day.

new Tracker on sf.net

2002-07-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I added a new Tracker to sf.net: website. Add your screenshot urls, contents adds/removes/changes, or whatever.

RE: cvs won't build: blackbox.cc:358: parse error before `'

2002-07-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 18-Jul-2002 paul wrote: Subject says it all. I'm getting the source via the standard anonymous cvs instruction provided by Sourceforge: cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\ /cvsroot/blackboxwm co blackbox Let me know if you need more info. TIA, PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL

a shot in the dark

2002-07-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I have submitted a bug about the Java issue on the java.sun.com bug tracker. Log outputs, an example program, and as much detail as possible was supplied. No I really do not expect much in return. We shall see though. I may need those of you who can easily reproduce the problem to submit info

after 0.65.0

2002-07-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
When 0.65.0 is release I plan to take about a month off from blackbox hacking. As some of you have commented my level of involvement is quite high and I am neglecting other obligations. This will also give me a chance to clear my mind and be fresh for the work ahead. Bugs in 0.65.0 (if any are

Re: 0.65.0 status

2002-07-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I can not recreate the licq dock issue. Anyone? What is the dock issue? I periodically use Licq and have seen no problem with it. fresh bug on the track stating that licq does not dock itself. They neglect to state a version of blackbox so this may be an old bug that is no longer

RE: NLS - Norwegian/NO language support in Blackbox

2002-07-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 18-Jul-2002 Øyvind Stegard wrote: Hi again, I noticed that Norwegian language support is missing from the Blackbox distribution. Perhaps I could do some translating, since Norwegian is my mother tongue.(If the Blackbox maintainers are interested in this) I'm afraid I would need some

Re: bbconf 1.8 configure error(libqt3 detection)

2002-07-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Or you could just apt-get install bbconf (-: And settle for 1.6??? (-: I uploaded 1.8 this time last (Wed) night.

Re: bbconf 1.8 configure error(libqt3 detection)

2002-07-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Arg! I really thought I understood how to check that a package was installed, but apparently not. when in doubt: dpkg --get-selections|grep foo.

Re: Compiler Options

2002-07-17 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
An easy way to add compiler options is to run the configure script with a few special environment variables set to the values you want. CXX == c++ compiler CXXFLAGS == compiler flags When I build blackbox, I run configure like this ... $ CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=i586 -Wall ./configure

scroll lock patch in cvs

2002-07-17 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I just committed the code which allows Scroll Lock to disable blackbox's keybindings. It is the last option in the Config menu. *NOTE* you *MUST* do a make install or the new entry will *NOT* appear. Unfortunately this also means anyone who maintains an NLS entry needs to send me an update.

Re: intent to remove Top and Bottom Center option from slit

2002-07-16 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 16-Jul-2002 Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone actually use either option and would miss it? Now is your chance to speak up! In most cases, I've simply left the slit in it's default bottom center

Re: intent to remove Top and Bottom Center option from slit

2002-07-16 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 16-Jul-2002 Es Bee Ex wrote: On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone actually use either option and would miss it? Now is your chance to speak up! I don't use it now but I have in the past. Why do you want to remove it? I

Re: grouping windows

2002-07-15 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 14-Jul-2002 Gerrit Hoetzel wrote: On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 10:51:35PM +0200 Tig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: crazy throught, no idea about programming possiblities and all that... I see this kind of thing a bit. Someone has any idea, seems resonable to a number of people, not so useful or

RE: [patch] blackbox-0.65.0beta2 anti-aliased fonts

2002-07-15 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 15-Jul-2002 Mike wrote: Hey, I updated Johannes Winkelmann's 0.65.0alpha2 aa patch, originally from http://www.hta-bi.bfh.ch/~winkj/. Works pretty well :) 40k is a bit much to send out to a list I figure, so just grab it from my site:

Re: alt and ctrl hotkeys

2002-07-15 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 15-Jul-2002 Martin Egholm Nielsen wrote: But since neither of them (Shaleh and Wilson) seemed very thrilled about that one, I just came up with a another suggestion... Don't include me in that... I support the idea of changing it at compile time. Sure, but did Shaleh's suggestion apply to

Re: grouping windows

2002-07-15 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
given that i started this thread i think it's time for me to apologize for doing so. :) this is a common issue on the list, do not feel bad. Basically we have two main groups of people. There is the old timer who has used blackbox since before 0.50. They like it just like it is

Re: grouping windows

2002-07-15 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 15-Jul-2002 Ciprian Popovici wrote: Quoting Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Give me real, valid reasons and explanations and I can be swayed. But also expect me to give you equally valid reasons against. Which reminds me :) that none of the messages against window tabs have

Re: [patch] blackbox-0.65.0beta2 anti-aliased fonts

2002-07-15 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
If this could be wrapper into a separate class, the #ifdef would be in one place only and therefore not really disturbing the source (except for the font code). Plus it would simplify the rest of the code a bit by remove some duplicated code - even if you don't plan to implement AA

RE: Yet another *tiny tiny* feature suggestion

2002-07-15 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 15-Jul-2002 Øyvind Stegard wrote: Hi there I know many people here oppose most new feature suggestions, and I understand, I think most Blackbox users will agree when I say that we don't won't a bloated and big wm. That being said, I would still like to point out a little issue that I

RE: Solution of Framemaker on Linux/blackbox

2002-07-15 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 15-Jul-2002 Marco Fioretti wrote: FYI, this is the conclusion of the story. Any comment/explanation/ further trick arer appreciated, as I confess I don't understand completely why the solution below works. It sounds like FrameMaker was designed for Solaris where the X server is always

RE: Screenshots

2002-07-15 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 15-Jul-2002 Derek Cunningham wrote: Could the website maintainer (Shaleh?) please update the link to my screenshots. I've included considerably more info here: http://www.nosleep.ca/screenshots.html Which will answer the 2 or 3 emails I receive each week. :) On my todo list.

RE: ScreenShots... too

2002-07-15 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 15-Jul-2002 Reinaldo Nolasco Sanches wrote: http://slackware.linuxbr.org/ss.jsp but this eventualy can change... ...put in BlackBox site :) yours too.

Re: Emulating a right-click on the root window

2002-07-15 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
1) you typically won't want to send i've just clicked the lmb, but show me the menu. for this to work, blackbox would have to have keybindings, which is not the case... kinda chicken and egg. That is the preferred solution, but there seems to be lots of resistance to the

Re: Emulating a right-click on the root window

2002-07-15 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 15-Jul-2002 Es Bee Ex wrote: On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once this is fully working then we move on to library separation. In here we also have the bbtools rewrite -- pager, keys, etc. Do you have an outline of blackboxlib

Re: Yet another *tiny tiny* feature suggestion

2002-07-15 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 16-Jul-2002 Marc Wilson wrote: On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 11:27:11AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: post 0.65.0 there will most likely be a away to access the root menu via the toolbar which will assist those running in rootless mode. The version of blackbox provided by fink has had

Re: alt and ctrl hotkeys

2002-07-14 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Myself, I use Mod4Mask, which is the Windows key on your average keyboard. Shaleh, is there some reason this can't be added to configure as a changeable option at build time? It gets asked a LOT. I do not want to add any compile time options. Giving people the ability to disable

Re: alt and ctrl hotkeys

2002-07-14 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 14-Jul-2002 Marc Wilson wrote: On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 09:48:05AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: Giving people the ability to disable blackbox's bindings while working in specific applications covers more of this need than simply changing the keybinding would. Just abuot any binding

Re: grouping windows

2002-07-14 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 14-Jul-2002 Ciprian Popovici wrote: Saturday, July 13, 2002, 7:43:43 PM, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13-Jul-2002 Roman Neuhauser wrote: Sorry if this is a complete nonsense, but is it possible now / after some coding to have blackbox treat several windows as one

Re: alt and ctrl hotkeys

2002-07-14 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Ok, then how about offering the user the opportunity to disable keybindings on a given workspace?! sorry, it would be hard to get it per workspace.

Re: start app in specific workspace

2002-07-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 13-Jul-2002 Robert wrote: Having just installed bblaunch, I notice some misleading messages $ bblaunch -s -w 4 pan # no errors $ bblaunch -s -w 5 pan Warning: XGetCommand can't allocate enough memory Yes there is a workspace 5 and it starts anyway (in wksp 5) Also bblaunch -w 4

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I didn't know about openbox. In the office I have stock RH 7.2, which doesn't have gnome 2 has it? I'll try it at home, though. openbox is a fork of blackbox 0.62.1. They basically did a lot of the same work as the 0.65 series (STL, cleanups) as well as new stuff -- netwm, wheel mouse,

Re: new NETWM key grabber

2002-07-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
It would still be nice to have Blackbox support showing the menu in response to a bbkey event. It would also be nice to have Balckbox support navigation of the menu via the arrow keys. There seems to be a lot of resistance to doing this in Blackbox though. Whatever. the goal is to

RE: grouping windows

2002-07-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 13-Jul-2002 Roman Neuhauser wrote: Sorry if this is a complete nonsense, but is it possible now / after some coding to have blackbox treat several windows as one? It would've saved me a few seconds (and writing this email :) right now if I could somehow move several windows across the

RE: bbmenu? [Was: Re: new NETWM key grabber]

2002-07-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Why not take out the menu and call it bbmenu? It could have its own keybindings or be incorporated with bbkeys somehow. Doing this you would have to let people decide for themself (probably in .blackboxrc) what a right-click on the background should start. This may be a bad idea, I don't

Re: bbmenu? [Was: Re: new NETWM key grabber]

2002-07-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
That is in fact how oroborus (an even more minimalistic window manager than blackbox) has always functioned. It provides no menus internally. sawfish too, and others. Personally, I believe a wm should be usable without 3rd party additions. Not 100% how we'd like, but usable.

RE: alt and ctrl hotkeys

2002-07-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 14-Jul-2002 neuron wrote: Posted this thread on a messageboard not related to bb, and got in reply that I may wanna try this mailing list, so I am :) running Maya on linux is SWEET, but .. I can't seem to get it working well in my favorite window managers. not the first time this has

RE: Java dialog problem encountered in other apps

2002-07-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 12-Jul-2002 Øyvind Stegard wrote: Just wanted to point out that I just experienced the dialog problem with LimeWire running JRE1.4.1 from Sun (the newest, as far as I know). Problem does not seem to be specifically related to just JBuilder, but perhaps it's worse with JBuilder than

Re: call for help -- need Java programmers

2002-07-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I expect the output to look this (non Java app) 0xe048ec: before manage (259, 172) w: 800, h: 600 0xe048ec: initial (259, 172) w: 800, h: 600 0xe048ec: after hints (259, 172) w: 800, h: 600 0xe048ec: sizes reflect the frame from now on 0xe048ec: after upsize (0, 0) w: 802, h: 619 0xe048ec: after

Re: Java dialog problem encountered in other apps

2002-07-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 12-Jul-2002 Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:23:53 +0200 Øyvind Stegard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to point out that I just experienced the dialog problem with LimeWire running JRE1.4.1 from Sun (the newest, as far as I know). Problem does not seem to be

Re: call for help -- need Java programmers

2002-07-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Let me parse this for everyone, so they can understand my frustration. 0x28000a9: fallback configure (0, 18) w: 1012, h: 783 we received a configure notify BEFORE we had managed the window, so we blindly applied it. The numbers printed are the ones from the configure event, no tweaking.

RE: Java Dialog Goofiness - How Can I Help Now?

2002-07-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 12-Jul-2002 Roy Wood wrote: There's been lots of discussion on the problems with JBuilder/Java dialog problems, but I've lost track of what I can do next to be of help. Anything I can do at this point? I've got a box here running JBuilder 6, and I'm ready to help out. -Roy I

Re: Java dialog problem encountered in other apps

2002-07-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
All I can say is, man, Java is weird. It's not weird, it's advanced (little humor from the Debian list) =^). (-: Isn't the source for the Blackdown implementation available? Looks like it is: http://blackdown.org/java-linux/docs/support/faq-release/FAQ-java-linux-8.html #ss8.4 I

Re: call for help -- need Java programmers

2002-07-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 12-Jul-2002 Ben Jansens wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 12 July 2002 11:35 am, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: Let me parse this for everyone, so they can understand my frustration. 0x28000a9: fallback configure (0, 18) w: 1012, h: 783 Does twm not pass

RE: stay on top feature

2002-07-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 12-Jul-2002 Gerrit Hoetzel wrote: Isn't there still a 'stay on top' feature for normal windows missing ? read on, only if you are realy interested :-) I have to write some sentences more, so that the mail robot does not complain about a too short message. I haven't yet had a

RE: ghostview

2002-07-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 11-Jul-2002 Tim Howe wrote: For some reason ghostview's interface doesn't seem to work under blackbox. I am using Blackbox 0.62.1 on OpenBSD 3.1 and on another machine running OpenBSD-current. I have the same problem on both boxes. I can use ghostview just fine in fvwm, so I am pretty

Re: new NETWM key grabber

2002-07-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 11-Jul-2002 Georg Nikodym wrote: One feature that I haven't seen mentioned is context sensitivity. I would like the ability to have keys do different things when the pointer is over the root window versus other WM decorations. I'd also like to be able to pass certain keys through to

Re: new NETWM key grabber

2002-07-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
3) open windows list in root menu and scroll it via keyboard is even better because of the separation of bbkeys and blackbox, menu scrolling is not going to happen.

RE: JBuilder and Blackbox-- Dialogs Way Too Big?

2002-07-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 11-Jul-2002 Roy Wood wrote: Anyone else working with JBuilder and Blackbox? With other window managers, JBuilder's dialogs are okay, but with Blackbox, they open way too big (as in much larger than the actual screen size). Any thoughts on what's up? Is BB providing some hinting

call for help -- need Java programmers

2002-07-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Have you or a friend recently been through a college programming course where they forced you to learn Java? Now is your chance to use this knowledge to help the blackbox community. We are receiving reports of odd sized windows. Transients, main windows, all of them. Simple programs which

RE: xprop and xwininfo on JBuilder dialog, running blackbox (Ove

2002-07-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
WM_NORMAL_HINTS(WM_SIZE_HINTS): program specified location: 278, 241 program specified size: 1054 by 743 window gravity: NorthWest this is the baffling bit. Blackbox is doing EXACTLY what the program asked it to do. These hints are set when

RE: xprop and xwininfo on JBuilder dialog, running blackbox (Ove

2002-07-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 11-Jul-2002 Roy Wood wrote: this is the baffling bit. Blackbox is doing EXACTLY what the program asked it to do. Weird. Anyone with any sort of familiarity with another wm have any idea what they are doing that is different? -Roy I have read the twm, wmaker, and E code. Near as

RE: Mandrake Linux menus

2002-07-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 11-Jul-2002 Ben Rasmussen wrote: Hello, Mandrake generates a blackbox menu automatically. Just include /etc/X11/blackbox/blackbox-menu in your blackbox menu. You can also edit it using the menudrake utility. In menudrake, make sure you change your environment to blackbox. same name

verbose Window patch

2002-07-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Enclosed is the verbose patch i mentioned on the Java thread. gunzip verbose.patch.gz cd blackbox patch -p0 /path/to/verbose.patch make when you run the new binary the path from initial request to final display has a print whenever the window size would have changed. There are also additional

Re: Testing the JBuilder (java?) oversized dialog problem with o

2002-07-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Does twm/others set some sort of root hint that it could be using? Does blackbox? I can't think of another way for it to behave differently.. xprop on root shows no hints under twm, wmaker sets a few. I really see nothing. I am hoping the user tests will at least give me enough

Re: verbose Window patch

2002-07-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 11-Jul-2002 Martin Egholm Nielsen wrote: Enclosed is the verbose patch i mentioned on the Java thread. Are you still willing to install a Java-app. and try for yourself? I've just created (read: modified an existing) one which reproduces the error 1 time out of 2-5 times you try...

Re: Testing the JBuilder (java?) oversized dialog problem with o

2002-07-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 11-Jul-2002 Øyvind Stegard wrote: OK, here's what I've done: * Applied verbose patch and enabled debugging in blackbox (perhaps I shouldn't have done that ?) * Started X with nothing but blackbox (Directed output from blackbox to file (both STDERR and OUT)) * Opened an aterm *

additional verbosity

2002-07-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Ok, to further track this down, I added a new print much earlier in the process. This is the absolute earliest that blackbox is aware of the window and 100% could have done nothing to affect it. No X calls have been made on the client's behalf at this point. Apply it on top of the previous

RE: additional verbosity

2002-07-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 11-Jul-2002 Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: Ok, to further track this down, I added a new print much earlier in the process. This is the absolute earliest that blackbox is aware of the window and 100% could have done nothing to affect it. No X calls have been made on the client's behalf

Re: JBuilder and Blackbox-- Dialogs Way Too Big?

2002-07-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 11-Jul-2002 Nils Grundback wrote: On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:23:33 -0400 Roy Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else working with JBuilder and Blackbox? With other window managers, JBuilder's dialogs are okay, but with Blackbox, they open way too big (as in much larger than the actual

Re: call for help -- need Java programmers

2002-07-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
We are receiving reports of odd sized windows. Transients, main windows, all of them. Simple programs which open and modify windows sizes AND demonstrate this bug would be VERY helpful. Attached is a simple GUI java app which can reproduce the problem ~ 1 in 5 times under Blackbox

Re: call for help -- need Java programmers

2002-07-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 12-Jul-2002 Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as I commented on the other thread, my second patch has a small problem. s/xmaprequest.parent/xmaprequest.window/; Grrr I thought I'd gotten all of those

Re: call for help -- need Java programmers

2002-07-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 12-Jul-2002 Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12-Jul-2002 Jamin W. Collins wrote: Grrr I thought I'd gotten all of those. Should have use the FR function rather than eyeballing it. =( If it would

RE: blackbox + sylpheed behaviour

2002-07-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
but the window will also be moved down and right (exactly the borderwidths of title bar and left border). When calling sylpheed repeatedly, its window moves down all along. I think it's a bug in the sylpheed code, but maybe related to blackbox. Sylpheed is sending us a configure

RE: new beta

2002-07-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 10-Jul-2002 Sam Halliday wrote: hmm, you wanted testing of the new beta2... after use for ~24hours (well, not all use... a night of it doing nothing and a day of work) i noticed that slide bars under all my apps stopped working correctly. the apps were using various toolkits, gtk+ ,

Re: new beta

2002-07-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 10-Jul-2002 Sam Halliday wrote: slide bars under all my apps, can you explain this more? Provide a sample app that shows this issue? well i think scroll bar is the technical term, but it escaped me at the time... it happenned under nedit, xmgrace and sylpheed-claws, the main windows.

RE: building blackbox with MIPSpro

2002-07-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
MIPSpro does not honor the C++ thing where variable scope is kept withing a for loop (for example) and so in the instance where the same variable name was used twice in the same function within seperate scope, i had to change one to be different so that MIPSpro could cope. would i be

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