RE: Israel's Secret Weapon

2003-03-17 Thread Halupovich Ilana
Jeroen gave a link Israeli nuclear 'power' exposed By Olenka Frankiel http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/correspondent/2841377.stm Vaanunu was kidnapped in Rome, not in London. Now if this reporter could not give *one* fact right, why should I think that other facts are right? Ilana

Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-17 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Nick Arnett wrote: If there's anything I really want to criticize, it's the if you're not for us, then you're against us attitude that seems to pervade discussion (if it can be called that) of this war. I'm not talking about here on the list so much as on the international stage. It lumps

Re: Children of Dune

2003-03-17 Thread G. D. Akin
Robert Seeberger wrote: Anyone watching this tonight? How about Riverworld next week? --- We won't get either one in Korea, at least until they come out on DVD (which I presume will happen eventually). Anyway, I have a friend recording them for me. George A

Re: Ah...My Favorite Topic - Books (Was Question about Spoilers)

2003-03-17 Thread G. D. Akin
Julia Thompson asked OK, I haven't read Gateway yet (wasn't there a book preceding it that I really ought to read first?), but I've read the others and enjoyed them. I've read both versions of Stranger, but a few years apart. (Summer of 1988 as opposed to spring of 1991) Gateway was the

Re: Children of Dune

2003-03-17 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Robert Seeberger wrote: Anyone watching this tonight? Yes. It seems to be covering _Dune: Messiah_ tonight. Though, I don't remember anything about capturing a worm until much, much later in the series. How about Riverworld next week? I'd like to see what they do with

Re: Freedom Vanilla Ice Cream (was RE: Commentary on French-bashing)

2003-03-17 Thread S.V. van Baardwijk-Holten
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:44:02 -0800, Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: S.V. van Baardwijk-Holten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 02:18 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Freedom Vanilla Ice Cream (was RE: Commentary on

Re: Iran's Nuclear Threat

2003-03-17 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 08:38:13AM +0100, Jean-Marc Chaton wrote: on an other hand any innocent live taken in the process will refuel the spiral of revenge an retaliation that is the ground for terrorism. There have been many, many innocent people killed in wars over the years, and I don't see

Re: Corrected French history

2003-03-17 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Gautam Mukunda wrote: I would go so far as to say that the people of France could hardly have fought less hard. But the Vichy government, as I've pointed out several times, and as you've never even attempted to rebut, had a non-trivial degree of independence from Nazi control.

Re: Corrected French history

2003-03-17 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Nick Arnett wrote: I thought Bulgaria was the only other nation under occupation to have a puppet government openly collaborate in the manner of the Vichys. Is that not correct? No! Germany _never_ attacked any future Iron Courtain country [except Poland, of course], because they

Re: eye-wrack or eee-rock?

2003-03-17 Thread iaamoac
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody know which pronunciation is actually correct for Iraq? eye-wrack or eee-rock? It is ee-wrack. I have a friend who is an ee-ranian immigrant, and he is very insistant upon this. What about Qatar? I've always heard it as

Re: Regarding the France's Influence thread

2003-03-17 Thread iaamoac
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an analysis made by someone who is pretty good about being a good researcher, but nobody is perfect. It was posted by him on a mailing list on Wednesday, 12 March 2003. I'm not sure what significance he attaches to

Our Glorious Leader's biography

2003-03-17 Thread Alberto Monteiro
I was searching for some information about Saddam, and I found this: http://www.uruklink.net/iraq/bio.htm It's no wonder such a wonderful and nice leader got 100% votes! Even I feel compelled to vote Saddam in the next election, for Mayor of Rio de Janeiro Alberto Monteiro

President Bush to Address the Nation Tonight

2003-03-17 Thread J.D. Giorgis
ABC has just shown video of a US military officer telling troops in Kuwait that the President is going to talk to the nation tonight. In other news, forces in Kuwait packed up their civilian items and placed them into storage today, and yesterday they opened their vacuum-sealed chemical suits.

WHO Issues Alert, CDC Activates War Room

2003-03-17 Thread J.D. Giorgis
World Health Organization issues emergency travel advisory Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) Spreads Worldwide 15 March 2003 | GENEVA -- During the past week, WHO has received reports of more than 150 new suspected cases of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), an atypical pneumonia

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-17 Thread Ray Ludenia
iaamoac wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, now we are being hosted by leagin the US troops prepared^^ to carry out this resolution in the lurch in the Gulf. Typo correction:

Re: sweat

2003-03-17 Thread William T Goodall
On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 06:36 am, The Fool wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/03/15/perspiration.reut/index.html Study: Male sweat brightens women's moods So perhaps the declining birth rate in the developed world is due to regular bathing and the use of antiperspirant? -- William T

RiverWorld (was: Children of Dune)

2003-03-17 Thread Horn, John
From: Robert Seeberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] How about Riverworld next week? I haven't heard about this one. When is it on? I'm a *huge* fan of Farmer's RiverWorld books! - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: sweat

2003-03-17 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, William T Goodall wrote: On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 06:36 am, The Fool wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/03/15/perspiration.reut/index.html Study: Male sweat brightens women's moods So perhaps the declining birth rate in the developed world is due to

RE: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-17 Thread Horn, John
From: Doug Pensinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Why? Hitler and Nazism symbolize more than the holocaust. I associate fascism, secret police and several other nasty things with him and his regime. I think it's in poor taste but not anti-Semitic. (It's taken me a long time to get a

RE: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-17 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Minette ... Maybe some numbers would help. How many escaped from France with French help? Gautam claimed that the French record was much worse than other countries. Do you have numbers that

Total Information Delusion

2003-03-17 Thread Han Tacoma
Total Information Delusion http://www.business2.com/articles/web/0,1653,46876,00.html John Poindexter's secretive Total Information Awareness project is stalled in Congress. But even if it does move forward, the technology behind it may not work. By Erick Schonfeld, February 03, 2003 If I

Re: Ah...My Favorite Topic - Books (Was Question about Spoilers)

2003-03-17 Thread Steve Sloan II
Julia Thompson wrote: OK, I haven't read Gateway yet (wasn't there a book preceding it that I really ought to read first?), Nope, Gateway is the first book in the series. I think there may be one or two short stories in _The Gateway Trip_ that were *set* before Gateway, but they were written

Re: The World's First Hippo Prosthesis

2003-03-17 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know the Flanders Swann Mud song? A bold Hippopotamus was standing one day On the banks of the cool Swhalimar He gazed at the bottom as it peacefully lay By the light of the evening star Away on a hilltop, sat combing her hair Was a fair Hippopotami maid

RE: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-17 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:07:44 -0600 From: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] We do NOT all look alike! ;-) Too

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-17 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Who is the sheriff? Horn, John wrote: From: Doug Pensinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Why? Hitler and Nazism symbolize

Re: Ah...My Favorite Topic - Books (Was Question about Spoilers)

2003-03-17 Thread Steve Sloan II
Steve Sloan II wrote: Nope, Gateway is the first book in the series. I think there may be one or two short stories in _The Gateway Trip_ that were *set* before Gateway, but they were written later. On second thought, George is right. There was a story set in the same universe that was written

Re: Brawl erupts after song played at rodeo

2003-03-17 Thread Julia Thompson
Marvin Long, Jr. wrote: On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Julia Thompson wrote: (What were the dates of the rodeo here this year, anyway? I've been kind of under a rock all month) Beats me. I don't ride cows, I just eat 'em. I usually see something in the paper about the auction where the

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-17 Thread Julia Thompson
Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Who is the sheriff? Horn, John wrote: From: Doug Pensinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Why?

Re: Brawl erupts after song played at rodeo

2003-03-17 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:05 AM Subject: Re: Brawl erupts after song played at rodeo Marvin Long, Jr. wrote: On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Julia Thompson wrote: (What were the

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-17 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:07 AM Subject: Re: Who is the sheriff? Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs

Re: Iran's Nuclear Threat

2003-03-17 Thread Jean-Marc Chaton
* Erik Reuter [Mon, 17/03/2003 at 06:19 -0500] On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 08:38:13AM +0100, Jean-Marc Chaton wrote: on an other hand any innocent live taken in the process will refuel the spiral of revenge an retaliation that is the ground for terrorism. There have been many, many innocent

Re: Iran's Nuclear Threat

2003-03-17 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 06:20:33PM +0100, Jean-Marc Chaton wrote: I rephrase it : in the event of a war terrorism will increase Long term, I think you're wrong. We will never be able to prove it either way, but I think the onus is on you to prove your point, since you are arguing that the direct

Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-17 Thread Bryon Daly
Matt Grimaldi wrote: It also says If you don't do exactly as we want, then we'll consider you an enemy. It worries me greatly that our government has to resort to intimidation bordering on extortion in order to attempt an action that they consider so obvious and self-evident. Who has the

Battlestar Galactica remake on scifi

2003-03-17 Thread Jon Gabriel
Brief blurb from medialifemagazine.com: The Sci-Fi remake of ?Battlestar Galactica? has begun casting. Mary McDonnell (?Dances With Wolves?) has been signed, while Edward James Olmos (?Stand and Deliver?) is negotiating to play Commander Adama. ~~ That should be a surprise to Ronny

Re: Iran's Nuclear Threat

2003-03-17 Thread Jean-Marc Chaton
* Erik Reuter [Mon, 17/03/2003 at 12:23 -0500] On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 06:20:33PM +0100, Jean-Marc Chaton wrote: I rephrase it : in the event of a war terrorism will increase Long term, I think you're wrong. We will never be able to prove it either way, but I think the onus is on you to

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-17 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, Erik Reuter wrote: say) to listen more than talk. And I think it does me good to just listen to what you and Gautam and John G., for instance, have to say. Not that you meant it that way, but it struck me as funny that you grouped me in with JDG politically. I

Scouted: Boston Globe Reporter released a war story too early

2003-03-17 Thread Jon Gabriel
Boston Globe Reporter Expelled from Iraq http://www.editorandpublisher.com/editorandpublisher/headlines/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1838545 or http://makeashorterlink.com/?J57E216D3 _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail

Scouted: So much for *that* story

2003-03-17 Thread Jon Gabriel
Journalist Arrested for Smuggling Guns into Gatwick Airport http://media.guardian.co.uk/presspublishing/story/0,7495,914496,00.html Jon ROU Do Not Pass Go. ROU Do Not Collect 200 Pounds _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-17 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha! I group you three as people who have advanced persuasive pro-war arguments that made me stop and think about my prejudices and fears. Which remain, but their accuracy remains to be seen. Marvin Long Why thank you Marvin. I'm not

Scouted: Doh!

2003-03-17 Thread Jon Gabriel
Ananova: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_761225.html?menu=news.quirkies Police red-faced after hailing major cocaine coup Police in Italy have released eight men after the haul of cocaine they were seized with turned out to be athletes foot powder. Officers had announced to news

RE: The evil that Telcos do

2003-03-17 Thread Horn, John
From: Marvin Long, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you're a customer of SBC's dsl service, you might be interested in this. If not, you might be interested anyway just for the oh jeez factor. http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/03/14/BU35890.DTL Dang. I wish I had

Re: Iran's Nuclear Threat

2003-03-17 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 07:19:36PM +0100, Jean-Marc Chaton wrote: I was just expriming an opinion, I'm not fighting beak and nails for others to share the same opinion or to make the point. I don't have the intellectual abilities for that. Why bother to express the opinion then? We aren't

Re: Battlestar Galactica remake on scifi

2003-03-17 Thread Bryon Daly
Jon Gabriel wrote: Brief blurb from medialifemagazine.com: The Sci-Fi remake of ?Battlestar Galactica? has begun casting. Mary McDonnell (?Dances With Wolves?) has been signed, while Edward James Olmos (?Stand and Deliver?) is negotiating to play Commander Adama. Wasn't there some sort of

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-17 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 12:32 PM Subject: Re: Who is the sheriff? But if you think you're scared - I'm so jittery right now I can barely think straight. As far as I can

US Sending Food to the DPRK

2003-03-17 Thread J.D. Giorgis
U.N. envoy says U.S. food donation keeps aid flowing to North Korea Sun Mar 16, 4:41 AM ET BEIJING - A U.N. envoy bound for North Korea (news - web sites) said Sunday that the United States is promising to send 40,000 tons of food immediately for the hungry nation. Maurice Strong, a

Re: The Arrogant Empire

2003-03-17 Thread Han Tacoma
On Sunday, March 16, 2003 11:56 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: http://www.msnbc.com/news/885222.asp?0cv=KA01cp1=1 [Partial Article] The United States will soon be at war with Iraq. It would seem, on the face of it, a justifiable use of military force. Saddam Hussein runs one of the most

Some insight into Saddam (Was: Scouted: Boston Globe Reporterreleaseda war story too early)

2003-03-17 Thread Bryon Daly
Jon Gabriel wrote: Boston Globe Reporter Expelled from Iraq http://www.editorandpublisher.com/editorandpublisher/headlines/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1838545 or http://makeashorterlink.com/?J57E216D3 I search on the Globe's web site to see what their reaction to this was, but

Coup in Central African Republic

2003-03-17 Thread J.D. Giorgis
CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC: Rebel Leader Stages Coup; Refugees Flee UN WIRE Rebel commander General Francois Bozize, who led a weekend coup in the Central African Republic while President Ange-Felix Patasse was in Niger for a meeting of African leaders, suspended the constitution and dismissed

Re: Ah...My Favorite Topic - Books (Was Question about Spoilers)

2003-03-17 Thread William T Goodall
On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 01:22 am, G. D. Akin wrote: Julia asked What are your favorites of all the Hugo novels? Julia Tough question! I'll pick my top five in no particular order. - 1978 Gateway Frederick

US Formally Withdraws Resolution

2003-03-17 Thread J.D. Giorgis
Reading between the lines here, basically what happened is this: a country whose leadership supports the war, but faces unhappiness with the war among its own people and/or possible diplomatic retribution from France is going to be unlikely, ceteris paribis, to vote for a resolution when it knows

Re: US Formally Withdraws Resolution

2003-03-17 Thread Bryon Daly
J.D. Giorgis wrote: Before the ambassadors of the three countries entered a closed Security Council session this morning on Iraq, Greenstock announced, We have had to conclude that council consensus will not be possible, adding that the three countries would therefore not seek a vote on the

Re: Nation States

2003-03-17 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 19:10 16-03-03 -0500, Gary Nunn wrote: So who all is still playing Nation States? raises hand I'm still in the game, although the game has horribly little gameplay. Keeping the relevant page on my website up-to-date ( www.brin-l.com [Fun Games] ) is more time-consuming than the actual

Re: Re: Re: France's influence

2003-03-17 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 18:24 16-03-03 -0600, Ronn Blankenship wrote: Er, John, I think you need to read up on how a democracy works. In a democracy, decisions are not made by the populace but by the politicians that were elected by the populace. No, that is the definition of a _republic_. That's not entirely

Re: President Bush to Address the Nation Tonight

2003-03-17 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:33 AM 3/17/03 -0800, J.D. Giorgis wrote: ABC has just shown video of a US military officer telling troops in Kuwait that the President is going to talk to the nation tonight. Right in the middle of class for me. In other news, forces in Kuwait packed up their civilian items and placed

RE: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-17 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 19:20 16-03-03 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: If the US was under such occupation, what would happen? Well, I hope to God that if I wasn't dead, I'd be helping to smuggle Jews out of the country, and I'm confident that the rest of the population would do the same. That's very unlikely. It is

Re: The French Connection

2003-03-17 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- J.D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The French Connection By WILLIAM SAFIRE France, China and Syria all have a common reason for keeping American and British troops out of Iraq: the three nations may not want the world to discover that their nationals have been illicitly supplying

Re: Re: Re: France's influence

2003-03-17 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, J. van Baardwijk wrote: At 18:24 16-03-03 -0600, Ronn Blankenship wrote: Er, John, I think you need to read up on how a democracy works. In a democracy, decisions are not made by the populace but by the politicians that were elected by the populace. No, that is

Re: France's influence

2003-03-17 Thread iaamoac
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], J. van Baardwijk That's not entirely correct. In The Netherlands, our politicians have been elected by the populace, and decisions are made by those politicians. However, The Netherlands is NOT a republic -- it's a democracy (with a constitutional monarchy).

Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-17 Thread iaamoac
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 19:20 16-03-03 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: If the US was under such occupation, what would happen? Well, I hope to God that if I wasn't dead, I'd be helping to smuggle Jews out of the country, and I'm confident

Re: The World's First Brain Prosthesis

2003-03-17 Thread Han Tacoma
On Sunday, March 16, 2003 1:17 PM, Adrew Crystall wrote: On 16 Mar 2003 at 17:06, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: From: Han Tacoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] The World's First Brain Prosthesis By DUNCAN GRAHAM-ROWE Posts like these are one of the reasons for being addicted to the list.

Re: The World's First Brain Prosthesis

2003-03-17 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
I thought the world's first brain prosthesis was the wife. Marvin Long Run away! Maru Austin, Texas Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA) http://www.breakyourchains.org/john_poindexter.htm ___

Re: France's influence

2003-03-17 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 20:37 17-03-03 +, John Giorgis wrote: That's not entirely correct. In The Netherlands, our politicians have been elected by the populace, and decisions are made by those politicians. However, The Netherlands is NOT a republic -- it's a democracy (with a constitutional monarchy). Are

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-17 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Gautam Mukunda wrote: Why thank you Marvin. I'm not posting right now (except for this) I did 110+ hours at the office last week (including 2:00am Saturday, which _sucked_, let me tell you) and would be looking at the same this week, except I leave for Denmark on

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-17 Thread iaamoac
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha! I group you three as people who have advanced persuasive pro-war arguments that made me stop and think about my prejudices and fears. Which remain, but their accuracy remains to be

Re: France's influence

2003-03-17 Thread iaamoac
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], J. van Baardwijk Absolutely. Come Sunday, I will have been living in The Netherlands for the last 36 years. I can assure you that our politicians have been elected (two elections so far this year), and I can assure you that if my country would be a republic, I

Re: Israel's Secret Weapon

2003-03-17 Thread Paul Walker
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 10:58:54PM +0100, J. van Baardwijk wrote: For those interested, _Israel's Secret Weapon_ will be aired tomorrow (Monday) on BBC Two at the ungodly hour of 23:20 GMT (which, in my timezone, is the even more ungodly time of 00:20 hours). That's what videos are for. --

RE: Thomas Covenant (was RE: Question about Spoilers)

2003-03-17 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Lalith Vipulananthan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debbi wrote: snippage instead the reader is asked to accept that a violent, brutal act is the first impulse of a hero. :P Well, this forms part of the fundamental reason why the first Covenant trilogy strays from the majority of

Re: France's influence

2003-03-17 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: iaamoac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 2:55 PM Subject: Re: France's influence --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], J. van Baardwijk Absolutely. Come Sunday, I will have been living in The Netherlands for the

Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-17 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 20:39 17-03-03 +, John Giorgis wrote: If the US was under such occupation, what would happen? Well, I hope to God that if I wasn't dead, I'd be helping to smuggle Jews out of the country, and I'm confident that the rest of the population would do the same. That's very unlikely. It

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-17 Thread Paul Walker
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 08:53:13PM -, iaamoac wrote: struggle, both in terms of the stakes (the survival of western civilization) and the costs (tremendous sacrifice by almost all I really don't think 'western civilization' is at stake here... kind of overdramatising. -- Paul *

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-17 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're welcome. Get some sleep. Not part of the job description, unfortunately :-( It's the people on *this* side of the Atlantic I worry about. Marvin Long I worry about them too, of course. Heck, I'm one of them. But the only way I see

Re: France's influence

2003-03-17 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 15:11 17-03-03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote: Absolutely. Come Sunday, I will have been living in The Netherlands for the last 36 years. I can assure you that our politicians have been elected (two elections so far this year), and I can assure you that if my country would be a republic, I

Re: France's influence

2003-03-17 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:21 PM Subject: Re: France's influence At 15:11 17-03-03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote: Absolutely. Come Sunday, I will have been living in The

Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-17 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:06 PM Subject: Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War) No, spoken like someone who knows that with most people in such a situation,

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-17 Thread Richard Baker
John G said: Well, I might rank the world situation in 1986-1991 (Rejykavik - Soviet coup), as on par with this situation, but yeah, exactly right. If the US fails* here in disarming a rogue State, even before it goes nuclear, the prospects for Western Civilization in the Terrorism Age

Re: France's influence

2003-03-17 Thread iaamoac
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 15:11 17-03-03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote: Absolutely. Come Sunday, I will have been living in The Netherlands for the last 36 years. I can assure you that our politicians have been elected (two elections so far

Re: Deadlier Than War

2003-03-17 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 08:22 PM 3/16/2003 -0800, you wrote: Kevin Tarr wrote: So to carry the analogy, the French people may think the USA is acting by itself, but the people who matter know the real story. Or at least think they do. Doug Right. And there are those who will believe their fantasies no matter how

Re: France's influence

2003-03-17 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 15:30 17-03-03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote: So, a republic does not have a monarch. The Netherlands does have a monarch, therefore The Netherlands is not a republic. Q.E.D. But, it isn't a democracy either. Democracies don't have monarchs. Then how would you describe countries like The

Re: France's influence

2003-03-17 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:50 PM Subject: Re: France's influence At 15:30 17-03-03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote: So, a republic does not have a monarch. The Netherlands does

Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-17 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 15:34 17-03-03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote: No, spoken like someone who knows that with most people in such a situation, their survival instinct kicks in and takes over. But, Gautam provided plenty of counterexamples in other countries where the Nazis attacked. Examples where people's lives

Re: France's influence

2003-03-17 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: iaamoac [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: France's influence Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:39:52 - --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 15:11 17-03-03 -0600, Dan

Re: France's influence

2003-03-17 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 21:39 17-03-03 +, John Giorgis wrote: So, a republic does not have a monarch. The Netherlands does have a monarch, therefore The Netherlands is not a republic. Q.E.D. Uhhh. I don't know how Dutch dictionaries work, but in English dictionary definitions are *OR* propositions, not

RE: Thomas Covenant (was RE: Question about Spoilers)

2003-03-17 Thread Horn, John
From: Doug Pensinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I did not like the first book of that series but thought the second one was OK. I hate books where the main character is pathetic. And the woman in that book was pretty pathetic in the first one. But she got better in the second...

Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-17 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:34:58 -0600 - Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL

Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-17 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:01 PM Subject: Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War) At 15:34 17-03-03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote: No, spoken like someone who

Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-17 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apparently not -- unless he signed up for military service in the front lines in Iraq, and didn't bother to tell us about it. Jeroen Make love, not war van Baardwijk Not an entirely unfair question, although rather ironic coming from you,

Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-17 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:33:17 -0600 - Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL

Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-17 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:25 PM Subject: Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War) From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs

Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-17 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many non-Jews were sent to concentration camps for helping the Jews? How many were put to death? If I read Gautam right, many people did fight the Holocaust with relatively minimal risk. If that's what Gautam is saying, then I think I'll

RE: Battlestar Galactica remake on scifi

2003-03-17 Thread Gary L. Nunn
Jon Gabriel wrote Brief blurb from medialifemagazine.com: The Sci-Fi remake of ?Battlestar Galactica? has begun casting. Mary McDonnell (?Dances With Wolves?) has been signed, while Edward James Olmos (?Stand and Deliver?) is negotiating to play Commander Adama. I loved Battlestar

Re: Scouted: Doh!

2003-03-17 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 17 Mar 2003 at 13:33, Jon Gabriel wrote: Ananova: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_761225.html?menu=news.qu irkies Police red-faced after hailing major cocaine coup Police in Italy have released eight men after the haul of cocaine they were seized with turned out to be athletes foot

Re: US Formally Withdraws Resolution

2003-03-17 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 17 Mar 2003 at 14:48, Bryon Daly wrote: J.D. Giorgis wrote: Before the ambassadors of the three countries entered a closed Security Council session this morning on Iraq, Greenstock announced, We have had to conclude that council consensus will not be possible, adding that the

RE: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-17 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:39 AM 3/17/03 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:07:44 -0600 From: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL

Language refreshers

2003-03-17 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
At a party on Friday night, a friend convinced me that I needed to stop talking about it and get back to school to (re)learn French^WFreedom. Having him babble 2 sentences at me, and I could only understand the first 3 words.. ugh! I grew up hearing Quebecois and English (my first 5 words were

RE: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-17 Thread Horn, John
From: Ronn!Blankenship [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (And I bet some people are glad that no one brought up that *other* slang meaning of John . . .) That's one of the jokes I had in mind... Sometimes I hate my name... - jmh ___

Re: President Bush to Address the Nation Tonight

2003-03-17 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: J.D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 6:33 AM Subject: President Bush to Address the Nation Tonight ABC has just shown video of a US military officer telling troops in Kuwait that the President

Re: France's influence

2003-03-17 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 17:05 17-03-03 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: So, a republic does not have a monarch. The Netherlands does have a monarch, therefore The Netherlands is not a republic. Q.E.D. Uhhh. I don't know how Dutch dictionaries work, but in English dictionary definitions are *OR* propositions, not

Re: RiverWorld (was: Children of Dune)

2003-03-17 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 8:33 AM Subject: RiverWorld (was: Children of Dune) From: Robert Seeberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] How about Riverworld next week? I haven't heard

RE: President Bush to Address the Nation Tonight

2003-03-17 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Robert Seeberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 03:16 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: President Bush to Address the Nation Tonight - Original Message - From: J.D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Language refreshers

2003-03-17 Thread Paul Walker
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 03:14:27PM -0800, Miller, Jeffrey wrote: I've also a smattering of Norweigian, and am fluent in ASL. Anyone else Du snakker norsk? Jeg tror det var bare meg. :) (Not that I can speak it very well at all. But a few words, yes.) -- Paul How long is a piece of (char

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