JDG wrote:
Since this health exception includes mental health, it means that any
woman desiring an abortion is able to claim the health exception.
Even one that could not get a doctor to back her claim up?
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the sexes?
Has anyone suggested that they are not?
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In any case, labels aside, the center is pretty much by definition the
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administration has demonstrated disdain for the
Geneva Convention and a willingness to condone torture in many other
instances, his diatribe falls flat.
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not have enough significance to render a comparison here.
I agree more or less with the rest of your post - that our priorities
changed post cold war, but I'd argue that it wasn't necessary to prop up
those dictators in the first place.
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of this and the growing prominence of religious
fanaticism in our country, our society is no longer as attractive to the
world as it once was.
All IMO, of course.
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Ronn! wrote:
I wrote:
Well, anyway, mine are _pink_ when they are visible, which they _are
not_!!!
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So there maru
Can't argue with logic like that . . .
What's logic got to do with it? 8^)
You'll See Green Alligators And Long-Necked Geese Maru
Humpty back camels and a brace o' fleas
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Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
You'll See Green Alligators And Long-Necked Geese Maru
Humpy back camels and some chimpanzees
Julia
Ask Me About Thanksgiving '75 Maru
What about Thanksgiving '75?
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hmmm, where
, just that I believe
that we should let our good ideas do as much of the work for us as we can
get away with even if it takes considerably longer.
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10) No Answer - on whether the ability to purchase a nuclear weapon
from the DPRK constitute a threat
Inspection teams + U.S. pressence + sanctions = No threat.
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JDG wrote:
At 08:47 PM 4/30/2005 -0700, Doug wrote:
My suggestion was meant to imply that it makes more sense to attack S.A.
than it does to attack Iraq,
O.k., its not clear from this message.Do you believe that the US
should have pursued a war against Saudi Arabia after 9/11?
I think
.
Thank you for your answers.
You're certainly welcome.
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Ronn! wrote:
Which piece?
Optional.
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, but not at all on the second. I
disagree with the Bush approach, but the removal of Hussein (and all like
despots) was desireable.
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for other purposes doesn't detract from the fact that
these are retirement savings from the standpoint of the payee.
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are based upon expected payments
nor
expected assets in the Trust Fund.
I think that at least some of them believe both, but as long as the
expected assets are large enough to cover the expected payments, there's
no problem.
So the challenge is how to make the numbers agree.
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, because Social Security is in
everyone's interest, it's highly unlikely that they would be interested in
scrapping it (look at recent poll numbers) and third, the 12.4% _is_
forgone consumption, isn't it?
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on the committee expressed doubts
that he was fit for the job based on his behavioral anomalies...
Even when I _caricature_ leftists I couldn't come up with
you, Doug.
I don't know. I think your EEVVIILL, EEVVIILL was pretty good.
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over the Iraqi oil fields.
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Gautam wrote:
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
But, look, why is it so hard to believe that
people
can do things for more than one reason?
Not hard at all, if that was what happened, but this
war was prosecuted by
scaring the American People with images
by the administration.
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OK, but what's that got to do with abortion?
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local authority
unless it is criminal. It is crime-fighting, not nation-building.
Not that I don't agree with most of your post but didn't we target Bosnian
infrastructure - bridges, power plants etc. with the bombing. I thought
the only thing we tried to avoid was civilian casualties.
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In my opinion, if one _favors_ tradition over change (or vice-versa), then
one is inherently closed minded to some extent.
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that there is some inate drive to complexity
it simply means that in a world filled with successful organisms the
only way to succeed is to try something new and new things are usually
more complex than existent
things
So there is no linearity.
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conclusions with
his open mind than you have.
Well then why don't you post some evidence instead of heaving insults.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but from what I understand the Pope stifled debate on
the subject of women in the clergy.
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JDG wrote:
And of course, the startling conclusion from Doug's remarks is that the
alternative to backsliding is a one-Party hegemony of the
Democrats.
More insults. Is that how they teach debate at Case Western or is it just
a bad habit you picked up on the internet?
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On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 12:18:22 -0400, JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 09:51 PM 4/5/2005 -0700, Doug wrote:
Oh, and if you looked at the individual data points would evolution go
directly from good to better to best?
What is good in the context of evolution?
Poor wording on my part. Measure
that, I'd bet another Doug Nickle that Bush insiders had a good
idea that if there were any WMDs in Iraq they were few and far between
because they were directing the inspectors where to go and what to look
for and apart from a few shells that had probably got lost in the
bureaucratic shuffle
Gautam wrote:
Gee, thanks Doug (:-)), I didn't know that until I
read it on list :-( This is my first day reading the
list in weeks - I'm so overloaded with work this is
kind of my despairing gesture at ever getting it
finished...
Yea, I'm busy too, but I'm easily distracted. Especially when I
that we now know ended all of Hussein's WMD programs.
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it not been for the timidity of McClellan and abysmal intelligence,
Richmond might have been taken at that time.
Whether or not the Union won the Civil War, the institution of slavery in
the South was living on borrowed time, IMO.
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Erik wrote:
* Doug Pensinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Dan wrote:
there is no empirical evidence for human rights.
I'll bet a nickle you could prove that human rights provide a more
Or perhaps you meant:
#43 Doug Nickle Los Angeles Dodgers
Age: 30
Height: 6-4
Weight: 210 lbs.
Bats: Right
Throws
a bargain, and
the option to invade would have remained.
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weakness and his vulnerability to
measures other than a full out invasion.
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Ronn! wrote:
Is it reflected in a statistically significant decline in immigration
rates?
I've read recently that it was, in fact, but I don't have a cite. It was
an article about how fewere professionals and students were electing to
come here.
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it.
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Gautam wrote:
By the way, Pedro looked good in his first start for
the mets.
Yes, he looked excellent. Let's just hope that he's
rehabbed his shoulder properly.
Hey, hey, hey, how about that Kirk Saarloos one hitting your Orioles
tonight!
Thank goodness for baseball season. Go A's!
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and
climb right up it toward the person doing the poking . . .
Except, unless it's some sort of psychotic snake it's going to be trying
to get away from the thing some 20-50 times its size poking it with a
stick.
I take it you don't like snakes?
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Dan wrote:
I realize that a president neither you nor I voted for is in office.
But, I believe in standards that are superior to Dan likes or Doug
likes.
Besides Bush's actions are not your druthers, what basis can you use to
say we've gone backwards over the last four years.
I'm way to tired
on a stick.
Mmmm, tastes like chicken.
When I lived in South Carolina our landlord, a fiesty old widower named
Mrs. Quick would dispatch the occasional cottonmouth with a shovel.
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squirrelly maru
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On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 22:29:59 -0700, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Apr 2, 2005, at 10:09 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote:
I don't imagine I'd give a damn about what the Catholic Church and
their pope did except for the inordinate influence they have over so
much of the developing world
is backsliding.
I was thinking mostly in terms of the last four years or so, not really on
an evolutionary time scale.
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minded and progressive to succeed him.
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William wrote:
And the shows are:-
The Shield
Deadwood
Lost
Battlestar Galactica
Veronica Mars
House
I watch very little TV other than sports, but I thought I'd give Deadwood
a try the other night.
Makes me sleepy just thinking about it...
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the speed of light?
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I noticed that the bulk of these quandries are comological in nature.
Perhaps cosmologists should shut up and calculate?
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or
innocence has not been proven in a court of law (or even in a court of
kangaroo for that matter), being deported to countries where they are
tortured?
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was a chance for the people of that
country to make gradual changes to liberalize their government, there is
now close to zero chance.
What Bush and his lackeys don't understand is that the _real_ power of
this country was never its military.
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, right? So the (actually
6.2% from the individual) amount of income taxed would be limited to the
employees regular pay? How about other forms of compensation such as
stock options?
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Dan wrote:
Our own Gautam is the recepient of a 2005 Sorros fellowship. Details
concerning this fellowship are given at
Kudos, Guatam, good job!
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Ronn! wrote:
I will get around to seeing what is on it in the next few hours, either
. . . )
So Ronn, how are the computer wars progressing?
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On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 05:07:58 -0500, JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 09:19 PM 2/18/2005 -0800, Doug wrote:
You mean, presuming that the next election installs a government that
restores the benefits?
If Congress raised the SS retirement age to 80, I'll flat out garuantee
you they'll get throw out
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 05:25:36 -0500, Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
* Doug Pensinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
So you put 12.4% of your income (to some limit), your employer matches
it and vwala! You've saved for retirement!!
Besides being wrong here about the number, the actual amount
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 18:02:14 -0500, Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
* Doug Pensinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
But you see, part of your argument is that because the money isn't
hidden away in a vault somwhere, it doesn't exist when in fact a super
majority of the people in this country
that consumption.
Thus, isn't the moral thing to do to save in proper amounts to fund one's
retirement, rather than leaving that problem to be solved by future
generations?
So you put 12.4% of your income (to some limit), your employer matches it
and vwala! You've saved for retirement!!
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French
we've been talking about.
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Julia wrote:
So you put 12.4% of your income (to some limit), your employer matches
it and vwala! You've saved for retirement!!
Actually, you're just putting in 6.2% and your employer is matching it
for a total of 12.4%
D'oh!
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JDG wrote:
Sure, the Social Security Administration has government bonds, but if
Congress were to pass a law establishing the Social Security Retirement
Age as 80, then a good portion of those bonds wouldn't be a darned
thing.
Until the next election cycle, that is.
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disk, and there is only one way to determine whether
these things exist: We must find more objects, Levison said.
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Chad wrote:
So you can mark down my vote as undecided as to whether or not its
unethical. In the bigger picture it generates wealth. Then again, so does
heroin sales.
If you can limit telemarketing with a no call list, why can't you regulate
spam?
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On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:35:21 -0500, Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In contrast with the first one, which didn'thave any action, either . .
.
I dunno why this one gets so much flak. I personally liked it.
Me too.
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, and he was fine after that. I always
assumed it was the MSG, but that was just a guess.
Then a guy with a 15' Boa Constrictor showed up...
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redirect a large comet so that it
collides with Mars.
Oh, sorry, is that on topic?
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career is toast...
I think it's possible that he was following SOP. That might not make a
difference of course.
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, and there were
many injuries but the fact that they were able to limp back to Guam on the
surface is amazing.
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Dave Land wrote:
No, for that, you need something like:
Wildfire
You're Havin' My Baby
Sometimes When We Touch
Damn near anything by Neil Diamond
Shiny Happy People by REM makes me want to hurt whatever is playing it.
Fortunately it does not have a tendency to stick in my head.
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is the word that I use to descri-i-i-i-i-i-ibe
All the feelings that I have for you Insi-i-i-i-i-i-ide
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Julia wrote:
My kids love seeing that. What they really get a kick out of is when I
have the closed captioning on to get the lyrics right and I sing
along
(We have it on CD, as well. Plus I have the original version on CD.
Remind me not to play either if Doug comes to visit
is taken?
xponent
Songs You Cannot Expel From Your Mind Maru
Gee, thank you very much -- I *liked* having Sultans of Swing haunting
my interior soundtrack, and now you've just messed it up. :P
Julia
Could have been worse, he could have mentioned Seasons in the Sun.
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Goodby Papa, it's hard
for
themselves.
That sounds like the kind of problem a clever solution could remedy. What
if _all_ qualifying assets were invested in equally?
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on Congress to undertake a
broader review of the problems of an aging nation.
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, you would dramatically increase
the amount of money the Federal Government would need to borrow.
So basicly what you're saying is that because Social Security money isn't
being used for what it is intended we have to scrap the system?
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Which is here:
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?050124fa_fact
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a privatized
system do with it?
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% of SS for retirees above a certain income level.
As far as health care costs, the health care crisis seems to ebb with
Dems in office and flood with Republicans in office. Easy solution there.
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I'd be interested in joining the chat, but I can't do it from work and the
soonest I'd be able to join in on Wednesdays is 8 PM PST. I dropped in on
one chat recently because I had the day off. Are there others besides
Trent that even might be around that late?
Doug
in
order to insure SS's solvency?
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you have highter priorities, though I'm sure you wish you had a
bit more free time for list mail. Hope things level out soon for you.
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Erik wrote:
I guess I haven't been clear (or perhaps you are confusing my position
with Bush's confusing rhetoric).
Or maybe I'm somewhat dense when it comes to this stuff. Thanks for
clarifying things for me.
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to... reaffirm the validity of the Federal Government's
obligation to the [Social Security] Trust Fund.
My view: Why wait? Expel Wayne Allard from the Senate immediately for this
gross violation of his oath of office.
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to be in better spirits as
well.
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not sure
how--it's gonna get mean. It's going to get ugly. And it's going to get
stupid. The chances that whatever the Bush administration proposes and the
Republican Congressional leadership gets behind will be good for the
country are indistinguishable from zero.
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Vilyehm wrote:
I've been there.
There are homes in the bay area?
Trees too!
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When are you leaving the area, Russel? It's a shame we didn't have lunch
while you were here.
How was your trip?
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anything about is to either ignore them completely or to just learn to
expect them and roll with them.
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you question my desire to do so?
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On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 05:46:49 -0500, Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 08:32:12PM -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote:
Are you saying that the government should not be obligated to pay what
they borrowed from Social Security?
No. I did not say that. Not even close. What the hell
the difference between now and
then.
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will be rewarded accordingly in due time. Such evil as
happens to the unjust, however, is punishment in this world (and some
theologians say they should be grateful for it, since God is merciful,
and punishments metted out in this life will be deducted from those due
in the next).
yikes.
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tax cuts), but SS will exacerbate the problem. Bad times are ahead.
Are you saying that the government should not be obligated to pay what
they borrowed from Social Security?
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to me.
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the ground beneath them.
Walid Tabtabai, a member of the Kuwaiti Parliament, said the earthquake
was a message.
We believe that what occurs in terms of disasters and afflictions is a
test for believers and punishment for the unjust, he wrote in a column in
the newspaper Al Watan.
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What
to
file
those down too.
We use dremels to cope talons and beaks at the wildlife rescue. I coped a
barn owl this morning in fact. We use the battery powered dremels that
don't really have much torque and aren't as noisy.
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Vilyehm wrote:
That's why the sides are L---oh hell, you're
the professional smart alack.
I'm thinking he's not the only one around here.
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and especially religious criteria, however,
really bothers me. The prime example is the abstinence only criteria for
much of AIDS relief in Africa.
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mentioned it about a year and a
half (2 yrs?) ago, when his experience
with Brin-L Chat led him down the path of
the startup company.
I haven't heard anything new about
it in a long while, though.
Has anyone else heard anything?
Lots. Trent gave me this url yesterday: http://www.holocenechat.com/
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Trent wrote:
So when was David Brin going to tell us about HoloceneChat?
More importantly, how long until we can use it to host the Brin-L chat
(to
help you test it of course)?
Maybe it would help to get people to show up for the chat, eh?
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