Stus-List Re: NYYC AC40, Pensacola Bay and trip from Louisiana

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

I believe Awk Craft 2000 can only be sprayed.  It is not to be brushed or 
rolled on.  Mine has 3 coats of Awk Craft clear gloss which helps protect the 
paint and the surface and is easier to buff out scratches unless they go to the 
primer then you are into repair and touching up with a spray repair touch up.

Rod 

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> On Apr 19, 2023, at 10:38 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Denis
>  
> You referred to Topsides touchup.  What paint do you use that can be touched 
> up?
>  
> Persistence had Awlgrip which eventually had many small scratches and other 
> experiences.  It was repainted over the winter using Awl Craft since Awlcraft 
> can be repaired.  We will see how that goes
>  
> Waiting on boot stripes , name and hailing port to be applied today and then 
> swim ladder
> BeforeBootStripe_1.jpg (4032×1816) (hoytsailing.com)
> BeforeBootStripe_2.jpg (4032×1816) (hoytsailing.com)
>  
>  
> Mike Hoyt
> Persistence
> Halifax, NS
> www.hoytsailing.com
>  
> From: Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> Sent: April 18, 2023 9:05 PM
> To: CnClist 
> Cc: Dennis C. 
> Subject: Stus-List NYYC AC40, Pensacola Bay and trip from Louisiana
>  
> Long weekend.  Took Touche' from its home slip in Mandeville, LA to Pensacola 
> to get bottom paint and topsides touchup.  
>  
> Friday - Mandeville to Gulfport uneventful
> Saturday - afternoon weather looked really nasty so we just moved a couple 
> hours down the coast to Biloxi.  Squall line hit us about 4 pm.  Felt like 
> 40+ knots.  Boat heeled about 5 degrees in slip.  Glad we weren't crossing 
> Mobile Bay.  Second squall line hit us about 4 am.
> Sunday - underway early to marina on ICW at Gulf Shores, AL.  66 nm in 9.5 
> hours.
> Monday - easy motor up "ditch" (ICW) to Pensacola Yacht Club.  Anchored in 
> Big Lagoon was this boat, S/V Seeker.  It's a junk rigged boat.
>  
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Le3_Ue7BxFRxDTKPVv85RLvcW6ZC7Ome/view?usp=sharing
>  
> More info can be found here:  
> https://www.svseeker.com/wp/sv-seeker-2/sailboat/
>  
> and here:
>  
> https://www.svseeker.com/wp/blog/  (Watch his video about halfway down the 
> page.  What a contrast!  A junk rig and a foiling AC40)
>  
> While crossing Pensacola Bay the New York Yacht Club's AC40 America's Cup 
> boat was practicing.  Wow!  The acceleration and speed is incredible.  They 
> were gone down the bay in a flash.  I took some video but I can't seem to get 
> it to work in Google Drive.
>  
> Hauled Touche' this morning and drove 4 hours home.
>  
> Now the question.  Why do I take Touche' 26 hours to get it painted?  Answer 
> - IMHO, the painter is way better than any in my area.
>  
> --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Re: Yanmar 2 GMF

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

If replaced should  be  good just a common problem with the symptoms you 
described.

Rod 

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> On Jun 26, 2022, at 9:50 PM, Robert Abbott  wrote:
> 
>  Rod
> 
> Mixing elbow, muffler (from small SS to larger resin) and exhaust hose were 
> all replaced a few years back.  I'd be surprised if the problem was there.
> 
> Rob
> 
> 
> 
> On 2022-06-26 2:59 p.m., Rod Stright wrote:
>> Mixing elbow can cause problems like you experienced.
>>  
>> From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List  
>> Sent: June-26-22 12:40 PM
>> To: Josh ; Stus-List 
>> Cc: Robert Abbott 
>> Subject: Stus-List Yanmar 2 GMF
>>  
>> Bottom and prop is cleanboat is launched every Spring after Winter layup.
>> 
>> Checked the throttle cable and that seems to be finemost likely a fuel 
>> issue
>> 
>> On 2022-06-26 11:44 a.m., Josh wrote:
>> Is the bottom and prop clean?
>>  
>> Jun 26, 2022 09:39:09 Robert Abbott via CnC-List :
>> 
>> 
>> Went to take the boat out Friday for a short sail .motoring out heading 
>> into a12 knt breezestarted to increase the RPM's and found the engine 
>> wouldn't rev about 2,100 RPM's marine diesel's are not supposed to be 
>> that complicated but they are to me.  I wouldn't know where to start to 
>> trouble shootgetting a mechanic to deal with it this week.  I spoke to 
>> him and told him the situation and he thinks it is a fuel problemengine 
>> not getting enough fuelmy fuel tank and fuel should be clean as I had 
>> the bottom of it replaced 2 years ago and the 2 fuel filters replaced. He 
>> thinks one or both of the filters are restricting the fuel flow.I hope 
>> he is right but I don't think so. 
>> 
>> Possibly many are causesrestricted fuel injectors, fuel pump, etc.  
>> the engine has never been serviced in the 16 years I have had the boat 
>> 
>> Any insight or guidance to help greatly appreciated. 
>> 
>> Rob Abbott 
>> AZURA 
>> C 32 - #277 
>> Halifax, N.S.
>>  
>>  
> 

Stus-List Re: Yanmar 2 GMF

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Mixing elbow can cause problems like you experienced.

 

From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List  
Sent: June-26-22 12:40 PM
To: Josh ; Stus-List 
Cc: Robert Abbott 
Subject: Stus-List Yanmar 2 GMF

 

Bottom and prop is cleanboat is launched every Spring after Winter layup.

Checked the throttle cable and that seems to be finemost likely a fuel 
issue

On 2022-06-26 11:44 a.m., Josh wrote:

Is the bottom and prop clean? 

 

Jun 26, 2022 09:39:09 Robert Abbott via CnC-List  
 :


Went to take the boat out Friday for a short sail .motoring out heading 
into a12 knt breezestarted to increase the RPM's and found the engine 
wouldn't rev about 2,100 RPM's marine diesel's are not supposed to be that 
complicated but they are to me.  I wouldn't know where to start to trouble 
shootgetting a mechanic to deal with it this week.  I spoke to him and told 
him the situation and he thinks it is a fuel problemengine not getting 
enough fuelmy fuel tank and fuel should be clean as I had the bottom of it 
replaced 2 years ago and the 2 fuel filters replaced. He thinks one or both of 
the filters are restricting the fuel flow.I hope he is right but I don't 
think so. 

Possibly many are causesrestricted fuel injectors, fuel pump, etc.  the 
engine has never been serviced in the 16 years I have had the boat 

Any insight or guidance to help greatly appreciated. 

Rob Abbott 
AZURA 
C 32 - #277 
Halifax, N.S. 

 

 

Stus-List Re: Andrew Burton

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Congratulations, well done Andy under dome trying conditions

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> On Jun 22, 2022, at 12:46 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Joel! I learned all I know sailing my Dads C 27. 
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA 02840
> 
> +401 965 5260
> https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> 
> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2022, at 12:40, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Congrats to former C Andy Burton for taking 1st in class and second in 
>> division in the Newport Bermuda race on his Baltic 47, Masquerade!  It was 
>> hardly champagne sailing against a formidable fleet!
>> 
>> -- 
>> Joel 
>> 

Stus-List Re: Chainplate Sealing.

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

3M 4200

 

From: John McCrea via CnC-List  
Sent: March-21-22 5:28 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: johnmcc...@comcast.net
Subject: Stus-List Chainplate Sealing.

 

Hello. I have a leak on my port side chainplate that needs addressing. I
pulled both chainplate cover plates and noticed that I had a stainless rod
on starboard that holds the two chainplates pieces together. One on port is
missing. Maybe that is causing excess movement and more adapt to leak? The
covers are original and thin 1/16 aluminum. I am getting them beefed up to
1/8 stainless. 

 

Looks like the PO had only sealed them with clear silicone. So that will all
be dug out. I am also inspecting the hull tabbing below with the chainplates
etc to ensure that I do not have any issues there. What is the best sealant
to use when installing the new cover plates? Thanks!

 

Regards,

 

John McCrea

Talisman

1979 36-1

Mystic, CT

Stus-List Re: Mystic Seaport Panorama Exhibit

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Impressive Chuck thanks for sharing.

 

Rod

Halifax

 

From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List  
Sent: March-08-22 4:47 PM
To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list 
Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
Subject: Stus-List Mystic Seaport Panorama Exhibit

 

FYI, Mystic Seaport in Connecticut is losing an amazing exhibit March 27th.  It 
is the pictoral story of a whaling ship travelling around the world. The story 
is told in a moving painting (this is before movies) and is truly worth the 
trip if you enjoy history of that period.

 

>From their website:

In 1848, New Bedford artists Benjamin Russell and Caleb Purrington announced to 
the world they had completed their Grand Panorama of a Whaling Voyage ‘Round 
the World. Russell was an emerging artist and bankrupt whaling investor who had 
just spent 42 months (1841-1844) on a whaling voyage to the Indian Ocean and 
North Pacific aboard the ship Kutusoff. When he returned, Purrington joined him 
in creating this massive painting as a commercial enterprise for public 
entertainment. Performed as a moving panorama, this 1,275-foot long and 8-foot 
high painting was separated onto four alternating spools, which were mounted in 
a theater or public hall for a paid performance. It toured the East, 
transported by train, ship, and wagon to Boston, New York and as far West as 
St. Louis. 

 

For more info:

https://www.mysticseaport.org/explore/exhibits/the-grand-panorama/?utm_source=wordfly
 

 _medium=email_campaign=March8%2C2022_content=Panorama_version_A 

 

Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R Annapolis

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Stus-List Re: List problems

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Came through fine no problems since you dropped the link in the footer.

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Stu via CnC-List  
Sent: March-08-22 10:44 AM
To: C Email List 
Cc: Stu 
Subject: Stus-List List problems

I guess I was wrong.  The problems started when I put the cutting board footer 
in the emails.

Now we have identified the problem -- it is not with the list but specifically 
with how some email programs and providers handle the emails.  What is 
disturbing is that one company decides what is best for you and all the other 
companies do not see a problem.

Now as an experiment, I am adding a link to the body of this message. Let's see 
how it goes through --

http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/cutting_boards

Stu
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Stus-List Re: List problems

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Second one that came through fine in Outlook.

Tod

-Original Message-
From: Matt Wolford via CnC-List  
Sent: March-07-22 10:01 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: wolf...@erie.net
Subject: Stus-List Re: List problems

Stu:

I was using Outlook on a Windows 10 machine when it started.  Today
I began using a newer version of Outlook on a Windows 11 machine.  I ran
into the same issue -- some e-mail notes come through normally, others as an
attachment.  Your note below came through fine, by the way.

Matt

-Original Message-
From: Stu via CnC-List  
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 7:23 PM
To: C Email List 
Cc: Stu 
Subject: Stus-List List problems

I have removed the footer with an external link.  There is still a footer -
just no link.

Instead of trying to identify the email servers, let's identify the mail
programs being used - both sending and receiving.

Stu

using Thunderbird mail.
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Stus-List Re: List problems

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

First message that came through fine in Outlook in several weeks, hopefully, 
problem solved>

Rod
Halifax

-Original Message-
From: Stu via CnC-List  
Sent: March-07-22 9:23 PM
To: C Email List 
Cc: Stu 
Subject: Stus-List List problems

I have removed the footer with an external link.  There is still a footer - 
just no link.

Instead of trying to identify the email servers, let's identify the mail 
programs being used - both sending and receiving.

Stu

using Thunderbird mail.
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Stus-List Re: 35-3 Bimini question

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

All emails now coming through as untitled attachments in outlook on my
desktop and full messages coming through on my Iphone as normal.

 

From: Dave S via CnC-List  
Sent: March-05-22 7:48 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dave S 
Subject: Stus-List Re: 35-3 Bimini question

 

 

Customized C Cutting Boards available at:
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Stus-List Re: C New Genoa

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Why not a 155% Genoa if you are racing?  

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> On Mar 1, 2022, at 8:48 PM, andrew--- via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Good day sailors!
> 
> I am getting a new X-Drive Endure Genoa for my 33-2. Sailmaker thought 140 
> would be best but given the predominantly light air we sail in, I was 
> thinking a larger sail.
> 
> I was wondering if anybody had experience with larger genoa’s for the 33-2. 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Customized C Cutting Boards available at:
> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/cutting_boards
Customized C Cutting Boards available at:
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Stus-List Re: Cutting Board Sale

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Site not accessible


-Original Message-
From: Stu via CnC-List  
Sent: February-21-22 9:12 AM
To: C Email List 
Cc: Stu 
Subject: Stus-List Cutting Board Sale


Don't forget -- today and today only -- free boat name and special font on
all cutting boards.

http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/cutting_boards

Stu
cnc-list@cnc-list.com   cnc-list
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Stus-List Re: Used Tuff Luff or Harken carbo foil

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Thanks John

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 22, 2021, at 10:07 AM, John Read via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Rod
>  
> A bit far away from you but a possible source is
>  
> Boat Parts | Contact Us – Quincy, MA (massmarineparts.com)
>  
> John Read
> Legacy III
> 1982 C 34
> Noank, CT
>  
> From: Rod Stright via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 5:28 AM
> To: 'Stus-List'
> Cc: Rod Stright
> Subject: Stus-List Used Tuff Luff or Harken carbo foil
>  
> Hey Folks,
>  
> Does anyone have a used racing foil they are no longer using?  Tuff Luff or 
> Harken #6 luff tape and approx.  45’ in length.
>  
> Rod Stright
> Halifax
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> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
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Stus-List Used Tuff Luff or Harken carbo foil

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Hey Folks,

 

Does anyone have a used racing foil they are no longer using?  Tuff Luff or
Harken #6 luff tape and approx.  45' in length.

 

Rod Stright

Halifax

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Stus-List Re: C 33-2 Used Spinnaker wanted

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Mine is close within a foot on height and the right width.  $400 and likely 
$100 or less to ship from Halifax.

 

From: John Read via CnC-List  
Sent: November-14-21 3:09 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: John Read 
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 33-2 Used Spinnaker wanted

 

Located Groton CT

 

On Sun, Nov 14, 2021, 2:05 PM John Read via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hi Scott

Have one for a 33-1. In very good shape. Made by Reynolds. I and J measure is 
close. Crinkly cloth. John Read 

 

On Sun, Nov 14, 2021, 9:06 AM Scott Baker via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hi all! We’ve recently acquired a 33-2 and we’d like to train the family to 
race. We need a 3/4 Oz. Chute. Anyone have a used one to sell that has some 
life left in it?
-Scott Baker
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Stus-List Source for sheaves

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

I am looking for some 2" sheaves for the end of my boom (4).  I believe the
old ones were Delrin or some sort of plastic and the sun took its tool.  I
believe someone had a very good source for sheaves on the list.

 

Rod Stright

Halifax

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Stus-List Re: Windstar

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Thanks Dave pretty well organized.

 

Regards

Rod 

2004 C 99

Equinox

Halifax

 

From: Dave S  
Sent: October-11-21 4:39 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Rod Stright ; andrew macLean 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Re: Windstar

 

Thanks - those are my pages.  

The tool is google’s blogger app.  Pretty easy to use.  I suspect the 
capability might be there to organize it better than I have.  

 

I use it as a scratch pad as well, make a post and mark it ‘under 
construction’. This way I can record dimensions, or send people there for info 
(like upholsterers).  

 

It has proven to be pretty valuable as I consider selling Windstar’s and moving 
up - buyers and brokers can see the work done in detail.  One broker may buy 
her for his own use as a result. 


I recently started another blog for a dinghy I’m restoring 

 

https://cl11ingrid.blogspot.com/?m=1

 

I have also used it to document info when getting quotes for home renovation 
work.  Send the contractors there for details, pics.

 

Dave 

Windstar 33-2 

 

 

 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 11, 2021, at 1:02 PM, andrew macLean via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:



Right here: 

 

http://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/search/label/Solar%20and%20Batteries

 

Lots of good ideas there. I bookmarked it. 





On Oct 11, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Rod Stright via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:



Just wondering if anyone has the link to I believe it was Windstar (C 33 ?)  
who had all his projects organized in albums.  Want to try and develop 
something similar.

 

Thanks

Rod Stright

Halifax

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Stus-List Windstar

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Just wondering if anyone has the link to I believe it was Windstar (C 33
?)  who had all his projects organized in albums.  Want to try and develop
something similar.

 

Thanks

Rod Stright

Halifax

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Stus-List Re: Eva faux decking

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Thanks Mike if you see Dan can you ask him or give him my email address

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> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:22 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Rod
>  
> Dan and Shelley Pryde used something similar to that in cockpit of Highlander 
> and it looks very nice.
>  
> Mike
>  
> From: Rod Stright via CnC-List  
> Sent: September 20, 2021 8:55 AM
> To: 'Stus-List' 
> Cc: Rod Stright 
> Subject: Stus-List Eva faux decking
>  
> Has anyone use the EVA teak marine decking?  If so do you recommend it and 
> are you aware of a supplier here in Canada and/or Nova Scotia?
>  
> Rod
> Halifax
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> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
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Stus-List Eva faux decking

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Has anyone use the EVA teak marine decking?  If so do you recommend it and are 
you aware of a supplier here in Canada and/or Nova Scotia?

 

Rod

Halifax 

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Stus-List Re: C 40 TRDK

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Or Night Train?

 

From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  
Sent: September-18-21 6:28 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 40 TRDK

 

Hi Graham

Is that Mischief?

Mike hoyt
Persistence
Halifax 

  _  

From: Graham Collins via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Sent: September 18, 2021 10:07:43 AM
To: C List
Cc: Graham Collins
Subject: Stus-List C 40 TRDK 

 

Hi!

Any C 40 owners on the list willing to offer opinions on this model?  
There is one local to me that might be worth a look. The good, the bad, 
hidden things to look for?

-- 
Graham Collins
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Balsa core history

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Yes that old foam is crap.  The new Coosa 
https://coosacomposites.com/the-coosa-advantage/ and equivalents do not soak up 
water and are put together under tons of pressure.

 

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List  
Sent: September-17-21 11:21 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Balsa core history

 

Typo

Water migrates slowly through end-grain balsa but really tears foam up

 

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 10:18 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Della Barba, Joe mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> >
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Balsa core history

 

Time: I doubt anyone really thought through what balsa core would be like when 
it was 50-60-70 or more years old. A lot of things can go wrong with a lot of 
materials when past the half-century mark and headed towards 100.*

Bad Builders:  Some builders, mostly NOT C, were or are infamous for doing 
things wrong and having issues with relatively new boats.

Bad Owners: One unsealed thru-hull can eventually do a lot of damage.

 

* Our club uses Boston Whalers and we go through them. They eventually get 
saturated and weak, we send them to the dumpster, and get another one. Boston 
Whaler is a top builder and builds good boats, but decades of having the crap 
beat out of them eventually does them in, especially if any hull penetrations 
are not fixed ASAP. My Whaler is 51 years old and is still dry, it has never 
been a club boat and thus not beat like a rented mule by teenaged instructors. 
Note that the foam core in Whalers is MUCH WORSE than balsa once it gets wet. 
Water migrated through end-grain balsa, but it really tear up foam. I once went 
to put a thru-hull in a foam-core Krogen 42 and I got more than 50 gallons out 
of the core draining from the hole! That boat was essentially beyond repair, so 
it essentially got restricted to sheltered waters from then on.

 

Joe

Coquina

 

 

 

From: Richard Bush via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 9:18 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: cscheaf...@comcast.net  ; Richard Bush 
mailto:bushma...@aol.com> >
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Balsa core history

 

Great info and research; so, how did balsa go from "wonder" material to;  "bad 
stuff don't touch..."? 

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Stus-List Re: Balsa core history

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Coosa is an excellent product for a core.  Expensive  it worth every penny

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> On Sep 17, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Neil Andersen via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Some of the new coring material (divinicell??) is supposed to address the 
> balsa/foam issues.
> 
> Anyone with specific knowledge??
> 
> Neil Andersen
> Rock Hall, MD 21661
> 484-354-8800
> From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 10:39:29 AM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Balsa core history
>  
> That's a great story about Pearson starting the end grain orientation.  I 
> wonder if that's 100% true.  I'll bet several others would have thought of 
> that as well.  Anyone who works with wood knows the compression strength is 
> best when wood grain is oriented that way.  Honeycomb cores are end grain 
> oriented for the same reason. 
> 
> I read an article I can't seem to find again, that compared balsa to foam as 
> coring and they determined the balsa was better; stronger bond because the 
> end grain wicks up resin, lower cost, better for the environment too, as it's 
> a renewable source.  Coosa board has better water resistance but it's so much 
> more expensive; it comes in sheets that add to shipping costs.  ContourKore 
> Balsa is a series of cut squares, attached to a scrim that can be rolled so 
> it packs into a smaller package and ships for less.  I used balsa to replace 
> wet core on my boat.  Some of the wet balsa still had a very strong hold on 
> the fiberglass, and I had to use a chisel to pry it loose and an angle 
> grinder to smooth the remnants off.  Pretty amazing stuff.
> 
> Chuck S
> 
> 
>> On 09/16/2021 6:21 PM Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> FWIW, this prompted me to take a look at the book "Heart of Glass: 
>> Fiberglass boats and the men who made them": and some info on Balsa is on 
>> p122,
>> 
>> "Balsa Core. The Baltek Corporation was the exclusive supplier to powerboat 
>> builders of balsa planks for stiffening hull sides and bottoms. When balsa 
>> was originally supplied in lengths with the grain running longitudinally, 
>> Pearson had problems with water migrating away from the point of entry at 
>> the deck hardware fasteners, causing delamination. Everett Perason recalls 
>> that "We were using pieces 3 feet long by 1/2 inch thick by 2 inches wide. 
>> We had some leaks at the fittings, which didn't make any sense. So I started 
>> stacking this stuff up and cutting it on the bandsaw and making end-grain 
>> balsa. I was doing that on Constitution Street when Alex Lippay and Bob 
>> Levine came in from Baltek. They said "What are you doing". I sadi "I got to 
>> turn this stuff the other way to stop the water from spreading. They said 
>> "Jeez, this is what we should be doing." I said "You're right". That's how 
>> Contourkore started. They took the end-grain idea and made samples that we 
>> evaluated. They came up with a method of putting scrim on it and so forth. 
>> In hindsight, I should have applied for a patent. I think we were probably 
>> one of the first to use Contourkore, as early as 1963 in a race boat hull. 
>> THe new product was brought to market in 1963 and 1964, with Pearson as one 
>> of the its first few users and most vocal supporters. Indeed, in 1981, 
>> Pearson sank a 2-square-foot basl cored panel in Narragansett Bay, attached 
>> by change to his dock. After three years he removed the panel from the water 
>> and had it analyzed. The results? No water penetrated the balso more than 4 
>> mils."
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Lisle
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 4:23 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
>>  wrote: 
>> "Balsa core" gets some bad press and I was interested in how it came into 
>> boating, especially C
>> 
>> After some research, I learned:
>> Making things with a core was first used by Egyptians three thousand years 
>> ago.  Veneers of precious wood over a core of cheaper wood extended the use 
>> of precious materials.  The practice was lost in the middle ages and 
>> re-imagined in the 1700's when furniture makers wanted to make things from 
>> scarce woods.  
>> 
>> Later in the 1920's and 30's, balsa core was being harvested in Equador by a 
>> French company trying to market it in France in the 20's and 30's.  The 
>> Jewish French owners fled the Nazi takeover and emigrated to the US.  Their 
>> balsa was later used by DeHaviland in England to build the famous Mosquito 
>> two engine bombers in 1941.  Dehavilland built over 7700 of these 400+ mph 
>> planes using two Spitfire engines each.   They used a plywood vaneer over an 
>> endgrain balsa core.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTsnMKzmdWs=613s 
>> 
>> The balsa industry lost a market after WWII but in the 70's, they convinced 
>> fiberglass boat builders to use balsa core and Hatteras sportfishing yachts 
>> were their first big client.  Almost all boat builders eventually started 
>> using balsa soon after, 

Stus-List Re: Boat Donation to Charity?

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Mass Maritime Academy

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> On Sep 11, 2021, at 2:15 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Listers,
> 
> Any suggestions on a good charity to donate a boat to? Preferably one that 
> will actually use the boat instead of selling it for charity funds (Fair 
> market value deduction)
> 
> It looks like things are moving forward with the next Enterprise and I’d like 
> to avoid paying two insurance and slip bills. 
> 
> (Meaning: Yes, I will sell this boat for dirt cheap at this point. Bring 
> offers!)
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Stus-List C 35 Mk 3 spinnaker for sale

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

One C 35 mk 3 North symmetrical spinnaker for sale in excellent condition.
Email me for additional information and pictures if interested.  Also flies
well as an A kite and could also be recut as an asymmetrical.

 

Rod 

Halifax

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Stus-List Re: C 121 sail track access

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Almost all of the deck fittings on the C 99 are tapped into aluminum backing 
plates that are embedded into the epoxy deck.

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> On Aug 13, 2021, at 7:42 AM, Bob Tallman via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Good morning all,
> 
> This is my third C and still excited to sail her each time.
> Looking at my usual maintenance, rebed blocks, bases, sail tracks…..  well 
> something is a miss.  My 121 is a 2000, actually the first run, a 121 Express.
> 
> Scanning my cabin top i notice there are no plugs, thus no access to the 
> backing of my winches, sail tracks etc….
> All of my other boats had the access holes with the plugs.
> Can someone guide me on if i am missing the magic door or secret code to make 
> them appear?  Yes, subtle craziness at 5:30am on a friday.  
> 
> Head scratcher for me.
> Had the funny thought that maybe the sail track backing plate is actually 
> tapped stainless…. But cant confirm since i cant get access to see it….
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Bob Tallman
> Blue Star 2000 C 121
> 
>  
> From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 10:40 PM
> To: Stus-List
> Cc: Edd Schillay
> Subject: Stus-List Re: 37+ Cockpit Shower
>  
> Rocky,
> 
> Should be on the starboard side in the cockpit. The “backside” of it is 
> inside the locker where your fuel fill is. 
> 
> All the best, 
> 
> Edd
> 
> ———-
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
> C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
> ———-
> 914.774.9767   | Mobile
> ———-
> Sent via iPhone 11 Pro
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> 
> 
> On Aug 11, 2021, at 10:25 PM, rockland bazemore via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> You guys have a cockpit shower?! where the hell is it? 
> I bet it's where my Autopilot head is on the port side? Heading to Bahamas 
> next year would be nice to rinse.
> thanks!
> 
> 
> Rockland Bazemore
> S/V Blue Pearl
> C 37/40+
> Port Washington, NY
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Stus-List Best spot to get Tee shirts

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Where Is the source to get quality Tee shirts (long and short) custom made
for C Yachts in Canada and the US?

 

Rod Stright



President

C 99 Class Association

Halifax

Nova Scotia

 

Rod

Halifax 

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Stus-List Re: Lewmar Small hatch handle

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Thanks Charlie that's what I used the first time snd the second time I used 
6-10 epoxy and sanded the surfaces and cleaned them before gluing and clamping 
them for several days.

Makes me wonder if I should use GE Plexus again!

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> On Jul 22, 2021, at 8:20 PM, cenelson  wrote:
> 
>  I have used the Plexus (I think) that Lewmar recommended on two different 
> small hatches on my 1995 C 
> 
> One I think I did twice in 25+ years, the other is still holding. 
> 
> Given the stress that can be put on the handle/portlight plastic ‘joint’, I 
> was amazed that it held at all—certainly would not want to get that Plexus on 
> my fingers!
> 
> BTW, of the 3 ‘failures’, 2 were the result of crew stepping on the plastic 
> while the hatch was held in the ‘cracked open’ position or open but with the 
> handle turned..
> 
> One thing I did not do was to try to clean-up the old ‘glue’ since some was 
> left on both surfaces and removing it would have been a PITA. I otherwise 
> followed the directions and used a C-clamp to squeeze the handle to the 
> plexiglass during the curing process.
>  
> YMMV,
> 
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
> 1995 C XL/kcb 
> 
> 
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
> 
> On Thursday, July 22, 2021, 6:08 PM, Rod Stright via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Anyone have experience with securing the handle on the small hatch handle.  
> The handle in this case is glued to the hatch and is not through bolted like 
> the bigger hatches.  The newer version has a bolt through handle so I assume 
> they have lost of issues with the handles falling off.  I have used two types 
> of epoxies recommended by Lewmar and neither has worked.
> 
>  
> 
> Rod
> 
> Halifax
> 
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Stus-List Lewmar Small hatch handle

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Anyone have experience with securing the handle on the small hatch handle.
The handle in this case is glued to the hatch and is not through bolted like
the bigger hatches.  The newer version has a bolt through handle so I assume
they have lost of issues with the handles falling off.  I have used two
types of epoxies recommended by Lewmar and neither has worked.

 

Rod

Halifax

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Stus-List Re: solar fans

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Any problem cutting holes in the plexiglass/Lexan or were they fibreglass 
hatches?

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> On Jul 1, 2021, at 8:37 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have one fan in the forward hatch, one in the head, one over the galley and 
> one over the opposite side of the cabin top.  The PO had one in the forward 
> hatch and the others I cut holes and installed.
>> On 07/01/2021 6:24 PM David Swensen via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>>  
>>  
>> Chuck,
>> What is the placement of your solar fans?
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 5:42 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List < 
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> FWIW, I think solar fans make more sense than opening ports. Opening ports 
>> are nice to have but when the breeze stops, the air stops moving.  Rain and 
>> spray can enter an opening port easily while the new model solar fans 
>> protect from rain and they will work automatically when the boat is closed 
>> up and keep it smelling fresh.
>>  
>> I have four solar fans on my 35 footer.  Some solar fans like my Nicro fans 
>> have a rechargable battery and run all night.  My Nicro fans have an On/Off 
>> switch and a damper to close in rough weather.  I couldn't find them 
>> anywhere so they may be out of business.  I have two off-brand chinese model 
>> fans that don't have batteries and only run when it's sunny.  I had Marinco 
>> fans but they stick up three inches above the deck and caught the sheets too 
>> often.  The cheaper chinese fans work better for my purposes as they stick 
>> up only 1 inch and lines roll right over them.
>>  
>> Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1990 C 34R 
>>  
>>  
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Stus-List Re: solar fans

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Hey Chuck,

 

Are the ones you have on this list 
https://www.google.com/search?q=deck+mounted+solar+fans+for+sailboats 

 
=1C1VFKB_enCA608CA608=ALeKk001RKVy0bM76dEiwGYzbo26x3rNuQ:1625179109828=lnms=isch=X=2ahUKEwi--qX898LxAhWjEVkFHQaDCK0Q_AUoAnoECAEQBA=1522=738

 

Rod

 

From: David Swensen via CnC-List  
Sent: July-01-21 7:25 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: petemcm...@gmail.com; CHARLES SCHEAFFER ; David 
Swensen 
Subject: Stus-List Re: solar fans

 

Chuck,

What is the placement of your solar fans?

 

On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 5:42 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

FWIW, I think solar fans make more sense than opening ports. Opening ports are 
nice to have but when the breeze stops, the air stops moving.  Rain and spray 
can enter an opening port easily while the new model solar fans protect from 
rain and they will work automatically when the boat is closed up and keep it 
smelling fresh. 

  

I have four solar fans on my 35 footer.  Some solar fans like my Nicro fans 
have a rechargable battery and run all night.  My Nicro fans have an On/Off 
switch and a damper to close in rough weather.  I couldn't find them anywhere 
so they may be out of business.  I have two off-brand chinese model fans that 
don't have batteries and only run when it's sunny.  I had Marinco fans but they 
stick up three inches above the deck and caught the sheets too often.  The 
cheaper chinese fans work better for my purposes as they stick up only 1 inch 
and lines roll right over them.

  

Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1990 C 34R  

  

  

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Stus-List Wanted 135% genoa

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Looking for a good used 135-140% genoa.  Approximate dimensions Luff 43'6"
to 44' 8", Leech 42 - 43'  Foot approx. 19'.  Foretriangle dimensions I 46',
J 13' Luff tape Harken #6.  Close to C 33 Mk 2.  Can be dacron or laminate
with or without sun cover.  PM me at strig...@eastlink.ca

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Stus-List Re: Gelcoat colour matching

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

I have a 2004 C 99 which has a vacuum bagged epoxy hull.  The finish is a 
polyester gel coat.  Here is a quote from Tim Jackett the designer from Tartan 
Yachts who built the boat “The gelcoat is NPG Isothalic, which is a polyester 
product.” So obviously it can be done with the proper preparation.  The finish 
sill looks like new.

 

Rod Stright

Sail Safe,

 

Rod Stright



President

C 99 Class Association

Halifax

Nova Scotia

 

 

From: dwight veinot via CnC-List  
Sent: May-23-21 4:32 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: dwight veinot 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Gelcoat colour matching

 

Are you totally sure about that

 

On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 12:55 PM Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Be advised, Gel coat is Polyester based and will not adhere to epoxy, but epoxy 
will adhere to polyester and or vinyl ester based fiberglass. Gel coat will 
also work with vinyl ester based fiberglass. 

 

Doug

 

On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 8:17 AM Graham Collins via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hi Adam

Burnside Fiberglass loaned me the color cards to compare to my gelcoat, for 
best results you might want to ask them if they still do that.  I can tell you 
what my can of gelcoat is marked (or you could try some if you want, it isn't 
like I'll use it all...).  I'm at AYC, where are you located?

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2021-05-23 10:23 a.m., Adam Hayden via CnC-List wrote:

Hello

 

I am sure this has been asked before.  Has anyone produced the colour charts 
for gelcoat repair?  I replaced a number of stanchion bases and now have some 
holes to repair. (I have the epoxy etc just looking for the final topcoat to 
match the rest of the deck)

Our decks are that slightly off-white light beige colour.

 

I am in Nova Scotia so may try Burnside Fibreglass.

 

Thanks

 

Adam

C 36

State of Bliss

 

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Stus-List Re: FW: 2021 racing

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Thanks Chuck great to hear.  They are great boats in almost all wind conditions.

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> On May 6, 2021, at 5:40 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes.  He's a pretty cool, laid back guy.  We raced spinnaker with three 
> adults, myself on mainsail, his son did foredeck and genoa trim, and Dave 
> steered.  Eight to ten knots of breeze that tapered off at the end.  He 
> nailed the start and we had two downwind legs with the spinnaker, so we were 
> quite busy.  Ben had his two kids aboard and they stayed safe and out of the 
> way and brought us luck.  No hollering, no fussing or cussing.  Very fun.  We 
> took second place.  I'm still learning how to get more out of the main and 
> learn what his boat likes.
>  
> Chuck  S
>  
>  
> On 05/06/2021 3:26 PM Rod Stright via CnC-List  wrote:
>  
>  
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Rod Stright  
> Sent: May-06-21 4:26 PM
> To: 'Stus-List' 
> Subject: RE: Stus-List 2021 racing
> 
>  
> 
> Hey Chuck was that Oasis (Hull #77), new owner David Copley, by any chance?
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Safe Sailing,
> 
>  
> 
> Rod Stright
> 
> 
> 
> President
> 
> C 99 Class Association
> 
> Halifax
> 
> Nova Scotia
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List  
> Sent: May-06-21 2:09 PM
> To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list 
> Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
> Subject: Stus-List 2021 racing
> 
>  
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> FWIW, Chesapeake Bay racing has started.  I crewed on a C 99 for a 
> Wednesday Nite race on the Patapsco River, actually Rock Creek Sailing 
> Association, near Baltimore.  And Annapolis has started their series.  Here's 
> a brief video worth watching.
> 
>  
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLXc-mg53Wo
> 
>  
> 
> Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R
> 
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Stus-List FW: 2021 racing

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

 

 

From: Rod Stright  
Sent: May-06-21 4:26 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Subject: RE: Stus-List 2021 racing

 

Hey Chuck was that Oasis (Hull #77), new owner David Copley, by any chance?

 

 

Safe Sailing,

 

Rod Stright



President

C 99 Class Association

Halifax

Nova Scotia

 

 

 

From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: May-06-21 2:09 PM
To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net> >
Subject: Stus-List 2021 racing

 

Hey guys, 

FWIW, Chesapeake Bay racing has started.  I crewed on a C 99 for a Wednesday 
Nite race on the Patapsco River, actually Rock Creek Sailing Association, near 
Baltimore.  And Annapolis has started their series.  Here's a brief video worth 
watching. 

  

  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLXc-mg53Wo 

  

Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R 

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Stus-List Re: Alternate to Spartite

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Thanks Paul that looks like it would work

 

From: s/v Johanna Rose via CnC-List  
Sent: April-26-21 10:16 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: dre...@gmail.com
Subject: Stus-List Re: Alternate to Spartite

 

Rod,

I have a copy of Wally’s Stella Blue page where he uses a Spartite alternative 
purchased from McMaster-Carr (part number 8644K18). 

Paul E

 

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Stus-List Re: Removing lettering

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

I believe lacquer thinner will remove the residue from the numbers. Best to 
check with the sailmaker but I have done it before and then rinsed it with 
fresh water afterwards.

 

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List  
Sent: April-22-21 1:59 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Removing lettering

 

Wow! Yes!

 

I got a spinnaker from a sisterboat and had to remove its old numbers and put 
on mine.  Sailmaker said remove the old numbers, put on the new numbers then 
LIBERALLY sprinkle talc on the adhesive residue.  Well, I did steps 1 and 2 but 
didn't have any talc.  First time we launched the chute, it didn't fully open 
immediately because some of it stuck to the residue.  Needless to say, I 
quickly bought talc and covered the residue with it.  Works fine now.

 

  -- 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 11:16 AM Steve Thomas via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

Wish they had something like that for removing sail numbers. 

 

Steve Thomas

C MKIII

C MKI

 

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Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

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Stus-List Alternate to Spartite

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Did someone have a similar product to use instead of Spartite?

 

Rod

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Stus-List Re: Hello?

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A lot are still showing up as junk

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 4, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yep just quiet 
> 
>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2021, 08:01 WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>>  So, I haven't gotten any emails for a couple days.  None in spam or trash.  
>> Is it just quiet?
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Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Agree, there  are enough emails already with out getting into powerboats

 

From: Richard Bush via CnC-List  
Sent: March-31-21 2:53 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: jlam...@outlook.com; Richard Bush 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats

 

I would suggest that when the topic becomes "best powerboats" it is 
appropriately for another forum; 

 

Richard

s/v Bushmark4: 1085 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596; 

Richard N. Bush Law Offices 

2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 

Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 

502-584-7255

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Jeffrey A. Laman mailto:jlam...@outlook.com> >
Sent: Wed, Mar 31, 2021 12:14 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats

Of course! But maybe it can be agreed that side conversations that might not be 
of broad interest to the community be conducted on the side. All I am saying.

Get Outlook for Android  

 

  _  

From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 11:27:25 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com   
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Danny Haughey mailto:djhaug...@juno.com> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats 

 

It's a community list of C enthusiasts that sometime have side conversations. 
 I hope Edd stays a part of the community even after he moves to a different 
type of vessel.  

 

Edd, I may be moving to your area, in a few years, if all goes well!  

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From: "Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: "Jeffrey A. Laman" mailto:jlam...@outlook.com> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 14:08:26 +

Thought this was a C sailboat list?

 

Jeff Laman

1981 C Harmony

Ludington, MI

 

 

  _  

From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:04 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Edd Schillay mailto:e...@schillay.com> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats 

 

Joe, 

 

Thanks. We’ve looked at quite a few boats over the past few months and there 
were several that we didn’t like, whether it’s the style, layout, number of 
levels, engines, etc. I’m not ruling out gas engines, but would prefer diesels 
purely from a maintenance and safety level. 

 

Right now, a Sea Ray 400 Sedan with Caterpillar 3126’s has really caught my 
eye. Also interested in the Carver 36 Mariner, the Regal Commodore 4080 and the 
Meridian 341 (though I have yet to actually get on board one — may be too 
small.)

 

Primarily, we are looking for a 16-knot+ cruiser that we could use for a day 
trip to a gulf-coast island or for a week or two cruising to the Keys or even 
the Bahamas. 

 

I’m well aware that, especially as a life-long C owner, that there will be 
compromises and disappointments, but I’m looking to transition into a 
less-active form of boating where the only winch on board is electric and it 
drops the anchor. 

 

Now that we are here in Florida for good, we can’t wait to explore strange new 
worlds, seek out new life and new civilizations…. And, our Prime Directive will 
not change — Wherever We Go, We Go Boldly — I just want to be at a speed that I 
won’t need to take extra time off. 


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Captain of the Starship Enterprise

C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

 





















 

 





 

On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

I would agree with that. The Carver/Regal/Sea Ray lineup probably would not 
meet expectations if you had a C for very long.
I worked on all of them and delivered some back in the day and unless they got 
a LOT better than they used to be, I can't see a C being happy with them.
Also do not be fooled by "diesel". Sailors tend to extrapolate "lasts forever" 
and "sips fuel" to diesel powerboats and neither one of those things 
necessarily apply. Many boosted high output diesels have short lifespans and 
"economical" is in comparison to a pair of big block V8s. I worked on a SeaRay 
55 and I had to run her hard to do some autopilot calibrations. I think I was 
going through 100 gallons an hour! Also the layout and décor seemed ideal for 
bachelor parties - cruising not so much.
Heck - even the slow Grand Banks trawlers use a LOT of fuel compared to any 
sailboat without going much faster.

Joe
Coquina

-Original Message-
From: Dennis C. via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:39 PM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Dennis C. mailto:capt...@gmail.com> >
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: 40 or 41?

Look at the Sabre Salons.  

Dennis C. 

On Mar 29, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 

Stus-List Re: 40 or 41?

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

C 41 much nicer lines and performance.  Took mine to the Caribbean and back 
from Halifax, very capable in sever sea and wind conditions up to 70 knots.

 

From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List  
Sent: March-29-21 12:49 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com
Subject: Stus-List 40 or 41?

 

Is there any clear advantage to the 41 over the 40 or vice versa?

Thanks!

 

Joe

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Stus-List Re: Now stink boaters anonymous

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

No wonder it is all winding up in Spam or Junk mail.

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Sent: March-19-21 3:10 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: JP Mail 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Now stink boaters anonymous

Everyone’s coming out of the hanging locker I guess. 
1979 Chaparral 20’ 1986 merc 115 tower of power. But I have a sticker on it 
that says “I’d rather be sailing”. 
Jon Pratt 
35-3
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Stus-List Re: C 40

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Thanks Ron

 

From: Ron Casciato via CnC-List  
Sent: March-18-21 1:15 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Ron Casciato 
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 40

 

HI Rod¨ There is a Flex-O-Fold specified for whatever Yanmar Sail drive
there is, I assume that they also cover Volvo.  I dealt with their rep in
Marblehead Mass.  Their current ad says that they fit all saildrive models.
The price seems to fall between $1295 - $1695 depending on diameter …….13”
to 18”..

 

Ron C.

 

From: Rod Stright via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 12:02 PM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Rod Stright mailto:strig...@eastlink.ca> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 40

 

I Have a C 99 with the standard Volvo Penta saildrive.  Curious about the
Flex-O-Fold.  I had a max prop on my last boat and loved it.  Was the
Flex-O-Fold a direct fit for the sail drive and what was the approx. cost?

 

Thanks Rod 

 

From: Ron Casciato via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: March-18-21 12:32 PM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Ron Casciato mailto:rjcasci...@comcast.net> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 40

 

Good Morning Joe:  a suggestion while you are compiling a list of costs and
differences.  Please include the estimate for replacement of the engine with
a Yanmar Saildrive.  I did that on my 38MKII almost 15 years ago on the
recommendation of Rob Ball, and it has worked flawlessly and needs much less
in service.  I used the Yanmar 3YM30 with the SD20 Saildrive, and it comes
with the mounting sled that you just glass into the bottom of the boat.  The
sail drive works like an outboard, and other than regularly changing out the
engine oil, that lower unit gets changed every few years.  I installed a
Flex-O-Fold 2 blade prop and this boat not only goes faster than the old
Volvo with the 2 blade  Martec  but it backs down almost dead straight.  The
bonus is that the Yanmar weighs almost 100lbs less than the Volvo did. 

 

My installation was just short of 10K, and there’s no more shaft, shaft
seal, etc.   

Just a thought before you commit to either one.

 

Best,

 

Ron C.

Impromptu C 38MKIIC

Mass.

 

 

From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 10:59 AM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com <mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> 
Subject: Stus-List C 40

 

Would buying a C 40 with an original engine be a good idea in 2021? 

We are running some numbers here and it is basically a choice between
upgrading and replacing. Coquina is 48 years old now and it is time to do
some $$$ upgrades or buy another boat with much of the work done. We found a
used C 40 that looks gorgeous below, the interior beats most used boats of
that era. She seems in good shape, but the engine is original with 3,000+
hours. An Atomic 4 per the manual should be rebuilt at 3,000 hours if FWC, a
raw water cooled version would be very lucky to get that far in salt water.
The Yanmar is FWC. I frequently hear that diesels can last 10,000 hours, but
then again a significant number of boats from that era are for sale with new
engines.

Also re the rod rigging – the mast is out for the winter. With the rigging
easily accessed, what would the cost be of a rigging inspection to assure
that the rod is still good.

Thanks!

 

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

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Stus-List Re: C 40

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

I Have a C 99 with the standard Volvo Penta saildrive.  Curious about the
Flex-O-Fold.  I had a max prop on my last boat and loved it.  Was the
Flex-O-Fold a direct fit for the sail drive and what was the approx. cost?

 

Thanks Rod 

 

From: Ron Casciato via CnC-List  
Sent: March-18-21 12:32 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Ron Casciato 
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 40

 

Good Morning Joe:  a suggestion while you are compiling a list of costs and
differences.  Please include the estimate for replacement of the engine with
a Yanmar Saildrive.  I did that on my 38MKII almost 15 years ago on the
recommendation of Rob Ball, and it has worked flawlessly and needs much less
in service.  I used the Yanmar 3YM30 with the SD20 Saildrive, and it comes
with the mounting sled that you just glass into the bottom of the boat.  The
sail drive works like an outboard, and other than regularly changing out the
engine oil, that lower unit gets changed every few years.  I installed a
Flex-O-Fold 2 blade prop and this boat not only goes faster than the old
Volvo with the 2 blade  Martec  but it backs down almost dead straight.  The
bonus is that the Yanmar weighs almost 100lbs less than the Volvo did. 

 

My installation was just short of 10K, and there's no more shaft, shaft
seal, etc.   

Just a thought before you commit to either one.

 

Best,

 

Ron C.

Impromptu C 38MKIIC

Mass.

 

 

From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 10:59 AM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com  
Subject: Stus-List C 40

 

Would buying a C 40 with an original engine be a good idea in 2021? 

We are running some numbers here and it is basically a choice between
upgrading and replacing. Coquina is 48 years old now and it is time to do
some $$$ upgrades or buy another boat with much of the work done. We found a
used C 40 that looks gorgeous below, the interior beats most used boats of
that era. She seems in good shape, but the engine is original with 3,000+
hours. An Atomic 4 per the manual should be rebuilt at 3,000 hours if FWC, a
raw water cooled version would be very lucky to get that far in salt water.
The Yanmar is FWC. I frequently hear that diesels can last 10,000 hours, but
then again a significant number of boats from that era are for sale with new
engines.

Also re the rod rigging - the mast is out for the winter. With the rigging
easily accessed, what would the cost be of a rigging inspection to assure
that the rod is still good.

Thanks!

 

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

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Stus-List Re: Precision Sails - sailmakers in Canada

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Yes and very good cruising sails

 

From: Glen Eddie via CnC-List  
Sent: March-16-21 11:21 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Hoyt, Mike ; Glen Eddie 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Precision Sails - sailmakers in Canada

 

Does Stevens still do the sails for the Blue Nose?

 

 

 



Glen Eddie


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Sent: March-16-21 10:07 AM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Hoyt, Mike mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: Precision Sails - sailmakers in Canada

 

North, Doyle and Michelle Stevens lofts still build sails locally in Nova 
Scotia.  There may be a couple of others as well in business (maybe a UK loft 
near Lunenburg and one other?)

 

The big question though is do sails have to self isolate for 14 days if 
travelling from Ontario to Nova Scotia?

 

Mike

Persistence

Halifax

 

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: March 16, 2021 10:59 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Della Barba, Joe mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: Precision Sails

 

Google-Fu shows three sailmakers in Toronto and three more in Victoria. There 
does appear to still be sailmakers in Canada. If you mean literally making 
sails from scratch, maybe not, but they still would repair sails I would hope.

Joe

Coquina

 

Ps – anyone remember Haarstick sails? I still have some of their sails, back in 
the day we really liked them and the furling genoa they made for us was great. 
That thing was the equivalent of a car with 300,000 miles on it when it finally 
went to the great sail loft in the sky.

 

From: Bill 

 

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Stus-List Re: midship cleats on aluminum rail?

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

We have the Wichard ones (three on each side) fitted for snatch and spinnaker 
blocks and the one fitted amidships works very well for the spinnaker guy 
blocks and also for securing dock lines when back alongside.

 

Safe Sailing,

 

Rod Stright



President

C 99 Class Association

Halifax

Nova Scotia

 

 

 

From: Dave S via CnC-List  
Sent: March-10-21 8:03 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: petemcm...@gmail.com; Dave S 
Subject: Stus-List Re: midship cleats on aluminum rail?

 

Similar quest here - The Johnson toerail cleat seems to be the go-to and is 
reported to work well in several past conversations on this list.  

 

https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?id=80333

 

Have been intending to try but have hesitated simply because of cosmetics, esp 
for the price here in Canada.   Perhaps it looks more in person.  Perhaps I 
should just get it done.  (Lol).  Have also been contemplating fabricating 
something.

 

Related - Wichard has a toerail padeye - quite elegant but spendy.  

 

https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?id=125394

 

 

Dave - 33-2

 

http://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/?m=1

 

 

 

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On Mar 10, 2021, at 2:27 AM, Peter McMinn via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:



A question for those of us with aluminum toe rails. I’d like to find a solution 
for midship cleating for docking/departing and springline placement. I’m 
currently securing a line around a stanchion mount, which seems strong, but I’d 
like to find a cleat that mounts to the toe rail. Haven’t seen anything in the 
catalogs. I’m thinking a carabiner or even a soft shackle through a rail hole 
might be a good fix. Given the general opinion that midship cleating is handy, 
I’m curious what you use.

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Stus-List FW: Re: FW: Re: Interior 'walls'

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

 

Sent back in Feb.  Pic wouldn’t go through too big.  I hate using house 
terminology on boats.  Deckhead is the structure overhead ceiling is as 
described below. 

From: Rod Stright  
Sent: February-01-21 6:26 AM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: 'cenel...@aol.com' 
Subject: RE: Stus-List Re: FW: Re: Interior 'walls'

 

Thanks Charlie,

 

The only boat I had with a wooden ceiling in it was a Frers 33.  It had narrow 
strips with beveled edges held in by stainless steel screws which allowed you 
to take them out and refinish if required.

 

 

Rod

From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: January-31-21 11:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: cenel...@aol.com <mailto:cenel...@aol.com> 
Subject: Stus-List Re: FW: Re: Interior 'walls'

 

Thanks Rod--you obviously know your nautical terms, as do some others on this 
list. Now a few more listers, including myself, know what to call this 
'planking'. 

 

With that out of the way, back to draining the swamp!  To wit:  some of this  
'ceiling'  in my V berth on my 1995 C 36 XL/kcb has been destroyed by a water 
leak at my forward port hull deck joint leak--since repaired.

 

What I am trying to find is a source of the ceiling to match my original, which 
looks to be either ~1/4" teak or plywood with V-grooves routed in on a 1 7/8" 
centers. The grooves run longitudinally and I need a piece about 12 inches high 
and 24 inches long with the grooves running along the 24" direction.  As far as 
I can tell without cutting out a piece, this ceiling is screwed into stringers 
(behind the 'ceiling') that appear to run longitudinally at the top and bottom 
of the ceiling, which on my boat runs under the V-berth cubby storage cabinets 
down to the fiberglass beneath the V-berth cushion. The screws are covered by 
bungs. I don't know if C manufactured this ceiling material in house or had a 
source for it. I do think a lot of their boats had this 'ceiling' on the inside 
of their hulls.

 

I would appreciate any leads on where I might find some of this 'ceiling' with 
the grooves already cut. 

 

Alternatively, I may have to take a replacement piece of wood to a local 
woodshed and have grooves routed in it or buy a router and some appropriate 
wood and have at it myself.

 

Thanks in advance for any further help--as well as your terminology lesson!

 

Charlie Nelson

1995 C 36 XL/kcb

Water Phantom

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From: Rod Stright via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Rod Stright mailto:strig...@eastlink.ca> >
Sent: Sun, Jan 31, 2021 9:30 pm
Subject: Stus-List FW: Re: Interior 'walls'

Hi fellow C 99 owners,

On the inside of the hull the covering applied is properly called a ceiling. I 
am from a family of wooden boatbuilders and we don’t like to use terminology 
associated with houses on boats but ceiling is defined below from the Glossary 
of Nautical terms.

ceiling

Planking attached to the inside of the  
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_nautical_terms#frame> frames or  
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_nautical_terms#floor> floors of a 
wooden hull, usually to separate the cargo from the hull planking itself. The 
ceiling has different names in different places:  
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_nautical_terms#limber_boards> limber 
boards,  <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_nautical_terms#spirketting> 
spirketting,  
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_nautical_terms#quickwork> quickwork. 
The lower part of the ceiling is, confusingly to a landsman, what you are 
standing on at the bottom of the hold of a wooden ship

On pleasure boats example Image https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/82612974387656165/

 

Tried to include some pictures but they wouldn’t go through on this website.

 

Rod Stright

C 99

Halifax, NS

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Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Any idea what it was called?

 

From: John McCrea via CnC-List  
Sent: February-26-21 10:32 AM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: John McCrea 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

 

Jamestown Marine in RI has a one-part topside paint that a club member used and 
it came out really nice. They have online tutorials for application. You would 
never know it was rolled and tipped. Good luck. 

 

From: Rick Brass via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 11:09 PM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Rick Brass mailto:rickbr...@earthlink.net> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

 

I had Imzadi painted with Alexseal paint about 5 years ago, on the 
recommendation of the guys who were doing the painting. It seems to be an 
equivalent to Awlgrip in shine and (at least on their experience using it) 
durability, at about half the cost of Awlgrip. They also said it is a bit 
easier to apply. It still cost me about $125 a foot to get the boat painted.

 

I rolled and tipped a Tanzer about 12 years ago using Rustoleum marine enamel. 
Practical Sailor did paint test/comparison, and recommended Valspar industrial 
enamel over Brightside as the best one part paint. I seem to recall that, 
besides being less expensive, you can tint the Valspar to achieve a custom 
color. Rustoleum was the Practical Sailor best buy. $11 a quart vs. $40+, and 
just as shiny. The Tanzer still looks good, except for some scratches. It was 
the first boat I ever rolled and tipped, and that was pretty easy on a small 
hull. Much easier than spraying.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 10:15 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Della Barba, Joe mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

 

If you are paying someone to paint your boat, it will be expensive even with 
latex house paint. Don’t pay a pro big $$$ to spray on crappy paint.

There are cheaper marine paints around. Isn’t AlexSeal a lower price boat 
paint? Rustoleum makes lower cost boat paint as well.

* I think some work boats actually do get painted with exterior house paint, 
they know the boats will get beat on and thus not worth a yacht level finish.

 

My Imron paint was done in 1987 and looks decent where the boat hasn’t got 
scratched up (hit and run in Annapolis)

 

 

Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35  MK I

www.dellabarba.com  

 

 

 

 

 

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Stus-List Re: North Asym for sale

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Where is it located?

Sent from my iPhone

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>  wrote:
> 
> 
> For Sale:  North Red/White/Blue Asym spin with turtle. 
> Leach= 46’   Luff= 49’   Foot= 24’7”
> Fair condition, $200+shipping
>  
>  
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Stus-List Re: New sails, new wind

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

That should have read PHRF NC rules

 

From: Rod Stright via CnC-List  
Sent: February-09-21 12:01 PM
To: cenel...@aol.com
Cc: 'Stus-List' ; Rod Stright 
Subject: Stus-List Re: New sails, new wind

 

>From PHRF NS Handicap Racing Fleet Rules section 3

 

“HANDICAP ADJUSTMENTS A. HEADSAILS Adjustment is based on the largest jib or 
genoa and determined by the LP/J ratio stated as a percent. No adjustment is 
made for the largest headsail having an LP/J greater than 135% and less than or 
equal to 155%. If the largest headsail has an LP/J of 111% to 135% a credit of 
3 (three) seconds per mile will given

 

Rod

 

From: cenel...@aol.com <mailto:cenel...@aol.com>  mailto:cenel...@aol.com> > 
Sent: February-09-21 11:07 AM
To: strig...@eastlink.ca <mailto:strig...@eastlink.ca> 
Subject: Re: Stus-List New sails, new wind

 

Unfortunately no--NC-PHRF assumes that anyone with a rating will fly up to a 
155% genoa and a proper sized kite. They give a credit for the roller furling 
(3 sec/mile) but not for smaller headsails and you get one rating whether you 
go non-spin or spin. 

 

Charlie

-Original Message-
From: Rod Stright mailto:strig...@eastlink.ca> >
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: cenel...@aol.com <mailto:cenel...@aol.com> 
Sent: Tue, Feb 9, 2021 4:30 am
Subject: RE: Stus-List New sails, new wind

Would you get a PHRF adjustment credit by moving to a 135% Roller Furling 
headsail?

 

Rod Stright

Halifax

 

From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: February-09-21 12:23 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: cenel...@aol.com <mailto:cenel...@aol.com> 
Subject: Stus-List New sails, new wind

 

Hello all listers.  

 

I have a hypothetical for the racers among you. 

 

I need to replace my 3DL headsail--its mostly patches after ~ 5 years of club 
racing locally. This is about my 3rd laminate style headsail---and my last!

 

I am probably going with the North 3D Nordac which has replaced the former 3DL 
technology with what they call a composite sail--not laminated but still built 
over a 3D mold of the sail shape desired--if I understand this correctly. I do 
not need the super light and costly Raw or Endurance.

 

Anyhow, I plan to move to a new sailing area off Southport, NC near Bald Head 
Island at the mouth of the Cape Fear River--basically on the NC coast.

 

All my club racing to date has been in the Pamlico and Neuse Rivers, 
occasionally racing to Ocracoke across the Pamlico Sound. For these areas, a 
155% headsail is the largest you can race with locally without penalty and so 
that is what I have always used. 

 

The North sail maker suggested because of the higher coastal winds that I may 
not need a 155% since the wind strength is higher at the coast. OTOH, a racer 
there uses a 155% headsail and says he does well with it. 

 

I checked the historical average wind speed for Southport and New Bern and the 
coastal winds are from 20-25% higher than at New Bern. 

For instance, the avg. wind speed varies from 5.5-8.1 knots in New Bern vs. 
about 7-10 knots in Southport, or about 25% higher on average.

 

Further, I know from experience that my masthead rig becomes seriously 
overpowered once the wind gets greater than about 12 knots true, when its time 
to reef the main(I only have 1 reef point) and if it goes above ~ 15 knots, I 
need to roll the headsail a few turns (or change down to a 135% or 90% 
headsail).

 

I am not inclined to go less than the 155% allowed locally (PHRF) but maybe I 
should--the local North guy suggested ~ 140%. This might better match the local 
wind and is less expensive since less material is used. OTOH, I don't want to 
be under canvassed on the light air days. 

 

Further, there is the question of sail material weight to consider. 

 

I plan for this to be my last headsail purchase and may use it some for local 
cruising in addition to club racing. BTW, it will be used on a furler either 
way.

 

So what would the listers do!!

 

Charlie Nelson

1995 C 36 XL/kcb

Water Phantom

 

 

 

 

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Stus-List Re: New sails, new wind

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

>From PHRF NS Handicap Racing Fleet Rules section 3

 

“HANDICAP ADJUSTMENTS A. HEADSAILS Adjustment is based on the largest jib or 
genoa and determined by the LP/J ratio stated as a percent. No adjustment is 
made for the largest headsail having an LP/J greater than 135% and less than or 
equal to 155%. If the largest headsail has an LP/J of 111% to 135% a credit of 
3 (three) seconds per mile will given

 

Rod

 

From: cenel...@aol.com  
Sent: February-09-21 11:07 AM
To: strig...@eastlink.ca
Subject: Re: Stus-List New sails, new wind

 

Unfortunately no--NC-PHRF assumes that anyone with a rating will fly up to a 
155% genoa and a proper sized kite. They give a credit for the roller furling 
(3 sec/mile) but not for smaller headsails and you get one rating whether you 
go non-spin or spin. 

 

Charlie



-Original Message-
From: Rod Stright mailto:strig...@eastlink.ca> >
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: cenel...@aol.com  
Sent: Tue, Feb 9, 2021 4:30 am
Subject: RE: Stus-List New sails, new wind

Would you get a PHRF adjustment credit by moving to a 135% Roller Furling 
headsail?

 

Rod Stright

Halifax

 

From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: February-09-21 12:23 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: cenel...@aol.com  
Subject: Stus-List New sails, new wind

 

Hello all listers.  

 

I have a hypothetical for the racers among you. 

 

I need to replace my 3DL headsail--its mostly patches after ~ 5 years of club 
racing locally. This is about my 3rd laminate style headsail---and my last!

 

I am probably going with the North 3D Nordac which has replaced the former 3DL 
technology with what they call a composite sail--not laminated but still built 
over a 3D mold of the sail shape desired--if I understand this correctly. I do 
not need the super light and costly Raw or Endurance.

 

Anyhow, I plan to move to a new sailing area off Southport, NC near Bald Head 
Island at the mouth of the Cape Fear River--basically on the NC coast.

 

All my club racing to date has been in the Pamlico and Neuse Rivers, 
occasionally racing to Ocracoke across the Pamlico Sound. For these areas, a 
155% headsail is the largest you can race with locally without penalty and so 
that is what I have always used. 

 

The North sail maker suggested because of the higher coastal winds that I may 
not need a 155% since the wind strength is higher at the coast. OTOH, a racer 
there uses a 155% headsail and says he does well with it. 

 

I checked the historical average wind speed for Southport and New Bern and the 
coastal winds are from 20-25% higher than at New Bern. 

For instance, the avg. wind speed varies from 5.5-8.1 knots in New Bern vs. 
about 7-10 knots in Southport, or about 25% higher on average.

 

Further, I know from experience that my masthead rig becomes seriously 
overpowered once the wind gets greater than about 12 knots true, when its time 
to reef the main(I only have 1 reef point) and if it goes above ~ 15 knots, I 
need to roll the headsail a few turns (or change down to a 135% or 90% 
headsail).

 

I am not inclined to go less than the 155% allowed locally (PHRF) but maybe I 
should--the local North guy suggested ~ 140%. This might better match the local 
wind and is less expensive since less material is used. OTOH, I don't want to 
be under canvassed on the light air days. 

 

Further, there is the question of sail material weight to consider. 

 

I plan for this to be my last headsail purchase and may use it some for local 
cruising in addition to club racing. BTW, it will be used on a furler either 
way.

 

So what would the listers do!!

 

Charlie Nelson

1995 C 36 XL/kcb

Water Phantom

 

 

 

 

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Stus-List Re: New sails, new wind

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

I believe you could get a 3 second adjustment if the sail is 135% or less
and another 3 sec if it is a RF headsail tacked above the drum provided you
do not already get that credit.  That would apply to whatever headsails you
have as long as they fit on the RF.

 

Rod

 

From: David Risch via CnC-List  
Sent: February-09-21 8:09 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: David Risch 
Subject: Stus-List Re: New sails, new wind

 

As long as you get a rating adjustment go 140-145.   Less cost.  Less wear
and tear on boat, crew, sail and rig.   Much more manageable and better
shape when  roller furl.   

 

From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 5:50 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Hoyt, Mike mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: New sails, new wind

 

Or keep your old patched 155 and use the 140 for the slightly breezier days
and forego the reef 

  _  

From: Rod Stright via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Sent: February 9, 2021 5:30:15 AM
To: 'Stus-List'
Cc: Rod Stright
Subject: Stus-List Re: New sails, new wind 

 

Would you get a PHRF adjustment credit by moving to a 135% Roller Furling
headsail?

 

Rod Stright

Halifax

 

From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: February-09-21 12:23 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: cenel...@aol.com <mailto:cenel...@aol.com> 
Subject: Stus-List New sails, new wind

 

Hello all listers.  

 

I have a hypothetical for the racers among you. 

 

I need to replace my 3DL headsail--its mostly patches after ~ 5 years of
club racing locally. This is about my 3rd laminate style headsail---and my
last!

 

I am probably going with the North 3D Nordac which has replaced the former
3DL technology with what they call a composite sail--not laminated but still
built over a 3D mold of the sail shape desired--if I understand this
correctly. I do not need the super light and costly Raw or Endurance.

 

Anyhow, I plan to move to a new sailing area off Southport, NC near Bald
Head Island at the mouth of the Cape Fear River--basically on the NC coast.

 

All my club racing to date has been in the Pamlico and Neuse Rivers,
occasionally racing to Ocracoke across the Pamlico Sound. For these areas, a
155% headsail is the largest you can race with locally without penalty and
so that is what I have always used. 

 

The North sail maker suggested because of the higher coastal winds that I
may not need a 155% since the wind strength is higher at the coast. OTOH, a
racer there uses a 155% headsail and says he does well with it. 

 

I checked the historical average wind speed for Southport and New Bern and
the coastal winds are from 20-25% higher than at New Bern. 

For instance, the avg. wind speed varies from 5.5-8.1 knots in New Bern vs.
about 7-10 knots in Southport, or about 25% higher on average.

 

Further, I know from experience that my masthead rig becomes seriously
overpowered once the wind gets greater than about 12 knots true, when its
time to reef the main(I only have 1 reef point) and if it goes above ~ 15
knots, I need to roll the headsail a few turns (or change down to a 135% or
90% headsail).

 

I am not inclined to go less than the 155% allowed locally (PHRF) but maybe
I should--the local North guy suggested ~ 140%. This might better match the
local wind and is less expensive since less material is used. OTOH, I don't
want to be under canvassed on the light air days. 

 

Further, there is the question of sail material weight to consider. 

 

I plan for this to be my last headsail purchase and may use it some for
local cruising in addition to club racing. BTW, it will be used on a furler
either way.

 

So what would the listers do!!

 

Charlie Nelson

1995 C 36 XL/kcb

Water Phantom

 

 

 

 

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Stus-List Re: New sails, new wind

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Would you get a PHRF adjustment credit by moving to a 135% Roller Furling 
headsail?

 

Rod Stright

Halifax

 

From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List  
Sent: February-09-21 12:23 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: cenel...@aol.com
Subject: Stus-List New sails, new wind

 

Hello all listers.  

 

I have a hypothetical for the racers among you. 

 

I need to replace my 3DL headsail--its mostly patches after ~ 5 years of club 
racing locally. This is about my 3rd laminate style headsail---and my last!

 

I am probably going with the North 3D Nordac which has replaced the former 3DL 
technology with what they call a composite sail--not laminated but still built 
over a 3D mold of the sail shape desired--if I understand this correctly. I do 
not need the super light and costly Raw or Endurance.

 

Anyhow, I plan to move to a new sailing area off Southport, NC near Bald Head 
Island at the mouth of the Cape Fear River--basically on the NC coast.

 

All my club racing to date has been in the Pamlico and Neuse Rivers, 
occasionally racing to Ocracoke across the Pamlico Sound. For these areas, a 
155% headsail is the largest you can race with locally without penalty and so 
that is what I have always used. 

 

The North sail maker suggested because of the higher coastal winds that I may 
not need a 155% since the wind strength is higher at the coast. OTOH, a racer 
there uses a 155% headsail and says he does well with it. 

 

I checked the historical average wind speed for Southport and New Bern and the 
coastal winds are from 20-25% higher than at New Bern. 

For instance, the avg. wind speed varies from 5.5-8.1 knots in New Bern vs. 
about 7-10 knots in Southport, or about 25% higher on average.

 

Further, I know from experience that my masthead rig becomes seriously 
overpowered once the wind gets greater than about 12 knots true, when its time 
to reef the main(I only have 1 reef point) and if it goes above ~ 15 knots, I 
need to roll the headsail a few turns (or change down to a 135% or 90% 
headsail).

 

I am not inclined to go less than the 155% allowed locally (PHRF) but maybe I 
should--the local North guy suggested ~ 140%. This might better match the local 
wind and is less expensive since less material is used. OTOH, I don't want to 
be under canvassed on the light air days. 

 

Further, there is the question of sail material weight to consider. 

 

I plan for this to be my last headsail purchase and may use it some for local 
cruising in addition to club racing. BTW, it will be used on a furler either 
way.

 

So what would the listers do!!

 

Charlie Nelson

1995 C 36 XL/kcb

Water Phantom

 

 

 

 

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Stus-List Re: FW: Re: Interior 'walls'

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Maybe South Shore?

 

From: cenelson via CnC-List  
Sent: February-01-21 10:08 AM
To: Rod Stright ; 'Stus-List' 
Cc: cenelson 
Subject: Stus-List Re: FW: Re: Interior 'walls'

 

Thank you.

 

I was hoping that I might find a source for this material, perhaps from someone 
who is familiar with wooden boat construction. 

 

More likely a boat builder, including C, made them in house which is likely 
what I will need to do.

 

Thanks again,

 

Charlie Nelson

Water Phantom

1995 C 36XL


Sent from the all new Aol app for iOS 
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On Monday, February 1, 2021, 5:30 AM, Rod Stright mailto:strig...@eastlink.ca> > wrote:

Thanks Charlie,

 

The only boat I had with a wooden ceiling in it was a Frers 33.  It had narrow 
strips with beveled edges held in by stainless steel screws which allowed you 
to take them out and refinish if required. I tried to attach/enclose a picture 
but the site doesn’t seem to allow it to go through.

 

Rod

From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: January-31-21 11:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: cenel...@aol.com <mailto:cenel...@aol.com> 
Subject: Stus-List Re: FW: Re: Interior 'walls'

 

Thanks Rod--you obviously know your nautical terms, as do some others on this 
list. Now a few more listers, including myself, know what to call this 
'planking'. 

 

With that out of the way, back to draining the swamp!  To wit:  some of this  
'ceiling'  in my V berth on my 1995 C 36 XL/kcb has been destroyed by a water 
leak at my forward port hull deck joint leak--since repaired.

 

What I am trying to find is a source of the ceiling to match my original, which 
looks to be either ~1/4" teak or plywood with V-grooves routed in on a 1 7/8" 
centers. The grooves run longitudinally and I need a piece about 12 inches high 
and 24 inches long with the grooves running along the 24" direction.  As far as 
I can tell without cutting out a piece, this ceiling is screwed into stringers 
(behind the 'ceiling') that appear to run longitudinally at the top and bottom 
of the ceiling, which on my boat runs under the V-berth cubby storage cabinets 
down to the fiberglass beneath the V-berth cushion. The screws are covered by 
bungs. I don't know if C manufactured this ceiling material in house or had a 
source for it. I do think a lot of their boats had this 'ceiling' on the inside 
of their hulls.

 

I would appreciate any leads on where I might find some of this 'ceiling' with 
the grooves already cut. 

 

Alternatively, I may have to take a replacement piece of wood to a local 
woodshed and have grooves routed in it or buy a router and some appropriate 
wood and have at it myself.

 

Thanks in advance for any further help--as well as your terminology lesson!

 

Charlie Nelson

1995 C 36 XL/kcb

Water Phantom

-----Original Message-
From: Rod Stright via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Rod Stright mailto:strig...@eastlink.ca> >
Sent: Sun, Jan 31, 2021 9:30 pm
Subject: Stus-List FW: Re: Interior 'walls'

Hi fellow C 99 owners,

On the inside of the hull the covering applied is properly called a ceiling. I 
am from a family of wooden boatbuilders and we don’t like to use terminology 
associated with houses on boats but ceiling is defined below from the Glossary 
of Nautical terms.

ceiling

Planking attached to the inside of the  
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_nautical_terms#frame> frames or  
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_nautical_terms#floor> floors of a 
wooden hull, usually to separate the cargo from the hull planking itself. The 
ceiling has different names in different places:  
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_nautical_terms#limber_boards> limber 
boards,  <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_nautical_terms#spirketting> 
spirketting,  
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_nautical_terms#quickwork> quickwork. 
The lower part of the ceiling is, confusingly to a landsman, what you are 
standing on at the bottom of the hold of a wooden ship

On pleasure boats example Image https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/82612974387656165/

 

Tried to include some pictures but they wouldn’t go through on this website.

 

Rod Stright

C 99

Halifax, NS

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Stus-List FW: Re: FW: Re: Interior 'walls'

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Thanks Charlie,

 

The only boat I had with a wooden ceiling in it was a Frers 33.  It had narrow 
strips with beveled edges held in by stainless steel screws which allowed you 
to take them out and refinish if required. I tried to attach/enclose a picture 
but the site doesn’t seem to allow it to go through.

 

Rod

From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: January-31-21 11:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: cenel...@aol.com <mailto:cenel...@aol.com> 
Subject: Stus-List Re: FW: Re: Interior 'walls'

 

Thanks Rod--you obviously know your nautical terms, as do some others on this 
list. Now a few more listers, including myself, know what to call this 
'planking'. 

 

With that out of the way, back to draining the swamp!  To wit:  some of this  
'ceiling'  in my V berth on my 1995 C 36 XL/kcb has been destroyed by a water 
leak at my forward port hull deck joint leak--since repaired.

 

What I am trying to find is a source of the ceiling to match my original, which 
looks to be either ~1/4" teak or plywood with V-grooves routed in on a 1 7/8" 
centers. The grooves run longitudinally and I need a piece about 12 inches high 
and 24 inches long with the grooves running along the 24" direction.  As far as 
I can tell without cutting out a piece, this ceiling is screwed into stringers 
(behind the 'ceiling') that appear to run longitudinally at the top and bottom 
of the ceiling, which on my boat runs under the V-berth cubby storage cabinets 
down to the fiberglass beneath the V-berth cushion. The screws are covered by 
bungs. I don't know if C manufactured this ceiling material in house or had a 
source for it. I do think a lot of their boats had this 'ceiling' on the inside 
of their hulls.

 

I would appreciate any leads on where I might find some of this 'ceiling' with 
the grooves already cut. 

 

Alternatively, I may have to take a replacement piece of wood to a local 
woodshed and have grooves routed in it or buy a router and some appropriate 
wood and have at it myself.

 

Thanks in advance for any further help--as well as your terminology lesson!

 

Charlie Nelson

1995 C 36 XL/kcb

Water Phantom

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From: Rod Stright via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Rod Stright mailto:strig...@eastlink.ca> >
Sent: Sun, Jan 31, 2021 9:30 pm
Subject: Stus-List FW: Re: Interior 'walls'

Hi fellow C 99 owners,

On the inside of the hull the covering applied is properly called a ceiling. I 
am from a family of wooden boatbuilders and we don’t like to use terminology 
associated with houses on boats but ceiling is defined below from the Glossary 
of Nautical terms.

ceiling

Planking attached to the inside of the  
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_nautical_terms#frame> frames or  
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_nautical_terms#floor> floors of a 
wooden hull, usually to separate the cargo from the hull planking itself. The 
ceiling has different names in different places:  
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_nautical_terms#limber_boards> limber 
boards,  <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_nautical_terms#spirketting> 
spirketting,  
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_nautical_terms#quickwork> quickwork. 
The lower part of the ceiling is, confusingly to a landsman, what you are 
standing on at the bottom of the hold of a wooden ship

On pleasure boats example Image https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/82612974387656165/

 

Tried to include some pictures but they wouldn’t go through on this website.

 

Rod Stright

C 99

Halifax, NS

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[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Hi fellow C 99 owners,

On the inside of the hull the covering applied is properly called a ceiling.
I am from a family of wooden boatbuilders and we don't like to use
terminology associated with houses on boats but ceiling is defined below
from the Glossary of Nautical terms.

ceiling

Planking attached to the inside of the
 frames or
 floors of a
wooden hull, usually to separate the cargo from the hull planking itself.
The ceiling has different names in different places:

limber boards,

spirketting,

quickwork. The lower part of the ceiling is, confusingly to a landsman, what
you are standing on at the bottom of the hold of a wooden ship

On pleasure boats example Image
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/82612974387656165/

 

Tried to include some pictures but they wouldn't go through on this website.

 

Rod Stright

C 99

Halifax, NS

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Stus-List Re: Navtec hydraulic backstay

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Strictly Hydraulics in Burnside, very good at ir.

 

Rod

 

From: dwight veinot via CnC-List  
Sent: January-20-21 5:45 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: dwight veinot 
Subject: Stus-List Navtec hydraulic backstay

 

Mine needs some seals replaced. Can anyone in the Halifax Nova Scotia area 
refer me to a shop in the area that might do this work. -- 

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Stus-List Re: Screw removal

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Wow more than 30 emails on removing a screw.

 

 

 

From: Adam Hayden via CnC-List  
Sent: January-15-21 7:40 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Adam Hayden 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Screw removal

 

Hey everyone   

 

Thanks for all the advice and suggestions.   I have added some new tools 
(thanks Dennis).  I especially appreciated the comment just heat the shit out 
of it.  

Still working at it.  1 has come out.   Can really focus on it this weekend

 

Adam

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Stus-List Re: Americas Cup racing

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Was there an attachment or a link?

 

From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List  
Sent: December-23-20 12:55 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe ; CHARLES SCHEAFFER 

Subject: Stus-List Re: Americas Cup racing

 

You'll probably like this video and seeing J-Class boats in action.  Note the 
number of crew and the amount of lines flaked out on deck.  J-5 is Ranger 

  

C 

On 12/23/2020 10:56 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: 

  

  

IMHO the J-Class were the best, the 12 Meters the second best, and then it all 
went downhill after that.

Oddly enough, last I checked the 12 Meter class was surprisingly active, not 
being AC boats didn’t seem to harm the class overall.

 

Joe

Coquina

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Re: Stus-List Sunglasses favorites

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Agree they are great but so are Costa Tuna Alley  
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MPqaI2bN9Q and they do provide some support to 
the marine environment.

 

Rod

 

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CnC-List
Sent: August-10-20 9:27 AM
To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com' 
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sunglasses favorites

 

Maui Jim have great lenses and are really fun to replace when they go 
overboard.  They belong on a boat because they cost several boat bucks just 
like everything else on a boat!

 

Mike Hoyt

Persistence

Halifax, NS

 

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cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List
Sent: August 9, 2020 6:04 PM
To: CnClist <  CnC-List@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Dennis C. <  capt...@gmail.com>
Subject: Stus-List Sunglasses favorites

 

After wearing prescription glasses since age 3, I'm getting lens implants and 
will be able to toss Rx glasses.  I can now buy off the shelf sunglasses.  Wow!

 

What are your favorites for sailing?  For clarification, lens specifics and 
perceived efficiency as well as brand and model information will be helpful to 
me and perhaps to others but my specific purchase will most likely be a pair 
with nose pads as the bridge of my nose is very narrow.  The wide bridge 
plastic frames just don't work for me.
-- 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

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Re: Stus-List Standard Horizon VH-310 RAM mic to a new home

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Hi Mike checked it out with Standard Horizon and apparently the VH-310 RAM will 
not work with my SH Intrepid so I must decline your generous offer and pay it 
forward to John.  My boat is a 2004 and is all wired up for a and requires a 
CMP23 Ram microphone.  That series has been unavailable since 2004. They are no 
longer manufactured so I am reaching out to see if someone on the list may have 
one for a donation to Stu.  Otherwise I would need to replace everything which 
isn’t worth it since I have quite a few hand held VHFs 

 

Safe Sailing,

 

Rod Stright



President

C 99 Class Association

Halifax

Nova Scotia

 

Thanks

Rod stright

Halifax

 

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CnC-List
Sent: July-26-20 6:24 PM
To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com' 
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Standard Horizon VH-310 RAM mic to a new home

 

Order is Rod first, John 2nd, David 4rd based on time of response.  Advise to 
check with Std Horizon first to ensure compatible.

 

Shipping to Rod will be really cheap!

 

Mike

 

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Sent: July 26, 2020 3:53 PM
To:   cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: David Risch <  davidrisc...@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Standard Horizon VH-310 RAM mic to a new home

 

Me please!!!

Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you. 

 

  _  

From: CnC-List  on behalf of Joe Della Barba via 
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Cc: Joe Della Barba mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> >
Subject: Re: Stus-List Standard Horizon VH-310 RAM mic to a new home 

 

The VH-310 works with my GX-1500. FYI

Joe


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Thanks Mike will let you know as soon as I find out if it is compatible 

Rod 

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> wrote:
> 
> 
> Order is Rod first, John 2nd, David 4rd based on time of response.  Advise to 
> check with Std Horizon first to ensure compatible.
>  
> Shipping to Rod will be really cheap!
>  
> Mike
>  
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> Me please!!!
> 
> Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.
>  
> From: CnC-List  on behalf of Joe Della Barba 
> via CnC-List 
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[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

May work for me Mike I’ll check next time on the boat, Mike missing plug still 
there.

 

Rod

Equinox 99

 

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Sent: July-26-20 10:23 AM
To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com' 
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: Stus-List Standard Horizon VH-310 RAM mic to a new home

 

Pay it forward time …

 

Recently had a pin break off in the female end of our Ram mic 3.  Asked on this 
list and Joe Della Barba sent me a package for a donation to Stu.  The package 
contained the CT-100 cable that runs from radio to cockpit and a brand new 
Standard Horizon VH-310 RAM mic.  The cable replacement fixed my problem and 
our existing Ram mic is now back in action and working perfectly.  Big shout 
out to Joe!

 

This leaves me with a Ram mic VH-310, and mounting bracket but no extra cable.  
An email to Standard Horizon tech support confirms this model does not work on 
VHF radios manufactured after 2013 (it does not on our GX2150 since that was 
new in 2014).

 

If anyone has an older Standard Horizon VHF compatible with this mic it is 
available for a donation to Stu.  

 

Thanks

 

Mike Hoyt

Persistence

Halifax, NS

www.hoytsailing.com  

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Re: Stus-List EV100 Wheel Pilot clutch

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Didn’t work the first time but does now.

 

Thanks

 

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Sent: July-23-20 2:19 PM
To: CnC CnC discussion list 
Cc: David Knecht 
Subject: Re: Stus-List EV100 Wheel Pilot clutch

 

I set it to allow sharing for anyone with the link but for some reason it is 
asking for permission for everyone who tries to use it.  I just sent a 
permission and you should be notified.  Let me know if it works.  Dave

 

S/V Aries

1990 C 34+

New London, CT








On Jul 23, 2020, at 12:59 PM, Lee Youngblood via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

Hi David,

 

Didn’t work for me. . .

 

Curious, Lee

 

 

On Jul 23, 2020, at 9:51 22AM, David Knecht via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

Here is a diagram that shows where to lube the clutch eccentrics:

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HNjG3Nxe0HabHO0ivSHWfduGj0Kd6VM3/view?usp=sharing

 

Let me know if there are problems viewing it.  Dave

 

S/V Aries

1990 C 34+

New London, CT


 

 

 

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Re: Stus-List C 99

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Here the deep keel is 99 and the shoal draft is 105.  They sail well in all 
conditions and handle the 200% spinnaker well.  Ours here are fitted with an 
18” custom made stainless steel sprit which allows us to fly the asymmetrical 
as well.

 

Safe Sailing,

 

Rod Stright



President

C 99 Class Association

Halifax

Nova Scotia

 

 

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Dennis C. via 
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Sent: July-23-20 1:33 PM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List C 99

 

I always thought the 99's were rated a bit fast.  In my area we had a 99 which 
rated, coincidently, 99.  We were about 12 miles down course in Touche' on a 
distance race years ago.  We were about to roll over the 99.  They owed us over 
30 seconds/mile.  And...they'd actually started 5 minutes ahead of us.  They 
saw us and "woke up".  They made some adjustments and gradually pulled away 
from us.

 

Pretty boats.  Would have been prettier behind Touche'.  :)

 

  -- 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:00 AM Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

9.9 meters or 32 feet. As  someone said, the first of the 99’s was shipped out 
to the Annapolis show with a cobbled up part of an interior (from a 110?) and 
Tim Jackett came with it to show it off. They assembled a crack crew and showed 
if off quite well (and it got a lousy PHRF rating that nobody else could quite 
live up to). That boat was Rabbit. Not the best marketing practice if you want 
to sell boat to mortal people. 

 

Gary

30-1 #593

St. Michaels MD

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Sailing with a spin thru the lee of a bigger boat

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

9.9 meters

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Joel Delamirande 
via CnC-List
Sent: July-22-20 7:01 PM
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Cc: Joel Delamirande 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sailing with a spin thru the lee of a bigger boat

 

Is 99 mean 99 feet boat

 

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:17 PM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I think Hull #1 had been modified to do that at some point.  The regular C 99 
comes with symmetric 200% spinnaker and J+1 pole.  A number have since been 
modified to add a small fixed sprit which has total sprit length no longer than 
Spinnaker pole length.  The four racing here (Halifax) do not use the 
sprit/asym a lot.

 

The 99 is a very nice boat

 

Mike Hoyt
Persistence

Halifax

 

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Sent: July 21, 2020 2:13 PM
To: CnC CnC discussion list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: David Knecht mailto:davidakne...@gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sailing with a spin thru the lee of a bigger boat

 

Hi Chuck- I looked at a C 99 when I was buying my boat and it had an integral 
extending pole for an A sail.  I presumed that was standard on the 99, but the 
one in your video doesn’t have one.  Did some have them or was the one I looked 
at modified?  Dave

 

Dr. David Knecht

Professor, Department of Molecular and Cell Biology 

University of Connecticut 

91 N. Eagleville Rd 
 .

U-3125

Storrs, CT 06269-3125

 

 

 

On Jul 21, 2020, at 12:48 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Don, 

I wasn't there, but a crewman aboard the 99 told me the owner has a long 
rivalry with the J-109 which was flying an assymetric on a sprit, also.  He 
told me the 99 is for sale because the owner bought a J-109 cause it's faster 
upwind and points higher.   I find the video quite exciting with so many 
different boats so close together.  The essence of racing. 

 

Chuck   

On 07/21/2020 12:27 PM Donald Kern via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Chuck, 
Good demonstration of what happens when you decide to sail a smaller boat thru 
the lee of a bigger boat.  Especially dead downwind with a A-chute and the 
bigger  has a symmetric chute.   Unless the A-chute was in restricted water or 
closing the mark they should have been maxing their VMG by tacking downwind.  
Brings back memories of those blue and gold chutes - use to skipper the wood 
and first glass NA 44 yawls. Preferred the wood, they were faster; had no 
engines, less weight and drag.  Bristol YC and Herreshoff Marine Museum sponsor 
the boat school's 44s each June for the last 5yrs (missed this year of Offshore 
Training because of CORVID 19). 

Beat Army !! 
  
Don Kern 
Fireball C Mk2 
Bristol, RI 

On 7/21/2020 10:55 AM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List wrote: 

I focus on the sailing ability in selecting a boat.  If you sail in a steady 
high winds, go big.  But if you are more like the rest of us and have low wind 
predominantly, I would steer toward the smallest, lightest model C that still 
has just enough interior to accommodate my family.  Smaller, lighter, hulls 
move first as the wind builds from a calm while heavier boats struggle until 
the wind gets up over 10 knots.  It takes much less wind to move a 10,000# boat 
than a 20,000# one.  Even less to move a 5000# boat like a 27 footer which has 
standing headroom and can be trailered home for the winter.  They will all sail 
to hullspeed once the wind reaches about 12 knots and then the longer waterline 
boat has a speed advantage, but under 10 knots which is predominantly what we 
sail in, the lighter boats win and are easier to singlehand and dock, etc.  
Check out this video of a C 99, a 32 footer catching a J109 and two Navy 44 
footers in a race. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBKifuS60Go 

 

I also prefer the C 34/36 model as I own the racing version w vee berths 
(removable for racing) and settee berths, pilot beths, a full width aft berth 
and two pipe berths.  We rate faster than the 40 and the bigger sister, the 
37/40 rates faster still, though I think the 34/36 was an improvement over it.  

Check out the brochures on Stu's cncphotoalbum.com   

  

 

Chuck Scheaffer Resolute 1989 C 34R Pasadena, Md 

 

   

On 07/21/2020 9:55 AM Nathan Post via CnC-List   
 wrote: 

 

 

Welcome Jeff, 

 

Something to keep in mind is that a 40 is almost twice as much boat compared to 
a 34 or 35 (18000+ lbs rather than 1 or so. Everything is bigger, heavier 
and more expensive.   And it can also get more complicated to sail - does it 
have running backstays?  I think that a 38 such as Ocean Phoenix does have 
running backstays - not sure about the 40.  My 34 does not.  Not a big deal for 
long passages, but we tend to go out to tool around for an evening 

Re: Stus-List Sailing with a spin thru the lee of a bigger boat

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Yes hull #1 was called Rabbit and was basically a stripped out boat that they 
added a long retractable sprit to and a 54” wheel.  The boat was sold and now 
has an interior.

 

Rod Stright



President

C 99 Class Association

Halifax

Nova Scotia

 

 

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via 
CnC-List
Sent: July-21-20 2:17 PM
To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com' 
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sailing with a spin thru the lee of a bigger boat

 

I think Hull #1 had been modified to do that at some point.  The regular C 99 
comes with symmetric 200% spinnaker and J+1 pole.  A number have since been 
modified to add a small fixed sprit which has total sprit length no longer than 
Spinnaker pole length.  The four racing here (Halifax) do not use the 
sprit/asym a lot.

 

The 99 is a very nice boat

 

Mike Hoyt
Persistence

Halifax

 

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Sent: July 21, 2020 2:13 PM
To: CnC CnC discussion list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: David Knecht mailto:davidakne...@gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sailing with a spin thru the lee of a bigger boat

 

Hi Chuck- I looked at a C 99 when I was buying my boat and it had an integral 
extending pole for an A sail.  I presumed that was standard on the 99, but the 
one in your video doesn’t have one.  Did some have them or was the one I looked 
at modified?  Dave

 

Dr. David Knecht

Professor, Department of Molecular and Cell Biology 

University of Connecticut 

91 N. Eagleville Rd.

U-3125

Storrs, CT 06269-3125

 

 

 

On Jul 21, 2020, at 12:48 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Don, 

I wasn't there, but a crewman aboard the 99 told me the owner has a long 
rivalry with the J-109 which was flying an assymetric on a sprit, also.  He 
told me the 99 is for sale because the owner bought a J-109 cause it's faster 
upwind and points higher.   I find the video quite exciting with so many 
different boats so close together.  The essence of racing. 

 

Chuck   

On 07/21/2020 12:27 PM Donald Kern via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Chuck, 
Good demonstration of what happens when you decide to sail a smaller boat thru 
the lee of a bigger boat.  Especially dead downwind with a A-chute and the 
bigger  has a symmetric chute.   Unless the A-chute was in restricted water or 
closing the mark they should have been maxing their VMG by tacking downwind.  
Brings back memories of those blue and gold chutes - use to skipper the wood 
and first glass NA 44 yawls. Preferred the wood, they were faster; had no 
engines, less weight and drag.  Bristol YC and Herreshoff Marine Museum sponsor 
the boat school's 44s each June for the last 5yrs (missed this year of Offshore 
Training because of CORVID 19). 

Beat Army !! 
  
Don Kern 
Fireball C Mk2 
Bristol, RI 

On 7/21/2020 10:55 AM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List wrote: 

I focus on the sailing ability in selecting a boat.  If you sail in a steady 
high winds, go big.  But if you are more like the rest of us and have low wind 
predominantly, I would steer toward the smallest, lightest model C that still 
has just enough interior to accommodate my family.  Smaller, lighter, hulls 
move first as the wind builds from a calm while heavier boats struggle until 
the wind gets up over 10 knots.  It takes much less wind to move a 10,000# boat 
than a 20,000# one.  Even less to move a 5000# boat like a 27 footer which has 
standing headroom and can be trailered home for the winter.  They will all sail 
to hullspeed once the wind reaches about 12 knots and then the longer waterline 
boat has a speed advantage, but under 10 knots which is predominantly what we 
sail in, the lighter boats win and are easier to singlehand and dock, etc.  
Check out this video of a C 99, a 32 footer catching a J109 and two Navy 44 
footers in a race. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBKifuS60Go 

 

I also prefer the C 34/36 model as I own the racing version w vee berths 
(removable for racing) and settee berths, pilot beths, a full width aft berth 
and two pipe berths.  We rate faster than the 40 and the bigger sister, the 
37/40 rates faster still, though I think the 34/36 was an improvement over it.  

Check out the brochures on Stu's cncphotoalbum.com   

  

 

Chuck Scheaffer Resolute 1989 C 34R Pasadena, Md 

 

   

On 07/21/2020 9:55 AM Nathan Post via CnC-List   
 wrote: 

 

 

Welcome Jeff, 

 

Something to keep in mind is that a 40 is almost twice as much boat compared to 
a 34 or 35 (18000+ lbs rather than 1 or so. Everything is bigger, heavier 
and more expensive.   And it can also get more complicated to sail - does it 
have running backstays?  I think that a 38 such as Ocean Phoenix does have 
running backstays - not sure about the 40.  My 34 does not.  Not a big deal for 
long passages, but we tend 

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Stus-List C 29 Mark 1 Rudder Installation Drawings

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Does anyone have the diagram/drawing for the C 29 Mk 1rudder and rudder 
stock/shaft installation or photos of the fitting used where the rudder stock 
comes through the cockpit sole?  Asking for a friend who is trying to 
repair/rebuild his.  I understand these boats have/had no bushings.

Thanks

Rod Stright 

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Does anyone have the diagram/drawing for the C 29 Mk 1rudder and rudder 
stock/shaft installation or photos of the fitting used where the rudder stock 
comes through the cockpit sole?  Asking for a friend who is trying to 
repair/rebuild his.  I understand these boats have/had no bushings.

 

Thanks

Rod Stright 

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Stus-List Removing bleed through from masking tape.

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Just finished painting the three boot stripes on my C 99.  They look great 
but as expected, although the Frog masking tape was great and left a sharp 
lines there are a couple of areas where the paint bled through the making tape. 
 Anyone have any secrets for cleaning that up, other than an exacto knife and 
scraper?

 

Thanks

Rod Stright

C 99 

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of General Gao via 
CnC-List
Sent: May-18-20 12:42 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: General Gao 
Subject: Re: Stus-List speedometer - C 35 Mk2

 

thank you everyone. I really appreciate the information. I will go check and 
report back.

 

Stay safe!

 

Bo

 

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 8:32 AM Ken Heaton via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Yup, that's correct. If there are only two wires coming from the paddlewheel 
transducer, it is likely this 'generator' type as a more modern hall effect 
transducer will have at least three wires (I think).

 

Of course a broke wire or bad connection anywhere between the transducer and 
the instrument will cause it all to not work.  We would just pull the 
transducer and connect it directly to the back of the instrument to see what 
happens.

 

>From the Troubleshooting section (last page) of the pdf I linked:

 

TROUBLESHOOTING 

 

DISPLAY READS ZERO- The problem could be either the transmitter or the display. 
Please follow the proceeding steps to determine cause of the problem-

 

A. Measure the two wires of the transmitter with an ohm meter for resistance 
value of approximately 2000 ohms (2K ohms). Do not spin the paddlewheel.

a. If unit is good, then check paddlewheel for any broken fins or missing 
magnets.

b. If unit is open (infinite resistance) then unit needs replacing.

B. Measure with an AC voltmeter when the paddlewheel is spinning. You should 
get approximately 1.0 VAC at about 5 knots of speed when unloaded (not hooked 
up to display).

INTERMITTENT READINGS- Keep the unit wired as normal and add an AC voltmeter to 
where the input wires of the transmitter are connected. Motor or sail as usual-

 

A. If an AC voltage is being produced but no speed indication appears on 
display, then the problem is in the display.

B. If readings only occur when voltages are produced, then the paddlewheel is 
not always turning. Clean paddlewheel first and be sure it spins freely, and 
then try again. If the results are the same then paddlewheel may need 
replacing.   

 

 

 

On Mon, 18 May 2020 at 09:18, Josh Muckley via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

So if I understand it correctly, the theory of operation for these generator 
style knot meters would simply be a 2 wire system and a voltage developed 
between the two?  I would expect that a simple initial test would be for 
continuity between the two wires with the wheel stopped.  Then spin the wheel 
and check for voltage proportional to the speed of the wheel.

 

Josh Muckley 

S/V Sea Hawk 

1989 C 37+

Solomons, MD 

 

 

On Mon, May 18, 2020, 07:38 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

There are (were) some generator knotmeters. Coquina came with one when 
we bought her. If memory serves, it topped out at 10 or 12 knots and it 
was always fun to peg it :)

Joe

Coquina

On 5/18/2020 5:32 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List wrote:
> Have you looked at this web page?  This takes yo to the manuals for SR 
> Mariner Instruments (since 1973): 
> https://srinstruments.com/manuals#mariner_manuals
>
> The only SR Mariner Knotmeter I ever worked on (on a friend's C 35 
> Mk.I 1973) was self powered.  In other words, no external power was 
> needed (except for the backlight for the instrument face for night 
> use), the paddle-wheel seemed to be a generator.
>
> More info here: https://srinstruments.com/r/manuals/public/MANSELF.pdf
>
> Ken H.
>

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Stus-List Refinishing Boot Top

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Has anyone refinished/repainted their boot top?  I have three stripes, which I 
believe are AwlGrip, that are showing a bit of wear especially the lower one 
where the PO sanded through the edges of the boot top when sanding the bottom.  
A big job to refinish all three especially if I have to have the paint sprayed 
on in a yard full of boats.  I believe there may have been previous posts on 
this subject but I was unable to find them.

 

Thanks in advance for your input, perhaps a COVID 19 project.

 

Rod Stright

Halifax

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Re: Stus-List Spring Fever

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Here it is Russ,

https://www.tc.gc.ca/documents/2019-2020-AA-36-COVID-19_SOCIAL_DISTANCING_BOATERS_17x11_EN_V05_ACC.PDF
  

The problem I have with the social distancing guidelines is that there is no 
provision for safety concerns or variations for the length of the vessel.  As 
you are no doubt aware the safety requirements are based upon vessel length but 
with these guidelines there is no provision for the length of the vessel.  So 
on a larger vessel, where you could maintain social or physical distancing and 
safely operate the vessel with a few crew the guidelines seem overly 
restrictive.  Here the current limit for gatherings is 5 at the present time.

The image of a canoe doesn’t do a lot for the credibility of this poster.

I assume as these are guidelines only they are not legally binding and do not 
override safety considerations; however, it seems none of the sailing 
associations do anything to challenge these guidelines, they just accept them.

Rod

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Russ & Melody via 
CnC-List
Sent: May-04-20 2:10 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Russ & Melody 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Spring Fever


Hi Rod,

Do you have a link for that Transport Canada notice?

  I can't find anything about it... seems kinda odd though, being as small 
boats are typically a provincial jurisdiction. Although there are a ton of tiny 
bureaucrats jumping on this covid flu thing to enhance their own importance.

We had the RCMP at some boat ramps discouraging people from going out to fish 
at the same time the Chief Public Health officer, Dr. Bonnie Henry, was telling 
people to get outside.

Weird times indeed. It might be time to regain some of our rights since the 
hospitals are empty and not overwhelming them was the whole purpose of lockdown.

 Cheers, Russ



At 03:36 PM 5/3/2020, you wrote:
>Thanks Neil hopefully they will allow groups of
>5 or less but they couple that with social distancing.  Additionally 
>Transport Canada currently says you can only have family you live with 
>on the boat, regardless of the size of the boat.  Hopefully that will 
>change, last Friday you weren’t allowed to work on your boat so that 
>has changed.
>
>Rod


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Thanks Neil hopefully they will allow groups of 5 or less but they couple that 
with social distancing.  Additionally Transport Canada currently says you can 
only have family you live with on the boat, regardless of the size of the boat. 
 Hopefully that will change, last Friday you weren’t allowed to work on your 
boat so that has changed.

Rod 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2020, at 7:23 PM, schiller via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
>  Rod,
> 
> We don't race Grace.  It is just the wife and I, right now.  As I understand 
> it, Michigan only limits congregations of 10 or less so technically you would 
> be able to race with a crew.
> 
> It is just nice to have the normal spring routine to get the boat ready for 
> launch.
> 
> I have been monitoring whether the Queen's Cup or the Clipper Cup across the 
> lake races are cancelled.  So far they have not been.  The Queen's Cup is 
> late June and they will need to make a decision soon.  Complicating things is 
> that the high lake levels have created a lot of marina problems for fixed 
> docks.  Luckily we are in a marina with floating docks.
> 
> Neil Schiller
> 1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
> Whitehall, Michigan
> WLYC
> 
> On 5/3/2020 5:40 PM, Rod Stright via CnC-List wrote:
>> Are you allowed to race and is it family only on the boat or do they allow 
>> you have a physically distanced crew, like maybe 3?
>>  
>> From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of schiller via 
>> CnC-List
>> Sent: May-03-20 5:35 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: schiller 
>> Subject: Stus-List Spring Fever
>>  
>> Well, we've broken containment and evaded house arrest up here in the great 
>> midwest.  washed and polished the topsides today, VC-17 Thursday and we will 
>> have all the exterior work ready for launch.  Still need to do some minor 
>> electrical upgrades to get things to my satisfaction, but I can do those on 
>> rainy days.  Our marina is working to catch up on launching boats.  His crew 
>> will work 7 days a week once boats are ready for launch.  We haven't 
>> completely lifted the house arrests but once Queen Gretch allowed powerboat 
>> use the marinas decided that meant that they could launch boats.
>> 
>> Both Friday and today while we were up there everybody seemed to be acting 
>> responsibly and giving space to others.
>> 
>> The other good news we got last week was that UK Sails was able to finish 
>> our new Main and Jib while on lock down.  They stayed open sewing masks and 
>> that alloweed them to complete some of the logged orders.  Now all we have 
>> to do is arrange a clandestine meeting to take possession.
>> 
>> We may be able to get in the water yet.  Although high Great Lakes water 
>> levels may keep us from going anywhere except around our area.
>> 
>> Neil Schiller
>> 1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
>> Whitehall, Michigan
>> WLYC
>> 
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Are you allowed to race and is it family only on the boat or do they allow you 
have a physically distanced crew, like maybe 3?

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of schiller via 
CnC-List
Sent: May-03-20 5:35 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: schiller 
Subject: Stus-List Spring Fever

 

Well, we've broken containment and evaded house arrest up here in the great 
midwest.  washed and polished the topsides today, VC-17 Thursday and we will 
have all the exterior work ready for launch.  Still need to do some minor 
electrical upgrades to get things to my satisfaction, but I can do those on 
rainy days.  Our marina is working to catch up on launching boats.  His crew 
will work 7 days a week once boats are ready for launch.  We haven't completely 
lifted the house arrests but once Queen Gretch allowed powerboat use the 
marinas decided that meant that they could launch boats.

Both Friday and today while we were up there everybody seemed to be acting 
responsibly and giving space to others.

The other good news we got last week was that UK Sails was able to finish our 
new Main and Jib while on lock down.  They stayed open sewing masks and that 
alloweed them to complete some of the logged orders.  Now all we have to do is 
arrange a clandestine meeting to take possession.

We may be able to get in the water yet.  Although high Great Lakes water levels 
may keep us from going anywhere except around our area.

Neil Schiller
1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

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Re: Stus-List Paddle Wheel Anti-fouling...?

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Transducer paint

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of David Risch via
CnC-List
Sent: April-13-20 12:33 PM
To: CNC CNC 
Cc: David Risch 
Subject: Stus-List Paddle Wheel Anti-fouling...?

 

My paddle wheel fouls if you just look at it...any solutions to reducing
fouling (besides putting it in/taking it out which is a total PIA)

Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you. 

 

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Re: Stus-List Dumb question of the day - life rings, horseshoe or cushion?

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Most Horseshoes are light, can’t be thrown in any wind and break apart with any 
load on them.  Life rings are solid, strong and can be thrown effectively, 
built to Safety of Life at Sea at Convention (SOLAS) standards specified in the 
Life Saving Appliance (LSA) Code and satisfy Transport Canada regulations 
specified in the Lifesaving Equipment Regulations.  Life slings are built 
differently and used differently   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfxqJkMsF-8  their major benefit is the ability 
if used properly is to be able to hoist someone back aboard.

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Bruce Whitmore via 
CnC-List
Sent: March-02-20 6:55 PM
To: Cnc-list CNC Boat Owners 
Cc: Bruce Whitmore 
Subject: Stus-List Dumb question of the day - life rings, horseshoe or cushion?

 

So I have a lifesling and a throwable cushion.  Yet, I see lots of boats with 
horseshoes, and commercial boats with life rings.  

 

Is there an inherent reason for one design over another?  

 

Bruce Whitmore

1994 C 37/40+

"Astralis"

Madeira Beach, FL 

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net  

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Re: Stus-List C 99 Class Association and Fleet

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Thanks Don this is excellent and I know from trying to track down, just the
C 99s, a lot of work.  Very much appreciated.

 

Thanks for your interest and hard work on behalf of the C 99 class.

 

Rod Stright



President

C 99 Class Association

Halifax

Nova Scotia

 

 

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Donald Kern via
CnC-List
Sent: February-21-20 1:10 PM
To: Rod Stright via CnC-List 
Cc: Donald Kern 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 99 Class Association and Fleet

 

Rod
I have attached an extracted list of the C 99s that have come up on the
cnc-list or PHRF fleet listings, etc.  The list I have, started about three
years ago when I was interested in C owners on how long they owned their
C (Brand loyalty). It now has a little over 1350 C boats. On the
extracted list, the boats following Bear Necessity (line 36) are from your
site that I added to my list.  
Don Kern
Fireball C 35 Mk2
Bristol RI

On 2/21/2020 8:45 AM, Rod Stright via CnC-List wrote:

We are in the process of revitalising the C 99 class and have developed a
new Class Association and website @ http://cnc99class.com/#home and are
trying to track down the current inventory and ownership of C 99 fleet.
If you own a C 99 and are not on our fleet list @
<http://cnc99class.com/the-fleet/> http://cnc99class.com/the-fleet/ please
email mail me and we will get you signed up.  If you know of a C 99 owner
not on the list please pass on this information.

 

Thanks for your attention and help in rejuvenating the class.

 

Safe Sailing,

 

Rod Stright



President

C 99 Class Association

Halifax

Nova Scotia

 





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Stus-List C 99 Class Association and Fleet

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

We are in the process of revitalising the C 99 class and have developed a
new Class Association and website @  
http://cnc99class.com/#home and are trying to track down the current
inventory and ownership of C 99 fleet.  If you own a C 99 and are not on
our fleet list @  
http://cnc99class.com/the-fleet/ please email mail me and we will get you
signed up.  If you know of a C 99 owner not on the list please pass on
this information.

 

Thanks for your attention and help in rejuvenating the class.

 

Safe Sailing,

 

Rod Stright



President

C 99 Class Association

Halifax

Nova Scotia

 

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Stus-List Wanted - Used Practice Spinnaker

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Hey Guys/Gals in case you ordered a new spinnaker this winter or are no
longer racing I am looking for a used racing spinnaker in reasonable
condition as a practice spinnaker.  Luff approximately 46' and mid
girth/foot approximately 26 - 27'.  

Boats I measurement 46' and J 14.5'.  PM me at strig...@eastlink.ca
  if you have something that might work.

 

Thanks

Rod

 

 

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Stus-List Painting boot top

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Has anyone repainted or touched up their boot top and if so how did it turn out?

Rod Stright
2004 C 99

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Re: Stus-List Fwd: Great Lakes water levels...for C now Erie Canal

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Do we have enough posts about water levels?  Anything about C would be nice

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 26, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Richard Bush via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Joe, I have a old 13 foot Whaler that we use on the Ohio River...it really 
> gets lost in the big Cruiser waves!
> 
> 
> Richard
> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
> 502-584-7255
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
> Sent: Tue, Nov 26, 2019 2:01 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Great Lakes water levels...for C now Erie Canal
> 
> An old 13 footer. It would be awful out in a Great Lake on anything but a 
> calm day. It can do canals.
>  
> Joe
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David 
> Risch via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 1:47 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: David Risch 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Fwd: Great Lakes water levels...for C 
> now Erie Canal
>  
> Joe…how big a Whaler?
>  
> David F. Risch
> (401) 419-4650
>  
> From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe 
> via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 8:02 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Great Lakes water levels...for C now Erie Canal
>  
> I have thought of taking the Whaler up there and putting it in for a week 
> vacation. We could go from town to town and stay at B Also I think there 
> is a canal around Toronto maybe that is good for that kind of thing. I’ll 
> need some seat cushions though, I did 60 miles in the Whaler and ended up a 
> bit sore from sitting on a board.
> Joe
> Coquina
> 1973 C 35 MK I
> Night Heron
> 1970 Boston Whaler 13 Sport
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Matthew L. 
> Wolford via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 7:25 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Matthew L. Wolford 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Fwd: Great Lakes water levels...for C
>  
> I’ll have to look into it.  Mast down, I assume?
>  
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Stus-List Used practice Spinnaker

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Looking for a used spinnaker in good condition to be used as a practice
sail.  Approximate dimensions Luff 46'  foot/mid girth 26.5'.  PM me at
strig...@eastlink.ca  

 

Rod

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Fwd: Fwd: Cabin Sole resurfacing

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

And how does it stand up to racing abuse, dropped winch handles, stains etc.  
Photos I saw online it looked pretty good.

Rod 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 10, 2019, at 8:11 AM, bwhitmore via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Mike and group,  
> 
> If anyone has good photos of the installed Lonseal PlasTeak product,  I'd 
> like to see them.
> 
> As much as I am a traditionalist, ease of repair my win out.
> 
> I'd really like to know if you can notice a distinct difference between this 
> and real teak.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Bruce 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Samsung tablet.
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Mike Taylor via CnC-List 
> Date: 11/9/19 4:42 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Mike Taylor 
> Subject: Stus-List Fwd:  Fwd:  Cabin Sole resurfacing
> 
> Hi Rod
> 
> Here is a link to the product I purchased from Defender.  Correction on 
> product name.  PlasTeak is the trade name.  Lonseal makes them all.
> 
> https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1%7C2276179%7C2276198%7C2276201=3325405
> 
> I’m on the east coast now I could provide pics next week when I get home.
> 
> Mike
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Rod Stright 
>> Date: November 9, 2019 at 5:06:27 PM AST
>> Cc: Mike Taylor 
>> Subject: Re:  Stus-List Fwd:  Cabin Sole resurfacing
>> 
>> Can you send additional info haven’t heard of it here.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Rod 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Nov 9, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Mike Taylor via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> I went with PlasTeak a few years ago.  New plywood with 2 coats of West 
>>> system epoxy.  Looks real good.  Got it at Defender.  Can send some tips 
>>> and pics if you desire.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
 From: David Knecht via CnC-List 
 Date: November 9, 2019 at 9:22:28 AM AST
 To: CnC discussion list CnC 
 Cc: David Knecht 
 Subject: Stus-List Cabin Sole resurfacing
 Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 
 The cabin sole on my boat is not in great shape.  There are areas where 
 the holly stripes and are gone or pulling away.   I am considering what to 
 do and have a vague recollection of someone using a glue-on faux 
 teak/holley covering over the wood (Nautikflor?) but I can’t find that 
 discussion anywhere in the archives.  Has anyone done that?  Thanks- Dave
 
 S/V Aries
 1990 C 34+
 New London, CT
 
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Re: Stus-List Fwd: Fwd: Cabin Sole resurfacing

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

That would be great Mike, I believe you said you put a finish on it?  I am 
located in Halifax, Nova Scotia and own a C 99

Rod 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 9, 2019, at 5:43 PM, Mike Taylor via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Rod
> 
> Here is a link to the product I purchased from Defender.  Correction on 
> product name.  PlasTeak is the trade name.  Lonseal makes them all.
> 
> https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1%7C2276179%7C2276198%7C2276201=3325405
> 
> I’m on the east coast now I could provide pics next week when I get home.
> 
> Mike
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Rod Stright 
>> Date: November 9, 2019 at 5:06:27 PM AST
>> Cc: Mike Taylor 
>> Subject: Re:  Stus-List Fwd:  Cabin Sole resurfacing
>> 
>> Can you send additional info haven’t heard of it here.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Rod 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Nov 9, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Mike Taylor via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> I went with PlasTeak a few years ago.  New plywood with 2 coats of West 
>>> system epoxy.  Looks real good.  Got it at Defender.  Can send some tips 
>>> and pics if you desire.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
 From: David Knecht via CnC-List 
 Date: November 9, 2019 at 9:22:28 AM AST
 To: CnC discussion list CnC 
 Cc: David Knecht 
 Subject: Stus-List Cabin Sole resurfacing
 Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 
 The cabin sole on my boat is not in great shape.  There are areas where 
 the holly stripes and are gone or pulling away.   I am considering what to 
 do and have a vague recollection of someone using a glue-on faux 
 teak/holley covering over the wood (Nautikflor?) but I can’t find that 
 discussion anywhere in the archives.  Has anyone done that?  Thanks- Dave
 
 S/V Aries
 1990 C 34+
 New London, CT
 
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Re: Stus-List Practice Spinnaker

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Closer to a C 35 mk III I believe



From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Jeff Helsdingen via 
CnC-List
Sent: October-07-19 3:00 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Jeff Helsdingen 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Practice Spinnaker



If that's for a mk1 35 I have a couple. Send me a mail at 
onemorejeff(at)gmail(dot)com



Jeff



On Mon., Oct. 7, 2019, 1:52 p.m. Rod Stright via CnC-List, 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Just wondering if anyone out there has a used spinnaker that they are not using 
any longer.  Looking for a spinnaker with a luff of approx. 46’ and a mid-girth 
and/or foot of 26.5’.  Dimensions not critical as it will be only used for 
practice.



Rod Stright

Halifax, NS



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Stus-List Practice Spinnaker

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Just wondering if anyone out there has a used spinnaker that they are not using 
any longer.  Looking for a spinnaker with a luff of approx. 46’ and a mid-girth 
and/or foot of 26.5’.  Dimensions not critical as it will be only used for 
practice.



Rod Stright

Halifax, NS



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Re: Stus-List C Lister Roll Call

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Hi Edd,



Rod Stright/Equinox99/C 99 – 2004/ 056 /  strig...@eastlink.ca 
  / Halifax, NS, Canada



Class website: http://cnc99class.com/  Facebook Group: 
https://www.facebook.com/groups/cnc99class/



Regards,



Rod Stright



President

C 99 Class Association

Halifax

Nova Scotia









From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Mark Baldridge via 
CnC-List
Sent: October-03-19 10:17 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Mark Baldridge 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C Lister Roll Call



Mark Baldridge / The Edge / C 37/40+ kcb/ 1989 / 30 / jmbaldri...@gmail.com 
  / Surf City, NC

On 10/3/2019 4:52 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote:

Listers,



In my spare time, I’m going to start working on an email list / bulletin board 
/ photo archive / information center website for C Owners, that will act as a 
supplement and perhaps one day, only when Stu says he’s no longer interested in 
continuing on, act as a replacement to the service we are using now.



I’d like to start compiling a database of C Owners. When you have a moment, 
please respond to this email (either to the whole list or by direct email to 
me) with the following information:



Name / Boat name / C Model / C Year / Sail number / Email Address / Home 
Port



For example:

Edd Schillay / Starship Enterprise / C 37/40+ / 1990 / NCC-1701-B /  
 e...@schillay.com / Venice Island, FL



Thanks to all.



And for those of you up north who are reviewing/signing their winter haul-out 
and storage contracts, I can now say, “Nah, Nah. Na-Na Nah!"



All the best,



Edd





Edd M. Schillay

Captain of the Starship Enterprise

C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL



Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 





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Re: Stus-List Engine compartment bilge pump and blower

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

That is the law in Canada according to Transport Canada for enclosed gasoline 
engines here in Canada.



Regards

Rod Stright



From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of John Christopher 
via CnC-List
Sent: September-30-19 1:22 PM
To: Francois Rivard 
Cc: John Christopher ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine compartment bilge pump and blower



Don’t disagree, but my 1983 LF 38 manual says run blower for 5 minutes before 
starting engine.

/John


On Sep 30, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Francois Rivard mailto:jeanfrancoisriv...@gmail.com> > wrote:

When to run a blower with a Diesel?



Never.  That's part of the whole point of having a diesel in the first place.



Best Regards,



-Francois Rivard

1990 34+ "Take Five"

Lake Lanier, GA







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Re: Stus-List Adding cover to line

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Locking wiping, whipping?



From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Morgan Ellis via 
CnC-List
Sent: June-26-19 3:04 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Morgan Ellis 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Adding cover to line



The C 115 that I used to crew on had the same issue, tried smaller jaws in 
the clutch, which helped but not much. In the end, what worked was adding the 
second core to the 5' of halyard where the clutch needs to grab. On that boat, 
we also removed some core from the tail end of the halyard, which made feeding 
thru clutches easier. If you are doing this remember to add some locking wiping 
to keep everything in place. On the J35 I race on now we actually added a 
second clutch inline for the main and jib halyards, this helps but when it is 
really blowing we still take the halyards to a horn cleat as well (but no 
locking turn).



Morgan Ellis

S/V Meandher 30-2 #140

Thunder Bay, ON



On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 08:36, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Another thought is a horn or cam cleat aft of the clutches.  J boats all have 
cam cleats.  Our Frers has a horn cleat.  On windy days our main and jib 
halyards will slip if this is not used.  On the C 115 we would lose 2 feet of 
hoist on main if we did not tie off the halyard somehow.



Mike

Persistence

Halifax



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 ] On Behalf Of Chuck Gilchrest via 
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Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 6:24 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Chuck Gilchrest
Subject: Re: Stus-List Adding cover to line



Before you bulk up your Halyards or change to a rope with a more aggressive 
cover, it would be good to know if the high tech but slippery halyard line is:

A. New to the boat?

B. If yes to the above, is it properly sized for the clutch?

C. If old, is there visible wear on the cover or signs of non-recoverable 
compression where the clutch holds the rope? Try end for ending the halyard to 
move the wear area to a different spot.  If wear seems excessive, replace the 
halyard before it comes apart under load.

D. Are the clutch teeth worn?  Depending on the brand of clutch, rebuild kits 
can be sourced.  If nothing else has changed on the boat and the halyard has 
just started slipping, this is the usual culprit.



Chuck Gilchrest

S/V HalfMagic

1983 35 LF

Padanaram, MA

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On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:24 PM, WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I have hi tech low stretch but slippery halyard which my clutches just won't 
hold.  Thinking of adding another cover at the point where they pass through 
clutch.
Any thoughts or solutions beyond replacing clutches or halyards.  now I take to 
a cleat, but cumbersome as I have both on same side with a single winch and 
when remove from winch get a little slip before can cleat off..
Bill Walker
CnC 36
Evening Star
Pentwater, Mi.

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Stus-List One 9.5' SeaBright Inflatable tender c/w new 5HP outboard for sale

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

One like new 290P Seabright inflatable http://www.seabrightmarine.ca/sd290.html 
grey with blue trim c/w under seat storage bags, aluminum floorboards, storage 
bag and one 5 HP APS 4 stroke 5 HP outboard c/w cart and fuel tank. Both used 
less than 5 hours. Original cost $2600 plus tax. $2000 obo for a quick sale. 
902-209-0829 or strig...@eastlink.ca  .



Location Halifax, Nova Scotia

Rod Stright

C 99

2004



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Stus-List Used Nexus Instruments

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Anyone out there have any used Nexus instruments they have replaced and no 
longer need that could be used for spares for a good working system.  You can 
pm me at strig...@eastlink.ca   to avoid bothering 
others on the site.



Thanks

Rod

Halifax



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Re: Stus-List Replacing a CnC 44 Rudder

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

I would suggest Competition Composites in Ontario excellent 
workmanship,Canadian 

Rod

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> On Apr 18, 2019, at 4:38 PM, Dan via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Has any C owners on the list replaced their rudder, and if so, where did 
> you have the work done? - The price is dramatically reduced if they have an 
> existing mold to work with.
> 
> Dan Cormier
> Breakaweigh
> C
> Halifax, NS
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Re: Stus-List 34 genoa sheets

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Yes Novabraid know their stuff but Cajun can get it all and do a nice job on 
the lines and splices





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CnC-List
Sent: April-05-19 9:26 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 genoa sheets



They are using Novabraid ropes (great stuff). What i did not like there (at 
Cajun) is that the online options are limited. I was buying halyards, so it 
mattered a bit.  Eventually, I had a local shop (Marine Outfitters) do my lines 
(end splices, halyard shackles) using the Novabraid ropes. I can’t wait to put 
them to use.



Btw. Listen to what Chuck says on ropes; he really knows this stuff 
(professionally!).



Marek



From: Rod Stright via CnC-List

Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 07:19

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Cc: Rod Stright

Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 genoa sheets



Check out Cajun ropes awesome prices and good rope 
https://www.facebook.com/CajunRopes/?ref=br_rs 
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Cc: John and Maryann Read 
Subject: Stus-List 34 genoa sheets



Am replacing genoa sheets but uncertain of correct size.   Currently use ½ inch 
but seem a bit oversize.  Plan to get Sta set or similar with soft shackle.  
What size do other 34 / 33 owners use?





John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C 34

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Re: Stus-List 34 genoa sheets

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Check out Cajun ropes awesome prices and good rope
https://www.facebook.com/CajunRopes/?ref=br_rs



Rod



From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of John and Maryann
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Subject: Stus-List 34 genoa sheets



Am replacing genoa sheets but uncertain of correct size.   Currently use ½
inch but seem a bit oversize.  Plan to get Sta set or similar with soft
shackle.  What size do other 34 / 33 owners use?





John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C 34

Noank, CT







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Re: Stus-List Mast Wedge Help

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Anyone have any problem with the Spartite  stick against the mast collar
when hauling the mast out?

 

Rod Stright

Halifax

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Neil Andersen
via CnC-List
Sent: February-07-19 12:40 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Neil Andersen 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Wedge Help

 

My 32 had wedges and 2 metal straps the bolt on to the mast.

 

Neil

C 32 FoxFire

 

Neil Andersen

20691 Jamieson Rd

Rock Hall, MD 21661

 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:29 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: Bill Coleman
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Wedge Help 

 

Buy a can of Spartite, forget the wedges.

 

Bill Coleman

C 39 Erie, PA

 

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Demore via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 9:58 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: Steven A. Demore
Subject: Stus-List Mast Wedge Help

 

I had my C 30 MK1 dismasted yesterday to do some work on it.  The boat
came with no wedges in the deck collar, so I made some one day, just to get
through summer.  While taking down the mast yesterday, I asked the rigger
what kind of wedges it should have.  He said he wasn't sure whether C
came with wedges, or a metal spacer.  Does anybody know what the factory
used to support the mast through the deck?

Also, while I am at it. Any suggestions on anything I should be checking on
the mast?  I'm replacing the wiring, going to LED lights, replacing all of
the running rigging, new blocks and sheaves, and checking out the step.  The
boom has the internal blocks and wire for tensioning the foot of the main,
but I don't know whether that is accessible for maintenance or not.

 

One last thing.  I was planning to mount steps (the triangular aluminum
ones) on the sides of the mast.  The rigger recommended against it because
of the number of holes in the mast.  Anybody have thought on whether a
series of small holes (1/8, 3/16??) would weaken the mast?

Thanks,

Steve



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Stus-List Wanted lightly used racing main

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Looking for a lightly used racing mainsail for club racing luff max 40’ foot 
max 13’ in good condition.  Maybe you quit racing



Contact Rod at strig...@eastlink.ca   no need to 
bother everyone on the list.







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Re: Stus-List 1974 36 mk2 questions

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

In my view, although older, the C 35 Mark 2 is a great all round boat.  We 
won our class in the Marblehead to Halifax Ocean race in light airs, and on the 
trip down in strong headwinds and rough seas, the flare forward kept the bow 
from submarining into the waves when much larger boats couldn’t cope and had to 
motor sail much slower.  The flare also deflected the waves back down into the 
sea making for a much dryer ride than other boats.  A lot of room below 
compared to the 35 mark 1 (3 feet longer on the waterline as I recall).  Very 
well built hull, decks may have some soft spots but overall they seem to have 
stood up fairly well.



Good luck!!



Rod Stright

C 99

Halifax



From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of dwight veinot via 
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Sent: January-10-19 5:55 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: dwight veinot 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1974 36 mk2 questions



Have you used the sailing calculator under technical info on the cncphoto album 
site. It allows u to compare boats by the numbers. I have found it very useful



On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 12:59 AM Shawn Wright via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hi Steve,



Thanks for the info. I've talked to brokers, but there are so few listings 
around here that they don't have anything to show me. I have visited and walked 
every dock within a 2 hour drive from here, but being on an island, that's not 
a lot of boats, even with cruising grounds in our backyard. There are new 
private listings starting to appear every day now, but nothing new at the 
brokers yet. The problem is I have not nailed down what I want yet, so the 
boats that have interested me are hugely varied, and usually just out of my 
price range - like Westsail 32, Nicholson 35, CS 36T. The CS 36T I have not 
been on board, but there are 5 of them nearby, and the interior photos I've 
seen look great, but it's about double my budget, so I'm now considering the CS 
30, but they are much less common here. Lots of C, but anything over 27' is 
usually asking too much, like $30K+. I even looked at Catalina 30...



The only C 32 listed here currently is asking $40K, and the broker says it's 
because the wife says sell, but the husband doesn't want to, so he won't drop 
the price...

There are a ton of C here (at WestPort in Sidney they are more common that 
Catalinas) but the prices seem higher than most places.



I do need to get on board a few more C to get a feel for them, as I have 
only been on the 26, 35-2 and 37 so far. And yes, a diesel is a must. Trouble 
is, I want a decent light air boat that can also handle rough seas that we will 
sea at times, especially north of Desolation Sound. And that usually means at 
least 32', which is a challenge to get for $20-25K CAD.



But I am learning at lot along the way. :)



Thanks



On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 6:23 AM Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Shawn, talk to some brokers and look at their boats is my advice.



This reminds me of a guy who came out to buy a hatchback I was selling 
recently. The guy drove over an hour out to the countryside where we live to 
look at the car, and to try his kid seat in it. It didn't end up fitting how he 
liked. He would have saved both of us a lot of time if he had just gone to a 
used car lot and done his decision making there. Likewise, you can learn a lot 
walking the docks and talking to other boat owners, or calling on brokers and 
seeing their boats. Those folks are literally paid to show boats. Get your 
short list figured out, buy the first boat that meets your requirements and 
price point. Go sailing.



For what it's worth. This is why I priced my boat low when I sold it, and went 
through a broker. Quick sale, and only the serious buyers will make the effort. 
First guy who looked at it, bought it. Had to rip the bandage off, it was a 
hard decision.



Sorry if my earlier message sounded full of crankitude - I'm boatless, and 
jealous :)



If you're looking at boats in those size ranges, I REALLY loved my C 32. And 
they tend to be priced lower for whatever reason, they're not great PHRF boats 
and it seems around here that's what matters. They are a great handling, and 
sailing boat that one can cruise on in comfort, though. Mine was a 1980, later 
ones came with diesels, mine had an A4. Purchased for 18k, sold for 25k five 
years later (and many, many boat bucks of investment and hours of work later - 
and cruises all over Lake Ontario and Georgian Bay). I sold a turn-key boat 
with new sails, solar panels, electrical, plumbing, etc etc etc.



FWIW



Steve





On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 5:57 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hello all,



Had a look at the 35 mk2 in Victoria, and while it will be a great boat for 
someone, we've decided it's just not for us. There is a lot of value in recent 
upgrades, but the quality of workmanship is not quite what I'd like to see, and 
there is a bit too much complexity in 

Stus-List Stair Treads and companion way finishes

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Has anyone recently refinished companion way stair treads and teak?  If so
what stood up best?  Has anyone used the fairly New Petit Sea Gold finish?
It has good PR from Petit but I have seen a few reviews indicating it did
not stand up well in exposed locations.  Best recommended finish for cherry
on interior bulkheads and trim?

 

Regards

Rod Stright

C 99 2004

 



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Re: Stus-List 1996 C's

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Yes that was her because I was on board Silent Partner when I had my C 41 in 
the Caribbean in the fall/winter of 2004/2005.  I forget the owner’s name, 
really nice guy, he and his wife were running charters with the boat then, my 
wife was impressed as they had a washer and dryer on board



Rod



From: Ken Heaton 
Sent: January-01-19 4:02 PM
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Rod Stright 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1996 C's



" I was there about a year after the fire . . .  There was also a 51’ hull that 
was fine as well.  "



That must have been the hull that become 'Silent Partner II', a C 51 that was 
finished from a hull spared by the fire, with the finishing work completed at 
the Wiggers Yard in Ontario, Canada, and was launched in 1997.



Reference: https://books.google.ca/books?id=COilQT7iWTgC 
<https://books.google.ca/books?id=COilQT7iWTgC=PP1845=PP1845=%22C%26C+51%22=bl=f1LViZ-uBb=5rY194uxgtQpguivNbaucTDJIHE=en=X=2ahUKEwiD14XxtL3fAhVNmlkKHQkjCCA4ChDoATADegQIBRAB#v=onepage=%22C%26C%2051%22=false>
 
=PP1845=PP1845=%22C%26C+51%22=bl=f1LViZ-uBb=5rY194uxgtQpguivNbaucTDJIHE=en=X=2ahUKEwiD14XxtL3fAhVNmlkKHQkjCCA4ChDoATADegQIBRAB#v=onepage=%22C%26C%2051%22=false



and: 
http://used-boats-forsale.blogspot.com/2012/10/52-c-c-custom-wiggers-52-3-cabin-1997.html



Ken H.





On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 at 15:27, Rod Stright via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I was there about a year after the fire and they were trying to sell a 37 
kevlar  hull that was fine.  There was also a 51’ hull that was fine as well.  
As I recall they wound up chopping up the 37’ hull.  The hulls that were out of 
the mould were recessed into cavities in the floor so they were a lot easier to 
work on so there was minimal damage to those boats partially finished hulls.  
Deck moulds were all destroyed as far as I recall.



Rod Stright

Halifax



Rod



From: CnC-List mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> > On Behalf Of T Sutton via CnC-List
Sent: January-01-19 3:15 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: T Sutton mailto:t.sut...@bmts.com> >
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1996 C's



I am also under the impression that the fire destroyed some of the deck molds 
and that’s why these three boats in question have the stepped transom as 
opposed to the fold out ladder transom.  It also looks like the forward hatch 
is not recessed into the fore deck like the earlier boats and just sits on top 
and possibly a little further aft but it’s a little hard to tell from pictures. 
 Didn’t South Shore also have a 37 XL for sale a couple years ago that must 
have been a late model as I think it had the stepped transom as well.



Happy New  Years all,



Tom S



From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List

Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 7:07 PM

To: cnc-list

Cc: Ken Heaton ; Tom Buscaglia

Subject: Re: Stus-List 1996 C?



Apparently a few hulls (of different sizes) and some parts survived the fire, 
so they were able to complete some boats.  The company (Then C International 
Yachts Ltd.) didn't actually shut down completely until some time in 1996.



For the 34/36 the following are in the US Coast Guard Database:




Hull No.

Vessel Name:

Former Names:

Build Year:

Primary Vessel Number (VIN):

Alternate VINs:

HIN

77 WATER PHANTOM 1994

D1031151 ZCC36077E495

78 PATRIOT

1994 1037533 (Official Number (U.S.)) ZCC36078A494

79 THUNDER 1995 1040632 (Official Number (U.S.)) ZCC36079H596

81 PHOENIX 1994 1031452 (Official Number (U.S.)) ZCC36081J495

87 DISCOVER II 1996 833528

ZCC36087A696

91 AQUARIUS 1996 1045701 (Official Number (U.S.)) ZCC36091C696

93 LADY'S CHOICE PUKALANI 1996

1047737 (Official Number (U.S.))

ZCC36093F696



As another example, Silent Partner II, a C 51, was finished from a hull 
produced by C and spared by the fire, with the finishing work completed at 
the Wiggers Yard in Ontario, Canada, and was launched in 1997.



Reference: https://books.google.ca/books?id=COilQT7iWTgC 
<https://books.google.ca/books?id=COilQT7iWTgC=PP1845=PP1845=%22C%26C+51%22=bl=f1LViZ-uBb=5rY194uxgtQpguivNbaucTDJIHE=en=X=2ahUKEwiD14XxtL3fAhVNmlkKHQkjCCA4ChDoATADegQIBRAB#v=onepage=%22C%26C%2051%22=false>
 
=PP1845=PP1845=%22C%26C+51%22=bl=f1LViZ-uBb=5rY194uxgtQpguivNbaucTDJIHE=en=X=2ahUKEwiD14XxtL3fAhVNmlkKHQkjCCA4ChDoATADegQIBRAB#v=onepage=%22C%26C%2051%22=false



and: 
http://used-boats-forsale.blogspot.com/2012/10/52-c-c-custom-wiggers-52-3-cabin-1997.html



Happy New Year !



Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia



 <https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.ca/p/salazar.html> 
https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.ca/p/salazar.html



On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 at 21:50, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I was perusing the C inventory on Yachtworld and saw three different boats 
listed as 1996 36 XL.  They arer clearly 34+/36s.  But I didn't thin