Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> IT IS NEITHER! > > It is called universal or one payer healthcare. > > Nothing socialistic about it. Then that word does not mean what you think it means. I'm out of this discussion at this point. It has devolved into the usual partisan nonsense. If leftists have any sense, they'll read and

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> We ain't govmuent then whats be we? I don't work in a labor camp. I'm > not forced into an army. Hell I'm not even made to feed the chickens. > Damn, how did this govment I'm not a part of get so out of control? > > By the way, next time you feel we aren't all the government, lets se

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> Where are you getting this nonsense? What part of "option" won't flow > through your head? I'd recommend using a hammer, but then you'd have > to use your insurance. That is if you have insurance. > Option means optional. Wham, wham, wham. Bang your head against the > wall a few more

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> Once again I have to point out government programs aren't created and > meant to make a profit. Ya think? How about if they break even? That would be a hoot. * ** List info, subscription management, list rul

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> I find it funny that when "liberals" want change its called socialism > or pandering to people with hands out. While when neocons call for > change it's fanatical renegade John Wynism (I just made that up). Nah, it's pretty much socialism when the Stupid Party does it too. > I don'

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> Whjy are you afraid of a choice between the private insurers and a government > program? I said: choice. Private insurers can't print money or tax their customers when times get tight. You can't "compete" with the govt. "Choice" with the state is a bug, not a feature. If the issue are person

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> Hmmm, coach healthcare and then first class healthcare if I'm willing > to pay for it. What a concept. Sounds like you're describing the UK's DHS or Canada's Medicare to a T. * ** List info, subscription management,

Re: [CGUYS] Insurance and National Security [was: Intensive care unit]

> There's no free market. Never has been. Get over it. Deal with the > economy as it exists, not in some utopian, fear-inspired fantasy. Good > health, quality education, a stable economy with manufacturing, and a > clean environment are as important to our security as diplomacy and our > military.

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> This is a terrible comparison. But if you must, the airline travel > industry has also gone to hell. I don't know how much you fly, but > it's miserable today as compared to 20 years ago I fly a couple of times a year. It's OK. What I do know is that it's no longer only a tool for the bu

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> She said "we", she didn't say you. We aren't including you. So don't > bother voting next election. It won't be counted. You're not included. > Oh, we'll still be taking SS out of your paycheck. Probably L&I as > well, but you aren't part of our government. Wow, how freeing that > must feel

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> If you encounter someone who is hungry and you don't feed them you are > not being nice. > If you encounter someone who is homeless and you don't shelter them > you are not being nice. > If you encounter someone who is bleeding to death and you don't help > them you are a criminal. > > Tell us a

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> You mean like when we got rid of the laws that required local banking? > That worked very well. Didn't it? > > If you look for banks that did not get caught in the sub-prime fiasco > you will find that these were banks run by local bankers who knew who > and what was getting the loan. You will a

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> Did you see the Time cover story about cheap food? This is another > issue that Americans will have to face up to. Corporate farmers are > polluting our world and serving up food from diseased animals. Our > food is so strongly laced with antibiotics that they are breeding new > strains of drug-r

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> As one with family from Cuba and some friends remaining, I can assure > you that Jeff W. has no idea about Cuba, considering his comments. It's > their health care insurance system and outcomes that are better than > ours, not the high tech gadgets and expensive doctors. The Cuban > government, t

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> > Sounds like paradise.  Why aren't you living there? > > I was just waiting for the old "love it or leave it" bullshit to > start. Why can't an intelligent and respectful conversation take > place without descending into the pit of old worn out saws such as > that? Really? You saw love or

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> I'm behind on my email, but one problem is that anymore > there are few actual insurance companies. The big ones keep > buying the smaller ones to limit competition. Compare a list of airline companies from 1980, shortly after the airlines were deregulated, and compare that list to today. I th

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> We are the government. We shouldn't be afraid, just because some > corporations want us to fear. Fear the corporate databases, not the > government. Thanks for the larf, Betty. Good one! * ** List info, subscription man

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> For what it is worth, Cuba has one of the best, if not the overall > best health care system in the world. Check out the world's health > statistics and see for yourself. Marcio can speak to this issue I am > sure. > > Cuba is one poor as hell nation, and the Cuban health care system is >

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> This is one subspecialty that is also elective surgery. Now say the > same thing about cardiac stints, hernia surgery etc. Yes, I understand that. It's one of the better analogs for demonstrating that the medical industry can deliver quality care with cost awareness. Why wouldn't it work for

Re: [CGUYS] Twitter vulnerable - unless you're using IE8

But, how does it fare under the single payer attack? Have the other browsers mitigated the bitten finger exploit? > -Original Message- > > I apologize in advance for the computer-related post. > > Security researcher Brian Mastenbrook uncovered a cross-site scripting > vulnerability in

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> Not so.. in the political process you have a vote and your representatives. In a market process, I have much, much more than that. I have hundreds of development companies to choose from for a home in my area and no less than 8 different grocery stores chains/companies, who all want my busine

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> Ok, and you have a problem with this why? I think I've already explained this very clearly. > Do you really hate the poor that much? Oh yes. They're easily overcooked and can get very chewy if you don't watch them carefully. > I was mostly talking about the option everyone seem

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> OK on the Mackey thing. Yes I did read it, and he has some great > things to say, HOWEVER. > > You must have government mandate minimums. If they do not many > companies will try and fly through with a bunch of worthless insurance. > > Instead of removing mandates, make them nation wide. At

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> Roads are a given? And they're constitutionally provided? Where? > Please post that part of the constitution for me. Oh fer cryin...You DO know how to use a search engine, right? 5th Amendment, takings clause, US Constitution. No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> I was taught many years ago, that the more doctors you have in a > region the higher the prices. Doctors do not compete, they judge one > another on the amount they make. So if one doctor raises prices, all > of them will to stay even. > > Could you imagine what would happen if Doctors adverti

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> No, you don't. The single payer plan, which is an option. No where > have I seen it written or said by it's proponents that it would be > required of everyone. Jeff, that IS the single defining component of single payer. NO ONE else is paying other than the guvmint, which is kinda the point of

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> I think the right to purchase and get Insurance is a right! Sorry, but you are inventing rights out of the whole cloth. Did you read the Mackey op-ed Rev? Full of ideas that we should be looking into. Perhaps then you kids won't have issues of getting insurance.

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> But you pay for us (USA) to have a military, public security, wars... roads > and much more. Are you being coerced?...Or...you are sharing?... The military is provided for explicitly in the US Constitution. Roads are a given and again, are constitutionally provided, and with all due respect, *

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> Why do so many believe this health OPTION would be forced on them? > What part of the word OPTION do these people not understand? Do I need to point you to videos of Obama advocating a single payer plan or to the current proponents who have proposed the same over the years? This is a stal

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> I pay less the $200/mo for food. Never really thought about food > costs being high. Of course no one is this household is obese. And we > eat steak twice a week. Chicken, pork and fish make up the other days. I didn't say that food was expensive. I said I pay more on the 2 items that we

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> The beauty of the Single Payer is that we all will > share the risks. Isn´t this one of the reasons that we live in society? That's what insurance is: risk pooling. It's also something I engage by choice, not coercion. I don't choose to be live in a society to be compelled, by the threat of f

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> Everyone shots themselves in the foot sometimes. > > Sometimes better than others. > > The government is not perfect but neither are we. > > Capitalism is not perfect either. > > There are some things better handle under the capitalist strategy and > other things not. I find it odd that peop

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> Again very disingenuous. > > You can make a choice in housing very simply. You either find a > house within your income bracket or you move. > > Cant afford Steak, buy chicken and ground beef. > > Been there done that. You miss my point, Rev. I expect that of Tom, but you? We are being tol

Re: [CGUYS] Do Typographers Despise M$?

> "The 2010 IKEA catalog, now arriving at doorsteps around the world, > reveals the company's choice to change all typography to the Microsoft > font..." > http://idsgn.org/posts/ikea-says-goodbye-to-futura/ Bingo! We have a winner. "IKEA spokeswoman Camilla Meiby responds to AP (Aug 31, 2009):

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> This is standard wing-nut strategy to make government look bad. Of course. The guvmint never does anything to look bad. It's all a vast, right-wing conspiracy to undermine their natural efficiency. * ** List info, subsc

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> DHL is going out of business because it was doing a terrible job. The > foreign owners seemed unable to put an effective management team in > place in the USA. Their service was horribly unreliable. Instead of > working harder at fixing the problem they just decided to give up. > The German stock

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> I appreciate your faith. I guess the most distressing part of the > whole affair is seeing the wing nuts so ready to sell out their > country for a sack of gold. They support the ultra-rich insurance > barons, the M$s, the Comcasts, etc. and give the shiv to their fellow > citizens. I'm really d

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> > Don't bother arguing with this bunch. What they have inflicted on this > > List in recent months is much like what the USA has had inflicted on it > > in recent weeks of wild attacks against rational health care. I don't > > know if you have been following any of this from afar, doctor, but it

[CGUYS] Snow Leopard downgrades security and misses opportunity to improve

http://www.sophos.com/blogs/chetw/g/2009/09/02/snow-leopard-downgrades-secur ity-misses-opportunity-improve/ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Minions Rush to the Ramparts

> > Mike--You're forgetting Tom's Rule of Social Intercourse #1: > > Everyone else is quite stupid. > > Definitely not everyone by a long shot, but I think those of you who > are truly retarded have been plainly identified. > > However, I will not accept that you are hopeless cases and will > pers

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Minions Rush to the Ramparts

> Those were your deep conclusions not theirs. I can't help if you can't > even read the links you post. Mike--You're forgetting Tom's Rule of Social Intercourse #1: Everyone else is quite stupid. Everything flows from that. **

Re: [CGUYS] Guys and GPS

> That claim might have been true when Garmins, Tom Toms and the like were > a geek toy, but would you care to explain why most GPS units default to > a female voice? I don't know about yours, but my TomTom has Homer Simpson as the voice. I bought that one, but TomToms have several standard voi

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

> > America has its Dick Cheney. CGUYS has Chris Dunford. > > What an ignorant comment that is... No, Chris, run with it. Ask Tom to go hunting. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** *

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update i.e. IE 6, 7, 8

Nope, to all 3. > -Original Message- > Has anyone had trouble with Windows Update, when using any of those > versions? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness,

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Google-Bashing Dirty Tricks

> "This is textbook Microsoft," the source adds. "Microsoft has got some > of the best, highest-priced lobbyists that money can buy in Washington." Textbook? Hardly. MS didn't have any lobbyists until they were sued by the DOJ in the 90's in collusion with MS competitors whose lobbyists were dee

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Turns Black to White

> This is true, and, as a Mac user all my computing life, I've noticed this and > felt quite uncomfortable about it.  The sense of community is rather skewered > toward white reps and users; entertainers of other ethnic origin qualify as > emblems only (eg Macy Gray). Even then, they have probl

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

> Apple is making a big push on drivers and beefing up its software > update process to include more drivers. In SL when you add a new > peripheral, software update will go out and look for drivers. I guess I don't have to point out that Windows has been doing this since *at least* 2002 with the r

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Turns Black to White

> http://thedailyvoice.com/voice/2009/08/microsoft-002225.php > > Those miracle workers in Redmond have had a busy day. What will they > think of next? Apple will never have to worry about such things, considering how their ads are unfailingly stuffed with lily-white actors. It's like a 1950's N

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

> A client of mine got the 64-bit version of Windows Vista on his new > computer and was no longer able to use his adaptive Keyboard (which by > itself costs $395). I went to the website today and it still does not > have 64-bit version. You'd think for a $400 peripheral, he would have made that

Re: [CGUYS] One Upmanship

> Windows 7 Ultimate can support up to 192 GB of RAM. Less expensive > versions of Windows can go fish. > > Snow Leopard can support a staggering 16 Tbytes. 1 TB of 2 GB 1066MHz DDR3 ECC memory modules from Apple will cost you $50,000. 16 TB will cost $800,000. The good news is that shipping is

Re: [CGUYS] "Postcard" virus

It's an old hoax. Consider getting a new friend. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Jordan wrote: > Has anyone gotten a warning or seen anything about the "Postcard" virus? A > friend of mine forwarded a big panic about not opening anything in an email > entitled Postcard. > As a Mac user I guess g

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

> Vista's problem wasn't 64 or 32bit related it was that drivers were not > written for vista until it had been out nearly a year. You can blame this > on MS only in that they may have not given the code to software writers soon > enough. I don't even blame MS for that. The Vista beta's were o

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

> My understanding of the Mess Vista got introduced to was yes it was > MS not releasing code and not allowing coders access to needed knowledge. > > I remember a few of the antivirus folks complaining quite publicly about this. > > Seems that they did a lot more work with 7. The anti-virus folk

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

Mark is correct. 4 GB is a physical limitation of 32-bit kernels, which is the best reason to go 64-bit: no real limitation to the amount of RAM you can use, other than what the motherboard will support. However, I can recall when 32-bit came around in the 90's, "Wow! 4 GB of RAM! We'll never s

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

> Now you are being silly just to prove a point. Most people do not dual > boot and may who try find themselves in a world of pain. As if you have a point. Who cares if "most people don't?" Most people don't use Macs, but that doesn't stop you from using them. You can dual boot between 32 and

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

> Sure is a huge difference. Reinstalling Windows is not quick and will > probably mess up many installed apps. Not something that is done > lightly. Definitely not something you would want to switch back and > forth. You can dual boot with 32-bit and 64-bit versions. I know people who do it now.

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

> No matter how you slice and dice it, the fact remains that Vista and Win7 are > fully 64-bit out of the box, including the kernel. I don't have any problem > with Macs, but I do love how you manage to > claim that defaulting to the 32-bit version of a critical component is somehow > a big advanta

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

> Nope they don't get paid until it is shipped! Did not order through > MS, ordered through merchants who cannot charge until it is shipped., "Who's on first?" is very important to Tom. Humor him and maybe he'll shut up about it. "Good show old boy! Maybe next time is when we catch the weasel

Re: [CGUYS] WSJ.com | Why AT&T Killed Google Voice

> I have at least as much experience with Apple products as your so-called > tech site. There are NO real inside connections with Apple, except where > Apple allows. As soon as there are leaks, the leaker[s] is/are fired. > Industrial espionage is serious business. I still have a cousin who > works

Re: [CGUYS] Logmein

> LogMeIn is easy as cake... a great tool. Web based it takes all the > tech out of setting up VNC / remote desktop login etc. > > The Free version does most of all you want. No SFTP or printing to the > controlling computer that you get with Pro. I use LogMeIn Free for supporting all of our la

Re: [CGUYS] WSJ.com | Why AT&T Killed Google Voice

> Time for a REAL reality check. Apple has rejected many apps that it > later accepted. They're not lying. They're being cautious. Apple > developers prefer to delay a questionable app until it will work nicely > with other apps and the OS. Google Voice does neither. They'll work it > out like they

Re: [CGUYS] WSJ.com | Why AT&T Killed Google Voice

> Fortunately there were many other posts that were > thoughtful about this very interesting situation. TomLogik(t) Not thoughtful = Objective reality. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privac

Re: [CGUYS] WSJ.com | Why AT&T Killed Google Voice

> So if you are using Google voice across the data plan as you describe > does that essentially free you from the expensive daytime minutes > restriction? I don't know the specific details. You'd have to contact TM. > Can you get a cell phone with a data plan AND WITHOUT a talk plan? Soon, you

Re: [CGUYS] WSJ.com | Why AT&T Killed Google Voice

> It is about profits. Trust me, the only thing that matters is rhe > money. Oh, no question. I wasn't suggesting otherwise. > If a product is good it will stand on its own. Agreed. * ** List info, subscription manageme

Re: [CGUYS] WSJ.com | Why AT&T Killed Google Voice

> Apple's response to the DOJ inquiry looks a lot more plausible than > the explanations proffered by the conspiracy theorists. In a > nutshell, adding Google Voice to an iPhone significantly changes the > operation of the iPhone. It replaces so many of the iPhone's > functions that it left Apple w

Re: [CGUYS] WSJ.com | Why AT&T Killed Google Voice

> I posted two different articles about the same issue. I give very little > credence to anything on the editorial page of the WSJ, but it's > certainly provocative--and narrow-minded. Consider the header, using > "Kill" instead of a more accurate description. AT&T isn't dying, it's > SBC, an inces

Re: [CGUYS] WSJ.com | Why AT&T Killed Google Voice

> Apple's response to the DOJ inquiry looks a lot more plausible than > the explanations proffered by the conspiracy theorists. In a > nutshell, adding Google Voice to an iPhone significantly changes the > operation of the iPhone. It replaces so many of the iPhone's > functions that it left Apple w

Re: [CGUYS] Slow Dell startup

> Yeah, it's not that kind of flashy light. It's the "power on" light in the > center of the power button. It starts out flashing on and off slowly, then > ramps up so that it's flashing faster and faster > until it finally boots. There's no sequence that you could interpret as a > code. Interesti

Re: [CGUYS] Slow Dell startup

Chris--What model is it? The flashy light is likely a trouble code. > -Original Message- > I've got an older Dell that hasn't been used much for a year or so, but now I > need it. It works fine, but after I hit the power button it takes a couple of > minutes before it starts the boot proc

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

> You completely ignore the question I asked and substitute a straw-man > in its stead. Quite intellectually dishonest. I didn't ignore your idiotic and pointless jingoism. You should be flattered. > Of course you don't want to discuss if such applications will run in > the Zune HD. Go nuts. T

Re: [CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

> John C. Dvorak was going off about this on the No Agenda podcast he does > with Adam Curry. Curry is a little too tinfoil hat for my tastes but can be > amusing in his paranoia. #121 is all about questioning the credentials of > our nations CIOs. > > http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/12/speci

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

> The old argument "Everybody's doing it so why can't I?" You saw an argument in there? You saw a defense of making exaggerated claims? Not to worry, I'm sure chronic paranoia will be covered under O-Care. > In truth, reviewers report Apple's estimates to be quite conservative. I've seen the o

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

> TWO OUT OF TWO TOMS AGREE... > "The comment is derived from a general consensus by analysts that > Microsoft's portable media player missed its mark, and doesn't look > to gain any ground in its battle against Apple's iPhone and iPod > Touch anytime soon." We all know that market analysts are *

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

> OKAY WFBs, EDUCATE ME. CAN THE ZUNE HD DO THIS TOO? > > ""With TomTom for iPhone, millions of iPhone users can now benefit > from the same easy-to-use and intuitive interface, turn-by-turn > spoken navigation and unique routing technology that our 30 million > portable navigation device users re

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

> Now tell me, doesn't this business sound the least bit suspicious to > you? I believe I already stated that both mfrs make exaggerated claims on battery life, at least that's what I've seen from reports of field testing the battery life on the Touch. ***

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

> Perhaps so, but radio stations most certainly use the quality thing > to convince listeners that they should invest in HD radio receivers. > Whadda ya think HD is an abbreviation for? Certainly nothing to do > with content. The "HD" in HD Radio stands for hybrid digital, not high definition.

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

> It is expensive to do this. It is expensive in terms of real estate > on an Ipod to store uncompressed files. But it can be done. > > The solutions are far less portable. Which is why I'm glad that I'm not an audiophile. What is important to me is that I can take my music and podcasts with m

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

> Battery life: > I said *advertised* battery life and I'm sticking with that. The HD > numbers you quote comes from something MS reportedly sent > to engadget. However, MS's own store as of a few minutes ago > says 24 hours audio, 4 hours video: >

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

> I think Sarah Palin joined the List under an assumed name. The Zune Panel has noted your opinion. Thank you for participating in this public forum. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

> Note that our WFBs are now manufacturing false posts to further their > evil disinformation campaign. BWAHAHAHAHA! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

> > Where is the zune HD behind on the touch? > > Well, there's: > > Screen size (Zune HD) vs. (iPod Touch) 3.3" vs. 3.5" Will you really notice? > advertised battery life Music: 33 hours vs. 36 hours Video: 8.5 hours vs. 6 hours The OLED tech comes through here. > Bluetooth No word either

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

> -Original Message- > From: TPiwowar > > I'll stick with my own bigotry, ignorance and confirmation bias. FTFY Mac zealots. The best free advertising Microsoft can have. * ** List info, subscription management, l

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

> I know I'm nitpicking... That's all that really needed to be said. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *

Re: [CGUYS] disk tool..can't recall the name

Treesize Pro or WinDirStat. > -Original Message- > I've got two drives, identical hardware, one is a direct copy/backup of the > other. The internal one shows 20 gigs less then the external backup. This > after running the sync, running defrag and error checking the the drives. > > There

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

> So first you want to compare it to the first gen ipod touch that are > refurb...now you want to compare them to unreleased ipod touches... Those goal posts aren't going to move themselves, you know! * ** List info, subscr

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

> A thought. They hope to win market share by undercutting Apple's > current price, but are introducing a model that is technically > several years behind Apple's current models. [citation needed] Notice how my post said nothing at all about iPod's, it simply extolled how nice the Zune HD was, ye

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Offers to Pay "Buckets" for Zune Apps

> Great justice in that. > > In the 90's MS extorted from Apple the copy write privilege to sell > Win95 by threat of dropping Office for the Mac. Now Apple has MS over a > barrel. > > I say go fish! Funny that, even though I have no idea to what exactly you reference above. Give it a few min

[CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

Pretty friggin awesome. Very zippy. Very smooth. http://gizmodo.com/5337532/zune-hd-tv-interface-makes-it-a-media-center-for- your-pocket * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** *

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

> > A desperate attempt to get this back on topic. I thought this would be a terrific way of ending this thread. http://tinyurl.com/qy67o3 That kind of grouping may violate the warranty. I hope you like Arcade Fire. * *

[CGUYS] Google allowing users to opt-out

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/google_opt_out_feature_lets_users?utm_ source=videoembed http://tinyurl.com/ltfvaj * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a mem

[CGUYS] Just try to do this with your precious Airbook

Go ahead, I dare you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiNaadVOQEM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ecrunchgea r%2Ecom%2Fpage%2F2%2F&feature=player_embedded#t=30 http://tinyurl.com/q4ztmq * ** List info, subscription management, list

Re: [CGUYS] price drop?

> Appleinsider is reporting that the 32gig zune could be as much as 100 > dollars less then the 32gig touch. This could be good news even for MS > haters like Tom. Though the zune takes very little market share, this could > be enough to push apple into lowering the price of the touch..good news

Re: [CGUYS] off topic nonsense

> I've avoided this discussion, but... Me too. If I want that kind of needless pain, I'll hit myself in the head with a hammer. Repeatedly. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** po

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

> Not true at all. They buy guns by the dozen, legally (because it is > so easy in VA) and then sell them in DC (illegally). Why should they > bother to do something illegally when it is so easy to do in legally? I thought we weren't going to have this discussion? ***

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

> If you check the Wild List you will see that there are 100s of > active, circulating viruses that can attack Windows and we have to > add anti-virus software to watch for them. Tom likes this metric because it says what he wants it to say. It has no real meaning, but oo, is it scary soundin

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

> Being a free-market Capitalist You owe me a new monitor. This one has a spit-take all over it. > I would have to insist that it is a > management responsibility to navigate through such rough waters. And they do, but not as the status quo. Hard choices are made quite often, to ensure the per

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

> Yes, bad management tends to be a problem. Ya think? Is this your flow chart? Bad management? > Yes | | V Yes Non-profits can have funding issues for all sorts of reasons aside from management. Changes in city or state administrations can change funding p

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

> There are two ways to handle budget problems. Therein lies your problem: a total and complete lack of vision. The real world isn't binary. > I'll leave it to our sad sack WFBs to struggle with doing less with > less. We do just fine, since we don't have to pay the Apple tax. **

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

> It is interesting that in your mind "interface is at worst just fine" > translates into "matches iPod touch". To me though, it says that > the interface is manageable with a connotation that it is not great, > which matches the impressions I've gathered. But you are right > that I should've let

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

> Reviewers are already commenting that "HD" is false advertising. To > display HD it requires a dock (sold separately) and an HD TV (also > sold separately). There's an app for that. * ** List info, subscription managemen

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