Re: [CGUYS] Expanding Network
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, tjpa wrote: On Feb 18, 2010, at 6:47 PM, David D Odell wrote: I have 2 routers sitting around unused (Linksys BEFSR41 - 4 port plus WAN and uplink ports) and a Linksys EFAHO5W - 5 port plus Uplink). Is there a practical way to use the other routers to expand my total number of available ports or would I be better off just buying a larger router? Yes, you could program the router to act as a switch. Or the lazy way (what I would do) is to ignore the uplink/WAN ports and just use the 4/5 ports to interconnect your additional devices. Yes, I would go the lazy way also. Free up a couple ports on the real router (the one really connected to the Internet). Then run cables from those ports you just freed up to local (non-uplink) ports on the other routers. You should then have 7 more ports (3 on BEFSR41 and 4 on EFAO5W) to use for other devices... including the 2 computers you had to disconnect from the real router. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Fred Holmes wrote: The death panel is a Democratic Party concept. Only the name came from the Republicans. The Democrats had the concept buried in the Health Care bill in very obscure language, but they didn't succeed in hiding it from the public. Wow! Does _everyone_ wear those tinfoil hats on your planet? -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Physical vs. Virtual
On Sat, 19 Dec 2009, Reid Katan wrote: Quoting Michael Fernando michael@gmail.com: Option 3: Please suggest. (I must run 64-bit OSes, at least as the host OS, to take advantage of all 4Gigs of memory, correct?) Thanks in advance for suggestions/opinions. Other than the streaming video that requires IE can you do all your other video watching in Ubuntu? I guess I'd suggest you virtualize Windows for the few(?) times you need IE. Then complain like a mutha' to the offending site(s). They shouldn't be dictating your browser choices like that (which, I guess, you already know :-). I've found MPlayer can play almost all videos I need to play including downloaded flash videos from Youtube. And since he mentioned VLC, he shouldn't forget that VLC is available on Linux as well as Windows, though I personally have had better luck using Xine to play DVDs on Linux. The only times I've run into places where I couldn't play video on Linux is the ABC website which must be using their own player, which refuses to install if it doesn't detect Windows. So, I suppose a Windows VM would work there. As for 64-bit, that might be wise in general, but if you're worried about compatibility, you could use the 32-bit/PAE kernel. Not sure if Ubuntu has one, but I'm using one on my old Fedora 8 machine with 4GB of RAM. On the other hand, if all you need Linux for is administrating remote servers, you could have a pure Windows machine, with Putty for SSH and Xming (http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/) for X display. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Java C++ - Quickest way to learn
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009, Paul Meyer wrote: Old topic, I know but I am cleaning out my folders. Basic and Fortran are very different animals from object oriented languages. Books on design patterns in those languages will really get you to understand why o-o is useful. C++ FAQ is a greatly educative and easier to read book. C# is pretty once you know C++. Actually, I'd say C# is closer to Java than it is to C++. With maybe a dash of Object-C thrown in (properties as part of classes). - Original Message From: Allen Firstenberg cg...@addventure.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Mon, May 18, 2009 3:18:06 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Java C++ - Quickest way to learn Java has always been easy to learn since they have always given both the compiler and a set of tutorials away. Not to mention that the API documentation is also publicly (and freely) available. The tutorials (called the trails) are available at http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/ I have never found a book that does any better, and many are substantially worse. Keep in mind that Java is... huge. Beyond the language itself there are truly a massive number of libraries, APIs, specifications, and editions (and implementations of same) that are available and which some people will assume you know. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Michael Drabick m.drab...@hdhcci.comwrote: I am looking for the quickest way to get up to speed on these two programing languages, as I have become one of the victims of this troubled economy. I have been to a few Job fairs and every one wants Java and C++/C# programmers with clearances. It seems the government is the only one with money to spend and they want their projects done in those languages. I learned Fortran Basic decades ago so this shouldn't be that difficult. Any advise would be appreciated. Mike -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Please Help! Scores (maybe hundreds) of emails have disappeared from my Outlook Express Inbox
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, tjpa wrote: On Oct 29, 2009, at 12:36 PM, Paul Cannon wrote: Not sure if you saw this Tom. http://blogs.msdn.com/interoperability/archive/2009/10/26/roadmap-for-outlook-personal-folders-pst-documentation.aspx One of the comments reads: The PST file is one of the biggest problems with Outlook. Why would anyone else want to implement this on other platforms? To this I say amen! I would hope that the only use for such implementation is I want to migrate to a non-outlook email client, but want to transfer all my mail which is currently in a .PST file. I suspect this is just one more aspect of the EU's enforcement of anti-trust and that M$ statement that This documentation is still in its early stages and work is ongoing means that it will take 20 years for it to see the light of day. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Create https website
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Richard P. wrote: A non-profit has a http website in which users are filling out personal and private form information, and the non-profit would like the get it secured with https. How can this be accomplished economically? Is the code difficult to write? There's no (new) code to write (unless the http: part of URLs is in the existing code). All you need to do is buy an SSL Certificate (many domain registrars can do it, e.g. Thawte, Network Solutions, GoDaddy, etc.), and then install it on the web server. If they maintain their own web server, there's a bit of configuration changes to do, but nothing too complicated. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Create https website
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, t.piwowar wrote: On Sep 22, 2009, at 3:57 PM, Richard P. wrote: A non-profit has a http website in which users are filling out personal and private form information, and the non-profit would like the get it secured with https. How can this be accomplished economically? Is the code difficult to write? HTTPS is just one element in securing data. It is a lot of work with many aspects to consider. For example for credit cards there is now a requirement for quarterly audits/certifications. A good place to start for an overview is to read up on the Payment Card Industry Data Security Standards (PCI DSIs). This is all true, but the original question just mentioned profile information, not payment card data. Granted, you still want to be as secure as possible, so I hope they have someone familiar with network and server administration and security. That said, the procedure for installing a certificate varies depending on which web server you are using. For apache, a good article is http://onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2008/03/04/step-by-step-configuring-ssl-under-apache.html For IIS (Microsoft's web server), their web site has an article at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/299875 -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Vista -- Help Needed with Read Only Flag
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009, Chris Dunford wrote: Windows won't tag the files inside the zipped file, just the zipped file itself. Well, any decent zip utility will store the attributes of the files it zips, and restore them on extract, so they really should remain read-only. I would think that even Windows's built-in zip support does this (I don't use it, so I don't know for sure). So, I still don't understand, but I guess maybe I didn't read the initial problem correctly. The problem was, as I understood it, files marked read/write were being copied to a CD, where they became read-only. Then, on being copied to a new machine's hard drive, they were still read-only. If a zip file was created on the original machine, the file attributes inside the zip file should mark those files read/write. If the zip file is copied to a CD, only the zip file itself (not the files inside) should be marked read-only. Then, if files are extracted from the zip file on the CD to a destination machine's hard drive, they should be extracted as read/write, not read-only. Correct? -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: Ubuntu 9.04 Installation]
On Mon, 7 Sep 2009, Rob wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 19:22 -0400, John DeCarlo wrote: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Rob robfl...@ix.netcom.com wrote: When I choose to boot Ubuntu, the Ubuntu Splash Screen appears and I get the following: Boot from (hd2,0) ext 3 eb309597-f711-458-b3b7-0a281dae6281 How many hard drives do you have in the system? (hd2,0) means the first partition on drive 3 (hd0 is first hard drive, hd1 is second). When it is booting, you can use the arrows to select one, then press 'e' to edit. I would try changing (hd2,0) to (hd1,0) or (hd3,0) and see if that works. I have one internal drive but it has two partitions. Where would I make the change you suggest above? And, why would it be seeing the Ubuntu splash screen if it cannot see the drive. It apparently does see it but then somehow changes its mind and says it doesn't exist. I thought maybe I had a flaky USB port for the external drive but I just swapped that connection and got the same results. :( The GRUB code is probably not on the same drive as your Ubuntu installation. GRUB is probably at the beginning (the master boot record, or MBR) of your internal drive. So, that should explain why it can load itself, but not Linux. One nice thing about GRUB is that once it's loaded, it will let you change its configuration on the fly. As John says, pressing e lets you change the GRUB commands normally used for one of the entries in your boot menu (you probably have 2 entries, 1 for Ubuntu and 1 for Windows). Select the entry you want to try booting. Then press e to edit that entry. It should then show you a list of commands... such as root hd(2,0)... I think that's what John wants you to edit. I haven't played around with Grub a lot myself (it's generally worked as-is for me). For more details, the grub manu can be found here: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Booting -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: Ubuntu 9.04 Installation]
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009, Rob wrote: I posted this on an Ubuntu Linux list I subscribe to earlier today but I've not yet gotten any useful responses. So, I thought I post it here on the chance someone may be able to help. Here's hoping... [...] Ok...here's a brain teaser. I have tried twice now to install Ubuntu 9.04 to a Win XP box with the following results. Installation Attempt #1 The install appears to proceed normally to an external 500 Gig drive (brand new) with Grub installed to HD0. Previous installations like this (to an older external drive) with Grub installed to HD0 worked fine. However, upon reboot after the Ubuntu installation, the system halted on Grub error 15. Fortunately, we had burned a Super Grub CD a little over a year ago and that allowed me to boot to XP but not to Ubuntu on the external drive. Thinking it may be something unique to my machine (an IBM/Lenovo), we called them since we have have on-site coverage. The technician came and installed a new motherboard (don't know how he determined that was a problem but so be it.) We rebuilt the machine with the factory disks that came with it and I ran XP only for about a week before attempting to install Ubuntu again earlier today. Installation Attempt # 2 Again, the installation appears to be proceeding normally to the external 500 Gig drive with Grub installed to HD0. Once again, after installation completes and the machine is rebooted the following is observed: GRUB Loading Stage 1.5 GRUB Loading, please wait Error 2 My only alternative is to reboot using the Super Grub CD to run XP. Would anyone have any ideas what may be going wrong here. BTW the Ubuntu CD I am using came from Linux Format magazine so it was not downloaded or burned by me and I have no reason to suspect it is faulty. Is your internal hard-drive IDE or SATA? I ask because Linux seems to assign both USB and SATA drivers as pseudo-SCSI (i.e. /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, etc.), and I'm wondering if your external drive might be showing up as /dev/sda during install, but as /dev/sdb when you're trying to boot from Grub on the internal drive. When booting from the Super Grub CD, can you get into a shell? If so, cat you send the contents of /etc/grub.conf (or grub.lst which I think is what Ubuntu uses (I use Fedora)). And maybe /etc/fstab? -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, Tony B wrote: The 4gb memory limit is just a Windows licensing issue though. Unless Mac OS also has such licensing issues, this shouldn't be as big an advantage. Right. The 32-bits specified is the size of a virtual memory address. Physical memory can actually be larger, though a particular process (program) would still be limited to the 4GB address space. Linux (and some server versions of Windows, not sure about OS X) can use PAE addressing to use more than 4GB, even in 32-bit mode. I just read an article on this yesterday: http://www.geoffchappell.com/viewer.htm?doc=notes/windows/license/memory.htm On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: A large advantage of 64-bit is getting past the 4B address limit. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Batch downloading of bank check images
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009, t.piwowar wrote: On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:51 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: I'd like to automate the process so that all available check images are downloaded by an automated process (in background), or at least while I'm doing something useful with my time. The bank will probably see you desire as unwelcome hacking of their system. My bank allows me to download my monthly statements as PDF files, which include images for all checks from that month. Very handy. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Video codec search
On Sun, 12 Jul 2009, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 10:24 AM, trac...@aol.com wrote: Still looking for the ACM Codec if someone can assist. The only ACM codec that I am aware of is the OGG VORBIS ACM codec. It is an audio codec, not video. I'm surprised none of our Windows gurus got this. ACM is Audio Compression Manager (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Compression_Manager#Audio_Compression_Manager ) Essentially, it's a front-end for the actual audio codec libraries. So, an audio program can have its own codec libraries, and/or it can use ACM plug-ins via the ACM API. Think of it as a way to increase the number of audio formats you can support (where ACM supports some format you don't already have built-in to the program you're using). That can complicate things for a cross-platform program, though. If you're using a program originally designed for Windows on, say, a Mac, it may offer an option to use ACM audio which then fails because ACM isn't available there. Or it may be trying to use ACM audio as a everything not supported by one of my other plug-ins option. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] vista sp2 install - ok so far
On Thu, 28 May 2009, Judy Cosler wrote: PSU Power supply unit. The thing that takes electricity from the wall and turns it into a form that the computer can use. (110 volts AC to 5 and 12 volts DC) On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: An HOUR to install it? WOW. Took less then that when I installed vista originally. I thought I got a bad update yesterday when I installed updates for win 7. After installing I rebooted and the machine would barely POST. Turned out my PSU had gone bad. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Andy Gallant a...@agallant.com wrote: Just one anecdote FYI. I have Vista Home Premium, fully updated as of yesterday (pre SP2) on a year old Toshiba laptop with Norton 360 (not a factor, as it turned out). This morning, Windows Update said that Vista SP2 was available. I backed up everything and worked on the Mac during the update. The download was 348 MB, which took quite a while. A notice said that installing SP2 could take an hour or more. In fact, it took about an hour from then, all told, until I could use the machine again. The overall experience was bearable. So far so good - YMMV. -Andy -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Shifting DTV channels
On Sat, 23 May 2009, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 10:05 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Feeling like Charlton Heston taking a walk on the beach? Huh? I'm not up on Charlton Heston movies. At any rate, 7 is back, but still no 9. I am going to suppose that neither channel will ever acknowledge or explain their sudden disappearance. Ever see the original Planet of the Apes movie? A classic. :-) -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting
On Wed, 20 May 2009, Steve at Verizon wrote: Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Books on the other hand are something that has to be read. Not so. I have books read to me, sometimes by the author. I read a book only when it is not available in an unabridged audiobook format. Most are ripped from CD audiobooks in our county library but I sometimes buy from Audible. I don't think that would work well for me. My reading speed varies depending on the content of the book. For most fiction, I zoom through it faster than someone could read aloud. For programming books, I zip through the bits that review topics with which I'm familiar, and slow down when a new (to me) concept is explained. Books explaining some of the math behind 3D graphics (for example), I plod through to soak in as much knowledge as possible. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Shifting DTV channels
On Tue, 19 May 2009, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:21 AM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com wrote: The old channel numbers are now just a label. That label will stick with the stations; although, the transmission channel used may be something else. 4 is in the low section of the VHF band and will not be used for Digital TV after July. The actual transmission channels will be 7 and above. I understand that. I do remain curious as to why the channel numbers, i.e., Channel 4 will sometimes disappear to be replaced by the frequency assignment number, and then revert back a short while later. Channel 4, WRC, is currently on UHF channel 48 and will remain there after June 12. As I understand it, the label is a piece of data carried inside the digital TV signal. If your TV sees this label data, it will display it. Presumably, the data may have been missing or corrupted at times, and so your TV just displayed the channel number that would normally be at that frequency (i.e. UHF/48). That's just my guess, though. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Java C++ - Quickest way to learn
On Mon, 18 May 2009, Michael Drabick wrote: I am looking for the quickest way to get up to speed on these two programing languages, as I have become one of the victims of this troubled economy. I have been to a few Job fairs and every one wants Java and C++/C# programmers with clearances. It seems the government is the only one with money to spend and they want their projects done in those languages. I learned Fortran Basic decades ago so this shouldn't be that difficult. Any advise would be appreciated. Are you up on object-oriented programming? If not, I think Java is the easiest way to learn that (since everything is a part of a class, you can't cheat). Unless you already know C, I'd leave C++ to last (if you _do_ know C, then C++ will let you gradually add classes/objects to your programs). C#, despite it's name is actually closer to Java than to C/C++. Beyond that, I'm not sure of the best way to learn. I usually start with a good book to learn a new language, but I haven't liked any of the Java or C++ books I've read as something I'd recommend for beginners. I've done tutoring in the past, but I'm kind of short of time. If you do try learning on your own, and get stuck, feel free to email me. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] I wonder
On Mon, 18 May 2009, Matthew Taylor wrote: If you still think Like Mac = Liberal then you have not been paying attention on this forum. Yes, Matt here is pretty conservative, but uses a Mac. Chris Dunford seems rather liberal, but uses Windows. I personally use Linux when I can (personal machines), but use Windows at work; however, I'd describe myself as liberal. I can see how one might think that a conservative might want to fit in with the majority by using Windows, but I don't think that really works out in the real world (after all, there are probably as many rationals for being conservative as there are conservatives, and the same for us liberals). On May 18, 2009, at 3:27 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: The old Mac versus Windows/DOS/PC flame wars have always been, in great part, about conservatives and liberals. The conservatives, politically, have always been perceived to be Mr. I'm A PC, while the liberals, politically, have always been the Mac guy. To me it is that simple, and it is still that way today. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Vista out?
On Mon, 4 May 2009, mike wrote: Redmond took the business from linux. On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 5:54 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Try Linux. How do you account for that 1% market share while Apple increased to 10%. Looks like Apple was taking business away from both Windows and Linux over this last year. I expected to see more of a Net Book bounce for Linux. According to most polls, Linux share has been trending upwards... So, really _no-one_ is taking share from Linux. http://marketshare.hitslink.com/os-market-share.aspx?qprid=9 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Vista out?
On Mon, 4 May 2009, Tom Piwowar wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems Looks like Linux peaked in 3Q08. No? Depends on which poll you look at... PollPeak --- -- Net Applications2009 Q2 (so far) W3 Counter December 2008/February 2009 (tie) AT Internet Institute Feb. 2009 (last listed) OneStat Sept. 24, 2003 (spotty sampling) In all the polls the overall trend is up (from first sample to last), and except for OneStat, the peak is fairly close to the end (if not at the end). Also, of the 4 polls listed, the highest sample is the last one in 2 of the polls. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple One to One Training
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Tom Piwowar wrote: There are many, and only FCP requires a proprietary OS. You forgot that there are some NLEs that also run on Windows. They are not as good as the three choices provided by Apple, but they are there. I have not looked at the NLEs available on Linux. What do you suggest? I'm not the original poster, but in case people are interested in the available choices on Linux, I thought I'd chime in with my experiences. I don't think I can give an unqualified recommendation to any of the packages (yet). Cinelerra has been around the longest, derived from an older package called Broadcast 2000. It was the first one I tried, and I still can't figure out the interface totally (I can do some things in it). Kino is very simple, and fairly easy to use. Alas, it seems to be limited in its codec support (mostly DV) and import support (firewire only). I might use if it it supported more video codecs. Avidemux is very good, supports lots of codecs, but is fairly simple in its editing capabilities. If you don't need lots of fancy wipes and fades, I'd recommend this. Pitivi is very promising, but isn't yet stable. It has some transition effects, and supports more codecs than Kino. I'd probably recommend it once the stability is improved (no crashes). I like its interface. Kdenlive is more stable than Pitivi, but not quite production quality. It seems to have more options for transitions, but the interface is a little more complicated. If Avidemux doesn't do what you want, give this one a try. There are others I haven't yet tried. LiVES sounds interesting. And, apparently, Blender (an open source 3D modeler/renderer) has video editing capabilities. However, I was turned off by its interface for 3D modeling, so haven't tried it for video editing. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Silverlight
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Tony B wrote: Huh? MS didn't develop Java, did they? I thought that was Sun. The OP said *MS* had a history of creating apps and then not sharing them with everyone for free. Yes, Sun created Java, and created the spec for how Java had to behave. Microsoft created the first version of Java for Windows. But their version (sometimes called J++) had lots of extensions specific to their version. If you took advantage of those extensions, your Java program was no longer standard, and would only run on Windows. There may have been other more subtle changes, but I'm not sure of the specifics there. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Can you name a single example of that? Probably not... Java. Even the courts agreed. MS paid $750,000,000 I think. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Climate Change Models
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Fred Holmes wrote: The Global Warming alarmists consistently refuse to publish/release _all_ of the details of their research so that all of the assumptions and details of the analysis can be examined for factuality/reasonableness. It's very easy to create a computer model (which is what this climate research is) and input assumptions to obtain any answer you want. At the risk of starting a whole new debate, I did want to disagree with this bit. At least one of the models is available for download. Search for CCSM (Community Climate System Model). I was able to download v3.0 of their model source code (a mixture of C and Fortran 90) and their input data. It also comes with a nice 70-page user guide for how it works. I haven't yet had the time to go through it and run some tests, but I plan to real soon now. I mainly did this just to read the source code to see what parts of our planet were being modeled and how. Curiosity killed the programmer, I guess. :-) -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Simple port forwarding?
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Tony B wrote: This sounds complicated to me. As I recall, this Linksys WRT54GS has a enable/disable DHCP switch. Is there some option somewhere to set ranges? Tony, I have a WRT54G (not S, but it should be similar). On the Basic Setup page, I have DHCP Server: Enable or Disable, followed by Starting IP address, and Maximum Number of DHCP Users. In my case, I have DHCP enabled, starting IP address of 192.168.1.100, and max users of 50. So, my range of DHCP assigned addresses will be 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.150. I use addresses below .100 for static addresses. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: You don't have to switch off DHCP to forward ports. You just have to limit DHCP to handle a range of ports and give the target computer a static address that is out of the DHCP range. That is simple enough for me. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Linux newbie question
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009, Stephen Brownfield wrote: I am running Fedora 10. I went to download another browser, Galeon. It stated that Galeon is part of Fedora Extras, the community-driven part of Fedora. To install, simply type: yum install galeon. I went to terminal and typed: yum install galeon. I was told that I did not have privileges to do that. I know my root user password, but how do I identify myself as the root user when using the terminal. Root user is not one of the choices when I log on. What should I do? To do something as root, from a terminal window, you can do that 2 ways: su --- su will ask you for the root password yum install galeon exit--- this will quit being root and go back to being you or sudo yum install root --- sudo will ask you for the root password To log in as root from the login screen, try selecting the other option... I believe it will let you type in the username (in this case root). -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Linux newbie question
Actually, was the first way you tried the System menu, Administration, Add / Remove Software? I just tried that myself, typed galeon into the search field, waited while it searched the online repoisitories, click the check-box when it appears, and click Apply. It will prompt you for the root password when it gets to the actual installation part. On Sun, 1 Mar 2009, Vicky Staubly wrote: On Sun, 1 Mar 2009, Stephen Brownfield wrote: I am running Fedora 10. I went to download another browser, Galeon. It stated that Galeon is part of Fedora Extras, the community-driven part of Fedora. To install, simply type: yum install galeon. I went to terminal and typed: yum install galeon. I was told that I did not have privileges to do that. I know my root user password, but how do I identify myself as the root user when using the terminal. Root user is not one of the choices when I log on. What should I do? To do something as root, from a terminal window, you can do that 2 ways: su --- su will ask you for the root password yum install galeon exit--- this will quit being root and go back to being you or sudo yum install root --- sudo will ask you for the root password To log in as root from the login screen, try selecting the other option... I believe it will let you type in the username (in this case root). -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Linux newbie question
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009, Michael Fernando wrote: sudo yum install root --- sudo will ask you for the root password I don't use Fedora, so I don't know exactly how sudo gets configured in a newly installed machine, but don't you mean this? sudo yum install galeon (sudo will ask for YOUR password, and having confirmed your identity, it will run the command as root.) Oh, you're right. The root/galeon thing was a typo, and I'd forgotten that sudo wanted the user's password not the root password, as I usually just use su. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MS Sues TomTom for Using Linux
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Not just CPM I think every OS used a 8.3 naming system for a long time. If I remember rightly my Commodore used it. From the InfoWorld article, Two patents cover the use of the 8.3 file-naming convention, designed for backward compatibility between file systems that support both long and short file names. So, the patent in question, as I understand it, doesn't cover 8.3 filenames by themselves. It covers the method the VFAT extension to FAT uses to store a long filename, as well as a unique 8.3 version of the long name. So, for example, you may have a directory on your C drive called Documents And Settings, but older programs written before Windows 95 would see that as DOCUMEN~1. So, in the data structure on disk, there are actually 2 names stored for each file or directory. So, I think the patent covers the storing of 2 filenames in each directory structure, plus some method for generating the shorter (8.3) name from the longer name. That said, I think Microsoft are being asses by preventing the one filesystem natively usable on Linux, MacOS and Windows from being used. Most memory cards (camera, phone, etc.) and USB flash drives use this filesystem for maximum portability. Also, Unix has never used an 8.3 filesystem, which stores filenames in two fields, one 8 characters long and the other 3, with an implied dot between the parts. It had a filename which might or might not have one or more dots in it. Some flavors of Unix (especially ATT ones) had a 14 character limitation, not sure if Xenix was one of those. Linux and other modern Unix flavors have much longer limits on filename length. At 06:25 PM 2/26/2009, you wrote: Well it says MS has the patents on them...so then the answer would be yes. I guess you never used CPM either. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history [was: Taxes and good life]
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, mike wrote: http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/natural_resources/article3207311.ece That's a ridiculous headline (World Not Running Out Of Oil). I can see World Not Running Out Of Oil As Quickly As Predicted, or even World Not Running Out Of Oil In This Century. But, as I'm not aware of new reserves of oil being generated underground, we will run out eventually. And, I feel safe in saying, we will run out of oil sooner than we will run out of solar power (something on the order of 5 billion years from now). Even the article itself really only addresses the next decade. On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Elaine Zablocki elainezablo...@ezab.netwrote: At 09:01 PM 2/12/2009, Ray Rheault wrote: -- Original message from Matthew Taylor taylorsmatt...@gmail.com: On Feb 11, 2009, at 2:33 PM, db wrote: and they have been increasingly motivated in the last 25 years or so to come strongly and selfishly forward by a trend of increasing American scarcity and diminishing prospects. What scarcity? What is America running out of in your view? In what way are our prospects diminished? Most libertarians believe that if there is a scarcity, it represents a market opportunity, and believe that with the right choices made our prospects look good indeed. We are running out of oil, and our entire economy is based on oil. U.S. oil production hit its peak in 1970. World oil production is at its peak about now. [...] -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Fedora printing question
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Stephen Brownfield wrote: How to I cancel/delete a job from the printing Queue in Fedora? Do you see a little printer icon in the top bar of your desktop? If so, click on that (just once) and a window should pop up with your jobs in it. Right click on the one you want to cancel, and select the Cancel menu item. If you don't see the job, try selecting Show completed jobs in the View menu. If it shows up then, the complete document may have been sent to the printer (or print server), and it's no longer on your machine. If not, then open up a Terminal window, and type lpq -a. (The -a tells it to show jobs queued up for all printers... if you have only one defined, you can omit that part.) If you see the job you want in that list, look at the jobs number on the left, and (assuming it's 123) type lprm 123. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history [was: Taxes and good life]
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, Chris Dunford wrote: I can't help but notice you did not address the question - why do most liberals appear to prefer progressive? Pretty simple answer: because Limbaugh and the rest of the neocon media comedians have managed to turn liberal into something akin to communist in the fifties--an unpatriotic America-hater. I still use liberal because I am neither. I am a liberal patriotic America-lover. Limbaugh thinks this is an oxymoron, but he is wrong as usual. (Hard to say whether he actually believes the stuff he says or just says it because it makes him a lot of money--he certainly has to know that a lot of his rant is factually incorrect. And if we're looking for someone unpatriotic, let's nominate someone who has actually said, in so many words, that he hopes Obama will fail.) Thanks, Chris. I too call myself a liberal, as do my parents, my aunts and uncles and cousins. I understand (I don't remember personally) that I went on my first civil rights march in a stroller. :-) [Progressive] implies change is valuable for the sake of change itself Sez who? I still prefer liberal, but progressive doesn't have the meaning you impute. A progressive is someone who wants progress. Progress means improvement. That is not change for the sake of change. And, as software developers, we could point out that in contrast to progress (good change), there is regress (bad change), as in regression testing (testing for features in software which used to work, but no longer do because a developer made some change). -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history [was: Taxes and good life]
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, db wrote: You got to break some eggs to make an omelet. Is breaking things orderly? Probably not from the chicken's point of view... And we have some pretty stubborn chickens. Matthew Taylor wrote: I respect your life choices - I have made some unorthodox choices myself. I don't demand others welcome my choices, or even support my choices. I certainly don't demand that the law be changed to suit my choices - I do what I can to persuade others to support my views that the laws should be changed in an orderly manner. Have I advocated storming city hall and stealing marriage licenses? I'm saying that I don't care how unjust laws get changed. Did black people tell the supreme court after Brown vs Board of Education... no, no, we'll wait until we can get favorable laws in all 48 states? Did slaves after the civil war say No, no, I'll wait until my state of South Carolina outlaws slavery? I wish that the people of the US would reject past injustices sooner, but it seems that it's usually the courts and/or the federal government that first tries to fix things. Then the bigots cry states rights! and let their demand for small/weak federal government (or against activist judges) try to justify their bigotry. It's also telling that you called it my lifestyle and a choice. Strangely, your religion, more of a choice than my lifestyle, does more damage than my lifestyle, and yet no one suggests you give it up. You also dragged marriage into the discussion, trying to say I want more (or changed) laws, but it was Lawrence v. Texas that started this discussion (for me anyway). That overturned a state law which made what I do in the privacy of my own bedroom (if I lived in Texas) a crime. How is having that law small unobtrusive goverment? You simply brings up that excuse when it suits your bigotry. I shouldn't have jumped into this political discussion, but I was simply trying to show that this kind of bigotry affects real people, people you know, but obviously don't care about. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Why things complicate? Anxious...
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, Marcio wrote: I had a blog with Google: www.marciovasconcellospinheiro.com, domain registered and all. I write articles on psychoanalysis. The name of the blog: Psychoanalysis and Other Things. Well, I try to access the blog in the above address and...it is not there. I can enter my account, the blog is there, I can access my articles, they are there. I can even rite anther article, it will be added. But...when I try the address, it is not found. I went into Google and there are thousands of answers to common problems, there are discussion groups, atone point I even sent the addres of the blog complaining. Nobody answers. At one page they say that when this happens could be because their automatic system thought that my blog was a spam... Then what? What do I do at this point? My blogger with my seven or eight articles is not there... Please advise Marcio Hi Marcio, It looks like you registered your domain with GoDaddy. But, it's not complete, as the DNS stuff isn't there. So, check with them, and see how you can set up DNS records there to point to your Google site. I think the Google end of things is covered by this page: http://sites.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=99448 -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history [was: Taxes and good life]
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009, Steve at Verizon wrote: Back to Scalia. I was impressed with his take on his (losing) vote on the Lawrence v. Texas ruling. He supported the legality of the legislation, that states can enact laws pertaining to morality, while at the same time saying that if he had been in that legislature, he would have voted against it. He did not let his liberal view of homosexuality cloud the interpretation of law. I suggest that whatever state Scalia lives in outlaw Italians, and we reinstate Bush long enough that Scalia can be tortured. In fact, maybe that state can reinstate lynching. In fact, what state do you live in? That any state feels it can prohibit who I am as a person is outrageous and should not be permitted in any civilized country, let along one that claims to be as enlightened as we claim. People like you and Scalia belong in the Dark Ages. Finally, if Liberal isn't a bad word anymore, why do Liberals call themselves Progressives now instead. I have some more bad words for you, but I don't want to subject the nice people on this list (as opposed to you) to them. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Daisy-chain wired/wireless hubs/routers?
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Mike Sloane wrote: OK, I agree that I need to turn off DHCP on the slave router and give it a different ID from the master. But now you are suggesting that I go from the WAN port on the wired/wireless slave to an in port on the router. While that sounds logical, I am wondering if the electronics on the WAN port can deal hand off to the in port the router? Isn't the WAN port set up to deal with some kind of specialized connections handshake from the ISP's modem? (I am asking this out of ignorance.) The WAN port on most routers is just an ethernet connection, the same as the LAN ports. The modem (DSL, cable, etc.) makes the connection from ethernet to DSL or cable or whatever. You may encounter some routers which have some type of modem (cable or DSL) built-in. Now, you can hook up the WAN port from one router to the LAN port of another, but, in that case, you're setting up 2 separate networks. Let's say router A has its WAN connection to your internet connection. You have some computers (call them A1, A2, A3, etc.) connected to router A's LAN ports. Router B has its WAN port connected to a LAN port on router A, and some computers connected it to (wirelessly or wired) and we'll call them B1, B2, B3, etc. First of all, both A and B need to have their LANs set up with different IP ranges... if A is already using the 192.168.1.x range, then we should set up B to use something else, like 192.168.2.x. To use a different IP range, you need to change both the router's own IP address (on the LAN side) and change the IP addresses it hands out via DHCP. Once that's done, all computers can get to the internet, and B1 can get to A1, A2, etc. (same for B2, B3, etc.) but none of the A computers can access any of the B computers (with limited exceptions if you set up port forwarding). I haven't dealt with converting a router to an Access Point, as none of my Linksys routers at home have that capability. So, I can't comment on how that would work, if your routers have that option. I still think my original suggestion is the simplest. If you were worried about security, enabling encryption (WPA is better than WEP, but I use WEP at home) is a good idea. Just give the auditors the key, and when they leave you can turn off wireless, or just change the key. Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Most wireless routers can be set up to act as an Access point only and do no routing. This would be the preferred setting along with security WPA TKIP Along with the caveats that Tom and others mentioned it is not that difficult. Plug router in from port on hub to wan on router. Get into router view web, set security and then turn it into access point only. (Turns off DHCP) Stewart At 12:58 PM 2/7/2009, you wrote: I have an office with an 8-port Ethernet router on a broadband cable connection. I have been requested the ability to provide some wireless capability temporarily (for outside auditors). I have a spare 4-port wired/wireless Linksys broadband router, and I was wondering if I could daisy-chain the latter to the former by using a cross-over cable between one of the Ethernet ports on each unit. I know that I can daisy chain Ethernet hubs this way, but have not ever tried to do it with wireless (802.11a/b/g/n) connections. My other thought is to plug the wired/wireless into the broadband connection and then patch the 8-port hub into that. Before I start chasing the impossible dream, I was wondering if anyone had tried it or had any thoughts. Mike * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Fedora and a Mac home network
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009, Stephen Brownfield wrote: I just loaded Fedora 10 on a computer and would like to add it to my home network which consists of Macintosh computers. It can find the internet via Ethernet or wireless. How can I get it to be recognized and/or have it recognize my iMac running OS 10.4.11? Well, first of all, we need to know what you want your network to do. If you're sharing files, then you have several options. The traditional Unix/Linux file sharing uses something called NFS which is a little difficult to configure, and can sometimes lock up when the file server is unreachable. Linux can speak Mac's native file sharing with a package called netatalk (Net AppleTalk). However, the easiest actually seems to be to get both sides to speak the Window's native file sharing. I think (Tom can correct me if I'm wrong) that Mac OS X can natively share files with Windows. And Linux can use a package called Samba to share (as client or server) files. The OS X side of things can be found here... and the Fedora is very similar. http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=173 -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GPS [was: Windows Active X]
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009, mike wrote: Google is offering new mapping software for cell phones without gps using triangulation via the cell towers. Has anyone tried this? How was it if so? I'm using that on my work-issued Blackberry. It's ok. It's better where the cell towers are closer together. The accurracy is anywhere from within a mile to with a hundred yards or so (depending on closeness of cell towers). And, of course, if cell towers are too far (or out of range completely), then it won't show your position at all. The maps seem pretty slow to download, but I have an old Blackberry, so maybe newer ones work better. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ubuntu networking
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Stephen Brownfield wrote: Since ubuntu no longer supports PPC computers and the computer in question is an old Powerbook. I am going to try a different flavor of linux. I was thinking Fedora. Any comments? My favorite distro (flavor) is Fedora. The only worry I'd have is that their support for PPC is relatively new. YellowDog Linux has been supporting PPC for years. So, maybe try Fedora, but if you run into issues with hardware support, maybe give YDL a try. Michael Fernando wrote: I just installed ubuntu on an old computer. Now I need to know how to set it up to recognize the internet (DSL modem) and network through an Ethernet connection. Have you looked through this? https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/internet/C/index.html Are you running into any specific problems? -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ubuntu networking
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Stephen Brownfield wrote: The reason I am not trying YDL is because it is NOT free. I am trying to do this entire venture with out spending any money - just use old parts I have laying around and freeware. Call me cheap, but I want to utilize what I already have. I think YDL is free, unless you want their early release, support, or their YDL.net (automatic upgrades like the old RedHat Network). If you go to their Get YDL! page (http://us.fixstars.com/products/ydl/delivery.shtml), ignore the BUY NOW button, and click on the link to their public mirrors (http://us.fixstars.com/support/downloads/). But, like I said, I prefer Fedora (at least on my x86 machines). And, since I use Fedora myself, I'll be better able to help with Fedora questions than with Ubuntu, YellowDog, or any other Linux flavor. A handy page with tips (targeted at Fedora 10, x86 version, but some tips may be applicable to PPC) is http://www.gagme.com/greg/linux/f10-tips.php Vicky Staubly wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Stephen Brownfield wrote: Since ubuntu no longer supports PPC computers and the computer in question is an old Powerbook. I am going to try a different flavor of linux. I was thinking Fedora. Any comments? My favorite distro (flavor) is Fedora. The only worry I'd have is that their support for PPC is relatively new. YellowDog Linux has been supporting PPC for years. So, maybe try Fedora, but if you run into issues with hardware support, maybe give YDL a try. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ubuntu networking
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Vicky Staubly wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Stephen Brownfield wrote: The reason I am not trying YDL is because it is NOT free. I am trying to do this entire venture with out spending any money - just use old parts I have laying around and freeware. Call me cheap, but I want to utilize what I already have. I think YDL is free, unless you want their early release, support, or their YDL.net (automatic upgrades like the old RedHat Network). If you go to their Get YDL! page (http://us.fixstars.com/products/ydl/delivery.shtml), ignore the BUY NOW button, and click on the link to their public mirrors (http://us.fixstars.com/support/downloads/). But, like I said, I prefer Fedora (at least on my x86 machines). And, since I use Fedora myself, I'll be better able to help with Fedora questions than with Ubuntu, YellowDog, or any other Linux flavor. A handy page with tips (targeted at Fedora 10, x86 version, but some tips may be applicable to PPC) is http://www.gagme.com/greg/linux/f10-tips.php One more interesting link is http://www.penguinppc.org/about/distributions.php which compares the various Linux distributions which support some kind of PPC hardware. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ubuntu networking
On Thu, 1 Jan 2009, Stephen Brownfield wrote: I just installed ubuntu on an old computer. Now I need to know how to set it up to recognize the internet (DSL modem) and network through an Ethernet connection. The other 3 computers on the network are Macs running different flavors of OS X. The primary one I want it to interact with is running Tiger (10,4.11). Any help would be appreciated. So, if you have a router (I assume since you have multiple computers), you'll want to set your computer to use DHCP. A page showing the network control panel is here (but on that page, they were disabling DHCP): http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-graphical-tool.html If it doesn't show your ethernet card (Wired connection), that's a separate problem (problem with the driver). In which case, can you send the output of running lspci in a terminal window? -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Vista Hosts file query
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008, John DeCarlo wrote: On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: There was a thread on Mac-L a while back where people were having some slow internet response times that were fixed by disabling the Configure IPv6 in the Network control panel of Mac OS X from Automatically to Off. Does this mean the OS X's IPv6 implementation leaves something to be desired? Probably. My guess it is similar to the problems various Linux versions had as well. It turns out that having IPv4 and IPv6 coexist together is tougher in practice than most people thought. I expect Vista will figure it out soon. I know a year or so ago, it was a reasonably big problem for Linux. So I expect that Vista is just 6 months to a year behind OS X and Linux in working out the IPv6 coexisting with IPv4 issues. Hi John, I think you hit the nail on the head. There's nothing in a hostname that tells you whether it's supposed to be an IPv4 address or IPv6. Firefox is first trying to do a lookup via IPv6. That will fail immediately if your OS is configured to not do IPv6 (as described above for Mac OS). Here's a link with a way to disable IPv6 in just Firefox... http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Fedora/2005-08/0939.html -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Vista Hosts file query
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Tony B wrote: NM. I finally stumbled blindly into the solution. If you can describe today's last 6 hours as a blind stumble. :) My hosts file at noon today when I started: --- 127.0.0.1 localhost ::1 localhost # Start of entries inserted by Spybot - Search Destroy 127.0.0.1 .archivioadulti.com ... --- Eventually, I finally tried pinging just localhost which _should_ have pinged 127.0.0.1. Instead, it tried to ping ::1. That was just too odd to bear, so I tried deleting the ::1 localhost line, and that seems to have solved the problem. I doubt I will ever know where that line came from. ::1 is the IPv6 equivalent to 127.0.0.1, always the local machine. On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Tony B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is WinVista ignoring my hosts file? As a test I've added www.yahoo.com to the end (behind all the Spybot entries), but despite reboots and disabling the DNS service, I can still ping and browse to the site. I can also ping the sites entered by Spybot. TIA Vista Home Premium SP1 -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Network wiring
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, Larry Sacks wrote: A friend is trying to setup a home network between 2 separate houses - the older main house and a newly built home. There's about 500 feet separating the 2 homes and a wireless-N signal is just strong enough to make it about ¾ of the way between the houses. There is a garage with power between the 2 houses, but they'd prefer not to put anything network related into the garage. There is a common telephone number between the buildings carried on a telephone line that goes from the street to the old house and then to the new house. Would it be possible to (assuming the 2nd pair is wired) carry the network signal over the unused 2nd pair? If so, how would it be wired? No. Ethernet requires 2 pairs (+/- for both transmit and receive). In addition, the telephone connection is likely to be Cat 3 wire (less twisted than Cat 5, thus more interference). Even if you were able to run Cat5/Cat5e, that would be pushing the 100 meter (I think about 330 feet) limit on a single run of twisted-pair Ethernet. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Network wiring
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, Larry Sacks wrote: $500 a pair? I already know the next question that I'll get ... is there a lower budget solution? They just shelled out several thousand to get their driveway paved over (apparently the gravel driveway was no longer acceptable) so their budget is somewhat limited. I think your _affordable_ solutions come down to 2 main possibilities: 1. Running new Cat5 cable from one house to an ethernet switch ($30 or so for a 100Mbps switch with 5 or 8 ports) in the garage, and then more cable from the switch to the 2nd house. 2. Getting a more powerful (and directional) antenna for wifi. The common term for this is a cantenna (some DIY versions use Pringles cans as the outer housing). You can buy at www.cantenna.com, or look for DIY guides at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantenna (The first thing to get is a pair of Wifi routers or Access Points with detachable antennas, which you can replace by connecting a coax cable.) -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Piwowar Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 4:59 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Network wiring At one time there were amplifiers (I think) that could be used to amplify a wired signal. You simply plugged in the cable to one end and another cable to the next and gave it power and it amplified the signal for long distance. Yes, this is what I would look at first. It would be higher speed and probably be more relable than wireless. You put a box at either end of the straight copper pair and connect each box to the LAN at each location. Such boxes are called Ethernet Copper Extenders and cost about $500 a pair. see www.ethernetextender.com for one example -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Jeff Wright wrote: I can't give you exact details, I only have to go on what he tells me. He typically works with multi-hundred MB graphic files that open and save much more quickly, as well as conversion work, such as saving one of these files to a different file format or a pdf, takes less time. He's shown me examples of work he does in Photoshop and Quark that he claims is much faster than it was before. He's a Mac guy at home, but he loves his XP workstation. -Original Message- Okay, I can't let this pass. Our video editors don't edit one whit faster on a multi core system, so what is it about this guy that makes him think he can finish projects quicker? I mean, can he offer specific examples? One thing to keep in mind is that many P4 motherboards only supported DDR memory, but Core Duo and Core 2 Duo (and Core 2 Quad) motherboards support DDR2 memory (and multi-hundred MB graphic files are going to be rather intensive users of memory bandwidth). Also, things like graphic filters are rather CPU-intensive, and could easily make use of multiple threads and therefore multiple cores. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] dumbquestion about mime
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Fred Holmes wrote: I receive the list messages as individual plain text messages -- no fonts, formatting, embedded graphics. By just a diatribe do you mean that you are receiving messages in _digest_ format, i.e., one message a day with all of the day's messages concatenated into one message? Look at the URL in the standard trailer for this list for instructions for getting out of digest mode. I believe the poster (Lee?) is receiving the digest as a plain text message with all the days emails concatenated together. I think the MIME command to Listserv will cause it to send the digest as a message with a MIME type of multipart/digest (see https://www.greatcircle.com/lists/majordomo-users/mhonarc/majordomo-users.199803/msg00481.html ) which some email programs will display as an email message containing other email messages as attachments (or other more convenient arrangements). So, I think the mime command is what is desired. At 09:03 PM 11/12/2008, RLeeSimon wrote: list had to be resubscribed cuz i gota new email address...so now it comes as a text mail ...do I want it in mime format ...before outlook shows each entry on a list so I can open individually ...now it's just a diatribe ...I sent the mime command in to the server ...will that fixit? -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] what router?
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008, Eric S. Sande wrote: What would be too expensive? I've always bought my own cable modems...for a relatively small price I might add. I'm being overly presise about terminology today. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_television_headend In telecom (I don't actually know what cable people call it) the modem, router, gateway, whatever are usually termed as a class edge devices, since they reside on the edge of the network. Aren't (or weren't) these edge devices also called CPE (customer premises equipment)? -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] X-Windows on Vista
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008, Andy Gallant wrote: I want to run X-Windows on my Vista Home Prem laptop. I've been trying to make Cygwin work, but it was a struggle even to get it installed. I have access to a Unix expert but he has never run Cygwin on Vista. Google (is my friend (tm)) helped locate hints to help get the Cygwin package to install without apparent errors, but we can't get Cygwin's X-Windows to work - there are a number of errors. Has anybody succeeded with getting Cygwin's X-Windows to run on Vista? Is there a reasonable alternative, preferably both stable and free (Xming?)? Can anyone help with these questions? Thanks in advance. I've used X-ming myself on XP, and found it very good. Two links I've found for it are: http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/ I have used Cygwin, but not their X-server (a plain cross-compiled XFree86, I think). Have you used cross-machine X windows before? Do you know how to set up your DISPLAY environment variable. There are 2 general ways you can run X windows... plain unencrypted, and tunneled via ssh. For the first way, just log in to the remote machine (where the programs will reside whose displays you want on your Vista machine). If your Vista machine has an IP address of 1.2.3.4, then in your shell on the remote machine (probably either telnet or an ssh client like Putty) set an environment variable DISPLAY to 1.2.3.4:0. Either of setenv DISPLAY 1.2.3.4:0(csh) DISPLAY=1.2.3.4:0 ; export DISPLAY (sh or bash) You probably will also need to open the X ports in your firewall control panel on the Vista machine (TCP ports 6000, 6001, etc.). To tunnel via ssh, tell your SSH to forward X or forward X ports (there's a checkbox in the Putty options if that's what you're using). Then, when you login with that SSH client, it should automatically set the DISPLAY variable to something like localhost:10 or similar. You won't need to open any ports in your Vista firewall. Let me know if you have more questions. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Start menu on Windows XP question
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008, Robert wrote: [start-menu too big...] I am parsimonious; the installed programs are actually used needed by me -- I uninstall all programs that are unneeded or do not work well. My question that seeks to solve my problem: is there a fix for Windows XP that will allow all my programs to appear on the Start menu? What I did on my PC at work is organize the programs into categories. For example, WinAmp and Quicktime and VLC went into a category called Multimedia, and MS Office and OpenOffice went into a category called Office... etc. Organizing the stuff is pretty easy. If you right-click on the Start Menu button, you'll see two menu items Open and Open All Users. You'll probably need to do both, as some programs will likely be in one, and some in the other. They'll show up just like regular Windows folders (that's because they are, under the covers). So, open the Programs folder in each, and create the categories you want by making new folders in the Program folder you choose. (If you do it in the All Users folder, then your categories will be available no matter which user logs into your PC, if the other then the categories will only be available to you.) Once you've created the category folders, simply drag the individual programs and program folders into the folders for the appropriate category. You can even put programs in multiple categories by copying rather than moving the programs (hold the control key while dragging the program into that category). Voila! -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help!
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Kelly J. Morris wrote: Greetings. I have just managed to lose all my data. Ouch! I hope I can help... In preparation for upgrading my Linux installation, I bought and installed a WD USB 500 GB external drive. I copied all my data from my SuSE 9.2 partition to the external drive. I rebooted to my WinXP HE partition and saved my data to the same external drive. I then deleted the old SuSE partition and installed Ubuntu 8.041 LTS where SuSE had been. I rebooted into Ubuntu and looked for my folders on the external drive. They are not there or, if they are there, I can't see them. Only the Windows folders remain. I assume that, when I saved the Windows folders to the external drive, they wrote over the files that were already there, i.e. the folders from my previous SuSE Linux installation that I had saved there. It was not a case of space - I had saved about 75 GB of files from my SuSE partition and only about 10 GB of files from Windows (that I rarely use). Many external drives come pre-formatted as 1 big FAT32 partition. Did you leave it like that? Or did you create some kind of Linux partition (e.g. ext2/ext3, resierfs, jfs, etc.)? Did you just copy the files (as in a cp command, or dragging and dropping from a Gnome/KDE desktop)? Did you tar them (as in tar -cvf /mnt/external/backup.tar /)? Did you use some kind of backup program that did it for you? From the Windows side, what did you do? (The above questions mostly apply.) In general, you are probably ok, unless you used some program that assumed it could use the whole external drive for its own (nefarious) purposes. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help!
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Kelly J. Morris wrote: Vicky Staubly wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Kelly J. Morris wrote: In preparation for upgrading my Linux installation, I bought and installed a WD USB 500 GB external drive. I copied all my data from my SuSE 9.2 partition to the external drive. I rebooted to my WinXP HE partition and [...] Many external drives come pre-formatted as 1 big FAT32 partition. Did you leave it like that? Or did you create some kind of Linux partition (e.g. ext2/ext3, resierfs, jfs, etc.)? Did you just copy the files (as in a cp command, or dragging and dropping from a Gnome/KDE desktop)? Did you tar them (as in tar -cvf /mnt/external/backup.tar /)? Did you use some kind of backup program that did it for you? Yes, the external drive was formatted FAT32. I didn't partition or format any part of it to ext2 or ext3. I dragged-and-dropped from my SuSE installation (GNOME) to the drive. (This moved, rather than copied, these files.Since I was getting ready to delete the source partition, I didn't think that this made any difference. Boy, was I wrong!) Since 98% of what I was saving was .doc, .txt, .pdf, .jpg, and .html files, I thought that I was OK. To be sure, I opened some of the files in their new external HD location using oOo, GIMP, etc. and I had no problem opening, modifying, and saving any files. I just now tried dragging some files from my Linux (Fedora in my case, but Gnome should do the same things regardless of which distro) home directory to a USB flash drive. It copied rather than moved. _But_, if I dragged from my home directory to another directory on my hard-drive (in this case /tmp) it moved rather than copied. This seems to be the same set of rules that Windows uses, though I'd prefer something safer like always copying. So, I'm worried you may have been dropping the files somewhere other than your external drive. Did you open the destination window by clicking on the external drive's icon on your desktop? From the Windows side, what did you do? (The above questions mostly apply.) I rebooted into WinXP HE and did the same. Some folders I copied-and-pasted, on others, I used Send. My son says that he thinks that using Send rather than drag-and-drop or copy-and-paste was the culprit, but I dunno ... In general, you are probably ok, unless you used some program that assumed it could use the whole external drive for its own (nefarious) purposes. I hope so, but nothing I try -- in Ubuntu or in Win -- allows me to see these files, if they are still there. I have run searches in both Ubuntu and Win, with no success. Well, try this (to be absolutely sure): * Plug in the external drive, if it isn't already plugged-in * Open an xterm or Terminal window... * Run the command df to see what disks you have mounted (the external drive will probably be something like /media/WD_USB_500 or /mnt/usb or some such). * Using the partition name from above, enter a command like: ls -la /media/WD_USB_500 * Do you see the files/directories you copied from SuSE? -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Replication (was Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer i
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Tom Piwowar wrote: John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own I'll go with that. Thank you. I like John's postings... he's rational, and where his solution might not work for everyone, he usually acknowledges that. However, did not one of the links posted here state that Google does not use RAID, it uses replication, except in a few situations where they find RAID is unavoidable. As I recall, the Google File System is a distributed file system (i.e. where a particular chunk of data might be one any of a cluster of computers), and because it replicates each chunk of data onto multiple systems, you could say it's application-level RAID. Or, you could say it does filesystem-level replication (as opposed to database-level replication). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_File_System -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] LHC
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, mike wrote: Would we have to deal with Al Gore's company selling black hole offsets? Or worse yet, Bush claiming that the black hole is a natural phenomenon, so we don't need to do anything about it. :-) On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Eric S. Sande [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if they do manage to create a tiny, stable black hole it will take a very long time for it to eat a planet. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Backing up desktop
On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Michael S. Altus wrote: I wrote PC computer running Windows XP. I have BounceBack software that directs a C-drive backup to a Seagate external drive. How can I get the desktop to be backed up as well? John DeCarlo replied: Your desktop is on the C: drive. So you are almost certainly backing it up already. On my desktop I have a folder, My Computer. I open My Computer and get a choice of drives, such as C: It seems that my C: drive is in My Computer which is on the desktop. Can this be resorted for backing up? In this case, appearances can be deceiving. Try this. Open up your C drive, then Documents And Setting. In there, you should see a few folders, one for All Users and one for each user that logs into that computer. Open up the one corresponding to the username you use. Inside that folder, you'll see a folder called Desktop. Open that, and you should see most of the files that are shown on your desktop. Basically, Windows has some special code that goes through that Desktop folder (and anything found under All Users\Desktop) and displays it on the desktop. It also shows the My Computer and Network Places and your trashcan, etc. depending on your settings. My Computer and Network Places don't actually correspond to files or directories on your disk, so don't need to be backed up themselves. Incidently, my home PC runs Linux (Fedora with GNOME), and it does something similar (it just has a slightly different location: /home/vicky/Desktop). I'm not sure how the Mac handles things currently... I seem to recall older versions (pre OSX) had a flag for each file saying whether it should be shown on the desktop, in addition to, or instead of, its actual location. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Miro
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Tony B wrote: Comcast is currently the nation's largest cable supplier, and for many that means it's their _only_ broadband solution. So comments like 'dump Comcast' may seem humorous to you, but aren't particularly helpful. This is the case with myself. Satellite has too much latency (and we have no line-of-sight), the local phone company has no intention of ever laying fiber (and is considering a 5GB cap on DSL), and there are no competing cable companies. That's the case for me. Comcast or nuttin'. Maybe if I slip Eric a few bucks under the table, he can convince his bosses that the suburbs between Manassas and Dale City are a lucrative market just dying for FiOS. ;-) Simple solution don't deal with Comcast. All you poor folks in Comcast land should pick a day and cancel all your accounts on the same day. Tell them you hate the limit and won't tolerate using such an inferior service. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] VMs (was please help with VISTA)
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008, David K Watson wrote: Really? What software do you use? What kind of host system (RAM in particular)? From:mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been running various VM's on xp and vistanary a bug. Overhead? I don't have a screamin machine but it seems plenty fast enough. Mike On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:46 AM, David K Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: If Tom were to use virtualization, he'd be better off doing it on a Mac or Linux machine, because virtualization is notoriously buggy and runs with too much overhead on Vista. Hey! Does anyone else use my favorite virtual machine? UAE? It's an Amiga Emulator (what the U stands for depends on who you ask :-) ). Being able to access the genealogy data I had entered via an Amiga-only program called Scion saved me after my Amiga 3000 died. I also had some word processing documents in FinalWriter format. And I still like to play around with AmigaOS, as it was a nice, clean interface. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Movies on PC DVD drives
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008, gerald wrote: we subscribe to blockbuster. i have a hundered dollar player that has a chip that upgrades the dvd to fill in some of the dots. dvd failures are less than one in a hundred. We've only had problems a few times, on Netlfix DVDs that had seen better days. I also often watch DVDs on my home PC (running Fedora Linux so I use a program called Xine) and have never had a problem with that. At 06:20 PM 8/5/2008, you wrote: I have been having lots of bad luck viewing DVD's sometimes straight out of the box (these are either poorly manufactured or being resold from somewhere like Netflix). I have to assume it the quality of the DVD's because I try them on two different drives and some dvd's work okay. It does make me wonder though if there is a marginal improvement in reading movie DVD on stand alone dvd players than in my PC drives. Is the reverse true? Are they any higher quality dvd drives that make be able to read more or the data? Or is it more likely that I am just buying/playing lemons? -Paul Meyer -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile?
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Larry Sacks wrote: T-Mobile has a strong presence in Southern California... I was with them for about 35 days and their customer service people were beyond incompetent. Heck, you couldn't even get a decent at the local T-Mobile store. A decent _what_? -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] installing itunes or firefox ... which one should I do?
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, mike wrote: To say these programs will never interfere with your current setup is playing with fate...so I'll just say installing firefox should not interfere at all with anything you have going on that machine. At install time you can either choose to import your bookmarks...or not into the new browser. You can still use internet explorer as much as you like and firefox as little as you need to. One more tip: If you want IE to continue to handle the URLs/links that you click on in other programs (email, etc.), then, when Firefox asks if you want to make it the default browser, then say NO. On the other hand, Firefox is the default browser on my WinXP machine at work, and it seems to work fine for me. But, if you want to change things as little as possible... On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Elaine Zablocki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A group I belong to is offering information, and in order to access this information I need to install either iTtunes or Firefox. I'm currently using Windows XP Home and Internet Explorer 6.0.2900.2180. I am trying to avoid adding new, unfamiliar programs because of the risk they will interfere with my current system. My computer was built in December, 2004 and right now all my programs are about the same vintage and work well together. The group's computer guy tells me: ...i am sure that they [tech experts] will recommend that you start using firefox instead of internet explorer. there are no risks involved with firefox, and it will help you to avoid viruses and all kind of bad things that internet explorer will not warn you about. I already have an anti virus program and Zone Alarm... I just don't know what unpredictable things Firefox may do to my mix of programs mostly from 2003/2004. I hesitate to install a brand new program for an essential function like Web browsing. This is something I use every day for essential functions ... if I install Firefox, will something suddenly stop working? It sounds like I'm going to have to install either itunes or Firefox. I'm afraid that either one of them may interfere with my current functions; I'm afraid that either one of them may take a lot of time that I don't have to install and learn. Which one will cause me the least hassle? Which of the two is easiest to install... interferes least with other programs? Many thanks for your advice!! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Amazon's S3 service and Jungle disk or Google docs
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Paula Minor wrote: I didn't realize you had so much data Paula. Yeahmainly music/tv shows and around 250 GB photos. It was their price that convinced me to try itwell, there's no trial. You either buy it or not. If I'd been able to try it first, I'd have known it wasn't fast enough for me. But S3/ Jungle disk is probably more the kind of online storage tool for you. It will cost more and take more work on your part but give you the flexibility and scale you wan I looked into it when it first came out and I can't remember why I didn't try iteither way too expensive for what I need or it didn't have a Mac version. Does your backup need to be online (i.e. over the Internet)? It sounds like you might be better served by using an external (USB, Firewire, or eSATA) hard-disk. Get a 500GB unit (or more, prices are coming down, and your data will only increase over time). Actually, get two. Then, after doing your first backup, take it with you on your next trip to the office. (or to a friend or relative's house... somewhere you go at least once a week). Then, after doing your next backup, take the 2nd unit with your on your next trip, and bring the 1st unit back home. That way, you have an offsite backup (in case your house burns, floods, gets burgled, etc.). And you have another backup at home, in case your in-computer disk dies, and you need to do a restoration right away. And no more weeks-long initial backup over the Internet. And, while 2 external disks will cost a few hundred dollars, its a one time cost. (Well, one time until your backups outgrow the external drives.) What do you think? -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] dead drives fixed in freezer?
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Steve Rigby wrote: On Jul 2, 2008, at 12:43 PM, Janaki Kuruppu wrote: So, does someone have a scientific explanation for _why_ freezing works?? And, should you spin the drive up while still frozen, or allow it to thaw? As someone who has successfully used this technique, no, I did not let it thaw. I put it in the zip-lock baggy, put it in the freezer overnight. Then took it out of the freezer, out of the zip-lock, then connected it to a different computer as a secondary drive and booted it up. Then I was able to copy all the needed data off it (I did it in order of priority, getting most important data off first, in case it died again). -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Firefox 3 Bookmarks
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Fred Holmes wrote: In Firefox 3, is there any way to get back to the classic view of manage/organize bookmarks, i.e., the tree view? Now folders are shown in-line (vertically) with individual bookmarks, and if you open a folder, you lose the view of everything else but what is in the folder. Aside from the gotcha viewing, this would appear to mean that you can't drag a bookmark out of a folder, there being nowhere meaningful to drag it to. This is what I see when I open up my Organize Bookmarks window: http://www.steeds.com/vicky/ff3_bookmarks.png It has a tree view in the left pane, and a list of bookmarks in the selected folder on the right. Is this not what you see? In the organize [manage] bookmarks dialog, right-clicking on a bookmark produces a menu that no longer has properties as one of its options. How can one edit the name of the bookmark? Used to be able to do this straightforwardly. True, I'd like to have the old properties context-menu-item, but there is a properties pane on the bottom of the right pane. Is this not what you're looking for? Does this new interface really make sense? -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] reel-to-reel to CD/Audigy 2ZS
On Mon, 12 May 2008, Christopher Range wrote: Richard P. wrote: Are you speaking of Windows Sound Recorder or something else: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_Recorder_(Windows) If you are looking for a simple sound recording program, what about Audacity? Richard P. I am looking for sound recording program that is part of the Audigy 2ZS The Audigy 2ZS is your sound card, right? Or is it something else? If it's a card, any program which uses the OS's sound API should be able to use it, right? Now, if that card has special features, only supported by software from the vendor of the card (Creative?), that's another issue. (Sorry if I'm restating the obvious, but I haven't been paying close attention to this thread.) -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Comcast even faster?
On Sun, 11 May 2008, Jeff Wright wrote: That's what I wrote earlier. When d/l'ing the 133 MB file, I was consistently getting well over, around 9-10 mbs, the advertised speeds (6 mbs). At the last time I saw it advertised. Alas, that's not a global thing. I downloaded the same 133MB file over my Comcast connection (just outside Manassas) and got 6.103Mbps. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] UDPATE: Running a portable hard drive
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Snyder, Mark (IT Civilian) wrote: The rest of us all call it Firewire, including everyone in this thread. What is your point? My recollection is that Apple owns the trademark on Firewire, so other manufacturers have to call it IEEE-1394. Of course, it's easier to remember Firewire than it is to remember IEEE-1394, so all us humans call it Firewire. Apparently, some manufacturers decided to come up with their own (vendor-specific) names, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firewire Mark Snyder -Original Message- Firewire is still called other things by the other companies who helped develop it. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Decent SIP phone
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, John Mealey III wrote: Need a decent VOIP phone. Needs to take power over ethernet. Are there phones out there that people really like? Or, not really like? The only one I've ever used was this one. I used it when I worked at a VoIP company (we used it for interoperability testing). I don't think they make it any more, so support is probably not available. http://yhst-73657565785289.stores.yahoo.net/pingtel-xpressa-sipvoip-ip-phone.html -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Macbook pwned...again
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, mike wrote: Correction from me and for youI had read he had taken the mac because of the appeal of the hardware. The register reports that he chose the mac because quote 'I thought of the three it was the easiest'. There's a new article at ComputerWorld reporting essentially the same thing, plus it has a bit more details about the exact hardware and OS revisions being used for each of the 3 target platforms. http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9072959source=NLT_PMnlid=8 On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They wanted to get the Mac because that's where the cred and kudos lie. Any script kiddy can jack up a Windows box. Linux is tougher, as well as the Mac. In fact, they had to relax the rules of the contest after no one got into any of the systems via network. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Verizon DSL Service Dry Loop
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Tom Piwowar wrote: Vicky you prove my point. I thought she proved mine. She is in effect in a straightjacket and this prevents her getting DSL. Given complete freedon she would get DSL. Given _complete_ freedom, I said I'd choose FiOS. I haven't seen any technical discussion of how FiOS operates, but I don't think it's simply DSL over Fiber. For a few years, we had a farm in Maryland, and our only broadband choice there was Verizon DSL. It worked reasonably well, though the maximum bandwidth (640k down, 90k up) was less than we're getting with Comcast (which does vary, but the local (our end) variation seems less than the remote (server end) variation). That said, my criteria for getting internet service would be a combination of factors: total bandwidth, bandwidth per dollar, reliability (which is a combination of the physical media and how well it's maintained by the provider). Unfortunately, that last factor varies from cable company to cable company, and phone company to phone company, and even within a given company's territory. So, you just have to go on word of mouth, from people as close to you as you can find. And, of course, bandwidth is measured in really available bandwidth, not advertised bandwidth. And that can be even harder to find accurate numbers for, even more so than for reliability. Errr... I'll stop babbling now... All I meant to say was FiOS, not DSL. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Cable vs DSL ( was Verizon DSL Service Dry Loop)
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, mike wrote: Cable systems are built on ethernet technology, this is where the idea that you share your connection with the rest of the neighborhood, you are basically on the same network. Most if not all current cable modems are built to filter out packets not meant for your IP therefore the old story of opening up my computer and seeing your neighbors shared drives doesn't happen anymore. Security has been built into the modems hardware so both technologies are pretty much equal in security. Unfortunately, that relies on security built-in to cable modems. Some people have figured out how to put their cable modems into something called promiscuous mode (ethernet cards support this as well), which allows them to receive any packet being sent on the local wire (usually a neighborhood). This nice presentation describes some of the details (e.q. it's easier to snoop on traffic from the internet to your neighbor than vice versa): http://sfs.poly.edu/presentations/boris_cable%20modem%20sniff.ppt On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Fred Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Logical security? I don't see any basis for any difference. Physical security? No matter what's in the cable (copper twisted pair, copper coax, or fiber), there would be little difference, i.e. if it's strung on poles, a falling tree would part it, but physical strength would make some difference. Putting the wire/cable underground gives it much better physical security. Fred Holmes At 07:29 PM 3/15/2008, Stephen Brownfield wrote: All this cable/DSL talk got me wondering: Is DSL any more secure/safer than cable or vis-a-versa? -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Verizon DSL Service Dry Loop
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Tom you would fail miserably as a psychologist. Yes. I've been to Atlantic City once. I did no gambling at all but played on the beach. I have cable internet. Of course, the fact that DSL isn't offered in our area may have something to do with it. :-) Nor FiOS... which I'd probably get if it was available. At 05:33 PM 3/14/2008, you wrote: No. DSL does not work that way. You get the speed you pay for plus usually a small margin. You get it reliably. You don't get wild highs and lows. I have never thought about it this way, but perhaps the choice between cable and DSL is personality based. If you have a Las Vegas type of personality you go for cable, if you are a Cape May type you go for DSL. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Web Politicking
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, Brim wrote: Could it be that whatISmyip.org returns the white page with the ip address, but whatSmyip.org (no i) brings up the web page with the Obama add in the corner. Two different urls and web pages At least it is on my Firefox.. Brian wins the prize! Good eyes! That's the kind of thing that can drive people crazy for days, until someone peeks over your shoulder and says, Hey, those are spelled differently. And you bang your head on your desk for the rest of the afternoon. :-) -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Web Politicking
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008, Tom Piwowar wrote: I just noticed a small Obama 08 badge in the corner of the home page at whatismyip.org. I have not seen such politicking on non-political web sites before. Have others noticed such? Where? I don't see it. However, I have heard that some ISPs have begun intercepting web pages and inserting their own ads (I think it was some ISP in Canada... Rogers?)... Could that be what you're running into? Does anyone else see this ad? -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Web Politicking
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008, Tom Piwowar wrote: FWIW, I don't see anything but my IP at that url. Very interesting. When I access whatismyip.org using FireFox (Win) I get a white page with just my IP listed. Show source shows no HTML, just the IP number. When I access whatismyip.org using FireFox (Mac) I get a colorful page with my IP in big type, a What's New blog, a sidebar full of other services, and another sidebar full of Google ads. Is this Mac politicking? And Firefox on Linux gets the same thing you list for Firefox/Win. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Secondary DNS/MX service
Has anyone tried one of the low-cost secondary DNS services (i.e. I maintain the DNS zone files on my server, but synch to their servers, which have the benefit of being off-site)? I'm looking at zoneedit.com, but not yet sure if that's a reputable service. Also, if I can get backup MX (email server) hosting as well, from the same place, that would be a bonus. I'm mostly looking at reducing the number of servers I need to keep in my home office. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A windows 98 question
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, Stephen Brownfield wrote: He is running Win98 SE! It is a wireless PCI card. What utility under Win98 SE would let me know if it sees the wireless router? I know how to do that under the newer OS like XP, but how do I do it under Win98 SE? I don't think that it sees the router. I believe that may be the problem. My memory is a little rusty, but I think you can run the command winipcfg (Start Menu, Run), which will show you if you have an IP address (i.e. has the router given you one via DHCP, unless you statically assigned an address). That will also show you (I think) if you've been given a DNS address. Then maybe try Tom's suggestion of using an IP address (if that works, you may be getting the _wrong_ DNS address). Admiral Harris wrote: What kind of adapter? How is it connected? Is this Win98 SE? Is the utility able to see the wireless router? - Original Message - From: Stephen Brownfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 3:43 PM Subject: [CGUYS] A windows 98 question I work with individuals with disabilities. One young man needs to run Windows 98, because that is the newest system that will run some of his adaptive software. The home he lives in has wireless internet. He had a wireless card put into his computer about a year or so ago. About 2 weeks ago he said that he lost his internet connection. I went over to his home, the wireless connection still works for other computers. (I tested it with a laptop running XP.) I went to control panel System device manager and checked out the properties on his wireless card which said that the device was functioning properly. I looked at the card/antenna from the back of the computer. Its light was on and when I tried to look up something on the internet (a web page) the other light would start to blink as it looked for a connection. As I look at everything looks like it should work. What do you think might be wrong? Despite what the device manger says do you think it may be the card? Any advice would be greatly appreciated! -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac X family tree program needed
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, John H. Davis wrote: Can anyone recommend a program that will read and generate GEDCOM files. Mac OS 10.39 Free a Plus Not looking for bells and whistles. I currently use a program call Gramps, and though I use it on Linux, there seems to be a Mac OSX version as well... http://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Open source Project Management software?
On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, Matthew Taylor wrote: googling open source project management I came up with: http://www.openworkbench.org/ And a whole slew of others. I have not used any of them. The program I use is Gnome Planner (http://live.gnome.org/Planner) which is apparently also available on Windows (http://winplanner.sourceforge.net/). On Feb 5, 2008, at 1:03 PM, db wrote: I should have given you more information in my last post: It's for use by a non-profit art group for managing a large and complex yearly event. They have been doing it on paper and have basic non-professional computer skills. (Windows based). One office manager and several collaborators. They don't need an enterprise based tool. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Open source Project Management software?
On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, db wrote: Would you say that Gnome planner would be relatively easy for newbies to use and cover the project planning basics of the type of project I described? It's very easy if you've ever used Microsoft Project. It basically lets you create a list of tasks, assign a duration, who is assigned to it, what other tasks it depends on, etc. Then it will draw a nice Gantt chart. And you can then track progress as the project moves along. I'm not sure exactly what features you're looking for, but for what I've needed it's pretty simple. And, since it's free, it costs nothing (besides a bit of time) to try it out. Vicky Staubly wrote: On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, Matthew Taylor wrote: googling open source project management I came up with: http://www.openworkbench.org/ And a whole slew of others. I have not used any of them. The program I use is Gnome Planner (http://live.gnome.org/Planner) which is apparently also available on Windows (http://winplanner.sourceforge.net/). On Feb 5, 2008, at 1:03 PM, db wrote: I should have given you more information in my last post: It's for use by a non-profit art group for managing a large and complex yearly event. They have been doing it on paper and have basic non-professional computer skills. (Windows based). One office manager and several collaborators. They don't need an enterprise based tool. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Must see TV...Off Topic????
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, mike wrote: Yer right...never mind silly things like facts, as long as you think you are doing something yer ok. I'm curious what facts you think they got wrong? Do you contend that the Earth is NOT finite? Have you found a secret, infinitely long, penninsula of land somewhere? On Jan 11, 2008 11:11 AM, Steve Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 11, 2008, at 12:31 PM, mike wrote: You think a little off topic? Maybe you should have sent that to a moveon.org group. Informative seems to mean fast and loose. Why aren't you out shopping? Steve -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008, Jay Montero wrote: Build your own TIVO; That's what I did using MythDora. It's a Linux distro which runs MythTV. I get all my favorite OTA HDTV shows recorded and it looks amazing! OTOH... maybe this is not the thing for a Mac guy - the kind who likes to just fire something up and have it work perfectly right out of the box. :-) on Thu, 3 Jan 2008, Tom Piwowar wrote: Now I have 1 year to find a good deal on a Tivo HD. Hi Jay, I've been thinking about doing that myself. What hardware (especially graphics card) did you use? Did you get a (IR or other) remote control working? -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] I'm so confused...need simple instructions. was:Re:
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Paula Minor wrote: Tom P said: Normally, DSL should not do that. This implies that some bandwidth is being consumed by NACs. The speed measuring sites do not seem to register NACs. Tom, what is NAC? I think he means what I call NAK or Negative AcKnowledgement. In TCP, data which doesn't arrive at the destination (or arrives in corrupted form) must be transmitted. Every so often, each side will transmit an acknowledgement of what data has been successfully received by that side of the connection. If no acknowlegement of a piece of data is received within a certain amount of time, the sender of that data assumes it has been lost or corrupted, and must be retransmitted. It's this time spent waiting for an acknowledgement (ACK) and the repeated transmission of the lost block of data that lowers the effective bandwidth of your connection. Note: I _think_ that TCP only uses positive acknowledgement, and simply relies on the same timeout mechanism for both lost and corrupted data... i.e. it doesn't actually send a NAK when data is received but found to be currupted. (any of you other network geeks feel like checking the RFC to make sure I'm correct?) -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] The Worst Thing about Macs
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Tom Piwowar wrote: Let us know whether you own Apple or Microsoft stock or a fund that has MS or Apple stock. I have a fund that holds Microsoft stock, no Apple. This clearly influences my view of reality. I guess I should not go so easy on MS. I own a few shares of Disney, so the next time I refer to an operating system as a Mickey Mouse OS, take it with a grain of salt. ;-) -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] GoDaddy's registration agreement - speaking of priv
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, Randy wrote: The GoDaddy guy said all that is required is a legitimate address; doesn't have to be your personal address. I would give a legitimate street address. If you can tell me what legitimate societal purpose is served by ICANN not only having my home address and other personal information but having this available in a public registry, available for sale, then I'll consider putting down my home address or paying the extra cost to keep these private (effectively more than doubling the domain registration cost if using the GoDaddy privacy option). About 10 years ago, my web server was broken into by some hooligans in (I think Sweden). I saw several connection attempts from some IP addresses in Sweden and England. I was able to look up the domain to which these IP addresses belonged (a University in England, and some ISP in Sweden). By looking up the owners of the domain, I was able to let the admin in England know that their system had been broken into, and let the ISP in Sweden know that some of their customers were breaking the law. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Tom Piwowar wrote: I guess this is why even Oprah herself has a site and magazine, etc., to complement her show. Oprah has them to make a lot of money. While Oprah does accomplish much that is good I expect that you could be mighty disillusioned to find out that she is a very good businesswoman first and foremost. Actually, rather than disillusioned, I'm pleased to see at least one example showing that the two things (making a lot of money, and doing good in the world) are not mutually exclusive. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] born_with_it.??? [was: Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?]
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, b_s-wilk wrote: And while we are at it, why not this: Every legal citizen would ( at birth or whenever this would be implemented for everyone else) be automatically registered with one domain based on their legal name, with some unique identifier to distinguish identical names. This would be creepy. The birth domain name will be placed on an RFID tag injected into all newborns, until humans can be genetically modified to have domain names built into our DNA. Would that mean that I wouldn't be allowed to have my *.es *.ca and *.co.uk addresses or domains? Bad enough having spy cameras everywhere. Double creepy. Triple creepy. Apparently, some parents out there are picking baby names based on whether that domain name is available: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20378395/ -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] IP address Identification
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, mike wrote: If you are on windows open a command window and type tracert and the destination IP. This will give you a list of each hop. On mac open a terminal window and type the same. tracert 71.168.25.202 for example. I think Chris is looking for info on the Received: headers in an email message. A nice little discussion can be found here: http://abuse.msu.edu/email-tracking.html On 9/25/07, Christopher Range [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, While I am extremely grateful for that link, my quandry still exists, in that, when looking at all the IP info from a received e-mail, I have trouble following the route the message took from the originating PC, to mine. For instance, if you find my original post on this topic and, you make it so you can see all the IP addresses my original message went through, then, you possibly see the IP address of 192.168.1.101, that is my PC connected to a Linksys Router. The router is 192.168.1.100. I hope I made better sense this time? -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Google Earth SketchUp
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, David Turk wrote: I've just discovered these 2 programs. These applications fit perfectly with a project I'm working on. Does anyone have any experience with these? Also, is SketchUp Pro worth the $500, or are there better 3D modeling programs (I know there are more expensive)? This is my first foray into 3D modeling (*sigh*-another skill-set to learn...I guess I can dump all the info I have on making inter-negatives film processing from my memory core). tia. I've been experimenting with 3D modeling/rendering apps lately. In fact, I put up a page with some links: http://www.steeds.com/vicky/3d/ (as I use Linux at home, some of the apps may be Linux/Unix only, but at least a couple (Blender and Art of Illusion) are cross-platform). These are all free apps... Some of the bigger names (Lightwave, Maya, etc.) can be read about elsewhere. I've put the most effort into learning Art of Illusion, which has a much simpler interface than Blender, and can do just about everything I've asked it to do. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Youtube issues
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, John Mealey III wrote: You would be looking for just straight ms delay? I think he's thinking in terms of artificially limiting his bandwidth so that, even on a broadband connection, the download of a YouTube video takes more than 20 minutes... for example: wget --limit-rate=3600 -O tmp.flv http://youtube.com/some_video where some video is the path to get the actual flash video data (or something else relatively large). -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Piwowar Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:58 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Youtube issues I have been thinking if there was some way to artificially duplicate a slow connection to test your theory. I have a FTP client that allows me to throttle the data rate. I tried that, but YouTube would not let it log in. Does anybody have any ideas about how we could test the evil YouTube theory? -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Comcast bandwidth
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007, Chris Dunford wrote: Google is now doing the same thing with their video distribution service which includes Youtube. Says who? It is much more likely that it is your ISP doing it. I can't imagine Youtube having any financial incentive to throttle in this manner. I read the same thing about YouTube a few days ago, can't remember where. Whether it's true or not, I have no idea. There could be technical reasons. Operating systems contain internal tables with entities called sockets (this may be the same table, or a similar table to the one for open files). Each open network connection (from a particular YouTube server to a particular client) uses up an entry in this table. The table size is determined by available memory and a few other factors. If a bunch of people with dial-up connections tried downloading, they would each be using up entries in this table, and for a longer period of time. Some servers may be set to limit this amount of time simply to prevent Denial Of Service (DOS) attacks, or just to make more efficient use of server resources. I don't know that this is what's happening, this is just my guess. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Mega RAM for Games [Was: Vista or XP]
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, Art Clemons wrote: Tom Piowar: What could they be possibly doing with so much RAM? A 1680 x 1050 screen that is 48 bits deep = 11 MB. 512 MB = 46 screens of data if totally umcompressed (which would be silly). Moderately compressed this would hold 500 to 1000 screens. Anybody know what all this RAM is used for? Uh Tom, by now I'ld have expected you to note that video cards have to do more than remember screens, they also have to render them from the data presented by the computer, and also convert them from digital form to analog (that's right monitors aren't really digital for the most part). If you want 3D, you need even more ram to quickly render a picture. I expect to soon see 2 GB video cards in common usage for gamers and other high demand video users. To expand on Art's very good answer: To render the 3D scene, from various view points, and as the relative position of the objects change (due to ballistic trajectories and user-initiated movements), you need the raw data. This raw data includes the 3d point data of the various objects (mostly polygons fromed from lists of 3d points). Complicated objects can contain tens of thousands of polygons, but objects which are in games are optimized for quick display, so probably only have hundreds of polygons at most. Also, textures (flat images which are then mapped onto the polygonal faces of the 3d objects. In order to not be sending new objects and textures over the bus (AGP or PCI-express) to the graphics card memory all the time, recently used, and about-to-be-used, objects and textures are cached in the graphics card memory. Also, as an alternative (or supplement) to image textures, newer cards support programs written in shading languages which use the GPU to procedurally generate the pixel values across a 3D polygon face (or across the whole object). I'm still an amateur at 3D, but this is my understanding of what's going on. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Mega RAM for Games
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, Tom Piwowar wrote: Looks to me like you are describing brute-force calculation. The beauty of things like JPEG and MPEG is that they only render what the human eye perceives. That greatly reduces the computational burden. Looks like the game developers don't take such an approach. Well, they do many things which lower the cost of rendering any particular frame (using textures whose level of detail is appropriate to the distance at which the object is being viewed; culling object faces which face away from the viewer or which are behind some other object closer to the viewer). However, the distance to a given object and which objects are behind other objects vary during the time when you are running the software (game in most cases, perhaps architectural fly through type stuff does similar work), so a lot of this stuff can't be pre-computed. So, you might actually have multiple copies of a texture (for multiple levels of detail). The link which Mike sent brings up lots of other important points: double buffering (rending to off-screen buffer, so user doesn't see incompletely drawn scene), z-buffer (determines which pixels are in front of which other pixels, for cases where you can't do this on a complete polygon), other types of textures like light maps, bump maps, etc. The link also mentions full scene antialiasing, but that should only increase the size of the 2 (or more) scene render buffers (and the z-buffer). But it all adds up. To expand on Art's very good answer: To render the 3D scene, from various view points, and as the relative position of the objects change (due to ballistic trajectories and user-initiated movements), you need the raw data. This raw data includes the 3d point data of the various objects (mostly polygons fromed from lists of 3d points). Complicated objects can contain tens of thousands of polygons, but objects which are in games are optimized for quick display, so probably only have hundreds of polygons at most. Also, textures (flat images which are then mapped onto the polygonal faces of the 3d objects. In order to not be sending new objects and textures over the bus (AGP or PCI-express) to the graphics card memory all the time, recently used, and about-to-be-used, objects and textures are cached in the graphics card memory. Also, as an alternative (or supplement) to image textures, newer cards support programs written in shading languages which use the GPU to procedurally generate the pixel values across a 3D polygon face (or across the whole object). -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Firefox f-up
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, Harvey Simon wrote: OK, I opened Terminal. I typed: Firefox.exe -safe-mode Terminal responded: -bash: firefox.exe: command not found Being a Terminal virgin, I'm probably making an obvious mistake. But not obvious to me. Actually, the mistake wasn't yours. Suprisingly, Tom seems to have assumed you were using Windows. Try just firefox -safe-mode. -- Forwarded Message From: Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:54:38 -0500 Subject: Re: Firefox f-up Help. I made some modifications to Firefox on my iMac and screwed up somewhere. There are two problems: Start Firefox from the command line using the -safe-mode switch. You will get several options to assist with clean up. firefox.exe -safe-mode -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Who's my Legislator?
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007, John DeCarlo wrote: On 7/13/07, Fred Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would someone please try the following URL http://conview.state.va.us/whosmy.nsf/main?openform filling out the form and pressing lookup? Everything worked fine for me with Firefox 2.0.0.4 on Linux (Kubuntu Feisty) And it worked fine for me on: Firefox 2.0.0.3 (Linux - Fedora 7 -- personal laptop) Firefox 2.0.0.4 (WinXP SP2 -- work desktop) -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora and MIME
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Alvin Auerbach wrote: I use Eudora 6.2.4 for Mac OS 10. I just received a message containing this note: -- This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you might want to consider changing to a mail reader that understands how to properly display MIME multipart messages. -- [...] Is there a way to get Eudora to properly read MIME messages? Just had a thought. Is it possible that the message is not a properly formatted MIME message, and Eudora is not at fault? Yes. If you've ever received any messages with attachments, then Eudora can indeed handle MIME multipart messages. It looks like the message has some extra blank lines in the header before it gets to the Content-Type header, so Eudora is (correctly) interpreting the first blank line as the end of the headers. Without the Content-Type header, Eudora doesn't think the message is MIME based. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Disappearing windows
On Thu, 24 May 2007, Judy Cosler wrote: i'm running XP sometimes I can't find my windows. I can get to the hiddden window, by bringing up Windoze Task Manager. Another way of doing it is to cycle through the running applications with the Alt-Tab key-combo. By the way, Alt-tab also works in Gnome-based versions of Linux (KDE probably has an equivalent, but I don't know it). Tourbus Rider Stuart Carlow wrote: A friend told me of a problem he had, starting yesterday. He readily admits that he may have accidentally done something wrong, but he doesn't know what. No editorial comments please, but he's running Windows ME and when he minimizes a window, it no longer appears in his task bar, so he can't get back to it. If he's running Outlook and minimizes it, it doesn't appear in the task bar, but he says that if he clicks on the Outlook icon in the Quick Launch bar, then it does restore his Outlook to the state it was in before he minimized it. A puzzler. Any advice?Thanks! Stu -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Help! Debugging svchost.exe
On Wed, 16 May 2007, Tom Piwowar wrote: The Patch Watch section of the latest Windows Secrets newsletter had this to say about the svchost.exe bug: Thanks. If it acts up again I will know what to do. The problem went away as mysteriously as it arrived. Just saw this article about a trojan using Windows Update to do its dirty work, and thought that might explain some mysterious problems with WU. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6657677.stm -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] multi-core CPU's
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: Intel and AMD both have multi-core CPU's out now. I'm wondering how difficult it is to modify existing code to use this ability? We have some compute bound code that seems to have multiple threads, the vendor says that in their testing (from years ago) that multiple processors didn't help much (for their code). Now that multiple core CPU's and multiple CPU systems are becoming more common, are there applications which can use multiple cores effectively? Sure. The easiest case is when you are running more than one CPU-intensive application. Multiple threads within a single application will require more communication between them, and so will receive less of a speed-up (exactly how much depends on the application). Applications which are more I/O-intensive will also not benefit as much, as multiple CPUs don't speed up network or disk access. If you open up your OS's performance monitor (Task manager for Windows, System Monitor for Linux, etc.) and you see the CPU usage at or near 100%, then you definitely have one or more CPU- intensive applications. Some applications, though might receive less of a speed-up due to OS synchronization issues (I once worked on an app that did so many tiny memory allocations that running it on a multiple CPU machine actually slowed it down). -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] firefox using 99% of CPU ?
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007, db wrote: My firefox 2.0 started using 99% or such resources today. If I kill Firefox process, reboot the XP Pro computer and restart firefox choosing Restore Session it restores the previous windows, works normally for a a few minutes and then bogs the computer down again. I've tried this several times with the same results. Sounds like one of those pages has some nasty Javascript or Flash or something. After you do a Restore Session try closing the windows one by one, until the CPU utilization goes down. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
