[CTRL] This is too weird... Is it a key to something?
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[illusions] This is too weird... Is it a key to something? Date sent: Tue, 4 May 1999 04:44:02 -0400 Organization: BTICC.Net To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ftp://ftp.anomalous-images.com/pub/anomalou/xMarksTheSpot.jpg The attacked .jpg file is a map of the US with each of the six school shootings marked and lines connecting the dots. There are a number of other events and disasters (both natural and man made) which fall on either of these two lines. I was going to find a better map, gather all the locations of things, and plot the points. However, I do not have the time to devote to it. The NW to SE line is known as the 'Sollog Line of Tragedy' which can be researched at www.sollog.com. However, the site seems to provide just a taste of the information and you have to pay for the rest, and there are tons of commercials. Aside from the school shootings, the following events have fallen on the Sollog Line: ValueJet 542 crash in FL Jon Benet Ramsey murder Clinton support plane crash OKC bombing McVeigh's trial A-10 Crash in CO mtns. Last nights (19990503) tornados Several additional plane crashes A number of natural disasters and who knows what else The line on the attached map is just plotted with three points and not as accurate as when all points are plotted. The NE to SW line is is of a greater concern to me since it crosses right through my hometown (Canton, OH). There are at least three additional events which fall on or near this line. They are... Swissair 111 crash Waco massacre Littlerock Cincinatti Tornados The interesting thing about this map that knocks people over is the intersection of the two lines. Hope, AK, the birth place and hometown of Bill Clinton. Is it a divine sign? The signature of a psycho? It's too weird to be a coincidence. Especially considering that the events have all taken place since he took office. Since I do not have the time to put into this that I would like, I am posting it here as a project for list members. Lets determine what all falls on the line and where the lines extend beyond the US. It would also be very interesting to see where the lines cross in China. Everytime I look at that map, I get a gut feeling that I am looking at a piece of the key to something. Regards, Jerry Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CIA's Paramilitary Operations
-Caveat Lector- From: Activist Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Activist Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CIA's Paramilitary Operations Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 3:31 PM Activist Mailing List - http://get.to/activist 4/29/99 CIA's Paramilitary Operations A recent reference to retired CIA paramilitary officer Tony Poe or Tony Poshepny below, raises the question of CIA paramilitary operations in general. As we read these accounts we should ask, can we really expect that PM officers will ever produce intelligence? Did we not run a PM war in Vietnam for years without ever understanding the other side? Did we not conduct a PM war in Afghanistan that led to the creation of "International Terrorism?" Did not all PM wars contribute to the international drug traffic? Did not the CIA's committment to paramilitary wars engage this country in many other destructive activities? In a speech in October 1998, by John Millis, Staff Director of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI), he dicussed the future of the CIA. Millis is a former CIA operations who became Staff Director of HPSCI in 1997. Mr. Millis said re CIA paramilitary operations: "We believe we have to keep a very strong paramilitary capability on the shelf for the Directorate of Operations. It's always hard to anticipate what the next crisis is going to be, but we can be sure that it will be there. And the paramilitary capability the DO has is uniquely well suited for many of the types of situations that we're seeing around the world." The reference item on Tony Poe said: "...his life helped to create the greatest cinema icon to come of the Vietnam war. This man...is the real Colonel Kurtz, whose fictional counterpart was played by Marlon Brando in Francis Ford Coppola's epic movie Apocalypse Now... The reality of the Kurtz legend is far stranger than fiction... [It] confirmed the existence of a US super-spy code-named Upin. Upin was a pararmilitary expertLike the fictional Kurtz, he recruited a private army of 10,000 tribesmen, married a princess turned his back on the US and became as savage as the jungle he made his home." ...Agent Upin, also known as Pat Gibbs, was Anthony Poshepny, one of the CIA's most notorious and effective agents deployed in the Vietnam war. Orders were to enter Laos illegally in 1961 and conduct a secret war against the communists that would be denied in Congress and hidden from the US public" Ralph McGehee http://come.to/CIABASE The below are brief extracts from CIABASE files on Tony Poe. Laos, Tony Poe ran the secret ground war in Laos and kept pickled heads. Poe was a Hungarian refugee who began his CIA career training Khamba tribesmen to fight the Chinese in Tibet. Poe said "we got the Dalai Lama out of Tibet." In Laos he rewarded his men for producing the ears of communists. Harper's 7/85 60 Laos 53-75 book by Roger Warner, Back Fire: the CIA's Secret War in Laos and its Link to the War in Vietnam, (1995). Discusses Vang Pao of the Hmong tribesmen. The Secret War gained momentum - with Bill Lair - an ideological cold warrior, using Thai paratroopers to train the Hmong. Lair had his hqs in Udorn, Thailand. Tony Poshepny, an ex-marine of Hungarian origin - who had worked with the CIA's ops with the Khamba in Tibet and in Sumatra, Indonesia was ultimately thrown out of op, a broken-down drunk. This is a wry, compassionate narrative. "from 63 to 73, Laos was a secret annex to Vietnam war, overseen by the ambassador, run by CIA, and bombed by the U.S. military, without the consent of Congress." Warner focuses on CIA's misbegotten strategy of the Hmong counterinsurgency. A horrific tale of blindsighted do-gooders, ambitions and bungled intentions. Bill Lair/CIA recruited 10,000 Hmong. Clothed, fed and armed by CIA and trained by Thais, they helicoptered to elaborate skirmishes against the Pathet Lao and the North Vietnamese. At peak strength of 30,000 they were the only effective Lao army. Vang Pao took his cut from the opium trade. He deserted to the U.S. in 75, six months before the Pathet Laos' triumph. The Nation 9/18/95 288-90 Laos, China, 67-68 Tony Poe sent T-28 planes to bomb in China. Corn, d. (1994). Blond Ghost: Ted Shackley and the CIA's Crusades 154-5 Laos, Vietnam, 63 In 8/63 Lair received an order to disrupt NVN truck traffic thru Laos by blowing up parts of route 7. From an Air America plane, Tony Poe dropped demolition charges. Thais supervised twelve platoons of elite Meo troops called Special Guerrilla Units as they blew up a section. Warner, R. (1995). Back Fire 100-1 Laos, Thailand, Vietnam. Edgar Buell, Tony poshepny and William Young had personal imprint on secret war. Tony Poe in 58 was one of two operatives sent to support separtists revolt in Indonesia. His first assignment was with anti-Sihanouk mercenaries along the Cambodian border in South Vietnam. In Laos he offered one dollar for an ear of enemy and more for a head and cap.
[CTRL] Hogging The Table - March 18, 1996 Volume 147, No. 12 - Water Rights, too.
-Caveat Lector- http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/magazine/archive/1996/dom/960318/agriculture.html TIME Magazine March 18, 1996 Volume 147, No. 12 Return to Contents page HOGGING THE TABLE Corporate pig factories are supplanting traditional farms--and critics are raising a stink about it JOHN GREENWALD Colorado farmers Galen Travis and Jim Dobler have seen the future, and it stinks. Just upwind of their grain fields, a company called Midwest Farms, owned by hog entrepreneur Ronald Houser, plans to build an $80 million facility that will raise 450,000 hogs a year. From Colorado to the Carolinas, enterprising growers like Houser and agribusiness giants such as Cargill and Continental Grain are building such livestock factories to mass-produce hogs for packers like Hormel Foods and John Morrell. But even job-short rural communities are squealing, fearful of environmental problems and resentful of yet another mechanized assault on their way of life. In Colorado, Travis and Dobler are leading a fight to keep Midwest out. It's not just the olfactory affront posed by tons of reeking hog manure that worries them. The megafarm will lap up millions of gallons of water, threatening part of the Oglalla Aquifer, the underground lake that provides drinking and irrigation water to much of the western Great Plains. The farmers are also concerned that the deep lagoons where hog waste is stored could seep through the dry soil and pollute the aquifer. "We don't see any good coming of this," Travis says. "The hogs are only going to bring trouble." The vast livestock factories are a long way from the here-a-pig, there-a-pig operations of traditional hog farms. The plants turn out pigs as if they were piggy banks from football field--length buildings, where the animals are confined to small pens and fed, medicated and monitored with an exacting precision that fattens them to 265 lbs. in six months. Then it's off to slaughterhouses, where porkers become pork chops, spareribs and bacon. These porkopolises are multiplying like rabbits across the U.S. The newcomers increased their share of the $30 billion U.S. pork industry from 7% to 17% between 1988 and 1994; experts say the factories will live higher on the hog by the end of next year, capturing nearly 30% of the market. Don't expect the factory pigs to be entered in the county fair. "There's a serious question as to whether these facilities can still be called agriculture," argues Nancy Thompson, staff attorney for the Center for Rural Affairs in Walthill, Nebraska, which opposes the megafarms. "They are more like a commercial industry than a farm." The march of commerce is being challenged by environmentalists and advocates of rural values. In North Carolina, where a population of 8.5 million hogs exceeds the state's 7.2 million people, opposition surged last summer after a rain-swollen lagoon spilled 22 million gal. of hog feces and urine over the countryside. At a "Hog Summit" two weeks ago, environmental activists made 12 recommendations to the state, including measures to reduce odors and limit the construction of farms near watersheds. In Kansas, voters in 12 of the 14 counties that have put factory farms on the ballot in recent years have elected to keep them out. In Nebraska, a state ban on corporate farms has sharply slowed their growth. Elsewhere, opponents have used zoning and environmental laws to block plans for new farms. Residents are also seeking to shut plants now in operation. "The smells are horrendous," complains Carla Smalts, an Oklahoma farm wife who has sued to prevent a pig palace from opening near her home. She's also helping to coordinate anti-hog farm movements in five states. In Colorado, where water rights are often a heated issue, Travis, Dobler and an organization called Alliance Conserving Tomorrow used state groundwater laws that restrict new wells to stop Midwest Farms from drilling on the 8,000 acres that it is acquiring for its site. Nationally, the battle may be decided at the dinner table. Health-conscious Americans are eating more of "the other white meat." Thanks in part to marketing campaigns that stress the low fat content of pork, consumption in the U.S. has edged up, from 49 lbs. per capita to 53 lbs. during the past nine years, even as beef consumption has fallen, from 79 lbs. per capita to 68 lbs. (Americans eat poultry, the current king of the table, at the per-capita rate of 73 lbs. a year.) The lofty goal of the National Pork Producers Council is to overtake beef by the year 2000. Growing even faster are U.S. exports of pork, which have quadrupled, to 720 million lbs. a year over the past eight years. There are a few towns--hamlets, if you will--where the factories are being welcomed. Rol Hudler, mayor of Burlington, Colorado (pop. 3,000), smells prosperity in the 200 jobs Midwest Farms has promised to bring to town. "The benefits for us will be mind boggling," Hudler says. For his part, Midwest president
[CTRL] Time Magazine: Lean Times on the Farm --PAGE 1-- Jan 13 1999 - Hogs
http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/magazine/articles/0,3266,18026,00.html Title: Time Magazine: Lean Times on the Farm --PAGE 1-- Jan 13 1999 TIME.com Home TIME Daily From TIME Magazine Web Features TIME Digital Breaking News Boards Chat Magazine Archives Search TIME.com Subscribe to TIME Subscriber Services SEARCH: FORTUNE.com Nine Ways to Winat E-Business MONEY.com The Small-CapConundrum PEOPLE.com First Arrest inLittleton Case ASK DR. WEIL.com Who's Afraid ofBeet Juice? ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY.com 'The Matrix':Bound for a Sequel MORE: CNN CNN Pathfinder CNNSI CNNfn FORTUNE Money LIFE Ask Dr. Weil Dr. Ruth ParentTime ASIAWEEK SI For Kids TIME For Kids T r a v e l & Leisure --- Shopping Giftfinder Time Inc. Newsstand Computer Products Total E Music Barnes OfficeDepot --- Custom Sites Cars Cyber Awards TIME 100 Bookstore TIME Almanac 1999 TIME.com Book Deals Books for Mom Movies for Mom Music for Mom barnesandnoble: books TotalE: music & video Outpost: computer stuff Talk to TIME editorsand newsmakers on JANUARY 11, 1999 VOL. 153 NO. 1 Lean Times on the Farm If hog prices are so low, why isn't pork cheaper? Struggling farmers want help--and some answers BY DANIEL EISENBERG It's an irony that makes Gary Muller's financial troubles that much harder to bear. If the Iowa hog farmer were to hang out at a local supermarket, he might suspect that his business was thriving as never before. After all, there's no lack of customers buying pork chops or roasts for dinner; and in spite of the Asian economic woes that devastated most American farmers in 1998, pork exports keep on growing. But while Americans pay top dollar for their hams or BLTs, Muller and the rest of America's 115,000 hog farmers may as well give their animals away (some are doing that). His 220-lb. pigs, which a little over a year ago fetched 60cents per lb., now command around 15cents per lb. When he's not selling his livestock at a loss, he's trying to rearrange his bank payments and save his century-old family farm from going under. "We're getting killed out here," he says. The pigs, on the other hand, can't be killed fast enough--though 2 million a week are being butchered. And therein lies the problem. Hog farming, until recently the most profitable sector in agriculture, is stuck in the mud. A glut of live pigs on the market, exacerbated by a sudden drop in slaughterhouse capacity, has pushed the price of pigs down to levels not seen since the Depression. "It's a lethal mixture," says Al Tank, CEO of the National Pork Producers Council. Across the South and Midwest, farmers are losing thousands of dollars a day, drifting deeper into debt and near bankruptcy; fully 20% could be belly-up by spring. A government forecast on the hog supply last week promised little relief. "It's the most serious agricultural crisis in this century for an individual commodity," says Gilbert Hollis, a professor at the University of
[CTRL] Infowar on the Home Front?
-Caveat Lector- I just learned that *all* of the Democratic members of the Pennsylvania General Assembly were hit with the Melissa e-mail virus today. The variant they got was the one that sends out a list of pornographic websites... "Indeed do many things come to pass." Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Corporate Farm Subsidy
http://userpages.itis.com/4lakes/news/bigpigs.htm Title: Corporate Farm Subsidy Corporate Farms causing Problems Thanks in part to government-provided subsidies to overproduce, hog prices are near an all-time low. The federal government's solution? Another subsidy, with factory farms likely to be the principal beneficiaries. Vice President Al Gore recently announced that the USDA would buy $15 million in pork in an effort to bolster prices. And on the Hill, there's even been discussion of exporting the pigs themselves, as breeding stock for Third World nations!This band-aid comes too late to give much solace to the thousands of family farmers that the factory farmers have pushed off the land. The multi-national farms, more interested in short-term profits than long-term sustainability, produce a glut, wipe out the competition, and then reap the benefits of a belated government subsidy to relieve the glut. Rather than addressing the out-of-control environmental and economic problems of industrial agriculture, the Administration offers another trip to the public trough. Send a message to USDA Secretary Dan Glickman: Issue a MORATORIUM on any new hog and chicken factories, start regulating the ones we've got, and support family farms rather than factory farms. Dan Glickman Secretary of Agriculture c/o Sierra Club 408 C. St., NE Washington, DC 20002-5818 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more information on the Corporate Farming Issue Read up on the Sierra Club report on CAFOs, or confined animal feeding operations and the environmental and economic impact they are having Read Invasion of the Corporate Swine in the newest issue of the Planet
[CTRL] Lawmakers warn of high-powered sniper rifle sales
-Caveat Lector- Lawmakers warn of high-powered sniper rifle sales By JIM ABRAMS Associated Press Writer May 4, 1999 Web posted at: 9:34 a.m. EDT (1334 GMT) WASHINGTON (AP) Military sniper rifles like those used to stop Iraqi tanks during the Gulf War are now in the hands of thousands of civilians, including suspected terrorists and drug dealers, according to congressional investigators. Agents from the General Accounting Office, the investigative wing of Congress, found that long-range, armor-piercing .50-caliber rifles are readily available through dealers, gun shows and the Internet. Buyers only need to prove that they are 18 years old and don't have a criminal record. The agents also told a Democratic-organized hearing Monday that sellers of armor-piercing ammunition used in the semiautomatic weapons were willing to do business with them even when the agents, pretending to be buyers, said they wanted to attack armored limousines or "take a helicopter down." GAO agent Robert Hast said the long-range weapons gained popularity after they were used to attack Iraqi tanks in the 1991 Persian Gulf War. The weapons are highly accurate up to 2,000 yards meaning a marksman could stand at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington and hit a target at the Pentagon in Virginia and can be effective at distances of 7,500 yards. Most deer hunters, by contrast, shoot at ranges of 150 to 200 yards. Gast said that because gunmakers are not required to provide information on the caliber of weapons they sell, it's not clear how many of the high-powered weapons are in circulation. But one major producer sold more than 2,800 to civilians in the 1987-98 period, he said. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms has tracked several of those sniper rifles to a Mexican drug cartel, suspected terrorists, a mentally ill cop killer and the Branch Davidians during the 1993 siege near Waco, Texas. "There is a subculture growing in this country about the use of these weapons," said Tom Diaz of the Violence Policy Center, calling them "the ideal tool for assassination and destruction." Diaz urged Congress to pass legislation putting .50-caliber rifles under the same restrictions imposed on machine guns and weapons of war, and banning armor-piercing ammunition. Rep. Rod Blagojevich, D-Ill., who commissioned the investigation with Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., plans to offer legislation restricting sales of the weapon. James Schmidt, head of an Arizona ammunition manufacturer and a director for the 50-Caliber Shooters Association, said the rifles were not a social threat because they were heavy, costly at more than $6,000 and difficult to use for rapid-fire shooting. "This is not a rifle that one would carry very far," he said. Diaz said the weapons were being sold in "an increasingly weird cultural context" that "glorifies the sniper mystique." He said two .50-caliber sniper rifles were used by the Branch Davidians in the 1993 siege near Waco, Texas, one reason law enforcement officials had to use armored personnel carriers. = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Feed Lots - This is out of date, but might still be of intrest
-Caveat Lector- http://userpages.itis.com/4lakes/news/animal_feedlots.htm Animal Feedlots Water Quality Forum Copies of the draft strategy can be obtained from the Internet at http://www.nrcs.usda.gov or http://www.epa.gov/owm/afostrat.htm Second Session to be held in Eau Claire December 3rd. Read Details The U.S. Department Of Agriculture Natural Resources Conservation Service and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency are seeking public comment on their recently released draft Unified National Strategy for Animal Feeding Operations. The two agencies will hold a joint "listening session" on Monday, November 30, at the Sheraton Madison Hotel, 706 John Nolen Drive, Madison, Wisconsin. Registration for anyone wishing to speak begins at 12 noon. The session starts at 12:30 and ends at 4 pm. The session is being held to provide basic information about the draft strategy, to answer specific questions, to give interested individuals a chance to provide feedback, and to help facilitate the submission of written comments about the draft strategy. The goal of the Unified National Strategy is to take actions to minimize threats to water quality and public health caused by animal feeding operations, while ensuring the long-term sustainability of livestock production in the United States. The strategy is part of the Clinton Administration's Clean Water Action Plan. "There are no two issues more critical to Wisconsin than agriculture and water quality," said Pat Leavenworth, State Conservationist for the USDA Natural Resources Conservation Service (NRCS) in Wisconsin. "With this Strategy, we are looking for the best way to protect and improve both.We need and want to hear from all sides of the issue to make this a workable, successful effort.""Rural and urban runoff account for more than half of all water pollution, and runoff from animal feeding operations in particular has been associated with threats to human health and the environment," said David A. Ullrich, Acting EPA Regional Administrator. "The draft strategy proposes steps to protect our rivers and streams from that runoff but we want to hear the views of the affected public before we make a final decision." The session will include an overview of the draft strategy and two and a half hours for comments. A sign language interpreter will be available. Copies of the draft strategy can be obtained from the Internet at http://www.nrcs.usda.gov or http://www.epa.gov/owm/afostrat.htm Official written comments will not be accepted at the listening session, but addressed envelopes will be provided for mailing comments. Comments may be mailed through January 19, 1999, to Denise C. Coleman, Program Analyst, USDA Natural Resources Conservation Service, ATTN: AFO, P.O.Box 2890, Washington, D.C. 20013-2890, or e-mailed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This Listening Session is one of 11 held in the nation. The other locations and dates are: LOCATION DATE Tulsa, OK 11/16/98 Harrisburg, PA 11/17/98 Ontario, CA 11/23/98 Madison, WI 11/30/98 Seattle, WA 12/03/98 Des Moines, IA 12/04/98 Chattanooga, TN 12/09/98 Indianapolis, IN 12/10/98 Fort Worth, TX 12/10/98 Denver, CO 12/14/98 Annapolis, MD 12/15/98 For more information, contact Renae Anderson, USDA-NRCS, at 608-276-8732x227, fax 608-276-5890 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Participants may also register to speak between 12-12:30 on the day of the session. The Sheraton is located across from the Dane County Coliseum, on the John Nolen Drive exit (north) of Hwy 1218. The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) prohibits discrimination in all its programs and activities on the basis of race, color, national origin, gender, religion, age, disability, political beliefs, sexual orientation, and marital or family status. (Not all prohibited bases apply to all programs.) Persons with disabilities who require alternative means for communication of program information (Braille, large print, audiotape, etc.) should contact USDA's TARGET Center at 202-720-2600 (voice and TDD). To file a complaint of discrimination, write USDA, Director, Office of Civil Rights, Room 326W, Whitten Building, 14th and Independence Avenue, SW, Washington, DC 20250-9410 or call (202) 720-5964 (voice or TDD). USDA is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Second Session Held in Eau Claire Animal Feeding Operations Strategy - Meeting in Eau Claire A second Listening Session on the Draft Animal Feeding Operations Strategy will be held in
[CTRL] Colorado Sheriff Fingers Family Critical of Police
-Caveat Lector- So...criticize the cops, and what do you get? === Colorado Sheriff Fingers Family Critical of Police Reuters 04-MAY-99 LITTLETON, Colo., (Reuters) - The investigation into the Columbine High School massacre took a sour turn on Tuesday as a sheriff voiced suspicions about a teen whose parents accused his department of shrugging off warnings about the gunmen. Since the April 20 massacre in which 15 people died at the school, Judy and Randy Brown have charged that police did not follow up complaints that Eric Harris, one of the gunmen, had threatened their son Brooks over the Internet. In a TV interview on Tuesday, Jefferson County Sheriff John Stone hit back, saying it was suspicious that Harris warned Brooks Brown to stay out of the school building on the day of the shooting. "Brooks Brown could possibly be a suspect. Brooks Brown's statements ... got some irregularities in them. Mr. Brown as well as several others are in the investigative mode," the sheriff said on the "Today" show on NBC. Stone has come under fire for making statements that his spokesman later had to retract, including one in which he said that three teens arrested near the school on the day of the shooting were suspects, when, in fact, they had been cleared of any involvement. He also gave an early death toll in the massacre as up to 25. The sheriff's office said Stone was busy in meetings all day and would not be available to comment further on his interview. But the Browns were furious. Randy Brown, father of Brooks, said the FBI does not consider his son a suspect in the case and that Stone and local police were looking for scapegoats. "It's incredible, it's wrong. He should be ashamed of himself," the elder Brown told the "Today" show. His wife Judy added, "Brooks tried to stop this and now Brooks is being blamed for it." Randy and Judy Brown told police in March 1998 that Harris threatened their son Brooks via the Internet. But the complaint was dropped because investigators could not locate the Web site and because the Browns requested anonymity, Jefferson County Lt. John Kiekbusch said last week. "We got some information on kids that didn't get along," Kiekbusch said. But the failure to heed the warning has put authorities on the defensive. Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17, who broke into a car in early 1998, were forced to attend a special program for youth offenders and ended up with glowing reports from a supervisor in the program. The Denver Rocky Mountain News reported on Tuesday that Brooks Brown was supposed to be singing with the school choir at a memorial service on Sunday, but that he left the stage after classmates taunted him. A spokeswoman at the school district said she was not aware of the incident. Stone also said he still believed police would find more people involved in the conspiracy to attack the high school in this affluent suburb southwest of Denver. "I'm convinced the evidence will (indicate) there were more people involved ... New names are popping up ... We've got names," Stone said. More than 100 investigators have been working for two weeks but police have arrested only one man in the case. On Monday, police arrested a man suspected of providing a semi-automatic handgun to Harris and Klebold. The attorney for Mark Manes said his client knew nothing about the plans to attack Columbine High School and was devastated. If convicted, Manes could go to prison for up to six years. Police said Klebold's 18-year-old girlfriend, Robyn Anderson, furnished the gunmen with three rifles also used in the shooting. She has cooperated with police, but Jefferson County Sheriff's spokesman Steve Davis said as of Monday she had not been exonerated, although she was still being considered a witness rather than a suspect. Copyright 1999 Reuters Limited.All rights reserved. = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and
[CTRL] U.S Sets up New Anti-Drug Bases in Curacao, Aruba
-Caveat Lector- U.S Sets up New Anti-Drug Bases in Caribbean Basin Reuters 04-MAY-99 MIAMI, May 4 (Reuters) - The U.S. military is mounting counter-drugs operations from new bases in Ecuador and the Dutch Caribbean islands of Curacao and Aruba as a result of the U.S. withdrawal from Panama, the U.S. Southern Command said Tuesday. The new operations centres, set up at existing facilities in the three locations, will improve the military's ability to watch drug-source countries in South America and to track suspicious planes and boats through the Caribbean. "We're developing a new theatre of architecture for the drug operations," Southcom spokesman Raul Duany said. U.S. Air Force, Army, Navy, Coast Guard and Customs surveillance and tracking aircraft will be deployed to the new "forward operating locations" as a front line in the U.S. war on narcotics traffic from the Andean region through the Caribbean to the United States. Drug trafficking cartels have for decades moved marijuana and cocaine by boat and airplane from production bases in South America to transshipment sites on Caribbean islands and on to the United States, their primary market. Although 50-70 percent of the illicit drug traffic now flows up the eastern Pacific or across the Mexico border, Caribbean smuggling remains a "huge problem," U.S. drug czar Barry McCaffrey said recently. Despite disruption of the famed Colombian cocaine cartels, land under coca plant cultivation in Colombia increased by 26 percent last year as smaller operatives moved into the void, U.S. drug officials have said. Coca plants provide the raw material for cocaine. Curacao and Aruba are Dutch islands in the southern Caribbean just off the coast of South America. The base at Manta, Ecuador, gives the United States an operations centre in the Andean region, Duany said. The forward locations will give the United States a greater capability to monitor sources countries than did the old air centre at Howard Air Force base in Panama, which ceased operations May 1 as a result of the 1977 Panama Canal treaty, officials said. The 1977 treaty mandates the U.S. withdrawal and transfer of the canal to Panama by Dec. 31. "With all three forward operating locations, we will have 110 percent of the capability we had out of Howard Air Force Base," Gen. Charles Wilhelm, commander of Southcom, told the Senate Arms Services Committee in Washington last week. The three locations -- at commercial airports in Curacao and Aruba, and at a military base in Ecuador -- will give U.S. anti-drugs operatives better access to Andean producers and southern Caribbean trafficking routes, Duany said. "If we were to fly out of MacDill (air base near Tampa), by the time you get to the source zone you have to refuel," Duany said. "In theory the crews could refuel and rest ... closer to the heart of the problem." The forward locations will be backstopped by a "second tier" of defence in Honduras, at the U.S. Naval Base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and at the Roosevelt Roads Naval Air Base in Puerto Rico, Duany said. About a dozen military personnel will be stationed at each of the new centres, mostly for air traffic control, maintenance and communications, he said. The Joint Interagency Task Force that coordinates anti-drugs operations has consolidated its headquarters at Key West, Florida. Copyright 1999 Reuters Limited.All rights reserved. = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
[CTRL] U.N. panel recommends steps to ban Internet domain name abuse
-Caveat Lector- U.N. panel recommends steps to ban Internet domain name abuse May 3, 1999 Web posted at: 2:35 p.m. EDT (1835 GMT) NEW YORK (AP) -- A United Nations organization has recommended steps to effectively ban speculating and pirating of Internet addresses, a practice known as cybersquatting. The recommendations by the World Intellectual Property Organization mark the first effort by an official governing body to set international rules for registering Internet domain names. The WIPO also outlined provisions that could allow owners of internationally known trademarks the ability to claim first rights to Internet domains bearing their names, the New York Times reported Monday. The report was issued Friday to the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, an international nonprofit organization that will oversee the Internet's addressing system. ICANN is opening the business of registering domain names to competition and plans to expand the number of so-called top level domains beyond the current .com, .net and .org. The WIPO report recommends the ICANN require anyone who registers a domain name to first sign a contract that would bar "abusive" registration practices, defined as registering names that are identical or misleadingly similar to a trade or service mark. The contract would also bar selling, renting or otherwise transferring the domain name to the owner of the trade or service mark, or to a competitor of the owner of the trade or service mark. If cybersquatters were deemed to break the rules following a mandatory arbitration process, they could lose their domain names and be required to pay the bill for resolving the disputes, the Times reported. Cases between companies or people with similar names or claims to the same domain would go either to voluntary arbitration or to court. Under the proposed rules, ICANN would establish a list of protected "famous or well-known marks" that would not be available for registration to the average Internet user. Copyright 1999 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] A Modest Proposal
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Robert Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] At the risk of being massively flamed, I am compelled by a sense of what I can only call spiritual and emotional maturity to propose that the time has come to repeal the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. In some forums [fora?] you might indeed be flamed, but not here on CTRL. Let me [as co-moderator] remind readers that personal attacks and criticisms are inappropriate here. This is not UseNet. Critique the writings, not the writer. Any poster here may express totally insane ideas, but the poster him/herself is always an intelligent person of sparkling character. Selah! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Electromagnetic Bomb Used in Belgrade?
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Mon, 3 May 1999 20:57:21 -0400 (EDT) To: IUFO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: IUFO: Electromagnetic Bomb Used in Belgrade? Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] These posts from EWAR-L, albeit short, suggest possible use by NATO of electromagnetic pulse weapons. We are being cautious in our assessment. Nevertheless, there may be a tell-tale pattern of earthquake following NATO bombing runs. Certainly it was striking enough to have been reported on CBC WITH NO OTHER SEISMIC ACTIVITY REPORTED IN THE AREA There is independent apparent verification that a new type of munitions has been developed which causes "artificially-induced quakes." Perhaps we may be witnessing a true case of that very rarely proven "tectonic warfare". Has anyone run across similar patterns? Many thanks, Geri DeStefano, PhD Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd Vancouver, BC = POST #1 = Ironically, we have been researching this subject. Any information which you may have concerning the possibility of EMPs that are related to the bombing in Belgrade would be appreciated. We have recorded signatures that point to a new type of munitions causing artificially induced quakes. Charlie Plyler Elfrad Group http://www.elfrad.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CBC radio last night (4/29) carried a news report of a tremor in Belgrade following NATO bombing the night before. Has anyone heard a similar report? EMP has been found to accompany or precede local tremors or earthquakes, and that's the relevance of the question. Thanks, Alfred snip = POST #2 = snip SIGHTINGS INTERVIEW: Steve Douglass: Recording Current Military Transmissions. Are the Yugos getting bombed or cooked and quaked by E-weapon? Track to second half of show [on RealAudio April 30]. http://www.broadcast.com/shows/endoftheline/99archives.stm snip EWAR-L Electronic Warfare Mailing List To unsubscribe or subscribe: send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text: unsubscribe EWAR-L or subscribe EWAR-L. To post messages, send to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Previous posts: http://www.sonic.net/~west/ewar/digest.htm. EWAR Web site: http://www.sonic.net/~west/ewar/ewar.htm. -Wes Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED], list owner == Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] A Modest Proposal
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/3/99 6:08:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At the risk of being massively flamed, I am compelled by a sense of what I can only call spiritual and emotional maturity to propose that the time has come to repeal the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. This is not the answer. At issue is the right to defend oneself, and guns offer that to many people. People do have an inalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Having a weapon, whether it is a gun or not is necessary in order to insure those right, at least sometimes, and especially so today. It is NEVER the instrument that is the culprit, but ALWAYS the wielder of the instrument. By themselves guns are no more deadly than a big stone, but if used they both can kill. It takes a killer to kill, or perhaps mind controlled assassins, which most of the people here would agree is a possibility. If Johnny goody-two-shoes takes a gun and kills little Jimmy then Johnny is the problem, NOT the gun. Yes, guns are the source of too much reverence, and yes their proliferation is a sad statement on the nature of today's society, but outlawing them will not solve anything. Drugs are illegal, murder is illegal, rape is illegal, assault is illegal, but they all STILL occur in huge numbers. Which is just another reason why guns should NOT be illegal. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Flaw in Capitalist system
-Caveat Lector- "M.A. Johnson" wrote: -Caveat Lector- MJ: I contract with you ... I pay you $20, you paint my front porch. THIS is capitalism. Where is the state you were requiring? Das GOAT wrote: First off, it's NOT capitalism. It's simply an economic exchange -- "barter," mediated by money, i.e., a transferable "right" to goods at value, "earned" by labor, traded for labor. Now, if you contracted with me to paint your front porch, it cost me $20 in labor and materials to do it, and you only paid me $10 --making MONEY "FOR NOTHING," but your PROFIT of $10 only paid for by MY loss-- THAT would be capitalism. MJ: No force here only your stupidity in contracting without concern for you benefit -- unless of course it was your intention for charity. Serious flaw here buddy. Even stupid people have the right not to be ripped off by sharpsters. Capitalism is the social system based upon private ownership of the means of production which entails a completely uncontrolled and unregulated economy where all property is privately owned. It's not a social system, but an economic system. It also happens to be an economic system that rots the social system it coexists with. This country is a good example of that. Post communist Russia is an even better example of that. Crime and corruption are the indicators of rot in a social system. Need I say more? But the separation of the state and the economy is not a primary, it is only an aspect of the premise that capitalism is based upon: individual rights. Capitalism is the only politico-economic system based on the doctrine of individual rights. This means that capitalism recognizes that each and every person is the owner of his own life, and has the right to live his life in any manner he chooses as long as he does not violate the rights of others. So then it is OK in your opinion to choose an economic system other than capitalism if enough of us use our individual rights to do so. Isn't that correct? And if that should happen, all you hard core rugged individualists would be free to leave this country and move to Russia where true Capitalism flourishes. Have a nice trip. Dress warmly, and don't forget your gun. Bon Voyage mon ami, Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Flaw in Capitalist system]
-Caveat Lector- "M.A. Johnson" wrote: Capitalism is the only politico-economic system based on the doctrine of individual rights. This means that capitalism recognizes that each and every person is the owner of his own life, and has the right to live his life in any manner he chooses as long as he does not violate the rights of others. As demonstrated in the previous example no government intervention is required; but more specifically, once the government steps in, capitalism ceases. Regard$, --MJ Property is prior to law; the sole function of the law is to safeguard the right to property wherever it exists, wherever it is formed, in whatever manner the worker produces it, whether individually or in association, provided that he respects the rights of others. -- Frederic Bastiat Ah, here is the crux of the problem. This person, and and capitalists in general would like everyone to take on their belief system. Individualism, individual rights, and the ever so lovely PROPERTY IS PRIOR TO LAW. These twisted apostles of greed and arrogant stupidity are just simply selfish bastards inventing justifications for their sorry assed selves. Who in their right mind would claim that " property is prior to law?" Not only isn't this factual in all of human evolution, but it's a pathetic indication of a warped and sick personality. Property is not prior to law but only exists because your society allows it to exist. The moment you have too much property and others don't have enough for sustenance, you will learn what is meant by " eat the rich." If you don't think this is true, I suggest you bone up on the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, the Cuban Revolution, etc. Capitalism can not work because no society or economy is sustainable if it's run by capitalists. Pretty soon they monopolize everything they think is valuable or worthwhile. Like the businesses that are most profitable, and whatever political system is extant. When the nation state, even the super state, becomes too small for their wealth, greed, and lust for power to maintain that wealth, they simply decide to do away with the nation state, despite the fact that the rest of us are not interested in doing so. It's interesting how Libertarians, Conservatives, and Liberals, get their bowels in an uproar about all the kinds of issues that manifest in a degenerate and declining civilization like the West is, but somehow manage to overlook the rotten root ( rad ) of the problems. Each group easily sees the bullshit and hypocrisy in the others but not in themselves. All the worst aspects of this society traces directly to the economic system that allows just about everything as long as someone makes a profit. It's the economy stupid. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Balkan War to Secure Oil Routes as necessary domination?
-Caveat Lector- Yugoslavia: A New War for Loot http://uns.org/yugo/loot.htm Unlimited News Service Yugoslavia: a New War for Loot by Michel Colon Humanitarian war? No. The NATO bombardments have worsened the situation of all the inhabitants of Kosovo-as foreseen, and desired. For NATO needs victims to justify its aggression against a sovereign state, and in complete violation of international law. What are the real objectives of Washington, Berlin, and their consorts? 1. Control oil transport routes. 2. Recolonize and exploit East Europe. 3. Weaken Russia, thus give the West the means to pillage the whole of Asia. 4. In order to realize the foregoing, impose NATO as the gendarme of the world, starting with assurances of military bases in this strategic region. All of these objectives are tied together. The most important, at this point, is the preparation for an attack on Russia. Most important: on each of these objectives, Washington and Berlin are at the same time in unity and in rivalry. Each tries to use the other so it can grab the cake. In short, a new war for loot. A war for the profits of the multinationals, a war to break the resistance of the peoples. Objective No. 1: Always, the Battle for Oil "The oilfields of Kazakhstan, the gas fields of Turkmenistan, and the enormous offshore reserves of black gold of Azerbaijan, make up a zone that can gain, over the next fifty years, an importance equal to that of the Persian Gulf today," writes a big German daily.1 Likewise in 1992 the US Senator Dole said, "The Gulf War was a symbol of the American preoccupation for the security of oil and gas reserves. The frontiers of that preoccupation are advancing to the north and include the Caucasus, Siberia, and Kazakhstan."2. The threat is clear. Add to this the most important gold mine in the world (in Uzbekistan), the largest deposit of silver (in Tajikistan), note the rumors of uranium, and you understand why Le Monde Diplomatique wrote in 1995: "To capture the contracts, no holds are barred."3 No holds, including war-particularly around the pipelines that transport oil (and soon, gas, of which the importance will grow). Ferocious wars explode around the routes, real or projected, of pipelines: Chechnia, Nagorny-Karabakh, Georgia, Kurdistan. Yes, all means are good to block the people of the region (including Russia) from control of their own riches. Why does Washington support the Taliban criminals in Afghanistan? To control the southern access to the oil of Central Asia.4 But the battle to control this wealth rages already between the Western "allies" themselves: "Baku is an oil center of great importance in the eyes of Germany. On the level of raw materials, we must be on the attack." Signed: F.W. Christians, Chairman of the Deutsche Bank.5 For this was always the Achilles heel of German imperialism: its lack of raw materials. Hence its constant and very strong tendency to expansionism. But the United States doesn't want to hear that. It wants to keep worldwide control of oil. Not for fear of need--it has enough on its own soil-but because, in the event of a new world conflict between great powers, it is essential to be able to deny energy to the adversary. Who wants to rule the world, must control the oil. What is the role of the Balkans in all of this? The oil transport routes must pass by there. From the Caucasus it goes to the Black Sea. Then there are two possibilities. First, the Danube. This very long river (2800 km, about 1700 mi.), of great flow, allows the connection of the Black Sea to Northwest Europe. Oil reaches Hamburg and Amsterdam by passage through the Rhine and the Main. Belgrade alone occupies a strategic position on the Danube. This shows why Germany wants to absolutely break Yugoslavia.6 A second path is possible: a new pipeline project would cross Bulgaria, Macedonia, Albany, and . . . Kosovo. This enormous project of several billion dollars is supported by the United States. One condition is necessary to realize it: to subdue the local populations. This shows why Washington wants absolutely to impose its military bases in the Balkans. Certainly, to justify the installation of military bases, there is a "need" for a local conflict. We see why several Western powers armed the Croatian nationalists of Tudjman in '91, Muslims in Bosnia in 1993, and Kosovars of the KLA in '98. Those who call themselves firemen need incendiaries. Objective No. 2: Recolonize East Europe In 1989 the West promised East Europe prosperity. Six years later Unicef found: "75 million newly poor in the East. The hardest hit: Bulgaria (half the population is poor), Roumania, Moldova, Lithuania, Azerbaijan, Lettony, Estonia. In these countries are found between 27% and 35% of poor people in 1994, as against 1.55 in 1989."7 Chance? Bad luck? Transition a little too late? Not at all. The West had no intention at all of keeping its promises, as Noam Chomsky explains: "I think the prospects are
[CTRL] KLA Funding Tied to Heroin Profits
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:24:01 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[CIA-DRUGS] KLA Funding Tied to Heroin Profits From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Der Fuhrer Invades Yugoslavia KLA Funding Tied to Heroin Profits Heroin will take care of that school violence. Yeah. The Kosovo Liberation Army, which the Clinton administration has embraced and some members of Congress want to arm as part of the NATO bombing campaign, is a terrorist organization that has financed much of its war effort with profits from the sale of heroin. Recently obtained intelligence documents show that drug agents in five countries, including the United States, believe the KLA has aligned itself with an extensive organized crime network centered in Albania that smuggles heroin and some cocaine to buyers throughout Western Europe and, to a lesser extent, the United States. The documents tie members of the Albanian Mafia to a drug smuggling cartel based in Kosovo's provincial capital, Pristina. The cartel is manned by ethic Albanians who are members of the Kosovo National Front, whose armed wing is the KLA. The documents show it is one of the most powerful heroin smuggling organizations in the world, with much of its profits being diverted to the KLA to buy weapons. The clandestine movement of drugs over a collection of land and sea routes from Turkey through Bulgaria, Greece and Yugoslavia to Western Europe and elsewhere is so frequent and massive that intelligence officials have dubbed the circuit the "Balkan Route." Mr. Clinton has committed air power and is considering the use of ground troops to support the Kosovo rebels against Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic. Last week, Sen. Mitch McConnell, Kentucky Republican, and Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, Connecticut Democrat, called on the United States to arm the KLA so ethnic Albanians in Kosovo could defend themselves against the Serbs. Mr. McConnell and Mr. Lieberman introduced a bill that would provide $25 million to equip 10,000 men or 10 battalions with small arms and anti-tank weapons for up to 18 months. In 1998, the U.S. State Department listed the KLA -- formally known as the Ushtria Clirimtare e Kosoves, or UCK -- as an international terrorist organization, saying it had bankrolled its operations with proceeds from the international heroin trade and from loans from known terrorists like Osama bin Laden. "They were terrorists in 1998 and now, because of politics, they're freedom fighters," said one top drug official who asked not to be identified. The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, in a recent report, said the heroin is smuggled along the Balkan Route in cars, trucks and boats initially to Austria, Germany and Italy, where it is routed to eager buyers in France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Switzerland and Great Britain. Some of the white powder, the DEA report said, finds its way to the United States. The DEA report, prepared for the National Narcotics Intelligence Consumer's Committee (NNICC), said a majority of the heroin seized in Europe is transported over the Balkan Route. It said drug smuggling organizations composed of Kosovo's ethnic Albanians were considered "second only to Turkish gangs as the predominant heroin smugglers along the Balkan Route." The NNICC is a coalition of federal agencies involved in the war on drugs. "Kosovo traffickers were noted for their use of violence and for their involvement in international weapons trafficking," the DEA report said. A separate DEA document, written last month by U.S. drug agents in Austria, said that while the war in the former Yugoslavia had reduced the drug flow to Western Europe along the Balkan Route, new land routes have opened across Romania, Hungary and the Czech Republic. The report said, however, the diversion appeared to be only temporary. The DEA estimated that between four and six metric tons of heroin leaves each month from Turkey bound for Western Europe, the bulk of it traveling over the Balkan Route. A second high-ranking U.S. drug official, who also requested anonymity, said government and police corruption in Kosovo, along with widespread poverty throughout the region, had contributed to an increase in heroin trafficking by the KLA and other ethnic Albanians. The official said drug smuggling is "out of control" and little is being done by neighboring states to get a handle on it. "This is the definition of the wild, wild West," said the official. "The bombing has slowed it down, but has not brought it to a halt. And, eventually, it will pick up where it left off." The heroin trade along the Balkan Route has been of concern to several countries: * The Greek
[CTRL] The FBI and International Surveillance: ILETS the ENFOPOL 98 Affair
-Caveat Lector- SPECIAL INVESTIGATION: ILETS AND THE ENFOPOL 98 AFFAIR http://www.heise.de/tp/english/special/enfo/6398/1.html Duncan Campbell 29.04.99 America's guiding hand revealed - the secret international organisation behind Europe's controversial plans for Internet surveillance Europe's 21st century tapping plans were born in an unlikely location. Fifty kilometres south of Washington DC, on the swampy western boundaries of the Potomac river is Quantico, Virginia. Here, on a large military reservation, is the FBI's training academy and research and development centre. Members of the public have no access to the high security site. Between 1990 and 1992, the FBI had tried repeatedly to get the US Congress to pass new laws for telephone tapping. The agency was worried that new digital telephone systems did not allow them easy access to track and intercept their targets. Their goal was to turn every type of modern communications systems into a national and, ultimately, global surveillance network which would give them "real time, full time" access to those whom they wanted to watch. The FBI experts ignored the costs imposed by their demands. They wanted manufacturers and network operators to provide systems at their own expense. Nor were they interested in the checks and balances of laws intended to control monitoring and protect privacy. Lawyers were not invited. Civil society would have to pay its own costs. Seen in retrospect, the title "seminar" is a black joke. Faced with the roadblocks in Congress, early in 1993 the FBI tried a new approach. They invited US allies to come to Quantico. Law enforcement and security agency representatives met there, calling themselves the "International Law Enforcement Telecommunications Seminar". Seen in retrospect, the title "seminar" is a black joke. Acting in secret and without parliamentary knowledge or government supervision, the FBI through ILETS has since 1993 steered government and communications industry policy across the world. In the shadows behind the FBI stood the NSA (National Security Agency), whose global surveillance operations could only benefit if, around the world, users were systematically to be denied telecommunications privacy in the information age. The countries who came to Quantico in 1993 were traditional US intelligence allies like Canada, the UK and Australia. There was also a core Euro group interested in developing extended surveillance systems - Germany, France, the Netherlands, Sweden (and the UK). Other representatives came from Norway, Denmark, Spain and even Hong Kong. The FBI tabled a document called "Law Enforcement Requirements for the Surveillance of Electronic Communications", written in July 1992. In June 1993, EU ministers meeting in Copenhagen agreed to poll member states on the issues raised by the FBI and by ILETS. After discussions in Europe later in 1993, ILETS met in Bonn early in 1994. By now Austria, Belgium, Finland, Portugal and Spain had joined the 19 member group. "International User Requirements" At their Bonn meeting, ILETS agreed joint policy in a document called "International Requirements for Interception". This said that "law enforcement representatives and government telecommunications experts from a number of countries that attended an international workshop on interception and advanced telecommunications technologies identified the need for this document". It was their "common requirements". Attached to the two page ILETS policy paper was a detailed, four page set of monitoring requirements and a glossary. This list of "International User Requirements" was identified as "IUR 1.0" or "IUR95". The ILETS meeting in Bonn also instigated two new policies. ILETS wanted international standards bodies such as the ITU (International Telecommunications Union) and ISO (International Standards Organisation) to build in tapping requirements to new system specifications. ILETS also wanted governments to agree on monitoring across international boundaries, so that one agency could intercept communications in another country. In March 1994, the Dutch government proposed that Europe adopt IUR 1.0. But ministers were not told that the document had been written by ILETS. Instead, it was identified as an ENFOPOL document, eventually being called ENFOPOL 90. (ENFOPOL is a standard European Commission classification for documents concerned with Law Enforcement/Police matters.) European Ministers never discussed ENFOPOL 90. It was agreed by a "written procedure", by exchange of telexes. It remained completely secret for nearly two years, and was not published in the Official Journal of European policy until November 1996. Meanwhile, European telecommunications operators were told to fall in line with its requirements. According to the British Home Office (Interior Ministry), for example, the resolution is "used as a basis for discussion with telecommunications operators in accordance with [UK monitoring
Re: [CTRL] S99-63, Day 41, Update 1 (May 3; 3:00PM EDT) - A Special TiMGW Bulletin on NATO's War on Serbia
-Caveat Lector- Bob Djurdjevic wrote: FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA The Special Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins on NATO's war on Serbia, such as the one enclosed below, can also be accessed at our Web site: www.truthinmedia.org which is being updated throughout the day. Issue S99-63, Day 41, Update 1 --- May 3, 1999; 3:00PM EDT HEADLINES Belgrade 1. NATO Knocks Out Electricity in Serbia Pec2. NATO Hits Another Bus Near Pec, 30 Civilians Perish; Woman Killed in Srem. Mitrovica While Hanging Laundry New York 3. Another "Albright Story:" Gen. Wesley Clark, Grandson of Russian Jew, Mass Murderer with Personal Vendetta Minnesota4. The Real Agenda of a Foreign Cabal Jerusalem 5. Jackson's CFR Mission (By Barry Chamish) New York6. Journalist: Standing in Solidarity with Serbs -- From Joshua2, I always knew you were a religious bigot Bob. I'm glad you are finally showing it to the world. 3. Another "Albright Story:" Gen. Wesley Clark, Grandson of Russian Jew, Murderer with Personal Vendetta NEW YORK, May 3 - A story in today's New York Times revealed that Gen. Wesley Clark is a mass murderer with a personal vendetta against the Serbian Orthodox Christians, co-religionists of the Russians, who had supposedly persecuted Clark's grandfather, a Russian Jew. With one big difference, however. The Serbs, more than 700,000 of whom were also victims of fascism during WW II, have saved many Jews from Croatian and Nazi pogroms, risking their own lives in the process. While some of this is true, the best that can be said for the Serbs who did not become fascists is that they did not treat the Jews like the Catholic Croats and Muslims did under the Germans in WWII. Some Albanians also saved their Jews. I personally have been a supporter of the Serbs in this NATO aggression and will continue to be one in spite of Serbs like you. Of course, the New York Times put a different spin on the general's thirsting for Christian blood. "Some say General Clark's roots give him empathy for Kosovo's victims," read the article's sub-title. In a way, what the Times revealed today is another "Albright Story" (see "Da Bull," a TiM column about Albright's "discovery" of her Jewishness, available at our Web site - http://www.truthinmedia.org/Columns/DaBull.html). Just like the secretary of state, Clark supposedly didn't learn of his Jewish heritage until later in life. And just like Albright, he has changed his religious adherence the way other people change their mailing addresses. During his service in Vietnam, he converted to Roman Catholicism, abandoning the Southern Baptist faith of his mother. I don't know Bob. It sure sounds like this guy is a Christian to me. Which synagogue does he go to to worship Jesus. I'm not really aware of any Catholic synagogues are you? Here are some excerpts from the Times story, titled, "His Family's Refugee Past Is Said to Inspire NATO's Commander:" "The American general who is leading NATO's military operation... discovered as an adult that he is the grandson of a Russian Jew who fled his country to escape the pogroms there a century ago. Gen. Wesley Kanne Clark was raised as a Protestant in Little Rock, Ark., Being raised a Protestant in Little Rock IS a definite sign that this guy is Jewish. where he was brought up by his mother and stepfather, Victor Clark. He was ignorant of his ancestry, which disappeared from his life with the death of his father, Benjamin Jacob Kanne, when Wesley was five years old. He learned of his ethnic background when he was in his 20's and embraced the discovery, according to several family members. This actually makes him quite different from Maddy Albright who ALWAYS rejected being a Jew, and converted to Christianity quite early in life and has been climbing the Christian social ladder towards the Episcopal pinnacle where she currently resides. She spent her childhood and early adulthood as a Catholic, and became Episcopalian when her career and ambitions demanded it. Now let's see, if I remember my Hebrew lessons correctly there are no Jewish sects that call themselves Episcopalians. General Clark has not discussed his heritage with many people, sharing his belated discovery of his biological father's family and background with only a few close friends and his immediate family. He declined to be interviewed for this article. Since President Slobodan Milosevic of Yugoslavia began the forced exodus of Albanians from Kosovo, many have drawn parallels with the expulsion of Jews from Russia and the Nazi mass murder of Jews during the Holocaust in Europe. But in interviews, some of his relatives and friends say that General Clark was inspired by the story of his grandfather's persecution and escape from his
[CTRL] Loose Threads
-Caveat Lector- From Int'l Herald Tribune Paris, Tuesday, May 4, 1999 Preparing to Vote, Scots Count Costs of Separatism By Tom Buerkle International Herald Tribune GALASHIELS, Scotland - As in many towns in the Borders region of southern Scotland, the prosperity of modern Britain seems to have passed by Galashiels. The traditional mainstays of agriculture and textiles have been in decline for decades, while the recent failure of the computer circuit-board maker Viasystems has cost nearly 1,000 jobs and underscored the difficulty of attracting new sources of wealth to the area. But despite the best efforts of Scottish Nationalists to exploit the economic distress before elections for a regional Parliament on Thursday, there are few signs that people here are ready to bet that their future lies with an independent Scotland. ''I don't want independence,'' said Jean Lee, a saleswoman at the local Scottish Power appliance shop, who added that she thought one consequence of independence would be higher taxes. ''I think Scotland's a poor enough country without paying higher taxes,'' she said. That sort of hard-headed calculation appears to be taking place in the minds of many Scots, and it is welcome news to the Labour Party of Prime Minister Tony Blair. After agreeing two years ago to give Scotland its first Parliament in nearly 300 years, Labour was initially dismayed to see its support slump to the benefit of a surging Scottish National Party, which regards devolution as just the first step toward full independence. But in recent months Labour has restored its standing as Scotland's dominant party, in part because of a campaign warning that independence could cost billions of pounds, as well as pledges of higher spending for schools and hospitals. Most recent polls have indicated Labour would win the largest bloc in the 129-seat Parliament and form a government, probably in coalition with the Liberal Democrats. ''I believe people don't want to plunge into another morass of constitutional argument,'' said Donald Dewar, who is leading Labour's campaign and is very likely to become first minister of Scotland. ''The overwhelming economic consensus is that there is pain in separatism.'' Victory in Scotland and in Wales, where Labour also leads in the race to elect a new Assembly on Thursday, is critical to Mr. Blair's ambitious program of constitutional reform in Britain. Mr. Blair contends that devolution will produce more responsive and democratic government without breaking the ties that bind the regions together in the United Kingdom. Alex Salmond, the fiery leader of the Scottish Nationalists, has railed against Labour's campaign, but many in his own party privately blame him for several tactical blunders. The party dulled its appeal at first by playing down its independence demands, calling a referendum on the issue its 10th priority behind such prosaic matters as abolishing tolls on the bridge to the western island of Skye. Then, Mr. Salmond left the party vulnerable to charges that it stood for higher taxes by pledging to forgo a planned 1 percent cut in income tax rates to bolster spending on health and education. Perhaps most important, Mr. Salmond was the only political leader in the country to criticize Britain's role in the bombing of Kosovo, calling it ''an impardonable folly'' that worsened the plight of ethnic Albanians. The Nationalists' stumble highlighted the difficulty of transforming its emotional appeal for independence into a coherent program for government that could withstand the scrutiny of a tough election campaign. ''They were never put under the spotlight until now,'' said David Steel, the Liberal Democrat candidate who is widely expected to become speaker of the new Parliament. ''Scottish nationalism, Scottish identity is an emotional issue,'' said Ron Hawkes, an unemployed electrical engineer who drives a taxi in Galashiels to make ends meet. ''But no one's really convinced that the SNP knows what they're doing with their figures. ''No one's going to vote for economic suicide.'' Undaunted by the criticism, Mr. Salmond has sought to refocus his campaign on independence in the past week. The actor Sean Connery, who remains widely popular here despite being a Bahamas-based tax exile, fired up a gathering of party faithful in Edinburgh last week by insisting that ''Scotland should be nothing less than equal with all the other nations of the world.'' The Nationalists also released a long-awaited economic program for independence, claiming that although Scotland would have a modest government deficit, in contrast to Britain's surplus, it would meet the economic criteria for joining the single European currency. ''Across the U.K., there seems to be an acceptance that independence is coming,'' Mr. Salmond
[CTRL] Dispatches From the War Zone
-Caveat Lector- _ dispatch Dispatches From the War Zone, Message 32 By Masha Gessen To read these dispatches from the beginning, go to http://www.slate.com/dispatches/99-03-31/dispatches.asp?iMsg=1 Message #32: April 29, 1999 From: Masha Gessen To: Slate - dispatch If you are ever in Tetovo, the largest town in western Macedonia, and you want to find Edita Tahiri, academic and part of the leadership of the Democratic League of Kosovo (LDK), go to Café Bolero, one block back from Marshal Tito Street. If, on the other hand, you are looking for the younger and hipper crowd from Pristina, specifically the drama and theater types, the place to go is smallest cafe on the third floor in the new shopping center. Then again, if you are looking for the journalists, the ones from the Kosovo Albanian-language daily Koha Ditore, then go to Cafe Arbi on Marshal Tito. Sure, Koha has an office, too, but what would be the point of following complicated directions if everyone who is anyone is holding court in the cafes? If there ever was a cafe society, the Kosovo intelligentsia in exile, currently resident in Tetovo, is it. As far from Skopje's lackluster tidiness as you can get, Tetovo reminds me of Pristina. Miserable in the drizzle of winter, stifling in the dust of summer, Pristina was never a particularly attractive or pleasant town, but back when life was allowed to go on there, it overflowed. The cafes blasted and burst onto sidewalks, crowds pushed cars off the roads, and the number of useless, kitschy, and colorful objects for sale overwhelmed. So when I saw decorative mobile-phone antennas for sale in Tetovo, I had a sense of recognition. And, with Tetovo's normal population of about 70,000 nearly doubled by the influx of refugees, the crowds were certainly there. The waiter at Cafe Bolero told me that Edita Tahiri had, unfortunately, gone to Skopje. She would be back tomorrow morning, and I could leave a message if I wished. Her cell phone, having as it does a Kosovo number, does not work. "Is anyone else from the LDK around?" I asked. "Well, Shkelzen is out of town," he said, "and he is not LDK anyway." "That's right," I responded, eager to show off my expertise. "He is Cafe Arbi, isn't he?" The waiter nodded and watched--ruefully, I thought--as I walked away toward Cafe Arbi. "Someone here to see you," the waiter said, leading me to Baton Haxhiu's table. Baton already had company, however, so I demurely scheduled myself for the next time slot, in half an hour's time. "So how does it feel to be back from the dead?" I asked in a couple of hours, when my interview with Baton began. The day after the NATO bombings began, the following news circled the world of those who were concerned with specific lives inside Kosovo: the offices of Koha Ditore had been attacked, a night guard killed, and Baton Haxhiu, the editor in chief, was missing, presumed dead. I heard the news in Moscow, then exchanged it with a colleague in Belgrade, each of us growing somber at the other's knowledge, which seemed as bad as confirmation. As Baton grew more surely dead with every passing day, strangely, no one seemed too concerned about the fate of Vetan Surroy, the founder and publisher of Koha Ditore, who was rumored to be abroad--some said in Turkey, others, in the United States. It wasn't until days later that we began to realize that Vetan, being Vetan, would surely make public statements if he were, in fact, abroad. The story of Koha Ditore, as told by the staff that has made it to Tetovo, goes like this. On the first night of the NATO bombings, its offices were, indeed, attacked. The night watchman was killed. Everything, including the computer equipment and all the archives, was destroyed or looted. The paper's printing plant, located a couple of kilometers outside of town, was also burned down. When Baton Haxhiu came to the office in the morning, he was stopped by the police. He called his editor, 25-year-old Ardian Arifaj, and told him not to come to work or leave the house at all that day. Then he went into hiding. Ardian, a short, prematurely bald man, is someone I know, the boyfriend of an old and dear friend, Vlera, who translated for me the very first time I came to Pristina. The first news I had of Vlera and her family was disturbing: They had not left Pristina before the bombing started. The second thing I heard, already in Belgrade, was that the family was safely in Macedonia. Still, when I saw Vlera walk by the cafe where I was sitting this afternoon, at first I did not believe my eyes, and then--for the first time, I realized--I actually believed she was alive. She is working at Koha now, with Ardi. But back to Baton. "I really felt like a dead man for 11 days," he says. He hid in basements, changing his location every couple of days, only occasionally sneaking a visit with his family. "I had a radio with me," he says, meaning short wave. "Radio
[CTRL] Camping
-Caveat Lector- From Int'l Herald Tribune ""The overcrowding at the camps is sowing tensions that have already provoked scuffles in food lines and at tables where refugees can register for third-country transfers. UN relief officials have been trying for weeks to open new camps, but Macedonian officials have moved slowly, and those now in the works are not large enough to accommodate the overflow. Worried officials at the World Health Organization anticipate outbreaks of hepatitis and tuberculosis and have stepped up testing."" Paris, Tuesday, May 4, 1999 Life in Refugee Camp: Stench, Mud and Despair By R. Jeffrey Smith and Anne Swardson Washington Post Service BRAZDE, Macedonia - Five weeks after thousands of Kosovo Albanians began arriving here in a quest for safety and shelter, daily life in Macedonia's largest refugee camp has settled into a numbing routine of boredom and despair. A visitor approaching the unsmiling Macedonian guards at the front gate is met first by the sharp odors emitted by hundreds of overflowing latrines and as many as 28,000 refugees who have not bathed in a month. Inside the overcrowded camp, built in a few hours on farmland as a temporary holding site for thousands of Kosovo Albanians, all the defects of an unplanned city are instantly on display: Lice are commonplace, rodents make nightly visits to the garbage areas and everything that might make living comfortable seems to be missing or in extremely short supply. Thousands of tents, aligned in hundreds of rows, stretch as far as the eye can see down the mud of flat landscape, all fenced in by 2.1-meter-high (seven-foot-high) chicken wire. Waiting in line often occupies much of the refugees' day. People begin lining up at 4 A.M. for the daily ration of food, which is distributed at 8 A.M. It can take hours of waiting to make an outside call on one of the six cellular phones available. Other lines form at the medical tents and at the tables where people register to be transported to refugee camps that are being established in other countries. Small children in ragged clothes line up to try to kick a soccer ball through a cardboard goal. A handful of shops sell plastic sandals, scallions and cans of Coca-Cola - all at prices that few refugees can afford. Most refugees are penniless, their money taken from them by Yugoslav troops, Serbian police officers or paramilitary units as they fled their homes and headed for Kosovo's southern border. Mathematicians, doctors, engineers, shopkeepers, salesmen, lawyers, students and housewives wake up each day to an existence that provides no opportunity for expression, creativity or individuality. Every day has the same low point - making do with a ration of sardines or canned tuna - and the same high point, the 6 P.M. posting of a list of those who will be leaving for a third country. ''It is an art to stop thinking here and a problem to think too much,'' said Mufail Limani, 40, a writer. ''There is no object for thinking, nothing concrete. Just some illusions, some hope, some fictional things.'' After five weeks in a virtual prison with no knowledge of how long their sentences will last, everyone at the camp ''has lost perspective,'' said Selman Llap, 50, a coffee salesman from the Kosovo capital, Pristina, who spends his afternoons seated with 60 other men on a thin edge of concrete that juts out from the sole permanent structure here, a blue metal shed surrounded by mud. ''They don't know about their future. Just pay attention to their faces. No one is laughing.'' The camp was erected by NATO troops and then turned over to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees and the Catholic Relief Services. Its population is more than five times what aid workers say is the optimal size for efficient, humane housing of refugees; its density is three times what international standards specify. Instead of a temporary transit camp, it has become the only home that its residents are likely to know during the summer - and perhaps the fall and winter. Only a small fraction are being airlifted elsewhere, with their places in tents refilled each day - and then some - by thousands of new arrivals. More than 25,000 refugees have been flown out of the seven refugee camps in Macedonia during the last two weeks, but Kosovo Albanians keep arriving at a greater rate. On Sunday, more than 5,000 crossed the border, swelling the total in Macedonia to 185,000, according to the UN refugee agency. The overcrowding at the camps is sowing tensions that have already provoked scuffles in food lines and at tables where refugees can register for third-country transfers. UN relief officials have been trying for weeks to open new camps, but Macedonian officials have moved slowly, and those now in the works are not large enough to
Re: [CTRL] Electromagnetic Bomb Used in Belgrade?
-Caveat Lector- This was almost certainly an electromagnetic bomb. ABC said it was graphite shrapnel. Any electroconductive shrapnel could have done the trick. Taking down an electric grid is child's play. A single .22 short, for example, striking the right ceramic insulator can blackout everything "downstream." It ain't rocket science. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A deadly Malaysian virus has U.S. scientists scrambling for answers
-Caveat Lector- A deadly Malaysian virus has U.S. scientists scrambling for answers Copyright © 1999 Nando Media Copyright © 1999 Associated Press By PATRICIA J. MAYS ATLANTA (May 3, 1999 2:09 p.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) - In a quarantined laboratory, U.S. scientists outfitted in plastic biohazard spacesuits and breathing through air tubes are investigating a deadly virus that is wreaking havoc on the other side of the world. The mysterious microscopic enemy has killed more than 100 people in Malaysia in seven months, and scientists are baffled about its origin and mode of transmission. "Every couple of years something like this comes along," says Dr. C.J. Peters, head of the special pathogens branch at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. "We don't know how this stuff spreads, how far it's going to go. We really don't know what's at the end of the tunnel." The rare form of viral encephalitis, which spread from pigs to humans, first surfaced last year near the northern city of Ipoh. It has since sickened more than 250 Malaysians, mostly pig farmers. Many of their herds also fell ill, and some pigs died. A similar illness afflicted 11 slaughterhouse workers in Singapore, one fatally, who butchered pigs imported from Malaysia. Soldiers have killed almost 1 million pigs and some stray dogs to try to curb the virus. On Monday, pet owners in Malaysia's high-risk areas were told to get their animals checked immediately after new tests confirmed house pets could transmit the disease to humans. Medical authorities named the new virus Nipah, after the village where it was first isolated. As remote as the Nipah virus may seem, controlling and understanding it are a concern of epidemiologists around the globe because of fear it could spread quickly. "In today's world, it's not unrealistic to think of the possibility that someone could get on a plane and land in San Francisco with it," says Dr. Duane Gubler, director of the CDC's Division of Vector-Borne Infectious Diseases at Fort Collins, Colo. For months, Malaysian health officials were certain the killer was Japanese encephalitis, a mosquito-borne virus common to the area. The two pathogens cause similar symptoms - high fever, aches, eventual coma and, often, death. But most people in the region had been vaccinated for JE as children. Additionally, it doesn't usually kill adult pigs. The government declared a state of emergency in three Malaysian states and launched fogging and vaccination campaigns, to no avail. The Nipah virus raged on. And despite no proof that Nipah can infect people who eat or handle pork, the epidemic has wreaked havoc on Malaysia's nearly $400 million pork industry. On March 7, baffled Malaysian researchers sought help from their counterparts at Gubler's CDC office in Fort Collins. "It was quite fortuitous that when I sent him an offer to help, he was in the process of sending a note to the CDC asking for help," Gubler says. The following Saturday morning, a Malaysian researcher arrived in Fort Collins with slides of cells infected with the mysterious virus. The researchers worked through the weekend, screening the sample against dozens of known viruses. All were negative. When they tried to isolate Nipah, it formed giant cells with multiple nuclei - epidemiological patterns not at all like JE. By Sunday, a red flag had gone up: The Nipah virus fit in none of the three virus families studied at Fort Collins and was actually a previously unknown paramyxovirus. This family includes measles and mumps, but one of the last new paramyxoviruses discovered was the especially virulent Hendra virus. "That was when we packed it up and sent it to Atlanta," Gubler says. The samples were taken to the CDC's Level 4 biocontainment lab, which houses deadly microbes that have no vaccine or cure, such as the Ebola virus that killed 245 Zaireans in 1995. The CDC's medical detectives quickly identified the culprit as related to but far deadlier than the very rare Hendra virus. Hendra was first detected in 1994 in Australia, where it killed 15 racehorses and two trainers. But they know little else. "That indicated right away that this was something big. We knew it was a new virus and we knew it was related to a virus that kills people," Peters says. "We're not talking about an outbreak of colds that's going to run through and everybody's going to get over it." In late March, a team of eight CDC epidemiologists and two Australian researchers packed questionnaires, protective gear, needles and vials and headed for Malaysia. Wearing gloves, rubber coveralls, boots and battery-operated respirators, the disease detectives began combing through animal feed and trapping rodents. They have spent weeks tramping through pig pens and farming villages in the worst-hit areas. They are interviewing victims and their families and friends: What did they eat? What did they drink? Where did they go? What did they do? It's all to form
[CTRL] Youth Suicides Double in Japan
-Caveat Lector- Kid Suicides Nearly Double in Japan TOKYO (AP) -- The number of Tokyo children committing suicide nearly doubled in 1998, Japan's largest newspaper said today. In all, 74 people aged 18 and under killed themselves in Tokyo in 1998, compared to 40 children the previous year, the Yomiuri newspaper said. Last year's suicides included 24 high school students, 10 junior high students and 3 elementary school children. The remaining 37 were in their late teens and not enrolled in school, the newspaper said. Forty-five of those who killed themselves were male, while 29 were female, it said. The surge in suicides may reflect ``a diminishing sense that one's life is precious,'' the daily quoted officials from the Tokyo Metropolitan Police Department as saying. The newspaper said one male student, who committed suicide after worrying about his shoplifting, left a note saying: ``I have become human trash.'' Officials were unavailable for comment today, a national holiday in Japan. In Japan, suicide is seen as an honorable way to escape life's difficulties and as a way to take responsibility on the behalf of others. Earlier this month, the Health and Welfare Ministry said overall suicides in Japan rose to 27,102 in the last ten months of 1998, up 38 percent from the same period last year. Japan has one of the world's highest suicide rates, with 17.2 per 100,000 people taking their lives each year. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] France: Anti-Terrorist Terror
-Caveat Lector- "Members of a French ANTI-terrorism squad and a local chief of police have been arrested on charges with carrying out a terrorist attack on their 'enemy' ..." Fighting fire with fire ... French Official Detained in Corsica AJACCIO, Corsica (AP) -- France's top official in Corsica, Bernard Bonnet, was taken into custody today as part of the investigation into the firebombing of a Corsican restaurant, judicial officials said. Earlier, police raided Bonnet's offices on this Mediterranean Island. Officials would not say why Bonnet was taken into custody. In Paris, Prime Minister Lionel Jospin asked President Jacques Chirac to dismiss Bonnet. Bonnet's cabinet chief, Gerard Pardini, also was placed in custody. The April 20 attack destroyed ``Chez Francis'' on a beach near Ajaccio, Corsica's capital. The restaurant is said to have been a favorite hangout for nationalists. There were no casualties. Three members of a French anti-terrorism squad have been placed under investigation, along with Col. Henri Mazeres, head of police in Corsica, on charges of carrying out the attack. A lawyer for one of the three officers said Monday his client was ordered to carry out the attack. ``He deliberately started the fire ... but it wasn't a spontaneous act,'' Emmanuel Saint-Lanne, lawyer for Capt. Norbert Ambrosse, told reporters after his client was questioned for five hours by an investigating judge. Referring to all three officers, Saint-Lanne said they ``would have been threatened if they hadn't carried out the mission.'' ``The three men have been exploited by their immediate superior,'' he said, referring to Mazeres. Corsican officials are demanding urgent answers from Paris, and the leftist government of Lionel Jospin has come under mounting pressure to explain the role of the officers in the firebombing. The anti-terrorism squad was created last year in the wake of the assassination of Claude Erignac, France's prefect on the island. Bonnet was then appointed as his successor with orders to clamp down on corruption. Nationalists in Corsica have waged a 23-year campaign of bombings against public buildings and French businesses, demanding greater autonomy or even independence. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Chicago Mayor, City Treasurer Arrested
-Caveat Lector- Mayor Arrested in Corruption Case CHICAGO (AP) -- A mayor and two former police officers were among those arrested today in a corruption case alleging they charged a ``street tax'' to bars, restaurants and adult bookstores. Federal officials called it the most significant case in years involving Chicago-area organized crime. ``It targets the corruption of police and public officials who the mob allegedly bribed,'' U.S. Attorney Scott Lassar said. Indicted were Anthony T. Centracchio, an alleged mob boss; Stone Park Mayor Robert D. Natale; former Stone Park police Lt. Thomas R. Tucker and former Franklin Park officer Robert Urbinati. The men have pleaded not guilty. A Chicago crime commission has said Centracchio is the head of the mob on the city's West Side and in DuPage County. The Thursday federal indictment accuses the four of a conspiracy to put illegal gambling devices such as video poker in numerous west suburban bars, restaurants and fraternal clubs. The indictment also says the participants imposed a ``street tax'' -- or charge for protection on establishments as far north as Wisconsin. Chicago Treasurer Found Guilty By MIKE ROBINSON CHICAGO (AP) -- The city's treasurer was convicted today of shaking down a brokerage firm for campaign donations and forcing her employees to do the same. A federal jury found Miriam Santos guilty of attempted extortion for telling Fuji Securities to donate $10,000, saying on a taped conversation that it was ``time to belly up'' and ``this is no choice.'' However, she was acquitted of four other attempted extortion counts for allegedly trying to shake down other companies. Santos' attorney said she would appeal. Santos, 43, faces a maximum 33 months in prison at sentencing in July. Under Illinois State Law, any elected official found guilty of a felony is removed from office. The position is to be filled by an appointee of the mayor. Federal prosecutors accused Santos, a Democrat, of pressuring seven brokers who oversee the investment of $2.5 billion in city funds to donate thousands of dollars to her failed attorney general campaign last year. The brokers said she threatened to stop doing business with them unless they paid up, and ordered them cut off when none donated. Jurors found her guilty of attempted extortion of only Fuji Securities, which had a tape recording of an angry conversation with Santos. Santos and her attorneys said her words on the tape may have had a rough edge, but were not a threat. Santos was also convicted of illegally directing employees to do campaign work, such as making phone calls to raise money for the campaign. Santos said she told workers it was illegal to do campaign work on city time but that a few overzealous volunteers stepped over the line. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Pope Blesses Mafia Murderer
-Caveat Lector- First, JPII heaps praise on a Nazi collaborator, and now-- Maybe it's just Alzheimer's ... Italy's Andreotti Has Ups and Downs By FRANCES D'EMILIO .c The Associated Press ROME (AP) -- There were tens of thousands of faithful in front of Pope John Paul II and the television cameras were rolling when he singled out for his blessing former Premier Giulio Andreotti. Just two days earlier, prosecutors demanded a conviction and life imprisonment for Andreotti in the murder of a journalist. And in another trial, prosecutors are pressing for his conviction on Mafia-related charges. For many in Italy on Monday, the blessing was the Vatican's latest and perhaps most dramatic show of solidarity toward Andreotti since his legal woes began earlier this decade. ``It has all the flavor of absolution,'' the Rome daily Il Messaggero said of the pope's gesture Sunday's at the beatification of the mystic monk Padre Pio in St. Peter's Square. Andreotti said he was surprised when he was told to approach the pontiff. ``I was summoned by a monsignor,'' Andreotti was quoted as saying in Monday's Corriere della Sera newspaper. Andreotti declined to reveal what the pope said to him. But with his customary irony, he said of the timing: ``It's a coincidence that doesn't displease me.'' Andreotti was among the VIPs the Vatican offered front-row seats. Others were Premier Massimo D'Alema, President Oscar Luigi Scalfaro and Senate leader Nicola Mancino. The Vatican has made no secret of its sympathy for Andreotti, a daily Mass-goer who, in his seven times as premier, enjoyed close relations with the Holy See. In January, for Andreotti's 80th birthday, the pope sent greetings that the politician read during a toast in the Senate. Andreotti also shared the podium at a book presentation with Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, who, as the Vatican's watchdog of Vatican orthodoxy, enjoys the pope's top esteem. And Andreotti has appeared recently on several TV shows, speaking about the need for a diplomatic solution over Kosovo, an approach close to John Paul's heart. The Vatican denies the papal blessing is an attempt to sway opinion in Andreotti's favor. ``The Holy See doesn't interfere'' in judicial matters, said a Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Ciro Benedettini. He described the blessing as a ``sign of solidarity toward a person who is suffering.'' On Friday, prosecutors in Perugia asked a court to convict Andreotti for the 1979 murder of a muckraking journalist and sentence him to life in prison. A month ago, prosecutors in Palermo pressed for his conviction and a long prison term on charges that Andreotti did favors for the Sicilian Mafia in exchange for votes. Verdicts in both trials are months away. Andreotti claims he is a victim of political vendetta and that Mafia turncoats, whose testimony is the backbone of both cases, are taking revenge for his crackdowns on organized crime. In an interview in Monday's Milan daily Il Giornale, he said his enemies fear he will return to politics. Andreotti said he doesn't know precisely who wants him out of action but insisted he has no plans for a comeback. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NATO air strikes could cause a second Chernobyl
-Caveat Lector- Subject: NATO air strikes could cause a second Chernobyl SUNDAY HERALD 27 April 1999 NATO air strikes could cause a second Chernobyl By Felicity Arbuthnot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Publication Date: Apr 25 1999 EUROPE'S most dangerous nuclear power plant could be just 30 minutes from a catastrophic meltdown due to Nato air strikes on Serbia, a British expert has claimed. Oil from bombed refineries has seeped into the River Danube, causing 13 huge slicks which are now threatening Bulgaria's Kozloduy plant's cooling system, prompting environmentalists to warn of a "very real danger" of a second Chernobyl. One British expert said workers at Kozloduy, which has around five million people within its blast danger zone, would have just half an hour to shut down the reactors if cooling water from the river becomes contaminated with the thick oily sludge. But John Large, a London-based nuclear safety consultant who has investigated Kozloduy for the British government, claimed the plant has been staffed by little more than farmers since Russian technicians went home after the break-up of the Soviet Union. Large confirmed the thick oil slicks could jam machines which pump water 6km from the Danube to cool the reactors. He warned sparking could cause fires, but his main fears concern overheating reactors due to a prolonged absence of coolant, which may lead to the explosive release of a radioactive cloud. Large said: "The people at Kozloduy would have perhaps 30 minutes to close down the reactors." He claimed there would be ample opportunity for inexperienced operators to make mistakes. "How shall I put it? This is a high-tech plant which is now run by agrarian labourers. After the break-up of the Soviet Union, the Russian technicians who ran the plant went home, taking the instruction manuals with them." Large said that in the worst case scenario, loss of coolant combined with operator error could result in an accidental release of a cloud of radioactive gas. The reactors were so old, he warned, that their pressure vessels could have become brittle and liable to catastrophic failure. Kozloduy takes water from the Danube at a point just 100km from the Serbian border. One of the 13 slicks approaching it is 24km long. An emergency shutdown on one of the plant's six reactors would plunge much of Bulgaria into darkness. But it is the fear of catastrophe which has caused worldwide alarm. A coalition of Bulgarian environmental groups has warned the country's government that there is "a very real danger" of a disaster similar to that caused by the blast at Chernobyl in April, 1986. Bulgarian authorities are refusing to release details of how the risk is being dealt with. However, environmentalists have warned that the 24km slick, which eyewitnesses claim is a "thick, oily gunge", will pass the cooling pumps in "a matter of days". Campaigner Rasitsa Panayotova from Za Zemiata (Bulgarian for For the Earth), claimed oil contamination could cause reactors at Kozloduy to explode. "Another danger is that oil in the vicinity catches fire, also threatening the complex," she warned. The site also houses a substantial stockpile of nuclear waste. Four of Kozloduy's aging six reactors have no secondary containment to prevent radiation from escaping in the event of an accident. Most western experts regard them as unsafe and the European Union has been trying to persuade the Bulgarians to close them for years. The Bulgarian government has resisted because the reactors supply 35% of the country's electricity. A detailed investigation earlier this month by the official nuclear regulatory agencies from 10 countries, including Britain, concluded Kozloduy could never be made safe. "The existing and planned safety upgrading programmes will not be sufficient to bring these units up to acceptable safety standards," they said. Another study by the US Department of Energy revealed the plant failed on six out of seven accident indicators and concluded that "operation of the Kozloduy nuclear power plant is truly a high-stakes gamble." Last week Bulgarian environmental groups demanded the closure of Kozloduy after their government gave Nato planes permission to make emergency landings 50km away at Gabrovnica. The Bulgarian committee on the uses of atomic energy for peaceful purposes also warned a plane crash at Kozloduy could cause an "uncontrolled disaster". Talent develops in tranquillity, character in the full current of human life. Í DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought.
[CTRL] Fwd(2): (en) IWPR'S BALKAN CRISIS REPORT, NO. 28 3 May 1999
-Caveat Lector- A - I N F O S N E W S S E R V I C E http://www.ainfos.ca/ Originally From: "Tony Borden" [EMAIL PROTECTED] BROKEN BRIDGES, DISTRUPTED LIVES. The bridges of Novi Sad were life itself. Now they're gone, and as Milena Putnik reports, Vojvodina?s capital city has been split in two. VOJVODINA: A SECOND KOSOVO? A NATO land attack via Hungary could be as disastrous for Vojvodina's national minorities as the bombing has been for Kosovo's Albanians. SANDZAK SEVERED. Links between the Sandzak and the rest of Serbia have been severed by NATO bombing, and its Muslims continue to leave. * Copyright (C) 1999 The Institute for War Peace Reporting www.iwpr.net. * BROKEN BRIDGES, DISTRUPTED LIVES The bridges of Novi Sad were life itself. Now they're gone, and the city has been split in two. By Milena Putnik in Novi Sad April 1999 will be remembered in Novi Sad as the month in which this picturesque city on the Danube lost its bridges and was split in two. The bridges meant life to Novi Sad, and now they are gone. In the course of the month NATO war planes destroyed all the bridges across the Danube. The city was famous for these bridges, linking the left and right banks, formerly called Novi Sad and Petrovaradin respectively, and joining the regions of Backa and Srem. The railway bridge was completed in 1961. Before it was officially named, the citizens of Novi Sad used to call it Zezelj's Bridge, after the architect who designed it. Now it has sunk into the river's sandy bed, as if its sturdy arches had never existed. The stump of a damaged column protrudes from the water. When built, it was one of the first bridges in the world to be made out of reinforced concrete. But it could not withstand four NATO attacks. The bridge took a direct hit in the early hours of 25 April. Eyewitnesses said that concrete debris flew over a four-story building. There were no casualties. Windows on near-by buildings and parked cars were, however, damaged, along with the water system. Now parts of Novi Sad and the villages on the left bank of the river in Backa are without water. Villages on the right bank of the river are also without gas, which has been cut for safety reasons. Aleksandar Ivkovac, the city's chief information officer, told IWPR that since the destruction of Zezelj's Bridge Novi Sad has been on the edge of a humanitarian catastrophe. "Drinking water supplies are now intermittent for about 440,000 people. In the villages alternative wells are being used, but the water has to be boiled," he said. "Parts of the right hand bank of the Danube no longer have access to emergency medical aid and pregnant women there cannot get to the city's obstetrics ward. And we are having difficulties helping patients who require regular dialysis." On the bank, in front of the where the Varadinski Bridge stood until April 1, people stand and stare in disbelief. For the citizens of Novi Sad it was usually known as the Old Bridge and used to walk to the fortress. "When I saw what used to be the bridge, I burst into tears," said a lady living in a flat nearby who has temporarily moved with her children to her parents' home. "My entire life flashed before my eyes--from the time my parents took me by the hand as we crossed, warning me to watch how I walked across the planks, through which I could see the water, to the time I told my own children, just like my father once told me, to look at the clock on the castle to overcome giddiness." The clock on the Petrovaradin fortress, built when Novi Sad was part of the Habsburg Empire, has been witness to many wars. Explanations of the military importance of this bridge at NATO headquarters cause bitterness and anger among citizens of Novi Sad. "Was this bridge really a strategic target? It was only important to us, since it is linked to all our memories. It was on this bridge I first kissed," said one lady. Not hiding her age, she explained that in her youth she had worked on its reconstruction after an older bridge had been destroyed by bombing at the end of the Second World War. Several hundred metres upstream columns of another bridge can be seen protruding out of the water. That was destroyed in April 1941 by the army of Royal Yugoslavia as it retreated in the wake of the Nazi invasion. From there it is just possible to make out the outline, behind a bend in the Danube, of the newest of Novi Sad's bridges, the Freedom Bridge, now broken in two places. It used to link Novi Sad and Sremska Kamenica just above the city's beach. It was built on shifting sands and the columns on its right bank had to be constantly monitored. It could not take heavy trucks. For the citizens of Novi Sad, it was the most direct route to the only hospital in town
Re: [CTRL] Electromagnetic Bomb Used in Belgrade?
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Steve Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Pentagon spokesman said today that the weapon used to attack the electric facilities in Belgrade is "highly classified" and capable of disorienting the computer systems and electronic equipment. A CNN reporter said the bomb exploded *above* the electrical facility and then began shorting the facility. This was almost certainly an electromagnetic bomb. NPR reported that the device was also used in the Gulf War: a cruise missile delivering a net of thin carbon strands, which shorted-out the high-voltage transmission facilities without physically damaging infrastructure. No mention was made of EMP or other electromagnetic effects, as implied by your term "electromagnetic bomb". Cheers --Ric DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Dr. Ann Blake Tracy--LUVOX for Programming Violence?
-Caveat Lector- Someone complained discussion of LUVOX is all opinion, no research? Nonsense...see below: -Original Message- From: Ian Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kasten, Kathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, May 03, 1999 10:57 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Ann Blake Tracy At 07:23 PM 5/3/1999 -0700, Kasten, Kathy wrote: ERR: the fuzzy logic article that I cited. The full Melvyl citation arrive, and I re-read it. It was not Dr. Ann Tracy, but Dr. BT Ann. So, I found no article or book by Dr. Ann Tracy, the doctor quoted by Susan W. Wells, from who knows what journal/magazine article, or whatever. I was the one who quoted her. Here's info on her book and its publisher: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/3568/ATracyPhD.htm Here's more on her and her book: http://members.aol.com/atracyphd She's director of this group: http://www.drugawareness.org/ I found her book at amazon.com, they say they've sold 170,946 copies. Search if this doesn't work: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0916095592/qid=925785869/sr=1-6/002-9 787699-8316638 Enjoyed your commentary on the manufacture's review of LUVOX Tablets(R). The original source I cited is at the bottom: Dr. Ann Blake Tracy, author of "Prozac: Panacea or Pandora?," lists "aggressive or violent behavior" as a side effect of antidepressants such as Luvox. Dr Tracy states that long- term users of antidepressants can loose the distinction between reality and dream. She says some patients enter an "anesthetic sleep state" where they do things that later they can't believe or recall they did (see: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/3568). -- Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/ For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: http://a-albionic.com/search.html ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Please Patronize PRJ's Advertisers: http://home.msen.com/~daugh/store.htm Many Pay Even If You Just Look and Don't Buy! Video Finder, Free catalogs, Health Products, Sweepstakes, Etc. *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Littleton Gunman on Luvox - Confirmed
-Caveat Lector- Now we need to find-out who Eric Harris' Psychiatrist was.. Will he turn-out to have connections to the National Security Dictatorship? -- Lloyd -Original Message- From: Ian Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 6:12 AM Subject: -Original Message- From: Ian Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 6:12 AM Subject: Gunman on Luvox - Confirmed * LITTLETON GUNMAN TESTS POSITIVE FOR MANIA-INDUCING DRUG * ABC's Colorado affiliate KCNC NEWS4 reports (5/4/99) [1]: "[T]he coroner has released further toxicology reports on Eric Harris, one of the two dead suspects. Specialized testing shows levels of Luvox in Harris' blood in a therapeutic range." While doctors interviewed by The Washington Post [2] and CNN [3] claim there's no link between Luvox and aggressive behavior, the medical literature gives a different picture. Luvox is the trade name for fluvoxamine, which research shows can induce mania. A study found in the "American Journal of Psychiatry" (9/91, page 1264) concludes: "Our observations confirm the efficacy of fluvoxamine [ Luvox ] in the treatment of depression but suggest that this drug can induce mania in some patients when it is given at normal doses." [4] One symptom of mania can be "aggressive behavior." [5] Luvox is a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI). About such drugs Dr. Jodi Worrel of the Western Missouri Mental Health Center states: "Child and adolescent data suggest worsening of aggression with SSRI treatment."[6] Psychiatric-drug expert Dr. Peter Breggin states [7]: "According to the manufacturer, Solvay, 4% of children and youth taking Luvox developed mania during short-term controlled clinical trials. Mania is a psychosis which can produce bizarre, grandiose, highly elaborated destructive plans..." A study published in the "Journal of Clinical Psychiatry" (July 1995, pages 288-96) states about another SSRI drug similar to Luvox: "Fluoxetine-treated patients reported an increased frequency of...anger or aggression." [8] A study by researchers at the Hadassah-Hebrew University School of Medicine in Jerusalem published in the "Annals of Pharmacotherapy" concluded the following about Luvox: "Our case series suggests that fluvoxamine may have the ability to induce or unmask manic behavior in depressed patients. Clinicians are alerted to monitor for this 'switching' effect..."[9] In that study, patients suffering Luvox-induced mania were not helped by the anti-mania drug lithium, indeed it seemed to make them worse. Only when the use of Luvox stopped did the patient's mania clear. Not only Luvox causes mania. In a letter published in the "American Journal of Psychiatry" (3/90, page 372), researcher Dr. Alan Lipschitz states: "I would like to draw your attention to a psychiatric aphorism that illuminates some mood disorder mechanisms: Every antidepressant that does not cure mania causes mania." [10] So it seems mania is linked to many antidepressants. Eric Harris, who was said to be the leader of the two dead gunman, had been taking a mania-inducing drug and displayed aggressive and unusual behavior indicative of mania prior to his deadly shooting rampage at Columbine High school, when, as tests prove, he was on that mania- inducing drug, Luvox. (relevant http://drugawareness.org) _ [1] KCNC NEWS4: Columbine Shooting (5/4/99, 12:41 AM ET) http://www.kcncnews4.com/prd1/now/now_template_utility. call_proper_frameset?p_story=146544p_who=kcncp_section=200 [2] The Washington Post: Shooter Used Often-Prescribed Drug: http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-04/30/ 016l-043099-idx.html [3] CNN: Columbine shooter was prescribed anti-depressant: http://cnn.com/HEALTH/9904/29/luvox.explainer/index.html [4] American Journal of Psychiatry: Mania and Fluvoxamine. C.Burrai, A.Bocchetta, M.Zompo, Sept.'91, (148)9, p.1263-4. [5] Bipolar Disorder (Manic-Depression) Explained: http://mentalhelp.net/articles/grohol/bipolar.htm [6] The Psyche: Chronic Treatment of Aggressive Behavior. By Jodi Worrel, Pharm.D., May 1998 Volume 3, Issue 5. http://www.med.umkc.edu/thepsyche/pastissu/may98/index.html [7] "Eric Harris was taking Luvox (a Prozac-like drug) at the time of the Littleton murders." By Peter R. Breggin, M.D., April 30, 1999: http://www.breggin.com/luvox.html [8] Journal Of Clinical Psychiatry: Postmarketing surveillance by patient self-monitoring: preliminary data for sertraline versus fluoxetine. Fisher, Kent, Bryant, 7/95, 56(7):288-96. [9] Annals Of Pharmacotherapy: Fluvoxamine-associated manic behavior: a case series. A. Dorevitch, Y.
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990504a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # 'Earliest writing' found. (BBC) The first known examples of writing may have been unearthed at an archaeological dig in Pakistan. So-called 'plant-like' and 'trident-shaped' markings have been found on fragments of pottery dating back 5500 years. They were found at a site called Harappa in the region where the great Harappan or Indus civilisation flourished. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_334000/334517.stm @ Links: The Harappa Project: http://www.harappa.com/ @ Discovering Archaeology: http://www.discoveringarchaeology.com/ @ ArchNet: http://archnet.uconn.edu/ @ Ancient Scripts of the World: http://alumni.eecs.berkeley.edu/~lorentz/Ancient_Scripts/ # Also: Were Egyptians the first scribes? http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_235000/235724.stm # Prehistoric Irish tomb alligned to the Sun and Moon: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_313000/313720.stm : Were ancient humans taught to write by ancient astronauts? Are humans too dumb to invent writing? Are you too dumb to write? Am I? What's the proof? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ *** Turk pres stays pro-secular. ANKARA, Turkey (AP) - Turkey's president stood firm against mixing Islam with politics, reappointing his pro-secular premier amid an uproar created by a legislator who defied convention by wearing an Islamic head scarf to Parliament. For Turkey's establishment, the scarves are a political statement challenging the secular system. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559412037-ec0 # Women Cyclists Banned In Caspian Seaside Resort. TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran has outlawed women cyclists at northern seaside resort as an affront to Islamic morality. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990503/08/odd-women : Does your belief system regulate your dress and exercise? Do you engage in behaviours that affront morality? Is challenging secular establishments fun? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ *** Inderground Christians detained in China. BEIJING (AP) Police broke up a church service at a rural home and detained all 25 worshipers in the latest raid on Protestants worshiping outside state control in China. Police confi- scated all Bibles found at the home in Sui county in central Henan province. Eight days after the 25 Apr raid, 15 worshipers remained in detention. Many rural Christians in China meet in homes due to lacks of clergy and churches. The raid in Sui county was at least the 5th police have conducted in Henan, a center of activity for the underground Protestant church, since October. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559413531-a69 : What religions or states would you like to control? Is your faith under- ground? Are political/religious systems better suppressed, controlled, used? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ *** Church quits Southern Baptist group. GREENVILLE, SC (AP) - A church that helped found the Southern Baptist Convention in 1845 has quit the denomina- tion over its fundamentalist stand on such issues as the role of women. 1st Baptist Church of Greenville voted 500-47 to sever its affiliation with the nation's largest Protestant denomination. "This vote is about integrity," the Rev. Hardy Clemons said in a sermon before the vote. "Our call is to be honest about who we are." 1st Baptist, with about 2,500 members, had already stopped contributing to the convention in 1993. Then, last summer, the con- vention declared that women should "submit graciously" to their husbands. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559411597-5ad : Has SBC evolved beyond integrity? Is religious schism/factionialization inevitable? How many different entries for BAPTIST are in your phone book? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ *** Not just kids buying Star Wars toys. LOS ANGELES (AP) In a galaxy loca-ted somewhere between reason and insanity, 30-year-old construction worker Gil Juarez was spending $100 for a one-way ticket back to childhood. "You can buy whatever you want right now," Juarez observed of the benefits of adulthood, as he shopped for "Star Wars" action figures, models and child-ren's underwear at a Toys R Us near outside downtown Los Angeles. "It used to be you had to ask your parents. Now it's just your wife saying, 'No, no, no.' And since I have the money, I say, 'Yeah, yeah, yeah.'" "Star Wars" fans, collectors, shop-a-holics and others just feeling frisky from the Force invaded toy stores Monday just after the stroke of midnight. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559412156-e27 : Is THE FORCE all about money, icons, souvenirs? Who does better marketing, George Lucas or the Pope? Do you have both a crucifix and R2D2 on your dash? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SansComment: # Supermarket Links Melon Sales To Breasts.
[CTRL] PG Satan Rumors
-Caveat Lector- Tuesday May 4 8:09 AM ET Amway Spread Satan Rumors, PG Claims In Court By Jeff Franks HOUSTON (Reuters) - Along with soap and vitamins, those friendly Amway salesmen have been pushing something else for years -- false rumors that rival Procter Gamble Co. is in league with the devil -- attorneys charged in opening arguments of a lawsuit Monday. Procter Gamble lawyers said Amway Corp. had tried to take away sales by fomenting the mistaken belief, prevalent in some religious circles, that Procter Gamble's venerable trademark incorporated satanic symbols such as the number ``666'' and devil's horns. ``They (Amway) know full well the malignant, cancerous effect of associating someone with a satanic cult,'' Procter Gamble attorney Mike Gallagher said. ``It incorporates everything that is bad and nothing that's good.'' The lawsuit is the culmination of years of bitterness between Procter Gamble and Amway, which has filed a counter-suit charging that Procter Gamble is conducting a smear campaign. Procter Gamble attorneys said Amway might have encouraged the rumors since they first surfaced in the 1970s. The lawsuit asks for $595 million in lost sales from 1995 to 1997, plus an unspecified amount for damage to the company's reputation. An attorney for direct marketer Amway denied the charges and said Procter Gamble had sued because it was concerned about Amway's strong sales growth in Asia. The trademark, which dates back to the 1850s, shows a bearded ``man in the moon'' looking over 13 stars, one for each of the original 13 American colonies. Procter Gamble says the trademark ``remains an important company identification'' but removed it in 1985 from the company's more than 300 products. These include such well-known brands as Tide laundry detergent, Crest toothpaste, Ivory soap, Pampers disposable diapers and Folgers coffee. In an audio tape played in court Monday, an Amway distributor said in an April 1995 voice mail to other distributors that Procter Gamble's president had admitted on the Phil Donahue television show that a percentage of the company's profits went to the ``Church of Satan.'' But Amway attorney Charles Babcock, who successfully defended talk show hostess Oprah Winfrey against a 1998 lawsuit brought by Texas livestock producers who said she had defamed beef, said Amway did not approve of the distributor's message and had quickly ordered him to send out a retraction. ``We've bent over backwards to help Procter Gamble stop this rumor,'' he said. Babcock said the Satanism rumors emanated not from Amway but from religious groups unhappy about Procter Gamble's sponsorship of controversial television programs. He charged that the company had handled the problem badly from the beginning. He showed a videotape of comedian David Letterman joking about the rumors on his television show to make the point that the firm's botched public relations efforts had spread the Satanism rumors far and wide. ``They're not mad at us. They're mad at themselves, and they're trying to blame us,'' Babcock said. The real reason for the lawsuit, Babcock argued, was Procter Gamble's concern that Amway was growing rapidly in Asia because of its direct-sales strategy. The company sells its 450 products through 3 million independent distributors worldwide, not through stores, and is known as much for its aggressive recruiting of new distributors as it is for its products. _ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Gottlieb/CIA/LSD Case
-Caveat Lector- Monday May 3 8:46 AM ET Jury Rules For Dead CIA Agent In LSD Case NEW YORK (Reuters) - A jury Friday ruled against the estate of an artist who said he was driven mad by a clubfooted CIA agent who slipped LSD into his drink in 1952. In a case involving a dead plaintiff, a dead defendant and a dead judge, the suit revolved around the activities of the late Sidney Gottlieb, head of the CIA's Cold War efforts to control the human mind. In the 1950s and 1960s the CIA gave mind-altering drugs to hundreds of unsuspecting Americans in an effort to explore the possibilities of controlling human consciousness. The practice came to light during widely publicized congressional hearings in the mid-1970s. Gottlieb died last month. The New York suit was brought by Stanley Glickman, an American artist who had been living in Paris in the early 1950s. Glickman, who died in 1992, alleged that he had been drinking with a friend and three other men at a bar. One of the men, who had a clubfoot, offered him a drink and halfway through the beverage, Glickman said he had such severe hallucinations that he had to be hospitalized. Glickman's family brought him back to the United States for treatment several months later, but he never fully recovered. The suit was not filed until 1983, after the congressional hearings involving Gottlieb -- who had a clubfoot -- were broadcast. After 16 years, the case finally went to trial and was nearing final summations Tuesday when presiding Judge Dominick DiCarlo died Tuesday while exercising in a federal court gym. The case was immediately transferred to U.S. District Judge Kimba Wood, who had thrown out the suit in 1997. However, it was later reinstated by the Second Circuit Court of Appeals. Closing arguments were held Thursday and the jury deliberated about seven hours before ruling against the artist's estate. _ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OEN 5/4/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - US Stock Market Buffett Warns Re High Corporate Profits Has nasty things to say about accountants and money managers Warren Buffett believes the high level of US corporate profits may be unsustainable. America's second-richest man, who chairs the investment group Berkshire Hathaway, said yesterday: "With long-term interest rates at 5.5 per cent, there are a lot of questions about whether returns on equity can remain at 18-20 per cent. A lot of companies are implicitly promising you those returns will continue, but I am dubious about those claims." The warning, which came at this year's annual meeting of Berkshire Hathaway, may be taken as a caution that stocks in general are too high, although Mr Buffett emphasised that he and his partner, vice-chairman Charlie Munger, never have a view on the stock market itself. Mr Munger did add, however, that he thought internet stocks were "irrationally overvalued". In general, though, Mr Buffett said: "Current valuations could continue for many years. They could even get higher. We don't worry about that, we just try to buy good businesses at intelligent prices." Mr Buffett admitted that acquisitions and investment ideas large enough to make a difference to Berkshire's $57bn net worth were increasingly difficult to find, largely because prices of big, public companies had risen sharply over the past few years. As a result, Berkshire, which has $15bn in cash, has been looking outside the US, including Japan, Europe and the UK, where Mr Buffett said in some cases prices looked a little more reasonable, although he added that there was not a great difference. But Mr Munger was quick to stress that talk that Berkshire was buying into a particular UK stock was "a non-event" and insignificant given the investment group's size. Mr Buffett said: "When we find something good we are prepared to move quickly and invest big. But right now there are few things to buy, so we are just being patient." Speaking to more than 14,000 shareholders, some of whom had flown from around the world to be in Omaha, the two partners joked their way through six hours of questions, often to cheers and spontaneous applause. But they had harsh words for two groups of people: accountants and money managers. "Accounting in America is corrupt," said Mr Munger, referring to the large restructuring charges regularly recorded by many companies and the practice of not charging the value of employee stock options to profits - both perfectly legal. Mr Buffett said he was amazed that fund managers, who were simply intermediaries between investors and companies, were able to charge fees of up to 3 per cent "for accomplishing absolutely nothing". He put this "frictional cost" of investment at $75bn annually, or more than a fifth of the entire earnings of the top 500 US companies. The Financial Times, May 4, 1999 Terrorist Notebook No Need for Y2K: Graphite Bombs Take Down Power Grid Will NATO inspire copycat bomb-makers, a la Littleton? PARIS - Using a new U.S. weapon for the first time in combat, NATO knocked out electricity in Belgrade and most of Serbia on Monday by causing short circuits that took Yugoslav technicians hours to repair. The warhead is so new that its name and specifications have not been publicly released, including whether it is delivered as a bomb or by missile. Experts said that it dusted power cables with graphite filaments that triggered massive short circuits at switching stations and caused power grids to shut down. The attack, which Belgrade residents said deprived the city of power for most of the night and again Monday afternoon, was described by a NATO spokesman as a fresh blow to the Serbian military's operations in Kosovo. The technological escalation was mainly a signal intended to discourage the Serbian leadership from continuing a war that NATO leaders insist will turn increasingly against Belgrade. ''We wanted a compelling demonstration of power and restraint,'' an alliance official said. By unsheathing a new weapon, NATO appeared to be signaling that its determination had not been altered by current diplomatic overtures from Belgrade. President Bill Clinton was considering messages about the conflict Monday from Slobodan Milosevic, the Yugoslav leader. One was carried by the Reverend Jesse Jackson, the American civil rights activist who arranged the release of three U.S. servicemen captured by Serbia. The second letter was brought by Viktor Chernomyrdin, the Russian special envoy for the Balkans crisis, who was consulting with Mr. Clinton at the White House on Monday. Mr. Clinton has pledged to stand with other NATO leaders in demanding that the alliance's conditions be met before any consideration can be given to a halt in the bombing. ''Our conditions for ending the bombing are not complicated,'' Mr. Clinton
[CTRL] Fwd: New York Times International Headlines
In a message dated 5/4/99 3:48:19 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Japan Recession Stifles Trade Climate, if Not Summit Talk President Clinton and Japan's Prime Minister professed to be in fundamental agreement on strategies to pull Japan out of a seven-year-long economic slump. But their daylong meeting underscored how many of Clinton's once-ambitious economic initiatives with Tokyo have been sunk by the Japanese recession. http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/asia/050499japan-us.html - Good morning. Here are summaries of today's top international news from The New York Times on the Web. - NATO Air Attacks on Power Plants Cross a Threshold Broadening the scope of its air strikes, NATO attacked Yugoslavia's electrical system, cutting off power to millions of civilians as well as military units in the field. http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/europe/050499kosovo-nato.html - Russian Delivers Kosovo Plan to Clinton President Clinton held an extended discussion with the Russian special envoy for the Balkans, but the White House remained pessimistic about the prospect of a deal anytime soon to end the conflict in Kosovo. http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/europe/050499kosovo-prexy.html - Japan Recession Stifles Trade Climate, if Not Summit Talk President Clinton and Japan's Prime Minister professed to be in fundamental agreement on strategies to pull Japan out of a seven-year-long economic slump. But their daylong meeting underscored how many of Clinton's once-ambitious economic initiatives with Tokyo have been sunk by the Japanese recession. http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/asia/050499japan-us.html - Moscoso's Election Marks Pivotal Point for Panama For more than 20 years, Mireya Elisa Moscoso lived in the shadow of a man 45 years her senior who, she says, even told her how to wear her hair. But by the side of that man, Panama's three-time president, Arnulfo Arias, she also gained a political schooling that helped transform her into "Senora Presidenta." http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/americas/050499panama-moscoso.html - Afrikaners Have a Dream, Very Like the Old One The 600 people of Orania are so committed to keeping blacks out that they are even willing to do all their own work, including cleaning and gardening, jobs that many white South Africans have never done for themselves. http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/africa/050499safrica-whites.html - Islamic Woman in a Head Scarf Suddenly Galvanizes Turkey Last week, almost no one in Turkey had heard of Merve Kavakci. Now, she stands accused of nothing less than trying to destroy the nation, and Turks are talking of little else. http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/world/turkey-politics.html - Colombia and Guerrillas Agree to Start Peace Talks After more than six months of on-again, off-again discussions, the government and the main left-wing guerrilla group announced they had agreed not only to begin formal peace negotiations, but also to invite international observers to sit in on the talks. http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/world/colombia-rebels.html - To view today's articles with your personal search terms or to sign up for personal search, see http://www.nytimes.com/partners/iib/services/personalsearch.html - You received these headlines because you requested The New York Times Direct daily e-mail service. To cancel delivery or change delivery options, see http://www.nytimes.com/nytdirect -
[CTRL] Fwd: WND - SECRET PACT - CIA Chinese Army Share SIGNIT Bases
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_smith/19990504_xcsof_our_pact_w.shtml In 1978, President Carter and Chinese Premier Deng Xioping made a secret Sino-U.S. pact "to setup, install, man, equip and service a series of SIGNIT (signals intelligence) sites along that country's border with the Soviet Union". According to a 1995 CHINA-GATE document forced from the Clinton administration by Federal Court, CIA and Chinese Army intelligence agents jointly share two military radio signals intercept stations in China. The two sites are located deep inside the far western province of Xinjiang at Qitai and Korla. The two stations were built and equipped with state of the art American electronics by the CIA's office of SIGNIT operations (OSO). Chinese Army personnel, who share the sites with U.S. NSA and CIA agents, are trained by the CIA inside the U.S. at a location just outside San Francisco. The PLA SIGNIT agents are identified as coming from the 2nd Department of the Chinese Army General Staff division (GSD). The original intention of the joint U.S/Sino pact was to watch Soviet missile launches and nuclear tests during the cold war. The joint U.S.-Sino spy operation made sense because in 1980 because one third of the Russian nuclear arsenal was then pointed at Beijing. In 1978, the cold war threatened to turn very hot along the Chinese border. In 1980, the SS-20, a new and frightening Soviet mobile missile was deployed against China and Europe. The SS-20 is a modern, solid rocket, tactical missile equipped with three, one megaton, H-bombs. Hundreds of mobile Soviet SS-20 missiles ranged from the Urals to Siberia, threatening to pour thermonuclear warheads onto any target in Europe and Asia with little or no warning. Today, the Soviet Union is no more. There is nothing for the sites at Qitai and Korla to monitor. The Soviet missile launch sites are now rusting hulks on abandoned bases. Russia has destroyed all of the dangerous SS-20 missiles. Furthermore, Russian nuclear bomb tests are done inside U.S. built super-computers, peddled to Moscow weapons labs by President Clinton's silicon valley supporters. Yet, the 1995 document suggests that the joint PLA/CIA operation to gather signals from Russia may not have ended with the cold-war. Operations at these two sites appear to have expanded to include Asian military communication, radar and computer networks. Since his election in 1992, the joint U.S./Sino tap on Asian communications appears to moved into a new and global phase under President Clinton. The "strategic" partnership between Bill Clinton and the Chinese Generals included a vast array of new equipment and training to the Chinese Army Signal Corps. Modern war dictates that signal intercepts must be done by satellite. The most modern element of Chinese Army Signals intelligence (SIGNIT, COMINT and ELINT) is the "Ferret" satellites operated by Beijing. Chinese Army satellite intelligence operations are led by the Commission for Science, Technology and Industry for National Defense (COSTIND). In 1995, COSTIND was run by the notorious spy-master General Ding Henggao. Ding and other PLA officers under his command met and worked directly with Commerce Dept. officials to transfer a wide array of technology to China. COSTIND and General Ding bought satellites, fiber-optic communications, super-computers, GPS systems, encrypted (secure) communication, and radiation hardened micro-chips. The contacts, detailed in over 1,000 pages of materials forced from the Clinton administration, shows that China Great Wall Industry is a company controlled by the PLA unit COSTIND. According to the documents, Great Wall is owned by "China Electronics Systems Engineering Company (CESEC), a subsidiary of the People's Liberation Army". The Commerce Dept. knew in 1993 that Great Wall, along with nine other PLA controlled companies, had sold nuclear tipped M-9 missiles to Pakistan. Less than a year later, in 1994, Great Wall was allowed to buy into the Iridium satellite project run by Motorola. The PLA share included launching Iridium satellites on Chinese rockets and a host of other advanced space technologies including satellite telemetry stations, and encrypted satellite control systems. According to Henry Sokolski, Executive Director at the Nonproliferation Policy Education Center, the Iridium sale "helped China master the technology needed to develop its own multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicles for the new solid rocket intercontinental ballistic missile it is trying to derive from SS-25 missile technology with the Russians". In short, China can now effectively double the number of H-bombs it can deliver on America thanks to Motorola. What is the difference between twenty thermonuclear bombs and forty? The difference works out to about 100 million dead. Great Wall now sells Iridium satellite phone service at great profit to Asian customers, including its parent/owners in the PLA.
[CTRL] Fwd: S99-64, Day 42, Update 1 (May 4; 0:30PM EDT) - A Special TiM GW Bulletin on NATO's War on Serbia
FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA The Special Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins on NATO's war on Serbia, such as the one enclosed below, can also be accessed at our Web site: www.truthinmedia.org which is being updated throughout the day. NOTE FROM TiM EDITOR: Back in Phoenix, again, as you can see. And starting to dig out from a huge backlog of e-mails which have accumulated while we were traveling. So please be patient with us, especially with regard to any requests for e-mail address changes, removals or additions. They are our first priority in dealing with the e-mail avalanche. We'll get to all of them eventually, but it will take us some time. Thanks for your understanding. Issue S99-64, Day 42, Update 1 --- May 4, 1999; 0:30AM EDT HEADLINES Phoenix 1. New Photos from Washington Rally, Sound of Bombs in Belgrade, TiM Target Buttons, Pamphlets Washington 2. Washington-supported KLA Finances Kosovo War with Heroin Sales Cambridge3. British International Lawyer Drafts Articles of Indictment for War Crimes by NATO Leaders The Hague4. World Court To Hear Belgrade vs. NATO Case In May Arlington 5. NATO's Losses Detailed by ISSA Parallel Earlier TiM Data Nebraska 6. Nebraska Cattle Ranchers Support TiM Washington (state) 7. Wondrous Embers of Freedom -- 1. New Photos from Washington Rally, Sound of Bombs in Belgrade, TiM Target Buttons, Pamphlets PHOENIX, May 3 - As promised, new photos from the "March on Washington '99" rally at the White House Ellipse are now available at our Web site (see http://www.truthinmedia.org/Kosovo/photos-dc.html ). In addition, we have now also added to our Web site another real life recording of NATO bombs pounding downtown Belgrade on Apr. 30, an event referenced in the TiM editor's speech in Washington on May 1. Check out the S99-61, Day 29, Update 1, May 1, and click on the sound of bombs in the text (http://www.truthinmedia.org/Kosovo/day39up1.html). Ever since we published our Phoenix barbershop story (see "Barbershop Small Talk Turns Ugly," S99-58, Day 36, Update 1, Item 6, Apr. 28), we have been receiving requests from TiM readers around the world for the TiM target buttons which this writer handed out to his German-American lady-barber on Apr. 27 (the actual design of the badges can be seen at our Web site). We're grateful and gratified by the support of the TiM readers who have already ordered various quantities of the TiM target buttons. As a lady-protestor at the Washington, DC, May 1 rally put it, listening to the praises which a friend had been singing to the TiM editor, "That's nice, (name withheld). Now put your money where your mouth is," the lady said, contributing a $20-bill to TiM's efforts. Embarrassed, the man who was heaping mountains of praise upon your editor ran back to his car to get his wallet and make his own contribution. Anyway, for those TiM readers who may like to have some TiM target buttons for their personal use, or for distribution to friends and relatives, we wish to point out that these badges are a part of a fund-raising effort by the Truth in Media, a non-profit organization, as you know. We suggest that a $2-donation per TiM button you may wish to order. If you want to support our work for God's truth, please let us have your snail mail address, along with request for how many buttons you wish to order. Thank you. By the way, we will also include the TiM color pamphlets about NATO's destruction of the civilian targets in Serbia, referenced in my speech at the White House Ellipse, to all TiM supporters, on a first-come-first-serve basis. -- 2. Washington-supported KLA Finances Kosovo War with Heroin Sales WASHINGTON, May 3 - The Kosovo Liberation Army, which the Clinton administration has embraced and some members of Congress want to arm as part of the NATO bombing campaign, is a terrorist organization that has financed much of its war effort with profits from the sale of heroin, the Washington Times reported today. Recently obtained intelligence documents show that drug agents in five countries, including the United States, believe the KLA has aligned itself with an extensive organized crime network centered in Albania that smuggles heroin and some cocaine to buyers throughout Western Europe and, to a lesser extent, the United States. The documents tie members of the Albanian Mafia to a drug smuggling cartel based in Kosovo's provincial capital, Pristina. The cartel is manned by ethic Albanians who are members of the Kosovo National Front, whose armed wing is the KLA. The documents show it is one of the most powerful heroin smuggling organizations in the world, with much of its profits being diverted to the KLA to buy weapons. The clandestine movement of drugs over a collection of land and sea
[CTRL] Fwd: [FTC] Bilderberger Boy
In a message dated 5/4/99 9:46:25 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: [FTC] Bilderberger Boy Date: 5/4/99 9:46:25 AM Central Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linda Muller) Sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Friends - Excellent column from our friends at Insight magazine - FTC - Linda Insight Magazine http://www.insightmag.com/ 5/24/99 The Arrogance of NATO's Power By James P. Lucier Contributing Editor In 1964 the shadowy Bilderberger group met in Williamsburg, Va., and held their first press conference. Organized shortly after World War II by Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands and David Rockefeller, the Bilderbergers were a group of movers and shakers in both the public and private arenas who had been meeting quietly every year, ostensibly to discuss ways to improve cooperation between the United States and Europe. The group was a favorite of conspiracy buffs, who saw the closed meetings as a kind of football huddle where the plays for the coming year were tossed to the Masters of the Universe. This writer, who was then on the staff of a major daily newspaper in Virginia, had suggested in a series of articles that public confidence would be enhanced if the meetings simply were opened to the public. So, lo and behold, the Bilderbergers -- who had never announced their presence in previous meetings -- had that first (and perhaps last) press conference. Bernhard, replete in striped pants, white boutonnière and looking more like a floorwalker in an old-fashioned department store than a Master of the Universe, explained that they had never met the press before because "no one was interested." Among the power brokers that weekend was the then-senior senator from Arkansas, J. William Fulbright, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Amazingly, his entire speech was reprinted shortly afterward in the pages of the New York Times, the first and only time the code of silence was breached. Fulbright spoke of "old myths and new realities." The old myth was that "every Communist state is an unmitigated evil," and the new reality was that "insofar as a nation is content to practice its doctrines within its own frontiers, that nation, however repugnant in its ideology, is one with which we have no proper quarrel." Two years later Fulbright turned against Lyndon Johnson's Vietnam policy, publishing his book The Arrogance of Power. In that same year, Fulbright took a 20-year-old Arkansan under his wing, hiring Bill Clinton to be an assistant clerk in his Senate office. Now fast-forward 33 years, and Clinton is presiding over the 50th anniversary of NATO in Washington. Fulbright is all but forgotten, having been so wrong about communism, so wrong about the Evil Empire, so wrong about everything. But Clinton imbibed those wrong lessons well, and the arrogance of power was on splendid display at the NATO summit. Thanks to Ronald Reagan, not Fulbright, the Evil Empire is no more, and NATO no longer has a reason for being. NATO was set up in 1949 for one purpose and one purpose only: to repulse an "armed attack" against any NATO member. But there isn't a single power anywhere near Europe that is capable of mounting an armed attack or is interested in doing so. Besides, the European nations presumably have grown up since 1949. The European Union, or EU, has half again as many people as the United States and a correspondingly larger combined gross domestic product. By now these Europeans should be big boys capable of handling anybody in the schoolyard. The only problem is that most of the European nations are bogged down in socialist regulations and massive welfare entitlements that block dynamic development, as was evident in the G-7 Economic Ministers' meeting that followed NATO. It is no coincidence that 13 of the 16 EU countries are run by Socialist governments. So it is not surprising that countries that are stuck on central bureaucratic control over the lives of the individual citizen also believe that, as a group, they have a right to abrogate the sovereignty of individual non-NATO states that do bad things. Not wanting the good NATO bureaucracy comfortably ensconced in Brussels to go to waste, the NATO members decided to turn the 1949 NATO treaty on its head. They invented a "new strategy." Instead of NATO remaining a defensive organization intended to protect against armed attack, the new design is for it to become a knight-errant wandering about attacking others who don't recognize its authority. Even though the new strategy effectively obliterates the 1949 treaty, there is no talk of drafting a new treaty to submit to the relevant bodies, such as the U.S. Senate, for ratification. So as the NATO ground troops landed in
[CTRL] Fwd: [FTC] Bipartisan team, sue Clinton over Kosovo
In a message dated 5/4/99 10:04:49 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: [FTC] Bipartisan team, sue Clinton over Kosovo Date: 5/4/99 10:04:49 AM Central Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linda Muller) Sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Friends, will your congressman sign on to this? FTC-Linda -- From: "Larry Becraft" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Paul, bipartisan team, sue Clinton over Kosovo (http://www.house.gov/paul/press Date sent: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:27:25 -0700 FOR RELEASE: May 1, 1999 Lawsuit filed Friday, April 30, 1999 Paul, bipartisan team, sue Clinton over Kosovo Members say President has violated Constitution, War Powers Resolution WASHINGTON, DC -- A bipartisan group of 17 Members of Congress, including US Rep. Ron Paul (R-Surfside, Texas), filed a lawsuit on Friday, April 30, 1999, in federal court against President Bill Clinton for violating both the US Constitution and the 1973 War Powers Resolution with regard to Yugoslavia. Rep. Paul has led Congress in the opposing the unconstitutional military action, introducing the first legislation to stop the measure early in this Congress, and speaking against it last year. "This president has violated the law and he must be taken to task," said Rep. Paul. "It is a shame that Congress has not done more to stop the president from this destructive course. So it is therefore incumbent upon us to resort to the courts to force Mr. Clinton to follow his Oath of Office to uphold the Constitution and laws of the United States." The lawsuit specifically states that the president violated Section 1, Article 8, Clause 11, of the US Constitution by engaging in war without the declaration of such from Congress. The suit also notes that the president violated the 1973 War Powers Resolution for failing to officially report to Congress on his aggressive actions against Yugoslavia within the mandated forty-eight hours. The suit seeks a declaratory judgment from the court, stating that the president has violated both the US Constitution and the War Powers Resolution. The plaintiffs ask the court to order the president to end hostilities by May 25, 1999, and withdrawn troops no later than June 24, 1999. "For more than 50 years, presidents have engaged in foreign adventurism at the cost of American lives without regard for the Constitution. But for the first time we have a president who not only refuses to acknowledge the Constitution, but also the War Powers Resolution which -- in my opinion -- improperly transferred constitutionally non-delegable powers from the legislative to executive branch," said Rep. Paul. "Apparently this president thinks he is king, for in our representative democracy no man is given the power to unilaterally commit troops to battle without the express authorization of the people's representatives in Congress." Joining Rep. Paul in the lawsuit are: Tom Campbell (R, CA), Dennis Kucinich (D, OH), Marcy Kaptur (D, OH), Roscoe Bartlett (R, MD), Bob Barr (R, GA), Dan Burton (R, IN), Philip Crane (R, IL), John Cooksey (R, LA), Walter Jones (R, NC), Donald Manzullo (R, IL), Charlie Norwood (R, GA), Thomas Petri (R, WI), Marshall Sanford (R, SC), Joe Scarborough (R, FL), Bob Schaffer (R, CO), and Thomas Tancredo (R, CO). The Members have legal standing in the suit because the president's actions usurped Congress' constitutional and legal rights to declare war and provide oversight. "This president is putting American soldiers, and indeed all Americans, in danger by engaging in this reckless action," said Rep. Paul. "We must not allow this or any president to declare themselves above the law." Congress voted this week 427 to 2 against a declaration of war with Yugoslavia, voted to prohibit funding for ground elements, and finally, denied support for the ongoing air campaign. FOR MORE NEWS VISIT OUR SITE: http://www.theamericancause.org * Please feel free to forward this email across the USA! * Join our free "FTC" - FOR THE CAUSE - List!!! Go to: http://www.theamericancause.org/cause_listserve.html --- *** ISSUES *** *** ISSUES *** *** ISSUES *** The American Cause Internet Headquarters Web: http://www.theamericancause.org --- *** ACTION *** *** ACTION *** *** ACTION *** Coalition for The American Cause Network Web: http://www.ctacnet.org --- WebMaster - Linda Muller - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Smail: 6862 Elm Street, Suite 210, McLean, Virginia 22101 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[CTRL] Fwd: NOW PLAYING@wga.org: May 3, 1999
Thought this might be of some interest - all you guys out there who love to write you are in on the ground floor here The day is coming when people will realize that the newspaper as we knew it is gone forever; but also, remember every day of your life, millions of newspapers going down to the trash.telephone books that cannot be recycled because of the binding. Look at the trees we will save, by picking this stuff up on the internet.this of course is the future, I think..things change. This is interesting publication; Writers Guild West protects writings that are not copyrighted. Colleen NOW PLAYING @ wga.org May 3, 1999 Vol. II, Issue 9 The official e-newsletter of The Writers Guild of America http://www.wga.org = IN THIS ISSUE: 1. SPECIAL WEB REPORT: Opportunities for Professional Writers 2. THE WRITERS WORKBENCH: MS Publisher Internet World Freebies 3. HOT RESEARCH LINKS: Screaming in the Celluloid Jungle, and more! 4. LEGISLATIVE UPDATE: Banning Home Permits; WGA's Privacy Amendment 5. WORDS INTO PICTURES: '99 Film TV Writers 3-Day Forum 6. MEMBERS ONLY: May 12 Vote on Executive Director, Amendments 7. WRITTEN BY: Richard Stayton Named New Editor of Magazine = 1. SPECIAL WEB REPORT: Opportunities for Professional Writers The potential for professional writers to find work on the Internet is increasing, according to What's Happening on the Web? A Writer's Perspective of an Emerging Medium, a web study report written by Carolyn Miller Liz Mitchell of the Creative Media Technologies Committee of the Writers Guild of America, west. "At this point," says the report, "a large amount of original content on the Internet is being written in information areas such as news, sports, finance, health and science but the information is presented distinctively, with attractive graphics, stills and increasingly, audio and video." In terms of entertainment on the web, the report points out that although the emphasis currently remains on production and information about show business, "original entertainment content on the web has grown dramatically in recent months, largely due to the emergence of streaming video technology." The report also mentions recent convergence ventures and the formation of new entertainment-rich "networks," and discusses how these developments might affect opportunities for writers. The report focuses on websites that are making interesting use of the Internet's unique capabilities and its possibilities for screenwriters. It divides the web into online categories - including original entertainment, online games, online sites for children, news and information sites, corporate sites and networks/communities sites aimed at particular groups of people like women or seniors. The report also includes three pages of highlights, information about the web as a marketplace for writers, and lists the "top 20 must-see sites" from a writer's point of view. "The time is coming when writers could make their living writing films and shows exclusively for the web," says Daniel Petrie, Jr., President WGAw. "It's an exciting time, and one that presents the possibility of a whole new market for the work of writers." The Writers Guild covers writers working in the interactive industry as well as the traditional entertainment industry. The guild offers a special agreement to interactive producers who want to work with the professional writers represented by the guild. The web study report is available to Guild members as well as non-members by contacting the Guild's Industry Alliances Department. The complete report can be found at: http://wga.org/tools/Internet/index.html = 2. THE WRITERS WORKBENCH: MS Publisher Internet World Freebies Microsoft Publisher has always been a seriously impressive program. On the one hand, very easy, filled with macros and templates for even the most graphically-befuddled, according to Robert J. Elisberg, yet powerful and sophisticated for professional application. With Publisher 98, the program has extended itself on both ends. Publisher is pretty basic. And comprehensive. And a breeze. If you have even the slightest inclination towards creating graphical publications -- whether or not you have the talent to do so -- Publisher is an impressive program to check out. Bonus Drawer: At the Spring Internet World convention in Los Angeles, Elisberg got a taste of some hot new products and services, including the best kind of all -- freebies! He gives us a glimpse of four promising new technologies: Punch, FaxWave, Aplio, and McAfee.Com. http://www.wga.org/tools/workbench/0499/index2.html = 3. HOT RESEARCH LINKS: Screaming in the Celluloid Jungle, and more! New Screenwriter Links This Week Screaming in The Celluloid Jungle - A site for screenwriters and filmmakers featuring regularly-updated script sales and deals; featured agents, WGA signatory agencies, and an agency contact list; production company contact
[CTRL] Private Spy in Space to Rival Military's
-Caveat Lector- April 27, 1999 Private Spy in Space to Rival Military's Forum Join a Discussion on Science in the News http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?13@@.efdb6a0 By WILLIAM J. BROAD If all goes well Tuesday, years of planning, delay and debate will culminate in the launching of the world's most powerful civilian spacecraft for observing the Earth and its human dramas, inaugurating the first real rival to military spies in the sky. The satellite, built by Lockheed Martin for Space Imaging, a Colorado company, is to be hurled from a California launching pad into an orbit some 420 miles high, where its cameras will be able to record cars, homes, hot tubs, roads, buildings, bridges, convoys, tanks, jets, missiles and mass graves -- though not individual people. Satellite images could appeal to urban planners, or despots. And before the year is out, two more American companies plan to loft reconnaissance craft with similar powers. In all, a dozen or so are expected to be launched in the next decade. Though civilian "remote sensing" satellites have been observing the Earth since 1972, their images are wide-scale and the details fuzzy. The new surveillance technology is likely to be a powerful new tool for miners, geographers, urban planners and disaster-relief officials, to name a few potential clients. But the sharp-eyed cameras to be launched raise fears, too, about lost privacy and the possibility that images from such satellites will be just as valuable to adversaries like Slobodan Milosevic. Experts on space reconnaissance in and out of the Federal Government agree that the national security implications of the new technology have been inadequately thought out -- a worry thrown into sharp focus by the crisis in the Balkans. "Any time a powerful new technology is introduced, there's a battle over the uses to which it's put," Christopher Simpson, a reconnaissance expert at American University in Washington, said in an interview. "Here, the potential for beneficial uses is very high, on balance. But the potential for abuse certainly exists and we'll no doubt see some of that." The Clinton Administration released this genie in 1994 when it lifted technical restrictions on private companies, letting them build a new generation of satellites that could peer down to see objects on the ground as small as a yard wide -- enough to distinguish between a car and a truck. Even white lines on the black asphalt of parking lots are said to be discernible. Today, the new companies organized to take advantage of the change have backlogs of orders, including at least $1 billion from Federal intelligence agencies eager to supplement their spy satellites. Indeed, governments -- and military forces -- at home and abroad are expected to be top customers for years to come. "The militaries have a well-developed idea of what they want and have the money to pay for it," said Albert D. Wheelon, a former Central Intelligence Agency official who helped run the nation's early spy satellites and is now retired. "On the civilian side, I think that will take a long time, like computers did." The art of photographing the earth from outer space began when military spy craft were first lofted in 1960. Over the years, their vision sharpened, and military craft, particularly American craft, are still the undisputed leaders, their cameras said to be strong enough to see a car's license plate. Until recently, photos from commercial satellites have been much fuzzier, revealing only large features like fields, lakes, rivers and mountains. But little by little, their cameras have improved. Today, France, India and Russia sell the best commercial photos taken from outer space. The sharpest of all are Russian and show objects on the ground as small as two meters, or about six feet, enough detail to allow users to see tanks and other large military objects. In December 1997, Earthwatch Inc. of Longmont, Colo., lofted a satellite meant to see features as small as 10 feet. But the craft failed in orbit, prompting American rivals to tread with caution. While many other American craft of the improved class are still in planning stages, no others have gone into service. But Space Imaging is now ready to leapfrog ahead with a camera that sees objects as small as one meter, or about three feet -- the sharpest ever for civilian craft. Privately held and based in Denver, the company says it has about $700 million from a consortium of backers made up of Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Mitsubishi and other international partners. The company has 285 employees. Its president is Jeffrey K. Harris, who from 1994 to 1996 ran the National Reconnaissance Office, the secretive Federal group that builds and runs the Government's spy satellites. Today's launching was first planned for December 1997 but was delayed after the Earthwatch failure. If all goes well, a nine-story Athena II rocket made, like the satellite, by Lockheed Martin, will
[CTRL] U.S. admits Sudan bomb error
-Caveat Lector- US admits Sudan bombing mistake By Andrew Marshall in Washington In an admission that last year's missile attack on a factory in Sudan was a mistake, the US has cleared the man who owned the plant of any links to terrorism. The embarrassing reversal means that the US has virtually no evidence to support its claim that the missile attack was a strike against terrorism. Most of those who have investigated the case have concluded that the US acted on faulty intelligence and that key procedures were overridden by officials in the White House. The affair is already the subject of congressional inquiries and may result in the departure of some senior White House officials. America launched cruise missiles against targets in Afghanistan and Sudan in August last year after bomb attacks on its embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam. It blamed the bombings on Osama bin Laden, the former Saudi who it accuses of backing many attacks on US targets. It said that the pharmaceutical plant in Khartoum was linked to Mr. bin Laden and was used to produce chemical weapons. The US was forced to admit within hours that the plant was not a Sudanese government facility, but a private factory belonging to Salah Idris, a Saudi businessman. But it then said that Mr. Idris was himself linked to terrorism and to Mr. bin Laden. It froze all of his bank accounts, including money held at Bank of America in London. Yesterday, with no public announcement or fanfare, it unfroze the accounts, admitting that no evidence existed to accuse Mr. Idris. Mr. Idris hired Akin, Gump Strauss, Hauer Feld, a top Washington law firm, to press his case. He sued Bank of America and the US government, and hired Kroll Associates, the top private investigators, to clear him. Kroll found no evidence of any links between Mr. Idris and Mr bin Laden. Yesterday, the US was due to reply to Mr Idris's law suits, but instead chose to retreat and unfreeze the accounts. "Today's order lifting all restrictions on the Bank of America accounts also effectively removes any suggestion that Mr Idris has, at any time, maintained a relationship with Osama bin Laden or any terrorist group or organisation," said Akin, Gump in a statement. Spokesmen for Mr Idris said they were "jubilant" but that there could still be a law suit to recover compensation. "I am grateful that the United States has taken the honourable course and has corrected, in part, the serious harm that has been done to my family and our good name," said Mr Idris yesterday from Sudan. "While I understand that the United States must wage a vigorous fight against terrorism, in this case a grave error has been made." Britain never supported the idea that Mr Idris had links to Mr bin Laden, and he was permitted to enter and leave London (where he maintains a flat) freely. The widespread view outside the US was that the White House had insufficient evidence for the attack. STOP! Your Help is Killing Us! - "No blood for blow jobs" --a placard Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] KLA funding tied to heroin profits
-Caveat Lector- Washington Times front-page headline 19980503: May 3, 1999 [ top-billing above 3 soldiers release by Jesse Jackson in Yugo, Monday May 3rd following Saturday May 1st Mike Ruppert speech at DC "March on Washington '99" rally in front of White House supported by about 150 MayDay medical marijuana activists (Million Marijuana March)who from the rally marched around the White House after demonstrating against Rep. Bob Barr's scheduled speech, which was cancelled at the last minute, and in support of Ruppert's efforts to stop CIA confessed involvement in the hard drug trade, the CIA-KLA connection http://www.copvcia.com , and to bring out the truth about the medical marijuana issue in order to stop the drug war subterfuge oppressing Americans and populations around the world with crime, insurgencies and wars that could lead to nuclear and environmental catastrophe] The Washington Times, May 3, 1999 KLA funding tied to heroin profits By Jerry Seper The Kosovo Liberation Army, which the Clinton administration has embraced and some members of Congress want to arm as part of the NATO bombing campaign, is a terrorist organization that has financed much of its war effort with profits from the sale of heroin. Recently obtained intelligence documents show that drug agents in five countries, including the United States, believe the KLA has aligned itself with an extensive organized crime network centered in Albania that smuggles heroin and some cocaine to buyers throughout Western Europe and, to a lesser extent, the United States. The documents tie members of the Albanian Mafia to a drug smuggling cartel based in Kosovo's provincial capital, Pristina. The cartel is manned by ethic Albanians who are members of the Kosovo National Front, whose armed wing is the KLA. The documents show it is one of the most powerful heroin smuggling organizations in the world, with much of its profits being diverted to the KLA to buy weapons. The clandestine movement of drugs over a collection of land and sea routes from Turkey through Bulgaria, Greece and Yugoslavia to Western Europe and elsewhere is so frequent and massive that intelligence officials have dubbed the circuit the "Balkan Route." Mr. Clinton has committed air power and is considering the use of ground troops to support the Kosovo rebels against Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic. Last week, Sen. Mitch McConnell, Kentucky Republican, and Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, Connecticut Democrat, called on the United States to arm the KLA so ethnic Albanians in Kosovo could defend themselves against the Serbs. Mr. McConnell and Mr. Lieberman introduced a bill that would provide $25 million to equip 10,000 men or 10 battalions with small arms and anti-tank weapons for up to 18 months. In 1998, the U.S. State Department listed the KLA -- formally known as the Ushtria Clirimtare e Kosoves, or UCK -- as an international terrorist organization, saying it had bankrolled its operations with proceeds from the international heroin trade and from loans from known terrorists like Osama bin Laden. "They were terrorists in 1998 and now, because of politics, they're freedom fighters," said one top drug official who asked not to be identified. The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, in a recent report, said the heroin is smuggled along the Balkan Route in cars, trucks and boats initially to Austria, Germany and Italy, where it is routed to eager buyers in France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Switzerland and Great Britain. Some of the white powder, the DEA report said, finds its way to the United States. The DEA report, prepared for the National Narcotics Intelligence Consumer's Committee (NNICC), said a majority of the heroin seized in Europe is transported over the Balkan Route. It said drug smuggling organizations composed of Kosovo's ethnic Albanians were considered "second only to Turkish gangs as the predominant heroin smugglers along the Balkan Route." The NNICC is a coalition of federal agencies involved in the war on drugs. "Kosovo traffickers were noted for their use of violence and for their involvement in international weapons trafficking," the DEA report said. A separate DEA document, written last month by U.S. drug agents in Austria, said that while the war in the former Yugoslavia had reduced the drug flow to Western Europe along the Balkan Route, new land routes have opened across Romania, Hungary and the Czech Republic. The report said, however, the diversion appeared to be only temporary. The DEA estimated that between four and six metric tons of heroin leaves each month from Turkey bound for Western Europe, the bulk of it traveling over the Balkan Route. A second high-ranking U.S. drug official, who also requested anonymity, said government and police corruption in Kosovo, along with widespread poverty throughout the region, had contributed to an increase in heroin trafficking by the KLA and other ethnic Albanians.
Re: [CTRL] U.N. Sees Rising Xenophobia in Mandela's S.Africa
-Caveat Lector- Despite the ever-present risk of being labelled a racist in our politically-correct society, I have to say with total objectivity that this is just one more indication that the blacks are totally destroying this nation now that they've taken it over. Following is another news report to the same effect: Crime stalks corridors of Africa's largest hospital: staff SOWETO, South Africa, May 4 (AFP) - Crime, corruption and gun-toting thugs have crippled southern Africa's largest hospital, the Chris Hani Baragwanath in Soweto, endangering the lives of its patients, staff said Tuesday. Doctors, nurses and administrators told Deputy President Thabo Mbeki during frank talks at the 3,200-bed hospital on the outskirts of this sprawling black township near Johannesburg, that they feared being killed if they fingered criminals. A doctor, who like the scores of staff members who addressed Mbeki did not give his name, said because of large-scale theft of linen, patients' wounds often turned septic. "Some patients are forced to lie on rubber mats," the doctor said. "It is not good for them." Nurses said drugs, food, crockery and essential medical equipment was frequently stolen, leaving staff unable to care properly for the patients. "Food leaves the kitchen but does not arrive at the wards," one said. A nursing sister in the hospital's trauma unit said thieves, who manage somehow to get past hospital security, frequently raid the ward for the property of patients who die. "When we try stop them, they draw their guns," she said. Nurses told Mbeki, who Tuesday toured Soweto as part of his campaigning for general elections on June 2, that they were frightened to work at night as they were threatened by gun-wielding thugs. One nursing sister said that those who report criminals to the authorities are beaten up or "thrown from a bridge." Staff members spoke of "crime syndicates" they said were operating from the hospital. An employee in the motor accidents unit alleged that patient records were being stolen by doctors, nurses and administration staff for sale to lawyers involved in a motor vehicle insurance scam. Mbeki, who was accompanied by Safety and Security Minister Sydney Mufamadi and senior police officials, promised that security at the hospital, which draws patients from across Africa, would immediately be addressed. "Security obviously isn't strong enough," Mbeki said. "We need to make sure no one comes at night and threatens staff." He urged staff members to "take a little bit of courage" and turn in the criminals. "It is not good that this major hospital on the African continent has a bad name," Mbeki said. Addressing members of the Soweto community in the Orlando West section of the township later, Mbeki urged all South Africans to "blow the whistle on criminals." Hundreds of people, young and old, employed and unemployed, poor and even poorer, lined up at a hall in Orlando West to sketch a picture of unbridled crime, police corruption and of being gripped by fear whether at home, on the street or at school. One man, wearing a T-shirt reading "Stop Killing Our Police," told Mbeki that while most police officers were "good", some were "destructive", while some were "actually killers working hand in hand with criminals." A teenager admitted to Mbeki he had stolen cellular phones and had broken into people's houses because his unemployed parents could not afford to feed the family. "When you are president, give our parents jobs so they can feed us," the boy said. Mbeki is likely to succeed President Nelson Mandela when he steps down in June. Mbeki told the meeting that while the government would do everything possible to curb crime, it needed the cooperation of citizens. "It is important that you give us names of the criminals and identify those who are carrying unlicensed firearms," he said. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL
[CTRL] Fwd: S99-63, Day 41, Update 1 (May 3; 3:00PM EDT) - A Special TiM GW Bulletin on NATO's War on Serbia
FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA The Special Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins on NATO's war on Serbia, such as the one enclosed below, can also be accessed at our Web site: www.truthinmedia.org which is being updated throughout the day. NOTE FROM TiM EDITOR: Back in Phoenix, again, as you can see. And starting to dig out from a huge backlog of e-mails which have accumulated while we were traveling. So please be patient with us, especially with regard to any requests for e-mail address changes, removals or additions. They are our first priority in dealing with the e-mail avalanche. We'll get to all of them eventually, but it will take us some time. Thanks for your understanding. Issue S99-63, Day 41, Update 1 --- May 3, 1999; 3:00PM EDT HEADLINES Belgrade 1. NATO Knocks Out Electricity in Serbia Pec2. NATO Hits Another Bus Near Pec, 30 Civilians Perish; Woman Killed in Srem. Mitrovica While Hanging Laundry New York 3. Another "Albright Story:" Gen. Wesley Clark, Grandson of Russian Jew, Mass Murderer with Personal Vendetta Minnesota4. The Real Agenda of a Foreign Cabal Jerusalem 5. Jackson's CFR Mission (By Barry Chamish) New York6. Journalist: Standing in Solidarity with Serbs -- 1. NATO Knocks Out Electricity in Serbia BELGRADE, May 3 - A day after Belgrade released the three American POWs Washington and Brussels said "thank you" by bombing much of Serbia practically into stone age. NATO air strikes hit Kostolac and Obrenovac gigantic electric power plants on the 40th day of bombing, leaving Belgrade, Vojvodina and much of Serbia without power. Last night's bombing has caused a complete breakdown in power supply to about 65% of Serbia, 80% of Republika Srpska in the neighboring Bosnia and Herzegovina, TiM sources estimate. Some parts of Croatia and Macedonia, who also receive power from Obrenovac. "Civilians are left without water supply, bakeries don't work, hospitals cannot treat patients etc.," a TiM correspondent from Belgrade reports. Which means that the TV and Internet services have now also been cut off. Except for those using laptops, whose batteries are also going to run out in a few hours. "Whose capacity to fight were they (NATO) trying to disable - of pensioners, kids, bakers, kidney patients?" our outraged correspondent asks, adding that, "THIS IS CLEARLY A WAR CRIME! Atilla the Hun and Hitler had far more sensitivity for human suffering than (Bill) Clinton, (Gen. Wesley) Clark and their bunch." Other TiM sources in Serbia also report severe hardships in coping with a life without electrical power at the end of the 20th century, which has made so many people dependent on electricity. But NATO's savagery is also bringing the best in the people of Serbia, as families and strangers bond together in a quest for survival. One family in Vojvodina, for example, has cooked its main meal today using an old propane camping stove. Others are bringing out of their sheds, garages or barns the long-forgotten wood burning stoves. And families who have either gas or wood burning stoves are sharing them with those who don't. Fortunately, with temperatures in the low 80s (Fahrenheit; 28 Celsius), God has once again intervened on behalf of the Serbs enabling them also to use outdoor barbecues in lieu of kitchen stoves. - 2. NATO Hits Another Bus Near Pec, 30 Civilians Perish; Woman Killed in Srem. Mitrovica While Hanging Laundry PEC, May 3 - Escalating its war on Serb and Albanian civilians, NATO hit today a bus traveling from the western Kosovo city of Pec to Rozaje in neighboring Montenegro, killing 20 people, according to an Associate Press report, which cited the Montenegrin Montena-fax news agency. Three civilian and two police cars also were destroyed in the attack, which took place 12 miles north of Pec. Many Albanian civilians on board the bus were also killed, according to Serb sources. SREM MITROVICA, May 3 - Elsewhere in Serbia, a 39-year old woman was killed yesterday as she was hanging out her laundry to dry in Srem. Mitrovica, a mid-size town some 40 miles west of Belgrade. The mother of a small child was hit by a shrapnel as NATO bombed again the nearby empty and long ago-abandoned YU Army barracks. The same site had been struck many times before, damaging the nearby civilian homes. But this was the first civilian casualty which resulted from such senseless bombing. - 3. Another "Albright Story:" Gen. Wesley Clark, Grandson of Russian Jew, Murderer with Personal Vendetta NEW YORK, May 3 - A story in today's New York Times revealed that Gen. Wesley Clark is a mass murderer with a personal vendetta against the Serbian Orthodox Christians, co-religionists of the Russians, who had supposedly persecuted Clark's grandfather, a Russian Jew. With one big difference,
[CTRL] The ENFEPOL 98 Affair
-Caveat Lector- Euro police press on ... and America's guiding hand is revealed http://www.heise.de/tp/english/special/enfo/6397/1.html THE LATEST VERSION of the ENFOPOL 98 interception plan has just been leaked in London. It reveals that although the name of the key document has been changed, European Commission officials still want to make tapping the Internet official European policy by the end of May. They are pressing on, despite strong domestic opposition in Germany and Austria and recent condemnation by the European Parliament. The new document is called ENFOPOL 19. It was obtained this week by Caspar Bowden of the London-based Foundation for Information Policy Research . ENFOPOL 19 was written at a police officials' meeting in Brussels on 11 March, and was issued by the German presidency on 15 March. According to the British government, "the German Presidency has indicated that it hopes to seek agreement to the draft Council Resolution at the Justice and Home Affairs Council in May". The Council will meet on 27-28 May. ENFOPOL 19 still concerns "interception of telecommunications in relation to new technologies". But instead of detailing massive new requirements for tapping the Internet and other new communications systems, the police group is now pretending that it is not a new policy at all. Referring to the first European tapping plan of 1995, ENFOPOL 19 says that "the requirements of law enforcement agencies ... are applicable both to existing and new communications technologies, for example satellite telecommunications and Internet telecommunications". Thus, it claims, the "technical terms" in the 1995 plan "are to be interpreted as applying to ... in the case of the Internet, the static and dynamic IP address, credit card number and E-mail address". In fact, the 1995 policy says nothing about credit card numbers being used to tap telecommunications. The new document points out that when tapping the Internet, it is not necessary to ask for the details of the sender and the recipient, because these are included in every "datagram" or IP packet. So new regulations for the Internet may not be needed. But this is a deceptive manoeuvre. Successive redrafts of ENFOPOL 98 reveal that the original, highly controversial plan exposed by Telepolis has been broken up into at least five parts, which are now being handled separately: Plans for tapping Iridium and other satellite-based personal communications systems have been separated and are being discussed at a high level in the Commission; Part of ENFOPOL 98 which set out new requirements for personal data about subscribers will be included in "other Council Resolutions to be adopted"; Another resolution will require Internet Service Providers to set up high security interception interfaces inside their premises. These "interception interfaces" would have to be installed in a high security zone to which only security cleared and vetted employees could have access. This is not included in ENFOPOL 19; ENFOPOL 19 also suggests that some tapping systems could operate through a "virtual interface". This would mean installing special software at Internet access points, controlled remotely by government security agencies. A fourth new policy concerning cryptography is now being dealt with separately. The police group now plan that the old and new resolutions will be put into a monitoring "manual", together with detailed instructions on intercepting the Internet. This will include "technical descriptions" which have been taken out of the original ENFOPOL 98 . If this manoeuvre succeeds, then ENFOPOL 98 will escape scrutiny by being smuggled through in parts, while the European Parliament is dissolved (because of the June Euro-elections). But the biggest secret about ENFOPOL 98 has never been told, until now. The controversial document wasn't written by European governments or the European Commission. Both ENFOPOL 98 and Europe's 1995 monitoring policy were written by a US-dominated group of security and law enforcement agency experts, called ILETS. This group does not include any industry or human rights and privacy law advisers. Over the last six years, ILETS has single-handedly forced governments and international standards bodies to build in their "requirements" to laws, networks and new communications systems. Their activities have never been reported to national Parliaments, the European Parliament or even the US Congress. Not until Telepolis revealed the ENFOPOL 98 affair has the secret ILETS organisation been exposed or challenged. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That
[CTRL] Tornados as Weather Weapon?
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Goat Sucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: alt.politics.british,alt.politics.europe.misc,alt.politics.usa.congress,alt. politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.yugoslavia,soc.culture.russia,alt.news-media Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 5:41 AM Subject: Re: T O R N A D O S Gnocci's Tornado wrote: It seems that the Kosovo crisis is taking an unexpected turn. There are indications that a meteorological weaponry that Russians call MTVR-1 is currently in use to create atmospherics disturbances over the U.S. It seems that the Pentagon is panicking, and Clinton is even talking about halting the air strike against Yugoslavia!? There was a web site about this weapon, I can't speak Russian but [what] I understood is that it does not need to be applied over the region one wants to attack and that [it] is not controllable. It is tornado season in the united states of medium tactical vehicle replacements (MTVR) http://www.house.gov/hasc/billsandreports/105thcongress/hr3616committeerepor t/title1.htm Secret Rulers Control America's Weather A weather modification Grid System has been set up by the Elite One World Government of an astonishingly advanced nature. The Grid System consists of three enormous underwater cables laid along the continental shelf of our East, West and Gulf Coasts (the latter from Florida to Texas.) Each cable is powered by an underground nuclear power plant and can be made positive or negative relative to Earth. The power plants act like a giant battery; one pole grounded to Earth and the other to the cables. The effect of these three grid cables along the coasts is to create electrical fields which span the continent of the United States. These power fields control electrical charges in the upper atmosphere producing jet-stream shifts. Experiments are conducted with the cable set at either a positive or a negative potential, and also alternating from positive to negative. What is going on now is weather warfare, and the era of weather strategy is underway. The Russians also have weather control, making use of their formidable cosmospheres (massive antigravity spacecrafts), which is more localized, but much of what has been happening more recently has been due to the secret government. These two factions are in competition for control of America's weather with the purpose of world domination. http://www.esotericworldnews.com/weather.htm -- HAARP, Weather War, And EMF Mind Control From James Shannon Author Uncertain Dec. 23, 1997 In May of 1988, I wrote an article for the Canadian Intelligence Service headed "Weather War?" The preamble written by the editor said this: "Her story, indeed, is 'stranger than fiction.' And it's only the beginning, the first glimpse of a new and uncertain factor in human affairs, opening up unimagined physical possibilities - but also threatening our very survival." Those words were indeed prophetic. Advanced technology based on the original works of Nikola Tesla is being developed at an alarming rate. This discoverer of alternating current power source and transmission system (among other accomplishments was a genius before his time. In spite of this, his name is unfamiliar to most because soon after his death in 1943 his data was removed from libraries and his only claim to fame now is the Tesla Coil. He hoped his discoveries would be used for peaceful, life-enhancing purposes.) While traveling in Alaska in the summer of 1994, we visited the Copper Valley area hoping to explore the old mines. A large intimidating sign blocked all access to this region. I didn't think too much of it at the time, however I later learned of a highly secret project being constructed there and was able to locate a book published in Alaska discussing the HAARP system, that being an acronym for High-frequency Active Auroral Research Project. The authors of "Angels Don't Play This HAARP" base their information on documents they were able to view which came out of secret meeting of the U.S. Government and the U.S. Military. HAARP is a ground-based "Star Wars" weapon which has the capability to manipulate the environment in such a way as to change weather patterns, disrupt global communications systems, disrupt human mental processes, negatively affect health, and impact the Earth's upper atmosphere in an unnatural and damaging way. By interfering with the Earth's magnetic field there is no assurance that damage on an irreversible global scale will not occur. All participants involved in designing HAARP are part of a giant partnership of government, the military and many private corporations which form defense intelligence contractual networks, and it is done in secret. Critics of the project believe that large groups of independent scientists should be
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Flaw in Capitalist system]
-Caveat Lector- nurev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- "M.A. Johnson" wrote: -Caveat Lector- MJ: I contract with you ... I pay you $20, you paint my front porch. THIS is capitalism. Where is the state you were requiring? Das GOAT wrote: First off, it's NOT capitalism. It's simply an economic exchange -- "barter," mediated by money, i.e., a transferable "right" to goods at value, "earned" by labor, traded for labor. Now, if you contracted with me to paint your front porch, it cost me $20 in labor and materials to do it, and you only paid me $10 --making MONEY "FOR NOTHING," but your PROFIT of $10 only paid for by MY loss-- THAT would be capitalism. MJ: No force here only your stupidity in contracting without concern for you benefit -- unless of course it was your intention for charity. Serious flaw here buddy. Even stupid people have the right not to be ripped off by sharpsters. Capitalism is the social system based upon private ownership of the means of production which entails a completely uncontrolled and unregulated economy where all property is privately owned. It's not a social system, but an economic system. It also happens to be an economic system that rots the social system it coexists with. This country is a good example of that. Post communist Russia is an even better example of that. Crime and corruption are the indicators of rot in a social system. Need I say more? But the separation of the state and the economy is not a primary, it is only an aspect of the premise that capitalism is based upon: individual rights. Capitalism is the only politico-economic system based on the doctrine of individual rights. This means that capitalism recognizes that each and every person is the owner of his own life, and has the right to live his life in any manner he chooses as long as he does not violate the rights of others. So then it is OK in your opinion to choose an economic system other than capitalism if enough of us use our individual rights to do so. Isn't that correct? And if that should happen, all you hard core rugged individualists would be free to leave this country and move to Russia where true Capitalism flourishes. Have a nice trip. Dress warmly, and don't forget your gun. Bon Voyage mon ami, Joshua2 I already warned you guys once. I guess I have to hand out towels for all the mental masturbators. Lookey there, you have gone and made a mess. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] A Modest Proposal
-Caveat Lector- Robert Tatman wrote: -Caveat Lector- At the risk of being massively flamed, I am compelled by a sense of what I can only call spiritual and emotional maturity to propose that the time has come to repeal the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. What is at issue is not some supposed innate right to keep and bear arms. What is at issue is the culture of violence that puts firearms on a pedestal and worships them. What is at issue is the culture of violence that insists on "getting even" instead of resolving conflicts. Two hundred years ago, it might have been possible to defend yourself against an oppressive government by shooting the excise agent. But that just isn't possible today--nor is it desirable. The world is too complex a place today, and the weapons at the government's disposal too powerful, for so simplistic a solution to work. You have no more right to keep and bear arms than you have to own and operate an automobile. All property "rights" are contingent on the permission of the state; the state grants such rights, and the state can take away those rights if circumstances warrant. I submit that the time has come when we, as a society, can no longer afford to permit individuals to own and use firearms. Further, I submit that firearms manufacturers are primarily responsible for the *illegal* sale of firearms, and should therefore be subjected to stringent governmental regulation and limited to production of firearms for the armed services of the United States. If the gun lobby insists on labeling this proposal as a conspiracy to undermine citizens' "rights," I will respond by suggesting that the gun lobby itself is part of an elaborate conspiracy to undermine the lawful authority of the United States government, substituting the rule of force for the rule of law. Surely, if a secret supranational organization such as the Illuminati really exists, whose objective is to submerge all national identities in a global culture, eliminating national governments in favor of a strengthened United Nations, then they would choose to work *not* through the Federal government...but through organizations and individuals who want to weaken the U.S. government to the point where it effectively no longer exists. Such a conspiracy would be much more likely to use a group like the NRA or the Libertarian Party than the FBI or the BATF as its instrument. Let me repeat my proposal: the time has come to repeal the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution. Doing so would demonstrate more clearly than any other possible action that the people of the United States have genuinely grown up, that we are now mature enough that we do not need the crutch of firearms to maintain our self-esteem. Bob Bravo! Where do I sign up. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990504b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Early volcano victims discovered - Whole populations may have been wiped out simultaneously. (BBC) An erupting volcano may have claimed the lives of human ancestors living about 18 million years ago in East Africa. A new study of deposits, in which fossils of the human forerunner Proconsul have been found, have shown that they lived in a semi-arid environment close to a volcano - Kisingiri - which was active at the time. Killed by a pyroclastic flow: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_334000/334476.stm @ Links: Volcano World: http://volcano.und.nodak.edu/ @ Natural History Museum: Human Evolution http://www.naturalpartners.org/VirtualTour/Tour/First/Human/index.html @ Information on pyroclastic flows http://jersey.uoregon.edu/~mstrick/AskGeoMan/geoQuerry33.html @ Images of pyroclastic flows http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Photo/PyroFlows/images.html @ Guided tour of early ancestors http://info.gla.ac.uk/Museum/guided/Hominid/Sect1/guid01.html : Are these remains real, or were they 'planted' by mischievous deities or devious extraterrestials? Do you want to be immortalized in lava deposits? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # TREPANATION - THE HOLE STORY. Drilling your skull: Is it the way to bliss or just extremely dangerous? (SALON) Feeling depressed? Lethargic? Shell- shocked by life's little bombardments? You could try meditation. Or yoga. Or color therapy. Or herbal remedies. Or, if you prefer drastic measures, you could drill a hole in your head. It's been around since the Stone Age - see http://www.salon1999.com/health/feature/1999/04/29/trepanation/index.html : What size drill do you use for relief? Whose head would you like to drill holes in? Would you be better off with a sieve skull? Or just a view port? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Was it the Devil's Work? Youths Say Exorcism Freed Them From Terror (ABC) NEW YORK - Something terrifying happened to two young people. Skeptics say their childhood ordeals might have been caused by mental illness, trauma, organic brain disorders or psychosomatic dysfunction. But they and their families, as well as clergymen and doctors, believe they survived demonic possession. http://more.abcnews.go.com/onair/2020/demons980422.html : Would you rather be possessed by demons, angels, aliens, CIA ops, weevils? Would you rather be treated with exorcism, trepanation, chemicals, implants? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SansComment: # Snake Charmer's Luck Runs Out. BANGKOK (Reuters) A Thai snake charmer died when a python he'd captured from a neighbor's home coiled itself around his neck and strangled him. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990504/08/odd-snake # British Inventor Eyes Linux. Sir Clive Sinclair single-handedly launched the UK's home PC market in the early 80's. Now, Britain's most famous high- tech inventor has a new project: a cheap, portable Linux machine, to cost less than half the price of a comparable Wintel box. Wait two years - see www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/technology/story/19462.html # Amway Spread Satan Rumors, PG Claims In Court. HOUSTON (Reuters) Along with soap and vitamins, those friendly Amway salesmen have been pushing something else for years false rumors that rival Procter Gamble Co. is in league with the devil, attorneys charged in opening arguments of a lawsuit. Devil made'em do it: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990504/08/odd-satan and http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/Reuters19990503_2369.html # Monk's Gold Donations Top One Ton. BANGKOK (Reuters) A Buddhist monk achieved his dream of collecting more than one tonne of gold to help cash-strapped Thailand. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990504/08/odd-gold _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: @ New Face On Mars?: http://users.flnet.com/%7Eksamurai/newface.html @ Making Star Trek Real: http://qedcorp.com/book/bigtest.html @ Remembering Waco - When is a sect a cult? What really happened? Why? http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/chat_990419waco.html @ End-Time Religious Cults - How many doomsday groups are in the US? http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/chat_990211abanes.html # Apocalypse Really Soon - Is it the End of the World as We Know It? http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/cults980105.html # SCENT OF A LOVER - the chemicals of attraction: http://www.salon.com/health/log/1999/05/04/pheromones/index.html @ UNSINKABLE, THE FULL STORY OF RMS TITANIC: http://www.stackpolebooks.com/unsinkable.htm # Peer Sexual Harassment Rampant in US Schools - parents striking back: http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/sexharassment_990430.html @ Clone wars: Who gets the money if Bill Gates decides to reproduce himself?
Re: [CTRL] A Modest Proposal
-Caveat Lector- It is that kind of thinking that leads to an oppressive government. We have created the world in which we live in. These tools we use to kill are of our own devising. Where will revocation stop? What will we take away next? Man will kill with whatever tools suit him, can you not see that? It is not an object that kills, it is the evil in us all. Let me remind you, it is against the our laws to kill one another. Even suicide is against the law. Yet how is it that it still occurs? It is a flaw in the human spirit that allows this to happen and any law we can think up will not stop it. It is something that flows much deeper. We will endure and inflict so much more suffering before we embrace the thing that separates us from insects and animals. There is a holocaust going on before our very eyes and there is not enough love in the world to fight it. Yes, there are those of us who would like a world without guns, hate and death. But that is not for this world, that is not for this time. Be just, be kind, and be devoted to righteousness. And with hope, you shall not fail in this. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Tatman Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 2:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] A Modest Proposal -Caveat Lector- At the risk of being massively flamed, I am compelled by a sense of what I can only call spiritual and emotional maturity to propose that the time has come to repeal the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. What is at issue is not some supposed innate right to keep and bear arms. What is at issue is the culture of violence that puts firearms on a pedestal and worships them. What is at issue is the culture of violence that insists on "getting even" instead of resolving conflicts. Two hundred years ago, it might have been possible to defend yourself against an oppressive government by shooting the excise agent. But that just isn't possible today--nor is it desirable. The world is too complex a place today, and the weapons at the government's disposal too powerful, for so simplistic a solution to work. You have no more right to keep and bear arms than you have to own and operate an automobile. All property "rights" are contingent on the permission of the state; the state grants such rights, and the state can take away those rights if circumstances warrant. I submit that the time has come when we, as a society, can no longer afford to permit individuals to own and use firearms. Further, I submit that firearms manufacturers are primarily responsible for the *illegal* sale of firearms, and should therefore be subjected to stringent governmental regulation and limited to production of firearms for the armed services of the United States. If the gun lobby insists on labeling this proposal as a conspiracy to undermine citizens' "rights," I will respond by suggesting that the gun lobby itself is part of an elaborate conspiracy to undermine the lawful authority of the United States government, substituting the rule of force for the rule of law. Surely, if a secret supranational organization such as the Illuminati really exists, whose objective is to submerge all national identities in a global culture, eliminating national governments in favor of a strengthened United Nations, then they would choose to work *not* through the Federal government...but through organizations and individuals who want to weaken the U.S. government to the point where it effectively no longer exists. Such a conspiracy would be much more likely to use a group like the NRA or the Libertarian Party than the FBI or the BATF as its instrument. Let me repeat my proposal: the time has come to repeal the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution. Doing so would demonstrate more clearly than any other possible action that the people of the United States have genuinely grown up, that we are now mature enough that we do not need the crutch of firearms to maintain our self-esteem. Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic
Re: [CTRL] CIA's Paramilitary Operations
-Caveat Lector- Do you know that Tony Poe lives in a very small village in California? I live in the same village. The whole family is OTL...seriously! JUDY GULSON - Original Message - From: David Crockett Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 2:46 PM Subject: [CTRL] CIA's Paramilitary Operations -Caveat Lector- From: Activist Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Activist Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CIA's Paramilitary Operations Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 3:31 PM Activist Mailing List - http://get.to/activist 4/29/99 CIA's Paramilitary Operations A recent reference to retired CIA paramilitary officer Tony Poe or Tony Poshepny below, raises the question of CIA paramilitary operations in general. As we read these accounts we should ask, can we really expect that PM officers will ever produce intelligence? Did we not run a PM war in Vietnam for years without ever understanding the other side? Did we not conduct a PM war in Afghanistan that led to the creation of "International Terrorism?" Did not all PM wars contribute to the international drug traffic? Did not the CIA's committment to paramilitary wars engage this country in many other destructive activities? In a speech in October 1998, by John Millis, Staff Director of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI), he dicussed the future of the CIA. Millis is a former CIA operations who became Staff Director of HPSCI in 1997. Mr. Millis said re CIA paramilitary operations: "We believe we have to keep a very strong paramilitary capability on the shelf for the Directorate of Operations. It's always hard to anticipate what the next crisis is going to be, but we can be sure that it will be there. And the paramilitary capability the DO has is uniquely well suited for many of the types of situations that we're seeing around the world." The reference item on Tony Poe said: "...his life helped to create the greatest cinema icon to come of the Vietnam war. This man...is the real Colonel Kurtz, whose fictional counterpart was played by Marlon Brando in Francis Ford Coppola's epic movie Apocalypse Now... The reality of the Kurtz legend is far stranger than fiction... [It] confirmed the existence of a US super-spy code-named Upin. Upin was a pararmilitary expertLike the fictional Kurtz, he recruited a private army of 10,000 tribesmen, married a princess turned his back on the US and became as savage as the jungle he made his home." ...Agent Upin, also known as Pat Gibbs, was Anthony Poshepny, one of the CIA's most notorious and effective agents deployed in the Vietnam war. Orders were to enter Laos illegally in 1961 and conduct a secret war against the communists that would be denied in Congress and hidden from the US public" Ralph McGehee http://come.to/CIABASE The below are brief extracts from CIABASE files on Tony Poe. Laos, Tony Poe ran the secret ground war in Laos and kept pickled heads. Poe was a Hungarian refugee who began his CIA career training Khamba tribesmen to fight the Chinese in Tibet. Poe said "we got the Dalai Lama out of Tibet." In Laos he rewarded his men for producing the ears of communists. Harper's 7/85 60 Laos 53-75 book by Roger Warner, Back Fire: the CIA's Secret War in Laos and its Link to the War in Vietnam, (1995). Discusses Vang Pao of the Hmong tribesmen. The Secret War gained momentum - with Bill Lair - an ideological cold warrior, using Thai paratroopers to train the Hmong. Lair had his hqs in Udorn, Thailand. Tony Poshepny, an ex-marine of Hungarian origin - who had worked with the CIA's ops with the Khamba in Tibet and in Sumatra, Indonesia was ultimately thrown out of op, a broken-down drunk. This is a wry, compassionate narrative. "from 63 to 73, Laos was a secret annex to Vietnam war, overseen by the ambassador, run by CIA, and bombed by the U.S. military, without the consent of Congress." Warner focuses on CIA's misbegotten strategy of the Hmong counterinsurgency. A horrific tale of blindsighted do-gooders, ambitions and bungled intentions. Bill Lair/CIA recruited 10,000 Hmong. Clothed, fed and armed by CIA and trained by Thais, they helicoptered to elaborate skirmishes against the Pathet Lao and the North Vietnamese. At peak strength of 30,000 they were the only effective Lao army. Vang Pao took his cut from the opium trade. He deserted to the U.S. in 75, six months before the Pathet Laos' triumph. The Nation 9/18/95 288-90 Laos, China, 67-68 Tony Poe sent T-28 planes to bomb in China. Corn, d. (1994). Blond Ghost: Ted Shackley and the CIA's Crusades 154-5 Laos, Vietnam, 63 In 8/63 Lair received an order to disrupt NVN truck traffic thru Laos by blowing up parts of route 7. From an Air America plane, Tony Poe dropped demolition charges. Thais supervised twelve platoons of elite Meo troops called Special Guerrilla Units as they blew up
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] A Modest Proposal]
-Caveat Lector- Scott Brown wrote: -Caveat Lector- Robert Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- At the risk of being massively flamed, I am compelled by a sense of intellectual honesty to propose that the time has come to repeal the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Personally, I feel it would be a waste of my time to devote the time and energy that is necessary to properly convey how your proposal dissgusts me. So what I will say is this, I hope that you remember your decision if we are deprived of our right to defend ourselves against tyranny. In the remaining part of this year, and the next 3 or 4, you will see the error of this ignorance. Scott Brown Disgusting or not you'll have to deal with it. Many of us are sick and tired of your mantra. We would like to get guns out of daily life and see what happens. If the death rate drops ( which it will ) then that's the way it will stay. No guns. It's going to happen. There is nothing you can do about it. And its about time. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: FCC chief calls for e-rate filtering; report says parents worried
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 4:21 PM Subject: FC: FCC chief calls for e-rate filtering; report says parents worried Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 19:11:01 -0400 From: "Christopher D. Hunter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Annenberg School for Communication, University of Pennsylvania To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: APPC Conference Declan, (for politech readers) The Annenberg Public Policy Center released the results of "The Internet and the Family: The View from Parents, The View from the Press" survey and content analysis of family attitudes towards the Internet. Results show that 78% of parents are "strongly" or "somewhat" concerned that their children might give away personal information on the Internet, and an equal percentage fear children might view sexually explicit material. The results are based on 1,102 interviews with parents of 8-17 year-olds with computers in the home. The survey has a margin of error of +/- 3%. The survey was conducted by Roper Starch Worldwide. The report also outlines a content analysis of newspaper coverage of the Internet which found that journalists cover net issues in a polarizing way, focusing only on the positive nature of the net, or solely on negative aspects. The full report can be found at http://www.appcpenn.org/internet/ . But the most interesting thing to come out of today's conference was a speech by FCC Chairman, William Kennard. Sparked by the outcry over Columbine, Kennard is now supporting the idea that schools and libraries receiving e-rate funding should be required to file an "acceptable use plan." Kennard also announced the "FCC Parents Information Web Page" at http://www.fcc.gov/parents_information/ , devoted to informing parents about media filtering options. Unfortunately, the site uncritically recommends several infamous net filters which have been shown to block far more than porn and bomb making sites. In a way, the FCC's page gives a government seal of approval to these products. This site clearly needs to balanced with a section regarding the problems with filtering software, such as EPIC's faulty filter report. Christopher D. Hunter Annenberg School for Communication University of Pennsylvania -- POLITECH -- the moderated mailing list of politics and technology To subscribe: send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with this text: subscribe politech More information is at http://www.well.com/~declan/politech/ -- DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] As The World Ends (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- AS THE WORLD ENDS = (CNNS, 05/04/99) -- No, it's not "As The World Turns" (a soap opera), it's "As The World Ends." America, surrendering its mind to elite opinion leaders, has passively accepted the erroneous idea that "Truth is relative." When Truth is surrendered to false relativity, God Himself becomes a "relative concept.""God is dead," proclaimed Nietzche. But the obvious fact is that God is not dead, but rather that Nietzche is dead. Sings an old (now dead) blues singer, "God... God don't ever change. God... Always will be God." If "God" turns you off, I understand. This editor suffered through years of Roman Catholic indoctrination in his childhood and subsequently went through a period of agnosticism. What gradually led him back toward the light was, of all things, books by the "notorious" Helena Petrovna Blavatsky. But even now, this editor laments that he can not accept the exclusive divinity of Jesus Christ. But yes, there is a God. And what God wants is summed up in the "Golden Rule": Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. (Not that I always achieve it, but that is the ideal.) So why the candor, from the normally circumspect Conspiracy Nation? It is that this editor now believes America has been given its chance to face the truth, that America chose to ignore the truth, and that now a terrible judgement is coming upon us. No, this editor does not automatically accept everything written in the Bible. But this editor believes that "God is not mocked." America is about to have its eyes opened. Civilians murdered by us in Yugoslavia. We scarcely blink our eyes. But then, as if it is divine retribution, the Columbine High massacre erupts and sends complacent Americans into paroxysms of shock. Then more innocents are killed by our bombs, and it's a yawn to most Americans. But subsequently a horrible tornadic devastation hits Oklahoma and Kansas. It's over. During the 1990s, America was given the choice to either face up to, or turn away from, the truth. The Bible (somewhere) says that in the final days "the Gospel" will be preached to all the world. Suppose that by "the Gospel" is meant "the truth." A dominant event of the 1990s has been the Internet, which now carries the truth to all the world. WE BLEW IT. We (collectively) were given our chance, and we got very "sophisticated," "intellectual," and "modern" as the means for closing our eyes. Now, it's over. "Billy, we blew it," says Captain America to his friend in the movie, "Easy Rider." Captain America and Billy had achieved material "success," but they had somehow lost the way. Shortly thereafter, they died. "Mars is the planet of war, and it went direct into Scorpio on Tues. January 26th, at 3:59 am. GMT. 0 degrees lat. and 0 longitude. It doesn't leave Scorpio until it goes retrograde on March 18th, at 8:40 am. GMT. Being the planet of war, it will increase armed conflicts..." [1] Mars, more aptly put, is the planet of violence, such as in Littleton, Colorado and now with incredible tornadoes in the Midwest. With Mars having gone retrograde, the violence now increases. "In the year 1999 and seven months, From the skies shall come an alarmingly powerful king, To raise again *le grand Roy d'Angolmois*, Before and after, Mars shall reign at will." [2] God is not mocked. If you don't know that, then okay. It's okay if you don't know that. --- Notes --- [1] "Portents Portend Peril To President?" CNNS, 01/29/99. [2] Nostradamus. Qtd. in "Nostradamus Sees Trouble Ahead." CNNS, 04/28/99. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe
Re: [CTRL] As The World Ends (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- I say, look to the stars, and not to the mud. Do not let the bastards beat you. The bible is a family tree; it shows primarily the mistakes made by the ancient kings - in the Garden of Eden, nobody knew right from wrong until they got hit on the head with an apple. If anything would destroy this country, it would be secrecy; a criminal always returns to his crime, and if any witnesses, carefully removes them \ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] M. A. Hoffman Replies to LUVOX Concerns
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Independent History Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 2:40 PM Subject: Re: Gunman on Luvox - Confirmed (fwd) [Michael A. Hoffman II's analysis follows this report] = From: Ian Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] * LITTLETON GUNMAN TESTS POSITIVE FOR MANIA-INDUCING DRUG * ABC's Colorado affiliate KCNC NEWS4 reports (5/4/99) [1]: "[T]he coroner has released further toxicology reports on Eric Harris, one of the two dead suspects. Specialized testing shows levels of Luvox in Harris' blood in a therapeutic range." While doctors interviewed by The Washington Post [2] and CNN [3] claim there's no link between Luvox and aggressive behavior, the medical literature gives a different picture. Luvox is the trade name for fluvoxamine, which research shows can induce mania. A study found in the "American Journal of Psychiatry" (9/91, page 1264) concludes: "Our observations confirm the efficacy of fluvoxamine [ Luvox ] in the treatment of depression but suggest that this drug can induce mania in some patients when it is given at normal doses." [4] One symptom of mania can be "aggressive behavior." [5] Luvox is a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI). About such drugs Dr. Jodi Worrel of the Western Missouri Mental Health Center states: "Child and adolescent data suggest worsening of aggression with SSRI treatment."[6] Psychiatric-drug expert Dr. Peter Breggin states [7]: "According to the manufacturer, Solvay, 4% of children and youth taking Luvox developed mania during short-term controlled clinical trials. Mania is a psychosis which can produce bizarre, grandiose, highly elaborated destructive plans..." A study published in the "Journal of Clinical Psychiatry" (July 1995, pages 288-96) states about another SSRI drug similar to Luvox: "Fluoxetine-treated patients reported an increased frequency of...anger or aggression." [8] A study by researchers at the Hadassah-Hebrew University School of Medicine in Jerusalem published in the "Annals of Pharmacotherapy" concluded the following about Luvox: "Our case series suggests that fluvoxamine may have the ability to induce or unmask manic behavior in depressed patients. Clinicians are alerted to monitor for this 'switching' effect..."[9] In that study, patients suffering Luvox-induced mania were not helped by the anti-mania drug lithium, indeed it seemed to make them worse. Only when the use of Luvox stopped did the patient's mania clear. Not only Luvox causes mania. In a letter published in the "American Journal of Psychiatry" (3/90, page 372), researcher Dr. Alan Lipschitz states: "I would like to draw your attention to a psychiatric aphorism that illuminates some mood disorder mechanisms: Every antidepressant that does not cure mania causes mania." [10] So it seems mania is linked to many antidepressants. Eric Harris, who was said to be the leader of the two dead gunman, had been taking a mania-inducing drug and displayed aggressive and unusual behavior indicative of mania prior to his deadly shooting rampage at Columbine High school, when, as tests prove, he was on that mania- inducing drug, Luvox. (relevant http://drugawareness.org) _ [1] KCNC NEWS4: Columbine Shooting (5/4/99, 12:41 AM ET) http://www.kcncnews4.com/prd1/now/now_template_utility. call_proper_frameset?p_story=146544p_who=kcncp_section=200 [2] The Washington Post: Shooter Used Often-Prescribed Drug: http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-04/30/ 016l-043099-idx.html [3] CNN: Columbine shooter was prescribed anti-depressant: http://cnn.com/HEALTH/9904/29/luvox.explainer/index.html [4] American Journal of Psychiatry: Mania and Fluvoxamine. C.Burrai, A.Bocchetta, M.Zompo, Sept.'91, (148)9, p.1263-4. [5] Bipolar Disorder (Manic-Depression) Explained: http://mentalhelp.net/articles/grohol/bipolar.htm [6] The Psyche: Chronic Treatment of Aggressive Behavior. By Jodi Worrel, Pharm.D., May 1998 Volume 3, Issue 5. http://www.med.umkc.edu/thepsyche/pastissu/may98/index.html [7] "Eric Harris was taking Luvox (a Prozac-like drug) at the time of the Littleton murders." By Peter R. Breggin, M.D., April 30, 1999: http://www.breggin.com/luvox.html [8] Journal Of Clinical Psychiatry: Postmarketing surveillance by patient self-monitoring: preliminary data for sertraline versus fluoxetine. Fisher, Kent, Bryant, 7/95, 56(7):288-96. [9] Annals Of Pharmacotherapy: Fluvoxamine-associated manic behavior: a case series. A. Dorevitch, Y. Frankel, A. Bar- Halperin, December 1993, Vol. 27 No. 12, pages 1455-7. [10] American Journal of Psychiatry:
Re: [CTRL] As The World Ends (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- As I was saying, before my dog jumped up on the couch and hit my keyboard...the future is yoursbut always remember, the bible was written in the universities, published in the universities, by the kings, of the kings, and for the kings...and in a way, you can see a bit of the tabloids if you want to go into their buried secrets. Our leaders are all playing different roles in the bible; just as Hitler did. Poor David Korish at Waco; poor Halle Bop; they were trying to tell us someting, because the bible is the master plan - only what happens and how, depends on who you elect to office of President. And who do you elect..well, me at this point one of the brave 17 who filed suit against Clinton; or the wrestler, who took on that bunchonly thing that worried me here is, we might all end up on World Wide Wrestling Brian, never give upyou have a great spirit and keep at the truth. It is a new age beginning...there is still a lot of land, and the next step will be to colonize the universe...would I love to be around for that. There are congressional elections coming up; we will have a new president, and then wowto Madilline and Reno just say "don't let that doorknob hit you on the way outgoodbye, and good riddance.."/ Then, let us all sue the hell out of all of them for their illegal conduct. You know the English never did beat the Irish; never will..never will. Colleen Vote Them All Out But The 17 and the Ones who said no more war DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] A Modest Proposal]
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: nurev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott Brown wrote: Robert Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the risk of being massively flamed, I am compelled by a sense of intellectual honesty to propose that the time has come to repeal the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Personally, I feel it would be a waste of my time to devote the time and energy that is necessary to properly convey how your proposal dissgusts me. So what I will say is this, I hope that you remember your decision if we are deprived of our right to defend ourselves against tyranny. In the remaining part of this year, and the next 3 or 4, you will see the error of this ignorance. Disgusting or not you'll have to deal with it. Many of us are sick and tired of your mantra. We would like to get guns out of daily life and see what happens. If the death rate drops ( which it will ) then that's the way it will stay. No guns. Rather than chant mantras from any side of the question, it may be useful to examine the basis and reality of the current situation. The 2nd Amendment reads: "A well regulated Militia, being neces- sary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." [Some [people quibble over the existence of certain commas in there.] What does it mean? [Note that the Founders purposely worded this Amendment so that we'd have something to argue over. The clever bastards...] As stated, the "right to bear arms" is about STATE security, not individual self-protection. Arguments about guns being necessary for self-protection are thus extra-constitutional. The necessity of a WELL-REGULATED militia is stated; arguments that gun control is unconstitutional are thus bogus. The Founders did not specify what they considered to be "arms", usable weapons. Did they mean personal firearms, military weapons, or any combative materials? So we get down to the crux: Are personal firearms or any other weaponry, now, today, necessary for State security? To evaluate that question, we need to ask other questions: Just what *are* the threats to State security? Are these threats defensible by a Militia armed with personal firearms or other weaponry? Who ya gonna fight, and with what? So, what are the real threats? Terrorists with explosives or NBC [Nuclear/Biological/Chemical] weapons; enemy states employing same, delivered by strategic or tactical means; crippling of the power, transport and/or information infrastructures via cyberwar; propa- ganda, disinformation, "memes"; armed invasion of the continental US [CONUS]; attack from outer space by advanced extraterrestrials. We might not be able to do much against ETs with ANY weaponry. An armed invasion of CONUS seems rather unlikely IMHO, although I'm sure many would disagree with me. That leaves terrorists, tactical/strategic NBC/X attacks, and infowar. Are any of these threats defensible with personal firearms? Really? Other arguments involve the use of personal firearms to ward off domestic tyranny. But if a tyrant controls the most powerful military force on Earth, will personal firearms matter? Really? Again, the 2nd Amendment makes no provision for fighting tyranny, so such arguments are also extra-constitutional. I don't have any good answers, just a lot more questions. Bother. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Gunman on Luvox - Confirmed
-Caveat Lector- Only when the use of Luvox stopped did the patient's mania clear. Exactly the opposite of what was said on ABC World News Tonight Mark Graffis / 1-340-772-9025 214 Little LaGrange Frederiksted, U.S. Virgin Islands 00840 Lloyd Sez: YES! Of course! An authorized prescription drug couldn't cause a problemonly the evil patient refusing the medicine! *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: http://a-albionic.com/search.html ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Video Finder, Free Catalogs, Links, Sweepstakes, What-Not: http://www.msen.com/~daugh/store.htm *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Electric/Electromagnetic
-Caveat Lector- Lamp turning off and on... Do you have one of those touch activated lamps? My friend has one and also one of those "mad-scientist" static electricity globes. I freaked a party out by holding the activated globe and merely pointing my finger at the touch lamp. With my finger 4 inches from the lamp, it repeatedly turned off and on. The electricity travels over the surface of your body and arcs to a better conductor, such as the metal lamp. -- Mark McHugh I feel the power! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] .....president had gotten aroused ..... [DRUDGE]
-Caveat Lector- Question! Now that I have your attention, my Question is: Who is the most responsible for the horrendous Refugee problem in the Balkans? Is it Slobo or the Rapist from Hope? Willey Says Clinton Made Advance By Pete Yost Associated Press Writer Tuesday, May 4, 1999; 9:09 p.m. EDT ALEXANDRIA, Va. (AP) -- Kathleen Willey testified in court Tuesday that she confided to her friend, Julie Hiatt Steele, about President Clinton's ``very forceful'' sexual advance in the White House. But in a new disclosure, Mrs. Willey said she was so upset by the events of that day in 1993, the same day her husband committed suicide, that Ms. Steele had to remind her later of their conversation on the alleged sexual advance by the president. It's a crucial point in the obstruction trial of Ms. Steele, who is charged with lying to Kenneth Starr's investigators when she denied that Mrs. Willey had told her about the incident hours after it allegedly happened. Ms. Steele says Mrs. Willey first told her about the experience with Clinton in 1997, asking her to lie about it to a Newsweek reporter. Earlier Tuesday, a friend who worked with her in the White House social office testified that Mrs. Willey confided Clinton's alleged sexual advance to her shortly after it happened. In a barely audible voice, Ruthie Eisen said that, according to Mrs. Willey's account, the president ``kissed her and hugged her'' and ``touched her chest.'' ``She said that the president had gotten aroused and said he had wanted to do that for a long time or wanted to do that since he saw her,'' Ms. Eisen said. Ms. Eisen said Mrs. Willey told her she was ``caught offguard'' by the president's advance. Ms. Eisen said she assumed Mrs. Willey revealed the incident in confidence. Ms. Eisen said she didn't tell anyone about it until she was questioned by Starr's investigators. Asked if Mrs. Willey ever asked her to lie or fabricate anything, Ms. Eisen replied, ``absolutely not.'' Linda Tripp is the only other White House staffer to have said that Mrs. Willey confided the alleged incident. In her testimony on the trial's second day, Mrs. Willey said she relayed the account of the advance after coming to Ms. Steele's house outside Richmond, Va. Immediately before visiting Ms. Steele, Mrs. Willey said she had been frantically looking for her husband, whose body was found the next day. ``I recall being there (at the house) because Julie told me I was there,'' Mrs. Willey testified. ``She reminded me that I was there, that I had told her briefly what happened with the president.'' Clinton has denied under oath making any such advance on Mrs. Willey. Jim Kennedy, spokesman for the White House counsel's office, said there would be no comment Tuesday on Willey's accusations. Taking the witness stand on the trial's second day, Mrs. Willey recounted her meeting with the president in the Oval Office. A White House volunteer, she had come to ask Clinton for a paying job to help relieve her family's financial problems. ``I told him we were having a crisis,'' Mrs. Willey said, and that she was desperate for a job. As they talked, he led her to a small galley kitchen adjacent to the Oval Office, she said. She said Clinton ``hugged me and told me he was very sorry.'' Then Clinton began to kiss her. ``He was very forceful. His hands were all over me,'' Mrs. Willey testified. She said he touched her breasts and put his hands up her dress. ``I told him I needed to get out of there,'' she testified. Did she try to resist? a prosecutor asked. ``Yes,'' she said. In the aftermath of her husband's suicide, Ms. Steele took her to the hospital because she was so emotionally upset, Mrs. Willey testified. © Copyright 1999 The Associated Press http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WAPO/19990504/V000758-050499-idx.htm l -- "An unarmed people are slaves, or subject to slavery at any time." --- Malcolm X "No blood for blow jobs" --a placard "FREE SPEECH! Use it, or lose it!" --- Ken Hamblin === "Anyone who defends Clinton might as well hold down a woman while he rapes her." --- Cheryl Enyart Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary o
Re: [CTRL] Electric/Electromagnetic
-Caveat Lector- This is one of those little halogen lites, that looks like the movie camera lites, or what everyou turn it on and off... It occurred to me - now nothing like that ever happened to any;thing elsethat it had something to do with the satellite dishremember the bombing or whatever in Yugoslaviasomething different Now, it has something to do with the satellite dish and box; you cannot pick uyp local stations, so they put up this big inside attenna alsobut when the one atenna touched this little black enameled lite, or the pole of it, you see this big spark which is solid and the lite goes on. This is something like I hae never seenand, if it can turn the lite onwell, it can turn them off - rite - just with a touch. Will find out more but you have seen them...like the lites movies used, long black stems with one litethey bend up and down. It is something to do with satellite hookup, and I tell you it scared me. I do not like it. Will find out more.you are very kind to respond to thisI am thinking that the satellite dish and something like this is or could be a real weapon or something. Once I almost knocked an attorney flat with a volt; it was snowing; and all the coffee cupts (about 10_ came up to my handsI put one on the desk, and holding my hand 4 inches to 10 inches above it, got it to spin...static electricity. Did not bother anybody else, but that had nothing to do with this. Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] TOP TEN MEDIA EVENTS OF CENTURY
-Caveat Lector- "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --- Thomas Jefferson x x x x x X DRUDGE REPORT X TUESDAY, MAY 05, 1999 23:22:08 UTC X WIRE: DRUDGE REPORT MAKES TOP TEN MEDIA EVENTS OF CENTURY The AGENCE FRANCE PRESSE on Tuesday unveiled its list of the "top ten media events of the century". And along with Ted Turner, Ed Murrow, and Guglielmo Marconi -- there's Drudge? The AFP was founded in 1835 as the world's first wire service. With some 1,150 reporters and photographers covering 165 countries, AFP is one of the top three suppliers of international news, with the ASSOCIATED PRESS and REUTERS. TOP DATES IN MEDIA THIS CENTURY: *December, 1901: Guglielmo Marconi sends the first radio waves across the Atlantic, paving the way for worldwide broadcasting. *November, 1920: First commercial broadcast program airs. *1926: John Logie Baird invents television. *1936: The BBC kicks off public television in Britain. *November 18, 1951: Ed R. Murrow "See it Now" series launches nationwide television programming in the United States. *Late 1960's: A US defense department project to link computers lays the foundation for the Internet. *1980: Ted Turner launches CNN, world's first all-news network. *August 1, 1981: The all-music channel MTV goes on the air. *1992: The browser Mosaic brings the Internet to non-technical computer users. *January, 1998: Matt Drudge airs Monicagate on the internet. About that January report, the AFP writes: "The media had turned full circle, feeding public prurience in the way that penny-press forebears had done at the start of the century." The content of the media has changed little over the years, says the wire in its century-ender on media. "The route from the penny press to the World Wide Web began with the invention of technologies that we now take for granted: the telephone, the telegraph, the radio and the television. The emergence of mass media was already apparent in the West by 1914, but in the interwar years, as the world lurched from one political crisis to another, their growth was explosive. This was the heyday of popular radio and the rotogravure illustrated press. "Radio transformed the life of the poor, especially housebound poor women, banishing solitude as it brought the world into their home... The spread of literacy meant that newspaper readership also expanded rapidly, so that by 1950, in the average developed country, between 300 and 350 papers were sold for every thousand of the population... "In 1990, British researcher Tim Berners-Lee -- who has been compared to the inventor of the printing press -- created the World Wide Web, writing a public-access program to help the general public navigate the labyrinth. Two years later, with the release of Mosaic, the first commercial browser, roaming the Internet became -- literally -- child's play... The rest is history, and a godsend for the Matt Drudges of the world." Leave it to the French! http://www.drudgereport.com/matt.htm == NEVER FORGET "Waco": Between the days of February 28, 1993 and April 19th, 1993, approximately 80 men, women, and children living peacefully in their home near Waco, Texas, were [gassed] killed by the combined efforts of the US Defense Department and other government paramilitary units: the US Treasury Department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF), and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). The incident also claimed the lives of four ATF agents Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum http://www.monumental.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/ Elizabeth Taylor continued, blasting the NATO operation: "I think everyone should tend to their own wars!" Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send
Re: [CTRL] .....president had gotten aroused ..... [DRUDGE]
-Caveat Lector- Who is responsible for the refugees? I think it is a combined effortthat it was all planned well in advance.now they not only get our money to rebuild, but Clinton will get a kickback, and we will pay for it. NATO.they are not exactly King Arthur's Court are they.Slobbo I and Slobbo II.the reason I say this, is because if they really wanted to get Slobbo I, they would have blown his castle to smitherinesthey would not have permitted three soldiers to be captive.and further, the Black Hand is just another Mafia, is it not. Slobo I is in bed with Clinton too, and I imagine Albright has told them to move over for her.. The Spear of Destiny? Its a wonder these people aren't hit by one of Tesla's artificial lightning bolts, compliments of the KGBbut then, remember tooSerbia is Russia's little brother So, we got two Slobs.neither one has really suffered much, have theylets see how Slobbo I and Slobbo II get out of this oneand I still Madeline Albright and now the Generl Clark, are trying to destroy their past.they should be proud to be Jewishor what is it with them. I like the Wrestler for President; or one of the 17 who sued Clinton.and remember this, I think Albright just recently was naturalized.that she never was before. Byegood nightit is I, Alice in Wonderland signing off for a time. on my way to OZ, if I can get through the poppy field without getting high. Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: Urgent: Tell Gov. Bush of Texas to Stop Supporting Gun Control
-Caveat Lector- To all Defenders of the Second Amendment, do your Duty and spread far and wide. "Prohibition... goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control mans' appetite through legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not even crimes... A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our Government was founded." --- Abraham Lincoln (December 1840) "Nobody's Life, Liberty or Property is Safe While Congress is in Session!" --- Capitol Hill Blue http://www.capitolhillblue.com/index.htm Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! -Original Message- From: Gun Owners of America [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 10:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Urgent: Tell Gov. Bush of Texas to Stop Supporting Gun Control Multi-state Alert: Tell Gov. Bush of Texas to Stop Supporting Gun Control Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151 Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408 http://www.gunowners.org Dear Pro-Gun Activist, Your immediate grassroots action is required to help us stop Gov. George W. Bush and the high-powered lobbyists from Handgun Control in a scheme to take away yet more of the rights of law-abiding gun owners. Recently, Governor Bush pushed an anti-gun bill sponsored by liberal Texas Rep. Debra Danburg (D-Houston). Rep. Danburg introduced House Bill 1199 to require anyone at a gun show, even those who want to sell a single gun from his or her private collection, to undertake intrusive, big-government background checks. Such a computer system allows the government to spy on and track gun owners. Even though pro-gun legislators killed HB 1199 in committee, insiders are concerned Gov. Bush may make a back-room deal to revive HB 1199 in the closing days of the legislature. And in an article in the Dallas Morning News on April 28, 1999 Bush went even further stating, "I think the federal government needs to expand its background checks so that they become effective." That's why I'm asking you to contact Gov. Bush right away. Since Gov. Bush is campaigning for President, it is important that he hear from ALL Americans on this issue. Please contact his office and let him know more gun control is not acceptable in Texas... or anywhere else in America. In contrast to Governor Bush, you and I know America does NOT need more gun control legislation at any government level. The murderers in Colorado violated nearly two dozen gun control laws. The implementation of Gov. Bush's ideas will mean a further loss of our Constitutional rights to gun ownership. If Gov. Bush and Handgun Control's gun-grabbing proposals are not stopped now, we will see an avalanche of new gun-grabbing legislation. Tell Governor Bush: 1. You strongly disapprove of his pushing gun control bills like HB 1199. 2. You strongly disapprove of his recent comments and actions calling for more gun control. 3. You are strongly opposed to more federal intervention in the form of huge computer data bases that snoop into the lives of private, law-abiding citizens. This is what the Nazis did and it has no place in America. Further, please urge your pro-gun friends and neighbors to contact Gov. Bush. If enough pressure is applied, Gov. Bush may back off further actions that restrict our rights. Also, the Governor's staff will be very sensitive to the concerns of citizens in early presidential primary / caucus states: Alaska, California, Arizona, Delaware, Iowa, New Hampshire, Louisiana, South Carolina, and Georgia. Gun owners and activists must make their positions known to Governor Bush immediately. Don't stand for any excuses. Further, please take the extra step in calling not one, but ALL three numbers of the following numbers: Gov. Bush's main Capitol office: (512) 463-2000 Gov. Bush's legislative office: (512) 463-1830 Gov. Bush's Presidential campaign office: (512) 637-2000 IF ANY OF THE ABOVE NUMBERS ARE BUSY, PLEASE KEEP CALLING; IT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINION ON THIS MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE. Your action will have a huge impact, but you and your friends and neighbors must act immediately. Sincerely, Larry Pratt Executive Director Gun Owners of America, Inc. P.S. Governor George W. Bush of Texas recently pushed an anti-gun bill (HB 1199) in the Texas Legislature. Though the bill is currently stuck in committee, insiders say Gov. Bush may try to revive it at the last minute. And now Bush is calling for more federal gun control legislation and the expansion of the Brady law. Please contact Bush's office immediately and tell him to stop trying to restrict our gun rights. As Bush is now running for President, he needs to hear from gun owners all across
Re: [CTRL] Children attacked by flesh-eating bacteria after taking med
-Caveat Lector- On 3 May 99, , Hilary wrote: -Caveat Lector- http://www.suntimes.co.za:80/1999/05/02/news/news07.htm - 02 May 1999 Children attacked by flesh-eating bacteria after taking medicine ANDRE JURGENS CHILDREN with chickenpox who are fed over-the-counter painkillers run the risk of being infected by a deadly flesh-eating bacterium. How could taking ibuprofen possibly "cause" this infection What relation could there possibly be between a bacteria and a "pain killer"? sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Colorado Massacre No Surprise
-Caveat Lector- Saw the documentary on Berkeley in the 60s the other night. The young people in that documentary were so vital, so committed to their ideas. Is there any vital political organization on campuses today--or has religion and Jesus become the answer to everything. No wonder to me that there will be more and more random outbreaks of vicious random violence if young people are pushed toward more and more conformity, and more and more "religion," away from thinking through their ideas, organizing and planning strategies that might actually be effective in working against ideologies they reject and for ideologies and notions of change they can positively commit to. The saddest thing is that we can't figure out--beyond a sense of personal embarassment and humiliation--what these two young men were striking out at. That, apart from some byzantine mind control op directed toward gun controland perhaps toward making the whole population more wary of its young adults and their potential for violence and thus putting all young people under tighter "controlor perhaps to frighten young people themselves as to the "consequences" of "activism"--it appears that they did what they did merely to prove their "superiority" over those who "embarassed" them. Too weird. Too useless and futile. In point of fact, young people today seem pretty quiet and "tame' compared to the young people of earlier generatiions. sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] A Modest Proposal]
-Caveat Lector- Ric Carter wrote: -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: nurev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott Brown wrote: Robert Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the risk of being massively flamed, I am compelled by a sense of intellectual honesty to propose that the time has come to repeal the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Personally, I feel it would be a waste of my time to devote the time and energy that is necessary to properly convey how your proposal dissgusts me. So what I will say is this, I hope that you remember your decision if we are deprived of our right to defend ourselves against tyranny. In the remaining part of this year, and the next 3 or 4, you will see the error of this ignorance. You may be interested to know that the 2nd amendment confers no rights on the citizens of the United States. Neither does the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th 6th, 7th, 8th, ect. When you read any of those mentioned, please realize that they are not referring to the citizens. Those amendments specifically refer to the government. They forbid government from passing laws infringing those rights. To repeal the 2nd simple means that the pre-existing right to keep and bear arms still exist. All you're removing is the ability of the government to pass laws infringing those rights. The rights still predate the constitution but you know how the government has such a problem playing by the rules. By the way, which one of the next bill of right amendments are you willing to drop? Free Speech? Freedom of Religion? Do you realize that all of the bill of rights is resting on the 2nd? No, you say? Name one other country that had it's weapons removed from the citizens that survived as a Republic, or even a Democracy. Jim Norman DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Electric/Electromagnetic
-Caveat Lector- Mark McHugh wrote: -Caveat Lector- Do you know how a fluorescent light bulb works, Colleen? An electric current is passed from one end of the tube to the other. Nope, the current is passed through a heater element on each end of the tube. The heater element excites the gas in the tube. The excited gas is what gives off light. Jim The some of the eletrons' energy is absorbed by the gas enclosed inside the tube and reradiated by the gas atoms in a visible wavelength. Nope, again. It's a little more complicated than that. Energy is coming off your antennae, I thought this was a reception antennae. Antennae that receive do not create any RF energy by its self. They must be connected to a RF transmitter. You may hold a fluorescent light next to the antennae of a RF transmitter and when that transmitter is keyed, you will see the fluorescent light glow. exciting the halogen and producing the familiar glow. halogen requires more heat than a fluorescent light to cause light emission. I have never experimented with Halogen, but I'll bet it would require RF energy as well to cause it to give off light. Jim It's all an energy game. Some you can see, some you can't. -- Mark McHugh One Step Beyond! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Electric/Electromagnetic
-Caveat Lector- Well, you haven't lost me yet. This lite is a darling little lite; long black pole with the little halogen lite on end, and it bends, etc. A minature replica like the ones you see on movie sets. I have a bedroom lamp you touch, and it lights; also some noise sets it off. But this has a switch . Now when the antenna touches the pole, this white electricity circle like, but then the bulb comes on.. There is Prime Star Box, and they hooked up the antenna to see local shows. I was told not enough charge to hurt anybody, but I do not believe that. But, it does turn the lite on and when you touch it it turns on, and when you take away, it goes off. Must add, occasionally cable companies will shoot through power surges to break cable boxes which are illegal, etc., and pick up free tv.one night, before the big fight or something really big, Warner cable went out and people hollared and screamedI think they pulled the power surge bit, and it back fired. What I guess I meant to say on the other, if tht one little box can lite a bult all by itself just by touching the metal lamp with the antennathis means the antenna is really chargaed up and it would have to be because of the satellite.and in turn, could a satellite - magnified of course, turn off and on lightsremember when we had unexplained power outagesand once, of course, we had this horrible blizzard hear, and really Artic clippers, etc., and well suddenly a big Russian Satellite was downed, and weather normalized. I only know when something is wrong; lightning and thunder and snow, all in one night with the temperature going up at nite and not down..roses standing in a foot of snow, and wild geese flying over my house lostand one parked in my back yard with little baby geese.well, they not only mess with the jet streams, but even Plato knew about these Nino and Nina currents, which re like the jet streamsonly in the ocean, wher the turles travel, and the lemings disappear.and of course this is probably all the hokey pokey with the Bermuda Triangle. So..Satellites have heat intensifiers, just like magnifying glasss, and can burn out an areaI think these people are insaneI think I would prefer Sadaam Hussein, to Clinton.at least, he is a real man... He does not hide behind a woman's skirts and I still think he should put Albright to work in his kitchen scrubbing floors. Colleen And that's the way it is, tonight - thanks for the info. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] In Memorium
-Caveat Lector- To all of you it is with profound sadness that I tell you of the death of someone who has been with us on CTRL for a long time. Her screen name was SWhite9194, and she had an alternate identity that she posted under; DRErebus (I helped her pick out that name). She was one of the most lovely and sweetest persons that I have ever had the pleasure of knowing. I loved her dearly and will never be the same after the loss. She suffered through most of her short life with many illnesses and was on numerous medications. She still had so much love and life to share with people and a great concern and heart for others even in the midst of it. She helped me so many times and in so many ways that I could never, ever hope to count them all. She loved life and was determined to live the best way that she could through all of the worst that life offered her. She battled constantly against the sicknesses she had and against the cruelty of people that she had in her life and around her. I am one of the luckiest people in the world to have had her as a close friend and to have known her for the short time that I did. I want everyone here to think a kind thought for her and wish her peace wherever she has gone, according to your own beliefs. She was a Christian and had a deep faith in God, and even though I don't follow Christianity she understood and accepted me and my beliefs for which I was ever grateful. Much like everyone I have had to deal with setbacks and disappointments. I have had to deal with hurtful words from others and the unkind thoughts of many. She accepted me for who I was and did so with everyone in her life. She lived a short life, only just recently turning 28 years old, and it was filled with misery and woe, many times I wished that I could take away some of her pain and suffering to give her some joy and rest. The rigors of this life denied me that opportunity, as something always came between our being together. She went through hell on earth and it is my fervent hope that she has achieved that which she sought in this life, peace and rest, in a heaven that would always make her laugh and smile and be forever happy. Nothing could be better for her. One thing is for sure she will never suffer again from the illnesses that plagued her, she will never endure the hurt and pain of the evil people that surrounded her and she will never again have to cry herself to sleep at night or pray for peace. She has rest in some place and I am thankful for that if nothing else. Her name was Sharon White and she was a most wonderful and sweet person. Please remember her and shed a tear for a tortured souls passing and take a moment to wish her soul to find the peace and rest she so deserved. I loved her and you would have too if you had known her. Ted DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Howard: Flaw in Capitalist system]
-Caveat Lector- Howard: Long before governments and law existed men and women gathered or killed food to eat. Was this food not their property? They created tools which made their efforts more efficient. Were these tools not the property of their creators? Later they planted and cared for certain plants which they found they preferred over others. Were these not then their property? Sorry for butting in, but I'm a little fuzzy on this property issue. Of what claim to "property" has anyone when there exists a greater power who can take same away by force? Is not the house which you bought and paid for--and aptly consider your property--at the whim of several state and federal agencies who may, at their discretion, take this property from you? Of what real value, then, is the phrase "personal property"? Logic would suggest that, unless you can protect property from all comers who would take it, its value as being yours is moot. The same would hold true of a theistic argument along the same lines; hence, all property belongs to God (for believers at least). Just curious, Edward ~~ "From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's revolutionary force." Edward Britton http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Reality Pump: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 ~~ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Teo: In Memorium
-Caveat Lector- Teo: Please accept my most sincere regret concerning your/our loss. I, too, have lost a close friend whom I met on the Internet. As for your friend, may she delight in the loving light of her God. Edward To all of you it is with profound sadness that I tell you of the death of someone who has been with us on CTRL for a long time. Her screen name was SWhite9194, and she had an alternate identity that she posted under; DRErebus (I helped her pick out that name). She was one of the most lovely and sweetest persons that I have ever had the pleasure of knowing. I loved her dearly and will never be the same after the loss. She suffered through most of her short life with many illnesses and was on numerous medications. She still had so much love and life to share with people and a great concern and heart for others even in the midst of it. She helped me so many times and in so many ways that I could never, ever hope to count them all. She loved life and was determined to live the best way that she could through all of the worst that life offered her. She battled constantly against the sicknesses she had and against the cruelty of people that she had in her life and around her. I am one of the luckiest people in the world to have had her as a close friend and to have known her for the short time that I did. I want everyone here to think a kind thought for her and wish her peace wherever she has gone, according to your own beliefs. She was a Christian and had a deep faith in God, and even though I don't follow Christianity she understood and accepted me and my beliefs for which I was ever grateful. Much like everyone I have had to deal with setbacks and disappointments. I have had to deal with hurtful words from others and the unkind thoughts of many. She accepted me for who I was and did so with everyone in her life. She lived a short life, only just recently turning 28 years old, and it was filled with misery and woe, many times I wished that I could take away some of her pain and suffering to give her some joy and rest. The rigors of this life denied me that opportunity, as something always came between our being together. She went through hell on earth and it is my fervent hope that she has achieved that which she sought in this life, peace and rest, in a heaven that would always make her laugh and smile and be forever happy. Nothing could be better for her. One thing is for sure she will never suffer again from the illnesses that plagued her, she will never endure the hurt and pain of the evil people that surrounded her and she will never again have to cry herself to sleep at night or pray for peace. She has rest in some place and I am thankful for that if nothing else. Her name was Sharon White and she was a most wonderful and sweet person. Please remember her and shed a tear for a tortured souls passing and take a moment to wish her soul to find the peace and rest she so deserved. I loved her and you would have too if you had known her. Ted DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ~~ "From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's revolutionary force." Edward Britton http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Reality Pump: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 ~~ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what
Re: [CTRL] Colorado Massacre No Surprise
-Caveat Lector- Thre is something I have noticed re some of the school incidentsthis religious elementsome of this religion is a little over done, especially in public schools. In Colorado, I think there are a lot of sick kids down there - and not just two who are alleged to have killed themselves.they had to have some help killing themselves, just like Jonestown and Halle Bopp.what makes a David Koreish at Wacoif he tossed away the bible, and spoke of the government master plan for genocide, maybe people would have listened. Why did Hillary Clinton, ridicule the Halle Bopp peoplehad they tossed out the religion and spoke the truth rather speaking in parables, people would have understood, that the government was planning genocidejust as did Hitler. There is the biggest coverup going on in Colorado nownobody will ever convince me that Eric was all too blame, and that the the Jewish partner in crime, loved Adolph Hitler There has been some experiments going in Colorado that not only are criminal if exposed, but inhumane to say the least. There is something terribly wrong in tht school in Columbinesome of these kids looked strange and did not match up to a happy environment...in fact the one little girl that was murdered - seemed almost suicidal before.too much fluoride in the water...what about a school in Ohio where kids are getting cancer of the blood without reason, buried over some old government waste they say now Colorado was right on scheduleand do not forget little JonBenet Ramseythe father was in computers. I still remember the ond kid "Nobody liked them.they were scum" And you are telling me that some of these kids were good Christians? colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: DRUDGE-REPORT 5/04/99
-Caveat Lector- X DRUDGE REPORT X TUESDAY, MAY 04, 1999 23:22:08 UTC X WIRE: DRUDGE REPORT MAKES TOP TEN MEDIA EVENTS OF CENTURY The AGENCE FRANCE PRESSE on Tuesday unveiled its list of the "top ten media events of the century". And along with Ted Turner, Ed Murrow, and Guglielmo Marconi -- there's Drudge? The AFP was founded in 1835 as the world's first wire service. With some 1,150 reporters and photographers covering 165 countries, AFP is one of the top three suppliers of international news, chasing stories with the ASSOCIATED PRESS and REUTERS. TOP DATES IN MEDIA THIS CENTURY, BY AFP: *December, 1901: Guglielmo Marconi sends the first radio waves across the Atlantic, paving the way for worldwide broadcasting. *November, 1920: First commercial broadcast program airs. *1926: John Logie Baird invents television. *1936: The BBC kicks off public television in Britain. *November, 1951: Ed R. Murrow "See it Now" series launches nationwide television programming in the United States. *Late 1960's: A US defense department project to link computers lays the foundation for the internet. *1980: Ted Turner launches CNN, world's first all-news network. *August, 1981: The all-music channel MTV goes on the air. *1992: The browser Mosaic brings the internet to non-technical computer users. *January, 1998: Matt Drudge airs Monicagate on the internet. About that January report, the AFP writes: "The media had turned full circle, feeding public prurience in the way that penny-press forebears had done at the start of the century." The content of the media has changed little over the years, says the wire in its century-ender on media. "The route from the penny press to the World Wide Web began with the invention of technologies that we now take for granted: the telephone, the telegraph, the radio and the television. The emergence of mass media was already apparent in the West by 1914, but in the interwar years, as the world lurched from one political crisis to another, their growth was explosive. This was the heyday of popular radio and the rotogravure illustrated press. "Radio transformed the life of the poor, especially housebound poor women, banishing solitude as it brought the world into their home... The spread of literacy meant that newspaper readership also expanded rapidly, so that by 1950, in the average developed country, between 300 and 350 papers were sold for every thousand of the population... "In 1990, British researcher Tim Berners-Lee -- who has been compared to the inventor of the printing press -- created the World Wide Web, writing a public-access program to help the general public navigate the labyrinth. Two years later, with the release of Mosaic, the first commercial browser, roaming the internet became -- literally -- child's play... The rest is history, and a godsend for the Matt Drudges of the world." X X X X X NEW STAR WARS THEME COMPOSED ON THE TOILET Holy Planet Tatooine! Film composer JOHN WILLIAMS wrote portions of the soundtrack for the new STAR WARS prequel EPISODE I: THE PHANTOM MENACE on the toilet, according to wire reports out of England. The celebrated music man is quoted on the WENN wire late Tuesday night: "I remember writing ANAKIN'S THEME. I was sitting on the toilet, watching GENERAL HOSPITAL, when all of a sudden the water plopped and brought together a syncopated harmony that I found to be perfect for the theme of the boy who will one day become DARTH VADER." X X X X X CHINA'S NUKE LAB NOW OPEN TO TOURISTS Mianyang City in Southwest China's Sichuan Province has opened a nuclear weapon research institute to visitors in an effort to boost tourism. It is the first tourism scheme of its kind in China. Mianyang is the second-largest city in Sichuan Province and one of the most important strategic weapons research centers in the country. Tourists and visitors are now able to learn about the development of China's sophisticated weapon systems in the China Engineering Physics Institute. ...now that there isn't a need to visit Los Alamos anymore. X X X X X FIGHT 2000: GORE HIRES SMEAR QUEEN; TOP BUSH ADVISER STUDIED ATWATER **Exclusive** "We're praying that it's going to be George Bush, just praying!" Those are the surprising words spoken by a campaign staffer for GORE 2000 in Washington. The Vice President of the United States of America may be trailing the governor from Texas in the polls -- a new CNN/USA TODAY phoner, 56% of all respondents picked Bush, 40% went Gore -- but the real race has not yet begun. The dirt race! During recent conversations with multiple sources close to Gore and Bush, one theme emerges: Campaign 2000 will soon turn into a vicious war of words, filled with personal charges and counter charges. "Drudge, it's going to get dirty really, real fast," says one Gore aide currently employed at the White
[CTRL] Fw: AANEWS for Tuesday, May 4, 1999
-Caveat Lector- from: AMERICAN ATHEISTS subject: AANEWS for May 4, 1999 A M E R I C A N A T H E I S T S AANEWS #567 ~~ 5/4/99 http://www.atheists.org ftp.atheists.org/pub/atheists/ http://www.americanatheist.org - A Service of AMERICAN ATHEISTS "For Reason and the First Amendment" -- In This Issue... * Atlanta conference calls for "exodus" to Christian schools * Atheists to challenge National Day of Prayer * Kosovo; more on religious roots of the Balkan crisis * TheistWatch: Tornado Alley to Noah's Ark * Resources * About this list... "EDU4UM ATLANTA" CALLS FOR CHRISTIAN EXODUS FROM PUBLIC SCHOOLS For some, it is the violence typified by last month's tragic shootings in a high school in Littleton, Colorado. Others see it as a deep malaise permeating American society ever since "the Supreme Court and Madalyn O'Hair" supposedly threw god out of the nation's classrooms over thirty-five years ago. But all those attending last Saturday's "Edu4um Atlanta" in Sandy Springs, Ga. agreed on one thing -- Christians need to pull their kids out of the public school system. The gathering at Mount Vernon Presbyterian Schools was to hear sixteen speakers in a series of panel discussions, taking up the question of how Christians should respond to the secularism and godlessness of public education. The tone was set by the head of one of the forum's sponsors, Dr. Christina Jeffrey of Operation Integrity, who discussed "Public Schools Are Worse Than You Think, Especially In The Suburbs." According to a handout from the conference, Jeffrey would "expand on the insight of inner-city pastor E.V. Hill of Los Angeles, 'If you teach children that they're animals, why are you surprised when they behave like animals?'" Other speakers for the event included Marc Stoud, Headmaster of Dominion Christian High School in Marietta, Georgia. He declared, "Christian parents are allowing their children to be spiritually robbed, spiritually molested, and spiritually gunned down in state-funded schools by the proponents of Secular Humanism." Stoud added, "The Columbine Public High School tragedy is the fruit of a world view that declares man, not God, is the ultimate authority." Also on the program: Elizabeth Cole of the Eagle Forum of Georgia, who accused public schools of "welcoming speakers from organizations such as Planned Parenthood who ridicule parental attempts to teach chastity." Nolan P. Cox of the state American Family Association warned, "A society that sends 12-year olds to watch killings in slasher films, practice killings in violent video games, and listen to killings in satanic rock music should eventually figure out why children absorb the culture of death and implement it in teen killings and suicides..." Coming in for some rare praise at the forum was Denise Miller of nearby Snellville, who saturated religious groups throughout Georgia with letters promoting Edu4um. "I know many pastors have public school teachers in their churches," Miller wrote. "Too many don't say peep for fear of offending them. How bad do the schools have to become before the courage to speak the truth overcomes the desire to be conciliatory? God will not hold pastors accountable for how many schoolteachers they kept in their congregation..." Edu4um is part of a nationwide effort by Christian conservatives who are urging an "exodus" of fellow religionists from the public school system by the turn of the millennium. Heading the effort is Exodus 2000, a nonprofit organization headed by a former Army Reserve Chaplain, E. Ray Moore, Jr. In addition to preaching, Moore has served as a campaign consultant in major local and national races, include former Vice President Dan Quayle's 1980 Senate race, and Pat Robertson's 1988 presidential bid. "He is considered an authority on involving evangelical Christians in politics and government," notes a bio sheet. In addition to running Exodus 2000, Moore also serves as president of Frontline Ministries, an evangelical revivalist sect in Columbia, South Carolina. With it's motto, "Let My Children Go," Exodus 2000 aims at promoting the notion that "Bible-based Christian education is the only acceptable alternative for the Christian community." To that end, it is urging parents to withdraw youngsters from the public school system in favor of home schooling or the burgeoning ranks of so-called "Christian academies" and other religious schools. Materials from the group warn excoriate Horace Mann, the architect of the nation's public schools who "exhibited an open hostility against orthodox Christianity" and was a Unitarian. Also coming in for criticism is philosopher John Dewey, who is cited as a "committed humanist and co-author of Humanist Manifesto I." Moore quotes Martin
Re: [CTRL] Flaw in Capitalist system]
-Caveat Lector- Ric Carter wrote: Does the concept of the primacy of "individual rights" preclude any individuals from joining in free association, incorporating as groups to engage in commercial, charitable, governmental or other activities? Do corporations [public or private] have more, equal or less rights than individuals? Corporations do not have individual rights nor should they. They are a creation of government and thus should be regulated. Individuals are not an artificial entity and should not be regulated in a free society. It was the 14th amendment which gave corporations similar rights as individuals (and vice versa). Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #3
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SkeptiNews 990504c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question
: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
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# MIDWEST CARNAGE - Tulsa, Oklahoma City, and Wichita ripped apart:
http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/story/19483.html
@ The Uses of Sim Sidewalks - What happens when three urban scholars sit
down to play SimCity? http://www.feedmag.com/vgs/johnson.html?alert
@ Is there a relationship between video games and violence?
www.feedmag.com/cgi-bin/loop/loop.cgi?function=areaviewdocument=fr208.shtml
: Is there a relationship between videogames and tornadoes? Do misfiring ET
implants make people build/live in tornado/hurricane zones? Are one or more
deities responsible for storm deaths? Should {YHWH} be charged with murder?
# MUSIC, VIOLENCE, AND THE RIAA. To address issues surrounding violence in
society and music, the recording industry is sponsoring online chats between
teens and rockers. How about some chats with politicos, gurus embezzlers?
www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/culture/story/19464.html
: Is there a relationship between music and behavior? Do death-metal and rap
make you dope kill? Do Sinatra songs make you drink? What makes you puke?
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# Museum displays relic of high priest who urged Jesus' killing. JERUSALEM
(AP) An ornate stone burial box believed to have contained the bones of a
high priest who plotted Jesus' arrest has been sealed shut after eager
Christian pilgrims tried to open it to get a look. Officials at the Israel
Museum revealed that they had taken the step to protect the ossuary, one
of the few artifacts linked to the story of Jesus' crucifixion. Digging
for dogmas - see http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/AP19990503_601.html
: Whose bones would you like to see? Are you motivated by curiosity, love,
hate, greed, alien implants, irresistible urges, pious regard, psychosis?
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# Peek at the Last Supper. (BBC) A glimpse of the controversial restoration
of Leonardo da Vinci's Last Supper following 20 years of painstaking work.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_335000/335403.stm
: Which is more important, the artwork or the message? Is faith restorable?
# Koran misprint sparks Kuwaiti crisis. The Emir of Kuwait has dissolved the
nation's elected parliament after a bitter feud about a missing Koran verse.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_335000/335404.stm
: Which is more important, the word or the deed? Is faith political? Why?
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# 'Hole' in space spotted - No stars have been detected in the dark region.
(BBC) Astronomers have spotted a "hole" in space. The region of the Milky
Way they examined contains a myriad of stars, yet none can be seen over a
large, black area. Why? A cloud of gas and dust in which there are no stars.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_334000/334738.stm
# Also: Astronomers moonstruck by Hubble pictures:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_324000/324983.stm
# New black holes discovered:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_318000/318884.stm
# Paranal power:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_303000/303936.stm
# Hubble spies planet 'nurseries':
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_276000/276579.stm
: Who put that hole in the sky? Are aliens hiding their home sytems from us?
Have deities concealed themselves there? Has space been devoured by demons?
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SansComment:
# ART THAT MAKES A STINK. A 19-year-old artist explores art for the senses.
As if looking at art weren't bad enough, now you have to smell it, too.
www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/culture/story/19480.html
# Bugs eat like humans, U. Arizona entomologists say . Two researchers
have found that the dinner hour can be a trying time for bugs and humans.
http://news.excite.com/news/uw/990503/university-odd-130
# SPACE STATION BACK ON TRACK. Things are looking up for the International
Space Station. The Russian Space Agency worked out its shaky financing and
will participate with NASA in the next mission on 20 May.
www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/technology/story/19482.html
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Articles on Freedom and Privacy from: http://www.well.com/~declan/politech/
Lawsuit: Does publishing commodity trading require a gov't licence?
http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/19476.html
The Economist cover story on privacy (week of May 1-May 7):
http://www.economist.com/tfs/current_issue_tframeset.html
Mitnick's hacking cost high-tech companies at least $291.8 million:
http://www.latimes.com/HOME/BUSINESS/CUTTING/t39748.1.html
Maria Seminerio on "handicapped accessible" Internet restrictions
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2243282,00.html
Enforcing the ban on the
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] A Modest Proposal]
-Caveat Lector- nurev wrote: We would like to get guns out of daily life and see what happens. If the death rate drops ( which it will ) then that's the way it will stay. I recently got the following e-mail suggesting that your assertion that the death rate would drop is incorrect. However, if there is a rise in tyranny (as many who disagree with your proposal suggest), then your suggestion that the gun ban will stay in place will be correct. Howard Davis AUSTRALIA SEES MAJOR CRIME INCREASE AFTER GOVERNMENT FIREARMS BAN The results are in from Australia after theAustralian government banned firearms and forced the country's gun-owners to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed, and the results are what we expected. In just one year after the government ban went into effect, costing the Citizens of Australia their rights the government more than 500-million dollars, a dramatic increase in criminal activity has occurred, including a whopping 44% increase in armed robberies. Despite the increase in violent crime, gun control advocates within the country continue to take a wait-and-see attitude. Since the firearm ban in Australia: * Homicides are up 3.2%; * Assaults are up 8.6%; and * Armed robberies up 44%. In the Australian state of Victoria, homicides with firearms increased 300% despite the government ordered ban. Statistics show that in the 25-years previous of the ban, there had been a steady decrease in homicides with firearms and in armed robbery with firearms. Additionally, there has been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the elderly throughout the Country. At the time the ban went into effect, Australian government officials said they believed that seIf-deefense was not a reason for owing firearms. From 1910 until the year prior to the ban, homicides in Australia had averaged about 1.8 per 100,000 or lower, and was considered a safe society by the world's standards. Australian politicians are now at a loss to explain why no improvement in safety has been observed after the monumental effort and expense was made in banning firearms from the society. Their response has sirnply been to wait longer. Sporting Shooter's Association of AustraliaExecutive Director Keith TidsweIl noted the citizens of the United States are fortunate because of the activity of pro- firearm organizations like TSRA (Texas State Rifle Association) and NRA (National Rifle Association). "The best organization you've got there (in the U.S.) is the NRA. We don't have an organization that size and as a consequence, we suffered. We hope that you don't suffer." Membership in Tidswell's organization has risen 200% in response to the ban as an attempt to organize against further controls, which are expected throughout the country. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Flaw in Capitalist system]
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Howard R. Davis III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ric Carter wrote: Does the concept of the primacy of "individual rights" preclude any individuals from joining in free association, incorporating as groups to engage in commercial, charitable, governmental or other activities? Do corporations [public or private] have more, equal or less rights than individuals? Corporations do not have individual rights nor should they. They are a creation of government and thus should be regulated. Individuals are not an artificial entity and should not be regulated in a free society. It was the 14th amendment which gave corporations similar rights as individuals (and vice versa). Commercial corporations preceded the existence of our federal gov't by a century or two, originating in Holland England in the 16th 17th centuries. A corporation is merely an association recognized as a legal entity, organized under specific laws rather than being granted a charter by a sovereign. Corporations may be commercial [such as a business], noncommercial [such as a charity], political [such as a party], govern- mental [such as a city], etc. Nations of revolutionary origin are self- constituted, rather than incorporated or chartered, but serve the same purpose as any other incorporated/chartered/constituted body - to provide certain services, services that individuals cannot obtain individually. The rights, privileges, and obligations of any corporation or individual are determined by the society in which they reside, and may be codified as laws, or exist more informally as mores, customs, morals, etc. Most societies establish [incorporate] governmental bodies as surrogates for the society as a whole. A favorite pastime of people is forming new govt's; when the US west was settled, as soon as more than a handful of people lived in an area, they'd hold town meetings, organize a gov't, choose officers, and proceed to the fun of political squabbling. It's one of the great entertainments of humanity, almost as much fun as war. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Howard: Flaw in Capitalist system]
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Edward Britton wrote:
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Howard:
Long before governments and law existed men and women gathered or killed
food to eat. Was this food not their property? They created tools which
made their efforts more efficient. Were these tools not the property of
their creators? Later they planted and cared for certain plants which
they found they preferred over others. Were these not then their
property?
Sorry for butting in, but I'm a little fuzzy on this property issue. Of
what claim to "property" has anyone when there exists a greater power who
can take same away by force?
The same claim as one has to one's life. Your argument can be made just
as easily for one's life as for one's property. If your argument is
correct, then what claim do you have to your life? Can it not be
disposed of by others just as easily (if not more so) than your
property? Our founding fathers wrote: "We hold these truths to be self
evident". Perhaps they were wrong. However, it seems self evident to me
that I have a right to my life and thus to those products of my life
which I create as a means to sustain and benefit my life.
Now I realize that there are some who do not believe in the concept of
"rights". To their arguments (and perhaps you are one of them?) I do not
propose to argue. However, I cannot consider those who would basically
argue that "might makes right", etc. to be those with whom I would wish
to associate in any way. And, I would wish to work with others who would
agree with me that we do have "rights" to protect them. This is the
basis of government ("and to secure these rights governments are
instituted among men"). It is the belief in the concept of "rights"
which is the basis of all law. Without it there can only be tyranny or
anarchy. (Though perhaps one could have a rather pleasant anarchy if all
believed in the concept of "rights" but not in force?).
Howard Davis
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-Caveat Lector- I just wanted you to know that your tribute to your friend was one of the most beautiful I have ever read. She certainly must have been a wonderful person to have brought that out of you. I know from what you have written that she must have been a real blessing to you. I am sorry for your loss. Howard Davis Teo One Thousand wrote: -Caveat Lector- To all of you it is with profound sadness that I tell you of the death of someone who has been with us on CTRL for a long time. Her screen name was SWhite9194, and she had an alternate identity that she posted under; DRErebus (I helped her pick out that name). She was one of the most lovely and sweetest persons that I have ever had the pleasure of knowing. I loved her dearly and will never be the same after the loss. She suffered through most of her short life with many illnesses and was on numerous medications. She still had so much love and life to share with people and a great concern and heart for others even in the midst of it. She helped me so many times and in so many ways that I could never, ever hope to count them all. She loved life and was determined to live the best way that she could through all of the worst that life offered her. She battled constantly against the sicknesses she had and against the cruelty of people that she had in her life and around her. I am one of the luckiest people in the world to have had her as a close friend and to have known her for the short time that I did. I want everyone here to think a kind thought for her and wish her peace wherever she has gone, according to your own beliefs. She was a Christian and had a deep faith in God, and even though I don't follow Christianity she understood and accepted me and my beliefs for which I was ever grateful. Much like everyone I have had to deal with setbacks and disappointments. I have had to deal with hurtful words from others and the unkind thoughts of many. She accepted me for who I was and did so with everyone in her life. She lived a short life, only just recently turning 28 years old, and it was filled with misery and woe, many times I wished that I could take away some of her pain and suffering to give her some joy and rest. The rigors of this life denied me that opportunity, as something always came between our being together. She went through hell on earth and it is my fervent hope that she has achieved that which she sought in this life, peace and rest, in a heaven that would always make her laugh and smile and be forever happy. Nothing could be better for her. One thing is for sure she will never suffer again from the illnesses that plagued her, she will never endure the hurt and pain of the evil people that surrounded her and she will never again have to cry herself to sleep at night or pray for peace. She has rest in some place and I am thankful for that if nothing else. Her name was Sharon White and she was a most wonderful and sweet person. Please remember her and shed a tear for a tortured souls passing and take a moment to wish her soul to find the peace and rest she so deserved. I loved her and you would have too if you had known her. Ted DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat
