[CTRL] QUOTATIONS FROM CHAIRMAN WOLF

1999-07-15 Thread Nicky Molloy

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Full story here. By Dr Richard Boylan.
http://www.jps.net/drboylan/WolfQut.htm

Dr. Michael Wolf is a 56-year-old man pincered between the horns of a
quintessential dilemma. His bosses at the National Security Council have
told him that they want him, precisely as a government scientist with ABOVE
TOP SECRET clearance, to generate a controlled leakage of major amounts of
secret information. That information is about UFO reality and
extraterrestrial contact with humans, including governmental involvement

Dr. Wolf describes various extraterrestrial races. "One race has orange
skin, very large heads and large dark eyes with no irises or whites, and
six-fingered hands. During dissection their brains have been found to have
four brain lobes, different optic orbs and nerves, and a sponge-like
digestive system. ET brains are more developed and connected, and have no
corpus callosum." He also described a race dubbed the Semitics, of average
height and a generally human-like appearance, except for their very large
hooked nose. "This was the race which landed at Holloman Air Force Base,
[New Mexico, in the Sixties], and conversed with some generals there." Wolf
also described a very human-appearing race called the Nordics. He said, "The
Semitics and Nordics come from Altair 4 and 5 and from the Pleiades."

He noted, The extraterrestrials eat vegetation and mushrooms, and have
different requirements. They absorb energy from the air and [certain]
particulates. They don't absorb enough water to need to void; they process
thoroughly." Wolf said that "cattle mutilations" tissue harvesting is not
related to cloning, but rather is done to acquire nutrients for the hybrid
fetuses the ETs create. Dr. Wolf noted that embryonic fluid contains an
anti-rejection factor. He is aware that not all cattle tissue harvesting is
done by extraterrestrials; some is done by Special Forces teams.

Crop circles "were originated by extraterrestrials, and then badly copied by
the military, using Strategic Defense Initiative weapons emitting a laser
pulsed beam." Wolf noted that "with crop circles made by ETs, the plants
were still live and grew, [after being bent into pictographic patterns.]
With SDI-weapon crop circles, the plants die. These SDI weapons are operated
from a secret base in the Himalayas."

Wolf disclosed that famed scientist "Albert Einstein had contact with
extraterrestrial intelligence." And that a more recent understanding of
Zero-Point energy "has to do with a white hole-black hole scenario." The ETs
told Wolf that the Void is filled with energy to be tapped. Wolf further
stated that experiments by the U.S. Government using exotic technology
"ripped holes in time."

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Re: [CTRL] socialism as dreamed of by Karl Marx. [a re-post for List ...

1999-07-15 Thread Das GOAT

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In a message dated 99-07-15 01:32:14 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

House, a shadowy figure who is practically unknown to the American public
these days, was one of the most influential men in twentieth century
American politics. He engineered the election of Woodrow Wilson to the
presidency; he played a key role in the formulation of the Federal Reserve
Act; he represented Wilson in the negotiations that finalized the disastrous
Treaty of Versailles; also, he was one of the invisible king-makers behind
Franklin Roosevelt.

All this, and Col. House was only the pawn of even BIGGER "invisible
king-makers," namely the "Society of the Elect," governed for decades by
Lords Cecil and Balfour -- British prime ministers both, and designers of the
Royal Institute for International Affairs (of which the CFR is only the
American wing) and a host of other "front groups," not only political but
religious and even occult, which served the modern British imperial agenda
even when allegedly fostering "Anglo-American collaboration."  (But since
that agenda was being bankrolled by the Rothschilds, we need to include them
among the "Elect.") House took his diplomatic orders directly from Robert
Cecil, Lord Salisbury, and was flattered to have been granted an entre into
his "lofty" company.  Woodrow Wilson, in turn, took his orders from House.
House's "think tank" called, I believe, the Inquiry, was born in WWI under
Wilson and it continued to function as an Anglo-American "State Department"
during Roosevelt's rise to power.  The Rothschilds used middlemen such as
House to enlist wealthy Jewish Americans in the Anglo-American "New Deal" plan
with which Roosevelt, being the political figurehead at the time, has become
identified.

There's little purpose in putting the spotlight on House without ALSO
mentioning his role in the tight-knit Anglophile "conspiracy" in which he too
was only a cog in a larger wheel.  Any decent diplomatic history of the WWI
period will straightforwardly provide the international chain of command in
the Versailles negotiations.  What's being called "socialism" here is more a
"benevolent feudalism" such as Bismarck was introducing, and for the same
reasons: if you didn't throw the peasants a few crumbs, they'll revolt
against their aristocratic masters.  The blueprint of the "Society of the
Elect," as I understand it, was a two-tiered affair -- a "liberal" society
for the masses -- but masses STILL ruled autocratically by a conservative,
imperially predatory and ambitious, elite. That duplex structure still
befuddles "either-or" ideologists who don't "get" Orwell's 1984 --.simplistic
minds who can't see foreground and background at the same time.  It's
"socialism" for the "proletariat" at the bottom AND "fascism" for their
rulers at the top.

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[CTRL] Quarter Century

1999-07-15 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From Irish Times


 Thursday, July 15, 1999

 Comparison with 1974 shows how far we have come



 -
 --- Opinion/Mary Holland


 Have we passed the Point of No Return? This was the phrase used
 by Hugo Patterson, the spokesman for the Northern Ireland
 Electricity Service, on BBC Radio Ulster on May 28th, 1974. He
 was saying that a complete shutdown of power in Norther Ireland
 had already begun and could not be reversed.

 It was this statement, marking the climax of the Ulster Workers'
 Council strike, which led to Brian Faulkner's resignation and the
 downfall of the first power-sharing executive. Comparisons have
 been drawn between Sunningdale and the Belfast Agreement, which
 faces another moment of crisis today. The accord has been
 described as "Sunningdale for Slow Learners" because it includes
 the same ingredients for a settlement - power-sharing in Northern
 Ireland and institutional links between Belfast and Dublin. The
 sneer has usually been directed at Sinn Féin - but in fact it
 serves to underline how far both communities travelled in the
 intervening years.

 There has been loose talk this week that Northern Ireland is in
 danger of losing the best opportunity for peace in this
 generation and is facing into the abyss. But one has only to look
 back, in the most cursory way, at the situation that prevailed in
 1974 to realise, with gratitude, how utterly things have changed.

 The violence was at its height. The IRA was committed to securing
 British withdrawal from Northern Ireland. Sinn Féin had no
 effective political strategy. The unionist community was so
 deeply alienated by the Sunningdale proposals that the UWC strike
 of 1974, organised by loyalist paramilitaries, commanded
 widespread support among the Protestant middle class, including
 the civil service.

 In May 1974 Northern Ireland was facing a crisis where food
 supplies were running short, there was no gas, the sewage system
 was threatened and the telephone network was on the verge of
 collapse as power ran low.

 Today there is peace, albeit imperfect, on the streets. The
 political climate has been transformed. The republican movement
 has accepted the principle of consent and is committed to the
 political process. We may even see decommissioning, sooner rather
 than later.

 The unionist political community has travelled an equal distance.
 An opinion poll of unionist voters in the Belfast News Letter
 last week registered widespread opposition to The Way Forward
 document, while it also showed an overwhelming majority of
 unionist voters in favour of power sharing - 84 per cent of
 Ulster Unionist supporters, 71 per cent among PUP/UDP, and 58 per
 cent approval among those who voted for the DUP.

 In the debate of the past few weeks the issue of cross-Border
 bodies, which seemed at one time likely to wreck the Good Friday
 agreement, has hardly surfaced.

 As with so much else, the unionist community has taken time to
 get used to the idea and now largely accepts that closer
 co-operation with this thriving State makes sense.

 One could go on and on. The past 25 years have been bitter for
 both communities. At one level it seemed that for almost 20 years
 no progress was made. The violence continued. Politics consisted
 of one botched initiative after another, with failure adding to
 the sense of hopelessness. But at a deeper level the necessary
 shifts in attitude were taking place.

 Some people would argue that what is on offer now could have been
 achieved in 1974 and that over 2,000 lives would have been saved.
 We will never know if that is true or not. What we can say is
 that the long and painful years of learning have helped to bring
 both communities to where we are today.

 Last Monday night on Questions and Answers, Inez MacCormack, the
 incoming president of the Irish Congress of Trade Unions, spoke
 movingly of how so called ordinary people have worked to forge
 understanding across the sectarian divide. It hasn't been easy,
 not at all. Often they have been frightened and mistrustful. But
 they have persevered and thus helped to create the sea change in
 political attitudes in Northern Ireland.

 At a time like this the whole process can look dreadfully
 fragile. Tony Blair issues dire warnings about the consequences
 of failure. The Taoiseach, who really should know better, seems
 to have caught the British Prime Minister's taste for the
 apocalyptic. In an article in this newspaper a couple of days
 ago, Mr Ahern wrote that what happens this week "could determine
 the future of Northern Ireland for a long time to come, for
 better or worse".

 This is nonsense. It will be a marvellous and happy day for all
 the people of this island if it proves possible to set up a
 power-sharing executive, with the support of both communities in
 the North. But if it does not happen, then the two governments
 and the 

[CTRL] East Comes West?

1999-07-15 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From TheIndependent


 GERMAN PHONE TAPS ARE ROUTINE


 GERMANY'S SECRET services can routinely listen to anyone's
 international telephone calls, as long as they do not pass their
 findings to the local police, the country's highest court ruled
 yesterday.

 The judgment of the Constitutional Court in Karlsruhe settles a
 legal battle waged for the last five years by the Tageszeitung
 newspaper and a law professor, who argued that state
 eavesdropping was endangering civil liberties.

 Their target was a law passed in 1994 which for the first time
 authorised a wide-spread surveillance of German citizens. The
 Federal Intelligence Service will not say how many calls, fax and
 data transmissions it intercepts every day, but estimates run
 into thousands.

 About 1,400 of its operatives, roughly a quarter of the total,
 are tapping into satellite traffic. Germany is believed to have
 the fourth most extensive eavesdropping operation in the Western
 world, after the US, Britain and Israel.

 At the service's headquarters in the Munich suburb of Pullach,
 and at 10 other listening stations, a formidable array of
 electronic equipment filters calls for their content, looking for
 key words. Mention "cocaine", "weapons", "revolution" or their
 various euphemisms, and the call will trigger alarms. The
 conversation can then be recorded and - until the latest ruling -
 the police informed of its contents, without the caller ever
 finding out.

 But the police must now be kept out, and it will no longer be
 within the service's remit to trawl the ether for forgers of
 foreign banknotes. But, to the disappointment of civil rights
 activists, its other current practices will continue.

 Its only limitation is computer and telephone technology. No one
 has yet produced reliable speech-recognition software for the
 organisation's powerful computers, and the system can easily be
 overloaded by pranksters.

They fought the GDR  Stasi over this same sort of issue,
no?


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[CTRL] FURTHER DISCLOSURES BY DR. MICHAEL WOLF

1999-07-15 Thread Nicky Molloy

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By Richard Boylan, Ph.D. This is a followup to the Nexus magazine article.

http://www.jps.net/drboylan/WlfLek1.htm
This has the full article..

Michael Wolf, MD, Ph.D., ScD, JD, is scientific consultant to the National
Security Council's Special Studies Group (popularly known as MJ-12). In
December, he began a new series of disclosures to the author. These are not
"leaks", but are sanctioned by the U.S. Government under its "Processed
Release of Information" program. It is my conclusion that other


The extraterrestrial Federation is working collaboratively with world
governments to gradually prepare the general population to accept the
reality of, and presence of, extraterrestrial races on Earth. The Federation
has wished to avoid any mass panic or major disruption of society that could
have come from a premature announcement. And the time is now near, if not
already arrived, for the world public to accept contact with races from the
stars.

The ET Federation has another precondition before they are willing to
present themselves openly: Peace on Earth. They are unwilling, short of a
global cataclysm, to show themselves publicly, until all major conflicts on
Earth have been peacefully resolved. They do not want to emerge and try to
share their culture amidst humans shooting at each other and bombs dropping.
World governmental leadership has taken the ET Federation's challenge to
heart. Thus, the reader may have noticed a concerted international effort in
the past several years to resolve major conflicts, some of which have been
going on for centuries.

Wolf also stated, "We are currently negotiating with an ET mothership to
bring the Moon back into its axis." He declared that the Moon is artificial,
long ago positioned in its orbit by extraterrestrials. Furthermore, he
confirmed that there is an extraterrestrial base on the Moon. When I
suggested the base was on the dark side, he did not challenge that
assumption.

 The conversation then turned to Egyptian pyramids. As the movie "2001"
reflected reported CIA-asset Arthur C. Clarke's insider knowledge about a
real extraterrestrial space messaging beacon, so once more, art imitates
real life. In this case, the movie "Stargate" introduced the public to the
concept of a special portal, which permitted a person stepping through to
travel to another dimension. Dr. Wolf revealed that "The Egyptian pyramids
were built by our [ET] ancestors, using sonic technology and other advanced
devices." He added that within the Egyptian pyramid complex is a Stargate,
which permits access to the ETs existing in a different dimension. He
intimated that the Stargate was near the Sphinx's paw. He complained, "Egypt
won't allow John Anthony West access to the area, even though the Egyptians
don't have the technology to make it work." Dr. Wolf has communicated about
the Stargate with his friend, the UN Security Council staff official. "She
said, 'We ought to work together to get this out. This will raise
consciousness in the general public, and will speed up getting out the fact
of extraterrestrial contact into the open..'"

As the conversation wound down, Wolf delivered one final bombshell. If, as
seems increasingly likely, Al Gore steps into the Presidency, the U.S. will
have a President whose family has been personally involved with
extraterrestrial encounters. Gore has a child who was seriously ill, and who
was cured by the extraterrestrials. "And Vice-President Gore himself has had
an ET encounter." Thus, America may soon have an Experiencer President.

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[CTRL] Latest Revelations from NSC consultant Dr. Michael Wolf

1999-07-15 Thread Nicky Molloy

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http://www.jps.net/drboylan/
Latest Revelations from NSC consultant Dr. Michael Wolf

by Richard Boylan, Ph.D.

(c)1998

Late last week I received a phone call from Dr. Michael Wolf, consultant to
the National Security Council's Special Studies Group, (popularly known as
MJ-12.) He provided new information, and expanded on some previous
disclosures.

Wolf expanded on his previous revelation that a secret military spacecraft
retrieved an extraterrestrial space beacon, dubbed The Monolith, from its
position in space, and brought it back to Earth in 1972 for study. The
U.S.'s removal of the powerfully-energized Monolith has caused our Moon to
destabilize 2% from its normal axis. This in turn has adversely affected
Earth's climate. Top International Security officials in communication with
extraterrestrial representatives have requested them to restore the Moon to
its proper axis. But the ETs have declined to help until the U.S. restores
the space beacon to its original position in space. This is consistent with
general ET policy of providing helpful advice, but not rescuing humankind
from taking responsibility and action to correct our previous folly.

The conversation turned to a rash of recent reports of large anomalous
objects spotted within our local region of space. Dr. Wolf minced no words
about what is known within the highest National Security circles. "There are
several large UFOs in our solar system."

I spoke with Dr. Wolf next about an experiencer I know, who has had frequent
communication from a humanoid extraterrestrial identifying himself as
originating from the

Altair system. (Altair is a very bright, variable double star in the
constellation Aquila, 15.7 light- years from Earth.) This woman experiencer
had met this extraterrestrial in the 1950s, in the course of her training
for highly-classified intelligence assignments. Wolf was nonchalant about
such human-extraterrestrial interactions, having himself worked side by side
in classified government laboratories with a human-appearing ET from the
Altair system and a "Grey" humanoid scientist from the Zeta Reticuli system.
"Altair's fourth and fifth planets are inhabited. In fact, the people from
Altair colonized the Pleiades system long ago. The human-looking Pleiadean
extraterrestrials some people meet are actually ancestrally Altairians.
There are two variants, the Semitic-looking ones and the Nordic-looking
ones. The 'Semitics' are the race which landed at Holloman Air Force Base
(New Mexico) in the '60s, and conversed with some generals there."

Dr. Wolf also revealed that, as a military-intelligence Colonel-physician,
he has worked with some very-high military officials who have had close
extraterrestrial encounters, and needed some counseling to adjust to their
paradigm-shattering experience.

We also talked about extraterrestrial-human hybrids, who have been
genetically engineered by certain extraterrestrial cultures. More recently,
secret U.S. national security projects have attempted to also bioengineer
such hybrids, having some success. Wolf characterized such hybrids as having
three-helix-strand DNA and fore-lobe brains. "Europa [Jupiter's seventh
moon] is a place for such hybrids [to live]."

The conversation turned to information I received from an National Security
Agency source about NSA's ability to monitor an individual's brainwave and
thought activity from special surveillance satellites. Dr. Wolf did not deny
such technology, and added, "The government can create confabulated
[contrived] memory in a person through Amytal [sodium amobarbitol, a
hypnotic drug] and microwave [brain] scrambling."

Wolf brought up the current week-long series of specials on the Learning
Channel about UFOs and extraterrestrial-human encounters. He touted that as
part of the government's conditioning program, which he calls the Processed
Release of Information. We got into our on- going argument about the pace
and timing of public acknowledgment by officials of ET contact, with my
arguing that such time has come. Wolf demurred, saying that the
national-security Old Guard, with which he identifies himself, feel the
public is not yet ready, and needs more such conditioning. This writer
vigorously disagreed, pointing out that the government has consistently
misread the public as fools, whereas the public is generally well ahead of
government estimates. Dr. Wolf noted that the national security community is
divided. The Old Guard of scientists, military and intelligence officers
with access to UFO secrets is nearing retirement and want the reality of ET
contact to come out, but slowly. The Cabal, a rogue group of young generals,
intelligence officers and defense contractors, opposes disclosure, and wants
to enjoy for themselves the power, prestige and profit that comes from
continuing the monopoly on ET information and technology. Wolf said, "They
are the ones who shot a [Star Wars] weapon at a UFO near [Space Shuttle]
STS-48."

[If 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The Case for a Do-Nothing Congress

1999-07-15 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 07/14/1999 1:14:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 * Y2K Immunity. Although it is fair to say that the public and businesses
 have been widely aware of the eventual arrival of the year 2000  for
 decades, many software designers failed to design products that will
 adequately respond to this eventuality, and then failed to take timely
 corrective action. Congress chose to give them special protections
 nonetheless.

 The Y2K immunity legislation would make it much harder for consumers and
 small businesses that suffer from Y2K failures to be compensated, and
 would also make it difficult to file class action lawsuits for Y2K harms
 or injuries. Although President Clinton initially said he "strongly
 opposed" the legislation, he has now agreed to a compromise measure that
 closely resembles the earlier version he denounced. 

Yes, and they are also working on Y2K immunity for insurance companies.  Why
leave them out?  Just what the workings of that business are, I don't know,
but it can't be good for the average joe, because Congress doesn't do things
for "the little people."  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Re Christie Todd Whitman

1999-07-15 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 07/14/1999 3:06:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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 Perhaps one of the few female politicians more silly and obnoxious then
 Dame
 Whitman is Aunt Thomisina Jackson Lee. Her step and fetchit defense of
 Massa Kriminal Klinton was one of the more revolting TV spectacles one
 was forced to endure during the Impeachment Fiasco.

 How her poor Texan constitutents got stuck with that ex Brooklyn
 Bigmouth \ Dimbulb must be a depresssing story. 

Gee, I guess it's all in how you look at it.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Warlord Clinton

1999-07-15 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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 The Nuclear Warlords
 by Charles Smith

 excerpts:

 In 1998, the Commerce Dept. denied access to all China-Gate
 documents, citing national security, on the grounds that they
 could "neither confirm nor deny" their existence.  In response,
 this reporter filed suit in Federal Court, located in Richmond,
 Virginia, seeking the withheld information.

 The evidence showed that the Commerce Dept. was withholding
 details on "military" exports directly to the Chinese Army.
 The Commerce Dept. is not authorized to issue export licenses
 to military end-users.

 Commerce Dept. documents show that SUN Corp., a U.S. computer
 maker, sold a super-computer directly to a Chinese Army nuclear
 weapons lab at Yuanwang Corp.  The documents also show that the
 Clinton administration knew that Yuanwang was operated by the
 Chinese Army.

 According to U.S. Naval Institute defense analyst Norman
 Friedman, "The Chinese obtained the computer programs (codes)
 Los Alamos uses to simulate what happens inside an exploding
 nuclear warhead.  The software is exactly what a designer of
 an advanced weapon would need."

 "Softened" Clinton-led export regulations, according to
 Friedman, "made it possible for the Chinese to buy 600
 super-computers on which to run that software.  Thus, the
 Chinese have transformed their weapons development capability
 in a very few years."

 According to defense sources, China will soon test a new nuclear
 weapon design capacity.  The Chinese Army Second Artillery
 Corp. is planning to test launch their latest Dong-Feng (East
 Wind) 31 missile in celebration of 50th anniversary of the July
 1949 take over of China by Mao.  The DF-31 is reported to be
 able to deliver three, newly developed, lightweight, 90 Kiloton
 nuclear warheads to any target in America.

 The Chinese DF-31 is a road mobile, nuclear tipped SCUD like
 missile, that is nearly impossible to find, much less destroy.
 It is intended to counter the USAF B-2 bomber in a "limited"
 nuclear war scenario where China and the U.S. would only kill
 a few million people on each side.

 The Clinton administration assisted China in its efforts to
 become the next nuclear super-power.  The next cold war has
 begun and with it will come another expensive nuclear arms race.
 America can no longer lay claim to dominate the world with
 fire-power.  The decade of peace is over.  The defeat of the
 Soviet empire was squandered by a callous and negligent
 President more concerned with his sexual antics than nuclear
 espionage.



 ...complete story at:

 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_smith/
 19990713_xcsof_rosenberg_.shtml



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[CTRL] Fwd: Liz Jim Sanders - Sentence passed tomorrow at 1:30 PM Uniondale, NY

1999-07-15 Thread Kris Millegan





In a message dated 7/14/99 11:27:17 PM EST, Aubrac writes:

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Dear Flight Attendant Buddies and Other Wonderful People -

The SANDERES sentence date moved up to the day before the 3rd anniversary
just wasn't timely enough for them - Pat Milton got to release her book
supporting her love of the FBI and Kallstrom and "America, right or wrong" -
she (Pat Milton) has made every talk show there is and NOT ONE word about the
TWA Flight Attendant that is in dire straights tomorrow, with the book
possibly being thrown at her and no press coverage - NO UNBIASED Major News
Press Coverage - NONE !

The major news didn't show her being shackled (hands behind back) 1 1/2 years
ago, why should they give us the CORRECT facts, in regards to her innocence -
trial had proven her innocence by the phone records - the infamous phone call
was made by Liz to Stacey, after the fabric was given to Jim Sanders - SHE
MADE THE PHONE CALL AFTER - not before (as Stacey testified to the FEDS) -
YET the miraculous - "1 hr verdict jury" found her guilty on theft and
conspiracy charges!  SHE faces 10 years -

I call it "Kallstrom's Revenge" - sort of like "Montezuma's Revenge" - only
with bulls!

A FEDERAL Court Judge ruled to throw out the FEDERAL - "FIRST AMENDMENT"
(protecting Sanders) in a FEDERAL case held in a FEDERAL Court Building -
judged by a FEDERAL jury, hand picked by the FEDERAL Judge. The jury could
not take into consideration Jim Sanders' journalistic rights.

Now what am I asking - FOR YOU TO BE THERE and scream bloody murder. She lost
her job, SHE lost her health. SHE lost her rights and was badly "roughed up"
by the older FBI agents at the time of her surrender - (the younger agents
protested to this treatment) - SHE is ONE of you - Liz Sanders is your
SISTER.

Please support her by being there - Tomorrow, Friday 7-16 at 1:00 pm the
Federal Court in Uniondale NY. I'll be there and so will some citizens from
Long Island who saw missiles!  Got that - missiles or projectiles or ordnance
- NOT fuel rising from the ocean -

Please print this out in multiple copies to hand out to all you know - mail
your grievances to your Senators and Congressman - WEAR a sign if you saw a
missile or ordnance - whatever - BUT do NOT take this laying down; for if you
do we might as well FAST REWIND to Germany 1940.

Thank you,
Kay Pennington
Cofounder TWA Flight Attendants' Independent Investigation

note: Liz will you print this out? pl)




[CTRL] Burning Bush: George Jr.'s Cross to Bear

1999-07-15 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
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Burning Bush: George Jr.'s Cross t
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Burning Bush: George Jr.'s Cross to Bear
FILED 05/24/99
One of the only things preventing George Bush's son, George W. Bush Jr.,
from achieving a mortal lock on the next Republican Presidential
nomination are those pesky rumors that he's used recreational drugs.
Unlike President Clinton (whose presidency has been oddly defined by his
confession that he once attempted to smoke pot but, as an asthmatic,
"didn't inhale"), GWB Jr. did more than just experiment once or twice
with cocaine, allege the rumormongers, and the man himself has
acknowledged that he was a real party animal until a few years ago,
before he allegedly "grew up."

So far, Bush has neither confirmed nor denied the nose-candy rumors,
which is understandable from his point of view. A denial could exhume
eyewitnesses or other evidence, and the denials he would have to issue
would make Clinton's "I-did-not-have-sexual-intercourse" fibs look like
cake in comparison. Of course, any admission that President George
Bush's Own Son ever indulged in any illegal recreational drug would
probably spell instant doom for any hopes of him, or any other
Republican candidate, getting elected to the White House. After all, no
one was tougher on illegal drugs than George Herbert Walker Bush Senior.
(Unless you were trading arms for coke in Central America, but that's
another story.)

While the mainstream press has downplayed these rumors, a George Bush
parody Website has been having a high old time with them. Fired up by
Bush's refusal to address these rumors, these jolly individuals have
launched www.gwbush.com, as a continuous parody of Bush's nascent
Presidential campaign. So far on the parody site, Bush has promised to
launch a new initiative, "Amnesty 2000," to absolve everyone like him
who experimented with cocaine before they "grew up." Interviews are also
presented with major Bush contributors such as the corrections industry
(who benefit directly from the Drug War).

The Website itself was formed by an odd partnership. Zack Exley, the
Boston computer consultant who set up this parody website and reserved
the domain name, describes himself as "a Christian who loathes
hypocrisy." Most of the content on the site was provided by RTMARK, a
group that "specializes in calling attention to corporate subversion of
the US political and electoral process." RTMARK says it is "primarily
devoted to anti-corporate activism, and counts the very companies that
Mr. Exley works for as some of its targets." Meanwhile, the parody
Website is so successful that it's listed as an unofficial Bush campaign
site in Yahoo! and other search engines.

This in turn inspired the Junior Bush to try to buy the domain names.
Exley asked for $350,000, so Bush filed a complaint with the Federal
Elections Commission on May 3 to prevent Exley  Co. from running their
parody--thus proving not only that he has no sense of humor but a very
thin skin. Bush's reaction has set all the "Freedom of the Internet"
watchdogs loose on this battle, since it could set precedents for the
limits of Internet parody and rights to own domain names. Junior Bush
also decided to go out and buy any and every website URL that might be
confused as one of his own-- there were 60 of them, according to
report--including bushbites.com and bushsux.org. (This desperate attempt
at damage control was probably inspired by fellow Republican Rudy
Giuliani's anti-Hillary-Clinton Website, www.hillaryno.com although one
might think that if Bush were successful at preventing Exley  RTMARK
from running an anti-Bush Website with a name like gwbush.com, they
could turn around and take bushsux.org away from Bush for similar
reasons.)

According to a press release sent out by Exley and RTMARK:
"By reserving the domain names, Exley initially hoped to sell them back
to the Bush camp for a small profit. That changed, however, when he
[Exley] read news articles that discussed Bush's refusal to deny past
cocaine use. His interest in the matter has since escalated into
something of a crusade."

"Bush won't deny he used cocaine," says Exley, "yet hundreds of
thousands of people are serving very long sentences for equivalent or
lesser crimes, including many in Texas, where Bush is governor. Clinton
just got away with perjury while a hundred people are in jail for that
crime. Do we want our children to learn that a crime is only a crime if
you don't have power?'"

Meanwhile, RTMARK seem more concerned by Bush's attempted power-play on
the freedom of the Net. "George W. Bush Jr. apparently thinks small-time
folk should have to register with the government before exercising free
speech on the Internet," says Rita Mae Rakoczi, a lawyer and RTMARK
representative. "The implications of such a precedent could be quite
serious."

•The full text of the Bush 

[CTRL] OEN 7/15/99

1999-07-15 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
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Today's Lesson From The Great Crash

by John Kenneth Galbraith


The most spectacular embezzlement of the period . . . was the looting of
the Union Industrial Bank of Flint, Michigan. The gross take, estimates
of which grew alarmingly as the investigation proceeded, was stated in
The Literary Digest later in the year [1929] to be $3,592,000.

In the beginning this embezzlement was a matter of individual
initiative. Unknown to each other, a number of the bank's officers began
making away with the funds. Gradually they became aware of each other's
activities, and since they could scarcely expose each other, they
co-operated. The enterprise eventually embraced about a dozen people,
including virtually all of the principal officers of the bank.
Operations were so well organized that even the arrival of bank
examiners at the local hotels was made known promptly to members of the
syndicate.

Most of the funds which were purloined had been deposited with the bank
to be loaned in the New York call market. The money was duly dispatched
to New York but promptly recalled while the records continued to show
that it was there. The money was then returned once more to New York and
put into stocks. In the spring of 1929 the group was about $100,000
ahead. Then, unfortunately, it went short just as the market soared into
the blue yonder of the summer sky. This was so costly that the group was
induced to return to a long position, which it did just before the
crash. The crash, needless to to say, was mortal.
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TWA Big Brother

The FBI and Flight 800

A Missile Expert Cries Cover-Up

The Flight 800 investigation, still at a loss to explain the tragedy,
has the right stuff for a thrilling spy novel. Government flacks easily
spin the lazy mainstream media to sedate the nervous public. Meanwhile,
a band of military insiders heads for the Internet (http://twa800.com)
and reaches out to a few sympathetic independent journalists to convince
readers that the truth is being hidden. For some reason—at this point
only a fiction writer could provide one—many observers believe that the
government is covering up the disaster's most likely explanation: it was
a missile that three years ago this week, 10 miles south of Long Island,
brought down the Paris-bound 747, killing all 230 aboard.
As the investigation's third anniversary passes, the mystery is
deepening. A few months ago, a retired army officer bearing impressive
credentials approached the Voice as an intermediary for a missile expert
with a story to tell. This expert is extremely fearful of losing his
job—for more than 20 years he's been a military engineer who specializes
in infrared missile technology. Assured of anonymity, he submitted to
lengthy interviews by telephone and e-mail, detailing why he believes
the investigation of TWA Flight 800 is a cover-up.

After spending more than $40 million on the investigation, the FBI and
the National Transportation Safety Board have not found a definitive
answer for why the center fuel tank exploded. Yet they have ruled out a
missile as the cause. The NTSB believes an undetermined system flaw
produced an electrical spark that ignited jet fuel vapors in the tank.

Prior to the official embrace of this mechanical explanation, the
missile expert was among several scientists invited by FBI agents to
explore the missile theory. He was made privy to evidence suggesting
that TWA 800 could have been shot down, consisting of eyewitness
accounts of a "flare-like object" shooting skyward moments before the
plane exploded. Later he examined the debris in the Calverton hangar.

The missile expert has also been in contact with military labs where, he
says, the chemists have been unable to make jet fuel vapor explode as
the NTSB says it did in TWA 800's center fuel tank. "The labs told the
NTSB there's a big problem—it can't happen." The NTSB wouldn't listen.
He says, "They were adamant that [the labs] had to find something."

The evidence adds up, the missile expert believes, to a "70 percent
chance" that TWA 800 was downed by a shoulder-launched missile. Like
others who have spoken to the Voice, the expert is exasperated with what
he sees as a corrupted investigation. Asked why he is speaking up now,
he says, "I wanted someone to look at the truth, not whitewash it away."


The missile expert says his unit was summoned by the FBI quite early in
the investigation and asked to review the eyewitness accounts and check
out the potential for a successful missile hit. "We talked to Ted Otto
and Steve Bongardt"—two agents assigned by FBI assistant director James
Kallstrom to examine the missile theory. "We picked missiles and ran
computer simulations and shipped the data to Bongardt," the Voice source
says. The data showed that virtually any post–Vietnam era
shoulder-launched missile would have had the range and 

[CTRL] Information drawn from the ATM Suspicious Activity Reporting System

1999-07-15 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.ustreas.gov/fincen/sarbul1.html
A HREF="http://www.ustreas.gov/fincen/sarbul1.html"SAR Bulletin/A
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SAR Bulletin
Information drawn from the Suspicious Activity Reporting System


June 1999

 Issue 1
Since April 1, 1996, the nation’s banks, thrift institutions and
credit unions have been subject to suspicious activity reporting (SAR)
requirements. The centralized database of SAR filings has now attained a
critical mass in which reflections of regional, national and
international criminal financial activity are embedded. At the same
time, a new generation of computer-driven analytic tools has been
developed, making it possible to begin analyzing the underlying data for
information about such activity.
The following "SAR Bulletin" is the first of a series of overviews
of trends and patterns in money laundering derived from the SAR
database. The SAR Bulletin Series is designed to highlight activities or
issues that appear significant based on such factors as:
•number of reports;
•number of financial institutions filing similar reports;
•aggregate dollar values;
•geographic distribution; and
•recurrent patterns of activity identified in SAR narratives.


In no cases will information relating to particular institutions,
businesses or individuals be included in any Bulletin.

Whether the information in a particular Bulletin is of relevance to
a particular bank, of course, depends in many cases upon that bank’s
operating realities. In all cases, comments or other feedback would be
welcome.

//s//
James F. Sloan
Director

United States Department of the Treasury - Financial Crimes Enforcement
Network




Automated
Teller Machines
A review of Suspicious Activity Reports (SARs) filed from July 1997
through mid-April 1999 identified 982 reports noting a
BSA/Structuring/Money Laundering violation (in whole or in part) and
citing instances of Automated Teller Machine (ATM) activity in the
narrative section. These reports were filed by more than 90 different
banks in 39 states, plus the District of Columbia and Guam.

The narrative sections of the SARs reveal that ATMs are being used
domestically and internationally to deposit and/or withdraw large sums
of cash on a recurrent basis with the apparent purpose of evading
detection by law enforcement.

Domestically, the SARs indicate two patterns of structuring of cash
transactions to avoid the CTR filing requirement: First, customers make
multiple cash deposits and/or withdrawals on the same day at different
or single ATM locations. Second, withdrawals are made using a
combination of same day counter and ATM activity
aggregating more than $10,000—for example, cashing a $9,500 check
followed by a $500 ATM withdrawal.
A third pattern—reflected in over 30 percent of the SARs—involves
international activity. Funds deposited as cash or wired into accounts
in the United States from other nations are subsequently withdrawn
within a short period of time from ATMs located in different countries
(usually those having a high-risk for money laundering or drug
trafficking). The size and number of the withdrawals within short time
frames are indicative of potential money laundering.

The SARs filed by the banks in question serve to remind us that the
precautions financial institutions take to prevent or detect money
laundering must deal with ATM systems as effectively as with other parts
of banking operations. Bank training programs, internal control systems,
and internal anti-money laundering audits must take appropriate account
of the risk of misuse of ATM systems.

For additional information, comments or questions concerning suspicious
transactions involving ATMs, please call FinCEN’s Office of Research and
Analysis at (703) 905-3665.



SAR Bulletin is a product of the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network,
U.S. Department of the Treasury, 2070 Chain Bridge Road, Vienna VA
22182.
For more information about FinCEN's programs, visit the
FinCEN web site at http://www.treas.gov/fincen.
General questions or comments regarding FinCEN publications
should be addressed to the Office of Communications, FinCEN, (703)
905-3773
Information may also be faxed to (703) 905-3885.





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[CTRL] Report scolds Justice, FBI handling of China data

1999-07-15 Thread CobolMage

 -Caveat Lector-

http://cnn.com/US/9907/15/justice.china/index.html

Report scolds Justice, FBI handling of China data

July 15, 1999


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- An internal Justice Department investigation released
Wednesday revealed "no improper intent to conceal information" relating to
the probe of possible Chinese efforts to influence U.S. politics, but
questioned the judgment of top FBI and Justice officials.

Inspector General Michael Bromwich found that senior officials abandoned
Justice Department standards and inappropriately provided too much
uncorroborated raw data to the Republican-controlled Congress.

"In order to satisfy Congressional committees' demands for information ...
the Department adopted a policy of briefing the committees and later the NSC
[National Security Council] on information of unknown reliability rather
than waiting until that information could be corroborated," the report said.

Bromwich released a 22-page summary of his top secret 569- page report.

An FBI statement welcomed "many of the suggestions" and said it already
taken steps to provide "finished" analyses of raw intelligence data.


Important data not given to Reno, Freeh

The Inspector General blamed the practice of providing too much
uncorroborated raw data to Congress, in part, to a September 1997 incident
in which the CIA had provided previously undisclosed FBI information to a
Senate panel investigating possible Chinese interference in U.S. campaigns.

Attorney General Janet Reno and FBI Director Louis Freeh testified that they
were unaware of the information at the time.

That led Reno, Freeh and Committee Chairman Sen. Fred Thompson (R-Tennessee)
to question whether campaign finance investigators were receiving all the
FBI's intelligence on Chinese efforts.

The Bromwich report revealed that Reno and Freeh did have the information in
question, but it was buried in documents and not otherwise brought to their
attention.

The data related to whether a California businessman from Indonesia, Ted
Sioeng, acted on behalf of China in donating $250,000 to the Democratic
National Committee and $50,000 to a Republican think tank.

Sioeng's attorney denied that China or its officials "directed or funded any
political contributions" by Sioeng.


FBI division used 'poor judgment'

The Bromwich report also cited "poor judgment" on the part of the FBI's
National Security Division, which is responsible for catching spies
operating in the United States.

The document cited "attempts to protect the division's interests" by
withholding information at the expense of the rest of the FBI and the
Justice Department's campaign task force.

Bromwich called on Justice and FBI officials to resolve a dispute over how
much to tell the White House's National Security Council about the campaign
investigation.

The FBI, concerned about protecting the criminal investigation, believed
that briefing the White House "was akin to briefing the subject of an
investigation about that investigation."

Other Justice officials believed the White House needed to receive national
security information from the probe.

Bromwich, who has announced his resignation from the Justice Department, is
known for stinging reports on several high- profile investigations

They include probes into the practices of the FBI Crime Lab, the Immigration
and Naturalization Service citizenship program and the FBI's role in the
Aldrich Ames spy case.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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[CTRL] Wm. F. Buckley and Robt Morris BOTH worked for McCarthy AND Draper

1999-07-15 Thread Kris Millegan

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from alt.conspiracy
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The Thin Line Between Fact and Fiction
by Robert Bryce
Thursday, July 08, 1999
Comments: 145 posts







Book Review: The Finish Line is Color Blind : Robert Bryce reviews
Darwin's Athletes: How Sport Has Damaged Black America and Preserved the
Myth of Race by John Hoberman.





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A review of The Redhunter: A novel based on the life of Senator Joe
McCarthy
by William F. Buckley Jr.
Little Brown and Company
$24.50, 421 pages

The Redhunter
The line between fact and fiction is so blurry in William F. Buckley's
Redhunter that it is impossible to tell where truth begins and ends. But
given the topic, the melding of fact and fiction may be appropriate.
After all, the book's hero, Sen. Joe McCarthy, had a strained
relationship with the truth. As Buckley notes, McCarthy often lied about
his opponents to gain political advantage.

Buckley's novel is based on an odd concept: write a fictional book about
McCarthy, but fill it with true material. Further, include descriptions
of numerous real-life events and people and use direct quotes from them.
It is a daunting task.

But by and large, Buckley is up to the task. And since Buckley worked
for McCarthy for several years, he had a front-row seat to many of the
events described in the book. Plus, given his close association with
McCarthy, Buckley is able to paint a compelling portrait of the man from
Wisconsin who, within the span of 12 years, went from being a nobody to
being one of the most famous men in America to being censured by the
Senate, then to drinking himself to death.

The man behind the menace

Buckley captures McCarthy's tragic side. Visiting the senator at his
home in 1957, just before McCarthy died, Buckley describes McCarthy
looking for a bottle of liquor in the kitchen, a bottle that his wife,
Jean, had hidden.

"Joe bent over and opened the cabinet drawer under the sink. He ran his
hand about the empty space. He stood up. His face was contorted.
Surprise, indignation, resolution." After prevailing on his wife to give
him the bottle, McCarthy turned to his guest and said, "Let's go back in
the study now, have a little good-old time."

Buckley recounts well McCarthy's personal history. He tells of
McCarthy's boyhood, growing up on a farm in Wisconsin, how he failed in
the chicken business, and how he got into Marquette University. He
discusses McCarthy's foray into politics, winning his first political
race, his stint with the Marines during World War II, how he quit the
Marines and returned to Wisconsin to run for a seat in the U.S. Senate.
Buckley does not flinch in recounting how McCarthy lied about the age of
his opponent when he was a candidate for local judge. But the lying
worked. McCarthy won the election.

Buckley describes the secret meetings between McCarthy and the
power-obsessed head of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, J. Edgar
Hoover. In one passage, Hoover encourages McCarthy to continue his hunt
for Communists, saying that McCarthy is "onto the most important
challenge in the history of the United States." Later, Hoover meets with
McCarthy to provide names of suspected Communists. And Hoover warns
McCarthy that president Harry Truman "doesn't believe the Communist
infiltration is that deep."

Buckley gives an intriguing account of a meeting attended by McCarthy
and former President (and rabid anti-Communist) Richard Nixon when the
two senators met with Whittaker Chambers, the man who accused Alger Hiss
of being a spy.

The Redhunter details the now-famous moment when McCarthy got his
comeuppance. It came in 1954, while McCarthy was investigating Communist
infiltration of the Army. During a hearing, McCarthy had a heated
exchange with Joseph Welch, an attorney representing the Army. It was
Welch who finally stood up to McCarthy.

"Until this moment, Senator, I think I never really gauged your cruelty
or your recklessness," Welch said. "Let us not assassinate this lad
further, Senator. You have done enough. Have you sense of decency, sir,
at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?"

What to think?

Passages like those make Buckley's book worth reading. And the author
does a good job of explaining the context for the Army hearings,
including his depiction of Roy Cohn, McCarthy's ruthless general
counsel.

But throughout the book, the reader is continually questioning Buckley's
veracity. How, for instance, could Buckley have possibly known about the
dialogue that occurred between Hoover and McCarthy? Yet in interviews
about the book, Buckley says the facts are "true to life" in "every
conventional sense." The reader cannot help 

[CTRL] MI5: The Spycatcher Affair

1999-07-15 Thread Kris Millegan

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from alt.conspiracy
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As always, Caveat Lector.
Om
K
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A HREF="http://www.five.org.uk/security/mi5org/spycatch.htm"MI5: The
Spycatcher Affair
/A
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Book Review of Peter Wright's "Spycatcher"

Spycatcher: The Candid Autobiography of a Senior Intelligence Officer by
Peter Wright, former assistant director of MI5, published in 1987.
Peter Wright joined MI5's A2 branch in 1955 as Principal Scientist; he
served until 1976. Before joining he underwent two days training by John
Cuckney, whom he quotes as saying of MI5's legal status, "It hasn't got
one. The Security Service cannot have the normal status of a Whitehall
department because its work very often involves transgressing propriety
or the law." Cuckney went on to make clear that MI5 operated on the
basis of the 11th commandment - "thou shalt not get caught".
In 1951, Burgess and Maclean defected; in 1955 MI6 sacked Philby, who in
1963 defected from Beirut. Much of Wright's career is in pursuing moles
 in MI5/MI6, in particular he is taken with the theory that Roger Hollis
, former Director-General of MI5, was a Russian mole. He writes of his
early years in counter-espionage, "For five years we bugged and burgled
our way across London at the State's behest, while pompous bowler-hatted
civil servants in Whitehall pretended to look the other way." Wright
says, "the most extensive microphoning operation [we] ever undertook was
in Lancaster House ... which hosted the Colonial conferences of the
1950s and 1960s." He says a "comprehensive microphoning system
throughout the building" was installed and used "throughout the rest of
the 1960s and 1970s, whenever high-level diplomatic negotiations took
place in London."
Wright specialised in "bugging" interception activities of various
shapes and forms. Some of these activities were rapidly discovered and
countered by the Soviets and their allies, which led him to the belief
that a mole within MI5 was at work.
One of Peter Wright's successes was in listening to (i.e. bugging) the
actions of a mechanical cipher machine, in order to break their
encryption. This operation was code-named ENGULF, and enabled MI5 to
read the cipher of the Egyptian embassy in London at the time of the
Suez crisis. Another cipher-reading operation, code-named STOCKADE, read
the French embassy cipher by using the electro-magnetic echoes of the
input teleprinter which appeared on the output of the cipher machine.
Unfortunately, Wright says this operation "was a graphic illustration of
the limitations of intelligence" - Britain was blocked by the French
from joining the Common Market and no amount of bugging could change
that outcome.
Particularly interesting is MI5's invention code-named RAFTER, which is
used to detect the frequency a radio receiver is tuned to, by tracing
emissions from the receiver's local oscillator circuit. RAFTER was used
against the Soviet embassy and consulate in London to detect whether
they were listening in to A4-watcher radios. Wright also used this
technique to try to track down Soviet "illegals" (covert agents) in
London who received their instructions by radio from the USSR.
Central to "Spycatcher" is Wright's theory that there was a mole at the
heart of MI5 for many years, and that the mole was the Director-General
himself, Roger Hollis. This theory was based partly on the reports of
British/US agents in Soviet-bloc countries, and the reports of Soviet
defectors; and partly on the rapid discoveries by the Soviets of actions
against them by MI5. The possibilities were narrowed down to Roger
Hollis and his deputy-DG, Graham Mitchell. The investigation of Mitchell
arrived at no result, and was followed by an internal investigation of
Hollis which also gave no results.
In 1959 the CIA asked Wright about assassination methods; "we're
developing a new capability in the Company to handle these kind of
problems, and we're in the market for the requisite expertise."; to
which he replied that "we'd certainly have that capability but I doubt
we would use it nowadays." MI6 had intended during the Suez crisis to
assassinate Nasser using nerve gas, but their plot had been foiled.
Wright said the SAS "don't freelance", adding, "the French! have you
tried them? It's more their type of thing, you know. Algiers, and so
on." He describes how MI6 developed poisons which were tried on a sheep
at Porton Down; it started "rolling its eyes and frothing at the mouth",
and promptly died.
The core of the book is in Wright's 1960s search for a mole, who would
have been recruited by the Russians thirty years earlier. The book
examines the various people and their inter-relationships from the
1930s, which have relevance to the search for a mole in the 1960s. There
is much reference in the book to the student days of people like Blunt
and their lives as homosexuals, their membership of secret societies
such as the Apostles, etc. One anecdote which was reported in the papers
concerns the allegation that Burgess's 

Re: [CTRL] [[SC] Skeptic News - Wednesday #1]

1999-07-15 Thread Robert Tatman

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"ric carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 # ALIEN PEST CONTROL. The Prophecy Research Institute in California produces
   an audio tape for sale.  What's on it?  Nothing but a high pitched sound.
   The purpose, you ask? Sean Morton, founder of the Institute says it keeps
   away aliens since "they function on a relatively simple,three-level energy
   system, and this overloads their nervous systems".  Works fine, too. ###

 : Are you bothered by infestations of pesky aliens? Are chemical repellents
 smelly, costly, ineffective? Have you tried hissing? Does it drive them off?

Makes me think of the old story about the man sitting on a park bench tearing
up a newspaper and throwing the pieces over his shoulder. A cop comes along
and asks him, "Just what do you think you're doing?" "Keeping the elephants
away." The cop looks around ostentiously. "Elephants? I don't see any
elephants here!" "See?" the man replies, "it works!"

Bob

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[CTRL] Behind the Seersucker Curtain

1999-07-15 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.wweek.com/html/cultfeature.html
A HREF="http://www.wweek.com/html/cultfeature.html"Willamette Week |
Culture Feature
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photo by
George Kelly
Behind the Seersucker Curtain

You've walked by their headquarters and along streets named after their
members. You live in what was--and may still be--their city. But few
outsiders know anything about Portland's private clubs. We opened the
mail slot and took a peek.
BY MATT SCHWARTZ
243-2122


Americans are a friendly breed. We love parties, commerce, war and big
cars. And we're joiners. The American handshake is a joyous, kinetic
event, and it hurts a little bit, because we like to squeeze. When
Alexis de Tocqueville was in between throwing back pints with the likes
of Andrew Jackson, he wrote that an American without drinking buddies
"would be robbed of one half his existence...his wretchedness would be
unbearable."
Not wanting to feel wretched, Portlanders seek out places to be around
people like themselves. Artists scribble away in coffee shops. Hustlers
lounge in pool halls. And rich folks join private clubs. Though it would
make for a more exciting story, Portland clubs aren't exactly
blood-sealed covens of druidic illuminati. Like the rest of us,
steel-haired steel heirs want to drink, play cards, tell dirty jokes and
do favors for their friends. But while one of my favors might involve
swapping a bag of day-old pastries for a bouquet, private club hook-ups
begin with a single malt and end in mergers, plywood sales and campaign
contributions.

For a time, explicit bylaws and tacit understandings excluded Portland
women, blacks and Jews from these private deals. But decades of
agitation by City Council, judges and private citizens have opened up
even Arlington Club, Portland's "supreme bastion of gentile male
chauvinism," according to historian E. Kimbark MacColl's The Shaping of
a City.

They may smell like your attic, but private clubs remain formidable
conglomerates of wealth, connections and power. Will they be around for
much of the next century? Here are our predictions.

Arlington Club
Location: 811 SW Salmon St., at the South Park Blocks.

Founded: 1869, by local alpha males and self-made WASPs. Charter
membership roll includes the names Reed, Macleay, Ladd, Failing and
Cicero H. Lewis (the guy who helped found the Portland Art Museum and
the county library system).

Insignia: Interlocked red "A" and "C" on a white field

Raison d'Être: The club's charter focuses on the "development...social
advantage, improvement and enjoyment" of its members. Arlington once
provided grist for bored society-page columnists, a service now
performed by the Trail Blazers.

Building: The neoclassical, ivy-cloaked brick and spotless alabaster
pillars evoke Monticello, Harvard, the Pantheon and the structural
foresight of the third little pig. Inside, the club offers a wine room,
a card room, a large bar, a formal dining room and several private rooms
for meetings and rest. Business documents are not permitted in public
areas.

Members and Guests: Of the nine Chamber of Commerce Executive Committee
members WW contacted, eight were Arlington members, including the
president of U.S. Bank of Oregon and a senior vice president for
Portland General Electric.

Dirt: Jews were tacitly banned from club membership until the late
1960s, when the feared Chief Judge Gus J. Solomon campaigned against the
policy, allowing prominent attorney Moe Tonkon to join. Women gained
entry in 1990. As recently as 1989, minority Arlington members numbered
less than 3 percent. There are also persistent rumors of a cabinet full
of Playboy.

Cost: The approximately 500 members pay $750 each in annual dues.

Prospects: The recent resurgence of martinis, steaks, cigars, swing
dancing and massive capital gains should preserve the club until 2030,
when colonization of city industries by multinationals finally renders
local deal-making anachronistic. (Recently colonized territory includes
PGE, Blitz Weinhard, The Oregonian and Fred Meyer.)

The University Club
Location: 1225 SW 6th Ave.

Founded: 1898, by college graduates who desired an Oregon equivalent of
East Coast university clubs. Sixteen of the University Club's 56 charter
members were members of Arlington Club.

Insignia: Arlingtonesque union of a "U" and "C"

Raison d'Être: Academic camaraderie and discussion of the day's events.
Possible covert usurpation of Arlington Club.

Building: A superb Jacobethan façade of looming brick and high-arched
windows makes the University Club resemble a spookily large gingerbread
house. The interior, which club manager John Elmore was kind enough to
offer a tour of, is somewhere between a musty rec room and the Musée
d'Orsay. More than 200 individual dice cups decorate the bar so members
can roll for drinks and dinner. A formal dining room with 30-foot
rafters is finished, fittingly, in Oregon 

Re: [CTRL] [[SC] Skeptic News - Wednesday #1]

1999-07-15 Thread Robert Tatman

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"ric carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 : How many alien lifeforms are oozing around you right now that you haven't
 paid attention to before? Do they breed frenetically? Are paperclips aliens?

Ever read "Or All the Seas With Oysters" by Avram Davidson (about 1957)? It's
the story of a man who discovers that there is, in fact, an alien lifeform
existing in our midst--a *mechanical* lifeform... Have you ever noticed that
*you never have both enough paperclips and enough coathangers at the same
time*? And ask any cop...every so often they'll find brand-new, *unclaimed*
bicycles in the parks, ones that no one has reported stolen. What's the
connection? Well, consider this: *what is the only machine that has sexes, and
also comes in both juvenile and adult forms?* That's right--the bicycle! Now
just suppose that there is a form of machine life, with sexes, capable of
reproducing itself: the paperclip is the larva...the coathanger is the
pupa...the bicycle is the adult... Look VERY carefully at that paperclip in
your desk...

Bob, looking over my shoulder cautiously...there's a coathanger in that closet
that's been giving me VERY STRANGE looks every time I go in there...

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[CTRL] [8] The Marcos Dynasty

1999-07-15 Thread Kris Millegan

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An excerpt from:
The Marcos Dynasty
Sterling Seagrave©1988
Harper  Row, Inc
ISBN 0-06-015815-8
-
Seventeen

HEAVY BREATHING

THE OLD FILIPINO GAG "Four centuries in a convent, fifty years in a brothel"
ceased to be a joke under the Marcoses. Behind the facade of maintaining a
puritanical law-and-order regime, Ferdinand was involved with the two main
components of organized crime on the Pacific rim-the Japanese and Chinese
underworld. Gambling, prostitution, narcotics, and money-laundering were
turned over as franchises to international syndicates, sometimes in league
with American, British, and Australian organized crime figures. In the
Philippines, their main interest was slavery.

Control of the media made it possible for Ferdinand to create the impression
of law and order, when in fact organized crime thrived in the islands as
never before. Under martial law, he was as firmly in control in Manila as the
South Korean generals were in Seoul and the Chiang regime in Taipei. An
American official in South Korea once remarked with surprising candor,
"Between the KCIA [Korean CIA], the civil police, and military intelligence,
you've got such a powerful security state here that it's impossible for
organized crime to operate without official sanction. If it exists, it's
state-sponsored or state-sanctioned." The same was true of Taiwan and the
Philippines. The essential difference was ethnic. In Taipei and Seoul,
control was kept firmly in the hands of a single ruling ethnic group, while
in Manila Ferdinand parceled out franchises to Japanese, Koreans, Chinese,
Australians, and Americans according to their specialties. Everybody was
welcome to a piece of the pie.

Manila was the only major Southeast Asian city where the sex trade was run in
partnership with the Japanese, with the enthusiastic cooperation of Chinese
entrepreneurs and Filipino gangsters and procurers.

Ferdinand and Imelda persisted in saying that with their New Society there
was no crime, no drug problem, and no prostitution. All three were officially
illegal, so they did not exist. In truth, prostitution had become world
class. Although Tourism Minister Jose Aspiras would certainly have denied
promoting tourism through prostitution, Manila was competing internationally
with Bangkok as the top destination for sex tours. In each city, it was
modestly estimated that there were one hundred thousand women employed
"legitimately" in what was called the "hospitality industry"—as hostesses,
waitresses, go-go dancers, and massage-parlor attendants. That is, as
prostitutes. These statistics included only those women employed in licensed
establishments, with health permits and regular venereal disease checkups.
The rule of thumb was that at least twice that number-another two hundred
thousand in each metropolitan area-worked freelance, part-time, or in
unlicensed establishments, With a quarter of a million women thus engaged in
each place, the slow incubation of the AIDS virus could produce catastrophic
consequences.

Manila and Bangkok were also rivals for the number of child prostitutes and
young male prostitutes: the estimate for Manila and its satellite towns was
forty thousand child prostitutes against twenty thousand in Bangkok.
Thousands of young boys and girls in each country were sold into slavery each
year, sent off to work without pay in brothels in Japan and South Korea, or
were fed piecemeal to European and Australian gays and pederasts.

A major difference between the sex trade in Thailand and that in the
Philippines was that the one thrived in a country ruled by a succession of
military regimes, making it difficult to identify trends with any one leader
or party, while the other boomed for twenty years under one man-Ferdinand
Marcos.

There were other important differences. In Buddhist Thailand, religious
tolerance and sexual tolerance had been a celebrated part of the culture
since ancient times. There was little stigma attached to the sex trade. When
he was asked about it, the urbane former Prime Minister Kukrit Pramoj
remarked, "I think it is flattering that Westerners find us so physically
attractive." In Thailand, there was no special disgrace attached to working
as a bar girl or in a massage parlor, and after acquiring a wardrobe, a nest
egg, and perhaps a sewing machine, a hardworking bar girl could go back to
her village, marry the son of the headman, and begin life over on a better
footing. In the Catholic Philippines, with its medieval obsessions and its
preoccupation with female virtue, there was no such redemption.

When he was "re-elected" in 1969, President Marcos worked out a partnership
or joint venture in which the sex trade was operated in collaboration with
the big Yakuza gangs such as the Yamaguchi Gumi and the Inagawa Kai.
According to INTERPOL, by the early 1970s more than one hundred thousand
Yakuza were operating in Japan with interests throughout East Asia, making a
profit of well over $5 

Re: [CTRL] [[SC] Skeptic News - Wednesday #1]

1999-07-15 Thread Ric Carter

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- Original Message -
From: Robert Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 "ric carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  # ALIEN PEST CONTROL. The Prophecy Research Institute in California
  produces an audio tape for sale.  What's on it?  Nothing but a high
  pitched sound. The purpose, you ask? Sean Morton, founder of the
  Institute says it keeps away aliens since "they function on a rela-
  tively simple,three-level energy system, and this overloads their
  nervous systems".  Works fine, too. ###
 
  : Are you bothered by infestations of pesky aliens? Are chemical
  repellents smelly, costly, ineffective? Have you tried hissing? Does
  it drive them off?

 Makes me think of the old story about the man sitting on a park bench
 tearing up a newspaper and throwing the pieces over his shoulder. A
 cop comes along and asks him, "Just what do you think you're doing?"
 "Keeping the elephants away." The cop looks around ostentiously.
 "Elephants? I don't see any elephants here!" "See?" the man replies,
 "it works!"

Funny, I thought of exactly the same joke.  Other stuff operating on
the same principle: amulets/exorcisms to drive away demons; wrapping
tinfoil around your snailmail so the FBI can't xray it; "What Would
Jesus Do?"; encrypting innocuous email; feng shui; an umbrella in
Death Valley to stay dry; etc.  But how can one be sure that certain
precautions *work*, like guarding against: CIA mind-control rays;
invisible aliens/elephants/demons; subliminal messages; subversion;
Bilderbergers; incoming asteroids?  Sure, maybe you can't SEE the
danger, or it hasn't struck YET; but, any time now...

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[CTRL] [21] Loud and Clear

1999-07-15 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
Loud and Clear
Lake Headly and William Hoffman©1990
Henry Holt and Company
115 W. 18th St.
New York, NY 10011
ISBN 0-8050-1138-2
272 pps — out-of-print/one edition
--[21]--

21

Adamson Versus Corbin

The supreme court reversal generated movement: Max Dunlap to the less
demeaning conditions of Maricopa County jail, where he awaited his bail
hearing; Jim Robison from death row to the general population at Arizona
State Prison; and John Adamson from a previously undisclosed out-of-state
location to Maricopa County Jail, nearer prosecutors ostensibly urging him to
drop his demands.

In context, how outrageous was Adamson's position? He, at least, had put in
some prison time. Neal Roberts never served a day, thanks to that trade of
theory for immunity, nor had Gail Owens. Immunity-according-to-Arizona (none
for JoDon on a twenty-dollar hash deal, despite the potentially critical
evidence he offered) was a wondrous thing to observe.

Why shouldn't Adamson go for it?

Because, Attorney General Corbin whined, the convicted killer had given his
word to cooperate "fully and completely."

Given his word to lie would have more accurately described the deal, and to
take the Fifth. Prosecutors hadn't uttered a peep at the trial when Adamson's
"full and complete" testimony included refusal to answer questions he didn't
like.

I had to wonder if Schafer and Corbin, wringing their hands, were merely
playacting. Did they sincerely want this case tried again? If police and
prosecutors had conspired in a broad cover up to protect powerful Arizonans,
as gut instinct and vanished evidence told me they had, why should they let
their dirty linen be aired in public?

Certainly Murray Miller wanted it back in court. "Are we ever ready!" he
proclaimed to newsmen. Miller projected the confidence of a fleet admiral
backed by nuclear forces squaring off against a leaky rowboat.

Don W. Harris, the interim Maricopa County attorney originally slated to
prosecute the Bolles murder before being elbowed aside by Bruce Babbitt, now
came forward with an inevitable I-told-you-so. Harris said William Schafer,
working under "a greedy attorney general who wanted to be a U.S. senator,"
had brushed aside his suggestions of Mafia involvement in the killing. He
repeated earlier charges that "a judge, a civic leader, and others" (people
he refused to identify) had pressured him to back off investigations into the
role of organized crime in the Bolles murder.

Was the contest between Adamson and the prosecution a charade to avoid new
trials? I didn't believe Adamson was playing a game, but I suspected Corbin
and Schafer were. Adamson was shrewd enough to realize he faced a buzz saw if
he took the stand again, and his only safeguards were gaining full immunity,
guaranteed immediate release from custody, and a new identity. For these
gigantic concessions, he'd bear the opprobrium of being proved a liar.

Adamson had working for him a most intriguing argument, hotly debated
throughout the Phoenix legal community: that he was being subjected to double
jeopardy. He had already gone to court and been sentenced for murder. Could
he be prosecuted again if he refused to testify? Adamson said no, that since
he had been tried and sentenced once, he had nothing to lose by his refusal
to take the stand again.

On April 15, 1980, the killer appeared to be winning. Corbin went so far as
to offer him new clothes, "improved" confinement, and protection for his
family during the course of a new trial. But immediate release from jail was
too much even for these prosecutors.

On April 18, 1980, at a preliminary bail hearing for Max, Adamson invoked the
Fifth Amendment on thirty-one of thirty-two questions asked by Murray Miller.
The one answer the con man gave: "'What I said at the preliminary hearing [in
1976] was true."

He should have pled self-incrimination on thirty-two of thirty-two, because
he laid himself open to perjury with his one answer. His 1976 preliminary
hearing testimony was full of lies.

The next day Adamson took the Fifth Amendment one hundred and thirty-six
times. Superior Court Judge Robert L. Myers did not order Adamson to answer,
thus saving him from contempt citations.

I couldn't help smiling when I watched Adamson's entrances into the
courtroom, wearing a bulletproof vest and surrounded by four U.S. marshals.
Whom did he fear? "My people [who] don't give immunity''?

Another, vital police report, withheld by the prosecution during the original
trial, surfaced to support this supposition. The document, provided by the
California Department of Justice, concerned a certain Nicolo Angelo
DiVincenzo, described as a "hit man for organized crime" who "allegedly
advised that he had been hired to murder John Adamson, arrested for the
bombing murder of Bolles in June of 1976.

DiVincenzo reportedly stated that he had received the contract to hit Adamson
prior to Adamson's arrest because Adamson was a direct link to 

[CTRL] [9] Inside The League

1999-07-15 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
Inside The League
Scott Anderson and Jon Lee Anderson©1986
Dodd, Mead  Company
79 Madison Avenue
New York, N.Y. 10016
ISBN 0-396-08517-2
322pps — out-of-print/one edition
[re-print/first edition available from:
W. Clement Stone, P M A Communications, Incorporated]
--[9]--

NINE

Victory over communism first. World peace second.
-Juanita Castro,
1970 WACL conference

AT THE 1979 World Anti-Communist League conference in Asuncion, the
international ultra-right finally completed its global journey. Through the
League, all the disparate elements from every corner of the earth were
united, joined for the stated purpose of opposing Marxism in all its forms.
While they differed on the form of the threat facing them, they all profited
from the association.

For many members of the League, its conferences were nothing more than
junkets, a way to escape the heat of Manila or the rainy season in Ghana, to
stay in a luxurious hotel and to get their names mentioned in the local paper
upon returning. But for others, participation in the League had tangible
benefits. Above all else, by 1979 the League had become a means by which
governments or private groups could maintain links or coordinate actions with
others that, for political or ideological reasons, could not be maintained or
coordinated in an official, public capacity.

By 1979, at least eight major power groups could be identified within the
World Anti-Communist League. Some were the traditional leaders who had formed
the League to begin with, but new power blocs had also emerged.

TAIWAN

By the late 1970s, as one nation after another dropped recognition of the
Republic of China on Taiwan in favor of the People's Republic of China on the
mainland, the members of the Kuomintang found themselves with a vastly
diminished circle of friends. They could no longer pick and choose their
allies- they had to accept whoever would accept them. And they accepted them
in the apartheid regimes of South Africa and Rhodesia, in the right-wing
dictatorships of Latin America, and in the Nazi collaborator bands of Western
Europe and the United States.

The World Anti-Communist League had become one of the last major instruments
of foreign policy for the Kuomintang, and they could not afford to let it
languish. For them, the stated aim of the League—international
anti-communism—had quite suddenly become secondary to the greater cause of
simply retaining relations with whatever nations or groups they could.

KOREA

Although it was a military dictatorship at least as repressive as that of
Taiwan, South Korea did not share Taiwan's international loss of diplomatic
recognition. What it did have by 1979 was a faltering economy in a world that
no longer saw it as an indispensable bastion against communism. Although the
League served as an excellent podium for the regime to continue its
denunciation of North Korean intrigues, another benefit, a commercial one,
had emerged.

Through relationships struck at League conferences, South Korea became one of
the principal arms suppliers to South and Central America. The man who led
this campaign was retired South Korean Air Force Colonel Shin Chan. Shin
Chan, who attended several League conferences, was also the executive
director of the South Korean Association for Promotion of War Industry.

THE UNIFICATION CHURCH

Theoretically, the Unification Church left the League in 1975 when the
Reverend Sun Myung Moon denounced it as a "fascist" organization.
Nevertheless, the Japanese Unification Church, the Church's largest and most
powerful branch, continued to be the Japanese World Anti-Communist League
chapter, and the Church and the League cooperated in many joint operations
throughout the world.

Just as Reverend Moon's operations were myriad, so, too, were the payoffs he
received from his involvement in the League. His organization apparently has
three major functions: as a church, as a money laundry, and as an agent for
the South Korean government. It was able to facilitate each of these
activities through its League affiliation.

Relationships nurtured with right-wing Latin Americans in the League led to
acceptance of the Church's political and propaganda operations throughout
Latin America. From the theological-political standpoint, Latin America is
the Moonies' "Promised Land" the more the Latin right denounces Catholicism
as being riddled with Marxism, the more attractive the nationalistic
anti-communist dogma of the Unification Church appears to be. No doubt Moon
dreams about the influence—and money—that would come from millions of Latin
Americans turning their backs on Catholicism in favor of Unificationism.

As an international money laundry, through the World AntiCommunist League and
its own operations, the Church tapped into the capital flight havens of Latin
America. Escaping the scrutiny of American and European investigators, the
Church could now funnel money into banks in Honduras, Uruguay, and 

Re: [CTRL] [[SC] Skeptic News - Wednesday #1]

1999-07-15 Thread Ric Carter

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- Original Message -
From: Robert Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 "ric carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  : How many alien lifeforms are oozing around you right now that you
  haven't paid attention to before? Do they breed frenetically? Are
  paperclips aliens?

 Ever read "Or All the Seas With Oysters" by Avram Davidson (about 1957)?

Sure - that's why I mentioned paperclips.  Also consider rubberbands.

 Have you ever noticed that *you never have both enough paperclips and
 enough coathangers at the same time*? And ask any cop...every so often
 they'll find brand-new, *unclaimed* bicycles in the parks, ones that
 no one has reported stolen.

Then there are the many bikes that totally vanish, as if... abducted...

 What's the connection? Well, consider this: *what is the only machine
 that has sexes, and also comes in both juvenile and adult forms?*
 That's right--the bicycle! Now just suppose that there is a form of
 machine life, with sexes, capable of reproducing itself: the paperclip
 is the larva...the coathanger is the pupa...the bicycle is the adult...
 Look VERY carefully at that paperclip in your desk...

I've switched to plastic paperclips, I'm not sure what *they* meta-
morphose into.  And as the host organism of a parasitic semi'bent, I
must point out the existence of many species of HPVs [Human Powered
Vehicles]: mono-  bi-  tri-  quadri-cycles; upright ["wedgies"],
semi- and fully-recumbent ["'bents"]; zero-to-many seats; water- and
air-borne variants, and even some subs.  The ardent researcher will
seek to identify the larval and pupal forms of each species.  My
highly-evolved BikeE semi'bent  http://www.bikee.com  comes from
a far different galaxy than a Huffy http://www.huffy.com  bomber.

And note that old-style bikes HAD overwhelmed the Chinese Communist
Empire; but the transition to Red Capitalism has lead to a surge in
automobiles and a drastic drop in the bike population.  What alien
dominance games are being played out here?  Are HPV invaders digging
strong beachheads in North America and Europe while being thrown back
from the rest of the world?  What's the Chinese paperclip situation?
Does the advent of plastic paperclips spell the doom of bicycles?

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Re: [CTRL] The Jewish Establishment by Joseph Sobran

1999-07-15 Thread IdeaNetw

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In a message dated 7/14/99 9:57:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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 http://www.flinet.com/~politics/aipac/sobran2.htm


"Americans ought to be free to discuss Jewish power and Jewish
  interests frankly, without being accused of denying the rights of Jews.
That
  should go without saying. The truth is both otherwise and unmentionable."
  --- Joseph Sobran
  --

  "The Jewish Establishment"
  by
  Joseph Sobran


In the early 1930s, Walter Duranty of the New York Times was in
  Moscow, covering Joe Stalin the way Joe Stalin wanted to be covered. To
  maintain favor and access, he expressly denied that there was famine in the
  Ukraine even while millions of Ukrainian Christians were being starved into
  submission. For his work Duranty won the Pulitzer Prize for journalism. To
  this day, the Times remains the most magisterial and respectable of
American
  newspapers.

Now imagine that a major newspaper had had a correspondent in Berlin
  during roughly the same period who hobnobbed with Hitler, portrayed him in
a
  flattering light, and denied that Jews were being mistreated - thereby not
  only concealing, but materially assisting the regime's persecution. Would
  that paper's respectability have been unimpaired several decades later?

Gee, what an inappropriate analogy.  The truth of the matter is that the news
media of Hitler's era, both domestic and worldwide, as well as the political
establishments and the intelligence and foreign services of the times all
actively and passively concealed and underreported the existence and extent
of the holocaust until well into the 1940's with the full extent of the Nazi
activities not becoming publicly known until after the end of the war.  The
New York Times was as guilty of this as the rest of the American press.

See the book Beyond Belief : The American Press and the Coming of the
Holocaust, 1933-1945 by Deborah E. Lipstadt (1993)

Jack Abrams

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Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Brave New World]

1999-07-15 Thread Robert Tatman

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Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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   Huxley's hatcheries
   By MICHAEL R. ALIX
   TMNS Technology Editor
  
   Aldous Huxley ...did write at least one science fiction book,
   Brave New World (1932). That was almost seventy years ago, when
   bio-engineering was just a glint in a scientist's eye. Today,
   the hatcheries of Brave New World are closer to reality.
   While we endure the growth of the Internet, we look to its
   generational cousin as a work of horror, Frankenstein's hobby
   revisited, and wonder where it will lead.

 As usual, fear-mongers invoke FRANKENSTEIN without having read
 the bloody book - or maybe they're just anxious to misappropriate
 a metaphor once again.  Mary Shelly's FRANKENSTEIN was NOT about
 the arrogance and misapplication of science; Victor Frankenstein
 was NOT a mad scientist/doctor and did NOT use science to raise
 the dead.  Rather, Victor was a failed former medical student who
 abandoned science when it didn't fulfill his spiritual quest, and
 turned to MAGIC to animate the dead.  His 'creature', his virtual
 son, then so disgusted him that he ran off.  The book is about
 abandonment, about refusal to take personal responsibility for
 one's actions.  When you hear a speaker link FRANKENSTEIN with
 alleged misdeeds of science, prepare yourself for a twisty ride
 along the Luddite path - more distortions are sure to follow.

Shelly's *Frankenstein* was essentially a reworking of the story of the Golem,
intertwined with some of the Christian Kabbalah and ceremonial magic. It does
have a certain kinship to Blake's "Tyger, Tyger" with its dark vision of the
Industrial Revolution. (Think of a blast furnace...) But the Romantics were
not particularly interested in science, even to condemn it; their interest was
indeed in the spiritual quest, by whatever means came to hand...

Bob

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[CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Brave New World]

1999-07-15 Thread Ric Carter

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- Original Message -
From: Robert Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Aldous Huxley ...did write at least one science fiction book,
Brave New World (1932). That was almost seventy years ago, when
bio-engineering was just a glint in a scientist's eye. Today,
the hatcheries of Brave New World are closer to reality.
While we endure the growth of the Internet, we look to its
generational cousin as a work of horror, Frankenstein's hobby
revisited, and wonder where it will lead.
 
  As usual, fear-mongers invoke FRANKENSTEIN without having read
  the bloody book - or maybe they're just anxious to misappropriate
  a metaphor once again.  Mary Shelly's FRANKENSTEIN was NOT about
  the arrogance and misapplication of science; ...
  When you hear a speaker link FRANKENSTEIN with
  alleged misdeeds of science, prepare yourself for a twisty ride
  along the Luddite path - more distortions are sure to follow.
 
 Shelly's *Frankenstein* was essentially a reworking of the story
 of the Golem, intertwined with some of the Christian Kabbalah and
 ceremonial magic. It does have a certain kinship to Blake's "Tyger,
 Tyger" with its dark vision of the Industrial Revolution. (Think
 of a blast furnace...) But the Romantics were not particularly
 interested in science, even to condemn it; their interest was
 indeed in the spiritual quest, by whatever means came to hand...

My point [however ineptly expressed] was that FRANKENSTEIN has
become a code-word, usually followed by bogus assertions and
arguments.  Similarly, code-words representing Jews, Blacks,
Asians and other groups, often preceded by 'The' [ie, The Jews,
The International Bankers, The Media, The Eastern Establishment,
The Communists, The Welfare Queens, The Chinese], should serve as
warning flags that bogosity/demagoguery is forthcoming.

And Mary Shelly's referring to 'electricity' in FRANKENSTEIN was
akin to modern NewAgers usurping the 'quantum' label to attach
to their fantasies - quantum consciousness, etc.  Grab a glitzy
'scientific' buzzword and apply it out of context.  But I digress.

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[CTRL] Fwd: Y2K Conspiracy Goes Mainstream

1999-07-15 Thread Kris Millegan







Y2K Conspiracy Goes Mainstream
by Declan McCullagh
3:00 a.m.  15.Jul.99.PDT

WASHINGTON -- For many Y2K fanatics, the scariest threat on 1 January 2000 is
not technology at all. It's the far more sinister specter of a power-mad
president imposing martial law.

Dark visions of U.S. Marines stomping through backyards on New Year's Eve
1999 are a staple of innumerable Y2K discussion groups.  A typical post:
"There is nothing secret about the fact [that the] US, UK and Canada are
preparing for martial law."

These sorts of ruminations are no longer the sole domain of fringe conspiracy
buffs.  They got a boost Wednesday from a conference hosted by the staid U.S.
Reserve Officers Association, an eminently respectable organization that
Congress chartered in 1920.

During the full-day meeting, titled "National Conference on Presidential
Powers and Executive Orders," and organized by an anti-UN advocacy group,
legislators and lawyers warned that President Clinton could see Y2K
disruptions as a convenient excuse to call out the troops and declare martial
law.

"President Clinton might take that opportunity?" asked an audience member
from Concerned Women for America.

"That is my fear," replied Representative Jack Metcalf (R-Washington).  "It
seems to me that the only emergency that we might see coming is the Y2K.
[With] a power-hungry president, who knows what he might do."

Conference organizer Cliff Kincaid agreed: "It appears we don't have a
President anymore. We have a king."  Kincaid is head of America's Survival,
which is devoted to combating global organizations in general and the UN in
particular.

Attendees seemed suitably scared. There was Carolyn Betts, who was reading
"The Day After Roswell," a fictional account of the U.S. government's coverup
of a UFO incident.  She told Wired News she suspected a clandestine agency
had bombarded her Dupont Circle office in Washington, D.C. with
high-frequency audio.  "Both the people and the dogs had diarrhea," she said,
adding that the masonry had started to crumble.

For real Y2K conspiracy fans, the highlight of the day was a presentation by
William Olsen, a lawyer at a McLean, Virginia, law firm.

"We're headed on the road to tyranny," he said.

Olsen declined to predict whether martial law -- or similar restrictions,
such as military courts, seizure of private property, and suspension of
normal due-process rights -- would definitely happen due to Y2K.

But he did distribute to the 30-person audience a 27-page legal document he
had coauthored.  It shows, in exhaustive detail, that whoever occupies the
Oval Office has near limitless power to declare emergencies and call out the
troops, as President Wilson did in 1914 when he ordered the Army into
Colorado with orders to disarm all residents and even police.

Could it happen again?  Quite possibly, Olsen said. "One wonders what the
reaction will be next time."

There have been earlier signs that some Washingtonians are considering an
aggressive response to Y2K.

Senator Robert Bennett, the Utah Republican who chairs the Senate Y2K task
force, has asked the Pentagon what plans it has "in the event of a
Y2K-induced breakdown of community services that might call for martial law,"
and a House subcommittee has recommended that President Clinton consider
declaring a Y2K "national emergency."

Like Olsen, other conference-goers cited history as evidence that martial law
could go into effect.  They pointed to President Lincoln, who usurped
constitutional authority in well-chronicled ways.

During the Civil War and Reconstruction, Lincoln's government arrested and
tried civilians in military and civilian courts, ignoring rules of habeas
corpus.  This led to the passage of the Posse Comitatus Act, which restricts
using the military for domestic law enforcement.

Lincoln's justification was the inherent power of the commander-in-chief and
his duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully Executed."

When it comes to the use of troops to restore order during riots, however,
the President can suspend the Posse Comitatus Act with the stroke of a pen.
The law doesn't cover soldiers deployed as authorized by the Constitution or
exempted from the act by statute.

Further, some worry that courts may not be willing to confront the military
during a time of genuine crisis. "A court may simply avoid deciding an
important constitutional question in the midst of a war," Supreme Court Chief
Justice William Rehnquist wrote in All the Laws but One.

All the more reason to limit presidential authority, especially executive
orders, says Congressman Metcalf. "The President's use of executive orders
and proclamations is reckless," he said.

Metcalf has introduced a nonbinding resolution that says, "It is the sense of
the Congress" that executive orders be curtailed.  He said he has 71
co-sponsors, including House Judiciary committee chairman Representative
Henry Hyde (R-Illinois).




Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] [[SC] Skeptic News - Wednesday #1]]

1999-07-15 Thread Robert Tatman

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"Ric Carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  Have you ever noticed that *you never have both enough paperclips and
  enough coathangers at the same time*? And ask any cop...every so often
  they'll find brand-new, *unclaimed* bicycles in the parks, ones that
  no one has reported stolen.

 Then there are the many bikes that totally vanish, as if... abducted...

Or...harvested? Is Earth nothing more than a bicycle breeding facility for
alien yuppies?

Bob

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #1

1999-07-15 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990715a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Hey, SkeptiChat subscribers: let's see some responses, some discussion!!
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: No black helicopters were sighted during the production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# MOON'S LAST VISITOR SPINS TALE OF GUTS, GLORY AND LOSS. Nearly 27 years
  after Gene Cernan scaled the LM ladder, looked below at his boot-prints
  etched in the lunar dust, and above, at our stunning blue planet suspended
  in the "three dimensional" blackness, Cernan wants to be remembered as
  someone who was there at the start of something bold and audacious -- not
  the end an glorious era. But those glory days are over. Now it's just the
  robots and extraterrestrials: http://cnn.com/TECH/space/9907/14/downlinks/

: Has Luna been abandoned to Reptilioids, Nazis and astronauts' ghosts? Will
we be able to take it back? Have you bought any real estate there yet? Why?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Are Endocrine  Disruptors a Threat to Your Health? For years, researchers
  have investigated the theory that trace levels of industrial chemicals are
  hazardous to human health. Although studies have failed to establish a
  causal relationship, some scientists and activist groups continue to blame
  trace levels of synthetic chemicals for human illness. Read the executive
  summary of the American Council on Science and Health's Special Report:
  http://www.drkoop.com/healthnews/special-reports/acsh/july/endocrine.html

: Are you easily poisoned? Is your toxic environment accidental, deliberate,
inevitable? Who controls the toxicity? Why are they doing this? Why else??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Cautious go-ahead for gene testing at work. (BBC) Employers should be
  allowed to test for genetically inherited conditions, but only under
  certain restrictions, according to a UK government advisory body.
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_395000/395012.stm

# Also: Genetic test boom warning:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_233000/233473.stm
# Children 'need to learn about genetics':
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_194000/194783.stm
@ Links: Advisory Commission report: http://www.dti.gov.uk/ost/ostbusiness/
@ Human Genetics Advisory Commission: http://www.dti.gov.uk/hgac/
@ Sickle cell http://sicklecellsociety.org/employme.htm#anchor117932

: Do you want to test your workers' DNA? Would you keep samples? Would you
grow clones of the best workers? Would they be ideal for enslavement? Why?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Space race amateurs 'not giving up'. A rocket built by a group of amateur
  space enthusiasts has disintegrated on its launch pad during an abortive
  take-off. But the two men behind the White Rose project, which blew up on
  the North York Moors on Thursday morning, say they'll try again. Pip-pip.
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_395000/395277.stm

: Have aliens/Russians/demons interfered with your rocket launches lately?
Will you persevere? Will individuals ever wrest control of space from Them?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Y2K Conspiracy Goes Mainstream. WASHINGTON -- For many Y2K fanatics, the
  scariest threat on 1 January 2000 is not technology at all. It's the far
  more sinister specter of a power-mad president imposing martial law. Dark
  visions of US Marines stomping through backyards on New Year's Eve 1999
  are a staple of innumerable Y2K yakk groups. A typical post: "There is
  nothing secret about the fact [that the] US, UK and Canada are preparing
  for martial law." They just got a boost from a confab held by the staid US
  Reserve Officers Association, an eminently respectable group that Congress
  chartered in 1920. http://wired.com/news/news/politics/story/20751.html

: Are you ready for the putsch? Will it be worldwide, or just in the West?
Are the black helicopters fueled, armed, waiting? Can/will you run, hide?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

From: "Hilary A. Thomas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

# If the case for extraterrestrial life were put to a jury, it'd likely be
  out for less than 5 minutes before returning the verdict that we are not
  alone. No one expects ET to come knocking on the door of 1600 Pennsylvania
  Ave. But recent findings, including discovering of the first solar system
  other than our own, convince leading scientists that life probably exists
  on surfaces and in oceans of distant planets and moons, maybe even in the
  void of space. http://popularmechanics.com/popmech/sci/9907STSPAP.html

# The end of the world is nigh! (again). The world has, it seems, survived
  Nostradamus's predicted apocalypse on the 4th of July this year; but the
  Universe is still a dangerous place to live. When some stars get old, they
  explode as supernovae - and you DON'T want to be near one. A supernova in
  our galactic backyard might 

[CTRL] Taliban refuses to extradite or expel Bin Laden from Afghanistan

1999-07-15 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

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Taliban refuses to extradite or expel Bin Laden from Afghanistan
Copyright © 1999 Nando Media
Copyright © 1999 Associated Press
For more about Africa, visit Africa News Online.

CAIRO, Egypt (July 15, 1999 6:28 a.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) -
Afghanistan's fundamentalist Taliban movement will neither expel suspected
terrorist Osama Bin Laden from Afghanistan nor hand him over to the United
States, its spokesman was quoted as saying Thursday.

But Maulvi Wakil Muttawakil told the Arabic daily Ash Sharq Al-Awsat that
Bin Laden, who is in hiding in Afghanistan, is under strict surveillance by
Taliban intelligence "to be sure that he is not carrying out illegal acts."


"We will not initiate his extradition to any party and will not force him
to leave Afghanistan," Muttawakil said in an interview while on a visit to
the United Arab Emirates.

Washington has asked the Taliban to hand over or at least expel bin Laden
so that he can stand trial for his alleged role in last August's U.S.
embassy bombings in East Africa.

The Clinton Administration has imposed sanctions on the Taliban for
harboring bin Laden. The embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania killed 224
people, including 12 Americans.

Washington has also put bin Laden, a Saudi exile, on the FBI's 10 Most
Wanted List and offered a $5 million reward for information leading to his
arrest.

Muttawkil indicated that the Taliban government has withdrawn its earlier
offer to investigate bin Laden if Washington provides enough evidence
against him.

"We gave them the chance, but by offering the reward they closed that
door," he said
The Taliban religious army rules roughly 90 percent of Afghanistan and the
opposition, comprised of ethnic and religious minorities, controls the
remaining 10 percent. The two sides are fighting on several fronts in
northern Afghanistan.

Last year, the Taliban Supreme Court conducted an inquiry against bin Laden
and cleared him of all the charges because the United States did not
provide proof of his involvement in the African bombings.

http://www.nandotimes.com/global/story/0,1024,70613-111602-792198-0,00.html

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Re: [CTRL] Ballard, Lusitania, committing US to WWI

1999-07-15 Thread nessie

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Don't hope for any of the insideous skulduggery going on behind the scenes
today to even begin to be owned up to till well into the twenty second
century, particularly by the Brits. They're a closed mouth bunch, the guys
who own Britian.  If I'd  done the things they've done I'd shut my trap
too. They are liars par exelance. Lies, a Churchill admitted, are their
bodyguards. They've even gone so far as to falsify a dictionary  entry to
hide who the Luddites REALLY were and why they had more troops fighting
Luddites in Nottingham than they had fighting Napoleon in Spain, and that
was during Napoleon's era. They've till haven't admitted their troops held
Irish babies aloft on bayonets and used them for target practice, and that
was Cromwell's era and there were tens of thousand of witnesses. They
were, in fact, under Cromwell's direct command. As for the Lusitania, if
you imagine they would let it be revealed that they had their own people
slaughtered  in their own front yard, just to bring American troops over
to save their ass from a war they were losing so few years ago that
witnesses still are alive, you are hopelessly nieve. Ain't gonna happen.
Period. End of story. Blood from a turnip? maybe. But the truth out of
Britian? When hell freezes over. Maybe.

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[CTRL] Fwd(2): LRNA Statement on Micro Radio

1999-07-15 Thread nessie

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League of Revolutionaries condemns attack on Micro-radio!

Press Release:
7-11-99
For Immediate Release:
The League of Revolutionaries for a New America
 Contact: Sandi Reid
 1-800-691-6888

League of Revolutionaries condemns attack on Micro-radio!

The League of Revolutionaries for a New America condemns the government's
attack on Micro-power Radio.
Micro-Power radio has become one of the last opportunities for communities
to access electronic media and provide community access to the airwaves.

The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has agreed to look at changing
it's regulations to provide for a Low Power FM category (LPFM) and since
that time the FCC has increased it's efforts to shut down Micro-Power
stations across the country.
In some cases armed SWAT Teams have been used and even stations that have
been serving their communities for years, if not decades have been
targeted.
Including Black Liberation Radio in Illinois and MicroKIND Radio in San
Marcos Texas.

Since the so-called Tele-Communications Reform bill passed, media
(especially radio outlets) has been concentrated into fewer and fewer large
corporate hands.
The National Association of Broadcasters (NAB) has pushed the FCC to shut
down as many Micro-Power radio stations as possible. The corporate media in
the US and for that matter worldwide want no challenges to their domination
of the flow of information. These media conglomerates exist to forward the
agenda of the Capitalist ruling class and do so by excluding news, voices
and stories that go against their interests.

The battle for media access takes on added importance as a result of the
struggles at the Pacifica Network. Pacifica, long a beacon for free speech
is currently fighting for it's own life. This could close access to a very
important venue for freedom of communication, making the need for "Free
Radio" even more important!

LRNA asks all people of conscience to step forward and demand that the
federal government and the NAB cease their attacks on Micro-Radio Stations
and follow through on regulatory changes that will provide for democratic
access to the airwaves.

Speakers on this as well as on other topics are available.
Contact Sandi Reid (Speakers for a New America) 1-800-691-6888
Or contact: Mike Thornton
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[CTRL] Why KPFA and WBAI have been targeted by the US government

1999-07-15 Thread Steve Wingate

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From: Ken McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: KPFA: It gets worse

PLEASE FORWARD

July 14, 1999

More info:  http://www.savepacifica.net

* Why KPFA and WBAI have been targeted by the US government
* An eyewitness account of the armed censoring of KPFA
* What you can do
* Beware of "incidents"  - VERY IMPORTANT for people planning
to attend protests

- Why KPFA and WBAI have been targeted by the US government

Some people not familiar with Pacifica have asked what KPFA
and WBAI broadcast.  I can answer this from first hand experience.

When I lived in New York in the 1980s, I was a frequent WBAI listener.
WBAI was the *only* source of information on the US-sponsored atrocities
in Central America as they were happening, atrocities Clinton admitted to
over a decade later (200,000 killed in Guatemala alone by US-trained death
squads and military)

WBAI also was the only source of comprehensive and comprehensible
information on the arms-drugs-terror network organized during the
Reagan administration which involved sending weapons to Iran (a
US enemy), cocaine to the United States, and training and support for the
terror campaign in Nicaragua which, like US bombing in Iraq and
Yugoslavia, targeted civilians and basic social and economic
infrastructure. This reporting took place in the 1980s.

WBAI broadcast the entire Iran/Contra Gate hearings live.  Larry
Bensky (banned from KPFA) and Dennis Bernstein (pulled off
the air last night by armed guards) provided the only real-time,
informed and intelligent commentary on these hearings and their
significance available anywhere in the US broadcast world.

Just a few of the stories KPFA and WBAI has aired in depth
over the years:

The massive drug operation run out of the Mena airport during Clinton's
term as governor of Arkansas; Hillary Clinton's involvement with SL fraud
and the INSLAW fraud; the CIA-enabled, Contra-run enterprise to import
tons of cocaine to the US;  the ongoing US-engineered holocaust in Iraq.
KPFA and WBAI has consistently covered material, in significant detail,
that no other broadcast unit in the US and very, very few print outlets
have been willing to tackle.

And now they are being taken off the air by a Clinton appointee
aided by armed thugs in the employ of a company managed
by former intelligence operatives

- An eyewitness account

"I ran into Larry Bensky at about 4:30 PM near KPFA. Larry said that Lynn
Chadwick had issued another stern warning that anyone talking about
Pacifica affairs on the air would be fired immediately (this after Media
Alliance released the internal memo from Micheal Palmer indicating that
the board is in active negotiation to sell the network's assets a day
after MF Berry firmly denied that any sale was in the works at her
invitation-only news conference yesterday.) Pacifica had brought in the
station manager from the Houston station which has already been sanitized,
as Rafael Ramirez has documented, and he was ready to gag anyone who who
violated Chadwick's order.

Dennis Bernstein did, of course, in the last 20 minutes of "Flashpoints."
He not only ran news of the memo, but aired a statement in support of KPFA
by Mumia and another (one of a series being done by notables around the
country) by Scoop Nisker.Shortly after 6, Bernstein's newscast was
interrupted; it was clear that the guards had come in to remove him from
the newsroom. The station went silent.

This was heard all over Northern California. I went down immediately.
Others heard it on their car radios and also went to the station. When I
got there, the front doors were open and a number of people got in the
front corridor but were stopped at the lobby by Berkeley police. More
people arrived and the police eventually closed off Martin Luther King,
Jr. Way. People were furious and shouting "Shame" and "It's OUR station".
The local media got into the station with vid-cameras and got some
footage. Eventually, the Berkeley police chief announced that if people
didn't leave, they would be arrested for trespassing and sent to the
county jail at Santa Rita. Many people (including a couple in their 80s
that I saw) chose to be arrested.

A growing and angry crowd moved to the rear of the bldg as police began
bringing people out in handcuffs and putting them into a black mariah.
More people kept arriving, and so did police in riot gear. There was a
great deal of angry shouting, and near-riot conditions, though Channel 5
reported that the crowd threw rocks at the police, and that was a lie. I
left before 9, but the 11 PM news said that hundreds were still down there
and were prepared to spend the night.

Well, it seems that the events of the past month or so were not
accidental. The security guards are from a company that specializes in
hostile takeovers, and that is what has happened and what was probably
planned. It appears that there will now be a lockout of staff members;
Pacifica has seized the station and will try to reprogram it or to 

[CTRL] HAARP: PROBING THE NORTHERN LIGHTS

1999-07-15 Thread Robert Tatman

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http://popularmechanics.com/popmech/sci/9907STRSP.html

HAARP: PROBING THE NORTHERN LIGHTS
BY JIM WILSON

 The single most contentious question in science at the end of the 20th
century isn't about evolution, the origin of the universe or human cloning,
but, "What is the government really up to near Gakona, Alaska?"

Officially, this 33-acre gravel pad near the Tok Highway 180 miles northeast
of Anchorage is the home of the high-frequency active auroral research program
(HAARP). Depending upon who you ask for a more detailed description, HAARP is
either a futuristic weapon, a scientific research project, a global mind
control scheme–rivaling network TV–or the cause of a reptilian invasion from
another dimension.

In addition to its real  functions–which we will get to in a moment–HAARP has
replaced the magic-pellet gasoline substitute as the great techno-legend of
our time. (The magic pellet, by the way, is actually calcium carbide. It
reacts with water to produce acetylene that will fuel an internal combustion
engine, at least until the corrosive exhaust eats through the cylinder walls.)


HAARP is not quite as easy to explain as magic fuel pellets. Part of the
reason is that it is involved in a fairly complicated area of research.
Operated by the Air Force Research Laboratory's Space Vehicles Directorate, it
houses what is perhaps the most impressive collection of ionosphere research
instruments ever assembled. If you are a physicist who explores this region 25
to 500  miles above sea level, you couldn't ask for a better-equipped lab.

So large an investment in so remote a location logically raises the question:
Why? For the same reason that Willie Sutton hung out around banks. Because of
its far northerly latitude–well into northern lights country–Gakona is an
excellent vantage point for studying the ionosphere.

We sit at the bottom of a gaseous sea of dense, electrically neutral gases.
This familiar situation changes as we rise into the sky. At higher altitudes,
the air becomes less dense. This means the radiation from the sun has less
atmosphere to penetrate. Being more energetic, it strips gas molecules of
their electrons, turning them into the ions for
which this region is named, the ionosphere.

The presence of ions and electrons in this layer causes electromagnetic
radiation from man-made sources to be absorbed, reflected and distorted.
The absorptive and reflective characteristics of the ionosphere are the reason
why amplitude-modulated radio broadcasts that can be heard within only a few
tens of miles from their transmitters during the day can be heard thousands of
miles away at night. The ionosphere's ability to distort signals can produce
effects that are downright spooky. Consider the "Luxembourg effect," which
sent shivers down the spines of international radio listeners in 1933. "In
this case a weak Swiss radio station appeared to be modulated with signals
from the powerful Luxembourg station, which was transmitting at a completely
different frequency. Music from the Luxembourg station was picked up at the
frequency of the Swiss station," explains a Department of Defense (DOD)
spokesman.

The Pentagon isn't interested in explaining mysteries from the early days of
radio. "The continual growth in the number of civilian and military
satellite systems whose performance depends on paths passing through the
ionosphere, encourages not only good characterization and monitoring of
the ionospheric state, but also an examination of what controlled local
modification of the ionosphere, using ground [high-frequency] transmitters,
could do for and to these systems," says the DOD.

HAARP Science

Creating that "controlled local modification of the ionosphere" is what the
HAARP project is all about. To do this, HAARP team researchers are using a
high-power, high-frequency phased array radio transmitter known as the
Ionospheric Research Instrument (IRI) to heat pockets of the ionosphere.

It will do this by transmitting a narrow beam of high-power radio signals in
the 2.8- to 10-MHz frequency range.

The antennas needed to beam this energy are enormous. Sitting on a gravel pad,
they cover 33 acres with 180 72-ft. towers. The towers are
spaced 80 ft. apart, forming a rectangular grid (see photo above). Each tower
supports two pairs of crossed dipole antennas. One antenna is tuned to
transmit at between 2.8 and 7 MHz. Its companion transmitter at between 7 and
10 MHz. An elevated ground screen acts as a reflector. It is raised
about 15 ft. off the ground to allow truck access to 30 transmitter shelters.
According to DOD documents, each contains six pairs of 10-kilowatt
transmitters. Operating together, they deliver 3600 kilowatts to the antenna
network.

The signal transmitted from the network of antennas travels upward and is
partially absorbed. This heats a pocket of air about 30 miles in diameter
and a few hundred yards thick directly over the facility. The remainder of the
signal is 

Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Brave New World]]

1999-07-15 Thread Robert Tatman

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Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My point [however ineptly expressed] was that FRANKENSTEIN has
 become a code-word, usually followed by bogus assertions and
 arguments.  Similarly, code-words representing Jews, Blacks,
 Asians and other groups, often preceded by 'The' [ie, The Jews,
 The International Bankers, The Media, The Eastern Establishment,
 The Communists, The Welfare Queens, The Chinese], should serve as
 warning flags that bogosity/demagoguery is forthcoming.

 And Mary Shelly's referring to 'electricity' in FRANKENSTEIN was
 akin to modern NewAgers usurping the 'quantum' label to attach
 to their fantasies - quantum consciousness, etc.  Grab a glitzy
 'scientific' buzzword and apply it out of context.  But I digress.

Your point wasn't ineptly expressed. I was going off on a tangent.
"Frankenstein" has indeed become a code word for "evil, amoral, bad'n'nasty
science"...and has acquired much the image that Godzilla was intended to have
in the original movie, before the lovable lizard became a folk hero (at least
in Japan). Perhaps someone should write up a glossary of Conspiracy Theory
Code Words and Catch Phrases. (Actually, isn't there an alt.conspiracy FAQ?)

A related tangent: There is a sort of penumbra where the occult and science
overlap; indeed, it can be argued (see Keith Thomas, *Religion and the Decline
of Magic*) that this is precisely where science in the modern sense was born.
Crowley observed that "Magick, mysticism, and mathematics are triplets"--that
is, the magician (=scientist) seeks to *control and manipulate* the Thing in
questions; the mystic seeks to *experience* it; the mathematician seeks to
*describe* it. Or, as Robert Jastrow says in *God and the Astronomers*, the
cosmologists and astrophysicists have been struggling up a very large mountain
for a very long time, and have finally reached the summit, only to discover a
band of philosophers and theologians waiting for them...

(Hmm. That didn't go in the direction I expected it to. Oh well.)

Bob

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[CTRL] Test Only

1999-07-15 Thread piper

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: [InTheShadows] The FBI and Flight 800 A MissileExpert Cries Cover-Up

1999-07-15 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

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 From: MJ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: [InTheShadows] The FBI and Flight 800  A
MissileExpert Cries Cover-Up
 Date: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 12:55 PM

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 Hmmm...

 What about a malfunctioned naval missile? (or a failed test exercise off
 coastal waters?) I am sure the military has plenty of countermeasures and
 procedural protocol to safeguard against this sort of thing, but couldnt
it
 be possible?

That this was an accident is plausible.  The point is the cover up.  The
second point is why.

Hilary

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[CTRL] Saddam, Milosevic ... Fidel Castro?

1999-07-15 Thread Das GOAT

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 "Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Jesse Helms countered the
claim by explaining the US was providing information to Cuba on suspected
drug planes that could have prompted Cuba to shoot down civilian planes."


Panel Urges Clinton To Indict Castro

By TOM RAUM
.c The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) - The chairman of a House panel and Cuban-American leaders
accused the Clinton administration today of stalling in a long-running
investigation of Cuba's shooting down of two civilian aircraft in 1996.

They suggested Fidel Castro should be indicted in the inquiry. The episode
over the Florida Straits, between Cuba and the Florida Keys, claimed the
lives of four.

``Castro ordered the shoot down. We need President Clinton to say that Fidel
Castro does not enjoy immunity as head of state for this crime. That's what
needs to happen here,'' George Fowler, general counsel of the Cuban American
National Foundation, told the House Judiciary crime subcommittee.

The subcommittee's chairman, Rep. Bill McCollum, R-Fla., agreed that Castro
should be indicted. ``I will do whatever it takes within my power'' to bring
the case to a close, including finding out why U.S. fighter jets were not
scrambled to intercept the Cuban MIGs that shot down two civilian planes in
the February 1996 incident, McCollum said.

He said that, if necessary, Congress would issue subpoenas to force
appearances by administration witnesses who have refused to appear.

Jeffrey Houlihan, a Customs radar operator in Riverside, Calif. who followed
the incident on his screen, said he was ``startled'' when he saw images of
the three small Cessna civilian aircraft being pursued by fast-moving blips
he took to be Russian-built Cuban MiGs.

He told the panel he immediately made an emergency call to the Southeast Air
Defense unit at Florida's Tyndall Air Force Base and was told, ``We're
handling it. Don't worry.''

Houlihan told the panel he did not know why the Air Force did not launch its
own fighter jets. A former Air Force radar controller, Houlihan said it was
standard practice for the United States to put its planes in the sky whenever
a Cuban fighter is seen heading toward the United States.

``I asked the Air Force - are you seeing what I'm seeing? It looked like two
aircraft were shot down,'' Houlihan said.

Jose Basulto, the pilot of the only surviving aircraft, said two Cuban MiGs
pursued him for 53 minutes before abandoning the chase about 30 miles west of
Key West.

Basulto is the founder and president of the Miami-based Brothers to the
Rescue, which routinely flies humanitarian missions to help refugees in rafts
and boats.

The Defense and Justice Department were invited but declined to send
witnesses to the hearing, McCollum said.

In a December 1998 memo, the Pentagon's inspector general, Eleanor Hill, told
lawmakers that ``national security classifications prohibit us from providing
detailed responses,'' including to the question of why U.S. jets were not
launched in the incident.

Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla., who is of Cuban descent, told the panel,
``We know who is ultimately responsible for this blatant act of aggression.
Yet, the Department of Justice has yet to conclude its investigation and
issue indictments against the Castro regime.''

In December 1997, U.S. District Court Judge Lawrence King in Miami demanded
that the Cuban government pay a bit more than $187 million to the relatives
of three Cuban-American pilots who died in the incident. The fourth man
killed was not a U.S. citizen, and his relatives were not eligible to sue
under the terrorism law, the court held.

Cuba maintains that the planes violated Cuban airspace and even flew over
land to scatter political pamphlets.

Meanwhile, Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Jesse Helms, R-N.C.,
and House International Relations Committee Chairman Benjamin Gilman, R-N.Y.,
jointly wrote to President Clinton demanding that the United States halt
cooperation with Cuba in the war on drugs.

They protested that the United States was providing information to Cuba on
suspected drug planes that could prompt Cuba to shoot down civilian planes.

``Providing such information risks exposing U.S. officials to criminal
liability,'' Helms and Gilman wrote.

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[CTRL] Iran's Tiananmen Square

1999-07-15 Thread Das GOAT

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Tehran Under Tight Security

By AFSHIN VALINEJAD
.c The Associated Press

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) - Iranian police kept Tehran under a tight
leash Thursday, manning checkpoints across the Iranian capital and demanding
identity papers as they searched for the students who ignited a week of
pro-democracy protests.

Several student protesters were missing, one student told an Iranian
newspaper. A news agency reported that some people were being interrogated by
the police - and another newspaper described scenes of hysteria when one
busload of detainees was driven off to prison.

Government officials said those found guilty of damaging public property
during the protests will be tried as ``enemies of the state'' and could face
the death penalty.

The protests brought to a head the power struggle between hard-line clerics
who have been in control of the government since the Revolution and moderates
who back the reformist President Mohammad Khatami.

The streets were unusually quiet Thursday around Tehran University, the
stronghold of the pro-democracy activists who have mobilized the most
significant unrest since the Islamic revolution of 1979. The protests began
June 9, hours after police stormed a dormitory on the campus, leaving one
person dead and 20 others seriously injured.

The Information Ministry said ``several people'' had been arrested in
connection with the dormitory raid and the ``subsequent riots in Tehran.''

The ministry statement did not give the number of detainees, but said they
were being interrogated, the official Iranian news agency reported in a
dispatch received in Dubai.

Security forces defused a bomb planted by insurgents in northwest Tehran on
Mullah Sadra Avenue, the Tehran Times reported Thursday. The bomb was ``very
powerful and could have inflicted heavy losses if exploded,'' it said.

The pro-government paper also said troops also discovered ``a hideout of
terrorists'' in the city, adding that the ``terrorists were disguised as
protesting students.'' The insurgents were not identified, but Iranian
authorities usually refer to members of the Iraqi-based opposition group, the
Mujahedeen Khalq, as ``terrorists.''

One protest leader, Ali Afshari, said a number of pro-democracy student
demonstrators were seized by conservatives during Wednesday's huge
pro-government rally in downtown Tehran, the Neshat daily reported.

Hard-liners at the rally ``attacked a group of student protesters,'' Afshari
was quoted as saying. ``They beat the students, then tied their hands and
feet with wire and took them to an unknown location in a waiting ambulance.''

It was not clear how many students were seized nor how they were identified
in a crowd estimated at 100,000 people.

Another newspaper reported disturbances outside the headquarters of the
Tehran Law Enforcement Forces when a bus holding detained protesters left the
premises.

Mothers cried out to see their sons and shouted for information about who was
on the bus and where it was going, the reformist Kar va Kargar newspaper
reported Thursday. They were told that some detainees were being transferred
to the city's Evin and Eshrat Abad prisons.

Tehran residents, in calls to Dubai, said Iran's mobile phone network failed
to work for a second day Thursday. It was not clear whether the authorities
had shut down the network, but during the demonstrations earlier this week,
protesters had used mobile phones to coordinate their moves and warn each
other of approaching police.

The week of protests began after the hard-line conservatives, who control
many branches of the government, banned a moderate newspaper last week,
sparking a small protest from the students.

After the resulting police raid on the dormitory, students and pro-reform
civilians took to the streets in the thousands - one demonstration drew
25,000 people - and the protests spread to eight other Iranian cities.

But the hard-liners have regrouped in the past few days and succeeded in
banning all protests except one for their own supporters on Wednesday.

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[CTRL] By the Way, Sorry About the Crusades

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Crusades Apology 900 Years Later

By SALAM ABUMARAQ
.c The Associated Press

JERUSALEM (AP) - To most, the Crusades are ancient history.

Not to Prince Albrecht zu Castell-Castell, a descendant of one of the
Christian knights who nearly a millennium ago conquered Jerusalem and
massacred Muslims and Jews in the name of God.

On Thursday, the German aristocrat with white hair and ruddy cheeks finally
got a chance to apologize to descendants of the Muslim warrior Saladin for
his ancestor's crimes, which he said have burdened his conscience for years.

Castell-Castell was one of dozens of Western Christians who delivered
apologies to Israel's chief rabbi, the top Muslim cleric and anyone in the
streets of Jerusalem who would listen.

Thursday marked the 900th anniversary of the Crusaders' conquest of Jerusalem
on July 15, 1099.

In the runup to the date, about 500 Christians from Europe, Australia and the
United States joined a so-called Reconciliation Walk, setting out three years
ago from Cologne, Germany, where the first Crusade was launched in 1096, and
tracing the path of the Crusaders to the Holy Land.

In Jerusalem, the Christians held hands as they sang and prayed Thursday
outside the walls of the Old City. Wandering through the cobblestone streets,
they visited shops and handed out pamphlets with apologies in Hebrew and
Arabic.

Afterwards, the group separated; some met with Israel's chief rabbi, Meir
Israel Lau, at the Great Synagogue, and others with the top Muslim cleric in
the city, Mufti Ikrema Sabri.

``We are deeply sorry for the atrocities committed by our forefathers,'' read
the framed message handed to both. ``Where our forefathers were driven by
hatred and prejudice, we wish to express love and solidarity.''

During the Crusades, which lasted from the 11th through the 13th century,
tens of thousands of Muslims and Jews were killed. The Roman Catholic
Crusaders also wrested control of Christian holy sites from their Eastern
Orthodox stewards.

Lau, a survivor of the Nazi Holocaust, said he was not sure he had the
mandate to accept the apology, but welcomed it nonetheless. ``Better late
than never,'' he said.

Among the marchers was John Strobole, 74, a retired U.S. Air Force pilot from
Chico, Calif. ``I grew up believing that the Crusades were a fine thing, and
I was shocked when I learned of the massacres they carried out among the
Muslims, the Jews and Eastern Orthodox Christians,'' he said.

At the mufti's, Muslim officials introduced the visitors to Amin Maraka and
Mousa Sider, descendants of the Muslim conquerer Saladin, who retook
Jerusalem in 1187.

Castell-Castell's interest was piqued. He began speaking to the two elderly
Palestinian men in German, with his granddaughter translating into English
and a Palestinian woman translating from English into Arabic.

The prince, wearing a white Reconciliation Walk T-shirt, introduced himself
as the descendant of Count Ludwig who came to the Holy Land in 1228. Then,
with his hand on his heart, he apologized. ``I have borne the burden of my
ancestors,'' he said.

The descendants of Saladin accepted, and quickly brought up the Palestinians'
modern struggle for independence. Asking the prince to take their message
back to Europe, they said: ``We must be together always, not trying to crush
others.''

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[CTRL] NATO Needs a Head

1999-07-15 Thread Das GOAT

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 The presiding Secretary-General is leaving NATO to become the European
Union's first minister of defense.


New NATO Secretary-General Sought

By JEFFREY ULBRICH
.c The Associated Press


BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) - Wanted: Secretary-General for NATO. Must be
political heavyweight. An excellent communicator. And an effective manager.

Must not be from the United States, France, Italy, Canada, Spain, Poland,
Hungary or the Czech Republic.

NATO Secretary-General Javier Solana - a Spaniard who won the war in Kosovo,
moved the Western military alliance into a new era of enlargement and
drastically revamped its strategy - is leaving to become the European Union's
first coordinator for foreign and defense policy.

Filling his shoes will be no easy task.

``People are writing richly speculative articles,'' said one NATO ambassador,
insisting that ``the position at the moment is that there are no formal
candidates.''

The ambassador, like everyone else at the 19-nation alliance's headquarters
who was asked about the search for Solana's successor, declined to speak on
the record.

The lack of formal candidates leaves NATO observers little to work with
beyond a handful of ``names being mentioned.''

So far, there are only four. The most prominent is German Defense Minister
Rudolf Scharping. He certainly wins the highest praise, but his boss, German
Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, says he needs the 51-year-old Scharping at
home.

Others include Paddy Ashdown, 58, the departing leader of Britain's Liberal
Democratic Party; former Belgian Prime Minister Jean-Luc Dehaene, 58, and
Hans Haekkerup, 53, Denmark's defense minister.

Selecting a new secretary-general, like everything else at NATO, is done by
consensus. The dean of the NATO ambassadors, Sir John Goulding of Britain,
has been consulting with his fellow ambassadors to see if consensus is
forming around any particular name. So far, NATO officials say, nothing has
emerged.

Solana's four-year mandate ends in December, but he is expected to leave
sometime in October to start his new job. Best guess among NATO officials is
the new man - and it will be a man - will be named in September, when all
NATO foreign ministers are in New York for the U.N. General Assembly.

The new secretary-general must be a politician with clout, somebody who can
forge consensus when things get tough, said one NATO official. He must be
able to explain effectively the alliance strategy in tough spots like Kosovo.
And he must be able to manage a large bureaucracy.

There are limitations.

By tradition, he can't be an American because the United States already holds
the top two military jobs in the alliance. He can't be French, because France
still has not rejoined the integrated military command, which it left in 1966
when President Charles de Gaulle became upset over American influence.

Italy already has a deputy secretary-general and it's too soon to have
another Spaniard. Somebody from the three new members - Poland, Hungary and
the Czech Republic - would probably rile the Russians.

Some people at NATO still believe Scharping could fall on his domestic
political sword in the end and take the NATO job for the good of the
alliance. Others think not.

Most write off Dehaene as a nonstarter. Solana's predecessor, Willy Claes,
also a Belgian, was forced to resign because of a political scandal back
home. The voters just kicked Dehaene and his party out of office, in large
part due to other scandals.

Ashdown, though attractive in some ways, has never held a Cabinet post or a
high government job. He does, however, have significant military experience,
something Solana - an anti-NATO peacenik in his youth - never had.

Haekkerup is the least known of all but has solid experience.

``It's unfortunate there is such a poor list,'' said Gordon Adams of the
International Institute for Strategic Studies in London. ``Solana is a hell
of an act to follow. He has been a superb secretary-general.''

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[CTRL] Swiss Probe of Kremlin's Money-Laundering

1999-07-15 Thread Das GOAT

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Russian Corruption Scandal Revived

By JUDITH INGRAM
.c The Associated Press

MOSCOW (AP) - The opening of a Swiss criminal probe into possible money
laundering by aides to President Boris Yeltsin has revived a corruption
scandal that allegedly reaches the highest levels of power in Russia.

A Swiss official said Wednesday that a criminal investigation had been
launched into alleged money-laundering by Kremlin financial manager Pavel
Borodin and other Russian citizens. Swiss prosecutors have asked Swiss banks
to freeze assets of 22 people suspected in the case, including Borodin, his
wife, and top members of Yeltsin's administration, according to Swiss media
reports.

``We have reason to suspect it was bribe money being laundered,'' Swiss
investigating judge Daniel Devaud was quoted by The Moscow Times as saying.

Borodin rejected the allegations.

``Neither I nor my wife have anything to do with Swiss bank accounts,'' he
was quoted as saying by Interfax news agency. ``All these media attacks on me
have been made on clearly political orders.''

The Kremlin had no comment, but Yeltsin was expected to defend his top
financial aide - the man responsible for providing housing and other material
comforts for the president and his family.

``There will be a very sharp reaction from the presidential administration,
because now there's talk about concrete names ... people close to Yeltsin,''
said Yevgeny Volk, director of the Moscow office of the Heritage Foundation.

Corruption has long played a leading role in Russian life at all levels,
often dictating such everyday decisions as who will get a business license or
whose son will be excused from army service.

It has positively bloomed in post-Soviet Russia, where savvy businessmen with
political connections have been able to get rich quickly through the
privatization of state-owned property.

While Yeltsin has not been personally linked to corruption allegations, his
administration has done little to fight endemic graft in the government.

The Kremlin has been fighting persistent opposition and media allegations of
influence-peddling by the members of Yeltsin's close circle, including his
daughter Tatyana Dyachenko. She has been tied to controversial tycoon and
Kremlin insider Boris Berezovsky, who is also being investigated for his
involvement in the finances of Russia's largest airline, Aeroflot.

The first reports of the kickback scandal emerged in January, when Swiss
officials at Russia's request searched the offices of a construction company
called Mabetex. Russian investigators suspected that Mabetex had bribed top
officials for lucrative renovation contracts.

In February, Swiss Federal Prosecutor Carla del Ponte informed Russian
Prosecutor General Yuri Skuratov that Mabetex had been regularly transferring
large amounts of money to a Swiss bank account.

Skuratov has been battling to keep his job ever since, and says that attempts
to remove him from office are an effort to curb the probe. Yeltsin suspended
Skuratov, but he has refused to leave.

Russian prosecutors searched Borodin's office in March and confiscated
documents involving Mabetex, but no charges have been made. Both Mabetex and
the government say they did no wrong.

Borodin's lawyer, Boris Kuznetsov, said in an interview Thursday in the
Kommersant daily that the allegations against Borodin were ``a purely
political action against the president of Russia, initiated by Swiss
Prosecutor Carla del Ponte.''

Del Ponte has continually pledged Swiss support in Russia's inquiry.

Swiss prosecutors have also been investigating the tycoon Berezovsky and his
involvement in the finances of Aeroflot, headed by Yeltsin's son-in-law,
Valery Okulov.

In April, Russian prosecutors issued a warrant for Berezovsky's arrest on
charges of hiding Aeroflot's hard currency earnings in Swiss firms. The
warrant was later revoked.

Last week, though, Swiss prosecutors seized a large number of documents from
two firms in Lausanne, Switzerland, that are linked with Berezovsky: Andava
and Forus Service.

The tycoon founded the companies in 1994, one day after Aeroflot was
privatized, Russia's Izvestia daily reported on Thursday. Berezovsky is
accused of funneling $250 million through the two firms.

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[CTRL] China's Own Neutron Bomb

1999-07-15 Thread Das GOAT

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China: We Have Our Own Neutron Bomb

By JOE McDONALD
.c The Associated Press

BEIJING (AP) - China declared today that it had invented its own neutron
bomb, making an unprecedented disclosure about its nuclear arsenal to counter
and reject U.S. accusations of atomic spying.

The timing of the announcement came as the furor over spy claims by a U.S.
congressional panel led by Rep. Christopher Cox was dying down. Still, China
is in the midst of its harshest campaign of criticism of rival Taiwan in
three years, and has threatened to attack the island.

China is known to have exploded a neutron bomb in 1988, but in keeping with
its secretive military traditions, apparently never announced its
achievement.

The bombs are meant to produce a smaller blast than conventional nuclear
weapons but more intense radiation, limiting physical damage while killing
large numbers of people.

In Washington, White House press secretary Joe Lockhart sought to reassure
Americans about the threat of China's neutron bomb. ``We have no doubt that
our nuclear deterrent is strong enough to protect our national interests,''
he said.

Zhao Qizheng, the chief government spokesman, said Chinese scientists
developed neutron bombs and miniaturized atomic warheads in the 1970s and
'80s.

The United States developed neutron bombs in the 1970s, but said it never
deployed them.

Calling the Cox report on Chinese spying ``utterly absurd'' and racist, Zhao
rejected suggestions that China built the bombs only by relying on stolen
U.S. technology.

``The Chinese can't be as smart as the Americans, therefore they must have
stolen the technology,'' he said.

Zhao also gave details of programs to develop anti-submarine microwave
technology, missile design techniques and technology to launch multiple
satellites from a single rocket.

Zhao said China, which exploded its first nuclear bomb in 1964, was driven by
the nuclear threat of the U.S.-Soviet arms race.

``China had no choice but to carry out research and development of nuclear
weapons,'' he said.

After developing atomic and hydrogen bombs, Zhao said, it was ``quite logical
and natural for it to master the neutron bomb technology through its own
efforts over a short period of time.''

In Tokyo, the chief Japanese government spokesman said that although having
neutron technology doesn't violate international arms-control agreements,
Japan would ask China to exercise restraint in developing it.

``We hope that efforts toward nuclear arms reduction will be strengthened
further,'' the Kyodo news agency quoted Hiromu Nonaka as saying.

China has threatened to attack Taiwan after Taiwanese President Lee Teng-hui
said last week the two governments have ``state-to-state'' relations, all but
rejecting Beijing's insistence that the island is part of its territory.

Taiwan and the mainland have been ruled separately since China's civil war 50
years ago. Beijing has said it reserves the right to use force against the
island if it declares formal independence.

A sharply worded commentary Thursday in China's military-run Liberation Army
Daily said the armed forces were ready to attack Taiwan if necessary to
enforce Beijing's claim.

``(We) will not tolerate separatist conspiracies nor sit idly by to let even
one inch of territory go,'' said the commentary, which was reprinted in major
newspapers nationwide.

Zhang Qiyue, a Foreign Ministry spokeswoman, would not comment on whether the
neutron bomb disclosures were meant as a threat to Taiwan. She would not say
whether China has a neutron bomb in its arsenal now.

But Zhang repeated Beijing's warning to Taiwan not to ``underestimate the
firm resolve'' of the Chinese government to enforce its territorial
integrity.

``Lee Teng-hui and the Taiwan authorities must ... stop all activities aimed
at splitting the motherland,'' she told reporters.

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[CTRL] No Malpractice Liability for HMOs, GOP Decides

1999-07-15 Thread Das GOAT

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Senate Nixes Patient Suits vs. HMOs

By DARLENE SUPERVILLE
.c The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) - Turning to one of the most contentious issues in the
weeklong debate over health maintenance organizations, the Senate today
killed a Democratic provision that would have enabled patients to sue their
health plans.

Health plans that fall under federal regulations cannot now be sued.

The Senate voted 53-47 against the provision, which Democrats had argued
would force insurers to put a patient's health before the company bottom
line.

President Clinton said he was bewildered by the rejection of the provision
and lashed out at Republicans, who control the Senate.

``The health insurers won't let them do it,'' Clinton said. ``It's a sad day
for health care in America. But we're not done yet and this won't die.''

The sponsor of the doomed amendment, Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill., said:
``This is the heart of the debate. This is what the patients' bill of rights
is all about.''

Republicans countered by saying patients would actually suffer because of the
cost and expense of lengthy court fights.

``This is a terrible idea,'' said Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala. ``It will add
expense throughout the system and will not benefit patients who need it when
they need it.''

Senators also were expected to adopt a four-part amendment by Sen. Susan
Collins, R-Maine, covering the areas of long-term and emergency room care,
access to medical specialists and obstetrician-gynecologists.

The GOP bill would:

Create a new tax deduction for long-term care, though Republicans gave no
details on how they would pay for the $5.4 billion, five-year plan.

Strengthen a GOP provision on emergency room care by ensuring that sick
people would not pay more for visiting a hospital that is outside the health
plan's network. It also would require coverage for follow-up care after the
patient's condition has been stabilized. But it would apply only to the 48
million people covered by federally regulated plans.

Require ``timely'' access to medical specialists, but not those outside a
plan's network. It also only applies to the 48 million.

Assure unfettered access to obstetricians for pregnant women, but only allow
direct access to gynecologists for unspecified ``routine care.'' Covers 48
million.

The Senate was expected to pass the GOP bill today.

But as the White House again signaled President Clinton's intention to veto
the Republican bill, Sen. John Chafee, R-R.I., continued to work with a
handful of Democrats to forge an acceptable compromise.

Chafee noted that both bills were doomed, since the Senate was expected to
defeat the Democratic version. ``And the American people won't be one bit
better off than they were when we started this,'' he said at a news
conference.

Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., said most of the negotiations have centered on the
liability issue. The compromise bill would allow lawsuits in federal courts,
but not in state courts as the Democrats would. It would ban punitive damages
and, in an effort to win more GOP support, would cap damages for pain and
suffering.

``This is a classic congressional moment,'' said Sen. Joseph Lieberman,
D-Conn. ``Are we going to adopt the 70 percent we agree on or are we going to
just leave it where it is and do nothing.''

In action Wednesday, the Senate refused, 52-48, to extend new rules for
health maintenance organizations to some 161 million people with private
insurance regulated by the states. The result is that many of the new Senate
provisions would apply only to the 48 million people covered by federally
regulated insurance plans.

``The point ... is that the states have acted. They've acted without any
mandate or prod from Washington and they've acted in a way to tailor their
laws to their marketplace,'' said Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine. ``One size
does not fit all.''

Democrats disagreed. ``On every single amendment the people lose and the HMOs
win,'' complained Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif.

Sen. Bill Frist, R-Tenn., a physician who is helping to lead the GOP effort,
said some ``very good'' Democratic ideas would be folded into the final bill.

``We'll deliver,'' he told reporters.

The Senate also rejected, 53-47, a Democratic proposal to require HMOs to pay
for treatment by specialists, even those outside of a plan's network. The GOP
version would require ``timely'' specialist care, but not from outside
doctors.

It approved, 55-45, a GOP measure requiring coverage of doctor-recommended
overnight hospitalization for women treated for breast cancer. Democrats
support the idea, but voted against the proposal because it eliminated one of
their provisions easing access to clinical trials for the dying or seriously
ill.

Both parties have offered new federal rights for patients in HMOs or other
managed care plans, but Republicans are more modest on virtually every issue.

Democrats accuse Republicans of turning their backs on millions of Americans
who are 

[CTRL] China Ready to Invade Taiwan

1999-07-15 Thread Das GOAT

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Chinese Military Threaten Taiwan

BEIJING (AP) - Vowing to defend every inch of Chinese territory, China's
military today threatened to use force against Taiwan if President Lee
Teng-hui declares independence on the island.

In a sharply worded commentary run in newspapers nationwide, the military's
newspaper, the Liberation Army Daily, said the armed forces stood ready to
enforce a long-standing government policy to attack Taiwan, if need be, to
uphold China's claim to the island.

The commentary echoed warnings delivered Wednesday and carried in newspapers
today by Defense Minister Chi Haotian. Chi, a career political commissar in
the military, said the People's Liberation Army would ``smash any attempts to
separate the country.''

The rhetoric is the most aggressive used by China's leaders since Lee
provoked Chinese outrage Saturday by suggesting that China and Taiwan are
separate, equal countries. The tone also underscored the military's
strengthened hand over policy-making since NATO bombed the Chinese Embassy in
Yugoslavia two months ago.

Separated during a civil war 50 years ago, Beijing and Taipei have for years
claimed to be part of ``one China'' - a concept that has kept Beijing from
declaring war to retake the island. Although Lee maintains he still supports
eventual reunification, his government this week declared the ``one China''
policy a hindrance to Taiwan.

``Every warrior in the entire army is furiously indignant over Lee Teng-hui's
evil plot to separate the motherland,'' the Liberation Army Daily said in the
front-page commentary.

``In the struggle between upholding unification and opposing separatism, we
... will not tolerate separatist conspiracies nor sit idly by to let even one
inch of territory go,'' the newspaper said.

The newspaper, which is run by the political office of the 2.8 million-member
PLA, heaped scorn on Lee, accusing him of exposing ``his ugly face of
separatism.''

In a sign of the military's influence, the Liberation Army Daily commentary
was reprinted on the front-pages of all major national newspapers, including
People's Daily, the authoritative voice of the ruling Communist Party.

After NATO bombed the Chinese Embassy on May 7, conservatives in the party
and the military accused reformist members of the leadership for being
pro-American and not taking seriously U.S. attempts to contain China. Leaders
have promised the military more funding to upgrade weaponry and protect China
from foreign bullying.

The Liberation Army said that the ``modernizing'' PLA has sufficient military
strength and resolve to defend the nation's territorial integrity.

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #2

1999-07-15 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990715b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: No Chinese neutron bombs were detonated to produce of this bulletin. Yet.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# HAARP: PROBING THE NORTHERN LIGHTS. The single most contentious question
  in science at the end of century 20 isn't about evolution, the origin of
  the universe or human cloning, but, "What is the gov't really up to near
  Gakona, Alaska?" Officially, this 33-acre gravel pad near the Tok Highway
  180 miles NE of Anchorage is the home of the high-frequency active auroral
  research program (HAARP). Depending upon who you ask for a more detailed
  description, HAARP is either a futuristic weapon, a scientific research
  project, a global mind control scheme-rivaling network TV-or the cause of
  a reptilian invasion from another dimension. Better than the magic-pellet
  petrol substitute: http://popularmechanics.com/popmech/sci/9907STRSP.html

: Are you involved in disinformation re: HAARP? Is HAARP conspiratology dis-
information to distract us from something else? What's really being hidden?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ ABDUCTEE.NET - While some UFO-related sites amount to little more than a
  gray page with heavily exclamated text reading "I WUZ ABDUCTED!!!", this
  hub offers a great deal more content, taste,  a far higher design ethic.
  Read abductee stories or report your own, discover government cover-ups,
  or chat with fellow UFO-heads. A galaxy of other options awaits you on
  this -- the final frontier. Never be seen again: http://www.abductee

: Did you report your abduction to im/proper authorities, friends/family [if
any], the Net? Who believes you? Have you been tracked ever since? By whom?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# U.S. terrorist threats detailed. WASHINGTON (AP) - An anthrax release in
  Boston, a North Korean sale of nuclear bombs, an Iraqi nerve-agent attack
  on U.S. troops, were among the potential threats to Americans cited by a
  commission urging gov't action to combat such risks. "We are woefully un-
  prepared..." Proposed laws would tighten export controls on items that
  might be used to manufacture heavily destructive weaponry, and would have
  all worldwide transactions recorded electronically. We'll be watching you:
  see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=256028-571

: Can you brew up awesome terrorist weapons out of common components? Do ETs
help you master terror-technology? Does your implant warn of gov't probing?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Bible Sales Beyond Grave Spark Police Probe. LONDON (Reuters)  UK cops are
  investigating a "Christian Bookshop" that is sending bills to dead people
  for bibles. The company had sent invoices to people who had recently died,
  demanding payment for bibles and a book called "Jesus of the Holy Land."
  "It's a scam. There is no evidence of an order being placed. There is no
  evidence of books being delivered." The outstanding debt was put at $40,
  accompanied by a demand to the estates of the dead for prompt payment.
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/990715/08/odd-crime-bibles

: If death and taxes are inevitable, are religious scams too? If Mormons can
baptize/convert the dead, why can't your belief system assess the dead? Are
the dead the ideal customers, since they can't complain or demand refunds?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Turkey offers Israel water. JERUSALEM (AP) - Turkey could solve Israel's
  chronic water shortage by hauling enormous water-filled plastic bubbles by
  tugboat across the Mediterranean, Turkey's president said. Such a project
  could eventually supply Israel with up to 140 billion cubic feet of water
  a year. Israel  Turkey already have close military  economic links, and
  the ties would strengthen if Turkey becomes Israel's major water supplier.
  Nearby Arab countries, especially Syria, are watching the Israeli-Turkish
  ties with great concern, fearing the alliance could dominate the Middle
  East. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560287305-089

: Should icebergs be hauled to LosAngeles? Are giant water bubbles easy tar-
gets? Do Arab states deserve to be dominated? Does Turkey have crop circles?
Can giant water bubbles be hauled to distant space colonies? Is dependence
on water a surmountable limitation? Can we evolve to drink vacuum? Want to?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Experimental Method Delivers Drugs To Brain. WASHINGTON (Reuters)  French
  researchers have used tiny capsules called microspheres to deliver cancer
  drugs directly into the brains of patients. The method helped double the
  survival time of 8 patients and may offer a new and better way to treat
  brain tumors. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990715/01/science-cancer-brain

: What drugs do you want to deliver directly to your brain? Do microspheres
interfere with alien implants, 

[CTRL] Feds Weigh Doomsday Scenarios

1999-07-15 Thread Das GOAT

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U.S. Terrorist Threats Detailed

By DAVID BRISCOE
.c The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) - Concerned about a series of doomsday scenarios ranging from
an anthrax release in Boston to an Iraqi nerve gas attack on U.S. troops, a
government commission proposes a far-reaching reform of agencies now handling
such threats.

President Clinton said the recommendations ``deserve serious consideration.''
He directed his national security adviser, Sandy Berger, to coordinate an
interagency assessment and to report back within 60 days.

The commission's report released Wednesday details a plan to give the vice
president the lead role in preventing and dealing with the threat of weapons
of mass destruction and calls for appointment of a high-profile national
director for nonproliferation

In a separate report, a congressional study estimated it would cost a city of
500,000 about $1.3 million to acquire basic equipment to prepare for a
hazardous material incident and $12 million to be ``highly prepared'' for a
chemical, biological, radiological or nuclear event.

The commission's main proposals and conclusions were disclosed last week in
interviews, but former CIA Director John Deutch, who headed the panel,
released details of its work Wednesday.

``We believe the country needs to be better protected,'' Deutch said,
introducing his congressionally-established 12-member panel at the Capitol.

Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., the commission's vice chairman, announced plans to
introduce legislation today that would tighten export controls on items that
might be used to manufacture heavily destructive weapons, including requiring
electronic registration of all sales of such products- a practice he said
should be adopted worldwide.

``We are woefully unprepared, and we would like to see something done before
some incident occurs,'' Specter said.

The commission concludes that the top levels of government are ``not
effectively organized to combat proliferation'' and recommends more
presidential and vice presidential involvement in the issue, as well as a
reorganization of the nearly 100 agencies now dealing with the issue.

One commission member, former Democratic Sen. James Exon of Nebraska,
dissenting from the report's main recommendation, urged greater Cabinet-level
involvement and a nonproliferation director who would report directly to the
president.

``What has been crafted, in my opinion, is another lower-level 'working
group,''' Exon said.

To underscore the motivation for its proposals, the commission listed four
scenarios it said could occur:

Anthrax is released in a Boston subway station during rush hour, sending
6,000 people to hospital emergency rooms.

Analysts estimate that North Korean scientists have assembled 10 nuclear
weapons, and intelligence reports say North Korea is planning to sell two.

Iraqi President Saddam Hussein orders Scud missiles carrying nerve agents
fired upon U.S. troops in Turkey and Saudi Arabia.

A disgruntled Russian scientist at Ozersk acquires 44 pounds of highly
enriched uranium and sells it to Iran.

``These events have not taken place,'' it said. ``But they could.''

In the separate General Accounting Office report, investigators compiled
estimates of the resources it would take to meet a catastrophic attack on a
U.S. city of 500,000. The report cautions that the estimates and accompanying
list of needed supplies are meant only to be illustrative of possible needs.

For a typical hazardous materials incident, it estimated $1.3 million to
procure materials ranging from duct tape to mobil comand posts and another
$3.3 million to sustain the preparedness over 10 years.

For a high level of preparation, the estimates were $12.2 million for initial
procurement and $42.9 million over a decade.

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[CTRL] Amish Gene Therapy

1999-07-15 Thread Das GOAT

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 "[The Amish] will be the first subjects in a test of a process called
chimeraplasty, which involves tricking the body into correcting a gene
mutation. If successful, the technique could be used to treat up to 80
percent of all genetic diseases."


Amish Are Subjects in Gene Testing

By JENNIFER BROWN
.c The Associated Press

STRASBURG, Pa. (AP) - Lancaster County's Amish and Mennonite people, the
plain folk who mostly live, work and dress the way they did during the 19th
century, are nevertheless serving as test subjects in one of the most
advanced areas of medicine - gene therapy.

Scientists hope to learn more about genetic diseases by studying members of
the insular community, people who often ride in horse-drawn buggies and don't
have electricity but are willing to climb into an MRI machine.

``I can see how it could be confusing if you don't understand our beliefs,''
said Leon Newswanger, a Mennonite whose son will be one of the first
participants in human trials of a new gene therapy. ``But if we don't do
whatever it takes, if we know what could help - then that is worse.''

The Amish and Mennonites, known as the Plain community for their simple, dark
clothes and rural way of life, have a higher rate of certain inherited
diseases than other people.

They have become instrumental in genetic research because the estimated
75,000 sect members are descended from just 47 families. The sects have been
providing blood samples and family histories to geneticists for years.

Similarly, scientists have studied Ashkenazi Jews, Cajuns in Louisiana and
other groups with a high degree of genetic uniformity.

``Amish people know the reality of genetic diseases and so any advances are
welcomed,'' said Dr. Holmes Morton, who opened the Clinic for Special
Children in the heart of Pennsylvania's Amish country in 1990.

It is one of the most advanced gene research clinics in the country, situated
in a timber-frame house surrounded by fields plowed by mules.

Newswanger's son, Marlin, and two other children from Morton's clinic will be
the first subjects in a test of a process called chimeraplasty, which
involves tricking the body into correcting a gene mutation. If successful,
the technique could be used to treat up to 80 percent of all genetic
diseases.

All three children are stricken with Crigler-Najjar, a rare liver disease
that is more common among Amish and Mennonites. About 300 people worldwide
have Crigler-Najjar; 16 trace their roots to Lancaster's Plain sects and are
being treated by Morton.

Crigler children suffer severe jaundice and must sleep under special
rehabilitating lights for up to 16 hours a day to prevent deadly brain
damage.

Altogether, Morton treats hundreds of children with more than 70 rare genetic
diseases, and many regularly undergo MRIs and complicated blood tests and may
be hospitalized for months at a time. Some children must be fed special
formulas and vitamins - another contrast in a community where nearly all the
food is homegrown.

``This is what it takes to keep him alive,'' said Glenda Groff, a Mennonite
whose 8-year-old son has a genetic disorder called maple syrup urine disease,
which is fatal without a proper diet.

The disease - extremely rare in the general population but more common among
Mennonites - prevents the body from processing certain amino acids, which
then become toxic. One of the symptoms is urine that smells like maple sugar.

With the opening of Morton's clinic, many Amish and Mennonite have shed their
traditional fatalism about disease.

``There is a perception in the Plain community that some things are a fact of
life,'' said Rebecca Smoker, an Amish worker at Morton's clinic. ``For years,
these children lived their short little lives and died without any medical
person seeing them because everybody knew they were going to die.''

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[CTRL] G.W.Bush-Foot firmly in mouth.

1999-07-15 Thread William Shannon

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chatterbox

Mister Bush's Neighborhood

By Timothy Noah


Chatterbox is dumbfounded at the light media coverage of the news
that George W. Bush sold his Dallas house in January 1995--after he
was elected governor of Texas--with a covenant stipulating that it
be occupied by "white persons only, not excluding bona fide
servants of any race." The story, which Matt Drudge broke two days
ago and which the Associated Press and CNN confirmed yesterday, is
nowhere to be found in today's New York Times, Los Angeles Times,
or Wall Street Journal. The Washington Post ran a brief item about
it under the headline, "Bush Campaign Calls Whites-Only Covenant on
House a Non-Issue," and the New York Post ran something dismissive
in its Page Six gossip column. Judging from Nexis, the only major
U.S. newspapers to run stand-alone articles about the Bush covenant
today were the Boston Globe and the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.

The Bush campaign yesterday released a one-line statement from the
candidate on the matter: "There is no deed restriction because it
is null and void under Texas law and has been since 1984."
Actually, whatever law Texas passed in 1984 is beside the point,
since, as Eve Gerber observes in Slate's "Explainer" column, racial
covenants have been effectively null and void under federal law
since 1948, when the Supreme Court made it illegal for courts to
enforce them, and 1968, when Congress made it illegal for private
individuals to honor existing racial covenants or to write up new
ones. But that hasn't stopped politicians from catching hell when
racial covenants on their houses have been unearthed during the
past half-century. John F. Kennedy hit Richard Nixon with the issue
during the 1960 presidential campaign. Later, it came out that
JFK's house had a racial covenant, too; he hadn't known about it.
Dianne Feinstein tagged Michael Huffington about a racial covenant
on his house during her 1994 Senate race; Huffington then tagged
her back, because she had a racial covenant on her house, too,
which she hadn't known about. (In both instances, Chatterbox is
taking the aggressor at his/her word because he can't imagine any
candidate would be stupid enough to knowingly make an accusation so
likely to boomerang.)

Bush spokeswoman Mindy Tucker has been telling reporters that Bush,
too, did not know of the covenant when he sold the house. It's
possible she's telling the truth; if she is, this is a one-day
story of little consequence. But some vaguely problematic
additional facts have come out. According to CNN, Dawn Moore, an
agent for the company that did the title search for the 1995 sale,
says she sent Bush the deed restrictions with the closing papers.
So, now we have to believe that Bush had the information but didn't
read it. OK, that's still plausible; this was obviously a busy time
for Bush, and nobody reads everything handed to them at a house
closing. But this wasn't Bush's only transaction involving this
house; he also bought it in 1988, at which time there would have
been an earlier title search. Meanwhile, Bush spokeswoman Tucker
has been saying that Bush's former neighborhood, Preston Hollow,
was a place where (unenforceable) racial covenants were the norm.
The Washington Post quotes Tucker saying, "All the houses in that
neighborhood have it." Hmm. Does that mean nobody in Preston Hollow
knew its houses had racial covenants? Or does that mean that Bush's
neighbors did know about the covenants but never got around to
telling Bush about them during the seven years he lived there?

Bush's second line of defense on the covenant issue may turn out to
be the remarks of his real-estate broker, Steve Collins, who told
AP that to delete the offensive wording Bush would have had to
collect signatures from 75 percent of Preston Hollow's residents
and go through a costly and lengthy legal process. "Why would
someone volunteer for that when they didn't need to?" Collins said.
Well, you might want to do it if you were a major political figure
and were rich enough to own a piece of the Texas Rangers. "You
don't gain anything by doing it," Collins told AP. "They don't mean
anything." But if they didn't mean anything, it wouldn't be
difficult to get your neighbors to sign a petition doing away with
them. Or would it?

Perhaps Chatterbox is being a little unfair about the petition
difficulty. Frank Michelman, an expert on restrictive covenants at
Harvard Law School, told Chatterbox: "Think about your average Joe
who is approached by somebody who says here's a little instrument I
would like your signature on." Average Joe is going to ask himself
whether this little instrument is going to affect his property
value. In this case it clearly wouldn't, since the racial covenant
has no legal force. (Indeed, Chatterbox thinks, it ought to help,
since some people wouldn't want to buy a house knowing it had an
unsavory racial covenant.) But still, Michelman argues, Average Joe
would want to talk to his 

[CTRL] SUBTERRANEA BRITANNICA: The Study and Investigation of Man-Made and Man Used Underground Places

1999-07-15 Thread Robert Tatman

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SUBTERRANEA BRITANNICA (http://www.stonix.demon.co.uk/sub-brit/)

About Sub Brit
Formed in 1974, Subterranea Britannica is a society devoted the the study and
investigation of man-made and man-used underground places. It brings together
people with an interest in all types of underground space - from deneholes to
dug-outs and from souterrains to subways. Indeed, as the list shows, there are
at least seventy categories of underground excavations that are of particular
interest to our members.
  Most people, however, confine their interest to just one or two specific
areas of research and investigation. As a result, there are among our many
members experts in particular types of underground structure, such as ice
houses or limestone quarries. In one instance, because of the great deal of
interest in the subject, a sub-group has been formed called the Research Study
Group or RSG, specifically devoted to the study of structures related to the
Cold War period.

There are some areas of underground study that are so specialised and complex,
coal mines and other types of working mine for example, that they are better
covered by specialist professional mining and engineering societies.
Consequently, Subterranea Britannica tends to devote its energies more in the
direction of older, smaller and more neglected underground features.

Subterranea Britannica is recognised as an authoritative body within this
specialist area of industrial archaeology and research. As such, it enjoys
links to similar organisations and societies both in the United Kingdom and
throughout Europe. These bodies include: The Council for British Archaeology;
The National Association for Mining History Organisations; Société Française
d'Étude des Souterrains, France; Arbeitskreis für Erdstallforschung, Germany;
Société Belge de Recherche et d'Étude des Souterrains, Belgium; and
Studiegroep Orderaadse Kalkensteengroeven (SOK), The Netherlands.

The Society publishes a bulletin, as well as producing regular newsletters for
the membership. Two conferences are held each year, usually in London and
Cambridge. In addition, field trips to visit interesting underground sites are
arranged during the year in various parts of the UK and Europe. Being a
responsible organisation, all underground excursions are conducted within
strict safety guidelines and always in conjunction with the owners or
authorities responsible for the site.

The organisation encourages the publication of any research and has access to
extensive information files as well as a library of relevant books and
journals.



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Re: [CTRL] UN Thugs Place OUR National parks off-limits

1999-07-15 Thread Kathleen

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Now, where can I find a UN flag to burn?


DEFINE: De ting you get for breaking de law.


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Re: [CTRL] No Malpractice Liability for HMOs, GOP Decides

1999-07-15 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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 Republicans countered by saying patients would actually suffer because of the
 cost and expense of lengthy court fights. 

What the GOP wants, the GOP gets.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] UN Thugs Place OUR National parks off-limits

1999-07-15 Thread Maggie

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I have a couple questions I hope you won't mind answering..
I have a hard time seeing what's wrong with it - don't get me wrong, I'm not
saying I know it's right, but I can't see much bad. It seems like a good
thing in that it keeps people from screwing up nice places. Which we do all
the time. I don't see how buying up land in national parks forces people
into the more manageable cities. As far as I know people don't live in
national parks. Can you explain it more?
I don't like the idea of it being UN owned, though.
What is the global biodiversity plan?
Thanks

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Date: Thursday, July 15, 1999 2:40 PM
Subject: [CTRL] UN Thugs Place OUR National parks off-limits


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"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
inclined nor determined to commit crimes...
Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the
assailants;
they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides,
for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence then an armed
man."
--- Thomas Jefferson


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THURSDAY
JULY 15
1999
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 National parks off-limits
U.N.-designated panel
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By Jon E. Dougherty
© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

Last year a United Nations-designated panel, at the behest of the Clinton
administration, called for the creation of uninhabited "buffer zones"
around
several U.S. national parks. Since then roughly two dozen U.S. parks and
preserves, covering millions of acres of public land, have been included in
the plan.
Now, however, new plans to expand these zones are in the works, and the
outrage has reached a near fever pitch among experts who say these
U.N.-designated sites are merely attempts to "globalize" huge portions of
the United States -- with taxpayers picking up the tab.

Henry Lamb of Eco-Logic -- a watchdog organization that monitors U.N.
activities and U.S. sovereignty issues -- told WorldNetDaily that one
example -- at Yellowstone National Park, where the creation of a larger
buffer zone is well underway -- was "just a sign of things to come."

"Inside Yellowstone, the U.S. Park Service is shutting down campgrounds as
the park is being prepared to become the core of a huge biosphere reserve,
as part of the United Nations global biodiversity plan," he said. "Once
established, no human activity will be permitted in the area," even though
U.S. taxpayers must continue to fund the maintenance and upkeep of
Yellowstone and other popular outdoor tourist sites.

Lamb said that in order to increase the buffer zone around Yellowstone, the
Park Service drove local businesses away by refusing to maintain access
roads. When the businesses folded as a result of heavy financial losses,
the
land was bought with taxpayer money and a larger zone of inaccessibility
was
created by default.

"Once they buy the land, the government is obviously not going to resell
it," he said, thus creating permanently larger buffer zones.

"The purpose of establishing sites as U.S. national parks was to have
people
in them enjoying them," Lamb added. "But the Clinton administration has
completely bought into this U.N. notion that our land ought to be their
land, managed by them. And as such, it ought to be uninhabited as well."

He said if most Americans "knew what was going on (with their national
parks), the uproar would be deafening."

In the case of Yellowstone, Lamb said the government's acquiescence to the
U.N.'s agenda cost a gold mining company about $30 million and in the end
prevented them from mining one ounce of known gold reserves, even though
the
government indicated they initially would have allowed it.

"The owners of the Crown Butte New World gold mine, which is outside of
Yellowstone National Park," he said, "were told by the government to comply
with a list of environmental requirements before they could move in and
begin mining."

But after being threatened with non-stop litigation from environmental
groups funded by U.N. agencies that could have lasted decades, the mining
company finally agreed to a deal that leaves at least $650 million of known
gold reserves in the ground instead. That deal provided the company with
about $65 million dollars for "more exploration." Of that amount, the
government said about $21 million had to be used for "environmental
clean-up."

Lamb said that Congress has consistently ignored Clinton administration
orders and directives designed to implement many of the U.N. mandates.
Clint
on, he said, is implementing U.N. directives via executive order and
presidential directive "because then he doesn't have to worry about getting

[CTRL] Fw: AANEWS for Thursday, July 15, 1999

1999-07-15 Thread CobolMage

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from: AMERICAN ATHEISTS
subject: AANEWS for July 15 1999

 A M E R I C A N   A T H E I S T S
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   In This Issue...
   * House debating RLPA
   * Court strikes portion of DeMent-Alabama ruling
   * Resources
   * About this list...

 HOUSE DEBATING RELIGIOUS LIBERTY PROTECTION ACT
Few Cite Separation: Nadler Version Limits Coverage

The House of Representatives opened debate this morning on the
controversial Religious Liberty Protection Act (RLPA).  Two versions
of the measure are on the floor, one offered by Rep.  Charles Canady
of Florida, a second more restricted writing presented by Rep.
Jerrold Nadler of N.Y.  At issue at this point in the discussion is
whether or not RLPA should trump the nation's civil rights law and
other anti-discrimination statutes.

A vote on the amended is expected shortly, and a tally on the Canady
bill (HR 1691) could come later this afternoon or sometime this
evening.  A special AANEWS dispatch will be sent out at that time.

The Religious Liberty Protection Act would hold government to a
"compelling interest/least restrictive means" test when dealing with
faith-based groups and practices.  It is based on the old Religious
Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA), struck down by the U.S.  Supreme Court
in the historic BOERNE v.  FLORES decision in 1997.  Justice John Paul
Stevens opined that thanks to RFRA, churches and other religious
groups possessed a legal instrument which "no atheist" could hope to
obtain, and thus constituted an impermissible establishment of
religion.

The battle over RLPA has pitted a coalition of religious groups and
some advocacy organizations, against an equally broad range of
opponents.  Many of the latter disagree only with certain portions of
the Religious Liberty Protection Act, and have attempted to have the
legislation amended so it would be accommodating.  Legal groups, for
instance, worried that RLPA might compromise security inside the
nation's penal system, by allowing inmates exemption from regulations
so that they may pursue questionable religious activities.  Others,
like historic preservation groups and municipal agencies, worry that
the law would create an incentive for churches to ignore land use and
zoning ordinances.

RLPA, like its predecessor, the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, was
crafted in order to adjust the balance between religious exercise and
the enforcement of "neutral" and generally applicable legal statutes.
In EMPLOYMENT DIVISION v.  SMITH (1990), the high court ruled that the
First Amendment's protection of the free exercise of religion did not
extend to religious exercise that is burdened by a neutral law of
general applicability.  That, backers of RFRA/RLPA argued, changed
dramatically the standard the court had used since 1963 established in
case like SHERBERT v.  VERNER; in SHERBERT, a member of the
Seventh-day Adventist Church who refused to work on her religion's
Saturday Sabbath was awarded unemployment compensation which had
previously been denied.  Other decisions came into play as well before
EMPLOYMENT DIVISION and the historic BOERNE v.  FLORES which struck
down the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.  In LYNG v.  NORTHWEST
INDIAN CEMETERY PROTECTIVE ASSOCIATION (1988), for instance, the court
opined that rendering an individual's obligation to obey a law
continent on religious belief thus permitted that individual "to
become a law unto himself," a contradiction of "constitutional
tradition and common sense."

Critics of RFRA and the Religious Liberty Protection Act charge that
the legislation thus encourages "special rights" for churches,
mosques, temples and other faith-based groups.

The House opened deliberations at 10 a.m.(ET) with a prayer by Rev.
James Ford, official chaplain of the body.  During a session of
off-topic one minute speeches, C-SPAN interviewed Larry Wirtham of the
Washington Times news paper, who provided background on the RLPA, and
said that opposition to the measure came from municipalities worried
about land use and zoning problems which they might encounter as a
result of the act.  While acknowledging that RLPA enjoyed universal
support from America's religious community, he did not mention
opposition from state-church separaitonists worried about the First
Amendment consequences of the legislation.

Debate then began on a modified version of RLPA.  Even those
supporting the new rendition claimed that the bill was necessary in
order to protect religious groups from encroachment by state and local
governments.  Considerable attention was paid to the fact that the
measure enjoyed the support of 

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1999-07-15 Thread CobolMage

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from: AMERICAN ATHEISTS
subject: AANEWS for July 15 1999 (Second Dispatch)

 A M E R I C A N   A T H E I S T S
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  RELIGIOUS LIBERTY PROTECTION ACT CLEARS HOUSE

The Religious Liberty Protection Act was approved by the House of
Representatives today this afternoon, 306-118.  The measure survived
attempts to amend it, after congress turned down a proposal by Rep.
Jerrold Nadler that would have limited the scope of the act, and not
allowed groups to cite religion in trumping anti-discrimination laws
and other civil rights legislation.

 Nadler Amendment Defeated

After nearly two hours of debate, the House voted on the Nadler
version of RLPA.  The amendment failed on a voice vote, and during a
recorded vote, C-SPAN interviewed Janet Parshall of the Family
Research Council.  She opined that there had been "a tremendous,
systematic assault by the Supreme Court over the past 35 years," -- a
figure not cited by some RLPA boosters who only go as far back as the
EMPLOYMENT DIVISION v.  SMITH ruling.  Parshall said that "we have
lost perspective," and that "95% of all Americans believe in god, they
have a creed, they have a house of worship."  She also described RLPA
as a "wall of protection instead of a wall of separation," in defining
the relationship between church and state.

Michael Farris of the Home School Legal Defense Fund predicted that if
passed, RLPA would be declared unconstitutional.  He praised the goal
of RLPA, but said that he had problems with the means being used,
specifically the commerce and spending clauses.  Farris also argued
that RLPA "helps only the big denominations," rather than small groups
of religious believers.  "The bills is a hoax on the American public,
the people pushing it know better, it will be declared
unconstitutional."

   The Nadler amendment on roll call failed 190-234.

With today's passage of RLPA in the House, the measure now moves to
the Senate.  The Senate Judiciary Committee is expected to hold
further hearings on its version of the legislation; capitol hill
watchers predict that RLPA may face a tougher time in the Senate.

A breakdown of representatives' vote will be available later this
evening on the American Atheists FLASHLINE web site.

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[CTRL] Right Away

1999-07-15 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From NewsMax


 Whittling Away Our Constitution One Right at a Time Ken
 HamblinJuly 15, 1999

 Add another name to our nation's hall of shame _ and one even
 scarier subtext, if you read carefully.

 Media reports have been rife with details about how Benjamin
 Nathaniel Smith, the youthful white supremacist who is our
 nation's newest incarnation of hatred personified, was able to
 purchase two handguns _ a .380-caliber semiautomatic and a
 .22-caliber handgun _ to use in pursuit of his grotesque racist
 ideology.

 His rampage included firing shots at six Orthodox Jews in
 Chicago, murdering former Northwestern University basketball
 coach Ricky Byrdson _ a black man _ shooting at an Asian couple
 in Northbrook, Ill., and killing 26-year-old Won Joon Yoon, an
 economics student from Bloomington, Ind.

 What Smith did was repulsive, and I commend him for the
 consideration he showed us by extinguishing his own unhappy,
 twisted little life at the end of his shooting spree.

 Unfortunately, his legacy may be yet another nail in the coffin
 in which the gun-grabbers hope to entomb our Second Amendment
 rights to keep and bear firearms.

 Ironically, the same weekend Smith began his rampage, USA Weekend
 published the results of a survey indicating that more than half
 of Americans are ready to trade some of their unique freedoms for
 greater personal and community safety.

 ``Fifty-two percent say the right to bear arms should be modified
 or eliminated,'' the report said.

 Don't get me wrong, now. I respect the opinions of those
 Americans who responded to USA Weekend's poll, even those 52
 percent with whom I find myself in such complete disagreement.

 Why am I being so accommodating toward people whose views in this
 matter I find both shortsighted and highly dangerous?

 Because I understand, as I can only wish they did, that the
 Constitution they're so ready to casually tamper with is the very
 document that guarantees them the right to be in opposition to me
 and my view of this world.

 I also understand, perhaps better than they do, how dizzying it
 can be to be bombarded by liberal screeds about the evils
 inherent in our Second Amendment rights _ even though these
 rights make us unique among all the nations on this earth.

 Not so coincidentally, I suspect, I happened upon another story
 in the same publication on the same day, with a headline that I
 found just as alarming.

 ``1st Amendment a Loser in Poll,'' it said. ``Too Much Press
 Freedom Seen.''

 According to this article, a surprisingly similar 53 percent of
 those questioned in a survey _ conducted under the auspices of
 the First Amendment Center at Vanderbilt University in Nashville
 _ believe ``the press has too much freedom,'' representing a rise
 of 15 percentage points since 1997.

 I talked with Paul McMasters, the center's ombudsman and a
 leading defender of the First Amendment, on my syndicated
 talk-radio show. According to him, my take on this poll _ that
 Americans are being dumbed down about the rights our forebears
 gallantly defended _ was uncomfortably accurate.

 His evident concern about the Vanderbilt poll results made me
 hope that some of those folks in academia _ and especially those
 who adore the liberal media, who have been working to make the
 Bill of Rights into a document more to their liking _ may at last
 be beginning to understand something we Second Amendment nuts
 have grasped for a long while.

 That simple thought is that, without the Second Amendment,
 there's a good chance there'll be no First Amendment.

 It's apparent, at least to me, that you can't selectively dupe
 the American people. You can't coax them into willingness to
 throw away one inalienable right, while making sure that they
 cherish another.

 They can't be brainwashed to shrug off one right _ the right to
 bear arms _ and remain passionately protective of another right _
 the right to free speech. No matter how much that scenario fits
 the political agenda of the left.

 The Vanderbilt poll makes it frighteningly apparent that, if you
 propagandize to abolish the Second Amendment _ making us more
 like Australians, Mexicans and the English _ then you had best be
 prepared to cope with a populace ignorant and indifferent about
 the First Amendment.

 This chilling reality was confirmed by McMasters, when he told me
 that, of all our inalienable rights which were mentioned in the
 survey, the one that provoked the most negative reaction was
 freedom of the press.

 c.1999 Ken Hamblin

 Ken Hamblin is the author of “Pick a Better Country.” He writes a
 column for the Denver Post and has been a radio talk-show host
 for 15 years. His program is syndicated by American View Inc.,
 and currently is carried by 120 stations across the country.


AER
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[CTRL] KPFA

1999-07-15 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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Via Z-Mag.OrG


 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
 CONTACT: July 13, 1999
 Belinda Griswold 415-546-6334 x313
 CONTROVERSIAL EMAIL RECEIVED DETAILING POSSIBLE CLOSURE OF KPFA
 AS LAWSUIT IS FILED TO FORCE ACCOUNTABILITY COMMUNITY LEADERS
 DECRY CRACKDOWN

 BERKELEY, CA - At a press conference at 1:30 p.m. today, Media
 Alliance Executive Director Andrea Buffa will release a
 controversial email she received yesterday that describes plans
 by Pacifica Radio to close KPFA and possibly sell another
 Pacifica station, WBAI in New York. The email appears to have
 come from Pacifica board of directors member Michael Palmer.

 "We are working to confirm the authenticity of this email and
 call on Michael Palmer and Pacifica Board Chair Dr. Mary Frances
 Berry to immediately publicly confirm or refute this email,"
 Buffa said.

 Phone calls by Media Alliance and several Pacifica board members
 to Palmer have not been returned. Local Internet service provider
 IGC was contacted about verifying the path by which the email was
 sent to Media Alliance. IGC's tech services department has stated
 that the email looks to have legitimately been sent from Palmer's
 account. The full text of the email is available at www.zmag.org
 or www.counterpunch.org.

 The press conference takes place immediately preceding a hearing
 at Berkeley Municipal Court at which charges will be filed
 against a group of peaceful protesters who blocked the entry to
 Pacifica Foundation's office in Berkeley last month. The
 demonstrators prevented Pacifica Foundation Executive Director
 Lynn Chadwick from entering her office on June 22. Chadwick
 initiated a citizen's arrest when Berkeley police refused to cite
 the activists. Local community leaders decried the decision,
 calling it a terrible contradiction.

 Meanwhile, a group of local stations' advisory board members from
 Los Angeles, Berkeley and New York is pressing ahead with a
 lawsuit intended to reverse Pacifica's recent governance changes
 that eliminated local say on the national board. Oakland attorney
 Dan Siegel will file suit within the next few days to restore the
 last shred of local control at Pacifica: the ability of local
 station boards to recommend members to the national board. Seigel
 will also attend the press conference. "Pacifica, when faced with
 the question of changing its method of choosing its leadership,
 opted for the least democratic option imaginable. It is time to
 revisit this issue, and it should be unnecesssary to require a
 court order to do so," Siegel said.

 Yesterday, Pacifica national board chair Dr. Mary Frances Berry
 arrived in Oakland, told neither staff nor listeners of her
 visit, and attempted to negotiate with KPFA's union leaders. Shop
 stewards met with Berry to remind her of her promise to meet with
 the KPFA steering committee, which both listeners and staff have
 designated as their representative, and refused to negotiate
 further.

 KPFA paid staff, volunteers, local advisory board members,
 subscribers, and listeners will continue to press Pacifica to:



 1) Rehire respected KPFA station manager Nicole Sawaya, whose
 termination touched off massive protests in Berkeley and the
 firing of two veteran programmers because they violated
 Pacifica's on-air "gag rule";

 2) Participate in mediation and allow for investigation of the
 dispute between local interests and the national bureaucracy; and
 3) Reverse the disciplinary or adverse actions taken against KPFA
 and Pacifica staff since Sawaya's termination.

And the referenced lettre:


 Letter Regarding
 Proposed Pacifica SALE




 The following letter was sent to Andrea Buffa, the Executive
 Director of Media Alliance. As the header notes the intention was
 apparently for Michael Palmer of the Pacifica Board to send it to
 Mary Berry the chair of the board. Efforts to determine its
 veracity have been pursued by many actors through many
 avenues...as of yet final authenticity is not absolutely
 certain...the principals are not answering calls, but traces of
 the source do accord with this being a real letter...see: Related
 Press Release





  
 --

 From: Palmer, Micheal @ Houston Galleria,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mary Francis Berry', [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hello Dr. Berry,

 I salute your fortitude in scheduling a news conference
 opportunity in the beloved Bay Area regarding one of the most
 pressing issues of our time

 But seriously, I was under the impression there was support in
 the proper quarters, and a definite majority, for shutting down
 that unit and re-programming immediately. Has that changed? Is
 there consensus among the national staff that anything other than
 that is acceptable/bearable? I recall Cheryl saying that the
 national staff wanted to know with certitude that they supported
 100% by the Board in whatever direction was taken; what direction
 is being taken?

 

[CTRL] After Tiananmen

1999-07-15 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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 WSWS : News  Analysis : Asia : China

 A hand held out to Beijing: US policy after Tiananmen Square

 By James Conachy
 15 July 1999

 Back to screen version

 Censored US State Department documents from 1985-1989, obtained
 under Freedom of Information legislation and now published on the
 Internet, provide a damning indictment of the conduct of the
 Republican administration of President George Bush in the
 aftermath of the Tiananmen Square massacre.

 The documents prove that the US government was not concerned with
 the suppression of the Chinese working class, but the possibility
 that it may cause disruptions to the political, military and
 economic relations developed with the Beijing regime since 1971.

 In the days immediately following the military assault on the
 capital, with virtually every urban centre of China convulsed
 with protests and demonstrations, US officials were preoccupied
 with trying to assess whether Deng Xiaoping would get away with
 the military crackdown or whether it had aggravated the social
 and political tensions in China to the point of civil war.

 Cables and summaries on June 6 itself are dominated by reports,
 later to be downplayed, that fighting was breaking out between
 the 27th Army deployed by Deng Xiaoping into Beijing and other
 military units sympathetic to the students and workers. A summary
 prepared for the US Secretary of State refers to the Chinese
 government and military heads as feeling like “they are fighting
 for their lives” and surrounding their residences with armoured
 vehicles and troops.

 From June 9, following the first public appearance and a speech
 by Deng Xiaoping, the US officials became convinced that the
 regime would survive and Washington responded accordingly.

 On June 30, Undersecretary of State Lawrence Eagleburger and
 national security advisor Brent Scowcroft made a secret visit to
 Beijing for discussions with Deng Xiaoping. The day before, the
 State Department prepared a document entitled “Themes”, to
 provide the Chinese government with an outline of the US attitude
 toward what it described only as “the recent developments”.

 It makes little mention, and no condemnation, of the murder of
 thousands of Chinese workers and students. The document openly
 states that “how the GPRC (Government of the Peoples Republic of
 China) decides to deal with those of its citizens involved in
 recent events in China, is, of course, an internal affair” and
 refers to the personal friendship that president Bush had with
 “so many of China's leaders”.

 It details the mutual foreign policy interests shared by the US
 and China, such as blocking Soviet influence in North Korea and
 Asia generally, assisting China in dealing with what are
 described as “Vietnamese threats to China's interests” and
 facilitating better relations with Japan.

 In reference to the limited diplomatic sanctions imposed by the
 US following the massacre, it states that president Bush “wants
 to manage the short-term events in a way that will ensure a
 healthy relationship over time”. It warns China, however, of the
 pressure on the president by both public opinion and elements in
 the US Congress, and the “demands for legislation to end many
 aspects of our economic, military and political relationship”.

 It assures Beijing that president Bush will “resist these
 pressures” and concludes by stating that the “degree to which the
 President is able to maintain his current prudent course will
 depend, in large measure, on how events develop over the coming
 weeks in the PRC. Further arrests and executions will inevitably
 lead to greater demands in the US to respond. Efforts at national
 reconciliation, on the other hand, will find a cooperative US
 response.”

 The cooperative US response was forthcoming regardless of the
 fact that arrests and executions did not halt in the slightest.
 By 1990 investment was entering China at an unprecedented rate to
 exploit a subdued working class, facilitated by the open US
 market.

 This is the actual historical record that should be considered
 whenever official concerns are expressed in Washington regarding
 human rights in China.





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The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking
new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust
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"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said
it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your
own reason and your common sense." --Buddha
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A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled
one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller,
   German Writer (1759-1805)
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[CTRL] Fw: Interviews on Skull Bones: Antony Sutton Eric Samuelson

1999-07-15 Thread Nicky Molloy





-Original Message-From: 
Timothy Aho [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Watch 
Unto Prayer [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 
Wednesday, 7 July 1999 13:24Subject: Interviews on Skull  
Bones: Antony Sutton  Eric Samuelson 
To: The Watchmen
From: Watch Unto Prayer[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://watch.pair.com/pray.htmlDate: 
July 6, 1999

Antony Sutton, author of America's Secret Establishment, has 
pioneered research and exposure of the internationally powerful Order of Skull 
 Bones. The following interview of Mr. Sutton was conducted by Kris 
Millegan, whose web site also carries extensive information on the Skull  
Bones secret society. Another worthwhile source of information regarding 
Antony Sutton and Skull  Bones promises to be John Bryant's interview of 
conspiracy research scholar, Eric Samuelson. To hear this two 
hour live interview, tune in tomorrow -- Wednesday, July 7 -- 
to Truth Radio Network:

http://www.truthradio.com/index2.html

Liberty Forum with John Bryant can be heard via Internet 
at 4:00-6:00 p.m. Pacific Time, 6:00-8:00 p.m. Central Time and 7:00-9:00 
Eastern Time. (For instructions on downloading RealPlayer Radio, 
click on the Listen! icon at the top of the Truth Radio Network Home 
Page.) The Truth Liberty Forum is also available on Satellite C 
Band Spacenet 4, Channel 19, Audio 7.58 and on FM stations in Fresno, 
Calif. and Monroe, La. (See Radio Broadcasting list on the Truth Radio Network 
web site.).




An interview with Antony C. Sutton, Researcher 
Emeritus
By Kris Millegan Conspiracy Theorist Research, 
Radical and Singer-Songwriter (and author of best Bones piece on the 
Net)http://site034145.primehost.com/articles/0997/skullbones.htmJuly 
1, 1999Little Red Hen (ALL RIGHTS RESERVED)
Well, now, ain't life grand here in these United States. Now, I don't 
know but I do believe I am being told, by our corporate media, that George 'W' 
Bush is gonna be the next president and there ain't nothing us peons can do 
about it. 'W' has already got the cash and all the 'friends' a guy could want. 
Billy-boy has shown that personal peccadilloes don't matter. And, gee whiz, 'W's 
were just youthful indiscretions anyway. 
The Mighty Wurlitzer is playing loud and strong; Project 
Mockingbird has come home to roost and it looks as though a foreign secret 
society will for the third time put their 'juvenile' in the White House. The 
latest 'spin' has 'W' just being a president of his ol' college frat house, DKE, 
who maybe did some strange initiation rituals--yeah, right,--ya wanna buy a 
bridge . .?
George 'W' Bush is a member of a 167-year old secret society at Yale 
University, Skull and Bones. Skull and Bones, has been shown to be founded as a 
chapter of a secret society based in Germany. Some say it is just a college 
club; other say much more and point to 'W's grandfather's filching of Geronimo's 
remains; of the financing of Nazis and Communism; of drug smuggling; of 
eugenics; of manipulation of our social and political arenas through the 
Hegelian method of thesis, antithesis--resulting towards the desired 
synthesis--a New World Order;--and more . . .
But then this is not just a story about 'W', or Skull and Bones, but 
also the story of a courageous man, his dutiful journey and consequent battles 
with the powers-that-be.
Antony C. Sutton, 74, has been persecuted but never prosecuted for 
his research and subsequent publishing of his findings. His mainstream career 
was shattered by his devotion towards uncovering the truth. In 1968, his 
Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development 
was published by The Hoover Institute at Stanford 
University. Sutton showed how the Soviet state's technological and manufacturing 
base, which was then engaged in supplying the North Vietnamese the armaments and 
supplies to kill and wound American soldiers, was built by US firms and mostly 
paid for by the US taxpayers. From their largest steel and iron plant, to 
automobile manufacturing equipment, to precision ball-bearings and computers, 
basically the majority of the Soviet's large industrial enterprises had been 
built with the United States help or technical assistance.
Professor Richard Pipes, of Harvard, said in his book, 
Survival Is Not Enough: Soviet Realities and America's 
Future (Simon  Schuster;1984): In his 
three-volume detailed account of Soviet Purchases of Western Equipment and 
Technology . . . [Antony] Sutton comes to conclusions that are uncomfortable for 
many businessmen and economists. For this reason his work tends to be either 
dismissed out of hand as 'extreme' or, more often, simply 
ignored.
The report was too much and Sutton's career as a well-paid member of 
the academic establishment was under attack and he was told that he would 
not survive.
His work led him to more questions than answers. Why had the US 
built-up it's enemy? Why did the US build-up the Soviet Union, while we also 
transferred technology to Hitler's Germany? Why does Washington want to conceal 
these 

[CTRL] Sharing the Wealth ...

1999-07-15 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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... of knowledge, technology, whathaveyou

From World Tribune


 Key N. Korean missile parts "made in Japan," lawmakers charge


 July 14, 1999

 By Edward Neilan
 Special to World Tribune.com

 TOKYO--Globalization is already a fact of life in the
 international missile and military armaments "community."

 Or, put another way, no country's military weapons arsenal is
 completely homemade; every nation relies on some imports, some
 more than others.

 This was the point made indirectly by two young Japanese members
 of the Diet's upper House of Councillors recently at a press
 conference promoting their article in the current issue of a
 leading political magazine on "Japanese components used in North
 Korean Taepodong missile." Ichita Yamamoto,41, and Keichiro Asao,
 35, are bringing a new level of transparency to discussion of
 security affairs. Previously, such debate on North Korea's
 missiles was virtually taboo for a range of political and social
 reasons, not the least being the complications surrounding
 Japan's 600,000-strong Korean minority.

 All that changed last Aug. 31 when Pyongyang launched a
 three-stage rocket, part of which flew over Japan into the
 Pacific Ocean. North Korea said its rocket was fired to send a
 satellite into orbit, but Japan said it was for testing a
 Taepodong missile.

 The event lifted the lid on a debate in Japan over what to do
 about the threat from its next-door neighbor. In their article,
 lawmakers Yamamoto and Asao claim key parts of the Taepodong and
 North Korean semi-submersible boat used in a raid on South Korea
 were "Made in Japan."

 For that matter, each of the spy boats was powered by three
 U.S.-made Mercury marine engines.

 The youthfulness shown by the lawmakers was enhanced by the fact
 that they were speaking fluent English, a rarity among Diet
 members. Both were educated in the United States---Yamamoto at
 Georgetown University and Asao at Stanford University.

 "We're still too young to be taken seriously by our political
 colleagues, but we'll get there," said Yamamoto, who has held a
 Councillor seat for four years.

 As for a suggestion to directly cut off remittances from Korean
 residents in Japan to the North, both said it was too politically
 sensitive a step at this time.

 "If North Korea persists in its missile testing, such steps can
 be weighed," said Asao.

 The pair did not allege that Japanese manufacturers knew their
 products were ending up in North Korean missiles and other
 weapons. Many such components are sold on an "off the shelf"
 basis and do not require documentation.

 A Japanese military analyst attending the press conference
 claimed that Japanese components were used in the U.S. Patriot
 missiles deployed in the Gulf War.

 "Semiconductor chips in sophisticated missiles can come from a
 variety of sources--U.S., Japan, South Korea or Taiwan,"he said.

 North Koreans can openly buy parts in the electronics bazaar at
 Tokyo's Akihabara district and ship them to the North on
 Pyongyang's own shipping line which sails regularly from Niigata
 Port on the Sea off Japan.

 Because Japan has no security law, a variety of sophisticated
 radar, sonar and other guidance systems can be purchased openly
 and sent to the North and assembled into completed missiles.

 There have been reports that a Pyongyang test of a Taepodong-2
 missile, with a range of 4,000 to 6,000 miles, is imminent. Other
 reports have suggested China is asking North Korean leader Kim
 Jong Il to refrain from raising tensions on the Korean Peninsula
 through another missile test.

 But analysts point out that raising tensions, then backing off,
 repeatedly, has been the North's policy scenario played for
 nearly 50 years since the Korean War gunfire ended in an uneasy
 truce.

 Japan needs to demonstrate deterrence and diplomacy toward North
 Korea but so far neither seems to be a visible reality.

 Will it take a direct hit in Hibiya Park by a yet-to-be-tested
 Taepodong-4 to stir the Diet into meaningful action on this
 issue?

 Edward Neilan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is a veteran journalist,
 based in Tokyo, who covers East Asia and writes weekly for World
 Tribune.com.

 July 14, 1999


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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #3

1999-07-15 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990715c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Hey, SkeptiChat subscribers: let's see some responses, some discussion!!
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: No Y2K consultants went postal during the production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Russia struggles with laggard Y2K program. Russia is in deep trouble with
  its Y2K preparations and could be facing economic chaos as a result. The
  country has neither the time nor money to make the appropriate fixes in
  either the public or private sector. http://www.silicon.com/a31517

: Is Russia doomed, a test-bed for Armageddon? How much would you pay for
Russia? Can we sell Russia to the Reptilioids? Would they want it? Why not?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Russians create new heavy element. (BBC) Scientists have created a new
  element in the periodic table which has 114 protons. Bob Lazar objects:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_395000/395320.stm

# Also: New superheavy elements created:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_363000/363968.stm
@ Links: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory: http://www.lbl.gov/
@ Table of Elements: http://www.chemsoc.org/viselements/index.htm

: Is Russian science beyond the carrying capacity of the nation? Can Element
114 create time warps, reverse environmental collapse, battle superstition??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Neo-NAZI Shooters Are Stooges Of British Commonwealth Secret Services.
  Benjamin Nathaniel Smith, who died July 4 after a Midwest racist shooting
  spree, was a member of the "World Church of the Creator." The group had
  gone out of existence in the 1991-93 period, and was revived under the
  direct control of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS),
  Canada's domestic intelligence agency, acting in partnership with other
  British Commonwealth secret services. Canada's intelligence services
  report directly to Britain's Queen Elizabeth II, and to the British
  secret services. http://www.sightings.com/politics4/nail.htm

: Ah, but who controls the Queen? What's the real power behind Euro.royals?
Do UK  Dutch royals really control the world's drug trade, or vice-versa?
Are all the BBC news items cited in this bulletin just their disinformation?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# ROAD RAGE CAN TURN US ALL INTO BEASTS BEHIND THE WHEEL. Most of us - even
  those classified as "low-anger" - exhibit a lot of angry behavior when we
  get behind the wheel. The good news is that even the angriest can learn to
  control this behavior - if they realize that they have a problem. Or die
  trying: http://healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=14234

: Does driving turn you into a GOD, with the power of life and death? Every
pedestrian you don't run down - have you granted them life? Every wheelchair
you sideswipe, every rabbit  armadillo you cream - have you become Death??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Revealed - BBC Booked Julie Andrews For Doomsday Entertainment. National
  anthem? Too solemn. Disco hit Stayin' Alive? Frivolous. BBC execs liked
  the music of Julie Andrews when they chose shows to be aired if Britain
  came under nuclear attack. The BBC, it has emerged, distributed a supply
  of comedy, drama  religious programmes to an underground network of radio
  stations intended to maintain morale while survivors of a nuclear blast
  sheltered in their cellars. The cache, packed in black boxes, included The
  Sound of Music, Andrews's 1965 hit. The secret schedule was intended to be
  broadcast for up to 100 days of nuke.war. The radio stations, equipped
  with iron rations, pingpong and bunk beds, were maintained until 1993.
  Then the Cold War ended. http://www.sightings.com/politics4/booked.htm

: Would you rather hear SOUND OF MUSIC for 100 days straight, or be nuked?
What entertainment would you choose? What would Reptilioids like to hear?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# FDA DELETES ONE INTERNET HEALTH CON-ARTIST. There are many bogus health
  claims on the Internet - but here is an example of out and out fraud. The
  FDA recently cracked down on somebody selling phony HIV home-test kits -
  but, unfortunately, there will probably be lots more con-artists to take
  his place. http://healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=14235

: Do you buy medical products off the Net? Is the choice: your money or your
life? Do you sell bogus medical products? Do you conspire to destroy humans?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ SUBTERRANEA BRITANNICA. (Sub-Brit) Formed in 1974, Subterranea Britannica
  is a society devoted the the study and investigation of man-made and man-
  used underground places. It brings together people with an interest in all
  types of underground space - from deneholes to dug-outs and from souter-
  rains to subways. Indeed, as the list shows, there are at least seventy
  categories of underground 

Re: [CTRL] East Texas

1999-07-15 Thread William Shannon

 -Caveat Lector-

I hear there are plenty of small east Texas towns where black folk amble in
only to ne'r be heard from again...especially if they stay after
darkkinda creepy no???

Bill.

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #4

1999-07-15 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990715d - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

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: No cropcircle-making entities appeared during production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Boy In Holland Claims To Have Witnessed Crop-Circle Formation. And what he
  saw is just incredible! A small, misty pinkish-purple light, like a small
  football, floating across an enormous field to this spot about 50 meters
  behind his house. And this is where snow circles occurred a couple years
  ago, and a circle in mustard seed last spring, and a couple of circles in
  other crops nearby. It came right back to this area and stopped, "hanging"
  in the air over this spot. Then, it started to elongate, spread out, be-
  coming thinner and thinner looking like a disc, and then he saw a sharp
  electrical discharge. http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/cropform.htm

@ Crop Circle Comes Down In Nashville TN. This site is about the crop circle
  that appeared recently in Brentwood Tennessee, a suburb of Nashville, app-
  roximately 5 miles south of downtown Nashville on I-65. This crop circle
  lies quite near to the Interstate itself. http://cdfnet.com/cropcircle/

: Do you like making crop circles near interstate highways because of the
easy access? Have you ever been caught? Do you blame the mind-control rays?
Do you use electric footballs? Do you drug witnesses? What's your agenda??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Functions of PC put on single chip. SANTA CLARA, CA (AP) National Semicon-
  ductor Corp. unveiled a new computer chip that puts most of the functions
  of a PC on a single chip, a move that will bring more power and function-
  ality to small information devices. NSC is targeting the chip for use in
  "information appliances" such as TV set-top boxes, hand-held information
  devices such as the Palm Pilot, and, eventually, car navigation systems.
  See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560300031-40a

: How small will PCs go? Would an array of these chips make a cheap super-
duper-computer? Do you want an array of these implanted in your head? When?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# ALL THE NEWS THAT'S FIT TO WEAR. A German company develops the ultimate
  tool for reporters: a wearable device that delivers you-are-there coverage
  of breaking news. Or just get a shortwave radio implanted in your head:
  http://wired.com/news/news/explode-infobeat/technology/story/20748.html

# BREAKING THE LANGUAGE BARRIER. International scientists test a translation
  system that can convert the babble of up to six languages. Curses too? A
  wearable version is aimed at travelers. Get THAT one implanted fast - see
  http://wired.com/news/news/explode-infobeat/technology/story/20747.html

: Do you want to be wirelessly, seamlessly wired into the entire world, with
no language barriers? Should we all be? Will we become a group-mind? When?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiBriefs:

# Some Plants Found To Have Nervous Systems Like Humans. Plants have nervous
  systems similar to those found in humans and animals, according to a gov't
  scientist who's identified and cloned a dozen genes responsible for nerve-
  like signals in plants. The research may lead to the development of plants
  that won't get stressed out by bugs or bad weather. Scientists have long
  suspected that plants possess some sort of nervous system. Further studies
  could lead to the engineering of crops that could be naturally resistant
  to insects and disease. "These crops may eliminate the use of pesticides."
  And they're fun to torture: http://sightings.com/politics4/plants.htm

# HOUSE LEADER SCORNS UN NET TAX PLAN. House Majority Leader Dick Armey came
  out swinging against a United Nations proposal to tax email and funnel the
  cash to developing nations. "Let them eat cake," he hip-hopped, snarling.

  http://wired.com/news/news/explode-infobeat/politics/story/20739.html

# WIZARDS OF OS MEET IN BERLIN. Open source  freeware faiths meet academia
  when the Wizards of OS conference brings techies together with artists and
  theorists. These folks are inventing the future while nobody's watching:
  http://www.wired.com/news/news/explode-infobeat/culture/story/20727.html

# Cell Phone On Your Belt Brings Radiation To Guts. LEAVING a mobile phone
  clipped to your waist leads to a hotspot of radiation being pumped into
  the liver and kidneys. Yet thousands of people are now attaching mobiles
  to their belts as they switch to hands-free kits, thinking they are safer.
  The changeover came after warnings that the brain can be affected by
  harmful rays if users spend too long with their mobiles clamped to their
  ear. But using a phone while it is clipped to your belt could be even MORE
  dangerous. Baked  broiled: 

[CTRL] More gubbmint' intrusion...

1999-07-15 Thread William Shannon

 -Caveat Lector-

Why can't the republicans in Congress STOP sticking their upturned noses into
the PRIVATE LIVES of the American people???
Exactly WHO wants "big government"?
Not me, and it seems the "liberals" are of similar opinion...hmmm...
Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] East Texas

1999-07-15 Thread Amelia Edgeman

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Bill,
Can you please give sources or some verification of this that you have
heard?  Otherwise, I would think folks in East Texas are offended.  I have
not heard of any regions in our country where folks just disappear.  Would
be rather like a Bermuda Triangle on land.
Amelia


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Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] East Texas


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 I hear there are plenty of small east Texas towns where black folk amble
in
 only to ne'r be heard from again...especially if they stay after
 darkkinda creepy no???

 Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] Re Christie Todd Whitman

1999-07-15 Thread Amelia Edgeman

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Prudy,
I could be mistaken, of course.  Was fairly certain I had read it.  My
Internet Service Provider is rather like two tin cans connected by a string
that we made as children.  I receive chunks of e mail sometimes out of
sequence.  Do others have this problem?
Amelia


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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Re Christie Todd Whitman


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  S I saw the previous post.  It came through just fine. 

 That's really odd.  I kept getting messages from the listing that they
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Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] [[SC] Skeptic News - Wednesday #1]]

1999-07-15 Thread Tenorlove

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bicycle breeding

Sounds awfully painful.
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Re: [CTRL] G.W.Bush-Foot firmly in mouth.

1999-07-15 Thread Tenorlove

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My mother had a restrictive covenant on her house in Nebraska. It
stated that if any drinking or gambling took place on the property, it
would revert back to the estate of the seller's grandmother, who
originally owned the land on which the house was built. My mother
discovered it during the closing. Her realtor (this was back in the
days before lawyers handled real estate closings) told her that in
order to get it removed, she would have to get a lawyer and go to
court, it would delay the closing, it would be expensive, etc.
Nebraska's liquor laws being what they were (dry Sundays), the fact
that the state had just raised the drinking age to 20 and the fact that
I, then 16, would be living in the house, the request would probably
have been denied. Since it involved behavior, not physical attributes,
it may have actually been enforceable. The realtor also said the title
insurance would cover legal costs if the seller tried to take back the
house. The seller went off to Africa on mission,  I partied quite
hearty in that house, with nary a repercussion. Bush probably felt like
my mother, it was too big a pain in the butt to bother.
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[CTRL] Kosovo news from Fr. Sava (fwd)

1999-07-15 Thread William Hugh Tunstall

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-- Forwarded message m

 Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 22:39:45 +0200
 From: "Fr. Sava" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Two Alarming Kosovo Reports,  July 12 and 13, 1999

 THE REPORT FROM LIPLJAN, KOSOVO

 July 12, 1999

 Today, on the Feast Day of SS Apostles Peter and Paul, I served a Holy
 Liturgy in my parish church in Lipljan together with my colleague priest
 Fr. Zivojin Kojic (from 8.00  9.30 a.m). The church was almost full of
 people. At that time a larger group of Albanians, which were not from
 Lipljan, began gathering in the main streets of Lipljan, in the areas
 where Serb inhabitants live (95%). This gathering soon turned into a
 riot against the local Serb population and was continued with burning of
 several Serb houses, throwing of Molotov cocktails and real bombs in
 Serb homes and courtyards. True, the Albanians had announced their
 "peaceful demonstrations" two days ago, but this were not peaceful
 demonstrations but a real terror.

 Around 11.00 several Serb houses were stoned in Aca Marovic Street and
 Kosovska Street. The Molotov cocktails were thrown on four Serb houses.
 The owners of these houses are: Bozidar Aksic, Slavisa Simionovic, Zoran
 Brkljac and Ilija Cepkenovic (all from Lipljan) as well as on the
 building owned by Ljubinko Andjelkovic, a Serb from Lipljan too. Three
 houses have almost completely burned down while the fire in Cepkenovic
 house as well as in the building was put down by the local Serbs.

 At 13.30 unidentified Albanians threw a bomb on the house of Miladin
 Mladenovic. In this incident his son Zoran Mladenovic (32) and his
 friend Djordje Kocinac (33) were wounded. The latter is an IDP from
 Stimlje. The both wounded Serbs were transported by  KFOR soldiers to a
 British military hospital in Lipljan where they were given a medical
 treatment. Soon after a bomb was thrown on the house of Ognjen Todic. In
 this bomb attack Milutin Kostic (44) was seriously wounded. He was also
 taken by KFOR to the military hospital but was immediately transported
 by a helicopter to Skopje. The third bomb was thrown on the house of
 Ljubomir Smiljic, but thank God, it did not explode and was deactivated
 by KFOR patrol later.

 Miladin Mladenovic (53) was brutally beaten by unidentified Albanians
 while he was on his way to visit his wounded son and his friend who were
 in the KFOR hospital in Lipljan. He was seriously injured around his
 neck and ear. Another Serb, Novica Savic (70) was beaten by Albanians in
 the field near his house in Novo Toplicane village. In this incident
 Novica Savic was seriously wounded by a knife. He was given a medical
 treatment in the military hospital. The KFOR soldiers reportedly told
 him that he was lucky because he was not taken to prison. According to
 their words, he used his gun in self defense. In  fact, the weapons was
 not used by him but by one relative of his who wanted to protect him.

 With great regret we must say that on all our requests KFOR was not
 effective enough to prevent burning of homes and the mentioned bomb
 attacks. We admit that the KFOR patrol deactivated an unexploded bomb
 and took the statements from the eye witnesses.

 At 18.00 KFOR authorities convened a meeting with Serbs in Novo Naselje
 in Lipljan and asked from Serbs to give over their weapons until 9.00 on
 July 13. When the local Serbs asked explanation about these incidents in
 Lipljan the KFOR officer did not say anything but only kept insisting
 that the weapons should be given over to KFOR. He said: "I am not a
 politician but a soldier."

 These tragic events disturbed the Serb population which is a majority
 population in Lipljan because Serbs understand these demonstrations as
 provocations and the burning of their homes and armed attacks by
 Albanians as an organized campaign of expulsion of the Serb majority
 population from Lipljan.

 During the previous days we have demanded the protection from the local
 KFOR command in Lipljan. Our Bishop Rt. Rvrd. Artemije personally
 contacted Brigadier Bailey who in his turn personally and with a letter
 reassured the Bishop that the decisive steps would be undertaken to
 protect the Serb community in Lipljan. That was also conformed to us by
 a British KFOR colonel in Lipljan, sent by Brigadier Bailey. During the
 conversation Padre Brian Walton was also suggested to remain in contact
 with me as a local Lipljan priest. So far we have had only one contact
 during the distribution of the humanitarian aid for Rabovce village near
 Lipljan.

 Many of Albanian attackers seem not to be the native inhabitants of
 Lipljan. So far we have already reported the names of several Albanians
 from Lipljan and the neighboring villages who were organizing and
 leading such acts of violence. These are: Agim Tasholi from Bandulic
 village, Agron Gashi from Lipljan and Rasim Azemi from Lipljan.
 Reporting to you about this intensified wave of violence and terror by
 Albanian groups against 

Re: [CTRL] Re Christie Todd Whitman

1999-07-15 Thread Tenorlove

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Prudy, I got your message 3 times. There is a conspiracy afoot to
stress out email senders by making them believe their mail did not send
when it actually did. passes a large gin  tonic through the computer
to Prudy This will make the evil email conspiracy people go away.

Tenorlove
who would have passed the whole bottle over, but most of the gin found
its way to her mouth instead
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[CTRL] IFG Seattle Teach-In (fwd)

1999-07-15 Thread William Hugh Tunstall

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-- Forwarded message --
Subject: ESPFwd: IFG Seattle Teach-In

From: The International Forum on Globalization

The International Forum on Globalization (IFG) is
organizing a Teach-In on the World Trade Organization
(WTO), to be held in Seattle, Washington, on Saturday
November 27, 1999.  The event will take place at the
2,500-seat Benaroya Seattle Symphony Hall a few days
before the WTO Ministerial meeting.  Most of the
Teach-In events will be free to the public.

The Seattle Teach-In will focus on the problems of
economic globalization and, specifically, on the
activities of the WTO and other international agreements
and institutions.  Panels of speakers will address the
current failed economic model, and focus on areas such
as agriculture, the environment, human rights, labor
rights, consumer rights, food safety, public health, and
many more issues that are affected by the WTO.

We will keep you posted on more specific Teach-In
information as it develops.  The following is a partial
list of featured speakers:

Maude Barlow Council of Canadians - Canada

Walden Bello Focus on the Global South - Thailand

John Cavanagh  Institute for Policy Studies - U.S.

Tony Clarke Polaris Institute - Canada

Edward Goldsmith The Ecologist - U.K.

Randall Hayes Rainforest Action Network - U.S.

Colin Hines Protect the Local, Globally - U.K.

Martin Khor Third World Network - Malaysia

Andrew Kimbrell International Center for Technological
Assessment  - U.S.

David Korten People-Centered Development Forum  - U.S.

Tim Lang Center for Food Policy - U.K.

Sara Larrain RENACE (Chilean Ecological Action Network)
- Chile

Jerry Mander Public Media Center - U.S.

Anuradha Mittal Institute for Food and Development
Policy - U.S.

Helena Norberg-Hodge International Society for Ecology
and Culture - U.K.

Mark Ritchie Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy
- U.S.

Vandana Shiva Third World Network - India

Steven Shrybman West Coast Environmental Law - Canada

Victoria Tauli-Corpuz Indigenous Peoples' Network for
Policy and Education - Philippines

Lori Wallach Public Citizen - Global Trade Watch - U.S.

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[CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] PLOT TO ASSASSINATE GORE

1999-07-15 Thread William Shannon





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Subj:  Plot to Assassinate Vice President Gore?
Date: 7/15/1999 2:52:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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PLOT TO ASSASSINATE VICE PRESIDENT GORE?
by Sherman H. Skolnick,

Two or more airplanes were all headed reportedly for a crash with Air
Force Two carrying Vice President Albert Gore, Jr., as his plane flew over
the Chicago area  The incident apparently occurred July 9, 1999, but was
kept embargoed, that is, delayed or suppressed, until an eleven paragraph
story ran in the Chicago Sun-Times, July 14, 1999. So far, others in the
mass media have steered clear of the story? Why?

Like the murder of President Kennedy, were the mass media either
informed in advance or ordered how, if at all, to run the story?



One of two major newspapers in Chicago, the Sun-Times is owned by
British tough-nose financier Conrad Black jointly with reportedly
mysterious Red Chinese and ethnic Chinese billionaires who have an
unpublicized armlock on the Chicago markets. Their fortunes based
reportedly on dope smuggling into the U.S. primarily through Chicago, of
high purity heroin called "China White", clandestine weapons deals, and
the harvesting of human body parts sold to U.S. hospitals. The body
parts, sold as casually as auto pieces, are from political prisoners in
mainland China arbitrarily condemned to death as the orders come in for
hearts, livers, kidneys, and such. [So as not to damage the human body
parts, the political prisoners are not shot but rather, beheaded.]

The illicit funds are a massive river of loot reportedly laundered on the
Chicago Board of Trade, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, and the
Chicago Board Options Exchange.  Although an open secret, major
newspapers, such as the Sun-Times, and other financial papers like the
Wall Street Journal, publish virtually nothing about the Chinese and the
Chicago money laundries. The Chinese funds are disguised as soybeans
and foreign currency trading. Are the Chinese through the Sun-Times
story blackmailing Clinton into silence about nuclear secrets sold or given
to the Chinese?

Under a  headline "Quirk of radar jars VP's plane", the Sun-Times had
details such as "Gore was in the government 747 traveling from Seattle
back to Washington when the pilot received urgent instructions from air
traffic controllers to make a jarring 60 degree turn to avoid a crash. Radar
showed a second plane 25 miles away--only a couple of minutes apart--at
the same 33,000-foot altitude and in conflict with the vice president's
aircraft. Air Force Two was traveling about 600 m.p.h."

According to other sources, the FAA and the Sun-Times are reportedly
concealing that yet a third plane likewise almost crashed into Gore's
plane.


Aviation sources familiar with air traffic control say they never heard
of a situation where two or more airplanes were all headed for a crash
with another plane. Foul play, they contend, should rightfully be
suspected when two OR MORE airplanes were all somehow steered into a
possible crash with the Vice President's plane.


Here are some other factors that assassination researchers would
consider:

1. Reportedly fronting for the Chinese in Chicago in the reputed
clandestine deals as well as blackmail and extortion, is Rahm Emanuel,
for many years Clinton White House Senior Advisor and now a
heavy-hitter with Wasserstein  Perrella, Chicago unit of a New York
based financial services firm that reportedly handles deals for the Red
Chinese. Described as a campaign fund "fixer" and expert in blackmail,
Rahm Emanuel in recent statements seems cold to the idea of supporting
Gore as Presidential candidate in the 2000 election. {By the way, with
more expected dirty tricks like the apparent air crash scenario, there is no
guarantee that the 2000 election will be conducted just as usual.]

2. TheGore presidential campaign has, or is about to obtain, a reputed
picture clearly showing presidential hopeful George W. Bush, now Texas
governor and son of the elder Bush, snorting cocaine with Bill Clinton.
More and more people, of course, are becoming aware that Bill has been a
cocaine user whose nose is rodded out from the same. But it might come
as a campaign surprise, helpful to Gore, to show George W. with Clinton.
The picture, supplied by government agents, would open the whole
question of George Herbert Walker Bush and his sons, Jeb, Neal, and
George W., being involved with Clinton and others in dope smuggling
through the southern states including through the Mena, Arkansas airport
arranged by CIA. According to European publications, Jeb Bush, with his
Columbia-born wife, are reportedly implicated with known criminals in
Spain and elsewhere laundering dope 

[CTRL] AficanAmericanSuppressesAmericanHeritage[Virginia]a bard bomb on radical left

1999-07-15 Thread Bard

 -Caveat Lector-

Source:  Middle American News, July 1999, page 7

General Lee's Portrait Removed
subtitled:  America's Heritage Suppressed In Richmond, Virginia

A museum at Richmond, Virginia, former capital of the Confederacy, removed
an outdoor portrait of Gen. Robert E. Lee because a black city councilman
said it was offensive to "my community."  ['community' is a socialism
buzzword; klintoon and his spouse use it all the time]

The councilman, who says his name is "Sa'ad El-Amin," [no doubt a Muslim
(Moselm) with an African heritage] compared Gen. Lee to Adolf Hitler and
threatened to organize a boycott of the opening festivities planned for the
city's renovated downtown Canal Walk.

Lee's portrait was just one of 28 others on display as part of a mural on
Richmond's flood wall designed to celebrate the city's heritage.

Other portraits include Indian Chief Powhattan and Gabriel Prosser, a slave
who tried to lead a revolt.

As Middle Americans lose political and cultural influence in the u.S. under
the pressure of mass immigration and multiculturalist ideology, radical new
elites are suppressing and de-legitimizing the heritage they intend to
replace.

In just two recent incidents, George Washington's name was removed from
all-black [Negro]
school in Louisiana, and in [the PDR of] California, Aztec religious
displays [human sacrifices?] are being erected in public parks.

El-Amin said that after seeing a newspaper photograph of Gen. Lee's picture,
he met with James J. McCarthy [assume he is of European Caucasian heritage],
executive director of the Richmond Riverfront Development Corp. which is
responsible for renovating Canal Walk.  El-Amin told McCarthy, "Either it
comes down or we jam." [not sure what 'jam' means]

El-Amin says it is okay to put up pictures of Gen. Lee in private homes, but
not on public property.

"He is offensive to the African American [should have said, Americans of
Negro heritage]
community [that buzzword again] because of what he stood for." he said.

"It should be no earth-shattering revelation that African Americans [read
Americans of Negro heritage] are offended about the whole situation in which
we were dehumanized made into chattel property through slavery.  There was
no apology made for that and no reparations. [look out, folks! he wants to
suck of your tax dollars]  And Lee defended that."

Lee is universally regarded by scholars as one of history's brilliant
generals.

President Abraham Lincoln offered Lee command of the Union troops, but he
declined.

Lee, who owned no slaves, was superintendent at West Point, and was
president of Washington College, later renamed Washington and Lee.

His father, Henry "Lighthorse Harry" Lee, served in the Revolutionary Army
under George Washington, and was a congressman from Virginia who urged the
state to ratify the Constitution.

The suppression of the Lee portrait follows on the heels of an earlier
campaign by multiculturalists against Richmond's famed Monument Boulevard.
Dedicated to historical figures from the Confederacy including Lee,
Stonewall Jackson, Jeb Stuart and Jefferson Davis, the boulevard now
features a statue of a black [an American of Negro heritage] tennis player
from the 1970's.

Richmond, which is about 55 percent black [Americans of Negro heritage], has
been trying to attract businesses and tourists to the downtown area.

Visitors and tourists were chased away after a decade of shooting,
stabbings, and robberies.

[brackets] added by Bard.

Gonna limit my comment on the above to the apparent fact that the
good citizens of The Commonwealth of Virginia have been grossly
negligent in the protection of not only their heritage, but the
protection of all "Americans" heritage, inasmuch as The War of
Northern Aggression Against the South AKA The War Between the States
involved the entire Union.  I might add that it was NOT a Civil War
because neither of the two opposing factions fought for control of a central
governing authority.

Could comment more, but I have to watch my blood pressure. lol

I trust this article, if remembered at election time, will make
some small contribution to move you off you arses and go to
the Polling Place.

Think I'm racist?
Racists have an Agenda
to enslave you;
and my agenda, if you will,
is exposing the tax-sucking
scum of the radical left.
(read my Post on "..socialism as dreamed of
by Karl Marx")



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[CTRL] Fw: [TheEagle-L] Fwd: FULL ALERT 30 DAY WARNING

1999-07-15 Thread Nicky Molloy

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 FULL ALERT OF ALL U.S. ARMED FORCES, AMERICAN REVOLUTIONARY ARMY
 FORCES, LOCAL MILITIAS.
 
 We can expect a war in Asia at any moment.  This could include
 Korea(s), Taiwan, China and Japan.  The situation is still developing.
 
 China has threatened to use nuclear technology, and Taiwan has
 put its forces on alert.  This situation could deteriorate quickly
 as forces try to get the jump on Y2K degradation of forces.
 
 Meanwhile the American Revolution is still on track.  Ideally
 the ARA will be able to get control of many U.S. Continental
 Forces from the treasonous Pentagon led by the Treasonous
 Commander in Chief.
 
 The ARA has 4 Divisions in a parallel army ready to fight a guerrilla war
 for our sovereignty and freedom in the U.S.  We do not know what
 side CONUS U.S. Forces will take in the upcoming battles, but we
 know that the traitors in Washington will use any means to put down
 the rebellion.  We can only assume that Taiwan will be left to
 fend for themselves considering
 Clinton policy but the Asian situation is still developing.  A war
 in Asia may be a method of vacating questionable U.S. forces out
 of CONUS who might otherwise support the revolution.
 
 All personnel throughout the U.S. should begin inventory of family
 and personal items for their family and survival value.
 
 All personnel in the U.S. should begin a daily and weekly
 preparation calendar.  30 DAY WARNING
 
 
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Re: [CTRL] AficanAmericanSuppressesAmericanHeritage[Virginia]a bard bomb on radical left

1999-07-15 Thread Tenorlove

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klintoon and his spouse use it all the time

Mercy me, I thought it was klintoon and HER spouse! whips out church
fan  reaches for smelling salts
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[CTRL] Fwd: Re: Comments

1999-07-15 Thread Kris Millegan





A few comments from a former FAA inspector and activist against government
corruption:
What is being done to the Sanders is continuation of a pattern of government
corruption that I have documented for the past 20 years, in Unfriendly Skies,
Defrauding America, and Drugging America. This corruption continues because good
people won't get informed and speak out until it happens to them.

The hard-core corruption proven in these books, with input from dozens of
courageous people, could help if used in an imaginative manner. But unless people
help us in these other areas, there will be, and there are, many people like the
Sanders that are being tragically victimized.

Rodney Stich


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[CTRL] U.S. House Intelligence Panel Passes Encryption Bill

1999-07-15 Thread Shane A. Saylor, Eccentric Bard

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Thursday July 15 6:41 PM ET

U.S. House Intelligence Panel Passes Encryption Bill
Full Coverage
Internet Privacy


By Aaron Pressman

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The House Intelligence Committee Thursday approved
legislation to relax strict U.S. export limits on computer data scrambling
technology, watering down some of the bill's provisions but not adding a
controversial amendment opposed by high-tech companies and privacy
advocates.

Two years ago, the committee amended a similar measure to require that all
data scrambling products include a ``back door'' allowing law enforcement
and national security agencies to decode any message.

But Thursday, the committee decided not to add such a provision, which
companies argue is technically difficult and costly to meet and privacy
advocates fear would lead to surveillance abuses.

The committee did weaken the bill's relaxation of export limits on data
scrambling, or encryption, products. The committee also added a provision
allowing the government to require contractors to use encryption with ``back
door'' access in dealings with the government.

Three House committees have already approved the legislation with stronger
export limit relief.

The Intelligence Committee's version is not expected to be considered when
the full House considers the bill, likely in the fall. The House Rules
Committee is expected to send a version with stronger export relief approved
by other committees to the House floor.

None the less, supporters of greater encryption exports said the
Intelligence panel's change of heart from two years ago signaled the
strength of effort to relax the export limits.

``We've come a long way in two years,'' said Alan Davidson, staff counsel at
the nonprofit Center for Democracy and Technology. ``It's a significant
shift for the debate. The experts and the marketplace have demonstrated that
mandatory plain text access doesn't work.''

Encryption has become an increasingly critical means of securing global
communications and electronic commerce over the Internet. But law enforcers
and national security agencies fear criminals and terrorists will use
encryption to hide their nefarious activities.

The Clinton administration has taken a compromise approach, allowing weak
encryption products to be exported with exceptions for sales to companies in
certain industries like banking and health care. The administration has
allowed exports of strong encryption products that included a back door
access feature.

The bill being considered by the House, authored by Virginia Republican Bob
Goodlatte, would allow exports of any product that was generally available
from non-U.S. companies.

The Intelligence Committee junked that provision, replacing it with a rule
allowing export of medium strength products as long as the sellers reported
to the government who they sold the products to.

Companies have in the past opposed such a requirement, which is difficult to
follow for mass market software like Web browsers or e-mail programs that
are sold in retail stores and over the Internet to millions of customers.

The Intelligence version of the bill would also allow the President to
permit stronger encryption exports if doing so would not harm national
security.

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[CTRL] Part of Energy Dept. Budget Blocked

1999-07-15 Thread Shane A. Saylor, Eccentric Bard

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Thursday July 15 12:31 PM ET

Part of Energy Dept. Budget Blocked
By H. JOSEF HEBERT Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - In another fallout over allegations of Chinese espionage,
a House subcommittee today directed that $1 billion of the Energy
Department's budget be withheld until Congress reorganizes the department's
nuclear weapons programs.

Rep. Ron Packard, R-Calif., chairman of the House Appropriations
subcommittee on energy and water, said reforms to improve nuclear weapons
security were essential before the $1 billion in DOE operating funds will be
reinstated.

The subcommittee action was taken as the panel approved the fiscal 2000
energy and water appropriations bill. The legislation will be considered by
the full House in the coming months.

The Energy Department has a budget of about $18 billion, but most of that
goes to contractors. The $1 billion withheld for DOE operations represents a
large part of the department's direct, noncontractor spending.

The money is to be withheld until Congress restructures the department's
national security programs or establishes an independent agency to oversee
and manage their operations, Packard said.

There has been growing sentiment among lawmakers to create a largely
autonomous agency within the Energy Department responsible for nuclear
weapons programs, including operation of the three nuclear weapons labs and
security.

Energy Secretary Bill Richardson has said he is willing to accept in theory
creation of a semiautonomous agency as long as it's clear the energy
secretary has authority over the agency. He also wants security and
counterintelligence functions to be departmentwide and not confined to the
agency.

A largely Republican proposal gaining momentum in the Senate would create a
semiautonomous agency, but insulate it more from the rest of the department
than what Richardson has been willing to accept.

Meanwhile, some Republican members of the House, including Packard, would
prefer to have the nuclear programs taken away from the Energy Department
altogether, and create a totally independent agency.

But House members are divided on the issue.

Seven House committee and subcommittee chairmen wrote a letter to House
Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., this week urging him to oppose any effort to
restructure the Energy Department without further hearings and review.

Reps. Tom Bliley, R-Va., the Commerce Committee chairman, and F. James
Sensenbrenner Jr., R-Wis., the Science Committee chairman, warned against
trying to make ``quick fixes'' at the Energy Department that could harm
science research programs and hinder safety and environmental protection at
the weapons facilities.

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[CTRL] U.S. House Panel Tries To Force Anti-Spying Reform

1999-07-15 Thread Shane A. Saylor, Eccentric Bard

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Thursday July 15 5:17 PM ET

U.S. House Panel Tries To Force Anti-Spying Reform
By Vicki Allen

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. House of Representatives panel Thursday moved
to withhold $1 billion to force the Energy Department to overhaul its
counter-espionage programs after China's alleged theft of U.S. nuclear
secrets.

An Appropriations subcommittee agreed during a closed session to bar the
Energy Department from spending $1 billion of the roughly $4 billion it is
slated to use on nuclear weapons next fiscal year until its security
programs have been restructured or spun off to a separate agency.

Rep. Ron Packard, a California Republican who chairs the subcommittee,
accused the department of failing to protect weapon secrets ``through
chronic security and counter-intelligence problems,'' and said the money
should be blocked until reforms are made.

The nuclear weapons measure was part of a $20.2 billion bill to fund
programs at the Energy Department and Army Corps of Engineers in fiscal
2000, which starts Oct. 1.

The bill must go through the full committee and the House. The Senate in
June passed its version of the bill without the funding restriction.

Responding to reports of lax security at the Energy Department's nuclear
weapons laboratories and allegations China stole nuclear secrets over 20
years of espionage, Packard and some other Republicans want nuclear weapons
programs to be put under a separate agency.

Plans also circulated largely among Republicans to put weapons programs,
including the three nuclear weapons laboratories, under a semi-autonomous
agency within the Energy Department.

But other lawmakers urged a cautious approach to restructuring, with top
Republican and Democratic members of the House Commerce Committee and
Science Committee urging careful deliberations.

Energy Secretary Bill Richardson has said he would accept a semi-autonomous
operation within the agency, as long as the secretary keeps oversight of it.

Richardson expects compromise restructuring legislation to pass this year,
so ``this legislation will have no impact on DOE funding,'' his spokeswoman
said.

The Appropriations subcommittee in a statement after the closed meeting said
it also agreed to cut the department's nuclear weapons spending to $4
billion in fiscal 2000 from this year's $4.4 billion. That includes the $1
billion it would withhold.

The panel cut the department's overall nuclear defense spending -- including
cleanup of contaminated production sites and efforts to stem the spread of
nuclear weapons -- to $11.2 billion. That is down $1.2 billion from this
year and $1 billion below the White House request.

In another dig at the $18 billion Energy Department, which for years has
fended off efforts in Congress to abolish it altogether, the subcommittee
voted to slash spending for travel by contractors that carry out a number of
its operations.

After reports of excessive cost incurred by the agency's contractors, the
panel cut the travel allowance to $125 million next fiscal year from the
current $250 million.

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[CTRL] The Church and Jewish Ideology by Joseph Sobran

1999-07-15 Thread Bard




The Church and Jewish Ideology
(Reprinted from SOBRAN'S, May 1999, page 4)
The prevalent Jewish myth today is not the founding myth of Abraham 
or Moses on Sinai, but the story of Jewish persecution. In our time the Jews are 
defined less by ancestry than by "anti-Semitism," which is cited for many 
purposes, including the legitimation of the state of Israel. Most Zionists no 
longer claim that God gave the Holy Land to the Jews; instead they contend that 
the Jewish state is necessary as a haven for world Jewry.
According to this modern myth, the Jews are in no way responsible for 
their own unpopularity from ancient times. What, then, is the source of such 
persistent hostility to this fundamentally innocent people? Why, the Catholic 
Church, of course!
Many Jewish scholars find the seed of anti-Semitism in the Gospels of 
Matthew and John, where the Jews are depicted as engineering the Crucifixion, 
with the assistance of Romans who "know not what they do." Some Jews have even 
demanded that the offending passages be deleted from the Scriptures, not 
realizing (or caring) that Christians regard their holy books as off-limits to 
human editing. Others persist in blaming Pius XII for failing to condemn Nazism 
more strongly for its persecution of the Jews of Europe. The Catholic Church in 
particular has been targeted as the historic matrix of anti-Semitism; and 
unfortunately, many churchmen have accepted the role of defendant against 
accusers who will never acquit the Church or drop the case.
In recent years the Vatican has tried, as far as possible, to appease 
Jewish objections. The Second Vatican Council, mindful of Nazi crimes, 
proclaimed that today's Jews don't share the guilt of the Jews who conspired to 
murder Christ. Pope John Paul II has been especially eager to cultivate good 
relations with the Jews, even making an unprecedented visit to a Roman synagogue 
a few years ago. He has gone so far as to name Steven Spielberg's Schindler's 
List as one of his favorite films - though it contains scenes of nudity and 
simulated intercourse.
In this spirit, the Vatican last year promulgated We Remember, a 
statement of repentance for the failures of the Church and the mass of 
Christians during the Holocaust (or Shoah, the Hebrew word that has become 
current lately). Its theme was that "erroneous and unjust interpretations of the 
New Testament" have contributed to anti-Semitism; and that the Church, though 
never a party to persecution, should have done more to oppose the "unspeakable 
tragedy" of the Shoah, which "can never be forgotten." The statement also 
affirmed the Church's "very close bonds of spiritual kinship with the Jewish 
people" and the "Hebrew roots of [Catholic] faith."
Many Jews resented the statement's exculpation of the Church for the 
Shoah itself. The document distinguished sharply between regrettable Christian 
attitudes toward the Jews throughout European history (it made no reference to 
Jewish attitudes toward Christians) and the virulent nationalist and racialist 
anti-Semitism that arose in the nineteenth century. Predictably, a Jewish 
historian has rejected this distinction.
In an article in the April issue of Commentary, "The Pope, the 
Church, and the Jews," Robert S. Wistrich, professor of modern Jewish history at 
the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, attacks We Remember for defending Pius XII 
and for minimizing the Church's guilty role in fostering anti-Semitism through 
the ages. Wistrich belittles Pius's efforts to protect Jews as not only 
insufficient but lacking in "moral courage." As for the nineteenth-century 
anti-Semitic ideologies, they "presupposed a cultural framework that had been 
fashioned by centuries of medieval Christian theology, ecclesiastical policy, 
and popular religious myth."
This is nothing new for Commentary, which has previously carried 
articles blaming Christianity itself for the Holocaust. Wistrich doesn't cite, 
though he might as well have, the charge of the Jewish scholar Jules Isaac that 
"the permanent and latent source of anti-Semitism is none other than Christian 
religious teaching of every description, and the traditional, tendentious 
interpretation of the Scriptures." Isaac's work and influence helped shape the 
Second Vatican Council's statement about the Jews.
By such reasoning as Wistrich's, it would be easy to blame the Jews 
for bringing persecution on themselves. After all, they have been unpopular not 
only in Christian countries, but in pagan and Muslim lands. Cicero, Tacitus, 
Juvenal, and other Roman authors inveighed against them. They have repeatedly 
migrated to Christian countries and have been repeatedly expelled, for reasons 
that have usually had little to do with theology - though the obscene 
blasphemies against Christ and his mother in the Talmud, unique in religious 
literature, besides reflecting oddly on Jewish demands for Christian tolerance 
and for the cleansing of offensive passages in the 

[CTRL] Commission details possible terrorist threats against Americans (fwd)

1999-07-15 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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From:

http://wire.nj.com/cgi-bin/nj_nview.pl?/home1/wire/AP/Stream-Parsed/WASHINGTON/a0688_AM_DoomsdayThreat


Commission details possible terrorist threats against Americans

By DAVID BRISCOE
The Associated Press
07/14/99 3:05 PM Eastern

WASHINGTON (AP) -- An anthrax release in Boston, a North Korean
sale of nuclear bombs and an Iraqi nerve-agent attack on U.S.
troops were among the potential threats to Americans cited
Wednesday by a commission urging government action to combat such
risks.

"We are woefully unprepared, and we would like to see something
done before some incident occurs," said Sen. Arlen Specter, the
commission's vice chairman.

Specter, R-Pa., said he would introduce legislation Thursday to
tighten export controls on items that might be used to
manufacture heavily destructive weaponry and wants to have all
worldwide transactions recorded electronically.

The main proposals of the 12-member panel, headed by former CIA
Director John Deutch and including a wide range of government and
private nonproliferation experts, were disclosed in interviews
last week.

The commission on Wednesday released 265 pages of report and
documentation that spells out fears of potential doomsday
weaponry.

The material also details a plan to give the vice president the
lead role in preventing and dealing with the threat of weapons of
mass destruction, which the commission says has increased
markedly in recent years.

"We believe the country needs to be better protected," Deutch
said.

The commission concludes that the top levels of government are
"not effectively organized to combat proliferation" and
recommends the president appoint a "national director to combat
proliferation."

The director would coordinate diplomatic steps to stop the spread
of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. The director also
would oversee a special government panel, made up of assistant
secretaries from various agencies, that would seek to prevent the
targeting of Americans and to respond to any catastrophic attack
at home or abroad.

Deutch said placing the government's nonproliferation efforts
under a single budget and director would help in preparing to
deal with "a calamitous eventuality."

One commission member, former Democratic Sen. James Exon of
Nebraska, dissenting from the report's main recommendation, urged
greater Cabinet-level involvement and a nonproliferation director
who would report directly to the president.

"What has been crafted, in may opinion, is another lower-level
'working group,"' Exon said. He agreed with the extent of the
threat and proposed an even more aggressive response.

The proposal already has received a cool response at the
Pentagon. Deputy Defense Secretary John Hamre said last week that
the existing lines of authority are sufficiently clear and do not
require the appointment of a special coordinator.

Among the scenarios outlined in the report by the Commission to
Assess the Organization of the Federal Government to Combat the
Proliferation of Weapons of Mass Destruction:

--Anthrax is released in a Boston subway station during rush
hour, sending 6,000 people to hospital emergency rooms.

--Analysts estimate that North Korean scientists have assembled
10 nuclear weapons, and intelligence reports say North Korea is
planning to sell two.

--Iraqi President Saddam Hussein orders Scud missiles carrying
nerve agents fired upon U.S. troops in Turkey and Saudi Arabia.

--A disgruntled Russian scientist at Ozersk acquires 44 pounds of
highly enriched uranium and sells it to Iran.


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Re: [CTRL] socialism as dreamed of by Karl Marx. [a re-post for ...

1999-07-15 Thread TenebrousT

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In a message dated 7/15/99 4:15:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 All this, and Col. House was only the pawn of even BIGGER "invisible
  king-makers," namely the "Society of the Elect," governed for decades by
  Lords Cecil and Balfour -- British prime ministers both, and designers of
 the
  Royal Institute for International Affairs (of which the CFR is only the
  American wing) and a host of other "front groups," not only political but
  religious and even occult, which served the modern British imperial agenda
  even when allegedly fostering "Anglo-American collaboration."  (But since
  that agenda was being bankrolled by the Rothschilds, we need to include
them
  among the "Elect.") House took his diplomatic orders directly from Robert
  Cecil, Lord Salisbury, and was flattered to have been granted an entre into
  his "lofty" company.  Woodrow Wilson, in turn, took his orders from House.
  House's "think tank" called, I believe, the Inquiry, was born in WWI under
  Wilson and it continued to function as an Anglo-American "State Department"
  during Roosevelt's rise to power.  The Rothschilds used middlemen such as
  House to enlist wealthy Jewish Americans in the Anglo-American "New Deal"
 plan
  with which Roosevelt, being the political figurehead at the time, has
become
  identified.


One would then be forced to ask the question is the Anglo establishment still
in control of this country?  It seems to me that they had a stranglehold on
our "secret" agencies for years, right up through Angleton and Dulles.  Are
they still the ones that are directing American activities, or are they
merely a higher level player in the Internationalist arena?

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Re: [CTRL] AficanAmericanSuppressesAmericanHeritage[Virginia]a bardbomb onradical left

1999-07-15 Thread Bill

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The tax sucking scum are nowhere near limited to the radical
left, that is a farcical statement when it is considered
that boy george bush was the first to openly declare new
world order.  He and his ilk worship one thing and one thing
only and that is Conflict For Profit...you are prey to their
machinations it seems.  Consider The Prison Industry, very
wealthy and conservative constituents sucking tax all over
the place there; runaway law enforcement, All of it one
GREAT government Conservative Welfare Bestowal amounting to
simple slavery of the mass, and Much Much More!...here is a
little info you might find useful and it involves some of
the most conservative people in the history of the United
States:

On May 23, 1933, Congressman, Louis T. McFadden, brought
formal

 charges against the Board of Governors of the Federal
Reserve Bank system,
 The Comptroller of the Currency and the Secretary of
United States
  Treasury for numerous criminal acts, including but not
limited to,
  CONSPIRACY, FRAUD, UNLAWFUL CONVERSION, AND TREASON.

 The petition for Articles of Impeachment was thereafter
referred to
  theJudiciary Committee and has

 YET TO BE ACTED ON.

Congressman McFadden on the Federal Reserve
Corporation

Remarks in Congress, 1934

  AN ASTOUNDING EXPOSURE

Reprinted by permission 1978 Arizona Caucus Club

 Congressman McFadden's Speech

On the Federal Reserve Corporation

Quotations from several speeches made on the Floor of
the House of
 Representatives by the Honorable Louis T. McFadden of
Pennsylvania. Mr.
McFadden, due to his having served as Chairman of the
Banking and
  Currency Committee for more than 10 years, was the best
posted man on
these matters in America and was in a position to speak with
authority of the
vast ramifications of this gigantic private credit
monopoly. As
  Representative of a State which was among the first to
declare its freedom
   from foreign money tyrants it is fitting that
Pennsylvania, the cradle of
 liberty, be again given the credit for producing a son that
was not afraid to
hurl defiance in the face of the money-bund.

  WHEREAS Mr. McFadden was

  elected to the high office on both the Democratic and
Republican tickets,

   there can be no accusation of partisanship lodged against
him. Because

   these speeches are set out in full in the Congressional
Record, they carry

  weight that no amount of condemnation on the part of
private individuals

could hope to carry.

 The Federal Reserve-A Corrupt Institution

  "Mr. Chairman, we have in this Country one of the most
corrupt
institutions

   the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve
Board and the

   Federal Reserve Banks, hereinafter called the Fed. The
Fed has cheated

  the Government of these United States and the people of
the United States

out of enough money to pay the Nation's debt. The
depredations and

iniquities of the Fed has cost enough money to pay the
National debt

several times over.

"This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the
people of these

   United States, has bankrupted itself, and has practically
bankrupted our

  Government. It has done this through the defects of the
law under which it

 operates, through the maladministration of that law by the
Fed and through

the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who
control it.

"Some people who think that the Federal Reserve Banks
United States

 Government institutions. They are private monopolies which
prey upon the

 people of these United States for the benefit of
themselves and their

   foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and
swindlers; and

 rich and predatory money lender. In that dark crew of
financial pirates there

   are those who would cut a man's throat to get a dollar
out of his pocket;

there are those who send money into states to buy votes
to control our

 legislatures; there are those who maintain International
propaganda for the

  purpose of deceiving us into granting of new concessions
which will permit

 them to cover up their past misdeeds and set again in
motion their gigantic

  train of crime.

   "These twelve private credit monopolies were deceitfully
and disloyally

  foisted upon this Country by the bankers who came here
from Europe and

  repaid us our hospitality by undermining our American
institutions. Those

  bankers took money out of this Country to finance Japan in
a war against

 Russia. They created a reign of terror in Russia with our
money in order to

  help that war along. They instigated the separate peace
between Germany

  and Russia, and thus drove a 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Re: Comments

1999-07-15 Thread Bill

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Everybodys waking up at once...BOOM!

Kris Millegan wrote:

   

 Subject: Re: Comments
 Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:16:51 -0700
 From: Rodney Stich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: Diablo Western Press
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 A few comments from a former FAA inspector and activist against government
 corruption:
 What is being done to the Sanders is continuation of a pattern of government
 corruption that I have documented for the past 20 years, in Unfriendly Skies,
 Defrauding America, and Drugging America. This corruption continues because good
 people won't get informed and speak out until it happens to them.

 The hard-core corruption proven in these books, with input from dozens of
 courageous people, could help if used in an imaginative manner. But unless people
 help us in these other areas, there will be, and there are, many people like the
 Sanders that are being tragically victimized.

 Rodney Stich

 Rodney Stich, E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.unfriendlyskies.com
 http://www.defraudingamerica.com
 http://www.druggingamerica.com

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Re: [CTRL] The Church and Jewish Ideology by Joseph Sobran

1999-07-15 Thread Bill

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WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE BIBLE AND THE TORAH AGAINST THE
LIBRARY OF ALEXANDRIA, THERE ARE NO REALISTIC CORRELATIONS
POSSIBLE FOR US, AND THOSE REMNANT DOCUMENTS AMOUNT TO
NOTHING MORE THAN WORTHLESS PIECES OF HISTORICAL
LITTERYOU HAVE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO THE WRONG THINGS
BRO.
TRY THIS:
Agache, R. et al., Tabula Imperii Romani: Condatte-Lutetia
London 1983.
Alexander, M. British Folklore, Myths and Legends, 1982
Barrett, W.H. Tales from the Fens,  London 1963
Bethel, D. Cheshire, London 1979
Biel, J. The Late Hallstaat Chieftans Grave at Hochdorf
Antiquity55 pgs 16-18 1981
Bowker, J. Goblin Tales of Lancashire, Lancaster, 1883
Bradley, R., and Gordon, K., Human Skulls from The River
Thames, their dating and significance, Antiquity62, 503-509,
1988
Briggs, K., A dictionary of Fairies, London 1976
Bromwich, R.,Trieodd Ynys Prydein (The Welsh Triads) Cardiff
1979
Brothwell, D. The Bog Man and the Archaeology of People,
London, 1986
Burl, The Stone Circles Of The British Isles London 1976
Chadwick, N.K. Early Literary Contacts between Wales and
Ireland in Moore D. (ed.) The Irish Sea Province in
Archaeology and History Cardiff 1970
Chaney, W., The cult of Kingship in Anglo-Saxon England
Manchester 1975
Collingwood, R.G., and Wright, R.P. The Roman Inscriptions
of Britain, 1965
Cross, T.P. and Slover, C.H. Ancient Irish Tales, Dublin
1969
Cunliffe, B., Iron Age Communities in Britain, London 1974
Dudley, D. R. and Webster G., The Rebellion of Boudicca
London 1962
Duffy, J., Patrick in His own Words, Dublin 1975
Ellison, A., A Native Roman and Christian Ritual Complex of
the 1st millenium AD:excavations at West Hill Uley, 1977-9
Committee for rescue Archaeology in Avon Gloucester and
Somerset Occasional Papers No.9 305-28 1979
Esperandieu E., Recueil General des Bas-Reliefs, Statues et
Bustes de la Gaule Romaine, Paris, published 1907, 1910 1911
1915 1918 1922 1925 1928 1938 1949 1955 1966 Farnborough
England
Feachem, R.W. Medionemeton on The Lines of Antoninus Pius,
Scotland, Collection latomus 103 210-216 1969
Fox, C., A Find of The Early Iron Age from Llyn Cerrig Bach,
Anglesey, Cardiff 1946
Frere, S.S.,  Rivet A.L.F. and Sitwell N.H.H. Tabula Imperii
Romani Brittania Septentrionalis, London 1987
Gardener, J.F. Caesar: The Conquest of Gaul London 1982
Glob, P.V. Jernaldermanden fra Craubelle, Aarhus 1959
The Bog People, London 1969
Hatt, J.J. The Ancient Civilization of the Celts and
Gallo-Romans London1970
Jackson, K., Language and Early History of Early Britain
Jones, G. and Jones, T. The Mabinogion, London1975
Kendrick, T. The Druids, London 1928
Kenner, H., La civilisation et l'art celtique en Carinthie
in OGAM VIII pt3 21-38 1956
Kinsella, T. The Tain Oxford 1969
Klindt Jensen O., Denmark London 1957
Kruta, V. Les Celtes, Paris 1978
Laing, L., Celtic Britain London 1979
Le Roux, F., Le Calendrier gualois de Coligny et la fete
irlandaise de Samain, OGAM 337-42 1957
Lewis, M.J.T., Temples in Roman Britain, Cambridge1966
Macalister R.A.S. Tare: a Pagan Sanctuary of Ancient
Ireland, London 1931
--Corpus Inscriptionum Insularum Celticarum
Dublin 1945
MacCana, P., Celtic Mythology, London 1970
MacCulloch, J.A., The Religion of the Ancient Celts,
Edinburgh 1911
Mackie, E., The Megalith Builders, London 1977
Macneill, M. The Festival of Lughnasa, Oxford 1962
Martin, M., A description of the Western Islands of Scotland
(a republication of the original of 1703) London 1934
Mattingly, H. Tacitus: The Agricola and The Germania, London
1970
Megaw, J.V.S., Art of The European Iron Age, Bath, 1970
Mommsen, Th., Collectanea Rerum Memorabilium, by G.I.
Solinus, Berlin 1958


This is half of it...let me know if you get done and need
some moreB

 Bard wrote:

 The Church and Jewish Ideology

 (Reprinted from SOBRAN'S, May 1999, page 4)






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[CTRL] Right-Left Coalition to Oppose War?

1999-07-15 Thread Lloyd Miller

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The following appeared in the December 1995 issue of OUT OF STEP, my monthly
newsletter, under the headline "Calling for a Left-Right Anti-War
Coalition":

"So Clinton is getting his damned shooting war - er, his 'peacekeeping
intervention.' American troops are being launched into what has already been
the bloodiest conflict in Europe since World War II. After his November 27
television address, the president quickly fled the country while the
nation's money powers, intelligentsia, and media fell into line behind his
plan.

"The New York Times called Clinton's plan 'limited, achievable and in
accordance with American national interests.' The Miami Herald agreed with
the president that 'only America has the armed might and geopolitical
suasion to make this peace agreement work.' And the Los Angeles Times chimed
in by calling Clinton's arguments for intervention "compelling." It
continued: 'The United States has no choice.   Clinton said the U.S. troops
should be out in a year; that sounds optimistic. Congress must question that
target date. But the president's cause is right.'

"In a bizarre analysis, Brent Scowcroft, national security advisor to
President George Bush, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that to not
send 20,000 troops to Bosnia would be a 'catastrophe for U.S. reliability.'
He then added that if troops are deployed, 'the possibility for significant
reverses, if not disaster, is fairly high.' Sounds like a no-win situation,
doesn't it? Henry Kissinger, never far from any significant moves toward a
New World Order, weighed in with some uninspired comment: 'I do not believe
we have a vital national security interest in Bosnia. But the president has
committed us and I don't believe that Congress will disavow the president at
this stage.   That would be harmful to the United States.'

"Then, of course, the Republican Party leadership caved in to Clinton's
desires 'reluctantly.'

"But not so the American people. They don't seem to really have the stomach
for another Iraq, or Somalia, or Haiti, or any U.S. military presence on
foreign soil. Curiously, Clinton's TV talk was not followed immediately by
the usual polling results. Instead, it took a day or two for any solid
polling numbers to come in as Clinton's journalistic lapdogs scrambled to
gather 'good news' for their man in the White House. And even then, the
president's planned I-FOR - 'peace implementation force' - garnered a
lackluster 46-percent support. This number will likely rise as the troops
actually arrive in Bosnia accompanied by the expected patriotic pomp, then
nosedive after the first few American deaths are revealed and the body bags
start arriving home.

"The most stirring speech given at last month's annual meeting of the
paleo-right John Randolph Club in Northern California erupted from Justin
Raimondo, libertarian political activist and author of Reclaiming the
American Right, a well-written history of the Old Right of Albert Jay Nock,
H.L. Mencken, and Garet Garrett. Raimondo called for the building of a new
America First Committee, following closely the anti-war and anti-imperialist
model of more than 50 years ago. Declaring that the anti-war movement is now
located on the Right, Raimondo concluded, 'We must act and organize now to
stop the War Machine of the Power Elite!'

"Raimondo's correct. The time to act and organize is now. And I think his
call for a new America First movement is well-intentioned. But his
right-wing vision may be too small. Take a look at the articles on
intervention in Bosnia that appear on page two of this issue - one from the
Far Left, the other the Far Right. We have now a rare opportunity to forge a
solid coalition of New Left and Hard Right - anti-imperialist, anti-war,
anti-interventionist, anti-conspiracy, anti-statist, and strongly anti-power
elite - to fight the American Warfare State, now led by Bill Clinton but led
earlier by every president since Woodrow Wilson.

"The idea of such a coalition isn't new. The late founders of modern
libertarianism, Murray Rothbard and Karl Hess, tried to build such a
Left-Right Opposition back in the late '60s. Well, it's time to try again -
particularly while the real Left is demoralized by liberal-centrists of the
Clinton school and the hardcore libertarian Right is compromised and
sold-out by political hacks of both the Republican and Libertarian Parties.

"Earlier this year, my friend Samuel Edward Konkin III, of the Movement of
the Libertarian Left, reintroduced the idea of a radical Left-Right
partnership. He wrote in a pamphlet titled 'What's Left?': 'While we can and
should discuss and debate the merits and demerits of a Left/Libertarian
coalition, ultimately, someone will have to, as libertarians say, take the
risk and make the investment.'

"The time is now to take the risk and make the investment.

"It's never been truer than it is today, friends: we have nothing to lose
but our chains."

The following appeared in the 

[CTRL] Adbusters: David Grossman finally get his due

1999-07-15 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/26/grossman.html
A HREF="http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/26/grossman.html"Adbusters: David
Grossman finally get his due
/A
-
DAVID GROSSMAN
FINALLY GET HIS DUE


DAVE GROSSMAN, the Arkansas psychologist and former US army colonel
profiled in "Headrush" [Adbusters, Spring 1999] has sometimes sounded
like a broken record proselytizing on the harm violent pop-culture
imagery — particularly shoot-'em-up video games — can do. Finally, he
has been vindicated. Too bad it took 14 dead kids to make it happen.

The recent massacre in Littleton, Colorado, so perfectly fit the
template Grossman warns of — right down to the perpetrators' obsession
with morbid video games (the killers rehearsed their crime in a
simulated Littleton before carrying it out) — that Grossman seemed
almost to have forecasted it. A huge question mark hung over America;
here, suddenly, was a guy with some answers.



Within a week Grossman had become a minor celebrity in his own right.
President Clinton mentioned him in his Saturday radio address to the
nation. The next day, he appeared on 60 Minutes, playing Doom with Ed
Bradley, blowing limbs off his targets and explaining how efficiently
the game was training him to kill. "People watched that," Grossman says,
"and the mind of a nation just went 'click." Grossman guested on Larry
King Live, The Today Show,

Meet the Press. Networks dispatched crews to his Jonesboro home. On May
2, he testified before a senate subcommittee on youth violence.

It has been a strange turnabout in the life of a man who has heretofore
been shut out of network TV (because, he maintains, his anti-TV-violence
message isn't exactly advertiser-friendly). In the end, the message grew
too potent for the medium to resist.

What's next for Grossman, and his crusade? Much depends on what happens
in Peducah, Kentucky, where a $130 million dollar class action suit
against the video game industry is scheduled to go to trial next year.

"Keep your eye on Peducah," says Grossman. "This is the Lexington and
Concord of the culture war. This is the shot heard around the world.
This is going to be the first step in the revolution that's going to
throw off the oppression of violence and the tyranny of the media
moguls. I really believe it. Once an idea gets loose, you can't rein it
in."

- Bruce Grierson
-
Aloha, He'Ping,
Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
Omnia Bona Bonis,
All My Relations.
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
Roads End
Kris

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[CTRL] Big Brother's E.T. Injectable Micro-chip (fwd)

1999-07-15 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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BIG BROTHER'S IMPLANTABLE/INJECTABLE MICRO/BIO-CHIPS

http://x35.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=500822145CONTEXT=932064228.364970123hitnu
m=0


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   Kaddish, Kaddish, Kaddish, YHVH, TZEVAOT

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   Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day.
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Re: [CTRL] U.S. House Panel Tries To Force Anti-Spying Reform

1999-07-15 Thread Bill

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Isn't it funny the nuclear jargon being bandied around
again, when, according to this article, there is right now a
Full Global Shield in place which makes all nuclear weaponry
obsolete on Earth.  Very valuable in space colonization,
necessary actually, but the Godless monkeys running things
are using the media contrived ignorance of the people as a
literal club, over the head of the ignorant people, the
slave force, us:

Mystery In Alaska   by Mark Farmer
Popular Science Magazine September 1995

At a remote facility ringed with barbed wire, a brand new
array of 36 antennas rises from the black spruce forest that
stretches hundreds of miles across Alaska.  Completed in
December 1994 and now undergoing testing, the antenna field
is the visible part of a powerful and sophisticated
high-frequency radio transmitter designed to transform areas
of the upper atmosphere into the equivalent of huge lenses,
mirrors, and antennas.
 This little known Pentagon sponsored radio physics
project, called the High Frequency Active Auroral Research
Program (HAARP) is officially intended to expand knowledge
about the nature of long range radio communications and
surveillance using the fluctuating ionosphere (See "Way up
in the Ionosphere"), the portion of the upper atmosphere
extending from 35 miles to 500 miles above the Earth's
surface.
 According to program manager John L Hecksher of the
Phillips Laboratory at Hanscom AFB, Massachusetts, potential
military applications of the HAARP research include
developing Department of Defense for detecting cruise
missiles and communicating with submarines.  "Although HAARP
is being managed by the Air Force and Navy, it is a purely
scientific research facility that poses no threat to
potential adversaries and has no value as a military
target," he says.
 But thats just the publicly announced part of the
program.  HAARP also has a secret agenda: pursuing more
exotic military goals, such as locating deeply buried
weapons factories thousands of miles away--AND EVEN ALTERING
THE LOCAL WEATHER ABOVE AN ENEMIES TERRITORY.
 A 1990 internal document obtained by Popular Science
says the programs overall goals is to "Control ionospheric
processes in such a way as to greatly improve performance of
military command, CONTROL, and communications systems."  It
provides a description of the following applications:

* Injecting high frequency radio energy into the ionosphere
to create huge, extremely low frequency (ELF) virtual
antennas used for earth penetrating topography--peering deep
beneath the surface of the ground by collecting an analyzing
reflected ELF waves beamed down from above.

* Heating Regions of the lower and upper ionosphere to form
virtual "Lenses" and "Mirrors" that can reflect a broad
range of radio frequencies far over the horizon to detect
stealthy cruise missiles and aircraft.

* Generating ELF radio waves in the ionosphere to
communicate across large distances with deeply submerged
submarines.

And, patent documents filed during an earlier research
effort that evolved into the HAARP program outline further
military applications of ionospheric-heating technology:

* Creating a "Full Global Shield" that would destroy
ballistic missiles by overheating their electronic guidance
systems as they fly through a powerful radio-energy field.

* Distinguishing nuclear warheads from decoys by sensing
their elemental composition.

* MANIPULATING LOCAL WEATHER.

When the HAARP facility is fully constructed, it will
include several sensing and analysis systems.  At its heart
is the antenna field, which now (1995) is a demonstration
version of a larger planned array named the Ionospheric
Research Instrument (IRI) which will include 360 antennas.
The IRI is designed to temporarily modify 30 mile diameter
patches of the upper atmosphere by exciting, or heating
their constituent electrons and ions with focused beans of
powerful radio energy.  A household analogy would be a
microwave oven, which heats food by exciting its water
molecules with microwave energy.
   (Snip)

 Virtual lenses and mirrors will be generated in the
ionosphere, if the IRI works as intended (1995).  By
precisely warming a patch of the lower ionosphere, the IRI
reduces its density relative to the surrounding atmosphere.
An "Ionospheric Lense" thus formed can in turn focus a radio
beam into the upper ionosphere.  Normally, most high
frequency radio waves broadcast from the ground are absorbed
or scattered in the lower ionosphere, and few of them reach
such high altitudes.
 Next the focused radio beam excites a patch of the
upper ionosphere to form a virtual mirror.  Finally, a radio
communication signal broadcast by the IRI, focused through
the lens and reflected from the mirror can be directed far
over the horizon.

 (Snip)

Proprietary phased-array (Local Arrays) transmitting,
steering, and pulsing techniques built into the IRI will
permit rapid aiming of the radio frequency 

[CTRL] The FBI and Flight 800-- A Missile Expert Cries Cover-Up (fwd)

1999-07-15 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

 -Caveat Lector-

***CHINESE ESPIONAGE  THE ASSASSINATION OF RON BROWN?***

  J. Adams
 November 13th, 1996

 Found on the net: http://w3.nai.net/~virtual/sot/

 Thanks to the internet, information is available from a variety of
 media  sources  around  the world that brings to light profound truths
 that would otherwise be completely repressed.  One example of this  is
 the  case  to be made that TWA Flight #800 was shot down by a missile,
 either by terrorists or by friendly fire from a U.S. naval  vessel.
snip to footnotes
 4.   TWA 800 may have been hit with such a missile.  Our sources  have
  indicated that a significant number  of  portable  surface-to-air
  missiles  are missing from inventories and are in Muslim hands in
  the United States.  The rumored strategy has been to hit 747's on
  take-off.  We understand that the TWA flight to Tel Aviv, Israel,
  was scheduled to leave JFK at 8:00 PM, but was on a gate hold due
  to a late passenger. Did they hit the wrong plane?
==
Jim Wilson wrote:

 Well, well. The plot thickens... if, of course, the rumor is true.

 Is there any documentation of this trade of takeoff slots?

 Jim Wilson

 --- Jim Duey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  An interesting tidbit I heard was that Benjamin Netanyahu, who had
  recently been elected PM of Israel was visiting the US.  His plane
  was
  leaving NY that night, but for some reason or another gave up their
  takeoff slot.  TWA 800 then took off in that slot.  FWIW, caveat
  lector,
  etc.
 
  "Brenda C. Jinkins" wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
   July 14 - 20, 1999
  
  by
   robert
   davey
  
  The FBI and Flight 800
  
   A Missile Expert Cries
   Cover-Up
  
The Flight 800 investigation, still
at a loss to explain the tragedy,
has the right stuff for a thrilling
spy novel. Government flacks
easily spin the lazy mainstream
media to sedate the nervous
public. Meanwhile, a band of
military insiders heads for the
Internet (http://twa800.com) and
reaches out to a few sympathetic
independent journalists to
convince readers that the truth is
being hidden. For some
reason—at this point only a
fiction writer could provide
one—many observers believe
that the government is covering
up the disaster's most likely
explanation: it was a missile that
three years ago this week, 10
miles south of Long Island,
brought down the Paris-bound
747, killing all 230 aboard.
  
As the investigation's third
anniversary passes, the mystery
is deepening. A few months ago,
a retired army officer bearing
impressive credentials
approached the Voice as an
intermediary for a missile expert
with a story to tell. This expert is
extremely fearful of losing his
job—for more than 20 years he's
been a military engineer who
specializes in infrared missile
technology. Assured of
anonymity, he submitted to
lengthy interviews by telephone
and e-mail, detailing why he
believes the investigation of TWA
Flight 800 is a cover-up.
  
After spending more than $40
million on the investigation, the
FBI and the National
Transportation Safety Board
have not found a definitive
answer for why the center fuel
tank exploded. Yet they have
ruled out a missile as the cause.
The NTSB believes an
undetermined system flaw
produced an electrical spark that
ignited jet fuel vapors in the tank.
  
Prior to the official embrace of
this mechanical explanation, the

[CTRL] Braveheart-memorial plaque erected near place of execution

1999-07-15 Thread Bard

 -Caveat Lector-

Let Freedom ring 
(it can again in 2000 Folks.)

Sir William Wallace died for what he believed in.
Would you make the same sacrifice?

Your answer denotes the value you place on
freedom vs. slavery.

Wouldn't you rather receive a paycheck
which represents the full value of your labor?

The parasitic taxsuckers would finally have
to find 'gainful' employment.

It's frightening at the number of people who
don't realize the extent to which they have
become enslaved to the felons operating the
the private corporation they like to call the
Federal Reserve System.

Find out about the billions they took us and our ancestors for in the late
1920s and early 1930s,
notwithstanding what their doing right now.

I would have inserted a .jpg,
but didn't want to hear the screams.  lol

So go to this wonderful Site
and view this splendid memorial Plaque,
plus two other fine graphics.

The captions for the three pics, are:
1.  This is the memorial plaque erected near his place of execution.
2.  This is the general location where it is believed Wallace was executed.
The body was quartered and beheaded. Wallace's head was hanged over London
Bridge and the remaining body parts were posted throughout Scotland to deter
others from continuing Wallace's struggle for Scotland's independence.
3.  This is the Wallace Monument in Stirling, Scotland.

http://www.findagrave.com/pictures/2411.html

In today's society "they" don't quarter your body and behead you,
they throw you into a Federal Penitentiary and suck your brain.

Love you all,
(radical leftist scum not included)

lol

Bard

Visit me at:
The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government
http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm

Federal Government defined:
a benefit/subsidy protection racket!

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[CTRL] Fw: DRUDGE-REPORT 7/15/99

1999-07-15 Thread CobolMage

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X DRUDGE REPORT X THURSDAY, JULY 15, 1999 21:59:02 ET X

BRADLEY CAMPAIGN BANKROLL NEARLY EQUALS GORE'S; TOPS IN CALI AND NY

Democratic presidential runner Bill Bradley has stockpiled nearly as much
cash as Vice President Al Gore, unexpectedly tightening the Democratic
race, according to new campaign finance reports.

Ceci Connolly reports in Friday editions of the WASHINGTON POST that Gore
has spent far more than either Bradley or GOP prince George Bush.

"Although Gore has raised $17.5 million -- about $1 million less than his
campaign estimated two weeks ago -- he had just $9.3 million left, less
than $2 million ahead of Bradley," reports Connolly.

Gore raised about $8.7 million in the past 3 months, but he's spent $6
million.

Connolly: "The bulk of his money went to direct mail firms and consultants
of every stripe -- pollsters, communications gurus, media strategists,
computer experts and fund-raising consultants. The vice president's team
spent about $1 million on catering, including more than $100,000 at New
York's opulent Pierre Hotel."

In Gore-Tech California, Bradley outraised the vice president $1.6 million
to $1 million. In New York, Bradley collected more than twice as much as
Gore, $1.4 million to $597,000.

And Bradley was so strong in New York that he even outdid Bush at the bank!

[Bush raised $1.3 million in NY to Bradley's $1.4 million.]

   X X X X X


WHO IS GOING TO RUN WARNER BROTHERS?

Now that Robert Daly and Terry Semel, the co-chairmen of WARNER BROTHERS,
have decided to kiss Burbank goodbye -- just who is in the running to head
one of Hollywood's biggest studios?

TIME WARNER chair Gerald Levin tells reporters that the decision will be
his.

"I am the CEO," Levin says. "I will think this through."

The Godfather of Wilshire Boulevard Bernie Weinraub writes in Friday's NY
TIMES that speculation for a replacement is centering on Leslie Moonves, a
former head of WARNER BORTHERS television and now president and chief
executive of CBS television, Peter Chernin, president and chief operating
officer of NEWS CORP., Jeff Bewkes, chairman and chief executive of HOME
BOX OFFICE [and Ted Turner pal], Joe Roth, chairman of WALT DISNEY STUDIOS
and others.

Semel and Daly had been considering leaving the studio for some six months,
the LOS ANGELES TIMES is planning to report in fresh editions, but made
their final decision while flying back from Europe together on the
company's corporate jet Sunday night.

"We had 12 hours on the plane together and it was a highly emotional
experience," Semel tells the paper. "We decided we were not going to stay."

   X X X X X


ANGRY BOB WOODWARD PLANNING RESPONSE TO CRITICS

He may be holding at #1 on The List with his superseller SHADOW, but
authorreporterpundit Bob Woodward is set to lash back at his critics in a
soon-to-be published editorial planned for the pages of the WASHINGTON POST.

According to newspaper sources, Woodward is currently at work on a direct
response to an editorial that appeared in his very own paper!

On July 6, writer Geneva Overholser hit Woodward in the POST for his
"unorthodox methods."

Overholser questioned how Woodward "recreates behind-the-scenes events as
if he'd been in the room -- full of detail, characterizations and direct
quotes, much of it unattributed."

She poked: "This causes confusion, and not just for readers wondering who
told Woodward what and why."

To make the case, Overholser pointed out that former Clinton spokesman Mike
McCurry and former White House lawyer Jane Sherburnere have said that
Woodward's constructed conversations involving the First Lady "are
inaccurate."

Woodward, completely angry over the POST editorial, is getting ready to
fight back -- with 800 choice words of his own.

Developing...

   X X X X X

SUNDAY WAR: 'MEET THE PRESS' BEATS 'THIS WEEK' BY AN INCH

Last Sunday morning, Tim Russert topped Cokie Roberts and Sam Donaldson by
less than 32,000 viewers, according to NIELSEN MEDIA RESEARCH.

A tight ratings battle has erupted between the two public affairs shows,
with each claiming victory in recent weeks.

The Sunday media church session of July 11, 1999: MEET THE PRESS was No. 1
in total viewers attracting 2.943 million, ABC's THIS WEEK was second with
2.911 million, CBS' FACE THE NATION was third with 2.676 million and FOX's
NEWS SUNDAY was fourth with 1.204 million.

While one senior ABC staffer characterized the latest squeakerrating as a
"statistical tie" -- NBC's media spokeswoman Barbara Levin moved into press
release action declaring a win.

"MEET THE PRESS WITH TIM RUSSERT' WINNING STREAK CONTINUES FOR 51 WEEKS AS
NO. 1 SUNDAY MORNING..." slugged Levin in her AP NEWS EXPRESS sermon.

[Can I get a witness?]

   X X X X X

KUBRICK FILM TO RECEIVE MIXED REVIEWS

The nation's newspaper 

Re: [CTRL] Big Brother's E.T. Injectable Micro-chip (fwd)

1999-07-15 Thread Bill

 -Caveat Lector-

Thanks for that.

MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 BIG BROTHER'S IMPLANTABLE/INJECTABLE MICRO/BIO-CHIPS

 http://x35.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=500822145CONTEXT=932064228.364970123hitnu
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Re: [CTRL] Right-Left Coalition to Oppose War?

1999-07-15 Thread Bill

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"One night, probably in 1880, John Swinton,
then the preeminent New York journalist,
was the guest of honour at a
banquet given him by the leaders of his craft.

Someone who knew neither the press nor Swinton offered a
toast to the
independent press.

Swinton outraged his colleagues by replying:

"There is no such thing, at this date of the world's
history,
in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know
it.

There is not one of you who dares to write your honest
opinions,
and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never
appear in print.

I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of
the paper I am connected with.

Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things,
and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest
opinions would be out on the streets looking for another
job.

If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my
paper,
before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone.

"The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth,
to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet
of mammon,
and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread.

You know it and I know it,
and what folly is this toasting an independent press?

We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes.
We are the jumping jacks,
they pull the strings and we dance.

Our talents, our possibilities and our lives
are all the property of other men.

We are intellectual prostitutes."

(Source: Labor's Untold Story,
by Richard O. Boyer and Herbert M. Morais,
published by United Electrical, Radio  Machine Workers of
America,
NY, 1955/1979.)

Lloyd Miller wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 The following appeared in the December 1995 issue of OUT OF STEP, my monthly
 newsletter, under the headline "Calling for a Left-Right Anti-War
 Coalition":

 "So Clinton is getting his damned shooting war - er, his 'peacekeeping
 intervention.' American troops are being launched into what has already been
 the bloodiest conflict in Europe since World War II. After his November 27
 television address, the president quickly fled the country while the
 nation's money powers, intelligentsia, and media fell into line behind his
 plan.

 "The New York Times called Clinton's plan 'limited, achievable and in
 accordance with American national interests.' The Miami Herald agreed with
 the president that 'only America has the armed might and geopolitical
 suasion to make this peace agreement work.' And the Los Angeles Times chimed
 in by calling Clinton's arguments for intervention "compelling." It
 continued: 'The United States has no choice.   Clinton said the U.S. troops
 should be out in a year; that sounds optimistic. Congress must question that
 target date. But the president's cause is right.'

 "In a bizarre analysis, Brent Scowcroft, national security advisor to
 President George Bush, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that to not
 send 20,000 troops to Bosnia would be a 'catastrophe for U.S. reliability.'
 He then added that if troops are deployed, 'the possibility for significant
 reverses, if not disaster, is fairly high.' Sounds like a no-win situation,
 doesn't it? Henry Kissinger, never far from any significant moves toward a
 New World Order, weighed in with some uninspired comment: 'I do not believe
 we have a vital national security interest in Bosnia. But the president has
 committed us and I don't believe that Congress will disavow the president at
 this stage.   That would be harmful to the United States.'

 "Then, of course, the Republican Party leadership caved in to Clinton's
 desires 'reluctantly.'

 "But not so the American people. They don't seem to really have the stomach
 for another Iraq, or Somalia, or Haiti, or any U.S. military presence on
 foreign soil. Curiously, Clinton's TV talk was not followed immediately by
 the usual polling results. Instead, it took a day or two for any solid
 polling numbers to come in as Clinton's journalistic lapdogs scrambled to
 gather 'good news' for their man in the White House. And even then, the
 president's planned I-FOR - 'peace implementation force' - garnered a
 lackluster 46-percent support. This number will likely rise as the troops
 actually arrive in Bosnia accompanied by the expected patriotic pomp, then
 nosedive after the first few American deaths are revealed and the body bags
 start arriving home.

 "The most stirring speech given at last month's annual meeting of the
 paleo-right John Randolph Club in Northern California erupted from Justin
 Raimondo, libertarian political activist and author of Reclaiming the
 American Right, a well-written history of the Old Right of Albert Jay Nock,
 H.L. Mencken, and Garet Garrett. Raimondo called for the building of a new
 America First Committee, following closely the anti-war and anti-imperialist
 model of more than 50 years ago. Declaring that the anti-war movement is now
 located on the Right, Raimondo concluded, 'We must act and 

Re: [CTRL] The Church and Jewish Ideology by Joseph Sobran

1999-07-15 Thread Bard

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Bill,  Many thanks for directing my attention to
the list of Right Things
to try.

u can bet on it that i look at a few of them.

bard

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Re: [CTRL] The Church and Jewish Ideology by Joseph Sobran

1999-07-15 Thread Bill

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You are welcome thanks for your time...write rite
rightwhat IS is not workingand there is a lot that
should be and is notbut, Light Happens.  Glad to be on
this list.  B

Bard wrote:

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 Bill,  Many thanks for directing my attention to
 the list of Right Things
 to try.

 u can bet on it that i look at a few of them.

 bard

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[CTRL] FW: NAACP lawsuita racist mistake [2d Amend.]

1999-07-15 Thread Bard

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Anti-gun lawsuit by the NAACP is really
an attack on civil rights, say Libertarians

WASHINGTON, DC -- The NAACP is making a "racist mistake" by
filing a lawsuit against gun manufacturers -- and is following in the
shameful footsteps of the Ku Klux Klan, the Libertarian Party charged
today.

"With this lawsuit, the NAACP is not only attacking the civil
rights of African-Americans, but is also continuing the legacy of the
KKK and other racist organizations that have historically tried to keep
guns out of the hands of blacks," said Steve Dasbach, the party's
national director.

"Politics makes strange bedfellows -- and what could be
stranger than the NAACP climbing into bed with the grand wizards of the
KKK by supporting their racist agenda?"

This week, the National Association for the Advancement of
Colored People (NAACP) announced at its national convention that it
will file a federal suit in New York on Friday against 85 gun
manufacturers for "dumping guns into black communities and turning them
into war zones."

The NAACP -- which argued that "the illegal trafficking of
firearms disproportionately affects minority communities" -- wants the
court to ban sales at gun shows and limit how many guns can be sold in
one transaction.

But the reality is, the gun control measures endorsed by the
NAACP will disproportionately affect minority communities, where people
are exposed to higher crime rates and slower police response times,
said Dasbach.

"The NAACP apparently wants to limit the ability of its members
to defend themselves and their families against violent crime," he
said. "That's shameful enough, but what's even worse is that this
lawsuit continues the disgraceful legacy of white racists who don't
think blacks can be trusted with guns."

In fact, anyone who studies history knows that gun control laws
have frequently targeted African-Americans, said Dasbach -- going all
the way back to the post-Civil War period, when Southern whites were
determined to keep guns away from emancipated slaves.

According to Don B. Kates, an author who studied post-Civil War
gun laws, a flurry of Southern states passed laws designed to ban or
tax inexpensive handguns so poor blacks couldn't afford them, including
Tennessee (1870), Arkansas (1881), and Alabama (1893).

That trend continued into the 20th Century. In 1902, South
Carolina banned the sale of handguns to everyone except "sheriffs and
their special deputies: i.e., company goons and the KKK." In 1911, New
York City passed the Sullivan Law, which allowed police to screen
handgun applicants -- so they could reject blacks, eastern Europeans,
and Jews.

And in 1968, Congress passed more gun control legislation,
partly in response to the urban riots that followed the assassination
of Dr. Martin Luther King.

"Given America's shameful legacy of attempting to deprive
African-Americans of basic civil rights -- by denying them the right to
exercise the Second Amendment -- it's baffling that the NAACP would
join this attack," said Dasbach. "This lawsuit is a betrayal of
everything a civil rights organization should represent."

Ironically, the NAACP itself has a history of using firearms to
defend African-Americans from racists, he noted.

In Monroe, North Carolina in 1957, for example, 60 armed blacks
from the local NAACP chapter were able to repel an attack from a KKK
motorcade after the Klansmen shot at the house of Dr. Albert E. Perry,
the NAACP vice president.

"It would be a shame if such despicable attacks against black
Americans became more common in the future -- because the NAACP had
disarmed its members," said Dasbach. "As that incident in Monroe
proved, the best way to protect minority communities is by giving them
the freedom to defend themselves."
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[CTRL] CIA reassesses: Exposure to nerve gas in Gulf War less than thought (fwd)

1999-07-15 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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From:

http://www.newstimes.com/news/today/nab.htm


CIA reassesses: Exposure to nerve gas in Gulf War less than
thought

By DAVID BRISCOE
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) _ After eight years and more than $100 million,
special Pentagon and CIA offices say they have done about all
they can to find a cause for the mysterious Gulf War illnesses.

The CIA's special assistant on the issue told a presidential
panel on Tuesday that new evidence shows the number of soldiers
exposed to low levels of chemical agents in the 1991 conflict is
much lower than estimates made two years ago.

Both the CIA investigator, Robert D. Walpole, and another key
official in the quest for a cause, Pentagon special assistant
Bernard Rostker, told the Special Oversight Board on Gulf War
illness they expect no new sweeping conclusions.

Up to 30,000 veterans of the war have complained of mysterious
maladies such as fatigue, joint pain and memory loss they claim
are related to their service in the Gulf, but several Pentagon
and outside investigations have failed to pinpoint a cause.

``We are pretty close to closing the books,'' said Walpole. He
said he expects three final CIA reports on exposure to chemical,
biological or radiological agents in the Gulf to be completed by
September or October, although intelligence assessments and
examination of any new information would continue.

``We've turned over all the biggest stones. Now we need help in
determining when the stones get too small to turn over,'' said
Rostker in an interview after Tuesday's panel hearing at which
several veterans also appeared.

The National Gulf War Resource Center, which has been critical of
Pentagon handling of the issue, called for Rostker's resignation
but a continuation of his office's investigative work.

Paul Sullivan, center executive director, told the panel that
many veterans believe depleted uranium used in U.S. munitions
caused their illness.

Rostker said there is no evidence of this and that depleted
uranium shells saved lives in the Gulf by destroying Iraqi and
protecting U.S. tanks.

Former Sen. Warren Rudman, R-N.H., board chairman, said that even
if major aspects of the investigation have concluded without
finding a cause, case studies and investigation of war data bases
could still be conducted, and the issue is far from closed.

Rudman also proposed investigation by the National Institutes of
Health to settle a the debate over the danger of depleted uranium
used in U.S. munitions.

The CIA in 1997 estimated that 10,000 soldiers may have been
exposed to low levels of nerve agent from inadvertent destruction
of rockets at a site called Khamisiya Pit. The Pentagon at that
time acknowledged that up to 100,000 soldiers may have been
exposed to low levels of chemical agents during the war. In all
instances, officials said, levels were too low to cause health
problems.

``We now estimate _ in most cases _ that less agent was released,
primarily because more precise data is now available,'' said the
CIA's Walpole.

``The smaller release ... would probably result in far fewer
troops exposed compared to 1997 estimates,'' he said, giving no
precise estimate.

He said the CIA was never satisfied with its original analysis
because it was made to meet a short deadline and based on limited
data and worst-case scenarios. Environmental degradation of the
chemicals, which were left over from the Iran-Iraq war, also
could not be accurately calculated in 1997, he said.

The latest CIA analysis resulted from evidence provided by the
U.N. Special Commission that oversaw troop activities during the
war, Walpole said. Several sites were re-evaluated, including the
Khamisiya Pit.

Only one-fourth of the originally estimated 500 rockets were
found around the pit and explosives were placed less optimally
than previously assumed, Walpole said.

Investigation at three other sites also showed no evidence of
contamination of Western troops, he said.

Copyright 1999 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This
material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or
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Re: [CTRL] the reliability of recovered memory

1999-07-15 Thread Smart News

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Hi !

Here are a few posts about the veracity of recovered memory.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

From: http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/Sample-Issue-26.htm

With an often biased media barrage that the false memory syndrome exists,
even those survivors with a great deal of documentation and many years of
memories may occasionally doubt their memories. I wanted to share a few
quotes from: "Memory, Trauma Treatment, and the Law" by Brown, Scheflin and
Hammond," (ISBN 0-393-70254-5) W.W. Norton and Co. New York and London, C
1998 (http://www.wwnorton.com) Page 365-366. The book has excellent
information about memory studies and a chapter called "The False Logic of the
False Memory Controversy and the Irrational Element in Scientific Research on
Memory" (pg. 382)

From chapter 11: "A Critical  Evaluation of the Memory Scientific
Experiments," section: "WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT MEMORY FALLIBILTY?"

"Loftus's claim that human memory in general is fallible (1979a,b) and that
therefore memories recovered in psychotherapy are equally fallible (1993) is
both overstated and oversimplified (Koss et al., 1995)." The conclusion that
"negative emotional arousal hinders accurate...memory" (Loftus, 1980, p.78)
is misleading..." Loftus' conclusion  only applies "to laboratory simulation
studies of memory for complex visual presentations" when a certain type of
information is measured. "These simulation studies rarely show memory
fallibility with respect to the emotional arousing event itself."
Generalizing findings on memory fallibilty are misleading when "certain types
of visual information presented in the laboratory" are transferred to the
"autobiographical memory of patients in psychotherapy."

"The early studies... led to a distorted view of memory fallibilty
because they were biased toward assessing memory performance in terms of" all
the information contained in "a complex visual stimulus presentation
(Clifford  Hollin, 1981; Clifford  Scott, 1978)" or because they looked for
"peripheral background details..." "More sophisticated studies...have clearly
demonstrated that memory is well and accurately retained for the gist of a
central action... or a negative emotional event even over long retention
intervals," where "only the peripheral background details are poorly
retained." This compares to "...Bartlett's (1932) original studies on memory
for the War of the Ghosts,... gist memory was well preserved while memory for
minor details was highly inaccurate."

"General, overstated claims about memory fallibility" don't take into
consideration "the complex interaction of variables that affect memory
performance."

From: http://members.aol.com/smartnews/page/Sample-Issue-27.htm

The information for the following article came from "Memory, Trauma
Treatment, and the Law" by Brown, Scheflin and Hammond, W.W. Norton and Co.
New York and London, C 1998 (http://www.wwnorton.com) Page 370-381 and is
written by the editor of S.M.A.R.T.

The base rates for memory commission errors are quite low, at least in
professional trauma treatment. The base rates in adult misinformation studies
run between zero and 5 percent for adults and between 3 - 5 percent for
children.  Out of about seven to 10% of the general population that may be
highly hypnotizable, four to 6 percent of high hypnotizable subjects may
"produce hypnotic psuedomemories for peripheral details (of a memory) in
response to suggestions" in a waking state or hypnotized with controlled
situational influence. The 4-6 percent may rise in terms of report rates to
80% under some conditions of social influence. Extreme social influence can
be compared to brainwashing or social influence to the following criteria,
several of which must happen for the possibility of an untrue memory to
occur: patient is highly suggestible (in terms of memory),  with low to
moderate suggestibility a therapeutic situation must contain a number of the
following: patient is quite uncertain about the past event, suggestions of
peripheral details (not central plot actions of a memory), source credibility
(an authority figure), patient bias (previous information), authority figure
bias (has set belief about what happened), systematic misleading (rather than
free recall), emotional manipulation (blame or rejection for not producing
the desired result or praise for the desired result), behavioral response
(individual journal or oral narrative to group of trauma or action against
perpetrators), milieu control (total information control in and out of
therapeutic or other context) and  psychophysiological manipulation (breaking
down the subject's defenses,  assaults self esteem or person's core or causes
subject to regress).

"Occasional unwitting misleading suggestions (Yapko, 1994a), even the
suggestion of a diagnosis of abuse, cannot adequately explain illusory
memories of child sexual abuse." (p. 379) Occasional suggestions about abuse
are not generally effective, except in highly suggestible 

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