[CTRL] Smart Chip

1999-09-19 Thread Steve Wingate

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American Express is advertising a new credit card in the US, American
Express Blue. It has a smart chip. I guess Visa and Mastercard will forced
to follow. Like they didn't already test market it in Australia...

Steve


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Re: [CTRL] U.S. Army Sergeant First Class Steven Barry (ret.)

1999-09-19 Thread Steve Wingate

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If the Constitution had not been suspended, the Posse Comitatus would
apply. But apparently the Executive Branch lives by different rules ( like
Executive Orders and Declarations of Emergency, not to mention the
Illuminati).

And now we will have a choice between Bush and Gore. I think I am going
to be sick  ;-(

I was offered a chance to be a Rhode Scholar, like Clinton. I did not even
send back the essay.

If I would have lied and spun a wonderful tale about the New World Order
and the rise of Globalism, I could be President now.

Scary...

Steve

On 19 Sep 99, at 1:00, Norman Grigg wrote:

 Delta’s Role

 On August 27th, the Dallas Morning News reported that former CIA officer
 Gene Cullen had been informed that three or four Army Special Forces
 troops had been "present, up front and close" during the final assault on
 the Branch Davidian church. "When they explained to me the depth to which
 they were involved down in Waco, I was quite surprised," remarked Cullen.
 "They said basically they were out there in the … Bradley [fighting
 vehicles], the CEV [tanks] They were active." Absent a presidential
 waiver, such participation would constitute a violation of the Posse
 Comitatus Act, which forbids the military to participate directly in
 domestic law enforcement operations.



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Re: [CTRL] why no cheeseburgers

1999-09-19 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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YOU are WAY cool!

Thanks for the answer.

I'm a Jew, by birth, no lessI just rebelled against the shit
for so long, i.e., my dad's orthodox, my mon, a convert, a
convert to OTHODOX BEFORE MY BIRTH (formally a Tenn Hillbilly:),
and because my dad's fam never really accepted the "union," my
parents never taught me of religion AT ALL..I learned about it in
college in humanities, from my negroid BEST FRIENDS as a kid, and
my jewish playmates, circa same), until about ten years ago, when
I realized that Jesus the Christ was PROBABLY Immanual/Emanuel!
That's when I became a "FIERCE WARRIOR OF THE LIGHT," i.e.
ESSENE (and/or constantly appologising for not following the
strictest of YHVH's LAWS all the time:), a warrior as was Jesus
for HIS FATHER!  IE "THE LAW!"

Love you...and thanks for teaching me more, you dirty bastard;-)
As if I don't have the vast majority of my prayer time daily
ALREADY GOING TO REPENTINT!

:)




On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Tenorlove wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 Deuteronomy 14:12b: Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk
 (KJV).

 According to kosher dietary laws, one is forbidden to eat meat and
 dairy in the same meal, or to cook/serve on the same dishes. That's why
 Jews who keep kosher have 2 sets of dishes. Some go so far as to have
 separate stoves, sinks, refrigerators and countertops.in their kitchen.
 In a related note, they will also have separate dishes for Passover,
 since any kind of leavening is forbidden and they don't want to chance
 getting even a crumb of bread into the Seder. I once saw an apartment
 in Metropolitan Home magazine that had a Passover kitchen, that, when
 Passover week was finished, the appliances and countertops were covered
 with removable counters, and the kitchen was used as the wife's sewing
 room the rest of the year. Back when the laws were codified, they
 didn't have modern methods of food preservation and refrigeration, so
 the dietary laws (no pork or shellfish, etc) made a lot of sense.
 Actually, except for the high sodium content, the kosher diet is rather
 healthy, since most of the forbidden foods are bad for you anyway.

 Tenorlove,
 who kept kosher for month as a school project, but who really believes
 Emeril Lagasse when he says PORK FAT RULES! BAM! BTW, next time
 you make ham hocks  beans, kick it up a notch--use prosciutto hocks.
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Re: [CTRL] why no cheeseburgers

1999-09-19 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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BTW, Science was my religion, i.e., from FIVE YEARS OLD, i.e., as
a bube tube baby boomer, i.e., Atheist, but as a "good"
scientist, I learned early into my 12 years as a member of the
grads with HIGH honors from Big Ten universities in the hard
sciences, there ARE NO ABSOLUTES, therefore I always claimed to
be an Agnostic, UNTIL ABOUT !% YEARS INTO MY CAREER...a career
dealing INTIMATELY with the most elete basic and applied
researchers in the world, that I WAS WRONG, i.e., there really
ARE gods, AND _G_OD!

In other words, ME...a stauch ATHEIST from 5 years old ON, just
got shit so piled up on me that MADE NO SENSE in that line of
LOGIC, that I finally, with the insights of the scientists that
were privy to the worlds MOST SECRET SHIT, finally realized that
out evolution WAS NOT PURE, i.e., OUR EVOLUTION FROM BASIC LIFE
UP WAS NOT FREE OF INTERVENTION, i.e., I _KNOW_ AS FACT THAT
_MOST_ OF OUR CURRENT TECHNOLOGICAL STATE OF THE ART IS VIA ET,
periodo, baby!

MIND BLOWING, i.e., when one REALLY realizes the above IS REAL!

On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:



 YOU are WAY cool!

 Thanks for the answer.

 I'm a Jew, by birth, no lessI just rebelled against the shit
 for so long, i.e., my dad's orthodox, my mon, a convert, a
 convert to OTHODOX BEFORE MY BIRTH (formally a Tenn Hillbilly:),
 and because my dad's fam never really accepted the "union," my
 parents never taught me of religion AT ALL..I learned about it in
 college in humanities, from my negroid BEST FRIENDS as a kid, and
 my jewish playmates, circa same), until about ten years ago, when
 I realized that Jesus the Christ was PROBABLY Immanual/Emanuel!
 That's when I became a "FIERCE WARRIOR OF THE LIGHT," i.e.
 ESSENE (and/or constantly appologising for not following the
 strictest of YHVH's LAWS all the time:), a warrior as was Jesus
 for HIS FATHER!  IE "THE LAW!"

 Love you...and thanks for teaching me more, you dirty bastard;-)
 As if I don't have the vast majority of my prayer time daily
 ALREADY GOING TO REPENTINT!

 :)




 On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Tenorlove wrote:

   -Caveat Lector-
 
  Deuteronomy 14:12b: Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk
  (KJV).
 
  According to kosher dietary laws, one is forbidden to eat meat and
  dairy in the same meal, or to cook/serve on the same dishes. That's why
  Jews who keep kosher have 2 sets of dishes. Some go so far as to have
  separate stoves, sinks, refrigerators and countertops.in their kitchen.
  In a related note, they will also have separate dishes for Passover,
  since any kind of leavening is forbidden and they don't want to chance
  getting even a crumb of bread into the Seder. I once saw an apartment
  in Metropolitan Home magazine that had a Passover kitchen, that, when
  Passover week was finished, the appliances and countertops were covered
  with removable counters, and the kitchen was used as the wife's sewing
  room the rest of the year. Back when the laws were codified, they
  didn't have modern methods of food preservation and refrigeration, so
  the dietary laws (no pork or shellfish, etc) made a lot of sense.
  Actually, except for the high sodium content, the kosher diet is rather
  healthy, since most of the forbidden foods are bad for you anyway.
 
  Tenorlove,
  who kept kosher for month as a school project, but who really believes
  Emeril Lagasse when he says PORK FAT RULES! BAM! BTW, next time
  you make ham hocks  beans, kick it up a notch--use prosciutto hocks.
  __
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Re: [CTRL] why no cheeseburgers

1999-09-19 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Please, allmy first reply on this thread was intended as
PRIVATE!  When I realized it had been sent to list, I ATTEMPTED
TO qualify it.

Sadly, though, I did not acieve such:(

SO, it is now, that I write this third PUBLIC apology, for not
using a spell check on the first two, and being a tad inebraited
DURING ALL THREE:(

The essense of the three posts should STILL be taken as my inner
most beliefs...and thanks:)


On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:




 BTW, Science was my religion, i.e., from FIVE YEARS OLD, i.e., as
 a bube tube baby boomer, i.e., Atheist, but as a "good"
 scientist, I learned early into my 12 years as a member of the
 grads with HIGH honors from Big Ten universities in the hard
 sciences, there ARE NO ABSOLUTES, therefore I always claimed to
 be an Agnostic, UNTIL ABOUT !% YEARS INTO MY CAREER...a career
 dealing INTIMATELY with the most elete basic and applied
 researchers in the world, that I WAS WRONG, i.e., there really
 ARE gods, AND _G_OD!

 In other words, ME...a stauch ATHEIST from 5 years old ON, just
 got shit so piled up on me that MADE NO SENSE in that line of
 LOGIC, that I finally, with the insights of the scientists that
 were privy to the worlds MOST SECRET SHIT, finally realized that
 out evolution WAS NOT PURE, i.e., OUR EVOLUTION FROM BASIC LIFE
 UP WAS NOT FREE OF INTERVENTION, i.e., I _KNOW_ AS FACT THAT
 _MOST_ OF OUR CURRENT TECHNOLOGICAL STATE OF THE ART IS VIA ET,
 periodo, baby!

 MIND BLOWING, i.e., when one REALLY realizes the above IS REAL!

 On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:

 
 
  YOU are WAY cool!
 
  Thanks for the answer.
 
  I'm a Jew, by birth, no lessI just rebelled against the shit
  for so long, i.e., my dad's orthodox, my mon, a convert, a
  convert to OTHODOX BEFORE MY BIRTH (formally a Tenn Hillbilly:),
  and because my dad's fam never really accepted the "union," my
  parents never taught me of religion AT ALL..I learned about it in
  college in humanities, from my negroid BEST FRIENDS as a kid, and
  my jewish playmates, circa same), until about ten years ago, when
  I realized that Jesus the Christ was PROBABLY Immanual/Emanuel!
  That's when I became a "FIERCE WARRIOR OF THE LIGHT," i.e.
  ESSENE (and/or constantly appologising for not following the
  strictest of YHVH's LAWS all the time:), a warrior as was Jesus
  for HIS FATHER!  IE "THE LAW!"
 
  Love you...and thanks for teaching me more, you dirty bastard;-)
  As if I don't have the vast majority of my prayer time daily
  ALREADY GOING TO REPENTINT!
 
  :)
 
 
 
 
  On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Tenorlove wrote:
 
-Caveat Lector-
  
   Deuteronomy 14:12b: Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk
   (KJV).
  
   According to kosher dietary laws, one is forbidden to eat meat and
   dairy in the same meal, or to cook/serve on the same dishes. That's why
   Jews who keep kosher have 2 sets of dishes. Some go so far as to have
   separate stoves, sinks, refrigerators and countertops.in their kitchen.
   In a related note, they will also have separate dishes for Passover,
   since any kind of leavening is forbidden and they don't want to chance
   getting even a crumb of bread into the Seder. I once saw an apartment
   in Metropolitan Home magazine that had a Passover kitchen, that, when
   Passover week was finished, the appliances and countertops were covered
   with removable counters, and the kitchen was used as the wife's sewing
   room the rest of the year. Back when the laws were codified, they
   didn't have modern methods of food preservation and refrigeration, so
   the dietary laws (no pork or shellfish, etc) made a lot of sense.
   Actually, except for the high sodium content, the kosher diet is rather
   healthy, since most of the forbidden foods are bad for you anyway.
  
   Tenorlove,
   who kept kosher for month as a school project, but who really believes
   Emeril Lagasse when he says PORK FAT RULES! BAM! BTW, next time
   you make ham hocks  beans, kick it up a notch--use prosciutto hocks.
   __
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   Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
  
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[CTRL] The Pegasus File

1999-09-19 Thread Nicola Molloy

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David Terry wrote:

 THE PEGASUS FILE

 A former CIA deep-cover agent turns whistleblower at great risk.
 His shocking allegations expose powerful names controlling the international drug 
trade in very high places.

 Vietnam Special Forces Air Combat Controller; 25-year CIA deep-cover agent; US Army 
pilot flying classified missions during the US invasion of Grenada;
 Iran-Contra pilot flying cocaine shipments labelled as medical supplies; and member 
of the ultra-secret, international G7-run Pegasus "hit team"...this is the
 extraordinary story of Gene "Chip" Tatum.

 From sensitive, highly secretive (and hitherto largely unknown) Special Forces 
covert operations in Cambodia, to wandering CIA asset; through to "black ops"
 activities in Grenada and Oliver North's Iran-Contra "Enterprise", as well as 
membership in an international "hit team", Gene "Chip" Tatum has seen it all, done it 
all
 and is now telling it all.

 Tatum claims to know where the skeletons are buried. Above all, he is aware that his 
testimony implicates serving and former US Presidents plus a whole list of
 high-level government officials and others in a welter of nefarious activities - 
including assassination, blackmail, coercion, gun-running, money-laundering and
 cocaine-trafficking.

 Tatum, a lanky Floridian, turned whistleblower following his arrest on a treason 
charge in early 1995. The charge was both astonishing and patently ludicrous, and
 was later dropped and replaced by a fraud charge - a drastic step-down. Found 
guilty, he was sentenced to serve a 15-month sentence. In March 1996, an
 additional charge - conspiring to embezzle - was brought against him. Found guilty, 
he was incarcerated in Jesup Federal Correctional Facility, Georgia, where he is
 serving a 27-month concurrent sentence. Ensuing press interest resulted in one 
article appearing in the Tampa Tribune on 4 May 1996.

 Many questions continue to hang over the conduct of the trial. His defence lawyer 
refused to call any of the 80 witnesses whom Tatum nominated for the defence.
 Later, his lawyer freely confessed to having come under pressure from the US 
Department of Defense. Tatum says the first charge was a set-up to discredit him
 following his "resignation" from "Operation Pegasus". The second charge he views 
with greater scepticism and concern.

 Tatum's resignation from Pegasus followed his refusal to "neutralise" a leading US 
political figure in the 1992 US presidential elections. Tatum declares he will not
 "participate in assassinations of any sort, character assassinations or anything, of 
American citizens". He goes on to explain that back in 1994, in a telephone
 conference call involving Oliver North, Felix Rodríguez and the late William Colby 
of the CIA, he was warned to turn over incriminating documents and tapes he had
 accumulated for his "retirement". He wryly observes that had he done so, he would 
probably have been quickly "terminated" in an "extreme" way - a speciality of the
 Pegasus team of which he was once a member.

 Countering this demand, Tatum volunteered to plead guilty on a fabricated felony 
count and serve a 12-month sentence - so that his credibility would be damaged in
 the event he ever decided to speak out. His incarceration for the second charge - 
and especially the six- month sentence of his wife, Nancy - led him to speak out
 about his life, almost 30 years of which he served as a "black" operative, and to 
reveal and destroy the command structure of Pegasus. It is an extraordinary story.

 "OPERATION RED ROCK"

 Tatum has written of his early career in the military, and his involvement in a 
highly sensitive and classified operation, in an unpublished manuscript entitled 
"Operation
 Red Rock". Joining the Air Force in February 1970, he went through Army jump school, 
escape and evasion training, jungle training, sea survival school and diving
 school and was assigned along with six others as "Combat Controllers" (the USAF 
equivalent of Special Forces), receiving his distinctive Special Forces
 burgundy-coloured beret. From there he was assigned to Tinker Air Force Base, 
Oklahoma, and then on to Fort Bragg, North Carolina - home of the "Green
 Berets" - for training in C4 plastic explosives, mines, nuclear, biological and 
chemical warfare, plus indoctrination in electronic and psychological operations.

 Posted to South-East Asia as Airman First Class (A1C) in December 1970, he was 
assigned as a radio operator on a Forward Air Control (FAC) aircraft attached
 to Task Force Alpha at Nakhon Phanom, Thailand. In short order he was recruited (an 
involuntary "volunteer") to "Team Red Rock". The team was composed of
 eight US Army Green Berets, three US Navy SEALs and two "cowboys" - a euphemism for 
CIA paramilitary specialists. With Tatum attached, Team Red Rock
 totalled 14 in all, and was about to be tasked with an operation that came directly 
from the White House.

 In January 1971 

Re: [CTRL] why no cheeseburgers

1999-09-19 Thread Nicola Molloy

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http://www.audiocentral.com/rshows/6640/archives98.html

That was interesting Michael.

You have been named after the warrior angel.You may like Chuck Missler
who was Jewish by birth and after studying the Old Testament as a
scholar found proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that Jesus was the
Messiah. Not only that but he invented his own codes in the Bible
without the aid of a computer even though he was one of the forerunners
in the computer world. He has written a book about 500 pages on all the
codes in there. Called Cosmic Codes, I'm buying it. Astronomy and
religion , just love it!  I get sick of people guessing the age of the
universe every few months. Chuck knows everything - age of the universe,
no problem.  His brain is beyond belief. He just pours out wisdom like a
fountain. I heard him the other day on the radio talking about the speed
of light and how it actually has changed its speed between 500BC and
1980 and that its speed over the centuries goes in a wave formation.

He is easy to understand but his brain goes like the speed of light
analyzing the universe how it was created. I wonder if God gave him
Solomons wisdom by inheritance. hmmm Now this could turn out interesting
I have heard, from someone who was originally Jewish living in Israel
that more than half the Orthodox Rabbis living in Israel have recognized
Jesus as the Messiah and will all announce it together when they think
it is the right time. Lord Rothschild is paying for the rebuilding of
Solomon's temple now and they have 200 descendants of Aaron training for
priests. They can tell who has Aaron's blood genetically.

 A Genetic Trace is Found Linking Kohanim Worldwide and more at

  http://www.grantjeffrey.com/intfra.htm

Grant Jeffrey keeps an eye on the NWO and is very astute about what big
bro is doing especially surveillance, as he used to work in banking.

 Grant has also written another book on yet another Bible code which a
Jewish scholar discovered. I think the book is Signature of God but not
sure of the exact name. But it was No 1 best seller. Both theirs and
Chuck's codes are different to the famous Bible Code Book. But I have
also read of yet another code too. This is getting interesting because
as more and more people find codes in the Bible others find the opposite
reason to discount the truth by finding old manuscripts of the time that
contradict it.

Its getting to be either absolutely true to the letter or totally wrong
to some who perceive truth by manuscripts alone and spec as the new
translations are funded by the Illuminati.Easy to read now, they say for
modern man. I won't preach too much here but I think Jerusalem will be
the highlight of 2,000 as they will be trying to bring about the One
World Religion thru UN law. I expect the holograms will be headed in
that direction. Don't know whether they still have that entity Matreiya
as World Teacher, but apparently Benjamin Creme is involved with UN.They
apparently channel some ET called Kyron in the religion arm of UN. I'm
locating info on this.

Nicky






MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 YOU are WAY cool!

 Thanks for the answer.

 I'm a Jew, by birth, no lessI just rebelled against the shit
 for so long, i.e., my dad's orthodox, my mon, a convert, a
 convert to OTHODOX BEFORE MY BIRTH (formally a Tenn Hillbilly:),
 and because my dad's fam never really accepted the "union," my
 parents never taught me of religion AT ALL..I learned about it in
 college in humanities, from my negroid BEST FRIENDS as a kid, and
 my jewish playmates, circa same), until about ten years ago, when
 I realized that Jesus the Christ was PROBABLY Immanual/Emanuel!
 That's when I became a "FIERCE WARRIOR OF THE LIGHT," i.e.
 ESSENE (and/or constantly appologising for not following the
 strictest of YHVH's LAWS all the time:), a warrior as was Jesus
 for HIS FATHER!  IE "THE LAW!"

 Love you...and thanks for teaching me more, you dirty bastard;-)
 As if I don't have the vast majority of my prayer time daily
 ALREADY GOING TO REPENTINT!

 :)

 On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Tenorlove wrote:

   -Caveat Lector-
 


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[CTRL] Kyron at UN

1999-09-19 Thread Nicola Molloy

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http://www.ufomind.com/misc/1997/dec/d26-001.shtml


Better take a look at this folks about 'Kyron' being channelled at UN.
Also found this - Kyron's home page. Bit of advice for us humans - Says
it should take about 90 days to get used to your implants. Oh boy : (

http://kryon.org/pastpost.htm

Nicky


Re: Who is Robert Petro? (Sedona psychic)
At: http://www.ufomind.com/misc/1997/dec/d22-002.shtml

  * Glenn Campbell Writes:

 This psychic's autobiography ought to raise some flags

I just knew you were going to say that.  (And yes, I know that
you knew that I was going to say that...)

I've never heard of Mr Petro either, but I can shed some
light on...

 On his main page it says, "Robert Petro was awarded the peace
 medal by the United Nations Parapsychology Society."

 Funny that I have never heard of that society.  I didn't know
 the U.N. was into that sort of thing. A metacrawler search for
 "United Nations Parapsychology Society" turns up nothing.

The "United Nations Parapsychology Society" changed its name in
1993 to the "Society for Enlightenment and Transformation -
S.E.A.T."

According to a letter I received from Mr Mohammad A. Ramadan, the
President of "S.E.A.T." in 1993, their objectives are "to research
and stimulate interest in the processes of human transformation
now taking place worldwide."

To this end, the Parapsychology Society/S.E.A.T. organized several
after-hours get-togethers for U.N. employees and like-minded
members of the public in U.N. conference rooms.

S.E.A.T. was overseen by the UNSRC, the United Nations Staff
Recreation Council, as were all other staff-based activities of
the U.N.

The topics and invited speakers were many and varied: "Developing
Your Five Unknown Senses," (Nancy Anne Clark, M.T.C.),;"Children of
Star Women" (Parisha); "The New Image of Man: A Look at Paranormal
Strategies (Dr James Hurtak), channelled "Kryon's Special
Message to the United Nations" (Lee Carroll); "Second Symposium
on Extraterrestrial Intelligence and Human Future," and so on.

While most of the people invited to speak at these functions were
aware that the society was purely an after-hours pursuit of
U.N. staffers, others took great advantage of being invited
to speak "at the U.N."  Crop circle promoter Colin Andrews
issued a press release announcing his lecture "to the United
Nations" about the "mysterious" circles, and even made headlines
in the local paper back home with news that he had been tasked by
the U.N. to investigate the crop circles on its behalf.  I suspect
this was news to the Secretary-General.

The UN Parapsychology Society/S.E.A.T., has as much of an impact
on U.N. policy-making as the MicroSoft film society has on
Bill Gates' choice of home decor.

 [...]

 The seminar covers: "Astral Projection, Astrology, Numerology,
 Healing, Tarot, Auras and Color, Pendulum and Divining Rods,
 Dreams , Channeling, Meditation and Self Hypnosis, Rings and
 Fingers, Palmistry, Marketing."

What?  No predicting winning lotto numbers?

 Petro gives another seminar on Shamanism at similar cost.

I'd rather learn how to predict winning lotto numbers...

 - John

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[CTRL] Fw: Prayers Needed

1999-09-19 Thread Linda Minor





-Original Message-To: 
Linda A. Minor [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Sunday, 
September 19, 1999 12:57 AMSubject: Fw: Prayers 
Needed

Dear Lin,

I thought you might like reading this letter from 
someone who tells about the Ft. Worth church shootings from within the 
church. A friend from Wichita Falls sent this to us. We've read the 
articles you've sent us regarding the shooting and it's all interesting and sad 
that this kind of thing happens in our society. 
Date: Saturday, September 18, 1999 12:02 
PMSubject: Prayers NeededI just received 
this from my friend, who was a member of 
my youth choir and youth ensemble The New Generation when I 
wasminister of music in Nederland, TX. This was written by his 
brother, a professor atSouthwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. 
 I think it speaks for itself:Dr. Dan R. 
CrawfordProfessor of Evangelism and Spiritual FormationChair of 
PrayerSouthwestern Baptist Theological Seminary P.O. Box 22,298Fort 
Worth, TX 76122Phone: (817) 923-1921, Ext. 6670FAX: (817) 
921-8767e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Dear Friends, 
Family and Prayer Partners, Last Sunday, my sermon subject was 
When God Gives a Test from Genesis 22.Little did I know how much 
I, myself would need the truths of that sermonthis week.Wednesday 
evening, while my family worshipped at our church, WedgwoodBaptist Church in 
Fort Worth, our faith was suddenly and dramatically putto the test.A 
lone gunman entered our church facilities. In the foyer, he shot 
twoSouthwestern Seminary students and a recent graduate, then entered 
theworship center and began to shoot into the audience of mostly 
teen-agersattending a post See-You-At-The-Pole Prayer and Praise 
rally. More thanforty were injured before the gunman took his own 
life. As of today, eightare dead and several others remain in 
hospitals in various conditions. Twoof the dead were Seminary 
students, one was a recent graduate. Others wereour friends and fellow 
church members.My wife, Joanne, heard someone shouting, I've been 
shot! This is no joke!I've been shot! She walked out of 
the Fellowship Hall, where the adultswere having Prayer Meeting, and saw 
Kevin Galey, our church Counselorlaying on the floor, being attended too by 
other church members. His shirtwas covered with blood. Twenty 
years ago, when I was Baptist StudentMinistries Director at the University 
of Texas, Kevin was on my StudentLeadership Council. He used to baby 
sit with our children. Wanting tostop and help, Joanne also knew that 
our seven-year old granddaughter wasin GAs in another part of the 
building. She ran, passing other wounded, towhere Whitney and other 
girls were participating in their children'sactivity. As the first to 
arrive there with the news, Joanne helped getthe children safely out of the 
building and across the street to anelementary school. Later I would 
spend several hours at that elementaryschool ministering to Seminary 
students and friends.Our phone rang into the wee hours of Thursday 
morning and has continued asfriends from near and far call to see if we are 
OK, to assure us of theirprayers and to get information. Thursday 
morning my office e-mail wasfilled with correspondence from around the world 
as former students pickedup pieces of the news over the internet. 
Yesterday's Seminary chapelservice was long and emotional. Classes 
were turned into group counselingsessions. Everywhere I went, someone 
wanted to talk about the shooting. Reporters were every where competing for 
quotes. CBS news even called ourhome phone number to get a 
quote. Today has been much of the same. Tomorrow, we will attend three 
funeral services. Sunday, I will sit asidemy planned sermon and try to 
offer biblical answers to the questions of thepeople who attend the church 
where I serve as Interim Pastor.How can you pray for us? Many have 
asked. Please know in advance that yourprayer support is and will be greatly 
appreciated.1. Pray for Joanne. She is still processing all 
of the events and today isemotionally drained and physically tired. Today's 
Fort Worth had a diagramof where each shooting actually happened and Joanne 
realized for the firsttime how near she was to some of those who were 
killed.2. Pray for our granddaughter, Whitney. She saw far too 
much blood andchaos. She doesn't want to go to school because they 
prayed at theflagpole and people got shot in the same day. She doesn't 
want to go tochurch because she is afraid there are dead bodies there as 
well as akiller who will try to kill people. Also, pray for our 
daughter Danna asshe tries to minister to her daughter, Whitney.3. 
Pray for me as I try to find satisfactory answers to difficult questionsI'm 
being asked. I have tried to give strength and encouragement to somany 
people and now I find need for the same thing. Who helps 
hurtingSamaritans?4. Pray for our friend and Pastor Dr. Al 
Meridith. On Wednesday, he hadjust returned from Michigan and the 
funeral of his mother. He had gone 

[CTRL] Fw: A POSSIBLE FACTOR IN THE FT. WORTH SHOOTINGS?

1999-09-19 Thread Lloyd Miller


-Original Message-
From: APFN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, September 19, 1999 3:05 AM
Subject: A POSSIBLE FACTOR IN THE FT. WORTH SHOOTINGS?


HAARP Data for September 15

The following message from a respondent correctly points out that data
scale of the graph for the September 15 HAARP magnetic fluctuation
reading is only ONE-TENTH the scale for data in the displayed graph for
previous days.
http://skywatch.iwarp.com/texas/

We did NOT notice this, and this would tend to SOMEWHAT invalidate the
possibility HAARP transmissions were a factor in the Fort Worth
shootings--except for one very important point.

The September 15 chart DOES nevertheless indicate that strength of
HAARP's magnetic output WAS shifting widely and rapidly at this time;
which IS as we noted previously one of the hallmarks of mood and
mind-altering transmissions being broadcast. Also it's not possible to
tell from the September 15 graph shown just exactly HOW WIDE the
fluctuations actually were, as the scale does not extend as far as the
scale in the other graph.

NewsHawk Inc.







[CTRL] Fw: [CIA-DRUGS] Fwd: [TheFrogPond] Al-Fayed: Dodi And Di Murdered

1999-09-19 Thread Linda Minor


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Date: Sunday, September 19, 1999 3:19 AM
Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] Fwd: [TheFrogPond] Al-Fayed: Dodi And Di Murdered


Reminds me of US CIA and its accountibility




From: Jean Staffen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Source:http:/ /cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9909/17/BC-DIANA-FAYED.reut/index.html

Al-Fayed: Dodi And Di Murdered; Driver Paul Blinded By Laser And Blood Swapped

   9-18-99



   LONDON (Reuters) -- Harrods store owner Mohamed al-Fayed
   accused British intelligence on Friday of killing Princess Diana and
   his son Dodi, allegations the government called "baseless."

   Al-Fayed said Henri Paul, the driver of the car in which the couple
   died in Paris two years ago, had acted on the orders of Britain's MI5
   and MI6 security agencies and the French intelligence service.

   "He drove into the tunnel under the instructions of MI6 and MI5
   and French intelligence," al-Fayed told BBC radio in an interview.
   "They killed him, they had to kill him, of course."

   Al-Fayed has persisted with his version of events despite a French
   judicial inquiry that found Paul was drunk when his Mercedes
   limousine crashed at high speed into a pillar in a Paris road tunnel on
   August 31, 1997.

   The British Foreign Office said there was "not a shred of truth" in
   the allegation that the accident was the result of a conspiracy.

   "The implication that an agency of the British government might
   have had some involvement is baseless, and deeply upsetting for the
   royal family, the princess's family and all those who wish to
   remember her life and achievements," a spokesman said.

   Al-Fayed said Paul was sober and his blood sample had been
   switched at the mortuary. Paul had been a paid informer of MI6,
   Britain's foreign intelligence agency, for three years, he said.

   Al-Fayed, an Egyptian, called MI5, Britain's counter-intelligence
   service, and MI6 "two evil organisations accountable to nobody."

   "People have to understand that what happened to Diana and what
   happened to my son is a murder and I am not going keep quiet until
   I get to the truth."

   Al-Fayed said he had been unable to obtain proof to back his
   allegations because British secrecy laws denied him access to the
   files of the intelligence services.

   Al-Fayed said Dodi, a playboy film producer, had been engaged to
   marry Diana, who was divorced from British royal heir Prince
   Charles the year before she died. Friends of Diana say she did not
   intend to marry Dodi.

   Al-Fayed repeated his contention that the crash was caused by a
   white Fiat Uno car, which has not been traced, pushing the
   Mercedes into the pillar.

   He also revisited a theory, supported by a witness dismissed by
   French police as unreliable, that driver Paul -- an employee of
   Fayed's Ritz Hotel -- was blinded by a laser light.

   "Where is the Fiat Uno which pushed the car the into the column?
   Where is the motorcycle which ran away with a laser gun, blinding
   the driver?" Al-Fayed asked.


Diana Driver's Blood 'Swapped' In Murder Cover-Up
   Says Al-Fayed


   LONDON (AFP) - British and French intelligence swapped the
   blood of the driver of Princess Diana's car to cover up the "murder"
   of Diana and her companion Dodi Fayed, Egyptian millionaire
   Mohammed Al Fayed claimed Friday.

   In an interview with the BBC, Dodi's father accused Britain and
   France of killing the couple and then trying to lay the blame on Paul,
   who also died in the crash.

   A two-year investigation by French judges concluded Paul was
   drunk, under medication and speeding when their Mercedes car
   crashed into a pillar on the Alma road tunnel in Paris early on
   August 31, 1997.

   Fayed, owner of the Harrods department store in London and the
   Ritz Hotel in Paris, has repeatedly accused the British secret services
   and royal family of plotting the deaths, and is appealing the ruling by
   the French judges.

   He returned to the attack in the BBC interview, insisting that if only
   he was allowed access to secret service files, he could prove it was
   all a plot.

   "Henri Paul's blood was exchanged in the mortuary, it's not Henri
   Paul's blood ... I'm going to prove that the blood is not Henri Paul's
   blood," he added.

   Fayed said Paul had been in the pay of British intelligence and drove
   into the tunnel "under the instruction" of the British and French
   secret services.

   He too had to die as part of the plot so he could not 

[CTRL] The Origins of the Public School

1999-09-19 Thread M.A. Johnson

 -Caveat Lector-

~~for educational purposes only~~

The Origins of the Public School
by Robert P. Murphy
 [Robert Murphy is a recent graduate from
  Hillsdale College in Michigan]

Hardly anyone disputes the contention that the
modern public school is seriously flawed. Test
scores continue to be poor while metal detectors
are found in the more violent schools.
Welfare-state liberals argue that schools in
poor areas need more money to place them on an
equal footing with their richer counterparts:
Conservatives usually reply that the solution
is a voucher system that would break the
government monopoly on education by restoring
choice and control to parents. But virtually
all participants on both sides of the debate
concede the nobility of the original reformers;
in their view, the "good intentions" of such
school champions as Horace Mann and John Dewey
led to "unintended consequences."

Such admiration is misplaced. As historian
Michael Katz writes, "The crusade for educational
reform led by Horace Mann... was not the simple,
unambiguous good it had long been taken to be;
the central aim of the movement was to establish
more efficient mechanisms of social control, and
its chief legacy was the principle that 'education
was something the better part of the community
did to the others to make them orderly, moral,
and tractable.' [1]


Private Education Displaced

Before the 1830s, education was largely an
"informal, local affair," in which Catholic,
Protestant, and other schools competed for
pupils. [2]  Often local governments would
provide modest aid to schools, albeit in an
unsystematic manner. But there certainly was no
conception of a "public" school, neither in the
United States nor anywhere else in the Western
world. The distinction between private and public
schools was not crystallized until the "school
wars" of the 1840s, which officially ended the
use of public funds to support Catholic
schools. [3]

What were the causes of that shift from private
to public education? It is impossible to review
the period in question and fail to conclude that
the drive for public education was largely a
response to the huge influx of poor,
non-Protestant immigrants. Between 1821 and
1850 just under 2.5 million Europeans emigrated
to the United States, over one million of whom
were Irish Catholics. Nativist and "Know-Nothing"
backlashes occurred, which included the burning
of Catholic buildings and other forms of
bigotry. [4]  Many viewed Catholics as owing
their loyalty to the Pope. One editor wrote that
"a Romanist minority, trained by nuns and
priests.., furnishes the majority of our
criminals. [5]

The increase in Catholics naturally led to
construction of more Catholic schools. Many
Protestants felt that they had to take action
to check the rising prevalence of a false
creed. Doubtless many would have supported
government establishment of the Protestant
church. Mann himself lamented that "there had
never yet been a Christian government on
earth." [6]  The general respect for religious
tolerance, however, made such a bold move
politically impossible. Instead, control of
religion was cleverly instituted through the
public school. "The public school, an important
socializing institution, became the substitute
for the American national church," Susan Rose
writes. [7]

The "nondenominational" religious education
eloquently described by Horace Mann was a
farce -- the schools employed Protestant hymns,
prayers, and the King James Bible. It was in
response to such non-neutrality that the Catholic
parochial system was established in 1874. [8]

As with all who rely on government, Protestants
would eventually rue the unholy alliance of state
and school that their predecessors had established.
As America became increasingly secularized, so
went the public school. Like the Catholics before
them, Protestants felt compelled to establish
their own private schools to protect their
children from the humanist and agnostic education
they would now receive at the hands of the
state. [9] Their forefathers had failed to see
the danger common to all "democratic" coercion:
one day the comfortable majority may find itself
in the oppressed minority.


Schools as Protectionism

While the particular reasons for school
consolidation were thus religious at heart,
the extension of government influence in
the education industry can also be analyzed
as an attempt by inefficient "firms" to
hinder competitors, a feature common to all
expansions of state power. (Indeed, in
Oregon, private schooling was literally
forbidden until the Supreme Court in
1927 declared the prohibition
unconstitutional. [10]) The primary
supporters of Mann's drive to standardize
curricula and centralize the disbursement
of public funds were precisely those who
would benefit financially from such
policies. They included the trade unions,
whose members benefited from the removal
of children from the labor market, and the
upper middle class, whose children were more
likely 

[CTRL] The Central Fallacy of Public Schooling

1999-09-19 Thread M.A. Johnson

 -Caveat Lector-

~~for educational purposes only~~

The Central Fallacy of Public Schooling
by Daniel Hager
  [Daniel Haer is a writer in Lansing, Michigan]

When World War II ended, Congress authorized a tax
cut to take effect January 1, 1946. YoungAmerica, a
publication distributed through public schools, ran
an article in its December 13, 1945, issue
discussing the measure and presenting a brief history
of American taxation. The article concluded with a
section titled "Then  Now: Taxes Serve Us."

"One hundred years ago" the writer stated, "our
government helped the citizens by maintaining order.
It did little else. Its expenses were low, and so
taxes were low." He then quoted Benjamin Franklin's
observation in Poor Richard's Almanack in 1758:
"It would be a hard government that should tax
its people one-tenth part of their income." The
Young America writer continued, "In 1940, our
Federal, State and local governments taxed us
one-fifth of our incomes. But Franklin could not
have guessed the tremendous growth of this country."
(Emphasis in original.)

The writer then offered justification for such
high taxes: "As students, our young citizens are
given school buildings. Our government does
hundreds of things for us in our everyday life."
He finished with a quotation from Supreme Court
Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.: "I like to
pay taxes. It is purchasing civilization."

The article vividly illustrates the overriding
intent of public schooling, which has always
been indoctrination of the young.


Who's in Charge?

Indoctrination itself is not illegitimate. In
fact, it is an intrinsic part of child rearing.
Out of love and concern, parents explicitly or
implicitly formulate desired outcomes for the
young lives they have created. Parents generally
hope their children will adhere to their own
traditions and belief systems, which they
attempt to inculcate.

The question parents must face is, "Who will
do the indoctrinating?" Schooling is an adjunct
to child rearing. The schooling options
available force parents to make decisions
regarding the level of autonomy they wish to
exercise. They retain the greatest control over
their children's developing beliefs by schooling
them at home. An alternative is to enroll their
children in an institution where they are certain
the indoctrination conforms to their own values,
such as a religious school.

When parents send a child to a tax-funded school,
they sacrifice their autonomy to alien interests.
The state has goals of its own that are distinct
from those of parents. Parents are able to
economize by availing themselves of a "free"
school, but the bargain is Faustian. The child
is subjected to indoctrination outside parental
control. The price of tax-funded schooling is
that parents give up their children to become
instruments of the state.

Under totalitarian regimes, the subjugation
of parental belief systems to those of the state
is blatant. Schoolchildren are propagandized into
the doctrines of the leadership, their thoughts
molded to the state's purposes.

But even under a "democratic" regime the
state operates manipulatively for its own ends.
Those who govern generally like to continue
governing. Their governance is more easily
maintained when the governed are passive and
docile. The state propaganda machine must
convince the citizenry of government's benevolence.
Schoolchildren are taught, as in the Young America
article, that government "gives" them things and
"does" things for them.

Government schools inevitably become battlegrounds
for control by ideological adversaries. The nature
of the indoctrination changes as advocates of
particular ideologies wax and wane in their power
to influence curricula. The constant is that parents
have relinquished direct control over what their
children are taught to believe.

This battle has been going on ever since the modern
public school emerged in the first half of the 1800s.
Education historian Joel Spring stated, "In the
Western world of the nineteenth century, various
political and economic groups believed that
government-operated schools could be a mechanism
for assuring the distribution of their particular
ideology to the population. In this sense, public
schools were the first mass medium designed to
reach an entire generation." [1]


Early Theocracy

Indoctrination through compulsory schooling originated
early in the nation's history. Massachusetts Bay Colony
was organized unabashedly as a theocratic government
that required citizens to adhere to stipulated religious
beliefs. In 1642 the Massachusetts General Court passed
an act requiring compulsory education of children and
giving town selectmen the authority to maintain
orthodox teaching and punish recalcitrant parents.
The civil government was in charge of the schools,
which were supported by taxes. R. Freeman Butts and
Lawrence A. Cremin wrote, "Here was the principle
that government had authority to control schools,
and it was well enunciated in the 

Re: [CTRL] why no cheeseburgers

1999-09-19 Thread Tenorlove

 -Caveat Lector-

Michael, I was ROTFLMAO!! No offense taken--I NEVER let my ego get
between my sense of humor and the DELETE button! And I came up with
that line even though it sounds like something Das GOAT would
say..snort--LOL!

BTW, I was brought up Roman Catholic (now belong to my husband's
Presbyterian church  that isn't IT for me either!)  ended up studying
the OT dietary laws for a class project in college. And if you're going
to go ahead and eat cheeseburgers, try this for a twist: Use some other
cheese besides American. Swiss is good, so is HOT PEPPER JACK or
Pepperoni Jack. It needs to be a hard or semi-hard cheese though; there
must be some kind of NWO conspiracy to keep Walnut Gourmandise (similar
to Brie in texture) from melting nicely on burgers without getting
runny  dripping all over the grill. Enjoy!

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[CTRL] Trent Lott wants broad investigation of the FBI

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Dear Peltier supporters,

Please address the following to your Senators and Congressional Reps along
with a short, personal note from yourself.  Please send it and fax it to
them right away.  Please cc copies to Janet Reno, the media and all other
relevant government officials and agencies. You might want to down load the
"statement of FAQ" from our website to send along with it.  Let's jump on
this while it's hot!!!  Thank you!

LPDC

Meanwhile, Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott said that renewed congressional
inquiries into Waco should expand to other instances in which Justice
Department officials may have withheld information about government conduct.
“I think it’s going to have to be broader than just Waco itself,” said Lott,
a Mississippi Republican.  “There are a number of investigations that they
are basically either not doing or they have stiffed us on.  So we need to
find out what’s going on.”  ---AP press

RESPOND!!!

Dear members of congress,

We are very encouraged that Senator Trent Lott recognizes the need for
congressional inquiries to expand beyond FBI misconduct in regard to Waco
and we agree that there have been numerous incidences and patterns of FBI
misconduct that have remained unanswered, uninvestigated, and unaccounted
for.  Meanwhile, victims of such continue to await justice and we, the
American public, are asking you to take immediate action.

We wish to bring to your attention to a particularly urgent and disturbing
example, that being the ongoing incarceration of Native American activist,
Leonard Peltier who has been in prison for some twenty-three years.  Mr.
Peltier, convicted for the shooting deaths of two FBI agents on the Pine
Ridge Reservation, has been declared a political prisoner by Amnesty
International who is demanding his immediate and unconditional release.

The pattern of FBI misconduct involved with the investigation, extradition
from Canada, and trial of Leonard Peltier is well documented.  Senior court
judges, members of congress, and human rights watch groups alike have
repeatedly admonished the FBI for their handling of the Peltier case.
However, no action by the justice department or congress has ever been taken
to remedy or hold the FBI accountable for their shocking abuse of power and
secrecy which has cost several Native Americans their lives , and has left
the life of Leonard Peltier in the balance.

From the beginning, the FBI has withheld information that both documents
their misconduct and establishes Mr. Peltier’s innocence.  Today the FBI
continues this pattern by withholding 6000 documents relating to the Peltier
case for reasons of “National Security.”

.Mr. Leonard Peltier was extradited from Canada on the basis of an affidavit
signed by a Myrtle Poor Bear, a local Native American woman known to have
serious mental problems. She claimed to have been Mr. Peltier’s girl friend
at the time, and to have been present during the shoot out, and to have
witnessed the murders. In fact she did not know Mr. Peltier, nor was she
present at the time of the shooting. She later confessed she had given the
false statement after being pressured and terrorized by FBI agents.  A third
Poor Bear affidavit which had clearly contradicted the two used to extradite
Leonard Peltier had been withheld by the FBI.  Upon hearing this issue on
appeal, the 8th circuit court stated, “the use of the affidavits of Myrtle
Poor Bear in the extradition proceedings was, to say the least, a clear
abuse of the investigative process by the F.B.I.”  No action has ever been
taken to hold the FBI accountable for this illegal conduct.

Freedom of Information Act documents which were released, revealed that the
main evidence used to convict Mr. Peltier had in fact been manufactured and
exculpatory evidence relating to it, withheld.  On appeal, the 8th circuit
stated “there is a possibility that the jury would have acquitted Leonard
Peltier had the records and data improperly withheld from the defense been
available to him in order to better exploit and reinforce the
inconsistencies casting strong doubts upon the government's case.” Yet, the
appeal was denied and Mr. Peltier remains in prison.  (When faced with the
above, U.S. prosecutor, Lynn Crooks admitted and later established that they
could not prove who killed the agents.)

Prior to the shoot-out which led up to Mr. Peltier’s conviction, the Senate
Select 

Re: [CTRL] SWAT Nation [rant]

1999-09-19 Thread Sean McDougal

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2.  the situation is now the individual vs the State. and  is being carried
by events.
..
I must disagree.  The "state" keeps us subservient by making us into
individuals, by dividing to conquer.  I think it is more a case of the state
vs. any real community.  The individual is no threat to the state; the
individual is easily manipulated.  United communities independent from the
state are the threat.

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Re: [CTRL] The Origins of the Public School

1999-09-19 Thread ASu2431426

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BEYOND MICHAEL JOHNSON

Its a pity that Michael Johnson does not push his argument into conspiracy
territory.  No need to be shy.  The facts are well documented.  .

Horace Mann and Thomas Dewey were indeed instruments  in transforming
 education  into a State condition ing vehicle, as Johnson argues..

But before these came Wilhelm Wundt, three members of SB (Gilman ,Dwight and
White) and assorted German and Swiss Illuminati.  Follow these and you find
the conspiracy.

On page 64 of AMERICAS SECRET ESTABLISHMENT  you find a photograph of David C
Gilman.  The Skull  Bones badge is neatly pinned to his shirt front

On page 79  is the story of Johann Hebart who came before Wundt and the Swiss
Pestalozzi whose education literature traces directly backwards to named
Illuminati.
and forwards to todays Hegelian system.


ANTONY SUTTON

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[CTRL] Humor: THE RULES OF CHOCOLATE

1999-09-19 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

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THE RULES OF CHOCOLATE

If you've got melted chocolate all over your hands, you're
eating it too slowly.

Chocolate covered raisins, cherries, orange slices and
strawberries all count as fruit, so eat as many as you want.

The problem: How to get 2 pounds of chocolate home from the
store in a hot car.
The solution: Eat it in the parking lot.

Diet tip: Eat a chocolate bar before each meal.  It'll take
the edge off your appetite, and you'll eat less.

If calories are an issue, store your chocolate on top of the
fridge. Calories are afraid of heights, and they will jump out
of the chocolate to protect themselves.

If I eat equal amounts of dark chocolate and white chocolate,
is that a balanced diet?  Don't they actually counteract each
other?

Money talks.  Chocolate sings.  Beautifully.

Chocolate has many preservatives.  Preservatives make you look
younger. Therefore, you need to eat more chocolate.

Put "eat chocolate" at the top of your list of things to do
today.  That way, at least you'll get one thing done.

A nice box of chocolates can provide your total daily intake
of calories in one place.  Now, isn't that handy?

If you can't eat all your chocolate, it will keep in the
freezer.  But if you can't eat all your chocolate, what's
wrong with you?

If not for chocolate, there would be no need for control top
pantyhose. An entire garment industry would be devastated.
You can't let that happen, can you?

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[CTRL] Giant morgue prepared for New Year disasters

1999-09-19 Thread Dan S

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From The Sunday Times,
http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/99/09/19/stinwenws01029.html?99
9
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September 19 1999 BRITAIN

Giant morgue prepared for New Year disasters
Maurice Chittenden

A SPORTS centre with room for up to 1,000 bodies has been set aside as a
makeshift mortuary in case of a disaster in London on millennium night.

More than 2m people are expected to line the banks of the Thames to
celebrate the arrival of the 21st century. Emergency planners fear many
could end up in the river, on purpose or by accident.

One reason the river event, known as Big Time, is being staged is to help
divert crowds from Trafalgar Square, the traditional place of celebration.

But the waterside setting has raised safety concerns. Police, fire and
ambulance services are to stage a disaster exercise using life-sized dummies
in preparation.

Council officers will be paid up to £500 each to be on standby to open the
Queen Mother Sports Centre in Victoria as a morgue. In the event of a major
civil emergency, bodies will be laid across five badminton courts in the
sports hall.

The government is considering closing some of the busiest Thames bridges, or
allowing only police, fire engines and ambulances access.

The bridges will be among the best vantage points to see the promised "river
of fire" show, a 15-minute firework display just after midnight launched
from barges on the Thames. A control centre at Westminster city hall will
monitor the crowds using closed circuit television.

Police have been trying to reduce the New Year crowds in Trafalgar Square
since 1982, when two women were crushed to death and 193 people injured. In
recent years the crowd has dropped from a peak of 120,000 to 70,000. The
"river of fire" is intended to attract people away from the square to the
Thames embankment.

Nick Raynsford, the minister for London, said: "I want to make it clear that
in planning this event safety has been our prime concern."

A spokesman for the Port of London Authority, which will control boats on
the Thames, said: "We have to assume the worst, which means not just the
expectation that a number of people will be depressed and try to commit
suicide or that cults may stage mass suicides, but that far greater numbers
of people, sparked by exuberance and too much drink, will jump in for a
laugh, not realising how much trouble they can get into."

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[CTRL] Clinton Ordered Training of Terrorists who Killed 200,000 in E. Timor

1999-09-19 Thread Richard Sampson

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http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/Print/0,3858,3903530,00.html

US trained butchers of Timor

Exclusive: Washington trained death squads in secret while Britain has
spent £1m
helping Indonesian army

Ed Vulliamy in New York and Antony Barnett
Sunday September 19, 1999
The Observer

Indonesian military forces linked to the carnage in East Timor were
trained in the United States under a
covert programme sponsored by the Clinton Administration which continued
until last year.

The Observer can also disclose that the Government has spent about £1
million in training more than 50
members of the Indonesian military in Britain since it came to power.
Human rights campaigners claim a
number of these are likely to have links with those complicit in the
attrocities.

The US programme, codenamed 'Iron Balance', was hidden from legislators
and the public when Congress
curbed the official schooling of Indonesia's army after a massacre in
1991. Principal among the units that
continued to be trained was the Kopassus Ð an elite force with a bloody
history Ð which was more
rigorously trained by the US than any other Indonesian unit, according
to Pentagon documents passed to
The Observer last week. Kopassus was built up with American expertise
despite US awareness of its role
in the genocide of about 200,000 people in the years after the invasion
of East Timor in 1975, and in a
string of massacres and disappearances since the bloodbath. Amnesty
International describes Kopassus
as 'responsible for some of the worst human rights violations in
Indonesia's history'.

The Pentagon documents Ð obtained by the US-based East Timor Action
Network and Illinois
congressman Lane Evans Ð detail every exercise in the covert training
programme, conducted under a
Pentagon project called JCET (Joint Combined Education and Training).
They show the training was in
military expertise that could only be used internally against civilians,
such as urban guerrilla warfare,
surveillance, counter-intelligence, sniper marksmanship and
'psychological operations'.

Specific commanders trained under the US programme have been tied to the
current violence and to some
of the worst massacres of the past 20 years, including the slaughter at
Kraras in 1983 and at Santa Cruz in
1991. The US-trained commanders include the son-in-law of the late
dictator General Suharto, Prabowo
Subianto, and his mentor, General Kiki Syahnakri Ð the man appointed
last week by the so-called 'reform'
government as commissioner for martial law in East Timor.

The secret programme unveiled in the document became the focus for
military training when above-board
aid was curtailed by Congress after the Santa Cruz massacre. Congress
had stepped in after up to 270
peaceful protesters Ð many of them schoolchildren Ð were murdered by
Kopassus shock troops as they
paraded through Dili.

American sponsorship of the Indonesian regime began as a matter of Cold
War ideology, in the wake of
defeat in Vietnam. The left-wing movement in East Timor was feared by
Jakarta and seen by the US as an
echo of those in southern Africa and of Salvador Allende's government in
Chile. Jakarta's harassment of the
Timor government and the invasion of 1975 were duly encouraged by the
United States.

The training of Indonesia's officer corps peaked during the
mid-Eighties. In 1990 a former official at the US
Embassy in Jakarta cabled the State Department to say US sponsorship had
been 'a big help to the
(Indonesian) army. They probably killed a lot of people and I probably
have a lot of blood on my hands'.

But the horror of Santa Cruz in 1991, when trucks were seen dumping
bodies in the sea, was too much.
The US decided that the training, while still available, should be paid
for by the recipient nation Ð in other
words, it would no longer be military aid. The covert programme then
became the main means of training
Indonesia's military Ð still at the American taxpayers' expense.

In an undated prospectus, the Pentagon says the prime mission was to 'to
develop, organise, equip, train,
advise and direct indigenous militaries'. The scale was small, to offer
concentrated 'significant special
training' which would create 'self-sufficient small units'. In 1996, for
instance, 10 exercises involved 376 US
personnel and 838 Indonesians or 'loyal' Timorese.

Britain also made a significant contribution to Indonesia's military
training. The Observer has established
that, since May 1997, 24 senior members of Indonesia's forces have been
trained in UK military colleges.
This included training in running military units efficiently and how to
used technical equipment like guided
missiles. In addition, 29 Indonesian officers have studied at
non-military establishments.

Revelations of the extent to which Labour has used taxpayers' money to
aid the Indonesian military has
angered many MPs, who claim it makes a mockery of Foreign Secretary
Robin Cook's 'ethical foreign
policy'. In the last four years of the Tory 

[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: ACC ACCUSES WACKENHUT OF HARASSMENT

1999-09-19 Thread Kris Millegan






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Dear Mr Bush:  I found this old press release and wondered if you have any
knowledge of how the investigation ended.  Every prisoner in these prisons
and their family members would also like to know. Every citizen that will
end up in one of these 'private' prisons will want to know.

Seems many of the prison industries who are locking up so many non-violent
people have their own seedy pasts. Unless the investigation uncovered
Wackenhut's innocence, which we also want to know about.

I'd also like to know when I can schedule a meeting with you concerning the
"goon squad,"  the investigation, and the federal prisoner, Gary Waid, who I
understand is still in maximum security.

Kay Lee
909 Virginia Street #B
Key West, FL 33040
305-293-1865
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
http://www.accpc.com/wichunt.htm
"We got a reaction to what we thought would be responded to as a humorous
story, that we did not expect!" stated ACC President Jack Shulman.

P R E S S   R E L E A S E
ACC Accuses Wackenhut
International Corporation
EMPLOYEEs of Tortuous 
Criminal Harassment.
Finds Wackenut's Security Force Website's Digital Signatures on Fraudulent
Messages being placed on ACC's Website by Hackers, who had allegedly
engaged in months of interference in ACC's operations.  Suggests that
Wackenhut might be operating a CYBER-TERRORISM TEAM on the WEB.

Cranford, NJ. April 25, 1997

After discovering digital signatures it couldn't identify on its web server
in bulletin board messages and access records, ACC installed updated remote
host detection code in an effort to determine who or what was behind a
concerted effort to interfere with its operations, and that of its
Publication Department's On-Line Investigation into the Science of Space
Travel, Aerospace Science, and such interesting commentary topics as the
alleged 1947 Roswell, NM crash of a UFO, and public reaction to it, and
theories about the tragic Kennedy, King and Rabin assassinations.

Round the clock surveillance of its own equipment for three months finally
paid off when, after isolating the pattern of fraudulent access to its
servers, a message left by a member of the group of hackers
engaging in what ACC called "pre-planned, well organized harassment of ACC
by wire fraud, email fraud and telephonic threatening", revealed the
original digital signature of that user's WEB HOST, and what is now believed
to be the origins of the entire group hacking ACC's equipment.

The message, one of hundreds from the same small group of hackers,
originated on the servers maintained by Wackenhut International
Corporation's "Mail1" server, part of the Gateway used by Wackenhut, a
billion dollar International Security Force provider to the US Government,
to gain access to the Internet.  Wackenhut's equipment is not set up for
Public Anonymous usage, and has extensive security, precluding the
possibility that the hackers had hacked into Wackenhuts equipment to use it
as a shield, stated an Internet Security Expert
employed by ACC.

"This is consistent with a pattern of deliberate abuse of ACC's Web Servers
and Email accounts: employees at Wackenhut, using its internal Web Server
access accounts and equipment, have apparently been SPAMMING and TERRORIZING
the American Computer Company 'Publications Department'  which has been
pursuing a journalistic investigation of the issues regarding Wackenhut's
CLIENTs involvement in an alleged cover-up of the capture of a Crashed UFO,
kept supposedly at Area 51, which Wackenhut provides inside security
services to for the US Air Force,"  stated a forum supervisor known to the
Internet Public only as 'Morpheus' through the On-Line "Alien Science and
Technologies Forum", maintained by ACC's Publications Department.

"The real question is, which of Wackenhut's very visible CLIENTs may have
commissioned this alleged CYBERWAR against ACC," he added.

The Alien Science and Technology Forum is a light, satiric, educational
investigation of scientific issues involving space travel, aerospace
science, electronic science, physics, and other areas of research, politics,
commerce and human sociology.  Among its topics are the infamous Roswell UFO
Crash, in the public spotlight
recently due to the 50th Anniversary of Roswell held during the Summer of
1997.

During the period, ACC issued a light commentary about the allegations made
by one Lt. Col. Philip Corso, Nuclear Physicist Stanton Friedman and an
anonymous Consultant, that started an inquiry as to whether they were
correct or not in suggesting such 1940's engineering marvels as the Bell
Transistor, were in reality derived from Alien Technology taken off the
allegedly downed Roswell UFO.

Within a week of publishing its original story, ACC indicated, its offices
had been broken into, it had received classified materials leaked it
deliberately by a "consultant" and faxed to it without solicitation, and
extensive sabotage of its Web 

[CTRL] Press Conference Speech of David McReynolds (fwd)

1999-09-19 Thread William Hugh Tunstall

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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:02:01 -0400
[David McReynolds formally declared his candidacy for the Socialist
Party's nomination for President of the United States on September 7,
1999. The following is the text of his speech.]

Let me keep these remarks brief, so that if there are questions there
will be time to ask them.

Let me note that while I think the media has every right to ask
questions about the personal life of a candidate, as it might relate to
job performance, and while I am prepared to respond fully to questions
about any past or current drug use, legal or illegal, the media missed
the key point about Governor Bush and the allegations he may once have
used cocaine.

Anyone seeking the nomination for President on the Democratic or
Republican ticket must raise so much money that the real question is not
the drugs used in the past, but, to put it bluntly, which corporate
forces have bought and paid for the candidate. Neither Governor Bush nor
Vice President Al Gore are free agents. They represent corporate
America.

If anyone wants to know what interests I represent I respond simply that
if I'm nominated at the Socialist Party convention in October I will
represent a group of concerned citizens with little in the way of
financial resources. I will represent their hopes, and the platform and
beliefs of a Party, which I joined in 1951, while a student at UCLA. And
I will work to limit the kind of obscenity we see today when the
corporations openly bid for the candidates. Campaign financing laws must
be enacted that provide a level playing field, with no special favors to
large donors.

It is good that a range of views be offered to the electorate. There is
very little to choose between Bush and Gore, very little real debate of
substance on our domestic and foreign policy. The arena of debate must
be broadened, the range of issues discussed extended. That would be my
job as the candidate of the Socialist Party.

Having seen our government engage in wars without Congressional
approval, in open violation of the UN Charter, whether in Panama under
George Bush, or in Kosova under Bill Clinton. I believe this nation must
not go to war without the full consent of Congress, after debate. The
theory of Executive Wars must end.

Watching our military with its almost hallucinatory budget, I urge the
Pentagon budget be cut immediately by 50%, with radical further cuts
each year. We face no military threat from our immediate neighbors,
Mexico and Canada, and are protected by vast oceans from invasion. The
American military now extends into every area of our lives, and I pledge
to resist the militarization of this nation, this obscene continuation
of a Garrison State so sharply denounced by the late President Dwight D.
Eisenhower when he left office and warned of the military/industrial
complex. Given the ads taken out in the uNew York Times/u by
concerned business leaders worried over the misuse of our tax funds for
unneeded military spending, my position only seems radical because
neither major party is prepared to speak to it.

Nuclear weapons remain a grave danger and we must strive for an
immediate end of all further nuclear testing and take immediate steps to
scale down our own arsenals of nuclear weapons even as we engage with
other nuclear powers to reduce theirs until we have zero nuclear
weapons, and a sense of trust and verification which will give us
assurance that no new weapons are tested and the list of nuclear states
diminishes to zero rather than expanding to disaster.

I call for the closing of all foreign U.S. bases, including the base in
Guantanamo, Cuba. I call for the end of sanctions against Iraq, Cuba and
Libya.

Even as we meet today, people are being killed in East Timor by the
government of Indonesia, armed and supported by the United States. And
even as we appeal to President Clinton to take immediate action to
pressure the Indonesian government to respect the accords on
self-determination, we also know that from the time of Henry Kissinger
until today, the United States has been a patron of Indonesia, and has
close military and economic ties to it. We pledge to oppose with our
full might any further trade in arms by this government. The manufacture
and sale of land mines, military air craft, guns, etc., must end
immediately.

The war on drugs has resulted in an explosion of our prison population
so that we now have the greatest number of prisoners of any nation in
the world - something in which none of us should take pride. We have
seen the creation of virtual prison industrial complex in which the
ultimate victims are those men and women jailed, their families and
friends, and the society which pays vast sums on incarceration rather
than treatment and rehabilitation. In the city of New York it is easier
to be arrested for the sale of heroin than it is to gain admittance to
the drug rehabilitation programs.

The war on drugs 

Re: [CTRL] individual vs. state

1999-09-19 Thread ASu2431426

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Yea.It could  read  "community and individual" vs the state.   I used a
shorthand "the individual" ( which  in aggregate comprise community) to
emphasise individuality and for simplicity.  I am gradually forming the idea
that VOLUNTARY  communities may be the way out of our dilemma..

Whether the individual can be a threat to the state is debatable.  But the
State sure acts as if they can be...and I can vouch for that from  personal
experience..

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[CTRL] Killings in SA

1999-09-19 Thread Taylor, John (JH)

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Electronic Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/





  Black lieutenant kills seven whites at army base
By Anton La Guardia in Bloemfontein



  A BLACK South African army officer was shot dead yesterday after he went
on the rampage against white colleagues killing seven, including several
officers.
Five white soldiers were also wounded, two of them critically. The black
lieutenant, who was not named, fired his automatic rifle as he went from
office to office in the headquarters of the First South African Infantry
Battalion at the Tempe base in Bloemfontein.

The army tried to play down the prospect of a racially-motivated murder
within its ranks, but the killings will raise many uncomfortable questions
about the "integration" of the armed forces after the end of apartheid.

Relatives of the victims said that the black lieutenant - reportedly a
former member of the Azanian People's Liberation Army, the armed wing of the
Pan-Africanist Congress, the radical black party - was angry at the loss of
pay after being absent without leave.

He had gone to speak to the base commander but when he did not find him, he
shot the deputy, a major. He then shot other people in the headquarters
building before continuing his shooting spree outside.

The mother of a wounded major said: "My son tried to take his gun away but
he was shot in the chest. He continued to grapple with him on the ground and
was shot again in the shoulder." The dead included a white civilian woman
working in one of the offices.

An army spokesman said: "The people who were killed were white. The officer
who shot them was black, but it's very dangerous to look at a matter of this
nature along colour lines. It's a person against a person."

The First South African Infantry Battalion is regarded as an elite unit. Its
soldiers were among the first to be deployed in Lesotho last year in an
operation which, despite poor planning, was hailed as proof of the success
of South Africa's new armed forces.

With the end of apartheid, former enemies were merged into a new force. The
old white-dominated South African army was integrated with anti-apartheid
armed guerrillas and the militias of the former black homelands.

It was a delicate process which, until yesterday's shooting, was thought to
be going well despite the ubiquitous racial tensions which still dominate
South African society. At the same time, the force is being cut down from
about 100,000 to 70,000, and is being re-trained for roles including
regional peace-keeping.

The army and police have launched an investigation, and said they will look
into a possible racial motive. They will want to know how the soldier got
hold of live ammunition. The Tempe base, on the outskirts of Bloemfontein,
houses several other units - including paratroopers, special forces and
armour.

Journalists were kept out of the site of the shooting and many soldiers were
reluctant to speak. One black soldier said: "The integration is going well,
but there are still many problems between blacks and whites in the army."
Another black soldier said: "Of course it's about race."

A white officer, however, thought the incident was "personal". He said:
"There is a lot of shock and sadness. But it could have been anybody taking
a gun to his superiors. It might have been a white lieutenant."

The defence minister, Patrick Lekota, and the chief-of-staff Siphiwe Nyanda,
visited the base and appealed for calm. Mr Nyanda said he was still trying
to establish the motive for the killings.






Mbeki calls for calm after army massacre
THE South African government and army yesterday moved to dampen racial
tensions after a black officer, Lt Sibusiso Madubela, 28, killed six white
soldiers and a civilian at Tempe base in Bloemfontein, before being shot
dead by a fellow soldier.
President Thabo Mbeki, appealing for calm, said: "It seems that . . .
something went wrong in his head. He just lost control."
Brig-Gen Hans Heinze, the base commander, urged journalists not to "pour oil
on the flames" by concentrating on the likelihood of a racial motive for the
murders. Madubela was said to have been angry at having his pay docked for
being absent without leave after attending his father's funeral. Anton La
Guardia, Bloemfontein
ISSUE 1576  Saturday 18 September 1999







It was interesting to note the different press reactions to the events.

Primedia owned by Mr Kirsch sppressed it almost immediately.
The independent group, owned by Mr O' Reilly has publicised it and but gives
the line it was not racist.

Ironically the best overall fact orientated reporting has been by the ANC
controlled media
(the TV and Sunday Times(Ramaphosa.
(Mr Nyanda, head of the army is by the way radically anti white in
sentiment)


John

PS One of the soldiers murdered at the base had his first child  born
yesterday.

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[CTRL] OEN 9/19/99

1999-09-19 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A
-

Today's Lesson from The Books in My Life

by Colin Wilson


It was about the time that I was thirteen or fourteen that I began to
catch glimpses of an answer to the problem of nihilism that had reduced
me to such a state of despair and exhaustion.

In a secondhand bookshop, I found the Everyman edition of Goethe's Faust
. Even the awful translation could not disguise the tremendous vitality
of the poetry . . .

But when I came to Faust's opening speech, in his "high vaulted narrow
Gothic chamber," I realized with a shock that the young Goethe had
experienced my own glimpse of meaninglessness.

I have studied, alas, philosophy,
And jurisprudence, and medicine, too,
And worst of all, theology,
With ardent labor through and through.
As here I stick, as wise, poor fool
As when my steps first turned to school.
Master they style me, nay doctor, forsooth
And nigh ten years, o'er rough and smooth,
And up and down, and acrook and across,
I lead my pupils by the nose,
And know that in truth we can know--aught!

"Das wir nichts wissen konnen"--that we can know nothing: the words made
my heart sink. Yet there was also immense comfort in knowing that
someone else had recognized the futility of human knowledge.

There followed a passage that I soon learned by heart:

Would thou, full orbed moon, didst shine
Thy last upon this pain of mine.
Thou whom from this my desk so oft
I watched at midnight climb aloft.
O'er books and papers thou didst send
Thy radiance, melancholy friend.
Ah, could I, on some mountain height,
Float onward, steeped in thy dear light,
Round mountain caves with spirits hover,
Or float the moonlit meadows over,
From fumes of learning purse my soul,
Bathe in thy dew, and so be whole.

Like Faust, I also felt that I had dehydrated my soul with logic and
reason. But whenever I read this passage, I experienced a cooling
sensation, like plunging a blistered finger into cold water, and a sense
of relaxation and serenity. In fact, Goethe does not use the word
"float," but "gehn," which might easily be translated "walk." But this
image of floating peacefully over moonlit meadows always brought a
tremor of sheer joy.
=

Spy vs. Spy

Nuclear Disarmament Chief Was Stasi Secret Agent

The commies just keep on coming.

A UNIVERSITY professor who was on the national council of the Campaign
for Nuclear Disarmament was a communist agent, The Telegraph reveals
today.
Vic Allen, a retired professor of economics at Leeds University, passed
confidential information about CND to East German intelligence officers
and manipulated the peace movement into taking a Soviet-friendly line.

According to secret files compiled by the Stasi, the East German secret
police, Mr Allen provided information on CND leaders and activists for
several years during the Eighties and visited the East German Embassy in
London. In 1985, he unsuccessfully attempted to succeed Joan Ruddock as
the chairman of CND, which then had 400,000 members.

The Telegraph has learnt that MI5 had a file on Mr Allen, 77, but it is
not known if the security service was fully aware of his activities. He
has admitted being an informer but denies betraying his country, acting
illegally or receiving payments. He said: "I feel no regrets."

Security experts said Mr Allen, who lives in Keighley, West Yorks, would
have been regarded as an "agent of influence" by the Stasi. He is the
fourth Communist asset to be unmasked within the past nine days -
causing embarrassment to the security services and the Government.

Robin Pearson, a lecturer at Hull University, was named as a Stasi spy
on Friday. The Home Office said yesterday that although he was
interviewed by MI5 in 1994, it was decided not to prosecute him as there
was no "usable evidence".

Yesterday, Ann Widdecombe, the shadow home secretary, demanded that the
Government disclose details of all alleged communist spies. She said:
"What I want Jack Straw to do is to stop what is now happening, which is
that we are only finding out about these things through press
revelations."

CND, formed in 1958, said it was "appalling and disgusting" that Mr
Allen fed information on its members to the East Germans. A spokesman
said: "It is deeply concerning that anybody should be passing on
information on our members. We were used to being targeted by MI5 and
the Ministry of Defence, but now we find that former Soviet states were
after information on us."

Mr Allen, who packed CND meetings with Soviet sympathisers, aimed to
promote Moscow's unilateral cause within the organisation, urging that
Britain alone disarm its nuclear weapons. Rival factions wanted the
Kremlin to disarm too.

In an interview with BBC2's The Spying Game to be broadcast next month,
Mr Allen admits that he provided information to East Germany. He said:
"It 

[CTRL] Fwd: Re: SNET: Wackenhut Rent-a-Cops

1999-09-19 Thread Kris Millegan






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entitled,"Lockdown America:Police and Prisons in the Age of Crisis," Verso
Publishers. Also a book by the investigative journalist Jim Hougan called
"Spooks,"(circa early 80's?) Wackunhut also figures in the Danny
Casolaro/Promis software theft in the "Octopus"(Feral Press) edited by Ken
Thomas and Jim Keith I believe.
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[CTRL] Fw: Conspiracy Theory Literature FAQ

1999-09-19 Thread Lloyd Miller

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From: Xavier Poez [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Conspiracy Theory Literature FAQ


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   CONSPIRACY THEORY LITERATURE FAQ

   By Xavier Poez, [EMAIL PROTECTED].
   HTML version of this file is available at http://www9.pair.com/xpoez/.


 * introduction
 * overviews
 * worldwide conspiracies
  + secret societies
  + WW I  II, Nazism, etc.
  + Cold War
  + United Nations, NWO
  + government revolutions
  + terrorism, sabotage
  + religion
  + media manipulation
 * money manipulation
  + world bankers
  + Federal Reserve bank, IRS
  + 1929 Great Depression
 * assassinations
  + death of Kennedy
  + death of Lincoln
 * US government
  + NSA
  + CIA
  + mind control: CIA's MKUltra
  + Mena drug trafficking
  + Vince Foster  Whitewater
  + NASA coverups
  + Oklahoma bombing, TWA800
  + presidential directives
 * US military
  + Nazi relocation: project Paperclip
  + secret weaponry/HAARP
  + Montauk/Philadelphia experiment
  + FEMA, Mount Weather
  + Area 51/antigravity research
 * other
  + AIDS
  + cancer
  + free energy
  + aliens/UFOs
 * real/confirmed conspiracies
  + radiation poisoning by government in experiments
  + psychic research and remote viewing by CIA and Soviets
  + chemical poisoning of Gulf War veterans
 * how conspiracies work
  + pyramid structure
  + pawns  dupes
  + double agents
  + agent provocateurs
  + middlemen
  + elite
 * aspects of human nature that lead to conspiracies
  + conspirators:
   o ego
   o greed
   o fear
   o vice
   o megalomania
  + pawns/dupes:
   o naivete  gullibility
   o closemindedness
   o black  white thinking
   o cynicism, apathy
   o "moving target" mentality
   o inability to say no
   o herdlike mentality
   o short attention span, lack of curiosity  questioning
   o fear
 * key methods of advancing conspiracies
  + secrecy
  + greed, bribery
  + guilt, anxiety
  + victimhood
  + intimidation, terror, paranoia, blackmail
  + manipulation
  + infiltration
  + disinformation, lies, revisionism, coverup
  + assassinations
  + suppression/censorship
  + "trojan horse", "bait and switch", "shell game"
  + "frog boiling"
  + "pump and dump"
  + plots within plots
  + decoys, smokescreens
  + problem, reaction, solution (thesis, antithesis, synthesis)
 * resources
  + web sites
  + newsgroups
  + mailing lists
  + periodicals
 * bibliography


 _



Introduction

   This is FAQ that I am interested in further editing and improving. The
   topic of conspiracies has become more prevalent in the American psyche
   and I've not found a free compilation or overview of classic
   references. I don't consider myself an expert in this field, just a
   hardworking and curious layman, and I would appreciate any insight
   that others can offer. I know that a FAQ is a very iterative process
   in which early versions are only marginal and incomplete, whereas
   later versions can become extremely comprehensive with the help of
   reader input.

   With your help, I can really improve the quality of this document. I
   am committing to keeping it free for unlimited distribution at all
   times. If you know some good references for any of these sections, in
   the interest of educating humanity, please send them to me.

   Note: I am not going to try to collect every reference that exists. In
   particular I prefer to collect references to other authoritative
   collections that contain references themselves. I intend to keep a
   short list of web sites in this FAQ, which I don't intend to be
   exhaustive either, but which points to the premier sites. If you have
   one of the most comprehensive sites on the net, I would like to hear
   about your pointer, however, if you are working with subtopics, please
   submit your URL to the site maintainers of the more "master" sites.

   I will generally not attempt to resolve the truth or falsity of
   various issues, but simply remark on the contents of "conspiracy
   theory literature" or CTL and let the reader 

[CTRL] SNET: ACC ACCUSES WACKENHUT OF HARASSMENT

1999-09-19 Thread ASu2431426

 -Caveat Lector-

Its about time someone sued Wackenhut... they show up in the strangest
places...PROMIS software, Danny Casolaro case,  cocaine in Colombia,
electronic interception, obstruction of Congress yet nobody sues them.!.

Looks like a civilian group operating with Government authority.   A law suit
would clear the air.   this is not a nickel and dime outfit.  And if they
counter sue Shulman and ACC we can find out if Shulman is either a top rated
PR man trying to make an extra buck or a public spirited businessman.

This Wackenhut electronic interception charge has been around for several
years..  Bout time someone went into court.

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and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright
frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor effects
spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers;
be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
nazi's need not apply.

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[CTRL] Judge Orders I-59 Vote Counted for DC Medical Marijuana

1999-09-19 Thread David Crockett Williams

 -Caveat Lector-

Judge Orders:

ORDERED that defendant's motion [2], for an order authorizing at it to
announce and certify the results of the vote on Initiative 59 in accordance
with D.C. Code § 1-285 (1981) be and hereby is

GRANTED. Defendant District of Columbia Board of Elections and Ethics is
hereby authorized to tabulate, announce and verify the results of the
November 3, 1998 election on Initiative S9.

From: Peace through Reason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MedMJ News [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Med MJ News--Text version of Judge's Order
Date: Sunday, September 19, 1999 7:53 AM

Judge's Order, text version.

Thomas

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
 FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA

WAYNE TURNER, et al.,  Civil Action No. 98-2634 (RWR)
 Plaintiffs,
 Plaintiffs,

  FILED
   v.Sept 17 1999
   NANCY MAYER WHITTINGTON,
CLERK
D.C. BOARD OF ELECTIONS AND ETHICS, U.S. DISTRICT COURT
   Defendant

  and

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
   Intervenor.

 MEMORANDUM OPINION

Plaintiffs, five registered District of Columbia voters and a committee of
such voters, and the defendant, the District or Columbia Board of Elections
and Ethics ("the Board"), seek a declaratory judgment that Sec. 171 of
Congress's 1998 District of Columbia Appropriations Act (the "Barr
Amendment") is unconstitutional if it bars the Board from counting,
releasing, and certifying the results of the November 3, l998 D. C.
referendum known as initiative 59. The Unified States intervenor defending
the constitutionality of the Barr Amendment, claiming that it bars
certifying but not counting and announcing the election results. The Court
held a consolidated hearing on the merits of plaintiffs' motion for a
preliminary injunction and on



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the parties' cross motions for summary judgment. Because the Court holds
that the Barr Amendment does not preclude the Board from counting,
announcing or certifying the results of the referendum on Initiative 59,
the Board may release and certify them and the Court need not reach the
constitutional question.

Factual Background

On September 17, 1998, the Board certified a ballot initiative entitled
Initiative 59 as proper for placement on the ballot for the November 1998
District of Columbia elections after the measure garnered the requisite
support through signatures. (Def.'s Mem. Summ. J., Attmts. Ex. 2, Miller
Decl. at 4 ("Miller Decl.".) Initiative 59, known as the Medical Marijuana
Initiative, was designed, in part, to allow chronically ill individuals to
use marijuana without violating criminal provisions of the D.C. Code.
(Def.'s Mem. Supp. Summ. J. at 2-3 ("Def.'s Mem.").) Attmts.' Initiative 59
states in part:

Sec. 1 All seriously ill individuals have the right to obtain and use
marijuana for medical purposes when a licensed physician has found the use
of marijuana to be medically necessary. . . Sec. 2 Medical patients who
use, and their primary caregivers who obtain for such patients, marijuana
for medical purposes upon the recommendation of a licensed physician do
no[t] violate the District of Columbia Uniform Controlled Substances Act of
1981

(Def.'s Mem., Attmts., Ex. 3.)



-3-

On October 21, 1998, Congress enacted the Barr Amendment as part of the
District of Columbia Appropriations Act. Omnibus Consolidated
Appropriations Bill of 1998, Pub. L. No. 105-277, 112 Stat. 2681-150 (1998)
The Barr Amendment provides that:

None of the funds contained in [the District of Columbia Appropriations
Act] may be used to conduct any ballot initiative which seeks to legalize
or otherwise reduce penalties associated with the possession, use, or
distribution of any schedule I subs substance under the Controlled
Substances Act . . . or any tetrahydrocannabinols derivative.

Id, Because Initiative 59 attempts to reduce penalties for some use and
possession of marijuana, it falls under the purview of the Barr Amendment.

On November 3, 1998, residents of the District of Columbia voted on
Initiative 59 since it had been printed on the ballots prior to passage of
the Barr Amendment. (Def.'s Mem. at 8.) The Board has not released the
results of the vote on initiative 59, however, for fear of violating the
Barr Amendment.

Interpreting the Barr Amendment

The text of the Barr Amendment prevents the Board from using funds to
"conduct any ballot initiative" regarding any measure designed to lesser
penalties for drug possession, use, or distribution. The question, then)
is, whether counting,



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releasing, and certifying the results of the election is part of conducting
a ballot initiative.

The plaintiffs argue in their motion for summary judgment that the
Amendment should apply to the activity that takes place only up to and
including election day but not any of the duties required of the Board
after 

[CTRL] US trained butchers of Timor

1999-09-19 Thread Lucio Benedetto

 -Caveat Lector-

US trained butchers of Timor
http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/indonesia/Story/0,2763,83783,00.html
Exclusive: Washington trained death squads in secret while Britain has spent
£1m helping Indonesian army

Ed Vulliamy in New York and Antony Barnett
Sunday September 19, 1999


Indonesian military forces linked to the carnage in East Timor were trained
in the United States under a covert programme sponsored by the Clinton
Administration which continued until last year.

The Observer can also disclose that the Government has spent about £1
million in training more than 50 members of the Indonesian military in
Britain since it came to power. Human rights campaigners claim a number of
these are likely to have links with those complicit in the attrocities.

The US programme, codenamed 'Iron Balance', was hidden from legislators and
the public when Congress curbed the official schooling of Indonesia's army
after a massacre in 1991. Principal among the units that continued to be
trained was the Kopassus Ð an elite force with a bloody history Ð which was
more rigorously trained by the US than any other Indonesian unit, according
to Pentagon documents passed to The Observer last week. Kopassus was built
up with American expertise despite US awareness of its role in the genocide
of about 200,000 people in the years after the invasion of East Timor in
1975, and in a string of massacres and disappearances since the bloodbath.
Amnesty International describes Kopassus as 'responsible for some of the
worst human rights violations in Indonesia's history'.

The Pentagon documents Ð obtained by the US-based East Timor Action Network
and Illinois congressman Lane Evans Ð detail every exercise in the covert
training programme, conducted under a Pentagon project called JCET (Joint
Combined Education and Training). They show the training was in military
expertise that could only be used internally against civilians, such as
urban guerrilla warfare, surveillance, counter-intelligence, sniper
marksmanship and 'psychological operations'.

Specific commanders trained under the US programme have been tied to the
current violence and to some of the worst massacres of the past 20 years,
including the slaughter at Kraras in 1983 and at Santa Cruz in 1991. The
US-trained commanders include the son-in-law of the late dictator General
Suharto, Prabowo Subianto, and his mentor, General Kiki Syahnakri Ð the man
appointed last week by the so-called 'reform' government as commissioner for
martial law in East Timor.

The secret programme unveiled in the document became the focus for military
training when above-board aid was curtailed by Congress after the Santa Cruz
massacre. Congress had stepped in after up to 270 peaceful protesters Ð many
of them schoolchildren Ð were murdered by Kopassus shock troops as they
paraded through Dili.

American sponsorship of the Indonesian regime began as a matter of Cold War
ideology, in the wake of defeat in Vietnam. The left-wing movement in East
Timor was feared by Jakarta and seen by the US as an echo of those in
southern Africa and of Salvador Allende's government in Chile. Jakarta's
harassment of the Timor government and the invasion of 1975 were duly
encouraged by the United States.

The training of Indonesia's officer corps peaked during the mid-Eighties. In
1990 a former official at the US Embassy in Jakarta cabled the State
Department to say US sponsorship had been 'a big help to the (Indonesian)
army. They probably killed a lot of people and I probably have a lot of
blood on my hands'.

But the horror of Santa Cruz in 1991, when trucks were seen dumping bodies
in the sea, was too much. The US decided that the training, while still
available, should be paid for by the recipient nation Ð in other words, it
would no longer be military aid. The covert programme then became the main
means of training Indonesia's military Ð still at the American taxpayers'
expense.

In an undated prospectus, the Pentagon says the prime mission was to 'to
develop, organise, equip, train, advise and direct indigenous militaries'.
The scale was small, to offer concentrated 'significant special training'
which would create 'self-sufficient small units'. In 1996, for instance, 10
exercises involved 376 US personnel and 838 Indonesians or 'loyal' Timorese.

Britain also made a significant contribution to Indonesia's military
training. The Observer has established that, since May 1997, 24 senior
members of Indonesia's forces have been trained in UK military colleges.
This included training in running military units efficiently and how to used
technical equipment like guided missiles. In addition, 29 Indonesian
officers have studied at non-military establishments.

Revelations of the extent to which Labour has used taxpayers' money to aid
the Indonesian military has angered many MPs, who claim it makes a mockery
of Foreign Secretary Robin Cook's 'ethical foreign policy'. In the last four
years of the Tory 

[CTRL] FW: 3 NEW MYSTERIOUS DEATHS!!!**WACO**

1999-09-19 Thread Bard

Folks, Make sure you open the Attachment.
Bard

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 9:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 3 NEW MYSTERIOUS DEATHS!!!


Subject: 9/11/99 -- 3 of 4 Dead Deltas Were at Waco


AS THREATENED CIA AGENT TALKS, SUBPOENAS FLY AND
DELTA FORCE PERSONNEL PRESENT AT WACO SUDDENLY DIE

MYSTERIOUS DELTA FORCE DEATHS--FALLING OUT OF HELICOPTERS,
DROWNING, GUNSHOTS?

ALEX JONES:  "THESE ARE NOT BEING REPORTED IN THE NATIONAL
MEDIA AS TRAINING ACCIDENTS NORMALLY WOULD BE, AND INSIDE
SOURCES LINK THESE MEN TO THE SLAUGHTER AT WACO"

FAYETTVILLE ONLINE (Article -- See Below)
http://www.infowars.com/training_deaths.html

Radio talk show host Alex Jones asserted today that
he has confirmed that at least 3 of the 4 Delta Force members
killed in training accidents  on 2 successive days last week
were at Waco during the siege  that killed 86 Branch Davidians.

The 3 dead Delta Force soldiers confirmed to have been at Waco
were Lt. Col. Timothy A. Boyles, Sgt. Eric Ellingson,
and Master Sgt. Gaetano Cutino. Cutino was the brother of Judge
Fran Gull of Fort Wayne, Indiana.

The presence at Waco of the 4th dead Delta Force member, Sgt.
Jamey Dimase, 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning,
Ga., has yet to be confirmed or denied.

Alex Jones can be heard daily on shortwave radio at 9.400 MHz from
1pm 2pm. Jones also has a web page at http://www.inforwars.com.

David Feustel

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mindspring.com/~dfeustel

ARTICLE:
FAYETTVILLE ONLINE
Saturday, September 11, 1999

Third soldier dies while training
Army officials order safety review

By J.S. Newton --Staff writer

The U.S. Army Special Operations Command has had another fatal training
accident involving a Fort Bragg soldier. It is the third training death in
as
many days for Fort Bragg-based special operations forces.

‘‘It’s all in the hands of God what happens to us every day,’’ said Carol
Darby,
a spokeswoman for USASOC.

Following the incidents, the command ordered a thorough worldwide review
of all of its safety precautions.

Two soldiers from the 1st Battalion of the 3rd Special Forces Group died
Tuesday night when they were swept away during a water training exercise
in the Savannah River, Ga.

On Friday, officials identified 40-year-old Lt. Col. Timothy A. Boyles as
the
second victim from the river accident. He was commander of the 1st
Battalion.

The identity of the first victim, Sgt. Eric Ellingson, was revealed
Thursday.

The most recent fatality occurred Thursday night when 36-year-old Master
Sgt. Gaetano Cutino died on a helicopter insertion exercise near Sicily
Drop Zone on Fort Bragg.

He apparently died from injuries sustained while ‘‘exiting from an MH-6
‘‘Little Bird’’ helicopter,’’ military officials said. Cutino was assigned
to
the U.S. Army Special Operations Command.

Fran Gull, a Superior Court judge from Fort Wayne, Ind., was Cutino’s
sister.

She said her brother was a John Wayne fanatic and former high school
football player. But what he loved most was his family and his job.

‘‘He loved soldiering,’’ she said. ‘‘He was a wonderful father to his three
kids,
and he was a wonderful husband to his wife.’’

Adding to an already tragic week for USASOC, military officials announced
Friday that an Army Ranger had accidentally died in Germany from a gunshot
wound to the chest.

Sgt. Jamey Dimase, who was 26, of the 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment,
Fort Benning, Ga. was participating in marksmanship training at the time of
his death, military officials said.

Local military officials said there is no relationship between the rash of
accidents. ‘‘It’s just a coincidence,’’ said Jimmy Dean, a spokesman
for the Special Forces Association in Fayetteville. ‘‘There might not be
another (death) in five years.’’

Dean said he and a group of retired Green Berets had been discussing
the river death Friday morning. He said he and other retired Green Berets
all have drawn the same conclusions.

‘‘It’s just one of those things,’’ he said. ‘‘When you conduct training, you
are going to have accidents.’’

He said special operations work requires training that is realistic.

‘‘Safety is a big part,’’ he added. ‘‘But it still happens.’’

Nevertheless, the commander of the United States Army Special Operations
Command, Lt. Gen. William Tangney, ordered a comprehensive safety review
‘‘at all levels’’ under his command, Darby said.

Darby said Tangney wants to assure all soldiers are reminded of safeguard
requirements and that commanders emphasize risk management during
planning and execution of their training.

Tangney’s jurisdiction stretches across more than 50 areas throughout
the world. It is not known how long the review would take, she said.

Darby said accidents like these hit the tightly knit Special Operations
community hard.

‘‘It’s like losing a member of their family,’’ she said.The commander,
Boyles
began his job as 

[CTRL] FW: [apfn] FROM: DAVID KORESH, ATTY IN FACT GARY HUNT

1999-09-19 Thread Bard

An Important Read.
Bard

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Re: [CTRL] Military police - JTF-6

1999-09-19 Thread Kris Millegan

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A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:554493"Re: Military  police/A
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Date: Mon, 13 September 1999 02:48 AM EDT
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The JTF-6 you inquired about is probably the Joint Special Operations
Command (JSOC) detachment JTF-6. My memory seems to be that JTF-6 was
comprised of an East coast SEAL team - I think that was the deal,
regardless, JTF-6 does fall under JSOC command and is tasked with
real-world counter-terrorist (CT) and other high-speed hooha stuff.

shan


Rickymcn wrote:

 Has anyone heard anything about Joint Task Force # 6?

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[CTRL] George Bush and the Palmemurder

1999-09-19 Thread Kris Millegan

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Could it have been George Bush who ordered the assassination Olof Palme?


There is an ongoing discussion in Sweden about the role of George Bush and
the ”parallell government” that Bush led during the time of the assasination
of Olof Palme in 1986. This discussion deals mainly with the Bush led secret
arms- and drugs business that is more known as the Iran/Contras-affair, and
the use of mercenaries in this business.

More recently (June) a report was published by the ”Palme Commission” that
also, to some degree, takes up this question. This report is interesting
because of two aspects in it. First: that it exonerates the American
presidential candidate Lyndon LaRouche from the accusation that he, and his
Swedish cothinkers in the EAP (European Labour party) murdered Olof Palme,
as some journalists, The Bush-crowd and, The Soviet intelligence at the time
claimed. Second: because it shows that the Swedish police has had as one of
its hypothesis that George Bush and the Bush fraction of the CIA, could have
assassinated palme.

In June the Palme Commision gave out a 1000 page document that is an
investigation of the Police-investigation that investigates the murder of
Olof Palme. This report is in it self a cover up, because major aspects of
what happened at the time when Palme was assassinated is not described, but
however, there are some aspects which are of interest.

As I already mentioned the first deals with the slander campaign against
Lyndon LaRouche. The report quotes the Police Investigation of the
assassination which in a secret document concluded that ”there is nothing
concrete
in the substance which would indicate that the EAP as a party or
that a group inside the EAP would be involved with the the
murder. Further it is said that according to what is known,
neither the EAP nor its sister parties around in the world have
never unsed violence directed against politicians or other pubic
persons.”

This is important because Lyndon LaRouche was unjustly imprisoned for five
years due to a political witchhunt that had as its origin a WACO-styled
attack on the offices of his associates and the newspaper affiliated with
him, New Solidarity, in Leesburg, Virginia. This WACO-styled attack was
ordered by George Bush and one of the official reasons to why they made this
raid was to get information about if LaRouche had been behind the
assassination of Palme. Bush and Oliver North, two of the persons who
decided about the attack, off course knew about laRouches innocence. For
them the attack was more a way to get rid of a annoying threath to their
political operations.

The second thing I mentioned was that the report shows that the Police did
some research (however too little) about the Bush/CIA track. Already in 1986
the question was raised if not the fact that Olof Palme from spring 1985
refused to cooperate with Bush and CIA in their dirty deals in the Middle
East could have been one of the reasons behind the murder. The hypothesis
was then that Palme stopped the Swedish secret arms export to Iran at a time
when USA exported arms to Iran. This is off course something that Bush would
not have liked! It is also revealed that the Police has looked into the P2
telegram issue (that an operative of the Italian P2-lodge contacted a member
of Bush staff in 1986 about the fact that Palme was to be be assassinated,
because he was a troublemaker).

The Police has also investigated the European explosives cartel that around
1985 and 1986 smuggled arms and explosives to Iran and Iraq in cooperation
with Bush and Ollie North in the USA. The frightening thing is that Bush and
North, as well as the NATO affiliated European cartel worked closely with
KGB and STASI that helped them to smuggle weapons to the Middle East and to
the Contras in Nicaragua.

The Police has also investigated the South African aparthaid connection of
the Bush-gang!

It is interesting in this context that Lyndon LaRouche already the day after
the murder pointed out the secret intelligence networks around what later
was to be revealed as the Iran/Contras, and STASI/KGB as the most likely
assassins, in his ”Operation Edgar Allen Poe”. Could this memorandum have
been the reason to why George Bush initiated his vicious attacks against
Lyndon LaRouche and later imprisoned him? Did LaRouche know too much about
the nature of his dirty business???

What was the role of george Bush Sr behind the murder of Olof Palme and the
imprisonment of Lyndon LaRouche and, by the way,  what do George Bush jr
know about this???

http://www.nysol.se/english


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[CTRL] Jim Keith and Kansan1225

1999-09-19 Thread Kris Millegan

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A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:553332"Jim Keith and Kansan1225/A
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Subject: Jim Keith and Kansan1225
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kansan1225)
Date: Wed, 15 September 1999 11:21 PM EDT
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  A few days ago I received the following e-mail:

In a message dated 8/27/99 10:54:18 PM Central Daylight Time, JPKMIB
writes:

 Subj:Re: your writing
 Date:  8/27/99 10:54:18 PM Central Daylight Time
 From:  JPKMIB
 To:Kansan1225

 Read your write-up of the Polly Klaas masonic connections in
alt.conspiracy and found it very interesting.  I'm currently working on the
next volume in the Secret and Suppressed book series, Secret and
Suppressed II, and I would be interested in seeing submissions of your
writing for possible publication.
 Looking forward to hearing from you,

 Jim Keith 

  Mr. Keith, a well-known writer in the conspiracy theory field, was
referring to my post "Princess Diana, Jack the Ripper, and Polly Klaas",
attached below.  I agreed to give him permission to re-publish it along with
some more articles of mine.

  Unfortunately, it is now reported that Jim Keith died suddenly of an
"accident" last week, on Tuesday, 9/7/99.  He was working on the Princess
Diana "accident" case and his last articles mentioned that Diana was
pregnant at the time of her death.

  There is the following "coincidence":  Diana died on 8/31/1997, one
day before the New Moon of Virgo for that year.  Jim Keith died on
9/7/1999, two days before the New Moon of Virgo for this year.

  I have decided to put together the results of my investigations on the
clandestine Luciferian Masonic (CLuM) Conspiracy in a volume called
"The New Atlantis Conspiracy", available for $19.95.  It can be ordered by
writing to:

  Kansan1225
  P.O. Box 840395
  Houston, TX 77284

  I am also offering my previous work, "Contemporary Indications of a
Conspiracy", volumes 1  2, for the first time on the Internet, for $39.95.

  Thank you for your interest and best regards,

  Kansan1225


  Copyright 1999:  Kansan1225

Subject: Princess Diana, Jack the Ripper, and Polly Klaas
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Kansan1225)
Date: Thu, 26 August 1999 07:59 AM EDT
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  The Full Moon of Virgo will occur this evening.  For clandestine
Luciferian Masons (CLuMs) the zodiac sign of Virgo (the virgin) is
important for women in general, in their states of young girl, mother, and
old woman.  In many cases human sacrifices of women are carried out by
CLuMs during this zodiac sign.

  This was the case with the death of Princess Diana who was killed by
CLuMs on August 31, 1997, just before the New Moon of Virgo (9/1/97).
CLuM human sacrifices are also sometimes synchronized with the New
Moon, or the Full Moon, according to the sacrificial timetable of the
Temple of Solomon, the central object of Masonic mythology.

  As far as the French police investigation itself is concerned, the fact
that they have not publicly identified the white Fiat that collided with
Diana's car shows that they are unable or unwilling to conduct a thorough
inquiry, no matter how many "millions of dollars" they have spent.

  Diana's death occurred 109 years to the day after the first murder
attributed to the CLuM serial killer Jack the Ripper.  The number 109
contains the digits of 19, a reminder of the 19-year Metonic cycle of the
moon, another regulator of CLuM outrages.  The Ripper's first victim was
Mary Ann (Polly) Nichols, killed on August 31, 1888.

  It is a little known fact, but the name "Polly" is a variant of the name
"Mary" (see the note at the end of this article for a reference on this).
The
combinations "Mary Ann", or "Marianne", or "Pollyanna",
etc., are common because St. Anne was the mother of the Blessed Virgin
Mary:  "Mary Ann" simply means "Mary, daughter of Anne".

  As CLuM luck would have it, on October 1, 1993, a young girl named
Polly Klaas was abducted from her house in Petaluma, CA, and killed.  It is
a little known fact, but Polly's full name was Polly Hannah Klaas.  "Klaas",
of course, is the Dutch version of "Nicholas".  Therefore, Jack the Ripper's
first victim, Mary Ann (Polly) Nichols, had the same name form as Polly
Hannah Klaas, or "Mary Ann Nicholas".  Moreover, as CLuM luck would
have it, Polly Klaas' mother is named Eve Nichol.

  Petaluma, CA, is located in Sonoma County, just north of San
Francisco Bay.  "SONoMA" is a Baconian cypher for "Mason".  "San
Francisco Bay" is an anagram for "Say Francis Bacon", a reminder of the
very important CLuM Sir Francis Bacon, the author of "The New Atlantis"
and one of the real authors of the Shakespearean works.  Another
landmark near Petaluma is the Jack London State Historical Park, a
reminder of JACK the Ripper, the CLuM serial killer active in LONDON.

  Polly Hannah Klaas' murder happened on 

[CTRL] FW: [apfn] Fwd: [contrailsightings] Website seized?

1999-09-19 Thread Bard

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Subject:   [contrailsightings] Website seized?
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I visited the groundzero website on September 19, 1999, and had an
unpleasant surprise.  A message came up stating that the website had been
seized by the United States Central Intelligence Community.  If that wasn't
enough, the message also stated that my IP number had been recorded and
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[CTRL] Lee and King Alglos

1999-09-19 Thread earthman

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Latest from Orbit
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M'LADY ROSE
Musings of a star gazer


A few nights ago, unable to sleep , I decided to wander out under the night
sky and gaze at the stars.I was quite taken with a star I had never noticed
before. Its size dwarfed its brothers and sisters in the sky, and it seemed
to winking at me...So I went in the house determined to find this night
visitors name. As i scanned the star charts my effort was finally rewarded .
From this point on the story this celestrial light seemed to be trying to
tell me fell smoothly and effortlessly into place


YOU DECIDE



As i stared at the star chart , and read its name "Algols", it tweaked my
memory of something i had read in one of Nostradamus's Quatrains,
Angolmois

In 1999 and seven months From the sky will descend a great terrifying King
Who will resuscitate the great King ANGOLMOIS. Before and after, Mars reigns
happily.

Though not an exact spelling I figured i follow my intuiton and move
on..."In 1999 and seven months ", now the seventh month to us is July but
look at this.

September -- the seventh month

Middle English septembre

Latin September

Latin septem "seven" + -ber (adj. suffix)

Latin september mensis "seventh month"


So if you accept it, the first part of the riddle is solved. On to the next
part of the riddle...


"From the sky will descend a great terrifying King "


As i continued my research on the Star Algol, I came across this interesting
"coincidence".. it seems that Comet Lee will be crossing the celestrial
heavens in the third week of September the seventh month..just north
of the constellation Perseus , where the mighty King Algol resides






So could Comet Lee be the terrifying king to descend from the sky and awaken
, or resuscitate the great King angolmois or Algol

Here is the most recent picture of Comet Lee and you can see to its
southeast or actually west ,as everything is reversed in photos , The King
Algol





So is there to be some great celestrial happening in the third week of
September as Comet Lee traverses the heavens and approaches the great star
Algol.???.We will have to wait and see as the heavens seem to protect
their secrets quite well but maybe this is the event Nostradamus was trying
to clue us into.. YOU DECIDE



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[CTRL] FW: [freedomfight] 1861 *a must*

1999-09-19 Thread Bard

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Again, this is information going through the APFN List that I think is
really worth reading!  I know this, but have never seen it explained in
such a manner.  Now, Walter, I lost your message to me about the
Captain, but I have seen that info before.  It matters not.  When you
begin trying to reform what has come out of this, you only empower it;
you can not change it, for to change it you must begin again, and
totally replace that which is in place in Washington, DC.  Do you
understand that?  You must replace it, and that does not mean "voting"
under the 15th Amendment!

What is in place in Washington, DC, is a criminal enterprise; nothing
more.  A very organized criminal enterprise.  David G.


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Abraham Lincoln's responsibility was to preserve and enforce the Law of
the
United States.  Abraham Lincoln was the Chief Magistrate.

Preservation of the Union?

As President of the United States, Abraham Lincoln had a duty to abide
by
the limitations imposed by the Constitution of the United States.  This
he
did not do.

His actions within Maryland in the late spring of 1861 were not within
the
constituted duties of the Presidency.  The President of the United
States
is not empowered to invade the States party to the Constitution.

So what union was Abraham Lincoln preserving?

The more perfect union constituted for the United States of America
dissolved with the collapse of the Congress of the United States
Assembled
in December of 1861.

With the termination of the Lincoln Administration in April of 1861, the

Rump Congress of the United States embarked upon reconstructing the
governments within the States of America.  Not to preserve the Union,
but
to empower the Social Democracy.

This Reconstruction is and has been ongoing since the first
reconstruction
Act passed over the Chief Magistrate's veto in March of 1867.

The Military Occupant reconstructed the state Republics, and empowered
its
civil administrator this State with the constitutional codification of
the
Reconstruction Acts.

This reconstruction of the United States of America was codified in
April
of 1868 with the adoption of the 14th Amendment under the barrel of a
Gun.
This Amendment empowered the Congress of the United States (Section 5)
to
dictate its polity from the shores of the Potomac, subverted the state
Republics and empowered the Social Democracy.

The United States operates as a commercial agency.  In order to
participate
within its jurisdiction, an American must step into commerce.

On July 13th, 1861, the Rump Congress of the United States empowered the

Chief Magistrate to license people in commerce within the states in
insurrection and obstruction of the laws of the United States.  This
licensing authority was further enhanced on October 6th, 1917, and March

9th, 1933.

The Union of state Republics is the empowerment of the people under the
Laws of Nature's God.  The current polity ensconced on the shores of the

Potomac is a commercial agency empowered under the barrel of the gun
indenturing Americans with its publicly chartered privatized monetized
debt
service center.

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[CTRL] FW: [freedomfight] Freedom

1999-09-19 Thread Bard

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FYI, Bard
Visit:  http://www.infowars.com/

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Subject: [freedomfight] Freedom


This, below, is as good as it gets, and, it establishes the basis of
what I have been saying.  Their IS NO SOLUTION WITHIN WASHINGTON, DC,
POSSIBLE.  You are not only wasting your time, you are empowering that
which is defeating you.

Their is one other item which needs to be added to this; I have been
asked time and again, how can I be so sure that Christianity is "the
True" Law, or religion, or whatever the question of the moment happens
to be.  Christianity is the only system of Law, His Law, which exists or
can exist, which establishes a King (the authority to write Law), and
from there all authority passes to the People, and from there, to their
agents.  All all "systems" first establish a hierarchy, then, in
decending order, to the very bottom, where are found the people.  You
will always find that this is why Christianity is so hated by those who
fancy themselves in charge.  Someday, you may also find the difference
in law and Law; where law is written by men, who then hire thugs to
enforce THEIR law.  Law, by Him, is self-enforcing.  If you doubt this,
see what your ignoring of His Law has done to you.  David G.

First let me say I think that the Royal house in England established
its subjecting power in America. It has been doing that before and
since the 'revolution'. It has to do it not by its Law but By God's LAW.

Consent, exchange, contract...

Their law kicks in when we consent. If our consent and actions bind us,
according to God's LAW, we cannot get out with out their consent or we
brake God's LAW.

Give to Caesar what is Caesar's.

Other wise we are simply held by pirates and to fight to free yourself
is not revolution..

Note:
"Those captured by pirates and robbers remain free."
Because
 "Things captured by pirates and robbers do not change ownership."
They must bind us according to God's LAW.

England was closing the door to freedom for 500 years. When William the
Conquerer defeated Harold his cousin at Hastings in 10 66 he obtained
no more authority than Harold had originally, except for those free
noblemen who were foolish enough to fight with Harold and lost. Many
free noblemen of England did not support Harold in his trial by combat
with his cousin and they kept their lands which were not entered into
William's survey of Land and the Doomsday Book.

But then America was discovered. It was the land that Brendan from
Ireland had sought and discovered and claimed for the Lord in 400AD. He
had called it, "The land promised to the Saints by God."

Who was going to own this land?

If Jesus was a King and Charles was a King both men could claim the
Land in America.

Please. Stay on point with me. Don't let theology sweep you away, Hang
in there.

When my GGGgradfather came here [early 1600's]  he claimed land, so did
the king's men, so did lots of men.

Yes! The United States is in cohorts with the British kings, who are
not British.

Note that those kings of the British are the prince elector of the Holy
Roman Empire. See treaties.

The Holy Roman Empire recognized Jesus as a King.
Their official Procurator said it three times and posted it for  the
World to see.
The Kings of England recognize this proclamation and have published it
over and over in the King James Version of the Bible.

THAT IS THE MESSAGE OF THE CROSS.

WE WERE SPIRITUALLY AND PHYSICALLY REDEEMED.

We have to physically and spiritually follow the Christ, The King, of a
Christian Republic that has survived in the heart of the Roman Empire
Since the days that  Jesus walked among us.

There is more to this America vs British Colony/US but this should be
enough to Chew.

Bellow is a post I sent in a response. to a British  Colony Vs Free
Country debate on another list.
Trust be there is more going on here than the king's school system
wants you to know about concerning the colonies at kings

*
British  Colony Vs Free Country
He said He said

WOAH!!
Let me add my too sense

(Lyle)
Your allusions here and below are that the King came to this country
and conquered it. Obviously not true. The King never set foot on
this continent, nor did he conquer it. He wrote Charters describing
what he claimed to own. Pieces of paper. You make further allusions
(illusions) below.

(insert Gregory's two cents)
Good point.
It had taken almost 500 year for the crowns  bind up and the land of
Britain and enter it in the Doomsday Book when they discovered a whole
new world.
The foot thing is good.
Possession is, as it were, the position of the foot.
Possessio est quasi pedis positio. 5 Coke, 42.

But actually he did his foot over to America. The king sent his
representatives with 

[CTRL] Clinton's War Against Evil

1999-09-19 Thread Das GOAT

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Clinton Blames Guns for Violence

By LAWRENCE L. KNUTSON
.c The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) - Saying that the repeated mass murders of innocent Americans
has been the most painful thing he has had to face in office, President
Clinton on Saturday said the easy availability of guns bears as much or more
responsibility as does human evil.

Clinton and Vice President Al Gore, addressing the annual dinner of the
Congressional Black Caucus, said that some have attempted to minimize the
role of firearms in tragedies such as the murders Wednesday night of seven
people in a church in Fort Worth, Texas and the suicide of the alleged
gunman.

``Of course something horrible happened to that man's heart when he walked
into that church in Texas. But we cannot use that as an excuse,'' Clinton
said.

He asserted that the solution is a sharing of responsibility and a refusal to
duck facts, not a search for scapegoats or an attempt to blame all gun
murders simply on human evil.

``The NRA (National Rifle Association) and that crowd has got to stop using
arguments like this to avoid facing our shared responsibility,'' the
president said.

He said tragedies such as this year's spate of school shootings and the
bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City has made the search for
answers imperative.

``I think the killing of innocent people en masse in America has been the
most painful thing that (the vice president ) and I and our families have had
to endure in discharging our duties for America,'' Clinton said.

He called on the country '' to make this election year about assuming
responsibility, not ducking it.''

In their back-to-back speeches, Gore raised the issue first.

``Too many hearts have been broken,'' he said, adding that some have tried to
explain the killings ``by saying a sudden wave of evil has swept the county
.''

``My religious tradition says evil has always been with us and we need to
meet evil with good,'' the vice president said.

He said it is clear there is a pressing national need to get guns out of the
hands of people who should not have them.

``We have to act and not just talk,'' Gore said. ``We want to move our feet
and lift our hands and work together.''

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[CTRL] Fwd: Jon-Benet Paranoia Mag

1999-09-19 Thread Kris Millegan





 Hey, just wanted to let you know that I've got an embyronic Paranoia web
site up, including a link to Konformist.com.
Also, I've been meaning to ask you for permission to excerpt a piece you
wrote a while back about JonBenet and ritual sacrifice. If we can use it, I
would of course put your website address and any other info at the end. It
would go in either the December or April issue of Paranoia. Thanks.
Al Hidell
Editor, PARANOIA: The Conspiracy Reader
http://members.aol.com/alhidell/paranoia/ 

Thanks for the link.  A likewise will be up on my front page with my one week
delayed update of the site.

Of course you can excerpt the JonBenet piece.  It will be a main piece of the
first Konformist book, "A Pack of Lies!!!: A Konformist Krap Kollection,"
which should be out in 2000.

Two recent updates on JonBenet:

1) The recent revelation that JonBenet appears to have been molested on
multiple occassions is old news to those who read The Konformist, though now
this claim is solidified.  For those who want to pin this crime on Patsy
Ramsey (or, even worse, the other Ramsey child) must account for the evidence
of regular sexual penetration by an adult male penis.  Hmm, wonder who it
could have belonged to?

2) Stephen Singular, in his first book since his investigation of the Simpson
case and LAPD deceit ("Legacy of Deception"), has written about the Jon-Benet
case with "Presumed Guilty".  Despite the title, he is not an apologist for
the Ramsey parents.  Indeed, he heard convincing evidence that Ramsey's
company Access Graphics (the Lockheed shell corporation) was involved in the
underground child pornography market.  There is a reason he didn't
investigate it further though he suspected it would be true: if he himself
downloaded kiddie porn (which would have been neccesary to prove the case),
he  could have been arrested for possessing illegal materials.  Singular did
inform the Boulder authorities of the evidence, and they did not investigate
it.  Further, he requested that he be given their authority to investigate it
further (so as to be shielded from prosecution.)  They refused.  Therefore,
one of the key allegations of suspicion that I raised in the Jon-Benet Ramsey
article was fully known by investigators, and given to them by a
well-respected source.  Despite this, they did nothing.

Robert Sterling




[CTRL] Fw: British American Project - CFR/RIIA Study Group

1999-09-19 Thread Linda Minor

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Subject: British American Project - CFR/RIIA Study Group


Ever hear of the British American Project?  The next British American
Project meeting will be held in Harrogate, at the Majestic Hotel, 13-17
November.

In 1997 Lobster Magazine,  a British  journal of intelligence,
parapolitics, and state research published an article about  the British
American Project.The article identifies the groups administering the
project as:

 The School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS) of the Johns Hopkins
University,
 Washington DC, would administer the American side. The Royal Institute of
International Affairs
at Chatham House, London, would serve a similar function in Britain.

The School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS) is a Council on Foreign
Relations think-tank and spook training school,  [see Foundations of War
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/2807/foundation.html ]. The SAIS has a
branch in Red China that has a greater influence on Chinese policy then the
Chinese do. A partial list of SAIS faculty who belong to the CFR has been
added to the end of the Lobster magazine article.

The Royal Institute of International Affairs is England's CFR sister
organization.

Serendipitously, the Council on Foreign Relations and Royal Institute of
International Affairs were formally established at another Majestic Hotel
in Paris on March 19, 1919, by a group of Rhodes's secret society members
who attended the Paris Peace Conference as  diplomats, members of the
British Secret Service, or  members of the first U.S. central intelligence
agency the INQUIRY. Edward Mandell House, close personal advisor to
President Woodrow Wilson, and the first U.S. National Security Advisor,
hosted the meeting.

Propaganda, is the effort to alter the picture to which men respond, to
substitute one social pattern for another. Propaganda is used to create
false reality worlds using sleight of mind. Psycho-political operations are
propaganda campaigns. Strategic psycho-political operations focus
propaganda at powerful individuals, or small groups of people capable of
influencing public opinion or the government of a particular country.
Tactical psycho-political operations focus propaganda at the masses by
interference in specific events, their comments, and their appeals through
mass communication media ( i.e. newspapers, radio, television, textbooks,
educational material, art, entertainment, etc. ). Both forms of propaganda
are used to manipulate public opinion to attain foreign policy goals in a
given period. If the operations are designed to conceal both the operation
and the sponsor  the operation is clandestine. If the operations are
designed to conceal only the sponsor the operation is covert.

The CFR/RIIA has become so successful at scripting, directing, and
implementing psycho-political operations that we are now living in an age
of rationalized propaganda backed by a powerful press and technical media
that consciously manipulates symbols and myths in a calculated manner to
suit CFR/RIIA goals. High international tensions are whipped up with
astonishing rapidity at the dictate of the controlling groups. Tensions
meant to maximize profits of CFR/RIIA controlled medicine, munitions,
media, food, and banking industries which profit most during periods of
unrest and war. Illusions and delusions are deliberately imposed on large
masses on an international scale to conceal real social conflicts of
greater significance.

The Secret Society of Cecil Rhodes used "discussion-groups"  to generate
material  used in propaganda campaigns for shaping national policy and
influencing public opinion. The Council on Foreign Relations,  Royal
Institute of International Affairs, and other secret-society branch
organizations use "discussion-groups," and a more formalized program known
as "study-groups" to this day. "Study-groups" are organized to investigate
an important national policy issue.  A designated expert prepares a draft
statement and presents it to a group of fellow experts who often hold
widely divergent views.  The issue is discussed thoroughly, sometimes at
several successive meetings, and  the discussion recorded by a research
secretary. A digest of the discussion and a position paper with a written
analysis and policy conclusions credited to a single author is produced.
Material generated is used  to shape national policy and influence public
opinion.

The British American Project is nothing more than a Council on Foreign
Relations/Royal Institute of Internal Affairs, sponsored study-group, meant
to generate material for creating covert strategic, and tactical
psycho-political operations for influencing public opinion to allow
CFR/RIIA industries to maximize their profits at the expense of the public
at large, and to further the CFR/RIIA goal of forming one world 

[CTRL] JFK Jr. and the 13TH LINE

1999-09-19 Thread Steve Wingate

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JFK Jr. and the 13TH LINE

People who are aware of the Luciferian Masonic Conspiracy instituted to
help bring about the Empire of the Antichrist, a.k.a. the New World Order,
know that geographic latitude and longitude play an important role in
Conspiratorial productions. For example, JFK's ritual sacrifice was
performed in Dallas, because that city is close to the N. 33 parallel: the
33rd degree is the highest degree of the Scottish Rite of Masonry.

In a similar fashion, JFK, Jr., was killed and committed to the waters of the
Atlantic close to the intersection of the N. 41 parallel and W. 71 meridian;
summing up, 4 + 1 + 7 + 1 = 13, the most Masonically correct number. This
intersection, southwest of Martha's Vineyard, is also close to the small
island called No Mans Land. "No Mans" is a Baconian cypher for "Mason",
i.e., Mason Land.

JFK, Jr., and his public wife, Carolyn Bessette, were married on
Cumberland Island, off the coast of Georgia. This island is close to the
intersection of the N. 31 parallel and the W. 81 meridian; again, 3 + 1 + 8 +
1 = 13. Another important Conspiratorial spot nearby is Jekyll Island, GA. It
was there that clandestine Luciferian Masonic (CLuM) Conspirators met to
organize the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organization (RICO) known
as the Federal Reserve System.

These two geographical intersections are part of a line of similar
intersections along the eastern seaboard, whose numbers add up to 13.
From south to north, these intersections are:

*** N. 31 parallel and W. 81 meridian, just mentioned. Off the coast of
Georgia, close to the Florida border.

*** N. 32 parallel and W. 80 meridian; 3 + 2 + 8 + 0 = 13. Off the coast of
South Carolina, close to Charleston. Charleston is the seat of the Mother
Council of the Masonic Scottish Rite for the whole world. The names of the
Carolinas and Charleston are reminders of King Charles I of England,
another CLuM sacrificial victim, decapitated by CLuM Brother Oliver
Cromwell in 1649.

Luciferian Masons are fascinated by decapitations and skulls: their
predecessors, the Knights Templars, worshipped the Baphomet, a
mysterious skull. The Yale-based Masonic-type secret society Skull and
Bones keeps the skulls of Mexican and Native American revolutionaries in
the Tomb, its on-campus headquarters in New Haven, CT

Similarly, the Masonic-type German secret society Thule initiated Adolf
Hitler in its ranks, who later organized the SS. The SS followed Masonic-
type secret rituals and their emblem was the Skull and Bones, just like
CLuM Brother George W. Bush's fraternity.

Farther north there are more "13" intersections:

*** N. 40 parallel and W. 72 meridian, off the south coast of Long Island,
NY, not too far from where TWA 800 was deep-sixed by the CLuMs on July
17, 1996. Again, 4 + 0 + 7 + 2 = 13.

*** N. 41 parallel and W. 71 meridian, southwest of Martha's Vineyard, not
far from where JFK, Jr.'s plane was deep-sixed by the CLuMs on July 16,
1999. Again, 4 + 1 + 7 + 1 = 13. The ashes of all three sacrificial victims
were deep-sixed there, too, in a big hurry.

*** N. 42 parallel and W. 70 meridian, close to the sodomite resort of
Provincetown, MA, on Cape Cod. CLuMs are great advocates of sodomy,
since the Antichrist himself is of a dubious nature. The androgynous nature
of the Antichrist is symbolized by the two interlocking triangles of the occult
hexagram known as the Star of David, or Seal of Solomon, a prominent
Masonic emblem. Again, 4 + 2 + 7 + 0 = 13.

By connecting these intersections on a map, one draws a line stretching
from the Atlantic coastal border of Florida and Georgia to the coastal
border of Maine with the Canadian province of New Brunswick. This "13"
line, therefore, encompasses the 13 original colonies and, later, states of
New Atlantis, a.k.a. the U.S.A. (Back then, Maine was part of the territory of
the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.) What a CLuM "coincidence"!

Examining this "13" line, one sees that it passes near Kitty Hawk, NC, the
site of the Wright brothers' first flight. Later on, in 1932, the world- famous
aviator, Col. Charles A. Lindbergh, searched for his kidnapped baby son
along this "13" line southwest of Martha's Vineyard, close to No Mans Land
(Mason Land). As CLuM luck would have it, the Lindbergh family's original
name back in Sweden was Mansson, another Baconian cypher for "No
Mans". There is good reason to believe that the real grandfather of Col.
Lindbergh was the Crown Prince of Sweden and later King Charles XV.
Members of the Swedish royal family are prominent patrons of Masonry
and the royal family itself is associated with the so-called Luciferian
bloodline connected to the "Priory of Zion".

Therefore, it seems that the Lindbergh baby, a likely Luciferian descendant,
was offered as a "thanksgiving" sacrifice to Lucifer/Satan for the aviation
successes of the Wright brothers and his father, Charley Mansson, a.k.a.
Col. Charles A. Lindbergh. As CLuM luck would have it, 

[CTRL] FW: [theseries] RON PAUL[BEFORE YOU SAY BOLOGNA]

1999-09-19 Thread Fransy

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-Original Message-
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Subject: [theseries] RON PAUL[BEFORE YOU SAY BOLOGNA]


Before we say we can't do anything read this letter, and then email the man,
talk with him, Educate him further, we are running out of time "WE" CAN DO
something "NOW". But saying that what is, is and can't be changed is WRONG.
"WE" ARE THE "SPIRIT", THE WAY, THE MIGHT






SIGHTINGS

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Letter From Congressman
Ron Paul - Important
Congressman Ron Paul
837 W. Plantation
Clute, TX 77531
1 800 RON PAUL
Originally written September 17, 1997

9-17-99



We spoke with Michael Sullivan, Congressman Paul's Press Secretary, on
9-17-99. He asked us to correct the letterhead address and the original
date of the letter, and explained that it is a two year old campaign
letter that someone has transcribed and circulated on the net. We have
made and noted those changes per his request.


Dear Friend:

The other day, I made a huge "gaffe" on national TV: I told the truth about
the crimes of the U.S. government. As you can imagine, the ceiling fell in,
and a couple of walls too.

Congressmen are supposed to support the government, I was told. Oh, it's
okay
to criticize around the edges, but there are certain subjects a member of
the
House of Representatives is not supposed to bring up. But I touched the real
"third-rail" of American politics, and the sparks sure flew.

I was interviewed on C-SPAN's morning "Washington Journal," and I used the
opportunity, as I do all such media appearances, to point out how many of
our
liberties have been stolen by the federal government. We must take them
back.

The Constitution, after all, has a VERY limited role for Washington, D.C. If
we stuck to the Constitution as written, we would have: no federal meddling
in our schools; no Federal Reserve; no U.S. membership in the UN; no gun
control; and no foreign aid. We would have no welfare for big corporations,
or the "poor"; no American troops in 100 foreign countries; no NAFTA, GATT,
or "fast-track"; no arrogant federal judges usurping states rights; no
attacks on private property; and no income tax. We could get rid of most of
the cabinet departments, most of the agencies, and most of the budget. The
government would be small, frugal, and limited.

That system is called liberty. It's what the Founding Fathers gave us.

Under liberty, we built the greatest, freest, most prosperous, most decent
country on earth. It's no coincidence that the monstrous growth of the
federal government has been accompanied by a sickening decline in living
standards and moral standards.

The feds want us to be hamsters on a treadmill -- working hard, all day
long,
to pay high taxes, but otherwise entirely docile and controlled. The huge,
expensive, and out-of-control leviathan that we call the federal government
wants to run every single aspect of our lives.

Well, I'm sorry, but that's not America. It's not what the Founders gave us.
It's not the country you believe in. It's not the country I believe in.

So, on that TV interview, I emphasized not only the attacks on our property,
but also the decline of our civil liberties, at the hands of the federal
police. There are not supposed to be ANY federal police, according to the
Constitution.

Then I really went over the line. I talked about the Waco massacre.Bill
Clinton and Janet Reno claim those 81 church members, including 19 children,
burned down their own church and killed themselves, and good riddance. So
they put the few survivors on trial, and threw them in prison for 40 years.

We're not supposed to remember that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and
Firearms -- talk about an unconstitutional agency -- rather than arrest
David
Koresh on his regular morning jog, called in the TV stations for a big
publicity bonanza, and sent a swat team in black masks and black uniforms to
break down his front door, guns blazing. They also sent in a helicopter
gunship, to shoot at the roof of a church full of innocents.

The Branch Davidians resisted, and after a heartless siege of almost two
months, and after cutting off food, water, and electricity, and playing
horrible rock and roll through huge speakers 24 hours a day, the feds sent
in
the tanks to crush the walls of the church, and inject poisonous CS gas.

Now, CS gas is banned under the Paris Convention on Chemical Warfare. The
U.S. could not use it in a war. But it could and did use it against American
civilians.

After the tanks did their work on the church, the place burst into flame,
and
all 81 people -- men, women, children, and babies--were incinerated in a
screaming horror.

Did some feds set the fire? Did the flammable CS gas ignite, since without
electricity, the parishioners were using lanterns? Did a tank knock over a
lantern, striking one of the bales of hay 

[CTRL] 3 of 4 Delta Force soldiers at WACO were killed last week / Vince Foster

1999-09-19 Thread Dave

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3 of the 4 Delta Force soldiers known to be involved at "WACO" were killed
last week, in a period of two days.
in separate "accidents" ...
What are the odds?

These latest Clinton-related deaths appear to tie in to Foster's.

Vince Foster's office was looted PRIOR to "official" investigation into it's
contents.
Those contents might have included a presidential order legally required for
the
U.S. Army's Delta Force to have been deployed against civilian targets.
(among a wealth of other evidence incriminating or embarrassing to the
Clintons,
The White House is under the tightest imaginable security, with video
cameras at every entrance, and armed guards with logs to sign-in and out
EVERYONE who passes their checkpoints within the whitehouse as well as at
it's entrance/exits.
Several hours after he was last seen inside the White House, Vincent Foster
was found dead in Fort Marcy Park, in a Virginia suburb just outside
Washington D.C.
There is NO RECORD of Vince Foster leaving the Whitehouse.

see:
http://www.accessone.com/~rivero/POLITICS/FOSTER_COVERUP/foster.html
The Looting of Foster's office
While the U.S. Park Police (a unit not equipped for a proper homicide
investigation) studied the body, Foster's office at the White House was
being looted. Secret Service agent Henry O' Neill watched as Hillary
Clinton's chief of staff, Margaret Williams, carried boxes of papers out of
Vincent Foster's office before the Park Police showed up to seal it. Amazing
when you consider that the official identification of Vincent Foster's body
by Craig Livingstone did not take place until 10PM! Speaking of Craig
Livingstone, another Secret Serviceman saw him remove items from Vincent
Foster's office in violation of the official seal. Witnesses also saw
Bernard Nussbaum in Foster's office as well. Three witnesses noted that
Patsy Thomason, director of the White House's Office of Administration, was
desperate to find the combination to Vincent Foster's safe. Ms. Thomason
finally opened the safe, apparently with the help of a special "MIG"
technical team signed into the White House in the late hours. Two envelopes
reported to be in the safe by Foster's secretary Deborah Gorham, addressed
to Janet Reno and to William Kennedy III, were never seen again. When asked
the next day regarding rumors of the safe opening, Mack McLarty told
reporters Foster's office did not even have a safe, a claim immediately shot
down by former occupants of that office.

The next day, when the Park Police arrived for the official search of
Vincent Foster's office, they were shocked to learn that Nussbaum, Thomason
and Williams had entered the office. Conflicts channeled through Janet
Reno's Department of Justice resulted in the Park Police merely sitting
outside Foster's office while Bernard Nussbaum continued his own search of
Foster's office. During this search, he opened and upended Vincent Foster's
briefcase, showing it to be empty. Three days later, it would be claimed
that this same briefcase was where the torn up suicide note was discovered.

The boxes of documents removed from Foster's office by Hillary Clinton's
chief of staff, Margaret Williams, was taken to the private residence area
of the White House! Eventually, only 54 pages emerged.

One set of billing records, under subpoena for two years, and thought to
have originated in Foster's office, turned up unexpectedly in the private
quarters of the White House, with Hillary's fingerprints on them!
http://www.accessone.com/~rivero/POLITICS/FOSTER_COVERUP/hillprints.html

So, who ordered the office looting?

Bill Clinton was unavailable, being on camera with Larry King. But Hillary
Clinton, who had only the day before diverted her planned return to
Washington D.C. to Little Rock, was on the phone from Little Rock to someone
at the White House in the moments before the looting took place.

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


Subject: 9/11/99 -- 3 of 4 Dead Deltas Were at Waco

AS THREATENED CIA AGENT TALKS, SUBPOENAS FLY AND
DELTA FORCE PERSONNEL PRESENT AT WACO SUDDENLY DIE

MYSTERIOUS DELTA FORCE DEATHS--FALLING OUT OF HELICOPTERS,
DROWNING, GUNSHOTS?

ALEX JONES:  "THESE ARE NOT BEING REPORTED IN THE NATIONAL
MEDIA AS TRAINING ACCIDENTS NORMALLY WOULD BE, AND INSIDE
SOURCES LINK THESE MEN TO THE SLAUGHTER AT WACO"

FAYETTVILLE ONLINE (Article -- See Below)
http://www.infowars.com/training_deaths.html

Radio talk show host Alex Jones asserted today that
he has confirmed that at least 3 of the 4 Delta Force members
killed in training accidents  on 2 successive days last week
were at Waco during the siege  that killed 86 Branch Davidians.

The 3 dead Delta Force soldiers confirmed to have been at Waco
were Lt. Col. Timothy A. Boyles, Sgt. Eric Ellingson,
and Master Sgt. Gaetano Cutino. Cutino was the brother of Judge
Fran Gull of Fort Wayne, Indiana.

The presence at Waco of the 4th dead Delta Force member, Sgt.
Jamey Dimase, 

[CTRL] Vince Foster murder: Federal Court unseals 511-page document charging obstruction of justice

1999-09-19 Thread Dave
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Foster death 
report sees professional 'hit' Court unseals 
511-page document charging obstruction of justice 
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  Foster 
  death report sees professional 'hit' Court 
  unseals 511-page document charging obstruction of justice 
  
  By Sarah 
  Foster© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com A 
  three-judge federal panel yesterday unsealed a 511-page report, submitted 
  by Kenneth Starr grand jury witness Patrick Knowlton in June, which -- in 
  the view of its authors -- presents incontrovertible evidence of 
  conspiracy and cover-up by the Justice Department and the Office of the 
  Independent Counsel in connection with their investigations into Vincent 
  Foster's death and counters the official conclusion that the top White 
  House official "committed suicide by gunshot in Fort Marcy Park on July 
  20, 1993." 
  At the same time, the panel -- headed by David B. Sentelle, with 
  Richard D. Cudahy and Peter T. Fay -- denied Knowlton's request that this 
  report be attached as an amendment to the Interim Report (the "Starr 
  Report") on the investigation of Foster's death, which was released Oct. 
  10, 1997. There has been no final report. 
  The just-released document is certain to fuel the ongoing controversy 
  surrounding the administration's scenario of Foster's death. It is a 
  point-by-point analysis and refutation of the 114-page, double-spaced, 
  Starr Report, overpowering it in both size and substance. 
  Knowlton's report is, in fact, an expansion of an earlier 20-page 
  filing, also by Knowlton -- comprised of a nine-page letter and 11 pages 
  of exhibits -- which had been accepted by the same panel as an attachment 
  to the Starr Report. 
  Knowlton filed that report in September 1997, a month before Starr's 
  Report was released. The statute authorizing creation of the Office of 
  Independent Counsel allows persons "named in the report" to request 
  permission to attach comments to reports. Over strenuous objections by the 
  independent counsel, the Special Division of the U.S. Court of Appeals -- 
  the same panel of judges which authored yesterday's ruling -- granted that 
  permission and ordered the Office of the Independent Counsel (OIC) to 
  include Knowlton's 20 pages in the appendix to the Starr Report. 
  John Clarke, Knowlton's attorney -- who has worked tirelessly on the 
  case -- discussed the significance of today's ruling and the report with 
  WorldNetDaily, portions of which were provided by fax. 
  "The report has been under seal," he said. "That means it had to be 
  kept secret until a decision was made by the court. Even the fact that we 
  filed it was kept secret. 
  "We asked them (the court) for a couple of things," Clarke continued. 
  "We asked them to lift the seal as soon as they made their decision, which 
  they did. And we also asked them to substitute it (the report) for our 
  20-page filing. They didn't do that; they did not order it attached to Ken 
  Starr's report." 
  But not because they rejected the evidence, Clarke is quick to note. 
  "What they said was they didn't have jurisdiction to grant relief," he 
  explained. "They didn't rule against us on the merits of what we were 
  asking; they just said that they didn't have jurisdiction under the law to 
  give this relief." 
  Knowlton charges Starr's investigation simply added "another layer to 
  the 6-year-old ongoing Justice Department cover-up" -- a cover-up that 
  began the night of the death and continued through subsequent 
  investigations including an initial 16-day examination by the FBI and two 
  probes by the two independent counsels -- a reference not only to Starr's 
  work, but to that of Special Counsel Robert Fiske, whose report was issued 
  June 30, 1994. 
  Knowlton's two reports are built on charges developed in a civil suit 
  he filed Oct. 25, 1996, charging FBI agents, U.S. Park Police employees 
  and others with obstruction of justice, witness intimidation, and personal 
  harassment. An amended complaint was filed last October adding defendants 
  and additional information. 
  The civil rights suit was dismissed Sept. 9. Today Knowlton was 
  expected to file a motion to reconsider that ruling while he prepares to 
  appeal the ruling of John Garrett Penn to the 

Re: [CTRL] JFK Jr. and the 13TH LINE

1999-09-19 Thread ASu2431426

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The SS ( Schutzstaffel) was organized by Reich Leader Heinrich Himmler, this
organized the Keppler Circle later known as Himmlers Circle of Friends

The Circle had about 40 members including people from Standard Oil and ITT.
List of some members in WALL STREET AND THE RISE OF HITLERi  (Antony Sutton)
Chapter Nine   the nazi inner circle.

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[CTRL] ReligioTerrorism In Russia

1999-09-19 Thread William Shannon

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Muslim warns of Moscow war
Mark Franchetti Moscow

WITH a bloody wave of terrorist bombings adding immeasurably to President
Boris Yeltsin's political woes, a Muslim rebel leader has for the first time
confirmed a link between one of the explosions in Moscow and Islamic
separatists fighting the Russian army in Dagestan.
Shamil Basayev, a veteran of the separatist war in Chechnya, has said
comrades in arms from neighbouring Dagestan planted the first bomb that
exploded in a shopping mall behind Red Square on August 31, killing one
person and injuring 40.

Since then nearly 300 people have died in four other bombings that have
provoked fear and panic in the capital and plunged the country into the most
menacing turmoil it has faced in the chaotic decade since communism's demise.

On Friday, Moscow police named a Chechen, Achimes Gochiyayev, 29, as the head
of the group responsible for the bombings. He is said to have rented space in
the two blocks of flats bombed.

To victims of the carnage it may no longer matter who was to blame. "I cannot
describe the horror of it," said a Russian rescue worker fighting back tears
at the scene of a blast on Monday in which 116 people, including several
children, were killed in their sleep.

To Kremlin leaders struggling for survival in the run-up to elections,
however, the arrest of suspects has become as much of a political imperative
as winning the war in Dagestan, where a rebel army led by Chechen guerrillas
is fighting the Russian army.

"These explosions will go on," Basayev is quoted as saying in Prague's Lidove
Noviny, "because [Dagestani] people who had their relatives, mothers and
children killed for nothing will kill out of revenge."

His chilling warning coincided with reports from Dagestan that 1,500 rebels
were massing for another attack on Russian forces this weekend, contradicting
Moscow's much-trumpeted assurances that the "terrorists" were all but
defeated. Yesterday the Russian air force pounded rebel positions inside
Chechnya. An unconfirmed report said Russian motorised units had crossed into
the breakaway republic, the first such incursion into Chechnya since 1996.

The crisis, which threatens to embroil Russia's generals in a campaign as
punishing as the ill-fated one in Chechnya in 1995, has revived widespread
doubts about Yeltsin's fitness to govern, prompting rumours that he may soon
resign - or offer a job to Alexander Lebed, the hulking former paratrooper
turned politician whose mediation in the previous conflict is widely credited
with having ended the bloodshed there.

With parliamentary elections scheduled for December and the presidential
election in June, Yuri Luzhkov, the ambitious mayor of Moscow, and Vladimir
Putin, the latest in a long line of Russian prime ministers as Moscow has
reeled from one crisis to another, have staked their political futures on
solving the crisis. Yet in a city renowned for its love of conspiracy
theories, they have struggled to reassure the public. Most Russians believe
that the terror campaign is linked to Russia's long-running problems in the
Caucasus region, the people of which are routinely blamed for the crime and
chaos in Moscow. The three prime suspects named by Russian police are all of
Muslim extraction.

With Basayev's guerrillas - some of them linked to former Afghan rebels who
humiliated the Soviet Red Army into retreating from Kabul - seeking to merge
the Russian republics of Dagestan and neighbouring Chechnya into an
independent Islamic state, Russian security forces had warned that rebels
might bring their war to Moscow. Yet when the bombing began, it was wildly
rumoured that Russian security forces might somehow be to blame. According to
one unlikely theory, a power-crazed Yeltsin was eager for any pretext to
impose a state of emergency and cancel elections.

Basayev, a bearded Chechen warlord who is co-ordinating rebel operations in
Dagestan, may have put such speculation to rest. He has long been a thorn in
the side of the Kremlin, inspiring terror among the Russian troops routed in
Chechnya. He famously humiliated Moscow by taking 1,200 hostages in southern
Russia at the height of the Chechen war. Now he is fighting in Dagestan.

Alongside him is Khattab, an Arab militant famed for a devastating mountain
ambush he executed against a Russian military convoy in Chechnya in 1996. He
takes no prisoners: more than 100 soldiers were killed, and video tapes of
the attack were later sold in the markets of Grozny, the Chechen capital.

Known as the "Black Arab", Khattab is widely suspected of having links with
Osama Bin Laden, the Saudi dissident financier blamed for last year's
bombings of American embassies in Africa. Russian intelligence sources
suspect the hand of Bin Laden in the Dagestani rebel campaign and believe he
may have helped to fund secret terrorist training camps in Chechnya.

Khattab has denied responsibility for the blasts. But Basayev seemed eager to
implicate 

[CTRL] A call to arms for serious Americans

1999-09-19 Thread Ronald L. Wilson.

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It's high time to stop fooling around and get organized!A
HREF="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_btl/19990917_xcbtl_a_call_to_.shtml
"Click here: A call to arms/A

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[CTRL] TIme Present, Time Past

1999-09-19 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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I've been cannning tomatoes.  It's nice to have them during the winter
months, but it's not very stimulating--just a lot of tasks over and over.
Anyway, I've been listening to books on tape while I peeled, chopped, etc.,
and one of them was "Time Present, Time Past" a memoir by Bill Bradley.
Apparently there really is an old fashioned. real Democrat out there.  I'm
going to be watching this guy very carefully, but if he really believes what
he wrote about in this book, I think he would be the kind of president this
country could use.  Maybe I've been hoodwinked, but I swear I think this guy
really gives a damn.  Prudy.

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Re: [CTRL] Environmental groups shuns Gore, endorses Bradley

1999-09-19 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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 Gore has for the past seven years been known as the White House point
 man for environmental issues, a performance the activist group called
 disappointing.

 "Friends of the Earth PAC contends that Gore's record on the
 environment - from his weakening of ozone layer protections to his
 failure to protect forests here and abroad - is a big disappointment,"
 the statement said.

 Ironically, Republicans often decry Gore as being an "out-of-touch
 liberal" in his environmental thinking, sometimes quoting from his
 1992 book "Earth in the Balance" as fodder for mocking the vice
 president's support for renewable fuels and an international treaty
 for limiting carbon emissions. 

Which shows you just what the Republicans think about any environmental
thinking.  It's true that Gore and Clinton have been far from the kind of
champions of planet protection that we need if we are going to have any
quality of life at all.  Dubya owes too much money to too many super rich
Corporate types all ready.  Bradley isn't a "new Democrat" for which we can
be grateful.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] 3 of 4 Delta Force soldiers at WACO were killed last week / Vince Foster

1999-09-19 Thread Dan S

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 3 of the 4 Delta Force soldiers known to be involved at "WACO" were killed
 last week, in a period of two days.
 in separate "accidents" ...
 What are the odds?

We do not know that yet. The source from which this information emanates
(Alex Jones) cites "inside sources." It may very well be true, or it may not
be true. Regardless as to which, until this aspect of the story develops
further (if possible,) the information will remain totally useless to anyone
other than Alex Jones and his supposed source.

Dan S
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[CTRL] [Fwd: P.R.Sarkar's Law of Social Cycles 1/5]

1999-09-19 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Subject: P.R.Sarkar's Law of Social Cycles   1/5
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 00:20:39 -0100
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  The following are encapsulations of the important points ( as I see them )
of P.R.Sarkar's - Law of Social Cycles. I have never read Sarkar directly.
I'm not sure that he is available in English. What I know, I know through the
writings of Dr. Ravi Batra the economist.

  Having come from the left, and having always kept a wary eye on the doings
of Capitalists and Militarists, I immediatly reached a state of sympathetic
resonance with Ravi Batra's description of Sarkar's explanation of historic
cycles. See what you think. --Joshua2

THE FOUR SOCIAL CLASSES
  Most social phenomena are related to human nature.Sarkar argues that even
though most people have common goals and ambitions, the methods of achieving
their objectives may differ from person to person, depending on inner
qualities of the individual. Most of us seek living comforts and social
prestige. But some try to attain them by developing intllectual skills, some
by physical skills, and some by accumulating wealth. Finally, some people
have little ambition in life, and they form a class by themselves Thus,
society is basically composed of four types of people, each endowed with a
different frame of mind.

  People have common objectives, but their modus operandi differs. Some
persons, born with superior bodily strength, excel in physical skills
requiring stamina, courage and vigor. Such people are usually employed in
occupations involving physical risks. Sarkar calls them persons of warrior
mentality. In his view, soldiers, police, firefighters, athletes, skilled
blue collar workers, and the like belong to the class of warriors in the
sense that all these occupations require physical skills. Thus, anyone who
tries to solve his problems with the help of might and muscle can be said to
have a warrior turn of mind.

 There is another type of person who lacks the physical energy of the warrior
but is endowed with a relatively superior intellect. Being so endowed, h/s
tries to develop mental skills to do well in society. To Sarkar, everyone who
tries to solve their problems with their brain rather than brawn is an
itellectual. His use of the term is much broader than generally conceived. To
him, not just philosophers, writers, and scholars, but lawyers, physicians,
poets, engineers, scientists, white collar workers, and priests are
intellectuals because they all utilize their minds rather than muscle power
to attain their goals.

  There is another type of person who, according to Sarkar, strives to
accumulate wealth to achieve what is generally regarded as the good life.
Such people are also bright, but their minds run mainly after money. They are
smarter than the warrior type but not as intelligent as the intellectual. Yet
they are usually mor affluent than the other two. Such people are called
acquisitors, because virtually all their propensities are engaged in amassing
wealth. To them, money is all that matters in life. It alone is the key to
success and prosperity. Merchants, bankers, moneylenders, businessmen, and
landlords generally belong to the class of acquisitors. While other classes
seek wealth to enjoy material goods, the acquisitor generally covets money
for its own sake.

  Finally there is the fourth type of person who is altogether different from
the other three. He is the unskilled worker or the physical laborer. He lacks
the vigor of the warrior, the brilliance of the intellectual, and the
accumulating instinct of the acquisitor. He is also lacking in the high
ambition of the other three. His level of education is relatively low, and he
is usually deficient in marketable skills. Because of these handicaps the
unskilled worker is, and has always been exploited by the rest of society. He
does the work deemed dirty by others, and is the poorest among all classes.
Farm workers and unskilled factory workers generally belong to the class of
physical laborers.

  The laboring class is simply composed of people who perform physical labor
by choice, or because they are unable to acquire technical skills.They lack
the ambition, initiative, and drive to succeed in the world; seldom do they
shine in society.

  These then, are the four classes which exist in every society and have
existed since ancient times. Sarkar differs sharply from those who define
classes on ecconomic grounds - on the basis of income and wealth. Sarkar does
not neglect the ecconomic aspect, but to him it is only one component among
many. Class devisions, in his view, persist because of inherent differences
in human nature.

  Thus every civilization, which is what a mature society is, consists of
four classes, each comprising people reflecting the predominance of a certain
type of mind. Although individual behavior might 

[CTRL] [Fwd: P.R.Sarkar's Law of Social Cycles 2/5]

1999-09-19 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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  A society evolves over time in terms of four distinct eras. Sometimes
warriors, sometimes intellectuals, and sometimes acquisitors dominate the
social and political scene. Laborers never hold the reins ( this was Marx's
mistake- J2 ), but at times the ruling class becomes so self-centered and
currupt that a large majority of the people are reduced to poverty. The
general public, engaged mostly in making a living, has then little time left
for the finer aspects of life. Such a time may be called the age of laborers.

  No single group however, can exercise social supremacy forever. What is
more interesting, as well as intriguing, is that the movement of society from
one epoch to another follows a definite pattern. Specifically, in the
development of every civilization, ancient or modern, Oriental or occidental,
the era of laborers is followed by the era warriors,  the era of warriors by
the era of intellectuals, and the era of intellectuals by the era of
acquisitors culminating in a social revolution - this is Sarkar's law of
social cycles.

  Just as human evolution is indisputable, so are social cycles an inevitable
natural phenomenon, where social supremacy shifts from one class to another,
from the collectivity of one type of mind to another. Thus, underneath the
seemingly haphazard change in society lies the invisible but unmistakable
imprint of nature. Social evolution goes hand in hand with human evolution.

THE ERA OF LABORERS
  How do we recognize the era of laborers? The laboring society is one that
suffers from complete lack of guidance, leadership, and authority; one where
the so called leaders become so egocentric and greedy that the majority of
people, following in their footsteps , display a mentality ruled by
instinctive behavior, greed, and total self concern. The era of laborers,
then, is characterized by near anarchy, by a lack of social order. Family
ties are not binding, people scorn higher values and the finer things in
life, morals are extremely loose, crime is rampant, and materialism permeates
society to the core. All laborer societies in ancient times were primitive,
and remained primitive until some warriors emerged and wrested the leadership
into their own hands. However, later laborer eras were actually governed by
acquisitors and can be properly called acquisitor / laborer eras.

  A laborer today is one with low initiative and drive relative to people of
other classes. And for this reason the laboring class is exploited as much
today as in the past. Its toil is still indispensable to the survival of any
society, but ruling classes are taking advantage of it everywhere in the
world.

  The distinctive feature of a laborer society today would be the open
disregard of governmental authority and law by its dominant members ( the
rich and their corporations-J2 ). Thus, government may exist in a
contemporary laborer society, but its rule would not be respected; violent
crime would become rampant, with people living in fear.Today, the weakening
of family bonds would be reflected in the lack of discipline of children and
their disrespect for parental authority, in frequent divorces and marital
violence, and the heartless removal of the elderly from the family. Women had
a lowly status in the distant past; in a contemporary laborer society, such
inferior status would be manifested in a high incidence of prostitution,
pornography, and general exploitation of women by men.

  In short, if these characteristics are prevalent in a society, it is
unmistakably languishing in the laborer era. A close scrutiny of history
reveals that all civilizations  occasionally pass through such periods, when
for example, they are beset by internal fissures or external assaults.
ACTUALLY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EXTINCT AND EXISTING CIVILIZATIONS IS
SIMPLY THAT THE FORMER WERE OVERWHELMED BY THE ILLS OF THE LABORER ERA,
WHEREAS THE LATTER OVERCAME THEM TO RESUME THEIR FORWARD MARCH OF EVOLUTION.
( emphasis is mine-J2 ).

[R.B.]

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[CTRL] [Fwd: P.R.Sarkar's Law of Social Cycles 3/5]

1999-09-19 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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THE ERA OF WARRIORS

  The era of warriors, in terms of political and social structure, is
diametrically opposite to the era of laborers. In the warrior age the army,
headed by a dictator--king, emperor, president-- controls the government as
well as society. Political authority is centralized in the form of an
absolute government, people are highly diciplined, family ties are morally
binding, women are well respected, and so on. Intellectuals and acquisitors
enjoy some respect in the warrior age, although they have little say in
governance. But laborers perform the physical labor for the warrior class,
and in the closing stage of this period, as in that of evey other era, they
are mercilessly exploited. However, at the dawn of the warrior age, the ruler
respects their contributions and treats them with care and compassion.
Laborers, though physically strong, lack the enterprising and adveturous
spirit of the warriors, who use their physical skills, to advance in life, to
excel within thier circle.

  A warrior believes in physical discipline, in firm authority over his
family, and when it comes to power, his family extends to the entire
population living in his domain. A warrior ruler believes in authoritarian
government, in absolute power. That is why the warrior eras have always been
characterized by political centralization, by the divine right of kings, and
by dictators.

  In time the warrior rulers become highly authoritarian, and lose much of
their early benevolence. Their domains are expanded greatly; in the past,
many tribes were unified after lengthy warfare into vast empires headed by
the conqueror. In the holocausts the warriors unleashed, laborers were the
helpless participants. In most warrior societies, the bloody wars of conquest
portend the end of warrior domination and the birth of an era of
intellectuals, who, represented by the priesthood or court ministers, came to
power in every civilization at the end of the warrior age.

THE ERA OF INTELLECTUALS

The despotic governments of the warrior age were fundamentally unstable, for
nothing based on fire and sword can command obedience from the people for
long. For that reason, absolute rulers felt the need for justifications to
support their arbitrary rule. In this they were ably assisted by the
intellectuals, who devised cunning theories to justify the ruler's absolute
authority over his people. Thus were born such concepts as infallibility of
monarchs and the divine right of kings. That is why in the heyday of the
warrior age the intellectuals enjoyed a social status second only to
warriors. And when the authority of absolute rulers declined as a result of
endless wars, the leadership vacuum could be filled only by men of knowledge
who alone commanded enough respect and authority at the time. Everywhere we
find that intellectuals came to power in the aftermath of protracted warfare.
In the West, for instance, the Catholic Church rose to primacy after the fall
of the militaristic Roman Empire.

  The intellectual is endowed with foresight and keenness of mind. In general
an intellectual is cautious and pragmatic; h/she relishes comfort but not at
the cost of physical labor. Consequently, the intellectual attains power only
by defeating the warrior in a battle of wits. Intellectuals rule indirectly--
through their control over the warrior ruler who alone can summon the might
to keep order in society. Whenever and wherever the intellectuls perceived
that the time had come, they devised new dogmas rationalizing their hold over
the people.

  After outwitting the warrior, the intellectuals then set out to inject
baseless fears and prejudices in other classes as well. Once the ruler was
won over, it was just a matter of time before the rest of society yielded to
their self serving doctrines. Thus we find that in nearly every civilization
the people were once caught in the stranglehold of power exercised by
priests, court ministers, or other manipulators surrounding the ruler.

  The structure of government in the era of intellectuals appears to change
little from that prevailing in the warrior age, except that now, because of
the weakness of the ruler, the real authority is exercised by someone behind
the scenes. Yet the intellectuals need the warriors to maintain their control
over the general public, and, therefore, the government is now somewhat
decentralized. The apparent ruler is no longer absolute, nor is the indirect
ruler.

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THE ERA OF ACQUISITORS

Nothing irrational or illogical can endure forever. The web in which the
intellectuals caught the rest of society began to loosen as other classes
slowly saw through their manipulations. Some elements within the intellectual
class itself began to question the priests' intentions. Not only the
elaborate rituals but also the luxury and corruption of the priesthood came
under fire. Among the intellectuals themselves there also occured a good deal
of argument and doctrinal battles, and tose who were thus defeated started
accumulating wealth to compensate for their loss. Similarly, some warriors
also followed that same route. In this way, another mentality evolved in
human beings; another class, one obsessed with money-- the acquisitive mind.

  As a result of all these developments, the power base slowly drifted toward
the wealthy class of acquisitors, and thus began the acquisitive age.

  In all civilizations, the acquisitive class consisted of the rich,
belonging to such diverse groups as landlords, money lenders and merchants.
No longer was it enough to have a keen intellect to attain comforts and
political power. Instead, social prominence rested on one's wealth.

  An acquisitor differs from an intellectual mainly in the way he uses his
intellect. The latter, while interested in comfortable living and material
acquisition, is inclined to intellectual persuits for their own sake; he
likes theorizing about the world. The acquisitor will have none of this; his
intellect is obsessed with amassing, not just enjoying wealth. It is this
mentality that reigns during the acquisitive era. Yet the intellectuals have
an important role to play. They now help the acquisitors stay in power by
doing what they do best-- devising dogmas that, in return for some
compensation, justify the supremacy of the ruling class. This they
accomplish, as always, in a way that lures the gullible-- by concealing thier
support for the acquisitors' primacy behind proclamations of individual
rights, liberty, and justice.In reality, however, such lofty principles are
openly violated. They are usually observed only when it serves the interests
of the affluent. Once the intellectuals give in, warriors and laborers also
perform services for the rich. Thus in an acquisitive age, ALL OTHER CLASSES
SUBMIT TO  THE WEALTHY, who then CONTROL THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION -- land,
factories, capital. Feudalism, and capitalism are two pointed examples of
acquisitive eras in Western civilization.

  Of all forms of government, the one loved by the acquisitor is that in
which the central authority is weakest. In the warrior era this is
impossible. In the intellectuals' era, the central power is not so strong,
but the rigid social codes that the intellectuals contrive to control people
keep a tight leash on would-be acquisitors. That is why one finds that the
acquisitive era, especially as it matured, was accompanied by a high degree
of decentralized political authority in every civilization.  A centralized
system can, if it suits the purpose, force the rich to share their wealth
with the poor, and no one is more aware of this risk than the acquisitors.
Therefore, whenever the wealthy hold the reins, the system of government as
well as the administrative apparatus is decentralized over time ( new
federalism - J2 ).

  One distressing feature of the epoch of the acquisitor is that the
acquisitive mentality eventually infects all sections of society. Attitudes
of the ruling class do not spread so much, do not become so pervasive, in
other eras; but in the age dominated by the wealthy, other groups ultimately
submit to the allure of money. Everything is commercialized as a result--
Music, art, Literature, sports.

  Crime also begins to flourish. A general disregard for the rule of law
developed in all acquisitive periods, plaguing the public in every
civilization. Family ties eroded; noblemen kept harems; divorce and
prostitution increased.

  Prostitution undergoes a remarkable groth in the acquisitive age. Those who
have money to burn are able to corrupt poverty stricken women. And ONCE THE
RULING CLASS CASTS OFF MORAL SCRUPLES, other classes are quick to follow
suit. As a consequence, MORAL DEGENERATION COMES TO PERVADE THE ENTIRE
SOCIETY. Erosion of family ties, excessive stress on individualism, and a
general lack of social discipline spring inevitably from a decentralized
political structure.
  AS TIME PASSES, INCREASING AMOUNTS OF WEALTH END UP IN THE HANDS OF THE
RICH, and the acquisitive era gradually drifts toward the lawlessness
of the laborer age. Eventually things become so wretched that angry warriors
and intellectuals rise in rebellion  ( Indonesia, and soon to be Russia .--J2 )

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1999-09-19 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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THE PROCESS OF SOCIAL CHANGE

Sarkar's law of social cycles states that power and influence shift from one
class to another in accordance with a certain pattern. Questions come to mind
at this point. First, is the change from one era to another smooth and
peaceful, or is it violent and marked by bloodshed? Second, does the rise and
fall of a class occur in perceptible stages within each era?

  A close analysis of civilizations reveals that during any era the dominant
class remains on top for at least two-thirds of that period. for instance, if
an intellectuals' era lasted for three hundred years, one would find that
during that period intellectuals ruled for at least two hundred years and
other groups for at most one hundred years.

  Because of overlapping transitional periods, one may not be able to
recognize a particular epoch of any society. The fact that nothing moves in a
straight line does present difficulties. But a serious student should be able
to see where a society stands at any moment in time. The following points
should be borne in mind in the study of history:

  1) In any society spread over several regions, one should first identify
the most important region. For instance, in Western civilization, which is
spread among many nations, America today is the most influential country,.
Since the U.S. is now passing through the acquisitive / laborer age, which is
marked by high crime, extreme materialism, generally loose morals, and
excessive individualism, we can say that the entire Western world is in this
age. It is possible that some regions of a society may differ from the most
important region. But that is not significant. What counts is the dominant
mentality in the dominant region of a society. For instance, Canada, another
member of Western civilization, is also in the acquisitive age , but it does
not suffer from high crime. ( This was written in 1986- as Canada moves
deeper and faster into the Acquisitive /Laborer era via NAFTA, the crime
aspect is comming to resemble the U.S. on a smaller scale.-- J2 ) However,
the character of Western society as a whole is determined not by the ruling
mentality in Canada, but by that in the United States.

  2) There may be more than one important region in a society at any given
time. Then the class ruling in the majority of such regions determines the
character of that society.

  3) Once dominant regions in a society have been identified , the next step
is to see which group is in power in those regions. Normally one should be
able to pinpoint the class controling the government either directly or
indirectly. That is, one should be able to see if warriors, intellectuals, or
acquisitors command pollitical power. For instance, a centralized government
with absolute authority usually means that either warriors or intellectuals
are at the helm. If it is not clear which group dominates politics, one
should examine the ideology popular in the society. Does it favor a warrior
attitude of adventure and fearlessness, or an intellectual's otherworldliness
and preference for theory over action, or an acquisitor's materialism over
the intellectual or adventurous persuits of mind?

  4) Another way to identify an era in society is to observe what the average
person admires most, which careers earn the greatest status, what the popular
culture glorifies. Does the common man seek a career in the army, or does he
want to become a poet, priest, or statesman, or does he aspire to be a big
landlord, banker, merchant, or businessman? In any society the profession of
the ruling class is the one most sought by the public. In a warrior age, the
average man generally dreams of becomming an army officer. In an era of
intellectuals, he aspires to become an infuential thinker, a theologian, or a
high placed pollitical adviser. In an acquisitive age, he seeks to become a
merchant, businessman, landlord, or financier. In a laborer age, people
usually become lazy, extremely materialistic, and greedy. They want to become
wealthy without working hard.

  Whereas in all phases of civilization, society consists of four broad
classes, AT THE END OF THE ACQUISITIVE ERA ONLY TWO REMAIN:
ACQUISITORS AND LABORERS-- ( Two tiered economies. Haves  have nots. - J2 )
warriors and intellectuals have been reduced to the laborering class by the
extreme concentration of wealth. For a long time in the acquisitive era, the
standard of living remains high and the other classes make their living by
providing services to the affluent. For a while, the entire social order works
to support the dominance of the rich. The concentration of wealth continues
apace, but since material resources available to society are limited, the
acquisitors grow richer and 

[CTRL] Danforth / Waco

1999-09-19 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Boston Globe
The cult of war
By James Carroll, 09/14/99
Former Senator John Danforth, defining the purpose of his Waco
investigation, distinguishes between bad judgments and bad actions. Only
the latter, he says, are his concern. Danforth's wish to limit the scope
of an investigation is welcome, but the distinction seems all too
facile. When bad judgment infects a government as powerful as ours, bad
actions can be inevitable. Waco is one example, and the disaster
unfolding in East Timor is another. A similar failure of judgment in
action underlies them both.
The government's mistake at Waco transcends, but is related to, the
issues of whether ''military style'' flammable tear-gas canisters were
fired at the Branch Davidian compound and whether that fact was covered
up by the FBI. The profound act of bad judgment that led to those
alleged bad actions was the prior decision to militarize government
curtailment of the Koresh commune in the first place. Once a siege was
set with the massing of fatigue-clad agents, on-scene advisers from an
elite military commando unit, buzzing helicopters, armed vehicles, and a
tank, what should have been a civilian law enforcement operation morphed
into an instance of martial law.
The initial purpose behind this show of ''overwhelming force,'' to use
the phrase made famous by Colin Powell, may have been to intimidate
David Koresh, but it was the mind-set of the federal agents that seems
to have been most powerfully influenced by the staging of the siege.
They stopped thinking like civilian law officers, whose purpose is to
maintain order with a minimal use of force, and began thinking like
soldiers who, once in combat, do whatever it takes to win. Once the
martial drumbeat began, negotiators' efforts at persuasion had to seem
untrustworthy to the besieged and all too soft to the besiegers.
Soldiers know, perhaps better than police, that the law of critical mass
applies to the mustering of arms: Once an overwhelming force is fully
deployed, it carries its own momentum to be used, whether wisely or not.
By the time Janet Reno was presented with the decision of whether to
attack the Davidians, the pressures to do so were probably irresistible.
As Colin Powell would be the first to say, don't set a siege unless you
want a battle.
A democratic society necessarily distinguishes between police and
military functions precisely because in conditions of war, regard for
civil liberties is an inevitable first casualty. Another is the
principle of accountability to those outside the body of war makers. The
Waco case, with the FBI behaving like an army at war both during the
siege and in subsequent investigations, seems to have involved both
abuses.
When law enforcement becomes defined as war, as in the war on drugs;
when police departments assemble arsenals appropriate to heavy combat;
when traditional blue uniforms are commonly traded in for fatigues and
jack-boots; when cops become commandos, an ultimate and prior bad
judgment can lead increasingly to the bad action of government violence.
The militarization of law enforcement, from federal to local levels, has
infected this country like a virus. Waco is not the disease but a
symptom.
Even more disastrous has been the militarization of American foreign
policy, and the most egregious example of this has long been Indonesia.
During the Cold War, US policy makers turned a blind eye to the
diabolical character of the Suharto regime and instead armed it to the
teeth for strategic but also economic reasons. For more than a
generation, the American arms industry made a fortune off Suharto. When
his army seized East Timor in 1975, launching a war in which a third of
its population died, we ignored it for the sake of our larger purposes -
stopping Communism and fueling the arms race. But by the time we stopped
Communism, the momentum of militarization continued, both in Jakarta,
where, though Suharto fell, the army did not, and in Washington, where
the Pentagon continued to favor the warlords. ''Pentagon reluctant to
isolate Indonesia'' read a Globe headline a few days ago. Even this
week, Defense Department officials opposed the military aid cutoff
ordered by President Clinton, a belated but proper effort to influence
events in East Timor. Now the ''bad actions'' of Indonesia's criminal
military are on display for all to see, but they flow from a prior act
of American bad judgment, the creation and on-going support of an
Indonesian military whose overwhelming force has been directed only at
domestic opposition or the illegally occupied East Timorese. The monster
at large in East Timor this week was born in the United States.
America must wake up to what it has become. We replaced our Cold War
mortal enemy with ourselves. We are enthralled with the ethos of
weaponry at every level in our culture. We define power through
gunsights - children do it on city streets, but so do the occupants of
paneled rooms in Washington. There 

Re: [CTRL] why no cheeseburgers

1999-09-19 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Nicola Molloy wrote:

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 http://www.audiocentral.com/rshows/6640/archives98.html

 That was interesting Michael.

snip

 hmmm Now this could turn out interesting
 I have heard, from someone who was originally Jewish living in Israel
 that more than half the Orthodox Rabbis living in Israel have recognized
 Jesus as the Messiah and will all announce it together when they think
 it is the right time.
 Nicky

Look, I don't really care what you believe, but this statement above is
so absurd that it only indicates how desperately naive you are. Who ever
gave you that information is lying to you, and you are too ignorant to
recognize it.

If you would have said that half the Reform, or Reconstructionist, or
New Age Rabbis have recognized Jesus as the Messiah, though unlikely,
that MIGHT enter into the realm of possibility. But to make that claim
for orthodox Rabbis in Israel is completely off the wall. This is half
baked Christian propaganda based entirely on wishful thinking. It's like
saying the Dali Lama will be the next Pope. One would have to be totally
ignorant of both religions to think this possible.

Believe what you want, but leave the Jews out of it. Jews have no interest
in Jesus at all. If you Christians are waiting for a group to convert before
Jesus returns, I suggest you try the South Koreans. The Jews never will.

Joshua2

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Re: [CTRL] Clinton's War Against Evil

1999-09-19 Thread The Rooster

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DasGOAT,  good find. This article shows blatantly how they use the
wording of sentences to help the reader make up their mind to agree with
them while he reads. I mean, these guys are nothing more than wolves in
sheep's clothing. And that is all I got to say about this
child-burning-women-raping-witness-murdering-good-for-nothing-draft-dodgi
ng piece of crap. Yes, I believe that about covers it all for me.

Rooster

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Clinton Blames Guns for Violence

By LAWRENCE L. KNUTSON
.c The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) - Saying that the repeated mass murders of innocent
Americans
has been the most painful thing he has had to face in office,
President
Clinton on Saturday said the easy availability of guns bears as much
or more
responsibility as does human evil.

Clinton and Vice President Al Gore, addressing the annual dinner of
the
Congressional Black Caucus, said that some have attempted to minimize
the
role of firearms in tragedies such as the murders Wednesday night of
seven
people in a church in Fort Worth, Texas and the suicide of the
alleged
gunman.

``Of course something horrible happened to that man's heart when he
walked
into that church in Texas. But we cannot use that as an excuse,''
Clinton
said.

He asserted that the solution is a sharing of responsibility and a
refusal to
duck facts, not a search for scapegoats or an attempt to blame all
gun
murders simply on human evil.

``The NRA (National Rifle Association) and that crowd has got to stop
using
arguments like this to avoid facing our shared responsibility,'' the
president said.

He said tragedies such as this year's spate of school shootings and
the
bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City has made the search
for
answers imperative.

``I think the killing of innocent people en masse in America has been
the
most painful thing that (the vice president ) and I and our families
have had
to endure in discharging our duties for America,'' Clinton said.

He called on the country '' to make this election year about assuming
responsibility, not ducking it.''

In their back-to-back speeches, Gore raised the issue first.

``Too many hearts have been broken,'' he said, adding that some have
tried to
explain the killings ``by saying a sudden wave of evil has swept the
county
.''

``My religious tradition says evil has always been with us and we need
to
meet evil with good,'' the vice president said.

He said it is clear there is a pressing national need to get guns out
of the
hands of people who should not have them.

``We have to act and not just talk,'' Gore said. ``We want to move our
feet
and lift our hands and work together.''

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[CTRL] HateWatch News and Updates (fwd)

1999-09-19 Thread William Hugh Tunstall

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HateWatch Updates - http://hatewatch.org

HateWatch News for September 20, 1999

**Suspect allegedly sent letters to hate groups**
One of two brothers charged with murdering a gay couple in Happy Valley
apparently tried to mail letters to white supremacists from a jail only
days after his arrest. Search warrant documents unsealed Friday allege
that Benjamin Matthew Williams, 31, sent letters apparently addressed to a
Fallbrook man who sheriff's deputies called ``a purveyor of white pride
literature'' and to a pastor in America's Promise.
http://www7.mercurycenter.com/premium/local/docs/redding19.htm

**Rightist Party Gains in Austria Vote**
A rightist party led by a man notorious for past praise of the Hitler
regime registered big gains in Sunday's regional voting -- a closely
watched ballot because it fell just two weeks before Austria's
national elections.  Joerg Haider's Freedom Party increased its popularity
by more than a third in voting for parliament in Vorarlberg, Austria's
westernmost province, according to preliminary results after polls closed.
It shot up to more than 27 percent, from 18 percent in the last Vorarlberg
vote five years ago, the results showed.
http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WAPO/19990919/V000626-091999-idx.html

**Texas Gunman Tied to Hate Groups**
The vague profile of Larry Gene Ashbrook, who authorities say killed seven
churchgoers, wounded seven more, then killed himself, developed more
dimensions Friday, even as this city fought for perspective on the havoc
Ashbrook wrought. The man most people first learned of after his Wednesday
rampage at Wedgwood Baptist Church called and wrote to newspapers, feared
imagined persecutors--and may have mingled with Texas hate groups, people
who had met him said.
http://www.latimes.com/excite/990918/t83562.html

**Evangelicals Say Shootings Are Hate Crime**
The murderous rampage this week at a Texas Baptist church exemplified
rising hostility toward Christians in America and abroad--and an
inexplicable reluctance to recognize the shooting as a religious hate
crime, national evangelical leaders said Friday. From Jerry Falwell to Pat
Robertson, James Dobson and D. James Kennedy, conservative Christian
leaders uniformly decried what they called a double standard in treating
Christian victims of violence.
http://www.latimes.com/CNS_DAYS/990918/t83563.html

**Man charged with hate crime in Michigan case**
A white man who claimed he stopped someone from breaking into his car was
charged Friday with a hate crime for allegedly beating a black man,running
him over with his car and dragging him 50 feet.Prosecutors charged Charles
Raab, 30, with felony assault with intent to commit murder and felonious
ethnic intimidation, among other charges. He was jailed without bond.
Willie Jarrett, 35, was hospitalized Friday night in fair condition.
http://www2.nando.net/noframes/story/0,2107,500035065-500056565-500016325-0,00.html

**Klansman convicted of trying to kill lawmen**
A North Carolina Ku Klux Klansman was sentenced Friday to 99 years in
prison for trying to kill a pair of Texas lawmen during a car chase and
gun battle. Jimmy Ray Shelton, 40, who was convicted Thursday of two
counts of attempted capital murder, received the maximum allowed
sentence.
http://www.star-telegram.com/news/doc/1047/1:STATE63/1:STATE63091899.html


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[CTRL] Congress must investigate political audit, says senator

1999-09-19 Thread K

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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/19990917_xex_cong
ress_mus.shtml

On a related note, not mentioned in the article is the fact that the
Chief Medical Examiner of the State of Oklahoma has requested a
protective audit as a pre-emptive measure, as he fears he will be
targeted for an IRS "audit" because of his attempts to get at the
truth of the Kenneth Trentadu murder.  Trentadu was beaten to
death in his cell at the Federal transfer center in OKC. He had
bruises over every inch of his body, the cell was spattered with
blood, but the DOJ maintains he committed suicide.  As usual
when dealing with this bunch of thugs, key evidence has turned up
inexplicably missing.

Kathleen




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Re: [CTRL] radiation tests

1999-09-19 Thread Smart News

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Below please find info. on radiation tests.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

From http://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/1999/0914.html#anchor596920

Top Mid-Columbia stories for Sept. 14, 1999

State, UW apologize for radiation tests
By The Associated Press and the Herald staff

The state and the University of Washington have apologized for any harm that
may have been done to Walla Walla prison inmates whose testicles were
bombarded with radiation in a Cold War experiment.

The apology is part of a settlement of a $5 million class-action lawsuit
filed in 1996.

Details of the settlement are confidential until it is approved by U.S.
District Judge Robert Whaley later this month, lawyers for both sides said in
a joint statement to a Spokane newspaper.

The experiments were conducted in the 1960s on 63 Washington State
Penitentiary inmates by Dr. C. Alvin Paulsen of UW.

Paulsen did the research under an Atomic Energy Commission contract to study
radiation's effects on fertility.

Hanford was one factor in prompting the experiments.

A 1962 Hanford radiation flash led to testicular problems in three workers.
That highlighted that little knowledge existed then on radiation's effects on
sperm generation.

The state Department of Corrections allowed Paulsen to use prisoners for the
experiments until March 1970, when the tests were ordered stopped by the head
of the department's research division.

"The plaintiffs allege that the research involved improper human radiation
experimentation," the statement says. "The University of Washington and the
Department of Corrections deny all liability but nevertheless regret that the
research may have caused the alleged harm and concerns that the prisoners
have expressed in their lawsuit."

The settlement will include cash payments to a number of prisoners or their
estates, depending on how many make valid claims, said lawyer Bradley Keller
of Seattle, who worked on the plaintiffs' case.

Several prisoners, including lead plaintiff Robert White of Spokane, said
they developed severe health problems from the experiments, including
infertility.

The experiments, which included a similar program at the Oregon State
Penitentiary in Salem, were condemned in 1995 by a Clinton administration
review panel.

Of the 63 original participants, some 23 had died by the time the defendants
were ordered in 1997 to release a list of men who were subjects of the
experiments.

Whaley earlier dismissed two Hanford contractors - General Electric Co. and
Battelle - plus the federal government, which paid for and administered the
experiments, from the lawsuit.

General Electric used to be Hanford's lead contractor. And Battelle took over
operating Pacific Northwest Laboratory in 1965 from General Electric -
inheriting a technical support role in those experiments.

Hanford documents from that time indicated Battelle was uncomfortable with
the experiments.

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[CTRL] Journalist Nairn to be Deported, Now in Bali (fwd)

1999-09-19 Thread William Hugh Tunstall

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-- Forwarded message ---
  Sunday, 19 September 1999

  Contact: Amy Goodman, (212) 397-0886
  John M. Miller, (718) 596-7668, (516) 317-6257 (mobile)

  Journalist Nairn to be Deported, Now in Bali

  Journalist Allan Nairn, detained by Indonesia after reporting from East
 Timor, has been flown to Bali. He is
  currently at Bali's international airport and will spend the night in
 Immigration Detention/Quarantine. He has been
  told he will fly to Singapore on Monday morning.

  Monday morning he will be put on Garuda Flight #405 to Jakarta (leaving
 Bali, 9:50 am; arriving Jakarta, 10:30
  am). He will then take Garuda flight #826 (leaving Jakarta 11:45 am;
 arriving Singapore, 2:25 pm).

  Nairn is eager to speak to the press about his experiences on his
 arrival.

  Please note all times listed are Garuda's scheduled flight departures
 and arrivals.
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Re: [CTRL] Larry Patterson Interview 2pm ET FNC

1999-09-19 Thread Bill

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More Cover for the NWO's Boy George...they want him bad
don't they?...Clintons a lame duck, we have nothing to gain
by paying any attention to his role as garbageman
extraordinaire...keep your eye on the ball.  No More Bushit.

Bard wrote:

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 Trooper Rocks New York Media with Tales from Clinton's Crypt

 From an early morning appearance on the Howard Stern Show to a taped
 interview on Fox News Channel twelve hours later, recently retired Arkansas
 State Trooper Larry Patterson took New York by storm on Wednesday, revealing
 new details about his six year stint guarding Arkansas' first family.

 Much of bodyguard Patterson's account is unknown to most Americans, thanks
 to the President's "real" political bodyguards, the nation's mainstream
 press. The trooper says he tried to share some of the information with
 reporters back in 1993, but most weren't interested.

 Even shockmeister Stern and his jaded K-Rock entourage seemed surprised by
 some of what Patterson had to say, as the 32-year law enforcement veteran
 told listeners one startling insider account after another.

 How much did Hillary know about her husband's Arkansas sexcapades? Stern
 wanted to know.

 "When Bill was coming on to some woman," claimed Patterson, "I've heard
 Hillary tell him, 'Bill, zip up your pants. You can't do anything here.'"

 "Wow, wow," replied the incredulous shock jock.

 "He's hornier than me," the king of radio raunch observed, after Patterson
 explained how Clinton would inquire about the security staff's sex life.

 Patterson's interrogation on Clinton's personal peccadillos gave way to an
 exploration of one of the most vexing political questions of the 1990s,
 during the Clinton bodyguard's afternoon appearance on Sean Hannity's WABC
 radio show.

 Why did Ross Perot re-enter the presidential race in the final months of the
 1992 campaign, thereby tipping the election to Bill Clinton?

 The former Arkansas state policeman doesn't claim to know what the Texas
 billionaire's actual motivation was. But he told Hannity that Clinton and
 the Bush-a-phobic Perot chatted by phone some "25 to 30" times in mid-1992,
 an unusual amount of personal contact for two supposed political rivals.

 From WABC radio the Arkansas trooper made his way to Fox News Channel's
 mid-Manhattan studios, to tape an appearance on "Hannity  Colmes" that will
 run as soon as Hurricaine Floyd permits the resumption of regular Fox
 programming.

 Patterson's first full day of press interviews since NewsMax.com released
 his story ended on Alan Colmes' WEVD late night radio show, as Patterson's
 long embargoed account continued to spice up the ever-simmering pot of
 Clinton allegations.

   All Rights Reserved © NewsMax.com
 http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=1999/9/16/11526

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Re: [CTRL] TRAUMATIC AMNESIA

1999-09-19 Thread Smart News

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I highly recommend those interested in this topic read the entire article. I
am only able to quote from a small portion of it.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

excerpts from http://members.tripod.com/~Curio_5_/whitfield.html

Sexual Addiction  Compulsivity, 4, 2, 1997
copyright Brunner/Mazel.Inc. 1997
TRAUMATIC AMNESIA: The Evolution of Our Understanding From a Clinical and
Legal Perspective

Since this peer-reviewed paper was published, I have identified 51 studies
(as of November 1998) that prove the reality of traumatic amnesia in
childhood sexual abuse and other traumas. In spite of this strong evidence,
"fms" proponents continue to claim that none of these studies proves its
existence. I suggest that the reader see the recent excellent textbook by
Brown, Scheflin, and Hammond: Memory, Trauma Treatment, and the Law, by
Norton, 1998, for more detailed documentation of traumatic amnesia.]

While some accused and convicted child molesters have inappropriately
influenced the media, the public, and many in the clinical and legal
professions by claiming that traumatic amnesia does not occur in child sexual
abuse, workers in the field of trauma psychology have accumulated solid
empirical evidence over the past 100 years that it does occur and is common.
Its existence and natural history are documented throughout the clinical
literature. This review describes extensive evidence that traumatic amnesia
is a real part of the effects and the natural history of child sexual abuse.

Over the past 100 years, we have accumulated a sizable amount of information
about the frequency and dynamics of traumatic amnesia (traumatic forgetting,
also called dissociative amnesia), and our clinical under standing of it has
sharpened during the past 15 years. But our legal understanding of traumatic
amnesia, as used by some lawyers, judges and juries, has only recently begun
to evolve and, unfortunately, has been heavily distorted by the adversarial
process and the media.

Likewise, from a detailed analysis of 38 clinical studies (on 2,774 child
sexual abuse survivors and 8,388 controls who were not sexually abused)
meeting rigorous research criteria, Neumann and colleagues (1996) found that
there was a significant association between a sexual abuse history and adult
symptoms. These symptoms include anxiety, anger, depression, revictimization,
self-mutilation, sexual problems, substance abuse, suicidality, low
self-esteem, interpersonal problems, obsessions and compulsions,
dissociation, posttraumatic stress responses, and somatization (physical
problems). Another review of 45 studies on 1,919 sexually abused children
(age range, 2 to 18 years) and 1,194 controls showed similar results
(Kendall-Tackett, Williams  Finkelhor, 1993).

To date, 36 studies on more than 6,000 children and adults who were abused as
children have been published; results showed that 16% to 78% of these
individuals experienced partial to total amnesa for the traumatic event(s)
for substantial periods of time. Most of these adults had been sexually
abused as children. Some were both physically and sexually abused, and a few
had been only physically abused. Clinical researchers commonly observe that
mental and emotional abuse nearly always accompanies physical or sexual
abuse. I have described 8 of the studies previously (Whitfield, 1995a); these
8 studies, along with 28 additional studies, are summarized in Table 3.

As an example, Wendy Stock and I surveyed 100 self-identified adult survivors
of child sexual abuse. We found that about a third always remembered the
abuse, another third had partial amnesia for the abuse, and the final third
had total amnesia for the abuse (Whitfield, 1996c; Whitfield Stock, 1996). I
have also conducted an informal survey of survivors of child hood trauma,
most having been sexually abused as children. I found that, of 171 people
surveyed, 121 (71%) reported experiencing amnesia of significant duration
(usually from a few years to decades) for the traumatic events (Whitfield,
1996a).

According to some critics, the child sexual abuse described in these studies
has not been corroborated by external proof. However, in 8 of these 36
reports, all of the subjects had external corroboration that their remembered
child sexual abuse occurred. In another 4 of these reports, from 60% to 80%
had external proof of their abuse, and still 4 more showed corroboration
among half of their subjects. In the remaining 20 reports, it was not a goal
to look for external proof of the abuse, yet these studies did not differ
from the more corroborated studies in terms of average percentage of combined
complete and partial amnesia reported (43.4% in the all corroborated group
vs. 4.8 % in the group with less than 50 % or unknown corroboration). Thus,
whether externally corroborated or not, whether prospective or retrospective,
or whether conducted on a sample of known child sexual abuse survivors or
self-reported ones, these study results 

Re: [CTRL] The glorious capitalist free market economic system.

1999-09-19 Thread TenebrousT

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In a message dated 9/18/99 8:22:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 What should we DO?  I'm more of a THINKER than a DOER, in case you hadn't
  noticed.
  I've got no easy answers, even for myself; but it's necessary, IMHO, to
  begin asking that question with a much more serious tone than we've been
  doing up until this point.


I agree and the same is true for me.  I think it is imperative that people
start to DO SOMETHING, no matter how seemingly small or "insignificant."
Sometimes this is enough to get the ball rolling, so to speak.

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[CTRL] Al-Fayed: Dodi And Di Murdered

1999-09-19 Thread Dave

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forwarded

Dave Hartley
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http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


 http://cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9909/17/BC-DIANA-FAYED.reut/index.html

Al-Fayed: Dodi And Di Murdered; Driver Paul Blinded By Laser And Blood
Swapped

   9-18-99

   LONDON (Reuters) -- Harrods store owner Mohamed al-Fayed
   accused British intelligence on Friday of killing Princess Diana and
   his son Dodi, allegations the government called "baseless."

   Al-Fayed said Henri Paul, the driver of the car in which the couple
   died in Paris two years ago, had acted on the orders of Britain's MI5
   and MI6 security agencies and the French intelligence service.

   "He drove into the tunnel under the instructions of MI6 and MI5
   and French intelligence," al-Fayed told BBC radio in an interview.
   "They killed him, they had to kill him, of course."

   Al-Fayed has persisted with his version of events despite a French
   judicial inquiry that found Paul was drunk when his Mercedes
   limousine crashed at high speed into a pillar in a Paris road tunnel
on
   August 31, 1997.

   The British Foreign Office said there was "not a shred of truth" in
   the allegation that the accident was the result of a conspiracy.

   "The implication that an agency of the British government might
   have had some involvement is baseless, and deeply upsetting for the
   royal family, the princess's family and all those who wish to
   remember her life and achievements," a spokesman said.

   Al-Fayed said Paul was sober and his blood sample had been
   switched at the mortuary. Paul had been a paid informer of MI6,
   Britain's foreign intelligence agency, for three years, he said.

   Al-Fayed, an Egyptian, called MI5, Britain's counter-intelligence
   service, and MI6 "two evil organisations accountable to nobody."

   "People have to understand that what happened to Diana and what
   happened to my son is a murder and I am not going keep quiet until
   I get to the truth."

   Al-Fayed said he had been unable to obtain proof to back his
   allegations because British secrecy laws denied him access to the
   files of the intelligence services.

   Al-Fayed said Dodi, a playboy film producer, had been engaged to
   marry Diana, who was divorced from British royal heir Prince
   Charles the year before she died. Friends of Diana say she did not
   intend to marry Dodi.

   Al-Fayed repeated his contention that the crash was caused by a
   white Fiat Uno car, which has not been traced, pushing the
   Mercedes into the pillar.

   He also revisited a theory, supported by a witness dismissed by
   French police as unreliable, that driver Paul -- an employee of
   Fayed's Ritz Hotel -- was blinded by a laser light.

   "Where is the Fiat Uno which pushed the car the into the column?
   Where is the motorcycle which ran away with a laser gun, blinding
   the driver?" Al-Fayed asked.


Diana Driver's Blood 'Swapped' In Murder Cover-Up
   Says Al-Fayed


   LONDON (AFP) - British and French intelligence swapped the
   blood of the driver of Princess Diana's car to cover up the "murder"
   of Diana and her companion Dodi Fayed, Egyptian millionaire
   Mohammed Al Fayed claimed Friday.

   In an interview with the BBC, Dodi's father accused Britain and
   France of killing the couple and then trying to lay the blame on
Paul,
   who also died in the crash.

   A two-year investigation by French judges concluded Paul was
   drunk, under medication and speeding when their Mercedes car
   crashed into a pillar on the Alma road tunnel in Paris early on
   August 31, 1997.

   Fayed, owner of the Harrods department store in London and the
   Ritz Hotel in Paris, has repeatedly accused the British secret
services
   and royal family of plotting the deaths, and is appealing the ruling
by
   the French judges.

   He returned to the attack in the BBC interview, insisting that if
only
   he was allowed access to secret service files, he could prove it was
   all a plot.

   "Henri Paul's blood was exchanged in the mortuary, it's not Henri
   Paul's blood ... I'm going to prove that the blood is not Henri
Paul's
   blood," he added.

   Fayed said Paul had been in the pay of British intelligence and drove
   into the tunnel "under the instruction" of the British and French
   secret services.

   He too had to die as part of the plot so he could not reveal
anything.

   "They know what they have done and I'm not going to let them get
   away with that ... the guy was not drunk."

   Fayed also insisted Diana was still conscious "seven or eight hours"
   after the accident, 

[CTRL] Charles Pixley Story, The Battle Over 714X

1999-09-19 Thread Dave

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found on the net at:
http://www.thewinds.org/archive/medical/charles_pixley08-98.html

Dave Hartley
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http://www.ioa.com/~davehart

The Charles Pixley Story
The Battle Over 714X
Charles Pixley was recently released from a federal prison camp outside
of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. His crime? He had made available to the
American public knowledge of and access to 714X, a homeopathic camphor
compound which is available to the Canadian public and is regarded as a
highly successful therapy against cancer. After a lengthy court battle,
which left him financially ruined, Pixley was sentenced to nineteen years in
federal prison.

Even though he is a medical layman, Pixley's story is similar to that of
other scientists and physicians who sought to defeat disease outside the
accepted conventions of orthodox medicine. The faces and names change, but
the story is the same. A physician, scientist or researcher seeks to develop
or make available a treatment for cancer or some other deadly disease. These
are sought out by patients who are in the advanced stages of their disease,
whose bank accounts have been drained by the medical establishment, and who
despair of finding a cure in those realms. As alternatives to the
established therapies are presented to them, the U.S. Food and Drug
Administration (FDA) sweeps in, seizing research materials, patient lists
and all assets in a fit of Gestapo-like fury. Professional and financial
ruin and sometimes incarceration are all that is left for those who make
treatment alternatives available to the ill.

This was the experience of Charles Pixley. In 1989 microbiologist Gaston
Naessens was acquitted of charges in Canada that he contributed to the death
of a terminal cancer patient he had introduced to 714X. After that momentous
three-year court battle, Naessens' camphor-based compound was made available
for legal prescription by the Canadian Department of Health and Welfare.
According to Pixley, it has since been used with varying but significant
degrees of success by over 100,000 terminal cancer patients without one
instance of side effect. It is also inexpensive.


THE STORY BEGINS
   In 1990 Pixley, his wife and an associate started Writers and Research,
Inc. in Rochester, N.Y. for the purpose of promoting specific works they
considered to be of immediate and practical benefit to the public in regards
to the fields of business, environment, health and socio-politics. As they
began to study the fields of health and medicine they were excited to learn
that successful therapies for cancer actually existed, but were being
withheld from the public. They then formed the Institutional Review Board
(IRB) for the exclusive promotion of the research and discoveries of Gaston
Naessens and 714X, the homeopathic compound he formulated.

Pixley told The WINDS, "One-hundred percent of the people we were
working with were final stage terminal according to the standard oncologist.
They had already completed their chemotherapy and radiation and now were in
a state where there was no more money for them. They were at death's door as
a result of the [orthodox] therapy."

Pixley states that from the inception of the IRB in April of 1992, they
were visited regularly by the FDA who "requested and received copies of all
available research, toxicology studies, spectrographic chemical evaluations,
rat studies, patient histories, books, tapes, and samples of the 714X." Even
though they cooperated fully with the FDA, in 1995 their office was raided.
Computers, books, tapes, business records and patients' personal medical
records were seized.

After several attempts, the U.S. Attorney succeeded in having a Grand
Jury indict him and his corporation as co-conspirators for "conspiring to
defraud the United States by importation of an unapproved new drug," a
felony under Title 18 U.S.C. 321. Pixley later determined through the
Freedom of Information Act that this FDA regulation had never been published
in the Federal Register and, therefore, was not promulgated according to the
law. This did not seem to matter. Pixley was ordered into Federal Court in
April of 1996.

As a defense Pixley planned to expose the evident policy of the FDA to
suppress life-saving therapies, both to protect the profits of the
medical/pharmaceutical cartels and to carry out a larger agenda of
population reduction. The prosecution "filed a 'motion in limine', which was
designed to prevent me from saying anything or putting up any defense
whatsoever," Pixley told The WINDS. "Even though they didn't know what my
defense was going to be, they had an inkling that I was going to start
accusing the government of genocide" before the jury. "Their goal was to put
me away no matter what." Pixley was found guilty and sentenced to nineteen
years in prison. His sentence was later reduced on appeal to a year and a
month, partly, he feels, because he was allowed to present 

[CTRL] the battle of Kosovo

1999-09-19 Thread Dave

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found on the net at http://www.worldpuja.org


Dave Hartley
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http://www.ioa.com/~davehart

(From a report submitted by Fr. John entitled: The Real Meaning of the
Battle of Kosovo)

The battle of Kosovo took place on June 28, 1389 between a Christian
Coalition led by Tsar Lazar of Serbia and the Turkish Muslim forces led by
King Murad. In addition to being a great leader, Tsar Lazar was also a very
spiritual and holy man. In a story told to every Serbian school child for
countless generations, an extraordinary event is recounted. The night before
the battle God appeared to Tsar Lazar and told him he could win either a
great material or a great spiritual victory. It was his choice. Being a man
of profound Christian faith, Tsar did not hesitate and chose the spiritual
victory. The next day the battle was lost and both Tsar Lazar and King Murad
were killed.

The misinterpretation of that event by Serbian nationalists has led to their
denial of Tsar Lazar’s vow as well as the promise given to him by God. It is
as if the ancient battle had never been lost, as if the Muslims had never
fought in Kosovo at all, or that the 400 year cultural flowering and unique
legacy of Muslims and Christians living together in Bosnia never occurred

Tsar Lazar’s choice of a great spiritual victory led eventually to the
flowering of diverse religious and ethnic cultures, all living together in
peace and harmony. This was most profound in Sarajevo, a model of hope for
the future of the world and a bulwark against religious fundamentalism and
fanaticism. In their denial and misunderstanding of this, and ultimately the
building of Gazi Mestan in Kosovo, a monument symbolizing Serbian ethnic and
religious nationalism, the values Tsar Lazar had repudiated in his choice
for a spiritual victory were lost. Serbia went against their greatest
spiritual leader, his vow and choice, and God’s promise to him.

It is well known that World War I was triggered by the assassination of
ArchDuke Ferdinand in Sarajevo on June 1914 by a Serbian man named Gavrilo
Princep. This in turn paved the way for World War II, the rise of the Adolph
Hitler and the Nazi party, the Holocaust, and many other horrors. The war in
former Yugoslavia ended nearly a century of European warfare with ethnic
violence that had not been seen since Hitler. What is not so well known are
the links of all these events to Kosovo and the promise to Tsar Lazar.

Gavrilo Princep, a Serbian nationalist, specifically chose the day of June
28 to assassinate the ArchDuke. It was the anniversary of the Battle of
Kosovo, but what he did not know was the true nature of the group that
sponsored the assassination and from whom he took his direction. They were
not the like-minded nationalist’s Princep thought they were, but a secret
Serbian occult terrorist organization that called themselves "The Black
Hand." In this light the events of 1914-1945 and their spiritual
significance take on a whole new meaning.

The continuation of these events bring us back to Kosovo on June 28, 1989,
the 600th anniversary of the battle. President Milosevic of Serbia, also the
last president of Yugoslavia, gave an historic speech on the battlefield of
Kosovo to rally the last vestiges of a greater Serbia. This final tragic
misinterpretation of the spiritual victory won at the Battle of Kosovo and
God’s promise to Tsar Lazar set into motion all the terrible events that
have taken place in Bosnia, Croatia, Slovania and now Kosovo over the last
ten years. These have all been the dark fruits of the misunderstanding of
the Battle of Kosovo.

http://www.worldpuja.org/beloveddisciple/beloved.html

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Re: [CTRL] TIme Present, Time Past

1999-09-19 Thread Jeff Russo

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You can be that if he does really give a damn, the powers that be will never
allow him to be elected president. Those tomatoes you canned care more about
the good of the country than whichever slimy insider we end up with as
president will care.

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 I've been cannning tomatoes.  It's nice to have them during the winter
 months, but it's not very stimulating--just a lot of tasks over and over.
 Anyway, I've been listening to books on tape while I peeled, chopped, etc.,
 and one of them was "Time Present, Time Past" a memoir by Bill Bradley.
 Apparently there really is an old fashioned. real Democrat out there.  I'm
 going to be watching this guy very carefully, but if he really believes what
 he wrote about in this book, I think he would be the kind of president this
 country could use.  Maybe I've been hoodwinked, but I swear I think this guy
 really gives a damn.  Prudy.

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[CTRL] Cancer is the sacred cow of the medical INDUSTRY

1999-09-19 Thread Dave

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found on the net, at:
http://www.thewinds.org/archive/medical/fda9-97.html
see also
http://catalog.com/bri/summary.htm

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


"Cancer is the sacred cow of the medical industry. More people make money by
treating cancer than there are victims dying from the disease."

After a 25-year effort into medical/biological research, "I was
shocked," Dr. Halstead exclaimed, "to find upon my Rip Van Winkle return to
clinical medicine that dangerous toxic drugs, all FDA approved, had
proliferated to a frightening extent--over 1.54 billion prescriptions
written in the U.S. per year.

"I found," Halstead continues, "that many of these drugs destroy your
immune system and are carcinogenic. New and awesome medical technologies
were also being spawned, mind-blowing in both their diagnostic capability
and staggering costs to the consumer.

"However, in evaluating this new drug and health technology, I did not
find a commensurate improvement in either morbidity or mortality statistics
in chronic degenerative afflictions such as cardiovascular disease and
cancer. Costs had increased, but not the overall health index. We had
dropped to about 23[rd] position among the nations of the world in health
care."
---

FDA AND STATE AUTHORITIES WAR AGAINST NATURAL REMEDIES
A decade's-long dispute between a highly respected physician/scientist
and the State of California ended with the elderly doctor, Bruce Halstead,
on criminal probation and stripped of his license to practice medicine.

In light of this and other recent actions taken by state governmental
authorities in cooperation with such U. S. institutions as the Food and Drug
Administration (FDA) and the FTC (Federal Trade Commission), the government
appears to be engaged in a concerted war against a domain of the healing
arts known as alternative medicine. This war, ostensibly for the protection
of American citizens from unscrupulous "quacks," has apparently moved into a
new phase. The FDA's pursuit of medical "public enemies" is no longer
restricted primarily to non-MD practitioners not trained at established
medical schools--those the general public largely considers the unorthodox
fringe of the medical world. These federal agencies are now engaging the
force of the government's legal machinery in the prosecution of physicians
practicing "conventional medicine"--those who have dared to recognize and
even incorporate into their practices the efficacy of holistic natural
remedies.

Dr. Halstead is a graduate of Loma Linda University, a medical school
which, to those in the field of the human physiological sciences, ranks as
one of the more prestigious schools of medicine and scientific research in
the world.

The 77-year-old physician is currently on probation under the State of
California, Los Angeles County, for his activities involving the prescribing
of alternative medication, specifically for his cancer patients. Dr.
Halstead has been suspended from any form of medical practice. "In fact," he
told The WINDS, "I can't even talk to a patient about nutrition."

When his home and clinic in San Bernardino County were raided by the Los
Angeles District Attorney, "I challenged their legal jurisdiction," Halstead
informed The WINDS, "since I had never lived or worked in Los Angeles
County, but that did not matter. I was a legal novice and had not yet
learned that jurisdiction and venue were merely legal fantasies which have
no meaning in actual fact for the alternative health physician." (Nor,
apparently, does the constitutional doctrine of habeas corpus).

Dr. Halstead was charged with twenty-eight counts of conspiracy, grand
theft and violations of the Health and Safety Code, along with twenty felony
and misdemeanor counts.

"The prosecutor wanted me to go to prison for eight years," he told The
WINDS, "but the court ultimately reduced the sentence to 32 months. I was
offered, on at least ten different occasions, the 'opportunity' of plea
bargaining for a crime which I did not commit," Halstead explained. "My
reply was 'not until hell freezes over.'"

The assault upon alternative medicine "is not just against me," he said.
"They're after everybody and everything" connected with the field.

THE QUALIFICATIONS
Dr. Halstead, acclaimed as a genius even among his peers, has authored
hundreds of books and research publications. Among them are benchmark works
such as Poisonous and Venomous Marine Animals of the World which the U.S.
Navy considers of such importance as to fund a project to put the entire
three-volume tome on CD-ROM.

The WINDS obtained a copy of Dr. Halstead's Curriculum Vitae, the
academician's equivalent of a resume´. The following qualifications belong
to a man whom the government deems dangerous to his patients, incompetent to
practice medicine and academically inadequate to determine what is 

[CTRL] Cancer and Politics: The War Against Alternatives Goes On

1999-09-19 Thread Dave

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found on the net...

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


Researchers have known for decades that most cancers could be treated simply
and effectively-- so why are we hooked on expensive therapies?
by Peter Barry Chowka
Year after year, public opinion surveys find that Americans fear cancer more
than any other illness, a concern that is not unjustified: Cancer is
currently the second leading cause of death in the United States and by the
end of this decade it is predicted to become the number-one killer. This
year, more than one million Americans will learn that they have cancer--and
600,000 of them will die from it. The bottom line is that the cancer death
rate in America is rising every year.

In May 1997, John Bailar III M.D., made headlines with the publication of
his article in the New England Journal of Medicine questioning the impact of
conventional cancer treatments. Ten years ago, in an earlier issue of the
same publication, Bailar had written, "Some 35 years of intense effort
focused largely on improving [cancer] treatment must be judged a qualified
failure." Bailar and his co-author, Heather L. Gornick, now write, "with 12
more years of data and experience, we see little reason to change that
[earlier] conclusion."

Other studies in publications like Scientific American (November 1985) found
essentially the same thing. For example, chemotherapy drugs, the leading
conventional therapy for cancer, help no more than 5 percent of patients who
receive them (while more than 50 percent of cancer patients are treated with
them).

It is not surprising, then, that people diagnosed with cancer are turning
increasingly to alternative therapies. But although alternative cancer
therapies have always been popular during this century, they have seldom
been without controversy. One has only to recall the high-profile medical,
legal, and media skirmishes involving alternative therapies like Hoxsey
(1950s), Krebiozen ('60s), laetrile ('70s), Burton's Immunoaugmentive
Therapy ('80s), and Burzynski's antineoplastons ('90s) to get a sense of
this dynamic.

The words "cancer" and "politics" are inextricably intertwined. As Samuel
Epstein, M.D., author of The Politics of Cancer (Sierra Club Books, 1978)
notes, "The politics of cancer is more complex than the science of cancer."
Epstein is referring primarily to cancer causation and the environment. One
side of the cancer-politics issue is the fact that economics and politics
are at the heart of most cancers. According to WHO, it has been known
conclusively for several decades that 80 percent to 90 percent of human
cancers are associated with environmental factors including toxins in the
air, water and food; carcinogens in the workplace; dietary imbalances;
cigarette smoking, and other personal lifestyle choices. But dealing with
these causes entails touchy economic--and often political--choices. Bailar
notes the dilemma: "If we are to effectively prevent cancer, we will have to
change our diets and our smoking habits; we're also going to have to clean
up our environment, change industrial processes, and do a number of things
that will be difficult, expensive, time-consuming and intrusive." In
addition, Bailar adds that "A change [to prevention] at NCI would mean a
massive disruption in ideas and momentum in the research community and in
the businesses that support that research community."

An example of how politics and economics have prevented solutions from being
implemented came to my attention in 1977 when the late Dean Burk, Ph.D., a
brilliant chemist and a founder of NCI (in 1937), showed me a series of
dusty scientific papers stored in his Washington basement. To my surprise,
the documentation revealed that in the 1920s, '30s, and '40s, the dietary
link to cancer was a topic of vigorous scientific inquiry. This was
surprising news because, in the 1970s, linking the words "diet" and "cancer"
invited immediate attack and ridicule by the medical powers-that-be. But
experiments with laboratory mice and rats and primitive epidemiological
studies early in this century revealed that there was indeed such a thing as
an anticancer diet--one low in calories and fat and high in certain
micronutrients. (For more information, please see the accompanying two
articles on pages 456 and 464.) But according to Burk, these intriguing
findings were never implemented. As he explained, after World War II along
came chemotherapy [treatment for cancer], a byproduct of the military's
poison gas experiments. Suddenly, the expensive, high-tech, career-making
chemotherapy drug treatment-approach was fashionable and "hot," while there
was little to be gained--economically, professionally or otherwise--by
suggesting that people change their diets to prevent cancer.

It was not until the late 1970s that scientists and policymakers finally
began to open the door a crack to seriously re-examine the diet-cancer link.
Meanwhile, more 

[CTRL] Ranger dies during training exercise Sgt. Jamey J. Dimase

1999-09-19 Thread Richard Sampson

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http://www.l-e-o.com/news/0911RANGER.htm

Ranger dies during training exercise

 09/11/1999
 Amy Wolfford
 Staff Writer

 A U.S. Army Ranger from Fort Benning
 died after being shot in the chest during
 a marksmanship training exercise
 Thursday in Bamberg, Germany, a
 preliminary investigation shows.

 Sgt. Jamey J. Dimase, a 26-year-old
 soldier with 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger
 Regiment, was killed as a result of an
 11:30 a.m. accident, a news release from
 Fort Benning stated. Medical personnel
 on the scene responded, but were
 unable to resuscitate him.

 Details of events leading up to the
 death were not released Friday. The
 fatality remains under investigation by
 the U.S. Army Special Operations
 Command.

 "They train realistically and it's
 dangerous," post spokeswoman
 Monica Manganaro said.

 Dimase was a team leader from
 Cincinnati, where his mother resides.
 His father is from Miami. Their names
 were not released.

 He entered the Army seven years ago
 this month and joined the Rangers in
 June 1998. His elite unit that planned
 and conducted special military
 missions had been on a routine training
 mission in Europe for about a month.

 Training accidents have claimed the
 lives of about three dozen Rangers in
 the last two decades. Dimase is
 believed to be the first Ranger killed on
 duty since 1995, the year four Rangers
 died in a swampy area at Eglin Air
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[CTRL] Fwd: Feedback on the Phineas Priests

1999-09-19 Thread Kris Millegan





9.19.99
Feedback on the "Phineas Priests"


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 Original Message 
Subject: RE: Fort Worth Shooter/"Phineas Priests"--From The Konformist
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 11:00:11 EDT
From: J
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Guys:
FYI I sent this story to a PI friend who is also a writer. He is a
former
Master police officer and former Colonel in the military and was
responsible
for training SWAT Teams and he is very much into a lot of this. This is
his
reply:

The Phineas Priesthood is a very dangerous lot.  There are only a
handful of them, but they appear to be a far out fanatic offshoot of the
Christian Identity or Christian Israel group.  The CIs don't claim them,
but they may have started there.  This link to "The Process" is most
interesting and would explain a lot.  My gut reaction is that some of
them are MK/ULTRA or MONARCH mind control subjects.  Remember that
religion, satanism, and Satanic Ritual Abuse (Satanic Ritual Abuse) are
areas used by
mind control proponents to gain entry into one's consciousness.




[CTRL] Scots and the Secret Service

1999-09-19 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www-saw.arts.ed.ac.uk/secret/secretservice.html
A HREF="http://www-saw.arts.ed.ac.uk/secret/secretservice.html"Scots and
the Secret Service/A
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Scots at War/Secret War/
Scots and the British Secret Service

•The Secret Service Bureau
•Room 40
•First World War
•1919-1945






THE SECRET SERVICE BUREAU


Scots played a significant part in the formation of the British Secret
Service Bureau (SSB) established by the Committee of Imperial Defence in
July 1909. This followed a recommendation of an ad hoc committee to
examine the threat from German spies in Britain chaired by RICHARD
BURDON HALDANE, the Secretary of State for War.

HALDANE was born in Edinburgh in 1856, the son of Robert Haldane of
Cloan, a descendant of the Haldanes of Gleneagles, and Mary Elizabeth
Burdon-Sanderson, of Northumberland. Graduating in philosophy from the
University of Edinburgh, he read for the bar in London and took silk in
1890. In 1885 he became Liberal MP for East Lothian and in 1905 was
appointed by Prime Minister Asquith Secretary of State for War. Here his
best known achievement was in establishing the Territorials and
reforming and re-organising the army to fight in Europe. He was raised
to the peerage as Viscount Haldane of Cloan in 1911 and was Lord
Chancellor from 1912 to 1915 and again in 1924, during the first Labour
Government.

As Chairman of the Committee on German Espionage Haldane moved from
being a sceptic to a convert, and his report called for the formation of
a Secret Service Bureau to work on both counter-espionage and espionage.
This the SSB did under Captain Vernon Kell and Commander Mansfield
Cumming respectively and eventually it divided into what are now known
as MI5 and MI6 (or Secret Intelligence Service - SIS), the first two
pillars of Britain's modern Secret Service.

HALDANE instructed LIEUTENANT-GENERAL SIR JOHN SPENCER EWART, the
Director of Military Operations and Intelligence in the War Office, to
get the new SSB up and running. He, too, was a Scot. Born in 1861 into a
distinguished Dumfriesshire family with an established Army tradition
(his father was General Sir John Alexander Ewart, a veteran of the
Crimea and Indian Mutiny) EWART joined the Queen's Own Cameron
Highlanders in 1881, served in Egypt and Sudan 1884-6, Sudan 1898, and
the Boer War 1899-1902. He then served in the War Office as,
successively, Military Secretary, DMO, Director-General of the
Territorials and Adjutant-General until events surrounding the so-called
Curragh Mutiny of 1914 led to his resignation and subsequent appointment
as GOC Scotland. He died in 1930.

EWART was firmly convinced of the German spy menace and was a keen
supporter of establishing a Secret Service Bureau. 'In this area', he
complained, 'we are lamentably behind other nations especially Germany
which employs hosts of agents and spies'
ROOM 40


The third pillar of Britain's modern Secret Service was (and remains)
its intercept service for collecting and deciphering the communications
of other powers (currently known as GCHQ- Government Communications
Headquarters). This effectively began in 1914 with the creation of Room
40, the Admiralty's decoding section.

When war began the Director of Naval Intelligence was REAR-ADMIRAL HENRY
OLIVER (later Admiral Sir Henry Oliver), a Scot born near Kelso in the
Borders in 1865.OLIVER entered the Royal Navy in 1878 and quickly
established his reputation as an outstanding navigator. From 1908 to
1911 he was Naval Assistant to the First Sea Lord, Admiral 'Jackie'
Fisher and in 1913 became Director of Naval Intelligence. In October he
took up the position of Chief of the Naval War Staff that he held until
1919. He died in his 101st year, in 1965. (Pictured here on the right).

Faced with a mounting pile of intercepted coded signals from Germany
that could not be read, OLIVER turned to his fellow Scot and Director of
Naval Education SIR ALFRED EWING for help. (Pictured here below).

EWING, later to become Vice-Chancellor and Principal of Edinburgh
University, was born in Dundee in 1855, graduated from Edinburgh with a
degree in engineering, and in 1890 went to Cambridge as Professor of
Mechanism and Applied Mechanics. Admiral Fisher selected him as Director
of Naval Education in 1902 and it was under Ewing that both Dartmouth
and Osborne were established as naval colleges.

EWING took charge of the intercepts and very quickly established Room 40
as the top secret Admiralty centre to decipher them. Success came
quickly and by the end of 1914 Room 40 was deciphering nearly all
significant German naval messages including those of the High Seas Fleet
and the rapidly developing German submarine force. Room 40 also worked
with considerable success on diplomatic material, chalking up its major
triumph in the 1917 Zimmmerman telegram affair that helped bring the
United States into the war.

In 1917 EWING handed 

Re: [CTRL] SWAT Nation (Rant)

1999-09-19 Thread Bill

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Our Roman Heritage.

Linda Minor wrote:


 Since I'm not nearly as articulate or poetic as Goat, I'd just like to post
 the following excerpt from an article one of LaRouche's associates wrote
 about his research into how the oligarchy of Venice controlled the destiny
 of the age in which it lived, and has actually perpetuated itself into the
 present day.  The evil that we see everywhere we looked is the same evil
 that existed in the 15th Century, the 14th and back as far as you want to
 go.


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Re: [CTRL] SWAT Nation (Rant)

1999-09-19 Thread Sno0wl

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Sorry if this is sort of a riff off your rant, Goat, but I do get your point.

I have just had two rather odd experiences.

1.The advent of Floyd in upstate New York turned off the power in my very local
upstate NY neighborhood for almost 24 hours. (Not the whole town but the block where
I live and a few blocks to the west of me.) It went out at 8:30 p.m. and didn't come on
again until around 4 the next afternoon. When I went looking for info, folks told me 
that
there were lots of power lines down. But when I went out walking, I didn't see a single
onenot even where big trees were down.

In the NW corner of my house there is a sort of rumble that sounds like a motor
running. It has a vibration to it, so if you plug your ears, you can still hear/feel 
it. Over
the past year, I have experimented with turning off the furnace, the water heater, the
fridge, gone down into the basement at 3 in the morning looking for the source of this
noise, but have never found it. (Actually, it is least noticeable in the basement.)
Curiously, with ALL the power off, this noise/vibration was still there. Someone who
was working at my house heard it also.  What would you do if you had this
noise/vibration in your house?

2.When I got up on Saturday morning, I noticed that there were a lot of cars parked in
front of the Episcopal church across the street from me. At first I thought it might 
be a
funeral or perhaps a wedding rehearsal, since there are very rarely cars on Saturday--
but Always on Sunday. Late in the morning, the people came out of the church, and
guess who they were? The local public highschool football team--in uniform! All those
cars full of teenagers looked so serious and determined as the zoomed off towards the
playing fields. Does this mean that the public school football team attends pregame
prayer meetings. That the public highschool is playing football for Jesus?  Is this
kosher?


sno0wl

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[CTRL] FBI caught in FIB

1999-09-19 Thread K

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http://www.ar-chronicle.com/

This is a must read

Kathleen


You're not paranoid if everybody is really after you.

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[CTRL] Reflections on the politics of culture (fwd)

1999-09-19 Thread William Hugh Tunstall

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 Reflections on the politics of culture. by Michael Parenti


  In the academic social sciences, students are taught to think of culture as
representing the customs and mores of a society, including its language, art,
laws, and religion. Such a definition has a nice neutral sound to it, but
culture is anything but neutral. Much of what is thought to be our common
culture is the selective transmission of class-dominated values. Antonio
Gramsci understood this when he spoke of class hegemony, noting that the state
is only the "outer ditch behind which there [stands] a powerful system of
fortresses and earthworks," a network of cultural values and institutions not
normally thought of aS political.(1) What we call "our culture" is largely
reflective of existing hegemonic arrangements within the social order,
strongly favoring some interests over others.
  A society built upon slave labor, for instance, swiftly develops a racist
culture, replete with its own peculiar laws, science, and mythology, along
with mechanisms of repression directed against both slaves and the critics of
slavery. After slavery is abolished, racism continues to fortify the
inequitable social relations - which is what Engels meant when he said that
slavery leaves its "poisonous sting" long after it passes into history.
  Culture, then, is not an abstract force that floats around in space and
settles upon us - though given the seemingly subliminal ways it influences us,
it can feel like a disembodied, ubiquitous entity. In fact, culture is
mediated through a social structure. We get our culture from a network of
social relations involving other people: primary groups such as family, peers,
and other informal associations within the community or, as is increasingly
the case, from more formally articulated and legally chartered institutions
such as schools, media, churches, government agencies, corporations, and the
military.
  Linked by purchase and persuasion to dominant ruling-class interests, such
social institutions are regularly misrepresented as politically neutral,
especially by those who occupy command positions within them or are otherwise
advantaged by them. What Gramsci said about the military might apply to most
other institutions in capitalist society: their "so-called neutrality only
means support for the reactionary side."(2)
  The Slippery Slope of Cultural Relativism
  When culture is treated as nothing more than an innocent accretion of
solutions and practices, and each culture is seen as something inviolate, then
all cultures are accepted at face value and cultural relativism is the
suggested standard. So we hear that we should avoid ethnocentrism and respect
other cultures. To be sure, after centuries in which indigenous cultures have
been trampled underfoot by colonizers, we need to be acutely aware of the
baneful effects of cultural imperialism and of the oppressive intolerance
manifested toward diverse ethnic cultures within our own society.
  But the struggle to preserve cultural diversity should not give carte
blanche to anyone in any society to violate basic human rights. Many
patriarchal cultures, for example, are replete with "sacrosanct customs" that,
on closer examination, promote the worst kinds of gender victimization,
including the mutilation of female children through clitorectomy and
infibulation, and the sale of young girls into sexual slavery. I once heard an
official from Saudi Arabia demand that Westerners show respect for his
culture: he was addressing critics who denounced the Saudi practice of stoning
women to death on charges of adultery. He failed to mention that there were
people within his own culture - including, of course, the female victims - who
were not enamored of such time-honored traditions.
  For most of U.S. history, slaveholders and then segregationists insisted
that we respect the South's "way of life." In Nazi Germany, anti-Semitism was
an integral part of the ongoing political culture. Many evildoers might rally
under the banner of cultural relativism. The truth is, as we struggle for
human betterment, we must challenge the oppressive and destructive features of
all cultures, including our own.
  In academic circles, postmodernist theorists offer their own variety of
cultural relativism. They reject the idea that human perceptions can transcend
culture. For them, all kinds of knowledge are little more than social
constructs. Evaluating any culture from a platform of fixed and final truths,
they say, is a dangerous project that often contains the seeds of more extreme
forms of domination. In response, I would argue that, even if there are no
absolute truths, this does not mean all consciousness is hopelessly
culture-bound. People from widely different societies and different periods in
history can still recognize forms of class, ethnic, and gender 

[CTRL] The myth of the liberal campus (fwd)

1999-09-19 Thread William Hugh Tunstall

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 The myth of the liberal campus
 by Michael Parenti

  For some time now, we have been asked to believe that higher education is
being devalued by the "politically correct" tyrannies of feminists, African
Ameri can nationalists, gays, lesbians, and Marxists. The truth is something
else. In fact, most college professors and students are drearily conventional
in their ideological proclivities. And the system of rule within the average
university or college, be it private or public, owes more to Sparta than to
Athens. The university is a chartered corporation ruled, like any other
corporation, by a self appointed, self perpetuating board of trustees,
composed overwhelm ingly of affluent and conservative businesspeople.
  Trustees retain final say over all mat ters of capital funding, investment,
bud get, academic curriculum, scholarships, tuition, and the hiring, firing,
and pro motion of administration and faculty personnel. At no time do they
have to deal with anything that might be called democracy. They face no free
and inde pendent campus press, no elections, no opposing political slates, and
no ac countability regarding policy and per formance. Conservative critics who
rant about "politically correct" coercions ap pear to be perfectly untroubled
by this oligarchic rule.
  On these same campuses can be found faculty members who do "risk analysis"
to help private corporations make safe investments in the Third World, or who
work on marketing tech niques and union busting, or who devise new methods for
controlling rebellious peoples at home and abroad and new weapons systems and
technologies for surveillance and counterinsurgency. (Napalm was invented at
Harvard.) For handsome fees, these faculty offer bright and often ruthless
ideas on how to make the world safe for those who own it.
  On these same campuses, one can find recruiters from various corporations,
the armed forces, and the intelligence agencies. In 1993, an advertise ment
appeared in campus newspapers promoting "student programs and career
opportunities" with the CIA. Students "could be eligible for a CIA internship
and tuition assistance" and would get "hands on experience" working with CIA
"professionals" while attending school. (The ad did not explain how full time
students could get experience as undercover agents. Would it be by reporting
on professors and fellow students who voiced iconoclastic views?)
  Without any apparent sense of irony, many of the faculty engaged in these
worldly activities argue that a university should be a place apart from
immediate worldly interests. In reality, many universities have direct
investments in corporate America in the form of substantial stock portfolios.
By purchase and persuasion, our institutions of higher learning are wedded to
institutions of higher earning.
 A MATTER OF SOME HISTORY
Ideological repression in academia is as old as the nation itself. Through the
eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, most colleges were controlled by reli
giously devout trustees who believed it their duty to ensure faculty
acceptance of the prevailing theological preach meets. In the early 1800s,
trustees at northern colleges prohibited their faculties from engaging in
critical discussions of slavery; abolitionism was a taboo subject. At colleges
in the South, faculty actively devoted much of their intellectual energies to
justifying slavery and injecting white supremacist notions into the overall
curriculum.
  In the 1870s and 1880s, Darwinism was the great bugaboo. Presidents of nine
prominent eastern colleges went on record as prohibiting the teaching of
evolutionary theory. What is called "creationism" today was the only
acceptable viewpoint on most of the nation's campuses.
  By the 1880s, rich businessmen came to dominate the boards of trustees of
most institutions of learning. They seldom hesitated to impose ideological
controls. They fired faculty members who expressed heretical ideas on and off
campus and who attended Populist Party conventions, championed antimonopoly
views, supported free silver, opposed U.S. imperialism in the Philip pines, or
defended the rights of labor leaders and socialists.
  During World War I, university officials such as Nicholas Murray Butler,
president of Columbia University, explicitly forbade faculty from criticizing
the war, arguing that in times of war such heresy was seditious. A leading
historian, Charles Beard, was grilled by the Columbia trustees, who were
concerned that his views might "inculcate disrespect for American
institutions" In disgust, Beard resigned from his teaching position, declaring
that the trustees and Nicholas Murray Butler sought "to drive out or humilate
or terrorize every man who held progressive, liberal, or unconventional views
on political matters."
  Academia never has been receptive to persons of anti capitalist 

[CTRL] The super rich are out of sight (fwd)

1999-09-19 Thread William Hugh Tunstall

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-- Forwarded message --
The super rich are out of sight
by Michael Parenti


The super rich, the top 1% who earn the lions share of the nation's income, go
uncounted in most income distribution reports. Even those who study the
question sometimes overlook the wealthiest among us. For instance, the Center
on Budget and Policy Priorities, relying on the latest U.S. Census Bureau
data, released a report in December 1997 showing that in the last two decades,
"incomes of the richest fifth increased by 30% or nearly $27,000 after
adjusting for inflation." The average income of the top 20% was $117,500, or
almost 13 times larger than the $9,250 average income of the poorest 20%.
But where are the super rich? An average of $117,500 is an upper-middle
income, not at all representative of a rich cohort, let alone a super-rich
one. Many such reports about income distribution are based on U.S. Census
Bureau surveys that regularly leave Big Money out of the picture. A few phone
calls to the Census Bureau in Washington D.C. revealed that for years the
bureau never interviewed anyone who had an income higher than $300,000. Or if
interviewed, they were never recorded as above the "reportable upper limit" of
$300,000, the top figure allowed by the bureau's computer program. In 1994,
the bureau lifted the upper limit to $1 million. This still excludes the
richest 1%, the hundreds of billionaires and thousands of multimillionaires
who make many times more than $1 million a year. The super rich simply have
been computerized out of the Census Bureaus picture.
When asked why this procedure was used, an official said that the Census
Bureaus computers could not handle higher amounts. A most improbable excuse,
since once the bureau decided to raise the upper limit from $300,000 to $1
million it did so without any difficulty, and it could do so again. Another
reason the official gave was "confidentiality." Given place coordinates,
someone with a very high income might be identified. Furthermore, he said,
high-income respondents usually understate their investment returns by about
40% to 50%. Finally, the official argued that since the super rich are so few,
they are not likely to show up in a national sample. And since they are so
few, including them would skew the sample, wouldn't it?
But by designating the (decapitated) top 20% of the entire nation as the
"richest" quintile, the Census Bureau is including millions of people who make
as little as $70,000. If you make over $100,000, you are in the top 4%. Now
$100,000 is a tidy sum indeed, but it's not super rich - as in Mellon, Morgan
or Murdoch. The difference between Michael Eisner, the Disney CEO who pocketed
$565 million in 1996, and the individuals who average $9,250 is not 13 to one
- the reported spread between highest and lowest quintiles - but over 61,000
to one.
Much attention has been given to the top corporate managers who rake in tens
of millions of dollars annually in salaries and perks. But little is said
about the tens of billions that their corporations distribute to the top
investor class each year, again that invisible 1% of the population. Media
publicity that focuses exclusively on a handful of greedy top executives
conveniently avoids any exposure of the super rich as a class. In fact,
reining in the CEOs who cut into the corporate take would well serve the big
shareholders' interests.
Two studies that do their best to muddy our understanding of wealth, conducted
by the Rand Corporation and the Brookings Institution - and widely reported in
the major media - found that individuals typically become rich not from
inheritance but by maintaining their health and working hard. Most of their
savings comes from their earnings and has nothing to do with inherited family
wealth, the researchers would have us believe.
In typical social science fashion, they prefigured their findings by limiting
the scope of their data. Both studies fail to note that achieving a high
income is itself in large part due to inherited advantages. Those coming from
upper-strata households have a far better opportunity to maintain their health
and develop their performance, attend superior schools, and achieve the
advanced professional training, contacts, and influence needed to land higher
paying positions.
More importantly, both the Rand and Brookings studies failed to include the
super rich, those who sit on immense and largely inherited fortunes. Instead,
the investigators concentrated on upper middle class professionals and
managers, most of whom earn in the $100,000 to $300,000 range - which
indicates the researchers have no idea how rich the very rich really are.
When pressed on this point, they explain that there is a shortage of data on
the very rich. Being such a tiny percentage, "they're an extremely difficult
part of the population to survey," pleads Rand economist James P. 

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[CTRL] Blaming the barbarians (fwd)

1999-09-19 Thread William Hugh Tunstall

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Blaming the barbarians (preservation of culture after
   the Barbarian invasions of Rome) by Michael Parenti


   Occupying a perch on the best-seller list for the better part of two years
was Thomas Cahill's How the Irish Saved Civilization, a book that still enjoys
brisk sales. Cahill argues that Irish monastic scholars rescued classical and
folk literature (including Ireland's own rich contributions) from the
Visigoths who sacked Rome in 410 and from other peoples who invaded Italy from
the north. Thus he breathes new life into the old myth of the Christian church
as a citadel of learning amidst the ignorant hordes.
   (A moment's reflection should remind us that literature and learning were
preserved not only in the Irish monasteries but also among the Moors and in
various cities in the Eastern empire and elsewhere around the imperial
periphery. But Cahill's book would have proved far less marketable had he more
accurately entitled it How the Irish, Along with Others, Helped Preserve a
Portion of What Might Be Called "Civilization.")
   By Cahill's account, the clergy "saved" classical civilization from those
whom he calls "unwashed barbarians," who "descended on the Roman cities,
looting artifacts and burning books." Here I wish to argue the contrary: if
the Irish clergy "saved civilization," it was not from the barbarians but
principally from their fellow preachers.
   First, please note that Cahill offers not a morsel of evidence to support
his repeated assertions that the barbarians burned books or waged--as the
Christians themselves had been doing for decades--a Kulturkampf against
classical learning and lay literacy. While the barbarians certainly looted,
they seemed little interested one way or the other in written texts. The one
actual instance Cahill offers of books being damaged by invaders occurred in
Ireland hundreds of years after the fall of Rome, when "Viking terrorists" (as
he calls them) looted some monasteries and "destroyed books by ripping off
bejeweled covers for booty." Even in this episode, the marauders' interest was
in the gems, not the destruction of books per se.
   Furthermore, decades before the northern tribes descended upon Rome, the
church itself had burned all the critiques of Christianity written by
prominent non-Christian scholars, such as Porphyry and Celsus. By the late
fourth century, church censorship had extended into just about every area of
learning. In 391 Alexandria, the Christians, led by the patriarch Theophilus,
destroyed the Serapeum, the annex or "daughter library" to the Museum, the
main edifice that housed the great bibliotheca in antiquity. The Serapeum
itself had contained a priceless trove of scrolls and codices. In the decades
that followed, the Museum's collection was purged and transformed by the
Christians so that, by the time the main library was destroyed by Islamic
invaders in 641, it housed mostly patristic and other church writings.
   In various countries, ancient academies were abolished and laypeople were
forbidden to read even the Bible. Cahill offers not a word about the closing
of academies, the destruction of libraries, the book burning, and the overall
intellectual repression waged by the church well before the Visigothic assault
on Rome and continuing long afterward. From about 320 to 395, the twenty-eight
public libraries in Rome "like tombs, were closed forever," as Cahill quotes
the lamenting Ammianus Marcellinus--whom he fails to identify as a
non-Christian historian. Again, the impression left is that the barbarians
were to blame, but the closings occurred during the time of Christian
domination, years before the Visigoths set foot inside Rome.
   Book burning seems to have started rather early as a Christian practice,
during the apostolic age, among the very first generation of believers. In
Acts 19:17-19, we learn that the Greeks and Jews in the city of Ephesus
responded to Paul's preaching by destroying their books valued at fifty
thousand pieces of silver--an act that, if not urged by Paul, certainly earned
his approval. Cahill does, however, let fall a few hints regarding
Christianity's war against learning, mentioning Pope Gregory's hostility
toward non-Christian classics and St. Jerome's fear of damnation for having
read Cicero. Ironically, the one concrete example Cahill gives of an actual
book burning is by a pope: Honorius III's order in 1225 to torch all copies of
a metaphysical work of some originality by Irish philosopher Johannes
Eriugena.
   By the end of the fifth century, with Christianity firmly in command as the
state religion, the profession of copyist had disappeared, as had the
reproduction of most secular writings. From that time until the late sixteenth
century or so, the church hierarchy viewed unbridled literacy among the masses
as a threat to clerical and 

[CTRL] DRUDGE: BUSH REFUSING TO RELEASE MEDICAL RECORDS (fwd)

1999-09-19 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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X DRUDGE REPORT X

SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 1998 20:41:09 ET


BUSH REFUSING TO RELEASE MEDICAL RECORDS

**Exclusive**

GOP presidential front runner George W. Bush is refusing to
release his medical records, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

In recent weeks, Bush has declined persistent requests by several
major media outlets for a detailed accounting of his health
history and current condition.

At the close of business on Friday, Bush campaign officials were
not budging.

"The governor is in great health and we will back that up," one
senior staffer told the DRUDGE REPORT.

But when pressed about the repeated requests made by reporters
for the release of Bush's complete medical records, the campaign
insider cried foul.

"We strongly believe that this is an issue of privacy," said the
official. "I think the American people are sick and tired of
reporters digging around in people's private lives!"

Ironically, George W. Bush's stand against releasing his medical
records clashes with assurances that were made during his
father's presidential campaign.

In 1988, the late Lee Atwater, campaign manager for George Bush,
promised reporters that Vice-President Bush would produce
whatever private medical records the press requested.

The WASHINGTON POST and the WALL STREET JOURNAL, which
consistently hit Bill Clinton after he refused to release his
full medical records, could publicly challenge the W. Bush
campaign as early as this week, according to publishing sources.

Editors in one newsroom have argued that Bush should simply be
held to the same standard that his father's handlers wished to
hold candidate Clinton.

Former press secretary for President Bush, Marlin Fitzwater,
blasted Bill Clinton for failing to release his medical records.

"Clinton has stonewalled from the beginning in 1992 and he offers
no explanation; he simply says, 'I won't do it,'" Fitzwater told
reporters.

The W. Bush camp could be spooked by comments made by President
Ronald Reagan in 1988.

"I do believe the medical history of a President is something the
people have a right to know and I speak from personal
experience," Reagan said.

Developing...

X X X X X

RAINING HILLARY

The flags are up!

The warnings have been issued.

In the next six months, America's book publishers are going to be
printing books and crashing audios almost non-stop on the Life
and Times of Hillary Rodham Clinton.

No less than 6 major books on Hillary are now planned to flood
stores.

It will be: pick the Hillary you want. Witch or hero?

Lined up on the shelf will be a variety of Hillary personalities
for enjoyment.

First up, "Hillary's Choice," by Gail Sheehy [Suck up], set for
release by RANDOM HOUSE. Sheehy aims a love arrow at Hillary
Rodham Clinton to find out what makes her run.

There will be Hillary books coming from Lewinsky media star
Barbara Olsen [Critic], Carl Bernstein [Suck up], MSNBC's Laura
Ingraham [Critic] and others.

Publisher Judith Regan [Critic] is holding and molding a redhot
Hillary book.

And is David Brock [Suck up] itching to update his SEDUCTION OF
HILLARY RODHAM with new information shared by White House aide
and Hillary insider Sidney Blumenthal?

Or will that be saved for the next wave.

"I think we may be reaching a point where there is nothing more
to say about Hillary," a publisher, who recently passed on yet
another Hillary project, said in New York City last week.

Only the cash register knows that future.


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[CTRL] Peaceful Reasoning

1999-09-19 Thread David Crockett Williams

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Subject: Global Peace Walk message/letter of support:
Date: Sunday, September 19, 1999 3:41 PM

From: Peace Through Reason,
Peace Park Antinuclear Vigil (White House)
To:  Global Peace Walk2000

We support the Global Peace Walk Project and thank Reverend Yusen Yamato
and David Crockett Williams for their prayer walk from California to the
White House and United Nations, seeking and teaching the global abolition
of nuclear weapons -- testing, wastes, and other dangers.

We agree that it adds strength to the nuclear abolition movement to unite
all survival issues together under a prayer for "Global Peace Now!"  We
also support the idea of a Global Peace and Environment Platform for
candidates in the Year 2000 U.S. National elections.

The world we all live in is the product of ideas, individual and collective.
 For too long humanity's time, energy, "money," have been funneled into
rotten ideas.  This situation can be changed if we spend our energy and
resources on PRACTICAL concepts, and transform the deadly
"military-industrial complex" President Eisenhower warned about into
self-sustaining, environment- and neighbor-friendly industries.  (See
http://prop1.org/convert/convpro.htm.)

We are very encouraged that DC Congresswoman Eleanor Holmes Norton has
again introduced into Congress HR-2545, the Nuclear Disarmament and
Economic Conversion Act of 1999, which calls on the U.S. to commit to
global nuclear disarmament, and to redirect weapons funding to peaceful
purposes such as housing, health care, education, food, and environmental
restoration.  See http://prop1.org/prop1/hr2545.htm.  This bill was first
submitted, in 1994, as the result of a successful Washington, DC ballot
initiative (#37, 1993), which asked the mayor to advise our Congresswoman
that the majority of the voters wanted her to introduce it.

We hope that Global Peace Walk2000 will help alert the people in America
and around the world to this great opportunity, which only needs adequate
public support to be made into law in the U.S. ... and thence around the
world.  (See suggestions, and text of bill, below.)

Your efforts can be very helpful.  Thank you for carrying and sharing the
idea of eliminating nuclear weapons while walking to Washington DC.

We'd certainly like to see the materialization of your vision of gathering
over a million people around the Washington Monument on October 12, 2000;
let us know what we can do to help.  We'll be waiting to welcome you when
you arrive on October 9, 2000.  We'll forward your appeal to the Mayor  and
 City Council for a proclamation that Washington DC should be a Global
Peace Zone.

Meanwhile, send us press clippings and commentary about your walk across
the country, and we'll help by posting updates on our website
(http://prop1.org), and to our extensive list of email subscribers.   We'll
also help you and other subscribers to keep up to date on what's happening,
good and bad, on our mother, Earth. See http://prop1.org/nucnews/nucnews.htm


W.Thomas
Ellen Thomas

and other members of the Vigil
(see http://prop1.org/parkcurr.htm)

  --

  WHAT YOU CAN DO
To Help Rid the World of Nuclear Weapons

   WORLD CITIZENS
(this means EVERYBODY!):

* Write the United Nations Ambassadors for all countries with nuclear
weapons (Britain, China, France, Israel, India, Pakistan, Russia, United
States) and those suspected of wanting nuclear weapons (such as North
Korea, Iraq, Iran). Write c/o U.N. Plaza, New York, NY 10017, USA, and say,
"Please promise, and use your influence to convince all nuclear powers to
publicly promise, 'YES, we will eliminate all our nuclear weapons, if
everyone
else does.' Don't quit until the job is done!"

* Call (202-225-3121) AND write Members of the U.S. House of
Representatives (Washington, DC 20015); ask them to release HR-2545, the
"Nuclear Disarmament and Economic Conversion Act," to the full House of
Representatives for debate and vote.

Please tell the U.S. House of Representatives "Armed  Services" and
"International Relations" Committees  that it's undemocratic to withhold
this important legislation from the rest of their colleagues. (You can
write c/o U.S. House of Representatives, Washington, DC 20515, USA -- or
call via the Congressional switchboard: 202-225-3121 -- or e-mail via our
Lobby Center (http://prop1.org/prop1/letter.htm).)

* Call, write and email President Clinton; ask him to actively endorse
HR-2545. The President's address:

White House, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington DC 20500;
Phone - 202-426--0 (hotline operator); email:
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* Organize a meeting in your area. Print and circulate petitions
(http://prop1.org/prop1/petition.htm); be sure to ask for e-mail addresses;
mail them to us!

* Educate yourself and others! (http://prop1.org/prop1/question.htm)

* Subscribe to NucNews! (http://prop1.org/nucnews/nucnews.htm)

* Submit to your local 

[CTRL] Documentary raises new allegations about Davidian siege (fwd)

1999-09-19 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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From:

http://www.startext.net/news/doc/1047/1:STATE71/1:STATE71091899.html








Updated: Saturday, Sep. 18, 1999 at 22:03 CDT

Documentary raises new allegations about Davidian siege
By Karen Brooks
Star-Telegram Staff Writer

FORT COLLINS, Colo. -- They were
three old high school buddies -- aspiring filmmakers with a
willing investor and the goal of making a compelling movie.

Their documentary, they decided,
would challenge the conspiracy theories surrounding the
government's 1993 standoff with the Branch Davidian sect near
Waco. It would capitalize on the exposure and insight of an
Academy Award- nominated researcher who had made a film about the
siege, whom some considered an expert on the subject.

It would be a quick job -- four
months, tops. And maybe the filmmakers would dig up some new
facts along the way.

"One of my goals was, How much
merit was there to this argument?" said Jason Van Vleet, 28.

That's how Van Vleet, technical
director Aric Johnson and composer Dan Hoeye -- who make up the
majority of the staff at tiny, independent MGA Entertainment --
approached a new movie with Fort Collins researcher Mike McNulty.
McNulty's 1997 documentary, Waco: The Rules of Engagement,
recently earned an Emmy Award for investigative journalism and an
Academy Award nomination for best documentary.

As they researched their
soon-to-be-released documentary, Waco: A New Revelation, they
became lightning rods for the public uproar over the government's
handling of the siege, which ended April 19, 1993, with a fire
that consumed the sect's compound. The bodies of sect leader
David Koresh and at least 80 of his followers, including several
children, were found in the charred ruins.

The film builds on assertions in
the first documentary and responds to critics of the contention
that the government misled the public in its characterization of
the events.

Their findings, based partly on
the Texas Department of Public Safety's stores of physical
evidence from the case, has stirred up a maelstrom on Capitol
Hill and prompted pledges by Congress to investigate the matter.

"We've got a film that's going to
answer questions that you don't even know you should be asking,"
said Van Vleet's father, Rick Van Vleet, who owns the production
company with his son.

None of them are formally trained
investigators, nor are they former federal agents or conspiracy
theorists with an agenda, they say.

McNulty and Jason Van Vleet, who
is directing, producing and helping research the film, were the
first private citizens to gain access to tons of evidence
collected by the DPS and federal investigators at the scene of
the tragedy. Assistant U.S. Attorney Bill Johnston pushed to give
them access to the evidence after McNulty and Van Vleet made
public-information requests for months. Johnston has recused
himself from any part in further investigations.

They have stacks of photographs,
diagrams and documents and more than 400 hours of videotape --
crime scene footage from federal investigators, personal
interviews and surveillance video. They read thousands of pages
of testimony and reviewed 51 days of tapes of recorded
negotiations between the Davidians and federal agents.

They interviewed theologians,
experts on explosives and infrared photography, witnesses,
survivors, former federal employees, attorneys representing the
Branch Davidians, and investigators from federal, state and local
agencies.

McNulty and Van Vleet say they
have sent their findings to people in Washington and requested
interviews, which were declined.

Their findings, some of which
they have turned over to lawmakers pushing for a more thorough
examination of the government's role in the siege, include the
first public hints that Delta Force, an elite anti- terrorist
military unit, may have done more than observe and advise in the
operation.

McNulty alleges that at least six
pyrotechnic "flash-bang" devices were mislabeled as silencers and
gun parts. A recent Texas Ranger review of the evidence mentions
those concerns and states that those items will be kept separate
for further review when all the evidence is cataloged and shipped
to U.S. District Court in Waco, where the Branch Davidians have
filed a wrongful death suit against the government.

ATF officials acknowledged in
congressional hearings that they used two additional devices
during the initial raid Feb. 28, 1993. Ranger officials have

[CTRL] Great Myths of the Great Depression

1999-09-19 Thread M.A. Johnson

 -Caveat Lector-

~~for educational purposes only~~

Great Myths of the Great Depression
by Lawrence W. Reed

Many volumes have been written about the Great Depression
and its impact on the lives of millions of Americans.
Historians, economists, and politicians have all combed
the wreckage searching for the "black box" that will
reveal the cause of this legendary tragedy. Sadly, all
too many of them decide to abandon their search, finding
it easier perhaps to circulate a host of false and
harmful conclusions about the events of seven decades
ago.

How bad was the Great Depression? Over the four years
from 1929 to 1933, production at the nation's factories,
mines, and utilities fell by more than half. People's
real disposable incomes dropped 28 percent. Stock prices
collapsed to one-tenth of their precrash height. The
number of unemployed Americans rose from 1.6 million
in 1929 to 12.8 million in 1933. One of every four
workers was out of a job at the Depression's nadir,
and ugly rumors of revolt simmered for the first time
since the Civil War.

Old myths never die; they just keep showing up in
college economics and political science textbooks.
Students today are frequently taught that unfettered
free enterprise collapsed of its own weight in 1929,
paving the way for a decade-long economic depression
full of hardship and misery. President Herbert Hoover
is presented as an advocate of "handsoff" or
laissez-faire, economic policy, while his successor,
Franklin Roosevelt, is the economic savior whose
policies brought us recovery. This popular account
of the Depression belongs in a book of fairy tales
and not in a serious discussion of economic history,
as a review of the facts demonstrates.


The Great, Great, Great, Great Depression

To properly understand the events of the time, it
is appropriate to view the Great Depression as not
one, but four consecutive depressions rolled into
one. Professor Hans Sennholz has labeled these four
"phases" as follows: the business cycle; the
disintegration of the world economy; the New Deal;
and the Wagner Act. [1]

The first phase explains why the crash of 1929
happened in the first place; the other three show
how government intervention kept the economy in a
stupor for over a decade.


Phase I: The Business Cycle

The Great Depression was not the country's first
depression, though it proved to be the longest.
The common thread woven through the several earlier
debacles was disastrous manipulation of the money
supply by government. For various reasons,
government policies were adopted that ballooned
the quantity of money and credit. A boom resulted,
followed later by a painful day of reckoning. None
of America's depressions prior to 1929, however,
lasted more than four years and most of them were
over in two. The Great Depression lasted for a
dozen years because the government compounded
its monetary errors with a series of harmful
interventions.

Most monetary economists, particularly those of
the "Austrian school," have observed the close
relationship between money supply and economic
activity. When government inflates the money and
credit supply, interest rates at first fall.
Businesses invest this "easy money" in new
production projects and a boom takes place in
capital goods. As the boom matures, business
costs rise, interest rates readjust upward, and
profits are squeezed. The easy-money effects
thus wear off and the monetary authorities,
fearing price inflation, slow the growth of or
even contract the money supply. In either case,
the manipulation is enough to knock out the shaky
supports from underneath the economic house of
cards.

One of the most thorough and meticulously documented
accounts of the Fed's inflationary actions prior
to 1929 is America's Great Depression by the late
Murray Rothbard. Using a broad measure that includes
currency, demand and time deposits, and other
ingredients, Rothbard estimated that the Federal
Reserve expanded the money supply by more than 60
percent from mid 1921 to mid 1929. [2] The flood of
easy money drove interest rates down, pushed the
stock market to dizzy heights, and gave birth to
the "Roaring Twenties."

By early 1929, the Federal Reserve was taking the
punch away from the party. It choked off the money
supply, raised interest rates, and for the next
three years presided over a money supply that
shrank by 30 percent. This deflation following
the inflation wrenched the economy from tremendous
boom to colossal bust.

The "smart" money -- the Bernard Baruchs and the
Joseph Kennedys who watched things like money
supply -- saw that the party was coming to an end
before most other Americans did. Baruch actually
began selling stocks and buying bonds and gold as
early as 1928; Kennedy did likewise, commenting,
"only a fool holds out for the top dollar?" [3]

When the masses of investors eventually sensed the
change in Fed policy, the stampede was underway. The
stock market, after nearly two months of moderate
decline, plunged 

[CTRL] The Mythology of Roosevelt and the New Deal

1999-09-19 Thread M.A. Johnson

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~~for educational purposes only~~

The Mythology of Roosevelt and the New Deal
by Robert Higgs

The Great Depression was a watershed in American
history. Soon after Herbert Hoover assumed the
presidency in 1929, the economy began to decline,
and between 1930 and 1933 the contraction assumed
catastrophic proportions never experienced before
or since in the United States. Disgusted by
Hoover's inability to stem the collapse, in 1932
the voters elected Franklin Delano Roosevelt,
along with a heavily Democratic Congress, and set
in motion the radical restructuring of
government's role in the economy known as the
New Deal.

With few exceptions, historians have taken a
positive view of the New Deal. They have generally
praised such measures as the massive relief
programs for the unemployed; the expanded federal
regulation of agriculture, industry, finance, and
labor relations; the establishment of a legal
minimum wage; and the creation of Social Security
with its oldage pensions, unemployment insurance,
and income supplements for dependent children in
single-parent families, the aged poor, the
physically handicapped, and the blind. In the
construction of the American regulatory and welfare
state, no one looms larger than FDR.

For this accomplishment, along with his wartime
leadership, historians and the general public
alike rank Franklin D. Roosevelt among the greatest
of American presidents.

Roosevelt, it is said repeatedly, restored hope to
the American people when they had fallen into
despair because of the seemingly endless depression,
and his policies "saved capitalism" by mitigating
its intrinsic cruelties and inequalities.

This view of Roosevelt and the New Deal amounts to
a myth compounded of ideological predisposition and
historical misunderstanding. In a 1936 book called
The Menace of Roosevelt and His Policies, Howard E.
Kershner came closer to the truth when he wrote
that Roosevelt took charge of our government when
it was comparatively simple, and for the most part
confined to the essential functions of government,
and transformed it into a highly complex, bungling
agency for throttling business and bedeviling the
private lives of free people. It is no exaggeration
to say that he took the government when it was a
small racket and made a large racket out of it.

As this statement illustrates, not everyone admired
FDR during the 1930s. Although historians have tended
to view Roosevelt's opponents as self-interested
reactionaries, the legions of "Roosevelt haters"
actually had a clearer view of the economic
consequences of the New Deal. The nearly 17 million
men and women who, even in Roosevelt's moment of
supreme triumph in 1936, voted for Alf Landon could
not all have been plutocrats.


Prolonging the Depression

The irony is that even if Roosevelt did help to
lift the spirits of the American people in the
depths of the depression -- an uplift for which no
compelling documentation exists -- this achievement
only led the public to labor under an illusion.
After all, the root cause of the prevailing malaise
was the continuation of the depression. Had the
masses understood that the New Deal was only
prolonging the depression, they would have had
good reason to reject it and its vaunted leader.

In fact, as many observers claimed at the time,
the New Deal did prolong the depression. Had
Roosevelt only kept his inoffensive campaign
promises of 1932 -- cut federal spending, balance
the budget, maintain a sound currency, stop
bureaucratic centralization in Washington -- the
depression might have passed into history before
his next campaign in 1936. But instead, FDR and
Congress, especially during the congressional
sessions of 1933 and 1935, embraced interventionist
policies on a wide front. With its bewildering,
incoherent mass of new expenditures, taxes,
subsidies, regulations, and direct government
participation in productive activities, the New
Deal created so much confusion, fear, uncertainty,
and hostility among businessmen and investors that
private investment, and hence overall private
economic activity, never recovered enough to
restore the high levels of production and
employment enjoyed in the 1920s.

In the face of the interventionist onslaught, the
American economy between 1930 and 1940 failed to
add anything to its capital stock: net private
investment for that elevenyear period totaled
minus $3.1 billion.2 Without capital accumulation,
no economy can grow. Between 1929 and 1939 the
economy sacrificed an entire decade of normal
economic growth, which would have increased
the national income 30 to 40 percent.

The government's own greatly enlarged economic
activity did not compensate for the private
shortfall. Apart from the mere insufficiency of
dollars spent, the government's spending tended,
as contemporary critics aptly noted, to purchase
a high proportion of sheer boondoggle. In the
words of the common-man's poet, Berton Braley,

   A dollar for the services
   A true 

[CTRL] Sheriff's Officers Raid Constitutionalist Meeting

1999-09-19 Thread Dave
Title: 



Dave Hartleyhttp://www.Asheville-Computer.comhttp://www.ioa.com/~davehart
 
Sheriff's Officers RaidConstitutionalist 
Meeting
Pretext for Raid Unconvincing
One might have 
imagined that the stunning raid conducted by nearly forty Fresno police officers 
had been directed at a terrorist group, an illegal drug operation, even a 
gathering of cultists. But what the secret operation descended on was a meeting 
of multi-level marketers ranging from 27 to 83 years of age. Their common 
interest in constitutional subjects and a unique method of distributing that 
information draws them together on a weekly basis in the public meeting area of 
a local shopping mall. The sheriff's office, however, assigned a more sinister 
motive. They charged that the group is an illegal pyramid scheme.
 Blaine Williams, a distributor of Constitutional 
Colleagues' products told The WINDS that "the company sells the highest quality 
video and audio material on the U.S. Constitution 
by by Dr. Cleon Skousen." Williams feels that Americans must understand the 
constitutional heritage that has been granted to them. He says it is critical to 
preserving the inalienable rights granted by God.
 "It was an amazing sight," Williams said. The public 
meeting had been underway approximately fifteen minutes when "the doors were 
banged violently and shortly after that, they yelled that it was the sheriff. 
Law enforcement officers literally poured into the room. It appeared that there 
were as many officers as attendees" to the meeting. Williams, who was speaking 
to the gathering, was arrested immediately.
 Sharon Saunders told The WINDS, "I was shocked. They 
pounded on the door, then stormed into the room from the front and back. I saw 
all these armed men, I didn't know if they were police or what. I was standing 
there in shock." One of the officers approached Saunders, asking her identity. 
She continued, "They didn't say they had a warrant for my arrest, they just 
stood there; but when they put the handcuffs on me, I said, 'Do you have a 
warrant? I'd like to see the warrant."
 "Yes, we have it," they said. "Don't worry about 
that."
 After leading her outside into an alley, the 
officers began questioning Saunders as they rifled through her purse. They 
removed her driver's license, nearly $1,000 in cash and address books from her 
purse, listing this on an evidence sheet as "miscellaneous items from 
purse."
 The bizarre episode continued as Saunders 
waited--hands cuffed tightly behind her back- for approximately two hours in the 
patrol car while officers searched her husband's Explorer. She tells of painful, 
swollen, black-and-blue wrists from the experience.
 Meanwhile, inside the meeting room, the demeaning 
encounter continued as officers interrogated those in attendance.
 Curtis Riley was present at the meeting when the 
officers stormed in. He told The WINDS that deputies required identification 
including name, home address, home telephone number, driver's license number, 
social security number, place of employment, work address and work telephone 
number. Notation was also made of the apparel worn by attendees. The ladies were 
compelled to reveal the contents of their purses and the men to empty their 
pockets; even the elderly grandmothers in their 80's were subjected to 
humiliating body searches.
PEACE OFFICERS?
 From the shopping mall, the spectacle continued as 
the entourage pulled up in front of the Saunders' home. She said the neighbors 
were "freaking out at this scene on the street" as the eight patrol cars parked 
near the residence and she was led, handcuffed, into her home.
 As Saunders, escorted by officers, walked toward her 
front door, she said, "I was grieved. I felt such grief for the people who had 
gone through this in the past--Waco, Ruby Ridge--all of those people. My spirit 
was grieved, I was weeping for all the people who have had their doors knocked 
down, their lives ruined. I told them [the officers], 'My heart goes out to 
these people'. I was so saddened, it just broke my heart." The officers, 
however, were unmoved.
 As the search of the home got under way, Saunders, 
still in handcuffs, sat in the living room with her husband and son under police 
guard. The search was protracted for several hours as officers combed through 
the 3600 square foot home. The search warrants were directed at items specific 
to Constitutional Colleagues, but the officers took particular interest in the 
family's collection of hunting rifles which were photographed and serial numbers 
recorded.
 Mr. Saunders asked the guard, "can you imagine if 
this was happening to your family or your parents, how you would feel?" The 
guard alone responded in a sympathetic manner.
 The other officers' demeanor was callous and 
uncivil. "It was very demeaning," Saunders said, with the officers "pushing you 
around. I felt like a criminal off the street." 
 After a local media blitz which portrayed them as 
scam 

[CTRL] U.N. military training in U.S. - PEACE KEEPING = CIVILIAN CONTROL

1999-09-19 Thread Dave

 -Caveat Lector-

A couple of important quotes from the material below:

OBEDIENCE TO UN FIRST DUTY
There is a principle that underlies declarations and policy emanating
from the United Nations. That principle is spelled out in the book, Peace or
Anarchy by Cord Meyer Jr. of the
*United World Federalists*. "The UN must be given the constitutional
authority to maintain security through laws which call for OBEDIENCE FROM
THE INDIVIDUAL INHABITANTS OF THE WORLD AS THEIR FIRST DUTY and which no
government can override."

PEACE KEEPING = CIVILIAN CONTROL
Military sources stated that the training is designed to provide
realistic training by combining together foreign soldiers alongside U.S.
troops. "Most of these countries don't deal with peace keeping missions."
But "peace keeping is becoming much more prevalent in the world today", said
U.S. Army Sergeant John Hartline. He revealed further what is actually meant
by peace keeping when he stated, "it (peace keeping) is very important
because a lot of the countries are not accustomed to dealing with civil
disturbances and that's exactly what this training is about."



Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart



U.N. COMING INTO FOCUS!
With the precision of a military strike, foreign troops descended on the
Gulf Coast of the United States in late June and early July. As was reported
in a previous WINDS report (see: "Peace Keeping" Armies Train for Global
Control"), albeit the troops came at the invitation of the American
government to be part of Cooperative Nugget '97. This military training
exercise took place at the Joint Readiness Training Center at Ft. Polk,
Louisiana.

The exercise brought together more than 4,000 soldiers from four NATO
countries and eighteen European and Central Asian countries. These non-NATO
countries are members of the United Nations, Partnership for Peace program,
some of which may soon become members of the expanding NATO.

In opening ceremony remarks the Supreme Allied Commander stated that,
"Cooperative Nugget takes place at a decisive time in history," when it will
take not fewer soldiers, but "greater soldiers, who understand what working
together means." He said that it will require the "support of the U.S.
Congress and the average American citizen who understand that the world is
not a safer place to live. We are truly at the beginning of a new millennium
where nations can and must work together." One wonders if the world is not a
safe place because of these "greater soldiers."

PEACE KEEPING = CIVILIAN CONTROL
Military sources stated that the training is designed to provide
realistic training by combining together foreign soldiers alongside U.S.
troops. "Most of these countries don't deal with peace keeping missions."
But "peace keeping is becoming much more prevalent in the world today", said
U.S. Army Sergeant John Hartline. He revealed further what is actually meant
by peace keeping when he stated, "it (peace keeping) is very important
because a lot of the countries are not accustomed to dealing with civil
disturbances and that's exactly what this training is about."

This international collection of military personnel has been assembled
under NATO sponsorship, with UN influence visible throughout. They are said
to have been brought together to "hone their peace keeping skills" and this
joint exercise serves to clarify how NATO and the UN define peace keeping.
The training largely involves military interaction with civilian and
non-military personnel under a variety of conditions.

In a communique released to the press the organizers state, "During
training exercises troops will deal with civilians and the (news) media
through the unique rules of engagement required in these types of
operations." In a series of photographs of the event, the soldiers are shown
to be heavily armed when dealing with the yielding and passive populace. The
photographs also show the techniques and tactics associated with
humanitarian and peace keeping operations, which include a Hungarian soldier
searching a civilian at a UN checkpoint, Lithuanian soldiers searching rooms
for contraband items, a Turkish platoon leader escorting civilians during
patrol training and a Polish soldier searching a civilian's baggage. In
"React to a Civil Disturbance Training", one of 33 tasks in the situational
training exercise, a Latvian soldier detains a civilian whose hands are
raised in a surrender position.

These are the soldiers who will be in charge of the world's next trouble
spot and they are being trained to deal with whatever unfortunate people
fall under their jurisdiction. The sight of these NATO - UN soldiers,
bristling with heavy weaponry as they command and control the civilian
population, is in striking contrast to the friendly and familiar local
police officer who is always on hand to assist those he serves.


DANGEROUSLY MISLEADING MISNOMER
Officials say "there are no 

[CTRL] NWO, UN, quotes

1999-09-19 Thread Dave

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found on the net, at:
http://www.mo-net.com/~nixit/sect1cn.html

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart

President George Bush stated before the U.N. General Assembly on February 1,
1992, "It is to those sacred principles enshrined in the UN Charter that we
must henceforth pledge our allegiance."

President George Bush in his State of the Union Address, January 29, 1991,
said "The world can therefore seize the opportunity (the Persian Gulf
crisis) to fulfill the long held promise of a New World Order where diverse
nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal
aspirations of mankind."

Brent Scowcroft, George Bush's National Security Advisor, said on the eve of
the Gulf War. "A colossal event is upon us, the birth of a New World Order."

President George Bush, September 11, 1990, said, "The Persian Gulf crisis is
a rare opportunity to forge new bonds with old enemies (the Soviet Union)...
Out of these troubled times a New World Order can emerge under a United
Nations that performs as envisioned by its founders."

James P. Warburg, International Financier, "We shall have a world
government, whether or not we like it. The question is only whether world
government will be achieved by consent or by conquest." (James P. Warburg,
member CFR,  International banker in testimony before the Senate Foreign
Relations Committee in 1950.)

Arnold Toynbee, historian, "We are at present working discreetly with all
our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the
clutches of the local nation states of the world. All the time we are
denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands", (1931 speech to the
Institute for the Study of International Affairs at Copenhagen)

H. G. Wells, in his book entitled The New World Order (1939) wrote, "...
when the struggle seems to be drifting definitely towards a world social
democracy, there may still be very great delays and disappointments before
it becomes an efficient and beneficent world system. Countless people - will
hate the new world order - and will die protesting against it. When we
attempt to evaluate its promise, we have to bear in mind the distress of a
generation or so of malcontents, many of them quite gallant and
graceful-looking people."

Pope John Paul II said, "By the end of this decade (2000 AD) we will live
under the first One World Government that has ever existed in the society of
nations ... a government with absolute authority to decide the basic issues
of human survival. One world government is inevitable." (Quoted by Malachi
Martin in the book "The Keys of This Blood.)

Willy Brandt, former West German Chancellor, former chairman of the
Fifth-Socialist International, chairman of the Brandt Commission in the late
1980s, said, "The New World Order is a world that has a supernational
authority to regulate world commerce and industry; an international
organization that would control the production and consumption of oil; an
international currency that would replace the dollar; a World Development
Fund that would make funds available to free and Communist nations alike;
and an international police force to enforce the edicts of the New World
Order."

Mikhail Gorbachev, in an address at the United Nations, December 1988, said,
"Further global progress is now possible only through a quest for universal
consensus in the movement towards a New World Order."

Cord Meyer, Jr., of the United World Federalists, spelled out in his book,
Peace or Anarchy a vital principle, "The UN must be given the constitutional
authority to maintain security through laws which call for obedience from
the individual inhabitants of the world as their first duty and which no
government can override."

President Jimmy Carter's National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski,
said, "...This regionalization is in keeping with the Trilateral Plan which
calls for a gradual convergence of East and West, ultimately leading toward
the goal of "one world government'. ...National sovereignty is no longer a
viable concept..."

Vice President Al Gore appeared hours after U.S. planes enforcing an allied
'no fly' zone over northern Iraq accidentally shot down two U.S.
helicopters, killing 15 Americans and 11 foreign officials. 'I want to
extend condolences,' Gore said, 'to the families of those who died in the
service of the United Nations.'" (Los Angeles Times, 6/12/94)

Kofi Annan said in 1992, while Assistant to the Secretary-General,
"Sometimes you have to say 'damn sovereignty.' That issue what should be the
international response to ethnic and other disputes is going to be the issue
of the 1990's. What matters are really internal to a country? How do you
define what really threatens international security?"

President John Kennedy proposed that we reduce our national armies to a
national police force, and allow the only large army in the world to be that
of the United Nations. (State Department 

[CTRL] FW: Biotechnology companies face internet foe

1999-09-19 Thread Dave

 -Caveat Lector-

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


Another positive score to the "Rag-Tag" coalition.  Notice the reporter's
implication that the Deutschebank report was noised around by an Idaho
consultant Charles Benbrook, (the former director of the Board on
Agriculture at the National Academy of Sciences.) But the spreading is
actually done by thousands - some of them  "unlikely suspects" to whom
thanks is also due.

==
St. Louis Post-Dispatch: Sunday, September 19, 1999 | 6:41 a.m.

Biotechnology companies face new foe: the Internet

By Bill Lambrecht


WASHINGTON - Analysts at Deutsche Bank in Germany came up with some grim
conclusions this summer about the financial prospects for genetically
modified crops, saying companies such as Monsanto were losing battle after
battle.

A few years ago, the German report never would have traveled outside the
rarefied air of global investors. But that was before the World Wide Web.

This month, a consultant in Idaho arranged for the bank analysis to be
posted on the Web, and in three days, thousands of people had downloaded
the 25-page report and further disseminated it around the globe. Critics,
farmers and people still making up their minds about the new technology
had a new piece of information.

The Internet is enabling mobilization like never before and, in the
process, giving biotechnology companies fits.

In recent months, St. Louis-based Monsanto Co. and its rivals in the new
science of genetically engineering food have watched in dismay as pockets
of protest have mushroomed. Europe and Japan are demanding the labeling of
modified foods. A trade war is brewing between the United States and
Europe. American farmers are wondering whether to continue sowing tens of
millions of acres with gene-altered seeds.

What is behind the recent developments? More people, especially Europeans,
are raising questions about environmental safety, potential health effects
and the power of the companies to determine the nature of food.

But perhaps no single factor looms larger in biotechnology's tumble than
the role of the Internet. The Web has given critics and skeptics the arena
to post studies, opinions and vitriol for the world to consume. E-mail and
listserves -- electronic mailing lists -- enable activists to work with
one another and to exchange scraps of information instantly. All the
activity leaves the impression, real or imagined, of a vibrant global
movement.

The "life science" companies and biotechnology devotees use the Internet,
too, and in time they hope that it will play a key role in convincing the
world that biotechnology can yield food that is not only safe, but better.

But as it stands, one powerful new technology may be functioning to stem
the growth of another powerful new technology.

The Idaho consultant who distributed the German report, Charles Benbrook,
contends that people who had misgivings in the past about farm and food
policies had no means to link up and reinforce their beliefs. The Internet
has changed all that.

"Activists can transfer fresh and important information around the world
with speed and ease," Benbrook said. "And that's something we've never
experienced before."

Changing policy

Until last year, the most public responses received by the Department of
Agriculture on a new rule was 7,000. Then Agriculture Secretary Dan
Glickman asked Americans to tell him what they thought of a new organic
foods policy that would let food that was genetically engineered,
irradiated or fertilized with sludge carry the government's new "organic"
label.

More than 250,000 people responded, mostly by e-mail, and the vast
majority said it was a terrible idea. Under the nearly completed rules,
genetically engineered food in the United States won't be labeled as
organic.

The Internet is becoming an important factor in politics and public policy
debates on a host of issues. Until recently, interest groups usually
consisted of associations with national memberships and slick magazines.
Now, with the Internet, people can mobilize and pressure governments with
the push of a button.

"It changes the presumptions of representative democracy," said Phil
Noble, a political consultant and founder of PoliticsOnline. "I think the
Internet is going to do for public policy what the telephone did for
lobbying."

People can be mobilized, too, in ways that don't give a true picture of
public sentiment.

"In literally a matter of hours, I can create an interest group of tens of
thousands on whatever my issue is right now, and mobilize them to send
mail, e-mail or even rotten eggs," Noble said.

Political scientist Michael Cornfield of George Washington University said
"cyberlobbying" soon will dominate grass-roots organizing because of its
speed and low cost.

"It won't level the playing field between those who don't buy access and
those who do, but it will make it easier for people to be involved in

[CTRL] FEMA - THE U.S. SHADOW GOVERNMENT

1999-09-19 Thread Dave
Title: 



Dave Hartleyhttp://www.Asheville-Computer.comhttp://www.ioa.com/~davehart
FEMA - THE U.S. "SHADOW 
GOVERNMENT"



Check out our "Planned U.S. 
Concentration Camp Program" Web page.
Check out our "Use Of U.S. 
Troops Against Civilians" Web page.
Read this astonishing 
documentation of the President's powers to declare martial 
law.



More on our old friends at FEMA, those menacing Executive 
Orders, and the coming "National Emergency." 
Aren't you glad that the power to declare "National Emergencies" or to 
declare that individuals or groups are "terrorists" rests solely in President 
Clinton's wise and selfless hands? 



Forwarded message:From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (j. 
hrubesky) 
Few Americans--indeed, few Congressional reps--are aware of the existence of 
Mount Weather, a mysterious underground military base carved deep inside a 
mountain near the sleepy rural town of Bluemont, Virginia, just 46 miles from 
Washington DC. Mount Weather--also known as the Western Virginia Office of 
Controlled Conflict Operations--is buried not just in hard granite, but in 
secrecy as well. 
In March, 1976, The Progressive Magazine published an 
astonishing article entitled "The Mysterious Mountain." The 
author, Richard Pollock, based his investigative report on Senate subcommittee 
hearings and upon "several off-the-record interviews with officials formerly 
associated with Mount Weather." His report, and a 1991 article in Time 
Magazine entitled "Doomsday Hideaway", supply a few 
compelling hints about what is going on underground. 
Ted Gup, writing for Time, describes the base as follows: 

Mount 
Weather is a virtually self-contained facility. Aboveground, scattered across 
manicured lawns, are about a dozen buildings bristling with antennas and 
microwave relay systems. An on-site sewage-treatment plant, with a 90,000 
gal.-a-day capacity, and two tanks holding 250,000 gal. of water could last some 
200 people more than a month; underground ponds hold additional water supplies. 
Not far from the installation's entry gate are a control tower and a helicopter 
pad. The mountain's real secrets are not visible at ground level. 

The mountain's "real secrets" are protected by warning signs, 
10 foot-high chain link fences, razor wire, and armed guards. Curious motorists 
and hikers on the Appalachian trail are relieved of their sketching pads and 
cameras and sent on their way. Security is tight. 
The government has owned the site since 1903; it has seen service as an 
artillery range, a hobo farm during the Depression, and a National Weather 
Bureau Facility. In 1936, the U.S. Bureau of Mines took control and started 
digging. 
Mount Weather is virtually an underground city, according to former personnel 
interviewed by Pollock. Buried deep inside the earth, Mount Weather was equipped 
with such amenities as: 

  private 
  apartments and dormitories 
  streets 
  and sidewalks 
  cafeterias 
  and hospitals 
  a 
  water purification system, power plant and general office buildings 
  
  a 
  small lake fed by fresh water from underground springs 
  its 
  own mass transit system 
  a 
  TV communication system 
Mount Weather is the self-sustaining underground command 
center for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). The facility is the 
operational center--the hub--of approximately 100 other Federal Relocation 
Centers, most of which are concentrated in Pennsylvania, West Virginia, 
Virginia, Maryland and North Carolina. Together this network of underground 
facilities constitutes the backbone of America's "Continuity of 
Government" program. In the event of nuclear war, declaration of martial law, or other 
national emergency, the President, his cabinet and the rest of the Executive 
Branch would be "relocated" to Mount Weather. 
What Does Congress Know about Mount Weather?
According to the Senate Subcommittee on 
Constitutional Rights hearings in 1975, Congress has almost no 
knowledge and no oversight --budgetary or otherwise--on Mount Weather. Retired 
Air Force General Leslie W. Bray, in his testimony to the subcommittee, said "I 
am not at liberty to describe precisely what is the role and the mission and the 
capability that we have at Mount Weather, or at any other precise location." 

Apparently, this underground capital of the United States is a secret only to 
Congress and the US taxpayers who paid for it. The Russians know about it, as 
reported in Time: 
"Few 
in the U.S. government will speak of it, though it is assumed that all along the 
Soviets have known both its precise location and its mission (unlike the 
Congress, since Bray wouldn't tell); defense experts take it as a given that the 
site is on the Kremlin's targeting maps." 
The Russians attempted to buy real estate right next door, as 
a "country estate" for their embassy folks, but that deal was dead-ended by the 
State Department. 
Mount Weather's "Government-in-Waiting"
Pollock's report, based on his interviews with 

[CTRL] FW: Very Worthwhile reading - Essene Information!!!

1999-09-19 Thread Dave

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forwarded by a friend

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 3:31 PM
To: Anahata Iradah; Anahita Murad (Barbara Gantt); Angelica; Chris
Mentzel; Daniel Skinner; David Hartley; Devaki;
Subject: Very Worthwhile reading - Essene Information!!!


Subject: Essene Information

   We create vibratory possibilities about what we want to create in our
world. When thought, feeling, and emotion become as One we reach our highest
potential. Since feeling is electromagnetic charges moving across cell walls
in our bodies, we are effectively moving energy throughout our bodies, as
well as outside of our bodies. We have 1.17volts of electrical potential in
each of the cells in our bodies. This is the God energy within each of our
cells - our power potential.
We experience IN our bodies BEFORE the event is experienced externally.
This means: WE ARE and WE DO CREATE OUR REALITY.
 The Essenes created an equation to move energy throughout our bodies.
It can be defined as a "lost mode of prayer", unlike prayer as we know it.
This information was 'tossed aside', thrown away by early Christians, namely
Constantine and his council, in the year 325AD.Basically, what was left to
pass on to later generations were the empty rituals.
   It is not the ritual that 'makes it happen'. The ritual is but the
expression that sets the tone for your prayer. Behind each prayer is a
thought form. For example: a person may pray for more money. What is the
thought behind this prayer? It is," I don't have enough money. I live in
scarcity, I need more."  Therefore, instead of receiving more money, this
person will indeed live in scarcity because that is the thought that went
out into consciousness and became real.
  If we had had all of the information extracted from the scriptures, we
may have learned to tune into the Earth's vibration and worked with it
instead of inventing internal combustion, etc. that works against the
Earth's vibration. Amazingly, we have come quite a long way without this
information. We have found it along the way, although we are not all using
these methods - yet.
  The Essenes lived by these four tenants:
1. Only One of us is here. This is a holographic consciousness, a pattern
whole and complete unto itself which is part of a larger pattern, and on and
on into infinity. Each time an individual chooses a new option this person
becomes a bridge. They have created a new way which changes the hologram of
human consciousness.
2. The Unity consciousness is moving collectively toward this rare moment in
history. We have lived in polarity, duality. Each time one person chooses to
move out of this pattern, the consciousness changes.
3. We have direct access to the Creative Forces of this world. This is the
Essene mode of Prayer. See it, say it, and it is done. You directly access
creation, you create.
4. We have access to a 'secret science'. It is the Science of Compassion,
the most ancient of sciences that allows us to gracefully transcend the
greatest challenges of our lives with grace.
 The Essenes taught, and this is correlated by Tibetan monks, the
world's record keepers, that you must embody the thought, feeling, emotion
and knowing that IT IS DONE AND IT IS TRUE. "It is done."  We have heard
"Ask and you shall receive~ Ask and it will be given you."
The actual translation from the Aramaic is:
Ask without hidden motive and be surrounded by your answer." (Ask and see it
done.) The asking perpetuates the event.
Instead of asking for peace in our world, give thanks for the peace
in the world and change the world paradigm.
   This is the time of no time. We are creating it at this moment. The
Tibetans see nothing beyond the Kali Yoga because it is being invented by us
as we live it. This is a very different time than our past times. The Essene
information matches with the Tibetan information, which matches with the
Mayan information and the Hopi. We've heard it used in many contexts, but
this truly is what the New Age means.
 The "secret" of the Essenes was "PEACE". The Masters taught that you
could 'move the mountain' if you aligned yourself, and therefore your world,
in a vibratory template. You can invision this as three circles, one on top
of the other. The circles from top to bottom were: thought, feelings, and
emotions. ( They coupled emotions with the physical - the body.) When all
three are aligned and mirror each other, you are in your optimum truth and
your full power. You dishonor Self if you say one thing and feel another,
you have shifted out of alignment with your pure potential.
 The Essenes asked: "How do we create a unified pattern in thought,
word, emotion and feeling in alignment?"
 1. Find peace in body/emotions.
 2. Seek peace in feelings. Call in Love to purify.
 3. Seek peace in 

[CTRL] CND chief was Stasi secret agent

1999-09-19 Thread Taylor, John (JH)

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SSUE 1577 Sunday 19 September 1999
 Electronic Telegraph


  CND chief was Stasi secret agent
By Andrew Alderson and David Bamber








Professor Victor Allen
A UNIVERSITY professor who was on the national council of the Campaign for
Nuclear Disarmament was a communist agent, The Telegraph reveals today.
Vic Allen, a retired professor of economics at Leeds University, passed
confidential information about CND to East German intelligence officers and
manipulated the peace movement into taking a Soviet-friendly line.

According to secret files compiled by the Stasi, the East German secret
police, Mr Allen provided information on CND leaders and activists for
several years during the Eighties and visited the East German Embassy in
London. In 1985, he unsuccessfully attempted to succeed Joan Ruddock as the
chairman of CND, which then had 400,000 members.

The Telegraph has learnt that MI5 had a file on Mr Allen, 77, but it is not
known if the security service was fully aware of his activities. He has
admitted being an informer but denies betraying his country, acting
illegally or receiving payments. He said: "I feel no regrets."

Security experts said Mr Allen, who lives in Keighley, West Yorks, would
have been regarded as an "agent of influence" by the Stasi. He is the fourth
Communist asset to be unmasked within the past nine days - causing
embarrassment to the security services and the Government.

Robin Pearson, a lecturer at Hull University, was named as a Stasi spy on
Friday. The Home Office said yesterday that although he was interviewed by
MI5 in 1994, it was decided not to prosecute him as there was no "usable
evidence".

Yesterday, Ann Widdecombe, the shadow home secretary, demanded that the
Government disclose details of all alleged communist spies. She said: "What
I want Jack Straw to do is to stop what is now happening, which is that we
are only finding out about these things through press revelations."

CND, formed in 1958, said it was "appalling and disgusting" that Mr Allen
fed information on its members to the East Germans. A spokesman said: "It is
deeply concerning that anybody should be passing on information on our
members. We were used to being targeted by MI5 and the Ministry of Defence,
but now we find that former Soviet states were after information on us."

Mr Allen, who packed CND meetings with Soviet sympathisers, aimed to promote
Moscow's unilateral cause within the organisation, urging that Britain alone
disarm its nuclear weapons. Rival factions wanted the Kremlin to disarm too.

In an interview with BBC2's The Spying Game to be broadcast next month, Mr
Allen admits that he provided information to East Germany. He said: "It was
perfectly legitimate that I should do that as the faction I belonged to was
the pro-Soviet faction, the pro-GDR faction . . . I have no shame. I feel no
regrets about that at all. My only regret is that we didn't succeed and in
the end we lost our influence in CND."

A senior adviser to the Home Secretary said Mr Straw would not agree to Miss
Widdecombe's demand to issue a list of names of those suspected of
treachery. He said: "Hundreds of people have been investigated over the
years and it would bring their identities into the public domain. We don't
know who the press is going to name

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Weekly Analysis Septemer 20, 1999

World Bank Reverses Position on Financial Controls and on Malaysia


Summary:

The World Bank reversed its opposition to short-term
capital controls and announced that Malaysia's experiment with
capital controls was, in effect, a success. Since the World Bank
acts on the distilled essence of conventional wisdom, this means
that the international financial community no longer regards either
capital control or Malaysia's prime minister as taboo.

The most important short-term consequence of this change will be on
Japan, which has toyed with the idea of capital controls.  But more
importantly in the long run, the rehabilitation of Mahathir from
lunatic to visionary will bring his other ideas into play.  Of
particular importance is his idea of a regional Asian bloc
excluding the United States, based on the yen and Japan, with
capital controls as a regional management tool.  Neither of these
outcomes is intended by the World Bank or the IMF, but both are the
embodiment of the unintended consequence.


Analysis:

The World Bank has executed an important and somewhat startling
reversal of position on Malaysia's use of capital controls to solve
its economic problems.  Joseph Stiglitz, the World Bank's chief
economist, said Sept. 15, "There has been a fundamental change in
mindset on the issue of short-term capital flows and these kind of
interventions - a change in the mind set that began two years ago."
He went on to say that "in the context of Malaysia and the quick
recovery in Malaysia, the fact that the adverse effects that were
predicted - some might say that some people wished upon Malaysia -
did not occur is also and important lesson."

These were not casual remarks.  They were made during the
presentation of a key World Bank annual document, the "World
Development Review," and were meant to be taken seriously.  Indeed,
Stiglitz's comments came a week after the International Monetary
Fund (IMF) praised Malaysia for its skillful handling of capital
controls.

These comments represent a fundamental shift in the international
economic establishment's understanding of how that system works.
The economists at the World Bank and the IMF are not particularly
original or imaginative, and their track record in predicting and
managing the twists and turns of the international system is not,
to say the least, impressive.  Thus, viewing their policy shifts as
contributions to economic theory is not particularly useful.
Stiglitz and his colleagues at the World Bank and the IMF are not
people who go out on the limb with dramatically novel idea.  They
like to move with the herd.

That is what makes Stiglitz's statement extraordinarily important.
It shows that the herd is making one of its periodic migrations.
The World Bank's chief economist doesn't lead the convention.  He
is a superbly sensitive weather vane - he follows it.

During the 1960s and 1970s, the World Bank was committed to
massive, government-run infrastructure projects, reflecting the
conventional economic wisdom at the time that the state is the
appropriate engine for economic growth, at least in the developing
world. During the 1980s, when the conventional system shifted to
the view that the free market was the most efficient means of
capital allocation and economic growth, the World Bank slowly and
painfully shifted again.  They stuck with the free market position
throughout the Asian meltdown.

Now, two years after the bloodbath, they are slowly shifting again,
not only endorsing capital controls, but praising their own arch-
nemesis, Malaysia's Mahathir. Stiglitz is following the new
conventional wisdom: capital controls are chic.

Whether capital controls are good or bad doesn't really matter.
What matters is that they have been accepted by a highly
politicized, extremely powerful segment of the international
community that the World Bank/IMF complex is part of and serves.
This is the international financial community, understood as the
national bankers, the leading international banks and the political
elites to which they connect.

Stiglitz's comments reveal that the 20-year love affair with a
purely free market approach to international financial flows is, if
not coming to an end, nevertheless being severely modified.  There
are now cases 

[CTRL] Fwd: [net-alert] Net-Alert Volume 2, Issue 4

1999-09-19 Thread Kris Millegan





From: Mark Neely [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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20 September, 1999

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Subscription and unsubscription details are available at the end of this
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Contents:

## Cholera the next viral outbreak
## Reach out and bug someone
## Windows backdoors and the NSA
## HERF guns: fact or fiction?
## When Harry allegedly met Sally
## Cyberstalking no laughing matter
## Data loss in perspective
## More Microsoft hoaxes
## Send a copy of Net-Alert to a friend.


Cholera the next viral outbreak

Following in the footsteps of the Melissa macro virus is the
Cholera virus. Although, unlike Melissa, it relies on an
executable program ("setup.exe") to cause infections, it
propagates in much the same way. Once your system is infected,
the virus scans your hard disk for email addresses that it can
send copies of itself to. The unsuspecting recipient receives a
short email containing only a smiley face ":)" with an attachment
(setup.exe).


Reach out and bug someone

Mobile phones are becoming such an essential business - and
lifestyle - tool that they rarely register on our reality
perceptors. Like traditional telephones, mobile phones are
practically ubiquitous and no one would question their presence
in an office or business environment.

But that may soon change.

Newer models now incorporate several interesting features that
can be put to uses unanticipated by their inventors.

For instance, many models now offer a completely silent mode of
operation - no beeping or ringing when there is an incoming call
or message. Others can be configured to automatically answer
incoming calls - handy for taking hands-free calls while driving.

But the combination of these features can transform the humble
mobile telephone into a remote-controlled bugging device.

Want to know what your colleagues talk about when you leave a
meeting to make some photocopies? Leave your mobile phone behind
and call it from reception. When it automatically and silently
answers the call, it will broadcast the conversation in the
meeting room back to you. Thanks to increasingly longer standby
battery life, you could even discretely place the mobile phone in
a meeting room days or hours before it is scheduled to take
place.

If this worries you, then you probably don't want to know how
mobile phones could also be used to track someone's location
(while, of course, bugging them).

Lauren Weinstein, moderator of the Privacy Forum, covered these
risks and others in a recent article.

URLs:

Privacy Forum Web site
   http://www.vortex.com/privacy

Article - Cell Phones Become Instant Bugs!
   http://www.vortex.com/privacy/priv.08.11


Windows backdoors and the NSA

There has been considerable news coverage recently concerning
allegations that Microsoft Corp. deliberately inserted code into
their Windows 2000 operating system that would allow the US
National Security Agency (NSA) unregulated access to computers
using that operating system.

While such allegations make for interesting stories, to date no
conclusive proof has been offered that such a backdoor(s) exist.
However, you can bet that a number of researchers are now
looking.


HERF guns: fact or fiction?

HERF (High Energy Radio Frequency) guns - weapons that use radio
frequencies to "kill" computer systems by disrupting their
internal hardware components - have been well documented, in
conceptual terms at least, for some time.

In the battlefield of the future, computer systems, not soldiers
or weaponry, are likely to be the deciding factor in victory.
Computer systems will aid battlefield communications and
logistics, suggest tactics and keep track of friends and foe.

This has led many strategists to speculate that the next arms
race won't involve building nuclear or biological missiles, but
rather designing weaponry that can "nuke" computer systems.

Why send in troops to take over and then disable an enemy's
telecommunications infrastructure, for example, if you can stay
at home and simply lob a missile that will do the same thing?

It appears that the race has well and truly begun.

David Schriner, an ex- US Navy engineer, successfully
demonstrated a machine that crashed two computers at a recent
InfowarCon '99 conference.

URL:

ZD Net article
   http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2331772,00.html


When Harry allegedly met Sally

Computer mediated communications, such as IRC and Web-based
chats, offer participants the chance to escape from the mundane
reality of their daily lives and enter the realm of fiction and
facade.

Ordinarily this is harmless