emacs: autocompletar noms de host amb TRAMP

2008-01-19 Thread Jordi Funollet
Benvolguts emacseros de la llista,

Aquest Nadal els reis mags em van dur la possibilitat d'editar fitxers remots 
amb Emacs(22), gràcies al TRAMP [1] (que un servidor desconeixia). Tot i que 
completa com un Pepe els noms de fitxers remots, no he aconseguit que em 
completi els noms de host.

Curiosament, si executo les funcions de compleció a mà retornen valors la mar 
de raonables.

 (tramp-get-completion-function ssh)
  = ((tramp-parse-shosts ~/.ssh/known_hosts)
   (tramp-parse-sconfig ~/.ssh/config)) 

 (tramp-parse-shosts ~/.ssh/known_hosts)
  = ((nil 193.145.55.6) (nil iua-data.upf.es) (nil 66.249.30.97) 
  (nil graff.terraquis.net) (nil ) (nil 10.80.54.11) 
  (nil jordif.ca.upf.edu) (nil 193.145.55.11) 
  (nil alai.upf.es) (nil 193.145.55.17) (nil iua-share.upf.es)
  (nil 193.145.55.3) ...)   

A algú se li acud què puc fer per disfrutar plenament de la meva joguina nova?


[1]: http://www.gnu.org/software/tramp/
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upgrade libsane-extra debian testing

2008-01-19 Thread debianpmd
j'ai un problème en upgradant libsane-extra ce jour sur debian testing.

Dépaquetage de libsane-extras (à partir 
de .../libsane-extras_1.0.18.16_i386.deb) ...
dpkg : erreur de traitement 
de /var/cache/apt/archives/libsane-extras_1.0.18.16_i386.deb (--unpack) :
 tentative de remplacement de « /usr/share/man/man5/sane-epkowa.5.gz », qui 
appartient aussi au paquet iscan
dpkg-deb: sous-processus paste tué par le signal (Relais brisé (pipe))
Des erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution :
 /var/cache/apt/archives/libsane-extras_1.0.18.16_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Avez vous le même problème ?

pmd



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au secours vlc ne fonctionne plus.

2008-01-19 Thread dPailler

Bonjour à tous,

Depuis ce matin vlc ne fonctionne plus, j'ai le message suivant quand je 
le lance:


~$ vlc

VLC media player 0.8.6a Janus
The program '.' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
 (Details: serial 496 error_code 11 request_code 146 minor_code 5)
 (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
  that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
  To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
  option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
  backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() 
function.)



Quelqu'un porrait-il m'aider ?

Je ne vois pas ce que j'ai fait pour que cel ne fonctinne plus


Cordialement


David Pailler


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Re: au secours vlc ne fonctionne plus.

2008-01-19 Thread Yannick Palanque
2008-01-19T13:10:11+0100, dPailler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Bonjour à tous,
 
 Depuis ce matin vlc ne fonctionne plus, j'ai le message suivant quand
 je le lance:
 
 ~$ vlc
 
 VLC media player 0.8.6a Janus
 The program '.' received an X Window System error.
 This probably reflects a bug in the program.
 The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
   (Details: serial 496 error_code 11 request_code 146 minor_code 5)
   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported
 asynchronously; that is, you will receive the error a while after
 causing it. To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() 
 function.)
 
 
 Quelqu'un porrait-il m'aider ?
 
 Je ne vois pas ce que j'ai fait pour que cel ne fonctinne plus

Cf. le fil qui date d'hier :
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/2008/01/msg00602.html

La dernière mise à jour de xorg-server a corrigé le soucis.



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Re: IPv6 et DNS

2008-01-19 Thread mpg
Le (on) samedi 19 janvier 2008 02:00, mouss a écrit (wrote) :

 mpg wrote:
 Tiens, je ne savais pas pour les DNS IPv6 chez free. Ou peut-on trouver
 plus d'infos à ce sujet ? Gougueule ne m'a pas vraiment aidé sur ce
 point...

 tu parles du DNS ou de l'adressage?

Je parle des DNS : sinon j'aurais dit, tiens, je ne savais pas pour
l'adressage ;-)
 
 pour le DNS, il n'y a rien à faire. tu testes ta config en faisant
 # host itojun.org
 
 et dans la réponse il doit y avoir une IPv6.
 
Non. Comme l'a déjà expliqué un autre contributeur de la liste (flemme de
rechercher), ça n'a rien à voir : ton pécé peut tout à fait avoir une
simple pile IPv4, et parler avec un DNS dans le même cas, tout en ayant
accès aux champs  renseignés dans ce DNS. Croire le contraire revient à
croire qu'on ne peut pas échanger des mails contenant le mot IPv6 sur un
réseau IPv4 !  

Bref, je ne savais pas que free fournissait des serveurs DNS accessibles en
IPv6, et juste par curiosité, j'aimerais bien en lire plus sur le sujet
(les IP des machines par exemple)...

Manuel.


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ATTENTION: MISE À JOUR XSERVER-XORG-CORE BUGGÉ

2008-01-19 Thread dPailler
Depuis ce matin je n'accédé plus à vlc, c'est du à la dernière mise à 
jour : 2:1.1.1-21etch2


pour réglé le pb:

dans synaptic: paquet --- forcer la version 2:1.1.1-21etch1

et redémarrage du serveurX


cordialement



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Re: au secours vlc ne fonctionne plus.

2008-01-19 Thread Philippe
Le samedi 19 janvier 2008 à 13:12 +0100, Yannick Palanque a écrit :
sur mes 2 ordis avec MAJ de xserver-xorg d'hier VLC ne foctionne
toujours plus.
 2008-01-19T13:10:11+0100, dPailler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Bonjour à tous,
  
  Depuis ce matin vlc ne fonctionne plus, j'ai le message suivant quand
  je le lance:
  
  ~$ vlc
  
  VLC media player 0.8.6a Janus
  The program '.' received an X Window System error.
  This probably reflects a bug in the program.
  The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
(Details: serial 496 error_code 11 request_code 146 minor_code 5)
(Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported
  asynchronously; that is, you will receive the error a while after
  causing it. To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
 option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
 backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() 
  function.)
  
  
  Quelqu'un porrait-il m'aider ?
  
  Je ne vois pas ce que j'ai fait pour que cel ne fonctinne plus
 
 Cf. le fil qui date d'hier :
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/2008/01/msg00602.html
 
 La dernière mise à jour de xorg-server a corrigé le soucis.
 
 
 
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Re: IPv6 et DNS

2008-01-19 Thread Pascal Hambourg

mpg a écrit :


Tiens, je ne savais pas pour les DNS IPv6 chez free. Ou peut-on trouver plus
d'infos à ce sujet ? Gougueule ne m'a pas vraiment aidé sur ce point...


On en a parlé dans les forums de discussion de Free, proxad.free.*. Le 
communiqué de Free dit que les annonces RA émises par la Freebox 
contiennent non seulement le préfixe IPv6 qui sert à l'autoconfiguration 
sans état mais aussi une option RDNSS (cf. RFC 5006) avec les adresses 
IPv6 des deux serveurs DNS. Mais cette option étant récente, il faut 
avoir un noyau Linux 2.6.24 (actuellement en -rc8, bietôt publié en 
stable) au minimum ou bien patché ainsi qu'un démon rdnssd pour que 
cette option soit prise en compte (cf. http://rdnssd.linkfanel.net/ 
pour le patch et le démon). En attendant, le plus simple est de les 
mettre en dur dans /etc/resolv.conf : 2a01:5d8:e0ff::1 et 2a01:5d8:e0ff::2.



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Re: ATTENTION: MISE À JOUR XSERVER-XORG-CORE BUGGÉ

2008-01-19 Thread Klaus Becker
Am Samstag, 19. Januar 2008 13:28 schrieb dPailler:
 Depuis ce matin je n'accédé plus à vlc, c'est du à la dernière mise à
 jour : 2:1.1.1-21etch2

Salut,

je m'étonne de ta version, j'ai sous Etch AMD64 :

$ apt-cache policy vlc
vlc:
  Installé : 0.8.6.a.debian-6~1
  Candidat : 0.8.6.a.debian-6~1
 Table de version :
 *** 0.8.6.a.debian-6~1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-5etch1 0
500 http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages
500 http://ftp.debian.org stable/main Packages

ciao
Klaus


 pour réglé le pb:

 dans synaptic: paquet --- forcer la version 2:1.1.1-21etch1

 et redémarrage du serveurX


 cordialement



vlc ne fonctionne plus aussi

2008-01-19 Thread Philippe
bonjour,
malgré la MAJ hier de xserver-xorg vlc ne fonctionne plus sur mes
ordis .
avec celui-ci voici la réponse
VLC media player 0.8.6a Janus
The program '.' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
  (Details: serial 496 error_code 11 request_code 144 minor_code 5)
  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error()
function.)
meci pour toute explication



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Re: ATTENTION: MISE À JOUR XSERVER-XORG-COR E BUGGÉ

2008-01-19 Thread Jean Baptiste FAVRE
J'ai oublié la référence:
DSA-1466-2
@+
JB

Jean Baptiste FAVRE a écrit :
 Il veut parler de la version de xorg. La dernière mise à jour provoque
 une régression.
 JB
 
 
 Klaus Becker a écrit :
 Am Samstag, 19. Januar 2008 13:28 schrieb dPailler:
 Depuis ce matin je n'accédé plus à vlc, c'est du à la dernière mise à
 jour : 2:1.1.1-21etch2
 Salut,

 je m'étonne de ta version, j'ai sous Etch AMD64 :

 $ apt-cache policy vlc
 vlc:
   Installé : 0.8.6.a.debian-6~1
   Candidat : 0.8.6.a.debian-6~1
  Table de version :
  *** 0.8.6.a.debian-6~1 0
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
  0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-5etch1 0
 500 http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages
 500 http://ftp.debian.org stable/main Packages

 ciao
 Klaus

 pour réglé le pb:

 dans synaptic: paquet --- forcer la version 2:1.1.1-21etch1

 et redémarrage du serveurX


 cordialement


 
 


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Re: upgrade libsane-extra debian testing

2008-01-19 Thread David Prévot
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debianpmd a écrit :
 j'ai un problème en upgradant libsane-extra ce jour sur debian testing.
[...]
  tentative de remplacement de « /usr/share/man/man5/sane-epkowa.5.gz », qui 
 appartient aussi au paquet iscan
[...]
 Avez vous le même problème ?

iscan n'etant pas pas un paquet debian officiel, il doit entrer en
conflit avec libsane-extra, ne reste plus qu'à le patcher...

D'un autre côté, si tu as installé iscan pour bénéficier du pilote
epokwa qui semble maintenant inclus dans libsane-extra, tu peux
peut-être simplement virer iscan.

Amicalement

David

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Re: ATTENTION: MISE À JOUR XSERVER-XORG-COR E BUGGÉ

2008-01-19 Thread Jean Baptiste FAVRE
Il veut parler de la version de xorg. La dernière mise à jour provoque
une régression.
JB


Klaus Becker a écrit :
 Am Samstag, 19. Januar 2008 13:28 schrieb dPailler:
 Depuis ce matin je n'accédé plus à vlc, c'est du à la dernière mise à
 jour : 2:1.1.1-21etch2
 
 Salut,
 
 je m'étonne de ta version, j'ai sous Etch AMD64 :
 
 $ apt-cache policy vlc
 vlc:
   Installé : 0.8.6.a.debian-6~1
   Candidat : 0.8.6.a.debian-6~1
  Table de version :
  *** 0.8.6.a.debian-6~1 0
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
  0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-5etch1 0
 500 http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages
 500 http://ftp.debian.org stable/main Packages
 
 ciao
 Klaus
 
 pour réglé le pb:

 dans synaptic: paquet --- forcer la version 2:1.1.1-21etch1

 et redémarrage du serveurX


 cordialement
 
 
 


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Re: upgrade libsane-extra debian testing

2008-01-19 Thread Philippe Merlin
Bonjour,
J'ai exactement le même problème. J'ai fait comme tu l'as suggéré un 
apt-get -f remove iscan.
Mais alors on me dit de faire un apt-get -f install préalablement ,qui essaye 
d'installer libsane-extra et qui échoue évidemment.
Je ne vois pas comment m'en sortir, je pense que c'est très simple.
Pourriez vous me donner une idée.
A l'avance merci.
Philippe MERLIN




Le samedi 19 janvier 2008, David Prévot a écrit :
 debianpmd a écrit :
  j'ai un problème en upgradant libsane-extra ce jour sur debian testing.

 [...]

   tentative de remplacement de « /usr/share/man/man5/sane-epkowa.5.gz »,
  qui appartient aussi au paquet iscan

 [...]

  Avez vous le même problème ?

 iscan n'etant pas pas un paquet debian officiel, il doit entrer en
 conflit avec libsane-extra, ne reste plus qu'à le patcher...

 D'un autre côté, si tu as installé iscan pour bénéficier du pilote
 epokwa qui semble maintenant inclus dans libsane-extra, tu peux
 peut-être simplement virer iscan.

 Amicalement

 David





Re: upgrade libsane-extra debian testing

2008-01-19 Thread Txo
En ce samedi 19 janvier 2008 à 15:50:33  Philippe Merlin nous
susurrait :

 Bonjour,

Bonjour

 J'ai exactement le même problème. J'ai fait comme tu l'as suggéré un 
 apt-get -f remove iscan.
 Mais alors on me dit de faire un apt-get -f install préalablement ,qui essaye 
 d'installer libsane-extra et qui échoue évidemment.

J'ai téléchargé le paquet à partir de cette page pour sid
http://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/libsane-extras/download

ou de celle là si testing
http://packages.debian.org/lenny/i386/libsane-extras/download

et installé le paquet avec la commande
dpkg -i --force-depends libsane-extras_1.0.18.15_i386.deb

et j'ai ainsi gardé iscan  et Xsane.


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Re: désactiver la « c ompression » de syslog

2008-01-19 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 11:25:31AM +0100,
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 a message of 26 lines which said:

 Cette protection est illusoire  il est facile de faire la meme chose
 avec une commande du type
 logger message avec un id different $RANDOM

Vu. Merci pour la correction.


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Re: Alimentation des hubs USB (was: iPod et... Grub ?!)

2008-01-19 Thread Franck JONCOURT

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:21:09 +0100, Pascal Hambourg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Franck JONCOURT a écrit :
 On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:53:57 +0100, Pascal Hambourg
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Et ce n'est pas le
pire concernant l'alimentation des hubs USB, d'ailleurs.

 Aurais tu un lien ou des pistes pour en savoir davantage ?
 
 Non, juste des observations sur deux hubs USB 2.0 quatre ports
 auto-alimentés qui me sont passés entre les mains. Je ne voulais pas
 m'étendre car c'est largement hors sujet ici, mais puisque tu
insistes...

Ah la curiosité :p!

 Dans le premier de marque Advance, l'entrée +5V du bloc d'alimentation
 était reliée directement à la sortie +5V des quatre ports USB, et
pire,
 à l'entrée +5V du port de liaison à l'hôte ! 

Je ne connais aucun intérêt à mettre des sources d'alimentation en 
parallèle, hormis à vouloir en faire casser une, ou pour effectuer des 
tests afin de vérifier la capacité à encaisser. Mais bon cela semble un 
peu gros pour être une erreur involontaire.

[...]
 En tout cas je crois comprendre maintenant pourquoi on suggère souvent
 d'intercaler un hub auto-alimenté en cas de problème d'alimentation
d'un
 périphérique USB. C'est parce que le périphérique consomme trop par
 rapport à la norme ou à ce qu'il a déclaré, et que le hub ne
contrôle
 pas ni ne limite le courant consommé, alors que les contrôleurs des PC
 le font.
 
 Un peu de documentation en Français pour ceux que cela intéresse.

 http://u.s.b.free.fr/pdf/L_USB_et_sa_norme_v1.pdf

 autrement sur http://usb.org, il y en a un peu plus :p!
 
 Tout ça c'est la théorie. La réalité semble bien différente. :-\

Les contraintes de coût en sont certainement une raison.

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Re: upgrade libsane-extra debian testing

2008-01-19 Thread debianpmd
Le Saturday 19 January 2008 15:23:56 David Prévot, vous avez écrit :
 debianpmd a écrit :
  j'ai un problème en upgradant libsane-extra ce jour sur debian testing.

 [...]

   tentative de remplacement de « /usr/share/man/man5/sane-epkowa.5.gz »,
  qui appartient aussi au paquet iscan

 [...]

  Avez vous le même problème ?

 iscan n'etant pas pas un paquet debian officiel, il doit entrer en
 conflit avec libsane-extra, ne reste plus qu'à le patcher...

 D'un autre côté, si tu as installé iscan pour bénéficier du pilote
 epokwa qui semble maintenant inclus dans libsane-extra, tu peux
 peut-être simplement virer iscan.

 Amicalement

 David
exact
dpkg --purge iscan
et ça marche.
J'aurais bien modifié le paquet deb car ce qui cloche c'est le remplacement de 
la page man mais je ne sais pas faire.

Merci à tous
Amitiés
pmd





Re: ATTENTION: MISE À JOUR XSERVER-XORG-CORE BUGGÉ

2008-01-19 Thread Philippe
Le samedi 19 janvier 2008 à 13:28 +0100, dPailler a écrit :
 Depuis ce matin je n'accédé plus à vlc, c'est du à la dernière mise à 
 jour : 2:1.1.1-21etch2
 
 pour réglé le pb:
 
 dans synaptic: paquet --- forcer la version 2:1.1.1-21etch1
 
 et redémarrage du serveurX
 
 
 cordialement
encore faut-il que dans synaptic on retrouve la trace de la version
2:1.1.1-21etch1
parce que chez moi il y a eu aussi la MAJ des paquets
merci
 
 
 


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Re: IPv6 et DNS

2008-01-19 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 02:36:20PM +0100,
 DUFRESNE, Mathias (STERIA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 a message of 106 lines which said:

 Je sais bien qu'on a largement le temps avant un vrai déploiement de
 l'IPv6,

Pas sûr. L'épuisement des adresses IPv4 étant prévu pour 2009 ou 2010
(http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/huston-ipv4.pdf),
la transition risque de devoir se faire de manière rapide et sans
préparation.


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Re: ATTENTION: MISE À JOUR XSERVER-XORG-CORE BUGGÉ

2008-01-19 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:28:58 +0100
dPailler [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:

 Depuis ce matin je n'accédé plus à vlc, c'est du à la dernière mise à 
 jour : 2:1.1.1-21etch2
 
 pour réglé le pb:
 
 dans synaptic: paquet --- forcer la version 2:1.1.1-21etch1
 
 et redémarrage du serveurX
 

Tu parles de quelle version de Debian?

Gaëtan


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Re: IPv6 et DNS

2008-01-19 Thread mpg
Le (on) samedi 19 janvier 2008 13:40, Pascal Hambourg a écrit (wrote) :

 On en a parlé dans les forums de discussion de Free, proxad.free.*.

Je ne suis que proxad.free.annonces, où il n'y a pas trop de traffic. Je
devrais peut-être en lire un peu plus...

 Le 
 communiqué de Free dit que les annonces RA émises par la Freebox
 contiennent non seulement le préfixe IPv6 qui sert à l'autoconfiguration
 sans état mais aussi une option RDNSS (cf. RFC 5006) avec les adresses
 IPv6 des deux serveurs DNS. Mais cette option étant récente, il faut
 avoir un noyau Linux 2.6.24 (actuellement en -rc8, bietôt publié en
 stable) au minimum ou bien patché ainsi qu'un démon rdnssd pour que
 cette option soit prise en compte (cf. http://rdnssd.linkfanel.net/
 pour le patch et le démon). En attendant, le plus simple est de les
 mettre en dur dans /etc/resolv.conf : 2a01:5d8:e0ff::1 et
 2a01:5d8:e0ff::2.
 
Oki, donc pour l'instant ce sera plutôt en dur en effet. (Surtout pour la
machine qui est en Etch, le 2.6.24 n'est pas pour tout de suite.) Merci
pour les infos en tout cas !

Manuel.


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Mp3 Music

2008-01-19 Thread shandir shandir
 Brings you the best mp3 files from new, unsigned artists
http://mp3cow.com


reproductor Totem

2008-01-19 Thread Reiniel Gonzalez Martinez
El reproductor ToTem de mi Debian, no me quiere abrir, parece que debido a la 
instalacion de otros 
como por ejemplo de Mplayer y el kplayer, le ha pasado esto alguna vez a 
alguienPense en que desistalando estos todo volveria a la normalidad pero 
no fue asi


Universidad de las Ciencias Informaticas
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Daría todo lo que sé, por la mitad de lo que ignoro
Es mejor fracasar intentando triunfar que no triunfar por temor a fracasar 



Instalacion en portatil

2008-01-19 Thread Isabel Diaz
Hola:
Estoy intentando instalar  debian en mi nuevo portatil. He estado usando
ubuntu durante un año, pero mis conocimientos aun no son muy avanzados
Tengo un HP Pavilion vd9738 con un Turion 64 x2 t60 , 2 G de RAM y una
Nvidia geforce 8400.
He partidionado el disco y he dejado 30 G para linux.
El problema que tengo es que le meto el cd de debian y como el que oye
llover, no sale absolutamente nada.
He intentado tambien istalar ubuntu añadiendo  apic nolapic pero sigo sin
tener ningun avance, se queda bloqueado en la pantalla de elejir intalar,
arrancar desde el disco duro...
He estado buscando por internet pero no he encontrado nada que me sirva
 Me podeis echar una mano?
Gracias
Isabel


Re: para xfce: ¿screensaver y visualizador de imágenes?

2008-01-19 Thread Jorge Barreiro Gonzalez
O Venres 18 Xaneiro 2008 22:48, mmejiav escribiu:
 El 18/01/08, Marcos Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
2. para visualizar archivos jpg / gif / png el los abre con gimp...
recuerdo que en kde existe una aplicación para visualizarlos de forma
ligera (no recuerdo el nombre) existe algo similar en xfce?
  
   Yo utilizo desde siempre el gqview que es ligero y con algunas
   opciones
   interesantes como la generación de colecciones, visualización de
   información
   EXIF y un largo etc.
 
  A mi también me gusta gqview, el único inconveniente que le veo es que
  no pueda ver las imágenes dentro de archivos comprimidos, como los
  zip.
 
  Saludos.
  Marcos Delgado.

 Gracias por la pronta respuesta de todos (como es usual)
 ya instale xscreensaver ... pero no se lanza automáticamente... generé
 un script de arranque y lo coloque en /etc/rc2.d ... dice así:

 #!/bin/bash

 case $1 in
 start)
 /usr/bin/xscreensaver
 ;;
 stop)
 killall xscreensaver
 ;;
 esac;

 y genere un link a rc2.d:  S32xscreensaver
 pero no arranca automático así que me toca a mano :(

Supongo que el xscreensaver necesitará que el servidor X esté lanzado para 
ejecutarse. Así que tendrías que darle un número mayor que el servicio q 
arranca las X (el display manager, normalmente), y mi kde tiene el 99...
Yo lo pondría en el Xsession, si quieres que se ejecute como root, o en 
el .xinitrc si quieres que se ejecuten con tu usuario (lo del xinitrc no lo 
he probado, pero imagino que funciona).

 en cuanto a las imágenes preferí el kuickshow ...

 cualquier otra ayudita sera escuchada

 cordialmente
 mmejiav



Xserver-xorg-core

2008-01-19 Thread Santiago José López Borrazás
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Hola:

Hace unos 2 días que actualicé el sistema, y me encontré el fallo con el
xserver-xorg-core, que lo tenían puesto hasta esta misma mañana.

Este paquete (1.1.1-21etch2), dió fallos con el Java. Ahora mismo, he
actualizado ya hace un buen rato, y ya no falla.

Según leí por distintos sitios, que el fallo está en aplicaciones Java (a mí
me falló sólo al RSSOwl2).

Pero con el xserver-xorg-core 1.1.1-21etch3, ya no ha dado ningún fallo.

Que algunos actualicen de la 1.1.1-21etch2 a esta nueva versión con 'apt-get
update  apt-get upgrade'. Os dará la última sacada ya mismo a la hora de
la comida (hora española).

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Re: Instalacion en portatil

2008-01-19 Thread Hernan Quintana

Isabel Diaz escribió:

Hola:
Estoy intentando instalar  debian en mi nuevo portatil. He estado 
usando ubuntu durante un año, pero mis conocimientos aun no son muy 
avanzados
Tengo un HP Pavilion vd9738 con un Turion 64 x2 t60 , 2 G de RAM y una 
Nvidia geforce 8400.

He partidionado el disco y he dejado 30 G para linux.
El problema que tengo es que le meto el cd de debian y como el que oye 
llover, no sale absolutamente nada.
He intentado tambien istalar ubuntu añadiendo  apic nolapic pero 
sigo sin tener ningun avance, se queda bloqueado en la pantalla de 
elejir intalar, arrancar desde el disco duro...

He estado buscando por internet pero no he encontrado nada que me sirva
Me podeis echar una mano?
Gracias
Isabel

Hola Isabel,

Realice un pequeno HOWTO de como instalar ubuntu en una portatil con una 
configuracion parecida a la tuya (y cabe mencionar q ahora mi portatil 
HP correo como en el paraiso).


Te envio la direccion:
http://hernanq.blogspot.com/2007/11/instalacion-de-ubuntu-gutsy-en-laptop.html

Si quieres hacer funcionar tu tarjeta de red wireless:
http://hernanq.blogspot.com/2007/11/configurando-wifi-en-ubuntu-gutsy-en-mi.html

Algo que tienes que tener en cuenta es que te debes bajar la version de 
Ubuntu para procesadores AMD de 64 bits, si no vas a tener problemas.


Espero sea de tu ayuda.

Hernan Quintana
DEVOS Inc


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Problema con dist-upgrade (pantalla)

2008-01-19 Thread Fernando
Hola listeros, les comento un poco mi problema, yo tenia instalado
debian en su rama unstable, cuestión que cada vez que actualizaba
siempre tenia algún problema de dependencias de cosas que dejaban de
funcionar, etc.. Por ello fue que decidí volver a testing.
Luego de ejecutar el dist-upgrade y solucionar todos los problemas de
dependencias logre por fin volver sin problemas. Pero al reiniciar el
linux, noto que me aparece una línea de 1px de ancho y que cruza la
pantalla verticalmente de punta a punta de color rosa que a veces cambia
a verde :| busque busque pero no logro solucionarlo, esta linea me
aparece tanto en la consola como en las X, si alguno paso por esto,
tirenme una soga gracias.


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Re: Instalacion en portatil

2008-01-19 Thread Isabel Diaz
Ante todo gracias por contestar:
Ya he leido los Howto, (lei todo cuanto pude antes de mandar el correo) y
los cd
que me he bajado son para 64 bits.
pero no consigo nada con las opciones de booteo
noapic nolapic irqpoll noirqdebug.
Da igual que las ponga como que no, En los manuales que he encontrado solo
se
habla de estas opciones.. ¿Hay alguna mas que deba incluir?






2008/1/19, Hernan Quintana [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Isabel Diaz escribió:
  Hola:
  Estoy intentando instalar  debian en mi nuevo portatil. He estado
  usando ubuntu durante un año, pero mis conocimientos aun no son muy
  avanzados
  Tengo un HP Pavilion vd9738 con un Turion 64 x2 t60 , 2 G de RAM y una
  Nvidia geforce 8400.
  He partidionado el disco y he dejado 30 G para linux.
  El problema que tengo es que le meto el cd de debian y como el que oye
  llover, no sale absolutamente nada.
  He intentado tambien istalar ubuntu añadiendo  apic nolapic pero
  sigo sin tener ningun avance, se queda bloqueado en la pantalla de
  elejir intalar, arrancar desde el disco duro...
  He estado buscando por internet pero no he encontrado nada que me sirva
  Me podeis echar una mano?
  Gracias
  Isabel
 Hola Isabel,

 Realice un pequeno HOWTO de como instalar ubuntu en una portatil con una
 configuracion parecida a la tuya (y cabe mencionar q ahora mi portatil
 HP correo como en el paraiso).

 Te envio la direccion:

 http://hernanq.blogspot.com/2007/11/instalacion-de-ubuntu-gutsy-en-laptop.html

 Si quieres hacer funcionar tu tarjeta de red wireless:

 http://hernanq.blogspot.com/2007/11/configurando-wifi-en-ubuntu-gutsy-en-mi.html

 Algo que tienes que tener en cuenta es que te debes bajar la version de
 Ubuntu para procesadores AMD de 64 bits, si no vas a tener problemas.

 Espero sea de tu ayuda.

 Hernan Quintana
 DEVOS Inc



Problemas con aMule

2008-01-19 Thread Marce
Buenas a todos, ultimamente parece k ha pasado algo raro con el amule en el
debian etch r1..Cuando lo voy a arrancar, no hacia nada..asi k weno, me fui
a la consola para tirar de ahi y ver k posible fallo tenia. Me devolvio
esto:

# Unable to initialize gtk, is DISPLAY set properly?

Y despues de cerrar la consola y ejecutar otra vez desde ahi el amule me
devolvio esto:

Gtk-WARNING **: Imposible encontrar el motor de temas en la ruta al _modulo:
«ubuntulooks»,
Initialising aMule
Checking if there is an instance already running...
No other instances are running.
The program 'amule' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
  (Details: serial 768 error_code 11 request_code 146 minor_code 5)
  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)

No creo k sea un problema del tema k le tengo puesto, pq cambiandolo y
poniendo alguno predefinido sigue dando el mismo problema..Ademas, ha estado
funcionando con total normalidad hasta ahora..
Sabeis a que puede ser debido? Muchas graciass


Re: Problemas con aMule

2008-01-19 Thread Santiago José López Borrazás
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El 19/01/08 20:39, Marce escribió:
(...)
 This probably reflects a bug in the program.
 The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.

Actualizate el paquete xserver-xor-core, que ahora han puesto el correcto, y
ya no falla.

Han puesto la 1.1.1-21etch3, que este funciona bien.

A mí me pasó exactamente lo mismo. Ya he reportado anteriormente el tema y
he indicado que se ha de actualizar.

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Re: Problemas con aMule

2008-01-19 Thread Santiago José López Borrazás
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El 19/01/08 21:26, Santiago José López Borrazás escribió:
 Actualizate el paquete xserver-xor-core, que ahora han puesto el correcto, y
 ^^^
Es xserver-xorg-core. Perdonar por el lapsus...

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Fwd: Problemas con aMule

2008-01-19 Thread Marce
Pues muchisimas gracias, todo solucionado. Dejo escrito lo que hice para los
que tengan el mismo problema:

· # apt-get update ((para actualizar los repositorios))
· # apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
· O bien reiniciar el entorno X o desde una consola matar el proceso gdm y
reiniciarlo
· Ctrl+f1 --- /etc/init.d/gdm restart
· Tuto Perfetto

Lo dicho..muchas gracias !!

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El 19/01/08 21:26, Santiago José López Borrazás escribió:
 Actualizate el paquete xserver-xor-core, que ahora han puesto el correcto,
y
 ^^^
Es xserver-xorg-core. Perdonar por el lapsus...

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Re: Instalacion en portatil

2008-01-19 Thread Roger Orellana
On Jan 19, 2008 1:37 PM, Isabel Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ante todo gracias por contestar:
 Ya he leido los Howto, (lei todo cuanto pude antes de mandar el correo) y
 los cd
 que me he bajado son para 64 bits.
 pero no consigo nada con las opciones de booteo
 noapic nolapic irqpoll noirqdebug.
 Da igual que las ponga como que no, En los manuales que he encontrado solo
 se
 habla de estas opciones.. ¿Hay alguna mas que deba incluir?



   Hola Isabel, en este hilo[0] quizás puedas encontrar
algo que te sirva respecto a los parámetros y configuración
previa a la instalación.


   Saludos,

[0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2008/01/msg00241.html


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Recuperar MBR o tabla de particiones.

2008-01-19 Thread francisco
Hola a todos

Antecedentes:
Tengo un DD Seagate de 320 GB con datos y 1 sola particion; no recuerdo
si la cree con cfdisk de Slackware u otro; si estoy seguro que no fue
con Debian, ya que para usar cfdisk en Testing, que es el que uso, hay
que poner tilde o cambiar el LANG_ES; este DD funcionaba perfectamente
como DD externo; luego mi socia tuvo la brillante idea de conectarlo a
Windows Vista (Laptop Compaq) y adios MBR y todo.

Cosas hechas:
Con Testdisk, analice a la primera y no tuve ningun resultado; luego
cambie la geometria, probe 255 y 240 H y nada; luego probe a mover las
cantidades de CHS para obtener los 320 GB; pero en este punto, estoy
totalmente perdido.

Preguntas:
Cual seria el punto de inicio que sea fijo en relacion a CHS, como para
que reconozca correctamente el particionado? he probado 63; pero no me
reconoce la particion.

Conoce alguno de uds. un metodo mas efectivo para recrear el MBR o la
tabla de particiones?

Como podria identificar que FS hay en la particion?

Muchas gracias.

PD
sfdisk, lo he dejado como ultimo recurso, gracias.


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Re: Re: OT algun astronomo aficionado por aqui??

2008-01-19 Thread Salvador Garcia Z.
En definitiva me da gusto por ti BasaBuru, difinitivamente la astronomia es
otro mundo muy poco comprendido. Yo desgraciadamente no tengo el tiempo para
dedicarle, tal vez mas adelante le tenga.
La gran mayoria de aficionados pueden compartir conocimientos y mostrar
cosas del espacio que no es profundo, pero que puede marcar la vida de la
tierra de forma inesperada.
La mayoria de los metioros y cometas an sido descubiertos por aficionados y
ellos marcan nuestro planeta de forma muy seria.
Por eso te felicito y si mas adelante tengo tiempo para la astrofisica me
pongo en contacto contigo.
Por otro lado deja ver si te puedo poner en contacto con Deny's Manana
(Astrofisico y responsable de monte palomar). y Con Alberto Lebby, un
aficionado de la astrofisica de gran nivel que mantiene un grupo de
aficionados y te paso su direccion http://www.astrobaja.com/ de momento, lo
demas dejame hablar con ellos.


Re: Recuperar dados de uma partição formatada - Reiserfs

2008-01-19 Thread André Moura
Eu já recuperei dados de minha partição, depois de um acidente, com
esse utilitário

http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk

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erro na inicialização do GNOME

2008-01-19 Thread Hugo Guimarães
Bom dia pessoal,

Há um tempo eu fiz uma atualização e, quando eu inicio o GNOME, aparece um
erro dizendo que a língua pt_br não existe e que vai utilizar a lingua
padrão do sistema.

E o splash screen da inicialização do GNOME fica estática, só desaparecendo
após dar um clique com o mouse.

Eu não tinha falado antes porque pensei que com as atualizações posteriores
iria ser corrigido esse erro, mas já faz mais de um mês e nada. Alguém sabe
onde eu posso consertar isso?

Abraços!


Hugo Guimarães


Re: erro na inicialização do GNOME

2008-01-19 Thread Fabiano Manoel de Andrade

Em Sáb, 2008-01-19 às 14:43 -0300, Hugo Guimarães escreveu:
 Bom dia pessoal,
 
 Há um tempo eu fiz uma atualização e, quando eu inicio o GNOME,
 aparece um erro dizendo que a língua pt_br não existe e que vai
 utilizar a lingua padrão do sistema.
 
 E o splash screen da inicialização do GNOME fica estática, só
 desaparecendo após dar um clique com o mouse. 
 
 Eu não tinha falado antes porque pensei que com as atualizações
 posteriores iria ser corrigido esse erro, mas já faz mais de um mês e
 nada. Alguém sabe onde eu posso consertar isso?
 
 Abraços!
 
 
 Hugo Guimarães 

Olá Hugo.

Mude o idioma no gdm antes de fazer o login clicando em Idioma e
escolha português brasileiro.
Abraço.
Fabiano.


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Problema com o Som do Lenny

2008-01-19 Thread debiminho debiminho
Olá,,,

Instalei o Lenny e estou a ter problemas com o Som, no etch não tinha
qualquer tipo de problema.

Ao que parece não é detectada a placa de som mas os modulos
são carregados.

snd_hda_intel  311968  0
snd_pcm 89992  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
snd  65896  5
snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
snd_page_alloc   15376  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm

Quando carrego no controlo de volume dá o erro,

Nenhum plugin e/ou dispositivo de controlo de volume GStreamer encontrado.



Re: squid autenticando no em 2 AD's

2008-01-19 Thread Antonio Lobato


Olá Leandro!

não funciona pelo seguinte...

para se usar 2 ADs nesse cenário é mandatório que exista um sistema de 
triagem. Ou seja, requisições de autenticação dos usuários ana, alice, 
adalberto, etc serão encaminhadas pro AD da adm enquanto que as req. de 
flavia, fernando, etc serão encaminhadas pro AD do finan.
Imagine que ana tenta se autenticar e o smb_auth (ou msnt_auth) envia a 
requisição para o AD finan... access denied!.





Tom Lobato
www.tinecon.com.br


Leandro Moreira escreveu:

Tom,

Sua ideia foi de grande ajuda, vou começa a pesquizar em cima disso que

você me sugeriu, gostaria de tirar mais uma dúvida, pude ver na

configuração do msnt_auth que ele aceita um pdc primario e um slave, os

meus AD's nao conversão entre si, ou seja, não há replicação de um AD

para o outro. Se eu configurasse o AD administrativo como master e o

financeiro como slave, poderia ser uma forma mais simples de fazer essa

configuração. Vecê acha isso loucura ou pode ser possivel.



Att.



Leandro
  




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Scaner HP no Debian

2008-01-19 Thread Angelo M. S.
saudações,

Srs, alguém já conseguiu fazer o Scaner HP Scanjet 2400 funcionar no Debian ?



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Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new user question: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Dan H
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:47:29 +0900
David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ext3 is best if you are dealing with a mixture of both and has the
 added security factor of defaulting to Ext2 if it fails. Although I
 have never had reason to find out.

I'm in the habit of using buggy and crash-prone hardware D.on't know
why; I guess I just don't like buying new hardware, am too lazy to
haul faulty stuff back to the store, and don't mind the occasional
cold reboot.

Anyway, while I often had minor and rather harmless corruption on ext2
systems from these shutdowns, I've never had any issues after
switching to ext3. Recovering journal... and that's it. Same
for USB (and encrypted) disks that I often forget to properly
unmount. Don't know anything about other systems, but also see no
reason to try them out.

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Re: alsactl names finds nothing

2008-01-19 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 08:23:07 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote:
 Suddenly no sound.  Alsamixer shows it is using the motherboard  
 soundcard and the speakers are connected to the Creative Labs pci card.   
 Alsaconf says it is not needed with Lenny but it will find the Creative  
 Labs sound card.  Unfortunately it also kills dsp.  alsactl names finds  
 nothing.  I am using the latest 2.6.22 kernel image.  I have both the  
 486 and the 686 versions.  Same problem with both.

If alsaconf configures the correct card and your only problem is the
missing /dev/dsp then this should be fixable with a simple modprobe
snd_pcm_oss after running alsaconf. You might also have to add
snd_pcm_oss to /etc/modules to keep dsp after the next reboot. 

If the above does not help you then we need to know the output of the
following commands:

lspci -nn | egrep -i 's(ou)?nd|audio|media'

lsmod | grep snd

cat /proc/asound/cards

cat /dev/sndstat

cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound

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Re: OT: How to detect a keypress, and in which language?

2008-01-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Kent West wrote:

Hey folks!

Apologies for the very off-topic post; I've been googling for the answer 
off-and-on for two days unsuccessfully, so I've finally decided to turn 
to the smartest group of people around.


I want to write a basic little Morse Code key program to put into the 
newsletter of the local amateur radio (ham) club. It'd be nice if it 
were cross-platform, and preferably easy-peazy on Linux and maybe just 
as easy on OS/X and just a little more trouble on Windows (so I can 
subtly suggest that Windows is sub-standard to nix-based OSes (okay, I'm 
never subtle about pushing Debian to my fellow hams)), and it'd be ideal 
if the code requires almost no overhead, so non-programmers can easily 
grasp how it works.


All I want to do is to detect two keys, say the left- and right-shift 
keys, or the  and  keys. For one key, a short dit audio tone would 
be generated, and for the other key, a longer dah audio tone would be 
generated. I need to bypass the keyboard buffer, so that holding down 
the dit key for two seconds doesn't generate 30 dits; it should produce 
dits while the key is held down, but once the key is let up, the dits 
should immediately stop (after finishing the one it's on).


The code would look something like this:

While ( not ESC)
 read keystroke
 if keystroke = LeftArrow then generateTone(dit)
   else if keystroke = RightArrow then generateTone(dah)
Done

I'm sure the information is out there on Google, but not being a 
programmer, I'm finding snippets that don't have enough context for me 
to be able to actually test (for example, I found a Java snippet that 
looked promising, but I couldn't even get it to compile), or the 
snippets read from the read-ahead keyboard buffer which introduces 
delays and run-ons.


So, any suggestions as to which language will be best suitable for my 
wants?


Any suggestions as to how to detect the keypress in that language?

Any suggestions as to how to generate a tone in that language (this one 
I figure will be fairly easy to Google for, but I haven't tried, seeing 
as the keypress has been the show-stopper so far).




IFAIK you've hit upon the one problem in cross-platform programming, 
access to the speaker for variable duration (dit and dah).


I would use Qt and that makes keypresses easy to detect, but not sound 
of variable duration, unless you don't mind recording a dit.wav and a 
dah.wav and then the problem is easy again.


I have done what you want but only for Linux because the basic 
pc-speaker sound producing algorithm (ioctl) is different from M$. 
Debian has Package: beep (1.2.2-20) but that uses ioctl to access the 
speaker.


Hugo


















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Re: Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Александър Л. Димитров wrote:
 Quoth Hugo Vanwoerkom:

 ext2. Never have used any other.

 I seriously hope that this was a joke...

Maybe it was, but I never used anything but ext2 either, and that
is no joke. It has worked fine for many years. I often considered
upgrading to ext3, but so far I've never taken this step. I
expect this is the same for many users of old.

I am especially put off by the Wikipedia article on ext3. It gives
a rather long list of disadvantages. One of them (No
checksumming in journal) even sounds pretty frightening. The list
of advantages is very short, and they are mostly advantages over
Reiserfs and other non-ext2 systems, not advantages over ext2.

But sometimes bugs in applications can cause a complete freeze of
X, incl. keyboard and mouse. It happens to me about once a year,
unfortunately also yesterday evening. In such a case there is
nothing you can do but pull the plug. Then when you reboot, all
sorts of alarming messages appear. By invoking fsck one can
normally get the system to boot again, but there may be
side-effects (e.g. my old iceweasel history was gone after the
reboot yesterday).

So now I am more or less ready to take the plunge. But I would
still like some advice.

1. Is it true that ext3 always lets you recover smoothly after a
   freeze and pull the plug, or after a power cut? Or are there
   still ifs and buts?
2. Is significant room on the disk (or partition) taken by the
   journal? By how much can I expect the disk capacity to be
   reduced?
3. It is said ext3 is slow. Does this apply to writing only, or
   also to reading? I.e., is there a danger that when I play a
   film with mplayer, I'll get the dreaded message Your system is
   TOO SLOW to play this?
4. I have my whole Linux system, apart from swap (i.e. the root,
   and everything that branches off it, like /boot, /var, /usr)
   just on one logical partition. Can I still convert to ext3,
   possibly by using a Knoppix or Ubuntu CD-ROM to boot from?
5. Where can I find reliable, step-by-step instructions for the
   conversion? There are several such instruction sites on the
   Web, but I am not sure they always agree.

PS: Kernel is 2.6.20-1-686

Regards, Jan


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Re: rsync 10 times slower in Etch than in Sarge!

2008-01-19 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 09:24:22AM -0900, Ken Irving [EMAIL PROTECTED] was 
heard to say:
 n Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 12:16:28PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
 
  Why issue a 'sync' instead of just unmounting and waiting until the
  thing stops flashing?
 
 sync blocks, so you can tell from the command line when the job is done.

  So does umount.  (I see you said that below, but I wanted to underline
it again; it looks like Rudolfo overlooked it)  After umount
completes, it's safe to remove the stick.

 I guess this thread took a turn to USB drives, which would presumably
 be local, but the rsync operation might be on a remote system where the
 lights aren't visible.

  If you're rsyncing to a remote system, it doesn't matter whether you
sync or not unless you've directly mounted it on your computer using
something like NFS.  sync flushes the local computer's write buffers,
but if you've rsynced over ssh, all the actual writes took place on the
remote machine.  You'd have to ssh over there and run sync to ensure
that your data was written to disk.

  Daniel


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Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 01/19/08 07:35, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:
 Александър Л. Димитров wrote:
 Quoth Hugo Vanwoerkom:
 ext2. Never have used any other.
 I seriously hope that this was a joke...
 
 Maybe it was, but I never used anything but ext2 either, and that
 is no joke. It has worked fine for many years. I often considered
 upgrading to ext3, but so far I've never taken this step. I
 expect this is the same for many users of old.
 
 I am especially put off by the Wikipedia article on ext3. It gives
 a rather long list of disadvantages. One of them (No
 checksumming in journal) even sounds pretty frightening. The list
 of advantages is very short, and they are mostly advantages over
 Reiserfs and other non-ext2 systems, not advantages over ext2.
 
 But sometimes bugs in applications can cause a complete freeze of
 X, incl. keyboard and mouse. It happens to me about once a year,
 unfortunately also yesterday evening. In such a case there is
 nothing you can do but pull the plug. Then when you reboot, all
 sorts of alarming messages appear. By invoking fsck one can
 normally get the system to boot again, but there may be
 side-effects (e.g. my old iceweasel history was gone after the
 reboot yesterday).
 
 So now I am more or less ready to take the plunge. But I would
 still like some advice.
 
 1. Is it true that ext3 always lets you recover smoothly after a
freeze and pull the plug, or after a power cut? Or are there
still ifs and buts?

There are very few always.  Except always make backups.

But I've never lost anything to a crash.

 2. Is significant room on the disk (or partition) taken by the
journal? By how much can I expect the disk capacity to be
reduced?

1%, maybe.  Only significant if you are running low on a disk.

 3. It is said ext3 is slow. Does this apply to writing only, or
also to reading? I.e., is there a danger that when I play a
film with mplayer, I'll get the dreaded message Your system is
TOO SLOW to play this?

Slower.  But it's been *MANY* years since I've gotten that kind of
message.

 4. I have my whole Linux system, apart from swap (i.e. the root,
and everything that branches off it, like /boot, /var, /usr)
just on one logical partition. Can I still convert to ext3,
possibly by using a Knoppix or Ubuntu CD-ROM to boot from?

Sure.

 5. Where can I find reliable, step-by-step instructions for the
conversion? There are several such instruction sites on the
Web, but I am not sure they always agree.

man tune2fs is all you need.  Specifically, option -j.  It's
that simple.

 PS: Kernel is 2.6.20-1-686

Doesn't matter.

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Re: alsactl names finds nothing

2008-01-19 Thread Thomas H. George
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 01:56:46PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 08:23:07 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote:
  Suddenly no sound.  Alsamixer shows it is using the motherboard  
  soundcard and the speakers are connected to the Creative Labs pci card.   
  Alsaconf says it is not needed with Lenny but it will find the Creative  
  Labs sound card.  Unfortunately it also kills dsp.  alsactl names finds  
  nothing.  I am using the latest 2.6.22 kernel image.  I have both the  
  486 and the 686 versions.  Same problem with both.
 
 If alsaconf configures the correct card and your only problem is the
 missing /dev/dsp then this should be fixable with a simple modprobe
 snd_pcm_oss after running alsaconf. You might also have to add
 snd_pcm_oss to /etc/modules to keep dsp after the next reboot. 

This did not solve the problem.
 
 If the above does not help you then we need to know the output of the
 following commands:
 
 lspci -nn | egrep -i 's(ou)?nd|audio|media'
 
 lsmod | grep snd
 
 cat /proc/asound/cards
 
 cat /dev/sndstat
 
 cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound

Here are the responses to the above commands


Script started on Sat 19 Jan 2008 09:24:09 AM EST
Dragon:~# lspci -nn | egrep -i 's(ou)?nd|audio|media'
00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 
[1102:0002] (rev 07)
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller [1106:3059] (rev 50)
Dragon:~# lsmod | grep snd
snd_pcm_oss38816  0 
snd_mixer_oss  15360  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_emu10k1_synth   7040  0 
snd_emux_synth 31744  1 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_seq_virmidi 6656  1 snd_emux_synth
snd_seq_midi_emul   6016  1 snd_emux_synth
snd_seq_dummy   3844  0 
snd_seq_oss29184  0 
snd_seq_midi8224  0 
snd_seq_midi_event  7040  3 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq45136  9 
snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_emul,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_emu10k1   123968  1 snd_emu10k1_synth
firmware_class  9472  1 snd_emu10k1
snd_util_mem4608  2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd_hwdep   8708  2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd_via82xx26392  1 
snd_ac97_codec 92580  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_via82xx
ac97_bus2304  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm70152  4 
snd_pcm_oss,snd_emu10k1,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer  20740  3 snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 10120  3 snd_emu10k1,snd_via82xx,snd_pcm
snd_mpu401_uart 7936  1 snd_via82xx
gameport   14472  4 snd_via82xx,analog,emu10k1_gp
snd_rawmidi22688  4 
snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi,snd_emu10k1,snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device  7820  8 
snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi
snd47076  17 
snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_hwdep,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
soundcore   7264  1 snd
Dragon:~# cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [V8235  ]: VIA8233 - VIA 8235
  VIA 8235 with ALC650E at 0xec00, irq 11
Dragon:~# cat /dev/sndstat
Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.14 emulation code)
Kernel: Linux Dragon.Zoo 2.6.22-3-486 #1 Mon Nov 12 07:53:08 UTC 2007 i686
Config options: 0

Installed drivers: 
Type 10: ALSA emulation

Card config: 
VIA 8235 with ALC650E at 0xec00, irq 11

Audio devices:
0: VIA 8235 (DUPLEX)

Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Timers:
7: system timer

Mixers:
0: Realtek ALC650E
Dragon:~# cat /etc/modprove \  be.d/sound
alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
options snd-emu10k1 index=0
Dragon:~# exit

Script done on Sat 19 Jan 2008 09:31:02 AM EST
 
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XServer taken down by Wine segfaults

2008-01-19 Thread Александър Л . Димитров
Hi fokls,

I just recently rolled back to Debian and I'm currently on sid. After installing
wine I was quite confused to find out it doesn't work - at least with my current
version of the xorg-server.

I've tried both the official debian build of wine as well as a custom git-build
I compiled myself. That'd be version .53 for both. xorg version is, as reported
by X -version:

X.Org X Server 1.4.0.90
Release Date: 5 September 2007
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux Debian (xorg-server 2:1.4.1~git20080118-1)
Current Operating System: Linux brmbr 2.6.23.gmork #2 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jan 10
17:19:31 CET 2008 i686
Build Date: 18 January 2008  09:38:43PM

Everytime I try to start wine, X explodes on me, throwing me back to a VT. Log
messages are as follows:

Backtrace:
0: /usr/X11R6/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x7e) [0x80c674e]
1: [0xb7f65420]

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11.  Server aborting

that's from /var/log/slim.log.

The problem is: googling for wine, segfault, debian and xserver is not really
productive, as there seems to be quite a variety of problems involving all of
the above and some pages are as old as 2002. So I'm merely asking if anyone has
the same problems on a similar setup - are there known issues with wine under
debian?

Probably I should mention I'm using the binary nvidia drivers. Did not try it
with other drivers yet, but I don't think that should have any impact on it - it
fails with _anything_ just running wine is enough to bring that down.

Reproducible: always ;-)

Should I file a bug-report? Against which package?

Thanks,
Aleks


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Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS?

2008-01-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 04:11:17PM -0500, Jimmy Wu wrote:

I am trying to decide on which file systems to use for a Debian
install on a personal laptop.  It's a Thinkpad T61 with one 160 GB HD.
 I've looked around on Google, and come up with a lot of frustratingly
conflicting advice.  For example, an article from
debian-administration touts XFS as the best in performance.  But other
sites mention that XFS may be more vulnerable to corruption on a
crash/power outage than the other file systems.  Then, people disagree
on the performance of ext3 vs ReiserFS.


Part of the confusion is the religious nature of the issue, part is
the changing nature and experience of the filesystems in question.
Here's a summary (sorry, no references):

ext2 = long-time default linux fs.  bugs have been worked out.  Inspired
by UNIX ffs (fast filesystem) with decades of history.  Note that
decades ago, drives were puny compared to today.

ext3 = ext2 + metadata(default) journaling.  Therefore slower than ext2.

Reiserfs = designed by one person who has had some kind of problems (I
haven't looked into it).  If damage occurs (e.g. unclean shutdown), may
not be able to fix the damage and loses data.

XFS = desiged by SGI for smooth data transfer of large image /
multi-media files (streaming video editing) on IRIX (their in-house
UNIX).  Great for sequential access to large files.  Origionally
propriatary for Irix, ported to Linux.  Irix is no more.  I don't know
who is following XFS to ensure problems don't arise.

JFS = designed by IBM for large databases, focus on fast checks after an
unclean shutdown to get the server back up fast.  To do that safely,
note that speed is less of an issue than for the target for XFS.  It was
origionally written for OS/2 and then ported by IBM for AIX (their
in-house UNIX).  I used to use JFS until a thread somewhere around 6
months ago when we heard from the Debian maintainer for the JFS utils
that IBM had stopped active development and at that time only had one
person watching JFS for bugs on a very part-time basis.  That IBM
employee said that he could no longer recommend JFS for production
environments.  After this, I changed back to ext3.



In an attempt to get some definitive answers, I threw together some of
the statements I've seen, and all I am asking for is verification (a
simple true/false is enough for most of them).
So, here goes:

(1) ext3 mounts and unmounts slowly, resulting in increased boot times.



Mounts of an intact filesystem should be visually instantaneous.  If the
filesystem was not cleanly shutdown, you should be worried more about
data integrity than speed of cleaning.


(2) Neither JFS nor XFS can be made smaller, although they can be
extended if needed.



Minor detail.  How many times do you try to shrink a filesystem.  If you
do need to, make a tarball or, using LVM, make a new LV and copy the
data over, then remove the old LV.


(3) JFS performance degrades on larger filesystems, but is least CPU
intensive for smaller file systems.



Depends on what you mean by performance and what you mean by larger
filesystems.  The larger the filesystem, the larger the journal and the
more backup superblocks that need to be kept in sync.


(4) ReiserFS can be flaky on a system crash.



ReiserFS is always flaky.


(5) ReiserFS is the best choice for /var.



I used ReiserFS for about a week before my system got corrupted and I
had to reinstall.  I wouldn't use it on anything.


(6) On a continuum, XFS offers the best performance, ext3 offers the
most data integrity / chances of recovering from a crash, and JFS is
in the middle.



Apples, Oranges, and Pears.  




(7) Mixing too many file systems in one system will degrade performance



No.  If you had a system for editing video, you could use ext2 except
for, e.g. /var/tmp on which you could have XFS (especially on its own
disk or raid0 array).


(8) Is there any advantage to using ext2 for /boot rather than ext3?



Only in once instance:  where drive space is limited you need a separate
/boot, using ext2 instead of ext3 saves the space for the journal.
Since the kernel doesn't change that often, you could leave /boot
mounted ro except when updating the kernel.  In this case, a journal
doesn't really help unless you get a crash in the midst of a kernel
update.  


Bottom line for your situation:

Use ext3.  If you want the ability to change the size of partitions, use
LVM.  For a laptop, you may want to put everything in encrypted
partitions (with a separate /boot).



But all of that still gives me no reason to change all of my ext2 
partitions to something else.


Hugo


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badCRC

2008-01-19 Thread Damon L. Chesser

from messages:

Jan 19 10:19:25 dam-main kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady 
SeekComplete Error }
Jan 19 10:19:25 dam-main kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { 
DriveStatusError BadCRC }

Jan 19 10:19:25 dam-main kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown

My hda holds grub, a XP partition and /

my home partition is on a md1 using hde5 and hdf5

what is the best way to replace hda and get the grub MBR, XP and / 
transfered over.  Re-install?


on a possibly related subject, I can not authenticate against root 
user.  I can sudo su.  I can set root passwd, but I can not su to root.  
Could this be related or a seperate issue?


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Re: alsactl names finds nothing

2008-01-19 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 19 January 2008 15:35, Thomas H. George wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 01:56:46PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
  On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 08:23:07 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote:
   Suddenly no sound.  Alsamixer shows it is using the motherboard
   soundcard and the speakers are connected to the Creative Labs pci card.
   Alsaconf says it is not needed with Lenny but it will find the Creative
   Labs sound card.  Unfortunately it also kills dsp.  alsactl names finds
   nothing.  I am using the latest 2.6.22 kernel image.  I have both the
   486 and the 686 versions.  Same problem with both.
 
  If alsaconf configures the correct card and your only problem is the
  missing /dev/dsp then this should be fixable with a simple modprobe
  snd_pcm_oss after running alsaconf. You might also have to add
  snd_pcm_oss to /etc/modules to keep dsp after the next reboot.

Thomas he say.
 This did not solve the problem.

  If the above does not help you then we need to know the output of the
  following commands:
 
  lspci -nn | egrep -i 's(ou)?nd|audio|media'
 
  lsmod | grep snd
 
  cat /proc/asound/cards
 
  cat /dev/sndstat
 
  cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound

Thomas
 Here are the responses to the above commands

some snipping


 Dragon:~# cat /proc/asound/cards
  0 [V8235  ]: VIA8233 - VIA 8235
   VIA 8235 with ALC650E at 0xec00, irq 11


 Card config:
 VIA 8235 with ALC650E at 0xec00, irq 11

 Audio devices:
 0: VIA 8235 (DUPLEX)

 Dragon:~# cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound
 alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
 options snd-emu10k1 index=0
 Dragon:~# exit

 Script done on Sat 19 Jan 2008 09:31:02 AM EST

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Hi Thomas. I can see a couple of ways around your problem from the above 
output you have provided.

1st. If you are not bothered about the onboard soundcard being used, you can 
add a line to /etc/modprobe.d/sound as below.

install snd_via82xx /bin/true

This will send the module to true, and it will be ignored. As you already have 
alias, and options lines in /etc/modprobe.d/sound for snd-emu10k1, a reboot, 
a doing a cat /proc/asound/cards (hopefully) will now show the audigy card as 
card0.

I've had a lot of these sorts of problems, particularly with my usb midi 
keyboard which uses snd-usb-audio. USB starts early in the boot process, and 
usually I find that before setting options lines, the midi keyboard (which 
isn't a soundcard) is being set as card0. Similar problems with snd-bt8xx. A 
notorious module, and known to grab card0, which is often why you find 
default options lines setting it as card2 (my TV card uses this for capturing 
sound)

2nd workaround.

From your cat /proc/asound/cards, the snd_via82xx module is recognised as 
card0, but your /etc/modules.d/sound also has snd-emu10k1 as card0, as below.

Dragon:~# cat /proc/asound/cards
  0 [V8235  ]: VIA8233 - VIA 8235
   VIA 8235 with ALC650E at 0xec00, irq 11

Dragon:~# cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound
 alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
 options snd-emu10k1 index=0

So as root in a text editor make a couple of changes in /etc/modprobe.d/sound, 
as below.

Add the following line:
options snd_via82xx index=1

Change the alias line for snd-emu10k1, so that it reads:
alias snd-card-1 snd-emu10k1

I'm not booted into Debian at the mo, and have forgotten the incantation to 
stop and start alsa, but a reboot will see if this works.

All the best.

Nigel.

btw Florian, apologies for poking my nose in on this thread.



Re: alsactl names finds nothing

2008-01-19 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 09:35:38 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 01:56:46PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
  On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 08:23:07 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote:
   Suddenly no sound.  Alsamixer shows it is using the motherboard  
   soundcard and the speakers are connected to the Creative Labs pci card.   

[...]

 Dragon:~# lspci -nn | egrep -i 's(ou)?nd|audio|media'
 00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 
 [1102:0002] (rev 07)
 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
 VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller [1106:3059] (rev 50)

 Dragon:~# lsmod | grep snd
 snd_pcm_oss38816  0 

[...]

 snd_emu10k1   123968  1 snd_emu10k1_synth
 firmware_class  9472  1 snd_emu10k1
 snd_util_mem4608  2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
 snd_hwdep   8708  2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
 snd_via82xx26392  1 
 snd_ac97_codec 92580  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_via82xx

[...]

 snd47076  17 
 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_hwdep,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
 soundcore   7264  1 snd

 Dragon:~# cat /proc/asound/cards
  0 [V8235  ]: VIA8233 - VIA 8235
   VIA 8235 with ALC650E at 0xec00, irq 11

Hmm, the right modules are loaded, but your system does not list the
EMU10k1 card. 

[ snip: /dev/sndstat also only shows the VIA card ]

 Dragon:~# cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound
 alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
 options snd-emu10k1 index=0

The problem might be that snd-via82xx gets loaded first and assigned
index 0. This would block snd-emu10k1 from having that index and ALSA
might not handle this situation gracefully. Loading firmware is another
thing that can go wrong, although I would not expect to see the EMU10k1
module listed at all in that case.

Try to add the following two lines to /etc/modprobe.d/sound:

alias snd-card-1 snd-via82xx
options snd-via82xx index=1

Then reboot and check if /proc/asound/cards lists the EMU10k1. Also
check the output of dmesg | grep emu10k1 for error messages.

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Re: OT: How to detect a keypress, and in which language?

2008-01-19 Thread Kent West

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Kent West wrote:
All I want to do is to detect two keys, say the left- and right-shift 
keys, or the  and  keys. For one key, a short dit audio tone 
would be generated, and for the other key, a longer dah audio tone 
would be generated. I need to bypass the keyboard buffer, so that 
holding down the dit key for two seconds doesn't generate 30 dits; it 
should produce dits while the key is held down, but once the key is 
let up, the dits should immediately stop (after finishing the one 
it's on).




IFAIK you've hit upon the one problem in cross-platform programming, 
access to the speaker for variable duration (dit and dah).


I would use Qt and that makes keypresses easy to detect, but not sound 
of variable duration, unless you don't mind recording a dit.wav and a 
dah.wav and then the problem is easy again.


Ah, this is the info I needed. Basically what I'm hearing is that it 
can't be done, easily, cross-platform, suitably for giving my fellow 
hams a taste of programming.


Bummer.

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Re: badCRC

2008-01-19 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 01/19/08 10:00, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
 from messages:
 
 Jan 19 10:19:25 dam-main kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady
 SeekComplete Error }
 Jan 19 10:19:25 dam-main kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 {
 DriveStatusError BadCRC }
 Jan 19 10:19:25 dam-main kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown
 
 My hda holds grub, a XP partition and /
 
 my home partition is on a md1 using hde5 and hdf5
 
 what is the best way to replace hda and get the grub MBR, XP and /
 transfered over.  Re-install?

I'd backup my /home and any other data partitions, then install from
scratch and restore home+data.

 on a possibly related subject, I can not authenticate against root
 user.  I can sudo su.  I can set root passwd, but I can not su to root. 
 Could this be related or a seperate issue?

Can you log in as root?

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Re: OT: How to detect a keypress, and in which language?

2008-01-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Kent West wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Kent West wrote:
All I want to do is to detect two keys, say the left- and right-shift 
keys, or the  and  keys. For one key, a short dit audio tone 
would be generated, and for the other key, a longer dah audio tone 
would be generated. I need to bypass the keyboard buffer, so that 
holding down the dit key for two seconds doesn't generate 30 dits; it 
should produce dits while the key is held down, but once the key is 
let up, the dits should immediately stop (after finishing the one 
it's on).




IFAIK you've hit upon the one problem in cross-platform programming, 
access to the speaker for variable duration (dit and dah).


I would use Qt and that makes keypresses easy to detect, but not sound 
of variable duration, unless you don't mind recording a dit.wav and a 
dah.wav and then the problem is easy again.


Ah, this is the info I needed. Basically what I'm hearing is that it 
can't be done, easily, cross-platform, suitably for giving my fellow 
hams a taste of programming.




Right. Even using pre-recorded .wav files my experience is that those 
take too much time to start playing so it would defeat the purpose of 
detecting key-presses.


I used to have the M$ pc-speaker code around and you could write Qt code 
that uses that if it finds itself on Windows. But in any case one would 
have to recompile the code on each OS platform.


Things change of course if the cross-platform requirement goes away.

Hugo


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Re: badCRC

2008-01-19 Thread Damon L. Chesser

Ron Johnson wrote:

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from messages:

Jan 19 10:19:25 dam-main kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady
SeekComplete Error }
Jan 19 10:19:25 dam-main kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 {
DriveStatusError BadCRC }
Jan 19 10:19:25 dam-main kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown

My hda holds grub, a XP partition and /

my home partition is on a md1 using hde5 and hdf5

what is the best way to replace hda and get the grub MBR, XP and /
transfered over.  Re-install?



I'd backup my /home and any other data partitions, then install from
scratch and restore home+data.

  

on a possibly related subject, I can not authenticate against root
user.  I can sudo su.  I can set root passwd, but I can not su to root. 
Could this be related or a seperate issue?



Can you log in as root?
  


yes, tty1 lets me log in.  I can not log in as root from gnome gui, SID 
current from gnome-terminal, but can log in using sudo su.

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Re: alsactl names finds nothing

2008-01-19 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 17:04:24 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
 On Saturday 19 January 2008 15:35, Thomas H. George wrote:
  On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 01:56:46PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:

[...]

 btw Florian, apologies for poking my nose in on this thread.

No need to apologize for anything - the more, the merrier!

(Anyway, I sent my follow-up 5 minutes and 13 seconds before you.
 Neener, neener neee-ner...)

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Re: GTK update problems

2008-01-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Frank McCormick wrote:

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Frank McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Anybody notice the menubar missing from apps after the latest GTK
update ?






  I am running Sid and IceWm and upon further investigation only
certain themes are messed up. 



I just missed the update that you did and don't run IceWm, so I see none 
of the symptoms you mention.


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Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS?

2008-01-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jan 19, 2008 7:17 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ext3 = ext2 + metadata(default) journaling.  Therefore slower than ext2.

 But all of that still gives me no reason to change all of my ext2
 partitions to something else.

ext3 isn't noticably slower for user-environments, you can convert to
ext3 without reformatting, and ext2 has very poor crash recovery
compared to 3.  tune2fs -j device and it'll convert your ext2 to
ext3.

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Re: Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jan 19, 2008 5:35 AM, Jan Willem Stumpel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am especially put off by the Wikipedia article on ext3. It gives
 a rather long list of disadvantages. One of them (No
 checksumming in journal) even sounds pretty frightening. The list
 of advantages is very short, and they are mostly advantages over
 Reiserfs and other non-ext2 systems, not advantages over ext2.

ext2 and 3 are 100% identical save for the journal.  ext2 is just as
unsafe as ext3, with ext2 perhaps being less safe due to the total
lack of journaling.  That being said, I used to suffer unclean
shutdowns all the time in the 90's (family members frobbing power
switches wrecklessly) that ext2 would frequently lose data on,
switching to ext3 stopped the data loss and extreme fsck times.

 1. Is it true that ext3 always lets you recover smoothly after a
freeze and pull the plug, or after a power cut? Or are there
still ifs and buts?

There are still if's and but's, but they're small and I've yet to
experience them in the better part of a decade's use of ext3.

 2. Is significant room on the disk (or partition) taken by the
journal? By how much can I expect the disk capacity to be
reduced?

I personally don't remember the exact amount, but it is more or less
statistically insignificant with modern drive sizes.

 3. It is said ext3 is slow. Does this apply to writing only, or
also to reading?

Not sure how it's slow against perhaps the buggy and now unlikely to
receive future development ReiserFS...

 I.e., is there a danger that when I play a
film with mplayer, I'll get the dreaded message Your system is
TOO SLOW to play this?

No, that's a CPU features thing, IIRC.

 4. I have my whole Linux system, apart from swap (i.e. the root,
and everything that branches off it, like /boot, /var, /usr)
just on one logical partition. Can I still convert to ext3,
possibly by using a Knoppix or Ubuntu CD-ROM to boot from?

You can, but it's generally easier to do it on the fly... tune2fs -j
device; this can be done to mounted filesystems without consequence.

 5. Where can I find reliable, step-by-step instructions for the
conversion? There are several such instruction sites on the
Web, but I am not sure they always agree.

Step 1: Get root privileges.
Step 2: Type tune2fs -j /dev/whatever
Step 3: Remount the filesystem ext3...

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Re: la philosophie...

2008-01-19 Thread Infinitize
 
Dear François  Deviere,
 

Please excuse this rather unexpected letter. About a month  or two ago I 
received a letter from a gentleman in France, who had attended  one of my 
seminars 
on subtle energies and esoteric psychology over ten  years ago. 
Unfortunately, since I was no longer familiar with his name, I have  been 
unable to 
relocate his email (amongst the hundreds of emails I  receive).
 
I just ran into your name on my list by accident and  wondered whether you 
might be the gentleman concerned. 
 
Please forgive my importunity, but I have been trying to  locate this lost 
name for a month or two so that I could respond to his  letter.
 
Please let me know,
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President: University of the Seven  Rays







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Re: GTK update problems

2008-01-19 Thread Marty

Frank McCormick wrote:

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Anybody notice the menubar missing from apps after the latest GTK
update ?


This upgrade seems to have broken many packages.  In my case, 
multi-gnome-terminal failed to start, leaving an error message in 
.xsession-errors.  Apparently the same bug was reported here 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=%23461410

and repeated here
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=461415

The former link provides a workaround which worked for me:

On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 08:11:41 -0300, Anthony Donegan wrote:

 After security upgrade from 2:1.1.1-21etch1 to 2:1.1.1-21etch2 the program
 azureus (2.5.0.0+0-1) crashes with the following error message:

 The program 'SWT' received an X Window System error.
 This probably reflects a bug in the program.
 The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
   (Details: serial 320 error_code 11 request_code 148 minor_code 5)
   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)

Hi all,

can you confirm that adding:

Section Extensions
Option MIT-SHM no
EndSection

to your xorg.conf works around this?

Thanks,
Julien


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Re: Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 02:35:25PM +0100, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:
...
 
 But sometimes bugs in applications can cause a complete freeze of
 X, incl. keyboard and mouse. It happens to me about once a year,
 unfortunately also yesterday evening. In such a case there is
 nothing you can do but pull the plug.

Not true. Learn this:

http://www.developertutorials.com/tutorials/linux/magic-sysrq-050503/page1.html

I haven't had a post-freeze fsck since I started Alt-sysrq-s before
pulling the plug.


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Re: Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jan 19, 2008 9:39 AM, Andrew Sackville-West
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 02:35:25PM +0100, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:
 ...
 
  But sometimes bugs in applications can cause a complete freeze of
  X, incl. keyboard and mouse. It happens to me about once a year,
  unfortunately also yesterday evening. In such a case there is
  nothing you can do but pull the plug.

 Not true. Learn this:

 http://www.developertutorials.com/tutorials/linux/magic-sysrq-050503/page1.html

 I haven't had a post-freeze fsck since I started Alt-sysrq-s before
 pulling the plug.

If X eats it hard enough (and it does for me about once a month to
once every two weeks), the crash will make the magic system request
key not so magical.

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Re: alsactl names finds nothing

2008-01-19 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 19 January 2008 17:40, Florian Kulzer wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 17:04:24 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
  On Saturday 19 January 2008 15:35, Thomas H. George wrote:
   On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 01:56:46PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:

 [...]

  btw Florian, apologies for poking my nose in on this thread.

 No need to apologize for anything - the more, the merrier!

 (Anyway, I sent my follow-up 5 minutes and 13 seconds before you.
  Neener, neener neee-ner...)

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   Florian   |

I see that, and checked the mail before sending my reply, and yours wasn't 
there. Darned spam slowing things down I suppose.

Anyway, lets hope Thomas's problem is resolved.

Saturday evening, and the dog asking to go walkies. It's windy outside, but I 
suppose I have to let him have his bit of enjoyment. A sniff here, and a 
sniff there, seeing if other dogs have been walking around his patch.

It does make a break from staring at the monitor though.

Have a nice evening Florian.

Nigel.


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Re: Interesting Fetchmail Foible

2008-01-19 Thread David Baron
On Friday 18 January 2008, Александър Л. Димитров wrote:
 Quoth David Baron:
  On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Александър Л. Димитров wrote:
   Quoth David Baron:
Would there be any script, option, or such to solve this problem in a
more elegant manner and leave things alone when the network is doing
what it is supposed to do?
  
   Depends. Are you using procmail, too? If so, you might be interested in
   the following rule I have in my .procmailrc:
  
   # Dupes? Nuke'em!
  
   :0 Wh: msgid.lock
   :
   | $FORMAIL -D 8192 msgid.cache
  
   That's it. All there is to it. Just put that little beast in and all
   duplicate massages will get deleted.
 
  Great. Just put it in.
  $FORMAIL, I assume is a predefined macro for procmail?
  msgid -- do I need to install this?

 No, $FORMAIL holds the location of the 'formail' program, most likely
 /usr/bin/formail (just type `which formail', to find out).
 msgid is nothing more than a name for the file the already-retrieved
 message-ids will get stored in, nothingadditional

Thanks. I replaced $FORMAIL with /usr/bin/formail.
Locate msgid | grep cache only yields something connected with opera. Their 
are a bunch of msgid thingies connected with kde and some other things but 
these two items are not found.




One Button Backup--USB External HD

2008-01-19 Thread David Baron
From Hitachi, WD, other venders. Of course, ship with windows drivers.

Anyone used this stuff with Debian?
Possible to use as normal HD, i.e., partition it, some for compressed backups, 
i.e. squashfs or images, some for regular storage?


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Re: alsactl names finds nothing - Thanks

2008-01-19 Thread Thomas H. George
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 04:59:11PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 09:35:38 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote:
  On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 01:56:46PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
   On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 08:23:07 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote:
Suddenly no sound.  Alsamixer shows it is using the motherboard  
soundcard and the speakers are connected to the Creative Labs pci card. 
  
 
 [...]
 
 The problem might be that snd-via82xx gets loaded first and assigned
 index 0. This would block snd-emu10k1 from having that index and ALSA
 might not handle this situation gracefully. Loading firmware is another
 thing that can go wrong, although I would not expect to see the EMU10k1
 module listed at all in that case.
 
 Try to add the following two lines to /etc/modprobe.d/sound:
 
 alias snd-card-1 snd-via82xx
 options snd-via82xx index=1
 
 Then reboot and check if /proc/asound/cards lists the EMU10k1. 
 

Thanks Florian, this fixed the problem - Tom

For the record I also tried Nigel's idea of adding

install snd_via82xx /bin/true

to /etc/modprobe.d/sound but this did nothing (perhaps because he used
an underscore instead of a hyphen?) - Tom

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RSCDS and iceowl (aka sunbird)/iceowl-extension (aka lightning) timezone

2008-01-19 Thread strawks
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Hi all,

I'm now using icedove (aka thunderbird) to manage my calendars and emails.

I have a server (debian testing) with RSCDS 0.9.2 installed and it works
quite well.
For some reason, when I try to create a new event with iceowl, the
server says :
ERROR: unrecognized time zone name: /mozilla.org/20070129_1/

(while executing query SET TIMEZONE TO '/mozilla.org/20070129_1/';)

And the event is not created.

I'm in the Europe/Paris timezone.

What is strange is that this particular timezone (Europe/Paris) seems to
be the only one causing this problem. If I configure any other timezone
in iceowl it's working fine.

So at the moment I'm using the Europe/Madrid timezone.

I'm using iceowl-extension 0.7 and iceowl 0.7 on a debian unstable.

I didn't find anything related to this on google. Does anyone
encountered something similar?

regards,
strawks
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Re: Movies, household network and 54g limits... (maybe...)

2008-01-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Original Message:
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From: johnny [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 05:06:01 -0800 (PST)
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Movies, household network and 54g limits... (maybe...)


 I have no experience with wifi range extenders but it seems to me it
 should really just 'resend' the signal. If the extender is a 802.11g
 device, I'd expect it to produce the same throughput as the original
 source. I can imagine there might be some problems with both devices using
 the same channel. But that's just an uneducated guess.

They use the same channel (otherwise how communicating each other?).

I'm a bit ignorant here, only read a post of a bloke telling this...
my very uneducated guess...
I wrote to an author of a paper, as soon as I know something solid
I'll let you know.
Thanks

I have a Linksys (Cisco) range extender installed.  Yes it must use the
same channel as the router and yes it merely repeats the signal.
larry

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Re: Interesting Fetchmail Foible

2008-01-19 Thread David Baron
On Friday 18 January 2008, Александър Л. Димитров wrote:
 Quoth David Baron:
  On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Александър Л. Димитров wrote:
   Quoth David Baron:
Would there be any script, option, or such to solve this problem in a
more elegant manner and leave things alone when the network is doing
what it is supposed to do?
  
   Depends. Are you using procmail, too? If so, you might be interested in
   the following rule I have in my .procmailrc:
  
   # Dupes? Nuke'em!
  
   :0 Wh: msgid.lock
   :
   | $FORMAIL -D 8192 msgid.cache
  
   That's it. All there is to it. Just put that little beast in and all
   duplicate massages will get deleted.
 
  Great. Just put it in.
  $FORMAIL, I assume is a predefined macro for procmail?
  msgid -- do I need to install this?

 No, $FORMAIL holds the location of the 'formail' program, most likely
 /usr/bin/formail (just type `which formail', to find out).
 msgid is nothing more than a name for the file the already-retrieved
 message-ids will get stored in, nothingadditional

Thanks. I replaced $FORMAIL with /usr/bin/formail.
Locate msgid | grep cache only yields something connected with opera. Their 
are a bunch of msgid thingies connected with kde and some other things but 
these two items are not found.

Oooh! It created that cache on my home directory.
Is this where it belongs? Seem to be this stuff belongs somewhere on /var...




Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread Larry Fletcher
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
 Larry writes:
  What I'm thinking is maybe Verizon gives people different modems.  My
  modem says it's a DSL2+Router, so maybe it would work if it was just a
  DSL2 modem without the Router?

 Pppoeconfig will work if the modem is configured for bridge mode (like
 mine) but not if it is configured as a router (like yours).  I suggest
 that you follow Mike Bird's advice below.  You are making it more complex
 than it is.

Going by the replies I've received, if I use DHCP I will have to use
IE to set the username and password in the modem (the IE I have
running under Wine can't access the modem).  I think this is probably
true, because I don't see a way to enter the username and password in
dhclient.conf.  Should the username be entered in the modem as just
'user' or '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'? 

I'll try to setup DHCP without a password and see if it works, but it
will take awhile to figure this out.

I do know someone that uses Windows and they live close enough that I
might be able to use their computer to set the modem.  The techs at
Verizon say I could change the modem from router mode to bridge mode
using IE, but then I would have to use a router with the modem, which
I don't have don't want to do.  So is it possible to use the modem in
bridge mode with pppoe and not use a router?  If so, it seems like it
might be better this way because then I will probably be able to see
the transfer rate on my toolbar.  But then it might be faster using
DHCP.  Does using the modem in router mode protect the computer better
than using it in bridge mode?

Anyway this is still pretty confusing to me, so I hope I'll be able
to figure it out in the next couple of weeks.

Thanks for the help so far,

   Larry


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RE: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Original Message:
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From: Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:51:29 -0800
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL


I've been using Debian with dial-up for about 8 years and it's getting
pretty slow, so I thought I would try DSL.  The problem is I have
absolutely no understanding of how DSL works.  If I could get a
connection I don't even understand how the browsers, etc. know how to
use it.  And this is after reading the docs, searching Google and the
Debian list, etc.  Is there a good step by step guide somewhere?

When I run pppoeconf I get: the Access Concentrator of your provider
did not respond.  I have also tried pppoe-setup.  At this point, I
really wonder if the modem is even connected to the computer.  Is
there a way to check it?

I have no idea what to do next, so any help would be greatly
appreciated.

The following is what I have so far and I know I'm not even close
because Apache, FTP, and Dict no longer work.

Westell 6100 modem   DSL2+Router

I have added my password information to chap-secrets
and pap-secrets.

Syslog
-
eth0: SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet at 0xdc00, IRQ 11, 00:d0:09:c9:6d:94

lsmod
-
pppoe  14528  0
pppox   3720  1 pppoe
sis900 20612  0


/etc/network/interfaces:
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

iface eth0 inet dhcp

auto dsl-provider
iface dsl-provider inet ppp
 provider dsl-provider
 pre-up /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up # line maintained by pppoeconf


lotek:~# ifup eth0
Internet Software Consortium DHCP Client 2.0pl5

ppp0: unknown hardware address type 512
ppp1: unknown hardware address type 512
sit0: unknown hardware address type 776
ppp0: unknown hardware address type 512
ppp1: unknown hardware address type 512
sit0: unknown hardware address type 776
Listening on LPF/eth0/00:18:3a:f7:c4:14
Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:18:3a:f7:c4:14
Sending on   Socket/fallback/fallback-net
DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1
bound to 192.168.1.47 -- renewal in 43200 seconds.


lotek:~# ifconfig -a
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:3A:F7:C4:14  
  inet addr:192.168.1.47  Bcast:255.255.255.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::218:3aff:fef7:c414/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:12088 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:150 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:725852 (708.8 KiB)  TX bytes:8530 (8.3 KiB)
  Interrupt:11 Base address:0xdc00 

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  LOOPBACK  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:1718 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:1718 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:123662 (120.7 KiB)  TX bytes:123662 (120.7 KiB)

ppp1  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol  
  POINTOPOINT NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

sit0  Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4  
  NOARP  MTU:1480  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

there are several versions of DSL.  The most common uses what is known as
discrete multitone modulation.  The spectrum of the cable is divided
into frequency bins.  The bottom-most bin is used for POTS (Plain old
telephone service).  The upper bins are divided into several hundred
channels, some of which are used for transmitting-Upstream and the rest
are used for receiving-Downstream.  Regularly the downstream channels
exceed the upstream channels giving rise to the term Asymmetric in ADSL. 
In each bin the spectrum is used much like that of a conventional modem. 
However prior to the transmission of actual data the DSL modem at the
customer's premesis and that at the ISP (usually called a DSLAM) exchange
signals in an attempt to maximize the bit rate in each bin (independently).
Once the bit rate is established control is passed to a higher level
protocol, usually the Point-to Point protocol (PPP) which provides the
connectivity and in some cases authentication (logon) and info exchange
(e.g. DNS, default router).  Hope this helps.
Larry



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How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Pantor

Lads,

would you be able to advice, please, how to use idiotcal program Mutt?
For example, how to configure mail account settings?
Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all?

Thank you.

Regards,

Andrius


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Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 01/19/08 12:47, Pantor wrote:
 Lads,
 
 would you be able to advice, please, how to use idiotcal program Mutt?
 For example, how to configure mail account settings?
 Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all?

Before we answer, tell us how much you've searched Google for Mutt
tutorials and .muttrc examples.

Then we know what else you need to learn.

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Jefferson LA  USA

I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian
because I hate vegetables!
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Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Pantor

Ron Johnson wrote:

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On 01/19/08 12:47, Pantor wrote:

Lads,

would you be able to advice, please, how to use idiotcal program Mutt?
For example, how to configure mail account settings?
Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all?


Before we answer, tell us how much you've searched Google for Mutt
tutorials and .muttrc examples.

Then we know what else you need to learn.

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Jefferson LA  USA

I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian
because I hate vegetables!
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Yesterday I spend about one and half hour in reading newbie manual. 
Nothing clear was found. Only plain theology with some philosophical 
aspects about mailing system as it is.



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Re: alsactl names finds nothing - Thanks

2008-01-19 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 13:20:37 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 04:59:11PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:

[...]

  The problem might be that snd-via82xx gets loaded first and assigned
  index 0. This would block snd-emu10k1 from having that index and ALSA
  might not handle this situation gracefully. Loading firmware is another
  thing that can go wrong, although I would not expect to see the EMU10k1
  module listed at all in that case.
  
  Try to add the following two lines to /etc/modprobe.d/sound:
  
  alias snd-card-1 snd-via82xx
  options snd-via82xx index=1
  
  Then reboot and check if /proc/asound/cards lists the EMU10k1. 
  
 
 Thanks Florian, this fixed the problem - Tom

I am glad to hear that it worked. If you ever need to switch to the
onboard soundchip quickly then you can do that in your ~/.asoundrc file
without having to change the system configuration:

http://alsa.opensrc.org/FAQ026

 For the record I also tried Nigel's idea of adding
 
 install snd_via82xx /bin/true
 
 to /etc/modprobe.d/sound but this did nothing (perhaps because he used
 an underscore instead of a hyphen?) - Tom

AFAIK, the underscore and the hyphen/minus are equivalent in module
names for most (all?) intents and purposes.

Sometimes we have cases here in which blacklisting (that would be
blacklist snd-via82xx in your case) and/or the /bin/true trick do not
seem to work. A brute-force method to get rid of a cumbersome module is
to delete the corresponding *.ko file in /lib/modules/$(uname -r) and to
remove it form the initrd if necessary.

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RAID5 in three easy steps

2008-01-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You know, after reading all the howtos and such, I created a RAID 5
array with just three commands

(after creating the partitions with fdisk)
mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sda1 /dev/
sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1
mkfs.ext3 /dev/md0
/usr/share/mdadm/mkconf  /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf


Why does there need to be a 100 page howto when it's just three
commands?

I know that managing the array and recovering from a failure is more
involved than this, but seriously, i was amazed at how easy this was.

Thanks to the people who answered previous questions and got me up and
running.


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Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Gerard Robin

On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote:

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Subject: How to use Mutt?
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Lads,

would you be able to advice, please, how to use idiotcal program Mutt?
For example, how to configure mail account settings?
Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all?


Mutt is an excellent MUA. (Mail User Agent) 
If mutt is installed on your box go to: /usr/share/doc/mutt/exemples

to see examples of files .muttrc (the file of configuration of mutt)
To get your mails you need fetchmail. (man fetchmail)
To split up your mails use procmail. (man procmail)

and follow the advice of R. J.
http://wiki.mutt.org/?MuttWiki
hth.
--
Gérard



Re: OT: How to detect a keypress, and in which language?

2008-01-19 Thread Wayne Topa
Kent West([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 Kent West wrote:
 All I want to do is to detect two keys, say the left- and right-shift 
 keys, or the  and  keys. For one key, a short dit audio tone would be 
 generated, and for the other key, a longer dah audio tone would be 
 generated. I need to bypass the keyboard buffer, so that holding down the 
 dit key for two seconds doesn't generate 30 dits; it should produce dits 
 while the key is held down, but once the key is let up, the dits should 
 immediately stop (after finishing the one it's on).


 IFAIK you've hit upon the one problem in cross-platform programming, 
 access to the speaker for variable duration (dit and dah).

 I would use Qt and that makes keypresses easy to detect, but not sound of 
 variable duration, unless you don't mind recording a dit.wav and a dah.wav 
 and then the problem is easy again.

 Ah, this is the info I needed. Basically what I'm hearing is that it can't 
 be done, easily, cross-platform, suitably for giving my fellow hams a taste 
 of programming.

 Bummer.

This may not be what your looking for either Kent, but...

Install the beep package.  Then, using bash, write a program to output
to the case speaker like this.

A=/usr/bin/beep -l 80 -f 1000 ;sleep .1;/usr/bin/beep -d 100 -l 250  -f 1000
B=/usr/bin/beep -d 100 -l 250 -f 1000 ; sleep .1;/usr/bin/beep -l 80 -r 3 -f 
1000
etc

I have 'UP' sent every 5 minutes if I'm connected to the net (dialup).

Sorry if this is waaay OT.

Wayne  WA1BBB

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Re: XServer taken down by Wine segfaults

2008-01-19 Thread Jonathan Doe
On Saturday 19 January 2008 07:41:04 am Александър Л. Димитров wrote:
 Probably I should mention I'm using the binary nvidia drivers. Did not try
 it with other drivers yet, but I don't think that should have any impact on
 it - it fails with _anything_ just running wine is enough to bring that
 down.

I had this same problem last month. Sometimes, when xorg is upgraded, the 
binary nvidia drivers need to be reinstalled to get opengl rendering to work 
(wine runs direct draw or something that using opengl). If this is the case, 
running glxgears will also crash your xserver. The solution is to reinstall 
the binary nvidia drivers.

MM



Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote:
 Lads,

 would you be able to advice, please, how to use idiotcal program Mutt?

I do not know if you are serious.  See man mutt and man muttrc as
starter.  Read http://www.mutt.org/

 For example, how to configure mail account settings?

vim ~/.muttrc

 Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all?

I hope not ...


Good luck.

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Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Pantor

Ron Johnson wrote:

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On 01/19/08 13:03, Pantor wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 01/19/08 12:47, Pantor wrote:
Lads,

would you be able to advice, please, how to use idiotcal program Mutt?
For example, how to configure mail account settings?
Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all?

Before we answer, tell us how much you've searched Google for Mutt
tutorials and .muttrc examples.

Then we know what else you need to learn.

Yesterday I spend about one and half hour in reading newbie manual.
Nothing clear was found. Only plain theology with some philosophical
aspects about mailing system as it is.


Nah.  Boring stuff.  Have you created a .muttrc file yet?

http://www.muttrcbuilder.org/

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Will try to do now.


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Re: Re: Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Paul Johnson wrote:

 Step 1: Get root privileges.
 Step 2: Type tune2fs -j /dev/whatever
 Step 3: Remount the filesystem ext3...

I did this, and indeed it was amazingly easy. On a partition of
about 24 G (well, this is an *old* disk!) a file /.journal of 128
M (indeed much less than 1%) was created instantaneously. Now
mount -l shows that I have an ext3 system.

What I did was (may have been over-cautious):

Step 1: close all applications, close X, get into a console.
Step 2: get root privileges.
Step 3: close the SMB connection to my wife's Windows machine.
Step 4: /etc/init.d/networking stop
Step 5: edit /etc/fstab; change ext2 to ext3 for my root device
(/dev/hda5 in my case).
Step 6: type tune2fs -j /dev/hda5. The journal was created
instantaneously (I'd expected this to take a long time.
but it did not).
Step 7: reboot.

Some steps may have been unnecessary, but it seems I have a
working ext3 system now. It is really easy. The real smoke test
will come, of course, when I pull the plug. Will do this now; if
you do not hear from me, the test will have failed. Thanks to all
who responded!

Regards, Jan


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Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:

 Some steps may have been unnecessary, but it seems I have a
 working ext3 system now. It is really easy. The real smoke test
 will come, of course, when I pull the plug. Will do this now; if
 you do not hear from me, the test will have failed. Thanks to all
 who responded!

And it worked! I rudely pulled the plug when X and its apps were
still active, and after restoring the voltage the system rebooted
without any complaints. Hugo, you should convert to ext3 as well.

Regards, Jan


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what is the difference between hostap and linux-wlan drivers?

2008-01-19 Thread tom arnall
I am configuring a Senao 2511 wireless card (prism2.5 chipset) and keep 
bumping into descriptions of both the hostap and linux-wlan(-ng) drivers for 
the chipset. what is the difference?

tom arnall
arcata



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Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Curt Howland
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On Saturday 19 January 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel was heard to say:
 Step 6: type tune2fs -j /dev/hda5. The journal was created
 instantaneously (I'd expected this to take a long time.
 but it did not).

If I may interject, creating the journal just creates a blank file.

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Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 01/19/08 13:04, Osamu Aoki wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote:
[snip]
 
 Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all?
 
 I hope not ...

Especially for those times when you are rudely reminded why Sid is
Unstable, and you are not able use your favorite GUI MUA.

(That is, of course, if your email is stored in a non-MUA specific
subdirectory.  I like imap, since it lets me access my email from
any MUA on any machine in the house...)

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Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread Larry Fletcher
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
  I've been using Debian with dial-up for about 8 years and it's getting
  pretty slow, so I thought I would try DSL.  The problem is I have
  absolutely no understanding of how DSL works.  If I could get a
  connection I don't even understand how the browsers, etc. know how to
  use it.  And this is after reading the docs, searching Google and the
  Debian list, etc.  Is there a good step by step guide somewhere?

 there are several versions of DSL.  The most common uses what is known as
 discrete multitone modulation.  The spectrum of the cable is divided
 into frequency bins.  The bottom-most bin is used for POTS (Plain old
 telephone service).  The upper bins are divided into several hundred
 channels, some of which are used for transmitting-Upstream and the rest
 are used for receiving-Downstream.  Regularly the downstream channels
 exceed the upstream channels giving rise to the term Asymmetric in ADSL. 
 In each bin the spectrum is used much like that of a conventional modem. 
 However prior to the transmission of actual data the DSL modem at the
 customer's premesis and that at the ISP (usually called a DSLAM) exchange
 signals in an attempt to maximize the bit rate in each bin (independently).
 Once the bit rate is established control is passed to a higher level
 protocol, usually the Point-to Point protocol (PPP) which provides the
 connectivity and in some cases authentication (logon) and info exchange
 (e.g. DNS, default router).  Hope this helps.

This is interesting.  I just wish I was a little closer to getting
everything configured correctly.

Thank you and thanks to everyone else that has tried to help.

  Larry


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Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 01/19/08 13:44, Curt Howland wrote:
 On Saturday 19 January 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel was heard to say:
 Step 6: type tune2fs -j /dev/hda5. The journal was created
 instantaneously (I'd expected this to take a long time.
 but it did not).
 
 If I may interject, creating the journal just creates a blank file.

So when does the journaling begin?  At remount?
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Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Curt Howland wrote:

 If I may interject, creating the journal just creates a blank
 file.

This would explain why creating the journal does not seem to take
any time. But strings showed that there was a lot of stuff (at
least lots of filenames) in it. Perhaps the journal is *created*
as a blank file, and then some background process immediately
begins to fill it? Anyway, whatever it does, it seems to be a very
clever system.

Regards, Jan


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Volume off every time entering X (was: No volume in my Etch box!)

2008-01-19 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Rodolfo Medina [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On my laptop I installed x-window-system-core and gnome-core and the volume
 control small icon top right on Gnome desktop looks all right.  Instead, on
 my desktop PC the same icon is not active, and when I left-click it the
 following message appears:

 -
 The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to
 control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer
 plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.

 You can remove the volume control from the panel by right-clicking the
 speaker icon on the panel and selecting Remove From Panel from the
 menu.
 -

 .  Do you think that the sound card is not recognized by Etch?  I hope not.
 Does anyone please have any suggestion?  I don't know what to do.



 It seems the problem was due to the fact that the user did not belong to the
 `audio' group.  So, it should be enough to do:

  # adduser user audio

 , then log out and in again.



It seems that that small icon top right in gnome panel will let me angry.  Now
on my desktop PC it's fine, but on my laptop that damned icon shows the `mute'
state every time I log in the X again.  It must be something with Gnome
settings, but I don't know how to fix it.  Any hint from anyone?

Rodolfo


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Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 02:27:23PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 01/19/08 13:44, Curt Howland wrote:
 
  If I may interject, creating the journal just creates a blank file.
 
 So when does the journaling begin?  At remount?

Perhaps on the next write once it is mounted as ext3?  When the journal
is created, the filesystem is still mounted ext2 (if at all).  

Doug.


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Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Paul Johnson
To the other Mr. Johnson, sorry for the double, I botched the
reply/reply to list distinction there.

On Jan 19, 2008 12:27 PM, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 01/19/08 13:44, Curt Howland wrote:
  On Saturday 19 January 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel was heard to say:
  Step 6: type tune2fs -j /dev/hda5. The journal was created
  instantaneously (I'd expected this to take a long time.
  but it did not).
 
  If I may interject, creating the journal just creates a blank file.

 So when does the journaling begin?  At remount?

IIRC, journaling begins at remount.  If it happens before that, I
never got the memo on the change.

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Re: rsync 10 times slower in Etch than in Sarge!

2008-01-19 Thread Rodolfo Medina
on Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 12:16:28PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

  Why issue a 'sync' instead of just unmounting and waiting until the
  thing stops flashing?
 


On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 09:24:22AM -0900, Ken Irving [EMAIL PROTECTED] was 
heard
to say:

 sync blocks, so you can tell from the command line when the job is done.


Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   So does umount.  (I see you said that below, but I wanted to underline
 it again; it looks like Rudolfo overlooked it)  After umount
 completes, it's safe to remove the stick.



I didn't overlook this, but:

1) in my experience, some time ago I used to extract the pendrive after
   `umount' completes and the device often got corrupted.  When I asked this
   list for help to recover it, someone suggested to apply the `sync' option
   to the mount option: since then I put that option in my fstab, until this
   thread advised not to do so;

2) I measured the time, and it seems to me that the `sync' command takes a
   little longer than `umount' to stop.

For these two reasons I presume that it is not safe to extract the device just
after `umounting' and without the sync option in fstab.

What do you think?

Thanks,
Rodolfo


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