Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Email addresses on a company webpage?

2003-09-15 Thread Matthew Bramble
Dan, The best practice is to advertise generic addresses, and don't subscribe such addresses to anything. Then you know that harvested addresses will likely be those on your site, and you can weight them higher, or fail on a lower score, whichever. At least that's what I do. I also

[Declude.JunkMail] Missing text with a filter BADHEADERS error

2003-09-15 Thread Matthew Bramble
Scott, Is there a limit to how far down a file the text filters will search? I've come across a few examples where a text filter of: BODY 0 CONTAINS base64 ...didn't hit when it was actually in the message as text. In the most recent example, this was 72,486 characters into the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Missing text with a filter BADHEADERS error

2003-09-15 Thread Matthew Bramble
Thanks for the answers. I would imagine that it makes a lot of sense to limit it at 32 K. The root of my issue then becomes Microsoft Word's unbelievably bloated code. If they can't construct a simple E-mail without 500% overhead in their tagging, I can see why Linux people laugh about

[Declude.JunkMail] GIBBERISH and GIBBERISHSUB filters updated

2003-09-15 Thread Matthew Bramble
They're still a work in progress of course, but most of the major sources of FP's seem to have been fixed. The major changes are that the tests have both been split into two files, on for positives, and one for counterbalancing false positives. This reduces the possibility of crediting too

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Timing out with latest Microsoft patch

2003-09-15 Thread Matthew Bramble
Keith, you have good stories. BTW, I was one of those folks working in Corporate CYA America was a webmaster. I didn't last long. Couldn't stand the way things worked. Our firewall administrator didn't even know the basics of TCP/IP, and it took several weeks and meetings to get him to stop

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A slight increase in spam not getting caught thanks to Network Solutions

2003-09-15 Thread Matthew Bramble
Good call Keith. I don't know what the proper address would be, but the following article says that it can be blocked: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/030915/internet_typos_1.html If you were correct, you would probably have to do this in your DNS server. Maybe set up reverse DNS for that block.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A slight increase in spam not getting caught thanks to Network Solutions

2003-09-15 Thread Matthew Bramble
Ignore my earlier reverse DNS thoughts, that doesn't make any sense :) I certainly have my moments. I think the article is also wrong by saying that DNS could be used to defeat this. I'm betting that providers like AOL are just simply configuring that block of addresses to point to their own

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A slight increase in spam not getting caught thanks to Network Solutions

2003-09-15 Thread Matthew Bramble
I think a better filter might be: BODY 100 CONTAINS verisign HEADERS 100 CONTAINS verisign HELO 100 CONTAINS verisign MAILFROM 100 CONTAINS verisign REMOTEIP 100 CONTAINS verisign REVDNS 100 CONTAINS verisign ALLRECIPS 100 CONTAINS verisign SUBJECT 100

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] GIBBERISH and GIBBERISHSUB filters updated

2003-09-16 Thread Matthew Bramble
- Original Message - From: "Matthew Bramble" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:29 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] GIBBERISH and GIBBERISHSUB filters updated They're still a work in progress of course, but most of the major sources of

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Character set/unicode testing?

2003-09-16 Thread Matthew Bramble
Mark, Such E-mail should be tagged in the message header. Even your message got sent in charset=koi8-r, though I have seen at least one other Cyrillic characterset. Here's a page full of them: http://czyborra.com/charsets/cyrillic.html I would imagine that if you have no customers speaking

[Declude.JunkMail] GIBBERISH - 09/16/2003 filter update

2003-09-16 Thread Matthew Bramble
I think that I've stumbled onto a large source of false positives in legitimate bulk mail. Instead of listing individual mailers that offend in many cases, it turns out that these are often customers of one of a few companies, CheetahMail and SilverPOP. Each of these companies uses URL's in

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Disposable Domains

2003-09-16 Thread Matthew Bramble
Dan, That would be a valuable test IMO, however I think there might be issues with load since I am not aware of a standard method of caching whois lookups. Because whois output also comes in many forms (as opposed to DNS) it would be process intensive to grab the registration date. Then

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OBFUSCATION filter

2003-09-16 Thread Matthew Bramble
;#1086;#1085;#1082;#1080; #1079;#1072;#1088;#1091;#1073;#1077;#1078;! Mike - Original Message - From: Matthew Bramble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OBFUSCATION filter Pete, It's not redundant because

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OBFUSCATION filter

2003-09-16 Thread Matthew Bramble
1074;#1086;#1085;#1082;#1080; #1079;#1072;#1088;#1091;#1073;#1077;#1078;! Mike - Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Bramble" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OBFUSCATION filter Pete, It's n

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WHITELIST AUTH / HABEAS

2003-09-17 Thread Matthew Bramble
I'm using IMail 7.13 at the moment and this is what I get for a message that I AUTHed: QC:\IMail\spool\D94de0163018e1cda.SMD Higaia.com We:\mail.igaia.com E0, S[EMAIL PROTECTED] NRCPT TO:hidden Rhidden Doesn't look to be in there. Maybe I should upgrade my version and try again? I see

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A slight increase in spam not getting caught thanks to Network Solutions thanks to Network Solutions

2003-09-17 Thread Matthew Bramble
False positives will come from users that misspell their domain name in their mail client. I have had that happen. There are also lots of forms being used on Web sites that take the user's input and construct a message using their address as the From in order to facilitate replies, and I can

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A slight increase in spam not getting caught thanks to Network Solutions thanks to Network Solutions

2003-09-17 Thread Matthew Bramble
seen many issues with devices or software that manage their own SMTP. Hope this helps. Matt Joshua Levitsky wrote: On Sep 17, 2003, at 2:59 PM, Matthew Bramble wrote: False positives will come from users that misspell their domain name in their mail client. I have had that happen

[Declude.JunkMail] DYNAMIC - 09/17/2003 - A new filter to detect IP'd reverse DNS entries

2003-09-17 Thread Matthew Bramble
Ok, I've been testing this one for about a week with very positive results. It's still a work in progress as far as exclusions go (candidates welcome), but I have been using it with a good deal of success as is for the past week. The filter is called DYNAMIC and it can be downloaded at the

[Declude.JunkMail] GIBBERISH - 09/17/2003 update, fixes Outlook read receipts

2003-09-17 Thread Matthew Bramble
New versions of GIBBERISH and ANTIGIBBERISH have been posted after someone pointed out a false positive coming from the Outlook mail client for read receipts that have a marker filled with gibberish-ish text. The new filter files can be downloaded at the following locations: GIBBERISH and

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DYNAMIC - 09/17/2003 - A new filter to detect IP'd reverse DNS entries IP'd reverse DNS entries

2003-09-17 Thread Matthew Bramble
Any thoughts? Todd Holt Xidix Technologies, Inc Las Vegas, NV USA www.xidix.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DYNAMIC - 09/17/2003 - A new filter to detect IP'd reverse DNS entries IP'd reverse DNS entries

2003-09-17 Thread Matthew Bramble
It was purposeful because I wanted to protect from false positives. If there are enough of those, we could of course add tests or maybe even mark the domain in some cases. It's helpful to also know their policy on outbound SMTP and mail server hosting if available. I think that the following

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DYNAMIC - 09/17/2003 - A new filter to detect IP'd reverse DNS entries IP'd reverse DNS entries detect IP'd reverse DNS entries IP'd reverse DNS entries IP'd reverse DNS entries IP'd reverse DNS entries detect IP'd reverse DNS entries IP'd reverse DNS entries

2003-09-17 Thread Matthew Bramble
Thanks for the pointer on Charter. If I wasn't whitelisting you for this listserv, you would still only score a -1 for most any message because of negative weighting on your mx and legit content after failing DYNAMIC. Matt R. Scott Perry wrote: One thing that I'm looking into right now is

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DYNAMIC - 09/17/2003 - A new filter to detect IP'd reverse DNS entries IP'd reverse DNS entries

2003-09-17 Thread Matthew Bramble
with the DYNAMIC filter. Legit mail should also pass even if it fails all three filters because of negative weighting. Matt Joshua Levitsky wrote: On Sep 17, 2003, at 8:21 PM, Matthew Bramble wrote: I think that the following is a candidate for exclusion: rrcs-nys

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Any takers on identifying valid comcast.net outbound mail hosts? outbound mail hosts?

2003-09-17 Thread Matthew Bramble
It would probably be safe to negative score on the following: REVDNS-10ENDSWITH1.comcast.net REVDNS-10ENDSWITH2.comcast.net REVDNS-10ENDSWITH3.comcast.net REVDNS-10ENDSWITH4.comcast.net REVDNS-10

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DYNAMIC - 09/17/2003 - A new filter to detect IP'd reverse DNS entries IP'd reverse DNS entries

2003-09-17 Thread Matthew Bramble
Actually, you don't get scored with this filter. You would need to have dashes or dots on both sides of a number. Even if you did, you would have a real tough time scoring anything over 1 coming to my machine. Your mileage may vary of course. Also, I can't see why it would be even workable to

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DYNAMIC - 09/17/2003 - A new filter to detect IP'd reverse DNS entries IP'd reverse DNS entries

2003-09-17 Thread Matthew Bramble
Oops, my bad, the 224 is a reference to your class B. That is dumb, but at least they didn't make it look like a dial-up IP. You still wouldn't score though :) Matt Matthew Bramble wrote: Actually, you don't get scored with this filter. You would need to have dashes or dots on both

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bad header question

2003-09-17 Thread Matthew Bramble
Josh is right. Declude doesn't like seeing IP addresses in Message ID headers. I see FP's from BADHEADERS for the same. There's another issue though...SPAMHEADERS get's triggered for exactly the same reason. I found something buried in the release notes though that allows you to make this only

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bad header question

2003-09-18 Thread Matthew Bramble
Thanks a bunch for the clarification. It's just unfortunate that programs that make the mistake of using an IP as a hostname and not including a message ID end up failing so many important tests. I recently been seeing about 2 different senders each week that will FP for this reason (but no

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DYNAMIC - 09/17/2003 - A new filter to detect IP'd reverse DNS entries IP'd reverse DNS entries IP'd reverse DNS entries IP'd reverse DNS entries

2003-09-18 Thread Matthew Bramble
30, but why 30? And finally, what about those that pad with zero's? i.e. 192-168-054-003.dynamic.isp.tld. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:25 PM

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RevDNS

2003-09-19 Thread Matthew Bramble
It might be easier to get them to act as a secondary for your reverse DNS. ISP's don't typically like to delegate control of such things. It works just as effectively and DNS's auto notification features allow my changes for instance to be published immediately to the ISP's authoritative DNS

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] blocking spam faked as coming from local a ddress ddress

2003-09-19 Thread Matthew Bramble
I get more valid E-mail's faking the from to look like it's from one of my users than I get in actual spam that is doing this. In a recent test of 5,530 unique incoming messages, only 6 spammers tried to look as if it was coming from my server, that's only 0.1%. It all failed as well. I

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] attachment problems

2003-09-19 Thread Matthew Bramble
I have an attachment filter that adds score when something is received attached but not inline. The problem with this is that it also helps viruses get through spam blocking (I plan on improving this). The filter is simple: BODY-5CONTAINScontent-disposition: attachment I have

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] attachment problems

2003-09-19 Thread Matthew Bramble
Just to follow-up in case it helps Andy in the event he is unfamiliar with the setting. I used to get a lot of calls when Microsoft started blocking all executable attachments by default with Outlook Express 6. In Microsoft Outlook Express: Tools Security Uncheck: Do not allow attachments

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] blocking spam faked as coming from local a ddress ddress ddress ddress

2003-09-19 Thread Matthew Bramble
rarely. Are you not seeing the same very low incidence of this type of thing? or is that unique to my own customer base? Matt Bill Landry wrote: - Original Message - From: Matthew Bramble I highly recommend not filtering the fake MAILFROM for your local domains. Why

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] blocking spam faked as coming from local address

2003-09-19 Thread Matthew Bramble
Airline Tickets + $100 Cash Back 1 Subject: 3 months of FREE Satellite TV 1 Subject: 0% Auto Loans! 1 Subject: you are *approved already. No credit check Looks like a very effective test to me. Bill - Original Message - From: Matthew Bramble To: [EMAIL

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] blocking spam faked as coming from local address

2003-09-19 Thread Matthew Bramble
suggested, but some of the FP's produced would be problematic with a few regular senders that fail multiple technical tests. Matt Matthew Bramble wrote: Bill, It depends on your customer makup. My FP rate with a MAILFROM filter would be close to 90% if not more because of several sites

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] blocking spam faked as coming from local address

2003-09-20 Thread Matthew Bramble
ets + $100 Cash Back 1 Subject: 3 months of FREE Satellite TV 1 Subject: 0% Auto Loans! 1 Subject: you are *approved already. No credit check Looks like a very effective test to me. Bill - Original Message - From: Matthew Bramble To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Re:COUNTRY test

2003-09-20 Thread Matthew Bramble
David Dodell wrote: How to you list multiple countries? COUNTRIES CONTAINS 5 kr,cn ?? Just one string per line and make sure there are no characters following the country code. COUNTRIESCONTAINS5kr COUNTRIESCONTAINS5cn --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] blocking spam faked as coming from local address

2003-09-20 Thread Matthew Bramble
do not want. Anyway, what works for me in my battle to fight spam may not work for you, and vise versa. BTW, the search string I used to output this file is shown at the top of the attached file. Bill - Original Message - From: Matthew Bram

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Re:COUNTRY test

2003-09-21 Thread Matthew Bramble
Just in case you didn't notice and used my example over Scott's (which is generally not recommended), I had the points out of place in my example (yours did also). Matt Matthew Bramble wrote: David Dodell wrote: How to you list multiple countries? COUNTRIES CONTAINS 5 kr,cn ?? Just one

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] VeriGrime

2003-09-21 Thread Matthew Bramble
There are two different classes though of TLD's in question though, gTLD's and ccTLD's. The only other offending gTLD is the .museum domain, and efforts to wildcard .biz was stopped by ICANN. Some of the ccTLD's are being used generically, however it seems that ICANN is going about this as an

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] VeriGrime

2003-09-21 Thread Matthew Bramble
are found unacceptable for gTLD's then .museum should also stop, countries should also stop. The accaptable rules for DNS should not change due to the fact you are a country. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matthew

[Declude.JunkMail] VeriSteal is stealing traffic from your domain.

2003-09-21 Thread Matthew Bramble
I didn't realize this until a second ago, but VeriCorrupt is stealing traffic from every domain name out there on the Internet, regardless of the extension, and regardless of whether or not it is registered. Want to see something else that's quite strange?

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] blocking spam faked as coming from local address

2003-09-22 Thread Matthew Bramble
: - Original Message - From: Matthew Bramble Let's keep in mind that the discussion has changed from the original topic of MAILFROM Forged to VERP + Forged. Yep, my bad. Is that a fair enough presentation? Yes, very nice analysis! Based

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] VeriSteal is stealing traffic from your domain.

2003-09-22 Thread Matthew Bramble
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 01:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] VeriSteal is stealing traffic from your domain. I didn't realize this until a second ago, but VeriCorrupt is stealing traffic from every domain name out

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] VeriSteal is stealing traffic from your domain.

2003-09-22 Thread Matthew Bramble
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble Sent: 22. september 2003 08:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] VeriSteal is stealing traffic from your domain. Very strange. I just confirmed that it happens from both Netscape and IE on both local computers

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] blocking spam faked as coming from local address

2003-09-22 Thread Matthew Bramble
among others). I already have some issues with this stuff FP'ing and bounces aren't useful in the second instance. Matt Bill Landry wrote: - Original Message - From: Matthew Bramble Thanks for the link to the GNU stuff. I might be asking for some help writing useful strings

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] VeriSteal is stealing traffic from your domain.

2003-09-22 Thread Matthew Bramble
this is proof of why you shouldn't wildcard from the root servers? Matt ISPhuset Nordic AS wrote: what dns are u using ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble Sent: 22. september 2003 08:05

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] VeriSteal is stealing traffic from your domain.

2003-09-22 Thread Matthew Bramble
t;DNS Client" service disabled. We setup all machines with it off by default now, because it has caused nothing but problems for us in the past by caching bogus info. Good luck! Bill - Original Message - From: Matthew Bramble To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] VeriSteal is stealing traffic from your domain.

2003-09-22 Thread Matthew Bramble
AD going to get this? AD must be configured correctly or else problems will come up when you least expect it. John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA Engineer/Consultant eServices For You www.eservicesforyou.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matthew

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] VeriSteal is stealing traffic from your domain.

2003-09-22 Thread Matthew Bramble
weeks cost them big money to fix this From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble Sent: 22. september 2003 20:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISPhuset Nordic / Benny Samuelsen wrote: Thats why you are supposed to use fex .loc

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] VeriSteal is stealing traffic from your domain.

2003-09-22 Thread Matthew Bramble
afe, but by no means assured at this point. Matt Joshua Levitsky wrote: On Sep 22, 2003, at 3:05 PM, Matthew Bramble wrote: do see the reasoning in either owning the domain or using a fake TLD. Eventually the fake TLDs though could come back and haunt users if they are ever allo

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Another very effective filter test

2003-09-22 Thread Matthew Bramble
Bill, This looks to be more promising than filtering for forged MAILFROM's (because of the FP's that exist there). The spam that has gotten through which forged the MAILFROM also forged the HELO, while the legit stuff had appropriate HELO's listed. I have one issue though that others might

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Another very effective filter test

2003-09-22 Thread Matthew Bramble
Bill, One other very important note. You need to be using IMail 8, WHITELIST AUTH with Declude 1.76b and make sure that all the mail clients are configured to use SMTP AUTH, otherwise intra-server E-mail is going to get tagged. I can't use this in it's present form because I'm using IMail 7

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Another very effective filter test

2003-09-23 Thread Matthew Bramble
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 2:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Another very effective filter test Here's an example of what I'm talking about: Received: from nycars.com [24.92.238.169] by igaia.com with ESMTP I

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Understanding Return Codes

2003-09-23 Thread Matthew Bramble
Keith, I believe that the asterisk means that any IP returned is a match. I have several of these configured in my Global.cfg file and they're at least working :) DSBLip4rlist.dsbl.org *70 ORDBip4rrelays.ordb.org *7

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Understanding Return Codes

2003-09-23 Thread Matthew Bramble
- From: "Matthew Bramble" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe other "unlisted" entries reflect similar circumstances (not available under normal circumstances)? All of the DNSBLs (ip4r) and RHSBLs listed on the Declude spam databases site (http://www.declude.

[Declude.JunkMail] What's wrong with SpamCop?

2003-09-24 Thread Matthew Bramble
Is it me, or did SpamCop suddenly become awful when it comes to false positives with almost anything that is sent in bulk? I've recently seen them tag PayPal, ActivePDF newsletters, Match.com and even the local chamber of commerce (which only sends to members w/opt-out). If they ever start

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Understanding Return Codes

2003-09-24 Thread Matthew Bramble
to work with. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: Matthew Bramble [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Understanding Return Codes Maybe it was just down on the day I

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] What's wrong with SpamCop?

2003-09-24 Thread Matthew Bramble
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matthew Bramble Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] What's wrong with SpamCop? Is it me, or did SpamCop suddenly become awful when it comes to false positives with almost anything that is sent

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] What's wrong with SpamCop?

2003-09-24 Thread Matthew Bramble
found that they've gotten much better at containing spam; they still host reply mailboxes, but are sending out very little to us, so I've increased my counterweight for mail coming from their mail servers. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: Matthew Bramble [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

[Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 violating mailers

2003-09-24 Thread Matthew Bramble
I just found an(other) example of legit E-mail using base64 encoding for text segments. I would like to create an anti-filter for this (along with OWA for Exchange violations), however I'm having trouble identifying what piece of software or other identifying characteristic appears in the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 violating mailers

2003-09-24 Thread Matthew Bramble
Scott, I've seen some FP's (or possibly rather just simply legit mail) tagged for BASE64 coming from AOL 8 (maybe others) when there is an attachment and no text in the body of the message. I'm wondering if this is possibly a bug in the BASE64 test, and if so, could/should it be fixed? An

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 violating mailers

2003-09-24 Thread Matthew Bramble
. Can you do that? This example was redundantly encoded though. Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 8:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Another very effective filter test

2003-09-25 Thread Matthew Bramble
Actually, you want to apply the weight in the Global.cfg, 7 in this case, and then all of your positives should be listed as 0 in the filter file and the Mozilla exception should be scored as a -7. The way it is now, it will credit 7 points to any message claiming to be Mozilla generated, and

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Another very effective filter test

2003-09-25 Thread Matthew Bramble
It might also be a good idea to remove my domains from your files :) I thought my mail client would use the version saved at the time attached instead of grabbing them when I sent the E-mail... Matt Matthew Bramble wrote: Actually, you want to apply the weight in the Global.cfg, 7

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Another very effective filter test

2003-09-25 Thread Matthew Bramble
It's a limitation in the filtering capabilities. I certainly don't want to do that, but there is no way around it. You just have to keep that in mind when scanning the headers after seeing this test tripped. The way you had it written, it would be tripped just as often, but it would have

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Another very effective filter test

2003-09-25 Thread Matthew Bramble
John, I assume that if someone is going to spoof part of my domain, they won't add fake stuff to the front of it. If they started, I would change my methods to yours possibly, but I would then need to provide exceptions for where my domains are validly used on other servers, such as my MS

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Another very effective filter test

2003-09-25 Thread Matthew Bramble
Bill, The first example is what I did. BTW, I have found from monitoring that most (all so far) spammers just simply use what appears after the @ symbol instead of having something lookup the MX every time. Matt Bill Landry wrote: Matt, what the spammers do is use the names

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Another very effective filter test

2003-09-25 Thread Matthew Bramble
John, I think you might be confusing what HELO really is, and what the HELO filter searches. The HELO filter only searches the hostname that is sending and not the IP address that it is sending from unless it is configured to use the IP as the hostname (which is rare and will trigger other

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Another very effective filter test

2003-09-25 Thread Matthew Bramble
You should exclude your backup MX servers. This follows along the lines of using IS instead of CONTAINS or ENDSWITH. It's better IMO to have the test not score known exclusions along with spoofers of those known exclusions rather than just applying a score to anything. I'm scoring at 70% of my

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Another very effective filter test

2003-09-25 Thread Matthew Bramble
I think I referenced that :) Bill Landry wrote: Not necessarily. The [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] format is a valid and legit hostname syntax. Bill - Original Message - From: Matthew Bramble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: Re

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] MPCM?

2003-09-25 Thread Matthew Bramble
Just an idea. In addition to negative scoring in NOLEGITCONTENT and IPNOTINMX not failing (and crediting points in many configurations), could it be possible that you have some negative weight tests in your WORDFILTER file? Declude will only mark one instance of a filter line in the logs even

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] MPCM?

2003-09-25 Thread Matthew Bramble
Scott MacLean wrote: *sigh* you're right again, Scott. Still doesn't explain why it's not catching my previous wordfilter lines. I'm going to watch this one some more. Keep checking your math for the other message :) NOLEGITCONTENT nolegitcontent x x 0 -5 Subtract that from 9 and it falls

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Another very effective filter test

2003-09-25 Thread Matthew Bramble
John, Just to clarify, the division is related to circumstance and experiences rather than what is best globally. There is no global answer that is the best answer in every circumstance. I use IS because it is more conservative and I have already seen about 4 such violators in the last year

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Percent symbols in the beginning of a URL

2003-09-25 Thread Matthew Bramble
Mike, That issue with PayPal is a scripting error on their part, and it is an invalid link in HTML. I have only seen one semi-legit outfit using obfuscation in URL's, but this was a contest opt-in site that would then turn around and sell your address (that was their business) so I don't

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Foreign Characters and Declude

2003-09-27 Thread Matthew Bramble
And something else that formerly confused me and you pointed out...Roger should make sure that the subject line wasn't base64 encoded by checking out the source of the E-mail since the subject (and the rest of the headers) isn't decoded for filtering.. Matt R. Scott Perry wrote: R You

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Auto White Listing

2003-09-27 Thread Matthew Bramble
Jonathan wrote: If this is the case, then the second part of Scott's explanation doesn't make sense. Why didn't he just say, Yes, once it's in someone's address book, then it's whitelisted for everyone on all the domains on that server. Also, this seems like a pretty good way to circumvent

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Why did this fail - JunkMail

2003-09-30 Thread Matthew Bramble
My God, did the programmers of that software actually opt to base64 encode US-ASCII in the subject line??? Sorry, I just has to point that out in case anyone missed it :) Matt R. Scott Perry wrote: Here are the headers from a message that was blocked. I had to whitelist the address so that

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Percent symbols in the beginning of a URL

2003-09-30 Thread Matthew Bramble
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Percent symbols in the beginning of a URL Mike, That issue with PayPal is a scripting error on their part

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible test

2003-10-01 Thread Matthew Bramble
I don't see why you (or rather anyone) would want to add any weight for such a thing. While spam constitutes about 95% of my late-night traffic, my FP's are already spread through the hours fairly evenly since most of those are from automated mailers of some sort, and adding points to

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] attachment question

2003-10-01 Thread Matthew Bramble
This is likely a configuration on in Outlook or Outlook Express. With the latest versions, they block the ability to open certain types of attachments, but the attachments are actually delivered with the messages. On the client computer's mail program, go into Tools Options Security and

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Backup MX / Spam

2003-10-02 Thread Matthew Bramble
You could write a filter that searches the headers for your backup server's IP address. HEADERS 3 CONTAINS x.x.x.x Matt Robert Grosshandler wrote: We do that already and it works fine. However, I know that there is a much higher probability that any mail that passes through the backup

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Backup MX / Spam

2003-10-02 Thread Matthew Bramble
I was just suggesting a method of doing what he wanted to try :) I'm not generally a big proponent of indiscriminately adding points to E-mail, and this one falls in the gray area. If your backup in located at the same site, I would imagine that very few E-mails will get tagged improperly

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Backup MX / Spam

2003-10-02 Thread Matthew Bramble
Rob, I have recently discovered that the pro version's filter capabilities are a very important tool for tagging spam that otherwise passes through. I would recommend the upgrade highly, though not specifically for this purpose. I've been able to add points to low scoring spam with a very

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist

2003-10-02 Thread Matthew Bramble
Separate lines for any filter is what works. Be careful about whitelisting addresses of local users or popular domains because spammers do forge these addresses. You are probably safe whitelisting problematic addresses from non-local, non-popular domains, just not from places like aol.com.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Performance

2003-10-02 Thread Matthew Bramble
I recommended searching the headers for your backup server because I believe that the REVDNS test is moved to a different hop when you get a hit on IPBYPASS, otherwise that would be the way to go. The ANYWHERE search only works with whitelisting from the Global.cfg file. In filter files you

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Happy days are here again...

2003-10-03 Thread Matthew Bramble
702.319.4349 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 2:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Happy days are here again... Todd Holt wrote

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Happy days are here again...

2003-10-03 Thread Matthew Bramble
Todd Holt wrote: So, ICANN comes up with a figure that is equal to the cost of maintaining the internet for a year and each registrar pays a percentage of that figure based on the percentage of all registrations that they manage? Exactly. If

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] GIBBERISH test adjustment

2003-10-08 Thread Matthew Bramble
I'll add these to the list that I maintain as well for both the ANTIGIBBERISHSUB and ANTIGIBBERISH filters. You shouldn't need to add these to the base filters though since the two letter string will trip it without any assistance. I took note of your parts suggestion as well, but haven't yet

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] GIBBERISH test adjustment

2003-10-08 Thread Matthew Bramble
John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote: I'll add these to the list that I maintain as well for both the ANTIGIBBERISHSUB and ANTIGIBBERISH filters. You shouldn't need to add these to the base filters though since the two letter string will trip it without any assistance. I did not

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] GIBBERISH test adjustment

2003-10-08 Thread Matthew Bramble
. If anyone has any more counterbalances to suggest, now would be a wonderful time so that I can get them into the file. Thanks, Matt Frederick Samarelli wrote: Matt can I take a look at an updated version of you files. Fred - Original Message - From: "Matthew Bramble" [EMAIL

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] GIBBERISH test adjustment

2003-10-08 Thread Matthew Bramble
and expertise. Thanks from all of us!!! JR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 1:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] GIBBERISH test adjustment

[Declude.JunkMail] Setting up Declude for gateway scanning and delivery

2003-10-15 Thread Matthew Bramble
I know this has been discussed before, and I think that I have it correct, however I just wanted to verify the setup required for this to work properly with Declude. I have an external domain soon to be configured with two MX records: mx1.external-domain.com mx2.external-domain.com I

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - overflowing overflow

2003-10-15 Thread Matthew Bramble
Dan, Check your DNS settings. Your outgoing E-mail probably can't be resolved for external mail server addresses. Matt Dan Cummings wrote: Hi, Have about 800 users on a decently powered Imail box running Declude 1.75. The system has been running great for months, but today I received

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail

2003-10-16 Thread Matthew Bramble
I do pretty much the same thing, though I use Killer Web Mail for this purpose. I think you are talking about the list of messages, in which case you might have to re-code your Web Mail templates to get that to work. You can though do things like add the weight to the subject and probably

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail

2003-10-16 Thread Matthew Bramble
. - Original Message - From: "Matthew Bramble" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail I do pretty much the same thing, though I use Killer Web Mail for this purpose. I think you are tal

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail

2003-10-16 Thread Matthew Bramble
: Thanks. Looked at the code. Beyond me - Original Message - From: Matthew Bramble To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail Fred, you can't by default. If you

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail

2003-10-16 Thread Matthew Bramble
know where they keep the Column Title"From" I would liketo change it to "TO". If you every figure out how to add a column to have both To and From that would be best. I really appreciate this. Thanks. Fred - Original Message - From:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool and overflow building

2003-10-16 Thread Matthew Bramble
Is it me, or is this the third or fourth such message in a day or so? That's quite strange. It's making me think that maybe a recent Microsoft, Ipswitch or Declude patch/upgrade might be the root of the problem (likely the first of course). Another list member said that rebooting his server

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