Re: [dev-biblio] Re: [users-biblio] JabRef - OpenOffice integration

On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, Leonard Mada wrote: > > I strongly suggest moving this page to a new location, something like: > > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Bibliographic_Project/Plugins/Zote >ro instead of creating such orphaned pages. Leonard, Thanks for the the suggestion. When I st

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: [users-biblio] JabRef - OpenOffice integration

On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > > So I'd like to see if we can work with developers from Zotero, JabRef, > etc. to enhance that baseline support. If out that some other > developer start to build the integrated tool we originally envisioned, > that's great. But I don't think we can depe

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: [users-biblio] JabRef - OpenOffice integration

I largely different with Bruce, and encourage the development of Bibliographic applications that can effectively interact with OpenOffice. I differ from Bruce in not yet being fully convinced that we should abandon the idea of building a native integrated bibliographic facility in to OpenOffice.

Re: [dev-biblio] Some Considerations for Bibliographic Management

On Sat, 16 Jun 2007, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > On Jun 15, 2007, at 7:40 PM, David Wilson wrote: > > As I understand them, the current proposals for the OOo Bib Project > > would > > allow for the selection of and retention of disparate fonts and font > > sizes

Re: [dev-biblio] Some Considerations for Bibliographic Management

On Fri, 15 Jun 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > TWiMC, > > Perhaps some of the issues of the following Zotero thread may also be > pertinent to the OOo Bib. project (specifically: permitting for the > selection of and retention of disparate fonts and font sizes within > citations as well as citatio

Re: [dev-biblio] feedback needed on citation formatting

Gannon, The bibliographic project team decide against basing the new bibliographic application on an SQL database some time ago. I do not want to repeat the issues here, after all, they are all in the archives of this list. The new bibliographic application will be XML based rather t

Re: [dev-biblio] feedback needed on citation formatting

On Wednesday 21 March 2007 2:27 pm, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > On Mar 20, 2007, at 10:19 PM, David Wilson wrote: > >> I am leaning towards not supporting traditional flags of this sort, > >> with the idea that they're more trouble than they're worth, for both >

Re: [dev-biblio] feedback needed on citation formatting

On Wednesday 21 March 2007 11:23 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > > I am leaning towards not supporting traditional flags of this sort, > with the idea that they're more trouble than they're worth, for both > author and programmer. I am not sure what you mean precisely. Do you mean 'by not supporting t

Re: [dev-biblio] feedback needed on citation formatting

On Wednesday 21 March 2007 7:39 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > I'm wondering about a simpler approach still. I am thinking of > properties like just citation, shortCitation and bibliographicEntry. In > that scheme, if we have a citation like (Doe, 1999, 2000; see also > Smith, 1993): > > - ref 1

[dev-biblio] Re: zotero and OOo

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > My colleague David Wilson has posted the requirements > he sees (though I've had time to look at them in depth), and I've > noted that ZOOM may well provide a ready made API complete with > freely available code. I have poste

Re: [dev-biblio] Fwd: [sw-discussion] Re: [dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] Re: zotero and OOo

On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > On Feb 11, 2007, at 4:11 PM, David Wilson wrote: > > I will work on it today. > > OK, just to be clear, we're laying out the requirements fro a > cross-application API. It would be used to assess whether ZOOM is good >

Re: [dev-biblio] Fwd: [sw-discussion] Re: [dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] Re: zotero and OOo

On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > On Feb 10, 2007, at 9:20 PM, David Wilson wrote: > > I put together my ideas about possible Citeproc - Writer Interaction > > at > > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Citeproc_Writer_Interaction > > I think we migh

Re: [dev-biblio] Fwd: [sw-discussion] Re: [dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] Re: zotero and OOo

On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > We need to decide on this ASAP. I'm not sure if everything in this > thread has also gone to this list ... snip > > As I wrote I would like to get a better understanding of the > > requirements for an exchange between WP and bib application. This could >

Re: [dev-biblio] smarttags in OOo

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, CPHennessy wrote: > I'm not sure if it makes sense but would the smarttags feature which was > recently added be useful to develope the citation component ? > > http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/successful_community_project_smart_tags CPH, It is good news that Smart

Re: [dev-biblio] important question

set of provisionally formatting rules which define the format (position & punctuation) of field not normally used. David On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > On Jan 27, 2007, at 4:19 PM, David Wilson wrote: > > Am I right in thinking that Microsoft's citation

Re: [dev-biblio] important question

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > So translating: > > locale -- not sure why we need this? I am not sure either. Locale information is generally needed only if the text is NOT encoded in unicode. In the case where you have a 8bit character codes and need the locale to determine

Re: [dev-biblio] important question

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > Well, here's the citation field switches in Microsoft's Open XML > format Bruce, Am I right in thinking that Microsoft's citation systems does not support footnote citations. And that do not have footnote citation flags defined in case they m

Re: [dev-biblio] important question

On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Florian Schlichting wrote: > > and where do you control whether and what kind of brackets are used? > From the menu Insert->Indexes and Tables->Index/Table tab:Type=Bibliography In the panel section 'Formatting of the entries' - Brackets selection. David -- --

Re: [dev-biblio] important question

y from the GUI panel. Footnote citation options are - *Force Short/long title, *Suppress Publisher regards David On Thursday 25 January 2007 9:14 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > On Jan 24, 2007, at 4:37 PM, David Wilson wrote: > > Ibidem has several other insert citation opti

Re: [dev-biblio] important question

On Thursday 25 January 2007 1:42 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > Hi, > > I'm making some minor changes to the ODF citation field that I hope > will be added soon. One change I want to make is to add control to the > local styling attribute. This is the flag that will say, for example, > suppress author,

Re: [dev-biblio] Bibliography for OOo

Brennick, On Saturday 13 January 2007 2:17 am, caspasas wrote: > Andreas, Andreas is not directly involved with the bibliographic project. I am one of the project leaders. > This is just a contact letter to see where the Bibliography project > stands, Thanks for your interest. The general st

[dev-biblio] A Biliographic Database export filter.

and would welcome any suggestions on how to make it better. For details see http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRISExport.py regards David Wilson -- --- David N. Wilson Co-Project Lead for the Bibliographic OpenOffice.org Project http://bibliographic.openoffic

[dev-biblio] Fwd: OpenOffice.org Survey

FYI If you are interested you could support Tobias' research. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: OpenOffice.org Survey Date: Saturday 04 November 2006 6:51 am From: "Tobias Brenner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [dev-biblio] default db should be empty

Perhaps a compromise would be to have only one entry in the database, to show that it works and is easier (if you do not know the select delete record process) to remove. Most mail apps came with a welcome mail message. David On Thursday 26 October 2006 4:55 am, Matthias Basler wrote: > Bruce

Re: [dev-biblio] For your reading pleasure ...

On Tuesday 24 October 2006 4:43 am, you wrote: > The more I think about it, my half-hearted suggestion for a feature > prohibiting saving a document with (recommended core) meta data blanks > might not be so harsh. It is partly there already - the option "Edit document properties before saving"

[dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] default db should be empty

On Tuesday 24 October 2006 3:44 am, you wrote: > > But if it is really disturbing, we have some protocols for changing a > feature in OOo .. this usually start by reporting an issue. (So that the > change is trackable) > http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=70760 "Remove the sample co

Re: [dev-biblio] default db should be empty

On Tuesday 24 October 2006 3:10 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > From Dan Chudnov (library hacker): > > > > > Does anybody know why OpenOffice ships with a "bibliography database" > > that's *already* filled out with a bunch of records? Do th

Re: [dev-biblio] For your reading pleasure ...

On Monday 23 October 2006 7:38 am, Gannon Dick wrote: > > You do start to lose me just a little bit when you talk about a generic > API for meta data. For reasons outlined here ... > > http://www.geocities.com/gannon_dick/TheBigPicture.pdf (case sensitive) > > I believe that a meta data API needs

[dev-biblio] Add-on package to add metadata via user defined fields

List members. Laurent Godard, the Project Lead for the OOo Extensions project mentioned that you can use user-fields to allow you to define document metadata. The OOo document properties panel, File->Properties->Tab='User Defined' only has four user defined fields and some people have found thi

Re: [dev-biblio] generic structured fields, citations

Jakob I have been reading the Extensions project documentation http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions . I get the impression that what you are trying to should be possible. It might be that you need to add two OObasic macros - one that initialise/opens your file at document open

Re: [dev-biblio] taking the biscuit

On Thursday 19 October 2006 3:48 am, Jon Rubin wrote: > Hi Bruce, > Apologies to the list members, I realise that in life three things are > inevitable: death, taxes and lost data but sometimes the latter can > happen at a very bad time, and inevitably when you've just done a lot of > work. > As fo

[dev-biblio] OOo 2.0.4 has a built in BibTeX export filter.

The just released OOo 2.0.4 has a built in BibTeX export filter. File->Export->File Format='Bibtex (.bib)'. I have written some instructions on how to set up a RIS and BibTeX import filter on the wiki hints and tips page. You can easily add COPAC, endnote, ISI web of science, Pubmed im

[dev-biblio] How to use Zoterero with OOo

Dear Bibliographic list members, You may be aware that the Firefox bibliographic add-on Zotero is now available to the public and that it uses Bruce D'Arcus's CiteProc engine to produce the bibliographic table. I believe the Zotero team will be building an interface to MS Word and to OOo Write

[dev-biblio] [users-biblio] Amended Project Plans

On Wednesday 04 October 2006 8:53 am, you wrote: > On 03/10/06, David Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Whilst we need to wait for some developments with ODF, the Extension > > Toolkit and some Writer enhancements (formatted text in fields). There is > > still plenty

[dev-biblio] Amended Project Plans

Bibliographic Project List members Following the IRC meeting with Sun Developers and information about OOo development plans given at the recent OOo conference. I have amended the bibliographic project plans at - http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Bibliographic_Project's_Developer_Page

Re: [dev-biblio] Hierarchical Keyword Tree

Leonard Mada. Your have raised some very interesting questions. I think the idea of setting a scheme for sharing subject specific key word lists is well worth considering - and rather simple to implement. David On Wednesday 27 September 2006 7:51 am, Leonard Mada wrote: > Hi, > > I m

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] Smart Tags in Openoffice Writer

On Saturday 02 September 2006 1:14 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > On 9/1/06, Jakob Lechner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We consider the primary use case of smart tags to be to link > > words (that are recognized by an external library) in a document with > > actions provided by this library. The user

Re: [dev-biblio] GUI

I have produced my suggested list of the minimal Bibliographic features. Document/Page Options Panel --- * Select document citation / bibliography style selects from available CiteProc style sheets. [picklist] (Ideally th

Re: [dev-biblio] GUI

On Sunday 23 July 2006 11:58 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > OK, am just looking again through the details of the existing GUI, > seeing if we can get by with minimal changes that might have a big > impact on functionality. So, random thoughts: > > 1) I think maybe we need our own "citation" entry in t

Re: [dev-biblio] bringing our description closer inline with existing OOo bib API

On Sunday 23 July 2006 1:28 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > It's occurred to me in looking at all this again that we need see where > we can simply use and/or enhance the existing bib APIs in OOo: to see > if we can disentangle what are GUI problems, from something fundamental > in the design. > > It se

Re: [dev-biblio] more on word support

On Sunday 16 July 2006 9:47 pm, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > > And I think with some caveats, they will have met these goals. I am > particularly intrigued by their no-local-database approach, where the > editing forms are only editing XML data embedded in the file package. > > This is something we need

Re: [dev-biblio] more on word support

I read through the exchange and I think you put your position very well and the response was rather defensively or evasive. David On Saturday 15 July 2006 10:52 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > So based on back-and-forth with the product manager responsible for > the new bib support in Word 2007*: >

[dev-biblio] more on Keywords

One of the nice things about wiki's is that you set up a page and the pixies come in night and make it better. (Not at all like the Deteriorating Angel that comes in the night to make you a tiny bit older). I set up a wiki page about keywords with discoleo's suggestions about keywords - > disc

Re: [dev-biblio] Footnotes and with intext citations.

On Tuesday 11 July 2006 12:12 pm, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > On Jul 10, 2006, at 9:32 PM, David Wilson wrote: > > I have looked up my style manual - 'The Chicago Manual of Style; 15th > > edition" > > Ugh (sound of sinking in the stomach). > > OK, fair e

[dev-biblio] How to test for first or subsequent occrance of a citation ?

In correctly displaying citations we need a function that indicates whether a citation is the first or a subsequent citation of a reference. This is because a first or a subsequent citation often has a different display format. The xml format of a citation looks something like this -        

Re: [dev-biblio] Footnotes and with intext citations.

the style. Not just a printer of software issue. David On Tuesday 11 July 2006 9:56 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > On Jul 10, 2006, at 7:33 PM, David Wilson wrote: > > All other citations are footnote citation. This practise is is followed > > because otherwise the text would have

[dev-biblio] Footnotes and with intext citations.

I have been thinking about the options needed for the Insert/ Edit Citation panel. Yet another history complexity. This one is from my thesis. Whilst the thesis citation style is Chicago footnotes, the thesis is principally an examination of two texts and I followed the convention of listin

Re: [dev-biblio] localization?

On Thursday 06 July 2006 11:47 pm, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > I wonder if the easy way to do this is to remove all strings from CSL > files, define a list of variables, and allow them to be implemented > natively in software? That way the files are mostly simplified, and > remain self-contained. Doing

Re: [dev-biblio] localization?

My guess is that for the final production version that would eventually ship with OpenOffice, would need need either separate language versions of the CSL files or internationalization via the use strings in a separate files. In styles like Chicago there are a few language specific strings lik

[dev-biblio] Bounty Scheme Proposal

Bibliographic Project list members, I have trying to work the best way to set up a fund raising system. I have done some research and none of the public pledge systems seems suitable. Escrow systems such as www.escrow.com are not suitable for collecting small amounts of money from many

[dev-biblio] The Vote for Bibliographic Enhancements

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Re: [dev-biblio] Fwd: Re: [dev] Will OOo version 3 preserve backwards file compatibility with OOo 2 ?

> Subject: Re: [dev] Will OOo version 3 preserve backwards file > compatibility with OOo 2 ? > Date: Wednesday 28 June 2006 7:05 pm > From: Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: dev@openoffice.org snip > backward compatibility is often regarded a holy cow. The ones saying

[dev-biblio] Fwd: Re: [dev] Will OOo version 3 preserve backwards file compatibility with OOo 2 ?

FYI -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [dev] Will OOo version 3 preserve backwards file compatibility with OOo 2 ? Date: Wednesday 28 June 2006 7:05 pm From: Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: dev@openoffice.org David, David Wilson wrote

[dev-biblio] Re: [dev] Will OOo version 3 preserve backwards file compatibility with OOo 2 ?

On Tuesday 27 June 2006 6:22 pm, Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg wrote: > Hi David, > > David Wilson wrote: > > Can anyone advise us as whether OOo version 3 will preserve backwards > > file compatibility with OOo 2 ? > snip > > Does that mean, that you

[dev-biblio] Will OOo version 3 preserve backwards file compatibility with OOo 2 ?

Can anyone advise us as whether OOo version 3 will preserve backwards file compatibility with OOo 2 ? Has this matter been decided yet, or does the major release number mean that compatibility does not need to be conserved ? In designing the bibliographic enhancements the Bibliographic Project

[dev-biblio] Enhance the Text-Field or Bookmark functions to include formatted text

I would like to enter an issue to enhance database and text fields to support formatted text. The Bibliographic project wants this enhancement because some data fields in the bibliography need to support formatted text. For example some scientific document titles need to be able to display wor

[dev-biblio] Important: Please Vote for Bibliographic Enhancements.

Bibliographic Project List members, One of the ways the OpenOffice developers access the importance of fixed and enhancements to OpenOffice is through project members voting on the issue voting system. I raised this issue some time ago but it is worth raising again. I have just checked the cur

Re: [dev-biblio] citation GUI?

On Tuesday 20 June 2006 9:21 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > On further thought, I wonder if we shouldn't make things a little > easier and just do: > > > > > > ... or even: > > cite:pages="23-24"/> > > The latter would require a standard list of attributes there, though, > wh

Re: [dev-biblio] citation GUI?

Bruce, I think the user will need to select the location type so, where in the word-edit-citation.jpg pic the fixed 'Pages' word is placed a pick list would be placed to allow the user to select the locator type. Along with paragraph, and even line, numbers. There is time-in (hours,m

[dev-biblio] Fwd: [ooo-announce] Registration for attending to OOoCon2006

FYI, You can now register the 2006 OpenOffice Conference. The program has not yet been announced. That is, I have not heard yet if I have been selected to give a presentation. David -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [ooo-announce] Registration for attending to OOoCon

Re: [dev-biblio] Bibliographic Issues should be added to the marketing strategy

pledges. It would be good if they did. But I do not imagine they would. We may have find another approach. > > -Matt > > --- David Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is still a remaining positive point, or some > > light at the end of a long > > tunnel, a

[dev-biblio] Fwd: Site Infrastructure Upgrade: Tuesday 20 June

-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [project leads] Site Infrastructure Upgrade: Tuesday 20 June Date: Saturday 17 June 2006 12:54 am From: Louis Suarez-Potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: dev@openoffice.org, dev@native-lang.openoffice.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Apologies: I meant, of co

Re: [dev-biblio] funding (was Bibliographic Issues should be added to the marketing strategy)

On Saturday 17 June 2006 7:44 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > I like the pledge idea too, though perhaps before doing that we ought > to come up with the most important tasks, and some rough target > amount? Yes it is work a try I will do some research, see how how other project do it. Also I will draw

Re: [dev-biblio] Bibliographic Issues should be added to the marketing strategy

There is still a remaining positive point, or some light at the end of a long tunnel, and that is that Sun developers have agreed that bibliographic 'improvements' should be in OOo version 3. No date is yet set for version 3 but I would guess that it is more than a 12 months away. As far as I ca

[dev-biblio] Bibliographic Issues should be added to the marketing strategy

equirement. If we do not have it we are not in it. regards David Wilson -- --- David N. Wilson Co-Project Lead for the Bibliographic OpenOffice Project http://bibliographic.openoffice.org - To uns

[dev-biblio] Keywords

discoleo has submitted an interesting enhancement request. I created a wiki page http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Bib-Keywords to discuss such issues. === discoleo wrote --- One way to better sort articles is based on Keywords. However, there is another way I will shortly

[dev-biblio] more word 2007 citation & bibliography screen shots

Some more word2007 bib screen shots- http://users.bigpond.com/dnwilson/bib/source.png http://users.bigpond.com/dnwilson/bib/sources.png http://users.bigpond.com/dnwilson/bib/bibliography.png David -- --- David N. Wilson Co-Project Lead for the Bibliographic OpenOffice Project h

Re: [dev-biblio] citation/bib support in Word 2007

Some google searches have produced - A screen shot showing the word 2007 style selection. http://news.com.com/2300-1012_3-6075201-12.html Also a comment by a beta user -  "Also worth mentioning is Word's new Reference feature that stores the sources you use for a paper and creates the citation

Re: [dev-biblio] intro. and contributions

Ryan, Thanks for your interest and offer of assistance. Unfortunately we have no finished software to test yet, and what we have is not yet sufficiently developed to document. If you would like to exercise your skills in writing you could look over the project web pages for areas tha

[dev-biblio] short-to-medium-term

On Friday 26 May 2006 10:15 am, CPHennessy wrote: > Break the tasks into short manageable specific tasks. There tasks should > be focused not on the bibliographic end game but on the intermediate steps > to allow others to get involved also. e.g. > - read/write the most important parts of the new

Re: [dev-biblio] Fwd: Summer of Code : 6 Projects Above the Line

On of the issues about OOo marketing I have not fully understood is that OpenOffice development plans are to some extent controlled by StarOffice needs. And they seem to be focusing on business. Maybe there is a separate StarOffice marketing arm that needs to be lobbied ? David On Thursday 25

[dev-biblio] Fwd: Summer of Code : 6 Projects Above the Line

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Re: [dev-biblio] Summer of Code

Matt, Thanks for asking, I have been rather busy with the the SOC. There were four applicants and we are sorting them out. I think we may get some of the tasks or at least one tasks done.I can't really say much more until the final decisions are made. regards On Wednesday 17 May 200

[dev-biblio] Fwd: Re: [users-biblio] Another "tool" for doing bibliographies (using MS Word & BibTeX)

This may be of interest for some on the dev list who may not be on the user list. -- -- Subject: Re: [users-biblio] Another "tool" for doing bibliographies (using MS Word & BibTeX) Date: Monday 08 May 2006 10:13 am From: David Wilson <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [dev-biblio] Summer of Code

our coding work. Please feel free to ask us any questions. regards David Wilson On Wednesday 03 May 2006 6:23 am, Aby wrote: > Respected Sir, > My name is Abraham M. Chacko > I'm from India > I am studying in second year for M.SC(Software Systems) in Tamil Nadu, > India I am c

Re: [dev-biblio] Draft Summer of Code 2006 Tasks

Florian, Thanks for the offer of assistance. I will start drafting up a task description on a draft wiki page - http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/SOC_Draft_tasks Please feel free to add or modify my efforts. David On Wednesday 26 April 2006 11:13 pm, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > On

[dev-biblio] Draft Summer of Code 2006 Tasks

I have written two Draft Summer of Code tasks on a Draft page (not yet on the official task list). See them at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/SOC_Draft_tasks Comments and suggestions are welcome David On Friday 21 April 2006 8:35 am, David Wilson wrote: > It is time to work

Re: [dev-biblio] Citeproc's Interaction with Writer

On Saturday 22 April 2006 9:17 am, you wrote: > On 4/21/06, David Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does this sound feasible ? > > I'm really exhauasted, so may just be a bit braindead, but what > problem would we be solving with tihs approach? E.g. why is it so &

Re: [dev-biblio] update on modelling

Bruce, Do you envisage the the various types tables - locators, contributors to be user extendable ? I notice you have converted role (Author, Editor etc) from a table of role types , in earlier models, to a field in Contributions in this model. I think it there should be a table.

[dev-biblio] Citeproc's Interaction with Writer

I initially envisaged Citeproc interacting with Writer each time a user added a citation. That is - A user adds a new reference, Writer requests Citeproc to return the Initial Citation String for that reference. The user adds a second citation tothe document and Write requests Citeproc to retur

[dev-biblio] Fwd: Summer of Code 2006

It is time to work out if we can come up with some useful some Google Summer of Code tasks. We do not have much time - prospective coders can apply 1 - May 8 . David -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [project leads] Summer of Code 2006 Date: Thursday 20 April 2006 8:45 p

Re: [dev-biblio] update on modelling

Bruce, For someone who is just installed Rails, could give a brief description of how or where we plug in this schema to try it out in Rails ? David On Wednesday 19 April 2006 11:03 pm, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > Apropropos in part of today's DOI post, I've been slowly working a bit > more

[dev-biblio] Fwd: [ooo-announce] CP Hennessy: Winner, March Round Article Contest

Congratulations to CP Hennessy for his award winning article on the citation facilities of OpenOffice.org. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [ooo-announce] CP Hennessy: Winner, March Round Article Contest Date: Thursday 20 April 2006 2:48 am From: Louis Suarez-Potts <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [dev-biblio] Fwd: [project leads] A proposal for the planning process for OpenOffice.org 3.0

Bruce, I seem to stirred something up. At least there seems to a process being created that we may have input in. Also I wrote to Martin Hollmichel asking >I would like to add Bibliographic Enhancements to >  http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Features for OOo 3.0 > > But

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: develop parallel application to test toolchain and api?

My view about the platform and language for prototyping is the 'beggars can't be choosers'. If a programmer offers to do the work I would be happy for the programmer to use what he or she is most comfortable with (with limits of course). David On Saturday 08 April 2006 7:24 am, Matthias Ste

Re: [dev-biblio] embedded references/functional requirements wiki page

On Wednesday 05 April 2006 2:32 pm, David Wilson wrote: > On Wednesday 05 April 2006 6:40 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > > Actually, I'd like to start by suggesting we scrap the current > > requirements document and start over with the basics. > > You are probably righ

Re: [dev-biblio] develop parallel application to test toolchain and api?

On Thursday 06 April 2006 8:59 am, James Howison wrote: > I may be crazy, but has anyone considered building a 'proof-of- > concept' _application_ that works similarly to the way intended for > OOo? Yes, developing it outside OOo, but using the future file > format as much as possible (obviously n

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: Re: embedded references/functional requirements wiki page

On Thursday 06 April 2006 4:24 am, Matthias Steffens wrote: > On Wed, 5-Apr-2006 10:27 -0400, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > > Yes, that's a very nice feature. However, when I'm writing a paper, 95% > of the cited references do already exist in my bibliographic database > and I want to use these (and not

Re: [dev-biblio] Base forms (was Minimal Target)

On Wednesday 05 April 2006 8:49 pm, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:26 AM, David Wilson wrote: > > You can use Xforms in OOo but it is harder to use than Base forms > > which are of > > the point and click type, to link database fields to form fields

Re: [dev-biblio] embedded references/functional requirements wiki page

On Wednesday 05 April 2006 6:40 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Matt Price wrote: > > comment: seems to me that it might be a good idea to start some of the > > actual deletion/consolidation suggested by Bruce or others. WHile > > fairly exhaustive, the document is currentl

Re: [dev-biblio] Minimal Target

On Wednesday 05 April 2006 1:02 pm, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > > >> Also CiteProc is working right now using data stored in an eXist xml > >> database. > >> The quickest way to build something that works would be to build a > >> xforms > >> based browser to work with eXist and a function to inset the

[dev-biblio] functional requirements wiki page

I spent some time considering whether I should put the OOoBib Functional Requirements document up on the wiki or not. I decided to do so because it is hard to get any to start from scratch on a new document. I knew it have lots of problems, but Manish Agrawal had put a lot of work into and rai

Re: [dev-biblio] Minimal Target

Matt, In the the developer Page ( http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Bibliographic_Project's_Developer_Page ) Stage 1, was intended as the 'minimal' requirement. And Stage 2 as the "intermediate" . I can see it would be better to state this as a clear objective. Your suggestio

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: [users-biblio] Work documents on the wiki.

On Apr 3, 2006, at 9:55 PM, Matt Price wrote: > > - unlike in refbase or refdb, there seems to be no way to associate a > > set of references with a user  (though notes are associated with > > users).  Is this a design decision? Bruce - > No, it's not done yet. It seems, however, in our case we ca

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: [users-biblio] Work documents on the wiki.

On Friday 31 March 2006 9:41 am, Matt Price wrote: Snip > Alternatively, would it make most sense to design the bibliographic > database next -- since there are so few C coders here, but many people > with some database experience? Accepting Matt's good idea I have created a Bibliographic Da

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: [users-biblio] Work documents on the wiki.

On Friday 31 March 2006 9:41 am, Matt Price wrote: > Hi David, > > Alternatively, would it make most sense to design the bibliographic > database next -- Yes that is a task that could be started now. I notice I have not included the database design / build task on the Developers page. http://w

[dev-biblio] Work documents on the wiki.

Moving some of our documents to the wiki have proved to be very successful. (The full list is at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:Dnw ) The 'Bibliographic Software and Standards Information' page is the 4th most popular page on the site (almost 6,000 hits), and many people have ad

Re: [dev-biblio] Bibliographic Table processing

On Monday 27 March 2006 12:15 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: Snip > > Anyway, here's the relevant page: > > BibliographyDataField.html> > > OK, good news: > > There is, in fact, a reference class. It's very limited, just being a > seri

Re: [dev-biblio] Bibliographic Table processing

On Monday 27 March 2006 12:15 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: snip . > Bad news: > > I might be wrong, but it seems that the current design assumes one > > would always have a bibliography. The description, for example, says: > > These values define parts of bibliographic data. They are used to > > c

Re: [dev-biblio] Bibliographic Table processing

On Monday 27 March 2006 12:15 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > On Mar 25, 2006, at 11:11 PM, David Wilson wrote: > > Some time ago, some one, it might have been CPHennessy, asked about > > bibliographic table (reference table) generation and if the current > > process &

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