Thanks for the update, bibendum. I've been following the comments on
their website and noticed the same things you've observed. The
manufacturing issues you've mentioned make sense...once you switch to
overseas factories it is really tough to stay on top of build quality,
particularly if you
I thought I'd confirm that Olive are slowly starting to send out units
to Indiegogo backers and that I received mine in Australia last week.
Olive are being tight lipped about how many units have been shipped but
they are asking those who have got a unit to post their experiences on
Zendesk.
At
Still monitoring
Communication has been awful. They haven't updated their Facebook page
(where they encourage folks to go for news) since March. If you check
out the Olive One user forum, you'll see a lot of folks asking for
updates on delivery. Many of these folks contributed to the
Looks like this thing may get off the ground yet:
https://olivemediainc.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201101764--Update-Mar-4-2014-Manufacturing-of-the-ONE-is-revving-up
2-SB3s, 1-Duet, 1-Touch...and an iPeng convert.
mikesiegel1 wrote:
I have FIRST AND experience with Olive products and Olive as a company.
DO you know they refuse to have a working phone number to the public. I
spent
over $1,000 on the 03HD media server and they would only help me via
slow email. That's not the bad part...their service
I saw on their Facebook page that they are shipping preorders in the
months of February and March.
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Usually, when a company is missing deadlines AND unresponsive, that's a
sign of trouble. Even if they ship a few units, my instincts are to
wait for awhile before jumping on board
assuming the product even meets
my needs.
Many thanks to the last few posters for confirming what I already
gruntwolla wrote:
Hi all,
I've been doing a bit of research on the Olive One, and maybe
I'm being naive, but this product looks like it could be everything the
Squeezebox should have evovved into. Has anyone else here had a good
look at their website, and if so what are the potential
Sad to say, but I expected this outcome as soon as I had some back and
forth emails from the olive folks regarding questions i had just after
this project was announced. It seemed pretty clear to me then that they
were out of their depth.
*Location 1:* VortexBox 4TB (2.2) LMS 7.8
I wonder if this product is ever going to come to market. It's now been
over six months since it's scheduled release date, and
nada.
2-SB3s, 1-Duet, 1-Touch...and an iPeng convert.
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ninthsrw wrote:
They have deleted the miracast / wifi direct functionality - and heavily
censoring their indiegogo forum as a result - deleting most comments -
even the very polite and thoughtful ones - protesting it or changes to
their pricing structure (announced with the miracast / wifi
I don't feel bad for Olive . I emailed them several times a month ago or
so with some technical questions on the Olive One and did not get a
single reply .
I think it's good policy to avoid these types of companies . There is no
phone number either to call . Good luck finding
a working Olive
They have deleted the miracast / wifi direct functionality - and heavily
censoring their indiegogo forum as a result - deleting most comments -
even the very polite and thoughtful ones - protesting it or changes to
their pricing structure (announced with the miracast / wifi defeat).
Kind of
Jokke wrote:
If there is no analog output to a regular hifi, it is a no-go for me.
What is the benefit of a built in amp, for an audiophile network player
? The 32w amp can never drive my bamp;w speakers.
Yeah I don't get the built in amp part .
Might be the same thing happens that happened to Pebble (a smartwatch)
they wanted 100 thousand dollars and ended up with more than 10
million.
Meaning they had to also find a way to massproduce.
I funded them in april 2012, shipment was expected in september and I am
still waiting for my
amey01 wrote:
So it can be done? Does it play bitperfect high-res FLAC? How does the
music get to the AE? Via the iPad, or direct from the server with
transcoding?
Read my response. That gives routing.
Airplay is the limiting factor - 44.14 16bit only.
If you don't like that then it's USB
Squeezemenicely wrote:
Might be the same thing happens that happened to Pebble (a smartwatch)
they wanted 100 thousand dollars and ended up with more than 10
million.
Meaning they had to also find a way to massproduce.
I funded them in april 2012, shipment was expected in september and I
DaveWr wrote:
Squeezebox Server - iPeng on iPad (with player mode) - Airport Express
( via Airplay )
No iTunes.
So it can be done? Does it play bitperfect high-res FLAC? How does the
music get to the AE? Via the iPad, or direct from the server with
transcoding?
gruntwolla wrote:
Looks like you're in a very similar position to me. I decided to take a
leap of faith and order 2. One with a 1TB hard drive which will act as
the server, another without. If they are as good as I hope, then I will
sell my Squeezeboxes whilst there is still a healthy demand
I have been following the olive story and it does look promising and it
looks like the crowd funding is paying off as they well moved passed
their initial target and could end up with over 1M once it is
completed.
Given my squeezeboxes are still all functioning well, I am in no hurry
to replace
amey01 wrote:
Thanks for your reply, but no - this is not how I understood the
original thread of comments.
You're talking about turning your phone/tablet into a Squeezebox - yes,
I understand that.
But the original post was
and then
Now, by these, I am reading that you
froth wrote:
I have been following the olive story and it does look promising and it
looks like the crowd funding is paying off as they well moved passed
their initial target and could end up with over 1M once it is
completed.
Given my squeezeboxes are still all functioning well, I am in
amey01 wrote:
Please explain?
Oh, and what if your library is in FLAC?
iPeng plus an optional in app purchase for local playback basically
turns your device into a squeezebox using your existing server. You can
do the same on Android using any available control app and an additional
app
Plank wrote:
Can't you accomplish roughly the same thing as an Olive with an iPad
mini and an Airport express? I've been happy using iTunes match and
about 10 internet radio apps.
Does sync work? My understanding is that is one of the main issues with
this kind of setup. I have several
jimbobvfr400 wrote:
iPeng plus an optional in app purchase for local playback basically
turns your device into a squeezebox using your existing server. You can
do the same on Android using any available control app and an additional
app called squeezeplay.
In my garage I have an old set
gruntwolla wrote:
Yeah I remember the post - something along the lines of 1 watt is 1
watt! I find your opinion much more worrying than a few extra dollars
for a connector box. They ( Olive ) have frequently alluded to the fact
that the Olive One paired with a pair of BW CM9's sounds
Can't you accomplish roughly the same thing as an Olive with an iPad
mini and an Airport express? I've been happy using iTunes match and
about 10 internet radio apps.
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code46 wrote:
I remember the post regarding the Olive One paired with BW and let out
a smirk. I was going to reply but gave it the old *sigh* and let it go.
The audiophile market has always been driven by marketing in general.
This type of claim will go over well with those who don't seem to
gruntwolla wrote:
Not if you hate itunes!!
No iTunes required, iPeng's fine.
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Maybe the answer here is a really simple hardware transcoder (not a
DAC) thunderbolt or USB in, coaxial or optical digital out use iPeng
(or some other app) on a tablet to control all playback.
Why don't high-end (as in feature rich) A/V receivers already have this
functionality baked in?
DaveWr wrote:
No iTunes required, iPeng's fine.
Please explain?
Oh, and what if your library is in FLAC?
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ninthsrw wrote:
1) What exactly did the majority vote for?: The vote was limited to only
selecting what connectivity methods might be desirable, not selecting
how those connectivity methods would be implemented (other than with
respect to overall delay and overall increased cost with respect
garym wrote:
But they reiterated the ability to do 3rd party plugins.
Any ideas on what language(s) they are supporting with their SDK? I
can't imagine its Perl unless they are planning on borrowing lots of LMS
code ;)
I'm presuming this will basically be some *nix box, will it support a
EliteAV wrote:
If I recall correctly, the early discussions about a connector box / hub
may have been referring to what Olive are now calling a PAC which is the
box that provides a power connector speaker connections (with a single
cable running back from the PAC to the ONE containing the
Hmm , I think i did post something acerbic re their claim to drive bw
speakers with a cheap switch mode amp , but that is gone ? Was it a
glitch on my iPad or did they told this forums admins to remove that ?
However at modest volume in a smal room anything works on a hard to
drive speaker too ,
Mnyb wrote:
Hmm , I think i did post something acerbic re their claim to drive bw
speakers with a cheap switch mode amp , but that is gone ? r .
Sorry for the confusion, all references to comments in my immediately
preceding post are referring to the comments made in the Comments
section of
Mnyb wrote:
Hmm , I think i did post something acerbic re their claim to drive bw
speakers with a cheap switch mode amp , but that is gone ? Was it a
glitch on my iPad or did they told this forums admins to remove that ?
However at modest volume in a smal room anything works on a hard to
gruntwolla wrote:
Yeah I remember the post - something along the lines of 1 watt is 1
watt! I find your opinion much more worrying than a few extra dollars
for a connector box. They ( Olive ) have frequently alluded to the fact
that the Olive One paired with a pair of BW CM9's sounds
gruntwolla wrote:
... does seem to be the best way forward to offer what the majority have
voted for.
...was obviously originally not envisaged as a competitor to the
Squeezebox line, but fair play to them for at least coming up with an
idea that will satisfy many people's needs, albeit at
ninthsrw wrote:
1) ... I am eager to replace because I've begun to play with 24/192,
don't presently own any Touches, and have recently moved into a larger
home - so need more endpoint distribution, and would like a system
wherein at least some components can facilitate 24/192.
Thanks for
EliteAV wrote:
...analogue out in tandem with the already announced coaxial SPDIF out).
I was optimistic, but these guys are starting to sleaze me out. Their
plan to provide the analog out appears to involves a separate connector
box, for which they will be charging extra, and which will
ninthsrw wrote:
I was optimistic, but these guys are starting to sleaze me out. Their
plan to provide the analog out appears to involves a separate connector
box, for which they will be charging extra, and which will require some
sort of proprietary umbilical connection to the portion
ninthsrw wrote:
I was optimistic, but these guys are starting to sleaze me out. Their
plan to provide the analog out appears to involves a separate connector
box, for which they will be charging extra, and which will require some
sort of proprietary umbilical connection to the portion
gruntwolla wrote:
they sure do seem to be listening
That's because they have been deleting all the posts (their own and
backers) that are contrary to their current position - including posts
wherein they said the connector box would not cost current backers
anything extra, and posts
ninthsrw wrote:
Nothing wrong with chasing a profit, but I'm eager to replace my
substantial SB ecosystem and was really hoping for more from these guys.
Curious, why the strong urge to replace your Squeezeboxes?
ninthsrw wrote:
That's because they have been deleting comments (their own and backers)
on their indigogo page that are contrary to their current position -
including posts wherein they said the connector box would not cost
current backers anything extra, and posts pointing out that a
bossanova808 wrote:
You can have your library on one One (internal hd) and the others all
pick it up across the wireles - indeed, it will also back up one One to
another One if they both have HDs
I don't recall. Can one use ethernet to connect all these players if one
chooses?
garym wrote:
I don't recall. Can one use ethernet to connect all these players if one
chooses?
The prototype / initial design only supports wireless; I think Olive
were trying to keep the number of cables to an absolute minimum (i.e.
just a power cable /speaker cables) as well as providing
garym wrote:
Agree. Seems like an obvious thing. But perhaps just a symptom of the
dummying down of the market to only want something to link to their
smartphone. None of the young people I know even own a preamp/amp or
receiver. In my 20s, my stereo system cost more than my car (although
paqi wrote:
So I strongly believe that if you want to win you would need something
like Airplay but with multiroom features on a platform that is available
on almost any product as a remote thing. otherwise it will die.
Depends on what you mean with multiroom. I think people want to be
EliteAV wrote:
It looks like the Olive One will be providing similar functionality by
storing play statistics as per this:
Our patent-pending SESSION#8482; technology learns from your listening
habits. Simply activate SESSION#8482; and ONE automatically tracks your
music preferences
You can have your library on one One (internal hd) and the others all
pick it up across the wireles - indeed, it will also back up one One to
another One if they both have HDs
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erland wrote:
If you want smart playlists you also need to add handling of statistic
data such as play counts, last played time and ratings to the list,
smart playlists without this is more or less useless IMHO. Often you
want to filter or limit the smart playlist to things like:
- Only
erland wrote:
If you want smart playlists you also need to add handling of statistic
data such as play counts, last played time and ratings to the list,
smart playlists without this is more or less useless IMHO. Often you
want to filter or limit the smart playlist to things like:
- Only
erland wrote:
If you want smart playlists you also need to add handling of statistic
data such as play counts, last played time and ratings to the list,
smart playlists without this is more or less useless IMHO. Often you
want to filter or limit the smart playlist to things like:
- Only
erland wrote:
What do you mean with library management ?
In my view, LMS has very little library management while apps like
iTunes and WMP have a lot more. Library management for me means that I
can restructure my library and add/remove/change artist/albums/track
data from a user
garym wrote:
I agree with your points. I mostly just mean that there is a functioning
database that can use tags, etc. and is not simply a
directory/subdirectory of files used by a DLNA/UpnP approach.
DLNA/UPnP doesn't necessary mean that it displays a
directory/subdirectory structure, just
erland wrote:
DLNA/UPnP doesn't necessary mean that it displays a
directory/subdirectory structure, just look at the DLNA/UPnP server
exposed from LMS which exposes similar structure as in the normal LMS
browse menus, but I get what you mean, you basically want tag based
browsing with good
olive_media wrote:
The ONE's going to be packing an internal Burr-Brown DACnot Sonos-like
at all :-).
I assume olive_media represents olive in some way. That's good...I'm
happy to see you here. As you'll find, there are lots of people here
that are serious about use of network music
garym wrote:
I assume olive_media represents olive in some way. That's good...I'm
happy to see you here. As you'll find, there are lots of people here
that are serious about use of network music streamers in good (or
great!) audio systems. I have often said I would pay 10 times what I
paid
Ikabob wrote:
I totally agree with all the criteria. Well said. I would just add (and
maybe you includede these)
A line in and line out feature.
It's really too bad that LOGITECH has dropped the line of products that
satisfies all these features. But I also do not think that LOGITECH
Ikabob wrote:
It's really too bad that LOGITECH has dropped the line of products that
satisfies all these features. But I also do not think that LOGITECH is
the kind of prestigious respected company that would leave its loyal
consumers high and dry. I just don't think they would want that
garym wrote:
I assume olive_media represents olive in some way. That's good...I'm
happy to see you here. As you'll find, there are lots of people here
that are serious about use of network music streamers in good (or
great!) audio systems. I have often said I would pay 10 times what I
paid
erland wrote:
Logitech is likely going to continue supporting Squeezeboxes and keep
mysqueezebox.com running for the foreseeable future, except for this I
think you can stop hoping for Logitech unless you are a user who love
the limited simplified functionality in UE Smart Radio.
For
garym wrote:
I assume olive_media represents olive in some way. That's good...I'm
happy to see you here. As you'll find, there are lots of people here
that are serious about use of network music streamers in good (or
great!) audio systems. I have often said I would pay 10 times what I
paid
Another important item I left out:
ability to use ReplayGain tags. Squeezeboxes can use none, track gain,
album gain, or SMART gain (I use the latter). Smart gain is nice because
if playing an entire album it automatically uses ALBUM gain, but if
playing a mixture of tracks from different
garym wrote:
I assume olive_media represents olive in some way. That's good...I'm
happy to see you here. As you'll find, there are lots of people here
that are serious about use of network music streamers in good (or
great!) audio systems. I have often said I would pay 10 times what I
paid
I had a followup email from Olive after I answered some of their
questions and raised issues about their earlier answers. They seem very
open to dialog and seem to understand many of the things that they need
to add to future versions of the product. No idea how the ONE and future
products will
garym wrote:
Library management: they simply talked about a tablet/ipad approach. Not
sure exactly what that means.
What do you mean with library management ?
In my view, LMS has very little library management while apps like
iTunes and WMP have a lot more. Library management for me means
garym wrote:
11. Playlist functions (preferably some sort of smart playlist ability)
If you want smart playlists you also need to add handling of statistic
data such as play counts, last played time and ratings to the list,
smart playlists without this is more or less useless IMHO. Often
Jokke wrote:
If there is no analog output to a regular hifi, it is a no-go for me.
What is the benefit of a built in amp, for an audiophile network player
? The 32w amp can never drive my bw speakers.
Hey there,
The ONE has a Class D amplifier with 2x32W into 8Ohm. As a general
note:
dyohn wrote:
IMO it needs digital outputs and analog line level outs. Until it does,
it's just a Sonos knock-off, not a high-end music player solution.
http://www.myoliveone.com/Ones/tech_specs
The ONE's going to be packing an internal Burr-Brown DACnot Sonos-like
at all :-).
olive_media wrote:
Hey there,
The ONE has a Class D amplifier with 2x32W into 8Ohm. As a general
note: Class D amp output wattage cannot be compared to regular analog
amps, as they are much more powerful and power efficient. We are
driving some BW Cm9 and 804Ds here in our office and
Yes, the Sonos Connect (Zoneplayer90) has digital outputs. But wouldn't
I also need one of their Bridge devices since they seem to use a
proprietary version of the 801.11.g/n networking protocol? A Zoneplayer
will not just connect to an existing wireless network, will it? The
Vortexbox
Afaiu, you don't necessarily need the Sonos Bridge device to establish
their proprietary mesh network. Connecting _any_ of their devices to
your router via ethernet will establish the mesh wifi network. You only
need the Bridge if your router location isn't convenient for a wired
connection to a
dyohn wrote:
Yes, the Sonos Connect (Zoneplayer90) has digital outputs. But wouldn't
I also need one of their Bridge devices since they seem to use a
proprietary version of the 801.11.g/n networking protocol? A Zoneplayer
will not just connect to an existing wireless network, will it? The
Thanks for the feedback. Yea, my music server is in a completely
different area of the house than the SB3 that just died. Wireless to
that room is the only option unless I want to engage in major wall
de-construction to run cabling - which I do not. :) It's too bad
AppleTV will not connect to
dyohn wrote:
Thanks for the feedback. Yea, my music server is in a completely
different area of the house than the SB3 that just died.
You may have misunderstood. The Sonos player needs to be wired to the
router, not to your server/music source. Of course, it's also a good
idea to have your
Just to get back to the original question, I've been keeping an eye on
the various requests/reccommendations etc that are being sent to the
Olive One team regarding which features the Olive One should
incorporate, and whilst it may well be too soon for this ( at present )
happy Squeezebox user to
IMO it needs digital outputs and analog line level outs. Until it does,
it's just a Sonos knock-off, not a high-end music player solution.
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dyohn wrote:
IMO it needs digital outputs and analog line level outs. Until it does,
it's just a Sonos knock-off, not a high-end music player solution.
Agree. And even Sonos has digital outs and line level analog outs on
some units.
If there is no analog output to a regular hifi, it is a no-go for me.
What is the benefit of a built in amp, for an audiophile network player
? The 32w amp can never drive my bw speakers.
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Jokke wrote:
If there is no analog output to a regular hifi, it is a no-go for me.
What is the benefit of a built in amp, for an audiophile network player
? The 32w amp can never drive my bw speakers.
+1 you can also bet that the 32w switch-mode power is some creative
specmanship probably
gruntwolla wrote:
+1
ps Are you going to preorder one, or are you just going to watch like me
and pay more next July!!
I'll wait and see how it develops. If the software isn't any good, it
doesn't matter how sexy the hardware is.
I'm still confused about the specs. The discussion here is
Scratch that last post. A more thorough reading of the entire site
reveals enough details that I understand the concerns raised here. You
would think they would recognize the market for a unit that can be
integrated into an existing stereo system, but apparently not.
GeeJay wrote:
Scratch that last post. A more thorough reading of the entire site
reveals enough details that I understand the concerns raised here. You
would think they would recognize the market for a unit that can be
integrated into an existing stereo system, but apparently not.
Agree.
GeeJay wrote:
Well, I for one will be watching Olive One closely over the next year. I
like the approach: open source, community input, multi-room capability,
decent price point. Let's face it, the odds that another product comes
along that does everything Squeeze does, and more, is highly
gruntwolla wrote:
I emailed Olive last night . here's their reply Regarding
multi-room synchronized playback: we probably won#8217;t use UPnP for
this, but more about this later #8230;.
Much of the information about their (proposed) player is very vague and
why I think many SB users
gruntwolla wrote:
I emailed Olive last night re gapless play back etc, and here's their
reply ...
Hello tgoward2011,
yes we will support gapless playback. Regarding multi-room synchronized
playback: we probably wont use UPnP for this, but more about this later
.
You might also
garym wrote:
You might also suggest to them that the player support ReplayGain tags
(album or track) and even better use something like SmartGain in the LMS
(that is, if one is playing an entire album, it uses ALBUM RG tag and if
one is playing songs from different albums (random or
gruntwolla wrote:
I think I'm getting the point. Many of us later converts to Squeezebox
just don't realise how much work has been done over the years to the
software, and tend to take it for granted ( see examples in the quote
above). Oh well, at least everything still works at present. I
gruntwolla wrote:
I just worry that if any Squeezebox replacement is born from these
forums, it is likely to be a geek driven exercise, which will make it
even more of a niche product. No criticism of geeks implied or intended,
by the way.
I think it depends on the driving force behind it:
garym wrote:
I'm just thinking out loud, but it probably needs to be a niche product
for me. I'd pay triple the price for a squeezebox-like quality product
that had the software to back it up (i.e., not some sort of hacked
DLNA/upnp).
Those that just want simple will end up with
Well, I for one will be watching Olive One closely over the next year. I
like the approach: open source, community input, multi-room capability,
decent price point. Let's face it, the odds that another product comes
along that does everything Squeeze does, and more, is highly unlikely.
I'll be
This was discussed a couple weeks ago in here, it's a more a Sonos
design than SB.
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97539-Is-Olive-One-the-answerhighlight=olive
Digital outs are a maybe, we'll consider it down the road. Hopefully
they'll add a player with no amp with digital outs.
gruntwolla wrote:
Hi all,
I've been doing a bit of research on the Olive One, and maybe I'm being
naive, but this product looks like it could be everything the Squeezebox
should have evovved into. Has anyone else here had a good look at their
website, and if so what are the potential
erland wrote:
I haven't looked into Olive One in detail, but generally I think it's
important to not just look at the hardware but also look at the
software.
The Squeezebox hardware might be great but if it weren't combined with
LMS and mysqueezebox.com it would just be another music
I emailed Olive last night re gapless play back etc, and here's their
reply ...
Hello tgoward2011,
yes we will support gapless playback. Regarding multi-room synchronized
playback: we probably wont use UPnP for this, but more about this later
.
erland wrote:
I haven't looked into Olive One in detail, but generally I think it's
important to not just look at the hardware but also look at the
software.
The Squeezebox hardware might be great but if it weren't combined with
LMS and mysqueezebox.com it would just be another music
Hi all,
I've been doing a bit of research on the Olive One, and maybe
I'm being naive, but this product looks like it could be everything the
Squeezebox should have evovved into. Has anyone else here had a good
look at their website, and if so what are the potential negatives, if
any?
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