Occasionally Commander shows missing artwork for albums that list it
correctly in the Logitech controller app.
Last night I selected the Clear Cache option in Commander and this
seemed to fix it.
I also noted the Auto Prefetch Artwork option in Commander's Cover Art
Settings menu. What does
And shellac actualy comes from a bug :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shellac
I did not know that.
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swayzak wrote:
Occasionally Commander shows missing artwork for albums that list it
correctly in the Logitech controller app.
Last night I selected the Clear Cache option in Commander and this
seemed to fix it.
This is needed after a full library rescan because SBS can change the
names of
dustinsterk wrote:
...
So my question to everyone is simple..if there was a community
funded project, would you invest your time? Would you invest
monetarily? We all have different strengths and as a community I think
we could really design one hell of a product.
Maybe I am
Mick Seymour wrote:
This is needed after a full library rescan because SBS can change the
names of existing artwork files in its cache during the scan. Commander
needs to resync to the new names.
It should not make any difference. Always select Clear Cache after a
full library rescan.
WPA2 works fine on an SB3/Classic. Sure there are no spaces entered,
particularly at end of passphrase?
Couple of temporary things to try...
- Try disabling encryption all together, see if it connects
- Change passphrase to something really short and simple to enter
- Change SSID name, see
castalla wrote:
PLONK
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castalla wrote:
...
Could we add PiPi to the above list???
...
It took me a while, but finally I understand what you mean.
Unfortunately I wasn't aware of the meaning of FLA*, as English isn't my
native tongue. No nastiness intended.
swayzak wrote:
But if I run a New Changed music scan, this should pick up new art
work shouldn't it ? And Clear Cache would be unnecessary ?
It should do. I've found sometimes it doesn't and sometimes a Clear
Cache doesn't work either. In the latter case I usually do a Clear
Library and
Triode wrote:
I'm not sure whether we can turn this into a community product, but my
personal view is that an effective Squeezebox replacement for the
community can be made from a small existing arm based device + an
external usb dac. This means all the audio engineering can be part of
the
vortecjr wrote:
Are there any SACDs that you like? Locked up in those SACDs is DSD data
waiting to be ripped. Yes you need custom hardware to rip them, but many
have and this is part of the reason for the format taking off.
There are also various player, such as HQ Player from Signalyst,
toby10 wrote:
WPA2 works fine on an SB3/Classic. Sure there are no spaces entered,
particularly at end of passphrase?
M, that could be it. I'll check it out.
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Thank you for your posts. I would never consider spending $250 on a
remote for my Touch. I just noticed some Android phones on E Bay going
for around
Input output will be slow in a DNA based server. Very slow.
J
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Gadgety1 wrote:
Seems the content has drifted slightly off topic on this thread, but as
it has I'll respond. A lot of DSD-players are outputting PCM
datastreams from DSD data, but only internally in the player. The DSD
fad, 10 years after it's initial failure due to poor management by Sony,
My 2¢: I couldn't care less about DSD support. Or even 192 kHz, for that
matter.
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JJZolx wrote:
My 2¢: I couldn't care less about DSD support. Or even 192 kHz, for that
matter.
I don't have a problem with that and I respect your needs, but your
missing the point. You are covered at whatever rate floats your boat if
you build in the bandwidth...
Jesus R
JJZolx wrote:
My 2¢: I couldn't care less about DSD support. Or even 192 kHz, for that
matter.
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No it should not. New and changed scans only pick up embedded artwork.
The scan only looks for changes in MUSIC files and if you add e.g.
Folder images they will not be recognized (no change to the music), you
need to do a Clear amp; Rescan then.
Well, you were right: it was trailing spaces. Thanks guys!
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jmschnur wrote:
Input output will be slow in a DNA based server. Very slow.
J
Maybe we can forget about amps/speakers/cables and feed the output
directly to our brain. ;-p
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My 2¢: I couldn't care less about DSD support. Or even 192 kHz, for that
matter.
+1 Other may want it but thats why we have server side transcoding , it
works perfectly fine for 192kHz and other oddball formats . the product
will only get more complicated without actually add
I was thinking to myself do we really need yet another format ? No we
listenr already have more formats than we ever need, the ones needing
the format are the ones selling these extra special DAC's . But they are
expensive and sell small numbers .
But it could be bit of fun o kill thier market
Juff, I'm very open minded about new features. If you have some ideas
about what should be added you should explore them. You may be into MP3s
at the extreme end of things and I would not come down on you for it. In
fact, I would support you and support that it be properly implemented to
fit you
vortecjr wrote:
If there is just 1 title on DSD worth listening to...I want to be
able to here it.
Jesus R
Are there a lot of titles unavailable in any other high quality formats
? Then this would be a valid concern if you can get it in what ever
popular PCM formats then it's not really
Mnyb wrote:
+1 Other may want it but thats why we have server side transcoding , it
works perfectly fine for 192kHz and other oddball formats . the product
will only get more complicated without actually add anything off value
to cater for a fringe interest .
I would not count anything
Mnyb wrote:
I was thinking to myself do we really need yet another format ? No we
listenr already have more formats than we ever need, the ones needing
the format are the ones selling these extra special DAC's . But they are
expensive and sell small numbers .
But it could be bit of fun o
vortecjr wrote:
...if it is needed to move products (even if it does 0 for actual sound
quality ). is that really the quote the want floating around:) Did you
read John's spec for the board? He is not building a 6 layer board with
multiple ground plans so that it appeals to the MP3 crowd.
Mnyb wrote:
Are there a lot of titles unavailable in any other high quality formats
? Then this would be a valid concern if you can get it in what ever
popular PCM formats then it's not really a point and DSD files are
redundant . ripping can be done to some pcm format .
So is there are
Hi
Can anyone help me here please?
thanks
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We need more info. Is your library connected directly to the Touch or is
attached to a PC etc. ? What steps are you taking to try to do a scan ?
Have you tagged the files so they can be recognized by LMS ?
dasmueller's
JJZolx wrote:
My 2¢: I couldn't care less about DSD support. Or even 192 kHz, for that
matter.
+1
You never can check if a DSD recording were PCM at one point because of
its limitations.
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Pulp - biproduct after squeezing juice
Would Jarvis Cocker approve?
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DSD
I'm not against DSD2PCM conversion (I have a product that does this)
because it solves a problem for people.
I know it's not for everyone, but it's still an important aspect of
computer audio...
Jesus R
The I know who to pm if I kinda stumble upon such a
JohnSwenson wrote:
Lots of stuff to talk about here, some very good points raised, first
power supply:
Cases: Norm you are right, I was just going to screw the Gen1 board onto
a pice of plywood for my own use. I can certainly design it to fit a
case if we can find own that works well. I
vortecjr wrote:
I'm very open minded about new features.
You might be. I think we, as a collective, shouldn't. We don't want to
throw in every possible kitchen sink if it makes the product expensive
and complicated without providing tangible benefits for a significant
group of users.
I would
vortecjr wrote:
This conversation is relevant. You are just making generalizations
without thinking things thru or researching them. Your kind of thinking
is what limited the Touch and Transport to 96k and the Sonos to 44.1k.
Your building a product here and you should IMO be pushing the
vortecjr wrote:
At least I'm doing something about it
Jesus, I'm with you, but I think the more subtle approach, (rather than
risk alienating people on this thread), is to lobby that the hardware
must be able to properly support (without issues) a USB UAC2 output at
384k and leave it
vortecjr wrote:
Yes you need all the formats and all the formats to come.
So you want us to support bluetooth and 4-bit ADAC too?
Look you don't actually have to do anything to support DSD on the player
so don't worry it. BTW you can already play Native DSD through it, but I
guess you are
norman12 wrote:
John,
I'm struggling to fit all the connectors required on a 3 wide PCB.
Even if we use stacked connectors for USB/Eth, Audio L/R we still need
room for DC, Toslink and SPdif - all looking a bit on the tight side, we
certainly can't fit anything else.
Is there such a thing
norman12 wrote:
John,
I'm struggling to fit all the connectors required on a 3 wide PCB.
Perhaps using Power Over Ethernet ?
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Thanks both
I shall use Clear Cache more often in future.
What I want is to minimize the number of Clear Rescans as my library
is 400GB, so these take at 1 to 2 hours.
I suppose alternatively I could embed all my album art , but this would
be a Herculean task unless automated. Don't think
epoch1970 wrote:
Perhaps using Power Over Ethernet?
But won't the electromagnetic field from the supply current affect the
IP packets in a way that is detrimental to sound quality? :)
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Gadgety1 wrote:
Thank you for replying, and for incorporating your DSD DataBase link.
Interesting.
I put this together so I could get my hands around things...
Gadgety1 wrote:
My comments below I make just to show you there are many ways to view
the market, and many ways to achieve
swayzak wrote:
Thanks both
I shall use Clear Cache more often in future.
What I want is to minimize the number of Clear Rescans as my library
is 400GB, so these take at 1 to 2 hours.
I suppose alternatively I could embed all my album art , but this would
be a Herculean task unless
vortecjr wrote:
the DSD2PCM conversion is not lossless
Definitely not lossless, but will the loss be audible? We all remember
the 'AES paper'
(http://old.hfm-detmold.de/eti/projekte/diplomarbeiten/dsdvspcm/aes_paper_6086.pdf)
that concluded that ...No significant differences could be heard
I have a Squeezebox Duet (for 5 years). Just bought a Raspberry Pi and
put all my music on the attached USB Ext Drive to the Pi. Configured RPi
with samba to acces my music files.
My question is, can i use my squeezebox duet to connect directy to the
RPi music share instead of running the
swayzak wrote:
What I want is to minimize the number of Clear Rescans as my library
is 400GB, so these take at 1 to 2 hours.
I suppose alternatively I could embed all my album art , but this would
be a Herculean task unless automated. Don't think Foobar2000 can batch
process this sort of
Juff, DSD should not add any cost and it's a bit more than a kitchen
sink...it's the whole kitchen. I didn't mean to suggest that you were
into MP3 or low res...I was just using it as an example at the opposite
end of things.
Now you said, As Mnyb wrote, the ones needing the format are the ones
JackOfAll wrote:
Jesus, I'm with you, but I think the more subtle approach, (rather than
risk alienating people on this thread), is to lobby that the hardware
must be able to properly support (without issues) a USB UAC2 output at
384k and leave it at that. If it supports 384k PCM, it
I've been using Squeezepad for over a year now - utterly brilliant. But
perhaps I'm missing a setting somewhere. From my experience so far,
tracks in an album are played and displayed in alphabetical order, and
not the track order they may have been recorded in. Very important for
'concept
No. You need the server running somewhere.
Quoting daddyfix (daddyfix.5q7...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com):
I have a Squeezebox Duet (for 5 years). Just bought a Raspberry Pi and
put all my music on the attached USB Ext Drive to the Pi. Configured RPi
with samba to acces my music files.
liffy99 wrote:
I've been using Squeezepad for over a year now - utterly brilliant. But
perhaps I'm missing a setting somewhere. From my experience so far,
tracks in an album are played and displayed in alphabetical order, and
not the track order they may have been recorded in. Very important
Julf wrote:
Definitely not lossless, but will the loss be audible? We all remember
the 'AES paper'
(http://old.hfm-detmold.de/eti/projekte/diplomarbeiten/dsdvspcm/aes_paper_6086.pdf)
that concluded that ...No significant differences could be heard
between DSD and high-resolution PCM even
Ah, yes - using the Music Folder is just about the only option I ever
use. Looks like I may have to start and get a new habit !
Just that I'm most familiar with the way my library is structured
(artist/ album / track). Might mean a lot more tag checking now to make
sure everything appears
liffy99 wrote:
I've been using Squeezepad for over a year now - utterly brilliant. But
perhaps I'm missing a setting somewhere. From my experience so far,
tracks in an album are played and displayed in alphabetical order, and
not the track order they may have been recorded in. Very important
liffy99 wrote:
Ah, yes - using the Music Folder is just about the only option I ever
use. Looks like I may have to start and get a new habit !
Just that I'm most familiar with the way my library is structured
(artist/ album / track). Might mean a lot more tag checking now to make
sure
vortecjr wrote:
Juff, DSD should not add any cost and it's a bit more than a kitchen
sink...it's the whole kitchen. I didn't mean to suggest that you were
into MP3 or low res...I was just using it as an example at the opposite
end of things.
Now you said, As Mnyb wrote, the ones needing
You must have Logitech Media Server (LMS, formerly slimserver,
SqueezeCenter, or Squeezebox Server) running somewhere for your Duet
Receiver to play the music. You could run LMS on the Raspberry Pi
itself. Search these forums and you'll find the relevant threads.
Jesus,
I don't mind misspelling my name now and then, just don't make a habit
of it... :)
vortecjr wrote:
Juff, DSD should not add any cost and it's a bit more than a kitchen
sink...it's the whole kitchen.
A whole kitchen sounds expensive! :)
Julf wrote:
But won't the electromagnetic field from the supply current affect the
IP packets in a way that is detrimental to sound quality? :)
Oh no, on the contrary. POE energizes the sound. Try it if you don't
believe me.
(I was thinking of using a passive poe injector, something like
Mnyb wrote:
You could contribute by actually describing how encapsulate a DXD or DSD
stream in flac or WAV we have a wiki it could just be short a link to an
already existing article on the subject , Julf may already know the
details as he have some sort of pro audio affiliation
It's pretty
norman12 wrote:
I'm struggling to fit all the connectors required on a 3 wide PCB.
...
A quick sketch - please ignore the dual USB, I could find a single
Eth/USB model.
I asked before why this thing needs to be 3 wide. I don't see many
advantages to making this a micro-sized component.
We
epoch1970 wrote:
Oh no, on the contrary. POE energizes the sound. Try it if you don't
believe me.
I clearly need to! I am sure it removes some digital granularity and
enhances the terroir :)
(I was thinking of using a passive poe injector, something like this:
JJZolx wrote:
I asked before why it needs to be 3 wide. I don't see many advantages
to making this a micro-sized component.
We _were_ talking about having two USB ports, weren't we?
Don't forget, you also need a rear connector for an external antenna,
although it may not be on the board
aubuti wrote:
You must have Logitech Media Server (LMS, formerly slimserver,
SqueezeCenter, or Squeezebox Server) running somewhere for your Duet
Receiver to play the music. You could run LMS on the Raspberry Pi
itself. Search these forums and you'll find the relevant threads.
Ok. Got it.
Julf wrote:
Jesus,
I don't mind misspelling my name now and then, just don't make a habit
of it... :)
LOL...It was only a force of habit and not purpose.
Julf wrote:
A whole kitchen sounds expensive! :)
naaa
I picked up a 64gb Playbook very cheaply on the promise they will get
the upgrade to BB10 this year.
Anyhow, in the meantime it's doing duty as a Squeezebox controller and I
installed Music2Touch.
Main problem I have is that with approx. 6500 albums, the albums display
takes way, way too long
I'd be up for £100 into a crowd-sourced project.
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enhances the terroir
LOL
I worry that the cheap injection solution could cause people to fry
their network equipment when they get something connected to the wrong
plug
Well, we can key the energized ethernet and DC in plugs with a bright
color (the POE adapter shown above
Having tried most other options, I still love this app on my Kindle Fire
(1G). The only thing I wish is that I could make the informational
fonts (i.e. Artist, Album, Title) a bit larger on the Now Playing
screen. Has anyone figured out a way to adjust this? Thanks.
liffy99 wrote:
Ah, yes - using the Music Folder is just about the only option I ever
use. Looks like I may have to start and get a new habit !
I don't think there would be a reasonably simple way to make a
Squeezebox play a music folder in track order if that's not how the
files are named.
pippin wrote:
I don't think there would be a reasonably simple way to make a
Squeezebox play a music folder in track order if that's not how the
files are named.
Teach Squeezeboxes to read our mind? ;-)
actually, I did just watch a Nova Science Now show that had some
scientists that had
Cool :)
But then... In what order would your brain (no cheating like using
Google or the CD case!) play these files, for example :D And hey, this
should be an easy case, shouldn't it? (OK, there's an additional level
of complexity in there in this case):
Code:
pippin wrote:
Cool :)
But then... In what order would your brain (no cheating like using
Google or the CD case!) play these files, for example :D And hey, this
should be an easy case, shouldn't it? (OK, there's an additional level
of complexity in there in this case):
Code:
Shall I say enjoy the game?
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AN OPEN MESSAGE - WITHOUT PREJUDICE
I used to be a Logitech customer - I had the Squeezebox Touch for 24
months. I sold it as soon as I could, at a profit, thank you, when I
learnt about your change of product direction to UE.
What I find interesting is that there has been minimal if
JiveBox
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Triode wrote:
HF versions is hardfloat and is used if the distribution is using
hardfloat calling conventions. This is used by Pi and other more modern
linux distros as its faster to pass floating point parameters using this
convention where the floating point registers are used. The soft
JackOfAll wrote:
Hmmm. That doesn't sound good to me. It sounds like the usual problems
with trying to run UAC2 with non-ehci hardware. It's one thing fixing
underruns and playing with thread priorities, another if the USB
controller is generating too many interrupts for the proc to handle,
On sample rates, DSD etc here are my thoughts, the design I'm looking at
will go up to 384 as is, hardware wise. Whether it will actually go that
fast is going to be purely a software issue. As to doing DSD, a DSD over
I2S implementation may not be too hard, but I can guarantee it will not
be in
Would that finally eliminate the jitter issue?
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