Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-15 Thread Stephen Wolff
Just tried it with a couple of collegues in the Netherlands, and it worked a treat. No setup (in latest Chrome - Ubuntu and OSX) Thanks! On 14/12/2014 23:56, Chris Dennis wrote: I know I'm very late to this party, but has anyone tried this Skype alternative? https://appear.in/ It uses

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-15 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 14 Dec 2014 23:56:02 Chris Dennis wrote: I know I'm very late to this party, but has anyone tried this Skype alternative? https://appear.in/ It uses WebRTC, and claims to be secure. It's good to know about all these different tools, although this one appears to be very

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-14 Thread Chris Dennis
I know I'm very late to this party, but has anyone tried this Skype alternative? https://appear.in/ It uses WebRTC, and claims to be secure. Cheers Chris -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-01-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-09 Thread Terry Coles
On Monday 08 Dec 2014 19:20:55 Ralph Corderoy wrote: I've worked it out. Good. The Mozilla crew didn't enable it by default for all users because they didn't want everyone hammering their servers at once (Google for 'How to enable Firefox Hello'). You have to do a bit of

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-08 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 07 Dec 2014 21:42:54 Stephen Wolff wrote: Have you tried Google Hangouts out of interest - had some better experiences (video-wise) than with Skype for work calls fairly recently - with multiple people (ie conference type) using a mixed bag of OSs (ie Ubuntu, OSX, Win7). Might be

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-08 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 07 Dec 2014 16:58:13 Terry Coles wrote: On Sunday 07 Dec 2014 16:45:16 Ralph Corderoy wrote: I have Firefox 34.0 installed here and it doesn't have Hello. 35 improves on 34's Hello. So says http://thenextweb.com/apps/2014/12/04/firefox-35-beta-arrives-updated-hell o-

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-08 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, I've found https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8683830 which suggests you need to enable it in 34! I tried, but it isn't in the list of Add-ons. Maybe it is because Kubuntu's V34.0 is different to the raw one? I've worked it out. Good. The Mozilla crew didn't enable

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-07 Thread Terry Coles
On Saturday 06 Dec 2014 17:00:00 Terry Coles wrote: So what I have is video from the Trust and audio from the Logitech and Skype seems to work fine. I've only tested it over our internal network so far, but there was zero packet loss and crystal clear video and sound. Well the news is not

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-07 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 07 Dec 2014 14:04:32 Peter Merchant wrote: That webcam looks just like the one that I got from the market for 50 pence a few weeks ago, that I opened up and it did not have a microphone in it. did you have to add the string env

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-07 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, Was Firefox 34 any use? Mentioned in an off-list email to you yesterday. It includes this feature from October: http://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2014/10/16/test-the-new-firefox-hello-webrtc-feature-in-firefox-beta/ ... In fact, it will be Firefox 35 that will support the

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-07 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, Well it doesn't and I've now worked out that I probably need an uplink speed of at least 1 Mbps to use Skype with the low-res camera and 4 Mbps to use it with the hi-res one. I have about 480 kbps. Is that based on non-compression of the video stream?

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-07 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 07 Dec 2014 16:08:23 Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Terry, Was Firefox 34 any use? Mentioned in an off-list email to you yesterday. It includes this feature from October: http://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2014/10/16/test-the-new-firefox-h

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-07 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 07 Dec 2014 16:13:50 Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Terry, Well it doesn't and I've now worked out that I probably need an uplink speed of at least 1 Mbps to use Skype with the low-res camera and 4 Mbps to use it with the hi-res one. I have about 480 kbps. Is that based on

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-07 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, http://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2014/10/16/test-the-new-firefox-hello-webrtc-feature-in-firefox-beta/ In fact, it will be Firefox 35 that will support the 'Hello' feature with video conferencing. The link in the page that you cited is to the beta download.

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-07 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, I assume that the extra 850 kbps is the resends. I think $ netstat -s | grep segments retransmited 27 segments retransmited will show you those. You can keep an eye on it over time, untested. l= while :; do sr=`netstat -s | sed -n 's/ segments

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-07 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 07 Dec 2014 16:45:16 Ralph Corderoy wrote: I have Firefox 34.0 installed here and it doesn't have Hello. 35 improves on 34's Hello. So says http://thenextweb.com/apps/2014/12/04/firefox-35-beta-arrives-updated-hello- plugin-free-video-chat-functionality/ and

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-07 Thread Stephen Wolff
Have you tried Google Hangouts out of interest - had some better experiences (video-wise) than with Skype for work calls fairly recently - with multiple people (ie conference type) using a mixed bag of OSs (ie Ubuntu, OSX, Win7). Might be worth a shot given Google are reasonably OS agnostic? On

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-06 Thread Terry Coles
On Friday 05 Dec 2014 21:22:02 Ralph Corderoy wrote: After a bit of Googling, I managed to get the Creative CT6840 working with Cheese, QTox and Venom, but not Skype ;-( Was Firefox 34 any use? Mentioned in an off-list email to you yesterday. It includes this feature from October:

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-06 Thread Terry Coles
On Friday 05 Dec 2014 16:56:31 Terry Coles wrote: After a bit of Googling, I managed to get the Creative CT6840 working with Cheese, QTox and Venom, but not Skype ;-( I'm seriously considering trying to get my hands on a low-res webcam from Maplin or PC World. The trouble is, all the

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-05 Thread Terry Coles
On Thursday 04 Dec 2014 19:33:53 Peter Merchant wrote: One of the webcams that I could not get working on Skype was identified as an ov_519. After a bit of Googling, I managed to get the Creative CT6840 working with Cheese, QTox and Venom, but not Skype ;-( I'm seriously considering trying to

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-05 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, After a bit of Googling, I managed to get the Creative CT6840 working with Cheese, QTox and Venom, but not Skype ;-( Was Firefox 34 any use? Mentioned in an off-list email to you yesterday. It includes this feature from October:

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-04 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 10 Aug 2014 16:01:38 Terry Coles wrote: I just tried to use V 4.3.0 for the first time (Kubuntu 14.04; delivered by update) and it is just about unusable when the video is on. Here are the symptoms: 1. Remote user complains about video freezing and voice garbled. 2. Video and

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-04 Thread Terry Coles
On Thursday 04 Dec 2014 17:52:43 Terry Coles wrote: When I plug it in the system doesn't seem to recognise it as a video camera but I get this from dmesg: [ 1510.740065] usb 5-2: new full-speed USB device number 5 using ohci-pci [ 1510.901122] usb 5-2: New USB device found, idVendor=05a9,

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-04 Thread Peter Merchant
On 04/12/14 19:23, Terry Coles wrote: On Thursday 04 Dec 2014 17:52:43 Terry Coles wrote: When I plug it in the system doesn't seem to recognise it as a video camera but I get this from dmesg: [ 1510.740065] usb 5-2: new full-speed USB device number 5 using ohci-pci [ 1510.901122] usb 5-2: New

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-04 Thread Terry Coles
On Thursday 04 Dec 2014 19:33:53 Peter Merchant wrote: A bit more info snipped from modprobe: Module Size Used by . gspca_ov51948736 0 gspca_main 36735 1 gspca_ov519 uvcvideo 81065 0 videobuf2_vmalloc 13216 1 uvcvideo

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-10 Thread Terry Coles
On Friday 08 Aug 2014 13:57:16 Simon P Smith wrote: You need to download the 4.3 .deb from the skype web site. The 4.2 version does not work with the authentication API anymore. It cut me off in the middle of a call! Glad it worked - it also seems to have fixed the pulse audio latency

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-10 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, 4. Send network bandwidth approx 27 kBytes per second, which is about what the Internet bandwidth tools tell me I have available on this connection today. It seems to me that the new version takes every ounce of bandwidth it can get, with no cognizance taken of the bandwidth

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-10 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 10 Aug 2014 17:03:37 Ralph Corderoy wrote: http://community.skype.com/t5/Windows-desktop-client/Skype-and-increased-ban dwidth-usage/td-p/3057790 suggests you can't limit the quality of the video used; the best the bandwidth can cope with is chosen.

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-08 Thread Simon P Smith
On 07/08/14 20:55, Peter Merchant wrote: Peter, You need to download the 4.3 .deb from the skype web site. The 4.2 version does not work with the authentication API anymore. It cut me off in the middle of a call! Simon Thanks Simon, That got everything working again. Peter Glad it

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-08 Thread Terry Coles
On Friday 08 Aug 2014 13:28:32 Terry Coles wrote: Maybe they decided to withdraw that update. Answering myself. I thought it odd that I hadn't seen any updates for nearly a week so I launched the updater manually. Sure enough, there were a whole raft of updates to be applied, including

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-07 Thread Terry Coles
On Wednesday 06 Aug 2014 17:23:22 PeterMerchant wrote: Hi, Be careful of Skype. I have just done some updates on Kubuntu 14.10, which required a reboot, and now I cannot log into skype. It won't recognize my password. Can you remember what the updates were? Skype's working here on 14.10, but

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-07 Thread Terry Coles
On Thursday 07 Aug 2014 16:58:10 Terry Coles wrote: On Wednesday 06 Aug 2014 17:23:22 PeterMerchant wrote: Hi, Be careful of Skype. I have just done some updates on Kubuntu 14.10, which required a reboot, and now I cannot log into skype. It won't recognize my password. Can you remember

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-07 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, Can you remember what the updates were? Skype's working here on 14.10, but I haven't seen any updates today (yet). /var/log/apt/history.log should say what packages have been upgraded recently? Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-09-02 20:00 Meets,

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-07 Thread Simon P Smith
On 06/08/14 17:23, PeterMerchant wrote: Hi, Be careful of Skype. I have just done some updates on Kubuntu 14.10, which required a reboot, and now I cannot log into skype. It won't recognize my password. Peter, You need to download the 4.3 .deb from the skype web site. The 4.2 version does

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-07 Thread Peter Merchant
On 07/08/14 17:22, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Terry, Can you remember what the updates were? Skype's working here on 14.10, but I haven't seen any updates today (yet). /var/log/apt/history.log should say what packages have been upgraded recently? Cheers, Ralph. OK, It's 14.04 that I am on.

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-07 Thread Peter Merchant
On 07/08/14 17:42, Simon P Smith wrote: On 06/08/14 17:23, PeterMerchant wrote: Hi, Be careful of Skype. I have just done some updates on Kubuntu 14.10, which required a reboot, and now I cannot log into skype. It won't recognize my password. Peter, You need to download the 4.3 .deb from

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-27 Thread Terry Coles
On Friday 26 Apr 2013 19:08:29 Ralph Corderoy wrote: It seems to be telling me that the only version available is the one installed. Yes, it would, I forgot you'd moved up to the latest 13.04 release of Ubuntu, sorry. You're probably getting the package from

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-26 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, I'd like to try rolling Skype back to an earlier version, which is alleged to work. The trouble is that the various pages I've found just say to do just that without any guidance on what to do. Is Skype currently from a package from a repository, e.g. the Canonical `partner' one,

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-26 Thread Terry Coles
On Friday 26 Apr 2013 15:04:44 Ralph Corderoy wrote: sudo apt-show-versions -a -R -p ^skype Hmm. that command is returned not found. I've tried apropos as many combinations of apt / show / version as I can think of and no-show. -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-26 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, sudo apt-show-versions -a -R -p ^skype Hmm. that command is returned not found. It's from package `apt-show-versions'. I thought Ubuntu had a `command not found' handler set up in bash that would tell you the command wasn't found, what you may have intended, and in what package

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-26 Thread Terry Coles
On Friday 26 Apr 2013 16:52:46 Ralph Corderoy wrote: sudo apt-show-versions -a -R -p ^skype Hmm. that command is returned not found. It's from package `apt-show-versions'. I thought Ubuntu had a `command not found' handler set up in bash that would tell you the command wasn't found,

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-26 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, terry@BEIGE:~$ sudo apt-show-versions -a -R -p ^skype skype 4.1.0.20.0-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 install ok installed skype 4.1.0.20.0-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 raring archive.canonical.com skype/raring uptodate 4.1.0.20.0-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 skype-bin 4.1.0.20.0-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 install ok installed

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-25 Thread Terry Coles
On Saturday 13 Apr 2013 18:31:56 Natalie Hooper wrote: My guess would be nvidia, as it's a video driver so it could impact on whether a camera is found or not (if driver doesn't recognise your camera anymore for example or if driver sends to Skype some incompatibility signals). Well after

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-16 Thread Terry Coles
On Tuesday 16 Apr 2013 00:36:41 CPK Smithies wrote: If it would help, I have at home two working 64-bit Ubuntu installations of Skype. (I was hoping that I had the installation package but alas no.) I could e-mail the binary off list. I would also be glad to help any LUG member who wishes to

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-15 Thread CPK Smithies
If it would help, I have at home two working 64-bit Ubuntu installations of Skype. (I was hoping that I had the installation package but alas no.) I could e-mail the binary off list. I would also be glad to help any LUG member who wishes to test Skype. My ID is CPKS00. Kindest regards to all,

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-14 Thread Terry Coles
On Saturday 13 Apr 2013 18:31:56 Natalie Hooper wrote: My guess would be nvidia, as it's a video driver so it could impact on whether a camera is found or not (if driver doesn't recognise your camera anymore for example or if driver sends to Skype some incompatibility signals). I though

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-14 Thread Terry Coles
On Saturday 13 Apr 2013 21:11:45 Peter Merchant wrote: And with our friend google, discovered a forum entry that suggested I try the following string. I had to stop skype first, and dig out the password. sh -c 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so /usr/bin/skype $@' I

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-14 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, Just to be on the safe side, I installed qv4l2 and ran it. I was able to activate the webcam inside that, but still not inside skype. Does the camera have an activity LED? Does that light at all for Skype? What about the `test webcam' bit of Skype I see mentioned? All video

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-14 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 14 Apr 2013 12:26:37 Ralph Corderoy wrote: Does the camera have an activity LED? Does that light at all for Skype? What about the `test webcam' bit of Skype I see mentioned? Yes, no and no it doesn't work in the Skype setup. An interesting development. My mother called this morning

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-14 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, An interesting development. My mother called this morning and it turns out that video has stopped working for her too! Although she used to run Linux on her Asus netbook, she now runs W7 on her HP laptop.

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-14 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 14 Apr 2013 16:25:13 Ralph Corderoy wrote: http://community.skype.com/t5/Video-on-Windows/New-Skype-version-6-3-video-d oes-not-work-anymore-again-with/td-p/1503746 and http://community.skype.com/t5/Video-on-Windows/My-webcam-stop-working-after- the-latest-update-to-skype/m-p/1508454

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-13 Thread Terry Coles
On Saturday 13 Apr 2013 00:36:00 Ralph Corderoy wrote: What has changed to stop it working? :-) Perhaps /var/log/apt might give a clue as to what packages have been upgraded since then, e.g. kernel. I found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1147729 which might be

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-13 Thread Terry Coles
On Saturday 13 Apr 2013 08:32:03 Terry Coles wrote: That is almost certainly the problem; the kernel was updated to V 3.5.0-27 two days ago and this is the first time I'd used it since then. It looks like the previous update, to V 3.5.0-25, took place on the 9th. Apparently V 3.5.0-26 fixes

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-13 Thread Terry Coles
On Saturday 13 Apr 2013 12:01:28 Ralph Corderoy wrote: Well, it may be that the fix wasn't for your combination of hardware or doesn't cover all the breakage in some other way. Could still be worth trying an old kernel that you still have from when Skype did work. It doesn't look like it's

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-13 Thread Natalie Hooper
On 13 April 2013 13:26, Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk wrote: On Saturday 13 Apr 2013 12:01:28 Ralph Corderoy wrote: Well, it may be that the fix wasn't for your combination of hardware or doesn't cover all the breakage in some other way. Could still be worth trying an old kernel that

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-13 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, Natalie wrote: Start-Date: 2013-04-10 17:30:53 Upgrade: libgl1-mesa-dri:amd64 (9.0.2-0ubuntu0.1, 9.0.3-0ubuntu0.1), My guess would be nvidia It does stick out as a common culprit of all ills, doesn't it. :-) Do you have Cheese installed? Does your video camera work in it? If

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-13 Thread Peter Merchant
On 13/04/13 19:13, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Terry, Natalie wrote: Start-Date: 2013-04-10 17:30:53 Upgrade: libgl1-mesa-dri:amd64 (9.0.2-0ubuntu0.1, 9.0.3-0ubuntu0.1), My guess would be nvidia It does stick out as a common culprit of all ills, doesn't it. :-) Do you have Cheese installed?

[Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-12 Thread Terry Coles
Hi, Is anyone using Skype? On Kubuntu 12.10, video has suddenly stopped working, although the webcam kernel module has been loaded and works in other applications. When I try to enable video in Skype the list box says 'No device found'. Any thoughts? -- Terry Coles

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-12 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, Is anyone using Skype? On Kubuntu 12.10, video has suddenly stopped working, although the webcam kernel module has been loaded and works in other applications. When I try to enable video in Skype the list box says 'No device found'. What has changed to stop it working? :-)