Re: [Elecraft] didn't make myself very clear :(

[Brian Hemmis]

A great $ 50 investment is a download of Win4K3 which makes all this K3 
tweaking a breeze. Tom offers a sample download to try before buying. Works 
with the KX3 and on multiple computers too. No annual fee either. Buy it once !
73, Brian K3USC (since 1962)


> On Nov 19, 2015, at 9:03 PM, Bob N3MNT <b...@hogbytes.com> wrote:
> 
> The radio should work out of the box just fine.  As you find areas where you
> want to tweak a function ( ie filter width or keyer speed) read that portion
> of the manual.  Before you know it you will be an expert.  The radio is very
> forgiving and capable..Enjoy it while you learn it.
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] K3 Test Mode -> Rear Panel PTT

[Brian Moran via Elecraft]

I noticed that if I put the radio into Test mode, PTT on the front panel does 
'mock key the radio' and illuminate the TX light. 
However, if I ground the TX line into the rear panel in Test mode, it's ignored.
I didn't see this in the manual, nor did googling for "elecraft K3 test mode 
rear PTT" yield anything useful.
Others might get stumped on this one as I was for a bit, thinking that my PTT 
line was amiss.
Is this a bug? If not, can it be documented? Could it be a setting in a future 
firmware version?thanks,Brian N9ADG

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Re: [Elecraft] Sherwood Receiver Test Data - K3S Added Today (Don Wilhelm)

[Brian D. Comer]

I think if I chucked the power supply for my TCS12 TX and RX, the K3 and the
KX3 in the lake they would all end up at the bottom maybe take different
times to get there but I can't see any of them floating!

73
Brian KF6C.

-Original Message
Ohhh, and they need to include a power transformer which gives them 
enough weight to allow them to sink to the bottom of the lake.

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Re: [Elecraft] IMA boards?

[Brian Denley]

Looked but I only have a couple of spare Rework Eliminator card sets if anyone 
needs one.

Brian Denley
KB1VBF
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> On Nov 10, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Reuben Popp <reuben.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> In light of my recent question regarding MAB boards, does anyone have an
> extra IMA pcb?  All I need is the pcb as I can source the parts here.
> 
> Thanks in advance and 73
> Reuben
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 & accessories- SOLD

[Brian Hemmis]

Radio has been sold. Tnx to all who replied.


> On Nov 9, 2015, at 2:43 PM, Brian Hemmis <bhem...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> After much deliberation I have decided to sell my KX3. 2 years old, seldom 
> used , never off my desk & I’m a non-smoker. Radio looks and works like a new 
> one.
> 
> KX3-F (factory built) KX3 s/n 4641
> KXAT3-F Internal ATU
> KXBC3-F Internal NIMH Charge w/ Real-Time Clock
> KXFL3-F Dual-Passband Roofing Filter
> MH3 Hand Mic
> KX3-PCKT Accessory Cable Set
> KX3 book by Fred Cady
> KX3 Nifty Mini-Manual
> Nifty KX3 Desk Stand
> 
> Radio will be shipped in original factory box.
> 
> $ 1195 includes CONUS Shipping and PayPal Fees (or try it and pick it up at 
> my Cleveland, OH area QTH) - NO TRADES
> 
> Brian Hemmis K3USC (since 1962)
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[Elecraft] FS: KX3 & accessories

[Brian Hemmis]

After much deliberation I have decided to sell my KX3. 2 years old, seldom used 
, never off my desk & I’m a non-smoker. Radio looks and works like a new one.

KX3-F (factory built) KX3 s/n 4641
KXAT3-F Internal ATU
KXBC3-F Internal NIMH Charge w/ Real-Time Clock
KXFL3-F Dual-Passband Roofing Filter
MH3 Hand Mic
KX3-PCKT Accessory Cable Set
KX3 book by Fred Cady
KX3 Nifty Mini-Manual
Nifty KX3 Desk Stand

Radio will be shipped in original factory box.

$ 1195 includes CONUS Shipping and PayPal Fees  (or try it and pick it up at my 
Cleveland, OH area QTH) - NO TRADES

Brian Hemmis K3USC (since 1962)
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[Elecraft] FS: KX3 & accessories

[Brian Hemmis]

After much deliberation I have decided to sell my KX3. 2 years old, seldom used 
, never off my desk & I’m a non-smoker. Radio looks and works like a new one.

KX3-F (factory built) KX3 s/n 4641
KXAT3-F Internal ATU
KXBC3-F Internal NIMH Charge w/ Real-Time Clock
KXFL3-F Dual-Passband Roofing Filter
MH3 Hand Mic
KX3-PCKT Accessory Cable Set
KX3 book by Fred Cady
KX3 Nifty Mini-Manual
Nifty KX3 Desk Stand

Radio will be shipped in original factory box.

$ 1195 includes CONUS Shipping and PayPal Fees (or try it and pick it up at my 
Cleveland, OH area QTH) - NO TRADES

Brian Hemmis K3USC (since 1962)
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Re: [Elecraft] MAB boards for the K2?

[Brian Denley]

I'm interested.

Brian Denley
KB1VBF
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> On Nov 4, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Doug Shields <w4...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Rueben,
> I brokered the last bunch of MAB boards.  All have been sold.  If there
> is interest, we can make another run of boards.  I think I have a few parts
> left over but we can come up with full kits if anyone is interested in
> those.  If you are interested in boards or kits let me know.
> 
> Doug  W4DAS
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Reuben
> Popp
> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 4:07 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] MAB boards for the K2?
> 
> Does anyone know if any of the MAB board are still floating out there or
> does anyone have a spare for sale?
> 
> http://www.genebitsystems.com/david/K2MiscAccessoryBoard/index.htm
> 
> Thanks in advance as always, and 73
> Reuben 
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Re: [Elecraft] MAB boards for the K2?

[Brian Denley]

I would like one as well if you have enough.

Brian KB1VBF

Brian Denley
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> On Nov 4, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Reuben Popp <reuben.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Byron
> 
> I would like at least one at the bare minimum however if you have a minimum
> order requirement I'm sure we can work something out for that as well.
> 
> What are you asking per board?
> 
> Thanks and 73
> Reuben
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015, 5:49 PM Byron Servies <by...@n6nul.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have some spare, uncut and unpopulated, MAB boards. I'd have to work out
>> a price, but they are here if you want a couple.
>> 
>> 73, Byron N6NUL
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, November 4, 2015, Doug Shields <w4...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Rueben,
>>> I brokered the last bunch of MAB boards.  All have been sold.  If
>>> there
>>> is interest, we can make another run of boards.  I think I have a few
>>> parts
>>> left over but we can come up with full kits if anyone is interested in
>>> those.  If you are interested in boards or kits let me know.
>>> 
>>> Doug  W4DAS
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
>>> Reuben
>>> Popp
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 4:07 PM
>>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] MAB boards for the K2?
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know if any of the MAB board are still floating out there or
>>> does anyone have a spare for sale?
>>> 
>>> http://www.genebitsystems.com/david/K2MiscAccessoryBoard/index.htm
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance as always, and 73
>>> Reuben
>>> 
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[Elecraft] KSYN3A Upgrade Problem with my K3

[Brian F. Wruble]

Hi all,

I just replaced main and sub-receiver synthesizer boards with the upgraded
KSYN3A boards.

I seem to have lost audio from the sub-receiver.  When I activate "SUB" and
turn the balance control fully clockwise, all I get is silence.

I have restored the last configuration that worked (with the original
synthesizer boards) but that did not help.


Visual inspection tells me I have the boards installed correctly.  Can
anyone suggest where I should be looking?

Yes, I am using the latest (5.14) firmware.

Thanks.  73 de Brian W3BW

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Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A Upgrade Problem with my K3

[Brian F. Wruble]

No, I restored all my working config parameters.

I just found something:

It works with headphones, not with a speaker.  I must have something setup
wrong.


*Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.






On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Jim Sheldon <w...@cox.net> wrote:

> Check your menu items?  Maybe the KRX3 got accidentally shifted to "Not
> Installed"?  Also check the selections for audio output control in the menu.
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Brian F. Wruble" <bwru...@gmail.com>
> To: wb6r...@mac.com
> Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: 11/2/2015 5:07:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A Upgrade Problem with my K3
>
> I have.  They are in the right places, and wiggling makes no difference.
>>
>> I also am getting "SYN1 OK" and "SYN2 OK" indications.
>>
>>
>> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:58 PM, <wb6r...@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Check the TMP cables. - GL - Steve WB6RSE
>>>
>>>  On Nov 2, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Brian F. Wruble <bwru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  Visual inspection tells me I have the boards installed correctly.  Can
>>>  anyone suggest where I should be looking?
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A Upgrade Problem with my K3

[Brian F. Wruble]

OK.  It works with headphones, and Craig at Elecraft told me to change
SPKRS=2 to SPKRS=1, and now it works.  I think it probably never worked
with the speaker, and as I always use a headset, I never noticed before.

Thanks to Craig for the help!

73 de Brian W3BW

CASE CLOSED


*Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.






On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Jim Sheldon <w...@cox.net> wrote:

> Check your menu items?  Maybe the KRX3 got accidentally shifted to "Not
> Installed"?  Also check the selections for audio output control in the menu.
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Brian F. Wruble" <bwru...@gmail.com>
> To: wb6r...@mac.com
> Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: 11/2/2015 5:07:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A Upgrade Problem with my K3
>
> I have.  They are in the right places, and wiggling makes no difference.
>>
>> I also am getting "SYN1 OK" and "SYN2 OK" indications.
>>
>>
>> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:58 PM, <wb6r...@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Check the TMP cables. - GL - Steve WB6RSE
>>>
>>>  On Nov 2, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Brian F. Wruble <bwru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  Visual inspection tells me I have the boards installed correctly.  Can
>>>  anyone suggest where I should be looking?
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A Upgrade Problem with my K3

[Brian F. Wruble]

I have.  They are in the right places, and wiggling makes no difference.

I also am getting "SYN1 OK" and "SYN2 OK" indications.


*Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.






On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:58 PM, <wb6r...@mac.com> wrote:

> Check the TMP cables. - GL - Steve WB6RSE
>
> On Nov 2, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Brian F. Wruble <bwru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Visual inspection tells me I have the boards installed correctly.  Can
> anyone suggest where I should be looking?
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] 10 MHz Reference Oscillator

[brian]

Ron,

The MV89A is pretty incredible-- especially for the price.

I think two statements in your posting contradict each other though.
It isn't basically "on frequency" from a cold start.   It drifts 10's of 
Hz until the oven temp and oscillator stabilizes.

The second statement about taking 40 minutes is more accurate.

Upon receipt of mine, there was some calibration needed to have it 
accurate < 1 Hz.


After calibration and warmups of 2 hours to days, the residual drift was 
incredibly low <0.003 Hz/day!


For those who can live with it being powered continuously, it is an 
excellent unit to discipline the K3.


73 DE Brian/K3KO


On 10/31/2015 14:08 PM, Ron Durie wrote:

These OCXOs are less than 2" cube in size and available on e-Bay from
several dealers.  They cost about $30.
Search for: MORION MV89A.  My date is 08/18.  This is a 2008 year unit.  My
unit is hermetically sealed with NO adjustment available.  It is a double
oven model, made in St Petersburg.  It is very accurate up to 10 to the -9
or better.  More than enough accuracy for a K3.

I AM USING A MORION MV89A directly into my K3.  It runs on 12v and has
fantastic accuracy for the K3.  It is basically on Frequency from cold start
to as warm as you use it.  You never have to adjust your reference
oscillator in the K3 again.  My MV89A runs on 12v continuously.  It is not
practical, or advisable to turn it off and on with the K3.  From a cold turn
on the MV89A will take up to 40 minutes to get up on, or close to,
frequency.

The Trimble Thunderbolt is the best option and the most accurate, for a
service bench environment.  I have one running on my service bench.  It
works fine on the K3, however it is over-kill for the K3 and it is complex
with several boxes and a GPS antenna, etc. etc.

Ron Durie
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

[brian]

+ AGC parameters?
On 10/27/2015 20:28 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

We've made several changes to improve audio over years, and a K3S incorporates 
all of them:

- K3:  improved 12VDC decoupling to the AF amp
- K3:  added a dual low-noise LPF to eliminate residual sampling noise (mostly 
at 12 kHz)
- K3:  corrected DSP AGC algorithms, which were non-monotonic at some signal 
levels
- K3S: redesigned AF output and driver stages for lower IMD

Taken together, these changes provide a low-distortion, essentially flat audio 
passband. Most other modern transceivers use the same (or similar) class-AB 
final AF amp devices that we use in the K3/K3S, so how it sounds comes down to 
how RX EQ is set up, as well as the LO-CUT/HI-CUT (or shift/width) settings.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



On Oct 27, 2015, at 1:10 PM, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO  
wrote:


Operators disagree about K3/K3S audio.




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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - Unstable power output on 40m (digital modes)

[Brian - N5BCN via Elecraft]

Don,

Yes, things settle down with a dummy load, so it looks like I'm dealing with
RF feedback.

Per the original post, I'm using an Elecraft BL2 balun at the
coax/ladderline junction.  Shouldn't this act as the common mode choke that
you suggest or are you suggesting to place a common mode choke in addition
to the balun?

Interesting idea regarding the KPA100 latest version since 40m is the
troublesome band.  I purchased the KPA100 around 2011-2012, so I would think
it has the latest hardware but I'll double check when I get a chance.

73 Brian, N5BCN



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[Elecraft] K2 - Unstable power output on 40m (digital modes)

[Brian - N5BCN via Elecraft]

I'm having an issue with unstable power output using digital modes on 40m
above about 20 watts.  All other bands seem to be ok.

My antenna setup is as follows: a loop consisting of about 245 feet of wire,
feed line consists of about 21 feet of 450 ohm ladderline to an Elecraft BL2
balun, then about 3 feet of coax to KAT100/KPA100/K2.  I've tried the balun
in 1:1 and 4:1 configs with no apparent change.  The feed point of the loop
is in the attic above the shack, but the majority of the wire is outside
running along a wood fence.

No problems tuning any band including 40m.  When using digital modes, power
output and ALC action (no bars) appears normal on 10 through 30m, and even
works ok on 80m.  Haven't tried 160m.

However, when attempting digital modes (using a Signalink) on 40m, power
output and ALC action is "all over the place" and generally folds back to a
couple of watts.  The output also seems to be extremely "touchy" and
sensitive to the TX drive setting on the Signalink that's not apparent on
other bands.  I don't see this craziness using a dummy load, so I'm
suspecting maybe I'm getting RF feedback only on 40m for some reason.

I'm not sure what to try to mitigate this.  The variables I could change
would be to increase/decrease the ladderline length, try a more robust
balun, or maybe try a counterpoise wire tied to the balun's ground lug?  Any
ideas and suggestions would be most appreciated, I sure would like to be
able to use 40m!

73 Brian, N5BCN



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[Elecraft] New SP3 Speaker is worth every dollar

[Brian & Cyndi]

Picked up an SP3 at Pacificon yesterday. In this ham's opinion, it 
sounds and looks great and is worth every dollar.


From left to right, my K-Line is a P3, K3, SP3, and my KPA500 with a 
KAT500 tuner on top of it. The K3 looks very sharp flanked by the P3/SP3.


That link on the K3 Order page for the SP3 talks about a pretty 
interesting guy who made the original design.


Consider this a nudge for you fence sitters.

73,
Brian, W6FVI
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Radio check?

[brian]

Ron,
Second that.   I found it easier to maximize output by  substituting a 
1k resistor in series with a 1K pot for the 1.8 K resistor.   Also after 
connecting the battery backwards once,  a diode in series with the + 
supply was added.


73 de Brian/K3KO

This unit produces about S9 noise on most bands with a fresh battery.   
Great for aligning filters.


73 de Brian/K3KO
On 10/11/2015 20:28 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

Cdx are punk here in the Northwest today. Very few signals below 21 MHz.

If one of the little Elecraft sig gens is too pricy ($90 to $180), think
about assembling a little noise generator. I have one made out of a handful
of parts with the most expensive piece being the 9V battery. The late Tom
Hammond, N0SS, still has it on his web site:

http://www.mmccs.com/mmarc/n0ss/noise_generator_ac7ac-style.pdf

There are a couple of other versions on the same page.

Once you note how your S-meter reacts to it on each band when the rig is
obviously working well you can use it to see if your rig has gone deaf
later.

Ron AC7AC


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ae...@carolinaheli.com
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To: 'Cliff Frescura'; ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'ELECRAFT'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Radio check?

2.5 nothing band noise
5 nothing just band noise
10 signal S6.5 with lots of band noise but readable
15 S6.5~S7 readable and clear with band noise
20 S8.5 very strong with almost no noise
25 S9 solid tone of some kind, no other signal or sound evident.

I don't have the all band receive module if that matters..

I'm thinking everything is working and I just need better antennas.. ?
Thanks in advance.



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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Power jack size ?

[Brian Hunt]

Outside of the jack (hole) size is 6.50 +/- 0.04 mm diameter measured.  
Hole has a little springy contact that will accommodate a smaller plug.  
OD contact size of the plug is 5.50 +/- 0.02 mm measured.


Yeah, it's really confusing.

Brian, K0DTJ

On 10/9/2015 12:47, Dale Putnam wrote:

the outside contact size is what is being asked..
Mouser has a list of assortments.
Thankyou.

Have a great day,
  
  
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Dale - WC7S in Wy
  
  



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Subject: K1 Power jack size ?
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 13:45:04 -0600




E620026 is the part number for the hole-through PCB mounted power plug for the 
K1.
What is the outside size of that jack? the inside is  2.1mm.
  
I am planning to build a test jig for the K1 for the lab.


Thankyou,

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[Elecraft] Cheap ref osc to lock K3

[brian]

LA3ZA used a UBLOX NEO-7 GPS unit to lock his K3.
This $20 unit including complete development board can be obtained here.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301199083821

It's tiny, has a patch antenna (although a $10 active antenna works 
better) and consumes under 60ma.
It can be powered from +5v or a USB port.  It fits in a 2"x3" box. Once 
set up it is stand alone not requiring a computer connection.


There was some question as to whether the jitter of the unit would 
disqualify it as a decent ref osc.


A posting on the SpectrumLab group indicated that it seems quite 
adequate for K3 disciplining.

spectrumlabus...@yahoogroups.com

Accuracy within 0.02 to 0.03 Hz of a Rb standard.
Output spectrum seems to indicate that jitter is not a problem for this 
purpose.


73 de Brian/K3KO

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Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

[brian]

Fred,
I'm a fan of higher voltage -- perhaps 24 or 40 volts so that PA 
transistors can produce cleaner signals.   Doing so reduces any IR drop 
on power supply wiring by a factor of 2 or 3.  KISS.


 IC's are going to lower and lower voltages.   Multiple circuits within 
boxes require a menagerie of voltages.   One is faced with having to 
generate more heat in regulators dropping 40 volts to 12, maybe 5, 3.3 
and 1.6 V.   Perhaps the era of efficient multivoltage power supplies 
with multiple wires for multiple voltages will return.   (Remember 
filament ,plate, screen and grid voltage power supplies in days of 
yore?  Guys generally didn't mistakenly hook up the 3500 V B+ wire to 
the filaments..)


73 de Brian/K3KO


On 10/2/2015 19:54 PM, Fred Townsend wrote:

Joe, I am familiar with Kelvin sensing, otherwise known as 4 wire or remote 
sensing. Its advantages are probably outweighed by the risks of misconnecting and 
filtering needed for RF environments. With <4 feet of 10 ga wire I don't see 
significant voltage drops. I prefer KISS.
73
Fred, AE6QL

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Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 12:33 PM
To: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

On 10/2/2015 12:33 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

The SS30DV has +/- bolt terminals on the rear. The K3S is supplied
with a power cable using ring lugs for these bolts on one end, and an
APP connector for the K3S on the other.

Very good!  How about remote sensing terminals/connector on the next iteration of the 
K3/K3S - ideally on the KPA3 ?

73,

 ... Joe, W4TV


On 10/2/2015 12:33 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

The SS30DV has +/- bolt terminals on the rear. The K3S is supplied
with a power cable using ring lugs for these bolts on one end, and an
APP connector for the K3S on the other.

One other note, at the 100W operating level, we do not see any
significant voltage drop across the APP conn.

73,

Eric
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On 10/2/2015 8:53 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

I prefer a PS with black and red connectors so I can connect any
cable and don´t worry about connectors.

Quality *bolt* terminals will generally show less voltage drop in
transmit than the wiping contacts like PowerPole connectors.  That is
particularly true when the PowerPoles are not assembled correctly and
there is less than full pressure between the wiping contacts.

I would prefer any power supply and transceiver with greater than 5A
current rating use 1/4" or 3/8" stub bolted connections like the
Astron RS-35A/RS-35M and potentially provide a voltage sense
connection to support load sensing for supplies that support it or
can be modified to support it.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 10/2/2015 11:33 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote:

Hello Matt

Thanks for the Info.

I have two SEC-1235M and I hate the terminal screws, I think they
are aluminum and I broke them if removing power cable too much times

I prefer a PS with black and red connectors so I can connect any
cable and don´t worry about connectors.

Thanks!
Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W

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02 de octubre de 2015 12:13 p.m.
Para: Jorge Diez - CX6VM
CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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Hi Jorge,

I have both power supplies here  - SS30DV and the Samlex SEC1235M.

Except for the 1235 having voltage and current meters (the SS30 does
not), there is little difference in performance.  One thing that
might affect your decision is that the 1235 has an (internally)
adjustable output voltage.
The SS30DV is fixed at 14.1V.

I run full power with a K3 and with a KX3/KXPA100 with either power
supply, and no isssues found with either one.

73,
matt
W6NIA

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 09:18:32 -0300, you wrote:


Hello



I will appreciate feedback from users of the SS30DV power supply
with a
K3



Are you happy with it?  With full power on the K3, the SS30DV is
running comfortable? IS noisy?



If you compare for example with a Samlex SEC-1235M, what do you think?



Thanks very much



73,

Jorge

CX6VM/CW5W



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Re: [Elecraft] [K1] Question about antenna tuners that I should not have to ask but do.

[Brian Hunt]

Another way to approach this problem is from the other end. I've had pretty 
good success using antenna simulation software, EZNEC, to estimate the feed 
point impedance of an antenna and then use TLW to simulate the rest of the 
chain to see what's going on. The key is to do as faithful simulation of the 
antenna as you can. 

EZNEC (a limited version) is on the ARRL Antenna Book CD.  

73,
Brian, K0DTJ
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[Elecraft] K1 Initial Build - LED and LCD Test

[Brian Moran]

I'm helping out K7BTW with his K1 kit; we've got it assembled and tested to the 
point of #7 - Alignment and Test. We have done all of the somewhat static value 
checks and tests up to this point.
When we turn the unit on (with no smoke or heating parts), the ATTN yellow 
light comes on, then off, then the RIT/XIT light flashes green, then RED (not 
really orange, to my eye. Yes, the 100K R9 and R10 around the LM358 op-amp are 
installed correctly). Then it goes out, then the ATTN light comes on again 
briefly, then it goes out.
We get NOTHING on the LCD Display.
We've run all of the continuity tests on the data lines, etc. 

If we power on the rig while holding the DISPLAY -or- the EDIT button, then the 
LED sequence is as above, except that the ATTN light stays on while the button 
is pressed; releasing the button shows "109" on the LCD (looks like the LCD is 
working).
If I knew what the firmware was expecting from the hardware between the light 
sequence and the initial LCD display, I could better determine where we are 
finding some error. I suspect the CPU is expecting some condition that we 
aren't able to satisfy because of an error somewhere that we've not found yet.

Suspecting that perhaps the EEPROM was a little scrambed, I held the EDIT and 
DISPLAY buttons down while powering  on - that didn't really do anything, still 
no LCD display.
Can anyone suggest any further troubleshooting, or locations to look at? 
Thanks!-Brian N9ADG

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[Elecraft] K1 Initial Build, no LCD, but will display version on power up -- FOUND IT!

[Brian Moran]

The issue turned out to be an OPEN RFC6 on the RF board, so no 6v to the RF 
board. I suspect that the Key In line (powered through a voltage divider) or 
some other line was presenting something the CPU couldn't deal with 
(algorithmically).
Careful measurement of all of the voltages pointed us to it. 

Perhaps this will help someone in the future;
-Brian N9ADG
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 (or, K3) 2-meter solid-state amplifier

[Brian Linn]

Yes, a 2m amp from Electraft would be desireable.

73, Brian KD0HII

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Hystad
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 16:58
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 (or, K3) 2-meter solid-state amplifier

I am curious — how much interest is there in a 2-meter, solid-state, amplifier 
from Elecraft that could be used with either the KX3 or the K3.

I own a KX3 with the 2-meter option and I have considered buying a 2-meter 
amplifier in the 35 to 90 watt power range (or, something close to that).  But, 
I would rather have an Elecraft product.  Do others feel the same way or am I 
wanting too much?


73, phil, K7PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

[brian]

Comparisons with single signal stations seems irrelevant.

Is anybody addressing the issue of QRM from other stations?   I suspect 
digital will fold -- especially when one is trying to detect one out of 
many or a station immersed in splatter from one or more stations.


The ability of the mind to pull out an individual station in the analog 
QRMed world would seem to be lost.  This is best illustrated by people 
being able to decode one voice of many at a party.


Here the switch to digital TV has been frustrating.  Stations which had 
previously been received acceptably are spotty.   The digital cliff 
effects are a killer.   The one station we really like to watch (PBS 55 
miles away, two edge diffraction reception) is greatly effected by 
day/night, the seasons and weather conditions. Admittedly some of 
degradation is due to the move from VHF to UHF. However I suspect that 
an analog transmission on the same frequencies would still be 
watchable.   Part of the problem at UHF is enhancement of multipath 
effects.  (Also DTV apparently is transmitting with 6db less power which 
is supposed to be made up by the digital decoding at the reception end. 
)  One sees this with a highly directional high gain antenna.   A 
station will drop out and if you bump the antenna a few degrees, it will 
return and then drop out.  It is a dance between the rotor to try to 
keep a station locked.If these multipath effects are so significant 
for digital, single signal one might expect the problem to exist in 
spades on HF.  Anybody who has looked at WWV carrier transmissions on a 
high resolution FFT display can see several distinct signals due to 
multipath shifted by up to 2 Hz at times.   The strongest of the bunch 
moves from FFT bin to bin.  As a side note, those HDTV stations who 
stayed on low VHF channels have had no end of problems.


Apples and oranges perhaps.

73 de Brian/K3KO
On 9/18/2015 2:16 AM, Gary wrote:

Don,

Absolutely spot on sir.

Gary

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To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

You have listed 3 digital voice modes that do not talk to each other.
Furthermore, I recall that these are proprietary coding schemes.
That is not "Ham Radio" in my mind.  Ham Radio is "everyone can talk to
everyone else", and those digital voice systems where you can only talk
to those hams who have purchased the same brand of equipment as you have
selected is more like commercial circuits where you want to shut out
those who do not 'speak the same language that you do'.

I don't think proprietary protocols belong on the ham bands - just my
not so humble opinion.  Yes, I am also opposed to proprietary data modes.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/17/2015 9:03 PM, Robert Nobis wrote:

Take a look at the digital voice modes that are being used on the VHF and UHF 
bands: DMR, D-STAR and Fusion.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

[brian]

Robust maybe but hardly speedy further out.
Here are some bit rates from HORIZON space craft:
Jupiter Flyby - 35 kbps
Pluto - 2000 bps
http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/Mission/Spacecraft/Data-Collection.php

The bit rate drops to hundreds of bits/second further out.

73 de Brian/K3KO


On 9/18/2015 16:17 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:

Digital tends to be either perfect armchair copy, or fairly unusable.

It's going to depend a whole lot on how it's encoded, the data rate, 
and how much error detection and correction is used.


Bump up the data rate, do some forward error correction and it's 
likely to be fairly robust.  Some of the methods used by NASA to 
encode signals from deep space probes are incredibly robust.


-- Lynn

On 9/18/2015 1:18 AM, brian wrote:
Is anybody addressing the issue of QRM from other stations?   I 
suspect digital will fold -- especially when one is trying to detect 
one out of many or a station immersed in splatter from one or more 
stations. 


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Re: [Elecraft] Analog vs. Digital Front Ends

[brian]

Look at the A/D converter as a chip tool that could potentially be used 
in ham RX design.


If one wanted a ham band RX using an A/D front end,  certainly one would 
add front end filters.


Of course, that would only help solve the problem with out of band 
signals.  Handling the vector sum of in band signals would still have to 
be designed for.


The concept however is a good one.  Who knows where these A/D chips will 
be in 2, 5 or 10 years.


I remember when GPS was in its infancy.   Many people thought it was 
crazy to think that a bunch of low orbit non-geosynchronous satellites 
could be used for extremely accurate positioning. Besides the ground 
equipment required would be too expensive for most users.  History 
proves them wrong.



73 de Brian/K3KO



On 9/16/2015 12:25 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

On 9/16/2015 12:43 AM, Alan wrote:

So how long before ADC technology catches up to the K3? If Moore's
law applied (doubling of performance every couple years) it wouldn't
be long. Unfortunately Moore's law applies mainly to digital
circuitry but the key parts of an ADC are analog (the "A" in "ADC").
Unless there is a big theoretical breakthrough in ADC architecture, I
think we still have some years to wait.


The question really boils down to when will we see affordable high
voltage ADCs.  The problem is that every signal in the input passband
is in series and the [peak] voltage adds as a vector sum.  So if one
S9+63dB (-10 dBm) signal causes the ADC to overflow (consistent with
the noise loading limit in the AB4OJ/VA7OJ tests of the Flex-6000
series) the ADC limit is 0.1V (peak) at the antenna.  Spread that 0.1V
across multiple [equal strength] signals and you see the following:

 N  "S"
--
 1 S9 +63 dB (-10 dBm)
 3 S9 +53 dB
10 S9 +43 dB
32 S9 +33 dB
   100 S9 +23 dB
   316 S9 +13 dB
  ~450 S9 +10 dB
  1000 S9  +3 dB
 ~1400 S9  +0 dB (-73 dBm)

Since it is the instantaneous peaks that cause problems, increasing 
the number of signals decreases the frequency of the ADC overflows.  
There

is certainly analysis that can be done to compute the probability of a
peak given a specific number of signals and frequency distribution but
my best guess is that the number of signals involved will be somewhere
between 10 and 100.  Of course, if one of those signals is very strong
- a 1.5 KW neighbor 0.5 miles away or a broadcast station that puts
a few volts on any wire in the air - it does not take many (if any)
additional S9+10 dB signals to push the system over the edge.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3S Pin 1 question

[Brian Denley]

I agree with Don as well here.  I use a Behringer Shark DSP110 which has both 
balanced XLR and 1/4 inch mono inputs and outputs that can be set to line or 
mic levels.  It also provides a noise gate and mic gain if you need it.  You 
can stay balanced as far as you want.   It was ~$50 used.
Brian 
KB1VBF
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> On Sep 14, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Jim Brown <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon,9/14/2015 10:25 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> I would preserve the balanced configuration through your switchbox and only 
>> connect the mic low to ground at each radio's plug.
> 
> As usual, we agree. :)
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Brian & Cyndi]

Did the boys at HamCon quote a price for the speaker?

73,
Brian, W6FVI


On 9/14/2015 11:51 AM, Cliff Frescura wrote:

I don't know where it is made, but I was able to see one in the flesh at
HamCon this past weekend and it has a solid feel and weight to it (in
addition to sounding great too).  Seems like a no brainer addition to me.

One wish would be to have the headphone jack on the speaker and use the
input switch (as an output switch) to switch between headphone and speaker,
so that the headphones can stay plugged in (I modified my SP-940 to work
this way)

73,

Cliff K3LL/6

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ae...@carolinaheli.com
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:39 AM
To: a...@sbcglobal.net; ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Bob McGraw - K4TAX'; 'Wayne
Burdick'; 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

I guess I shouldn't have assumed anything but I did..


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Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 12:03 PM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Bob McGraw - K4TAX'; 'Wayne Burdick'; 'Elecraft
Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

Jerry's (AE4PB) post and others suggest new speaker is actually made in the
USA.  Is that true??
Mike  AC5P


  On Monday, September 14, 2015 10:34 AM, "ae...@carolinaheli.com"
<ae...@carolinaheli.com> wrote:



  I believe when you consider the engineering reputation of Elecraft and
economies of scale for the manufacture of the SP3 several expectations
arise:
1. This is likely a very well-engineered component that's not easily
replaced by a similar sized speaker.
2. Performance of the speaker exceeds similarly priced speakers (and
definitely less expensive ones to a degree).
3. There is NOT likely a premium baked in to the price for the Elecraft name
due to the economies of scale (low quantity manufacture generally means
higher costs, thus higher price). Translation - the price isn't just for the
name.

At the end of the day consider the labor costs plus parts are likely fairly
high if they are US manufactured.

The US consumer is the sole reason most US manufacturing has gone overseas
(especially China). Buy cheap, get cheap.

So it comes down to a question of quality vs "good enough" vs "price"

I can only speak for myself in saying that it means something to have a
matching set rather than a hodgepodge.
I do compromise and use what I have to be able to get the job done UNTIL
I've saved enough for the next piece.

Personally the SP3 is last on my list because most if not all of my
operating will be with headphones.
The point here is that it's on my list :)



Jerry Moore
AE4PB, K3S SN# Arrives Wed.






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McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 3:28 PM
To: Wayne Burdick; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

New products are always welcome.  I look forward to "hearing them" at maybe
one of the next ham fests.  I like the fact the SP3 uses an oval speaker.
I've never figured out exactly why, but I find ovals typically do sound
better than rounds, but maybe it seems to be only in my findings.

As a comment, I prefer non-amplified speakers as this avoids the potential
RFI issues when used with the radio.  The model that I mentioned and use has
a slight tilt to the bottom which aligns the front with the K3S with its
front elevated by the stand.

I also find the audio system in the K3S to be really nice, specially the
2 channel effect using the AFX feature along with a stereo speaker
configuration.  This give a nice wide spatial effect to which I find very
pleasing.  Thanks Wayne and company for doing a fine job with the K3S and
its new features.

73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163

On 9/13/2015 2:09 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Hi all,

The K3 or K3S will work with a wide range of speakers, including the
ones

Bob (K4TAX) mentioned.

Here are some possible reasons for using an SP3:

- matches the K-Line perfectly, including a rugged fold-up tilt stand
- full stereo A/B source selection, supporting dual-rig and
dual-speaker configurations (or both)
- plenty of room inside the cabinet for built-ins that might improve
station integration

Of course these factors don't apply to everyone. But the good news is
that we will no longer have to say "maybe next year" every time
someone asks us to add a matching speaker to the product line :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR


Bob McGraw - K4TAX <rmcg...@blomand.net> wrote:


I use a pair of "off the shelf" brand speakers which have 2" x 4"
ovals

in a nice efficient solid enclosure that is 5" deep







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Re: [Elecraft] OT - RX Active Multicoupler Diagrams/Design

[Brian Denley]

I built this one a few years ago and it's been terrific:

http://www.w8zr.net/multicontroller/index.htm

Brian 
KB1VBF
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> On Sep 13, 2015, at 2:12 PM, Yngvi (TF3Y) <t...@tf3y.net> wrote:
> 
> Some off-list correspondence with Mel K6KBE and Brian K3KO made me realize
> that the KO6BB design at the second link posted is superior and I will
> proceed with building along those lines.
> 
> Thanks / 73
> Yngvi TF3Y
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Yngvi (TF3Y) <t...@tf3y.net> wrote:
>> 
>> To follow up on my previous OT posting then I have found two designs on
>> the web sofar, quite different constructions:
>> http://www.schmitzhouse.com/Johns_Electronics_24.htm
>> http://www.qsl.net/ko6bb/multicoupler_2.html
>> 
>> I currently favor the first design but got some doubts on the dynamic
>> range.
>> 
>> 73, Yngvi TF3Y
>> 
>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Yngvi (TF3Y) <t...@tf3y.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Pardon the Off Topic but I'm looking for a diagram / design for an active
>>> HF receive moulticoupler with outstanding dynamic range.
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Yngvi TF3Y
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] SideKar vs PX3

[Brian Waterworth]

Correct on the RPi2.  I did just that with FLDigi on Raspian.  Works great
 and gives me a low power, low cost Digital transcoder for more than just
PSK31, RTTY, and CW.  The only issue I wrote about in this chain previously
is the need for a screen and a keyboard.  I did that with a Bluetooth
keyboard attached to an iPad which used VNC to the RPi2.  Talk about using
a sledgehammer to hang a picture hook.  Of course, I had all these
components already and wanted to reuse them.  So, the cost was sunk for
other purposes, not for a portable digital station.  While this setup
worked, it was a lot of stuff to carry.

The epiphany that surfaced from the Elecraft reflector participants in this
conversation was that a low cost, small laptop would provide all the
logging, digital transcoding needs for a portable HF station predicated on
the KX3.  Often, you can find smaller laptops, refurbished, for less than
$200.

regards,
Brian
VE3IBW

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 10:00 AM, <ae...@carolinaheli.com> wrote:

> AFAIK based on reading the SideKar site it's just reporting what the Kline
> radio is giving it already decoded. $250 is a bit much when you think about
> what the box does. Seems to me you could build up a RaspberryPi solution to
> do the same thing with a few tweaks for under $100 AND have something
> that's easily re-purposed..etc.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Any gain with a new synth?

[Brian Hemmis]

That’s kind of what I’ve been thinking too, Bill. With my often high noise 
level suburban location combined with modest wire and vertical antennas I think 
it would be overkill and not worth the investment. As it is I often joke that 
the K3 for me like driving a McLaren to the grocery store-way more than I need. 
That said I’m not parting with it ! Thanks Elecraft for at least giving us the 
upgrade option.
73, Brian K3USC (since 1962)
> On Sep 6, 2015, at 9:16 AM, Bill <w2...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Thank you for all the answers - here and email. I appreciate the candidness.
> 
> Unfortunately, for Elecraft, I have decided to keep my K3 as it is. In my 
> instance, I don't see enough potential improvement to justify the expense and 
> labor (considerable to get the rig to the bench and back). I think it is 
> really difficult to enhance the K3's already incredible operation.
> 
> But, as I said, this is in my instance (use and QTH).
> 
> Bill W2BLC K-Line
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[Elecraft] Problem connecting KX3 to Win4K3

[Brian Hemmis]

Haven’t used my KX3 in many months so I hooked it back up and went to the 
Elecraft site and updated everything with no issues.
As I recently purchased Win4K3 software and am successfully using it with my K3 
I figured I’d try it with the KX3. No luck.
My KX3 shows up on COM4 on my computer (for the Elecraft updates) so I 
initially tried that unsuccessfully then went through the other COM ports as 
well.
I tried the default 38400 baud rate as well as the 9600 baud rate. I also 
retried everything with the K3 disconnected from the computer.
I’m sure its some stupid thing I’m not doing and perhaps I should contact Tom 
at Win4K3 but I thought I’d try here first.
Any thoughts ?
73, Brian K3USC

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Re: [Elecraft] Problem connecting KX3 to Win4K3- Problem solved ! Solution below...

[Brian Hemmis]

Got a reply back from Tom (Mr. Win4K3) in short order…here’s what he said to do 
and now it works !

Hi,
The KX3 is usually set up by default to run at 9600 baud.  There is a menu 
option in the radio (RS232) to set it at 38400 which is what I usually tell 
people to do.
The Elecraft utility auto senses baud rate, so it doesn't matter but Win4K3 
doesn't so you need to have it set up in the KX3 itself.
Let me know if this fixes the issue please.
Thanks

What a great guy, great product and Elecraft-like support.
Life is pretty good :-)
73, Brian K3USC


> On Sep 4, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Brian Hemmis <bhem...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Haven’t used my KX3 in many months so I hooked it back up and went to the 
> Elecraft site and updated everything with no issues.
> As I recently purchased Win4K3 software and am successfully using it with my 
> K3 I figured I’d try it with the KX3. No luck.
> My KX3 shows up on COM4 on my computer (for the Elecraft updates) so I 
> initially tried that unsuccessfully then went through the other COM ports as 
> well.
> I tried the default 38400 baud rate as well as the 9600 baud rate. I also 
> retried everything with the K3 disconnected from the computer.
> I’m sure its some stupid thing I’m not doing and perhaps I should contact Tom 
> at Win4K3 but I thought I’d try here first.
> Any thoughts ?
> 73, Brian K3USC
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Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

[brian]

It is may be time to rethink the display.  The functionality added 
through the years has resulted in display of certain settings is pretty 
obscure (e.g. flashing decimal point is supposed to mean something)


The difficulty may be display size constraints.   Lacking a bigger 
display, it would mean even smaller letters et al.   That isn't a good 
idea.   Given the creativity of Elecraft engineers, perhaps the current 
display size could still work.


73 de Brian/K3KO



On 9/3/2015 13:57 PM, Chris Hallinan wrote:

I'll add my $0.02.  I'm not a huge fan of touch screen for the same reasons
John mentions.  However, I would surely welcome a more modern color screen
on my K3.  Maybe even a few programmable touch buttons in a similar fashion
to the buttons across the bottom of the P3.

Hey, we all bought into the Elecraft performance story, and voted with our
dollars.  But who wouldn't want a more modern look and feel, which by
definition means a color graphics screen. That sentiment has been echoed
before on this list, and I'm a newbie here, less than a year.

Here's a crazy idea: Take the P3 display and put it into the K3.  And then
I wouldn't have to purchase a separate unit just for a panadapter.  I bet
I'm not alone when I say my operating space has much competition for prime
desktop real estate!!!  The idea of a separate standalone panadapter is
pretty "old school" ;)  What modern high performance rig doesn't have one
built in?  Don't bash me on that, I voted with my $$$, I'm a proud K3/P3
owner.  But I can have a wish list, can't I?  ;)

-Chris
K1AY

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:06 AM, John Fritze <fritzej...@gmail.com> wrote:


While I think touch screen technology is neat, and perhaps faster, my main
complaint is the screen is always filthy with finger oils.  Yes I can wipe
it off, but experience with an AVmap GPS, my Galaxy 5, an Ipad and a
Windows 8,1 laptop tells me that touch screen is not always the best
solution.  I like my screens clear and clean because if sun or incandescent
light hits at an angle it is difficult to read when full of smudges.

--
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Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

[Brian Denley]

I'm with Chris.  I like knobs too but touch screens are here to stay.

Brian 
KB1VBF
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> On Sep 3, 2015, at 9:57 AM, Chris Hallinan <challi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'll add my $0.02.  I'm not a huge fan of touch screen for the same reasons
> John mentions.  However, I would surely welcome a more modern color screen
> on my K3.  Maybe even a few programmable touch buttons in a similar fashion
> to the buttons across the bottom of the P3.
> 
> Hey, we all bought into the Elecraft performance story, and voted with our
> dollars.  But who wouldn't want a more modern look and feel, which by
> definition means a color graphics screen. That sentiment has been echoed
> before on this list, and I'm a newbie here, less than a year.
> 
> Here's a crazy idea: Take the P3 display and put it into the K3.  And then
> I wouldn't have to purchase a separate unit just for a panadapter.  I bet
> I'm not alone when I say my operating space has much competition for prime
> desktop real estate!!!  The idea of a separate standalone panadapter is
> pretty "old school" ;)  What modern high performance rig doesn't have one
> built in?  Don't bash me on that, I voted with my $$$, I'm a proud K3/P3
> owner.  But I can have a wish list, can't I?  ;)
> 
> -Chris
> K1AY
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:06 AM, John Fritze <fritzej...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> While I think touch screen technology is neat, and perhaps faster, my main
>> complaint is the screen is always filthy with finger oils.  Yes I can wipe
>> it off, but experience with an AVmap GPS, my Galaxy 5, an Ipad and a
>> Windows 8,1 laptop tells me that touch screen is not always the best
>> solution.  I like my screens clear and clean because if sun or incandescent
>> light hits at an angle it is difficult to read when full of smudges.
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Taking KX3 to Italy on vac number 2

[Brian Hunt]

You should take a copy of your purchase receipt with you. That way it won't be 
questioned when you come home. I've never had a problem but I always carry the 
receipts for high value camera equipment. 

Have a great trip!
73,
Brian, K0DTJ
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility

[Brian Linn]

Warren:

FYI. I'm running into serial ports on the PC, not USB.

Brian KD0HII

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Merkel
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 07:21
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility

Brian,

I had this happen to me one time.I believe it was trying to find the
KAT500 on a port that was no longer the correct COM port.   A device was
there but it wasn't the KAT500.Try unplugging all other USB devices
that you can, leaving only the KAT500 connected,  and start the application 
again.  (Kill the task in the process list if you see it's already there)  If 
no joy, try disabling any COM port sharing software you might be using as well.

I just tried to find where the KAT500 utility stores config info and 
interestingly didn't find a thing in what looks to be the right place
(  %appdata%\Elecraft\KAT500 Configuration)   The folder is empty!
Was hoping it was just a config file that we could look at.

Might I suggest you look in the Control Panel Device Manager, and
determine which port is being assigned to the KAT500.   It should be
listed under Ports and LPT   It shows up as USB Serial Port (COMx)  
Where x is a number.  Make mental note of what the COMx is in your
case.That at least means that the KAT500 is being recognized by the
computer and is assigned a COM port.   If this port assignment doesn't
make sense from what you expect or what it was using previously, possibly the 
Utility is hung  while trying to use different port than what it is being 
assigned to the KAT500 now-- and not doing a good job of telling you it's 
having an issue.

Have you tried uninstalling the Utility completely and then reinstall
it?   Hopefully the uninstaller will remove the incorrect configuration
information on the way out.  The developer needs to chime in on where that is 
kept.

Warren
KD4Z


On 8/23/2015 10:22 PM, Ken K6MR wrote:
 This is a tough one given that everyone else is likely running without issue.

 The common/obvious question: did you install as Administrator and are you 
 running the utility as Administrator? Depending on resource requests from the 
 program this can be a problem. Is the user you are running as an 
 Administrator? If not, right click on the setup file and select “Run as 
 Administrator”. Do the same when running the Utility. 

 I just downloaded the latest utility and installed/ran without issue.  This 
 is Win10 x64, but I also run it on W7.

 Ken K6MR


 From: Brian Linn
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 17:22
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility


 To Anyone!

  

 Issue: KAT500 Utility will not run

 Version: 1.14.4.10

 Windows: 7 Pro 64 bit

 Observations:

 1)  It appears to correctly install

 2)  When one attempts to start the utility, it shows in the Task Manager
 as a process (KAT500Utility.exe *32)

 3)  The application window does not show on the screen.

 4)  The application is not listed in the Task Manager under
 Applications.

 5)  If one attempts to start the utility again, the application window
 will show on the screen and a second process will show in the Task 
 Manager processes.

 6)  The application then goes into a Not Responding state.

  

 Any ideas are welcome.

  

 73,

 Brian KD0HII

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility

[Brian Linn]

All:

Thanks for the input. I've determined that I do indeed have a problem with the 
4 port serial card. Thus, before going any further here, I'm going to run some 
tests and see about getting the ports working properly.

73, Brian KD0HII

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From: Kenneth Christiansen [mailto:w...@i29.net] 
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 20:41
To: Brian Linn
Cc: Warren Merkel; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility

Hi to the group.

I have not wanted to get into this discussion but I have had a similar problem 
with other programs and will throw this out just in case it is your problem. If 
you have a second monitor and display that program on the second monitor the 
program will not show up on the main monitor even if the second monitor is 
missing. I had to put my second monitor back on and move the program back to 
see it. This happens on Windows 8, 8.1 and 10 so you might give that a try. 

73 and hope I did not waste band width.

Ken  W0CZ   w0cz at i29 dot net

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 On Aug 24, 2015, at 6:34 PM, Brian Linn br...@brianlinn.com wrote:
 
 Warren:
 
 FYI. I'm running into serial ports on the PC, not USB.
 
 Brian KD0HII
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
 Warren Merkel
 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 07:21
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility
 
 Brian,
 
 I had this happen to me one time.I believe it was trying to find the
 KAT500 on a port that was no longer the correct COM port.   A device was
 there but it wasn't the KAT500.Try unplugging all other USB devices
 that you can, leaving only the KAT500 connected,  and start the application 
 again.  (Kill the task in the process list if you see it's already there)  If 
 no joy, try disabling any COM port sharing software you might be using as 
 well.
 
 I just tried to find where the KAT500 utility stores config info and 
 interestingly didn't find a thing in what looks to be the right place
 (  %appdata%\Elecraft\KAT500 Configuration)   The folder is empty!
 Was hoping it was just a config file that we could look at.
 
 Might I suggest you look in the Control Panel Device Manager, and
 determine which port is being assigned to the KAT500.   It should be
 listed under Ports and LPT   It shows up as USB Serial Port (COMx)  
 Where x is a number.  Make mental note of what the COMx is in your
 case.That at least means that the KAT500 is being recognized by the
 computer and is assigned a COM port.   If this port assignment doesn't
 make sense from what you expect or what it was using previously, possibly the 
 Utility is hung  while trying to use different port than what it is being 
 assigned to the KAT500 now-- and not doing a good job of telling you it's 
 having an issue.
 
 Have you tried uninstalling the Utility completely and then reinstall
 it?   Hopefully the uninstaller will remove the incorrect configuration
 information on the way out.  The developer needs to chime in on where that is 
 kept.
 
 Warren
 KD4Z
 
 
 On 8/23/2015 10:22 PM, Ken K6MR wrote:
 This is a tough one given that everyone else is likely running without issue.
 
 The common/obvious question: did you install as Administrator and are you 
 running the utility as Administrator? Depending on resource requests from 
 the program this can be a problem. Is the user you are running as an 
 Administrator? If not, right click on the setup file and select “Run as 
 Administrator”. Do the same when running the Utility. 
 
 I just downloaded the latest utility and installed/ran without issue.  This 
 is Win10 x64, but I also run it on W7.
 
 Ken K6MR
 
 
 From: Brian Linn
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 17:22
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility
 
 
 To Anyone!
 
 
 
 Issue: KAT500 Utility will not run
 
 Version: 1.14.4.10
 
 Windows: 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 Observations:
 
 1)  It appears to correctly install
 
 2)  When one attempts to start the utility, it shows in the Task Manager
 as a process (KAT500Utility.exe *32)
 
 3)  The application window does not show on the screen.
 
 4)  The application is not listed in the Task Manager under
 Applications.
 
 5)  If one attempts to start the utility again, the application window
 will show on the screen and a second process will show in the Task 
 Manager processes.
 
 6)  The application then goes into a Not Responding state.
 
 
 
 Any ideas are welcome.
 
 
 
 73,
 
 Brian KD0HII
 
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Re: [Elecraft] RJ-45 was K2.....

[brian]

Plus there is still another crimp tool to buy/find/use if you want to 
make your own connectors.
I wonder who has the most crimp tool laying around and how many. Repair 
of the jack on the rig side is no picnic either.


73 de Brian/K3KO
On 8/23/2015 19:29 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:



On 8/23/15 11:57 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
I really dislike the current trend of using the RJ45 as a mic jack.  
Motorola started using them that way and it ended up being one of 
worst reliability parts in the system.  RJ45 don't take to being 
physically stressed constantly (at the end of a mic cable).
I sure agree, Ed. Had to replace a Yaesu FM xcvr mic last year for 
just that very reason.


73, Phil W7OX
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[Elecraft] KAT500 Utility

[Brian Linn]

To Anyone!

 

Issue: KAT500 Utility will not run

Version: 1.14.4.10

Windows: 7 Pro 64 bit

Observations:

1)  It appears to correctly install

2)  When one attempts to start the utility, it shows in the Task Manager
as a process (KAT500Utility.exe *32)

3)  The application window does not show on the screen.

4)  The application is not listed in the Task Manager under
Applications.

5)  If one attempts to start the utility again, the application window
will show on the screen and a second process will show in the Task Manager
processes.

6)  The application then goes into a Not Responding state.

 

Any ideas are welcome.

 

73, 

Brian KD0HII

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[Elecraft] KAT500 / W2 Serial Connection

[Brian Linn]

Don  Elecraft:

 

I'm having difficulty connecting to either my KAT500 or W2 via a serial
cable. Is the KSXER (3.5mm to DB9-F) any different from the standard 3.5mm
to DB9-F that I already own?

 

Brian KD0HII

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Cleaner audio with Yamaha CM500, also PTT

[Brian Denley]

Jim:
Don't electrets have to be powered (voltage applied) where dynamics do not?

Brian 
KB1VBF
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 On Aug 16, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote:
 
 For example, Yamaha's own description of the CM500 called it a dynamic mic, 
 while it definitely an electret.
 
 I suspect that the mic in the Koss is an electret, simply because electrets 
 are cheaper than dynamics, and these are cheap products we're talking about. 
 :)  The challenge, of course, is to separate the good cheap from the bad 
 and not very good cheap.
 
 I've not seen the Koss products, so have no opinion as to their quality.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Bypass?

[brian]

I once did a TDR measurement of the distance between the input and 
output in bypass mode.
It comes out to be about 18.Interesting,  I would have expected 
much less.


73 de Brian/K3KO
On 8/11/2015 16:55 PM, ab2tc wrote:

Hi,

No compensation is necessary. I have a Ridge Equipment dummy load on one of
my ports and it measures 1.02 with an LP-100A in SWR in bypass mode on 10m.

AB2TC - Knut


Dick Dievendorff-4 wrote

The former.

Dick, K6KR

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On Aug 9, 2015, at 18:17, Jim Miller lt;

jim@
gt; wrote:

When the KAT500 is in Bypass are all elements really bypassed?

Or are they bypassed with compensation for the internal paths?

Is there an internal bypass calibration required?

73

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Re: [Elecraft] Features wanted

[brian]

Don,

Respectfully, this isn't one button per band.   It is two.

Also tapping MV isn't foolproof because this button has two functions.  
Tap too long and you don't get MV.


73 de Brian/K3KO



On 8/6/2015 20:23 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Chris,

My K3 is set up with a button for each band (except for 60 meters).

Check out the manual for Quick Memories (Under Memory Controls) 
Which use the first 10 memory slots.
I tap MV and then tap one of the 10 keypad buttons to go to the last 
used frequency, mode, etc. on the band related to that memory.
You can arrange the key number/band correlation in any manner you so 
desire.


In addition, I set up the M1 thru M4 buttons to navigate to my 
favorite spot in each band.  I use M1 for CW, M2 for SSB and M3 for 
data modes.
I leave M4 blank, but I can quickly add it to remember a frequency, 
mode, etc. within the band if I think I may want to return to it after 
tuning away.


For 60 meters, I have 5 memories set for channel hopping, and normally 
when I tap the MV button, that sequence of 5 channels comes up, and 
tapping MV again puts me on 60 meters with channel hopping active, so 
I can change from one channel to another with the VFO knob.  See 
Channel Hopping in the manual.


So I do have band buttons on my K3. Only rarely do I use the BAND 
up/dn buttons.


On 8/6/2015 3:40 PM, Chris Hallinan wrote:

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Greg n...@windstream.net wrote:
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Re: [Elecraft] CW reception with 3 peaks on PX3

[brian]

I've heard some South American stations using modulated CW (tone 
modulated USB).This invariably produces sidebands.


If other signals don't show it, then it is possible you caught one of 
those guys.


73 de Brian/K3KO

On 8/6/2015 11:47 AM, Myron Cherry wrote:

My P3 does that when the NB is on and the level is too high.
  
Myron


  


On 8/5/2015 11:41 PM, Gerard Elijzen wrote:


I was in contact with a CW station recently and his signal had 3 peaks on my 
PX3.

Can anyone explain. The other station was using an ICOM 7410.

Submitted this also on the KX3 Yahoo forum and had 1 reply. Thanks for that.

Thought I might post it here in the hope to get an explanation. Have never seen 
this before and it does not happen on other CW stations.


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Re: [Elecraft] SideKar vs PX3

[Brian Waterworth]

FLDigi and DM780 both have this feature as does the program I mentioned in
my earlier post PSKer for the iPAD.

regards,
Brian
VE3IBW

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Bill Frantz fra...@pwpconsult.com wrote:

 The most useful feature I have found for PSK frequency drift is the
 ability to decode the past. If you miss part of a transmission, you can go
 back and try to decode it again with a different frequency setting.

 cocoaModem for the Mac has this feature. Any signal still on the waterfall
 can be decoded. When it finishes decoding the signal on the waterfall, it
 automatically continues decoding the new parts of the signal as they come
 in. cocoaModem is the only program I know of for any computer which has
 this feature. I would love to know of other programs which include it.

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Re: [Elecraft] HP50G

[Brian Denley]

I do but still like my old 28s

Brian 
KB1VBF
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 On Aug 4, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 $73.38 at Amazon now, it appears.
 
 73, Phil W7OX
 
 On 8/4/15 10:54 AM, Charles Yahrling wrote:
 Recently sprung for a 50G after perusing vids at:
 
 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1-PpkqcSWX53vsPaZaFWgvVF26ewosH6. I
 was a bio major so had little calculus in college.  This machine makes it
 easy. In fact, all the vids at this guy's site are very understandable.
 
 Ever since K9YC prescribed tough love (e.g hit the theory books) I've
 been trying to backfill what I missed by not being an EE.
 
 Other than requiring good ambient light to be readable it seems like a good
 purchase. OfficeSupply had it on sale for $84 the day I surfed. They want
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 Anybody use a 50G?
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Re: [Elecraft] SideKar vs PX3

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FLDigi and DM780 both have this feature as does the program I mentioned in
my earlier post PSKer for the iPAD.

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Re: [Elecraft] Linked VFO's -- usage?

[brian]

I really wonder about ab ab audio in diversity.   That is both rx audio 
in both ears.  The diversity comes from the antenna.   What does the 
brain do worse in diversity with this ab ab mode of receiving?


Since you can't do it with the current K3 software, where is the A/B 
testing shows the superiority of listening to separate signals in each 
ear.   I suppose there are papers out there on this.


Unlike many,  in split mode I listen to both RX in both ears.   No 
problem.  Adjustment of audio gain optimizes this situation on a per 
station basis.


73 de Brian/K3KO


On 8/3/2015 18:00 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

Respectfully,

This is not an issue of definition. I'm sure everyone agrees that
on-purpose listening to A-A is not diversity. What they are talking about
is a situational coping mechanism when using diversity as the main
listening mode in a contest.

This occurs in diversity mode when one ear has a very weak desired signal
and the other a very loud undesired signal. My current coping mechanism for
this is to push one headphone bell forward off my ear. It would be better
to temporarily switch to both ears on desired signal, but this is *very*
clumsy using the front panel.

A discussion on how to deal with it would be helpful. Using diversity in
contesting is a newly emerging skill that is only really emerging with
common usage of two receiver K3's.

There needs to be a non-dismissive serious response to these concerns. If
there are hard technical reasons why this should be done external to the K3
it would be good to known these and move on to an external solution. It
does seem though like the straightforward treatment is somewhere inside the
K3 digital number soup.

73, Guy K2AV

On Monday, August 3, 2015, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:


Arie,

The K3 may be in diversity, but you will only hear in diversity mode when
the audio is A-b.
The diversity effect is 'in your head' as your ears naturally pick up the
differences between the two receivers and your brain figures out which is
the best to hear.

When you have the audio set to A-A or b-b, you are hearing the audio from
only one receiver, and by definition, that is not diversity reception.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/3/2015 10:30 AM, Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote:


Don,

to set things up, I use a macro programmed in the F12-key in N1MM to copy
the freq/mode/BW  From A to B,  switch on the SubRx, set audio to A-b
listening and Link the VFO's. Switching of the audio is done in F9-F10-11
to A-b, A-A, or b-b respectively.

Of course I would like that I could switch the audio when the K3 is in
diversity mode, but That cannot be done in current Firmware. In diversity
the audio is fixed to A-b.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX by mode only?

[brian]

Another workaround is to learn to use VOX on phone.
I'm not coordinated enough to operate either a foot switch or mike 
button and talk.  VOX to the rescue.

73 de Brian/K3KO
On 8/2/2015 23:26 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote:

Been chasing the same enhancement for a long time. I don't think it's gonna 
happen. The workaround is that fldigi and Cocoamodem can key the rig. Dunno 
about Win programs.

73, Mike NF4L



On Aug 2, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Dan Atchison via Elecraft 
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I'd like to use VOX on digital modes, but never on phone and I see no way to set it up 
by mode such that the gain can be set to a certain value on phone (000), but 
higher on digital modes.  Am I correct?  Yes, I know I can turn it on and off manually.
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[Elecraft] Selecting Antennas via Band Decoder

[Brian F. Wruble]

My K3 is connected to a TopTen Band Aide band decoder.  It works great
for selecting antennas based on the band.

I would like to be able to select a different antenna depending on *where*
in the band I am operating.

 To be specific,

If I am operating at 3500-3600, I want to select a dipole tuned to the
bottom of the 80 meter band.  It needs to tell the TopTen to select 80
meters, which is what it does now.

If I am operating in the range 3601-4000, I want the TopTen to be told to
select a different dipole, one tuned to 3800.  The K3 needs to tell the
TopTen to select some unused band which I can then rig to select the relay
for the dipole tuned to 3800.

Is there a way to set up the K3 to do this?

I have been able to accomplish this by selecting different antenna outputs
at the KAT500, but what I really need is a way to tell the TopTen to select
different relays at the base of my tower.  Changing antenna outputs at the
KAT500  requires a separate cable run to the tower.


I am sure this must have been covered at one time, but I can't find the
right thread.

TNX and

73 de Brian W3BW


*Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
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Re: [Elecraft] Selecting Antennas via Band Decoder

[Brian F Wruble]

Thanks. I need it to be auto, because I operate remotely much of the time. 

Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A. 
Sent from my iPad Air 2

 On Aug 1, 2015, at 8:24 PM, Rick Tavan rta...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 BandAide is pretty versatile itself. You can use position B to select an 
 alternative 80M antenna. It's manual and requires some external steering but 
 you probably don't switch between cw and Ssb all that often.
 
 Rick
 
 --
 Rick Tavan
 iPhone
 
 On Aug 1, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Brian F. Wruble bwru...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 My K3 is connected to a TopTen Band Aide band decoder.  It works great
 for selecting antennas based on the band.
 
 I would like to be able to select a different antenna depending on *where*
 in the band I am operating.
 
To be specific,
 
 If I am operating at 3500-3600, I want to select a dipole tuned to the
 bottom of the 80 meter band.  It needs to tell the TopTen to select 80
 meters, which is what it does now.
 
 If I am operating in the range 3601-4000, I want the TopTen to be told to
 select a different dipole, one tuned to 3800.  The K3 needs to tell the
 TopTen to select some unused band which I can then rig to select the relay
 for the dipole tuned to 3800.
 
 Is there a way to set up the K3 to do this?
 
 I have been able to accomplish this by selecting different antenna outputs
 at the KAT500, but what I really need is a way to tell the TopTen to select
 different relays at the base of my tower.  Changing antenna outputs at the
 KAT500  requires a separate cable run to the tower.
 
 
 I am sure this must have been covered at one time, but I can't find the
 right thread.
 
 TNX and
 
 73 de Brian W3BW
 
 
 *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
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Re: [Elecraft] SideKar vs PX3

[brian]

It seems this dilemma can be solved by something like a 10 screen 
WINDOWs laptop.  You get display, keyboard, the ability to run FLDIGI.   
They probably run on batteries as long as the rig et al. A few years ago 
I had an ACER aspire 1 (?).   It ran everything I tried including sound 
card stuff.


73 de Brian/K3KO
On 7/30/2015 12:08 PM, steve wrote:

Brian,
Thank you for the comments.
I do use fldigi.
Yes, PSK31 is difficult to tune and partly because of the lack of AFC 
in the kX3, as you reminded me (why... KX3 tuning is difficult).
The PX3 does make it easier to tune provided the sending station isn't 
drifting.

RTTY seems easier to tune - I guess because of its wider bandwidth.
I think because I want portable PSK31/RTTY to be fun (not 
frustrating), I need to think about using Fldigi portable with a 
small/mini laptop (solid state disk).
I guess I will also think more about how I am going to do the little 
bit of CW as the decoder works well (not great).  I am going to give 
CW via KX3 decoder a try this weekend with the NAQP.
Yes, I think even with the HCT/SideKar you need to save the call.   It 
does have a memory location to allow the call to be sent as part of a 
macro.
I don't see anything in the manual about logging using the memory 
location to fill the log callsign...  I'll ask/look.


thank you for your thought provoking input.  73, steve WB3LGC


On 29-Jul-15 6:10 PM, Brian Waterworth wrote:

Warning - long response

One thing I have found on my quest to have a portable station is a 
portable

computer, screen, and keyboard.  My premise is that the kx3 may not be
ready for a complete psk31 solution with either the px3 or the sidekar.
I'll come back to this quest in a moment.

At present, it doesn't seem that the kx3 applies afc to incoming digital
transmissions, like psk31.  ...  My premise is that unless the kx3 
has afc, using the

internal psk decoder is for emergency purposes and having some fun.  ...



...  Search and pounce is
much harder to do when you have to take the time to remember a call sign
and type it into another field while the receive window is scrolling.
Fldigi and dm780 will allow a quick click of the mouse and the call 
sign is

ready to be used in any macro that references this field.

Now let's turn to the question about the USB port on the px3 and the
connection of a keyboard.  I contend that unless the kx3 adds more psk
features like those of the mainstream programs found on various 
platforms,
the addition of a keyboard for psk qso's as decoded by the kx3 may 
not be

useful.  I actually don't like my premise as I was excited too about the
possibility of a keyboard attached to thw px3.  But what would I use it
for?  The aforementioned usability concerns and lack of afc in the kx3
doesn't provide me with the utility I thought I was going to get from 
the
kx3/px3 combo.  If there is another use for a keyboard that I have 
missed,

I would love to hear it.

...

...

*I think even the sidekar may not meet your digital needs. I am sure 
the sidekar does more and my apologies to the designers if I have 
under represented it's capabilites. I saw the sidekar at Dayton in 
2014 and wondered why I would need it over a px3, especially with the 
px3 firmware upgrade that provided two lines of decode text on the 
px3 screen. The sidekar is not a general purpose computer and 
therefore is limited in its usability. How would you capture a call 
sign from the receive window to respond to a cq? Where would you 
store this call sign in either the kx3 or the sidekar? Usability and 
adaptability during digital qsos is necessary in order to keep up 
with those hams that are working in a much more productive environment.*


I am sure there are others who have different setups and experiences to
mine.  I am interested to hear about them as is Steve.

Regards
Brian
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Re: [Elecraft] SideKar vs PX3 More

[brian]

It seems this dilemma can be solved by something like a 10 screen 
WINDOWs laptop.  You get display, keyboard, the ability to run FLDIGI.   
They probably run on batteries as long as the rig et al. A few years ago 
I had an ACER aspire 1 (?).   It ran everything I tried including sound 
card stuff.


Here is one for about $125.

http://www.amazon.com/Acer-AOA150-1447-8-9-Inch-Processor-Sapphire/dp/B001EYV9TM

73 de Brian/K3KO


On 7/30/2015 12:08 PM, steve wrote:

Brian,
Thank you for the comments.
I do use fldigi.
Yes, PSK31 is difficult to tune and partly because of the lack of AFC 
in the kX3, as you reminded me (why... KX3 tuning is difficult).
The PX3 does make it easier to tune provided the sending station isn't 
drifting.

RTTY seems easier to tune - I guess because of its wider bandwidth.
I think because I want portable PSK31/RTTY to be fun (not 
frustrating), I need to think about using Fldigi portable with a 
small/mini laptop (solid state disk).
I guess I will also think more about how I am going to do the little 
bit of CW as the decoder works well (not great).  I am going to give 
CW via KX3 decoder a try this weekend with the NAQP.
Yes, I think even with the HCT/SideKar you need to save the call.   It 
does have a memory location to allow the call to be sent as part of a 
macro.
I don't see anything in the manual about logging using the memory 
location to fill the log callsign...  I'll ask/look.


thank you for your thought provoking input.  73, steve WB3LGC


On 29-Jul-15 6:10 PM, Brian Waterworth wrote:

Warning - long response

One thing I have found on my quest to have a portable station is a 
portable

computer, screen, and keyboard.  My premise is that the kx3 may not be
ready for a complete psk31 solution with either the px3 or the sidekar.
I'll come back to this quest in a moment.

At present, it doesn't seem that the kx3 applies afc to incoming digital
transmissions, like psk31.  ...  My premise is that unless the kx3 
has afc, using the

internal psk decoder is for emergency purposes and having some fun.  ...



...  Search and pounce is
much harder to do when you have to take the time to remember a call sign
and type it into another field while the receive window is scrolling.
Fldigi and dm780 will allow a quick click of the mouse and the call 
sign is

ready to be used in any macro that references this field.

Now let's turn to the question about the USB port on the px3 and the
connection of a keyboard.  I contend that unless the kx3 adds more psk
features like those of the mainstream programs found on various 
platforms,
the addition of a keyboard for psk qso's as decoded by the kx3 may 
not be

useful.  I actually don't like my premise as I was excited too about the
possibility of a keyboard attached to thw px3.  But what would I use it
for?  The aforementioned usability concerns and lack of afc in the kx3
doesn't provide me with the utility I thought I was going to get from 
the
kx3/px3 combo.  If there is another use for a keyboard that I have 
missed,

I would love to hear it.

...

...

*I think even the sidekar may not meet your digital needs. I am sure 
the sidekar does more and my apologies to the designers if I have 
under represented it's capabilites. I saw the sidekar at Dayton in 
2014 and wondered why I would need it over a px3, especially with the 
px3 firmware upgrade that provided two lines of decode text on the 
px3 screen. The sidekar is not a general purpose computer and 
therefore is limited in its usability. How would you capture a call 
sign from the receive window to respond to a cq? Where would you 
store this call sign in either the kx3 or the sidekar? Usability and 
adaptability during digital qsos is necessary in order to keep up 
with those hams that are working in a much more productive environment.*


I am sure there are others who have different setups and experiences to
mine.  I am interested to hear about them as is Steve.

Regards
Brian
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Re: [Elecraft] SideKar vs PX3

[Brian Waterworth]

 that provided two lines of decode text on the px3 screen.  The
sidekar is not a general purpose computer and therefore is limited in its
usability.  How would you capture a call sign from the receive window to
respond to a cq?  Where would you store this call sign in either the kx3 or
the sidekar?  Usability and adaptability during digital qsos is necessary
in order to keep up with those hams that are working in a much more
productive environment.

I am sure there are others who have different setups and experiences to
mine.  I am interested to hear about them as is Steve.

Regards
Brian
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 KX3 Memory Editing Utility (revisited yet again)

[brian]

I wonder how you guys with 100 programmed memories manage to remember 
what is in what memory?
Personally if the number gets to be greater than 5,  I have no clue. It 
becomes trial and error.


73 de Brian/K3KO
On 7/26/2015 23:47 PM, Nr4c wrote:

I'd like to see a feature to save User settings to a file. Only those config 
items that define the user preferences, not calibration stuff. This would allow an owner 
of several K3 radios to set them up alike.

Also two TX EQ settings; one for front and one for rear.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



On Jul 26, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com wrote:

I have followed previous discussions on the memory editor issues (no support 
for Mac, etc.) but I missed the answer to the big, big question.

The big question is:  why is it that the existing Elecraft supported K3 and KX3 
utilities do not include a memory editing page built in and supported as a 
mainline feature.

Seems to be a no-brainer to me.  I would expect Eric or Wayne to say “Yah, we 
need that in our utility programs, let’s do it”.

73, phil, K7PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] DB9 connectors

[brian]

A docking station would provide and RS232 with screw jacks, parallel 
port and lots more connectors.
Docking stations are pretty nice to have for non-portable use. Just 
extract the laptop when you need it to go.  No unplugging of cables.


73 de Brian/K3KO
On 7/25/2015 15:21 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

On Sat,7/25/2015 7:23 AM, ab2tc wrote:

Hmm, can you get your money back for that laptop? Seems to me that your
RS232 port is next to useless.


I agree -- I'm looking online, and it appears that the connector is 
close to being  non-functional.


Even if you could find a mating connector, unbolted DB9's fall out 
very easily.


I don't agree with that -- I've used DB9s fully mated without 
retaining screws with no problems.


73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

[brian]

This filter was my secret weapon when the going got tough-- especially 
on 160/80/40 M during contests.   Wonder if it will make a comeback.   
The 250 Hz filter is really something like 350 Hz and really too wide at 
times.


73 de Brian/K3KO
On 7/25/2015 0:08 AM, Scott Manthe wrote:
I noticed this as well. Does anyone know why Elecraft has stopped 
selling them? I was looking to put one in my sub-rx.

(Sorry I can't help you with your request, Dan)

73,
Scott N9AA

On 7/24/15 7:18 PM, Dan Atchison via Elecraft wrote:
Am looking for a K3, 200 Hz 5-pole filter since Elecraft no longer 
sells them.  Anyone out there have a spare?


73,
Dan - N3ND
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Re: [Elecraft] QRP signals from Pathfinder probe (off topic)

[Brian Moran via Elecraft]

Here's another paper that details the RF side of things. They needed an 
Ultra-Stable Oscillator, as well :-)
http://www.boulder.swri.edu/~tcase/NH%20RF%20Telecom%20Sys%20ID1369%20FINAL_Deboy.pdf
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Re: [Elecraft] QRP signals from Pathfinder probe (off topic)

[brian]

It would seem that the DX record is held by the Voygers which long ago 
left the solar system.
I don't know their power but they still check in from way beyond 
Pluto.   So NewHorizons is DX but not real DX YET.


73 de Brian/K3KO
On 7/16/2015 18:31 PM, Scott Simpson wrote:

some discussion including calculation of losses around 147db here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/3d93en/the_radio_signal_from_the_new_horizons_spacecraft/




scott
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On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:10 PM, a...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


Heard last night on  Nova program that the transmitter on the Pathfinder
Pluto probe was 10 watts.  Anyone have a clue as to the signal path loss at
3 billion miles and what levels the deep space dish receiving networks are
dealing with?   Incredible that the data stream can be extracted from the
noise.
Mike  AC5P
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Re: [Elecraft] QRP signals from Pathfinder probe (off topic)

[Brian D]

Voyager is still going strong many times further away than Pluto, 315w to a
3.7m dish. from over 19 billion KM.


a...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Heard last night on  Nova program that the transmitter on the Pathfinder
 Pluto probe was 10 watts.  Anyone have a clue as to the signal path loss
 at 3 billion miles and what levels the deep space dish receiving networks
 are dealing with?   Incredible that the data stream can be extracted from
 the noise. Mike  AC5P
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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Magic of Radio

[Brian Denley]

That was great!  Thanks for sharing.

Brian 
KB1VBF
Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 9, 2015, at 4:17 AM, Doug Turnbull turnb...@net1.ie wrote:
 
 Dear OMs and Yls,
 
  This one was sent me by Barry, W5GN.   I think it portrays some of the
 magic which brought many of us into Ham Radio.  You might enjoy the ninety
 seconds it takes to watch.
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxU1ZhINaHk
 
 
 
  73 Doug EI2CN
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Windows 8.1 tablet power

[brian]

Why have such seemingly simple things gotten so hard?
Like nobody ever figured one would want to use and charge a device at 
the same time?

This capability should be part of the tablet.

I'd comment on how hard it is to key a radio via a computer these days 
but won't.


73 de Brian/K3KO
On 7/8/2015 15:28 PM, John Payne wrote:
I use a Dell Venue 8 Pro and like many new tablets and phones it uses 
USB On The Go for connectivity.  Dell sells this:


http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=usl=ens=bsdcs=04sku=470-ABES#Overview 



and it allows what you need.  USB OTG negotiates charging and data 
according to a set of rules which I have not figured out yet, need to 
research that sometime! No connection to Dell other than a satisfied 
user.  I'm sure this is available other places as well.


73,

John Payne W4CWZ

On 7/7/2015 10:55 AM, Mark N2QT via Elecraft wrote:
I bought a win 8.1 (not RT) tablet from Cowboom for $59, hoping to 
interface it using its
micro USB port.  However the USB port is the only way to provide 
power to the thing,
and battery life is such I'd like to leave it on charge while 
operating, while not losing the

USB port data functionality.

The unit is sold by Best Buy under the Unbranded name.

Anyone have luck powering such a tablet without losing the USB data 
capability?


Mark. N2QT
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Re: [Elecraft] FS: Factory built KX3 with Accessories

[Brian Sheets]

Both the KX3 and the IC-7000 have been sold. Thanks for playing :)

B


On 6/30/15, 6:54 AM, Brian Sheets bri...@fl240.com wrote:

I need to fund the downpayment on a new (to me) vehicle so the KX3 has to
go.

Factory Built Serial Number 1366
Excellent Condition Current Firmware
Non-Smoker owned, no scratches dents or otherwise
Gem products side KX endplates  dust cover (original end pieces included
too)
Think Tank padded lens case to keep it safe

All original boxes and manual

All currently available options (except 2M module)
KX3-PCKT Accessory Cable Set
USB Cable
KXAT3 ATU for the KX3
KXBC3 Internal NiMH Charger and RTC
Eneloop NiMH AA batteries
KXFL3 Dual-Passband Roofing Filter
KXPD3 Paddle with KXPD3 Upgrade Kit (not installed)
MH3 Hand Mic
XG3 Signal Generator
pignology piglet and serial cable allows wireless control from iPad or
Android
Pro Audio Engineering Heat sink (no paint removed)

This has been thermal calibrated using the XG3

I'd like to get $1400 + shipping, double boxed and insured. Paypal only.

I also have a Icom IC-7000 mobile package with Tarheel II and Tune
Controller if anyone is interested.

Brian KA7KDX





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[Elecraft] FS: Factory built KX3 with Accessories

[Brian Sheets]

I need to fund the downpayment on a new (to me) vehicle so the KX3 has to go.

Factory Built Serial Number 1366
Excellent Condition Current Firmware
Non-Smoker owned, no scratches dents or otherwise
Gem products side KX endplates  dust cover (original end pieces included too)
Think Tank padded lens case to keep it safe

All original boxes and manual

All currently available options (except 2M module)
KX3-PCKT Accessory Cable Set
USB Cable
KXAT3 ATU for the KX3
KXBC3 Internal NiMH Charger and RTC
Eneloop NiMH AA batteries
KXFL3 Dual-Passband Roofing Filter
KXPD3 Paddle with KXPD3 Upgrade Kit (not installed)
MH3 Hand Mic
XG3 Signal Generator
pignology piglet and serial cable allows wireless control from iPad or Android
Pro Audio Engineering Heat sink (no paint removed)

This has been thermal calibrated using the XG3

I'd like to get $1400 + shipping, double boxed and insured. Paypal only.

I also have a Icom IC-7000 mobile package with Tarheel II and Tune Controller 
if anyone is interested.

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Re: [Elecraft] SMT handling tip

[Brian Hunt]

The company is Shesto in the UK. There is no USA distributer listed on their 
website. Hobby Lobby may have something similar?  There's a vacuum version 
listed on Amazon. Not the same company tho. 

73,
Brian, K0DTJ 

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Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

[Brian Hunt]

i installed Dimension 4 (http://www.thinkman.com/dimension4/) a few 
months ago and it has been great.  I shutdown my Win7 PC when not in 
use.  As soon as it comes back up the time is synced to NIST via any 
number of internet time servers which it rotates through.  The 
correction history shows time is kept to within +/- half second.  I set 
it up to work JT65 modes.  YMMV.


Brian, K0DTJ

On 6/26/2015 11:03 AM, Gary Smith wrote:

I've not been able to get my windows
computer to automatically update for a
long time now and I've tried everything I
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Re: [Elecraft] shipping costs via USPO Express mail intern.

[Brian]

I have used USPS to ship to UK, EU, and AUS on several occasions and it 
all went well.  Just keep in mind that local postal and/or customs may 
hold the item for a few days before even notifying the recipient that it 
has arrived.


Some places do not charge the recipient a VAT on Amateur Radio 
gear...it's a good idea to check before sending.


72 de KB9BVN


On 6/24/2015 10:19 AM, ddillenbur...@web.de wrote:

Hi all -
just wondering if anybody here has had any experience yet with shipping
Elecraft gear to EU / Germany via USPO services ( i.e.Express Mail Internat.)?
Costs seem rather favourable compared to UPS rates...time for me wouldn't be
a major factor.
Thanks for sharing your ideas, 73!
(answer off list if you prefer)
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Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards

[Brian Hemmis]

David, Your friend states there are 2 dozen birdies on 6 meters with the 
antenna DISCONNECTED. This tells me nothing. Please tell him to connect a 
RESONANT 6 meter antenna to the radio then tell me how many birdies he hears.
73, Brian K3USC


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 David,
 
 When we designed the K3S, we very carefully evaluated internally generated 
 spurs on all bands. We found that the KSYN3 and KSYN3A had roughly the same 
 number. This is consistent with both being high-level signal sources; you 
 can't get rid of spurs entirely. All but a very few are masked by band noise, 
 as well. 
 
 6 meters was no exception. Both the old and new synths show some spurs on 
 this band, and we adjusted PLL divider ratios, etc., to minimize them. But 
 the new synth -- in our tests -- doesn't have any more than the old. I use a 
 pair of the new synths in my lab K3S, as well as the KXV3B, which includes 
 premamp 2 (-145 dB MDS). I've had no problem with spurs on 6 meters. 
 
 In some cases, it could come down to how the cables are oriented. Make sure 
 you're orienting the cables as described in the manual, and if you feel that 
 you have excessive spurs, email customer support. If we come up with any 
 improved cable routing, we'll post to the list.
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 
 On Jun 23, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Dave G3WGN M6O da...@aslinvc.com wrote:
 
 Is there anyone out there yet who has done a detailed study of 6m birdies 
 with the new synth and either external or internal preamp?  A good friend 
 with an early K3 is reluctant to upgrade to K3S as he hears a couple of 
 dozen birdies on 6m with antenna disconnected.
 So how has this aspect of K3 performance evolved from early K3 (his is S/N 
 sub-100) to the K3S?
 73
 David G3WGN  M6O
 Member of the 6Gs team at E6GG in September 2015 
 www.e6gg.comhttp://www.e6gg.com
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[Elecraft] K3S config file

[brian]

Can one use a config file from a K3 as a starting point in configuring a 
K3s?   Years of tinkering with a K3 resulted in a configuration I 
wouldn't want to loose.


73 de Brian/K3KO
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[Elecraft] K3 - TX Gain Calibration Issue

[Brian Linn]

All:

 

When attempting to run the TX Gain Calibration with the latest K3 utility,
post installing the latest firmware, the message back is that the KPA3 and
PA PWR settings are incorrect and must be set a certain way in order for it
to run. The problem is that the settings are exactly as the message states
they should be. (I ended up running the calibration manually.)

 

Has anyone seen this oddity?

 

Brian KD0HII

 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Daisy chaining Macros

[Brian Waterworth]

Hi Joshua

You have to assign the alternate macro to the pf1 key at the end of the
first macro.

Add to the end of Macro 1: MN110;SWT27;SWH18;MN255;
Add to the end of Macro 2: MN110;SWT19;SWH18;MN255;

MN is to get into the menus.  110 is for the Macro settings.  Swt is to tap
the 2 key (27) (or the 1 key (19)), then hold the PF1 key (SWH18).  Lastly,
exit the menu (mn255).

Regards
Brian
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Re: [Elecraft] CQ WPX and the KSYN3A board?

[brian]

Phil,
You mean the new S line   OOPS that's already taken.   It would have 
to the the KS line.


73 de Brian/K3KO

On 6/4/2015 23:26 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:

Not to worry, Wayne. You're no longer selling K3s but K3Ss :-)

73, Phil W7OX

On 6/4/15 2:58 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO k2vco@gmail.com wrote:


...I found myself working closer than ever to strong signals.

For what it's worth, there also weren't as many clickers out there 
as in the past. That's progress.

They're using K3s, I quipped, clearly guilty of brazen self-promotion.

Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[Brian Sheets]

YahŠ it sucks. I knew when I moved to an apartment that staying on HF was
going to be a challenge, but I was not prepared for the breaker issue. I
found that with my kx3 and a wonderwand wonder loop on my kitchen table,
that with 10 watts I can do some jt65 and wspr on 20m without popping the
breakers. But my success has been limited and not worthwhile.

I¹ve been a remotehamradio user for almost a year now, but I don¹t have
much interest in ssb or cw these days. Remotehamradio does have a beta
test going on for ³logging² software such as ham radio deluxe. I¹ve tried
jt65 over it, but haven¹t had consistent results and get disconnected or
have HRD lock up. I¹ve been avoiding buying a K3/0 for some time, just
because I didn¹t want to spend the money on a ³non radio² device. But if
I¹m going to get back on jt65, I think its my best option.

Brian
KA7KDX

On 5/30/15, 2:13 PM, ab2tc ab...@arrl.net wrote:

Hi,

Sorry, I don't have a K3/0, but your problem certainly caught my
interest. I
had never heard of AFCI breakers before, but a quick Google search got me
quickly reeducated and my eyes glazed over. Wow, these RF prone devices
have
been mandatory since 1999! Another federal mandate to protect people
against
their own stupidity (not checking their power cords for fraying and other
damage).

AB2TC - Knut


KA7KDX wrote
 Does anyone have K3/0 they want to part with? I'm stuck in apartment,
I've
 tried everything from wires to magnetic loops. My problem is not getting
 out, its AFCI breakers. Any rf out and they pop (including the
apartments
 around me.)
 
 So if anyone has one they want to part with, let me know
 
 Brian
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[Brian Sheets]

I hope to not live in an apartment that long :)

On 5/30/15, 4:03 PM, G4GNX g4...@theatreorgans.co.uk wrote:

Fortunately these devices are not mandated in the UK.

Whilst the prevention of fires is laudable, ISTM that the regulators have
jumped the gun and insisted on the use of a device that is still under
development.

Reading the WIKI on AFCI breakers, where lightning nuisance trips occur,
they are under-developed devices of the devil!

Perhaps it's time that litigation took place, along the lines of: It was
late at night and there was an electrical storm which caused an AFCI to
trip, which resulted in the lights failing. My aging mother fell down the
stairs in the dark and broke her collar bone, for which I hold you fully
responsible!!!

It would seem that it is still not possible to fix 'stupid'!

73,

Alan. G4GNX

-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 10:01 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

I recall reading something in an ARRL publication or newsletter that at
least one manufacturer of AFCI breakers has addressed and corrected the
problem of RF susceptibility.  That company is Eaton.

It is a bummer that consumers must suffer from products that do not have
sufficient RF immunity.  If all manufacturers would 'step up to the
plate' and accept that we live in a world where RF is present, often in
strong fields, we would not have a problem.  Hams are not the only cause
of RF problems - think of the problems encountered by those who reside
near broadcast stations.  RF fields are emitted by police, fire and
other emergency service transmitters.
IMHO, more manufacturers must be willing to design products that can
withstand reasonable RF fields.  Of course, most consumers do not
understand that, and the ham is to blame.  There was a parallel back
in the 1950s and 1960s with television interference when many TVs were
designed with front ends and IF chains that would pick up RF on most any
frequency, much to the consumer's dismay and blame placed on the ham,
even if his transmissions were clean of harmonics.
It just about drove operation on 15 meters off the air because many TV
sets used a 21 MHz IF that was 'wide open' for interference.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/30/2015 4:13 PM, ab2tc wrote:
 Hi,

 Sorry, I don't have a K3/0, but your problem certainly caught my
interest. 
 I
 had never heard of AFCI breakers before, but a quick Google search got
me
 quickly reeducated and my eyes glazed over. Wow, these RF prone devices
 have
 been mandatory since 1999!

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[Elecraft] K2/100 twins configuration

[Brian Denley]

How does the K2 get it's power when only the high current supply is connected?  
I ask because sometimes my K2 doesn't - unless I connect a supply to the K2 
directly.  Is it through the KIO2?
I also notice that when the power is lower the 11 watts, the SWR lights on my 
KAT100 do not light - but they do light when the power is 11 watts or higher.  
In both cases I can hear the KAT109 relays cranking away.

Thanks
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Re: [Elecraft] Test

[Brian R. Malone]

QSL have a nice weekend. 
Brian

W2BRM
NY




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 This is just a test I’m having trouble posting. I hope I’ve fixed it.  Thank 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY Message Button Diddles

[Brian F. Wruble]

I find briefly touching the SUB button terminates the extra 4 seconds.
Not sure why.

73 de Brian W3BW


*Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.






On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Bill Lewis w...@charter.net wrote:

 Any info on eliminating the 4 second span of diddles present at the end of
 transmission when using a message push button and RTTY would be
 appreciates.


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[Elecraft] KPA-100 never mind

[Brian Denley]

Problem solved.  The K2 tune mode was limiting me to 20 watts (embarrassed).  
Once past that I get high power like I expected.

Thanks anyway!

Brian Denley
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Re: [Elecraft] Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

[Brian]

Eric...that's the most ridiculous thing I've read today.   How is it the 
KX3 owners fault at all?  Please, explain.


On 5/18/2015 1:06 PM, EricJ wrote:

If someone steals your radio, the thief is only partially to blame.

Eric
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[Elecraft] QRPizza

[Brian -]

I prefer a QRP crust with QRO cheese and veggies.

It's a maximum enjoyment thing.



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[Elecraft] LOTW System problems?

[Brian F. Wruble]

Hi guys,

I have been having trouble logging into my LOTW account.  It started last
night, then I got in this morning, now I can't get in again.

Have others noticed this?  Is there an ARRL bulletin that covers these
outages?

Thanks.  73 de Brian W3BW

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Re: [Elecraft] New K2 build.

[Brian Denley]

You should have soldered them in 'as is'.

Brian Denley
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 On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Thomas Skinner tom.n...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 As I prepare to build my second k2, my mind drifts back to the hours I spent 
 with the little ceramic caps.
 
 They all had the bonding material over flowing the lead shoulders.  I spent 
 hours cleaning that hardened material off the leads before soldering them in 
 place.
 
 The QUESTION:
 
 Did I need to remove the extra material or should I just have dropped them in 
 and made sure they got soldered properly?
 
 Tia, 
 
 Tom, ng3v
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Repair policy for DOA factory assembled products?

[Brian]

Thanks Joe...I thought it was a good question.

73 de KB9BVN


On 4/21/2015 5:27 PM, Joe Marler wrote:

My question is now answered. Although the policy is not stated anywhere,
the general Elecraft practice is to expedite repairs on factory assembled
new products which are DOA. This is a reasonable question because each
manufacturer or retailer has their own policies about how returns  repairs
are handled in general vs how they are handled for defective merchandise.

Re whether asking questions about Elecraft policies is a valid topic, the
list guidelines clearly state: 6a. Please post your experiencescrazy
ideas...complaints etc. (yes - we do want to hear them). I wasn't even
complaining, just asking a question, which I'm glad is now answered.

  Joe, KQ1Q

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[Elecraft] KPA 500 and FTDX 3000

[Brian R. Malone]

 
 
 I hope to get my new KPA 500 on Monday. Anyone that is using this and the 
 FTDX 3000 care to share their hook up experience etc?
 
 Brian
 W2BRM
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[Elecraft] KPA 500 and FTDX 3000

[Brian R. Malone]

Hello. 
 I hope to get my new KPA 500 on Monday. Anyone that is using this and the 
 FTDX 3000 care to share their hook up experience etc?
 
 Brian
 W2BRM
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Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Package Shipped to You

[Brian Denley]

What is it

Brian 
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 John Seney
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Re: [Elecraft] 50 Ohm Load - source?

[Brian]

Good stuff Rick.  I bought and built the OHR-100RFL because it was 
priced reasonable, it was 100W rated, and I figured with all my QRP rigs 
it would last my ancestors a couple dozen lifetimes.  I have a couple 
other 20W homebrew loads around here too...can never find one when I 
need it though...the 100RFL sits in a handsome cabinet on my bench where 
is it handy and usable all the time.


No sir...can't beat a good dummy load.

On 3/30/2015 7:17 PM, Rick Dettinger wrote:

Yes, you are.
Dummy loads are not fun, like nice radios.
When I built a Heathkit HW100, 45 years ago, I needed a dummy load to align the 
transmitter section.
Not having one, and having just spent all my discretionary funds on the radio, 
I used a pencil lead to make a resistor element.
I had to experiment with different drafting pencils to find the correct 
resistance.  I carefully removed the wood with a razor blade, and attached clip 
leads at the points that gave me 50 ohms.  I dunked the result in a container 
of motor oil (probably not the best choice), and finished the alignment.  It 
worked well and was a one shot deal.
Later, following instructions in a ham radio magazine, I built a dummy load 
using two copper disks and 10 resistors.  This was also installed in a quart 
can filled with oil of some kind.  I put the dummy load under my shack and ran 
coax up to my rigs.  Also worked well.
Now, I use an Elecraft 20 watt load, and have used it for short periods of time 
at higher power to make quick measurements.  This included the alignment work 
on my K3/100.

73,
Rick Dettinger  K7MW










On Mar 30, 2015, at 2:43 PM, Dave Baxter wrote:


I often wonder about people who will buy expensive (but excellent) radio's,
then baulk at spending a few bucks, quid's or ?, on basic test kit like a
half decent dummy load!

Am I missing something?

Dave G0WBX.

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 and KAT100 in EC2 - is replacement of L1 on AUX2 necessary?

[Brian Denley]

Ken and Don:
I am interested in this as well.  My KAT100 is complete in the EC-2 and I just 
started the KPA100 build today.  I'm sure I have a few spare toroid cores 
around here.  How do I tell if they are the ones specified by Don?

Brian 
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 On Mar 26, 2015, at 7:57 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 
 Ken,
 
 Although *supposedly* the inductor should be able to supply the needed 
 current, I recommend replacing it with a toroid.
 Especially if the inductor is of the older miniature type.
 12 turns on a FT25-43 or FT37-43 core will work nicely.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 3/26/2015 1:41 AM, Kenneth Talbott wrote:
 I just completed moving my KPA100 and KAT100 into the EC2 enclosure.  I am
 really pleased with the result!  Spring is here!  All I have to do is
 disconnect 2 cables from my K2/10 with KAT2 and hook up the camper for QRP
 fun in the woods of Virginia.  Can someone advise me whether or not it is
 necessary to replace L1 (the 15-mH inductor on AUX2 board)?  Some posts
 suggest that its current capacity is inadequate to power the digital
 subsystem of the KPA100/KAT100.  I do provide DC power to the K2/10 and
 KAT100 through their coaxial DC connectors.  Thanks!
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Don't have a 50W dummy load

[Brian -]

I think I have a roll of 12 Ohm 2w resistors at home.  If you use 9 in
series and 8 in series, then connect those two stacks in parallel, you will
get 50.8 ohms, and I think about 20w of power handling...not sure on the
power...if someone wants to run that through the Cray and get the exact
number, I'd be thrilled to know it.

I will give away a set of 17 resistors to anyone that mails me a postage
paid, 4 by 6 inch, padded envelope.  I think two stamps will do it...maybe
three if you are having doubts.  I have used these in homebrew dummy loads
and crammed it in a Altoids tinyou need to supply a connector and the
Altoids tin.

My address is good on QRZ...

BUT WAIT UNTIL I GET HOME TONIGHT TO MAKE SURE I STILL HAVE THEM.  The
spool had about 400 on it...so I hope I have it.  I'll post again tonight.

73 de KB9BVN
Brian Murrey


On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Richard Solomon w1...@earthlink.net
wrote:

 You can often find Dummy loads at your local Ham Flea. I found two 50 Watt
 Birds
 for $10 each at the last one.

 73, Dick, W1KSZ


 On 3/26/2015 11:15 AM, Fred Jensen wrote:

 Mine works fine at 220, VSWR on 440 is about 1.3:1 and rising fast.  On
 the QRP one I made, I left about 1 leads on the resistors, I had a small
 brass tube to connect the center conductor down to the bottom plate and I
 didn't want to cut it.  VSWR on 6 meters is 1.6:1.

 73,

 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
 - www.cqp.org

 On 3/25/2015 8:13 PM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:

 Yes, but the inductances are all in parallel.  I built a decent dummy
 load out of 24, 1200 Ohm, 10 watt wire wound resistors all in parallel
 between two squares of fiberglass PC board.  The SWR was only about
 1.2:1 on 15 Meters and about 1.5:1 on 10 meters.   Admittedly, not a
 perfect load, but certainly adequate for the low bands just to soak up
 some RF.

 73, Charlie k3ICH


 If you're going to use the paralleled metal film resistor construction
 method, be sure to keep the resistor leads short and spaced them from
 each other.  Lead inductance will start to become a factor on 6 m and
 up.  I built mine with 40 2K 2W resistors and it works find at 100W if
 used intermittently.  It's air cooled.  Don't know how much putting it
 in oil would improve the dissipation.


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Re: [Elecraft] Don't have a 50W dummy load

[Brian -]

Our local radio club built the RFL-100 as a soldering training project and
a kit building exercise.   Everyone loved the instrument they had when all
done.  OHR is hard to beat, their kits are always well documented and easy
to understand.



On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 8:09 AM, Mike Harris mike.har...@horizon.co.fk
wrote:

 I have both the RFL-100 and the WM-2 from my K2 building days.  They work
 very well together with the Elecraft CP1 coupler for the use at the 100W
 level.

 I've always found that analogue instruments are better than digital when
 it comes to adjusting the likes of filter tuning.  Small changes are much
 easier to see with a meter needle moving rather than digits changing.

 Regards,

 Mike VP8NO

 On 24/03/2015 18:39, Brian wrote:

 Excellent advice Don.  I bought a 100w dummy load kit from OHR. It's
 called the RFL-100 and it's about $40, comes in a very nice cabinet, and
 takes less than an hour to build.  It has come in handy more times than
 I can count.

 http://www.ohr.com/rfl100.htm

 Oak Hills has some good goods.

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Re: [Elecraft] Don't have a 50W dummy load

[Brian]

Excellent advice Don.  I bought a 100w dummy load kit from OHR. It's 
called the RFL-100 and it's about $40, comes in a very nice cabinet, and 
takes less than an hour to build.  It has come in handy more times than 
I can count.


http://www.ohr.com/rfl100.htm

Oak Hills has some good goods.

73 de KB9BVN
Brian Murrey


On 3/24/2015 5:25 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Tony,

Scolding time :-)
One thing that I believe should be in every ham's shack is a dummy 
load capable of handling the maximum power that your station can 
develop.  Ridge Equipment has a 50 ohm 75 watt dummy load good up to 
1.5GHz for $11.95, but you will need an adapter for UHF connectors so 
that is an additional $5.  See 
https://www.ridgeequipment.com/store/dummyloads.html.


If ever you run into a problem, the first check is to see what happens 
when you transmit into a dummy load.  That removes many variables - 
like RFI problems and antenna problems.  It is the first check I 
recommend.  If the rig works into the dummy load, you need to look for 
the problem somewhere other than the rig.


I have had rigs sent to me for repair only to find that there is 
nothing wrong.  The resulting repair charge is greater than the cost 
of a good dummy load.


If you look for one at a hamfest, take your ohmmeter along to check if 
it is still a 50 ohm load - some are burned out from excessive power.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/24/2015 3:25 PM, Tony Estep wrote:
Well, now I downloaded the new firmware, only to discover that I have 
to do
the 50W calibration. I have a 5W dummy load, but no 50W. The 5W 
calibration

went okay. So do I have to get a 50W dummy load before I can use the K3
again? Or should I back down to the previous firmware? Or what?




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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Settings Retrieval Software

[Brian Denley]

Nice programs for the K2!  I hope he finishes the filter settings program.  
That looks very handy.

Brian Denley
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 On Mar 8, 2015, at 4:39 AM, Sverre Holm (LA3ZA) la...@nrrl.no wrote:
 
 I just wanted to remind the list of the AB3AP software found on
 http://udel.edu/~mm/ham/elecraft/
 
 I'm especially fond of the software for K2 Settings Retrieval about which
 he says Save your K2 set up in case of an unexpected reset.
 
 I have just serviced a K2 where the previous owner had had soldering
 problems (untinned toroids, solder bridges, ...) as well as settings which
 were far off. I find it useful then to start by reading out the settings to
 figure out what the starting point is, as well as backing up all the values
 when the calibration has been completed.
 
 The AB3AP software is in the form of Java programs. My web browsers don't
 allow them to be run, but simply downloading the code and running them from
 the command line works fine. For a PC this is javaws params.jnlp.
 
 
 
 -
 Sverre, LA3ZA
 
 K2 #2198, K3 #3391,
 LA3ZA Blog: http://la3za.blogspot.com,
 LA3ZA Unofficial Guide to K2 modifications: 
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Re: [Elecraft] Power cord for KPA500

[brian]

Only question I would have is the gauge wire used in the 220 volt 
cord.   Is there any difference between it and the 120 V power cord?


73 de Brian/K3KO
On 3/7/2015 19:34 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
The one that comes with the KPA500 is a very nice heavy duty cord. I 
would not trust some of those super cheap computer cords.  Why not 
remove the 220 end and put a decent 110v plug on the cord?


Mike W0MU

On 3/7/2015 12:24 PM, Ian - Ham wrote:

My father-in-law (KC4YBO) just bought a KPA500 off an estate sale. It is
currently wired for 220 VAC.  He will convert it to 115 VAC for use 
in our
shack.  Is there any reason he can't use an old computer power cord 
we have

lying around for the KPA500, if it will fit the amp's power block?


Thanks and 73,


--Ian

Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
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10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038

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K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 won’t unkey properly

[Brian Waterworth]

Joe, that is good advice.  I personally haven't run into this problem as I
always run PTT via VOX.  I use FLDigi on a Macbook connected to the KX3
directly and use VOX only.  It works brilliantly.  The Macbook is a little
older and has both line in and headphone jacks.  I don't use my signalink
with the KX3.  The KX3 audio  output and mic input are great.  I have
posted previously on this reflector my KX3 settings to help achieve this
nirvana.

regards,
Brian
VE3IBW

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 Make sure that you are not generating PTT by software command in fldigi
 and PTT via the VOX in Signalink at the same time.  The stuck in
 transmit behavior seems to be associated with mixing software and
 hardware PTT.

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... Joe, W4TV


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Programmable Split?

[brian]

Joe,

This is a bunch of baloney.   What you are really saying is that you 
don't like what most do.   So be it.   Ian's proposal won't gore your ox.

73 de Brian/K3KO
On 2/19/2015 14:13 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:


On 2015-02-18 11:33 PM, Ian White wrote:

my suggestion was to offer Quick Split as an option that could only
be selected through a new item in the Configuration menu, as an
alternative behavior for the existing [SPLIT] button.


That is *wrong* on so many levels and not even the big boys pervert
the basic split function with an automatic offset.  As you point out
the MK V did have the capability but I never used it one time in the
ten years or so I used the rig on a regular basis (it's still in the
closet unused since getting the K3s).  BTW, I can't find quick split
in either the TS-590 or TS-990 manuals so it's still far from universal
(or obvious).

To force a choice between simply enabling VFO B where I have already
set it and enable VFO B at a fixed offset from VFO A is wrong.  It
sets up for the very thing you complain about - a user who knows the
operation of the rig in its normal state walks into a K3 that has
been perverted with Quick Split instead of split sets down and can
never get split right because quick split constantly wipes out the
user's own VFO settings.

 No... what I am really asking for is WHAT I REALLY WROTE.

What you WROTE was an industry standard feature - The big boys use
a second function key or a *hold* of the split button for quick split.
Since the second key version has always been available by using one
of the PF keys, you *must* be advocating the hold option. However,
since split is already a hold of AB, as a practical matter a hold of
a hold function is a long hold.

Whatever is done should *never* cause the basic definition of split -
select transmit on VFO B where I have it set to be lost or only
available by resetting a menu.  Such an option is equivalent to tune
VFO B with the big knob and tune VFO A with the little knob - it
turns the user interface on its head.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Programmable Split?

[brian]

Ian,

Except for your posting,  most guys really missed half the need. Getting 
it into split if the first half; knowing it is in split is the other 
part.   It's too darn easy to not get into split because it takes three 
correct taps/press combos to get you there.   For me the success rate is 
under 50%.Fortunately,  I've gotten around this (why should I have 
to) via external means.


A single button SPLIT is absolutely a solution to many of the 
transmitting on the DX frequency occurrences..  Putting it as an option 
as you suggest  is a good compromise between the way it is now (why??) 
and something really needed by the majority.


Why should there be any resistance to this common sense suggestion?

73 de Brian/K3KO

On 2/19/2015 4:33 AM, Ian White wrote:

We lost power for a few hours. Looks like I missed a load of fun...


W4TV wrote:

The bedrock point of principle is this: users should *never* be
forced to resort to macros for simple industry-standard features that
ought to be part of the firmware.

Since *when* is a programmable split an industry standard feature?
In 40 years, I have *never* owned a transceiver that included a
programmable split feature.  Admittedly some of the newer rigs may
offer that function - but it was not not present in any transceiver I
owned or used from the TS-520/FT-101B in the 70's through the FT-1000MP
MKV including transceivers by all major manufacturers.


RTFM!

My 1000MP MK1 had programmable Quick Split from 1995, so your later MkV
had it too (I'm looking at a downloaded manual right now). Turning to
Icom, the IC-746 had Quick Split in 1997 and their top-of-the-line
models probably had it even earlier.

Proof enough, if proof were needed, that the two largest transceiver
manufacturers have had Quick Split as part of their feature-set for at
least 20 years. From their early top-of-the-line models, Quick Split has
trickled down to become an expected feature in any modern CPU-controlled
HF transceiver that is targeted at DX operators.

Why? Because Quick Split is helpful to users - it *guarantees* to shift
the TX VFO away from the frequency of the DX station in a pileup - and
also because it isn't a difficult feature for manufacturers to include.

(But radios like the TS-520/FT-101B from the 1970s have no part in this
discussion. You can't have programmed Split in a radio that has a
hand-cranked VFO... and no CPU!)



What you are really asking for - based on the hold split behavior
in other recent rigs is getting back to a *THIRD STATE* on a switch.
It would need to be a two second hold of A- B, one second for normal
split, two for quick split ... another UI cluster.
  
No... what I am really asking for is WHAT I REALLY WROTE.


If you had read the whole posting before jumping to the wrong
conclusions, it was completely clear that my suggestion was to offer
Quick Split as an option that could only be selected through a new item
in the Configuration menu, as an alternative behavior for the existing
[SPLIT] button.

That proposal does NOT require a third switch state, so I wasn't asking
for one. That and everything else you wrote about other recent rigs,
a third state and a two second hold was the product of your own
incorrectly imagined scenario. You made it up and you got it wrong.

This is by no means an isolated case. Please try much harder to read
what people ACTUALLY DID WRITE.
  


73 from Ian GM3SEK


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