Re: [PSES] CE marking of deep-fat fryer

2011-11-15 Thread Peter Tarver
From: ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com [mailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 08:51 I don't think UL would be sued; the manufacturer is ultimately liable.  The is little or no benefit of 3rd party certification of a product under Tort law. The

RE: HiPot testing of DC mains powered products

2001-11-13 Thread Peter Tarver
Rich - While I can't speak for Chris, there are a few reasons to perform production line ESTs on 48V dc mains powered equipment. 1) in 48Vdc SMPSs, the voltages present on transformer insulation are typically in excess of ELV limits. If the power supply has had fault testing performed that

RE: DC voltage ratings

2001-10-25 Thread Peter Tarver
Dave - Perhaps I was misinformed, but it was my understanding that 70V battery was not panEuropean, but is specific to Germany and Austria, and then not necessarily ubiquitous in those countries. I'd appreciate your expanding on this. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Product Safety Manager

Failure analysis

2001-10-24 Thread Peter Tarver
We are looking for a good failure analysis company in the SF Bay area. Anyone have any leads for companies you've had a positive experience with? Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Product Safety Manager Sanmina Homologation Services peter.tar...@sanmina.com

RE: TNV Circuits

2001-10-23 Thread Peter Tarver
Perry - A note of general concurrence with Joe's take on your circuits. The various DSL power feeds are at this time treated as hazardous voltage circuits. There is activity in IEC, TC47, to consider requirements for remote feeding circuits, but publication is not imminent. The UL/CSA

Test Equipment manual

2001-10-23 Thread Peter Tarver
Good morning. I have a Yokogawa Electric, Model 2509, digital wattmeter for which I have no manual. I searched both Manuals Plus' and Manual Merchant's web sites and came up negative. Even though this is a very simple meter, I would like to have a manual for each piece of equipment in my

RE: UL - marking - gentle warning not to extrapolate.

2001-10-18 Thread Peter Tarver
Rich - Regarding UL Recognized Component Appliance Wiring Material, the yellow book states that the marking must be on a tag, the reel or smallest unit container, not surface marked on the wire insulation, as referred to by Greg. Very few UL FUS folks will accept surface marking, though I had

RE: UL - marking - gentle warning not to extrapolate.

2001-10-18 Thread Peter Tarver
Gary - Or for the less scrupulous than careless, to remove the certification mark from a product and place it one that is not safety certified. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Product Safety Manager Sanmina Homologation Services peter.tar...@sanmina.com From: Gary McInturff The Product

RE: UL - marking - gentle warning not to extrapolate.

2001-10-18 Thread Peter Tarver
Peter - If you have such a memo, please do provide a copy. I my years working at UL and working with them since, it was ever abundantly and adamantly maintained (by UL's FUS Label Services group) that the Control Number is a required part of the Listing Mark and there is no substitution for it.

RE: UL - marking - gentle warning not to extrapolate.

2001-10-18 Thread Peter Tarver
Rich is quite right, in general. There are UL Listing Marks available, but they won't have the other three required elements that make up the complete marking (some may include the word Listed). The page Rich referred to in a UL Follow-Up Services Procedure, though, is separate from the Section

RE: Lithium Ion Batteries

2001-10-17 Thread Peter Tarver
Sorry. I clicked too fast during spell checking. I meant, thank you. -Original Message- From: Peter Tarver Think you, Angus. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit

RE: Lithium Ion Batteries

2001-10-17 Thread Peter Tarver
Think you, Angus. The title for this standard is: Primary Batteries - Part 4: Safety Standard for Lithium Batteries In my case, and I think this is true of all Li ion cells and batteries, it is a secondary battery, meaning rechargeable. Primary batteries can't be or aren't intended to be

RE: Lithium Ion Batteries

2001-10-16 Thread Peter Tarver
: Peter Tarver I am looking for safety standards related to large lithium-ion secondary batteries (nonautomotive). I've searched several standards web sites (IEC, ANSI, IEEE, CENELEC, BSI, UL, CSA) and there appears to be nothing specific to lithium-ion cells. Your help will be appreciated

Lithium Ion Batteries

2001-10-11 Thread Peter Tarver
I am looking for safety standards related to large lithium-ion secondary batteries (nonautomotive). I've searched several standards web sites (IEC, ANSI, IEEE, CENELEC, BSI, UL, CSA) and there appears to be nothing specific to lithium-ion cells. Your help will be appreciated. Regards, Peter

RE: AS/NZS 60950

2001-10-11 Thread Peter Tarver
the ACA on the topic of when AS60950 will replace AS3260. So my question stands. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Product Safety Manager Sanmina Homologation Services peter.tar...@sanmina.com -Original Message- From: Peter Tarver Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 2:27 PM Does any one have

AS/NZS 60950

2001-10-10 Thread Peter Tarver
Does any one have a view of when (or if) AS/NZS 60950 (based on IEC60950, Third Edition) will become the legally required standard for ITE in Australia and/or New Zealand (whether independently or through TS001)? Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Product Safety Manager Sanmina Homologation Services

RE: RTI on Plastics

2001-10-04 Thread Peter Tarver
. Peter -Original Message- From: John Woodgate Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 10:45 AM I read in !emc-pstc that Peter Tarver peter.tar...@sanmina.com wrote some stuff Yes, there can be confusion about these terms. However, I suspect that the TC28 'material category' takes

RE: RTI on Plastics

2001-10-03 Thread Peter Tarver
John - The RTI you are referencing from IEC TC28 appears to be not the same parameter as being discussed. In UL parlance, as you surmised, RTI represents Relative Temperature Index and gives a maximum operating temperature at which a polymeric material may experience for its other properties to

RE: RTI on Plastics

2001-10-02 Thread Peter Tarver
Tony - The UL746 series of standards are referenced in CSA/UL60950, Annex P.2. RTI is a material property evaluated in UL746B, Polymeric Materials - Long Term Property Evaluations. IIRC, guidance on the applicability of RTI is given in UL746C, Polymeric Materials - Use in Electrical Equipment

RE: current carrying conductors

2001-08-17 Thread Peter Tarver
Yes. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Product Safety Manager Sanmina Homologation Services peter.tar...@sanmina.com -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Stone, Richard A (Richard) Group, can you

FDA harmonization effort for laser compliance

2001-07-27 Thread Peter Tarver
The infamous Laser notice 50. The following is Excerpted from Federal Register / Vol. 66, No. 144 / Thursday, July 26, 2001 / Notices under the heading titled, Laser Products—Conformance with IEC 60825–1, Am. 2 and IEC 60601–2–22 (Laser Notice 50). CDRH intends to amend its standards for laser

RE: Products Electrical Ratings De-rated for Eurpoean Branch Circuits

2001-06-26 Thread Peter Tarver
The tardiness of this reply is due to my employer's insistence upon performance of tasks of their choosing to accommodate remuneration in the locally common monetary exchange units. Jim Eichner pointed out a fallacy in my below statement and I must acquiesce. By operating from memory (but I

RE: LED's Lasing

2001-06-20 Thread Peter Tarver
Ed - First and foremost, there must exist a resonant cavity formed inside the semiconductor or in combination of the semiconductor die and its packaging. Then the threshold current (for population inversion of the lasing medium) must be exceeded. Only the latter is related to external faults

RE: Products Electrical Ratings De-rated for Eurpoean Branch Circuits

2001-06-20 Thread Peter Tarver
I don't have the answer to Glenn's question, but do have a comment on Nick's response. Nick states: The rating of a UL rated fuse is more or less the current at which it blows. The rating of a fuse to IEC 127 (used throughout Europe) is more or less the working current of the fuse and the

RE: AC Power Primer?

2001-05-07 Thread Peter Tarver
Not so. Most household appliances contain motors (excluding entertainment appliances). Motors (ac induction types; the most commonly used) are generally less efficient at lower voltages (largely by virtue of their increased I^2*R loss) and draw more current to perform the same amount of work or

RE: Remote Hazrdous Secondary Voltage Power Feeding on Lan Cabling

2001-04-19 Thread Peter Tarver
Peter - 1) Agreed. Keep in mind that IEEE 802.3 compliant signals are unearthed SELV and how SELV is derived in the power source was not specified. 2) There are potential problems, but this is not to say insurmountable. I doubt, however, that LAN cable meeting Reinforced insulation

RE: UL1950 vs EN60950

2001-04-19 Thread Peter Tarver
Amund - For the most part, installation code issues, component standard issues, power cross (overvoltage) testing and a number of other items sprinkled throughout the standard. You will need to buy a copy of the standard to get the full picture. It is not simple enough to place in an e-mail.

RE: Air Flow Meters

2001-02-27 Thread peter . tarver
I have a Kurz, model 441s hot wire probe unit. Refer to http://www.kurz-instruments.com/ Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Product Safety Manager Sanmina Homologation Services peter.tar...@sanmina.com -Original Message- From: Kurt Mikolajewski [mailto:kmiko...@catena.com] Sent: Monday,

Job opportunity - Product Integrity

2001-01-26 Thread peter . tarver
Job Title: Product Integrity Engineer Job Location: San Jose, CA Company Description:Sanmina is a Tier-1 electronics manufacturing services (EMS) company with over 50 world class manufacturing facilities. Sanmina provides a full spectrum of integrated, value-added services that

Job opportunity - Product Safety

2001-01-26 Thread peter . tarver
Job Title: Product Safety Engineer Job Location: San Jose, CA Company Description:Sanmina is a Tier-1 electronics manufacturing services (EMS) company with over 50 world class manufacturing facilities. Sanmina provides a full spectrum of integrated, value-added services that includes:

RE: Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court

2001-01-24 Thread peter . tarver
The same is easily said of other products, Rick, like firearms (where there are politically motivated lawsuits in progress and also directly analogous to the tobacco lawsuits on many levels), hot coffee from MacDonalds, ad infinitum. That a product is known to be hazardous or dangerous is not

Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court

2001-01-24 Thread peter . tarver
From the Telecom Digest Monty Solomon wrote: Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court NEW ORLEANS, La. - In ruling that could shake the cell phone industry, a federal judge let stand a lawsuit that says companies are making and selling cell phones with the knowledge that they may be

RE: Laser approval

2001-01-11 Thread peter . tarver
The component is marked, does not comply...? I haven't seen that one yet. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Product Safety Manager Sanmina Homologation Services peter.tar...@sanmina.com -Original Message- From: acar...@uk.xyratex.com [mailto:acar...@uk.xyratex.com] Sent: Wednesday,

RE: Laser approval

2001-01-10 Thread peter . tarver
I need to add the following to clarify my below statements regarding FDA certification. 21CFR, Chapter I, Section 1002.1(b) allows exemption for components intended for sale exclusively to other manufacturers for use in other products. The implication is that, if the component might be sold

RE: Laser approval

2001-01-11 Thread peter . tarver
Hi, KB. It is incorrect that IEC825 does not apply to components. In the case of components, the worst case emissions, based on power supply and any other factors that affect output power/energy must be considered. The FDA requirements in 21CFR requires all laser sources, devices or products to

RE: UL60950, Third Edition

2001-01-03 Thread peter . tarver
...@mail.monarch.com'; peter.tar...@sanmina.com; Peter Tarver, in the message below, mentions he obtained a new edition of the IT safety standard CSA60950/UL60950. I have been unable to locate a Dec. 1, 2000 edition of UL60950 on the IHS Global DOcument website, nor have I found a CSA60950

RE: Three phase delta system in USA

2001-12-17 Thread Peter Tarver
Ghery - He is correct. There are DELTA configured transformers with one phase earthed in the US. This is referred to as corner grounded. Refer to http://saskpower.apogee.net/foe/ftdttd.asp for a brief on the applications. The site is incomplete (overall), but has some useful information.

RE: What happened to the IEC60417 symbol library?

2001-12-17 Thread Peter Tarver
The main page for the site is still up, just none of the content we all seek. http://w3.hike.te.chiba-u.ac.jp/iec417/ver2.0/html/index.htm l Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Product Safety Manager Sanmina Homologation Services peter.tar...@sanmina.com ---

RE: 2 Phases in North America

2001-12-17 Thread Peter Tarver
Failed on the first try. Let's try again. Peter -Original Message- From: Peter Tarver [mailto:peter.tar...@sanmina.com] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 8:57 AM To: 'EMC-PSTC Forum' Cc: 'Barry Esmore' Subject: RE: 2 Phases in North America This is a recurring topic. While

RE: ANSI std MW-1000 sections

2002-06-07 Thread Peter Tarver
Brian - The MW represents an NEMA/ANSI magnet wire type. As I'm sure you're aware, there are a number of constructional variations for magnet wire coatings with regard to costing materials and thickness. Those meeting some minimum specifications associated with an MW type will advertise the

RE: Safety Overview Web Site

2002-05-30 Thread Peter Tarver
Also FYI: Domain Name: I-SPEC.COM Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC. Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com ITL (Product Testing) Ltd. POB 211 Or Yehuda 60251 IL Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: Griver, Jon Perhaps the same Jon Griver of 601help.com: Powerful Connections Ltd.

ITUT K.44

2002-05-21 Thread Peter Tarver
We are in the process of performing evaluations to ITUT K.45, which references K.44 for test circuits and methods. In K.44, there are both couplers and decouplers referenced, when connecting the surge generator to an EUT and between the EUT/generator and adjunct equipment. These devices are not

RE: Australian TS001 now part of AUS/NZ60950?

2002-05-17 Thread Peter Tarver
Alex - No, TS001-1997 is called up by the Telecommunications Labeling Notice 2001, and so is still required. TS001-1997, in turn, calls up AS3260 (TS001 has still not been updated from the 1997 edition, even though AS/NZS 90950 has been in publication for almost two years). I note that neither

RE: FDA letters of Accession - Clarification

2002-05-15 Thread Peter Tarver
John Gary - In point of fact, the Accession letters are *only* acknowledgement of receipt of report materials. The do not, nor are they intended to convey anything about compliance. In light of their intended function, it is reasonable to expect they are sent automagically. Compliance is not

RE: PCB coating questions

1999-03-08 Thread Peter Tarver
Arjen - Check the Conditions of Acceptability on the coatings you're interested in using. UL Recognized conformal coatings are, for the most part, are tested for use on the bare board (base laminate) and are not tested for use on solder masks. Regards, Peter L. Tarver Nortel Networks

UL60950, Third Edition

2000-12-21 Thread peter . tarver
Early this week I received a copy of CSA60950/UL60950, Third Edition, the new Bi-National Standard, based on IEC60950, Third Edition. The edition number was maintained to correspond with the IEC standard edition number. Publication date is 1DEC2000. Nifty. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE

RE: Got another beef about an NRTL (haven't we all?)

2000-10-26 Thread Peter Tarver
At one time or another, we certainly all do. Each NRTL has its own level of absurdity, whether by being too harsh or too lax. There is one NRTL the international safety community of a previous employer had agreed was lax to the point of not accepting any component or OEM device that certified

RE: Got a beef with an NRTL ...

2000-10-19 Thread Peter Tarver
I've had this kind of thing pulled on me before, to. Start with their team leader, then group leader , then section head, then dept. manager, until you get satisfaction. Peter Tarver ptar...@nortelnetworks.com -Original Message- From: Doug [mailto:dmck...@gte.net] Sent: Thursday

RE: Centralized DC power systems

2000-10-16 Thread Peter Tarver
Gary - The below may be a little more than you bargained for, but here goes. My apologies, if this is more basic than your question. Each of the drawings in Figures NAB.1 and NAB.2 show grounding electrodes at the bottom. In Figure NAB.1, the electrode is used to earth the centralized dc power

RE: Color coding for U.S. 3 phase

2000-10-13 Thread Peter Tarver
Kurt - Except under special circumstances, the USNEC does not use color coding for phase conductors. There are reserved insulation colors for ground (green, with one or more yellow stripes) and for neutral (white or natural gray [whatever that is]). Otherwise, your free to use whatever color

RE: PCB temp ratings, etc...

2000-10-11 Thread Peter Tarver
Richard - Then the answer is no. The MOT, as Pete Perkins pointed out, establishes the test points for thermal conditioning, but solder resists are then tested in conjunction with the PWB only for flammability classification. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE ptar...@nortelnetworks.com

RE: PCB temp ratings, etc...

2000-10-11 Thread Peter Tarver
You're welcome, Richard. MOTs are developed for a copper clad industrial laminate and verified by certain tests on a finished PWB. Conformal coatings are not a normal part of this process, though I suppose a board house could ask for such considerations to be made for a selection of coatings.

RE: PCB temperature ratings

2000-10-10 Thread Peter Tarver
Richard - Basically, yes, though you may want to throw in a fudge factor to assuage your caution/due diligence monkey. FYI: The Maximum Operating Temperature (this is a normal operating condition temperature) for a PWB is based on accelerated aging testing, and comparing as received performance

RE: Australia Safety

2000-10-10 Thread Peter Tarver
Richard - What is required is approval by any of the individual state's governmental bodies in Australia. I can't find my list of authorities at the moment, but perhaps someone else can. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE ptar...@nortelnetworks.com -Original Message- From:

RE: Overcurrent Protection: One or Both Sides?

2000-10-10 Thread Peter Tarver
Chris Maxwell asks: Can anybody shoot a hole in this theory with a single fault condition? This subject has been debated before, on this list and elsewhere. Safety is always relative. In the scenarios you painted, Chris, the phase conductor always has an intact fuse after the neutral fuse

RE: Overcurrent Protection: One or Both Sides?

2000-10-09 Thread Peter Tarver
There seems to be some confusion regarding terminology and the location of the overcurrent protective devices being discussed. In the US and Canada, if a circuit breaker is located in the panelboard, John is generally correct that the neutral will not be controlled by the circuit breaker. On the

RE: Have I baffled the Product Safety Technical Committee?????

2000-10-09 Thread Peter Tarver
There is no correlation between air filter flammability class and the UL94 classifications. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE ptar...@nortelnetworks.com -Original Message- From: Jim Eichner [mailto:jim.eich...@xantrex.com] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 10:17 PM To: 'emc-p...@ieee.org'

RE: UL 723

2000-09-08 Thread Peter Tarver
Richard is absolutely correct. It's like trying to compare a match stick to a bon fire. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE ptar...@nortelnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wo...@sensormatic.com I just went through this myself. There is no real correlation between UL94 flame ratings and

RE: RE: EN55024 question

2000-09-01 Thread Peter Tarver
Bandele - Please forgive an ignorant question: I'm not going to pretend to be an EMC standards expert, but I fail to see how the presence or absence of processing an incoming signal has anything to do with whether there is a direct or indirect connection to outside lines. To wit: outside is

RE: Test voltage for products to the U.K.

2000-08-03 Thread Peter Tarver
Further on HD topics, I reviewed several HDs on the IHS web site and found them to not be of much use, beyond giving standard references in each country for the point of harmonization, with dates of withdrawal, and the like. I didn't find any, in the dozen or so I looked at, covering diverse

RE: Flame Spread

2000-07-31 Thread Peter Tarver
Richard - I have no direct evidence to support a claim either way, but if a material can only meet HB requirements, I have strong doubts about its ability to have a FS of 200, using ASTME84 test. The Steiner Tunnel testing uses a significantly different method from the 1/2 in. flame test used

RE: Home safety

2000-07-31 Thread Peter Tarver
Other items include: service entrance equipment panelboards and circuit breakers (in general) insulated wiring GFCI outlets flue dampers double-walled flue pipes Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE ptar...@nortelnetworks.com -Original Message- From: Price, Ed Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000

RE: Are NTCs Safe to Use in Electrical Equipment

2000-07-20 Thread Peter Tarver
Peter - Thermistors are in common usage and my limited experience with them indicates they are reliable for their intended function. The thermal issues have been discussed, and the usual regimen for high temperature components applies. I'm not aware of any other particular safety concerns.

RE: Are NTCs Safe to Use in Electrical Equipment

2000-07-20 Thread Peter Tarver
I really don't have a clear idea of whether or not your solution will work. Let us know. NTCs, as with most thermistors, get very hot when in their switched state. For the NTC, that's it's steady-state condition. I wouldn't put this in a junction box with other wiring, unless you're absolutely

RE: Using fuse to protect wire undersized for load?

2000-09-14 Thread Peter Tarver
Lauren - I'm not familiar with NFPA79, so I'll answer only with regard to NFPA70 (the US NEC). The 125% issue in the NEC is for two items: attachment plugs sizing and circuit breaker sizing (1/1.25 = 0.80), both relative to load current. Attachment plugs for equipment that contain motors must

RE: PCB fuse trace

2000-09-14 Thread Peter Tarver
My experience with safety agencies is they do not want to rely on traces opening to act as fuses and no standards have been developed, that I am aware of, to address this issue. Fuses certification gets involved in the metallic alloys used, to the fraction of a percent, the conductor size,

RE: PCB fuse trace

2000-09-14 Thread Peter Tarver
but to rely on that mechanism for fire prevention is a bit far fetched. From my limite experience with fuses, there is generally a large structure that is enclosed in sand to prevent a fire from spreading. Jim Freeman Peter Tarver wrote: My experience with safety agencies is they do not want

RE: Double Retention

2000-09-20 Thread Peter Tarver
Rich and Andy - There is an additional reference in 4.3.9 of IEC60950, Second Edition, and applies where certain types of required insulation can be bridged, rather than being limited to just power supply cord conductors (though this could easily have been the origin of the requirement [actually,

RE: Wiring under raised floors

2000-09-20 Thread Peter Tarver
Ted - At issue, really, is whether or not the under side of the raised floor is used for environmental air, not simply that it's in a computer room. For the question at hand, though, I'll assume that's the case. My first inclination is to say it's not allowed. If you also look at 300-22 of the

RE: DC power distribution

2000-09-20 Thread Peter Tarver
Lisa - While I can't speak directly to the case in EN61326, this sounds a lot like the concept of a centralized dc power system, as addressed in UL1459 and carried over into CSA950/UL1950 and working it's way into IEC60950 as a dc mains supply (there is only reference in IEC60950, Third Edition,

RE: Protection or Control?

2000-09-21 Thread Peter Tarver
Luiz - Bimetal switched are used as manual and automatic reset thermal protectors in electric motors, transformers. Very common and has been for many years. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE ptar...@nortelnetworks.com -Original Message- From: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com

RE: UL Listed Class 2 Transformers

2000-09-22 Thread Peter Tarver
Tamura makes a good quality product, but most of their transformers are UL Recognized, rather than Listed. You can search UL's web site in their Certifications area, using the CCN XOKV and probably get the latest set of companies with Listings. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE

RE: Protection or Control?

2000-09-23 Thread Peter Tarver
Bimetal switches have been used for decades and proven generally to provide an adequate or better safety protection function. Not all bimetal switches are autoreset types; some require manual resetting. I've also experience bimetallic thermal protectors in motors in an open failure mode, more

RE: UL1950/UL2601 Thermals

2000-06-28 Thread Peter Tarver
That's really just a rule of thumb. A working premise that provides reasonable results in a relatively short time. As Kaz mentioned, it's not uncommon for some circuits/parts to exhibit a cycling of temperature, either by cyclical loads presented to them or some form of (generic) limiting

RE: Resistors Between TNV-3 and SELV

2000-06-27 Thread Peter Tarver
Peter - UL has no problem with components bridging the insulation, provided you comply with the appropriate testing in the standard and provide otherwise appropriate clearances and creepages (just as you expected). In Europe, the Nordic countries require Supplementary insulation between SELV and

RE: MITI/Dentori-T

2000-06-20 Thread Peter Tarver
Not so dumb. It's probably a translation issue, since Kenji and the English alphabet are nothing alike. I've mostly seen it spelled in all-caps as DENTORI. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Homologation Engineering Nortel Networks ptar...@nortelnetworks.com -Original Message- From:

RE: CE Markings for A.C. Mains

2000-06-14 Thread Peter Tarver
For ITE, refer to IEC60950, 3rd ed, Subclause 1.7.7.2, first dashed paragraph. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Homologation Engineering Nortel Networks ptar...@nortelnetworks.com -Original Message- From: bur...@andovercontrols.com [mailto:bur...@andovercontrols.com] Sent: Wednesday, June

RE: Terminal Blocks-Field Wiring Requirements

2000-06-09 Thread Peter Tarver
Don - There are additional details beyond the following, but in essence, there are pull-out and wire retention tests that are done for field wiring purposes that may or may not have been done for factory wiring purposes. Field wiring terminal blocks are subjected to the full range of tests

RE: ITE Requirements for Australia

2000-06-08 Thread Peter Tarver
Hi, Peter. From: Peter Merguerian [mailto:pmerguer...@itl.co.il] Dear All, 1. For ITE (without a connection to a telecommunication network), what are the applicable standards and requirements? I assume AS3260 (safety) and AS3548 (emc) and the manufacturer applies the C-Tick Mark (ie

RE: High voltage testing and altitude correction factor

2000-06-07 Thread Peter Tarver
Hi Rich. The exception being Table G.2 of IEC60950, 3rd ed. Table G.2 clearly states its applicability up to 2km, when using Annex G and its Alternative method for determining minimum clearances. Peter L. Tarver, PE ptar...@nortelnetworks.com From: Rich Nute [mailto:ri...@sdd.hp.com] Hi

FW: Laser Classification

2000-05-26 Thread Peter Tarver
My apologies for not sending this to the group originally. Others may have interest. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Homologation Engineering Nortel Networks ptar...@nortelnetworks.com -Original Message- From: Tarver, Peter [SC1:4N02:EXCH] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 1:16 PM To:

RE: Hazardous Infrared radiation ?

2000-05-23 Thread Peter Tarver
IEC60825-1 contains requirements for noncoherent infrared radiation. Likewise does EN60825-1, with Amendment A11. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE ptar...@nortelnetworks.com From: Israel Yeshurun [mailto:israel_yeshu...@creoscitex.com] Can some comment on this ? Can Infrared

RE: UL certification and Underwriter Laboratory

2000-05-15 Thread Peter Tarver
From: Ned Devine [mailto:ndev...@entela.com] Hi, Hi, Ned. OK, I wasn't going to say anything, but. 1.A UL Listed product complies with all of the applicable requirements. Usually from a standard. 2.A UL Recognized Component does not comply with all of the applicable

RE: UL certification and Underwriter Laboratory

2000-05-15 Thread Peter Tarver
All - In addition to all of the other comments (all essentially true), I would like to clarify one issue, touched on by Rich Nute, but not made as clear as could be. The backwards UR ligature is copyrighted by UL and can not be applied to a product certified by another NRTL, without violating

Re: [PSES] Orgalime: UL an effective barrier to trade

2011-12-29 Thread Peter Tarver
This echoes the hue and cry based on ISO 9000 registration requirements in the early '90s. These requirements were placed on the purchasing side of businesses. There was quite a bit of noise emanating from the US and Canada that this was a de facto nontariff trade barrier erected by

Re: [PSES] Mandatory NRTL certification

2012-01-06 Thread Peter Tarver
Microsoft Word - 13608_48002 Adding more fuel to the fire, some AHJs demonstrate a preference for certain NRTLs, meaning they place more credence in some NRTLs certifications over others. This will not necessarily be found in writing. If a product is a relatively new technology in a field,

Re: [PSES] Mandatory NRTL Certification

2012-01-06 Thread Peter Tarver
I was unaware that UL certifications had a 1 year shelf life. That statement from UL devalues UL certification in a big way. At a previous employer, we had an environmental chamber moved to a building that had been renovated before we moved in. The AHJ red tagged the chamber, because it

Re: [PSES] Mandatory NRTL certification

2012-01-09 Thread Peter Tarver
From: Bill Owsley [mailto:wdows...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 07:46 UL used to have to have a near monopoly and was a non-profit company to do this. Then the Federal law changed to implement the NRTL program so that there are a number of competitors This misses the mark.

[PSES] EU Directives versus Regulations

2012-01-10 Thread Peter Tarver
The Construction Product Regulation (305/2011/EU) is replacing the Construction Product Directive (89/106/EEC). Is there a palpable difference between an EU Directive and a Regulation? Some fewer whereases, but the look and feel is the same. Regards, Peter L. Tarver This email message is for

Re: [PSES] EU Directives versus Regulations

2012-01-10 Thread Peter Tarver
Thank you for the responses. 305/2011/EU states 89/106/EEC is repealed upon publication of 305/2011/EU. At present there are no harmonized standards applicable to 305/2011/EU that I could locate, but http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/construction/legislation/index_en.h tm contains a link

Re: [PSES] EU Directives versus Regulations

2012-01-11 Thread Peter Tarver
From: John Woodgate Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 00:58 10 Jan 2012, Peter Tarver ptar...@enphaseenergy.com writes: snip At present there are no harmonized standards applicable to 305/2011/EU snip Where does one find a list of harmonized standards associated

Re: [PSES] AHJ vs AHJ

2012-01-13 Thread Peter Tarver
From: Brian Oconnell Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 10:23 Inspector shows up, unannounced, and walks into the engineering lab. AHJ (municipal) auditor - ...can't have exposed hazardous electrical on the benches. And these sprinklers do not seem correct... me - only experienced engineers

Re: [PSES] UL recognized molders

2012-01-24 Thread Peter Tarver
Brian - The UL molder's program is a paper chase for traceability. That cost seems unlikely to be directly attributable to charges they pay to UL, unless something has drastically changed under the latest management. The only way this could cost a company $10E6 is very high volume and the time

[PSES] (Fwd) RE: Compliance PM Position

2012-02-02 Thread Peter Tarver
Howdy all. Contact Shannon regarding this position. See below. Doesn't say, but probably in San Jose, CA. Peter Tarver ptar...@ieee.org --- Forwarded message follows --- From:Schlothauer, Shannon sschl...@aerotek.com To:ptar...@ieee.org ptar...@ieee.org Date

Re: [PSES] Melting BNC connectors

2012-02-10 Thread Peter Tarver
From: Macy [mailto:m...@basicisp.net] Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 07:32 Next you'll tell us the component was radioactive, made of some 'surplus' material. Like all that gold jewelry that found itself on the market way back when. or the cheese graters from not so very long ago. This

[PSES] EU wiring code low voltage / medium voltage transition

2012-02-22 Thread Peter Tarver
Good morning. In the US, low voltage is considered 600 Vac or less. Medium voltage begins above 600 Vac. In Canada, low voltage is considered 750 Vac or less. Medium voltage begins above 750 Vac. Is there a similar (harmonized or not) voltage level transition in Europe? Is the LVD's 1000

Re: [PSES] Construction directive/regulation in EU

2012-03-13 Thread Peter Tarver
Kim – You can review these links as a starter. http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/construction/index_en.htm http://www.exploreconstruction.eu/index.jspx Peter Tarver *From:* Kim Boll Jensen [mailto:k...@bolls.dk] *Sent:* Tuesday, March 13, 2012 02:24 *To:* EMC-PSTC

Re: [PSES] Looking for a copy of SPI AN-134

2012-03-16 Thread Peter Tarver
ANSI/SPI B151.1-2007: Plastics Machinery -Horizontal Injection Molding Machines -Safety Requirements for Manufacture, Care, and Use I found it on ANSI's web site for $50 Regards, Peter L. Tarver -Original Message- From: Doug Nix [mailto:d...@mac.com] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012

Re: [PSES] Safety standard for PBX telephone system??

2012-03-16 Thread Peter Tarver
From: Brian Oconnell Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 14:49 And Peter Tarver would say to also look at TR62102. I'm special that way. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to put on my helmet (it has shiny new tin foil today!) and ride the little yellow bus to where the nice lady gives us cookies. I

[PSES] HAR cable -v- BS 75671

2012-04-12 Thread Peter Tarver
Hi. The UK are cosigners to the HAR agreement. However, BS 7671 calls out a number of BS standards for cables, but does not mention HAR cable. Can HAR cables be used in the UK and meet BS 7671? What sort of limitations are there? Regards, Peter L. Tarver This email message is for the sole

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