Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-12 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: Karl Schmidt [mailto:k...@lrak.net] > I got burned with electronic-CAD software - the software quit unless you > signed up for their new expensive support > package.. > > > I've been using FreeCAD - slowly getting better - steep learning curve, but > they can't pull the plug -- AND it

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-12 Thread Karl Schmidt
On 7/11/23 06:43PM, John Dammeyer wrote: And the cost of the bait is very low compared to the number of fish they are catching with it. Once you have several years of drawings (all essentially free) throwing an upgrade that now costs on ly a tiny bit, hardly anything, but "Will enhance

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-12 Thread Thaddeus Waldner
, July 12, 2023 8:43:23 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards … chiming in on the native Apple Si version. The speed improvement is night and day difference. I’m on a M1 Max notebook and currently working with a large assembly imported from SW

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-12 Thread Ron Buck
… chiming in on the native Apple Si version. The speed improvement is night and day difference. I’m on a M1 Max notebook and currently working with a large assembly imported from SW. Even small changes were getting slow enough to get up and stretch while it was thinking. No hint of even a pause

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-12 Thread gene heskett
On 7/12/23 02:23, Chris Albertson wrote: On Jul 11, 2023, at 5:42 PM, gene heskett wrote: ... I'll bet real money that OpenSCAD is easier to learn. Openscad is certainly easy for some simple things but impossible for others. Try making a cordless power tool in OpenScad. But in Fusion a

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-12 Thread Chris Albertson
> On Jul 11, 2023, at 5:42 PM, gene heskett wrote: > > ... I'll bet real money that OpenSCAD is easier to learn. Openscad is certainly easy for some simple things but impossible for others. Try making a cordless power tool in OpenScad. But in Fusion a power tool is used as an

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-11 Thread gene heskett
On 7/11/23 18:36, andy pugh wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 at 23:13, gene heskett wrote: I also have a problem with the $1000 limit, even if my total intake in the last 2 decades is under 50 bucks for stuff I've done for OP. With today's prices, 10 G's would be a limit I might tolerate, but

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-11 Thread John Dammeyer
> -Original Message- > From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 at 23:13, gene heskett wrote: > > > I also have a problem with the $1000 limit, even if my total intake in > I think you are missing the point. Fusion is free to use until and if > you are using

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-11 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 at 23:13, gene heskett wrote: > I also have a problem with the $1000 limit, even if my total intake in > the last 2 decades is under 50 bucks for stuff I've done for OP. With > today's prices, 10 G's would be a limit I might tolerate, but really, I > have no intentions of

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-11 Thread gene heskett
On 7/11/23 09:31, Matthew Herd wrote: At one time, Fusion360's hobby user license limited rapids to the max feed speed, but that may have changed. The biggest issue I discovered was the one tool per program limitation. Even with a manual tool change, I prefer to have one program per setup

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-11 Thread Matthew Herd
At one time, Fusion360's hobby user license limited rapids to the max feed speed, but that may have changed. The biggest issue I discovered was the one tool per program limitation. Even with a manual tool change, I prefer to have one program per setup rather than multiple programs. On Tue, Jul

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-11 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 at 20:11, Dave Matthews wrote: > > Fusion 360 is still free for personal use. The limit is $1000 in sales. > The do defeature some parts like rapids in tool paths. I have read that, but the G-code it produces for me still contains G0 moves. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread Chris Albertson
It is not a public Beta. First you get Fusion 360 running which means setting up an account. They also need to see that you use Fusion regularly. Then you apply for membership in the “Insider’s Program”. More here https://feedback.autodesk.com/key/Fusion360Insider There are other new

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread Thaddeus Waldner
Would you mind detailing how to get this beta? > > BTW, Fusion 360 has just come out with a Beta release that runs native on > Apple Silicon. The new Apple processors are astonishingly fast. The above > part is designed to be printed but it is fun to let Fusion great g-code files > for

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread Dave Matthews
I don't know if Thailand falls under the ITAR rules but they may be what you are hitting. If you can't install it you probably can't run it either. Autodesk loves the cloud and calling home. Dave On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 22:41 Thomas J Powderly wrote: > thc all > > but the question said _get_ >

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread Thomas J Powderly
thc all but the question said _get_ not how to VBox or Wine  or... Thx but ity seems hard to __get__ Now I've followed Dave's url and it doesnt work... due to my location. Dave Thanks, I think I cant complete the download becasue I am in Thailand The origin of the request is in a country

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread gene heskett
On 7/5/23 15:05, Dave Matthews wrote: Fusion 360 is still free for personal use. The limit is $1000 in sales. Of what? The do defeature some parts like rapids in tool paths. That sucks, and since its gcode output is totally unwrapped, fixing the gcode in your fav editor isn't practical

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread Chris Albertson
> On Jul 5, 2023, at 11:36 AM, gene heskett wrote: > > On 7/5/23 13:29, Thomas J Powderly wrote: >> Since this thread has 'evolved' into free 3D modeling software... >> Can I ask how to get Fusion 360 on a Linux box? >> I remember several failed tries but I font recall why. >> LinuxCNC

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Will it run using WINE? https://www.winehq.org/ On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 11:30:21 AM MDT, Thomas J Powderly wrote: Since this thread has 'evolved' into free 3D modeling software... Can I ask how to get Fusion 360 on a Linux box? I remember several failed tries but I font recall why.

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread Chris Albertson
> On Jul 5, 2023, at 10:27 AM, Thomas J Powderly wrote: > > Since this thread has 'evolved' into free 3D modeling software... > > Can I ask how to get Fusion 360 on a Linux box? It is easy. But you need Linux on Intel. ARM-based Linux will not work 1) install a virtual machine system.

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread Dave Matthews
Fusion 360 is still free for personal use. The limit is $1000 in sales. The do defeature some parts like rapids in tool paths. https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/personal Dave On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 2:40 PM gene heskett wrote: > On 7/5/23 13:29, Thomas J Powderly wrote: > > Since

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread gene heskett
On 7/5/23 13:29, Thomas J Powderly wrote: Since this thread has 'evolved' into free 3D modeling software... Can I ask how to get Fusion 360 on a Linux box? I remember several failed tries but I font recall why. LinuxCNC community people seem to really like it, That seems to be true, but it

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread Thomas J Powderly
Since this thread has 'evolved' into free 3D modeling software... Can I ask how to get Fusion 360 on a Linux box? I remember several failed tries but I font recall why. LinuxCNC community people seem to really like it, TIA tomp On 7/5/23 21:44, gene heskett wrote: On 7/5/23 06:50, Gregg

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread gene heskett
On 7/5/23 06:50, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: This one has direct download links https://united3dartists.com/ That appears to be a windows program. Windows is extinct here. ;o)> Thank you. On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 11:44:50 AM MDT, gene heskett wrote: On 7/4/23 08:03, Gregg

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
This one has direct download links https://united3dartists.com/ On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 11:44:50 AM MDT, gene heskett wrote: On 7/4/23 08:03, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: > Caligari trueSpace can import STL and it can save to a wide range of formats. No thanks for the link

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
One more thing about using trueSpace for STL, only work in metric dimensions. It doesn't matter if you select millimeters, centimeters, or meters. To STL they're all millimeters. The different units in the software just work for your own convenience for scale so you don't have to zom in. If

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-04 Thread Chris Albertson
The problem with transforming an STL file to a “real” CAD file is that the STL is only an approximation of the true shape. The software would have to have some intelligence to see that the designer intended to (say) have a curved profile revolved around an axis to make a complex shape on a

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-04 Thread gene heskett
On 7/4/23 08:03, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: Caligari trueSpace can import STL and it can save to a wide range of formats. However, it hasn't had any official support since Microsoft bought Caligari to position trueSpace as a competitor to Google's Sketchup. (I call it Messup because

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-04 Thread gene heskett
On 7/4/23 08:03, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: Caligari trueSpace can import STL and it can save to a wide range of formats. However, it hasn't had any official support since Microsoft bought Caligari to position trueSpace as a competitor to Google's Sketchup. (I call it Messup because

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-04 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Caligari trueSpace can import STL and it can save to a wide range of formats. However, it hasn't had any official support since Microsoft bought Caligari to position trueSpace as a competitor to Google's Sketchup. (I call it Messup because I've seen some of the worst geometry ever made by

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-04 Thread gene heskett
On 7/4/23 02:01, andrew beck wrote: I run a CNC machine shop full time. We always want the step files. Or SOLIDWORKS files etc. And we make it own gcode from that. It would be a nightmare to run someone else's gcode lol. I'll have to agree Andrew. Most of the stuff on thingiverse for 3d

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-04 Thread andrew beck
I run a CNC machine shop full time. We always want the step files. Or SOLIDWORKS files etc. And we make it own gcode from that. It would be a nightmare to run someone else's gcode lol. On Tue, 4 Jul 2023, 17:45 Thomas J Powderly, wrote: > Hi Nicklas > > Maybe you look for old style grid

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-03 Thread Thomas J Powderly
Hi Nicklas Maybe you look for old style grid work planning Maybe you look for templates for each d/m/d/t code to work in text editor I remember older APT books showing the grid worksheets You may find them in the APTOS archives of  the wayback machine https://sourceforge.net/projects/aptos/

[Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-03 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Starting to get a little bit harder to remember everything manually, never worked in or submitted work to a workshop. Anyone with experience have some good example how a CNC machining setup card should look like? History of CNC machining https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvicnzyprOg Regards

Re: [Emc-users] CNC lathe show and tell.

2023-05-25 Thread andrew beck
> John > > -Original Message- > From: andrew beck [mailto:andrewbeck0...@gmail.com] > Sent: May 24, 2023 7:36 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: [Emc-users] CNC lathe show and tell. > > Hey guys this might interest people. > > > https://youtu.be/43

Re: [Emc-users] CNC lathe show and tell.

2023-05-24 Thread John Dammeyer
Very nice!!! What's the material? Were the raw pieces 3D printed? Is it a tapered thread? John -Original Message- From: andrew beck [mailto:andrewbeck0...@gmail.com] Sent: May 24, 2023 7:36 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] CNC lathe show and tell. Hey

[Emc-users] CNC lathe show and tell.

2023-05-24 Thread andrew beck
Hey guys this might interest people. https://youtu.be/43dDKU2GlnA Just a job I did yesterday on my and lathe. I kinda like it now. 3500 max rpm I think it's threading at about 900rpm ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] CNC Shaper Project

2023-01-27 Thread Matthew Herd
Great, thanks Andy. Seems like an interesting project. If I end up doing it, I'll be sure to post updates on my progress. On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 12:42 PM andy pugh wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 at 19:06, Matthew Herd wrote: > > > Is it possible to simply assert feed-hold > > during cut? I

Re: [Emc-users] CNC Shaper Project

2023-01-27 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 at 19:06, Matthew Herd wrote: > Is it possible to simply assert feed-hold > during cut? I assume that the feed rate would be equal to the commanded > feed rate whenever feed-hold is not asserted? I don't know for sure, I would experiment in a sim config to determine the

Re: [Emc-users] CNC Shaper Project

2023-01-26 Thread Matthew Herd
> > I don't think that there is much benefit in servo-ing this element of > the machine. > I would suggest that a simple (long) flag on the bull gear could be > used to determine if the machine is on the cut or return stroke, with > feed-hold asserted during the cut stroke. Otherwise you might as

Re: [Emc-users] CNC Shaper Project

2023-01-26 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 at 15:26, Matthew Herd wrote: > The general concept is to put an encoder on the bull gear (which has fixed > timing with respect to the stroke of the ram), use a large servo as the > drive motor (although a VFD & 3 phase motor would also work, but this > allows easy

[Emc-users] CNC Shaper Project

2023-01-26 Thread Matthew Herd
Hi all, I have been pondering a possible CNC shaper project for a while now. I have some chinese AC servos lying around and have pondered CNC on my little Atlas 7B metal shaper. I have a production application for this, so it's not entirely a fanciful project. The current solution involves CNC

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-10 Thread Robin Szemeti via Emc-users
I suspect the problem will not be the changes to LCNC, but the wrong version of the OS ... I'll have a look though, as that looks easy enough. On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 19:52, andy pugh wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 18:53, Robin Szemeti via Emc-users > wrote: > > > > I'll probably just leave

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-10 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 10, 2022 1:51:18 PM EST Ed wrote: > On 1/10/22 10:52 AM, gene heskett wrote: > >> I had a computer die that was running one of my vertical mills. I > >> changed it out by swapping HD and driver card to a different computer. > >> Works OK except at the entry point to a helix it

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-10 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 18:53, Robin Szemeti via Emc-users wrote: > > I'll probably just leave that one alone then, it spends most of its time > cutting aluminium, where it isn't a problem. I'd rather just have it > working than spend too much time re-configuring it. The changes required to go

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-10 Thread Ed
On 1/10/22 10:52 AM, gene heskett wrote: I had a computer die that was running one of my vertical mills. I changed it out by swapping HD and driver card to a different computer. Works OK except at the entry point to a helix it will give a little twitch and go on to the rotation where it will

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-10 Thread Robin Szemeti via Emc-users
I'll probably just leave that one alone then, it spends most of its time cutting aluminium, where it isn't a problem. I'd rather just have it working than spend too much time re-configuring it. On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 18:31, andy pugh wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 14:15, Robin Szemeti via

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-10 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 14:15, Robin Szemeti via Emc-users wrote: > ... I've just been typing "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" > and letting it do its thing. I assume that it installs the latest available > version for that platform. No, it will install the latest release of

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-10 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 10, 2022 9:05:01 AM EST Ed wrote: > On 1/10/22 6:35 AM, Les Newell wrote: > > How old is your copy of LCNC? I just ran your code on my plasma and it > > ran smoothly with no detectable hesitation on the transitions between > > arcs. > > > > Les > > I had a computer die that

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-10 Thread Robin Szemeti via Emc-users
The location the router is at doesn't have permanent interwebs, so it's a question of hooking up with some shonky phone/ADLS router/cables malarky ... I've just been typing "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" and letting it do its thing. I assume that it installs the latest available

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-10 Thread Ed
On 1/10/22 6:35 AM, Les Newell wrote: How old is your copy of LCNC? I just ran your code on my plasma and it ran smoothly with no detectable hesitation on the transitions between arcs. Les I had a computer die that was running one of my vertical mills. I changed it out by swapping HD and

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-10 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 12:49, Robin Szemeti via Emc-users wrote: > > It's .. hmm ... I think 2.6 ... it was installed about 5 years ago I guess, > and kept up with the occasional apt-get update/upgrade although it probably > hasn't had one in the last year or so. I can check the exact version

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-10 Thread Les Newell
I'm pretty sure the new TP was introduced in 2.7. Les On 10/01/2022 12:46, Robin Szemeti via Emc-users wrote: It's .. hmm ... I think 2.6 ... it was installed about 5 years ago I guess, and kept up with the occasional apt-get update/upgrade although it probably hasn't had one in the last year

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-10 Thread Robin Szemeti via Emc-users
It's .. hmm ... I think 2.6 ... it was installed about 5 years ago I guess, and kept up with the occasional apt-get update/upgrade although it probably hasn't had one in the last year or so. I can check the exact version next time I am in. On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 12:36, Les Newell wrote: > How

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-10 Thread Les Newell
How old is your copy of LCNC? I just ran your code on my plasma and it ran smoothly with no detectable hesitation on the transitions between arcs. Les On 10/01/2022 12:08, Robin Szemeti via Emc-users wrote: I've not built any plasmas in years :) I eventually got out of building those and

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-10 Thread Robin Szemeti via Emc-users
I've not built any plasmas in years :) I eventually got out of building those and bought myself a couple of big Trumpf lasers ... I do notice problems with the TP in the version of LCNC I run on the router, when cutting at slow speeds, you can't really notice it, but at medium speeds say, 3 or

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-10 Thread Les Newell
The TP has improved a lot in the last few years. My plasma runs on LinuxCNC and it's pretty smooth even on thin materials. HF is nasty. It gets into everything. If you can afford them, Hypertherm cutters use blow back ignition so no HF. They are very popular on CNC plasma for this reason.

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-08 Thread Rob C
like the idea with the funnel. there are no issues with the planner and look ahead. g64 options help tremendously with path blending I am just a hobby user On Sat, 8 Jan 2022, 15:47 Milosz K., wrote: > I cut near flammables and my solution is cutting over a water bed with a > slicone funnel

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-08 Thread Milosz K.
I cut near flammables and my solution is cutting over a water bed with a slicone funnel on the torch. This is a photo for illustration. https://images.app.goo.gl/cUFKnX5iMdVrHPTH6 On Fri, Jan 7, 2022, 4:45 PM Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: > Anyone used Linuxcnc with plasma torch here. > > >

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-08 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 14:27, Robin Szemeti via Emc-users wrote: > > It was some years ago when I tried it, it was fine on thicker sheet, but > not thin sheet, like I said, I expect there have been improvements in the > trajectory planner since then. There have been improvements to the TP and

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-08 Thread Robin Szemeti via Emc-users
metal >> swarf. >> > >> > On Fri, 7 Jan 2022, 21:51 Thaddeus Waldner, wrote: >> > >> > > Use a submerged torch. This will also take care of the smoke. >> > > >> > > >> > > Thaddeus Waldner >> > > Newdale School &

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-08 Thread Rob C
_________ > > > From: Nicklas SB Karlsson > > > Sent: Friday, January 7, 2022 3:13:17 PM > > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > Subject: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch > > > > > > Anyone used Linuxcnc with plasma tor

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-08 Thread Robin Szemeti via Emc-users
Karlsson > > Sent: Friday, January 7, 2022 3:13:17 PM > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch > > > > Anyone used Linuxcnc with plasma torch here. > > > > > > There is another major problem, one t

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-08 Thread Rob C
ged torch. This will also take care of the smoke. > > > Thaddeus Waldner > Newdale School > Elkton, SD 57026 > > From: Nicklas SB Karlsson > Sent: Friday, January 7, 2022 3:13:17 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [

Re: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-07 Thread Thaddeus Waldner
Use a submerged torch. This will also take care of the smoke. Thaddeus Waldner Newdale School Elkton, SD 57026 From: Nicklas SB Karlsson Sent: Friday, January 7, 2022 3:13:17 PM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma

[Emc-users] CNC controlled, plasma torch

2022-01-07 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Anyone used Linuxcnc with plasma torch here. There is another major problem, one third of building is allocated for firewood storage. Need a good way to keep sparks away from it. Nicklas Karlsson ___ Emc-users mailing list

Re: [Emc-users] cnc lathe retrofit

2020-12-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 28 December 2020 04:21:37 andrew beck wrote: > Just another little update. > > Got the spindle running. > > Then connected the existing spindle encoder up and can't see any > counting of pulses in the 7i77 encoder raw counts. > I _think_ the 7i77 has the same encoder facilities as the

Re: [Emc-users] cnc lathe retrofit

2020-12-28 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 at 09:23, andrew beck wrote: > I think I got it all right. Though I had to run it through a plug and > transfer cable signals to other colors so could have made a mistake. Sounds like a job for an oscilloscope, but you should be able to see the output change with a

Re: [Emc-users] cnc lathe retrofit

2020-12-28 Thread andrew beck
Just another little update. Got the spindle running. Then connected the existing spindle encoder up and can't see any counting of pulses in the 7i77 encoder raw counts. Would love to have a List of reasons why not. Just so I can trouble shoot it. Things I know. It is a 5v differential

Re: [Emc-users] cnc lathe retrofit

2020-12-27 Thread andrew beck
Hey everyone just read all the replies. Definitely food for thought. Andy I currently do almost exactly what you do with the e stop in my mill. I'll do something similar with the enables tying in a relay to bypass them with the e stop and then letting linuxcnc know about it On Sun, Dec 27,

Re: [Emc-users] cnc lathe retrofit

2020-12-26 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 at 21:11, Gene Heskett wrote: > No synchros in that gearbox? I'd be getting quotes to replace it with one > that did. It was built in 1916. It's perfect as it is :-) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of

Re: [Emc-users] cnc lathe retrofit

2020-12-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 26 December 2020 13:36:18 andy pugh wrote: > On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 at 16:49, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Two additional questions. That 70 ohm 300 watt braking resistor just > > walked up and rang my doorbell, so are you using one? > > I am not using one. It would be useful if I was,

Re: [Emc-users] cnc lathe retrofit

2020-12-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 26 December 2020 12:27:29 Jon Elson wrote: > On 12/26/2020 10:47 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Two additional questions. That 70 ohm 300 watt braking > > resistor just walked up and rang my doorbell, so are you > > using one? and if so what settings mods have you made in > > the VFD? >

Re: [Emc-users] cnc lathe retrofit

2020-12-26 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 at 16:49, Gene Heskett wrote: > Two additional questions. That 70 ohm 300 watt braking resistor just > walked up and rang my doorbell, so are you using one? I am not using one. It would be useful if I was, since I added on-the-fly gearshifting to the two speed box. The idea

Re: [Emc-users] cnc lathe retrofit

2020-12-26 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/26/2020 10:47 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Two additional questions. That 70 ohm 300 watt braking resistor just walked up and rang my doorbell, so are you using one? and if so what settings mods have you made in the VFD? Mine has several settings. There is a minimum frequency, below which

Re: [Emc-users] cnc lathe retrofit

2020-12-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 26 December 2020 11:23:20 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 26 December 2020 10:08:47 andy pugh wrote: [...] > I think we are on about the same page, just need to find the round > tuit. Two additional questions. That 70 ohm 300 watt braking resistor just walked up and rang my

Re: [Emc-users] cnc lathe retrofit

2020-12-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 26 December 2020 10:08:47 andy pugh wrote: > On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 at 10:00, andrew beck wrote: > > also what do people do for E stop circuits with analog systems? I > > have only used a step direction system before this > > On my lathe the main servo power supply comes via a

Re: [Emc-users] cnc lathe retrofit

2020-12-26 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 at 10:00, andrew beck wrote: > also what do people do for E stop circuits with analog systems? I have only > used a step direction system before this On my lathe the main servo power supply comes via a contactor with a 24V coil, and that coil power passes through two e-stop

Re: [Emc-users] cnc lathe retrofit

2020-12-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 26 December 2020 04:57:38 andrew beck wrote: > hey everyone > > just for your interest here is a cnc lathe I am retrofitting here in > NZ > > link to video on youtube > > still got a whole lot of work and need to sort out analog servo

[Emc-users] cnc lathe retrofit

2020-12-26 Thread andrew beck
hey everyone just for your interest here is a cnc lathe I am retrofitting here in NZ link to video on youtube still got a whole lot of work and need to sort out analog servo drive stuff tomorrow but thought I would send a email anyway also what do

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-11 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 16:28, dave engvall wrote: > I've always done this the hard way by going > back to the CAM. My brain is pretty well fried but I think a bit of > matrix algebra would do this for you. There is no need for complex maths. You can mirror a part simply by changing the sign of

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-11 Thread R C
/an origin. It makes the math in the wizard much simpler, especially when you are doing something like rotating a rectangle. Alan From: Jon Elson Subject: Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off" Date: September 10, 2020 at 9:04:23 PM CDT To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-11 Thread N
is called so that the wizard works with respect to the/an > origin. It makes the math in the wizard much simpler, especially when you are > doing something like rotating a rectangle. > > Alan > > > From: Jon Elson > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Of

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-11 Thread R C
well, I am comfortable with matrix algebra, but it's probably easier, more practical, to just do that part in freecad or so, and use a separate g code file for that. I was just wondering  what these different coordinate systems are, what they are used for. On 9/11/20 9:26 AM, dave engvall

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-11 Thread dave engvall
IIRC some controls have a switch to do this.  Also I think you can flip the sign of one axis and get a mirror image but the sense of the cut (climb/conventional) also flips so unless your machine is pretty tight dimensions may also shift. I've always done this the hard way by going back to the

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-11 Thread R C
Hello Andy, That is interesting, I should learn more about these coordinate systems.  From a math/geometry perspective  there nothing that could keep you from translating, rotating (and even more weird transformations)  a geometry into a custom one. However in an implementation, of course,

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-11 Thread Alan Condit
when you are doing something like rotating a rectangle. Alan > From: Jon Elson > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off" > Date: September 10, 2020 at 9:04:23 PM CDT > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > On 09/10/2020 08:28 PM, R

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-11 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 05:22, R C wrote: > It sounds like the coordinate systems in essence are the same, they > just have a different origin, for all the other parts, it's just the > same thing, just translated and/or rotated for another part? Yes, and there is also only rotation about the

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread R C
ah ok, It sounds like the coordinate systems in essence are the same,  they just have a different origin, for all the other parts,   it's just the same thing, just translated and/or rotated for another part? Ron On 9/10/20 8:04 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 09/10/2020 08:28 PM, R C wrote: I

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/10/2020 08:28 PM, R C wrote: I figured out the "touch off", and that it 'works' the same as homing, functionally. I wondered what all the different coordinate systems are for, their differnces. (I know what a coordinat system is, mathematician here.) This allows you to set up an

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread R C
I figured out the "touch off", and that it 'works' the same as homing, functionally. I wondered what all the different coordinate systems are for, their differnces. (I know what a coordinat system is, mathematician here.) Ron On 9/10/20 6:53 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 09/10/2020 05:59

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/10/2020 05:59 PM, R C wrote: I was just playing with it a bit, I have the idea, that , like homing is done per axis, "touching Off" is done per axis too? Yes, you should be able to select the axis that is to have its offset changed and then enter what that coordinate should be set to.

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread R C
On 9/10/20 5:49 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 10 September 2020 18:50:03 jrmitchellj wrote: On a Mill setup, touch-off only affects the Z axis. You will need to find your X0, and Y0 positions. I use the end key to bring up the dialog and set the offset. --J. Ray Mitchell Jr.

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 22:51, R C wrote: > this is probably a rookie question, but sometime when I do a "Touch > Off", the Z-position indeed becomes 0, but the X and Y are not. Then > in teh axis program, it will still go to the "first" spot where it needs > to start milling There are two

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 10 September 2020 18:59:09 R C wrote: > I was just playing with it a bit, > > > I have the idea, that , like homing is done per axis, "touching Off" > is done per axis too? > yes, and has forever here. > > thanks, > > > Ron > > On 9/10/20 4:50 PM, jrmitchellj wrote: > > On a Mill

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 10 September 2020 18:50:03 jrmitchellj wrote: > On a Mill setup, touch-off only affects the Z axis. You will need to > find your X0, and Y0 positions. I use the end key to bring up the > dialog and set the offset. > > --J. Ray Mitchell Jr. > jrmitche...@gmail.com > It works for all

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread R C
yup,  that's why I noticed too.  I thought "touch off" would be more like "this is (0, 0, 0)"  and just hit that button once... I guess I got lucky a few times. On 9/10/20 5:28 PM, Dave Matthews wrote: That is how I do it. There are three radio buttons, one for each axis. It defaults to

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread Dave Matthews
That is how I do it. There are three radio buttons, one for each axis. It defaults to the last axis moved which is usually z. Dave On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 19:01 R C wrote: > I was just playing with it a bit, > > > I have the idea, that , like homing is done per axis, "touching Off" is > done

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread R C
I was just playing with it a bit, I have the idea, that , like homing is done per axis, "touching Off" is done per axis too? thanks, Ron On 9/10/20 4:50 PM, jrmitchellj wrote: On a Mill setup, touch-off only affects the Z axis. You will need to find your X0, and Y0 positions. I

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread jrmitchellj
On a Mill setup, touch-off only affects the Z axis. You will need to find your X0, and Y0 positions. I use the end key to bring up the dialog and set the offset. --J. Ray Mitchell Jr. jrmitche...@gmail.com "Good enough is the enemy of excellence"author unknown On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 2:51

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