Re: [EVDL] want soc spread sheet

2024-03-11 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 11 Mar 2024 at 20:14, redscooter via EV wrote: > can someone make a spreadsheet What's your budget? Maybe you could hire a skilled contractor through a "microtask" website. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my

[EVDL] want soc spread sheet

2024-03-11 Thread redscooter via EV
my leaf conversion 24kw to 40 kw is not showing well on the gom and leaf spy. but I can read the voltage on leaf spy even thou SOC is not showing properly. can someone make a spreadsheet with 10%, to 95% SOC, so I can use voltage to firgure out Charge left. like near empty was 337, full

Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues

2024-03-11 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
My experience in The Netherlands was that the PE ground was provided by the utility in parallel to the Neutral and phase connections, no local bonding other than that the water pipe or the steel radiant heating pipe was bonded to the incoming ground from the utility. The only place where the

Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

2024-03-11 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
I remember that the city of Delft had its power distributed in a similar fashion as the USA, with two phases at 115V to ground and outlets wired with the two phases. Before the end of last century, when The Netherlands was also driving to eliminate all overhead wiring, even from rural areas, they

Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

2024-03-11 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
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Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

2024-03-11 Thread Steve Gaarder via EV
As I understand it, 110 volts was chosen because an arc light operates at 55 volts, and thus two of them in series would work well. I believe Europe started out at 110/120, and moved up to 220/240 to reduce the need for copper, esp. after WWII. When I lived in Europe in the 1960s, I traveled

Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

2024-03-11 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues

2024-03-11 Thread Bill Dube via EV
Most of the world outside North America, is 230-240 VAC to ground. Split single phase, 120-neutral-120, is essentially only in North America. Normal circuit breakers are only single pole and only switch the live conductor. It is not common to find a circuit breaker that cuts the neutral as

Re: [EVDL] test spread sheet

2024-03-11 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 11 Mar 2024 at 18:22, redscooter via EV wrote: > want SS for SOC Say what? David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

2024-03-11 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 11 Mar 2024 at 17:37, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > In my homes in either Netherlands or India, only the phase was > protected with a breaker. I have heard that that's the case in the UK also - breakers are single pole, and open only the hot side. Maybe branch circuit breakers are double

[EVDL] test spread sheet

2024-03-11 Thread redscooter via EV
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Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

2024-03-11 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 4:52 PM EV List Lackey via EV wrote: > Circuit breakers are always double-pole, so they open both hot and neutral. In my homes in either Netherlands or India, only the phase was protected with a breaker. Neutral was wired straight from the service entrance to the

Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

2024-03-11 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 1:35 PM Lawrence Winiarski via EV wrote: > That means our 240 has a slight advantage in that each leg is only 120v above > ground, while I think some countries have a 240 with a hot and neutralleg. The USA 240V is a split-phase system, meaning two 120V phases in 180 deg

Re: [EVDL] canbus logging, canoe?

2024-03-11 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

2024-03-11 Thread Bill Dube via EV
The consensus is that ~30mA is the threshold for a fatal shock under ordinary circumstances: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_injury and https://www.asc.ohio-state.edu/physics/p616/safety/fatal_current.html Thus, most countries pick 30 mA as the trip for GFCI (RCD). Picking a greater

[EVDL] canbus logging, canoe?

2024-03-11 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
Does anyone know what the .asc Canoe Canbus logging file format is? Or has samples of the files that I might be able to figure out? I'm working with a device via canbus, and the manufacturer won't answer ANY question unless it has a .asc or .blf log file with it. (Even questions like "What

Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

2024-03-11 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 11 Mar 2024 at 20:33, Lawrence Winiarski via EV wrote: > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think at least some of the non-us > households ONLY have 240 volts (i.e they don't bring 480 into the > panel and have split transformers like we have but rather they > groundone leg as a neutral) I don't

Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

2024-03-11 Thread Rush via EV
Lee wrote - I have many, holding down the basement floor How novel, so I if you ever want to move your house all you have to do is remove the transformers? Best regards, Rush Dougherty TucsonEV www.TucsonEV.com > -Original Message- > From: EV On Behalf Of Lee Hart via EV >

Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

2024-03-11 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Lee, I have designed EVSE so you can quote me on this: The GFI limit that (level2, AC) EV Charging Stations are designed to for the USA is 20mA. (For EU the limit is 30mA, the same limit as the standard GFCI breakers in EU, although there is an additional requirement to detect 6mA DC Current

Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

2024-03-11 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

2024-03-11 Thread Lawrence Winiarski via EV
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Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

2024-03-11 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 11 Mar 2024 at 12:05, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > As a consequence of the higher voltage, the current is lower for the > same power and where I hear a lot about electrical fires in the USA, > that is a rarity in Europe ... The higher domestic voltage also allows for more powerful

Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

2024-03-11 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Cor van de Water wrote: > my garage has a GFCI circuit. As a consequence, I cannot use > my garage to do any development work, because as soon as > I plug in one of my HP power supplies, even before I turn it on, > the heavy capacitive filtering on the AC line will trip the GFCI > because it

Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

2024-03-11 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Phil wrote: > no conductor is ever over about 160v peak-to-peak with respect to ground I agree, but with one little nit to pick. My AC line voltage is normally 120vac, and varies from about 115v to 124v depending on the current grid loading. The peak of 124vac is actually 170v; a situation that

Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

2024-03-11 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
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Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

2024-03-11 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

2024-03-11 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 10 Mar 2024 at 23:41, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > Based on what I know, [the US NEC is] one of the most rigorous codes in > the world. Agreed. I've seen some ... interesting ... wiring practices elsewhere, including Spain, Italy, France, Canary Islands, Puerto Rico, and South Korea. Some of

Re: [EVDL] Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array

2024-03-11 Thread Zeke Yewdall via EV
per solution is actually to put in a NEW main breaker of 160 amps > but almost nobody does that. > > But the reality is the code people fudge it and allow 20% but it's not > really correct. > Anyway I'm guessing this has something to do with your adding outlets to a > solar panel not

[EVDL] Conclusion: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array

2024-03-11 Thread Mark E. Hanson via EV
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Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

2024-03-11 Thread jim--- via EV
When I put my solar in about five years ago, I took the "opportunity" to replace my 100A Zinsco main panel with a 200A Siemens main panel. On the new panel, the main breaker is at the bottom of the panel and the panel was marked that it was required to hook up solar to the top of the panel

Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

2024-03-11 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
ually to put in a NEW main breaker of 160 amps > but almost nobody does that. > > > > But the reality is the code people fudge it and allow 20% but it's not > really correct. > > Anyway I'm guessing this has something to do with your adding outlets to &g

[EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

2024-03-11 Thread Bill Dube via EV
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