Re: [EVDL] Tesla might Supercharge EVs to regain 400mi in 15min for 7 credits

2014-07-28 Thread Jukka Järvinen via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla might Supercharge EVs to regain 400mi in 15min for7 credits

2014-07-28 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Bill, Mark has no interest whether it is simpler to use Hydrogen or not. He even does not care that the use of Hydrogen will increase the amount of CO2 being burned (so, it is a disaster for the environment). He is promoting Hydrogen - that is all. Look up his profile and you will understand. I u

[EVDL] EVLN: EV-West BMW M3 EV Conversions goes back to their car-guy roots

2014-07-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
‘There is nothing else like a flat torque curve,’ http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/292936/car_modification_goes_electric.html Car modification goes electric By Antony Ingram 21st July 2014 [image http://photos.evo.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_1193/car_photo_596944_7.jpg Convert

[EVDL] EVLN: Fremont, CA plant idled to retool for Tesla-X EV production

2014-07-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/58207245-79/plant-tesla-production-model.html.csp Tesla idles Calif. plant to retool for electric SUV by Alan Ohnsman | Bloomberg News Jul 21 2014 Manufacturing » The $100 million modification to produce electric crossovers. Los Angeles • Tesla Motors, the yo

Re: [EVDL] Tesla might Supercharge EVs to regain 400mi in 15min for 7 credits

2014-07-28 Thread Martin WINLOW via EV
co- funding? Range and fueling > time are two things that make the consumer think they are getting something > "less" when purchasing an EV of any type. Musk's focus is laser-like here. > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lis

Re: [EVDL] acquiring commercial l BEVs in non-compliance states

2014-07-28 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
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[EVDL] Grid tied Islanding for EV's and homes and refrigerators

2014-07-28 Thread robert winfield via EV
Already being done by Solar City. You can Island your house when the grid is down http://www.solarcity.com/residential/energy-storage On Jul 26, 2014, at 4:13 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > But, what if that plugin (EV or plug-in-hybrid) came with a built-in level-1 > (L1) outlet powere

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC?

2014-07-28 Thread Ben Goren via EV
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Re: [EVDL] acquiring commercial l BEVs in non-compliance states

2014-07-28 Thread Dennis Miles via EV
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Re: [EVDL] acquiring commercial l BEVs in non-compliance states

2014-07-28 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC?

2014-07-28 Thread Dennis Miles via EV
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[EVDL] ECN: Stanford team achieves 'holy grail' of battery design: A stable lithium anode

2014-07-28 Thread Len Moskowitz via EV
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[EVDL] Why EVs are awesome

2014-07-28 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I just looked at the total maintenance costs for my ICE vehicle (Honda Odyssey 2000) and it is just under $20,000. Grant it, I take it on long trips which I can't do with the Leaf but from a cost perspective, even if I need to replace the battery every 6-7 years in my Leaf (and it will likely

Re: [EVDL] Why EVs are awesome

2014-07-28 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla might Supercharge EVs to regain 400mi in 15min for7 credits

2014-07-28 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Mark, If I am mistaken and you do have an interest in the environment, then your words and your actions are in conflict. The fact that you are not just promoting Hydrogen but even lobby to get legislation that makes it a requirement and the environment be damned by the associated increase in CO2 ou

Re: [EVDL] acquiring commercial l BEVs in non-compliance states

2014-07-28 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
You really think that tire shops would not be working on the millions of Hybrid vehicles out there? There is no difference between the ~300V from a 2001 Prius or any other of the many Hybrid vehicles and that from a 2012 Leaf or any of the many other pure EVs. If the tire shops are not allowed to w

Re: [EVDL] acquiring commercial l BEVs in non-compliance states

2014-07-28 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
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Re: [EVDL] acquiring commercial l BEVs in non-compliance states

2014-07-28 Thread Dennis Miles via EV
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Re: [EVDL] acquiring commercial l BEVs in non-compliance states

2014-07-28 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
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Re: [EVDL] acquiring commercial l BEVs in non-compliance states

2014-07-28 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla might Supercharge EVs to regain 400mi in 15min for7 credits

2014-07-28 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
All data I have seen till now shows that emissions go up with the indroduction of H2, due to the low efficiency well-to-wheels of creating H2. So, it is considered not just a very difficult energy carrier, but also inefficient, besides being very costly in roll out. If you have data to the contrary

Re: [EVDL] Why EVs are awesome

2014-07-28 Thread Roland via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla might Supercharge EVs to regain 400mi in 15min for7 credits

2014-07-28 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] acquiring commercial l BEVs in non-compliance states

2014-07-28 Thread Dennis Miles via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Why EVs are awesome

2014-07-28 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Roland via EV wrote: One day I was in the checkout lane at Wal Mart and had the whole shopping cart fill with 1 gallon jugs of distill water that was on sale. A guy said, what do you use all that water for? I said, I run my car on this water. Add it to a secret solution of H2S04 and Ionize

Re: [EVDL] acquiring commercial l BEVs in non-compliance states

2014-07-28 Thread Dennis Miles via EV
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[EVDL] Lawn tractor conversion: lessons learned

2014-07-28 Thread Michael K Johnson via EV
I got lots of useful help here on my lawn tractor conversion project — http://www.evalbum.com/4841 — so I thought I'd post some lessons learned, both positive and negative. None of this is intended as advice for anyone else, for obvious reasons. I'm not doing everything as safely as I might! This i

Re: [EVDL] Lawn tractor conversion: lessons learned

2014-07-28 Thread Dennis Miles via EV
f or Prius or (if they are lucky) a Tesla can > sneak up on them. My motor running alone on the bench was > uncomfortably loud and I wore ear plugs for comfort when I was > breaking in the brushes while it was on the bench in the workshop. > Before the conversion, the ICE was loud

Re: [EVDL] Why EVs are awesome

2014-07-28 Thread Roland via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla might Supercharge EVs to regain 400mi in 15min for7 credits

2014-07-28 Thread Mike Nickerson via EV
https://greet.es.anl.gov/ I have looked at it in the past. One thing to look at when someone reports results of the model: Everything is configurable in the model. Make sure the assumptions about generation and usage are well understood (either left to defaults or well documented). It is ve

Re: [EVDL] Tesla might Supercharge EVs to regain 400mi in 15min for7 credits

2014-07-28 Thread Marion Hakanson via EV
I have a cousin who lives in Italy. They own a small Fiat van which runs on both methane (compressed) and regular gasoline; Apparently it costs the equivalent of $20 to fill the methane tank, and about $100 to fill the gas tank (which they'll do if they're in the hinterlands and can't find a m

Re: [EVDL] Tesla might Supercharge EVs to regain 400mi in 15min for7 credits

2014-07-28 Thread Dennis Miles via EV
Because, Marion, the fool cell gives the least pollution at the vehicle. (And the manufacturers want the carbon credits, and Is, I have been told, the refining or conversion, of methane to hydrogen, is done in an unregulated location, not in the motor vehicle.) Even with the losses in fuel conversi

Re: [EVDL] Tesla might Supercharge EVs to regain 400mi in 15min for7 credits

2014-07-28 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Because then Mark can't claim that he has zero-emissions vehicles, so he wants to convert to H2 (and lose a significant part of the energy) and that inefficient H2 will then qualify for the highest subsidies by California as "zero emissions". All the while *increasing* the CO2 emissions, compared t