Regarding government totalitarianism in Nazi terms: Carl Schmitt reasoned
that corporations have the potential to become states. If the government
doesn't keep their authority in check, they will enslave people and
government through market influence.
We're perhaps still running dominance over
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
multiplecit...@gmail.com wrote:
Regarding government totalitarianism in Nazi terms: Carl Schmitt reasoned
that corporations have the potential to become states. If the government
doesn't keep their authority in check, they will enslave
Leibniz said that space, being massless, is a nonphysical nonentity.
All that physically exists then consists of physical objects with mass-- these
together with their nonphysical mental massless representations
(as mind or will, consciousness, monads).
Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.)
On 04 Nov 2013, at 14:36, Roger Clough wrote:
Ryle's category mistake and why spacetime, to a platonist, is
contained in Mind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_mistake
This is a very subtle issue.
The term category-mistake was introduced by Gilbert Ryle in his
book The Concept of
Ternary (platonic) perception in Leibniz and Peirce
In any mental operation, it take 3 to tango.
In Leibniz, in perception brainmind operates in 3 stages:
A neuron or neurons emit an optical neve signal
Raw perception of this signal by the One and converison of this into an image
Return of the
In the meantime, the corporates are doing their best to enslave world via
the internet...
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/298-185/20253-focus-were-about-to-lose-net-neutrality-and-the-internet-as-we-know-it
On 6 November 2013 02:24, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
On Tue,
That just sounds like definitions. Do they get us anywhere useful?
On 6 November 2013 03:21, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Leibniz said that space, being massless, is a nonphysical nonentity.
All that physically exists then consists of physical objects with mass--
these
together
Yes. It proves that Leibniz was incorrect.
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 4:27 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
That just sounds like definitions. Do they get us anywhere useful?
On 6 November 2013 03:21, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Leibniz said that space, being massless, is a
The so-called Deep Net is according to this last issue of Wired is
many times bigger than the Internet we all know
and apparently almost impenetrable.
Perhaps we will all switch
to the Deep Net
http://www.rogerdavies.com/2011/06/dark-internet/
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 4:26 PM, LizR
Hi Richard,
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
The so-called Deep Net is according to this last issue of Wired is
many times bigger than the Internet we all know
and apparently almost impenetrable.
Perhaps we will all switch
to the Deep Net
Ah yes I've heard of that. Well it's the classic response to prohibition,
isn't it, to figuratively go underground?
On 6 November 2013 11:34, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
The so-called Deep Net is according to this last issue of Wired is
many times bigger than the Internet we all
OK!
Moving on.nothing to see here...!
On 6 November 2013 11:28, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes. It proves that Leibniz was incorrect.
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 4:27 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
That just sounds like definitions. Do they get us anywhere useful?
On
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:26 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
In the meantime, the corporates are doing their best to enslave world via
the internet...
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/298-185/20253-focus-were-about-to-lose-net-neutrality-and-the-internet-as-we-know-it
Net neutrality
Well more or less. If you perform a search on wiki for corporatism, it
sums it up nicely. It may be that the time for republics has passed by,
but with this statism comes a less free world. Think censorship.
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As brent meeker quoated mussolini, we can call it corporatism, or
plutocracy. The thing about nazi corporatism is that the nation becomes
the race. A belief that somehow humans rise directly out of the soil
from the land. The market influence thing seems right, hence the
triumph of crony
Try to remember, that in Russia, and China, as well as the USA, are all
partly, ruled by billionaires. People with great fortunes. Also, we
humans are like any other primate, because when some of these
billionaires do things we like, like Bill Gates, we become forgiving
and more content with
No no. But as long as you don't conflate the ideal, versus the real,
and like the marxists did, justify ever failure of their system, to it
will be perfect in the future, comrades..
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On 6 November 2013 13:59, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Try to remember, that in Russia, and China, as well as the USA, are all
partly, ruled by billionaires. People with great fortunes. Also, we humans
are like any other primate, because when some of these billionaires do
things we like, like
On 6 November 2013 14:06, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
No no. But as long as you don't conflate the ideal, versus the real, and
like the marxists did, justify ever failure of their system, to it will be
perfect in the future, comrades..
You're calling them Marxists because they paid lip service
Just a few points:
The advantage of individualism, is it reduces lemming marches, when
everyone is running in the wrong direction. Secondly, the european and
australian members here should realize that the usa has has socialized
medicine for the poor, and for the elderly, for over 50 years
There is lots of waste in federal spending, for starters. For example,
Sequestration, last January, was supposed to collapse the economy. But
what was not spoken of by the Dem Party media, was that all programs
were budgeted to rise in funding by 10 percent. With sequestration they
only rose
Marxists like BHO want people taken care of. They also want people
dependent on government servicesnso they, the pols, can have control
over the dumb serfs. And again, all the fashionable Marxists have a
bunch of crony capitalist friends to get ideas from. As far as the
state withering away,
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Subject: Re: Our Demon-Haunted World
On 6 November 2013 13:59, lt;spudboy...@aol.comgt; wrote:
Try to remember, that in Russia, and China, as well as
This could be the flaw of literature writers like Dickens and Rand. No,
as a rightist, I am extremely concerned with this crony capitalism, but
I am just acknowledging the human condition, conceding that they do
have too much powrt, and that their policies often do not benefit the
rest of us.
Well that's a challenge, but if someone has a great scheme, you would
get people to sell it to the big banks or whats called, private equity
firms. They loan the cash, for a cut in the profits. So, our idea had
better be convincing. Otherwise we get green energy concepts that
produce money
On 6 November 2013 14:44, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Marxists like BHO want people taken care of. They also want people
dependent on government servicesnso they, the pols, can have control over
the dumb serfs. And again, all the fashionable Marxists have a bunch of
crony capitalist friends to
The ideas had better be convincing because we don't have unlimited time to
sort out the mess the world is in thanks to the 'tragedy of the commons.
On 6 November 2013 14:56, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Well that's a challenge, but if someone has a great scheme, you would get
people to sell it
One needs to distinguish Fascism and Nazism. Fascism bound the nation-state into a
super-organism. Nazism added a mystic racism about blood (volk) and soil, Christianity and
anti-semitism. There were fascist political philosophers who made rational arguments for
fascism. The Nazis were a
On 11/5/2013 5:21 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Just a few points:
The advantage of individualism, is it reduces lemming marches, when everyone is running
in the wrong direction.
The disadvantage is that if the organized elite convince everyone else that they should
only act as
According to the Wired article, deep net is the tor system
invented or developed by the govt to be impenetrable
hence NSA's comment that Tor sucks.
You can read the Wired article here:
http://www.wired.com/magazine/
but the last issue is not on the net yet.
Richard
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 5:52
Not even on the deep net?
On 6 November 2013 16:15, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
According to the Wired article, deep net is the tor system
invented or developed by the govt to be impenetrable
hence NSA's comment that Tor sucks.
You can read the Wired article here:
I stay away from the dark side of the internet
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:17 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Not even on the deep net?
On 6 November 2013 16:15, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
According to the Wired article, deep net is the tor system
invented or developed by
Me too. Look what happened to Darth Vader...
On 6 November 2013 16:29, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
I stay away from the dark side of the internet
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I practice the primary mantras of all the principal religions
having been kicked out, more or less, from all of them.
But I do not practice Jediism and their mantra:
'let the force be with you'.
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:30 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Me too. Look what happened to Darth
And also distinguish Fascism from Communism. The former is bound to
nationalism as its core bonding principle; whereas communism had an
internationalist dimension and framed its core binding arguments in terms of
class... the workers of the world unite rhetoric. Communist states, in
practice, were
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On 6 November 2013 16:41, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote:
And also distinguish Fascism from Communism. The former is bound to
nationalism as its core bonding principle; whereas communism had an
internationalist dimension and framed its core binding
In the near future who knows. you may breath in some nano dust and within
minutes begin feeling a powerful compelling love for the dear leader (or
bankster) that fills you with an overriding motivation to struggle harder to
do your small part in increasing their glory. And - in this dystopic
Yeah, let's all pour hate on government and go to Somalia where there isn't any. Maybe
the reason there so many self-serving people in government is that no matter what they do
there's a big faction that hates them for it - instead of understanding the idea of
community and compromise.
Brent
On 11/5/2013 8:03 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
In the near future who knows... you may breath in some nano dust and within minutes
begin feeling a powerful compelling love for the dear leader (or bankster) that fills
you with an overriding motivation to struggle harder to do your small part
On 11/5/2013 5:38 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
There is lots of waste in federal spending, for starters. For example, Sequestration,
last January, was supposed to collapse the economy. But what was not spoken of by the
Dem Party media, was that all programs were budgeted to rise in funding by
Brent – Community compromise are noble ideals, but in practice the
exercise of power realpolitick – as it has in fact been practiced through
history – has far more to do with facilitating and providing legal cover for
predation and securing unwarranted privilege for a reigning elite… be they
Hehe. the armed populace will fare well against the array of AC-130
gunship, Apache helicopters, hunter-killer drones, armored vehicles and the
vast array of military hardware and urban counter insurgency tactics that
have been perfected in the streets of Baghdad that will and can be brought
to
A human has something like ten times as many bacteria in its body than it
does cells with human DNA. Pretty much all life forms are in fact complex
multi-species ecosystems that by and large have evolved to work together in
ways we hardly understand. To give some perspective I've read there are
On 11/5/2013 9:44 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Brent -- Community compromise are noble ideals, but in practice the exercise of power
realpolitick -- as it has in fact been practiced through history -- has far more to do
with facilitating and providing legal cover for predation and securing
On 11/5/2013 9:52 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Hehe... the armed populace will fare well against the array of AC-130 gunship, Apache
helicopters, hunter-killer drones, armored vehicles and the vast array of military
hardware and urban counter insurgency tactics that have been perfected in
On 6 November 2013 17:10, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/5/2013 8:03 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
In the near future who knows… you may breath in some nano dust and within
minutes begin feeling a powerful compelling love for the dear leader (or
bankster) that fills you with an
On 11/5/2013 11:11 PM, LizR wrote:
On 6 November 2013 17:10, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 11/5/2013 8:03 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
In the near future who knows… you may breath in some nano dust and within
minutes
begin feeling a powerful
Both, I believe. (But watch Osmosis Jones for the definitive answer.)
On 6 November 2013 19:14, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote:
A human has something like ten times as many bacteria in its body than it
does cells with human DNA. Pretty much all life forms are in fact complex
On 6 November 2013 20:25, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Yeah, I know. But it's a silly vision. Why would you want all these
drugged out brutes around. Why wouldn't you just use of biological
engineering to create animals to do labor and act as companions...Oh,
right, because it's
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