Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:24 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/9/2015 3:11 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: -- *From:* meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net meeke...@verizon.net *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday,

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2015-01-10 Thread PGC
On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 4:05:05 PM UTC+1, John Clark wrote: On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 7:22 AM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: Bruno -- he is very respectful of other people's opinions and always argues the ideas without resorting to name calling. Just yesterday

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2015-01-10 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I do not think the Uma is permitted to make peace with the Qufar (Islamic peoples/infidels) under the jurisprudence of Quaran and Soonah. For, all, Islam is the House of Peace, and the Infidels are the House of War, as in Dar es Salaam, Dar al Harb. Muslims are not permitted to make 'peace'

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: John, But trade need an environment where some force and some love are necessary. Trade without enforcement of contracts does not work. There's plenty of evidence to the contrary. Take Silk Road. By it's very

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2015-01-10 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 PGC multiplecit...@gmail.com wrote: Bruno -- he is very respectful of other people's opinions and always argues the ideas without resorting to name calling. Just yesterday Bruno called me a bigot, and it wasn't the first time. Even if he did, you called yourself

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 4:08 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Functioning anarchy would require a level of individual ethics that does not yet exist No, it's socialism that won't work unless everybody is a saint, and that's why socialist are

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread meekerdb
On 1/10/2015 2:00 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:24 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/9/2015 3:11 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 7:19 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/10/2015 2:00 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:24 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/9/2015 3:11 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: --

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Moreover, this has happened before. In China, the dynasty in the 15th century, under a form of socialism, demanded by the Emperor, enacted rules that demanded that one couldn't do any other type of work other than what their father worked, that stole monies from any up and coming merchant or

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread John Mikes
Kim, you wrote a lot of reasonable things except one: agreeable meanings of terms like 'democracy', anarchy, government, tribal- and set etc. I denied the habitual application of the 1st one, especially in Buno's term you mentioned: 1 head, 1 vote, since - as you pointed out - heads are very

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread John Mikes
(an example for a WRONG question: when the judge orders the defendant to answer only YES?/NO - he apologetically asked permission to ask a QUESTION from the judge. Granted. Tell me, did you stop cheating on your wife? Just YES/NO!!) *So you volunteered for the role of being smarter-than-me. -

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-01-10 22:10 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: John, But trade need an environment where some force and some

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread Alberto G. Corona
John, But trade need an environment where some force and some love are necessary. Trade without enforcement of contracts does not work. Neither work without some sincere love for what one does and for the well being of the client. trade without force need an utopic quantity of love. trade without

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread Alberto G. Corona
2015-01-10 22:49 GMT+01:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com: 2015-01-10 22:10 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: John, But trade need an environment where some force and some love are

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread Alberto G. Corona
2015-01-10 22:10 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: John, But trade need an environment where some force and some love are necessary. Trade without enforcement of contracts does not work.

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2015-01-10 23:12 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-01-10 22:10 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2015-01-10 Thread Jason Resch
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: On 11 Jan 2015, at 10:22 am, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, I wonder if you or anybody else on the list can explain something to me that I have never understood; why is it that in all of human

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2015-01-10 Thread LizR
On 11 January 2015 at 15:50, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: When people criticise others' faiths, firstly it hurts others feeling making the criticism fall on deaf ears. When people criticise others' faiths, it's more than feelings that get hurt.

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread meekerdb
On 1/10/2015 12:54 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 7:19 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/10/2015 2:00 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:24 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread Alberto G. Corona
2015-01-10 23:12 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-01-10 22:10 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2015-01-10 Thread Jason Resch
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 3:47 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, I wonder if you or anybody else on the list can explain something to me that I have never understood; why is it that in all of human activity religion is the one and only one that is supposed to be

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2015-01-10 Thread Kim Jones
On 11 Jan 2015, at 10:22 am, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, I wonder if you or anybody else on the list can explain something to me that I have never understood; why is it that in all of human activity religion is the one and only one that is supposed to be absolutely

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: If you and I are in a business relationship and we both make money it would be foolish of me to cheat you on a deal, I might make a little more money today but having destroyed our partnership I will have lost the money I would

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2015-01-10 Thread PGC
On Saturday, January 10, 2015 at 10:47:56 PM UTC+1, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 PGC multipl...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Bruno -- he is very respectful of other people's opinions and always argues the ideas without resorting to name calling. Just yesterday Bruno

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2015-01-10 23:49 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 , Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: But trade need an environment where some force and some love are necessary. Trade without enforcement of contracts does not work. If you and I are in a business

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread Quentin Anciaux
sh Le 11 janv. 2015 00:21, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com a écrit : On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 12:06 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-01-11 0:03 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 11:48 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread Alberto G. Corona
2015-01-10 23:52 GMT+01:00 Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com: 2015-01-10 23:49 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 , Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: But trade need an environment where some force and some love are necessary. Trade without

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2015-01-11 0:03 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 11:48 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-01-10 23:12 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2015-01-10 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, I wonder if you or anybody else on the list can explain something to me that I have never understood; why is it that in all of human activity religion is the one and only one that is supposed to be

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2015-01-10 Thread zibblequibble
On Saturday, January 10, 2015 at 1:31:05 PM UTC, PGC wrote: On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 4:05:05 PM UTC+1, John Clark wrote: On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 7:22 AM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: Bruno -- he is very respectful of other people's opinions and always argues the

RE: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2015-01-10 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR On 11 January 2015 at 15:50, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: When people criticise others' faiths, firstly it hurts others feeling making the criticism fall on deaf ears.

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 , Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: But trade need an environment where some force and some love are necessary. Trade without enforcement of contracts does not work. If you and I are in a business relationship and we both make money it would be foolish of me

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 11:48 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-01-10 23:12 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-01-10 22:10 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com:

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 12:06 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-01-11 0:03 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 11:48 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-01-10 23:12 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com:

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2015-01-10 Thread Samiya Illias
On 11-Jan-2015, at 4:22 am, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 3:47 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, I wonder if you or anybody else on the list can explain something to me that I have never understood; why is it that in all of

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread meekerdb
On 1/10/2015 6:11 PM, John Clark wrote: That is where Private Protection Agencies come in. I am not so naive as to suggest that force would never be needed in Anarcho-Capitalism, I'm just saying that less of it would be needed than in any other system I know of. For example, for our present

RE: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 11:37 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Democracy On 1/10/2015 6:11 PM, John Clark wrote: That is where Private Protection

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2015-01-10 Thread Samiya Illias
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 8:16 AM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, I wonder if you or anybody else on the list can explain something to me that I have never understood; why is it that in all of human

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 Thread meekerdb
On 1/10/2015 2:49 PM, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 , Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com mailto:agocor...@gmail.com wrote: But trade need an environment where some force and some love are necessary. Trade without enforcement of contracts does not work. If you and I are

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2015-01-10 Thread Samiya Illias
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 11:09 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto: everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *LizR On 11 January 2015 at 15:50, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com