On 01 Mar 2014, at 02:06, LizR wrote:
On 1 March 2014 03:22, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 26 Feb 2014, at 03:31, LizR wrote:
Indeed. I have mentioned at times that if you accept Yes Doctor
the rest of comp follows. Which I realise isn't quite true,
? You might elaborate on this.
On 28 Feb 2014, at 23:58, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/28/2014 2:32 PM, LizR wrote:
If it's all math, then where does math come from?
Strange to say, elementary maths just appears to be a fact. That
is, it is a fact that 1+1=2.
Or it comes from our conceptualizing the world as consisting of
On 01 Mar 2014, at 02:36, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Friday, February 28, 2014 5:32:48 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
If it's all math, then where does math come from?
Strange to say, elementary maths just appears to be a fact. That is,
it is a fact that 1+1=2.
These shapes appear to be letters
On 01 Mar 2014, at 02:18, Russell Standish wrote:
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 04:14:29PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Isn't it crazy to reject what there is enormous evidence for and
accept what there is NO evidence for?
That is what you do. There are no evidence for any universe, and
indeed,
On 01 Mar 2014, at 06:16, Chris de Morsella wrote:
If it's all math, then where does math come from?
Strange to say, elementary maths just appears to be a fact. That
is, it is a fact that 1+1=2.
Somehow I do not find that satisfying; in what way and by what
evidence does this occur?
On 01 Mar 2014, at 06:23, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Or it comes from our conceptualizing the world as consisting of
distinct
objects and counting them, c.f. William S. Cooper The Origin of
Reason and
Lakoff and Nunez Where Mathematics Comes From.
In that case math would emerge from our
On 01 Mar 2014, at 07:04, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/28/2014 9:22 PM, LizR wrote:
Nevertheless, it does seem to be. That is, 17 is a prime number
regardless of whether anyone knows it is, or even knows what
numbers are, or indeed whether anyone is even alive (e.g. it was
prime in the first
On 01 Mar 2014, at 07:16, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Personally the notion that all that exists is comp information –
encoded on what though? – Is not especially troubling for me. I
understand how some cling to a fundamental material realism; after
all it does seem so very real.
On 01 Mar 2014, at 08:39, Chris de Morsella wrote:
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Nevertheless, it does seem to be. That is, 17 is a prime number
regardless of whether anyone knows it is, or even knows what numbers
On 1 March 2014 21:03, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 01 Mar 2014, at 02:06, LizR wrote:
On 1 March 2014 03:22, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 26 Feb 2014, at 03:31, LizR wrote:
Indeed. I have mentioned at times that if you accept Yes Doctor the
rest of comp follows.
On Friday, February 28, 2014 9:48:48 PM UTC-5, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
wrote:
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
On Friday, February 28, 2014 5:32:48 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
If it's all math, then where does math come from?
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To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: If it's all math, then where does math come from?
On 01 Mar 2014, at 06:16, Chris de
On Friday, February 28, 2014 10:27:46 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
On 1 March 2014 14:36, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com javascript:wrote:
On Friday, February 28, 2014 5:32:48 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
If it's all math, then where does math come from?
Strange to say, elementary maths just
On 2 March 2014 00:00, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, February 28, 2014 10:27:46 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
On 1 March 2014 14:36, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, February 28, 2014 5:32:48 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
If it's all math, then where does math
Wee small hours in Auckland too, almost. Good night fellow mathenauts.
On 2 March 2014 00:01, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote:
I would like to respond... and thanks for getting into detail, but I need to
wait till tomorrow - it is the wee morning hour here in Seattle now.
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 3:12:49 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 01 Mar 2014, at 02:36, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Friday, February 28, 2014 5:32:48 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
If it's all math, then where does math come from?
Strange to say, elementary maths just appears to be a fact.
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 1:46:44 AM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
On 1 March 2014 19:04, meekerdb meek...@verizon.net javascript: wrote:
On 2/28/2014 9:22 PM, LizR wrote:
Nevertheless, it does seem to be. That is, 17 is a prime number
regardless of whether anyone knows it is, or even knows
On Friday, February 28, 2014 9:18:29 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote:
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:51:00AM -0500, spudb...@aol.com
javascript:wrote:
Ok, Thanks. We're back to the Observer again, where all things are
decided at the quantum. From here on the questions tumble forth as a
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 1:52:12 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 28 Feb 2014, at 03:22, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:03:15 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
On 28 February 2014 03:02, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com wrote:
In other words, why, in a
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 1:57:45 AM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
On 28 February 2014 15:22, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:03:15 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
On 28 February 2014 03:02, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com wrote:
In other words,
On Friday, February 28, 2014 3:31:25 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
On Friday, February 28, 2014, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
On Thursday, February 27, 2014 7:54:53 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
On 28 February 2014 01:05, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com wrote:
Bruno,
This is incorrect. We know truth by its consistency across scope. The
universe is consistent. A person is part of the universe. People have no
direct knowledge of the universe. They have only their internal mental
simulation of the universe. To the extent that simulation is consistent
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 8:00:54 AM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Bruno,
This is incorrect. We know truth by its consistency across scope.
How do we know consistency though? Isn't the ability to detect and
interpret consistency (through sense and sense-making) more primitive than
the
Jesse,
Of course there is a rational justification for selecting one frame over
another in many cases. All frames are NOT equal when it comes to
representing ACTUAL physical facts.
E.g. we can choose various frames to make someone's age pretty much any
number we like but nevertheless they are
Jesse,
To address your questions:
1. Yes, of course the choice of their own frame is a matter of
convention. But that does NOT mean that all frames are equal when it comes
to accurately representing some particular physical fact or relationship.
2. The their experience in my symmetric example
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Jesse,
Of course there is a rational justification for selecting one frame over
another in many cases. All frames are NOT equal when it comes to
representing ACTUAL physical facts.
E.g. we can choose various frames to
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrot
information does need a substrate in which to manifest.
That seems to be the case but perhaps not at the very lowest level.
The integers are abstract things that aren't made of anything except other
numbers and once you
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Friday, February 28, 2014 9:48:48 PM UTC-5, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
wrote:
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comwrote:
On Friday, February 28, 2014 5:32:48 PM UTC-5, Liz R
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.comwrote:
Who cares about gravimetric density?
Evidently you don't; that much is clear. The automobile companies that
are moving towards electric vehicles care - and care a lot.
Why? They care about weight and how much
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 4:07 AM, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.comwrote:
It produces 4X the energy it needs just from the solar PV on the roofs of
its buildings Isn't it amazing what you can accomplish with such dilute
sources of energy. I include the link because the pictures are
Spudboy and Liz:
I wanted to ask 'why the closed mind FOR solar?' when I detected the
original title about Germany going for it. Still a closed mind to assign
the rest to coal (fossil). All that with Liz's example of NZ (hydro). No
Windfarms? no Geotherm?
In our capitalistic ways profit is the
Bruno concluded his Feb 28 post:
*The TOE extracted from comp assumes we agree on the laws of addition and
multiplication, and on classical logic. From this you can prove the
existence of the universal numbers and or all their computations, and even
interview the Löbian numbers, on what is
Liz:
subatomic physics does not indicate anything. We created the figment
*physics* by our misunderstanding of partial phenomena into our temporary
state of mental inventory we had at the approriate time. Macro, atomic,
subatomic whatever.
JM
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:09 PM, LizR
On 2 March 2014 05:42, Jesse Mazer laserma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Jesse,
Of course there is a rational justification for selecting one frame over
another in many cases. All frames are NOT equal when it comes to
On 2 March 2014 09:28, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:
Liz:
subatomic physics does not indicate anything. We created the figment
*physics* by our misunderstanding of partial phenomena into our temporary
state of mental inventory we had at the approriate time. Macro, atomic,
subatomic
On 3/1/2014 12:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 28 Feb 2014, at 23:58, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/28/2014 2:32 PM, LizR wrote:
If it's all math, then where does math come from?
Strange to say, elementary maths just appears to be a fact. That is, it is a fact that
1+1=2.
Or it comes from our
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[mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Who cares about gravimetric density?
Evidently you don't; that much is clear. The automobile
On 3/1/2014 12:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 01 Mar 2014, at 07:04, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/28/2014 9:22 PM, LizR wrote:
Nevertheless, it does seem to be. That is, 17 is a prime number regardless of whether
anyone knows it is, or even knows what numbers are, or indeed whether anyone is even
On 2 March 2014 08:50, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:
Spudboy and Liz:
I wanted to ask 'why the closed mind FOR solar?'
If you know of a greater source of energy in our neighbourhood, let me know.
Still a closed mind to assign the rest to coal (fossil). All that with
Liz's example of
On 3/1/2014 10:04 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com
mailto:cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote:
Who cares about gravimetric density?
Evidently you don't; that much is clear. The automobile companies that
are moving
Since this thread is about Fukushima, can I just mention that if all the
power stations in the world could somehow switch to using renewables while
all vehicles in the world (bar a tiny few) continued to use fossil fuels,
that would STILL be a big boost for the environment.
With power stations
Liz,
Hmmm, that's exactly what I said. So why are you disagreeing with yourself
again? Looks like you are out of touch both with reality and English
comprehension...
Edgar
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 3:51:18 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
On 2 March 2014 05:42, Jesse Mazer laser...@gmail.com
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Jesse,
Let me ask you one simple question.
In the symmetric case where the twins part and then meet up again with the
exact same real actual ages isn't it completely logical to conclude they
must also have been the
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Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 2:00 PM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating
Since this thread is about Fukushima, can I
Occupy was a Soros funded org liz. It started with a Canadian mag call Add
Busters, and is Soros owned. It was, what the dems called an astro-turf
organization, created to react to the losses in the 2010 elections, due to us
Tea Baggers. It was the idea that the real masses were out in the
John, because those in power say that Global Warming is imminent, and the
solution is to switch to wind and solar, and shut off the dirty electrical
sources. The problem is these sources cannot yet do it. But the progressives
demand this anyway. It should not rationally matter what energy
On 2 March 2014 12:26, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
John, because those in power say that Global Warming is imminent, and the
solution is to switch to wind and solar, and shut off the dirty electrical
sources. The problem is these sources cannot yet do it. But the
progressives demand this
On 2 March 2014 11:51, Jesse Mazer laserma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Jesse,
Let me ask you one simple question.
In the symmetric case where the twins part and then meet up again with
the exact same real actual ages isn't it
On Friday, February 28, 2014 8:54:19 PM UTC, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Edgar L. Owen edga...@att.netjavascript:
wrote:
information does need a substrate in which to manifest.
That seems to be the case but perhaps not at the very lowest level. The
integers
You need to power all civilization, once the leaders shut down all the dirty
power. What can we replace it with. What do we have we have ready to go. The
leaders all global Warming, so what can we do? They say its imminent.
-Original Message-
From: LizR lizj...@gmail.com
To:
On Monday, February 24, 2014 10:57:14 PM UTC, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Ghibbsa,
I apologize, but I'm a little unsure as to what you are actually asking of
me here, but I'll try to answer.
First P-time and relativity are NOT causally isolated. A proper
interpretation of relativity actually
If one can believe TV shows, antiques dealers are a bunch of rogues hoping
to fleece old dears out of a fortune by giving them a tiny payout for some
valuable item they've kept in the attic for decades and don't realise the
true value of.
On 2 March 2014 12:34, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
On
Jesse,
To address your points in order:
1. Yes, you said that proper ages are invariant. But note the important
point that the proper age of A to himself is a direct observation (he looks
at his age clock), but to anyone else is a computation and NOT an
observation. In fact from their native
On 2 March 2014 12:18, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Occupy was a Soros funded org liz. It started with a Canadian mag call Add
Busters, and is Soros owned. It was, what the dems called an astro-turf
organization, created to react to the losses in the 2010 elections, due to
us Tea Baggers. It was
On 3/1/2014 3:31 PM, LizR wrote:
On 2 March 2014 12:26, spudboy...@aol.com mailto:spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
John, because those in power say that Global Warming is imminent, and the
solution
is to switch to wind and solar, and shut off the dirty electrical sources.
The
problem is
Liz,
Well, we already know we get your knowledge of physics from TV shows so why
not your knowledge, or lack thereof, of other subjects as well?
:-)
And you should really learn the difference between antiques and
antiquities. You just display your continuing dismal ignorance by confusing
On Saturday, March 1, 2014, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 1:57:45 AM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
On 28 February 2014 15:22, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:03:15 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
On 28 February 2014 03:02,
On Saturday, March 1, 2014, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, February 28, 2014 3:31:25 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
On Friday, February 28, 2014, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, February 27, 2014 7:54:53 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
On 28
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Occupy was a Soros funded org
Excuse my ignorance, but what is this functionalism that is supposedly
disproved by AHS?
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I like the frog and bird metaphors, though! At least I prefer the idea of
the bird looking down on the mathematical landscape than worrying about
the eye of god.
In the beginning was the Bird, to quote The Unpleasant Profession of
Jonathan Hoag.
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John, because those in power say that Global Warming is imminent, and the
solution is to switch to wind and solar, and shut off the dirty electrical
sources. The problem is these sources
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You need to power all civilization, once the
Jesse,
Yes, but what you are saying here is just that it is impossible to
unambiguously OBSERVE that the proper ages are the same. I agree. But it is
possible to unambiguously DEDUCE and CALCULATE that they MUST be the same,
which is all my theory says.
If we can use calculation and deduction
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On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 4:07 AM, Chris de Morsella
From The Dalai Lama
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/culturebox/2014/02/dalai_lama_at_a_santa
_fe_ski_resort_tells_waitress_the_meaning_of_life.single.html 's Ski Trip:
The Slate article is a pretty funny read this is its final passage; which I
think brings a certain perspective to everything
I feel there's a category error here somewhere...
I wonder what the Dalai Lama would make of Brave New World ?
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On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:18:50 PM UTC, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Jason,
This initially interesting post of course exposes fundamental flaws in its
logic and the way that a lot of people get mislead by physically impossible
thought experiments such as the whole interminable p-clone,
On 2 March 2014 16:05, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Yes Liz, I take the threat seriously, but am puzzled by the behavior of
politicians, in anticipation of the historic calamity. The actions, even by
true believers in AGW, does not compute. Secondly, why is North American,
and European CO2,
On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 01:03:39PM -0800, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/1/2014 12:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 28 Feb 2014, at 23:58, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/28/2014 2:32 PM, LizR wrote:
If it's all math, then where does math come from?
Strange to say, elementary maths just appears to be a fact.
Hello, dear, looking for a bit of multi-sense realism?
On 2 March 2014 16:35, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
heh heh heh I love this place. It's like walking through an eccentric
street market where traders call out their wares
GETCHYOUR P-TIME 2 for 1 logico-computational really real structure
On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:36:24 AM UTC, Liz R wrote:
On 2 March 2014 16:05, spudb...@aol.com javascript: wrote:
Yes Liz, I take the threat seriously, but am puzzled by the behavior of
politicians, in anticipation of the historic calamity. The actions, even by
true believers in AGW, does
On 3/1/2014 4:56 PM, LizR wrote:
http://www.philosophyexperiments.com/frankfurt/Default.aspx
Yeah, I've seen it before and I think it is misguided because it doesn't distinguish
ethical responsibility and moral responsibility. Whether Becky is morally responsible is,
in my terms, a
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Should I correct my statements to make them ideologically acceptable to
progressive minds, everywhere? Will I get a cookie if I do?
No, you won't get a cookie, but not making an ass of
On 3/1/2014 6:43 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
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On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:05:55 AM UTC, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
Yes Liz, I take the threat seriously, but am puzzled by the behavior of
politicians, in anticipation of the historic calamity. The actions, even by
true believers in AGW, does not compute. Secondly, why is North American,
On 3/1/2014 7:54 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 01:03:39PM -0800, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/1/2014 12:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 28 Feb 2014, at 23:58, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/28/2014 2:32 PM, LizR wrote:
If it's all math, then where does math come from?
Strange to say,
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 7:42:13 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
On Saturday, March 1, 2014, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 1:57:45 AM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
On 28 February 2014 15:22, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday,
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 7:48:42 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
On Saturday, March 1, 2014, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
On Friday, February 28, 2014 3:31:25 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
On Friday, February 28, 2014, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com wrote:
On
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 7:56:15 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
Excuse my ignorance, but what is this functionalism that is supposedly
disproved by AHS?
Functionalism, as I see it, is the philosophy that consciousness is purely
a byproduct of specific functions, either physical or mathematical
On 2 March 2014 18:19, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:05:55 AM UTC, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
Yes Liz, I take the threat seriously, but am puzzled by the behavior of
politicians, in anticipation of the historic calamity. The actions, even by
true believers in AGW, does
I agree. I found that the way the tests were proposed (there are loads of
them, and I tried quite a few) tended to catch you out by making you
respond as you would, say, at a party - not thinking it through deeply when
you're asked something like If someone went around murdering children,
should
On 3/1/2014 10:12 PM, LizR wrote:
On 2 March 2014 18:19, ghib...@gmail.com mailto:ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:05:55 AM UTC, spudb...@aol.com
mailto:spudb...@aol.com
wrote:
Yes Liz, I take the threat seriously, but am puzzled by the behavior of
On 2 March 2014 19:35, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Robert Heinlein, with whom he shared a house for a while, made a bar bet
with him that he couldn't create a religion after Hubbard had remarked that
was the way to get *really* rich.
Ah, thank you, I have to rely on 30 year old
Speaking of which, Heinlein would have loved this:
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap140302.html
On 2 March 2014 19:45, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 March 2014 19:35, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Robert Heinlein, with whom he shared a house for a while, made a bar bet
with him
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On 01 Mar 2014, at 07:16, Chris de
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Speaking of which, Heinlein would have loved this:
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap140302.html
I grok that
One of the best words ever invented* - IMO -thank you Heinlein.
Chris
I have a friend who's daughter was leaving home in California to attend a university on
the east coast. On her last day, she and her daughter took a walk on the beach to talk
and enjoy the sunset together. It was a beautiful display of reds and yellows.
Daughter: I'm going to miss this.
On 2 March 2014 19:57, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote:
Okay that one stretched my brain like a balloon as it waved trough my
neural net. What if one admits the possibility retro-causality? Physicist
as eminent as Wheeler Feynman have speculated on it and Huw Price has
On 1 March 2014 01:40, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
If you start with the assumption that the physics relevant to brain
function is not computable then computationalism is false: it would be
impossible to make a machine that behaves like a human, either zombie
or conscious.
I
On 3/1/2014 10:59 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
*From:*everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *LizR
Speaking of which, Heinlein would have loved this:
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap140302.html
I grok that
One of the best words ever invented*
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