On 17 Dec 2013, at 15:37, Stephen Paul King wrote:
Hi Jason,
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com
wrote:
Truth. Truth =/= Proof.
Ummm, as I see things: Proof =
On 17 Dec 2013, at 19:32, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/17/2013 1:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Dec 2013, at 22:14, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/16/2013 12:40 PM, LizR wrote:
On 17 December 2013 08:06, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
JKC makes a big point of the complete separation of quantum
On 17 Dec 2013, at 19:43, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/17/2013 1:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 17 Dec 2013, at 00:58, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/16/2013 2:05 PM, LizR wrote:
On 17 December 2013 10:43, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Is that another way of saying you don't think Arithmetical
On 17 Dec 2013, at 19:55, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/17/2013 1:51 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 17 Dec 2013, at 02:03, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/16/2013 4:41 PM, LizR wrote:
On 17 December 2013 13:07, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
In a sense, one can be more certain about arithmetical
On 18 Dec 2013, at 00:30, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/17/2013 11:39 AM, LizR wrote:
On 18 December 2013 07:32, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
But I don't have to believe true=exists.
It seems to me this parallels your comment that the difference
between maths and matter is that we can
It's not just equal rights, its the improvement in living standards that seem
to do it (co-mingled with women's rights). I side with Matt Ridley completely,
on this. Ridley's an author, and really accurate, I believe.
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On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Acording to Bruno Marchal's terminology you will see only one city
and one city only; and you will see both Washington and Moscow;
therefore Bruno Marchal's terminology is inconsistent in the one pee, two
pee, three
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/18 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
2013/12/17 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 9:02 PM,
2013/12/18 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Acording to Bruno Marchal's terminology you will see only one city
and one city only; and you will see both Washington and Moscow;
therefore Bruno Marchal's terminology is
On 18 Dec 2013, at 01:13, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/17/2013 4:09 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:55 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
I'll favor it as soon as it provides some surprising but
empirically true predictions - the same standard as for every other
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/18 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
2013/12/18 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:46 PM,
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:15 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 18 December 2013 00:34, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
And the policy is generally adjusted to try produce small, but positive
inflation. This is because deflation is considered unstable. Inflation
is
stable
On 18 Dec 2013, at 16:32, John Clark wrote:
It's Bruno Marchal not John Clark who throws around personal
pronouns like confetti in philosophical discussions about personal
identity.
You are the one not taking into account the 1p and 3p distinction, and
when you do, concludes trivial,
On 18 Dec 2013, at 09:47, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Depends on the problem you're considering, I think it can lead to a
society with more individual freedoms, for example.
I don't think it can... can you give argument how bitcoin would
achieve that ?
Bitcoin was not deflationist at the
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
You are the one not taking into account the 1p and 3p distinction,
For several years now Bruno Marchal has accused John Clark of that, but
John Clark would maintain that there is not a single person on the face of
the
On 18 Dec 2013, at 17:44, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:15 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 18 December 2013 00:34, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com
wrote:
And the policy is generally adjusted to try produce small, but
positive
inflation. This is because
2013/12/18 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 18 Dec 2013, at 09:47, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Depends on the problem you're considering, I think it can lead to a
society with more individual freedoms, for example.
I don't think it can... can you give argument how bitcoin would achieve
that
For someone who demands to be quoted in full, you sure cherry-picked pieces
from Bruno's e-mail. How telling it is that you erased the following
questions:
Bruno: The question is: is it enough correct so that you would please us in
answering step 4. If not: what is incorrect.
John Clark: (No
On 19 December 2013 08:01, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/18 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 18 Dec 2013, at 09:47, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Depends on the problem you're considering, I think it can lead to a
society with more individual freedoms, for example.
I don't
On 19 December 2013 08:05, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
For someone who demands to be quoted in full, you sure cherry-picked
pieces from Bruno's e-mail. How telling it is that you erased the
following questions:
Bruno: The question is: is it enough correct so that you would
That looks familiar. Have you posted it before?
(Or maybe I just saw a cartoon like it once...)
Because when you consider it, there are really only a few jokes, and some
can be considered as basically just elaborations of simpler ones.
...skipping to the end, Jerry whacks Tom with a frying pan
Hi LizR,
I would like to say that as a philosopher I have one problem with
Bruno's assumptions: There is no explanation for how any form of change and
interaction obtains. This is the main problem that I have with Plato's
theory of Forms, and since Bruno's seems to be using a concept
On 19 December 2013 09:57, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.comwrote:
Hi LizR,
I would like to say that as a philosopher I have one problem with
Bruno's assumptions: There is no explanation for how any form of change and
interaction obtains. This is the main problem that I have
2013/12/18 LizR lizj...@gmail.com
On 19 December 2013 08:01, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/18 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 18 Dec 2013, at 09:47, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Depends on the problem you're considering, I think it can lead to a
society with more
No, LizR. I reject the Laplacean vision that is used to interpret the
mathematical theories. SR, GR and QM, as mathematical models, are immune
from my critique. Newtonian mechanics, while a useful tool to use to build
bridges and rockets, is problematic as it implies the Laplacean vision of
the
On 19 December 2013 10:11, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.comwrote:
No, LizR. I reject the Laplacean vision that is used to interpret the
mathematical theories. SR, GR and QM, as mathematical models, are immune
from my critique. Newtonian mechanics, while a useful tool to use to
On 19 December 2013 10:09, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/18 LizR lizj...@gmail.com
On 19 December 2013 08:01, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/18 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 18 Dec 2013, at 09:47, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Depends on the problem
If this is a proof of the falsity of mechanism, is there any chance of a
precis? :-)
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On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/18 LizR lizj...@gmail.com
On 19 December 2013 08:01, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/18 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 18 Dec 2013, at 09:47, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Depends on the
Le 18 déc. 2013 22:31, LizR lizj...@gmail.com a écrit :
On 19 December 2013 10:09, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/18 LizR lizj...@gmail.com
On 19 December 2013 08:01, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/18 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 18 Dec 2013,
Le 18 déc. 2013 22:37, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com a écrit :
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
2013/12/18 LizR lizj...@gmail.com
On 19 December 2013 08:01, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/18 Bruno Marchal
Hi LizR,
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 4:28 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19 December 2013 10:11, Stephen Paul King
stephe...@provensecure.comwrote:
No, LizR. I reject the Laplacean vision that is used to interpret the
mathematical theories. SR, GR and QM, as mathematical models, are
On 19 December 2013 10:44, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
Le 18 déc. 2013 22:37, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com a écrit :
This is often repeated but not true. The blockchain can be truncated
and old transaction discarded.
What about the remaining of what I said?
In that
Le 18 déc. 2013 23:21, LizR lizj...@gmail.com a écrit :
On 19 December 2013 10:44, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
Le 18 déc. 2013 22:37, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com a écrit :
This is often repeated but not true. The blockchain can be truncated
and old transaction
On 19 December 2013 10:45, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.comwrote:
Hi LizR,
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 4:28 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19 December 2013 10:11, Stephen Paul King
stephe...@provensecure.comwrote:
No, LizR. I reject the Laplacean vision that is used to
On 19 December 2013 11:24, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
This is often repeated but not true. The blockchain can be truncated
and old transaction discarded.
What about the remaining of what I said?
In that case, too, the blockchain was truncated and the old transaction
On 12/18/2013 1:05 PM, LizR wrote:
On 19 December 2013 09:57, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com
mailto:stephe...@provensecure.com wrote:
Hi LizR,
I would like to say that as a philosopher I have one problem with Bruno's
assumptions: There is no explanation for how
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:31 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19 December 2013 10:09, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/18 LizR lizj...@gmail.com
On 19 December 2013 08:01, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/18 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 18 Dec
Hi LizR,
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 5:31 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19 December 2013 10:45, Stephen Paul King
stephe...@provensecure.comwrote:
Hi LizR,
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 4:28 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19 December 2013 10:11, Stephen Paul King
Kevin Knuth's talk: http://pirsa.org/10050054/
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Stephen Paul King
stephe...@provensecure.com wrote:
Hi LizR,
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 5:31 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19 December 2013 10:45, Stephen Paul King
stephe...@provensecure.comwrote:
Hi
On 19 December 2013 08:32, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
If this is a proof of the falsity of mechanism, is there any chance of a
precis? :-)
The argument has been restated with elaboration by Penrose, and has
been extensively criticised.
http://www.iep.utm.edu/lp-argue/
--
Stathis
On 19 December 2013 12:13, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
All the transactions that occurred so far are registered in a file
that is shared between the nodes in the network. New transactions are
broadcast to many nodes.
One of these nodes is going to be lucky enough to find a
On 19 December 2013 12:13, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/18/2013 1:05 PM, LizR wrote:
On 19 December 2013 09:57, Stephen Paul King
stephe...@provensecure.comwrote:
Hi LizR,
I would like to say that as a philosopher I have one problem with
Bruno's assumptions: There
On 12/18/2013 3:16 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
My point is not about any kind of specialness, *the same condition follows for any
frame that is consistent with the math*. There is no such thing, mathematically, as a
view from nowhere or, equivalently, for a god's eye point of view. God is
Calling a sequential ordering of events time does not make a sequence of
events spring into being. It may in our heads but the physical world
doesn't work that way... Time would emerge right along with space from
interactions between events. We do not need to specify the space and time
before
On 19 December 2013 12:16, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.comwrote:
What else is a mathematical theory, such as SR, GR and QM, for but to
...perform
a particular calculation? This is the problem, we figure out ways to make
ourselves believe that we can know all that there is to
On 12/18/2013 3:51 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
Calling a sequential ordering of events time does not make a sequence of events spring
into being.
?? Calling a large grey pachyderm an elephant does not make a large grey pachyderm spring
into being either - but on the other hand it was already
On 19 December 2013 12:51, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.comwrote:
Calling a sequential ordering of events time does not make a sequence of
events spring into being. It may in our heads but the physical world
doesn't work that way... Time would emerge right along with space from
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Stephen Paul King
stephe...@provensecure.com wrote:
No, LizR. I reject the Laplacean vision that is used to interpret the
mathematical theories. SR, GR and QM, as mathematical models, are immune
from my critique.
Special Relativity leaves no room for this,
Ever attempt to do a particular calculation with an actual infinite
dimensional Hilbert space? Why not? Sure, you can mod out (using symmetries
and other tricks) all of the infinite dimensions except some finite subset,
but that is the act that introduces the bias that I am pointing at! The
On 19 December 2013 13:24, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
Consider this: If there were two present moments one day apart, that
moved along in parallel, would you have any way of knowing? Then what if
there were a million co-moving presents? Then what if all present moment's
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 6:55 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19 December 2013 12:16, Stephen Paul King
stephe...@provensecure.comwrote:
What else is a mathematical theory, such as SR, GR and QM, for but to
...perform
a particular calculation? This is the problem, we figure out ways
On 12/18/2013 4:27 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
Ever attempt to do a particular calculation with an actual infinite dimensional
Hilbert space?
Sure.
Why not? Sure, you can mod out (using symmetries and other tricks) all of the infinite
dimensions except some finite subset,
You can
On 19 December 2013 13:35, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.comwrote:
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 6:55 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19 December 2013 12:16, Stephen Paul King
stephe...@provensecure.comwrote:
What else is a mathematical theory, such as SR, GR and QM, for but
Hi Brent,
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:01 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/18/2013 4:27 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
Ever attempt to do a particular calculation with an actual infinite
dimensional Hilbert space?
Sure.
Why not? Sure, you can mod out (using symmetries
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