On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 5:58 PM wrote:
*> There have been many deaths, unexpected, with those who are young, and*
> [blah blah blah]
>
I repeat, the statistics couldn't be clearer, those who believe in your
philosophy regarding vaccination and that of DeSantis tend to die, and
those who believe
. She blinded me with science, She
did it with technology!
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On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 5:22 PM wrote:
> Attack
There are plenty of reputable researchers and MDs who have raised concerns
over the safety of mRNA nanoparticles as a delivery vehicle; it's not
necessary to go to the Epoch times to find these concerns, and it's not a
conspiracy theory.
It is pretty clear at this point that the nanoparticles in
foremost, and use politics to
finance worthy, yummy projects.
Oh yeah, and Merry Strominger-mas to you! Carols forthcoming
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On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 5:22 PM wrote:
*> Attacking DeSantis will gain you nothing since* [blah blah blah]
Let's cut through the bullshit and get to the core of the matter, and
that's easy to do because the statistics couldn't be clearer, those who
believe in your philosophy regarding
On 12/17/2022 2:01 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
It does not in any case explore the notion of vaccines causing harm to
people who would have lived without the jab?
That was "explored" by vaccinating a few thousand volunteers before
approval of public release by the FDA.
I go
m the "Politics sucks, its technology that helps us.
Choir?" You may want to sit this one out Master Clark?
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On Sat, Dec 17,
On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 5:01 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <
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* > I go with the science on this because it is a fair medical question. So
> does DeSantis. *
And DeSantis believes that the right people to do science are lawyers and
right wing political
On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 7:20 AM Lawrence Crowell <
goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote:
*> Please, you cite the Epoch Times, which is a pure propagandist rag.
> Nobody with a credible argument cites them.*
Spudboy is very fond of spewing out lots and lots of citations, but
typically none of
that politicians are
> bribe-worth by those who Fund the science.
>
> Why are so many young dropping dead? it's a reasonable question.
>
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ther new study, this one by the National Bureau of
Economic Research, finds that between March 2020 to December 202 in
Florida (where DeSantis is the governor) and Ohio, there was a 76%
higher COVID death rate among Republicans than Democrats. And to this
day 20% of the US population has not receiv
dead? Causes? Lets find out.
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On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 11:52 AM spudboy100 via Everything List
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> There is real concern among m
he thought it would help him become more popular with the
Republican death cult, and it probably will.
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I would be interested to know if anybody can find a connection or a pattern of
some sort between these 5 recent stories.
1) A new scientific study found that in the US the Covid-19 vaccine has saved
more than 3.2 million lives and kept more than 18.5 million people out
s the governor) and Ohio, there was a 76% higher COVID death rate
among Republicans than Democrats. And to this day 20% of the US population
has not received one single Covid shot, and almost all of them are members
of the Republican death cult.
EXCESS DEATH RATES FOR REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS DURI
On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 7:41 PM wrote:
*> You are ignoring the funders of the democratic party, Wall Street execs.
> These are the woke boards of directors laying down bribe money for
> campaigns.*
>
That is just the standard Mickey Mouse level of corruption that has been
going on for the last
don't know how to fix this problem.
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On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 1:46 AM spudboy100
led them Stews. As in to stew in a hot bath.
> Scatalogically speaking that is.
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>
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lims they encountered. The British of centuries past called
them Stews. As in to stew in a hot bath. Scatalogically speaking that is.
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eria always remained
> (or evolved into) bacteria, so did all other species. Species continuity is
> the rule.
>
>Death of necessity has to follow life. What is the cause of death? Life
> cannot be an answer. What is the cause of life? What is more rational,
> aseity of LIFE
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Subject: RE: [Consciousness-Online] FW: The correlation between belief in Trump
and death
[Philip Benjamin]
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/
As of January 2021 "The Evil" Administration's "EVIL&q
nor in the living. Bacteria always
remained (or evolved into) bacteria, so did all other species. Species
continuity is the rule.
Death of necessity has to follow life. What is the cause of death? Life
cannot be an answer. What is the cause of life? What is more rational, aseity
of LIFE or of
On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 6:40 PM wrote:
*> and there is lack of sufficient evidence (going by your explanation) is
> that Trumpo is so stupid, that he cannot even perform a proper, Coup d'
> Etat.*
There is an ocean of evidence that Trump is dumb as a brick, and months
before the 2016 election
tal Groups $$$
And you call yourself a capitalist!!! Tsk!
May Yog Sothoth forgive you.
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Natural selection in action.
Brent
On 6/9/2022 8:38 AM, John Clark wrote:
In looking over the Internet I found so
On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 3:08 PM wrote:
*> I know lots and lots of conservatives who took the vaxes. I had vax 4
> Pfizer a month ago.*
>
I provide statistics, in rebuttal you provide personal anecdotes. And I
don't know what the word "conservative" means anymore, at one time it meant
somebody
Natural selection in action.
Brent
On 6/9/2022 8:38 AM, John Clark wrote:
In looking over the Internet I found some interesting statistics. At
the start of the Covid epidemic, before the vaccine was invented, the
death rate for black Americans was much higher than that of white
Americans
k!
Rock on JC, Rock on!
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From: John Clark
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Sent: Thu, Jun 9, 2022 11:38 am
Subject: The correlation between belief in Trump and death
In looking over the Internet I found some interesting statistics. At the start
of the Covid epidemic
In looking over the Internet I found some interesting statistics. At the
start of the Covid epidemic, before the vaccine was invented, the death
rate for black Americans was much higher than that of white Americans, but
that is no longer true; today the death rate for white Americans is 14%
higher
> On 30 Sep 2020, at 14:37, John Clark wrote:
>
> In a civilized place like Washington State it is legal for a terminally ill
> person to end their life If they decide to do so. An ALCOR member decided to
> do just that and employees of that organization we're on hand when he died to
> make
In a civilized place like Washington State it is legal for a terminally ill
person to end their life If they decide to do so. An ALCOR member decided
to do just that and employees of that organization we're on hand when he
died to make sure he could immediately get the best possible preservation.
58,220 Americans died in the entire Vietnam War of all causes not just from
combat, and as of right now August 19 at 11:13 GMT 175,092 Ameracans have
died of COVID-19, just over 3 times as many. And this all happened since
March.
John K Clark
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Afghanistan wars combined. And right now, on Saturday April 4 at 16:08 GMT
7847 have die from it, and the US only had its first COVID-19 death on
March 1.
Only 2 countries in the world have a higher number of COVID-19 deaths than
the US, Italy and Spain. Italy's number of deaths is doubling every 10
anesthesia (at least due to propofol).
>> However, large scale network integration is lost. So I don't think general
>> anesthesia is very similar to death at the neural level at all.-
>> http://www.pnas.org/content/109/49/E3377?etoc=
>> <http://www.pnas.org/content/109/
propofol). However, large scale network integration is lost. So I don't
> think general anesthesia is very similar to death at the neural level at
> all.- http://www.pnas.org/content/109/49/E3377?etoc=
>
>
*It does show that time must be a trivial property of the universe if
shutting
sia is very similar to death at the neural
level at all.- http://www.pnas.org/content/109/49/E3377?etoc=
On a different note. I have read some of the discussion and
literature about computation and consciousness on various fora. There
is a school of thought that matter does not actually ex
.
The theory implies that death of consciousness simply does not exist.
It only exists as a thought because people identify themselves with
their body. They believe that the body is going to perish, sooner or
later, thinking their consciousness will disappear too. If the body
generates consciousness
itself. Extraordinary evidence and all that. Secondly, the American libertarian
philosopher at Harvard, guess that, at the moment of death, human minds move
out orthogonally, to become new universe. So, we are all proto-universes, in
the late, professor's view.
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with shells.” meaning that when the shell
comes off (space and time), we still exist.
The theory implies that death of consciousness simply does not exist.
It only exists as a thought because people identify themselves with
their body. They believe that the body is going to perish, sooner or
later
tools
of our animal understanding. Lanza says that we carry space and time
around with us “like turtles with shells.” meaning that when the shell
comes off (space and time), we still exist.
The theory implies that death of consciousness simply does not exist.
It only exists as a thought
On 27 Nov 2013, at 14:11, Roger Clough wrote:
The death of analytic philosophy and the birth of consciousness
Consciousness, which is experience by the first person singular,
is by definition outside of the scope of analytic philosophy, which
is limited to be able to only deal in descriptions
The death of analytic philosophy and the birth of consciousness
Consciousness, which is experience by the first person singular,
is by definition outside of the scope of analytic philosophy, which
is limited to be able to only deal in descriptions of experience.
Definition of ANALYTIC
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 6:38 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
**
Frank Tipler, before he became a convinced Christian,
You means before he went completely nuts. Today Tipler says we should look
for divine DNA on the Shroud of Turin and check for radiation around the
tomb of the Blessed Virgin
On 20 May 2013, at 01:55, meekerdb wrote:
On 5/19/2013 3:38 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Frank Tipler, before he became a convinced Christian, has proposed
exactly this resurrection as a a computer process, in the far
future, and basically faced this ostracism, and still does, by his
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Subject: Re: A speculation on life after death and ghosts in Leibniz's
metaphysics.
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Frank
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On 5/19/2013 3:38 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Frank Tipler, before he became a convinced Christian, has proposed exactly
On 5/19/2013 11:49 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 20 May 2013, at 01:55, meekerdb wrote:
On 5/19/2013 3:38 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Frank Tipler, before he became a convinced Christian, has proposed exactly this
resurrection as a a computer process, in the far future, and basically faced
Frank Tipler, before he became a convinced Christian, has proposed exactly
this resurrection as a a computer process, in the far future, and
basically faced this ostracism, and still does, by his physicist chums. Pretty
much nobody has followed in his foot steps (who wants a career at a
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 06:38:59PM -0400, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Frank Tipler, before he became a convinced Christian, has proposed exactly
this resurrection as a a computer process, in the far future, and
basically faced this ostracism, and still does, by his physicist chums.
Pretty
On 5/19/2013 3:38 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Frank Tipler, before he became a convinced Christian, has proposed exactly this
resurrection as a a computer process, in the far future, and basically faced this
ostracism, and still does, by his physicist chums.
That's overstated. He still gets
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From: Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net
Sent: Thu, May 9, 2013 6:06 pm
Subject: A speculation on life after death and ghosts in Leibniz's metaphysics.
A speculation on life after death and ghosts in Leibniz's metaphysics.
I have found from one of Leibniz's letters
that each monad also
Leibniz, you'll probably come up with one
of my postings. I'm sort of famous in that respect.
Life after death.
Just email your *.doc file or better yet export as a *.pdf.
I'm not clear yet about the copyright issue.
Certainly it's not problem if it's not copyrighted
by a third party
Life and death in a world of good and evil
Although God is all-powerful in Heaven, where there is no death,
down here, where death is ever present, God must try to pilot us
through sometimes rough waters, in which his options are more
limited. Down here, good and evil -- life and death
systems) -
- and even sudden death.
These interactions can take place many hours after grapefruit (or grapefruit
juice) is consumed,
and even just a single grapefruit or glass of grapefruit juice a day can spell
trouble if you?e
taking one of these drugs..
Those of us older than 45
On 23 May 2011, at 20:33, meekerdb wrote:
This may be of interest:
http://www.happinessinthisworld.com/2011/05/15/the-neurology-of-near-death-experiences/#more-7165
Interesting indeed. Of course the author use naïve brain-mind identity
thesis to talk like if the mind-body problem has been
This may be of interest:
http://www.happinessinthisworld.com/2011/05/15/the-neurology-of-near-death-experiences/#more-7165
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have Bf and Bf-f, so by the rule of modus ponens
(worlds obey classical logic) we would have f in dead-end, but f is
false in all world!
Note that a characteristic formula of the near death multiverse was
(~Bf - ~B(~Bf)), with the D modality, you can write it Dt - DBf,
which you can read
Le 17-juil.-05, à 11:07, Stathis Papaioannou wrote :
Bruno,
There's a lot to digest in this post.
Take your time. No problem.
I should clarify that in my original post I had in mind two different
usages of the word death. One is what happens to you in destructive
teleportation: you
Bruno,
There's a lot to digest in this post. I should clarify that in my original
post I had in mind two different usages of the word death. One is what
happens to you in destructive teleportation: you vanish at one set of
spacetime coordinates, then reappear in almost exactly the same
I clarify and progress a little bit. Then I jump a little bit.
(Sorry for quoting myself)
OBJECTION?
Ah! but Lee could have build an objection by saying that in Stathis'
theory we die, or can die, at each instant, or at each teleportation
experiment. He told us this in its death thread
Hi,
In this post I will try to make clearer my argument with Lee by using a
minimal amount of modal logic (and so it's good revision ;)
Then I will explain how Stathis seems to have (re)discovered, in its
DEATH thread, what I call sometime The Smallest Theory of Life and
Death, or Near
Le 22-juin-05, à 15:05, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit :
Hal Finney writes:
I was trying to use Stathis' terminology when I wrote about the
probability of dying. Actually I am now trying to use the ASSA and I
don't have a very good idea about what it means to specify a
subjective
next moment.
Hal Finney writes:
I was trying to use Stathis' terminology when I wrote about the
probability of dying. Actually I am now trying to use the ASSA and I
don't have a very good idea about what it means to specify a subjective
next moment. I think ultimately it is up to each OM as to what it
Bruno Marchal writes:I will keep reading your posts hoping to make sense of it. Still I was about asking you if you were assuming the "multiverse context" or if you were hoping to extract (like me) the multiverse itself from the OMs. In which case, the current answer seems still rather hard to
Bruno Marchal wrote:
Then in another post you just say:
It's a bit hard for me to come up with a satisfactory answer to this
problem, because I don't start from the assumption of a physical universe
at all--like Bruno, I'm trying to start from a measure on observer-moments
and hope that
Bruno Marchal writes:
Le 20-juin-05, =E0 18:16, Hal Finney a =E9crit :
That's true, from the pure OM perspective death doesn't make sense
because OMs are timeless. I was trying to phrase things in terms of
the observer model in my reply to Stathis. An OM wants to preserve
the measure
that anything unusual had happened.
How could the fact that B was present a day, a minute or a microsecond
before A's death make any difference to A? All that matters is that B is in
the correct state to provide continuity of consciousness when A is killed.
Conversely, A and A's death cannot
Le 19-juin-05, à 15:52, Hal Finney a écrit :
I guess I would say, I would survive death via anything that does not
reduce my measure.
But if the measure is absolute and is bearing on the OMs, and if that
is only determined by their (absolute) Kolmogorov complexity (modulo a
constant
is there to provide the
successor OM, and A need not even know that anything unusual had
happened.
How could the fact that B was present a day, a minute or a microsecond
before A's death make any difference to A? All that matters is that B is
in
the correct state to provide continuity of consciousness when
Bruno Marchal writes:
Le 19-juin-05, =E0 15:52, Hal Finney a =E9crit :
I guess I would say, I would survive death via anything that does not
reduce my measure.
But if the measure is absolute and is bearing on the OMs, and if that=20
is only determined by their (absolute) Kolmogorov
state at the moment of death be
duplicated somewhere. This is what is supposed to happen with teleportation:
the subject is destructively analysed, killing him in the process, then the
information sent to a receiving station where an exact (or close enough)
copy of the subject is constructed from
Hal Finney writes:
God creates someone with memories of a past life, lets him live for a
day, then instantly and painlessly kills him.
What would you say that he experiences? Would he notice his birth and
death? I would generally apply the same answers to the 10^100 people
who undergo
Stathis Papaioannou writes:
Yes; hence, everyone is immortal. But leaving that much-debated issue aside
for now, I'm not sure that I understand what, if anything, you would accept
as a method of surviving the death of your physical body. Would you consider
that scanning your brain
Hal Finney writes:
I guess I would say, I would survive death via anything that does not
reduce my measure. If I am stopped here, I should be started over there,
or back then, or when such-and-such happens. If my measure is conserved
then I can be happy. If it can be increased, I
Hal Finney writes:
God creates someone with memories of a past life, lets him live for a
day, then instantly and painlessly kills him.
What would you say that he experiences? Would he notice his birth and
death? I would generally apply the same answers to the 10^100 people
who undergo your
At 10:55 AM 6/18/2005, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
(snip)
The above mechanism would still work even if, as in my thought experiment,
there were 10^100 exact copies running in lockstep and all but one died.
Each one of the 10^100-1 copies would experience continuity of
consciousness through
Stathis Papaioannou writes:
Hal Finney writes:
God creates someone with memories of a past life, lets him live for a
day, then instantly and painlessly kills him.
What would you say that he experiences? Would he notice his birth and
death? I would generally apply the same answers
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Should one make decisions based on objective or subjective consequences of
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