For some lifestreams the saying Brahman is the charioteer goes down as
Brahman is the chauffer of a Lincoln Navigator Super stretch limo that
includes computer controlled dish antenna TV on a 30 inch lcd screen
with wet bar, refrigator, microwave and lovely attendants to make all
life smooth and
--- tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote:
For other lifestreams the limo and the chariot
get left in the garage and Brahman shows up with the bridle, bit,
saddle, spurs and whips and you can guess who is the steed.
Let's leave the kink at home, Tom, or we'll be back on
the adults only
--- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For some lifestreams the saying Brahman is the charioteer goes down as
Brahman is the chauffer of a Lincoln Navigator Super stretch limo that
includes computer controlled dish antenna TV on a 30
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff
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jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
w, I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yup. It's also *still identification*. In the
Buddhist paradigm, the goal is to identify with
*no* point of view or state of attention, but
to transcend them all and identify with *nothing*.
Not identifying with
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
Yup. It's also *still identification*. In the
Buddhist paradigm, the goal is to identify with
*no* point of view or state of attention, but
to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
Yup. It's also *still identification*. In the
Buddhist paradigm, the goal is to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
You seem to be taking this very personally, while I simply
try to elucitate the principles. For me this is an answer
to the thoughts and ideas you bring
Barry,
you are far to heated, and I don't want to bore the audience here with
a rebutal of your single arguments. Take my word for it: I don't mean
it personal, and I surely don't want to change you (with whom should I
discuss in the future? ;-)). Also when I say, that I don't understand,
how
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Barry,
you are far to heated, and I don't want to bore the audience
here with a rebutal of your single arguments.
Or with dealing with them. Whatever. :-)
Take my word for it: I don't mean it personal, and I surely
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
snip
Yup. It's also *still identification*. In the
Buddhist paradigm, the goal is to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
Whatever floats your boat. :-)
As long as we're dealing with speculation, I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
Whatever
TorquoiseB: snipped
Bingo. You're on a roll today. Some are convinced
that their subjective experience of Brahman *is*
Brahman, or that they are Brahman while that
experience is going on. My view is that there is
a state of attention from which one can experience
Brahman, but it's still Just
--- tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TorquoiseB: snipped
Bingo. You're on a roll today. Some are convinced
that their subjective experience of Brahman *is*
Brahman, or that they are Brahman while that
experience is going on. My view is that there is
a state of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Awakening is the opposite of waking state in the
sense that in waking state you are inside a huge
physical world which is outside you. In Realization
the entire world is inside you. It hangs like a basket
in your
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
snip
Yup. It's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
Whatever
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
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wrote:
--- In
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
[...[
Non sequitur. Above you suggested Trinity had in mind
an imperfect vs. a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
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wrote:
[...[
Non
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
Great 2 cents. Here's mine. We're talking about
identification, right, in different states of
attention. Some prefer to identify with the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But you're welcome to it if it floats your boat.
I guess there is simply no choice.
See? That's where we differ. I have a choice. :-)
No, the situation is the same for us both, just you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
But you're welcome to it if it floats your boat.
I guess there is simply no choice.
See? That's where we differ. I have a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because you didn't have the 'same' You surely had some
degree of witnessing, but you didn't have the experience
that you are not in charge. Or did you have the experience
that you are not in charge, and then
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
But you're welcome to it if it floats your boat.
I guess there is simply no choice.
See? That's where we differ. I have a
Whatever floats your boat. :-)
As long as we're dealing with speculation, I
think you're pretty heavily invested in not
being responsible for your own decisions and
actions. Something in you doesn't believe that
they could ever be perfect if it was you that
made the decisions. So you like to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whatever floats your boat. :-)
As long as we're dealing with speculation,
In this case we are dealing with experiences.
I think you're pretty heavily invested in not
being responsible for your own decisions and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Yup. It's also *still identification*. In the
Buddhist paradigm, the goal is to identify with
*no* point of view or state of attention, but
to transcend them all and identify with *nothing*.
This actually becomes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
Whatever floats your boat. :-)
As long as we're dealing with speculation,
In this case we are dealing with experiences.
I think you're pretty
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whatever floats your boat. :-)
As long as we're dealing with speculation, I
think you're pretty heavily invested in not
being responsible for your own decisions and
actions. Something in you doesn't believe that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
Whatever floats your boat. :-)
As long as we're dealing with speculation, I
think you're pretty heavily invested in not
being responsible
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has it not occurred to you that you're trying to
lecture someone who in your view does not *have*
free will and convince him to use that non-existent
free will to change his behavior and his beliefs?
That you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
You've gotta get *your* consistency act together,
dude. Either everything's perfect or it ain't. You
can't have it both ways.
This from the guy who howls bloody murder when
he's accused of inconsistency and has
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IOW if you look at it from the ego POV, there are lots of
mistakes and limitations, if you look from the POV of the
Self there aren't, everything is perfect. It's just a
matter from which level you look at things
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
It isn't about one set of decisions/actions that you
would make if you were in charge versus a different
set that would be made if the universe were
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
snip
It he stands in the rain and gets wet, it's
because the universe wanted it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
IOW if you look at it from the ego POV, there are lots of
mistakes and limitations, if you look from the POV of the
Self there aren't, everything is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
Whatever floats your boat. :-)
As long as we're dealing with speculation,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
It isn't about one set of decisions/actions that you
would make if you were in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
Whatever
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
IOW if you look at it from the ego POV, there are lots of
mistakes and limitations,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
It isn't
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
So if I stand in the rain and get wet, it's
the result of my choice. I take
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, foufou_fl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
So if I stand
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
snip
Yup. It's also *still identification*. In the
Buddhist paradigm, the goal is to identify with
*no* point of view or state of attention, but
to
And Ezra Pound and T. S. Eliot
Fighting in the captain's tower
While calypso singers laugh at them
And fishermen hold flowers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In
I like Whitman on this business of contradiction:
Do I contradict myself?
Very well, I contradict myself.
I am large, I contain multitudes.
Quoted from memory so may not be 100% accuate, but I'm pretty sure of it.
And I think it was Emerson who wrote Consistency is the hobgoblin of small
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
snip
Yup. It's also *still identification*. In the
Buddhist paradigm, the goal is to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_on_you_i_piss
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
Whatever floats your boat. :-)
As long as we're dealing with speculation, I
think you're pretty heavily invested in not
being responsible
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In MY opinion, it's all about [MY] preference -- which
of the many congruent and simultaneously manifesting
realities [I] choose to focus on. MY preference is
to focus on the one that seems the most productive
at
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
someone who in your view does not *have*
free will
YOU as does everyONE has freewill. When there is noONE noYOU
[claiming experiencer and doer] then
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
IOW if you look at it from the ego POV, there are lots of
mistakes and limitations, if you look from the POV of the
Self there aren't, everything is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
IOW if you look at it from the ego POV, there are lots of
mistakes and limitations, if you look from the POV of the
Self there aren't, everything is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
SELF has a POV? Thats a good one.
Actually, that's what I am saying. The state of
attention in which one perceives that one is
not the doer is Just Another State Of Attention.
It's not really Self.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As acts go, I think that's one suits me better than
yours, which seems to consist of shouting, It's not
me, not me. 'I' don't like...it's the universe doing
all this stuff. Not responsible. :-)
The body is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suspect at least part of the resistance to the idea
that one isn't in control is that
one doesn't want to
have to give up the credit for the latter.
Thats impossible. The I will never give up the credit for the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, foufou_fl no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson
nelsonriddle2001@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
snip
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
Whatever floats your boat. :-)
As long as we're dealing with
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@
wrote:
SELF has a POV? Thats a good one.
Actually, that's what I am saying. The state of
attention in which one perceives that one is
not the doer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
IOW if you look at it from the ego POV, there are lots of
mistakes and
Not this again.
On Feb 19, 2006, at 9:44 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
The Universe wanted YOU to experience it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Not this again.
On Feb 19, 2006, at 9:44 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Or this.
Where do you guys get the energy for these almost endless mind-numbing back and forths? Must be some new technique, I guess.
Sal
On Feb 19, 2006, at 9:44 AM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In
--- Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity
no_reply@ wrote:
IOW if you look at it from
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote:
Sorry dude, that's just chicken sh*t...
That is one of the most insightful, powerful, well thought out, cogent
and compelling postions I have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
Sorry dude, that's just chicken sh*t...
That is one of the most
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin
jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
Great 2 cents. Here's mine. We're talking about
identification, right,
If still identifed you are.
in different states of
attention.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Or this.
Where do you guys get the energy for these almost endless mind-numbing
back and forths? Must be some new technique, I guess.
Why bother? I have seen much worse here.
Yahoo!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
They say that he who can distinguish monkey-doo from chicken-doo, all
knowledge blooms.
As stressor undoubtedly has heard from his sources, the next big
course will be focused on culturing the ability to do so.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@
wrote:
They say that he who can distinguish monkey-doo from
chicken-doo, all
knowledge blooms.
As stressor undoubtedly has heard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_on_you_i_piss
no_reply@ wrote:
I hope all of this was good for the two of you. I have
seen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
snip
Yup. It's also *still identification*. In the
Buddhist paradigm, the goal is to identify with
*no* point of view or state of attention, but
to
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Whatever floats your boat. :-)
As long as we're dealing with speculation, I
think you're pretty heavily invested in not
being responsible
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
IOW if you look at it from the ego POV, there are lots of
mistakes and limitations, if you look from the POV of the
Self there aren't, everything is
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
IOW if you look at it from the ego POV, there are lots of
mistakes and
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Whatever floats your boat. :-)
As long as we're dealing with
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Now just one more point of Maharishis teachings, as far as I
remember them:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
You're wrong about this. I actually don't believe that
realization can be caused by a particular set of teachings.
But I do believe it can definitely
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Now, if this tactics is terribly productive, I don't know, I
just know that this particular body/mind organism called
Maharishi was drawn
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Now, if this tactics is terribly productive, I don't know, I
just know that this particular body/mind organism called
Maharishi was drawn to
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
Okay, for the sake of others who might just catch this
little bit of dialoque: Here I
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Now just
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
You're wrong about this. I actually don't believe that
realization can be caused
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
Ah, the familiar sound of the Judy Mantra: If
anyone heard anything different than I heard,
or understands what Maharishi said differently than
I do,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
If you aren't convinced you know what is right and what
is wrong, why are you still arguing? :-)
To expose contradictions of course, and for the fun
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