[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/1/06 9:35 AM, mrsatva at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because it got too weird for people, or what ? Probebly all the reasons why people are leaving the TMO... I have been thinking about it for quit some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread mrsatva
For some reason, I felt like writing this as a series of questions. I think each question could be answered with examples both pro and con, so we would have to look at what the predominant tendency has been. Because of my limited english skill, answering on this post would take me houers.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Peter
--- mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason, I felt like writing this as a series of questions. I think each question could be answered with examples both pro and con, so we would have to look at what the predominant tendency has been. Because of my limited english

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread mrsatva
Yup. It's a movement full of people who care more about talking the talk than they do walking the walk. In fact, there is no perceived *value* in walking the walk, whereas there is for talking the talk. Good talkers get promoted into the movement hierarchy, whereas those who actually live

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I wonder how the TMO compares with other spiritual movements in terms of this problem. I can't speak for all other spiritual

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (...) the reason for this is that the predominant myth in the TMO is the importance of one's personal enlightenment (...) terms of social interaction. Does this meen, most tm peoples think that they can reach

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason, I felt like writing this as a series of questions. I think each question could be answered with examples both pro and con, so we would have to look at what the predominant tendency has been.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason, I felt like writing this as a series of questions. I think each question could be answered with examples both pro and con, so we would have to look

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup. It's a movement full of people who care more about talking the talk than they do walking the walk. In fact, there is no perceived *value* in walking the walk, whereas there is for talking the talk. Good talkers

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (...) the reason for this is that the predominant myth in the TMO is the importance of one's personal enlightenment (...) terms of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desire for samaadhi?

2006-01-02 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- cardemaister wrote: Taimni's translation: It (samaadhi) is nearest to those whose desire (for samaadhi) is intensely strong. sparaig wrote: When samadhi is close, unstressing is strong. Sparaig's translation makes more sense to me. Going back to my empirical view of things,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/1/06 9:35 AM, mrsatva at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because it got too weird for people, or what ? Probebly all the reasons why

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Peter
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps, but for the vast majority of people, the opportunity to be around people who are genuinely enlightened (whatever that means) seems quite limited. Trying to find people who are somewhat enlightened and being around them simply because

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/1/06 9:35 AM, mrsatva at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 1/2/06 7:02 AM, mrsatva at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think the majority of the day to day heartless behavior can be explaned by stress releese ? (Not talking about MMY, Beven..., talking about normal meditators, siddhas, teachers) MMY and Bevan set the example. I don't have any

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Vaj
On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:08 AM, authfriend wrote:What's a bit odd about the current discussion of the TMO's perceived lack of spirituality is how judgmental it is.  Aren't being spiritual and being judgmental mutually contradictory? Maybe they're just speaking the sweet truth. The question then

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Different cultures define caring in different ways. The TMO's founder is Hindu, and charity work isn't always the top of the list for Hindus, I guess due to the reincarnation/karma thing. Amma's a Hindu, and it's at the top of her list.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it is safe to say that one could spend an entire lifetime in the TM movement and never hear the concept of one's everyday actions

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Vaj
On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Rick Archer wrote:on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Different cultures define "caring" in different ways. The TMO's founder is Hindu, and charity work isn't always the top of the list for Hindus, I guess due to the reincarnation/karma thing.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Different cultures define caring in different ways. The TMO's founder is Hindu, and charity work isn't always the top of the list for Hindus, I guess due to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Vaj
On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:24 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: I think it is safe to say that one could spend an entire lifetime in the TM movement and never hear

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 1/2/06 10:43 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Different cultures define caring in different ways. The TMO's founder is Hindu, and charity

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Sal Sunshine
And not only that, but those same people often becoming sick based on the TMO's health ideas, such as they are, and when they do getting tossed out on their rears, sometimes after decades of service. Sal On Jan 2, 2006, at 10:24 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: And the *reason* they suspect this is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desire for samaadhi?

2006-01-02 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- cardemaister wrote: Taimni's translation: It (samaadhi) is nearest to those whose desire (for samaadhi) is intensely strong. sparaig wrote: When samadhi is close, unstressing is strong.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 440 Buddhist monks in Thailand learn TM

2006-01-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Dec/wnews_21dec2005_128.ram At one hour and six minutes, Guru Bev reports that a Japanese Buddhist monk recently instructed 440 Buddhist monks in Thailand in the practice of TM. Let's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Different cultures define caring in different ways. The TMO's founder is Hindu, and charity work isn't always the top of the list for Hindus, I guess due to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 10:43 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Different cultures define caring in different ways. The TMO's founder is Hindu, and charity work isn't always the top of the list for Hindus, I guess due to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 1/2/06 12:51 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Different cultures define caring in different ways. The TMO's founder is Hindu, and charity work

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Different cultures define caring in different ways. The TMO's founder is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you've got the answer to all of life's problems (i.e. TM), why waste your precious time setting up hospitals and stuff like that? Better to spend yet another year of your precious time trying to raise billions

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 8:43 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's just that in MMY's teaching, the means is to become enlightened oneself, on the theory that the effectiveness of one's service to others is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 12:51 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Different

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it is safe to say that one could spend an entire

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:08 AM, authfriend wrote: What's a bit odd about the current discussion of the TMO's perceived lack of spirituality is how judgmental it is. Aren't being spiritual and being judgmental mutually

[FairfieldLife] Excerpt from Green Card

2006-01-02 Thread shempmcgurk
Georges Faure: What's that? Bronte Mitchell Faure: Oh, it's... it's just a gardening group. We go into poor areas,like the Lower East Side, and... Georges: I came from that life. You waste your time. Bronte: What? Georges: Yeah. Nothing will change down there. It will always be that way.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you've got the answer to all of life's problems (i.e. TM), why waste your precious time setting up hospitals and stuff like

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread shirleybrahman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Different cultures define caring in different ways. The TMO's founder is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Vaj
On Jan 2, 2006, at 3:01 PM, authfriend wrote:It might become that if I had suggested it seemed "bitter" to me, but you made that up.  Perhaps you'd like to read what I wrote again and respond to that instead of to your fantasies of what I wrote? It was sweet then? What rasa did you get from it?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **SNIP** Different cultures define caring in different ways. The TMO's founder is Hindu, and charity work isn't always the top of the list for Hindus, I guess due to the reincarnation/karma thing. Amma's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 1/2/06 2:11 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I do accept the premise that TM works and does everything that is claimed that it does. But what the TMO has been doing for the past 25 years has, in my opinion, been directly at odds with promulgating TM Then I guess TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread ultrarishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In any case, of course you have to discriminate and make evolutionary decisions; that isn't what I mean by judgmentalism. You can say, e.g., I choose to do THIS rather than THAT, without saying, They're selfish and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 2, 2006, at 3:01 PM, authfriend wrote: It might become that if I had suggested it seemed bitter to me, but you made that up. Perhaps you'd like to read what I wrote again and respond to that instead of to your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread ultrarishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Different cultures define caring in different ways. The TMO's founder is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread shirleybrahman
Shemp Apologies in advance for calling you names on my very first post to this newsgroup. I've heard the argument you have put forth by seekers in both the TM group as well as other so-called spiritual groups and it always gets me riled up. Again, apologies. (all this is) Shirley Brahman --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desire for samaadhi?

2006-01-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- cardemaister wrote: Taimni's translation: It (samaadhi) is nearest to those whose desire (for samaadhi) is intensely strong. sparaig wrote: When samadhi is close, unstressing is strong.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it is safe to say that one could spend an entire

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Different cultures define caring in different ways. The TMO's founder is Hindu, and charity work isn't always the top of the list for Hindus, I guess due to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ultrarishi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In any case, of course you have to discriminate and make evolutionary decisions; that isn't what I mean by judgmentalism. You can say,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Rick Archer wrote: on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Different cultures define caring in different ways. The TMO's founder is Hindu, and charity work isn't always the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 10:43 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:24 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it is safe to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And not only that, but those same people often becoming sick based on the TMO's health ideas, such as they are, and when they do getting tossed out on their rears, sometimes after decades of service. Sal You

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desire for samaadhi?

2006-01-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- cardemaister wrote: Taimni's translation: It (samaadhi) is nearest to those whose desire (for samaadhi) is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Different cultures define caring in different ways. The TMO's founder is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 10:43 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shirleybrahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip When you've got the answer to all of life's problems (i.e. TM), why waste your precious time setting up hospitals and stuff like

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 12:51 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Different

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shirleybrahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 2:11 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I do accept the premise that TM works and does everything that is claimed that it does. But what the TMO has been doing for the past 25 years

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shirleybrahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shirleybrahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shemp Apologies in advance for calling you names on my very first post to this newsgroup. I've heard the argument you have put forth by seekers in both the TM group as well as other so-called spiritual groups and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Vaj
On Jan 2, 2006, at 5:58 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Rick Archer wrote: on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Different cultures define "caring" in different ways. The TMO's founder is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Vaj
On Jan 2, 2006, at 4:15 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:As Nisargadatta says, it's your earnestness that is key. Did Nisargadatta ever teach the methods he learned from his Nath guru (that got him enlightened) to his students? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread L B Shriver
Hi Marek, I've been away for a bit and not following the action here. Nice post. Certainly gives a new take on Nisargadatta. Where did you learn these things about his guru, his practice, his teachings? L B S --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think teaching TM is a good thing, but when I think about the TMO I'm reminded of this quote from Jung: Hysterical self-deceivers... pretend to be seekers after God in order not to have to face the truth that

[FairfieldLife] New York Times: Playboy Makes Move in India

2006-01-02 Thread L B Shriver
Playboy Makes Move in India, but Without the Centerfold By ANAND GIRIDHARADAS Published: January 2, 2006 MUMBAI, India - In a little-noticed milestone for the world of sex-related entertainment, Playboy said last month that it would seek to do in India what it had never done before: publish a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **SNIP** Apparently Nisargadatta's method of the abidance in the I Am *was* what his guru taught. Or he spoke very generally to his students and withheld the actual methods leading to the abidance in the

[FairfieldLife] Panexa. Ask your doctor for a reason to take it.

2006-01-02 Thread authfriend
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[FairfieldLife] Rule for DNR discretionary authority

2006-01-02 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Rule for DNR discretionary authority See call to action at the bottom. -- Forwarded Message From: Francis Thicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 09:27:28 -0600 To: 'Francis Thicke' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Rule for DNR discretionary authority Thanks to all who sent

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Marek Reavis
Conversation continued at bottom: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marek, I've been away for a bit and not following the action here. Nice post. Certainly gives a new take on Nisargadatta. Where did you learn these things about his guru, his

[FairfieldLife] Science must destroy religion

2006-01-02 Thread coshlnx
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 1/2/06 5:22 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 2:11 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I do accept the premise that TM works and does everything that is claimed that it does. But

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 1/2/06 5:50 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why the NLP was a horrible disaster for the TMO. They should NEVER have done it, it was wrong, and it was just another nail in the coffin of what was once a great movement. I pretty much agree with you, but Maharishi said he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 1/2/06 7:44 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think teaching TM is a good thing, but when I think about the TMO I'm reminded of this quote from Jung: Hysterical self-deceivers... pretend to be

Re: [FairfieldLife] New York Times: Playboy Makes Move in India

2006-01-02 Thread Rick Archer
Meanwhile, prostitution, including the use of kidnapped children, is rampant. Amma was gearing up to do something about the problem when the tsunami hit and she had to deal with that. Just recently, she's begun to turn her attention to this again. She talked about this in Vaju's living room the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Vaj
On Jan 2, 2006, at 9:10 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:If Nisargadatta was speaking "generally" in those talks, withholding the "real methods" of realization then it would seem to me that he was a profound liar, inasmuch as the directness, simplicity and lucidity of what he says in those talks is so

Re: [FairfieldLife] New York Times: Playboy Makes Move in India

2006-01-02 Thread Sal Sunshine
The kalyuga has arrived. Sal On Jan 2, 2006, at 8:06 PM, L B Shriver wrote: Playboy Makes Move in India, but Without the Centerfold

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Sal Sunshine
Oh, we have plenty of characters here, Rick. There's a limit? I think we're probably over. Sal On Jan 2, 2006, at 9:01 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Yeah, I'm tempted to put it on the FFL home page, but there's a character limit.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 2, 2006, at 9:10 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: If Nisargadatta was speaking generally in those talks, withholding the real methods of realization then it would seem to me that he was a profound liar,

[FairfieldLife] Re: New York Times: Playboy Makes Move in India

2006-01-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Playboy Makes Move in India, but Without the Centerfold By ANAND GIRIDHARADAS Published: January 2, 2006 MUMBAI, India - In a little-noticed milestone for the world of sex- related entertainment, Playboy said last

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 5:50 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why the NLP was a horrible disaster for the TMO. They should NEVER have done it, it was wrong, and it was just another nail in the coffin of

[FairfieldLife] The New Advaitins

2006-01-02 Thread coshlnx
re: previous post asking about the new Advaitins and if there's anything negative that can be said about them. I call them Neo- Advaitins. Most are non-progressivists in the traditions of Ramana Maharshi and Nisargadatta Maharaj. HWL Poonja, a disciple of RM, has spawned a sizeable brood of

[FairfieldLife] Heather Graham

2006-01-02 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Heather Graham ...is going to be on Letterman in a few minutes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think teaching TM is a good thing, but when I think about the TMO I'm reminded of this quote from Jung: Hysterical

Re: [FairfieldLife] Heather Graham

2006-01-02 Thread gullible fool
I saw it. She was great. Funny, energetic, and she glowed. The TM poster girl does body shots. --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...is going to be on Letterman in a few minutes. __ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home