[FairfieldLife] Re: Blue states buzz over secession
Coming from Quebec, I am a somewhat expert on secession, having studied it from a constitutional as well as political viewpoint. One of the first articles mentioned various states such as Oregon and Washington joining Canada. Well, it has been suggested before that those two states join B.C. and Alberta (and possibly others) into a state called Cascadia. Curiously, there is a school of thought -- led by none other than Ben Stein of Win Ben Stein's money fame -- that the attempt at secession by the South in the 1860s was entirely legit. I believe that the jist of it is that the residual power in the constitution -- that's the power that says that anything not explicitly given to the federal government goes to the states -- would go to the states because there is no mention of who has power over secession in the constitution. So... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20041109-122753-5113r.htm http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/01/25/secession/index.ht ml?pn=4 http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo103.html http://www.californiasecession.org/ http://www.thenation.com/doc/20041213/sale http://www.confederateamericanpride.com/case4secession.html http://www.theihs.org/libertyguide/article.php/729.html http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/6/3/17568/04317 http://www.oxfordscholarship.com/oso/public/content/politicalscience/ 0198293844/toc.html http://www.alternet.org/story/14531 10 Most Bitchin' Reasons California Becoming Its Own Country Would Be So Cool * Four words: Vice President Nancy Pelosi. * State and local legislatures already extremely comfortable setting foreign policy. * Our own armed services. Eastwood, Schwarzenegger, Stallone or Willis in charge? * Opening weekend foreign distribution movie figures go way up. * You want a war. I got a war for you. We invade Florida for orange juice supremacy. Then take on Wisconsin for that whole cheese deal. Then France. For the wine? No, for the hell of it. Because now it's in our blood. * Our own intelligence agency. Imagine the allure of an assignment to one of our undercover cells in Reno. * Can extradite and convict Enron CEO, Ken Lay, at our own war crimes tribunal. * We charge a fee on every foreigner trying out as a contestant on Wheel of Fortune. Call it a stupid tax. * Bechtel (a California based concern) builds a Great Wall right down the middle of Lake Tahoe. Screw the corner. Straight line. North to south. * We outlaw Fox News as a foreign propaganda tool. http://www.slate.com/id/2109317/ http://www.kurdishaspect.com/doc716100.html http://www.agwright.com/blog/archives/000993.html http://www.mises.org/story/1204 http://www.sobran.com/columns/2004/041123.shtml http://www.petitiononline.com/casec/petition.htm http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4695553 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blue states buzz over secession
In Canada, the federal government can submit a reference to the Supreme Court of Canada over a legal question. This is what they did in 1996 regarding Quebec secession. The following link is the Court's answer: http://scc.lexum.umontreal.ca/en/1998/1998rcs2-217/1998rcs2-217.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20041109-122753-5113r.htm http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/01/25/secession/index.ht ml?pn=4 http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo103.html http://www.californiasecession.org/ http://www.thenation.com/doc/20041213/sale http://www.confederateamericanpride.com/case4secession.html http://www.theihs.org/libertyguide/article.php/729.html http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/6/3/17568/04317 http://www.oxfordscholarship.com/oso/public/content/politicalscience/ 0198293844/toc.html http://www.alternet.org/story/14531 10 Most Bitchin' Reasons California Becoming Its Own Country Would Be So Cool * Four words: Vice President Nancy Pelosi. * State and local legislatures already extremely comfortable setting foreign policy. * Our own armed services. Eastwood, Schwarzenegger, Stallone or Willis in charge? * Opening weekend foreign distribution movie figures go way up. * You want a war. I got a war for you. We invade Florida for orange juice supremacy. Then take on Wisconsin for that whole cheese deal. Then France. For the wine? No, for the hell of it. Because now it's in our blood. * Our own intelligence agency. Imagine the allure of an assignment to one of our undercover cells in Reno. * Can extradite and convict Enron CEO, Ken Lay, at our own war crimes tribunal. * We charge a fee on every foreigner trying out as a contestant on Wheel of Fortune. Call it a stupid tax. * Bechtel (a California based concern) builds a Great Wall right down the middle of Lake Tahoe. Screw the corner. Straight line. North to south. * We outlaw Fox News as a foreign propaganda tool. http://www.slate.com/id/2109317/ http://www.kurdishaspect.com/doc716100.html http://www.agwright.com/blog/archives/000993.html http://www.mises.org/story/1204 http://www.sobran.com/columns/2004/041123.shtml http://www.petitiononline.com/casec/petition.htm http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4695553 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: an overlooked kriya - out of body travel.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Technically, none. However there are three styles of out of body travel (Skt.: AmAzaya), Where did you find that word? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel Needs Yogic Fliers to Beat Hizbullah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Forget F-16s, Israel needs Yogic Flyers to beat Hizbullah AMIR MIZROCH, THE JERUSALEM POST Jul. 23, 2006 There are Katyusha rockets falling in villages and towns all around them, but for the squadron of 30 Israeli Yogic Flyers assembled at a hotel on Lake Kinneret all is quiet. That's because they have managed to create a shield of invincibility around their gathering place. Now they are calling for another 235 Flyers to come and join them to create a shield that would, they say, cover all of Israel. Read more at: http://tinyurl.com/pe275 I'm all for yogic flyers doing what they can to defuse the tensions in the region, but Tiberias looks like it is near the limits of Hezbollah rocketry, and Hezbollah probably wants to avoid hitting Jordanian territory (Tiberias is near the Jordanian border: http://www.hoteltravel.com/israel/tiberias/maps.htm ), so I'm not sure it means much that the yogic flyers in Tiberias have not been hit. Hardly Hezbollah cares who it hits in Israel, that is beside lip service. Hezbollah already murdered 2 Muslim kids few days ago in addition to Israelis. And the Israelis have killed 10X as many people in this latest conflict. Numbers games are futile. futile it is. The only difference is that Hezbollah is knowingly aiming for civilians while Israel is after Hezbollah terrorists. ... Calling for the Lebanese government to do something while knowing that the Lebanse government isn't strog enough to do anything is hypocritical at best. There's a lot more going on than they attacked us and we had no choice but to retaliate. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel Needs Yogic Fliers to Beat Hizbullah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: from article: According to his Web site, he has demonstrated scientifically that human physiology is made up of the 40 aspects of Veda and Vedic Literature, and that all the infinite organizing powers of all kinds and the whole cosmos are seated in the physiology of every human being. He did THAT SCIENTIFICALLY!!!??? Wow, when is he going to share the SCIENCE of it? I don't have his book. It's WAAAY too expensive. My impression is that he took the current understanding of the function of the parts of the brain and showed that each had a corresponding relationship to the devas. The Vedic Vibration therapy may be based directly on this understanding of the relationship: a given bit of Vedic literature/mantra is related to a given deva and therefore to a given part of the brain. Each physiological problem associated with that part of the brain (e.g. a physical ailment in your arm is associated with the part of your brain associated with control/sensation of your arm) is influenced by the corresponding Vedic Vibration technique. Just speculation on my part, mind you. http://www.enmag.org/03/3nader2.htm I seem to recall hearing that Tony's theory had soemthing to do with the Vedic Vibration thing so its not like I was pulling it out of thin air. The concept isn't completely off the wall, IMHO, but the homeopathic aspect feels a bit off to me. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: an overlooked kriya - out of body travel.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: . Out of body travel should be a more reachable goal. How many people reading this can peform that kriya at will? I can along with Rick Archer,Off World, Judy, Lawson, and Curtis. If I can just spend less time being out of my mind Some of the above have even longer vacations than you. :) I resemble that remark... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel Needs Yogic Fliers to Beat Hizbullah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: I wish TMO could establish a permanent yogic flyers group in the region , much beter than emergency calls.. I think multi-millionaire Warren Berman was in charge of making that happen for years. Nothing ever came of it though, partly because I think Maharishi now insists that groups be made up of people from whatever region it is, not foreigners. Another block to world peace...now we have State of Emergency OffWorld In May of last year, it was proposed that 500 pundits go to Lebanon (King Tony's family lives in a wealthy suburb of Beirut, after all), but nothing came of it. Probably too dangerous even then. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/52903 In all these years have 500 pundits ever been sent anywhere? OffWorld To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, amarnath anatol_zinc@ wrote: If you notice, MMY 20 steps of ayurveda which includes TM does not iclude Love, Bhakti, Bhajans and SEVA( selfeless service ) all of which are the core of Amma's teachings by example of Her life. The TM program includes following your own religious ...traditions. No frikkin way ! Very few of those don't include Love, devotion, etc... Lol... However, Maharishi's explanation of TM has been that the more you transcend the more your mind is infused with love, devotion etc. God consciousness is love and devotion (to something). He has always said that doing these things as a spiritual exercise is a waste of time, except for some small behavioural rasayana effect that is additional to the much more important transcending. Butthey are STILL good for the person on a relative level of getting along with other people. I venture to say that hugs are a complete waste of time at all levels. I hope you don't have kids I hope you are not teaching children that hugs will bring enlightenment or world peace OffWorld To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel Needs Yogic Fliers to Beat Hizbullah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Forget F-16s, Israel needs Yogic Flyers to beat Hizbullah AMIR MIZROCH, THE JERUSALEM POST Jul. 23, 2006 There are Katyusha rockets falling in villages and towns all around them, but for the squadron of 30 Israeli Yogic Flyers assembled at a hotel on Lake Kinneret all is quiet. That's because they have managed to create a shield of invincibility around their gathering place. Now they are calling for another 235 Flyers to come and join them to create a shield that would, they say, cover all of Israel. Read more at: http://tinyurl.com/pe275 I'm all for yogic flyers doing what they can to defuse the tensions in the region, but Tiberias looks like it is near the limits of Hezbollah rocketry, and Hezbollah probably wants to avoid hitting Jordanian territory (Tiberias is near the Jordanian border: http://www.hoteltravel.com/israel/tiberias/maps.htm ), so I'm not sure it means much that the yogic flyers in Tiberias have not been hit. Hardly Hezbollah cares who it hits in Israel, that is beside lip service. Hezbollah already murdered 2 Muslim kids few days ago in addition to Israelis. Gaza July 13, 2006 (just before current conflict) Israel kills family of nine in their sleep. http://tinyurl.com/ovdd4 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel Needs Yogic Fliers to Beat Hizbullah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gaza July 13, 2006 (just before current conflict) Israel kills family of nine in their sleep. http://tinyurl.com/ovdd4 That was hardly intentional. I believe it's called collateral damage or something, and thus it doesn't count! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel Needs Yogic Fliers to Beat Hizbullah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: The only difference is that Hezbollah is knowingly aiming for civilians while Israel is after Hezbollah terrorists. *** http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/24/world/middleeast/24tyre.html There is no clean war and i didn't suggest that kids on both side haven't got hurt, my point is that while Israel is trying to do it's best that no civilians will get hurt Hezbollah are doing it's best to hit civilians. Hezzbolah and many Palestinians will hide behind children or shoot from public places knowing that Israelis won't shoot back. Palestinians educate for terrorism: http://tinyurl.com/zamzh http://tinyurl.com/rua7c http://tinyurl.com/fg7b4 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel Needs Yogic Fliers to Beat Hizbullah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: Defense Minister Peretz told commanders to prepare civil defense plans, and some 220,000 Israeli civilians were sent to bomb shelters. [45][46][47] Hezbollah continued to fire hundreds of Katyusha rockets into northern Israel's towns and cities, including Nahariya, Safed, Hatzor HaGlilit, Rosh Pina, Kiryat Shmona, and Karmiel, and numerous small agricultural villages.[48][49][50][48][51] For the first time, Hezbollah attacks have penetrated as far south as Haifa, Israel's third largest city, as well as Atlit and the Jezreel Valley cities of Nazareth and Afula. Al-Manar has reported that the Hezbollah attack included a Fajr-3 and a Ra'ad 1 liquid- fuel missiles, developed by Iran.[52][53] One of the attacks hit a railroad repair depots, killing eight workers; Hezbollah claimed that this attack was aimed at a large Israeli fuel storage plant adjacent to the railway facility. Haifa is home to many strategically valuable facilities such as shipyards and oil refineries, and their targeting by Hezbollah is seen as an escalation. (WP) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel Needs Yogic Fliers to Beat Hizbullah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Forget F-16s, Israel needs Yogic Flyers to beat Hizbullah AMIR MIZROCH, THE JERUSALEM POST Jul. 23, 2006 There are Katyusha rockets falling in villages and towns all around them, but for the squadron of 30 Israeli Yogic Flyers assembled at a hotel on Lake Kinneret all is quiet. That's because they have managed to create a shield of invincibility around their gathering place. Now they are calling for another 235 Flyers to come and join them to create a shield that would, they say, cover all of Israel. Read more at: http://tinyurl.com/pe275 I'm all for yogic flyers doing what they can to defuse the tensions in the region, but Tiberias looks like it is near the limits of Hezbollah rocketry, and Hezbollah probably wants to avoid hitting Jordanian territory (Tiberias is near the Jordanian border: http://www.hoteltravel.com/israel/tiberias/maps.htm ), so I'm not sure it means much that the yogic flyers in Tiberias have not been hit. Hardly Hezbollah cares who it hits in Israel, that is beside lip service. Hezbollah already murdered 2 Muslim kids few days ago in addition to Israelis. And the Israelis have killed 10X as many people in this latest conflict. Numbers games are futile. futile it is. The only difference is that Hezbollah is knowingly aiming for civilians while Israel is after Hezbollah terrorists. ... Calling for the Lebanese government to do something while knowing that the Lebanse government isn't strog enough to do anything is hypocritical at best. There's a lot more going on than they attacked us and we had no choice but to retaliate. Olmert open to EU peacekeeping force Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert says his Government will accept an international peacekeeping force in southern Lebanon. Mr Olmert has made the announcement ahead of talks with the US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who is expected to arrive in Jerusalem today. Israel is ready to see deployment of a force with military capabilities and combat experience made up of troops from European Union countries once its mandate has been fixed, Mr Olmert said. He says the mandate will have to include control of the border crossings between Syria and Lebanon, deployment in south Lebanon and support for the Lebanese Army. Mr Olmert adds that the force will also need to oversee the full implementation of Resolution 1559 and the dismantling of the (military) capabilities of Hezbollah, referring to a two-year-old UN Security Council resolution calling for the disarmament of all armed groups in Lebanon. Israeli Defence Minister Amir Peretz has suggested the force could be led by NATO. A Defence Ministry spokeswoman says Mr Peretz thinks the international force should be given enforcing authority in southern Lebanon temporarily until the Lebanese Army can deploy and operate effectively. But a NATO official says there has been no discussion until now of any role by the alliance, citing efforts to expand an existing UN force rather than create a new one. Dr Rice will meet Mr Olmert and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM reputationon wikipedia
You avoided the question directed at you. This makes you either a chicken, a moron or an asshole.. Make your pick - and do feel free to spread your totalitarian manure elsewhere in the future. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: You log in with an anonymous IP AFTER being banned from making edits, and do full- scale reverts. Lame. BTW do you always refer to yourself in the 3rd person? I know a few enlightened types do that on occasion but you're sure not coming accross that way. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Does anyone know Peter Klutz personally? He's engaging in non-stop vandalism on wikipedia. I do (I think). Before the propaganda by wikipeda et al makes you fully brainwashed, here'sa recap followed by some assorted comments: (1) PK started out like he supposed most other people start with making contributions at WP, with the innocent joy of creating something only a newbie can muster. He was immediatelly attacked by numerous accounts accusing him of vandalism and violations of whatever rules exist at wikipedia. It would take PK a month or so to realize that he had skipped right into a carefully moulded minefield. Because this is what WP apparently has petrified into: controversial articles have been appropriated by clicques of people who scream bloody murder and throw the V word at anyone who thinks he or she can contribute, whilst ingratiating themselves with admins. True to his nature (but unfortunatelly still too innocent for this world) PK became pissed off at these attacks and held his ground. His greatest mistake, however, was to take the allegations against TM and MMY at face value and investigate the sources. When this was done - and it was apparent that the TM and MMY articels have been kidnapped by entities dedicatedly hostile to TM etc - he said so. The rest, as it is said, is history. (2) Instead of caving in to the constant barrage of allegations against PK, sparaig, take a couple of steps back and review the situation. Here are a few suggestions: a. compare Mr Skolnicks interpretation of wikipedia rules with the rules themselves. When you do this, you're actually going to learn that what S is trying to portray as rules are in fact more like guidelines - guidelines found on pages that can actually be edited and thus changed by anyone. Perhaps more surprisingly, you will also come across the word bold, which is how Mr Jimbo Wales, want's your contributions to be like (and there's a backdrop to my questions to Bishonento what'sgone wrong with WP - duly deleted by S). b. compare PK's NPA violations with S violations or even those of some of the admins. c. PK's view on what's going on at WP is that it is a social experiement gone terrbiely wrong: S and his admins has rapidly formed a secterian-minded group based on hate toward outsiders (in this case people they label TMers) where relations are now so tight that S feel comfortable enough to publicly joke about his gratitude of the admins at WP for their willingess to enroll in S's personal axis of evil of Jewish-Christian fundamentalism. PK's take on the situation is that the phenomenon is akin to how people a few hundred years ago worked up a frenzy in order to be able to torch witches at the stake. I say this half-jokiugly, but the discrepancy between PK's contributions per se and how they are described by S adn assorted WP admins has to be seen to be believed. So has the bile produced at WP over it all. d. Finally, how many people actually read the TM and MMY articles at WP? I'd be surprised if anyone outside a circle made up of yourself, Bishonen and other WP admins - and S - do this. Never mind the mosquitoues - shoot the tiger. Why engage in pointless communications with the mosquitoes of this world, when you can go to DC or FF? PK Who appointed Andrew Skolnick and wikipedia the arbitrators of free speech? The owner of Wikipedia controls wikipedia, and people who play by his rules get to continue playing. BTW, while Skolnick usually knows how to play the game well enough to slip in his POV, in the long run, he gets corrected. Sometimes he goes overboard and he gets slapped down, as happened after you were banned when he took it on himself to add a smarmy little commentary after every one of your comments on the TM:talk page. His entire list
[FairfieldLife] Re: So there is no global warming, eh?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatdya call this? Summer? Yeah, it may be summer but the climatologists are saying the excessive heatwave (with no end in site BTW) is due to global warming. But hell we all know it is the Rapture so all you righties better get your duds off and stand around outside to wait for Jeezuss as you don't want to miss it! Heatwave? In Iowa? Blimey. We're having one here in the UK. Hottest July day since 1911. 36 degrees. I thought it was just us. There is something very serious going on. Uns. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: So there is no global warming, eh?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heatwave? In Iowa? Blimey. Blimey? For some reason reminds me of On the buses :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel Needs Yogic Fliers to Beat Hizbullah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: from article: According to his Web site, he has demonstrated scientifically that human physiology is made up of the 40 aspects of Veda and Vedic Literature, and that all the infinite organizing powers of all kinds and the whole cosmos are seated in the physiology of every human being. He did THAT SCIENTIFICALLY!!!??? Wow, when is he going to share the SCIENCE of it? FWIW, from the link Bob provided below, I suspect the scientific demonstration of this principle is considered to be the results of Vedic Vibration Technology (or Instant Relief program), reported here: http://www.vedicvibration.com/Research.htm In other words, that Vedic Vibration Technology works is said to be proof that the theory is sound. I didn't read it, BTW. There's a lot of material. On the page Bob cited, Nader claims the studies were rigorous and double-blind. I did do a search for the word blind on the page reporting the studies and didn't find it. I don't have his book. It's WAAAY too expensive. The book would be the theoretical aspect, I think. My impression is that he took the current understanding of the function of the parts of the brain and showed that each had a corresponding relationship to the devas. The Vedic Vibration therapy may be based directly on this understanding of the relationship: a given bit of Vedic literature/mantra is related to a given deva and therefore to a given part of the brain. Each physiological problem associated with that part of the brain (e.g. a physical ailment in your arm is associated with the part of your brain associated with control/sensation of your arm) is influenced by the corresponding Vedic Vibration technique. Just speculation on my part, mind you. Seems to me that's correct, from the Web site Bob cited and the site on the Vedic Vibration Technology it links to with the results of the studies (which are not said to have been published, as far as I can determine). http://www.enmag.org/03/3nader2.htm I seem to recall hearing that Tony's theory had soemthing to do with the Vedic Vibration thing so its not like I was pulling it out of thin air. Right, according to that page there's a direct connection. The concept isn't completely off the wall, IMHO, but the homeopathic aspect feels a bit off to me. What homeopathic aspect? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting phenomena on thread : Flying vs. Hopping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right. I am familiar with the basic mechanics of TM. Then how come you got it wrong? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: OK. I thought you were joking. Transcending is the cornorstone of MMY's program. It is the single most important part of his teaching. It is considered going to the home of all knowldedge and all the laws of nature. It is going to the highest first. It is watering the root so you can enjoy the fruit. It is pulling back the bow so you can let the arrow of activity fly. It is the rest before activity. It is capturing the fort so you can enjoy all the silver and gold mines. Come on Spraig help me out here. You are a sharp guy. What are you talking about? MMY considers transcending Valuable. As long as you are doing the technique correctly, transcending is no more valueable than being lost in thoughts... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM reputationon wikipedia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You avoided the question directed at you. This makes you either a chicken, a moron or an asshole.. Make your pick - and do feel free to spread your totalitarian manure elsewhere in the future. Peter, Lawson is not advocating for Wikipedia's rules, he's explaining what they *are*, since you don't seem to be getting it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: You log in with an anonymous IP AFTER being banned from making edits, and do full- scale reverts. Lame. BTW do you always refer to yourself in the 3rd person? I know a few enlightened types do that on occasion but you're sure not coming accross that way. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Does anyone know Peter Klutz personally? He's engaging in non-stop vandalism on wikipedia. I do (I think). Before the propaganda by wikipeda et al makes you fully brainwashed, here'sa recap followed by some assorted comments: (1) PK started out like he supposed most other people start with making contributions at WP, with the innocent joy of creating something only a newbie can muster. He was immediatelly attacked by numerous accounts accusing him of vandalism and violations of whatever rules exist at wikipedia. It would take PK a month or so to realize that he had skipped right into a carefully moulded minefield. Because this is what WP apparently has petrified into: controversial articles have been appropriated by clicques of people who scream bloody murder and throw the V word at anyone who thinks he or she can contribute, whilst ingratiating themselves with admins. True to his nature (but unfortunatelly still too innocent for this world) PK became pissed off at these attacks and held his ground. His greatest mistake, however, was to take the allegations against TM and MMY at face value and investigate the sources. When this was done - and it was apparent that the TM and MMY articels have been kidnapped by entities dedicatedly hostile to TM etc - he said so. The rest, as it is said, is history. (2) Instead of caving in to the constant barrage of allegations against PK, sparaig, take a couple of steps back and review the situation. Here are a few suggestions: a. compare Mr Skolnicks interpretation of wikipedia rules with the rules themselves. When you do this, you're actually going to learn that what S is trying to portray as rules are in fact more like guidelines - guidelines found on pages that can actually be edited and thus changed by anyone. Perhaps more surprisingly, you will also come across the word bold, which is how Mr Jimbo Wales, want's your contributions to be like (and there's a backdrop to my questions to Bishonento what'sgone wrong with WP - duly deleted by S). b. compare PK's NPA violations with S violations or even those of some of the admins. c. PK's view on what's going on at WP is that it is a social experiement gone terrbiely wrong: S and his admins has rapidly formed a secterian-minded group based on hate toward outsiders (in this case people they label TMers) where relations are now so tight that S feel comfortable enough to publicly joke about his gratitude of the admins at WP for their willingess to enroll in S's personal axis of evil of Jewish-Christian fundamentalism. PK's take on the situation is that the phenomenon is akin to how people a few hundred years ago worked up a frenzy in order to be able to torch witches at the stake. I say this half-jokiugly, but the discrepancy between PK's contributions per se and how they are described by S adn assorted WP admins has to be seen to be believed. So has the bile produced at WP over it all. d. Finally, how many people actually read the TM and MMY articles at WP? I'd be surprised if anyone outside a circle made up of yourself, Bishonen and other WP admins - and S - do this. Never mind the mosquitoues - shoot the tiger. Why engage in pointless communications with the mosquitoes of this world, when you can go to DC or FF? PK Who appointed Andrew Skolnick and wikipedia the arbitrators of free speech? The owner of Wikipedia controls wikipedia, and people who play by his rules get to
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: an overlooked kriya - out of body travel.
On Jul 24, 2006, at 2:32 AM, cardemaister wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Technically, none. However there are three styles of out of body travel (Skt.: AmAzaya), Where did you find that word? A text I use. It's also used in Ayurveda for the second stomach in ruminants. There is another, more common word, but it escapes me at the moment. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM reputationon wikipedia
I suspect that 'Peter Klutz' is an alias of another poster on FFL, who might well have multiple identities. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know Peter Klutz personally? He's engaging in non-stop vandalism on wikipedia. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: an overlooked kriya - out of body travel.
On Jul 24, 2006, at 7:49 AM, Vaj wrote:On Jul 24, 2006, at 2:32 AM, cardemaister wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Technically, none. However there are three styles of out of body travel (Skt.: AmAzaya),Where did you find that word?A text I use. It's also used in Ayurveda for the second stomach in ruminants. There is another, more common word, but it escapes me at the moment.saMkrAnti is the more common word. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Flying vs. Hopping -
Failure for who ? For those that didn't get the hang of it obviously. For those that never took it seriously, ofcourse. For those that for some personal reasons never made it work, or those that where just kidding around even having conversations during flying ? Yes. But not for those who do it correctly; they have very good experiences indeed. And they will be able to levitate in the 3'rd stage when the time is ripe. Hi, I was responding to Spairaig's comment, not the 'failure' one. I always had great experiences with the flying technique- lots of high hops, some extended hops and at least once a short 10-12 ft 'flight'. I don't do the Sidhis program anymore though- but not because I thought there was anything wrong with it. Why did you stop ? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blue states buzz over secession
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coming from Quebec, I am a somewhat expert on secession, having studied it from a constitutional as well as political viewpoint. One of the first articles mentioned various states such as Oregon and Washington joining Canada. Well, it has been suggested before that those two states join B.C. and Alberta (and possibly others) into a state called Cascadia. Curiously, there is a school of thought -- led by none other than Ben Stein of Win Ben Stein's money fame -- that the attempt at secession by the South in the 1860s was entirely legit. I believe that the jist of it is that the residual power in the constitution -- that's the power that says that anything not explicitly given to the federal government goes to the states -- would go to the states because there is no mention of who has power over secession in the constitution. So... I don't know the specifics of this, Shemp, but when I lived in Canada for three years, it was always explained to me there that the reason that the Quebecois' threat to secede was taken seriously was that the right to do so was actually guaranteed in the Canadian constitution, *as opposed to* the US constitution. I don't know that this is true, but it's how it was explained to me in Toronto, in a couple of cases by attorneys. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel Needs Yogic Fliers to Beat Hizbullah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Gaza July 13, 2006 (just before current conflict) Israel kills family of nine in their sleep. http://tinyurl.com/ovdd4 That was hardly intentional. I believe it's called collateral damage or something, and thus it doesn't count! Unless you happen to be the collateral. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel Needs Yogic Fliers to Beat Hizbullah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Gaza July 13, 2006 (just before current conflict) Israel kills family of nine in their sleep. http://tinyurl.com/ovdd4 That was hardly intentional. I believe it's called collateral damage or something, and thus it doesn't count! You must be joking ! The Isrealis (and Americans in Iraq ) just smash out in all directions and have so much collateral damage. They don't care. They just call it collateral dagmage and then do another one. The collateral damage is unnacceptable OffWorld To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel Needs Yogic Fliers to Beat Hizbullah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Gaza July 13, 2006 (just before current conflict) Israel kills family of nine in their sleep. http://tinyurl.com/ovdd4 That was hardly intentional. I believe it's called collateral damage or something, and thus it doesn't count! You must be joking ! Bingo! I think that would be called irony. Perhaps I should have indicated it somehow... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel Needs Yogic Fliers to Beat Hizbullah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: I wish TMO could establish a permanent yogic flyers group in the region , much beter than emergency calls.. I think multi-millionaire Warren Berman was in charge of making that happen for years. Nothing ever came of it though, partly because I think Maharishi now insists that groups be made up of people from whatever region it is, not foreigners. Another block to world peace...now we have State of Emergency OffWorld In May of last year, it was proposed that 500 pundits go to Lebanon (King Tony's family lives in a wealthy suburb of Beirut, after all), but nothing came of it. Probably too dangerous even then. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/52903 In all these years have 500 pundits ever been sent anywhere? Yeah. Several thousand were sent home at one point. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharishi once said that he could enlighten someone in minutes, but it would take 4 strong men to hold the person down as they transform, and would be too much for the person. Which ties in what Bob has been saying about Maharishi rieghning in the fast progress of evolution for the world. OffWorld You would burn up instantly - Maharishi, Germany 1982. Answering a question from an impatient soul why he just didn't make us all enlightened right away. 2 much tapas? tapas n. warmth , heat ([EMAIL PROTECTED] , the 5 fires to which a devotee exposes himself in the hot season , viz. 4 fires lighted in the four quarters and the sun burning from above Mn. vi , 23 R. BhP. iv BrahmaP. ; cf. Ragh. xiii , 41) RV. AV. VS. Sa1n3khS3r. ; pain , suffering RV. vii , 82 , 7 ; religious austerity , bodily mortification , penance , severe meditation , special observance (e.g. ` sacred learning ' with Bra1hmans , ` protection of subjects ' with Kshatriyas , ` giving alms to Bra1hmans ' with Vais3yas , ` service ' with S3u1dras , and ` feeding upon herbs and roots ' with R2ishis Mn. xi , 236) RV. ix , 113 , 2 ; x (personified , 83 , 2 f. 101 , 1 , ` father of Manyu ' RAnukr.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM reputationon wikipedia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You avoided the question directed at you. This makes you either a chicken, a moron or an asshole.. Make your pick - and do feel free to spread your totalitarian manure elsewhere in the future. Incapble of learning. Sad. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, amarnath anatol_zinc@ wrote: If you notice, MMY 20 steps of ayurveda which includes TM does not iclude Love, Bhakti, Bhajans and SEVA( selfeless service ) all of which are the core of Amma's teachings by example of Her life. The TM program includes following your own religious ...traditions. No frikkin way ! Very few of those don't include Love, devotion, etc... Lol... However, Maharishi's explanation of TM has been that the more you transcend the more your mind is infused with love, devotion etc. God consciousness is love and devotion (to something). He has always said that doing these things as a spiritual exercise is a waste of time, except for some small behavioural rasayana effect that is additional to the much more important transcending. Butthey are STILL good for the person on a relative level of getting along with other people. I venture to say that hugs are a complete waste of time at all levels. I hope you don't have kids I hope you are not teaching children that hugs will bring enlightenment or world peace Lack of hugs will certainly guarantee the lack of enlightenment and world peace. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM reputationon wikipedia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: You avoided the question directed at you. This makes you either a chicken, a moron or an asshole.. Make your pick - and do feel free to spread your totalitarian manure elsewhere in the future. Incapble of learning. Sad. Kinda makes you rethink all the research that claims benefits for long-term TMers, eh? :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel Needs Yogic Fliers to Beat Hizbullah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: from article: According to his Web site, he has demonstrated scientifically that human physiology is made up of the 40 aspects of Veda and Vedic Literature, and that all the infinite organizing powers of all kinds and the whole cosmos are seated in the physiology of every human being. He did THAT SCIENTIFICALLY!!!??? Wow, when is he going to share the SCIENCE of it? FWIW, from the link Bob provided below, I suspect the scientific demonstration of this principle is considered to be the results of Vedic Vibration Technology (or Instant Relief program), reported here: http://www.vedicvibration.com/Research.htm In other words, that Vedic Vibration Technology works is said to be proof that the theory is sound. I didn't read it, BTW. There's a lot of material. On the page Bob cited, Nader claims the studies were rigorous and double-blind. I did do a search for the word blind on the page reporting the studies and didn't find it. I don't have his book. It's WAAAY too expensive. The book would be the theoretical aspect, I think. My impression is that he took the current understanding of the function of the parts of the brain and showed that each had a corresponding relationship to the devas. The Vedic Vibration therapy may be based directly on this understanding of the relationship: a given bit of Vedic literature/mantra is related to a given deva and therefore to a given part of the brain. Each physiological problem associated with that part of the brain (e.g. a physical ailment in your arm is associated with the part of your brain associated with control/sensation of your arm) is influenced by the corresponding Vedic Vibration technique. Just speculation on my part, mind you. Seems to me that's correct, from the Web site Bob cited and the site on the Vedic Vibration Technology it links to with the results of the studies (which are not said to have been published, as far as I can determine). http://www.enmag.org/03/3nader2.htm I seem to recall hearing that Tony's theory had soemthing to do with the Vedic Vibration thing so its not like I was pulling it out of thin air. Right, according to that page there's a direct connection. The concept isn't completely off the wall, IMHO, but the homeopathic aspect feels a bit off to me. What homeopathic aspect? Seem to recall a description of the treatment thatsuggested such a thing. The URL doesn't say what I recall reading. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM reputationon wikipedia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: You avoided the question directed at you. This makes you either a chicken, a moron or an asshole.. Make your pick - and do feel free to spread your totalitarian manure elsewhere in the future. Incapble of learning. Sad. Kinda makes you rethink all the research that claims benefits for long-term TMers, eh? :-) The exceptions prove the rule. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blue states secession Quebeck Prince Rupert lands
I Quebec were to secede fro federal Canada Prince Rupert land give Quebec upon gainedjoining the proposed Unionwould or could revert to the crown as well as the eastern townships gained to Quebec @ that time as an inducement to join the confederationThis is noted in the BNA act. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM reputationon wikipedia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: You avoided the question directed at you. This makes you either a chicken, a moron or an asshole.. Make your pick - and do feel free to spread your totalitarian manure elsewhere in the future. Incapble of learning. Sad. Kinda makes you rethink all the research that claims benefits for long-term TMers, eh? :-) Yer gonna need knee-replacement surgery soon, Barry. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM reputationon wikipedia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: You avoided the question directed at you. This makes you either a chicken, a moron or an asshole.. Make your pick - and do feel free to spread your totalitarian manure elsewhere in the future. Incapble of learning. Sad. Kinda makes you rethink all the research that claims benefits for long-term TMers, eh? :-) The exceptions prove the rule. Yeah, right. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM reputationon wikipedia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: You avoided the question directed at you. This makes you either a chicken, a moron or an asshole.. Make your pick - and do feel free to spread your totalitarian manure elsewhere in the future. Incapble of learning. Sad. Shall we initiate a study on the effects of the long term practice or TM? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blue states buzz over secession
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm all for it! USB United States of Bliss. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blue states buzz over secession
In a message dated 7/24/06 1:10:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Curiously, there is a school of thought -- led by none other than Ben Stein of "Win Ben Stein's money" fame -- that the attempt at secession by the South in the 1860s was entirely legit. I believe that the jist of it is that the residual power in the constitution --that's the power that says that anything not explicitly given to the federal government goes to the states -- would go to the states because there is no mention of who has power over secession in the constitution. So... Yes, See the Declaration of Independence. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blue states buzz over secession
In a message dated 7/23/06 11:55:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20041109-122753-5113r.htmhttp://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/01/25/secession/index.html?pn=4http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo103.htmlhttp://www.californiasecession.org/http://www.thenation.com/doc/20041213/salehttp://www.confederateamericanpride.com/case4secession.htmlhttp://www.theihs.org/libertyguide/article.php/729.htmlhttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/6/3/17568/04317http://www.oxfordscholarship.com/oso/public/content/politicalscience/0198293844/toc.htmlhttp://www.alternet.org/story/1453110 Most Bitchin' Reasons California Becoming Its Own Country Would BeSo Cool* Four words: Vice President Nancy Pelosi.* State and local legislatures already extremely comfortablesetting foreign policy.* Our own armed services. Eastwood, Schwarzenegger, Stallone orWillis in charge?* Opening weekend foreign distribution movie figures go way up.* You want a war. I got a war for you. We invade Florida fororange juice supremacy. Then take on Wisconsin for that whole cheesedeal. Then France. For the wine? No, for the hell of it. Because nowit's in our blood.* Our own intelligence agency. Imagine the allure of an assignmentto one of our undercover cells in Reno.* Can extradite and convict Enron CEO, Ken Lay, at our own warcrimes tribunal.* We charge a fee on every foreigner trying out as a contestant on"Wheel of Fortune." Call it a stupid tax.* Bechtel (a California based concern) builds a Great Wall rightdown the middle of Lake Tahoe. Screw the corner. Straight line. Northto south.* We outlaw Fox News as a foreign propaganda tool.http://www.slate.com/id/2109317/ Go for it! __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Guru Dev links / MMY links more
A site for sore eyes http://brahmanandashiva.tripod.com/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] sigh...
http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2006/07/24/ remote_kibbutz_sees_return_of_bad_times/ http://tinyurl.com/f283p [...] Tiberias, usually a bustling tourist city on the Sea of Galilee, is a ghost town. Practitioners of Transcendental Meditation sit in the only open hotel, striving to create a spiritual shield against incoming missiles. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM reputationon wikipedia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: You avoided the question directed at you. This makes you either a chicken, a moron or an asshole.. Make your pick - and do feel free to spread your totalitarian manure elsewhere in the future. Incapble of learning. Sad. Kinda makes you rethink all the research that claims benefits for long-term TMers, eh? :-) The exceptions prove the rule. Yeah, right. :-) Quick, tell me what that phrase means... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blue states buzz over secession
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/24/06 1:10:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Curiously, there is a school of thought -- led by none other than Ben Stein of Win Ben Stein's money fame -- that the attempt at secession by the South in the 1860s was entirely legit. I believe that the jist of it is that the residual power in the constitution -- that's the power that says that anything not explicitly given to the federal government goes to the states -- would go to the states because there is no mention of who has power over secession in the constitution. So... Yes, See the Declaration of Independence. And in addition to that, the, the argument goes, the Treaty with Britian after Rev War explicily was with 13 free independent sovereign entities / nations. Soveriegty was maintained in Articles of Confederation. When the 13 nations seceeded from the Confederation of States, they did not explicitly give up their sovereign natures. Thus they have the right to suceed. Jefferson wrote about such a right into the early 1800's -- as did many others. And of course, regardless of constitutionality, sucession could happen if the mother nation simply does not object. In the years preceeding the civil war, many, including Horace Greely, and many abolitionists, advocated let them go peacefully. Its Lincoln's argument that the ex-colonies soverign states' agreement to adopt the Constitution and enter the union was irrevokable and eternal that does not find any basis in the Consitution, or the ethos and mindset of free men and entities -- or even basic logic. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blue states buzz over secession
Re: Blue states buzz over secession --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/24/06 1:10:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Curiously, there is a school of thought -- led by none other than Ben Stein of Win Ben Stein's money fame -- that the attempt at secession by the South in the 1860s was entirely legit. I believe that the jist of it is that the residual power in the constitution -- that's the power that says that anything not explicitly given to the federal government goes to the states -- would go to the states because there is no mention of who has power over secession in the constitution. So... Yes, See the Declaration of Independence. And in addition to that, the argument goes, the Treaty with Britian after Rev War explicitly was with 13 free independent sovereign entities / nations. Soveriegnty was maintained in Articles of Confederation. When the 13 nations seceeded from the Confederation of States, they did not explicitly give up their sovereign natures. Thus they have the right to seceed. Jefferson wrote about such a right into the early 1800's -- as did many others. And of course, regardless of constitutionality, secession could happen if the mother nation simply does not object. In the years preceeding the civil war, many, including Horace Greely, and many abolitionists, advocated let them go peacefully. Its Lincoln's argument that the ex-colonies / soverign states' agreement to adopt the Constitution and enter the union was irrevokable and eternal that does not find any basis in the Consitution, or the ethos and mindset of free men and entities -- or even basic logic. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: sigh...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2006/07/24/ remote_kibbutz_sees_return_of_bad_times/ http://tinyurl.com/f283p [...] Tiberias, usually a bustling tourist city on the Sea of Galilee, is a ghost town. Practitioners of Transcendental Meditation sit in the only open hotel, striving to create a spiritual shield against incoming missiles. Sigh, indeed. On the one hand, one cannot help but be inspired by the faith of these people, after all of the years and all of the follies, that sitting in a war zone and doing their siddhis will not only keep them safe, but will bring peace to the whole region. On the other, one cannot help but wonder what Maharishi would say if these same people, so full of faith in him and the things he has told them, were to be struck by one of the incoming missiles. Would he even notice? I honestly do not know, and that makes *me* sigh. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blue states buzz over secession
In a message dated 7/24/06 9:23:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And of course, regardless of constitutionality, secession could happenif the "mother nation" simply does not object. In the years preceedingthe civil war, many, including Horace Greely, and many abolitionists,advocated "let them go peacefully".Its Lincoln's argument that the ex-colonies / soverign states'agreement to adopt the Constitution and enter the union wasirrevokable and eternal that does not find any basis in theConsitution, or the ethos and mindset of free men and entities -- oreven basic logic. While I can't give the exact quote or source of quote supposedly Lincoln at one time said those states in the South can have their confederacy as long as they continue to pay the federal tariff, which he had just doubled. The war was over economics, not some grand idea that the Union was inseparable or the slaves needed to be free. Secession by mutual agreement would also be a horse of a different color as well. I've been saying since the 2000 election that eventually the Blue states would make an effort to secede because our political differences are too great. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM reputationon wikipedia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: You avoided the question directed at you. This makes you either a chicken, a moron or an asshole.. Make your pick - and do feel free to spread your totalitarian manure elsewhere in the future. Incapble of learning. Sad. Kinda makes you rethink all the research that claims benefits for long-term TMers, eh? :-) The exceptions prove the rule. Yeah, right. :-) Quick, tell me what that phrase means... The pompous professor was explaining the rules of grammar in his normal, boring fashion, lulling most of the class to sleep. Noticing this, he banged on the blackboard to wake the class up and continued, As I was saying, A double negative occurs when two forms of negation are used in the same sentence. The two negatives resolve to a positive. However, there is no known instance in the English language of a double positive resolving to a negative. From the back of the lecture hall, one of the students said quietly, Yeah, right. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: sigh...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2006/07/24/ remote_kibbutz_sees_return_of_bad_times/ http://tinyurl.com/f283p [...] Tiberias, usually a bustling tourist city on the Sea of Galilee, is a ghost town. Practitioners of Transcendental Meditation sit in the only open hotel, striving to create a spiritual shield against incoming missiles. Sigh, indeed. On the one hand, one cannot help but be inspired by the faith of these people, after all of the years and all of the follies, that sitting in a war zone and doing their siddhis will not only keep them safe, but will bring peace to the whole region. On the other, one cannot help but wonder what Maharishi would say if these same people, so full of faith in him and the things he has told them, were to be struck by one of the incoming missiles. Would he even notice? I honestly do not know, and that makes *me* sigh. You fool! How could missles possibly break through the invisible shield of invincibility! Don't you know ANYTHING about science. The Meisner effect proves the yogic flyers cannot be hit. Intense coherence will deflect any entropy. Didn't you even see the on TV in the 50's the invisible shield effect Colgate proved existed. Jeez, its really tiring arguing with anti-science dogmatic morons. :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blue states buzz over secession
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/24/06 9:23:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And of course, regardless of constitutionality, secession could happen if the mother nation simply does not object. In the years preceeding the civil war, many, including Horace Greely, and many abolitionists, advocated let them go peacefully. Its Lincoln's argument that the ex-colonies / soverign states' agreement to adopt the Constitution and enter the union was irrevokable and eternal that does not find any basis in the Consitution, or the ethos and mindset of free men and entities -- or even basic logic. While I can't give the exact quote or source of quote supposedly Lincoln at one time said those states in the South can have their confederacy as long as they continue to pay the federal tariff, which he had just doubled. If you can find that quote, please post. The war was over economics, not some grand idea that the Union was inseparable or the slaves needed to be free. Yes. See points and books cited in my Lincoln posts. Secession by mutual agreement would also be a horse of a different color as well. I've been saying since the 2000 election that eventually the Blue states would make an effort to secede because our political differences are too great. Or the Reds might do so first. Especially Texas. You guys have so much experience. Seceeding from Mexico, joining the Union, seceeding from the Union, etc... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: sigh...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2006/07/24/ remote_kibbutz_sees_return_of_bad_times/ http://tinyurl.com/f283p [...] Tiberias, usually a bustling tourist city on the Sea of Galilee, is a ghost town. Practitioners of Transcendental Meditation sit in the only open hotel, striving to create a spiritual shield against incoming missiles. Sigh, indeed. On the one hand, one cannot help but be inspired by the faith of these people, after all of the years and all of the follies, that sitting in a war zone and doing their siddhis will not only keep them safe, but will bring peace to the whole region. On the other, one cannot help but wonder what Maharishi would say if these same people, so full of faith in him and the things he has told them, were to be struck by one of the incoming missiles. Would he even notice? I honestly do not know, and that makes *me* sigh. You fool! How could missles possibly break through the invisible shield of invincibility! Don't you know ANYTHING about science. The Meisner effect proves the yogic flyers cannot be hit. Intense coherence will deflect any entropy. Didn't you even see the on TV in the 50's the invisible shield effect Colgate proved existed. Jeez, its really tiring arguing with anti-science dogmatic morons. :) Well said. Isn't faith a fascinating phenomenon? I mean, really, these people are fuckin' INSPIRING, man! Such FAITH! Such a strong belief that doing their TM or doing their siddhis or both will not only protect them, but will (I'm sorry...this is a serious subject and I don't want to make too light of it, but I cannot help to use a phrase someone coined here) radiate enough Foo Foo Rays to bring coherence to the region and settle things down. That's pretty astounding, on the level of faith, and to be admired from that point of view. I would be willing to bet that many of these people there are *very* scientific and rational in their daily lives, but their faith in what they've been told is so strong that they resist the scientific, rational urge to get the fuck out of there. From the point of view of faith, that's an act of extraordinary courage and a statement about how strongly they believe the things they believe. From other points of view, probably including their own as the missles whistle overhead, it's folly. I'm still in Bruce Cockburn mode, so the line that springs to my mind when contemplating this strange rock that we find ourselves living on and its contradictions is from one of his songs: This bluegreen ball in black space Filled with beauty even now battered and abused and lovely Earth. Go figure. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reputationon wikipedia
Both you guys need to either get out more often or you need to get laid. I'm not sure which one it is. --- peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You avoided the question directed at you. This makes you either a chicken, a moron or an asshole.. Make your pick - and do feel free to spread your totalitarian manure elsewhere in the future. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: You log in with an anonymous IP AFTER being banned from making edits, and do full- scale reverts. Lame. BTW do you always refer to yourself in the 3rd person? I know a few enlightened types do that on occasion but you're sure not coming accross that way. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Does anyone know Peter Klutz personally? He's engaging in non-stop vandalism on wikipedia. I do (I think). Before the propaganda by wikipeda et al makes you fully brainwashed, here'sa recap followed by some assorted comments: (1) PK started out like he supposed most other people start with making contributions at WP, with the innocent joy of creating something only a newbie can muster. He was immediatelly attacked by numerous accounts accusing him of vandalism and violations of whatever rules exist at wikipedia. It would take PK a month or so to realize that he had skipped right into a carefully moulded minefield. Because this is what WP apparently has petrified into: controversial articles have been appropriated by clicques of people who scream bloody murder and throw the V word at anyone who thinks he or she can contribute, whilst ingratiating themselves with admins. True to his nature (but unfortunatelly still too innocent for this world) PK became pissed off at these attacks and held his ground. His greatest mistake, however, was to take the allegations against TM and MMY at face value and investigate the sources. When this was done - and it was apparent that the TM and MMY articels have been kidnapped by entities dedicatedly hostile to TM etc - he said so. The rest, as it is said, is history. (2) Instead of caving in to the constant barrage of allegations against PK, sparaig, take a couple of steps back and review the situation. Here are a few suggestions: a. compare Mr Skolnicks interpretation of wikipedia rules with the rules themselves. When you do this, you're actually going to learn that what S is trying to portray as rules are in fact more like guidelines - guidelines found on pages that can actually be edited and thus changed by anyone. Perhaps more surprisingly, you will also come across the word bold, which is how Mr Jimbo Wales, want's your contributions to be like (and there's a backdrop to my questions to Bishonento what'sgone wrong with WP - duly deleted by S). b. compare PK's NPA violations with S violations or even those of some of the admins. c. PK's view on what's going on at WP is that it is a social experiement gone terrbiely wrong: S and his admins has rapidly formed a secterian-minded group based on hate toward outsiders (in this case people they label TMers) where relations are now so tight that S feel comfortable enough to publicly joke about his gratitude of the admins at WP for their willingess to enroll in S's personal axis of evil of Jewish-Christian fundamentalism. PK's take on the situation is that the phenomenon is akin to how people a few hundred years ago worked up a frenzy in order to be able to torch witches at the stake. I say this half-jokiugly, but the discrepancy between PK's contributions per se and how they are described by S adn assorted WP admins has to be seen to be believed. So has the bile produced at WP over it all. d. Finally, how many people actually read the TM and MMY articles at WP? I'd be surprised if anyone outside a circle made up of yourself, Bishonen and other WP admins - and S - do this. Never mind the mosquitoues - shoot the tiger. Why engage in pointless communications with the mosquitoes of this world, when you can go to DC or FF? PK Who appointed Andrew Skolnick and wikipedia the arbitrators of free speech? The owner of Wikipedia controls wikipedia, and people who play by his rules get to continue playing. BTW,
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM reputationon wikipedia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both you guys need to either get out more often or you need to get laid. I'm not sure which one it is. Why not get out *and* get laid? It's summer. :-) --- peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You avoided the question directed at you. This makes you either a chicken, a moron or an asshole.. Make your pick - and do feel free to spread your totalitarian manure elsewhere in the future. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: You log in with an anonymous IP AFTER being banned from making edits, and do full- scale reverts. Lame. BTW do you always refer to yourself in the 3rd person? I know a few enlightened types do that on occasion but you're sure not coming accross that way. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Does anyone know Peter Klutz personally? He's engaging in non-stop vandalism on wikipedia. I do (I think). Before the propaganda by wikipeda et al makes you fully brainwashed, here'sa recap followed by some assorted comments: (1) PK started out like he supposed most other people start with making contributions at WP, with the innocent joy of creating something only a newbie can muster. He was immediatelly attacked by numerous accounts accusing him of vandalism and violations of whatever rules exist at wikipedia. It would take PK a month or so to realize that he had skipped right into a carefully moulded minefield. Because this is what WP apparently has petrified into: controversial articles have been appropriated by clicques of people who scream bloody murder and throw the V word at anyone who thinks he or she can contribute, whilst ingratiating themselves with admins. True to his nature (but unfortunatelly still too innocent for this world) PK became pissed off at these attacks and held his ground. His greatest mistake, however, was to take the allegations against TM and MMY at face value and investigate the sources. When this was done - and it was apparent that the TM and MMY articels have been kidnapped by entities dedicatedly hostile to TM etc - he said so. The rest, as it is said, is history. (2) Instead of caving in to the constant barrage of allegations against PK, sparaig, take a couple of steps back and review the situation. Here are a few suggestions: a. compare Mr Skolnicks interpretation of wikipedia rules with the rules themselves. When you do this, you're actually going to learn that what S is trying to portray as rules are in fact more like guidelines - guidelines found on pages that can actually be edited and thus changed by anyone. Perhaps more surprisingly, you will also come across the word bold, which is how Mr Jimbo Wales, want's your contributions to be like (and there's a backdrop to my questions to Bishonento what'sgone wrong with WP - duly deleted by S). b. compare PK's NPA violations with S violations or even those of some of the admins. c. PK's view on what's going on at WP is that it is a social experiement gone terrbiely wrong: S and his admins has rapidly formed a secterian-minded group based on hate toward outsiders (in this case people they label TMers) where relations are now so tight that S feel comfortable enough to publicly joke about his gratitude of the admins at WP for their willingess to enroll in S's personal axis of evil of Jewish-Christian fundamentalism. PK's take on the situation is that the phenomenon is akin to how people a few hundred years ago worked up a frenzy in order to be able to torch witches at the stake. I say this half-jokiugly, but the discrepancy between PK's contributions per se and how they are described by S adn assorted WP admins has to be seen to be believed. So has the bile produced at WP over it all. d. Finally, how many people actually read the TM and MMY articles at WP? I'd be surprised if anyone outside a circle made up of yourself, Bishonen and other WP admins - and S - do this. Never mind the mosquitoues - shoot the tiger. Why engage in pointless communications with the
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM reputationon wikipedia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Both you guys need to either get out more often or you need to get laid. I'm not sure which one it is. Why not get out *and* get laid? It's summer. :-) First, I need that Vedic Vibration method that overcomes the ageism incoherence of the residing deity of 20ish blondes. I did read them key parts of the laws of Manu to some this weekend -- but with little effect. (But Heather, its natural law!) And maybe that Mojo VV technique would be handy. (I tried whispering Mo mojo for NewMo but its results could not be considered hard science.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: STATE OF EMERGENCY--IMMEDIATE ACTION NEEDED
Shoulda known you've been there done that. Being on the water at night is meditation. (but not the trademarked TM practice of course!) The weather has broken here so I plan to get out on the Potomac this week. I often have parts of that beautiful river to myself. I used to be so afraid of the river cuz there are some sections that eat people occasionally. But most of it is friendly. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Not yet, but there is a place to rent kayaks just down the road from me, so I will probably try it this summer. Thanks for the reminder. Don't miss it. Paddling on a beautiful river or lake is like working out in a cathedral. Tell me about it. I used to live on a private lake in Westchester...only four houses on the lake. I would take the canoe out at night and sit there in the middle of the lake meditating. Interesting that the position used for canoeing (kneeling) is the same as in Zazen. The funny thing is that so few people take advantage of being on the water that even here in DC I can be completely alone on the water just minutes from the city. You see lots of wildlife, and he workout is fantastic. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reputationon wikipedia
On Jul 24, 2006, at 11:40 AM, new.morning wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Both you guys need to either get out more often or you need to get laid. I'm not sure which one it is. Why not get out *and* get laid? It's summer. :-) First, I need that Vedic Vibration method that overcomes the ageism incoherence of the residing deity of 20ish blondes. I did read them key parts of the laws of Manu to some this weekend -- but with little effect. ("But Heather, its natural law!") And maybe that Mojo VV technique would be handy. (I tried whispering "Mo mojo for NewMo" but its results could not be considered hard science.) For around 5000 USD we could have a Venus yagya performed for the object of your affections...
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[FairfieldLife] Alternative to the Domes, Is David Hawthorns place recognised 4 group hopping?
David Hawthorne's Tetra Bldg group meditation. It has been going for several years as an alternative place to meditate/ do TM-Sidhi program. David and some others sponsor it. The numbers have varied over the years. 6,8,10,12 active users. Cost now is a buck a time or $25 per month. It is real nice as a space. Conveniant location and unaffiliated with the TM.org. The TMO/MUM behavior, from MMY on down, in FF has really been pretty appalling with the meditating community. In watching the Tetra alternative TM/sidhi program, over time about half of the users could register and go to the Dome program but chose instead not to be associated with the campus/TM.org program. Otherwise too it has been more flexible for people who work until 5pm or after to still be able to get in to program for a meditation in the afternoons. Can have beards or wear jeans too. Visit other saints. A big plus is that the numbers or the money do not *enable* the TM.org The program there is run as a very nice haven which is not the movement. Just some people of goodwill as meditators/sidhas. The irony is that now where MMY is told about David Hawthorne's meditation hall and MMY commends that David is in *alignment* with MMY's thinking. Hah, looks now much more like MMY is forced to be more in alignment with people like Davids' thinking to rally people back to doing his (MMY's) meditation program. Alternative likewise, with the Devi Mandir meditation room for group meditation. Very nice places untainted with the TMO. Jai Guru Dev, -Doug --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How may are @ David's place ? ... ... I understand that Maharishi reorganizes it David was commented for its start continuation as well by Maharishi in the last several months. Is that not correct? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM reputationon wikipedia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 24, 2006, at 11:40 AM, new.morning wrote: First, I need that Vedic Vibration method that overcomes the ageism incoherence of the residing deity of 20ish blondes. I did read them key parts of the laws of Manu to some this weekend -- but with little effect. (But Heather, its natural law!) And maybe that Mojo VV technique would be handy. (I tried whispering Mo mojo for NewMo but its results could not be considered hard science.) For around 5000 USD we could have a Venus yagya performed for the object of your affections... $5000 and Maria Sharapova will marry me?!!! Deal! Those are some strong Foo Foo rays that yagya must have. http://www.maria-sharapova.org/photoalbum.php Let me add $1000 for my friend Barry so he can marry Catherine Deneuve. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/possumblog/People/catherine_deneuve.jpg Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So there is no global warming, eh?
uns_tressor wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatdya call this? Summer? Yeah, it may be summer but the climatologists are saying the excessive heatwave (with no end in site BTW) is due to global warming. But hell we all know it is the Rapture so all you righties better get your duds off and stand around outside to wait for Jeezuss as you don't want to miss it! Heatwave? In Iowa? Blimey. We're having one here in the UK. Hottest July day since 1911. 36 degrees. I thought it was just us. There is something very serious going on. Uns. Yes, looking at world wide temperatures it seems to be pretty much effecting the northern hemisphere. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting phenomena on thread : Flying vs. Hopping
Are and Spraig playing stump the teacher? That is so cute. Whatever distinction you are making has no relevance to my life or my point. It is a desperate attempt to make it seem like I somehow never understood TM like you guys do. If that makes you happy to believe that, I couldn't care less. To quote a great saint from this very group: Both you guys need to either get out more often or you need to get laid. I'm not sure which one it is. I also liked Turq's idea that you might want to combine the two concepts. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Right. I am familiar with the basic mechanics of TM. Then how come you got it wrong? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: OK. I thought you were joking. Transcending is the cornorstone of MMY's program. It is the single most important part of his teaching. It is considered going to the home of all knowldedge and all the laws of nature. It is going to the highest first. It is watering the root so you can enjoy the fruit. It is pulling back the bow so you can let the arrow of activity fly. It is the rest before activity. It is capturing the fort so you can enjoy all the silver and gold mines. Come on Spraig help me out here. You are a sharp guy. What are you talking about? MMY considers transcending Valuable. As long as you are doing the technique correctly, transcending is no more valueable than being lost in thoughts... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM reputationon wikipedia
Did you just call dibs on Maria? Damn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jul 24, 2006, at 11:40 AM, new.morning wrote: First, I need that Vedic Vibration method that overcomes the ageism incoherence of the residing deity of 20ish blondes. I did read them key parts of the laws of Manu to some this weekend -- but with little effect. (But Heather, its natural law!) And maybe that Mojo VV technique would be handy. (I tried whispering Mo mojo for NewMo but its results could not be considered hard science.) For around 5000 USD we could have a Venus yagya performed for the object of your affections... $5000 and Maria Sharapova will marry me?!!! Deal! Those are some strong Foo Foo rays that yagya must have. http://www.maria-sharapova.org/photoalbum.php Let me add $1000 for my friend Barry so he can marry Catherine Deneuve. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/possumblog/People/catherine_deneuve.jpg Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev links / MMY links more
Very interesting. King Tony does a pretty good MMY impersonation. I would love a side by side comparison of how he talked when he joined the movement and now. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A site for sore eyes http://brahmanandashiva.tripod.com/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Global Warming: Signed, Sealed, and Delivered
From the Los Angeles Times Global Warming -- Signed, Sealed and Delivered Scientists agree: The Earth is warming, and human activities are the principal cause. By Naomi Oreskes NAOMI ORESKES is a history of science professor at UC San Diego. July 24, 2006 AN OP-ED article in the Wall Street Journal a month ago claimed that a published study affirming the existence of a scientific consensus on the reality of global warming had been refuted. This charge was repeated again last week, in a hearing of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce. I am the author of that study, which appeared two years ago in the journal Science, and I'm here to tell you that the consensus stands. The argument put forward in the Wall Street Journal was based on an Internet posting; it has not appeared in a peer-reviewed journal the normal way to challenge an academic finding. (The Wall Street Journal didn't even get my name right!) My study demonstrated that there is no significant disagreement within the scientific community that the Earth is warming and that human activities are the principal cause. Papers that continue to rehash arguments that have already been addressed and questions that have already been answered will, of course, be rejected by scientific journals, and this explains my findings. Not a single paper in a large sample of peer-reviewed scientific journals between 1993 and 2003 refuted the consensus position, summarized by the National Academy of Sciences, that most of the observed warming of the last 50 years is likely to have been due to the increase in greenhouse gas concentrations. Since the 1950s, scientists have understood that greenhouse gases produced by burning fossil fuels could have serious effects on Earth's climate. When the 1980s proved to be the hottest decade on record, and as predictions of climate models started to come true, scientists increasingly saw global warming as cause for concern To be sure, there are a handful of scientists, including MIT professor Richard Lindzen, the author of the Wall Street Journal editorial, who disagree with the rest of the scientific community. To a historian of science like me, this is not surprising. In any scientific community, there are always some individuals who simply refuse to accept new ideas and evidence. This is especially true when the new evidence strikes at their core beliefs and values A historical example will help to make the point. In the 1920s, the distinguished Cambridge geophysicist Harold Jeffreys rejected the idea of continental drift on the grounds of physical impossibility. In the 1950s, geologists and geophysicists began to accumulate overwhelming evidence of the reality of continental motion, even though the physics of it was poorly understood. By the late 1960s, the theory of plate tectonics was on the road to near-universal acceptance. Yet Jeffreys, by then Sir Harold, stubbornly refused to accept the new evidence, repeating his old arguments about the impossibility of the thing. He was a great man, but he had become a scientific mule. For a while, journals continued to publish Jeffreys' arguments, but after a while he had nothing new to say. He died denying plate tectonics. The scientific debate was over Read the entire op-ed at: http://tinyurl.com/nofz5 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting phenomena on thread : Flying vs. Hopping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are and Spraig playing stump the teacher? That is so cute. Whatever distinction you are making has no relevance to my life or my point. It is a desperate attempt to make it seem like I somehow never understood TM like you guys do. If that makes you happy to believe that, I couldn't care less. Says Curtis, launching an ad hominem attack (shooting the messenger) instead of admitting that he got it wrong. Such integrity! To quote a great saint from this very group: Both you guys need to either get out more often or you need to get laid. I'm not sure which one it is. I also liked Turq's idea that you might want to combine the two concepts. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Right. I am familiar with the basic mechanics of TM. Then how come you got it wrong? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: OK. I thought you were joking. Transcending is the cornorstone of MMY's program. It is the single most important part of his teaching. It is considered going to the home of all knowldedge and all the laws of nature. It is going to the highest first. It is watering the root so you can enjoy the fruit. It is pulling back the bow so you can let the arrow of activity fly. It is the rest before activity. It is capturing the fort so you can enjoy all the silver and gold mines. Come on Spraig help me out here. You are a sharp guy. What are you talking about? MMY considers transcending Valuable. As long as you are doing the technique correctly, transcending is no more valueable than being lost in thoughts... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM reputationon wikipedia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: For around 5000 USD we could have a Venus yagya performed for the object of your affections... $5000 and Maria Sharapova will marry me?!!! Deal! Those are some strong Foo Foo rays that yagya must have. http://www.maria-sharapova.org/photoalbum.php Let me add $1000 for my friend Barry so he can marry Catherine Deneuve. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/possumblog/People/catherine_deneuve.jpg If she still looked like that (I reckon that this photo was taken around the time of 'Repulsion,' her absolute prime), I'd reimburse you the grand. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting phenomena on thread : Flying vs. Hopping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Are and Spraig playing stump the teacher? That is so cute. Whatever distinction you are making has no relevance to my life or my point. It is a desperate attempt to make it seem like I somehow never understood TM like you guys do. If that makes you happy to believe that, I couldn't care less. Says Curtis, launching an ad hominem attack (shooting the messenger) instead of admitting that he got it wrong. Such integrity! Compare and contrast the state of consciousness, compassion, courage, and just plain humanity of this statement and its defender of the TM faith author to those TMers sitting in a hotel in a war zone in Israel, putting their beliefs -- and yes, integrity -- on the line. Interesting comparison, eh? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reputationon wikipedia
On Jul 24, 2006, at 12:19 PM, new.morning wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 24, 2006, at 11:40 AM, new.morning wrote: First, I need that Vedic Vibration method that overcomes the ageism incoherence of the residing deity of 20ish blondes. I did read them key parts of the laws of Manu to some this weekend -- but with little effect. ("But Heather, its natural law!") And maybe that Mojo VV technique would be handy. (I tried whispering "Mo mojo for NewMo" but its results could not be considered hard science.) For around 5000 USD we could have a Venus yagya performed for the object of your affections... $5000 and Maria Sharapova will marry me?!!! Deal! Those are some strong Foo Foo rays that yagya must have. Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize you meant *marry*. That'll take about 108 yogic flyers at the same time. I'll have to get back to on a price.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, amarnath anatol_zinc@ wrote: If you notice, MMY 20 steps of ayurveda which includes TM does not iclude Love, Bhakti, Bhajans and SEVA( selfeless service ) all of which are the core of Amma's teachings by example of Her life. The TM program includes following your own religious ...traditions. No frikkin way ! Very few of those don't include Love, devotion, etc... Lol... However, Maharishi's explanation of TM has been that the more you transcend the more your mind is infused with love, devotion etc. God consciousness is love and devotion (to something). He has always said that doing these things as a spiritual exercise is a waste of time, except for some small behavioural rasayana effect that is additional to the much more important transcending. Butthey are STILL good for the person on a relative level of getting along with other people. I venture to say that hugs are a complete waste of time at all levels. I hope you don't have kids I hope you are not teaching children that hugs will bring enlightenment or world peace Lack of hugs will certainly guarantee the lack of enlightenment and world peace. The Israelis hug their children, the Hezbollah hug their children, Bush hugs everyone, are contributing to world peace?gimme a break OffWorld OffWorld Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting phenomena on thread : Flying vs. Hopping
Says Curtis, launching an ad hominem attack (shooting the messenger) instead of admitting that he got it wrong. Such integrity! Says the pot to the kettle. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Are and Spraig playing stump the teacher? That is so cute. Whatever distinction you are making has no relevance to my life or my point. It is a desperate attempt to make it seem like I somehow never understood TM like you guys do. If that makes you happy to believe that, I couldn't care less. Says Curtis, launching an ad hominem attack (shooting the messenger) instead of admitting that he got it wrong. Such integrity! To quote a great saint from this very group: Both you guys need to either get out more often or you need to get laid. I'm not sure which one it is. I also liked Turq's idea that you might want to combine the two concepts. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Right. I am familiar with the basic mechanics of TM. Then how come you got it wrong? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: OK. I thought you were joking. Transcending is the cornorstone of MMY's program. It is the single most important part of his teaching. It is considered going to the home of all knowldedge and all the laws of nature. It is going to the highest first. It is watering the root so you can enjoy the fruit. It is pulling back the bow so you can let the arrow of activity fly. It is the rest before activity. It is capturing the fort so you can enjoy all the silver and gold mines. Come on Spraig help me out here. You are a sharp guy. What are you talking about? MMY considers transcending Valuable. As long as you are doing the technique correctly, transcending is no more valueable than being lost in thoughts... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blue states buzz over secession
In a message dated 7/24/06 9:58:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Secession by mutual agreement would also be a horse of a different color as well. I've been saying since the 2000election that eventually the Blue states would make an effort to secede because our political differences are too great.Or the Reds might do so first. Especially Texas. You guys have so muchexperience. Seceeding from Mexico, joining the Union, seceeding fromthe Union, etc... No, we learned our lesson! We'll just let the blue states do it this time andwon't raise a fuss. Can you imagine the mass migration of people from one region to another? __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Thin soup and engaging in non-stop vandalism, on FFL?
It is a method, wikipedia and non-stop vandalism. Sort of like series of posts on FFL un-related to anything FFL? Though Rick has set the forum here up for anything in the homepage description Pretty much any topic is fair game. Pretty much. Whatever you think, it's more than that It has become thin soup. FI, what wass that recent Lincoln post connection to FFL? Did i miss something in that post? Did the author take a moment anywhere in the post to make a connection to something FFL? Were the global warming ones about peer review research or something, sort of like the TMO's use of peer review or were they about the weather in FF or in some other places where the sunshines on things FFL related? There are so many posts and threads here unrelated to anything FFL that it is hard to keep track of FFL anymore. Rick you are just too dang permissive for this to still be much of a useful place, starting back on the home page. Fly the 'guidelines' file again may be? -Doug in FF Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM reputationon wikipedia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: For around 5000 USD we could have a Venus yagya performed for the object of your affections... $5000 and Maria Sharapova will marry me?!!! Deal! Those are some strong Foo Foo rays that yagya must have. http://www.maria-sharapova.org/photoalbum.php Let me add $1000 for my friend Barry so he can marry Catherine Deneuve. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/possumblog/People/catherine_deneuve.jpg If she still looked like that (I reckon that this photo was taken around the time of 'Repulsion,' her absolute prime), I'd reimburse you the grand. Catherine's beauty and grace are eternal. Like the Ved. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Lebanon is not innocent
Lebanon Is Not Innocent By David Horowitz FrontPageMagazine.com | July 24, 2006 In war innocents pay a heavy price. There is no way to fight a war without collateral damage to civilians unless the opposing armies agree to meet in a desert and let the superior force prevail. It certainly cannot be done when the aggressor is a terrorist army that deliberately places its headquarters, its weapons depots, its missile launchers and its staging bases in the middle of large urban centers like Beirut, or in the small villages abutting the border of its victims. Sometimes the death of innocents comes not from collateral damage but from the deliberate targeting of civilians as is almost invariably the case with terrorist armies like Hezbollah and Hamas. In World War II wherever the Wehrmacht went, Jews were rounded up for the slaughter. Guernica and Lidice are the names of innocent towns with no military value that were deliberately destroyed by the fascists. Sometimes innocents are targeted even by civilized armies with military ends in view. The allied bombings of Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima and Nagasaki incinerated hundreds of thousands of civilians for military reasons. The allied bombings were designed to break the morale of the enemy and to end the war, and save millions of lives. They did, and we can all be grateful for that (or at least the honest among us can). Critics of Israel's defensive war against Islamic terrorists are busily wringing their hands over the destruction that has been wreaked on Lebanon, which is portrayed as innocent. They invoke these tragedies while calling on Israel to cease its fire and leave the Hezbollah aggressors intact. Since Israel had no role in starting this war, this is like blaming the Allies for the damage inflicted on Germany in World War II and doing so in the midst of the war. Critics who make such charges and demands in the midst of a war are aiding and abetting the aggressors. But the very idea that Lebanon is an innocent bystander in the war against Israel won't wash. Lebanon is host to the terrorist aggressor which has sworn to eliminate Israel and its Jews from the face of the earth. This is the explicit creed of both Hezbollah and its sponsor Iran. And not just in their charter or in statements made months or years ago. Iran's little dictator reiterated the threat even yesterday in the midst of Islam's aggressive war against the Jews: Israel has pushed the button of its own destruction. The Zionists made their worst decision and triggered their extinction by attacking Lebanon. Hezbollah is part of the Lebanese government, occupying two cabinet positions and seats in its parliament. The Lebanese government agreed to enforce UN Resolution 1559 which calls on it to disarm all militias on its territory, namely Hezbollah. If the Lebanese Government had performed this obligation, there would be no war, and there would be no Lebanese civilian casualties. Instead the Lebanese government allowed Hezbollah to build its headquarters and underground bunkers in the populated neighborhoods of Beirut. It allowed Hezbollah to import 13,000 missiles to be fired into Israel's cities and towns. The 75,000-man Lebanese army has not sealed off the Syrian border and, according to reports, has allowed Syria to re-supply Hezbollah in the midst of its aggression. The Lebanese government has allowed Hezbollah to build underground fortresses on its southern border in position to attack. It has allowed Hezbollah to launch rockets into the towns of northern Israel to terrorize and kill innocent civilians. Israel has done nothing to provoke this attack from Lebananese territory. But in the midst of Hezbollah's aggression against Israel, Lebanon's prime minister has joined the attackers, blaming Israel for Lebanon's misery instead of its source. It will be objected that Lebanon is helpless, that its democracy was destroyed and its territory conquered by the PLO, Hezbollah, Syria and Iran. It will be said that the Lebanese cannot resist the superior force of Hezbollah's state within a state. But this is an argument in bad faith. No one is helpless. When France was occupied by Germany during World War II, DeGaulle organized the free French into a fighting force. The so-called Cedar Revolution showed that there are ways of manifesting opposition and resistance to the occupiers. Even though it failed, it showed that resistance is possible. If there is resistance to Islamic terror in Lebanon today, it is as invisible as moderate Islam. Put bluntly, while the Lebanese have demonstrated their resistance to the Syrian occupier in the very recent past, there has been no evidence of it when the aggressor is an Islamic force bent on obliterating the Jews. The Lebanese army has not lifted a finger to obstruct Hezbollah's aggression, but the Lebanese prime minister has been out front in attacking Israel. Who, watching the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blue states buzz over secession
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Coming from Quebec, I am a somewhat expert on secession, having studied it from a constitutional as well as political viewpoint. One of the first articles mentioned various states such as Oregon and Washington joining Canada. Well, it has been suggested before that those two states join B.C. and Alberta (and possibly others) into a state called Cascadia. Curiously, there is a school of thought -- led by none other than Ben Stein of Win Ben Stein's money fame -- that the attempt at secession by the South in the 1860s was entirely legit. I believe that the jist of it is that the residual power in the constitution -- that's the power that says that anything not explicitly given to the federal government goes to the states -- would go to the states because there is no mention of who has power over secession in the constitution. So... I don't know the specifics of this, Shemp, but when I lived in Canada for three years, it was always explained to me there that the reason that the Quebecois' threat to secede was taken seriously was that the right to do so was actually guaranteed in the Canadian constitution, *as opposed to* the US constitution. I don't know that this is true, but it's how it was explained to me in Toronto, in a couple of cases by attorneys. I'd love to know where in the Canadian Constitution that would be. Canada -- created in 1867 -- came about in large part as a result of the U.S. Civil War where the question of secession was on everyone's mind. No, there is no explicit mention of the right to secession in either the Canadian or U.S. constitutions but the mention of the residual power is clear. Other nations DO mention secession, either explicitly or implicitly. For example, I believe that France clearly states in its constitution that it is indivisible. The former Soviet Union, I believe, explicitly made provision for secession (of course, under its totalitarian watch, it was impossible until the Soviet Union itself dissolved). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting phenomena on thread : Flying vs. Hopping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Says Curtis, launching an ad hominem attack (shooting the messenger) instead of admitting that he got it wrong. Such integrity! Says the pot to the kettle. Hardly. When I make a mistake, I admit it. And I never use ad hominem without also demonstrating how it applies. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Are and Spraig playing stump the teacher? That is so cute. Whatever distinction you are making has no relevance to my life or my point. It is a desperate attempt to make it seem like I somehow never understood TM like you guys do. If that makes you happy to believe that, I couldn't care less. Says Curtis, launching an ad hominem attack (shooting the messenger) instead of admitting that he got it wrong. Such integrity! To quote a great saint from this very group: Both you guys need to either get out more often or you need to get laid. I'm not sure which one it is. I also liked Turq's idea that you might want to combine the two concepts. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Right. I am familiar with the basic mechanics of TM. Then how come you got it wrong? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: OK. I thought you were joking. Transcending is the cornorstone of MMY's program. It is the single most important part of his teaching. It is considered going to the home of all knowldedge and all the laws of nature. It is going to the highest first. It is watering the root so you can enjoy the fruit. It is pulling back the bow so you can let the arrow of activity fly. It is the rest before activity. It is capturing the fort so you can enjoy all the silver and gold mines. Come on Spraig help me out here. You are a sharp guy. What are you talking about? MMY considers transcending Valuable. As long as you are doing the technique correctly, transcending is no more valueable than being lost in thoughts... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blue states buzz over secession
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/24/06 9:23:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And of course, regardless of constitutionality, secession could happen if the mother nation simply does not object. In the years preceeding the civil war, many, including Horace Greely, and many abolitionists, advocated let them go peacefully. Its Lincoln's argument that the ex-colonies / soverign states' agreement to adopt the Constitution and enter the union was irrevokable and eternal that does not find any basis in the Consitution, or the ethos and mindset of free men and entities -- or even basic logic. While I can't give the exact quote or source of quote supposedly Lincoln at one time said those states in the South can have their confederacy as long as they continue to pay the federal tariff, which he had just doubled. The war was over economics, not some grand idea that the Union was inseparable or the slaves needed to be free. Secession by mutual agreement would also be a horse of a different color as well. I've been saying since the 2000 election that eventually the Blue states would make an effort to secede because our political differences are too great. Coming from Quebec -- and being directly in the midst of at least one battle for secession -- I can assure you that the differences between blue and red states are miniscule compared to those between the French of Quebec and the rest of Canada (including the English and ethnics of Quebec who don't consider themselves as part of Quebec). The biggest impression that has ever been made upon me was in June of 1990 when I attended the St-Jean-Baptiste parade on Quebec's national holiday. This was about a week after an important constitutional amendment that was supposed to bring Quebec into Canada's constitutional family had been rejected by several provinces in Canada (it needed unanimous consent). The parade turned into both a protest against this as well as a show of nationalism. Well, talk about cutting it with a knife. The nationalism and hatred against Canada was so palpable that it was something you could actually feel. Hundreds of thousands marched in Montreal...and it was the first time in my life that I experienced first-hand the power of that horrible thing called nationalism or jingoism or whatever it is: collective consciousness for what, to me, was an evil purpose. And it just bowled me over. I know it's not proper or acceptable to make the inevitable Nazi comparison but I will anyway: I had an inkling of what Nuremberg was like when all those Nazis marched (and we saw it in Reifenshtall's Triumph of the Will). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting phenomena on thread : Flying vs. Hopping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Are and Spraig playing stump the teacher? That is so cute. Whatever distinction you are making has no relevance to my life or my point. It is a desperate attempt to make it seem like I somehow never understood TM like you guys do. If that makes you happy to believe that, I couldn't care less. Says Curtis, launching an ad hominem attack (shooting the messenger) instead of admitting that he got it wrong. Such integrity! Compare and contrast the state of consciousness, compassion, courage, and just plain humanity of this statement and its defender of the TM faith author to those TMers sitting in a hotel in a war zone in Israel, putting their beliefs -- and yes, integrity -- on the line. Interesting comparison, eh? Notice Barry does not compare *Curtis's* state of consciousness, compassion, courage, and just plain humanity--not to mention his willingness to put his own beliefs and integrity on the line-- to the Israeli TMers. IOKIFAAT. And of course there's no consideration of the context. Curtis questioned the value of the experience of transcending, suggesting that it's been vastly overrated, when, as a former TM teacher, he ought to know--as Lawson pointed out--that no experience during TM is of any greater value than any other, including random thoughts. That *does* suggest that Curtis was not meditating properly, if he thought there was supposed to be great value in the experience of transcending. This error, uncorrected, might well have served to discourage folks who would otherwise have been in a position at some point to demonstrate their courage and humanity by joining a group practicing the TM-Sidhis in a war zone. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blue states buzz over secession
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coming from Quebec -- and being directly in the midst of at least one battle for secession -- I can assure you that the differences between blue and red states are miniscule compared to those between the French of Quebec and the rest of Canada (including the English and ethnics of Quebec who don't consider themselves as part of Quebec). The biggest impression that has ever been made upon me was in June of 1990 when I attended the St-Jean-Baptiste parade on Quebec's national holiday. This was about a week after an important constitutional amendment that was supposed to bring Quebec into Canada's constitutional family had been rejected by several provinces in Canada (it needed unanimous consent). The parade turned into both a protest against this as well as a show of nationalism. Well, talk about cutting it with a knife. The nationalism and hatred against Canada was so palpable that it was something you could actually feel. Hundreds of thousands marched in Montreal...and it was the first time in my life that I experienced first-hand the power of that horrible thing called nationalism or jingoism or whatever it is: collective consciousness for what, to me, was an evil purpose. And it just bowled me over. I know it's not proper or acceptable to make the inevitable Nazi comparison but I will anyway: I had an inkling of what Nuremberg was like when all those Nazis marched (and we saw it in Reifenshtall's Triumph of the Will). Interesting experience. Thanks for sharing it. I cannot say that I have had similar moments in France, but I have seen the Le Pen/Sarkozy mentality that might bring it to the surface, at least in some people. It's not secession they have in mind but the end of immigration. I guess that's a kind of secession, from the world as a whole and the human race. Fortunately, such people are in the minority here, as they seem to be in the US. A country closes its doors to new blood at its own peril. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thin soup and engaging in non-stop vandalism, on FFL?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a method, wikipedia and non-stop vandalism. Sort of like series of posts on FFL un-related to anything FFL? Though Rick has set the forum here up for anything in the homepage description Pretty much any topic is fair game. Pretty much. Whatever you think, it's more than that It has become thin soup. FI, what wass that recent Lincoln post connection to FFL? Did i miss something in that post? Did the author take a moment anywhere in the post to make a connection to something FFL? I thought it was pretty obvious Doug. But I will spell it out for you. I should have added the following preamble: Many TMers, most Ru residents of FF -- past and present - are or have been, at times, effected by myths and the lack of critical thinking. That is, many have at times, taken a story as true, believed it deeply, acted on it, let their lives be strongly guided by it. All because some authority figure or institution said This is how it is. The results of this blind faith in myths has been deleterious to some, catostrophic for others. FFL has been a haven for many to rethink critical assumptions, core beliefs and myths that have long and deeply guided thier lives. It has been a place to heal, to renew ones spirit and native capacity to think for themselves. In that regards, FFL is all about examining such shadows deep in our souls. And such shadows are not restricted to unexamined myths propigated by the TMO. If one simply examines TMO mths, but is lead by and overshadowed by unchallenged traditional, status quo, beleifs in other areas of their lives, what ahs been gained? The person is still susceptible to being sucked up into beliefs based on authority figures and institutions, and not critical, rational thinking, their own experiences, and reasonable, if not rigorous evidence. Regualar critical thinking, and examination of all assumptions, is a innoculation, a step towards immunity, against becoming (a new) a True Beleiver -- in spiritual and all other matters in life. Thus, examining myths that our country and schools taught us -- even universities -- about leaders whom have been raised to mythical and iconic stature, is healthy. And it reflects the core of the FFL ethos to think for oneself. As an example of some such recent critical thinking I did this afternoon, I share the following findings and observations about the myths of Lincoln as great leader. A great leader should be judged by their results and when applicable, roads not taken. Lincoln is esteemed highly -- yet he plunged the nation into a war of aggression casuing the highest casualties for the nation ever-- and extensively suspended civil liberties in conducting the war. The war was not against invaders that threatened to conquor the country. It was a war of aggression against an idea. (Not slavery -- the war was not begun to free slaves as Lincoln readily admits. )This most bloody war could have been avoided, peacefully. Thus, in the FFL spirit of challenging deep unexamined assumptions, the iconic and mythical stature of Lincoln in our institutions, hearts and minds deserves challenging and critical analysis. ... the Lincoln post To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blue states buzz over secession
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Fortunately, such people are in the minority here, as they seem to be in the US. A country closes its doors to new blood at its own peril. Of course the US is highly pro immigaration and has been through most of its history. This is distinct form some European countries that are considering much tighter restrictions in legal immigation -- that is its quotas adn requirements. The US's primary issue is on undocumented aka illigal' immigration -- and its implictions for national security, not on immigration itself. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting phenomena on thread : Flying vs. Hopping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Are and Spraig playing stump the teacher? That is so cute. Whatever distinction you are making has no relevance to my life or my point. It is a desperate attempt to make it seem like I somehow never understood TM like you guys do. If that makes you happy to believe that, I couldn't care less. Says Curtis, launching an ad hominem attack (shooting the messenger) instead of admitting that he got it wrong. Such integrity! Compare and contrast the state of consciousness, compassion, courage, and just plain humanity of this statement and its defender of the TM faith author to those TMers sitting in a hotel in a war zone in Israel, putting their beliefs -- and yes, integrity -- on the line. Interesting comparison, eh? Notice Barry does not compare *Curtis's* state of consciousness, compassion, courage, and just plain humanity--not to mention his willingness to put his own beliefs and integrity on the line-- to the Israeli TMers. IOKIFAAT. And of course there's no consideration of the context. Curtis questioned the value of the experience of transcending, suggesting that it's been vastly overrated, when, as a former TM teacher, he ought to know--as Lawson pointed out--that no experience during TM is of any greater value than any other, including random thoughts. That *does* suggest that Curtis was not meditating properly, if he thought there was supposed to be great value in the experience of transcending. This error, uncorrected, might well have served to discourage folks who would otherwise have been in a position at some point to demonstrate their courage and humanity by joining a group practicing the TM-Sidhis in a war zone. Have you ever considered taking the Which Harry Potter Character Are You? quiz at: http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=hpcharacter I'm bettin' on Hermione. You're trying to berate someone and make them publicly confess the error of their ways because they didn't speak the exact words that were in the textbook. That just makes you a grumpy schoolmarm, not smart. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blue states buzz over secession
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Fortunately, such people are in the minority here, as they seem to be in the US. A country closes its doors to new blood at its own peril. Of course the US is highly pro immigaration and has been through most of its history. This is distinct form some European countries that are considering much tighter restrictions in legal immigation -- that is its quotas adn requirements. The US's primary issue is on undocumented aka illigal' immigration -- and its implictions for national security, not on immigration itself. You haven't talked to many people trying to immigrate to the United States in the last few years, have you? They've got jobs waiting for them there, a US company that's providing lawyers to get them accepted so they can go to work, and they get rejected. And these stories are being told by people who have lived with the *French* bureaucracy, which is the worst on any known planet in the universe. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thin soup and engaging in non-stop vandalism, on FFL?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Were the global warming ones about peer review research or something, sort of like the TMO's use of peer review or were they about the weather in FF or in some other places where the sunshines on things FFL related? Have true FF's become so provincial that things that effect the rest of the globe are of no interest? Actually, GCC (Global Climate Change) effects could potential affect FF in a number of ways; crop suitability, changes in growing regions, fuel restrctions, hotter summers, colder winters, taxation, etc. But to make it more direct. FF is the home of an Eco-Village. I came across and read a lot othis weekend on the interational Eco-Village movement. Read through the various links, its fascinating. http://gen.ecovillage.org/ One of the key drivers of the Eco-Village movement is GCC. I am inspired that FF is at the hub of a major trend / research that could greatly affect GCC. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blue states buzz over secession
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Fortunately, such people are in the minority here, as they seem to be in the US. A country closes its doors to new blood at its own peril. Of course the US is highly pro immigaration and has been through most of its history. This is distinct form some European countries that are considering much tighter restrictions in legal immigation -- that is its quotas adn requirements. The US's primary issue is on undocumented aka illigal' immigration -- and its implictions for national security, not on immigration itself. You haven't talked to many people trying to immigrate to the United States in the last few years, have you? They've got jobs waiting for them there, a US company that's providing lawyers to get them accepted so they can go to work, and they get rejected. And these stories are being told by people who have lived with the *French* bureaucracy, which is the worst on any known planet in the universe. Well, I didn't say US legal immigration policy was optimal. I am for less restrictive immigration globally. But US immigration I believe outstirps most coutries. And my primary point remains: The US's immigration focus is on stemming undocumented immigration. Other countries appear more focussed on retrictions of legal immigration. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting phenomena on thread : Flying vs. Hopping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you ever considered taking the Which Harry Potter Character Are You? quiz at: http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=hpcharacter I'm bettin' on Hermione. You're trying to berate someone and make them publicly confess the error of their ways because they didn't speak the exact words that were in the textbook. That just makes you a grumpy schoolmarm, not smart. or Gilmore Girls Paris or Emily? (yes, i must be totally gay -- I like the show -- it actually has some Austenish fast paced witty and subtle dialogue -- 30% -- which doesn't quite overshdow the 40% that is insipid cuteness. But still. Just use fast forward. ) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Eternal Beauty
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/possumblog/People/catherine_deneuve.jpg If she still looked like that (I reckon that this photo was taken around the time of 'Repulsion,' her absolute prime), I'd reimburse you the grand. Catherine's beauty and grace are eternal. Like the Ved. Though Maria is even more eternal. http://82.197.197.197/pictures/2006/SI-Swimsuit/500603388445859.jpg (Relevance Key for Doug: eternal == Ved == FF) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Blue states buzz over secession
The segment of the country that pays for the federal government is now being governed by the people who don't pay for the federal government. As a Californian and former Washingtonian I've been for this for a long time. We'll keep the military bases of course to protect us against any of the hot headed red staters. And even Ahnuld complains about not getting enough of our tax dollars back to the state. new.morning wrote: http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20041109-122753-5113r.htm To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force
It is a war crime under international law for any government to use indiscriminate and disproportionate force in its campaign. This is a noted war crime, and many analysts are saying that Isreal's usage is of this type (and the US in Iraq also). (and just because others break the law does not give the right to you to break the law toothis is ignorance, and a return to the dark ages. Lynch mobs are soon accepted after that) OffWorld To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel Needs Yogic Fliers to Beat Hizbullah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: The only difference is that Hezbollah is knowingly aiming for civilians while Israel is after Hezbollah terrorists. *** http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/24/world/middleeast/24tyre.html There is no clean war and i didn't suggest that kids on both side haven't got hurt, my point is that while Israel is trying to do it's best that no civilians will get hurt Hezbollah are doing it's best to hit civilians. Hezzbolah and many Palestinians will hide behind children or shoot from public places knowing that Israelis won't shoot back. It is a war crime under international law for any government to use indiscriminate and disproportionate force in its campaign. This is a noted war crime, and many analysts are saying that Isreal's usage is of this type (and the US in Iraq also) Palestinians educate for terrorism: http://tinyurl.com/zamzh Shall I start posting pictures of proud US or Israeli airforce officers who bombed whole innocent families in Iraq, and nobody cares about it. It is glorified slaughter of innocents. OffWorld Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting phenomena on thread : Flying vs. Hopping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: or Gilmore Girls Paris or Emily? (yes, i must be totally gay -- I like the show -- it actually has some Austenish fast paced witty and subtle dialogue -- 30% -- which doesn't quite overshdow the 40% that is insipid cuteness. But still. Just use fast forward. ) I haven't seen it. I don't think it's been aired in France yet. And I didn't mean to malgn Hermione earlier. She starts out kinda pissy, but she grows out of it. That's one of the neat things about the Harry Potter books -- JKRowling lets her children grow. I loved the Harry Potter books. I think they're smokin'. I'd heard about this quiz but never taken it myself until today. It says that I'm Hagrid. I can live with that. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blue states buzz over secession
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The segment of the country that pays for the federal government is now being governed by the people who don't pay for the federal government. As a Californian and former Washingtonian I've been for this for a long time. We'll keep the military bases of course to protect us against any of the hot headed red staters. And even Ahnuld complains about not getting enough of our tax dollars back to the state. If you get New Mexico to join you, I'd enjoy my visits back to Santa Fe a lot more. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting phenomena on thread : Flying vs. Hopping
Judy, no one cares what I think of TM except the kind person who asked me about my experiences. I was expressing my personal opinion. The verb transcending, combines all the parts of the TM process that Spraig was so quick to add, including the mechanics of stress release theory. If I had used the phrase the state of transcendence, your point would have more merit. But in a group of experienced meditators, my use was completely valid. Everyone knew what I was talking about including you and Spraig. Sometimes the verb transcending is used to describe the state of transcendent. But in my discussion of my own experiences, I am not using it that way. I was discussing my choice to drop the whole practice of TM with people already familiar with the practice. The original quotes: As far as transcending goes, I think that experience is also very overrated as a valuable experience. Get out your bubble diagrams here and follow along Judy and Spraig. And the next time I use the term: How could so many people drop the practice if transcending was all that? Judy and Spraig, want to take my use out of context, to make it look like I didn't memorize and get tested on the elementary point they are bringing up. So if you want to assert the position that the term transcending is never used as a description of the whole meditation process, please go ahead. I would enjoy that. Now here is my explanation to Spraig: Me: 'OK. I thought you were joking. Transcending is the cornorstone of MMY's program. It is the single most important part of his teaching. It is considered going to the home of all knowldedge and all the laws of nature. It is going to the highest first. It is watering the root so you can enjoy the fruit. It is pulling back the bow so you can let the arrow of activity fly. It is the rest before activity. It is capturing the fort so you can enjoy all the silver and gold mines. Come on Spraig help me out here. You are a sharp guy. What are you talking about? MMY considers transcending Valuable.' Notice my use of the phrases, going to the home of all Knowledge, a clear reference to the whole process. Going to the highest first, Watering the root, pulling back the bow, capturing the fort. All these examples that make it clear what I was talking about, the whole process of TM. Did you guys sincerely miss all that? Or are you trying to bust my balls because you can't accept that someone can value this experience so differently? And the full first post to avoid the Judy trick of claiming selective quotes: I enjoyed the experience of flying for the ten years I did it, and TM for 15 years. Once I shifted my view of its value, I never desired the experience again. I think the experience's value is not as self-evident as some claim. Maybe the belief system has to support it. Otherwise it just seems odd, and not an experience I would seek out these days. As far as it benefit, that I no longer buy. I think it is sort of a mini epileptic fit. Not too dangerous probably, but not the greatest experience ever. I don't see people who have kept it up as special in any way I can detect. By now it really should have produced more of the claimed benefits in people practicing so long. In the old days we would joke that without TM a person might be even worse! That claim is getting hollower and hollower each decade. As far as transcending goes, I think that experience is also very overrated as a valuable experience. Relaxation seems necessary in my life in much smaller doses now that I don't do a program. The biggest wellbeing booster for me is exercise. That experience seems to give me all the mental clarity I was seeking with TM with the added benefit of giving me much more energy. All that eyes closed time of the program seems to sap people's energy despite the claims. I don't hang out with anyone who needs a nap in the afternoon. (anyone with kids excluded!) It is just something that people get used to I think. It took me a few days to get over the need for program, then I just never considered the need for more rest after sleeping, or in the afternoon. There are too many activities that give me joy and help me grow. I have become the busy businessman of the checking notes and wouldn't have it any other way! I always knew that most people drop TM after practicing it. At the DC center we got a big wake-up call when we tried to contact the 10,000 people who had been initiated at the center. I don't remember the numbers but it shocked us at the time. How could so many people drop the practice if transcending was all that? Posting on this group has made me wonder how many people keep up with the sidhi program. Even that level of interaction doesn't seem to be self-evidently positive enough to keep people doing it. So we are all left with our personal choices. People on this group are pretty entertaining. Most of the people I seem to get along with best have moved on from TM. The TM link is just a common
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting phenomena on thread : Flying vs. Hopping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Are and Spraig playing stump the teacher? That is so cute. Whatever distinction you are making has no relevance to my life or my point. It is a desperate attempt to make it seem like I somehow never understood TM like you guys do. If that makes you happy to believe that, I couldn't care less. Says Curtis, launching an ad hominem attack (shooting the messenger) instead of admitting that he got it wrong. Such integrity! Compare and contrast the state of consciousness, compassion, courage, and just plain humanity of this statement and its defender of the TM faith author to those TMers sitting in a hotel in a war zone in Israel, putting their beliefs -- and yes, integrity -- on the line. Interesting comparison, eh? Notice Barry does not compare *Curtis's* state of consciousness, compassion, courage, and just plain humanity--not to mention his willingness to put his own beliefs and integrity on the line-- to the Israeli TMers. IOKIFAAT. And of course there's no consideration of the context. Curtis questioned the value of the experience of transcending, suggesting that it's been vastly overrated, when, as a former TM teacher, he ought to know--as Lawson pointed out--that no experience during TM is of any greater value than any other, including random thoughts. That *does* suggest that Curtis was not meditating properly, if he thought there was supposed to be great value in the experience of transcending. This error, uncorrected, might well have served to discourage folks who would otherwise have been in a position at some point to demonstrate their courage and humanity by joining a group practicing the TM-Sidhis in a war zone. Have you ever considered taking the Which Harry Potter Character Are You? quiz at: http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=hpcharacter I'm bettin' on Hermione. You're trying to berate someone and make them publicly confess the error of their ways because they didn't speak the exact words that were in the textbook. Uh, no, you appear to be missing the point (or doing your damndest to lead others to miss it). Not using the exact words that were in the textbook, in this case, may well represent a significant conceptual difference that would negatively affect one's TM practice. I suggested to Curtis earlier that he may have meant to write process of transcending versus experience of transcending, but he ignored the suggestion. Then he claimed the distinction wasn't relevant, which seems to indicate pretty clearly that he *doesn't* understand that valuing the *experience* of transcending in TM is contrary to correct practice. Words *do* make a difference, especially in the context of TM practice. Of course, it may well be that he *does* recognize the difference but simply can't bring himself to admit that he inadvertently used a word that represents an incorrect approach. Why that would be such a problem for him is unclear, but it certainly does not speak well for his integrity. That just makes you a grumpy schoolmarm, not smart. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting phenomena on thread : Flying vs. Hopping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: or Gilmore Girls Paris or Emily? (yes, i must be totally gay -- I like the show -- it actually has some Austenish fast paced witty and subtle dialogue -- 30% -- which doesn't quite overshdow the 40% that is insipid cuteness. But still. Just use fast forward. ) I haven't seen it. I don't think it's been aired in France yet. And I didn't mean to malgn Hermione earlier. She starts out kinda pissy, but she grows out of it. That's one of the neat things about the Harry Potter books -- JKRowling lets her children grow. I loved the Harry Potter books. I think they're smokin'. I'd heard about this quiz but never taken it myself until today. It says that I'm Hagrid. I can live with that. Its been on for 5-6 seasons. Though I am a recent convert. Its available via NetFlix. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a war crime under international law for any government to use indiscriminate and disproportionate force in its campaign. This is a noted war crime, and many analysts are saying that Isreal's usage is of this type (and the US in Iraq also). (and just because others break the law does not give the right to you to break the law toothis is ignorance, and a return to the dark ages. Lynch mobs are soon accepted after that) OffWorld Then, per that logic, using teams of yogic flyers, and vedic peace pundits, must be a war crime, since using the totality of and the home of all the laws of nature, as well as intense cohernece, is clearly disproportionate force. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting phenomena on thread : Flying vs. Hopping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Are and Spraig playing stump the teacher? That is so cute. Whatever distinction you are making has no relevance to my life or my point. It is a desperate attempt to make it seem like I somehow never understood TM like you guys do. If that makes you happy to believe that, I couldn't care less. Says Curtis, launching an ad hominem attack (shooting the messenger) instead of admitting that he got it wrong. Such integrity! Compare and contrast the state of consciousness, compassion, courage, and just plain humanity of this statement and its defender of the TM faith author to those TMers sitting in a hotel in a war zone in Israel, putting their beliefs -- and yes, integrity -- on the line. Interesting comparison, eh?. Says Turqoise as he slurps another glass of the vino while oggling the young women as they walk by. OffWorld Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inversion Tables
You're right. Didn't read your post carefully. The thing is, on the inversion table I have, there is a place for the ankles, a kind of ankle brace with foam. There isn't enough room for boots since this ankle brace is just wide enough for ankles. Gravity boots are big and bulky. The inversion table I purchased at Sams is very comfortable, no problems with the ankles. One word of caution. Don't hang too long even though it feels great. I built up to half an hour. If you feel head pressure, bring the table up. Mark --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know what gravity boots are like. I bought a pair a long time ago. I know it was before 1983, because we used them in my CCP pod in 1982-1983. However, I was recommending heshiepothead consider using the boots *with the table*, not by themselves. In the previous email, I said: heshiepothead, full inversion can be hard on the ankles. The best solution for that is supposed to be wearing the gravity boots during table inversion. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting phenomena on thread : Flying vs. Hopping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Are and Spraig playing stump the teacher? That is so cute. Whatever distinction you are making has no relevance to my life or my point. It is a desperate attempt to make it seem like I somehow never understood TM like you guys do. If that makes you happy to believe that, I couldn't care less. Says Curtis, launching an ad hominem attack (shooting the messenger) instead of admitting that he got it wrong. Such integrity! Compare and contrast the state of consciousness, compassion, courage, and just plain humanity of this statement and its defender of the TM faith author to those TMers sitting in a hotel in a war zone in Israel, putting their beliefs -- and yes, integrity -- on the line. Interesting comparison, eh? Notice Barry does not compare *Curtis's* state of consciousness, compassion, courage, and just plain humanity--not to mention his willingness to put his own beliefs and integrity on the line-- to the Israeli TMers. IOKIFAAT. And of course there's no consideration of the context. Curtis questioned the value of the experience of transcending, suggesting that it's been vastly overrated, when, as a former TM teacher, he ought to know--as Lawson pointed out--that no experience during TM is of any greater value than any other, including random thoughts. That *does* suggest that Curtis was not meditating properly, if he thought there was supposed to be great value in the experience of transcending. This error, uncorrected, might well have served to discourage folks who would otherwise have been in a position at some point to demonstrate their courage and humanity by joining a group practicing the TM-Sidhis in a war zone. Have you ever considered taking the Which Harry Potter Character Are You? quiz at: http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=hpcharacter I'm bettin' on Hermione. You're trying to berate someone and make them publicly confess the error of their ways because they didn't speak the exact words that were in the textbook. Uh, no, you appear to be missing the point (or doing your damndest to lead others to miss it). Not using the exact words that were in the textbook, in this case, may well represent a significant conceptual difference that would negatively affect one's TM practice. I suggested to Curtis earlier that he may have meant to write process of transcending versus experience of transcending, but he ignored the suggestion. Then he claimed the distinction wasn't relevant, which seems to indicate pretty clearly that he *doesn't* understand that valuing the *experience* of transcending in TM is contrary to correct practice. Words *do* make a difference, especially in the context of TM practice. Of course, it may well be that he *does* recognize the difference but simply can't bring himself to admit that he inadvertently used a word that represents an incorrect approach. Why that would be such a problem for him is unclear, but it certainly does not speak well for his integrity. It *was* Hermione, wasn't it? :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Blue states buzz over secession
In a message dated 7/24/06 1:37:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "The segment of the country that pays for the federal government is now being governed by the people who don't pay for the federal government."As a Californian and former Washingtonian I've been for this for a long time. We'll keep the military bases of course to protect us against any of the hot headed red staters. And even Ahnuld complains about not getting enough of our tax dollars back to the state. Everybody keeps what is in their state, except people. Those that don't want to live in the state they are in are free to go to one that they would feel more comfortable in. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
