[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 7, 2005, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote: You already know the answer my dear--so why are you asking? Well, Vaj, as I said, I forget. Based on the things you say about TM, it appears you never have. Is that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature support . (Was: Bomb blasts rock...

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/7/05 9:44:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which is really too bad, because whatever *else* he is and has done, Blair's the point man at this summit for global warming and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature support . (Was: Bomb blasts rock London, UK!!!!!

2005-07-08 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://mum.edu/goodnews/images/hagelin+dodril.jpg Man, they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature support . (Was: Bomb blasts rock London, UK!!!!!

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-08 Thread Llundrub
person again and again one begins to wonder why one answered in the first place. Yes I was initiated into TM© Judy way back in 1974...I was 15 at the time...TTC not until the early 80's...I'm sorry to hear that. If you did in fact everlearn and practice TM, you're the poster boy forthe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Actually, until you have taken Dzogchen teachings you really can't speak on effortlessness, surrender, or simplicity. Actually, as should be obvious, one *can* speak about such things, and even sound somewhat

[FairfieldLife] The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/7/05 9:44:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which is really too bad, because whatever *else* he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature support . (Was: Bomb blasts rock London, UK!!!!!

2005-07-08 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature support . (Was: Bomb blasts rock London, UK!!!!!

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://mum.edu/goodnews/images/hagelin+dodril.jpg At least John is passable in his almost traditional get-up. But poor Raja Dean looks like a leader of a ufo cult. Beam me up Scotty! A kinky UFO cult. I showed

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Sutphen wrote: There is so much contradictory evidence that refutes this magic 1%, square root, Maharishi effect. I'm embarrassed to admit that I don't recall any discussions that presented refuting evidence. I know plenty of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-08 Thread Vaj
On Jul 8, 2005, at 12:51 AM, Jeff Fischer wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Scientologists take note An equal opportunity insult... Yeah, I feel honored to be included

Re: [FairfieldLife] The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread Llundrub
Did the London terrorists report directly to GeorgeW. Bush? Probably not. But they're certainly onthe same "side" as he is.Unc--At any rate, they are both gross materialists. Bush and Co. because they support the largest and crudest materialitic means and measures, and the terrorists

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-08 Thread Vaj
On Jul 8, 2005, at 2:10 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Let it go, Vaj. World troubles bring out the stalker in some people. Yeah, you're right... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did the London terrorists report directly to George W. Bush? Probably not. But they're certainly on the same side as he is. Unc --At any rate, they are both gross materialists. Bush and Co. because they

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature support . (Was: Bomb blasts rock London, UK!!!!!

2005-07-08 Thread Llundrub
I think most of you guys would do well to get over your incredulity and imagine how Christians have acted ever since Jesus split. They set up their own government and nation state which is untouchable. - Original Message - From: Peter Sutphen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature support . (Was: Bomb blasts rock London, UK!!!!!

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think most of you guys would do well to get over your incredulity and imagine how Christians have acted ever since Jesus split. They set up their own government and nation state which is untouchable. And their guys wear

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread Llundrub
London and The Duh Factor... Blowing up innocent people is wrong. No exceptions.--I agree. But that said, if there were both karma and innocence then how would people get blown up? I actually do have an answer to this. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: London and The Duh Factor... Blowing up innocent people is wrong. No exceptions. --I agree. But that said, if there were both karma and innocence then how would people get blown up? I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread Llundrub
- Original Message - From: TurquoiseB To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 7:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: London and The Duh

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread Patrick Gillam
Thanks, Peter. My questions about the Maharishi effect tie to a larger issue we kick around a lot in this forum, namely, what's the connection between growth of consciousness and relative life? Most of us are keen on growth of consciousness -- we aspire to awakening and believe it's not a

[FairfieldLife] Brits had advance warning of attacks

2005-07-08 Thread Vaj
British police told the Israeli Embassy in London minutes before Thursday's explosions that they had received warnings of possible terror attacks in the city, a senior Israeli official said. Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had planned to attend an economic conference in a hotel over

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back to Maharishi and his effects: I'm not ready to write off all that he taught and predicted. My beef with him has more to do with his administration than his knowledge. He cultivated a True Believer culture

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brits had advance warning of attacks

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: British police told the Israeli Embassy in London minutes before Thursday's explosions that they had received warnings of possible terror attacks in the city, a senior Israeli official said. Israeli Finance Minister

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature support . (Was: Bomb blasts rock London, UK!!!!!

2005-07-08 Thread lurkernomore20002000
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: The London terrorists and the old rich men who make up Bush Co. are NOT enemies. They are PARTNERS. They NEED each other I'd like to tie this thought ˆ to something you said a few

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip IMO, the real tragedy of this tragedy is that whoever did it *could* effectively have been working for Bush Co. They've managed (so far) to derail a series of talks that were supposed to be about the *real*

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 7, 2005, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote: You already know the answer my dear--so why are you asking? Well, Vaj, as I said, I forget.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did the London terrorists report directly to George W. Bush? Probably not. But they're certainly on the same side as he is. Unc

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you had a belief system (such as Tantra) in which nothing was inherently either good or evil, would you need an enemy to reinforce

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread Llundrub
Something needs to be done about it. Not to bolster some particular religion or *cause* but to save the freakin' planet. ---Actually nothing needs to be done about anything. People merely need to leave thing alone as much as they can. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if this planet and its lifeforms turn out to be the galactic equivalent of the Smallpox virus, and the only way to save the trillions of trillions of other sentient beings in the universe is to kill off the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People merely need to leave thing alone as much as they can. My Momma used to tell me to leave the thing alone a lot when I was 13. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Message from an Ascended Master

2005-07-08 Thread ascended masters
“I am Babaji, known as the yogi Christ. What does it mean to be ascended? I ask this question to stir a memory deep within you of when you knew your true identity. The Ascended Beings, whose numbers are great, are those beings who have gone before you into the darkness and illusion of

[FairfieldLife] Itzhak Bentov biography

2005-07-08 Thread Vaj
Itzhak Bentov's daughter, Sharona Muir, has just published a book on the life of her father: The Book of Telling. http://www.thebookoftelling.com/ After her father died, Sharona Muir learned by chance that he had invented Israel's first rocket. Muir's parents divorced when she was very

Re: [FairfieldLife] Itzhak Bentov biography

2005-07-08 Thread Vaj
http://www.bgsu.edu/offices/pr/monitor/muir_book.html Muir book traces hidden past of a father and a country x-tad-smallerIt was a chance encounter with a fellow graduate student at Stanford University that gave Dr. Sharona Muir the first glimpse into her father’s hidden life and

[FairfieldLife] Playing the game (was Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy)

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if this planet and its lifeforms turn out to be the galactic equivalent of the Smallpox virus, and the only way to save the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brits had advance warning of attacks

2005-07-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Just before the blasts, Scotland Yard called the security officer at the Israeli Embassy to say they had received warnings of possible

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
Patrick, I think we're all fairly complex individuals and oversimplifications of cause/effect just don't work. Generalisations about behaviour arising out of having sat and meditated just ignore the complexity of the individual. Transcending the everyday thought patterns and having a touchdown

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) Measures to address global warming would involve reducing our dependence on fossil fuels, which would in turn reduce our increasingly disastrous involvement in the Middle East; and measures to address poverty

Re: [FairfieldLife] Message from an Ascended Master

2005-07-08 Thread Llundrub
If I could strangle myself with my own hands it would be preferable to reading any more of this. - Original Message - From: ascended masters To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 10:06 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Message from an Ascended Master “I am

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People merely need to leave thing alone as much as they can. My Momma used to tell me to leave the thing alone a lot when I was 13. And

[FairfieldLife] Playing the game (was Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy)

2005-07-08 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who is this I of whom you speak? :-) Have to ask Dr. Pete. me thinks he'll say *I*m delusional. From that perspective, you're right about not taking it all too seriously. Seriousness is not a virtue. - G.K.

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So the assumption that by transcending one becomes incapable of error of judgement is non-science and we ought to rely on better methods to determine whether we are right or not. Else we become

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what are the true Maharishi effects? Increased global awareness on Indian Culture (including increased interest in vegetarianism). More awareness about possibility of finding increased happiness through

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message from an Ascended Master

2005-07-08 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I could strangle myself with my own hands it would be preferable to reading any more of this. - Original Message - From: ascended masters To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread Patrick Gillam
Premanand Paul Mason wrote: So the assumption that by transcending one becomes incapable of error of judgement is non-science Right. Assumption *is* non-science. But there's plenty of science available on which to base understandings. I'm thinking of the five or six studies the Nidiches

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) Measures to address global warming would involve reducing our dependence on fossil fuels, which would in turn reduce our increasingly

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message from an Ascended Master

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I could strangle myself with my own hands it would be preferable to reading any more of this. I actually just skimmed it and pressed Next, but given this comment, had to go back and read the whole thing, just to

[FairfieldLife] Playing the game (was Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy)

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriousness is not a virtue. - G.K. Chesterton Reminds me of the scene in The Man Who Would be King: O'Toole and Connery are in the

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Premanand Paul Mason wrote: So the assumption that by transcending one becomes incapable of error of judgement is non-science Right. Assumption *is* non-science. But there's plenty of science available

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I'm thinking of the five or six studies the Nidiches published in peer-reviewed journals (I believe they were) demonstrating that

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread Patrick Gillam
authfriend wrote: MMY ... predicts as a result of meditation good behavior and the inability to commit error *by human standards*, whereas his actual metaphysical teaching is that one becomes incapable of error *by Nature's standards*, which not only could be quite different, but which

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread Patrick Gillam
TurquoiseB wrote: Societal standards for morality might not neces- sarily have anything to do with genuine ethics. So true. But then again, societal standards for morality *may* have something to do with genuine ethics. So let's do two things: study moral behavior among spiritual seekers,

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least one of Sandy Nidich's studies was on the relationship between TM and Kohlberg's stages of moral reasoning, in which conforming to societal standards of morality is one of the conventional or lower stages.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread anonymousff
Statement of group claiming responsibility 'The heroic mujahedeen have carried out a blessed raid in London' - A statement appeared today on the jihadist website Al-Qal'ah (Fortress), purportedly posted by the group claiming

[FairfieldLife] 'We will use your democracy to destroy your democracy'

2005-07-08 Thread anonymousff
[ now I understand why MMY don't like democracy :) ] London a Longtime Haven for Radical Muslim Figures By Patrick Goodenough (CNSNews.com) - Terrorism experts have long warned that Islamists espousing violence enjoy a haven in London, an assertion that has come into sharp focus again with

[FairfieldLife] MMY Used UK Natal Chart to Foresee Events?

2005-07-08 Thread John
To all members: It appears that MMY used the UK natal chart to foresee the difficult period for the nation. Using the natal chart (based on January 1, 1801 as the birth date), the UK is undergoing sade sati (meaning seven and a half years), a period typically dreaded in vedic astrology.

[FairfieldLife] Playing the game (was Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy)

2005-07-08 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if this planet and its lifeforms turn out to be the

Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY Used UK Natal Chart to Foresee Events?

2005-07-08 Thread Vaj
On Jul 8, 2005, at 3:09 PM, John wrote: Given the chaos of the recent incident in London, MMY's decision to leave the UK is prophetic and validates his reputation as a modern day Seer. Your conclusion doesn't follow from what you stated previously. The obvious conclusion would be 'M. makes

Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY Used UK Natal Chart to Foresee Events?

2005-07-08 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To all members: It appears that MMY used the UK natal chart to foresee the difficult period for the nation. This is pure conjecture on your part. You don't know this, do you? Using the natal chart (based on January 1, 1801 as the birth date), the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Message from an Ascended Master

2005-07-08 Thread Peter Sutphen
Thank you. I may now continue with my day... --- ascended masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: “I am Babaji, known as the yogi Christ. What does it mean to be ascended? I ask this question to stir a memory deep within you of when you knew your true identity. The Ascended Beings, whose

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature support . (Was: Bomb blasts rock London, UK!!!!!

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: person again and again one begins to wonder why one answered in the first place. Yes I was initiated into TM© Judy way back in 1974...I was 15 at the time...TTC not until the early 80's... I'm sorry to hear

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Sutphen wrote: There is so much contradictory evidence that refutes this magic 1%, square root, Maharishi effect. I'm embarrassed to admit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 8, 2005, at 12:51 AM, Jeff Fischer wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Scientologists take

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inherit in all ME studies is the idea that the larger the sample, the more likely the effect will show. Fairfield (not to mention MUM itself) is small enough that the ME effect might easily be confounded by variables

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back to Maharishi and his effects: I'm not ready to write off all that he taught and predicted. My beef with him has more to do with

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you had a belief system (such as Tantra) in which nothing was inherently either good or evil, would you need an enemy to reinforce

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back to Maharishi and his effects: I'm not ready to write

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So the assumption that by transcending one becomes incapable of error of judgement is non-science and we ought to rely on

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Premanand Paul Mason wrote: So the assumption that by transcending one becomes incapable of error of judgement is non-science Right. Assumption *is* non-science. But there's plenty of science available

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message from an Ascended Master

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I could strangle myself with my own hands it would be preferable to reading any more of this. I actually just skimmed it and pressed

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Premanand Paul Mason wrote: So the assumption that by transcending one becomes incapable of error of judgement is non-science

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Used UK Natal Chart to Foresee Events?

2005-07-08 Thread chandashari
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To all members: It appears that MMY used the UK natal chart to foresee the difficult period for the nation. Using the natal chart (based on January 1, 1801 as the birth date), the UK is undergoing sade sati (meaning

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Statement of group claiming responsibility 'The heroic mujahedeen have carried out a blessed raid in London' Is this supposed to be an Al Qaeda website? Seems to me that there's no more justification for attacking

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Statement of group claiming responsibility 'The heroic mujahedeen have carried out a blessed raid in London' Is this supposed to be an Al Qaeda website? Seems to me that there's no more justification for attacking

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Used UK Natal Chart to Foresee Events?

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To all members: It appears that MMY used the UK natal chart to foresee the difficult period for the nation. Using the natal chart (based on January 1, 1801 as the birth date), the UK is undergoing sade sati (meaning

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Used UK Natal Chart to Foresee Events?

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, chandashari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] If you saw my recent posting I pointed out that Professor Choudhry in India, based on the current transits of the planets made the following announcement - and this several days prior to the attacks. 7th

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Not a rationalization. Didn't you know, Lawson? If it supports TM, or if it doesn't support criticism of TM, it's a rationalization by definition. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-08 Thread Vaj
On Jul 8, 2005, at 4:45 PM, sparaig wrote: In other words, the TM technique, checking procedures, AND the experimental techniques to study the TM technique are quite consistent with the theory that MMY uses to explain TM, so even though you object to everything about TM, there's no

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Used UK Natal Chart to Foresee Events? (for Peter and all)

2005-07-08 Thread John
Peter and all My response is as follows: 1. This is pure conjecture on your part. You don't know this, do you? An educated guess, yes. 2. Well, what's been going on the previous 4 1/2 years? As you can see in the UK's participation in the Iraq War, the period in question has not been very

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Used UK Natal Chart to Foresee Events? (for Peter and all)

2005-07-08 Thread Vaj
On Jul 8, 2005, at 5:41 PM, John wrote: I believe MMY uses vedic astrology to make his decisions within the TM organization. He may consult with other jyotishis to confirm his own conclusions. But that's understandable as other leaders confer with their advisers before making major

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread Patrick Gillam
sparaig wrote: I've made it a hobby for 30 years to read and analyze the TM research (as best I can with my limited math background --who the hell is Jenkins, and what is he doing in a box?). The physiological stuff has gotten quite sophisticated. The Ayurvedic research is getting

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 8, 2005, at 4:45 PM, sparaig wrote: In other words, the TM technique, checking procedures, AND the experimental techniques to study the TM technique are quite consistent with the theory that MMY uses to explain

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Used UK Natal Chart to Foresee Events? (for Chandashari et all)

2005-07-08 Thread John
Chandashari, If Professor Choudry had seen the UK chart, he would have made a more definitive statement about the potential events in the UK. There are certain features in the UK chart that are indicative of troubles ahead. These features include the transit of Saturn to the natal Moon,

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Used UK Natal Chart to Foresee Events? (for Peter and all)

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter and all My response is as follows: 1. This is pure conjecture on your part. You don't know this, do you? An educated guess, yes. 2. Well, what's been going on the previous 4 1/2 years? As you can see in

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Used UK Natal Chart to Foresee Events?

2005-07-08 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To all members: It appears that MMY used the UK natal chart to foresee the difficult period for the nation. Using the natal chart (based on January 1, 1801 as the birth date), the UK is undergoing sade sati (meaning

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sparaig wrote: I've made it a hobby for 30 years to read and analyze the TM research (as best I can with my limited math background --who the hell is Jenkins, and what is he doing in a box?). The

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Used UK Natal Chart to Foresee Events? (for Sparaig and all)

2005-07-08 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter and all My response is as follows: 1. This is pure conjecture on your part. You don't know this, do you? An educated guess, yes.

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Sandy's been in to that for a long time (if he's still talking about it). He gave us the test for Kohlberg's deal. I didn't make it to Stage 6 but tried to argue my way to it. Nidich used the definition to

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Used UK Natal Chart to Foresee Events? (for Unstressor)

2005-07-08 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To all members: It appears that MMY used the UK natal chart to foresee the difficult period for the nation. Using the natal chart (based on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Used UK Natal Chart to Foresee Events? (for Unstressor)

2005-07-08 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To all members: It appears that MMY used the UK natal chart to foresee the difficult period for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Used UK Natal Chart to Foresee Events?

2005-07-08 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, chandashari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] If you saw my recent posting I pointed out that Professor Choudhry in India, based on the current transits of the planets made the following announcement - and

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Used UK Natal Chart to Foresee Events? (for Unstressor)

2005-07-08 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To all members: It appears that MMY used the UK natal chart to foresee

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Sandy's been in to that for a long time (if he's still talking about it). He gave us the test for Kohlberg's deal. I didn't make it to Stage 6 but tried to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brits had advance warning of attacks

2005-07-08 Thread Robert Gimbel
-Netanyahu: Advance warning reports 'absolutely false http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45182 -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: British police told the Israeli

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Used UK Natal Chart to Foresee Events?

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, chandashari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] If you saw my recent posting I pointed out that Professor Choudhry in

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Used UK Natal Chart to Foresee Events?

2005-07-08 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, chandashari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 7th to 9th July, 2005, are days of caution for everyone. Avoid hurry and have patience.

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi effect (was Re: Unprecedented Nature Support?)

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Sandy's been in to that for a long time (if he's still talking about it).

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: [NESARA CANADA] Message from the Galactic Federation of Light, 7th July 2005

2005-07-08 Thread Robert Gimbel
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