I saw it. She was great. Funny, energetic, and she
glowed.
The TM poster girl does body shots.
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002"
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> > I think teaching TM is a good thing, but when I think about the TMO
> > I'm reminded of this quote from Jung: "Hysterical
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re: previous post asking about the new Advaitins and if there's
anything negative that can be said about them. I call them Neo-
Advaitins.
Most are non-progressivists in the traditions of Ramana Maharshi and
Nisargadatta Maharaj. HWL Poonja, a disciple of RM, has spawned a
sizeable brood of th
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> on 1/2/06 5:50 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > That's why the NLP was a horrible disaster for the TMO. They
should
> > NEVER have done it, it was wrong, and it was just another nail in
> > the c
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> Playboy Makes Move in India, but Without the Centerfold
>
> By ANAND GIRIDHARADAS
> Published: January 2, 2006
> MUMBAI, India - In a little-noticed milestone for the world of sex-
related entertainment,
> Playboy
Comment below:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Jan 2, 2006, at 9:10 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:
>
> > If Nisargadatta was speaking "generally" in those talks, withholding
> > the "real methods" of realization then it would seem to me that he was
> > a pr
Oh, we have plenty of characters here, Rick. There's a limit? I think we're probably over.
Sal
On Jan 2, 2006, at 9:01 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
Yeah, I'm tempted to put it on the FFL home page, but there's a character
limit.
The kalyuga has arrived.
Sal
On Jan 2, 2006, at 8:06 PM, L B Shriver wrote:
Playboy Makes Move in India, but Without the Centerfold
On Jan 2, 2006, at 9:10 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:If Nisargadatta was speaking "generally" in those talks, withholding the "real methods" of realization then it would seem to me that he was a profound liar, inasmuch as the directness, simplicity and lucidity of what he says in those talks is so comp
Meanwhile, prostitution, including the use of kidnapped children, is
rampant. Amma was gearing up to do something about the problem when the
tsunami hit and she had to deal with that. Just recently, she's begun to
turn her attention to this again. She talked about this in Vaju's living
room the nig
on 1/2/06 7:44 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I think teaching TM is a good thing, but when I think about the TMO
>> I'm reminded of this quote from Jung: "Hysterical self-deceivers...
>> pr
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>
> That's why the NLP was a horrible disaster for the TMO. They should
> NEVER have done it, it was wrong, and it was just another nail in
> the coffin of what was once a great movement.
I pretty much agree with you, but Maharishi said
on 1/2/06 5:22 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>> on 1/2/06 2:11 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>
>>> But I do accept the premise that TM works and does everything that
>>> is claimed that
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> Hi Marek,
>
> I've been "away" for a bit and not following the action here. Nice
post. Certainly gives a
> new take on Nisargadatta.
>
> Where did you learn these things about hi
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**SNIP**
> > Apparently Nisargadatta's method of the abidance in the "I Am" *was*
> > what his guru taught.
>
> Or he spoke very generally to his students and withheld the actual
> methods leading to the "abid
Playboy Makes Move in India, but Without the Centerfold
By ANAND GIRIDHARADAS
Published: January 2, 2006
MUMBAI, India - In a little-noticed milestone for the world of sex-related
entertainment,
Playboy said last month that it would seek to do in India what it had never
done before:
publish a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think teaching TM is a good thing, but when I think about the TMO
> I'm reminded of this quote from Jung: "Hysterical self-deceivers...
> pretend to be seekers after God in order not to have to face the truth
>
Hi Marek,
I've been "away" for a bit and not following the action here. Nice post.
Certainly gives a
new take on Nisargadatta.
Where did you learn these things about his guru, his practice, his teachings?
L B S
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
On Jan 2, 2006, at 7:41 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:Comment below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jan 2, 2006, at 4:15 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: As Nisargadatta says, it's your earnestness that is key. Did Nisargadatta ever teach the methods he learned from
Comment below:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2006, at 4:15 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:
>
> > As Nisargadatta says,
> > it's your earnestness that is key.
>
> Did Nisargadatta ever teach the methods he learned from his Nath guru
> (that got hi
On Jan 2, 2006, at 6:05 PM, sparaig wrote:Unless there's some strong grammarical reason to assume that "desire" refers to desire for samadhi, even the "desire" translation makes sense to me. Desires hold you back according to some traditions, so the closer you are to samadhi, the stronger your
On Jan 2, 2006, at 4:15 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:As Nisargadatta says, it's your earnestness that is key. Did Nisargadatta ever teach the methods he learned from his Nath guru (that got him enlightened) to his students?
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On Jan 2, 2006, at 5:58 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Rick Archer wrote: on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Different cultures define "caring" in different ways. The TMO's founder is Hind
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shirleybrahman"
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>
> Shemp
> Apologies in advance for calling you names on my very first post to
> this newsgroup. I've heard the argument you have put forth by
seekers
> in both the TM group as well as other so-called spiritual gro
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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>
> on 1/2/06 2:11 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > But I do accept the premise that TM works and does everything
that
> > is claimed that it does.
> >
> > But what the TMO has been doing for the pas
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>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
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> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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> > wrote:
> > >
> > > on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig
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wrote:
>
> on 1/2/06 2:11 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > But I do accept the premise that TM works and does everything that
> > is claimed that it does.
> >
> > But what the TMO has been doing for the past
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>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
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> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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> > wrote:
> > >
> > > on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig
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> on 1/2/06 12:51 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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> > wrote:
> >>
> >> on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shirleybrahman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > When you've got the answer to all of life's problems (i.e. TM),
> > why waste your precious time setting up hospitals and stu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > on 1/2/06 10:43 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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> wrote:
> >
> > on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Different cultures define "caring" in different ways. The TM
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>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > --- cardemaister wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Taimni's translation:
> > > >
> > > > It (samaadhi) is nearest to those whose
>
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>
> And not only that, but those same people often becoming sick based on
> the TMO's health ideas, such as they are, and when they do getting
> tossed out on their rears, sometimes after decades of service.
>
> Sal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:24 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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>
> on 1/2/06 10:43 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
>
> > on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >> Different cultures define "caring" in different ways. The TMO's
> >> founder is Hindu, and charity work
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> >
> > In any case, of course you have to discriminate and
> > make evolutionary decisions; that isn't what I mean
> > by "judgmental
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> on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Different cultures define "caring" in different ways. The TMO's
> > founder is Hindu, and charity work isn't always the top of the list
> > for Hindus, I g
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I think it is safe to say that one could spen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam"
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>
> > --- cardemaister wrote:
> > >
> > > Taimni's translation:
> > >
> > > It (samaadhi) is nearest to those whose
> > > desire (for samaadhi) is intensely strong.
>
> sparaig wrote:
>
> > When samadhi is close,
Shemp
Apologies in advance for calling you names on my very first post to
this newsgroup. I've heard the argument you have put forth by seekers
in both the TM group as well as other so-called spiritual groups and
it always gets me riled up. Again, apologies.
(all this is) Shirley Brahman
--- In F
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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> wrote:
> >
> > on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Different cultures define "caring" in different ways. The TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2006, at 3:01 PM, authfriend wrote:
>
> > It might become that if I had suggested it seemed "bitter"
> > to me, but you made that up. Perhaps you'd like to read
> > what I wrote again and respond to that instead
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> In any case, of course you have to discriminate and
> make evolutionary decisions; that isn't what I mean
> by "judgmentalism." You can say, e.g., I choose to
> do THIS rather than THAT, without saying, They're
>
on 1/2/06 2:11 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> But I do accept the premise that TM works and does everything that
> is claimed that it does.
>
> But what the TMO has been doing for the past 25 years has, in my
> opinion, been directly at odds with promulgating TM>
Then I guess TM
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
**SNIP**
> >> Different cultures define "caring" in different ways. The TMO's
> >> founder is Hindu, and charity work isn't always the top of the list
> >> for Hindus, I guess due to the reincarnation/karma thing
On Jan 2, 2006, at 3:01 PM, authfriend wrote:It might become that if I had suggested it seemed "bitter" to me, but you made that up. Perhaps you'd like to read what I wrote again and respond to that instead of to your fantasies of what I wrote? It was sweet then? What rasa did you get from it?
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Different cultures define "caring" in different ways. The TMO'
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wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000"
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> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroup
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogro
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > When you've got the answer to all of life's problems (i.e. TM),
why
> > waste your precious time setting up hospitals
Georges Faure: What's that?
Bronte Mitchell Faure: Oh, it's... it's just a gardening group. We
go into poor areas,like the Lower East Side, and...
Georges: I came from that life. You waste your time.
Bronte: What?
Georges: Yeah. Nothing will change down there. It will always be
that way. Bet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:08 AM, authfriend wrote:
>
> > What's a bit odd about the current discussion of the
> > TMO's perceived lack of spirituality is how judgmental
> > it is. Aren't being spiritual and being judgmental
>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I think it is safe to say that one could spen
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>
> on 1/2/06 12:51 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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> on 1/2/06 8:43 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > It's just that in MMY's teaching, the means is to
> > become enlightened oneself, on the theory that the
> > effectiveness of one's service to others is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> When you've got the answer to all of life's problems (i.e. TM), why
> waste your precious time setting up hospitals and stuff like that?
Better to spend yet another year of your precious time trying to raise
billio
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Different cultures define "caring" in different ways. The TMO'
on 1/2/06 12:51 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> Different cultures define "caring" in different ways. The TMO's
>>> founder is Hindu, a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Different cultures define "caring" in different ways. The TMO's
> > founder is Hindu, and charity work isn't always the top of the list
> > for Hindus, I gu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.co
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 1/2/06 10:43 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Different cultures define "caring" in different ways. The TMO's
> > founder is Hindu, and charity work isn't always the top of the list
> > for Hindus, I g
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Dec/wnews_21dec2005_128.ram
>
> At one hour and six minutes, Guru Bev reports that a Japanese
Buddhist
> monk recently instructed 440 Buddhist monks in Thailand in the
> practice of TM.
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > --- cardemaister wrote:
> > >
> > > Taimni's translation:
> > >
> > > It (samaadhi) is nearest to those whose
> > > desire (for samaadhi) is intensely strong.
>
> sparaig wrote:
>
> > When samadhi is close,
And not only that, but those same people often becoming sick based on the TMO's health ideas, such as they are, and when they do getting tossed out on their rears, sometimes after decades of service.
Sal
On Jan 2, 2006, at 10:24 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
And the *reason* they suspect this is becau
on 1/2/06 10:43 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> Different cultures define "caring" in different ways. The TMO's
>>> founder is Hin
On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:24 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think it is safe to say that one could spend an entire lifetime in the TM movement and never hea
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > Different cultures define "caring" in different ways. The TMO's
> > founder is Hindu, and charity work isn't always the top of the list
> > for Hindus, I gu
On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Rick Archer wrote:on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Different cultures define "caring" in different ways. The TMO's founder is Hindu, and charity work isn't always the top of the list for Hindus, I guess due to the reincarnation/karma thing. Amm
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> > I think it is safe to say that one could spend an
> > entire lifetime in the TM movement and never hear
> > the concept of one's everyd
on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Different cultures define "caring" in different ways. The TMO's
> founder is Hindu, and charity work isn't always the top of the list
> for Hindus, I guess due to the reincarnation/karma thing.
Amma's a Hindu, and it's at the top of her lis
On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:08 AM, authfriend wrote:What's a bit odd about the current discussion of the TMO's perceived lack of spirituality is how judgmental it is. Aren't being spiritual and being judgmental mutually contradictory? Maybe they're just speaking the sweet truth. The question then beco
on 1/2/06 8:43 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It's just that in MMY's teaching, the means is to
> become enlightened oneself, on the theory that the
> effectiveness of one's service to others is
> dependent on the degree of one's own enlightenment.
> Plus which, the *process* of beco
on 1/2/06 7:02 AM, mrsatva at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Do you think the majority of the day to day "heartless behavior" can
> be explaned by stress releese ? (Not talking about MMY, Beven...,
> talking about "normal" meditators, siddhas, teachers)
MMY and Bevan set the example. I don't have a
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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> > > on 1/1/06 9:35 AM, mrsatva at [EMAIL PROT
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> Perhaps, but for the vast majority of people, the
> opportunity to be
> around people who are genuinely enlightened
> (whatever that means)
> seems quite limited. Trying to find people who are
> somewhat
> enlightened and being around them simply b
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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> > on 1/1/06 9:35 AM, mrsatva at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > >> Because it got too weird for people, or what ?
> > >
> > > Probebly
> --- cardemaister wrote:
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> > Taimni's translation:
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> > It (samaadhi) is nearest to those whose
> > desire (for samaadhi) is intensely strong.
sparaig wrote:
> When samadhi is close, unstressing is strong.
Sparaig's translation makes more sense to me. Going
back to my empirical view o
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mrsatva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > (...) the reason for this is that the predominant
> > > myth in the TMO is the importance of one's personal
> > > enlightenment (.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mrsatva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Yup. It's a movement full of people who care more
> > about talking the talk than they do walking the
> > walk. In fact, there is no perceived *value* in
> > walking the walk, whereas there is for talking
> > the talk
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> --- mrsatva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > For some reason, I felt like writing this as a
> > series of questions.
> > I think
> > > each question could be answered with examples both
> > pro and con, so
> > we w
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mrsatva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > For some reason, I felt like writing this as a series of
questions.
> I think
> > each question could be answered with examples both pro and con, so
> we would
> > have to look at what the predominant tendency has bee
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Dec/wnews_21dec2005_128.ram
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> At one hour and six minutes, Guru Bev reports that a Japanese
Buddhist
> monk recently instructed 440 Buddhist monks in Thailand in the
> practice of TM.
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mrsatva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > (...) the reason for this is that the predominant
> > myth in the TMO is the importance of one's personal
> > enlightenment (...) terms of social interaction.
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> Does this meen, most tm peoples think that they can
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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> > I wonder how the TMO compares with other spiritual movements
> > in terms of this problem.
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> I can't speak for all other spiritu
> Yup. It's a movement full of people who care more
> about talking the talk than they do walking the
> walk. In fact, there is no perceived *value* in
> walking the walk, whereas there is for talking
> the talk. Good talkers get promoted into the
> movement hierarchy, whereas those who actually
>
--- mrsatva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > For some reason, I felt like writing this as a
> series of questions.
> I think
> > each question could be answered with examples both
> pro and con, so
> we would
> > have to look at what the predominant tendency has
> been.
> >
>
>
> Because of my
> For some reason, I felt like writing this as a series of questions.
I think
> each question could be answered with examples both pro and con, so
we would
> have to look at what the predominant tendency has been.
>
Because of my limited english skill, answering on this post would take
me houers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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> on 1/1/06 9:35 AM, mrsatva at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> >> Because it got too weird for people, or what ?
> >
> > Probebly all the reasons why people are leaving the TMO...
> >
> > I have been thinking about it fo
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