[FairfieldLife] Re: Kubrick The Illuminati
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Your message has made my day! If you have any other recollections of the filming of Eyes Wide Shut do share them. That's all my EWS stories from Mentmore but I did read an article about Kubrick by Guardian journo Jon Ronson, he was invited to have a look round Kubrick's office after he'd died and one of the curios he found was a box of photographs of doors. Thousands of them. Apparently he'd sent scouts round London taking pics of every door they could find and when he found the one he wanted he had a replica made. Pretty obsessive, especially since it was used only once in the film when Tom Cruise visits his friend and knocks on it, the door opens and he walks through. That was it! Kubrick was a notorious perfectionist, he was working on a movie about Napoleon and he had boxes of index cards detailing every single day of his life. Not all of it was known obviously but what isn't was inferred from what is known and the whole thing was cross indexed to every known letter sent or received and every book, newspaper, magazine about him. You realise why his films have that very controlled look about them when you know this. But he was apparently very hard to work with due to his perfectionism, you had to live up to it too. My Dad worked in the technical side of the film business based at Pinewood Studios and knew what it was like having to process everything to his standards. I used to help out there during school holidays which was cool. Kubrick ended up living near Pinewood because he hated flying so much and he only got on a plane once to come here and do some filming for Paths of Glory (I think) and he never went home, just stayed in England! So the sets of all his films, no matter where they were set, had to be recreated between Slough and Watford. This is what spoiled Full Metal Jacket The US boot camp scenes all have those concrete municipal lampposts that English councils put up in the 30's. I don't believe they have identical ones in Florida, and it destroyed the illusion for me. Odd for an obsessive like Kubrick to overlook it though. Although Eyes Wide Shut was talked down by the critics I really loved it (I've seen the movie three times so far). The sexual paranoia that pervades the film really appeals. But to learn that the house where the sex party/rites scene was shot has at least a tenuous link to Maharishi's Mentmore Towers means that I myself can fantasize that I have at least a flimsy connection to the sinister cult portrayed! I didn't like EWS actually, I thought it was too late into the modern world to be effective. I got the impression Kubrick must have had a sheltered life for him to think that women having sexual fantasies was shocking enough to send men into a dark night of the soul like Cruise went on. I like his distinctive directing style though but it works best on 2001 I think. But we had a video collection at Mentmore of everything that had been filmed there, Inspector Morse, The Mummy. Loads of pop videos, the Spice Girls did one there, I didn't meet them but they were really hideous apparently, load and obnoxious, always swearing and sneering at everyone. Friends of mine living there had a daughter who was 10 at the time and she asked for an autograph and they said no. The public image of girl power slipped a bit there! Until you mentioned it, I hadn't realised that the orgy scene was set to a recitation of The Bhagavad Gita . This is getting better and better! The icing on the cake would have been if they had used MMY's translation (!). Unfortunately I just Googled the details and it turns out that Hindus objected to the use of the Gita (on the film's original release) and it was cut from the movie you can see on DVD today. (There's some chanting earlier in the scene which is a Catholic text played backwards! I've pasted a link below.) The original Sanskrit recitation that Kubrick intended (damn Warner Brothers for getting cold feet and deleting it!) read: Parithranaya Saadhunam Vinashaya cha dushkrithaam Dharmasamsthabanarthaya Sambhavami yuge yuge which means: For the protection of the virtuous, for the destruction of the evil and for the firm establishment of Dharma (righteousness), I take birth and am incarnated on Earth, from age to age. Amazing they deleted it. It's the professionally offended again. Curse their eyes! Re Mentmore Towers: say what you like but MMY knew how to pick some prime real estate. Beautiful building and grounds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTwRRwUb4IE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTwRRwUb4IE I loved living there. I was recruited by the media officer because I'd worked in PR and quit my job and moved in without even knowing if I was going to be paid - such was my love of TM and the promise of rapid evolution living among the enlightened, did I have a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kubrick The Illuminati
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com That's all my EWS stories from Mentmore but I did read an article about Kubrick by Guardian journo Jon Ronson, he was invited to have a look round Kubrick's office after he'd died and one of the curios he found was a box of photographs of doors. Thousands of them. Apparently he'd sent scouts round London taking pics of every door they could find and when he found the one he wanted he had a replica made. Pretty obsessive, especially since it was used only once in the film when Tom Cruise visits his friend and knocks on it, the door opens and he walks through. That was it! Although as I mentioned before Kubrick is not one of my favorites, I love stories like this. I heard another one about Michaelangelo Antonioni. He was filming a scene on a beach for one of his films, looked through the viewfinder just before he was about to start shooting, swore, and sent the actors back to their trailers. Their action was in the foreground, with the rest of the beach curving around in the background of the shot. But something wasn't right with that background, so he sent a bunch of people to ask the people who owned one house half a mile away whether he could paint it red for the shot. After much wrangling (and days wasted because the scene couldn't be completed until this was done), the owners agreed, as long as he painted it back to the original color again when he was finished. These days you'd just take care of this in post-processing with CGI. Kubrick was a notorious perfectionist, he was working on a movie about Napoleon and he had boxes of index cards detailing every single day of his life. Not all of it was known obviously but what isn't was inferred from what is known and the whole thing was cross indexed to every known letter sent or received and every book, newspaper, magazine about him. You realise why his films have that very controlled look about them when you know this. But he was apparently very hard to work with due to his perfectionism, you had to live up to it too. My Dad worked in the technical side of the film business based at Pinewood Studios and knew what it was like having to process everything to his standards. I used to help out there during school holidays which was cool. Cool. What a fun thing to do. The closest I ever got to a movie set was skipping school and working as an extra on an Italian Bible epic being filmed in Morocco. Appropriately enough given criticisms people have of me here, the film was called, The Last Days Of Sodom And Gomorrah. :-) Kubrick ended up living near Pinewood because he hated flying so much and he only got on a plane once to come here and do some filming for Paths of Glory (I think) and he never went home, just stayed in England! So the sets of all his films, no matter where they were set, had to be recreated between Slough and Watford. This is what spoiled Full Metal Jacket The US boot camp scenes all have those concrete municipal lampposts that English councils put up in the 30's. I don't believe they have identical ones in Florida, and it destroyed the illusion for me. Odd for an obsessive like Kubrick to overlook it though. Although Eyes Wide Shut was talked down by the critics I really loved it (I've seen the movie three times so far). The sexual paranoia that pervades the film really appeals. But to learn that the house where the sex party/rites scene was shot has at least a tenuous link to Maharishi's Mentmore Towers means that I myself can fantasize that I have at least a flimsy connection to the sinister cult portrayed! I didn't like EWS actually, I thought it was too late into the modern world to be effective. I got the impression Kubrick must have had a sheltered life for him to think that women having sexual fantasies was shocking enough to send men into a dark night of the soul like Cruise went on. Exactly. I found myself hideously bored by all of the characters in EWS, especially Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. There was simply nothing about them and their lives that I found interesting, so it was difficult for me to find the film interesting. I like his distinctive directing style though but it works best on 2001 I think. The Kubrick film I find most revealing in terms of what I didn't like about him as a writer and a director wasn't even filmed by Kubrick. He wrote the screenplay but died before making the film, so it was created as a tribute by Steven Spielberg, and called A.I. For me, this film pinpoints Kubrick's biggest weakness -- he really didn't get human beings...how they think and act, and what makes them tick. He was so stuck in his own head that the things he came up with as plots often felt so *false* as to be unbelievable. The example in A.I. is that ostensibly (according to the voiceover introduction and Kubrick's script) the film was all about, Can a robot feel love? Yet if you watch the movie and pay attention, the entire
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kubrick The Illuminati
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com That's all my EWS stories from Mentmore but I did read an article about Kubrick by Guardian journo Jon Ronson, he was invited to have a look round Kubrick's office after he'd died and one of the curios he found was a box of photographs of doors. Thousands of them. Apparently he'd sent scouts round London taking pics of every door they could find and when he found the one he wanted he had a replica made. Pretty obsessive, especially since it was used only once in the film when Tom Cruise visits his friend and knocks on it, the door opens and he walks through. That was it! Although as I mentioned before Kubrick is not one of my favorites, I love stories like this. I heard another one about Michaelangelo Antonioni. He was filming a scene on a beach for one of his films, looked through the viewfinder just before he was about to start shooting, swore, and sent the actors back to their trailers. Their action was in the foreground, with the rest of the beach curving around in the background of the shot. But something wasn't right with that background, so he sent a bunch of people to ask the people who owned one house half a mile away whether he could paint it red for the shot. After much wrangling (and days wasted because the scene couldn't be completed until this was done), the owners agreed, as long as he painted it back to the original color again when he was finished. These days you'd just take care of this in post-processing with CGI. Amazing, these artistic types! When I saw Quills I was scanning the shots of the house exterior for my TV ariel that I'd installed on a broomstick surrounded by bricks and had forgotten to take down. But that had been removed digitally, would be on those bloopers shows if they hadn't. Kubrick was a notorious perfectionist, he was working on a movie about Napoleon and he had boxes of index cards detailing every single day of his life. Not all of it was known obviously but what isn't was inferred from what is known and the whole thing was cross indexed to every known letter sent or received and every book, newspaper, magazine about him. You realise why his films have that very controlled look about them when you know this. But he was apparently very hard to work with due to his perfectionism, you had to live up to it too. My Dad worked in the technical side of the film business based at Pinewood Studios and knew what it was like having to process everything to his standards. I used to help out there during school holidays which was cool. Cool. What a fun thing to do. The closest I ever got to a movie set was skipping school and working as an extra on an Italian Bible epic being filmed in Morocco. Appropriately enough given criticisms people have of me here, the film was called, The Last Days Of Sodom And Gomorrah. :-) Careful, we don't want to lose anyone else... I saw a lot of movies before anyone else did, sometimes in the editing room. We were always invited to cast/crew screenings of Bond movies. My Dad even had a letter that would get him into any cinema in the country. We saw Star Wars in 77 and walked straight past the queues to the doorman who read my dad's letter and ushered to the best seats in the house. I don't know what the letter said, I've got a gun in my pocket maybe? Kubrick ended up living near Pinewood because he hated flying so much and he only got on a plane once to come here and do some filming for Paths of Glory (I think) and he never went home, just stayed in England! So the sets of all his films, no matter where they were set, had to be recreated between Slough and Watford. This is what spoiled Full Metal Jacket The US boot camp scenes all have those concrete municipal lampposts that English councils put up in the 30's. I don't believe they have identical ones in Florida, and it destroyed the illusion for me. Odd for an obsessive like Kubrick to overlook it though. Although Eyes Wide Shut was talked down by the critics I really loved it (I've seen the movie three times so far). The sexual paranoia that pervades the film really appeals. But to learn that the house where the sex party/rites scene was shot has at least a tenuous link to Maharishi's Mentmore Towers means that I myself can fantasize that I have at least a flimsy connection to the sinister cult portrayed! I didn't like EWS actually, I thought it was too late into the modern world to be effective. I got the impression Kubrick must have had a sheltered life for him to think that women having sexual fantasies was shocking enough to send men into a dark night of the soul like Cruise went on. Exactly. I found myself hideously bored by all of the characters in EWS, especially Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. There was simply nothing about them and their lives that I found
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : How you know Sal didn't dummy up the numbers for his horoscope? As little as he thinks of astrology, I wouldn't be surprised. No, that was my real birthchart and Bhairitu worked out the rest. I would have been interested if anyone had a go at making any predictions and we could have seen what connection (if any) it had to my actual life at the moment. I'd be honest if it all came out 100% accurate. But could probably come up with a convincing psychological explanation as to why it had ;-) From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... You're my nephew's age. I surmised an age for you given when you were at MUM. Salyavin supposed provided his horoscope from which one can figure the date of birth almost down to the time. I never looked at physical age so much as mental age. It's sort of like you can have a room full of people of different age groups but same mindset. On 11/29/2014 12:06 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: How are innocent young souls like me and MJ going to learn what's right with the type of role models we've got here? Ha ha! Good one Sal!! I'm 58 now meself. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : It was Judy who brought that phrase about being open minded, attributed to her dad, after I accused her of being close minded on a topic. What is happening to FFL is we are getting old and cranky. Some of us are approaching our 70s and some are already there. And we have some that are a generation younger (apparently Salyavin and MJ). Yes, and I must say you lot aren't being a very good influence. How are innocent young souls like me and MJ going to learn what's right with the type of role models we've got here? It is kinda unusual to watch a group fly this out of control. Usually moderators will keep things civil but then there's nothing like a free for all either. Some of us like to keep our anonymity because we don't want (having been TM teachers) unwarranted reprisals from the TMO. Even Judy recommended it. I think it's been quite civil actually, just a few resignations in protest and a few lawsuit threats. Could have been a lot worse. I blame all the spiritual detachment we have. But anyway the place also has to keep up it's appearances as a loony bin which doesn't seem to hard to do. :-D Remember, it's entirely your decision whether you are inside or outside the asylum! On 11/29/2014 09:33 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am just trying to keep from being so open minded that my brains fall out! Glad it made you laugh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, I'm still LOLing as I reply. What got me laughing was your comment about what is overrated at this stage of life. Being vague so others can enjoy it for themselves... Have fun tomorrow and I look forward to your report. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here I had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will scenarios about my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about Maharishi's teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting here. I am happy to see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while hilariously claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil here! I do not believe it will last any more than his participation on then other enlightened forum, but hope to be proven wrong. I think you were right to go the legal route because they were crossing a weird and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity between how you post here and what those guys were up to. FFL has gone through many different incarnations as strongly influential posters come and go. I viewed the end of the Judy era as a positive thing, but was disturbed to see how others escalated to fill the gap. Judy ran her routine in a much more interesting way IMO, so despite strongly dissagreing with her most of the time, I was entertained
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kubrick The Illuminati
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
The Kubrick film I find most revealing in terms of what I didn't like about
him as a writer and a director wasn't even filmed by Kubrick. He wrote the
screenplay but died before making the film, so it was created as a tribute by
Steven Spielberg, and called A.I. For me, this film pinpoints Kubrick's
biggest weakness -- he really didn't get human beings...how they think and
act, and what makes them tick. He was so stuck in his own head that the things
he came up with as plots often felt so *false* as to be unbelievable.
The example in A.I. is that ostensibly (according to the voiceover
introduction and Kubrick's script) the film was all about, Can a robot feel
love? Yet if you watch the movie and pay attention, the entire movie is the
robot obsessing about whether anyone loves *him*. Kubrick never noticed.
I never saw it, but did hear that Spielberg added a lot of shmaltz to it, but
maybe it would have been unbearable to me anyway even without anything extra
from a seasoned emotional manipulator like Spielberg.
I do think that Kubrick's oddly disconnected style of super-controlled film
making suited futuristic things. I really like A Clockwork Orange, it's a
shame enough other people didn't get it to the extent that he had to remove it
from release himself. I heard a girl actually got raped by people dressed like
the Droogs in the film. Talk about missing the point...
Agreed that his style was better suited to portraying robots than humans, and
thus better suited to scifi. Re missing the point about the gang rape scene
in A Clockwork Orange, the worst part about your story is that I heard that
the wife of Anthony Burgess, author of the original novella Kubrick based the
film on, really was gang-raped during the blackout in London. That event and
its aftermath is what caused Burgess to write the novella.
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[FairfieldLife] Dear Rick
Dear Rick - Your porn-site sucks!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kubrick The Illuminati
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : The Kubrick film I find most revealing in terms of what I didn't like about him as a writer and a director wasn't even filmed by Kubrick. He wrote the screenplay but died before making the film, so it was created as a tribute by Steven Spielberg, and called A.I. For me, this film pinpoints Kubrick's biggest weakness -- he really didn't get human beings...how they think and act, and what makes them tick. He was so stuck in his own head that the things he came up with as plots often felt so *false* as to be unbelievable. The example in A.I. is that ostensibly (according to the voiceover introduction and Kubrick's script) the film was all about, Can a robot feel love? Yet if you watch the movie and pay attention, the entire movie is the robot obsessing about whether anyone loves *him*. Kubrick never noticed. I never saw it, but did hear that Spielberg added a lot of shmaltz to it, but maybe it would have been unbearable to me anyway even without anything extra from a seasoned emotional manipulator like Spielberg. I do think that Kubrick's oddly disconnected style of super-controlled film making suited futuristic things. I really like A Clockwork Orange, it's a shame enough other people didn't get it to the extent that he had to remove it from release himself. I heard a girl actually got raped by people dressed like the Droogs in the film. Talk about missing the point... Agreed that his style was better suited to portraying robots than humans, and thus better suited to scifi. Re missing the point about the gang rape scene in A Clockwork Orange, the worst part about your story is that I heard that the wife of Anthony Burgess, author of the original novella Kubrick based the film on, really was gang-raped during the blackout in London. That event and its aftermath is what caused Burgess to write the novella. Oh dear, I didn't know that. That would explain his justification for the ending. It's funny, I always thought that most people didn't get the point of the film. Most see it as a warning about state mind control but it always seemed to me to be about the difference between social and personal vengeance. That the state don't have the right to let emotions dictate policy and treatment of prisoners, but people can't help themselves from acting out how they feel - especially when confronted with the fact they are fighting for the rights of someone who committed grievous harm on them and their own. Kubrick never talked about his reasons for making the film, which is proper as it makes it more philosophical for the viewer. I consider it an artistic success but hope I'm not alone in finding it to be hilarious in a dark Itchy and Scratchy kind of way
[FairfieldLife] Hammond's Channel of Maharishi and the DC TM Meeting
FFL Indexing, of Hammond's Channel of Maharishi 405231FW: Latest, November 30th TM event https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/405231 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/405231 Recently, Maharishi has Visited 0ver 20 People https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/405600 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/405600 Original Post: 30th November | Channeled Info from MMY Nov 30 TM meeting: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/396304 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/396304 399078Hagelin's Memo on Hammond to the Re-certs Hagelin's Memo on Hammond's schismatic fragmentation https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/399078 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/399078 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/399077 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/399077 398711Re: [FairfieldLife] The Jerry email to John sent on Sunday https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398711 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398711 George hammond letter https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398505 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398505 George Hammond's November 30 webpage http://30thnovember.com/ http://30thnovember.com/ Curtis on channelers https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398729 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398729
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
Barry, your recent use of crude language and imagery for the sake of pushing buttons is just an escalation of your usual MO, which I usually respond to by making fun of you. What I find funny is your delusion that inventing an offensive straw-man (offensive to any normal human being) in order to push true believer buttons will somehow expose and perhaps liberate them their TMO/MMY delusions. What you never seem to get is that how people respond to you is about your offensive behavior, period. Apart from the fact that IMO you are a narcissistic, self-righteous, self-aggrandizing human being, your failed mission to wake up perceived cultists from *your* cult nightmare IS NOT WORKING. You cannot fix whatever hurts from cults you have experienced in the past by projecting unresolved pain onto others. Granted, implying the police ought to investigate you as a child abuser is a bridge too far. Let's just say you brought it on yourself and leave it at that.
[FairfieldLife] A Pattern of Porn, was It's the cult thinking, stupid!
On 11/26/2014 10:47 PM, steve.sundur wrote: Do your realize that someone you respect, Alex, recently called you out for your vile need to provoke people, in a rather sick fashion. Oh, I love the bit about the pattern you've been trying to document on this forum you really don't realize how perverted that sounds. It's a sick pattern that spans over a decade, Steve. Apparently /Uncle Tantra/ wants this to be his very own forum for reviewing pirated porn movies. I can't imagine him subjecting his own family to such sick trash as he watches, so he obviously must watch them alone up in his bedroom late at night on his laptop computer. His colorful language is almost pure porn meant to titilate. Go figure. tit·il·late verb/ // //To stimulate or excite, especially in a sexual way./ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : */I hope I've made my point to lurkers and those with somewhat open minds. /* */ /* */All I had to do was use a little colorful language to describe Maharishi, and the four extreme cultists on this forum went fucking crazy attacking me. /* */ /* */I suggest that what Richard Williams, Jim Flanegin, Ann, and Steve have done in response to that is some of the purest CULT BEHAVIOR I've ever seen. /* */ /* */It follows a pattern I've been trying to document on this forum since I arrived on it, a tendency to react to anyone who criticizes, makes fun of, or (worst) shows zero respect for the person they're guru-whipped by with anger, hatred, and a dedicated attempt to get them. /* */ /* */Richard has demonstrated a willingness to lie to do this, signing my name to things I didn't write. Jim has demonstrated a willingness to stalk me on the Internet to find photos that he can then crop and caption to make them look more sinister, and Ann and Steve have demonstrated that they'll pounce on any subject (in this most recent case, polyamory) that allows them to get Barry./* */ /* */Did I provoke these people by intentionally pushing their buttons? /* */ /* */You betcha. I wanted to put their reactivity -- and the nature of it -- on display. /* */ /* */I think I succeeded. These four people, more than anything else, demonstrate why I consider TM a cult, and FFL a cult forum. These people were all TRAINED to act like this. /* */ /* */You may not like my tactics -- or me -- very much, but please watch these four in the future. They will probably continue to attack me, but watch how they treat *others* who dare to criticize Maharishi or TMers. They'll use the same tactics. If I've helped even a few people to see this, then I've succeeded. /* */ /* */ /* */ /*
[FairfieldLife] Porn Site, was Apologies...
On 11/30/2014 7:58 AM, raunchydog wrote: Barry, your recent use of crude language and imagery for the sake of pushing buttons is just an escalation of your usual MO, which I usually respond to by making fun of you. Barry Wright /(Uncle Tantra) /is liar and a poser and one sick puppy! Can anyone here imagine him aspiring to be a spiritual teacher? If I was Rick Archer, I would be embarrassed to be associated with FFL anymore. It's almost like a hate site these days - probably best left to those with a prurient interest in tantra and porn movies. What I find funny is your delusion that inventing an offensive straw-man (offensive to any normal human being) in order to push true believer buttons will somehow expose and perhaps liberate them their TMO/MMY delusions. What you never seem to get is that how people respond to you is about your offensive behavior, period. Apart from the fact that IMO you are a narcissistic, self-righteous, self-aggrandizing human being, your failed mission to wake up perceived cultists from *your* cult nightmare IS NOT WORKING. You cannot fix whatever hurts from cults you have experienced in the past by projecting unresolved pain onto others. Granted, implying the police ought to investigate you as a child abuser is a bridge too far. Let's just say you brought it on yourself and leave it at that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry's laughing his arse off at all of you.
On 11/30/2014 1:12 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: */I wouldn't normally bother with this tripe, cuz Empty is just sitting on his ass in whatever shithole country he lives in, thinking that gives him an idea how the law works in the Netherlands. It doesn't. /* Before you contact NE Social Services and Interpol, you might consider getting Rick to delete some of your recent sick messages. It sure won't look good for them to see what you've posted to FFL lately. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Yahoo Adminitrators are considering shutting this porn site down any day now. You've got to be the dumbest trolls on the internet! Just a suggestion: If I were you, I'd be making plans to move back to France real soon where they apparently appreciate your kind of /Uncle Tantra/ philosophy. I know I sure don't want to be associated with this kind of filth anymore. Go figure. /* */ */But as it turns out, the very existence of this harsh law that considers false slander and libel about a person a hate crime comes from situations that came up with *immigrants*. Yes, the Netherlands has racial bigots and conservatives like everywhere else, and so a number of years back some of these Dutch rednecks, angry that Muslim families were moving into their neighborhoods, started circulating rumors (and even giving interviews that put them into the press and onto TV) claiming that these new immigrants were all child molestors. They launched smear campaigns and tried to force these immigrants out by repeatedly calling Social Services and getting them to make visit after visit to these immigrants' homes, ostensibly to check on the welfare of the children. /* */ /* */Social Services never found any evidence of child abuse of any kind (including FGM), and so the authorities realized that there was a hate-crime-based smear campaign going on and wisely made it illegal to make such claims falsely. Since then people have been prosecuted under the law and actually sent to prison under it. /* */ /* */Finally, contrary to Empty's assumptions, in the Netherlands the law protects everyone, including immigrants. Sorry it's not like that wherever he's from. /* *From:* emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com in *Sent:* Sunday, November 30, 2014 12:46 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Barry's laughing his arse off at all of you. Barry, the American citizen, is claiming that he's going to the Dutch police to file Dutch charges against someone on an American internet forum for saying something he believes harms his reputation. This is hilarious and this is why Barry has played you all for gullible fools. To file charges you must convince a prosecutor: 1. that a crime was committed 2. that the criminal act was a relevant infraction of published Dutch law 3. that the act occurred in Dutch territory 4. that the person/place that is harmed is covered by Dutch law. 5. that any legal claims asserted by claimants have standing before the relevant court of law. Dutch law doesn't matter in Amerika. Barry doesn't matter in Amerika. FFL is none of the above. The hammer cracks. The case is closed. Read it weep at your gullibility. Read it and laugh at the absurdity. FFL is not the final archipelago of 18th Century European legal hegemony.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
Barry, your recent use of crude language and imagery for the sake of pushing buttons is just an escalation of your usual MO, which I usually respond to by making fun of you. What I find funny is your delusion that inventing an offensive straw-man (offensive to any normal human being) in order to push true believer buttons will somehow expose and perhaps liberate them from TMO/MMY delusions. You never seem to get is how people respond to you is about your offensive behavior, period. Apart from the fact that IMO you are a narcissistic, self-righteous, self-aggrandizing human being, your failed mission to wake up perceived cultists from *your* cult nightmare IS NOT WORKING. You cannot fix whatever hurts from cults you have experienced in the past by projecting unresolved pain onto others. Granted, implying the police ought to investigate you as a child abuser is a bridge too far. Let's just say you brought it on yourself and leave it at that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
dear Richard, I'll really miss you. Thank you for all the laughter and
knowledge and good you've brought into my life. all the best always to you and
Rita and your whole family,Share
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote:
Richard, I tried this last night but didn't notice anything different.
Maybe cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it? And I forgot to do it this
morning. Nonetheless, will soldier on, thanks again for posting.
The technique may not work for just anyone. Apparently MMY dropped using this
technique himself for some reason, but I found it quite enjoyable.
People usually think thoughts just before going to sleep but quite often they
are just random thinking without any direction.
Until I was taught the Night Technique by Satyanand, I used another
technique that I developed myself - you simply think of something positive to
look forward to the next day and then slip into sleep.
It works too, but not as well. There is something about the directed sound
vibration than is a subtle relaxing feeling with the bija mantra - Laya Yoga
while you sleep.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote:
So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few
times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the
techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it
was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which
included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you
can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about
the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into
the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard
that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So
you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze
mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your
boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I
couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream
to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is
there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a
case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or
maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others
have a more dominant will?
The trick is to practice a Laya Yoga technique we learned from Satyanand:
When you are ready for sleep you just sit up in bed and then let your bija
mantra rest at the heart chakra for a few minutes. That way, the subtle
currents from your Istadevata will permeate your entire being while you sleep.
For example, my Istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, so by
resting the bija portion of her mantra at the heart chakra, my intelligence
will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping.
Then, when you awaken in the morning you will feel refreshed and full of
energy and knowledge. It's that simple!
Anyone had a similar experience?
Yes. A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper is aware that he or she is
dreaming. From what I've read, the phenomenon of lucid dreaming has been well
established by scientific research, so its existence is well established.
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[FairfieldLife] The Sacking of FFL
Dear RD; Good Point RD, the ruse of these apostates trying to come back 'to save' people reads much more now like the harassment of a people who are otherwise comfortable having dealt with their own moral dissonances within their own community in their own terms to their own spiritual ends. Who are these neganauts to interfere with the internal affairs of others any way? It seems incredibly arrogant on their part to come in here and try to methodically disturb people's peace. It seems now quite a hateful and shocking harassment to use such defamatory language the way they do. Having learned their own particular histories as they have related them on FFL through time then sympathetically when considering these guys as sources of anything spiritual they are quite pitiable really. It is a shame that their abuse of the unguarded cultural openness of this community has allowed them to take over the flower that was FFL with their negativity and erode off our our more seasoned reasoned and experienced membership. -Buck in Fairfield, Iowa raunchydog wrote : Barry, your recent use of crude language and imagery for the sake of pushing buttons is just an escalation of your usual MO, which I usually respond to by making fun of you. What I find funny is your delusion that inventing an offensive straw-man (offensive to any normal human being) in order to push true believer buttons will somehow expose and perhaps liberate them from TMO/MMY delusions. You never seem to get is how people respond to you is about your offensive behavior, period. Apart from the fact that IMO you are a narcissistic, self-righteous, self-aggrandizing human being, your failed mission to wake up perceived cultists from *your* cult nightmare IS NOT WORKING. You cannot fix whatever hurts from cults you have experienced in the past by projecting unresolved pain onto others. Granted, implying the police ought to investigate you as a child abuser is a bridge too far. Let's just say you brought it on yourself and leave it at that.
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi Channelers...
So... who, other than those who say they have received messages from Him are taking seriously those who say that they have received messages from Him? Channeling has never struck me as anything MMY ever spoke very highly of when he was alive, and those who claim that they are receiving messages from Him are also saying that He wasn't enlightened, so why the f- are they capitalizing H when talking about Him in the first place? Just goes to show you how crazy some hardcore TMers are. IMHO, of course. L
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Sacking of FFL
Well it's lucky for you two that you have another option, you don't need to visit this place and lament at us fallen souls, you can go to Jim's new site and talk about how fantastic you and your beliefs are instead of getting depressed round here. It's only you that wants to stay here, ever ask yourself why? I'd say take Willytex with you but I doubt they'd have him, that sad sack of shit will probably be sitting here moaning about nothing until doomsday. What a waste of time for you all, visiting a website where all you do is complain about what goes on there! I mean go figure ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Dear RD; Good Point RD, the ruse of these apostates trying to come back 'to save' people reads much more now like the harassment of a people who are otherwise comfortable having dealt with their own moral dissonances within their own community in their own terms to their own spiritual ends. Who are these neganauts to interfere with the internal affairs of others any way? It seems incredibly arrogant on their part to come in here and try to methodically disturb people's peace. It seems now quite a hateful and shocking harassment to use such defamatory language the way they do. Having learned their own particular histories as they have related them on FFL through time then sympathetically when considering these guys as sources of anything spiritual they are quite pitiable really. It is a shame that their abuse of the unguarded cultural openness of this community has allowed them to take over the flower that was FFL with their negativity and erode off our our more seasoned reasoned and experienced membership. -Buck in Fairfield, Iowa raunchydog wrote : Barry, your recent use of crude language and imagery for the sake of pushing buttons is just an escalation of your usual MO, which I usually respond to by making fun of you. What I find funny is your delusion that inventing an offensive straw-man (offensive to any normal human being) in order to push true believer buttons will somehow expose and perhaps liberate them from TMO/MMY delusions. You never seem to get is how people respond to you is about your offensive behavior, period. Apart from the fact that IMO you are a narcissistic, self-righteous, self-aggrandizing human being, your failed mission to wake up perceived cultists from *your* cult nightmare IS NOT WORKING. You cannot fix whatever hurts from cults you have experienced in the past by projecting unresolved pain onto others. Granted, implying the police ought to investigate you as a child abuser is a bridge too far. Let's just say you brought it on yourself and leave it at that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barry's hate and laughing his arse off at all of you.
Uh Buck, given Empty's political persuasion, he probably looks upon the Southern Poverty Law Center as a commie outfit. On 11/29/2014 08:57 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Emptyb, it does seems like a calculated hate crime kind of harassment of a group of people according to what he is saying. So Emptyb in our now knowing this about Dutch law and the American citizen then as the original perp was he just trolling with bluff with all this about his butt-on-pushing comment about babies or was he being salacious? There is a FFL rap-record here of salacious trolling using titillation and this is not the first time said writer has been called on it. Seems though in its calculated method as it is reported by the perp it would likely be under hate crime. The better place to report this possibly is with Attorneys Generals likely in the home State for Yahoo Corporation and also the Southern Poverty Law Center to add to their hate crimes watch list to monitor. Jai Guru Dev,-Buck Southern Poverty Law Center http://www.splcenter.org/?gclid=CNq__o2_ocICFY4-MgodSDMAOQ image http://www.splcenter.org/?gclid=CNq__o2_ocICFY4-MgodSDMAOQ Southern Poverty Law Center http://www.splcenter.org/?gclid=CNq__o2_ocICFY4-MgodSDMAOQ The Southern Poverty Law Center was founded in 1971 as a small civil rights law firm. Today, the Center is internationally known for its tolerance education prog... View on www.splcenter.org http://www.splcenter.org/?gclid=CNq__o2_ocICFY4-MgodSDMAOQ Preview by Yahoo emptybill writes : Barry, the American citizen, is claiming that he's going to the Dutch police to file Dutch charges against someone on an American internet forum for saying something he believes harms his reputation. This is hilarious and this is why Barry has played you all for gullible fools. To file charges you must convince a prosecutor: 1. that a crime was committed 2. that the criminal act was a relevant infraction of published Dutch law 3. that the act occurred in Dutch territory 4. that the person/place that is harmed is covered by Dutch law. 5. that any legal claims asserted by claimants have standing before the relevant court of law. Dutch law doesn't matter in Amerika. Barry doesn't matter in Amerika. FFL is none of the above. The hammer cracks. The case is closed. Read it weep at your gullibility. Read it and laugh at the absurdity. FFL is not the final archipelago of 18th Century European legal hegemony.
[FairfieldLife] FFL Reincarnating as a Bi-location..
Yes sadly, FFL at Yahoo-groups in a fragmentation it seems now is Mostly Left to Angry People. -Buck still meditating in Fairfield, Iowa
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Sacking of FFL
It's *not*, after all, as if the description of this forum gives the impression
that it's a forum for TM blissninnies to come and discuss their fantasies
without being bothered by negativity --
We often discuss the trials and tribulations of the TM Movement, which may not
interest some, but that's why God created the delete key. ... Pretty much any
topic is fair game.
Then there are the quotes chosen by Rick to set the tone for this forum,
among which are:
What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is
the exact opposite. ~ Bertrand Russell
The healthy mind challenges its own assumptions. ~ The I Ching
Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I
have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
~ Buddha
Take what you need and leave the rest. ~ The Band
I mean, to invoke the spirit of Judy Stein, one would have to be REEAALLY
REEAALLY REEAALLY STOOOPID to believe that the still-fervent TMers are the
owners of this group and that the neganauts are the intruders.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
Well it's lucky for you two that you have another option, you don't need to
visit this place and lament at us fallen souls, you can go to Jim's new site
and talk about how fantastic you and your beliefs are instead of getting
depressed round here. It's only you that wants to stay here, ever ask yourself
why?
I'd say take Willytex with you but I doubt they'd have him, that sad sack of
shit will probably be sitting here moaning about nothing until doomsday. What a
waste of time for you all, visiting a website where all you do is complain
about what goes on there! I mean go figure
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
Dear RD; GoodPoint RD, the ruse of these apostates trying to come back 'to
save'people reads much more now like the harassment of a people who
areotherwise comfortable having dealt with their own moral dissonanceswithin
their own community in their own terms to their own spiritualends. Who are
these neganauts to interfere with the internal affairsof others any way? It
seems incredibly arrogant on their part tocome in here and try to methodically
disturb people's peace. Itseems now quite a hateful and shocking harassment to
use such defamatorylanguage the way they do. Having learned their own
particularhistories as they have related them on FFL through time
thensympathetically when considering these guys as sources of anything
spiritual they are quite pitiable really. It is a shame that their abuse ofthe
unguarded cultural openness of this community has allowed them totake over the
flower that was FFL with their negativity and erode off our our more seasoned
reasoned and experienced membership. -Buck in Fairfield, Iowa
raunchydog wrote :
Barry, your recent use of crude language and imagery for the sake of
pushingbuttons is just an escalation of your usual MO, which I usually
respondto by making fun of you. What I find funny is your delusion
thatinventing an offensive straw-man (offensive to any normal human being)in
order to push true believer buttons will somehow expose and perhapsliberate
them from TMO/MMY delusions. You never seem to get is how people respond to you
is about your offensive behavior,period. Apart from the fact that IMO you are
a narcissistic,self-righteous, self-aggrandizing human being, your failed
mission towake up perceived cultists from *your* cult nightmare IS NOT
WORKING.You cannot fix whatever hurts from cults you have experienced in
thepast by projecting unresolved pain onto others.
Granted, implyingthe police ought to investigate you as a child abuser is a
bridge toofar. Let's just say you brought it on yourself and leave it at that.
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[FairfieldLife] Words of Wisdom...
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kubrick The Illuminati
On 11/30/2014 03:27 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com I saw a lot of movies before anyone else did, sometimes in the editing room. We were always invited to cast/crew screenings of Bond movies. My Dad even had a letter that would get him into any cinema in the country. We saw Star Wars in 77 and walked straight past the queues to the doorman who read my dad's letter and ushered to the best seats in the house. I stood in a line stretching around the block in Seattle with a couple friends (also TM teachers) in 1977 to see Star Wars not realizing it was a film by a neighbor I knew and hung out with in 1970 when I lived in Mill Valley, California. I also saw THX 1138 when it played at my hometown drive-in. Never saw American Graffiti though. Thing is, I'm not good at remembering names and the PR for 1138 which was in a Newsweek piece didn't have a picture of George and by Star Wars he'd put on weight so I didn't recognize him. I didn't figure this all out until the early 1990s. And I'm embarrassed because a friend ran into him at a party and George remembered me by name! We used to have an Emmy award winning editor on FFL. I have to check every so once and a while to see what he's up to. When one is in the arts you just often wind up meeting famous people and if you mention it sound like a name dropper but that's just how it goes. Weirdest one was finding out that my small town school principal was the uncle of a famous Hollywood actress and I also used to play music with her brother and he never mentioned it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dear Rick
Rick has a porn site? And Willy is a porn fan? Who'd a thunk it! Go figure. On 11/30/2014 03:55 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Dear Rick - Your porn-site sucks!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dear Rick
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Rick has a porn site? And Willy is a porn fan? Who'd a thunk it! Go
figure.
I hear that Willy has *his* own porn site, and this is one of his favorite
pics: :-)
On 11/30/2014 03:55 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Dear Rick - Your porn-site sucks!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
This guy is serious. Presenting himself as truthful. Talked with the Holy Tradition guys after MMY called a meeting. He could get a following with this shit. Anyone ever meet this guy in real life?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This guy is serious. Presenting himself as truthful. Talked with the Holy Tradition guys after MMY called a meeting. He could get a following with this shit. He certainly could. He's very confident and seems clear minded. Barking mad, but his belief will convert some in the usual fashion. Anyone ever meet this guy in real life?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
Aaand, I'm just not buying it. The guy comes off as a normal channeler -- gift of gab, imaginative, and self deluded. Deluded how? Deluded that a dream is a real communication. Not that the dream can't be spot on and synchronistic.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This guy is serious. Presenting himself as truthful. Talked with the Holy Tradition guys after MMY called a meeting. He could get a following with this shit. He certainly could. He's very confident and seems clear minded. Barking mad, but his belief will convert some in the usual fashion. He probably should have read the Harry Potter books before deciding to call one of this astral holy tradition He who must not be named. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 6:31 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November This guy is serious. Presenting himself as truthful. Talked with the Holy Tradition guys after MMY called a meeting. He could get a following with this shit. But, scanning the room, only among people who are so old that they don't look as if they're going to see 2016. So as Movements go, it's not exactly gonna last very long. It's just yer classic appeal to self-importance.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This guy is serious. Presenting himself as truthful. Talked with the Holy Tradition guys after MMY called a meeting. He could get a following with this shit. He certainly could. He's very confident and seems clear minded. Barking mad, but his belief will convert some in the usual fashion. He probably should have read the Harry Potter books before deciding to call one of this astral holy tradition He who must not be named. :-) I was hoping for a laugh but I just feel sorry for the guy, it's like talking to a Jehovah's Witness and wanting to hug them and tell them it's OK to face reality and dump the fact their entire life has been a travesty of self delusion and refusing to face reality. While writing the above I just heard him rattling off names like Thoreau and Richard the Lionheart as being reincarnations of biblical prophets. Hard to know what to say really, It's just sad.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
What's odd is that there is some kind of weird Twilight Zone time distortion
thang goin' down. I read your mention of all of these guys the apostles were
supposed to be just now, *after* reading your description of him having said
it. Doo dee doo doo...
I'm going to have to go to dinner soon, so fill me in if anything interesting
happens.
Did you see Curtis, BTW? If I'm not mistaken, just before things started he
walked up and gave a CD to Jerry. I can only hope that -- given time -- Jerry
likes the CD more than he likes this guy's rap. It's really kinda lame...like
recycled Charlie Lutes.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
This guy is serious. Presenting himself as truthful. Talked with the Holy
Tradition guys after MMY called a meeting.
He could get a following with this shit.
He certainly could. He's very confident and seems clear minded. Barking mad,
but his belief will convert some in the usual fashion.
He probably should have read the Harry Potter books before deciding to call one
of this astral holy tradition He who must not be named. :-)
I was hoping for a laugh but I just feel sorry for the guy, it's like talking
to a Jehovah's Witness and wanting to hug them and tell them it's OK to face
reality and dump the fact their entire life has been a travesty of self
delusion and refusing to face reality.
While writing the above I just heard him rattling off names like Thoreau and
Richard the Lionheart as being reincarnations of biblical prophets. Hard to
know what to say really, It's just sad.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
At least this guy isn't using TM tonality like Bevvy. He's really pushing the name dropping and the you too were Great Ones. Guy is clear though. Organized, very fucking prepared, good recall. He's coming off as someone who has some wisdom and some scholarship which of course can all be pumped into his dreams. If he had been born in a non-American culture, the same type of dreams could have been saturated with the names of other traditions. Seems like he's trying to establish why the TMO's present leaders are to be seen as failures and no longer true movement leaders. to not tell stories anymore -- yet he's telling a story to all of us! Grrr. No one has ever merged with the Absolute. -- That's a big ass issue, eh?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
Sorry...got my language blurbled up there. I read your description of those
discussions at least 2-3 minutes before I actually heard them on the feed. I
guess that everyone's not getting the feed from the stream at the same time...
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
What's odd is that there is some kind of weird Twilight Zone time
distortion thang goin' down. I read your mention of all of these guys the
apostles were supposed to be just now, *after* reading your description of him
having said it. Doo dee doo doo...
I'm going to have to go to dinner soon, so fill me in if anything interesting
happens.
Did you see Curtis, BTW? If I'm not mistaken, just before things started he
walked up and gave a CD to Jerry. I can only hope that -- given time -- Jerry
likes the CD more than he likes this guy's rap. It's really kinda lame...like
recycled Charlie Lutes.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
This guy is serious. Presenting himself as truthful. Talked with the Holy
Tradition guys after MMY called a meeting.
He could get a following with this shit.
He certainly could. He's very confident and seems clear minded. Barking mad,
but his belief will convert some in the usual fashion.
He probably should have read the Harry Potter books before deciding to call one
of this astral holy tradition He who must not be named. :-)
I was hoping for a laugh but I just feel sorry for the guy, it's like talking
to a Jehovah's Witness and wanting to hug them and tell them it's OK to face
reality and dump the fact their entire life has been a travesty of self
delusion and refusing to face reality.
While writing the above I just heard him rattling off names like Thoreau and
Richard the Lionheart as being reincarnations of biblical prophets. Hard to
know what to say really, It's just sad.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
I remember Jerry telling my group to not attend other lectures because if anyone recognized you, then they'd ask themselves, Why is that guy here if he's a true-believer in TM? Looks like Jerry is okay with the loop hole he thinks he's using to rationalize this, but, geeeze, how far did Jerry have to travel -- at his age -- to see this guy's presentation? That's even more of a tell, methinks. Is Jerry about to become no fool like an old fool? My live-feed stops about every 20 seconds...so I'm missing a ton of statements.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : At least this guy isn't using TM tonality like Bevvy. He's really pushing the name dropping and the you too were Great Ones. Guy is clear though. Organized, very fucking prepared, good recall. Yes, he's a very good speaker. I was trying to imagine a pre-programmed drone like Bevan or Hagelin trying to pull this off and it really wouldn't work. This guy thinks on his feet for sure. He's coming off as someone who has some wisdom and some scholarship which of course can all be pumped into his dreams. If he had been born in a non-American culture, the same type of dreams could have been saturated with the names of other traditions. It's all very convenient that he sees Marshy as he was when he was 55, probably the last time he actually saw him. Seems like he's trying to establish why the TMO's present leaders are to be seen as failures and no longer true movement leaders. to not tell stories anymore -- yet he's telling a story to all of us! Grrr. No one has ever merged with the Absolute. -- That's a big ass issue, eh? It's lucky for his story that nobody did merge, because they wouldn't be talking to him would they! Or do I understand less about this than even I give myself no credit for?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Sorry...got my language blurbled up there. I read your description of those discussions at least 2-3 minutes before I actually heard them on the feed. I guess that everyone's not getting the feed from the stream at the same time... No, it's because Maharishi appeared to me when I was having breakfast and told me what was going to happen beforehand so I could watch the snooker. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November What's odd is that there is some kind of weird Twilight Zone time distortion thang goin' down. I read your mention of all of these guys the apostles were supposed to be just now, *after* reading your description of him having said it. Doo dee doo doo... I'm going to have to go to dinner soon, so fill me in if anything interesting happens. Did you see Curtis, BTW? If I'm not mistaken, just before things started he walked up and gave a CD to Jerry. I can only hope that -- given time -- Jerry likes the CD more than he likes this guy's rap. It's really kinda lame...like recycled Charlie Lutes. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This guy is serious. Presenting himself as truthful. Talked with the Holy Tradition guys after MMY called a meeting. He could get a following with this shit. He certainly could. He's very confident and seems clear minded. Barking mad, but his belief will convert some in the usual fashion. He probably should have read the Harry Potter books before deciding to call one of this astral holy tradition He who must not be named. :-) I was hoping for a laugh but I just feel sorry for the guy, it's like talking to a Jehovah's Witness and wanting to hug them and tell them it's OK to face reality and dump the fact their entire life has been a travesty of self delusion and refusing to face reality. While writing the above I just heard him rattling off names like Thoreau and Richard the Lionheart as being reincarnations of biblical prophets. Hard to know what to say really, It's just sad.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kubrick The Illuminati
There was some cool info posted on this thread about people's movie experiences. I agree with Richard about Clockwork Orange - a very unpleasant film - but seeing it did make me read the original book which is a deserved modern classic. Lolita isn't pornographic though - it's black comedy with fantastic performances from all the cast. Re the negative opinions of Eyes Wide Shut, I wonder if many viewers missed the point that it was based on Arthur Schnitzler's Dream Story (1926) - ie, it's a *dream* story (and so influenced by fellow Viennese author Sigmund Freud's ideas). For example, some people have sneered at the orgy scene as it is not remotely like the sex parties of modern, hip, super-rich Yanks. Well, I wouldn't know what happens at such events(!) but as the orgy is a nightmare vision it can take off in any direction it likes if it suits Kubrick's narrative. The same can be said of some of the other elements criticised. The young girl in the movie who is being pimped by her father who owns the fancy-dress store could be a nod to Kubrick's own anger that his daughter had joined the Scientologists and become brainwashed by them. It's odd that Kubrick would feel happy about working with Cruise given Kubrick's falling out with his daughter over her involvement with the cult but maybe Cruise's inclusion made the link between the sinister group in EWS and Scientology clearer.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
He's a lawyer. Explains a lot -- Jerry's interest for instance. Because he's smart, his assertion of honesty is quite acceptable. That's the rub: if you're a true-believer in your own experiences -- you bring all your intellect etc. into the promotions about your experienceseven if you were deluded. Personally, I've woken up from dreams in various states of belief -- I hated this one woman in real life for what she'd done to me in a dream -- took three days to get clear about that.see? No one can talk anyone out of what they think is true.we're all such brutes.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Sacking of FFL
Barry plays by Ricks's rules. Mario Goes Berserk http://youtu.be/QgACcUDttQ0 http://youtu.be/QgACcUDttQ0 Mario Goes Berserk http://youtu.be/QgACcUDttQ0 See more http://www.dorkly.com Mario's done playing Mr. Nice Plumber. Geek out with us... FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/dorkly TWI... View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/QgACcUDttQ0 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : He's a lawyer. Explains a lot -- Jerry's interest for instance. Because he's smart, his assertion of honesty is quite acceptable. That's the rub: if you're a true-believer in your own experiences -- you bring all your intellect etc. into the promotions about your experienceseven if you were deluded. Personally, I've woken up from dreams in various states of belief -- I hated this one woman in real life for what she'd done to me in a dream -- took three days to get clear about that.see? No one can talk anyone out of what they think is true.we're all such brutes. I fell asleep for a bit and he seems to have gone off on a tangent, talking about all his previous incarnations. I've lost it and shall have to read the transcript later... ... ah the message: Don't worry about spoiling the purity of the teaching because you can't. You don't have the power. And then the connection went. Bit of divine intervention maybe...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/30/2014 9:44 AM, Share Long wrote: dear Richard, I'll really miss you. Thank you for all the laughter and knowledge and good you've brought into my life. all the best always to you and Rita and your whole family, Share /Thanks. Maybe you should consider subscribing to The Peak./ *From:* 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 11:16 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, I tried this last night but didn't notice anything different. Maybe cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it? And I forgot to do it this morning. Nonetheless, will soldier on, thanks again for posting. /The technique may not work for just anyone. Apparently MMY dropped using this technique himself for some reason, but I found it quite enjoyable. People usually think thoughts just before going to sleep but quite often they are just random thinking without any direction. Until I was taught the Night Technique by Satyanand, I used another technique that I developed myself - you simply think of something positive to look forward to the next day and then slip into sleep. It works too, but not as well. There is something about the directed sound vibration than is a subtle relaxing feeling with the bija mantra - Laya Yoga while you sleep./ *From:* 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com mailto:pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote: So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others have a more dominant will? /The trick is to practice a Laya Yoga technique we learned from Satyanand: // // //When you are ready for sleep you just sit up in bed and then let your bija mantra rest at the heart chakra for a few minutes. That way, the subtle currents from your Istadevata will permeate your entire being while you sleep. For example, my Istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, so by resting the bija portion of her mantra at the heart chakra, my intelligence will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping. Then, when you awaken in the morning you will feel refreshed and full of energy and knowledge. It's that simple!/ Anyone had a similar experience? /Yes. A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper is aware that he or she is dreaming. From what I've read, the phenomenon of lucid dreaming has been well established by scientific research, so its existence is well established. /
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Sacking of FFL
On 11/30/2014 10:56 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Well it's lucky for you two that you have another option, you don't need to visit this place and lament at us fallen souls, you can go to Jim's new site and talk about how fantastic you and your beliefs are instead of getting depressed round here. It's only you that wants to stay here, ever ask yourself why? I'd say take Willytex with you but I doubt they'd have him, that sad sack of shit will probably be sitting here moaning about nothing until doomsday. What a waste of time for you all, visiting a website where all you do is complain about what goes on there! I mean go figure /Sounds like someone has been lurking on //The Peak.//So, you don't want to talk about Rotherham. Go figure./ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Dear RD; Good Point RD, the ruse of these apostates trying to come back 'to save' people reads much more now like the harassment of a people who are otherwise comfortable having dealt with their own moral dissonances within their own community in their own terms to their own spiritual ends. Who are these neganauts to interfere with the internal affairs of others any way? It seems incredibly arrogant on their part to come in here and try to methodically disturb people's peace. It seems now quite a hateful and shocking harassment to use such defamatory language the way they do. Having learned their own particular histories as they have related them on FFL through time then sympathetically when considering these guys as sources of anything spiritual they are quite pitiable really. It is a shame that their abuse of the unguarded cultural openness of this community has allowed them to take over the flower that was FFL with their negativity and erode off our our more seasoned reasoned and experienced membership. -Buck in Fairfield, Iowa raunchydog wrote : Barry, your recent use of crude language and imagery for the sake of pushing buttons is just an escalation of your usual MO, which I usually respond to by making fun of you. What I find funny is your delusion that inventing an offensive straw-man (offensive to any normal human being) in order to push true believer buttons will somehow expose and perhaps liberate them from TMO/MMY delusions. You never seem to get is how people respond to you is about your offensive behavior, period. Apart from the fact that IMO you are a narcissistic, self-righteous, self-aggrandizing human being, your failed mission to wake up perceived cultists from *your* cult nightmare IS NOT WORKING. You cannot fix whatever hurts from cults you have experienced in the past by projecting unresolved pain onto others. Granted, implying the police ought to investigate you as a child abuser is a bridge too far. Let's just say you brought it on yourself and leave it at that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barry's hate and laughing his arse off at all of you.
On 11/30/2014 11:01 AM, Bhairitu wrote: Uh Buck, given Empty's political persuasion, he probably looks upon the Southern Poverty Law Center as a commie outfit. /Uh Barry2, given your latest political contributions to FFL, everyone probably looks upon you as a commie./ /Question: Why don't you just move to Cuba?/ On 11/29/2014 08:57 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Emptyb, it does seems like a calculated hate crime kind of harassment of a group of people according to what he is saying. So Emptyb in our now knowing this about Dutch law and the American citizen then as the original perp was he just trolling with bluff with all this about his butt-on-pushing comment about babies or was he being salacious? There is a FFL rap-record here of salacious trolling using titillation and this is not the first time said writer has been called on it. Seems though in its calculated method as it is reported by the perp it would likely be under hate crime. The better place to report this possibly is with Attorneys Generals likely in the home State for Yahoo Corporation and also the Southern Poverty Law Center to add to their hate crimes watch list to monitor. Jai Guru Dev,-Buck Southern Poverty Law Center http://www.splcenter.org/?gclid=CNq__o2_ocICFY4-MgodSDMAOQ image http://www.splcenter.org/?gclid=CNq__o2_ocICFY4-MgodSDMAOQ Southern Poverty Law Center http://www.splcenter.org/?gclid=CNq__o2_ocICFY4-MgodSDMAOQ The Southern Poverty Law Center was founded in 1971 as a small civil rights law firm. Today, the Center is internationally known for its tolerance education prog... View on www.splcenter.org http://www.splcenter.org/?gclid=CNq__o2_ocICFY4-MgodSDMAOQ Preview by Yahoo emptybill writes : Barry, the American citizen, is claiming that he's going to the Dutch police to file Dutch charges against someone on an American internet forum for saying something he believes harms his reputation. This is hilarious and this is why Barry has played you all for gullible fools. To file charges you must convince a prosecutor: 1. that a crime was committed 2. that the criminal act was a relevant infraction of published Dutch law 3. that the act occurred in Dutch territory 4. that the person/place that is harmed is covered by Dutch law. 5. that any legal claims asserted by claimants have standing before the relevant court of law. Dutch law doesn't matter in Amerika. Barry doesn't matter in Amerika. FFL is none of the above. The hammer cracks. The case is closed. Read it weep at your gullibility. Read it and laugh at the absurdity. FFL is not the final archipelago of 18th Century European legal hegemony.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
The fascinating thing from my point of view (back from dinner now) is that this guy's *entire* act is about fear of death. HIS fear of death. To avoid dealing with the concept of death, he's invented being able to talk with his dead sister and parents, with dead Maharishi, with dead Jesus and with a bunch of supposed dead hoo-hahs who tell him how important he was in previous lives. In a way it's a pity that Jimbo threw a tantrum and stalked off in a snit...again, because I just can't wait for him to play one-upsmanship games with this guy, claiming to have been more important in all of these supposedly shared incarnations that he claims to have been. :-) :-) :-) I look forward to Curtis' take on this whole thing, especially because he'll probably be able to comment on 1) the general vibe in the room, 2) what went down during the QA (which as I understand it won't be broadcast on the stream), and 3) what went down in the room and outside the hall as people chatted each other up after this event.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : He's a lawyer. Explains a lot -- Jerry's interest for instance. Because he's smart, his assertion of honesty is quite acceptable. That's the rub: if you're a true-believer in your own experiences -- you bring all your intellect etc. into the promotions about your experienceseven if you were deluded. Personally, I've woken up from dreams in various states of belief -- I hated this one woman in real life for what she'd done to me in a dream -- took three days to get clear about that.see? No one can talk anyone out of what they think is true.we're all such brutes. I fell asleep for a bit and he seems to have gone off on a tangent, talking about all his previous incarnations. I've lost it and shall have to read the transcript later... ... ah the message: Don't worry about spoiling the purity of the teaching because you can't. You don't have the power. And then the connection went. Bit of divine intervention maybe... Shame it came back, the guy is dropping names like you wouldn't believe, Jesus, Guru Dev. This guy is in touch with them all. He must be a big deal in the spiritual world to deserve such company. But his talk is so boring now and so unmemorable I forget how each sentence started before it ends. Luckily there's something good on TV so I don't have to listen to the worlds greatest spiritual teachers any more...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : The fascinating thing from my point of view (back from dinner now) is that this guy's *entire* act is about fear of death. HIS fear of death. To avoid dealing with the concept of death, he's invented being able to talk with his dead sister and parents, with dead Maharishi, with dead Jesus and with a bunch of supposed dead hoo-hahs who tell him how important he was in previous lives. He's so boring. I reckon he'll get smited by all these Gods for speaking such tedious drivel on their behalf. Preaching to Muslims really will get him smited, if any of them were listening that is. In a way it's a pity that Jimbo threw a tantrum and stalked off in a snit...again, because I just can't wait for him to play one-upsmanship games with this guy, claiming to have been more important in all of these supposedly shared incarnations that he claims to have been. :-) :-) :-) I look forward to Curtis' take on this whole thing, especially because he'll probably be able to comment on 1) the general vibe in the room, 2) what went down during the QA (which as I understand it won't be broadcast on the stream), and 3) what went down in the room and outside the hall as people chatted each other up after this event. Maybe he'll be a convert and come back with a message from Jehovah just for FFLers: Willytex is the chosen one...heed his words, no matter how banal, predictable and tedious
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
NOTES FROM MAHARISHI: Fear is ignorance. Self can't be hurt. Listen to MMY about transcending. Don't die in fear or upset about what TM teachers have done. Don't worry about purity of the teaching. (Jerry told us that the movement was suffering because of lack of purity in the lives of the initiators.) If they'd put a picture on the wall by mistake -- (heh, my painting of MMY as a spiral was kick out of the MUM library.) Take away the rules to stop people in power. TM, as good as it is, is effective because of harnessing natural tendency, but it's not crucial. If mind if filled with light, YOU'RE OKAY. No particular state of mind to target. (Well that's new.) Better to have an adulterated teaching that has no fear than have a pure teaching ruined by fear. TM is turning within. Teach TM according to the TMO's rules. Next 20 years important -- all TM teachers should chuck the fear and teach however they want to. 300 years from now this video can be played. (I signed up for 5 - 8 years.) Do what MMY told you to do, but not if it's not in your heart to engage an impossible task. Shankara says enthusiastic about new approach. Shankara opened up MMY's mind to memories. Had debate with Vyasa and didn't win. A debate draw because he was Vyasa too.Shankara was AFRAID to say; he'd been Vyasa. He's going to incarnate again to push math and science100 years. All the past heroes will re-incarnate. End the Shankaracharya system. Simplify or eliminate ritual. Guru Dev is jiggy with above, but still can do puja, but not necessary. No more gurus -- just friends. Jesus says: I'm not omniscient. How you feel about Me doesn't matter. Prayer is like gambling, the house always win. No more parking place prayers will be answered. Look for an hour before you pray for a lost object. Heaven is not a place of forgiveness. No perfect knowledge, no judgement. Heaven is a vacation. I'm not mad at you guys. Jehovah says. I'm also Allah. Jews were my original chosen people. I've made them the most productive people on the planet. New deal for everyone -- you'll know Me. I am who am, but you are who you are. We're equals: the new covenant with my people. Israel is your land, but it is not as valuable as your principles. Human sacrifice must end. Jerusalem is not sacred, the people are, not the land. As Allah, I confirm I am also Jehovah. Proud of Arabic improvements. Mohammed is My last prophet. Very proud of Islamics, but suggests: know that He doesn't care about versions of Islam. Think about restoring the Islamic Golden Age. Treatment of women shouldn't go backwards. In Heaven the groups are kept separatebut only to let you calm down. And when women are respected, then you'll be proud of your Islamic culture. And then Heaven won't have separate groups for Muslims. To Mormons: a good culture. Jesus: 80% of misery self-inflicted. Purity of Elisabeth Smart is not a problem -- should feel you've been sullied despite years of rape in captivity.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
On 11/30/2014 10:15 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : At least this guy isn't using TM tonality like Bevvy. He's really pushing the name dropping and the you too were Great Ones. Guy is clear though. Organized, very fucking prepared, good recall. Yes, he's a very good speaker. I was trying to imagine a pre-programmed drone like Bevan or Hagelin trying to pull this off and it really wouldn't work. This guy thinks on his feet for sure. He's coming off as someone who has some wisdom and some scholarship which of course can all be pumped into his dreams. If he had been born in a non-American culture, the same type of dreams could have been saturated with the names of other traditions. It's all very convenient that he sees Marshy as he was when he was 55, probably the last time he actually saw him. Seems like he's trying to establish why the TMO's present leaders are to be seen as failures and no longer true movement leaders. to not tell stories anymore -- yet he's telling a story to all of us! Grrr. No one has ever merged with the Absolute. -- That's a big ass issue, eh? It's lucky for his story that nobody did merge, because they wouldn't be talking to him would they! Everyone is merged with the absolute, the process of enlightenment is realizing it. The absolute is all that is and everything else is just an illusion.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
So, I'm impressed. The guy has his shtick down pat. I can't see the TMO patting him on the back for saying Maharishi said the TMO is sorta okay. Hey! Looks like we can all put out a shingle now and teach!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
I chose to take my daughter and her mom to see Mockingjay, Part 1 and lunch
afterwards - just got home so I am watching the tail end - I agree with Sal, it
is sad to watch someone articulate and educated believing such drivel. And I
agree that this looks like the beginning of a new and short lived movement of
old and gullible folks. Jarvis has got to be mighty off the wall to endorse
this stuff - maybe he's just doing it to irritate the regular Movement leaders
like Bevan who eclipsed him long ago.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
The fascinating thing from my point of view (back from dinner now) is that this
guy's *entire* act is about fear of death. HIS fear of death.
To avoid dealing with the concept of death, he's invented being able to talk
with his dead sister and parents, with dead Maharishi, with dead Jesus and with
a bunch of supposed dead hoo-hahs who tell him how important he was in previous
lives.
He's so boring. I reckon he'll get smited by all these Gods for speaking such
tedious drivel on their behalf. Preaching to Muslims really will get him
smited, if any of them were listening that is.
In a way it's a pity that Jimbo threw a tantrum and stalked off in a
snit...again, because I just can't wait for him to play one-upsmanship games
with this guy, claiming to have been more important in all of these supposedly
shared incarnations that he claims to have been. :-) :-) :-)
I look forward to Curtis' take on this whole thing, especially because he'll
probably be able to comment on 1) the general vibe in the room, 2) what went
down during the QA (which as I understand it won't be broadcast on the
stream), and 3) what went down in the room and outside the hall as people
chatted each other up after this event.
Maybe he'll be a convert and come back with a message from Jehovah just for
FFLers: Willytex is the chosen one...heed his words, no matter how banal,
predictable and tedious
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : So, I'm impressed. The guy has his shtick down pat. I'm impressed that you paid attention to the end. I couldn't wait for it to be over simply because of the way his voice droned and with those portentous pauses at the end. I guess the all-Father wants a bit of dignity given to his words but that's probably not the effect he was after I suspect. The gods will be disappointed in their choice of messenger I think. And there was nothing for the scientologists either... To have done that without an autocue is the most impressive thing about him. but it was funny watching him dance round the controversy over Palestine, it didn't work and if Jehovah hasn't got the answer then no one has! I do hope for his sake that the Arabs don't hear his call from Mohamed to give women equal rights and bring democracy to the Middle East. That's the sort of thing that gets heads chopped off out there... I can't see the TMO patting him on the back for saying Maharishi said the TMO is sorta okay. I always thought that Marshy must be pissed off that he had such poor cloth to cut his movement from, but he trained them so it must be him they reflect. Maybe a lament along those lines would shake them up a bit more. Just for a laugh like.. Hey! Looks like we can all put out a shingle now and teach! Go for it. I hope Curtis had some good questions like, when does the Maharishi Effect start working?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Everyone is merged with the absolute, the process of enlightenment is realizing it. The absolute is all that is and everything else is just an illusion. This is where I go wrong. I'm utterly convinced it's the other way round!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
You mean everything is real and the absolute is imaginary?
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
Everyone is merged with the absolute, the process of enlightenmentis
realizing it. The absolute is all that is and everything elseis just an
illusion.
This is where I go wrong. I'm utterly convinced it's the other way round!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You mean everything is real and the absolute is imaginary? Yup, I'm as much a philosophical realist as you can be in a post-Newtonian, quantum world. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Everyone is merged with the absolute, the process of enlightenment is realizing it. The absolute is all that is and everything else is just an illusion. This is where I go wrong. I'm utterly convinced it's the other way round!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
I am going back and looking at this from the beginning - what a bunch of crap.
I think this guy is using the I talked to Marshy deal as a platform to
attract an audience to get 'em to listen to his off the wall beliefs. Just
another (sincere) huckster following in Marshy's footsteps who was himself as
one of the most successful hucksters in the 20th century.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
Everyone is merged with the absolute, the process of enlightenmentis
realizing it. The absolute is all that is and everything elseis just an
illusion.
This is where I go wrong. I'm utterly convinced it's the other way round!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Sacking of FFL
It's a matter of the tone in which the discussion takes place, something that I doubt, given your history, that you would understand. Discussion is one thing, but an entire stream of abusive posts using the kind of language that seems to come naturally to you is quite another. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : It's *not*, after all, as if the description of this forum gives the impression that it's a forum for TM blissninnies to come and discuss their fantasies without being bothered by negativity -- We often discuss the trials and tribulations of the TM Movement, which may not interest some, but that's why God created the delete key. ... Pretty much any topic is fair game. Then there are the quotes chosen by Rick to set the tone for this forum, among which are: What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is the exact opposite. ~ Bertrand Russell The healthy mind challenges its own assumptions. ~ The I Ching Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. ~ Buddha Take what you need and leave the rest. ~ The Band I mean, to invoke the spirit of Judy Stein, one would have to be REEAALLY REEAALLY REEAALLY STOOOPID to believe that the still-fervent TMers are the owners of this group and that the neganauts are the intruders. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Well it's lucky for you two that you have another option, you don't need to visit this place and lament at us fallen souls, you can go to Jim's new site and talk about how fantastic you and your beliefs are instead of getting depressed round here. It's only you that wants to stay here, ever ask yourself why? I'd say take Willytex with you but I doubt they'd have him, that sad sack of shit will probably be sitting here moaning about nothing until doomsday. What a waste of time for you all, visiting a website where all you do is complain about what goes on there! I mean go figure ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Dear RD; Good Point RD, the ruse of these apostates trying to come back 'to save' people reads much more now like the harassment of a people who are otherwise comfortable having dealt with their own moral dissonances within their own community in their own terms to their own spiritual ends. Who are these neganauts to interfere with the internal affairs of others any way? It seems incredibly arrogant on their part to come in here and try to methodically disturb people's peace. It seems now quite a hateful and shocking harassment to use such defamatory language the way they do. Having learned their own particular histories as they have related them on FFL through time then sympathetically when considering these guys as sources of anything spiritual they are quite pitiable really. It is a shame that their abuse of the unguarded cultural openness of this community has allowed them to take over the flower that was FFL with their negativity and erode off our our more seasoned reasoned and experienced membership. -Buck in Fairfield, Iowa raunchydog wrote : Barry, your recent use of crude language and imagery for the sake of pushing buttons is just an escalation of your usual MO, which I usually respond to by making fun of you. What I find funny is your delusion that inventing an offensive straw-man (offensive to any normal human being) in order to push true believer buttons will somehow expose and perhaps liberate them from TMO/MMY delusions. You never seem to get is how people respond to you is about your offensive behavior, period. Apart from the fact that IMO you are a narcissistic, self-righteous, self-aggrandizing human being, your failed mission to wake up perceived cultists from *your* cult nightmare IS NOT WORKING. You cannot fix whatever hurts from cults you have experienced in the past by projecting unresolved pain onto others. Granted, implying the police ought to investigate you as a child abuser is a bridge too far. Let's just say you brought it on yourself and leave it at that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
So where do the esoteric experiences you have described from meditation come
from if not from the Absolute?
In addition I am watching Hammond talk about seeing Marshy - this guy was
hallucinating and that's about it.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
You mean everything is real and the absolute is imaginary?
Yup, I'm as much a philosophical realist as you can be in a post-Newtonian,
quantum world.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
Everyone is merged with the absolute, the process of enlightenmentis
realizing it. The absolute is all that is and everything elseis just an
illusion.
This is where I go wrong. I'm utterly convinced it's the other way round!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I am going back and looking at this from the beginning - what a bunch of crap. I think this guy is using the I talked to Marshy deal as a platform to attract an audience to get 'em to listen to his off the wall beliefs. Just another (sincere) huckster following in Marshy's footsteps who was himself as one of the most successful hucksters in the 20th century. What if it was true and all these Gods did exist and had meetings together, would they actually accept Maharishi as one of their great representatives among mankind? To answer yes is to elevate him to the same historical standing as the others. I'm pretty sure that isn't going to happen worldwide, but that doesn't mean he didn't do a lot in teaching meditation and popularising spiritual seeking - at least at first . My worry is all the obvious profit making through selling of prayers and bullshit cult philosophy that the TMO does, I can't see Jehovah getting off on that. Or maybe he'd be pissed off that he didn't think of it first? It is nice that the gods all get along with each other though. There's an old atheist saw that says You only believe in one of the thousands of gods, I just believe in one less than you Now we know that we can believe in all of them! The idea that they are all faces of the same thing must be wrong, and I always thought that was a good idea of Marshy's - very inclusive - I see that Hammond forgot that part of his teaching. Surprised he wasn't reminded by the man himself! But I can't help thinking they'd all be more at odds with each other.The eastern and western religions really were different, the old testament god was a total wanker, vindictive and merciless. And the eastern ones were all fundamentalist, caste based anti-feminist fatalists. When did it all change, how come they are like a big new age happy family? They'd be smiting each other as badly as they used to do us. I'm starting to smell a rat If only he'd given the Scientologists a message from Xenu. Then we'd know he was in touch with the Great Ones and not just stringing us a line from a daydream he had. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Everyone is merged with the absolute, the process of enlightenment is realizing it. The absolute is all that is and everything else is just an illusion. This is where I go wrong. I'm utterly convinced it's the other way round!
[FairfieldLife] Angry Birds, was FFL Reincarnating as a Bi-location..
On 11/30/2014 11:04 AM, dhamiltony wrote: Yes sadly, FFL at Yahoo-groups in a fragmentation it seems now is Mostly Left to Angry People. /It may have been by design, Buck. Rick Archer may have actually intended this forum to be a place for people to take out their anger against MMY and the TMO - for various personal reasons. I say that because strictly speaking, posting about the TM technique outside the teaching environment is, by definition, being off the program. / //It looks to me like there are no TM Teachers, in good standing, that dialog here. Correct me if I'm mistaken about this. /Although I don't percieve Rick as being resentful or angry about his experience in the TMO, I also take note that Rick isn't very interested in discussing anything or even moderating, which would indicate to me that he has pretty much given it over to the angry and rejected factions. Nobody can blame Rick - who would want to start a dialog here when everyone knows it is populated with informants to Interpol. Go figure. /
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : So where do the esoteric experiences you have described from meditation come from if not from the Absolute? From my head. My head creates my experience of the world outside and meditation changes how the different parts of the brain communicates so that my subjective world alters too. I think. It's either that or some mystical thing that is beyond our understanding. So I stick with materialism until proved otherwise because we know our brains are running the show and we've no reason to suspect there is need of any other forces to create consciousness. While it remains poorly understood there will always be wiggle room for people to sneak in ideas that make it seem more than it is. In addition I am watching Hammond talk about seeing Marshy - this guy was hallucinating and that's about it. I felt a bit sorry for him after a while. But he lives in an exciting world, I never get to speak with God How was the Mockingjay movie? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You mean everything is real and the absolute is imaginary? Yup, I'm as much a philosophical realist as you can be in a post-Newtonian, quantum world. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Everyone is merged with the absolute, the process of enlightenment is realizing it. The absolute is all that is and everything else is just an illusion. This is where I go wrong. I'm utterly convinced it's the other way round!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Sacking of FFL
On 11/30/2014 11:07 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: /*I mean, to invoke the spirit of Judy Stein, one would have to be REEAALLY REEAALLY REEAALLY STOOOPID to believe that the still-fervent TMers are the owners of this group and that the neganauts are the intruders. */ To invoke the spirit of J. Edgar - /one would have to //be //really stupid not to realize that Barry Wright is a FINK and an informant working for the Dutch police and Interpol. /That's all anyone needs to know - as long as /Uncle Tantra/ is lurking here and reporting back to his minders.
[FairfieldLife] War On Women Porn, was Words of Wisdom...
On 11/30/2014 11:08 AM, salyavin808 wrote: /So, Salya, you don't want to talk about Rotherham./
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
On 11/30/2014 12:19 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Everyone is merged with the absolute, the process of enlightenment is realizing it. The absolute is all that is and everything else is just an illusion. This is where I go wrong. I'm utterly convinced it's the other way round! Yup, everything else is the relative. It's the basic teaching of SCI, Indian philosophy and even Zoroaster. I've told the story many times here of the emcee at the Katakali Dance Theater in Cochin explaining this and saying that it was so incomprehensible to simple people that the ancients made up the gods as metaphors to explain it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kubrick The Illuminati
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re the negative opinions of Eyes Wide Shut, I wonder if many viewers missed the point that it was based on Arthur Schnitzler's Dream Story (1926) - ie, it's a *dream* story (and so influenced by fellow Viennese author Sigmund Freud's ideas). For example, some people have sneered at the orgy scene as it is not remotely like the sex parties of modern, hip, super-rich Yanks. Well, I wouldn't know what happens at such events(!) but as the orgy is a nightmare vision it can take off in any direction it likes if it suits Kubrick's narrative. The same can be said of some of the other elements criticised. I didn't mind the orgy scene -typically well filmed - and knew it was based on an old book. I thought that the fact it was written so long ago accounted for the cultural mismatch between what I'd say if the missus admitted fancying some else and the character in the film. That's what I meant really, just that the stimulus didn't justify the response. The young girl in the movie who is being pimped by her father who owns the fancy-dress store could be a nod to Kubrick's own anger that his daughter had joined the Scientologists and become brainwashed by them. It's odd that Kubrick would feel happy about working with Cruise given Kubrick's falling out with his daughter over her involvement with the cult but maybe Cruise's inclusion made the link between the sinister group in EWS and Scientology clearer. Wow, I didn't know that about Kubricks daughter! I shall read up on it. Jon Ronson might have missed something interesting in his article.
[FairfieldLife] Re: War On Women Porn, was Words of Wisdom...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/30/2014 11:08 AM, salyavin808 wrote: So, Salya, you don't want to talk about Rotherham. Can't you read?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dear Rick
On 11/30/2014 11:17 AM, Bhairitu wrote: Rick has a porn site? FFL Guidelines:// / 8) Posting of adult material, either text or photos, or links to such materials, is prohibited. Violation of this guideline may result in expulsion from the group. / And Willy is a porn fan? Who'd a thunk it! Go figure. You're the guy that claimed to be a /Tantric Acharya/, Barry2 - that's all anyone needs to know./ / On 11/30/2014 03:55 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Dear Rick - Your porn-site sucks!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dear Rick
On 11/30/2014 11:25 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: ** */I hear that Willy has *his* own porn site, and this is one of his favorite pics: :-)/* If Rick has any integrity, Barry Wright will be banned from posting to FFL for posting porn as text AND linked images. Rick? Prairie Dog Porn: https://www.flickr.com/photos/sara_gennusa/3539025704/ **/Posting of adult material, either text or photos, or links to such materials, is prohibited. Violation of this guideline may result in expulsion from the group./ - Rick Archer /**/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: War On Women Porn, was Words of Wisdom...
/So, Salya, you don't want to talk about Rotherham./ / /On 11/30/2014 3:23 PM, salyavin808 wrote: / / Can't you read? So, you don't want to talk about Rotherham, and you apparently don't like women, but you do like posting porn - that's all we need to know. If the moderator has any integrity, you will be banned from posting to FFL.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Sacking of FFL
On 11/30/2014 2:42 PM, feste37 wrote: It's a matter of the tone in which the discussion takes place, something that I doubt, given your history, that you would understand. Discussion is one thing, but an entire stream of abusive posts using the kind of language that seems to come naturally to you is quite another. /There is a reason he used to call himself Uncle Tantra. It's not complicated./ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : */It's *not*, after all, as if the description of this forum gives the impression that it's a forum for TM blissninnies to come and discuss their fantasies without being bothered by negativity --/ * *We often discuss the trials and tribulations of the TM Movement, which may not interest some, but that's why God created the delete key. ... Pretty much any topic is fair game.* * * /*Then there are the quotes chosen by Rick to set the tone for this forum, among which are:*/ * * */What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is the exact opposite. / ~ Bertrand Russell* * * */The healthy mind challenges its own assumptions. / ~ The I Ching* * * */Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense./ ~ Buddha /Take what you need and leave the rest./ ~ The Band* * * /*I mean, to invoke the spirit of Judy Stein, one would have to be REEAALLY REEAALLY REEAALLY STOOOPID to believe that the still-fervent TMers are the owners of this group and that the neganauts are the intruders. */ *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Well it's lucky for you two that you have another option, you don't need to visit this place and lament at us fallen souls, you can go to Jim's new site and talk about how fantastic you and your beliefs are instead of getting depressed round here. It's only you that wants to stay here, ever ask yourself why? I'd say take Willytex with you but I doubt they'd have him, that sad sack of shit will probably be sitting here moaning about nothing until doomsday. What a waste of time for you all, visiting a website where all you do is complain about what goes on there! I mean go figure ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Dear RD; Good Point RD, the ruse of these apostates trying to come back 'to save' people reads much more now like the harassment of a people who are otherwise comfortable having dealt with their own moral dissonances within their own community in their own terms to their own spiritual ends. Who are these neganauts to interfere with the internal affairs of others any way? It seems incredibly arrogant on their part to come in here and try to methodically disturb people's peace. It seems now quite a hateful and shocking harassment to use such defamatory language the way they do. Having learned their own particular histories as they have related them on FFL through time then sympathetically when considering these guys as sources of anything spiritual they are quite pitiable really. It is a shame that their abuse of the unguarded cultural openness of this community has allowed them to take over the flower that was FFL with their negativity and erode off our our more seasoned reasoned and experienced membership. -Buck in Fairfield, Iowa raunchydog wrote : Barry, your recent use of crude language and imagery for the sake of pushing buttons is just an escalation of your usual MO, which I usually respond to by making fun of you. What I find funny is your delusion that inventing an offensive straw-man (offensive to any normal human being) in order to push true believer buttons will somehow expose and perhaps liberate them from TMO/MMY delusions. You never seem to get is how people respond to you is about your offensive behavior, period. Apart from the fact that IMO you are a narcissistic, self-righteous, self-aggrandizing human being, your failed mission to wake up perceived cultists from *your* cult nightmare IS NOT WORKING. You cannot fix whatever hurts from cults you have experienced in the past by projecting unresolved pain onto others. Granted, implying the police ought to investigate you as a child abuser is a bridge too far. Let's just say you brought it on yourself and leave it at that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dear Rick
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/30/2014 11:25 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: I hear that Willy has *his* own porn site, and this is one of his favorite pics: :-) If Rick has any integrity, Barry Wright will be banned from posting to FFL for posting porn as text AND linked images. Rick? Wow, now you're the only troll here you really stand out Willy. And the sight aint pretty. I'll ask you again, what do you get out of this endless childish behaviour? are you bored at home? No friends to talk to? Your existence here is pointless, unless you are here just to piss people off but what would anyone get out of behaving like that? Do you think you are funny or clever or something? You really stick out now. Apparently Jim has a new group where you aren't allowed to be nasty, don't know what they are talking about now they don't have us to complain about all day every day, but maybe if you asked nicely they'd let you join in. Maybe you'd learn how to communicate like a normal human being. You CAN teach an old dog new tricks!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kubrick The Illuminati
On 11/30/2014 3:22 PM, salyavin808 wrote: I didn't mind the orgy scene - typically well filmed - and knew it was based on an old book. So, you liked the orgy scene, Salya.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
On 11/30/2014 11:31 AM, Duveyoung wrote: This guy is serious. /No this is hilarious - the misfits that got kicked out of the TMO are the only ones on FFL that are watching the live stream./ Presenting himself as truthful. Talked with the Holy Tradition guys after MMY called a meeting. He could get a following with this shit. Anyone ever meet this guy in real life?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
On 11/30/2014 11:43 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */He probably should have read the Harry Potter books before deciding to call one of this astral holy tradition He who must not be named. :-)/* /It looks like the pirate, Barry Wright, is staying up late watching the live stream. LoL!/
[FairfieldLife] Buddhism in the People's Republic of China
If you click forty minutes into the broadcast (that is almost precisely when to start the clip) there is a seven minute presentation on the growth of Buddhism in the People's Republic of China that is going on with the state's full support. The segment speaks about how the one child policy is leading to a generation of spoiled children. China hopes that Buddhism will teach the public about compassion to counter the spoiled attitude. Also, China is experiencing a tremendous amount of pollution and the country hopes it will teach people about responsible action to curb pollution. The commentator of the piece said that the closeness of Buddhism and China is only likely to increase because the state sees Buddhism as teaching the country valuable lessons. Again click on the trail of the newscast 40 minutes into the segment to see the entire seven minute segment. PBS NewsHour full episode Nov. 28, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uri7phafYp4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uri7phafYp4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uri7phafYp4 PBS NewsHour full episode Nov. 28, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uri7phafYp4 View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dear Rick
If Rick has any integrity, Barry Wright will be banned from posting to FFL for posting porn as text AND linked images. Rick? On 11/30/2014 3:50 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Wow, now you're the only troll here you really stand out Willy. And the sight aint pretty. Let me re-phrase my statement: /If Salya808 persists in posting porn to the group he should be banned, if Rick has any integrity./ The posting of porn to FFL /as text, images or links/ is against the FFL Guidelines, according to Rick. Just for the record, I vote that salyavin808 be banned from posting porn to FFL. I'll ask you again, what do you get out of this endless childish behaviour? are you bored at home? No friends to talk to? Your existence here is pointless, unless you are here just to piss people off but what would anyone get out of behaving like that? Do you think you are funny or clever or something? Non sequitur. You really stick out now. Apparently Jim has a new group where you aren't allowed to be nasty, don't know what they are talking about now they don't have us to complain about all day every day, but maybe if you asked nicely they'd let you join in. Maybe you'd learn how to communicate like a normal human being. You CAN teach an old dog new tricks! Non sequitur. Let me be clear: /DO NOT POST ANY MORE PORN TO FFL/. Is that clear, Salya?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
On 11/30/2014 1:20 PM, TurquoiseBee wrote: */The fascinating thing from my point of view (back from dinner now) is that this guy's *entire* act is about fear of death. HIS fear of death. /* /* */Just cut the bullshit, Barry, and tell us why you called yourself /Uncle Tantra./ Why can't you just be honest?/* */ */To avoid dealing with the concept of death, he's invented being able to talk with his dead sister and parents, with dead Maharishi, with dead Jesus and with a bunch of supposed dead hoo-hahs who tell him how important he was in previous lives./* */ /* */In a way it's a pity that Jimbo threw a tantrum and stalked off in a snit...again, because I just can't wait for him to play one-upsmanship games with this guy, claiming to have been more important in all of these supposedly shared incarnations that he claims to have been. :-) :-) :-)/* */ /* */I look forward to Curtis' take on this whole thing, especially because he'll probably be able to comment on 1) the general vibe in the room, 2) what went down during the QA (which as I understand it won't be broadcast on the stream), and 3) what went down in the room and outside the hall as people chatted each other up after this event./*
Re: [FairfieldLife] Buddhism in the People's Republic of China
On 11/30/2014 4:07 PM, 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: /Thanks for posting the clip, Rick, but Buddhism advocates celibacy//. The historical Buddha left his wife and son to be an ascetic./ /Go figure./ If you click forty minutes into the broadcast (that is almost precisely when to start the clip) there is a seven minute presentation on the growth of Buddhism in the People's Republic of China that is going on with the state's full support. The segment speaks about how the one child policy is leading to a generation of spoiled children. China hopes that Buddhism will teach the public about compassion to counter the spoiled attitude. Also, China is experiencing a tremendous amount of pollution and the country hopes it will teach people about responsible action to curb pollution. The commentator of the piece said that the closeness of Buddhism and China is only likely to increase because the state sees Buddhism as teaching the country valuable lessons. Again click on the trail of the newscast 40 minutes into the segment to see the entire seven minute segment. PBS NewsHour full episode Nov. 28, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uri7phafYp4 image https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uri7phafYp4 PBS NewsHour full episode Nov. 28, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uri7phafYp4 View on *www.youtube.com* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uri7phafYp4 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
OMG, Richard, what happened to salyavin? He used to sound pretty even tempered
and reasonable. Now he's saying vile stuff to you. And using the c word! Jeez...
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/30/2014 9:44 AM, Share Long wrote:
dear Richard, I'll really miss you. Thank you for all the laughter and
knowledge and good you've brought into my life. all the best always to you and
Rita and your whole family, Share
Thanks. Maybe you should consider subscribing to The Peak.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote:
Richard, I tried this last night but didn't notice anything different.
Maybe cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it? And I forgot to do it this
morning. Nonetheless, will soldier on, thanks again for posting.
The technique may not work for just anyone. Apparently MMY dropped using this
technique himself for some reason, but I found it quite enjoyable.
People usually think thoughts just before going to sleep but quite often they
are just random thinking without any direction.
Until I was taught the Night Technique by Satyanand, I used another
technique that I developed myself - you simply think of something positive to
look forward to the next day and then slip into sleep.
It works too, but not as well. There is something about the directed sound
vibration than is a subtle relaxing feeling with the bija mantra - Laya Yoga
while you sleep.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote:
So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few
times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the
techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume
it was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream
which included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't
(if you can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real),
mused about the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately
went back into the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid
state. Now I'd heard that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape
to suit yourself. So you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero
pilot on a kamikaze mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield.
Whatever floats your boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was
indeed dreaming I couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so
just left the dream to run its course while absorbing the novel experience.
My question is: is there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit
your whim or is it a case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid
dreams are like mine? Or maybe my will power is feeble compared with my
imaginative power and others have a more dominant will?
The trick is to practice a Laya Yoga technique we learned from Satyanand:
When you are ready for sleep you just sit up in bed and then let your bija
mantra rest at the heart chakra for a few minutes. That way, the subtle
currents from your Istadevata will permeate your entire being while you
sleep.
For example, my Istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, so by
resting the bija portion of her mantra at the heart chakra, my intelligence
will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping.
Then, when you awaken in the morning you will feel refreshed and full of
energy and knowledge. It's that simple!
Anyone had a similar experience?
Yes. A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper is aware that he or she
is dreaming. From what I've read, the phenomenon of lucid dreaming has been
well established by scientific research, so its existence is well
established.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Buddhism in the People's Republic of China
No no no no no Buddha took the middle path. You tell everybody that
you're celibate but you dip your wick when you think that you can get away with
it. If you have the sex siddhi, you don't get caught.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Buddhism in the People's Republic of China
On 11/30/2014 4:07 PM, 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Thanks for posting the clip, Rick, but Buddhism advocates celibacy. The
historical Buddha left his wife and son to be an ascetic. Go figure.
If you click forty minutes into the broadcast (that is almost precisely
when to start the clip) there is a seven minute presentation on the growth of
Buddhism in the People's Republic of China that is going on with the state's
full support. The segment speaks about how the one child policy is leading to a
generation of spoiled children. China hopes that Buddhism will teach the
public about compassion to counter the spoiled attitude. Also, China is
experiencing a tremendous amount of pollution and the country hopes it will
teach people about responsible action to curb pollution. The commentator of
the piece said that the closeness of Buddhism and China is only likely to
increase because the state sees Buddhism as teaching the country valuable
lessons. Again click on the trail of the newscast 40 minutes into the
segment to see the entire seven minute segment. PBS NewsHour full
episode Nov. 28, 2014
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
but that doesn't mean he didn't do a lot in teaching meditation and
popularising spiritual seeking
This is something that even M's critics sometimes say, and I disagree. He
wasn't the only huckster from India trying to make a living hawking his
country's esoteric blabber as ultimate knowledge. What he did that made him
seem to eclipse the others was he got lucky. The Beatles fell for his Anton
Mesmer routine and he got tremendous amounts of attention from the news media
due to them. And we see that they were done with him in less than a year.
Were it not for the Beatles, he would have been another long haired Indian
vying for the attention of the gullible masses. He deserves no credit for
popularizing meditation since he did it for total self serving purposes,
which is I believe in direct contravention to any number of Hindu and Vedic
admonishments to the contrary.
And what did his teaching produce? Such men as George Hammond who are willing
to stand in front of an audience and make a big ol' donkey of themselves
spouting things that are obvious hallucinations and made up bullshit. Come on.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
I am going back and looking at this from the beginning - what a bunch of crap.
I think this guy is using the I talked to Marshy deal as a platform to
attract an audience to get 'em to listen to his off the wall beliefs. Just
another (sincere) huckster following in Marshy's footsteps who was himself as
one of the most successful hucksters in the 20th century.
What if it was true and all these Gods did exist and had meetings together,
would they actually accept Maharishi as one of their great representatives
among mankind? To answer yes is to elevate him to the same historical standing
as the others. I'm pretty sure that isn't going to happen worldwide, but that
doesn't mean he didn't do a lot in teaching meditation and popularising
spiritual seeking - at least at first . My worry is all the obvious profit
making through selling of prayers and bullshit cult philosophy that the TMO
does, I can't see Jehovah getting off on that. Or maybe he'd be pissed off that
he didn't think of it first?
It is nice that the gods all get along with each other though. There's an old
atheist saw that says You only believe in one of the thousands of gods, I just
believe in one less than you Now we know that we can believe in all of them!
The idea that they are all faces of the same thing must be wrong, and I always
thought that was a good idea of Marshy's - very inclusive - I see that Hammond
forgot that part of his teaching. Surprised he wasn't reminded by the man
himself!
But I can't help thinking they'd all be more at odds with each other.The
eastern and western religions really were different, the old testament god was
a total wanker, vindictive and merciless. And the eastern ones were all
fundamentalist, caste based anti-feminist fatalists. When did it all change,
how come they are like a big new age happy family? They'd be smiting each other
as badly as they used to do us. I'm starting to smell a rat
If only he'd given the Scientologists a message from Xenu. Then we'd know he
was in touch with the Great Ones and not just stringing us a line from a
daydream he had.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
Everyone is merged with the absolute, the process of enlightenmentis
realizing it. The absolute is all that is and everything elseis just an
illusion.
This is where I go wrong. I'm utterly convinced it's the other way round!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Sacking of FFL
Too bad you never told Doc Dummy that since he did the same thing quite often.
From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Sacking of FFL
It's a matter of the tone in which the discussion takes place, something
that I doubt, given your history, that you would understand. Discussion is one
thing, but an entire stream of abusive posts using the kind of language that
seems to come naturally to you is quite another.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
It's *not*, after all, as if the description of this forum gives the impression
that it's a forum for TM blissninnies to come and discuss their fantasies
without being bothered by negativity --
We often discuss the trials and tribulations of the TM Movement, whichmay not
interest some, but that's why God created the delete key. ... Pretty much any
topic is fair game.
Then there are the quotes chosen by Rick to set the tone for this forum,
among which are:
What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is
the exact opposite. ~ Bertrand Russell
The healthy mind challenges its own assumptions. ~ The I Ching
Believe nothing, no matter whereyou read it, or who said it, no matter if I
have said it, unless itagrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
~ Buddha
Take what you need and leave the rest. ~ The Band
I mean, to invoke the spirit of Judy Stein, one would have to be REEAALLY
REEAALLY REEAALLY STOOOPID to believe that the still-fervent TMers are the
owners of this group and that the neganauts are the intruders.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
Well it's lucky for you two that you have another option, you don't need to
visit this place and lament at us fallen souls, you can go to Jim's new site
and talk about how fantastic you and your beliefs are instead of getting
depressed round here. It's only you that wants to stay here, ever ask yourself
why?
I'd say take Willytex with you but I doubt they'd have him, that sad sack of
shit will probably be sitting here moaning about nothing until doomsday. What a
waste of time for you all, visiting a website where all you do is complain
about what goes on there! I mean go figure
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
Dear RD; GoodPoint RD, the ruse of these apostates trying to come back 'to
save'people reads much more now like the harassment of a people who
areotherwise comfortable having dealt with their own moral dissonanceswithin
their own community in their own terms to their own spiritualends. Who are
these neganauts to interfere with the internal affairsof others any way? It
seems incredibly arrogant on their part tocome in here and try to methodically
disturb people's peace. Itseems now quite a hateful and shocking harassment to
use such defamatorylanguage the way they do. Having learned their own
particularhistories as they have related them on FFL through time
thensympathetically when considering these guys as sources of anything
spiritual they are quite pitiable really. It is a shame that their abuse ofthe
unguarded cultural openness of this community has allowed them totake over the
flower that was FFL with their negativity and erode off our our more seasoned
reasoned and experienced membership. -Buck in Fairfield, Iowa
raunchydog wrote :
Barry, your recent use of crude language and imagery for the sake of
pushingbuttons is just an escalation of your usual MO, which I usually
respondto by making fun of you. What I find funny is your delusion
thatinventing an offensive straw-man (offensive to any normal human being)in
order to push true believer buttons will somehow expose and perhapsliberate
them from TMO/MMY delusions. You never seem to get is how people respond to you
is about your offensive behavior,period. Apart from the fact that IMO you are
a narcissistic,self-righteous, self-aggrandizing human being, your failed
mission towake up perceived cultists from *your* cult nightmare IS NOT
WORKING.You cannot fix whatever hurts from cults you have experienced in
thepast by projecting unresolved pain onto others.
Granted, implyingthe police ought to investigate you as a child abuser is a
bridge toofar. Let's just say you brought it on yourself and leave it at that.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Dear Rick
On 11/30/2014 01:50 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/30/2014 11:25 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: ** */I hear that Willy has *his* own porn site, and this is one of his favorite pics: :-)/* If Rick has any integrity, Barry Wright will be banned from posting to FFL for posting porn as text AND linked images. Rick? Wow, now you're the only troll here you really stand out Willy. And the sight aint pretty. I'll ask you again, what do you get out of this endless childish behaviour? are you bored at home? No friends to talk to? Your existence here is pointless, unless you are here just to piss people off but what would anyone get out of behaving like that? Do you think you are funny or clever or something? You really stick out now. Apparently Jim has a new group where you aren't allowed to be nasty, don't know what they are talking about now they don't have us to complain about all day every day, but maybe if you asked nicely they'd let you join in. Maybe you'd learn how to communicate like a normal human being. You CAN teach an old dog new tricks! And Share thinks you are vile to Richard when far and away the all time most vile person on FFL as well as a.m.t ..is(opening the envelope)... Richard J Williams! I've even created an award for the most vile person named The Willies. On 11/30/2014 02:31 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: OMG, Richard, what happened to salyavin? He used to sound pretty even tempered and reasonable. Now he's saying vile stuff to you. And using the c word! Jeez...
[FairfieldLife] Understanding Stress
At the Center for Brain Research at the MedUni Vienna an important factor for stress has been identified in collaboration with the Karolinska Institutet in Stockholm (Sweden). This is the protein secretagogin that plays an important role in the release of the stress hormone CRH and which only then enables stress processes in the brain to be transmitted to the pituitary gland and then onwards to the organs. A current study on this molecular switch has now been published in the top-ranked /EMBO Journal/. More here: http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-11-trigger-stress-brain.html
[FairfieldLife] totally different take on Hinduism
True Hindu Greatness - Koenraad Elst https://bharatabharati.wordpress.com/2014/11/23/true-hindu-greatness-koenraad-elst/ https://bharatabharati.wordpress.com/2014/11/23/true-hindu-greatness-koenraad-elst/ True Hindu Greatness - Koenraad Elst https://bharatabharati.wordpress.com/2014/11/23/true-hindu-greatness-koenraad-elst/ Against the narrow-minded exclusivism of Christianity and Islam, the Hindu tradition offers the solution. Inside and outside the Vedas, almost everywher... View on bharatabharati.wordpres... https://bharatabharati.wordpress.com/2014/11/23/true-hindu-greatness-koenraad-elst/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] by all means decide for yourself...but
there is stuff presented here NOT in opposition to TM that I am very surprised that someone here buys into so easily, do you own research as someone could be learned about some things and very wrong about others, ask yourself what are the credentials or obvious rage/frustration over the lack of (R)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
That talk was spiritually inspired. Worth taking note of, -Buck rick wrote : This is starting in a little while: http://www.30thnovember.com/live/ http://www.30thnovember.com/live/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dear Rick
On 11/30/2014 5:16 PM, Bhairitu wrote: And Share thinks you are vile to Richard when far and away the all time most vile person on FFL You are a liar - Share has never posted a vile word to Richard and Share is NOT, by any stretch of the imagination, the most vile person on FFL. You owe Share an apology, Sir.
[FairfieldLife] Stop The Porn!, was Dear Rick
On 11/30/2014 11:25 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: */I hear that Willy has *his* own porn site, and this is one of his favorite pics: :-) /*STOP THE PORN! Yahoo Groups Guidelines: /Don't violate the law. Members of Yahoo! communities are not above the law, so don't post anything that violates the laws of your country, state, province, or city. // // //Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting. //You may not:// // //a. upload, post, email, transmit, or otherwise make available any Content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, or racially, ethnically, or otherwise objectionable./*/ /* On 11/30/2014 03:55 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com mailto:pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Dear Rick - Your porn-site sucks!
[FairfieldLife] Stop The Porn, was Words of Wisdom...
STOP THE PORN! Yahoo Groups Guidelines: /Don't violate the law. Members of Yahoo! communities are not above the law, so don't post anything that violates the laws of your country, state, province, or city. // // //Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting. //You may not:// // //a. upload, post, email, transmit, or otherwise make available any Content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, or racially, ethnically, or otherwise objectionable. /On 11/30/2014 11:08 AM, salyavin808 wrote:/ /
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[FairfieldLife] Rick - Stop The Abuse, was, Words of Wisdom... [1 Attachment]
On 11/30/2014 02:31 PM, Share Long FairfieldLife] wrote: OMG, Richard, what happened to salyavin? /Obviously he doesn't want to talk about Rotherham, so his defense is to attack me like a hypocrite./ And using the c word! Jeez... /It's a clear sign of desperation when an informant posts an abusive message like this to the only female respondent left in the group. //He should be ashamed of himself, Share. If Judy was still around she would probably take him to task for his gender bias and for posting pornography to the group, which is against the forum guidelines and against Yahoo Groups Rules. It's just amazing that Rick is letting this abuse go without some kind of at least a warning or a reprimand.// Frankly, I'm surprised this group hasn't been taken down by the Yahoo Administrators. Nobody is supposed to be posting messages that are harmful to minors. I think there's a law in Fairfield against this. Some people in Middle America don't take very kindly to attempted moral corruption of their children./ On 11/30/2014 11:08 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
So you think that Maharishi spoke through whathisname? When people talked about Maharishi channeling Gurudev when he gave a lecture on Gurudev's behalf (at the request of the living guru, mind you), they didn't mean in the sense of a Western spiritual medium, as far as I know, but in the sense of having absorbed the message so well that it was like listening to the original speak. A subtle, but important distinction, I think. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : That talk was spiritually inspired. Worth taking note of, -Buck rick wrote : This is starting in a little while: http://www.30thnovember.com/live/ http://www.30thnovember.com/live/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Reincarnating as a Bi-location to The_Peak..
The migration seems to be going well, over to The Peak https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/info https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/info The Peak https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/info The Peak is an ongoing conversation about our journey as human beings, upwards towards the pinnacle, and fulfillment of our existence; Enlightenm... View on groups.yahoo.com https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/info Preview by Yahoo Yes sadly, FFL at Yahoo-groups in a fragmentation it seems now is Mostly Left to Angry People. -Buck still meditating in Fairfield, Iowa
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
So where do the esoteric experiences you have described from meditation come from if not from the Absolute? To quote Maharishi defending his call to study meditation using scientific apparatus: Every experience has its level of physiology, and so unbounded awareness has its own level of physiology which can be measured. Every aspect of life is integrated and connected with every other phase. When we talk of scientific measurements, it does not take away from the spiritual experience. We are not responsible for those times when spiritual experience was thought of as metaphysical. Everything is physical. Consciousness is the product of the functioning of the brain. Talking of scientific measurements is no damage to that wholeness of life which is present everywhere and which begins to be lived when the physiology is taking on a particular form. This is our understanding about spirituality: it is not on the level of faith --it is on the level of blood and bone and flesh and activity. It is measurable. The relevant part is: wholeness of life which is present everywhere and which begins to be lived when the physiology is taking on a particular form. Maharishi assumes that wholeness (Brahm?) exists and our nervous system can change in ways that enable us to appreciate it. You can assert that the wholeness doesn't really exist and that the changes in the nervous system are solely responsible for the perception of the non-existent thing. That might be the case, but if those changes are useful in and of themselves, does it matter? The behavioral improvements shown by the vast majority of inmates in Senegal who learned TM meant it was of value to the prison system and hopefully to the inmates, even if the mullahs eventually ruled against it. Likewise, the new research on genetic expression that was done at MUM by Wenuganen Supaya for his doctoral thesis is very exciting. If it is confirmed by longitudental studies that TM practice really does change teh expression of the 74 genes in beneficial ways that he found in long-term TMers vs non-TMing controls of the same age, this could be very exciting. Such changes are part of the progression towards the ability to appreciate wholeness. It might be that you can evoke those behavioral and genetic changes without enhancing the ability to perceive wholeness, and perhaps in the future, people will opt for that, instead, but if a single technique, or a group of related techniques, can bring about such changes, as part of the process of growing to appreciate wholeness, it doesn't seem that bad a deal to practice them, even if the side-effect, growth in appreciation of wholeness, is merely an illusion. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : So where do the esoteric experiences you have described from meditation come from if not from the Absolute? From my head. My head creates my experience of the world outside and meditation changes how the different parts of the brain communicates so that my subjective world alters too. I think. It's either that or some mystical thing that is beyond our understanding. So I stick with materialism until proved otherwise because we know our brains are running the show and we've no reason to suspect there is need of any other forces to create consciousness. While it remains poorly understood there will always be wiggle room for people to sneak in ideas that make it seem more than it is. In addition I am watching Hammond talk about seeing Marshy - this guy was hallucinating and that's about it. I felt a bit sorry for him after a while. But he lives in an exciting world, I never get to speak with God How was the Mockingjay movie? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You mean everything is real and the absolute is imaginary? Yup, I'm as much a philosophical realist as you can be in a post-Newtonian, quantum world. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Everyone is merged with the absolute, the process of enlightenment is realizing it. The absolute is all that is and everything else is just an illusion. This is where I go wrong. I'm utterly convinced it's the other way round!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Live Stream | 30th November
The gods are teh devas, which means shining ones. Using Maharishi's terminology, someone in God Consciousness notices that the wholeness of the functioning of the brain starts to reconfigure in a certain way to process incoming data, or express a specific aspect of being human. The reconfiguration, where some parts of the brain become more active and some less, shines forth in a way distinct from the actual objects of perception associated with that kind of processing, and is given a label: the deva so-and-so, whose job it is to handle math, or love or whatever. Repeat the description of that and pass it along, and eventually the devas become gods in a religion. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 11/30/2014 12:19 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Everyone is merged with the absolute, the process of enlightenment is realizing it. The absolute is all that is and everything else is just an illusion. This is where I go wrong. I'm utterly convinced it's the other way round! Yup, everything else is the relative. It's the basic teaching of SCI, Indian philosophy and even Zoroaster. I've told the story many times here of the emcee at the Katakali Dance Theater in Cochin explaining this and saying that it was so incomprehensible to simple people that the ancients made up the gods as metaphors to explain it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Understanding Stress
Thanks for that link. I found the original article and passed it on to the TM researchers on my mailing list. They're always interested in new avenues to explore how TM practice might affect teh brain. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : At the Center for Brain Research at the MedUni Vienna an important factor for stress has been identified in collaboration with the Karolinska Institutet in Stockholm (Sweden). This is the protein secretagogin that plays an important role in the release of the stress hormone CRH and which only then enables stress processes in the brain to be transmitted to the pituitary gland and then onwards to the organs. A current study on this molecular switch has now been published in the top-ranked EMBO Journal. More here: http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-11-trigger-stress-brain.html http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-11-trigger-stress-brain.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick - Stop The Abuse, was, Words of Wisdom... [1 Attachment]
Richard, what about Seraphita? Anyway, did you get a chance to listen to the
George Hammond presentation?
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On 11/30/2014 02:31 PM, Share Long FairfieldLife] wrote:
OMG, Richard, what happened to salyavin?
Obviously he doesn't want to talk about Rotherham, so his defense is to attack
me like a hypocrite.
And using the c word! Jeez...
It's a clear sign of desperation when an informant posts an abusive message
like this to the only female respondent left in the group. He should be
ashamed of himself, Share.
If Judy was still around she would probably take him to task for his gender
bias and for posting pornography to the group, which is against the forum
guidelines and against Yahoo Groups Rules. It's just amazing that Rick is
letting this abuse go without some kind of at least a warning or a reprimand.
Frankly, I'm surprised this group hasn't been taken down by the Yahoo
Administrators. Nobody is supposed to be posting messages that are harmful to
minors. I think there's a law in Fairfield against this. Some people in Middle
America don't take very kindly to attempted moral corruption of their children.
On 11/30/2014 11:08 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry's laughing his arse off at all of you.
Poor Barry has to keep his act up. Of course I'm assuming that he is informed and enjoying it all rather than actually uninformed and downright stupid. However, I could be wrong and as others have suggested, Barry could be merely narcissisticly vacuous. Barry does not have standing in an Amerikan court of law with reference to protected speech. The forum is Amerikan. The server is Amerikan. The laws are Amerikan. In every case Barry has to log into an Amerikan server to access FFL. He should log out and go back to psycho-Europa - the has-been continent for has-been expats. Dutch law doesn't apply in Amerika. Only Amerikan law pertains to FFL. Barry's claims are sheer bluff based upon incoherence. He may also be delusional. Welcome to Schizoid-Europa.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Sacking of FFL
Dear Yahoo-Groups Guideline Police: I have long pleaded for a higher power to come in here and help clean this place up. I welcome your arrival. Hopefully you can help us mediate and even help revive all that was once really good about FairfieldLife as a Yahoo-group community. I am one of the longest surviving original members of this forum and well know its ways. I am actually on of the few FFL member participants on the ground here in Fairfield, Iowa and I should be glad to be of administrative assistance for you if you need help controlling this out-of-hand group. -Buck in Fairfield, Iowa Dear RD; Good Point RD, the ruse of these apostates trying to come back 'to save' people reads much more now like the harassment of a people who are otherwise comfortable having dealt with their own moral dissonances within their own community in their own terms to their own spiritual ends. Who are these neganauts to interfere with the internal affairs of others any way? It seems incredibly arrogant on their part to come in here and try to methodically disturb people's peace. It seems now quite a hateful and shocking harassment to use such defamatory language the way they do. Having learned their own particular histories as they have related them on FFL through time then sympathetically when considering these guys as sources of anything spiritual they are quite pitiable really. It is a shame that their abuse of the unguarded cultural openness of this community has allowed them to take over the flower that was FFL with their negativity and erode off our our more seasoned reasoned and experienced membership. -Buck in Fairfield, Iowa raunchydog wrote : Barry, your recent use of crude language and imagery for the sake of pushing buttons is just an escalation of your usual MO, which I usually respond to by making fun of you. What I find funny is your delusion that inventing an offensive straw-man (offensive to any normal human being) in order to push true believer buttons will somehow expose and perhaps liberate them from TMO/MMY delusions. You never seem to get is how people respond to you is about your offensive behavior, period. Apart from the fact that IMO you are a narcissistic, self-righteous, self-aggrandizing human being, your failed mission to wake up perceived cultists from *your* cult nightmare IS NOT WORKING. You cannot fix whatever hurts from cults you have experienced in the past by projecting unresolved pain onto others. Granted, implying the police ought to investigate you as a child abuser is a bridge too far. Let's just say you brought it on yourself and leave it at that.
