Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen and similiars

2016-09-21 Thread Nancy
rrow is still able > to produce red cells, get him started on the Epogen and see if that helps. I > also would again recommend Doxycycline in the hopes that it would act to keep > the viral load down. > > Amani > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen and similiars

2016-09-20 Thread Amani Oakley
Yes, Robert, I would think that it makes sense to try to get ahead of the problem. Just purely on a logical basis, while the bone marrow is still able to produce red cells, get him started on the Epogen and see if that helps. I also would again recommend Doxycycline in the hopes that it would

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen and similiars

2016-09-20 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
Amani... I understand your reasoning and have no rebuttal as I had not really considered this...  As it makes sense to address anemia BEFORE it becomes life threatening perhaps it would make sense to start Epogen( or similar) well before all the progenitors are wiped out My young boy

[Felvtalk] FW: Epogen and other RBC enhancing drugs....

2016-09-19 Thread Amani Oakley
It's not the same, Robert, and I am not sure it would work. The Epogen acts on the kidneys to secrete erythropoietin, which is a hormone that tells the bone marrow to produce more red cells. The problem, in my opinion, is that the FeLV infiltrates the red cell progenitor cells in the bone

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen and other RBC enhancing drugs....

2016-09-18 Thread Amani Oakley
It's not the same, Robert, and I am not sure it would work. The Epogen acts on the kidneys to secrete erythropoietin, which is a hormone that tells the bone marrow to produce more red cells. The problem, in my opinion, is that the FeLV infiltrates the red cell progenitor cells in the bone

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen and other RBC enhancing drugs....

2016-09-18 Thread dlgegg
. Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> wrote: > I have used Aranesp (Darbepoetin) for a young cat with non-regenerative anemia in kidney crisis. It seems better tolerated by cats than Epogen, and is given less frequently. It isn't cheap, my little vial was $200, but she only actuall

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen and other RBC enhancing drugs....

2016-09-18 Thread Margo
I have used Aranesp (Darbepoetin) for a young cat with non-regenerative anemia in kidney crisis. It seems better tolerated by cats than Epogen, and is given less frequently. It isn't cheap, my little vial was $200, but she only actually needed three doses. Two of those were given while she

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen and other RBC enhancing drugs....

2016-09-18 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
Wondering if anyone in the group has any experience with Epogen or Procrit ( and other such RBC enhancing drugs typically used with Kidney Failure patients)   It's appears to be quite a bit cheaper when used for veterinary purposes than human   As the go to drug for anemia in Kidney

[Felvtalk] Epogen and Procrit Recall

2010-09-24 Thread Sharyl
Just a heads up for those of you using either epogen or procrit. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39346311/ns/health-more_health_news/ Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc

2010-08-25 Thread Beth
: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 10:13 PM Sounds like the vet is not too interested in working with felv cats.  Gave up before fighting, huh. With a hematocrit of eight the cat's in real trouble

Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc

2010-08-25 Thread MaryChristine
] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 10:13 PM Sounds like the vet is not too interested in working with felv cats.  Gave up before fighting, huh. With a hematocrit of eight the cat's in real trouble

Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc

2010-08-25 Thread Michelle Brockman
the things which will be remembered Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:59:31 -0700 From: mr_mok...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc did the vet have any idea about why a rejection would occur? surely it's

[Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc

2010-08-24 Thread MaryChristine
just got an email from a rescue i work with, about someone who adopted a FeLV positive a few months ago. kitty is NOT doing well--with a hematocrit of 8. she asked her vet about doing a transfusion, and he said that's not done with FeLV cats. well, other than getting a new vet, i'm asking you guys

Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc

2010-08-24 Thread Michelle Brockman
...@yahoogroups.com; cats.ro...@gmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc just got an email from a rescue i work with, about someone who adopted a FeLV positive a few months ago. kitty is NOT doing well--with a hematocrit of 8. she asked her vet about doing

Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc

2010-08-24 Thread Barb Moermond
@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 3:53:45 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc I always caution people about transfusions based on my own experience. Our kitten needed a transfusion due to her levels being so low which she did get. After

Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc

2010-08-24 Thread MaryChristine
my suggestion is CERTAINLY to check for hemobartenellosis--why it wasn't done initially, i have no idea. not knowing the kind of anemia either, makes it difficult. the vet involved claimed that they were having trouble finding any blood, and they wouldn't be able to call til after 5PM. i'd

Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc

2010-08-24 Thread gary
Subject: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc just got an email from a rescue i work with, about someone who adopted a FeLV positive a few months ago. kitty is NOT doing well--with a hematocrit of 8. she asked her vet about doing a transfusion, and he said that's

Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc

2010-08-24 Thread gary
PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc I always caution people about transfusions based on my own experience. Our kitten needed a transfusion due to her levels being so low which she did get. After the transfusion

Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc

2010-08-24 Thread MaryChristine
thanks, gary! i cannot for the life of me figure out why the vet didn't check for hemobartenellosis, and no, cat is NOT on doxy! on clavamox. (don't even ask.) MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed

Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc

2010-08-24 Thread Sara Kasteleyn
: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen,etc Usually, a transfusion with un-typed blood can be done once, but there is a risk. If the blood is typed and a matching blood used, the risk is very

Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc

2010-08-24 Thread MaryChristine
-Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen,etc Usually

Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc

2010-08-24 Thread jbero tds.net
Sounds like the vet is not too interested in working with felv cats. Gave up before fighting, huh. With a hematocrit of eight the cat's in real trouble. If it's hemobartonella the rbcs are being continually destroyed. They will generally transfuse around 18 so she doesn't have much time to

Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc

2010-08-24 Thread Belinda Sauro
Baileys anemia was non regenerative and epogen and prednisolone kick started his red cell production and he did fine for almost 6 months, he passed from undiagnosed pancreatic cancer but his HCT when he passed was still at 33%. He started the epo when his HCT was at 18%, it dropped to 15

Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc

2010-08-24 Thread Belinda Sauro
PS. My vet did more than 5 transfusions on a positive and never had problems. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc

2010-08-24 Thread MaryChristine
-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com wrote:  Baileys anemia was non regenerative and epogen and prednisolone kick

[Felvtalk] Epogen

2010-04-08 Thread Frank Sue Koren
Hello everyone, I have most of a 1ML SDV vial of 10,000 U/ML Epogen and some syringes if anyone could use them. I would be happy to overnight them to the first person to send me an address. This stuff is too expensive to go in the trash and I only used two injections from it. Sue

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?

2010-03-18 Thread Sharyl
but many cats respond to a treatment plan. Sharyl --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 10:22 PM Amy, I have not used epogen for a CRF

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?

2010-03-18 Thread Amy
Hi Belinda,    I'll give her the benefit of the doubt, but what exactly is she basing her information that FeLV+'s have such a bad experience with using epogen, because I have not heard of any studies that have been done on this to bear that out and if there is one I would like

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?

2010-03-17 Thread Amy
these results with Epogen. I actually had the vet research WHY it could possibly help a leuk positive cat because of your story. I can't find one vet that can explain why it could possibly help since a leuk positive cat is normally making erythropoietin just fine on it's own. That's

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?

2010-03-17 Thread Belinda Sauro
I'll give her the benefit of the doubt, but what exactly is she basing her information that FeLV+'s have such a bad experience with using epogen, because I have not heard of any studies that have been done on this to bear that out and if there is one I would like the reference so I can look

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?

2010-03-17 Thread Belinda Sauro
Here is some good info on anemia, it is from the CRF site but it explains some of the blood work results of an anemic cat and what they mean and anemia is anemia: http://www.felinecrf.org/anaemia.htm#reticulocytes -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?

2010-03-17 Thread Hotmail Junk
story well and honestly you are one of the only stories I've heard with positive results (not to say there aren't a lot more good ones out there, that's why I'm asking). Your story keeps me wondering if I should try it despite the warnings. I'm so glad you had these results with Epogen. I

[Felvtalk] Casper Epogen shot

2010-03-17 Thread Frank Sue Koren
I just gave Casper his first Epogen shot. He is supposed to get .15 ml daily to start. Hopefully things will get better for him. Tomorrow I am supposed to pick up the Imulan and give him that shot. I am shocked at how expensive all this stuff is. The one vial of Epogen was about $75.00

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?

2010-03-17 Thread Sharyl
Amy, I have not used epogen for a CRF or FeLV kitty though I have had both with anemia. There is a Yahoo Anemia group that may be able to answer some of your questions about the risks of using epogen or Darbepoetin. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline_Anemia/ I used vitamins

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?

2010-03-17 Thread Amy
Amy, I have not used epogen for a CRF or FeLV kitty though I have had both with anemia.  There is a Yahoo Anemia group that may be able to answer some of your questions about the risks of using epogen or Darbepoetin. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline_Anemia/ I was part

Re: [Felvtalk] Casper Epogen shot

2010-03-17 Thread Amy
Sue, Will you please keep me posted on Casper's progress? I'd love to hear how the Epogen/LTCI work for you. Good luck. Amy --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Frank Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote: From: Frank Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Casper Epogen shot To: FeLV talk

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?

2010-03-17 Thread Amy
: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 11:55 AM PS.  Has she tested his iron to see if that is low, many anemic acts are low in iron? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com

Re: [Felvtalk] Casper Epogen shot

2010-03-17 Thread Belinda Sauro
Wow, I paid 65.00 for a 1ml vial, it was a 2000IU and Fred was getting 0.15 also, there was enough in the 1ml vial for 8 or 9 shots. What size is your vial, I also bought mine at Walgreens in Washington state. It was only $50.00 dollars for the same size and dosage at the Fred Meyer

Re: [Felvtalk] Casper Epogen shot

2010-03-17 Thread Belinda Sauro
PS. Why is he getting it daily the standard dosing is 0.15ml (more or less depending on weight), 3 times a week? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list

[Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?

2010-03-16 Thread Frank Sue Koren
Epogen. My vet calls it Arithro proeatin (I know I botched the spelling of that.) He is also looking into Interferon. Has anyone had experience with these with an anemic positive cat? Now that my decision to mix has make Casper become positive I want to do whatever I can for him

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?

2010-03-16 Thread Hotmail Junk
are trying to deal with that. He has been getting Prednosolone and Doxycycline for about a week and a half without improvement. His count was 19 when he was tested two weeks ago. I took him today for a PCV and don't have the results yet. He also got an iron shot. I asked about Epogen. My

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?

2010-03-16 Thread Ashley Vanover
When Kong was first diagnosed his count was at 7 and he had two blood transfusions to get him back up to a healthy level. He has nonregenerative anemia. He's been on a gradually decreasing dosage of pred and a week on/week off schedule of 1ml of Interferon for the past 6 months. He gets

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?

2010-03-16 Thread MaryChristine
sue, was casper ever double tested to make sure he was actually negative? a single negative test means no more than a single positive test does: unless we know for sure when the last possible date of exposure was, and do a final test 90-120 days after that, we cannot know that any cat is truly

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?

2010-03-16 Thread Hotmail Junk
Thankfully, my Gray Kitty, has been negative for over 7-8 months now. All specialists have said we can now stop testing him monthly. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 16, 2010, at 4:23 PM, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: sue, was casper ever double tested to make sure he was

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?

2010-03-16 Thread Frank Sue Koren
and told him I wanted the Epogen because I wasn't going to just sit back and watch him die. He called a prescription in to Walgreens and they had to order it. I will pick it up after work tomorrow along with the syringes and give him his first injection tomorrow evening. My vet also contacted

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?

2010-03-16 Thread Amy
Hi Sue, Just wanted to ask what Casper's HCT is right now? Does he have CRF? I have looked into Epogen as well and know some people swear by it. I don't want to contradict anything you've heard but just wanted to offer up another thing to consider. The specialist I talked to said all

[Felvtalk] erythropoietin (i.e.,Epogen, Procrit) with LTCI

2010-01-23 Thread Jason Michael Canon
Greetings, Does anyone have experience using either Epogen or Procrit concurrently with LTCI? Thanks ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] erythropoietin (i.e.,Epogen, Procrit) with LTCI

2010-01-23 Thread Jane Lyons
no Jason, but if you find that either help I would be open to researching it. Jane On Jan 23, 2010, at 9:29 PM, Jason Michael Canon wrote: Greetings, Does anyone have experience using either Epogen or Procrit concurrently with LTCI? Thanks

[Felvtalk] To Kim and Cole/Anemia/Epogen

2008-08-16 Thread wendy
would caution you about starting with Epogen right away, only because sometimes cats' immune system begins to resist it and it can worsen the anemia in this case.  Epogen also takes 2-3 weeks to kick in, so if you do use it, your kitty may need a blood transfusion in the meantime to give the Epogen

[Felvtalk] Epogen and Cole

2008-08-16 Thread Kim Thomas
on Friday afternoon to get his second dose of epogen and so far he is handling it well. Cole has been eating on his own thankfully. The vet gave us a special type of wet food that is higher in protein and calories, so he doesnt have to eat as much of it to get his nutrition. But he is eating alot

Re: Doxy and IR and Epogen, oh my! What to do?

2007-03-25 Thread catatonya
is tomorrow at 5:40. The challenge I'm trying to sort out right now is what the next steps should be. Based on my own research and all the info you guys have been so awesome to provide, it seems like there's about 3 options: Epogen to increase the red blood cells, Doxy to treat possible

Doxy and IR and Epogen, oh my! What to do?

2007-03-20 Thread Marissa Johnson
be. Based on my own research and all the info you guys have been so awesome to provide, it seems like there's about 3 options: Epogen to increase the red blood cells, Doxy to treat possible Hemobartanella, Immuno Regulin to stimulate his immune system. The doctor had said she'd consider

Re: Doxy and IR and Epogen, oh my! What to do?

2007-03-20 Thread cindy reasoner
to give him the shots at home. We started twice a week for a few months then went to once a week to now I give him a shot every other month. She also gave him an injection of Winstrol every other week for about a month or two. The Doxy and Epogen I can't help you with because I have never used them

Re: Doxy and IR and Epogen, oh my! What to do?

2007-03-20 Thread wendy
Hey Marissa, In my opinion, the Epogen should be #1 on the list, and should be affordable. And I would also do the doxy. Both of these should be done at the very least, or the transfusion will have been for naught. I can't say on the IR, but I know we've had at least one member that uses

Epogen? Winstrol?

2007-03-17 Thread Marissa Johnson
Hi all. A few people have recommended looking into Epogen and/or Winstrol for Slinky. He's very anemic. His numbers on Wed. were as follows: WBC: 2.86 K/uL LYM: 1.09 K/uL MONO: 1.52 K/uL NEU: .17 K/uL EOS: 0.08 K/uL BASO: 0 K/uL HCT: 14.8% RBC: 2.91 M/uL HGB: 7.7 g/dL

Re: Epogen? Winstrol?

2007-03-17 Thread wendy
into Epogen and/or Winstrol for Slinky. He's very anemic. His numbers on Wed. were as follows: WBC: 2.86 K/uL LYM: 1.09 K/uL MONO: 1.52 K/uL NEU: .17 K/uL EOS: 0.08 K/uL BASO: 0 K/uL HCT: 14.8% RBC: 2.91 M/uL HGB: 7.7 g/dL RETIC: 16.9 K/uL %RETIC: 0.6% MCV

RE: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that it will only help her..

2006-10-31 Thread Gina WN
guess I am a little nut.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosenfeldt, DianeSent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:55 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that itwillonly help her..What a lovely idea

Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that it will only help her..

2006-10-27 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Hi, everyone thank you very much for your input.. after debating in my heads for a few days, I just gave her the first shot of epogen.. the vet told me to give 0.04 ml (she weighs only lb) I know its a smaller amount than the regualar protocol, but since her kidney function is working

Re: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that it will only help h...

2006-10-27 Thread TatorBunz
the first shot of epogen.. the vet told me to give 0.04 ml (she weighs only lb) – I know it’s a smaller amount than the regualar protocol, but since her kidney function is working just fine,, that’s why I gave her – I realized that no matter what, if I did or did not do.. I am going to regret

Re: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that it will onlyhelp her..

2006-10-27 Thread Kat
PROTECTED], CRF List [EMAIL PROTECTED], felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that it will onlyhelp her.. Hi, everyone thank you very much for your input.. after debating in my heads for a few days, I just gave her the first shot

Re: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that it will only help her..

2006-10-27 Thread etrent
first shot of epogen - please pray that it will only help her.. Hi, everyone thank you very much for your input.. after debating in my heads for a few days, I just gave her the first shot of epogen.. the vet told me to give 0.04 ml (she weighs only lb) – I know it’s a smaller amount than

RE: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that it will only help her..

2006-10-27 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that it will only help her.. Hideyo, Lots of love and white light going to you and Dharma. I hope so much this will help her. elizabeth -Original Message- From

RE: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that it willonly help her..

2006-10-27 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
first shot of epogen - please pray that it willonly help her.. Thank you so much, Elizabeth! I actually wrote a song for Dharma and sing it all the time so that all the energy on earth can hear it and help Dharma heal From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL

RE: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that it will only help her..

2006-10-27 Thread cindy reasoner
Hideyo, I hope that the epogen helps your precious little Dharma. You and Dharma are in my prayers. Cindy Reasoner --- Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you so much, Elizabeth! I actually wrote a song for Dharma and sing it all the time so that all the energy on earth can

RE: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that it will only help her..

2006-10-27 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that itwillonly help her.. What a lovely idea, Hideyo! Dharma is a lucky girl to have you caring for her and singing about her. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that it willonly help her..

2006-10-27 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
A little, but in a GOOD way. ;-) Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo YamamotoSent: Friday, October 27, 2006 3:04 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that it willonly help her.. Greg

RE: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that it will help her

2006-10-27 Thread Leslie
! :) Leslie From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that it willonly help her..Greg (my sort of BF) thinks I am crazy, because I sing everywhere soloud --- I just want every single living thing on earth.. air, breeze, rain, clouds, sun

RE: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that it willhelp her

2006-10-27 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that it willhelp her Hideyo, That is the most endearing thing that I have ever heard. If you want to send the lyrics publicly or privately, I would be more than happy to tell them to Bea and Satch and say them over and over - my actual

Re: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that it will only help h...

2006-10-27 Thread Lernermichelle
I think you are doing the right thing, Hideyo, and I pray it helps her. Michelle

RE: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that it will only help her.

2006-10-27 Thread Watsdadillyo
singin is great Hideyo..releaves stress and micracles happen everyday keep singin girl and bless you and Dharma :0) Kayte and Crackers RE: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that it will only help her.. Hideyo YamamotoFri, 27 Oct 2006 13:07:18 -0700

Re: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that it will only help h...

2006-10-27 Thread ETrent
… From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 11:54 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Dharma go her first shot of epogen - please pray that it will only help her.. Hideyo, Lots

epogen

2006-02-10 Thread Kerry Roach
Hi all, I am behind on reading, but I did see a post about epogen somewhere..Anyway, Bandy had epogen injections for around 5 to 6 wks, I think...We stopped them with no problem when his PCV elevated so he wouldn't develope antibodies to it..His internal med specialist suggested it at the time

To Bonnie and Kerry...Re: Have epogen for Fu - what to do next?

2006-01-19 Thread MamaKitty1
Dear Friends: I'm wading thru a multitude of posts, and I know this is late in coming, but wanted to add a note from my experience. Bonnie, I know you've started the Epogen by now and all is well. I would have suggested that yes, you wait until you could watch Fu before starting. They can

Re: Have epogen for Fu - what to do next?

2006-01-08 Thread catatonya
Bonnie,Did you get on the hyper-t yahoo group yet? They are very knowledgeable with hyper-t, tapazole, and the effects of both on the kidneys, anemia, etc. They might have some ideas for you. Thinking of you and Fu.tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:HI, Belinda. Yes, fluids do thin

Re: Have epogen for Fu - what to do next?

2006-01-08 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
Tonya, I don't think I'm on that one yet. The Epogen seems to have perked Fu up a little bit - I'm just hoping now that he'll make it through the next few days. Bonnie www.elephants.com - Original Message - From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, January 8, 2006 4:31 am

Re: Have epogen for Fu - what to do next?

2006-01-07 Thread Kerry Roach
yr even though he has a great appetite...I think I should give him the chance, too...There might be an easy answer...So I agree with Michelle, you should give your Fu that chance as well...Bandy didn't have any problems with the epogen, but he is 5 and no other problems...I don't know about

Re: Have epogen for Fu - what to do next?

2006-01-07 Thread Belinda Sauro
Hi Bonnie, I also got my epogen and made an appointment with my vet to discuss it to make sure I knew exactly how to do it. I also waited and gave it with enought time to run him to the vet if there was any kind of reaction. Antibodies wouldn't form that quickly but there is a rare

Re: Have epogen for Fu - what to do next? (on death and dying)

2006-01-07 Thread Lernermichelle
I know. Every time someone on the list has lymphoma or anemia, I think I need to get off the list because it depresses me so much. But I learn so much from the group, and it helped so much to have people there for me when I went through it with Simon, that I just can't. Michelle P.S. And I

Re: Have epogen for Fu - what to do next?

2006-01-07 Thread Lernermichelle
HI, Belinda. Yes, fluids do thin the blood and worsen the effects of anemia. They are still necessary sometimes, though, if they are not drinking, though if he has no kidney or liver problems and you are syringing food he probably can do without fluids for a few days, I would think. Have

Re: Have epogen for Fu - what to do next?

2006-01-07 Thread Belinda Sauro
Hi Michelle, What is the full name dex, I will call and ask her about it, I can run down and pick it up if she OK's it? -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV

Re: Have epogen for Fu - what to do next?

2006-01-07 Thread Lernermichelle
Dexamethasone. It does come in pills, but the shots work faster and better in my opinion, though harder to keep them on long-term. The shots can be given sub-q, so if your vet will give you the shot you can give it to Fu yourself. It is possible she will only be willing to send you home

Re: cost of epogen/transfusion?

2006-01-06 Thread Lernermichelle
Bonnie, Ask your vet about giving him a dexamethasone shot. It really makes them feel better, even when they are really sick. And sometimes helps with anemia. It may be contraindicated because of his kidney and thyroid problems, though, I don't know. Michelle In a message dated 1/5/2006

Re: cost of epogen/transfusion?

2006-01-06 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
, January 6, 2006 10:16 am Subject: Re: cost of epogen/transfusion? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Bonnie, Ask your vet about giving him a dexamethasone shot. It really makes them feel better, even when they are really sick. And sometimes helps with anemia. It may be contraindicated

Have epogen for Fu - what to do next?

2006-01-06 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
I picked up a vial of Epogen for Fu tonight. The vet explained how to give it to him over the phone and the pharmacist was also very nice and spent some time showing me how to go about it. My question is...is it possible for there to be an immediate bad reaction? If so, I'll wait until morning

Re: Have epogen for Fu - what to do next?

2006-01-06 Thread Lernermichelle
I think, but am not positive, that it normally takes months for an adverse reaction to occur. But I would be afraid that any medicine could have an adverse reaction on Fu, given his age and condition. However, Epogen also takes a while to show any good effects, and Fu is already doing so

Re: Have epogen for Fu - what to do next? (on death and dying)

2006-01-06 Thread Nina
for an adverse reaction to occur. But I would be afraid that any medicine could have an adverse reaction on Fu, given his age and condition. However, Epogen also takes a while to show any good effects, and Fu is already doing so poorly, that a part of me thinks you should just give it to him now

Re: cost of epogen/transfusion?

2006-01-05 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
into remission. The vet referred to this as anemia caused by chronic disease. Bonnie www.elephants.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, January 5, 2006 8:07 pm Subject: Re: cost of epogen/transfusion? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org If you are wondering

Re: cost of epogen/transfusion?

2006-01-05 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
liver on hand that I'll cook up for him later. Bonnie www.elephants.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, January 5, 2006 5:45 pm Subject: Re: cost of epogen/transfusion? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org In my experience vets would not transfuse until

Re: cost of epogen/transfusion?

2006-01-05 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
In a message dated 1/5/2006 6:19:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How much does Epogen cost? My vet called one pharmacy; they told him they have to order it in units of ten, which would come to $350. I wonder if Fu could use a blood transfusion. His rbc is 15

Re: cost of epogen/transfusion?

2006-01-05 Thread PEC2851
Bonnie~ Have your vet set up an account with PVPL (Professional Veterinary Products, Ltd.). It is a veterinary supplier, like a co-op, and they are offering a 30 day trial period. When I did all the ordering for the shelter, our main supplier was PVPL, and I ordered our Epogen (epoetin

Re: cost of epogen/transfusion?

2006-01-05 Thread PEC2851
Bonnie~ It sounds like maybe a transfusion would be beneficial for Fu right now With my feral girl who was on Epogen (she was dx.w/ CRF _ I basically took her home for hospice care cause no one at the shelter could touch her), after I found a vet willing to treat a terminally ill "

Re: Bailey is anemic - Wendy-- how epogen works

2006-01-04 Thread Lernermichelle
My understanding is that it is a synthetic version of a hormone that the kidneys normally excrete which tells the bone marrow to produce red blood cells. If the hormone is low, the bone marrow stops producing. The epogen replaces the hormone and sends a signal to the bone marrow to start

Re: More On Epogen (Procrit)

2005-03-09 Thread Belinda Sauro
In a later email she said in reality even though vets say the antibodies only developed in 30% of the cases. That means 70% of the cats never developed antibodies it is closer to 10% developing antibodies (and usually only after 3 or 4 months of use) and 90% never developing them according