Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-25 Thread dlgegg
vey...@hotmail.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 01:56:54 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors > > > > > > Yikes! I don't like those statistics at all but I believe it. > > > > I've been feeding

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-25 Thread dlgegg
gt; From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:50 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors > > > Regarding Amber - > > Been

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-24 Thread Jannes Taylor
".  Jannes From: Maureen Olvey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 1:49:42 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors Regarding Amber - Been doing more reading.  By keeping Amber in the basement you're not putting your cats at risk at all so don'

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-24 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
e. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 10:40 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors Just because your kid likes to

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-24 Thread Natalie
...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:50 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors Regarding Amber - Been doing more reading. By keeping Amber in the basement you're not putting your cats at risk at all so don&#

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread Maureen Olvey
-0700 > From: jannestay...@yahoo.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors > > I use to have indoor/outdoor cats, but now they are strickly indoor. There > are > so many dangers outside such as cars, dogs, and the chance of encountering a

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread Maureen Olvey
> From: molvey...@hotmail.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 01:56:54 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors > > > Yikes! I don't like those statistics at all but I believe it. > > I've been feeding ferals at my

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread Maureen Olvey
on of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:24:10 -0700 > From: hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors > > Maureen - I am in GA also, and analysis of coyote stomach co

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread LauraM
cat goes missing and they just replace it with another one. --- On Wed, 3/23/11, Maureen Olvey wrote: From: Maureen Olvey Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 3:58 AM You can also take it further and reiterate that human

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
I guess the birds should have stayed dinosaurs, then... ;-) From: LauraM [mailto:hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tue 3/22/2011 7:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors Yes, the number one cause of bird extinction is

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread Christiane Biagi
LOL -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 12:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors Our shelter has an indoor only policy. The cat can go out if

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread Beth
lled by irresponsible people letting their dogs loose. Not to mention the ones which have gotten run over. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   --- On Wed, 3/23/11, Natalie wrote: From: Natalie Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors To: felvtalk@felineleukemia

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread Natalie
Of Edna Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:40 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors Just because your kid likes to eat McDonald's every day or binge drink or do drugs because it makes them happy is NOT a reason to allow it. The same reasoning goes fo

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread Edna Taylor
na > Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 09:13:09 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors > > As an adopter, my views on this are very strict and well-defined - I am > responsible for placing cats in the safest possible homes, and

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread Jannes Taylor
d, but for fun and the reflex of chasing something (could be a toy).  -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvt

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread Natalie
(could be a toy). -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors This is a hot topic, but I agree humans and

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread Natalie
lvey Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 3:38 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors >From that study in CA, the American Bird Conservancy was saying that the answer was to trap and kill the cats. That's the part that really irritated me. Yeah, cats kille

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread Lorrie
This is a hot topic, but I agree humans and loss of habitat are the main threat to birds. As for keeping cats inside. I've had cats all my life and they have always been indoor/outdoor cats. All of them have lived to 16 to 17 years of age unless they've had some genetic problem like heart disea

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread Maureen Olvey
cglobal.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors > > LOL Humans are a non-native, introduced and subsidized predators. > This is like expecting pet owners to spay or neuter their pets, interesting > idea, one which I would love to see, but seeing

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread Maureen Olvey
n > Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:56:46 -0700 > From: hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors > > Yes, the number one cause of bird extinction is habitat loss, but cats are #2. > There's a well-known study t

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Natalie
: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors All too true. In Milwaukee, once, I saw a terrified wolf on the downtown expressway being chased down by law enforcement (I think that ended badly for the wolf :-() And all along my former bus route between Milwaukee and Racine you can see deer and wolves in the

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Natalie
: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors My crazy Fuji just wants to make friends with them. She brought us a bird that fell out of a nest once. She brought another one, and then let it go (alive) when it was time to come in. I have caught her a few times with the hamster

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Sally Davis
It is true... Loss of habitat is number one. Thanks for bringing it up. Sally On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:36 PM, SomeWhere Sam wrote: > Sorry but that information is outdated or biased. > > The number one killer of birds is humans due to habitat loss or > construction for > same. > > Humans: The

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread SomeWhere Sam
From: LauraM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 6:42:23 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors I've tried using those statistics on people who refuse to contain their cats, thinking they MIGHT care about wildlife even though they clearly a

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread MaiMaiPG
post. I'm a big-time cat lover (just ask my four furry housemates) AND a big-time bird lover. And never the twain shall meet! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Diane Rosenfeldt" > To: Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoor

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Bonnie Hogue
enfeldt" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors All too true. In Milwaukee, once, I saw a terrified wolf on the downtown expressway being chased down by law enforcement (I think that ended badly for the wolf :-() And all along my former bus ro

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
ndoors for their well-being. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of SomeWhere Sam Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 3:36 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors Sorr

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Melinda Kerr
> Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:56:46 > To: > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors > > Yes, the number one cause of bird extinction is habitat loss, but cats are #2. > There's a well-k

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread MaiMaiPG
the birds seem smart enough to stay out of my yard. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: LauraM Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:56:46 To: Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors Y

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread create_me_new
t this is natural predation & so things are kept in balance. Throw in a highly efficient predator such as a cat and the balance changes. --- On Tue, 3/22/11, SomeWhere Sam wrote: From: SomeWhere Sam Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, Marc

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread LauraM
tural predation & so things are kept in balance. Throw in a highly efficient predator such as a cat and the balance changes. --- On Tue, 3/22/11, SomeWhere Sam wrote: From: SomeWhere Sam Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 4:36 P

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread LauraM
I've tried using those statistics on people who refuse to contain their cats, thinking they MIGHT care about wildlife even though they clearly aren't concerned with their cats' own safety. Hasn't worked. There are also people out there who want irresponsible owners of bird-killing cats to be hel

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread SomeWhere Sam
. Compared to those numbers cats are trivial. SomeWhere Sam From: Christiane Biagi To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 4:03:06 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors Actually, the leading killers are glass windows...particularly taller

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Edna Taylor
I was thinking the same thing > Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 13:36:23 -0700 > From: sin...@sbcglobal.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors > > Sorry but that information is outdated or biased. > > The number one killer of birds

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Maureen Olvey
> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 17:03:06 -0400 > From: ti...@mindspring.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors > > Actually, the leading killers are glass windows...particularly taller > structures &.car winfshields. But cats are t

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Christiane Biagi
Actually, the leading killers are glass windows...particularly taller structures &.car winfshields. But cats are the only bird predators in urban aareas, so they of course would be the largest killer of birds. There are other natural predators in rural areas...including other birds like owls, ha

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Agreed, 100%... But keeping cats indoors will have the double benefit of saving the cat from disaster and reducing bird kills. ~B. - Original Message - From: "TANYA NOE" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors I was just go

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread MaiMaiPG
Plus indiscriminate use of poisons in the landscapeeverything has to be sooo vvverrryyy neat. On Mar 22, 2011, at 3:47 PM, TANYA NOE wrote: I was just going to say that Sam! --- On Tue, 3/22/11, SomeWhere Sam wrote: From: SomeWhere Sam Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors To

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Debbie Bates
Thanks Sam!! You rock! Debbie ~ When the world says, "Give up," hope whispers, "Try it one more time" ~ > Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 13:36:23 -0700 > From: sin...@sbcglobal.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors &g

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Heather
Me three... On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:47 PM, TANYA NOE wrote: > I was just going to say that Sam! > > --- On Tue, 3/22/11, SomeWhere Sam wrote: > > > From: SomeWhere Sam > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Da

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread TANYA NOE
I was just going to say that Sam! --- On Tue, 3/22/11, SomeWhere Sam wrote: > From: SomeWhere Sam > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 4:36 PM > Sorry but that information is > outdated or biased.  &

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread SomeWhere Sam
Sorry but that information is outdated or biased. The number one killer of birds is humans due to habitat loss or construction for same. Humans: The Number One Threat to Birds http://www.alleycat.org/NetCommunity/Page.aspx?pid=325 SomeWhere Sam From: Bonn

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Natalie
Amen to that! Whenever the cat that we brought back from England got out by accident (not by us), she'd be back in five minutes flat with a bird in her mouth! In addition, about 50% of migrating birds from South America also die by the time they get here I love the idea of wind power, but the d