Angela and Midnight

2007-08-21 Thread glenda Goodman
Angela, 
My heart goes out to you. I am so sorry for your loss
of Midnight, for you and your family. 
Now, we must all hope for the best for your other
kitties. I can imagine how scared you are for them.
You maybe should believe this virus, I'm believing
FeLV, came from a source more recently, that only
affected Midnight. Remember too, all the reports of
how healthy cats, if exposed, can throw the virus...If
your other cats were vaccinated your chances are very
good everyone will be all right. The vaccine is open
to debate though and thought to be 75%-85%
effective...I had read where the more recent improved
vaccines are a bit better yet.
Now is when people that have been in this a long time
and are very active and experienced with cats need to
tell come to your aid.  
Myself, I am still learning every day here. 
I am confused as to what is the better circumstance to
be in, having a kitty that contracted the FeLV virus
through the mother or having a kitten or adult cat 
just exposed to the virus? I do know the adult cats 
have a better chance of throwing the virus, than an
exposed kitten. What really got me confused is my vet
acted rather hopeful  about kittens that contracted
the  FeLV virus through the mother. Like there is  a
good chance to kick it... I think throwing FIV coming
through the mom is a lot easier than FeLV coming
through the mom. Maybe she got the two confused?  Then
I see people saying,with  just exposure there is  a
good chance of defeating the virus...Anyway, no matter
what, there is always hope...I think we all live on
hope every day to get us through to the next day. 
Your letter really moved me. It was short, but so
laced with your pain...I know we all know that awful
feeling...You will find a lot of very loving and
helpful people here... Be strong! 
Glenda 


   

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Re: Vet wants to put Midnight down?

2007-03-27 Thread Marylyn
Find an animal communicator and ask Midnight his opinion.  After all, wouldn't 
you want to be consulted?  I'm not being flip and I truly understand your 
confusion and pain.  I've been there too many times as has most people on this 
list.   If you can't/don't find an ac find a very quiet room and sit there with 
Midnight with no distractions just heart talk.  You can talk to him yourself.  
It is just that you are going to be very unsure of your answers given the 
newness of Midnight in your life and the seriousness of the issues.





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  - Original Message - 
  From: Susan Hoffman 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 12:58 PM
  Subject: Re: Vet wants to put Midnight down?


  Did your vet do bloodwork?  What were the results?  And do you truly trust 
this vet?

  Is Midnight eating, responding to petting?  How much water is he drinking?

  Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My vet says that the reason Midnight isn't responding to the antibiotics 
or the Feliway (he still pees not sprays everywhere) is because he is in 
renal failure. My vet is all for helping animals but says this is a one 
way street and there is pain and suffering at the end of the street. He 
suggests we say our goodbyes and put him down. I do not have a clue 
what to do or how to respond to this. We have only had him since the 
week after Christmas when he found us. Any suggestions?
Jennifer







Re: Vet wants to put Midnight down?

2007-03-27 Thread Susan Hoffman
heart talk -- I've never heard a better description.  Thank you for giving me 
new language to describe something I know only intuitively.

Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Find an animal communicator and ask 
Midnight his opinion.  After all, wouldn't you want to be consulted?  I'm not 
being flip and I truly understand your confusion and pain.  I've been there too 
many times as has most people on this list.   If you can't/don't find an ac 
find a very quiet room and sit there with Midnight with no distractions just 
heart talk.  You can talk to him yourself.  It is just that you are going to be 
very unsure of your answers given the newness of Midnight in your life and the 
seriousness of the issues.
   
   
   
   
   
   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
- Original Message - 
  From: Susan Hoffman 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 12:58 PM
  Subject: Re: Vet wants to put Midnight down?
  

  Did your vet do bloodwork?  What were the results?  And do you truly trust 
this vet?
   
  Is Midnight eating, responding to petting?  How much water is he drinking?

Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My vet says that the reason Midnight isn't responding to the antibiotics 
or the Feliway (he still pees not sprays everywhere) is because he is in 
renal failure. My vet is all for helping animals but says this is a one 
way street and there is pain and suffering at the end of the street. He 
suggests we say our goodbyes and put him down. I do not have a clue 
what to do or how to respond to this. We have only had him since the 
week after Christmas when he found us. Any suggestions?
Jennifer







Vet wants to put Midnight down?

2007-03-26 Thread Jennifer Madon
My vet says that the reason Midnight isn't responding to the antibiotics 
or the Feliway (he still pees not sprays everywhere) is because he is in 
renal failure.  My vet is all for helping animals but says this is a one 
way street and there is pain and suffering at the end of the street.  He 
suggests we say our goodbyes and put him down.  I do not have a clue 
what to do or how to respond to this.  We have only had him since the 
week after Christmas when he found us. Any suggestions?

Jennifer





Re: Vet wants to put Midnight down?

2007-03-26 Thread Susan Hoffman
Did your vet do bloodwork?  What were the results?  And do you truly trust this 
vet?
   
  Is Midnight eating, responding to petting?  How much water is he drinking?

Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My vet says that the reason Midnight isn't responding to the antibiotics 
or the Feliway (he still pees not sprays everywhere) is because he is in 
renal failure. My vet is all for helping animals but says this is a one 
way street and there is pain and suffering at the end of the street. He 
suggests we say our goodbyes and put him down. I do not have a clue 
what to do or how to respond to this. We have only had him since the 
week after Christmas when he found us. Any suggestions?
Jennifer






Re: Vet wants to put Midnight down?

2007-03-26 Thread Kelley Saveika

I would be wary of this diagnosis unless he has done a LOT of tests.  I have
two that are peeing everywhere and it is strictly behavioral.  They are on
Elavil, which helps a lot with the spraying.

On 3/26/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Did your vet do bloodwork?  What were the results?  And do you truly trust
this vet?

Is Midnight eating, responding to petting?  How much water is he drinking?


*Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

My vet says that the reason Midnight isn't responding to the antibiotics
or the Feliway (he still pees not sprays everywhere) is because he is in
renal failure. My vet is all for helping animals but says this is a one
way street and there is pain and suffering at the end of the street. He
suggests we say our goodbyes and put him down. I do not have a clue
what to do or how to respond to this. We have only had him since the
week after Christmas when he found us. Any suggestions?
Jennifer








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Re: Vet wants to put Midnight down?

2007-03-26 Thread Kelly L

At 10:56 AM 3/26/2007, you wrote:


No No No Please rethink, my kitty in CRF did pee all over, he was 
getting so much fluids, and he was an old tomif he is eating and 
comfortable and happy...He made need to have is roaming area 
curtailed, but there are s many options, If the PTS is for 
convenience so there is no pee on the floor that is a different 
issue, but it sounds like a convenient thing rather than health thing,

my CRF cat was happy for 3 years after diagnosis,
How can we help??
Kelly


My vet says that the reason Midnight isn't responding to the 
antibiotics or the Feliway (he still pees not sprays everywhere) is 
because he is in renal failure.  My vet is all for helping animals 
but says this is a one way street and there is pain and suffering at 
the end of the street.  He suggests we say our goodbyes and put him 
down.  I do not have a clue what to do or how to respond to 
this.  We have only had him since the week after Christmas when he 
found us. Any suggestions?

Jennifer





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Re: Vet wants to put Midnight down?

2007-03-26 Thread wendy
Jennifer, 

I have a CRF kitty who will be 18 in June.  She pees A
LOT.  Is Midnight peeing a lot?  Is he drinking a lot?
 Do you have his kidney values?  What are they?  I
would ask a lot of questions before you pts.  Julie
has been CRF for over a year, and she really isn't
being treated for it because we're treating her for
hyperT, and besides, I don't think there's a lot you
can do for CRF other than diet.  Someone please
correct me here if I'm wrong.  Julie is happy and
purring and enjoying life even though she goes to the
bathroom a lot and we go through litter like water.  I
have to keep her box really clean or she will go
elsewhere, and sometimes still does, but not often. 
How old is this boy?  Renal failure usually happens to
CRF kitties who are elderly, or to cats who are sick
from something else that's shutting down their organs.
 Which does Midnight fall under?

:)
Wendy

--- Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 10:56 AM 3/26/2007, you wrote:
 
 
 No No No Please rethink, my kitty in CRF did pee all
 over, he was 
 getting so much fluids, and he was an old tomif
 he is eating and 
 comfortable and happy...He made need to have is
 roaming area 
 curtailed, but there are s many options, If the
 PTS is for 
 convenience so there is no pee on the floor that is
 a different 
 issue, but it sounds like a convenient thing rather
 than health thing,
 my CRF cat was happy for 3 years after
 diagnosis,
 How can we help??
 Kelly
 
 
 My vet says that the reason Midnight isn't
 responding to the 
 antibiotics or the Feliway (he still pees not
 sprays everywhere) is 
 because he is in renal failure.  My vet is all for
 helping animals 
 but says this is a one way street and there is pain
 and suffering at 
 the end of the street.  He suggests we say our
 goodbyes and put him 
 down.  I do not have a clue what to do or how to
 respond to 
 this.  We have only had him since the week after
 Christmas when he 
 found us. Any suggestions?
 Jennifer
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Vet wants to put Midnight down?

2007-03-26 Thread Jennifer Madon
The vet did do some blood work.  I do not know the exact numbers, but I 
do know that after 3 rounds of antibiotics, the wbc in his urine are 
extremely high (those are the drs words).  I do trust Dr Proctor.  He is 
a great doc and a cot lover too :)
Midnight is eating, less but eating.  He always wants to be held.  I 
have not been measuring his water but he does drink.  I guess I should 
measure it.  I do know that over the last 3 to 4 days, I have not filled 
the bowl as often.


Susan Hoffman wrote:
Did your vet do bloodwork?  What were the results?  And do you truly 
trust this vet?
 
Is Midnight eating, responding to petting?  How much water is he drinking?


*/Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

My vet says that the reason Midnight isn't responding to the
antibiotics
or the Feliway (he still pees not sprays everywhere) is because he
is in
renal failure. My vet is all for helping animals but says this is
a one
way street and there is pain and suffering at the end of the
street. He
suggests we say our goodbyes and put him down. I do not have a clue
what to do or how to respond to this. We have only had him since the
week after Christmas when he found us. Any suggestions?
Jennifer






Re: Vet wants to put Midnight down?

2007-03-26 Thread Jennifer Madon
Well the pee is inconvenient but I would not pts for that reason.  Heck, 
my 3 years old has peed on the floor many times but I still have him 
LOL!  I just don't know much about this stuff and I don't want him to 
suffer.  I have noticed that if he pees on something non-absorbent (like 
my suitcase) and I don't catch it, it dries with salt looking crystals.  
I know I need help but I don't know what help I need.  I did try the 
comfort zone feliway stuff that this group recommended, I don't see much 
of a change but the dr said that was because of the renal failure.


Kelly L wrote:

At 10:56 AM 3/26/2007, you wrote:


No No No Please rethink, my kitty in CRF did pee all over, he was 
getting so much fluids, and he was an old tomif he is eating and 
comfortable and happy...He made need to have is roaming area 
curtailed, but there are s many options, If the PTS is for 
convenience so there is no pee on the floor that is a different issue, 
but it sounds like a convenient thing rather than health thing,

my CRF cat was happy for 3 years after diagnosis,
How can we help??
Kelly


My vet says that the reason Midnight isn't responding to the 
antibiotics or the Feliway (he still pees not sprays everywhere) is 
because he is in renal failure.  My vet is all for helping animals 
but says this is a one way street and there is pain and suffering at 
the end of the street.  He suggests we say our goodbyes and put him 
down.  I do not have a clue what to do or how to respond to this.  We 
have only had him since the week after Christmas when he found us. 
Any suggestions?

Jennifer





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Re: Vet wants to put Midnight down?

2007-03-26 Thread Jennifer Madon
Midnight is a stray that found us about 3 months ago.  Best guess by Dr 
is that he is about 11 or 12 months old.  So he is not elderly at all.  
I will try to change the litter type but the pee isn't the big issue.  
That is what took us to the Dr. but the renal failure is what brought me 
to this group.  I just don't want this boy to suffer.


wendy wrote:
Jennifer, 


I have a CRF kitty who will be 18 in June.  She pees A
LOT.  Is Midnight peeing a lot?  Is he drinking a lot?
 Do you have his kidney values?  What are they?  I
would ask a lot of questions before you pts.  Julie
has been CRF for over a year, and she really isn't
being treated for it because we're treating her for
hyperT, and besides, I don't think there's a lot you
can do for CRF other than diet.  Someone please
correct me here if I'm wrong.  Julie is happy and
purring and enjoying life even though she goes to the
bathroom a lot and we go through litter like water.  I
have to keep her box really clean or she will go
elsewhere, and sometimes still does, but not often. 
How old is this boy?  Renal failure usually happens to

CRF kitties who are elderly, or to cats who are sick
from something else that's shutting down their organs.
 Which does Midnight fall under?

:)
Wendy

--- Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

At 10:56 AM 3/26/2007, you wrote:


No No No Please rethink, my kitty in CRF did pee all
over, he was 
getting so much fluids, and he was an old tomif
he is eating and 
comfortable and happy...He made need to have is
roaming area 
curtailed, but there are s many options, If the
PTS is for 
convenience so there is no pee on the floor that is
a different 
issue, but it sounds like a convenient thing rather

than health thing,
my CRF cat was happy for 3 years after
diagnosis,
How can we help??
Kelly




My vet says that the reason Midnight isn't
  
responding to the 


antibiotics or the Feliway (he still pees not
  
sprays everywhere) is 


because he is in renal failure.  My vet is all for
  
helping animals 


but says this is a one way street and there is pain
  
and suffering at 


the end of the street.  He suggests we say our
  
goodbyes and put him 


down.  I do not have a clue what to do or how to
  
respond to 


this.  We have only had him since the week after
  
Christmas when he 


found us. Any suggestions?
Jennifer





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Re: Vet wants to put Midnight down?

2007-03-26 Thread wendy
If you have his bloodwork values, post them.  If you
don't, ask the vet if they'll fax them over or if you
can come pick up a copy.  We absolutely want to help
you, but need to know those kidney values first.  That
will tell you if he's in renal failure.  If you trust
this doc, then he's probably going off those numbers
for this diagnosis and he's probably right.  But post
them just in case.  Does the vet say what is causing
the renal failure, or is it just straight CRF (Chronic
renal failure).  Has he given your kitty any subQ
fluids?  If he's that bad, I would think he needs
them.  If he's CRF, I would strongly recommend you
join the yahoo CRF group for guidance.  They will know
all the symptoms and be able to help you better. 
Also, here's a link to the just diagnosed page of the
feline crf website, a great source of info.:

http://www.felinecrf.org/just_diagnosed.htm

Please keep us posted on Midnight.  Good luck!

:)
Wendy

--- Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Midnight is a stray that found us about 3 months
 ago.  Best guess by Dr 
 is that he is about 11 or 12 months old.  So he is
 not elderly at all.  
 I will try to change the litter type but the pee
 isn't the big issue.  
 That is what took us to the Dr. but the renal
 failure is what brought me 
 to this group.  I just don't want this boy to
 suffer.
 
 wendy wrote:
  Jennifer, 
 
  I have a CRF kitty who will be 18 in June.  She
 pees A
  LOT.  Is Midnight peeing a lot?  Is he drinking a
 lot?
   Do you have his kidney values?  What are they?  I
  would ask a lot of questions before you pts. 
 Julie
  has been CRF for over a year, and she really isn't
  being treated for it because we're treating her
 for
  hyperT, and besides, I don't think there's a lot
 you
  can do for CRF other than diet.  Someone please
  correct me here if I'm wrong.  Julie is happy and
  purring and enjoying life even though she goes to
 the
  bathroom a lot and we go through litter like
 water.  I
  have to keep her box really clean or she will go
  elsewhere, and sometimes still does, but not
 often. 
  How old is this boy?  Renal failure usually
 happens to
  CRF kitties who are elderly, or to cats who are
 sick
  from something else that's shutting down their
 organs.
   Which does Midnight fall under?
 
  :)
  Wendy
 
  --- Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

  At 10:56 AM 3/26/2007, you wrote:
 
 
  No No No Please rethink, my kitty in CRF did pee
 all
  over, he was 
  getting so much fluids, and he was an old
 tomif
  he is eating and 
  comfortable and happy...He made need to have is
  roaming area 
  curtailed, but there are s many options, If
 the
  PTS is for 
  convenience so there is no pee on the floor that
 is
  a different 
  issue, but it sounds like a convenient thing
 rather
  than health thing,
  my CRF cat was happy for 3 years after
  diagnosis,
  How can we help??
  Kelly
 
 
  
  My vet says that the reason Midnight isn't

  responding to the 
  
  antibiotics or the Feliway (he still pees not

  sprays everywhere) is 
  
  because he is in renal failure.  My vet is all
 for

  helping animals 
  
  but says this is a one way street and there is
 pain

  and suffering at 
  
  the end of the street.  He suggests we say our

  goodbyes and put him 
  
  down.  I do not have a clue what to do or how to

  respond to 
  
  this.  We have only had him since the week after

  Christmas when he 
  
  found us. Any suggestions?
  Jennifer
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Vet wants to put Midnight down?

2007-03-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CRF (chronic renal failure) in cats is very treatable, unless it's extremely
advanced. I would get a second opinion, and maybe a third one too. Check out my 
CRF
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Re: Vet wants to put Midnight down?

2007-03-26 Thread Nina
I feel almost foolish asking such an obvious question right now, but 
what has Midnight been eating??  You must have considered the 
possibility that he's been eating tainted Menu Foods products by now, right?

Nina

Jennifer Madon wrote:
Midnight is a stray that found us about 3 months ago.  Best guess by 
Dr is that he is about 11 or 12 months old.  So he is not elderly at 
all.  I will try to change the litter type but the pee isn't the big 
issue.  That is what took us to the Dr. but the renal failure is what 
brought me to this group.  I just don't want this boy to suffer.





Re: Vet wants to put Midnight down?

2007-03-26 Thread Jennifer Madon
Well, the latest food has been Purina Cat Chow.  I didn't check on it 
because he eats dry food.  I haven't even followed the recall since I 
heard it is in wet food.  Should I worry?


Nina wrote:
I feel almost foolish asking such an obvious question right now, but 
what has Midnight been eating??  You must have considered the 
possibility that he's been eating tainted Menu Foods products by now, 
right?

Nina

Jennifer Madon wrote:
Midnight is a stray that found us about 3 months ago.  Best guess by 
Dr is that he is about 11 or 12 months old.  So he is not elderly at 
all.  I will try to change the litter type but the pee isn't the big 
issue.  That is what took us to the Dr. but the renal failure is what 
brought me to this group.  I just don't want this boy to suffer.








Re: Vet wants to put Midnight down?

2007-03-26 Thread Kelly L

At 04:19 PM 3/26/2007, you wrote:
do not think so



Well, the latest food has been Purina Cat Chow.  I didn't check on 
it because he eats dry food.  I haven't even followed the recall 
since I heard it is in wet food.  Should I worry?


Nina wrote:
I feel almost foolish asking such an obvious question right now, 
but what has Midnight been eating??  You must have considered the 
possibility that he's been eating tainted Menu Foods products by now, right?

Nina

Jennifer Madon wrote:
Midnight is a stray that found us about 3 months ago.  Best guess 
by Dr is that he is about 11 or 12 months old.  So he is not 
elderly at all.  I will try to change the litter type but the pee 
isn't the big issue.  That is what took us to the Dr. but the 
renal failure is what brought me to this group.  I just don't want 
this boy to suffer.







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Re: Vet wants to put Midnight down?

2007-03-26 Thread Belinda

Jennifer,
  What are Midnight's numbers, in particular these:

Creatinine, BUN, Potassium, Phosphorus, HCT or PVC.  My Fred is a kidney 
failure cat and there are different stages, with daily fluids, 
phosphorus binders and potassium supplements Fred's gotten better.  Now 
if we can just get rid of this infection we'd be AOK!!


I really take offense at what your vet suggested, is Midnight not 
eating, vomiting, does he have no interest in life?  Why would your vet 
make such a suggestion?  Many CRF (Chronic Renal Failure) kitties do 
very well with treatment.


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Re: Vet wants to put Midnight down?

2007-03-26 Thread Belinda
 PS.  He probably isn't getting the right antibiotic, what is he 
getting and why is he getting them?


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Re: Vet wants to put Midnight down?

2007-03-26 Thread Belinda
   There is plenty you can do for kitties with CRF, diet, fluids and 
supplements for low potassium (most CRF kitties will eventually get low 
because they lose so much through their urine), aluminum phosphorus 
binders, because they will eventually have their phosphorus build up.  
Some kitties get pepcid for vomiting, some CRF kitties get tummy acid, 
epogen when their kidneys can no longer produce erythropoietin on their 
own.  Theres more but these are just the thing we are dealing with or 
will be dealing with in the near future.


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Re: Vet wants to put Midnight down?

2007-03-26 Thread Kelly L

At 10:45 PM 3/26/2007, you wrote:


I always added potassium to the fluid and used phosphorus 
binders,,,He had a great 3 more years and he was over 20

Kelly


   There is plenty you can do for kitties with CRF, diet, fluids 
and supplements for low potassium (most CRF kitties will eventually 
get low because they lose so much through their urine), aluminum 
phosphorus binders, because they will eventually have their 
phosphorus build up.
Some kitties get pepcid for vomiting, some CRF kitties get tummy 
acid, epogen when their kidneys can no longer produce erythropoietin 
on their own.  Theres more but these are just the thing we are 
dealing with or will be dealing with in the near future.


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Midnight still peeing

2007-02-14 Thread Jennifer Madon


Ok, Midnight has been fixed and is done with his antibiotics for the 
UTI.  He is still peeing but only on my 5 year old comforter.  My son is 
in pull ups at night.  Is it possible that he is trying to mark over the 
scent of my son?
That is the only thing I can think of.  I am keeping the door closed 
and  not letting midnight in that room.

Thanks in advance!
Jennifer



Re: Midnight still peeing

2007-02-14 Thread Marylyn
How long has he been on antibiotics?  I would have that rechecked.  I have 
had cats run the antibiotics course and still have UTI problems--wrong 
antibiotic, more than one bacteria causing the problems etc.  I would also 
spray my son's bed and my comforter with Feliway.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
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Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:09 PM
Subject: Midnight still peeing




Ok, Midnight has been fixed and is done with his antibiotics for the UTI. 
He is still peeing but only on my 5 year old comforter.  My son is in pull 
ups at night.  Is it possible that he is trying to mark over the scent of 
my son?
That is the only thing I can think of.  I am keeping the door closed and 
not letting midnight in that room.

Thanks in advance!
Jennifer






Re: Midnight still peeing

2007-02-14 Thread elizabeth trent

Jennifer,
It can take a couple of months to get the hormones out of their system after
a neuter...

elizabeth


On 2/14/07, Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Ok, Midnight has been fixed and is done with his antibiotics for the
UTI.  He is still peeing but only on my 5 year old comforter.  My son is
in pull ups at night.  Is it possible that he is trying to mark over the
scent of my son?
That is the only thing I can think of.  I am keeping the door closed
and  not letting midnight in that room.
Thanks in advance!
Jennifer




Re: Midnight still peeing

2007-02-14 Thread G. Lane
Hmm - possible he's still smelling the pee on the comforter.  Might 
try something to deorderize it, and try Cat Attract cat litter in the 
litter box.


Gloria


At 03:09 PM 2/14/2007, you wrote:

Ok, Midnight has been fixed and is done with his antibiotics for the 
UTI.  He is still peeing but only on my 5 year old comforter.  My 
son is in pull ups at night.  Is it possible that he is trying to 
mark over the scent of my son?
That is the only thing I can think of.  I am keeping the door closed 
and  not letting midnight in that room.

Thanks in advance!
Jennifer






Re: Midnight still peeing

2007-02-14 Thread G. Lane
Hmm - possible he's still smelling the pee on the comforter.  Might 
try something to deorderize it, and try Cat Attract cat litter in the 
litter box.


Gloria


At 03:09 PM 2/14/2007, you wrote:

Ok, Midnight has been fixed and is done with his antibiotics for the 
UTI.  He is still peeing but only on my 5 year old comforter.  My 
son is in pull ups at night.  Is it possible that he is trying to 
mark over the scent of my son?
That is the only thing I can think of.  I am keeping the door closed 
and  not letting midnight in that room.

Thanks in advance!
Jennifer






Re: Midnight still peeing

2007-02-14 Thread Kelley Saveika

As others have said, he may still have a UTI.  He may not have gotten enough
or the right antibiotics the first time.

My last uti cat started out on amoxicillin, had another urinalysis, still
had bacteria.  Went on something else (don't remember what), another
urinalysis, still had bacteria.  Sent a culture out for further analysis,
nothing grew.  We decided it was probably behavioral at that point, he's on
elavil now, really hoping it works.

*This does not always happen, I think this kitty is upset because I do
rescue and have lots of cats in the house.  But, sometimes they need more
antibiotics after the first round.


On 2/14/07, Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Ok, Midnight has been fixed and is done with his antibiotics for the
UTI.  He is still peeing but only on my 5 year old comforter.  My son is
in pull ups at night.  Is it possible that he is trying to mark over the
scent of my son?
That is the only thing I can think of.  I am keeping the door closed
and  not letting midnight in that room.
Thanks in advance!
Jennifer





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Midnight again

2007-02-07 Thread Jennifer Madon


AAAGGG!  I am sitting here and Midnight has started puking! He is 
still on his antibiotic for the UTI/possible renal failure.  I don't 
know if he ate something or if he is sick.  He just puked on the floor 
and jumped up in my spare office chair and went to sleep

Jennifer
  




Re: Midnight again

2007-02-07 Thread Nina
Let's just hope it's nothing more than messy.  Two things you can count 
on with cats, they kill birds and they throw up!  What does the vomit 
look like?  Is there a nasty hair ball in the middle of it, or does it 
look like mostly undigested food?  It's probably nothing, don't worry 
unless there's blood in it, or if it keeps happening.

N

Jennifer Madon wrote:


AAAGGG!  I am sitting here and Midnight has started puking! He is 
still on his antibiotic for the UTI/possible renal failure.  I don't 
know if he ate something or if he is sick.  He just puked on the floor 
and jumped up in my spare office chair and went to sleep

Jennifer
  









Re: Midnight again

2007-02-07 Thread Marylyn
There are some antibiotics that make me throw up too.  Relax.  Keep a close 
eye on him though.  A cat that does not throw up some is just not normal.







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exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: Midnight again


Let's just hope it's nothing more than messy.  Two things you can count on 
with cats, they kill birds and they throw up!  What does the vomit look 
like?  Is there a nasty hair ball in the middle of it, or does it look 
like mostly undigested food?  It's probably nothing, don't worry unless 
there's blood in it, or if it keeps happening.

N

Jennifer Madon wrote:


AAAGGG!  I am sitting here and Midnight has started puking! He is 
still on his antibiotic for the UTI/possible renal failure.  I don't know 
if he ate something or if he is sick.  He just puked on the floor and 
jumped up in my spare office chair and went to sleep

Jennifer














Re: midnight

2007-01-30 Thread Jennifer Madon
I just called to check on Midnight and they said he is waking up right 
now from the neuter.  He did great.  They checked his urine and the 
receptionist said she thought there were white blood cells in the 
urine.  I gave the vet permission to do a blood test to check is liver.  
Any thoughts on this?

Jennifer

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Just make sure it's a NON-adjuvanted rabies and distemper vaccine, and that the
distemper is not a combo vaccine that has Chlamydophila (also known as:
Chlamydiosis, Chlamydia psittaci) in it, as it's an unnecessary vaccine with 
common
side effects and very little benefit. Ask for Merial's PUREVAX rabies:
http://merialusa.naccvp.com/view.php?prodnum=058 and Heska's Feline 
ULTRANASAL
FVRCP: http://www.heska.com/ultranasal/pr_info.asp

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Re: midnight

2007-01-30 Thread wendy
White blood cells in the urine usually indicate
bacteria is present, thus a UTI.  Curing this will
most likely help with the peeing everywhere.  Make
sure they give you antibiotics to cure the UTI if the
vet says that's what it is.

:)
Wendy

--- Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just called to check on Midnight and they said he
 is waking up right 
 now from the neuter.  He did great.  They checked
 his urine and the 
 receptionist said she thought there were white blood
 cells in the 
 urine.  I gave the vet permission to do a blood test
 to check is liver.  
 Any thoughts on this?
 Jennifer
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Just make sure it's a NON-adjuvanted rabies and
 distemper vaccine, and that the
  distemper is not a combo vaccine that has
 Chlamydophila (also known as:
  Chlamydiosis, Chlamydia psittaci) in it, as it's
 an unnecessary vaccine with common
  side effects and very little benefit. Ask for
 Merial's PUREVAX rabies:
 
 http://merialusa.naccvp.com/view.php?prodnum=058
 and Heska's Feline ULTRANASAL
  FVRCP: http://www.heska.com/ultranasal/pr_info.asp
 
  Here's more about what adjuvants are:
 http://www.tahealth.net/vas.html
 
 
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Re: midnight

2007-01-30 Thread Jennifer Madon
WOO HOO  because he peed on my husband in bed this morning.  I thought 
he was going to kick me and Midnight out of the house!  Instead he said, 
take your cat and get out of bed!  He is a grump in the middle of the 
night.  Then again, cat pee isn't pleasant to wake up to!


wendy wrote:

White blood cells in the urine usually indicate
bacteria is present, thus a UTI.  Curing this will
most likely help with the peeing everywhere.  Make
sure they give you antibiotics to cure the UTI if the
vet says that's what it is.

:)
Wendy

--- Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

I just called to check on Midnight and they said he
is waking up right 
now from the neuter.  He did great.  They checked
his urine and the 
receptionist said she thought there were white blood
cells in the 
urine.  I gave the vet permission to do a blood test
to check is liver.  
Any thoughts on this?

Jennifer

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Just make sure it's a NON-adjuvanted rabies and
  

distemper vaccine, and that the


distemper is not a combo vaccine that has
  

Chlamydophila (also known as:


Chlamydiosis, Chlamydia psittaci) in it, as it's
  

an unnecessary vaccine with common


side effects and very little benefit. Ask for
  

Merial's PUREVAX rabies:

http://merialusa.naccvp.com/view.php?prodnum=058

and Heska's Feline ULTRANASAL


FVRCP: http://www.heska.com/ultranasal/pr_info.asp

Here's more about what adjuvants are:
  

http://www.tahealth.net/vas.html


Phaewryn

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RE: midnight

2007-01-30 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
LOL!! Oh honey, GANDHI would have tossed the two of you out of bed under
the same circumstances...not that Gandhi would have found himself in the
same circumstances...
 
Here's hoping that the UTI clears up before your domestic bliss is
totally shattered!
 
Diane R.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Madon
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: midnight


WOO HOO  because he peed on my husband in bed this morning.  I thought
he was going to kick me and Midnight out of the house!  Instead he said,
take your cat and get out of bed!  He is a grump in the middle of the
night.  Then again, cat pee isn't pleasant to wake up to!

wendy wrote: 

White blood cells in the urine usually indicate
bacteria is present, thus a UTI.  Curing this will
most likely help with the peeing everywhere.  Make
sure they give you antibiotics to cure the UTI if the
vet says that's what it is.

:)
Wendy

--- Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

  

I just called to check on Midnight and they said he
is waking up right 
now from the neuter.  He did great.  They checked
his urine and the 
receptionist said she thought there were white blood
cells in the 
urine.  I gave the vet permission to do a blood test
to check is liver.  
Any thoughts on this?
Jennifer

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Just make sure it's a NON-adjuvanted rabies and
  

distemper vaccine, and that the


distemper is not a combo vaccine that has
  

Chlamydophila (also known as:


Chlamydiosis, Chlamydia psittaci) in it, as it's
  

an unnecessary vaccine with common


side effects and very little benefit. Ask for
  

Merial's PUREVAX rabies:

http://merialusa.naccvp.com/view.php?prodnum=058
and Heska's Feline ULTRANASAL


FVRCP:
http://www.heska.com/ultranasal/pr_info.asp

Here's more about what adjuvants are:
  

http://www.tahealth.net/vas.html


Phaewryn

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Re: midnight

2007-01-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Probably a mind urinary tract infection... but they should probably send him 
home
with antibiotics from his neuter anyways, so that will take care of both 
things! Do
insist on the antibiotics... for a FELV+ cat, you really can't be too safe.

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Re: midnight

2007-01-30 Thread Barb Moermond
we can't forget that when they're showing symptoms of a UTI and they pull urine 
for analysis, that a gram ID and sensitivity test has to be done in order to 
identify the buggy that is the culprit so they can give the correct abx.

 
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- Original Message 
From: Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:05:59 PM
Subject: Re: midnight

WOO HOO  because he peed on my husband in bed this morning.  I thought he was 
going to kick me and Midnight out of the house!  Instead he said, take your cat 
and get out of bed!  He is a grump in the middle of the night.  Then again, cat 
pee isn't pleasant to wake up to!

wendy wrote: 
White blood cells in the urine usually indicate
bacteria is present, thus a UTI.  Curing this will
most likely help with the peeing everywhere.  Make
sure they give you antibiotics to cure the UTI if the
vet says that's what it is.

:)
Wendy

--- Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
I just called to check on Midnight and they said he
is waking up right 
now from the neuter.  He did great.  They checked
his urine and the 
receptionist said she thought there were white blood
cells in the 
urine.  I gave the vet permission to do a blood test
to check is liver.  
Any thoughts on this?
Jennifer

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Just make sure it's a NON-adjuvanted rabies and
  
distemper vaccine, and that the

distemper is not a combo vaccine that has
  
Chlamydophila (also known as:

Chlamydiosis, Chlamydia psittaci) in it, as it's
  
an unnecessary vaccine with common

side effects and very little benefit. Ask for
  
Merial's PUREVAX rabies:

http://merialusa.naccvp.com/view.php?prodnum=058
and Heska's Feline ULTRANASAL

FVRCP: http://www.heska.com/ultranasal/pr_info.asp

Here's more about what adjuvants are:
  
http://www.tahealth.net/vas.html

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Re: midnight

2007-01-30 Thread Jennifer Madon
Well I am at work and Midnight is with me.  They said that he may have a uti 
and gave me anti-biotics.  The dr was concerned enough to run a blood panel.  
He said that I need to bring him back in 1 week for another urinalysis to make 
sure that is was a uti and not the beginning of kidney failure.  I think this 
was due to the number of white blood cells.  They also did not vaccinate him.  
The receptionist had told me that all cats are required to have rabies and 
distemper to be in the clinic.  The dr. say he was FeLV + and said no vaccies.  
YEAH.  I will update any more that I think of when I get home!  Thanks for the 
prayers!
Jennifer and Midnight


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Sent: Jan 30, 2007 3:09 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: midnight

Probably a mind urinary tract infection... but they should probably send him 
home
with antibiotics from his neuter anyways, so that will take care of both 
things! Do
insist on the antibiotics... for a FELV+ cat, you really can't be too safe.

Phaewryn

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Midnight is scheduled

2007-01-29 Thread Jennifer Madon


Well I just wanted to let everyone know that after a stinky weekend of pee, Midnight will be going to the Dr. tomorrow (tuesday) morning to be neutered. They said they would also check him for a UTI just to make sure. Thanks to everyone for you advice. I am also going to get that Feliaway spray just incase we have any habits! :) Please pray for Midnight tomorrow. I am worried but he is a fighter. He managed to survive the cold before he found us 3 days after Christmas. He is tough, he will be fine but please pray.
Thanks,
Jennifer



RE: Midnight is scheduled

2007-01-29 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Praying for Midnight, Jennifer. Let us know how he gets on tomorrow,
when you have time. 
I am so glad the little sweetheart found you!
Kerry M.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Madon
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 9:05 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Midnight is scheduled


Well I just wanted to let everyone know that after a stinky weekend of
pee, Midnight will be going to the Dr. tomorrow (tuesday) morning to be
neutered.  They said they would also check him for a UTI just to make
sure.  Thanks to everyone for you advice.  I am also going to get that
Feliaway spray just incase we have any habits! :)  Please pray for
Midnight tomorrow.  I am worried but he is a fighter.  He managed to
survive the cold before he found us 3 days after Christmas.  He is
tough, he will be fine but please pray.
Thanks,
Jennifer
 
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Re: Midnight is scheduled

2007-01-29 Thread elizabeth trent

Prayers and all good thoughts for you and Midnight.

elizabeth


On 1/29/07, Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Well I just wanted to let everyone know that after a stinky weekend of
pee, Midnight will be going to the Dr. tomorrow (tuesday) morning to be
neutered.  They said they would also check him for a UTI just to make sure.
Thanks to everyone for you advice.  I am also going to get that Feliaway
spray just incase we have any habits! :)  Please pray for Midnight
tomorrow.  I am worried but he is a fighter.  He managed to survive the cold
before he found us 3 days after Christmas.  He is tough, he will be fine but
please pray.
Thanks,
Jennifer





Re: midnight

2007-01-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Just make sure it's a NON-adjuvanted rabies and distemper vaccine, and that the
distemper is not a combo vaccine that has Chlamydophila (also known as:
Chlamydiosis, Chlamydia psittaci) in it, as it's an unnecessary vaccine with 
common
side effects and very little benefit. Ask for Merial's PUREVAX rabies:
http://merialusa.naccvp.com/view.php?prodnum=058 and Heska's Feline 
ULTRANASAL
FVRCP: http://www.heska.com/ultranasal/pr_info.asp

Here's more about what adjuvants are: http://www.tahealth.net/vas.html


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Re: midnight

2007-01-27 Thread Jennifer Madon
Thanks to everyone for your advice.  From what I have read, I think that 
he is not spraying.  Maybe marking (thank God he hasn't felt the need to 
claim me!) or peeing but not spraying.  I called the vet about having 
him neutered and they said he has to have a rabies shot and distemper.  
I am not sure how I feel about this.  He is not going out so I hate to 
give him anything he won't need.  They didn't gibe him these shots the 
last time he was there because of his fever.  Guess I have to do it 
though.  Thanks again to everyone.

Jennifer

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My Doobie cat started that... I woke up in the middle of the night warm and 
wet, he
had PEED on ME in my bed! He got neutered the next day! He has NEVER gone 
outside the
box since. In his case, it was a marking behavior.

That being said, spraying is when they back up to something and are standing 
with
their tail raised, and spraying urine out behind them on a vertical surface 
(the tail
usually shakes when they do it). Peeing is when they squat. Both can be marking
behaviors, not necessarily health problems. 8-9-10 months is that age where 
problems
often begin, as he's going through puberty at that age.

Phaewryn

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Midnight - shots and neuter

2007-01-27 Thread Nina

Hi Jennifer,
Technically most state laws govern that a cat has to have rabies shots.  
I'd check your county/state laws to make sure.  You can, however, get 
away with not giving them rabies shots if they are not licensed.   I 
don't think I've ever heard of states requiring you to give distemper.  
If Midnight isn't licensed, then it is your vet that is insisting on 
it.  Vaccines are a judgement call.  You have to weigh the protection 
against the stress it might cause.  You mentioned that Midnight has 
already had a fever, the fact that he's already been sick might 
influence you.  I usually have my cats inoculated only for the first 
series.  I don't do the yearly, or every 3 yr follow ups.  There is a 
great deal of debate about whether they are necessary.  You can always 
run a titer (using a blood test), to determine if the cat still has 
sufficient antibodies needed to protect him against the individual 
diseases.  At any rate, don't get his shots at the same time you do his 
neuter. 

Neutering is something that I personally think is worth the risk.  
Surgery and anesthesia is certainly stressful, but so is being intact.  
Not being neutered, besides the pleasant side effect of inappropriate 
urination, and possibly adding to the overpopulation burden, will cause 
Midnight to want to escape your house to go catting around.  It also 
makes them more aggressive toward other cats and he could get into 
fights, or mate with sick girlfriends etc. etc. 

Tell your vet the reasons for your concern about having him vaccinated 
and if he still insists on it, (and if you decide not to do it), find a 
different vet.  Recently Phaewrn started a thread about the safest 
procedures for surgery.  Using gas instead of injectables, running IV 
fluids during surgery, etc.  Take a look at the precautions suggested 
and talk to your vet about those too.  Whenever any of my guys goes in 
for surgery, (pos and neg), I insist on bringing them home afterward esp 
if the clinic doesn't have round the clock care.  I don't know how 
hectic your household is, I remember you saying you have kids :), but I 
feel like I can keep a more watchful eye on my guys than anybody else 
while they recover.  If the worst happens, I can always run them to the 
24 hour er.


Just my 2 cents.  Hugs to you and Midnight,
Nina

Jennifer Madon wrote:
Thanks to everyone for your advice.  From what I have read, I think 
that he is not spraying.  Maybe marking (thank God he hasn't felt the 
need to claim me!) or peeing but not spraying.  I called the vet about 
having him neutered and they said he has to have a rabies shot and 
distemper.  I am not sure how I feel about this.  He is not going out 
so I hate to give him anything he won't need.  They didn't gibe him 
these shots the last time he was there because of his fever.  Guess I 
have to do it though.  Thanks again to everyone.

Jennifer

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My Doobie cat started that... I woke up in the middle of the night 
warm and wet, he
had PEED on ME in my bed! He got neutered the next day! He has NEVER 
gone outside the

box since. In his case, it was a marking behavior.

That being said, spraying is when they back up to something and are 
standing with
their tail raised, and spraying urine out behind them on a vertical 
surface (the tail
usually shakes when they do it). Peeing is when they squat. Both can 
be marking
behaviors, not necessarily health problems. 8-9-10 months is that age 
where problems

often begin, as he's going through puberty at that age.

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
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Re: Midnight - shots and neuter

2007-01-27 Thread Nina
Oh, and do tell whatever vet you go with about his litter box aversion 
to rule out any possible urinary problems.

Nina




Re: Midnight - shots and neuter

2007-01-27 Thread Jennifer Madon
Midnight is not licensed.  That is not a requirement in my county.  I 
was told by my vet that he is required to have rabies and distemper 
vaccines in order to come into the vet for the surgery because of the 
other cats.  Problem #1 is that he is there for check ups with out the 
vaccines. #2 he is FeLV + so he should not be around any other cats.  I 
am not sure if he has ever been vaccinated before.  He came to us about 
a month ago.  I am not sure why but I have a really bad feeling about 
him getting the distemper.  Maybe I will try another vet.  Unfortunately 
there are not many vets in my area.  I will drive if I have to though.  
He has only been here a month but we are really in love with him.  I 
think he gets lonely during the day so I thought about another FeLV+ cat 
to keep him company but I think he would get mad.  He has a bad history 
of being attacked (when he lived outside) by the neighborhood cats.  In 
fact, his fever was from an abscess on his hind parts that the vet said 
was cat bites.  Anyway, the search is on for a new vet.

Jennifer

Nina wrote:

Hi Jennifer,
Technically most state laws govern that a cat has to have rabies 
shots.  I'd check your county/state laws to make sure.  You can, 
however, get away with not giving them rabies shots if they are not 
licensed.   I don't think I've ever heard of states requiring you to 
give distemper.  If Midnight isn't licensed, then it is your vet that 
is insisting on it.  Vaccines are a judgement call.  You have to weigh 
the protection against the stress it might cause.  You mentioned that 
Midnight has already had a fever, the fact that he's already been sick 
might influence you.  I usually have my cats inoculated only for the 
first series.  I don't do the yearly, or every 3 yr follow ups.  There 
is a great deal of debate about whether they are necessary.  You can 
always run a titer (using a blood test), to determine if the cat still 
has sufficient antibodies needed to protect him against the individual 
diseases.  At any rate, don't get his shots at the same time you do 
his neuter.
Neutering is something that I personally think is worth the risk.  
Surgery and anesthesia is certainly stressful, but so is being 
intact.  Not being neutered, besides the pleasant side effect of 
inappropriate urination, and possibly adding to the overpopulation 
burden, will cause Midnight to want to escape your house to go 
catting around.  It also makes them more aggressive toward other 
cats and he could get into fights, or mate with sick girlfriends etc. 
etc.
Tell your vet the reasons for your concern about having him vaccinated 
and if he still insists on it, (and if you decide not to do it), find 
a different vet.  Recently Phaewrn started a thread about the safest 
procedures for surgery.  Using gas instead of injectables, running IV 
fluids during surgery, etc.  Take a look at the precautions suggested 
and talk to your vet about those too.  Whenever any of my guys goes in 
for surgery, (pos and neg), I insist on bringing them home afterward 
esp if the clinic doesn't have round the clock care.  I don't know how 
hectic your household is, I remember you saying you have kids :), but 
I feel like I can keep a more watchful eye on my guys than anybody 
else while they recover.  If the worst happens, I can always run them 
to the 24 hour er.


Just my 2 cents.  Hugs to you and Midnight,
Nina

Jennifer Madon wrote:
Thanks to everyone for your advice.  From what I have read, I think 
that he is not spraying.  Maybe marking (thank God he hasn't felt the 
need to claim me!) or peeing but not spraying.  I called the vet 
about having him neutered and they said he has to have a rabies shot 
and distemper.  I am not sure how I feel about this.  He is not going 
out so I hate to give him anything he won't need.  They didn't gibe 
him these shots the last time he was there because of his fever.  
Guess I have to do it though.  Thanks again to everyone.

Jennifer

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My Doobie cat started that... I woke up in the middle of the night 
warm and wet, he
had PEED on ME in my bed! He got neutered the next day! He has NEVER 
gone outside the

box since. In his case, it was a marking behavior.

That being said, spraying is when they back up to something and are 
standing with
their tail raised, and spraying urine out behind them on a vertical 
surface (the tail
usually shakes when they do it). Peeing is when they squat. Both can 
be marking
behaviors, not necessarily health problems. 8-9-10 months is that 
age where problems

often begin, as he's going through puberty at that age.

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library):
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
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Re: Midnight - shots and neuter

2007-01-27 Thread elizabeth trent

Jennifer,
My veterinary clinic has similar rules about shots and staying overnight for
any reason there...but they do not insist on vaccines for FeVL+ or geriatric
cats (the front desk girls don't know this though).

I'm about the dumbest person on this list - but in my opinion, he really
shouldn't get shots OR have surgery if he has fever...

You may have already done this -- but sometimes it helps to speak directly
to the vet rather than the people at the desk.  The desk people are educated
in the general policies of the clinic but are not qualified to make a
decision based on special circumstances.  I've found that if I am very
polite and ask that the vet call me at his convenience  -  just having a
good conversation with the vet and reaching an understanding considering all
the variables involved can have much better results.  That is no slam on the
people who work there - they are just doing their job..and when they get to
know you - they can really be your friend.  (not to imply that you haven't
already done this...)

At any rate -- prayers going up for you and for dear Midnight.  Your love
and care for him will go a long way in making him better.  My father was a
vet tech for years when he was working his way through college.  He loves
animals and would spend a lot of time with the very sick ones making sure
that they knew they were loved and cared for.  The vet he worked for told
him that the death rate there dramatically decreased (even for the dogs with
Parvo) after dad started just giving the sick ones the extra love and
attention...and that was years and years ago.  It truly makes a difference.

If you do introduce a new FeVL+ friend for him - it might be a good idea to
bring in a kitten -- someone who would automatically assume a lesser spot in
the hierarchy and not challenge him for top position...maybe even a little
girl kittie (spayed, of course...at least in time)  Sometimes having a much
younger one works out quite well.  He just doesn't need to feel threatened.
I think I friend would do him good.

Best to you Jennifer -
elizabeth


On 1/27/07, Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Midnight is not licensed.  That is not a requirement in my county.  I
was told by my vet that he is required to have rabies and distemper
vaccines in order to come into the vet for the surgery because of the
other cats.  Problem #1 is that he is there for check ups with out the
vaccines. #2 he is FeLV + so he should not be around any other cats.  I
am not sure if he has ever been vaccinated before.  He came to us about
a month ago.  I am not sure why but I have a really bad feeling about
him getting the distemper.  Maybe I will try another vet.  Unfortunately
there are not many vets in my area.  I will drive if I have to though.
He has only been here a month but we are really in love with him.  I
think he gets lonely during the day so I thought about another FeLV+ cat
to keep him company but I think he would get mad.  He has a bad history
of being attacked (when he lived outside) by the neighborhood cats.  In
fact, his fever was from an abscess on his hind parts that the vet said
was cat bites.  Anyway, the search is on for a new vet.
Jennifer

Nina wrote:
 Hi Jennifer,
 Technically most state laws govern that a cat has to have rabies
 shots.  I'd check your county/state laws to make sure.  You can,
 however, get away with not giving them rabies shots if they are not
 licensed.   I don't think I've ever heard of states requiring you to
 give distemper.  If Midnight isn't licensed, then it is your vet that
 is insisting on it.  Vaccines are a judgement call.  You have to weigh
 the protection against the stress it might cause.  You mentioned that
 Midnight has already had a fever, the fact that he's already been sick
 might influence you.  I usually have my cats inoculated only for the
 first series.  I don't do the yearly, or every 3 yr follow ups.  There
 is a great deal of debate about whether they are necessary.  You can
 always run a titer (using a blood test), to determine if the cat still
 has sufficient antibodies needed to protect him against the individual
 diseases.  At any rate, don't get his shots at the same time you do
 his neuter.
 Neutering is something that I personally think is worth the risk.
 Surgery and anesthesia is certainly stressful, but so is being
 intact.  Not being neutered, besides the pleasant side effect of
 inappropriate urination, and possibly adding to the overpopulation
 burden, will cause Midnight to want to escape your house to go
 catting around.  It also makes them more aggressive toward other
 cats and he could get into fights, or mate with sick girlfriends etc.
 etc.
 Tell your vet the reasons for your concern about having him vaccinated
 and if he still insists on it, (and if you decide not to do it), find
 a different vet.  Recently Phaewrn started a thread about the safest
 procedures for surgery.  Using gas instead of injectables, running IV
 fluids during

midnight

2007-01-26 Thread Jennifer Madon



Hello everyone.  I am back with another question.  Midnight is 8-9 
months old.  I have noticed the last 2 days that he is peeing all over 
the house.  Not like, oops it just happened but he is positioning 
himself in places or over things and peeing on purpose.  Is this a cry 
for attention, spraying or something else?  Thanks for all your help!

Jennifer



  




Re: midnight

2007-01-26 Thread Marylyn
Sounds like he is marking his territory.  There may be female cats in the 
neighborhood going into heat.  It is the right time here.


Get some of the spray feliway and spray it everywhere in the house. 
Especially where he has marked.  Is he spraying or just peeing?


Just to make sure he is ok physically have a vet check him with special 
emphasis on crystals in the urine/kidneys/bladder and for a UTI.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:34 AM
Subject: midnight





Hello everyone.  I am back with another question.  Midnight is 8-9 months 
old.  I have noticed the last 2 days that he is peeing all over the house. 
Not like, oops it just happened but he is positioning himself in places or 
over things and peeing on purpose.  Is this a cry for attention, spraying 
or something else?  Thanks for all your help!

Jennifer











Re: midnight

2007-01-26 Thread Jennifer Madon
This may sound stupid but how do I know the difference between spraying and 
peeing.  He still goes into his box but I keep catching him squating all over 
the house peeing on wierd things.  A dart board that was under my husbands 
desk, my dresser, and this morning it was a comforter I had on the couch.  I 
will try the feliway.  Does it smell?  I am afraid my husband will make me get 
rid of him if I can't get the peeing under control.  Anyone want to rescue a 
husband?  My vet is out having hip replacement so I am not sure what to do 
about taking him in.  When I get him neutered, will that stop the spraying, if 
that is what he is doing?
Thanks again, Jennifer

-Original Message-
From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jan 26, 2007 7:51 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: midnight

Sounds like he is marking his territory.  There may be female cats in the 
neighborhood going into heat.  It is the right time here.

Get some of the spray feliway and spray it everywhere in the house. 
Especially where he has marked.  Is he spraying or just peeing?

Just to make sure he is ok physically have a vet check him with special 
emphasis on crystals in the urine/kidneys/bladder and for a UTI.






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
  St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:34 AM
Subject: midnight




 Hello everyone.  I am back with another question.  Midnight is 8-9 months 
 old.  I have noticed the last 2 days that he is peeing all over the house. 
 Not like, oops it just happened but he is positioning himself in places or 
 over things and peeing on purpose.  Is this a cry for attention, spraying 
 or something else?  Thanks for all your help!
 Jennifer



 






Re: midnight

2007-01-26 Thread Gussies mom
When a cat sprays they usually back up to something, lift their tail and it 
goes straight out. It also has a very strong odor.
   
  Beth

Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This may sound stupid but how do I know the difference between spraying and 
peeing. He still goes into his box but I keep catching him squating all over 
the house peeing on wierd things. A dart board that was under my husbands desk, 
my dresser, and this morning it was a comforter I had on the couch. I will try 
the feliway. Does it smell? I am afraid my husband will make me get rid of him 
if I can't get the peeing under control. Anyone want to rescue a husband? My 
vet is out having hip replacement so I am not sure what to do about taking him 
in. When I get him neutered, will that stop the spraying, if that is what he is 
doing?
Thanks again, Jennifer

-Original Message-
From: Marylyn 
Sent: Jan 26, 2007 7:51 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: midnight

Sounds like he is marking his territory. There may be female cats in the 
neighborhood going into heat. It is the right time here.

Get some of the spray feliway and spray it everywhere in the house. 
Especially where he has marked. Is he spraying or just peeing?

Just to make sure he is ok physically have a vet check him with special 
emphasis on crystals in the urine/kidneys/bladder and for a UTI.






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Jennifer Madon 
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:34 AM
Subject: midnight




 Hello everyone. I am back with another question. Midnight is 8-9 months 
 old. I have noticed the last 2 days that he is peeing all over the house. 
 Not like, oops it just happened but he is positioning himself in places or 
 over things and peeing on purpose. Is this a cry for attention, spraying 
 or something else? Thanks for all your help!
 Jennifer



 






 
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Re: midnight

2007-01-26 Thread Marylyn
Spraying is where they usually back up against something and pee.  There is 
usually a stronger odor to the urine.  Feliway has no odor I can detect.  I 
use Odo Ban (Wal-Mart/Sam's) to clean where they pee or spray.  It works 
wonders and I have had no problem with it.  If he is squatting I would have 
him checked ASAP for UTI even if you need to see another vet.  That is not a 
problem you want to let go.









If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: midnight


This may sound stupid but how do I know the difference between spraying 
and peeing.  He still goes into his box but I keep catching him squating 
all over the house peeing on wierd things.  A dart board that was under my 
husbands desk, my dresser, and this morning it was a comforter I had on 
the couch.  I will try the feliway.  Does it smell?  I am afraid my 
husband will make me get rid of him if I can't get the peeing under 
control.  Anyone want to rescue a husband?  My vet is out having hip 
replacement so I am not sure what to do about taking him in.  When I get 
him neutered, will that stop the spraying, if that is what he is doing?

Thanks again, Jennifer

-Original Message-

From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jan 26, 2007 7:51 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: midnight

Sounds like he is marking his territory.  There may be female cats in the
neighborhood going into heat.  It is the right time here.

Get some of the spray feliway and spray it everywhere in the house.
Especially where he has marked.  Is he spraying or just peeing?

Just to make sure he is ok physically have a vet check him with special
emphasis on crystals in the urine/kidneys/bladder and for a UTI.






If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
 St.
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:34 AM
Subject: midnight





Hello everyone.  I am back with another question.  Midnight is 8-9 
months
old.  I have noticed the last 2 days that he is peeing all over the 
house.
Not like, oops it just happened but he is positioning himself in places 
or
over things and peeing on purpose.  Is this a cry for attention, 
spraying

or something else?  Thanks for all your help!
Jennifer

















Re: midnight

2007-01-26 Thread elizabeth trent

Jennifer,
Barring, of course, an underlying physical problem - you may want to combat
this on two fronts:  First - you've got to totally get rid of the scent so
that he can't smell it so those places don't remained marked as a good place
to 'go'.  (I've had good luck with 'urine gone').  Second - I totaly agree
with those who mentioned Feliway..

*Feliway* (Comfort Zone) spray and diffusers prevent cats from urinating
where they shouldn't. This fantastic new pheromone Feliway spray or diffuser
duplicates the smell of a cat's natural scent glands. Cats will not soil
anything close to where Feliway has been sprayed.

EntirelyPets.com has the best price I've seen:
http://entirelypets.stores.yahoo.net/fel60mlspray.html

They have the diffusers too (which I use as well) but the spray is really
good for targeting problem areas.

Feliway is also great for preventing claw sharpening on inappropriate items.


On 1/26/07, Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Hello everyone.  I am back with another question.  Midnight is 8-9
months old.  I have noticed the last 2 days that he is peeing all over
the house.  Not like, oops it just happened but he is positioning
himself in places or over things and peeing on purpose.  Is this a cry
for attention, spraying or something else?  Thanks for all your help!
Jennifer







Re: midnight

2007-01-26 Thread Belinda
Getting a cat neutered will often stop the spraying but I wouldn't 
wait any longer, if it becomes a habit it may not stop.  I have had this 
happen with a few cats and they did stop after they were neutered.


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Re: midnight

2007-01-26 Thread cindy reasoner
If you can tell that he isn't spraying then I would
take him into the vet.  He might have a urinary tract
infection and that is something you don't want to let
go.  If he is spraying then I would get him neutered
as soon as possible.

Cindy Reasoner

--- Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Hello everyone.  I am back with another question. 
 Midnight is 8-9 
 months old.  I have noticed the last 2 days that he
 is peeing all over 
 the house.  Not like, oops it just happened but he
 is positioning 
 himself in places or over things and peeing on
 purpose.  Is this a cry 
 for attention, spraying or something else?  Thanks
 for all your help!
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Re: midnight

2007-01-26 Thread Gary Murphy
Hi Jennifer,
I'm just getting caught up on my email, so I'm sure
others have written you already, but yes, get him 
neutered!!!  I was afraid to have it done to my positive, 
Will Feral, but he came through great. He was almost 
8 months old when I saw him back up and send a 
stream of urine right into my husband's slipper.  That 
did it, we took him in and had the surgery.  I haven't 
seen him do it again, and I don't smell any evidence 
that he has.  If you wait too long, the behavior can 
become a habit that even neutering will not curb.

Good luck,
Beth

Re: midnight

2007-01-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My Doobie cat started that... I woke up in the middle of the night warm and 
wet, he
had PEED on ME in my bed! He got neutered the next day! He has NEVER gone 
outside the
box since. In his case, it was a marking behavior.

That being said, spraying is when they back up to something and are standing 
with
their tail raised, and spraying urine out behind them on a vertical surface 
(the tail
usually shakes when they do it). Peeing is when they squat. Both can be marking
behaviors, not necessarily health problems. 8-9-10 months is that age where 
problems
often begin, as he's going through puberty at that age.

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library):
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
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Re: midnight

2007-01-26 Thread elizabeth trent

Phaewryn,
I'm sorry -- I know it's not funny but my drink nearly went out my nose ;-)
There is no question - you belong to your cats.  It's good to be loved LOL

elizabeth

On 1/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


My Doobie cat started that... I woke up in the middle of the night warm
and wet, he
had PEED on ME in my bed! He got neutered the next day! He has NEVER gone
outside the
box since. In his case, it was a marking behavior.

That being said, spraying is when they back up to something and are
standing with
their tail raised, and spraying urine out behind them on a vertical
surface (the tail
usually shakes when they do it). Peeing is when they squat. Both can be
marking
behaviors, not necessarily health problems. 8-9-10 months is that age
where problems
often begin, as he's going through puberty at that age.

Phaewryn

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Midnight and the mysterious puddle (was Newbie question)

2007-01-20 Thread Nina
Ha!  What a relief!  You're such a good kitty mom do be so diligent.  I 
hope you stick around too.  Thank you for letting us know the answer to 
the mystery.  I'm so glad to hear it isn't coming from Midnight.  He 
sounds like such a doll, and so do you.

Nina

Jennifer Madon wrote:


Great news!  I am a little embarrassed to admit this but, I found the 
source of the pink puddle!  I was washing dished last night and felt 
my sock get wet.  I looked down and found a pink puddle but no 
midnight.  A rink broke off of my sink and it is leaking.  Somewhere 
between the leak and my floor, it is coming in contact with something 
that tinges it pink.  I am so relieved.  I don't regret asking because 
I learned a lot of great things.  Thanks to everyone and I hope to be 
able to stick around.  Maybe one day I will even be able to help 
answer questions!

Thanks again,
Jennifer








Re: Midnight and the mysterious puddle (was Newbie question)

2007-01-20 Thread Jennifer Madon
Thank you!  He made his first disaster this morning!  I couldn't even 
get mad cause I was laughing so hard!  He was sitting on the window 
sill, behind the mini blinds, watching the forbidden outside.  My 5 yo 
jumped up on the couch and Midnight crouched into attack position.  The 
first time my son moved, Midnight lunged at him.  Through the blinds he 
flew!!  Needless to say, we have a cat sized hole in the blinds where he 
broke the slats!  It was so funny!  Maybe next time I will remember to 
lift the blind for him! LOL


Nina wrote:
Ha!  What a relief!  You're such a good kitty mom do be so diligent.  
I hope you stick around too.  Thank you for letting us know the answer 
to the mystery.  I'm so glad to hear it isn't coming from Midnight.  
He sounds like such a doll, and so do you.

Nina

Jennifer Madon wrote:


Great news!  I am a little embarrassed to admit this but, I found the 
source of the pink puddle!  I was washing dished last night and felt 
my sock get wet.  I looked down and found a pink puddle but no 
midnight.  A rink broke off of my sink and it is leaking.  Somewhere 
between the leak and my floor, it is coming in contact with something 
that tinges it pink.  I am so relieved.  I don't regret asking 
because I learned a lot of great things.  Thanks to everyone and I 
hope to be able to stick around.  Maybe one day I will even be able 
to help answer questions!

Thanks again,
Jennifer











Re: Midnight and the mysterious puddle (was Newbie question)

2007-01-20 Thread elizabeth trent

LOL  I have several sets of blinds complete with kitty holes :0)  It's a
security measuresomeone is always peering outside

elizabeth


On 1/20/07, Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thank you!  He made his first disaster this morning!  I couldn't even
get mad cause I was laughing so hard!  He was sitting on the window
sill, behind the mini blinds, watching the forbidden outside.  My 5 yo
jumped up on the couch and Midnight crouched into attack position.  The
first time my son moved, Midnight lunged at him.  Through the blinds he
flew!!  Needless to say, we have a cat sized hole in the blinds where he
broke the slats!  It was so funny!  Maybe next time I will remember to
lift the blind for him! LOL

Nina wrote:
 Ha!  What a relief!  You're such a good kitty mom do be so diligent.
 I hope you stick around too.  Thank you for letting us know the answer
 to the mystery.  I'm so glad to hear it isn't coming from Midnight.
 He sounds like such a doll, and so do you.
 Nina

 Jennifer Madon wrote:

 Great news!  I am a little embarrassed to admit this but, I found the
 source of the pink puddle!  I was washing dished last night and felt
 my sock get wet.  I looked down and found a pink puddle but no
 midnight.  A rink broke off of my sink and it is leaking.  Somewhere
 between the leak and my floor, it is coming in contact with something
 that tinges it pink.  I am so relieved.  I don't regret asking
 because I learned a lot of great things.  Thanks to everyone and I
 hope to be able to stick around.  Maybe one day I will even be able
 to help answer questions!
 Thanks again,
 Jennifer










Re: Midnight and the mysterious puddle (was Newbie question)

2007-01-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yeah, my Miranda cat ATE all the blinds up to cat head height from the window 
sill,
so now we keep them up about 18 inches from the sill... or she will eat them 
some
more! She didn't actually consume them, she just chewed them all to shreds, 
pieces of
plastic blinds all over the floor.

Phaewryn

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Midnight needs a home

2006-04-19 Thread Lance Linimon

Hello all,

I'm posting this here with permission from the author. It was  
originally posted on the Yahoo! FeLV+ list. You can check that group  
to get the original author's e-mail address. If you have trouble  
finding it, feel free to e-mail me offlist. The post is from Monday,  
April 17. I wish I were in a position to take Midnight in. I hope one  
of you can be of help.


Thank you,

Lance

 
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I have a beautiful and loving female cat named Midnight.

She is probably under 1 year old.  My mother found the cat and I took
it to the veterinary clinic and they have diagnosed the cat with
feline leukemia.

I would like to request any information you might have on helping me
to suspend the veterinarian's suggestion to put Midnight to sleep.

I understand that your organization specializes in recognizing the
qualities that animals poses that can add tranquility and therapeutic
regimens to patients with special needs.  I believe that your
organization focuses on not giving up so easily when life seems
hopeless.  She is not a sickly cat.

He said that I would never find her a home because of her diagnosis.
I will admit I find animals homes regularly and I have had to deal
with putting animals that are in a great deal of pain to sleep,
however, Midnight is so very different – she is absolutely loving and
sweet.

I will donate money to the Animal-Assisted Therapy organization to
financially take care of all expenses for a minimum of 6 months
towards Midnight's future.

Time is ticking because I need to come to an answer quickly because I
am currently boarding her at an animal clinic.  I cannot take care of
her myself because I have two cats and I know that feline leukemia is
contagious amongst cats.

Please contact me at (713) 501-0499 for more information.  I would
appreciate it if you could just meet her (I can take her to you) or
talk with me.  She really is so special.  I rarely ask people for
anything.  I volunteer time and money ALL the time, please if someone
could do this one thing for me/her.

At a minimum, please contact me with contact information for health
care institutions: nursing homes, hospitals, rehabilitation centers,
psychiatric institutions who I reach for the same cause.

Thank you.
 
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