l argument in favor or disfavor of anything.
What you are describing here is your “does not belong”.
“Fit nicely together” means it allows to do things that were not
possible previously or required more work and were more fragile
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and neither do you.
> FWIW, Fabrice Bellard didn't bundle all his initially hobby projects
> together.
> Several of them became popular.
He bundled together the things that fit nicely together. Once again an
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Like a lot of features.
Scrapping the bottom of drawers for arguments are you?
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> I think the 2 commmittteees we have
We do not have two committees, their mandate expired more than a year
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ake it easier to understand the logic (
> copy the data before tail to the newly requested space)
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>Please review as soon as possible, thank you very much!
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trying, just accept you will be making them unhappy as unavoidable, and
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> Then you could simply reuse the code inside libavformat.
Do you finally support merging the libraries then?
Because otherwise, using from libavformat code for an individual
component of libavcodec requires adding a new avpriv function.
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Paul B Mahol (12023-09-27):
> I think that having parser is much more useful.
Having a parser when it can be done without is a waste of code and
resources.
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> This is not true.
If you say so.
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ichael working on code that gives him fun again.
Anyway, I suppose you have no difficulty seeing how this kind of
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stabilizes and becomes good.
Nothing successful starts as a library. Suggesting that a project starts
as a library is either an expression of incompetence or a dishonest
attempt at killing it.
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> libavdevice is using libavformat API that is unacceptable maintenance burden.
This is a lie. You would not even know if libavdevice is a maintenance
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useless.
As for people who criticize libavdevice without even a hint of a
reflection on how to make make it better, they are just hypocrites who
disguise their hate into technical opinion.
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> libavdevice is abusing libavformat.
>
> It should have own API or be removed.
libavdevice works.
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me using a template to generate code, with
the extra benefit that it is type-safe.
I see a few places in the code below where you pay the price for your
design choice. I think you should consider taking a few ideas from my
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volunteering to package it yourself, so you are again proposing to waste
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> send?
> Meeting a threshold of emails is not a good measure of the validity of any
> claim.
What?
> Yes, and it agrees with its removal.
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If it brings useful features in a way that integrate gracefully in
FFmpeg, then great! Send the patches then.
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> ---
> libavfilter/buffersrc.c | 13 +
> 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
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t be substantiated too, for
example “the same feature is already possible [like that]”.
And if the same feature is *not* already possible, then it surely means
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> >> So that means mandatory sending to the mailing list :)
> Trolling is not going to get you anywhere.
What trolling? You mean the suggestion to enforce a rule that is known
to have caused a fork to wither and die? That was not from me.
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> So that means mandatory sending to the mailing list :)
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> we shouldn't put extra burden on reviewers, nor guilt trap them into
> suggesting an alternative approach
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granted that it does not belongs in FFmpeg.
But what you refuse to realize is that it is only an opinion, shared by
you and a few “people”, backed by zero actual arguments.
As such, your opinion is worthy of very little consideration, a lot much
less than the opposition opini
iding NULL to the channel-layout
> functions that are wrappers around AVBPrint versions.
>
> Signed-off-by: Andreas Rheinhardt
> ---
> Missing lavu minor version bump.
Looks good to me.
The other patches in the series too, but I do not maintain the channel
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> libavformat/sbgdec.c | 63 ++--
> 1 file changed, 25 insertions(+), 38 deletions(-)
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ond time I have to
tell you: no, it is not true at all.
We are seeing exactly the opposite: Michael's code is big, but it is
self-contained and completely optional.
Furthermore, it is not wasting any developer time. Only these sterile
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quot;use current frame pts for filename",
> OFFSET(frame_pts), AV_OPT_TYPE_BOOL, { .i64 = 0 }, 0, 1, ENC },
> { "atomic_writing", "write files atomically (using temporary files and
> renames)", OFFSET(use_rename), AV_OPT_TYPE_BOOL, { .i64 = 0 }, 0, 1, ENC },
> -{ "protocol_opts", "specify protocol options for the opened files",
> OFFSET(protocol_opts), AV_OPT_TYPE_DICT, {0}, 0, 0, ENC },
> +{ "protocol_opts", "specify protocol options for the opened files",
> OFFSET(protocol_opts), AV_OPT_TYPE_DICT, {0}, 0, 0, ENC },
> { NULL },
> };
>
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r this discussion, it is
enough that the libavradio device is just another device with one or a
few source files enabled by the build system, and that disabling it is
just a “--disable-” away.
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> On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 7:59 AM Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:
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library.
But as long as a new feature doesn't metastasize into the common code,
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This is an interesting idea. It would even be possible to include a tool
that generate these stubs directly from the linker's errors, reducing
the maintenance.
Maybe even make the stubs static inline functions rather than actual
linking symbols.
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Because if something is integrated, then ffmpeg can do all that.
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worth having our own XML parser, limited to exactly what we need instead
of supporting the whole complex format.
And so on and so on.
FFmpeg is a place for creativity. If you do not agree, try to remember
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!av_bprint_is_complete(event)) return NULL;
> +if (i == INT_MAX) return AVERROR_INVALIDDATA;
… which do not follow the coding style.
(The dynamic buffer writer of the AVWriter API makes it much harder to
forget checking. But AVWriter is currently in limbo waiting for this
project to
discussing for now are not even
hacks. So if you and Thomas only have a slippery slope fallacy against
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If Michael wants to work within the framework of FFmpeg and its signal
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hat thing. What a surprise.
I will add that “affect the code in profound ways” was actually true for
hardware acceleration, requiring a big mess in the code and significant
to the internal API and even public API and user interface. Yet nobody
is objecting to them.
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Martin Storsjo (12023-07-25):
> The TC has discussed the matter at hand.
The TC (and CC) has been elected for a year in July of 2020. That means
your mandate is two years expired. This decision is therefore not
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indeed, that is exactly what this patch does, and that is exactly
why it is useful, anybody involved in the library as you are should be
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understand the feeling.
I hope before coming to that you will consider taking part in an effort
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Direct rendering is especially useful for software, that is the point.
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ion works at all. (The tidbits of
discussion I catch left me the impression all of it is very badly
designed, but I have low confidence in that impression.) If this API
only works with filters that output software frames, it is already very
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here instead of the AVFilterContext, and let
> the caller access link->dst if needed.
The API of buffersink already exposes all the necessary format
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No problem, I was about to make the remark. But please do not Cc people
who have not asked for it. Especially when the mail says "Reply-To:
ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org".
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years. This patch only adds the
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> +++ b/libavfilter/version.h
> @@ -31,7 +31,7 @@
>
> #include "version_major.h"
>
> -#define LIBAVFILTER_VERSION_MINOR 8
> +#define LIBAVFILTER_VERSION_MINOR 9
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A test program would be nice too. I assume you hav
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an AMD Ryzen 3 3200U and Debaian stable. The mod lines are
when I disabled the two faulty functions.
They are all over the place, it is hard to be sure, but it seems to
indicate that, as you suspected, the benefit is not that big.
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er for which videolan is doing the git mail)
>
> No ill sideeffects are expected but unexpected things are always possible.
Hi.
Can the "branch master updated:" be removed? We only work on master
anyway, it takes up space and the interesting part of the commit subject
gets truncated.
of assembly stopped at the 386, so I
cannot tell which one it is, but I think the likeliness are balanced.
Somebody more skilled will look at it, hopefully.
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> I do not see this patch on the mailing list.
You need to look better, just like for the benefits of good
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> Updated version attached, similar to what exists in common.h.
Pushed.
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This broke: “ffmpeg -i whatever -f opengl -” that can be used to preview
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It seems to me like a lose-lose situation. I can understand why people
only interested in their short-term revenue stream would object, but
people who work on them I do not understand. Can you explain?
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and name recognition in order to steal the project from the people who
made it great.
It would be 100% legal and within the rules, but stealing nonetheless.
Michael is a thousand times more FFmpeg than you.
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not take concessions and accept your code. They will
take every conception you make and demand more, the only thing they will
accept is if you stop “wasting” your time on it and go back to work that
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illustrate the shortsightedness of people who want FFmpeg to be a
Serious OpenSource Project TM, it's called The Goose that Laid the
Golden Eggs, I assume everybody knows how it ends.
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Yes it is. We are not libav.
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Tomas Härdin (12023-07-02):
> On Debian these are provided by apt same as all other libraries
> including libc, so yes.
By this reasoning, xbill would be considered a system library. Try
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ve fun and produce great code.
Little hands can come later and polish the result so that is can be used
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FFmpeg, and each solution will have its own set of benefits and
drawbacks in terms of performance, features, user interaction, etc.
In other words, a simple point of logic: X can Y does not imply X cannot
Z for all Z not equal to Y.
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The filters will have to provide the logic to set the status
and check for a wanted frame.
Signed-off-by: Nicolas George
---
libavfilter/framesync.c | 46 ++---
libavfilter/framesync.h | 28 +
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libavfilter/Makefile| 1 +
libavfilter/allfilters.c| 1 +
libavfilter/vf_framematch.c | 82 +
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create mode 100644 libavfilter/vf_framematch.c
Unfinished yet, but should
rk you.
P.S.: I do not think I am skilled enough in that area to review your
code. But if you think I am, maybe on some parts, then I will happily.
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Is libplacebo considered a system library?
Is overlaying not considered an integral part of FFmpeg's task?
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> libplacebo is better in every way for anything involving scaling or format
> conversions
Is libplacebo considered a system library?
Are scaling and format conversions not considered essential parts of
FFmpeg's task?
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> filters in
> filtergraph that do not support dynamic width/height changes.
If you have a proof-of-concept patch series where this flag is actually
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A flag connected with no code at all? What is it supposed to do?
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he build system can also parse parts of the C source code to extract
the structure information, for example AVOption initializers.
- The build system also parses the current texinfo documentation so that
we do not have to rewrite it all at once.
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Zhanbang He (12023-05-08):
> Can it supports chatGPT?
Of course not. Only ChatGnuTP, for obvious reasons of freedom.
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ou want a help browser where hyperlinks are possible,
av_documentation_get_excerpt(obj, AVDOC_LINK_SELF_CONTAINED_FULL).
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hat information to the user. For
example, internally we could store an array of used or unused options
and to the user we can include only the used options in AVDocExcerpt.
The most annoying task for this will be to look at the code component by
component.
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nts in the C
source code or in a separate .md file with the same name to generate the
structures for the built-in documentation. If the system parses comments
in the C source, it can also parse the AVOption initializers, at least
in the simple cases.
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Rémi Denis-Courmont (12023-05-02):
> I think that that is pretty rich coming from you, just judging by your
> earlier
> responses to other people.
Pointers?
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comment without even looking at the code itself.
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