Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATI 9200 Direct Rendering problem on Linux

2004-11-03 Thread Martin Spott
"Ampere K. Hardraade" wrote: > it seem agpgart is still seeing the i810 and not the ATI card. Did you already give the OpenSource drivers a try ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! ---

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Plea for help: geometry/trigonometry problem

2004-11-03 Thread Martin Spott
Boris Koenig wrote: > My first VERY simple *guess* would be that it might be because of an > imbalance in inertia of a compasses moving parts as soon as the pitch > changes accordingly. It has to do with the fact that a whiskey compass has it's magentic 'detector' mountet parallel to the earth ma

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATI 9200 Direct Rendering problem on Linux

2004-11-03 Thread Martin Spott
"Ampere K. Hardraade" wrote: > On November 3, 2004 12:41 pm, Martin Spott wrote: > > "Ampere K. Hardraade" wrote: > > > it seem agpgart is still seeing the i810 and not the ATI card. > > > > Did you already give the OpenSource drivers a try ? >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Key Bindings

2004-11-03 Thread Martin Spott
Jon Stockill wrote: > Runways aren't just flat sloping planes though - the slope may not be > constant. Several runways have a hump in the middle, or a slope at just > one end. I believe for the purpose of outlining the runway in order to get the aircraft down in one piece it is absolutely suff

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATI 9200 Direct Rendering problem on Linux

2004-11-03 Thread Martin Spott
"Ampere K. Hardraade" wrote: > If you are referring the "radeon" driver, itI am using it at the moment and it > doesn't give me direct rendering either. I have to guess what you're meaning Could you post the "Device" and the "DRI" section of your XF86Config ? Simply use cut 'n paste so I do

[Flightgear-devel] autopilot error ?

2004-11-04 Thread Martin Spott
Hello, with the default c172 I see this error: Reading autopilot configuration from /home/mas/CVS/FlightGear/data/Aircraft/c172p/Systems/KAP140.xml Unknown top level section: filter Detected an internal inconsistancy in the autopilot configuration. See earlier errors for details. Deleting a sa

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATI 9200 Direct Rendering problem on Linux

2004-11-04 Thread Martin Spott
"Ampere K. Hardraade" wrote: > Section "Device" > Identifier "Generic Video Card" > Driver "radeon" > EndSection This is not very much, although it _might_ work. You'd be better done with adding a BusID and a Screen. "Ampere K. Hardraade" wrote: > If I keep the "rade

Re: [Flightgear-devel] autopilot error ?

2004-11-04 Thread Martin Spott
Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: > Do you have the latest CVS? Filters were added to xmlauto.*xx mid October: > > http://baron.flightgear.org/pipermail/flightgear-cvslogs/2004-October/008703.html That's it. I already removed anything with '*kap140*' in the filename and pulled a fresh version from CVS. A

Re: [Flightgear-devel] autopilot error ?

2004-11-04 Thread Martin Spott
Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: > So... problem solved, or? Yep - thanks, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___ Flightgear-

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATI 9200 Direct Rendering problem on Linux

2004-11-06 Thread Martin Spott
"Ampere K. Hardraade" wrote: > Any idea what the first few lines are saying? > Ampere > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo > name of display: :0.0 > libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 4.0.1 r200 (screen 0) > libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r200_dri.so > libGL er

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Open Scene Graph

2004-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
Paul Kahler wrote: > [-- text/html, encoding 7bit, charset: us-ascii, 44 lines --] Eeeek . > BTW2, you guys might consider using bittorrent to help bandwidth :-) Did you try one of the mirrors ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! ---

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATI 9200 Direct Rendering problem on Linux

2004-11-08 Thread Martin Spott
"Ampere K. Hardraade" wrote: > Still no luck with direct rendering. If I use the one from XFree86, direct > rendering will get enabled, but the framerate is so poor that even my i810 > can beat it. If I use the one from fglrx, it is error after error after > error. Sigh... and I thought ATI i

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Seafire and Spitfire engine startup

2004-11-08 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > That's because you didn't compile fgfs with SDL (--enable-sdl) but > with glut. Glut (at least freeglut) either has a keyboard event bug, > or is wrongly configured in fgfs: if the space bar is held down, > there's a constant flow of "pressed, released, pressed, released, .

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATI 9200 Direct Rendering problem on Linux

2004-11-08 Thread Martin Spott
"Ampere K. Hardraade" wrote: > Fresh Linux installation, but I'm still getting this: > (II) fglrx(0): [agp] AGP v1/2 disable mask 0x ^ Your fault - isn't it ? If you need support for a closed source driver, then please call the vendor and stop annoying people on an OpenSource ma

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATI 9600 Pro Rendering problem on Linux.

2004-11-08 Thread Martin Spott
Chris Reid wrote: > For some reason this seems to only affect xorg and not xfree > (??!??), Probably ATI's not yet up to date with XOrg ? As far as I remember the interface to the DRI driver has changed a bit, this might break your attempt to run drivers designed for XFree86, Martin. -- Unix

Re: [Flightgear-devel] nurbs headaches

2004-11-09 Thread Martin Spott
Gerhard Wesp wrote: > What additional data do you have available for the runways? I guess you > have it's position (two endpoints? center point, direction, length?) Runway center point, orientation, length, width and in rare cases an exact elevation - not to think about that the whole stuff has

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-11 Thread Martin Spott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Do you think you might be able to modify the mac os x docs for 0.9.6 > especially with regard to updating make tools for a successful source > build? I'd welcome any sort of submission for documentation updates. This would be a great idea to get me back to working on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ATI 9200 Direct Rendering problem on Linux

2004-11-11 Thread Martin Spott
Steven Beeckman wrote: > Martin, if you want you may explain to me how to get the ATI Radeon 9200 > to work on a brand new Slackware 10.0 ;-). The docs of DRI speak about > getting the CVS of X.Org, configuring the kernel [...] I don't know which release of X11 is being shipped with Slackware 1

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ATI 9200 Direct Rendering problem on Linux

2004-11-11 Thread Martin Spott
Steven Beeckman wrote: > PS: Alex: what's fglrx? The drivers from ATI? I've tried the rpm I > think, but it didn't work out either :-s (probably because of what you > said: two ways to solve the same problem ...) 'fglrx' is the closed source driver from ATI. You probably need to tweak the build

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-11 Thread Martin Spott
Arthur Wiebe wrote: > I built PLIB and SimGear with automake 1.6.3 instead of 1.9.3 but I > don't think that would be a problem. I believe you won't need to deal with 'automake' as long as you stick to the source code 'release' packages, because 'configure' is already there. 'automake' comes into

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Airport Layouts (Europe)

2004-11-13 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > If you are interested in modeling them for FlightGear/X-Plane then you > can find jpeg images of them here: > http://www.a1.nl/~ehofman/fgfs/download/images/ Nice, I'd probably try EDDL (it's quite near to EDLN). Do these images have a fixed scale ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ u

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ATI 9200 Direct Rendering problem on Linux

2004-11-13 Thread Martin Spott
Steven Beeckman wrote: > Martin, if you want you may explain to me how to get the ATI Radeon 9200 > to work on a brand new Slackware 10.0 ;-) Which kernel release do you have with Slackware 10.0 ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! ---

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATI 9200 Direct Rendering problem on Linux

2004-11-13 Thread Martin Spott
"Ampere K. Hardraade" wrote: > I have finally got direct rendering working by apt-getting xlibmesa-dri. > glxgears only runs at ~200 fps though. :-/ Do you find something similar to this in your /var/log/messages ? Nov 13 19:28:04 quickstep kernel: [drm:radeon_unlock] *ERROR* Process 1000 usi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ATI 9200 Direct Rendering problem on Linux

2004-11-13 Thread Martin Spott
Steven Beeckman wrote: > Now I'm using 2.4.24 (in the twenties) but I'm planning on upgrading to > some 2.6 kernel (the newest one probably). Slackware 10.0 ships with > X.org [...] I believe with XOrg and a 2.6 kernel you already have anything you need to get happy :-) Cheers, Martin.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATI 9200 Direct Rendering problem on Linux

2004-11-14 Thread Martin Spott
"Ampere K. Hardraade" wrote: > On November 13, 2004 01:40 pm, Martin Spott wrote: > > Do you find something similar to this in your /var/log/messages ? > > > > Nov 13 19:28:04 quickstep kernel: [drm:radeon_unlock] *ERROR* Process 1000 > > using kernel context

Re: [Flightgear-devel] When can we have roads like this

2004-11-15 Thread Martin Spott
"Ampere K. Hardraade" wrote: > http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=147&topic_id=172700&mode=full Probably we never want to. Looking from this height the terrain definitely looks different. Does anyone know where they take the roads from - TIGER ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user fr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] When can we have roads like this

2004-11-15 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: > I don't want to think about the polygon count explosion and the hit on the > framerate as a consequence. I believe you never had a look at the airfileds people recently designed with TaxiDraw ;-) I'd vote for some sort of scenery description that allows FlightGear to re

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-15 Thread Martin Spott
Adam Dershowitz wrote: > I took a whack at drafting up a new set of Mac build instructions for the > users guide. I would appreciate it if someone else could try to run through > this step by step just to confirm that I did not miss anything (another set > of eyes and a different computer is pret

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: Another FGFS PPL :-D

2004-11-15 Thread Martin Spott
Matthew Law wrote: > After 18 months and 49 hours flying I finally passed my PPL skills test > today. Woohoo - congratulations ! O.k., I see, I've lost the race ;-) I'll need some more months because I was a bit short on money during the summer - which is probably not that uncommon to freelance

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] OT: Another FGFS PPL :-D

2004-11-15 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote: > Wow -- congrats! Have you decided on your first post-PPL > cross-country yet? Let us know in advance, and perhaps some of us > will try it in FlightGear as well. This is a pretty nice idea: Let's create a collection of our favourite cross-country flights, including wayp

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Magnetic Compass

2004-11-15 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote: > I'm pretty happy with the magnetic compass now. I won't claim that > it's a perfect simulation, but it's close enough for practice, [...] To be honest: I mostly found the compass a bit small for real use. I remember Curt's report about their commercial simulator which use

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft carrier

2004-11-15 Thread Martin Spott
Mathias Fr??hlich wrote: > ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Misc_maf/carrier > > (Many thanks to Martin Spott for the webspace!) This is not _my_ webspace, I'm simply the guy who is being left alone with the job to maintain the university FTP-Server ;-) Finally this leaves t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: OT: Another FGFS PPL :-D

2004-11-15 Thread Martin Spott
Matthew Law wrote: > I agree. I'm not sure if I would be allowed to scan CAA VFR chart > sections for people to fly with but it would be cool. At our flight school we typically use such a form: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/PPL/flugplanlba-v.pdf to write down our flight planning. I think it woul

Re: [Flightgear-devel] When can we have roads like this

2004-11-15 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > [...] I believe there is some detailed USGS road data (for the USA only) > called DLG (?) but I haven't played around with it myself. You probably meant this one: http://www.census.gov/geo/www/tiger/tigerua/ua_tgr2k.html Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] When can we have roads like this

2004-11-15 Thread Martin Spott
Chris Metzler wrote: > On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 06:01:43 -0500 "Norman Vine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think that the newer OpenGL cards can handle *many* more polygons > > in the scenery then we are currently throwing at them as long as we > > present them clumped according to 'OpenGL state' w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Magnetic Compass

2004-11-15 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote: > What resolution are you running FlightGear at? I am using 'default' resolution (no special flags) on a 1152x864 display. I'll have a try with a larger FG window. > Another option is to use the mouse to scroll the view until the > compass is in the middle of the screen, t

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI nimitz_demo.xml, NONE, 1.1

2004-11-16 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Data/AI > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv21401 > Added Files: > nimitz_demo.xml > Log Message: [...] > The hook can be extended with the H key, retracted with h. Start flightgear > with > fgfs --lat=37.688 --lon=-122.683 --head

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-11-16 Thread Martin Spott
"Vivian Meazza" wrote: > I think you will only see one carrier very close to KSFO. Mathias' code only > works for JBSim FDM models, so if you use a YASim model, like the Bo105, you > will fall through the deck. >From what I've seen on the 'cvslog' list the only change that went into CVS is the ad

FlightGear on FreeBSD; Was: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-11-16 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: > I'll give it a go as soon as I managed to build FG on FreeBSD, Well, OpenAL compiles out of the box and FreeBSD has a plib-1.8.3 package, now I try to configure SimGear. This is what I do: quickstep: 19:25:49 /usr/local/src/SimGear> ./configure \ --prefix=/opt

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-11-16 Thread Martin Spott
"Vivian Meazza" wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: > > Did I miss a mail ? > > No - the code is available at: > > ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Misc_maf/carrier/ I know, this is _my_ server ;-)) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] When can we have roads like this

2004-11-16 Thread Martin Spott
"Norman Vine" wrote: > I would suggest adding them to a PostGIS database which when > appropriately indexed has *quick* respones. > http://postgis.refractions.net Is there a converter which generates SQL-scripts for PostGIS similar to 'shp2pgsql' ? I have a PostGIS server running here at home -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] When can we have roads like this

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
"Norman Vine" wrote: > The thing to remember is that PostGIS is just a normal PostGRES > extension module so you still have the power of a general purpose > relational DB to use. Correct, but the solution by referring from PostGIS shapes to BLOBs that contain the raster data is far not as smart

Re: [Flightgear-devel] When can we have roads like this

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
"Norman Vine" wrote: > Actually it looks as if ogr2ogr can now go directly from tiger to pgsql Thanks for the hint - I'll start building GDAL right now, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! ---

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > It isn't anywhere in the scenery yet -- just in cvs. You have to add > it yourself, or replace the saratoga with it. I added this in file > $FG_ROOT/Scenery/Terrain/w130n30/w123n37/942057.stg: > > OBJECT_SHARED Models/Geometry/Nimitz/nimitz.ac -122.590 37.76 -7.0 90 Thank

Re: [Flightgear-devel] When can we have roads like this

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
"Norman Vine" wrote: > (2) Reprojection of Raster Data is usually *much* more expensive > then Vector data and isn't handled by any GIS enabled DB that > I am currently aware of. Hmmm, how would any DB-based map-server do the job ? Simply by referring to BLOBs in the DB as you already

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.2.3 released

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
"David Luff" wrote: > I've put TaxiDraw-0.2.3 up at > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~eazdluf/taxidraw.html. IRIX binary is here: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel/taxidraw-0.2.3-IRIX.bz2 I can confirm the stopway length bug to be fixed, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
Mathias Fr??hlich wrote: > You will only be able to taxi on the carrier's deck with that > JSBSim-dropin.tar.gz from the same ftp location. Well, this statement appears to be maybe mostly, but not entirely correct ;-) Apparently different rules apply when you put the carrier into the scenery:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
Mathias Fr??hlich wrote: > On Mittwoch 17 November 2004 22:20, Martin Spott wrote: > > http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/FGFS/Carrier_01.jpg [...] > Did you manage to take off? With a BO105 it's pretty easy, it is feasible with the C172 but for the TSR-2 the stri

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-18 Thread Martin Spott
"Vivian Meazza" wrote: > I don't know. Mathias provides you with a perfectly good carrier-capable > aircraft, and you use every other kind ... :-) Well, I'm doing everything in small steps: On the Octane it is a larger undertaking to rebuild FlightGear and after I've finished I'd like to know whe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.2.3 released

2004-11-18 Thread Martin Spott
"David Luff" wrote: > On 11/17/04 at 6:09 PM Martin Spott wrote: > > ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel/taxidraw-0.2.3-IRIX.bz2 > > Thanks, I've updated the link to it. Err, while you're at it: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/TaxiDraw/taxi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.2.3 released

2004-11-18 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: > ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/TaxiDraw/taxidraw-0.2.3-SolSparc.bz2 I forgot: Needs SMCxpm, SMClpng, SMCjpeg, SMCliconv and GCC runtime (The Usual Suspects). Maybe I'll create another binary with static libs, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - i

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.2.3 released

2004-11-18 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: > Err, while you're at it: > > ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/TaxiDraw/taxidraw-0.2.3-SolSparc.bz2 ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/TaxiDraw/taxidraw-0.2.3-FreeBSD.bz2 For FreeBSD-5.x. Needs from the FreeBSD Ports Collection: libiconv, wxgt

[Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on FreeBSD; how to deal with 'configure' ?

2004-11-18 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: > This is what I get (config.log): > configure:8351: gcc -march=pentiumpro -o conftest -mfpmath=sse > -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -O3 > -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/local/include -I/opt/FlightGear/include > -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/local/lib -s > -L/opt/Fli

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on FreeBSD; how to deal with

2004-11-18 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: > > but apparently this is not the correct place, at least it doesn't > > get transferred over to 'configure' during automake/autoconf. Where do > > I add the desired flag ? > > Take a look at FlightGea

[Flightgear-devel] SimGear configure.ac

2004-11-18 Thread Martin Spott
I believe, there is an unintentional line wrap in configure.ac: --- configure.ac~ Thu Oct 21 14:19:05 2004 +++ configure.acThu Nov 18 20:06:32 2004 @@ -185,7 +185,7 @@ CFLAGS=$save_CFLAGS else dnl This is cheating a bit. pthread_exit comes with using -pthread,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on FreeBSD; how to deal with

2004-11-18 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: > The OpenAL check already happens in SimGear - this is the place where > it doesn't work. I tried several things, including removal of the > whole "FreeBSD -lpthread cheat clause", but I still didn't succeed. > So I'll stick to the manual

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-18 Thread Martin Spott
Lee Elliott wrote: > um, yes - the TSR-2 probably isn't the best a/c for carrier > stuff. The FDM needs really an overhaul because the take-off > performance isn't right - it currently lifts off at a lower > speed if reheat isn't used :( - and it was designed to have a > good stol performance

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:

2004-11-19 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: > Frederic Bouvier wrote: > > The patch below will cure the joystick problem on Windows : > > Included in plib-20041012-FG.tar.gz at the same location :-) I made a new package which tracks the changes in PLIB CVS until today: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/Fl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.2.3 released

2004-11-19 Thread Martin Spott
"David Luff" wrote: > I've put TaxiDraw-0.2.3 up at > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~eazdluf/taxidraw.html. > > This is purely a bug-fix release - there is another version in the works > with some more features. In the long run it might be pretty valuable to be able to import GeoTIFF images as back

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Simgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/simgear/screen extensions.cxx, 1.9,

2004-11-20 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/SimGear-0.3/source/simgear/screen > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv29601 > Modified Files: > extensions.cxx > Log Message: > FreeBSD fix. Thank you! Would anyone mind to comment on the two proposed changes to SimGear and FlightGear that I po

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-21 Thread Martin Spott
Lee Elliott wrote: > I also believe the main gear was designed to tolerate less than > perfect strips. Yes, the main gear looks to be very 'robust'. But I still wonder why they paid attention to these features. To my knowledge the TSR-2 was designed for long range and high cruise speed. This sor

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Simgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-11-21 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > I don't think my first attempt at an isnan() fix worked ... I ended up > in an infinite loop. I've tried a less elegant/brute force approach and > that seems to work. We actually got FG up and running on a FreeBSD > machine tonight (woohoo!) Yeah ! Welcome to a won

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Simgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-11-22 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > Jim Couch set up a freebsd machine and gave me an account on it. I > don't know what release he installed, but it was running gcc-3.3.3 if > that says anything to you. The current RELEASE has 3.4.2 as their default compiler, so yours is older. You can't do distinct d

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Simgear-cvslogs] CVS: SimGear/simgear/sound soundmgr_openal.cxx,

2004-11-22 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/SimGear-0.3/SimGear/simgear/sound > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv16290 > Modified Files: > soundmgr_openal.cxx xmlsound.cxx > Log Message: > Melchior FRANZ: > > At last I've found the reason why fgfs crashed routinely for me. When I still > used

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-22 Thread Martin Spott
Lee Elliott wrote: > On Sunday 21 November 2004 21:58, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..you forget this plane was made to fight WWIII. ;-). > > In a nut shell, you've got it. Well, the project started in the late fifties, way past WWII. > technical/manufacturing problems (there have been a surprising

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Simgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-11-22 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > This has nothing to do with _this_ patch, you must be referring to > another one. Hmmm, yes, it actually looked a bit strange to me, too, but I copied the patch from the posting and applied it to my copy of the tree. Maybe I picked the wrong file for patching confusion

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Simgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-11-22 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > This has nothing to do with _this_ patch, you must be referring to > another one. You're absolutely right. I was juggling with several patches and as a result of my confusion I finally hit the wrong posting. Actually this one would have been correct: "I don't understand why

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Simgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-11-22 Thread Martin Spott
"Norman Vine" wrote: > according to this > http://www.delorie.com/gnu/docs/glibc/libc_404.html > > isnan() is only defined for BSD for ISO C99 Might this be related to using different compilers? Curt uses GCC-3.3.3 and I have 3.4.2, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective abo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Magnetic Compass

2004-11-22 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote: > What resolution are you running FlightGear at? The problem is > probably just that the compass is small and your resolution is low, so > there are only so many pixels available to render it no matter what > texture we use. That's it - unfortunately increasing the resolut

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Magnetic Compass

2004-11-22 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote: > That is a problem for all kinds of things in the panel. In real life, > you cannot see everything at once, of course -- you move your eyes, > head, and even your whole upper body around (I have to put my head > nearly on my passengers left shoulder to get a good view of t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Getting data out of FlightGear

2004-11-22 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > Currently there is a problem where different platforms, different OS's > or even different compilers can get different output due to the fact > that structs are used to send data across the network. This can create > endian-problems as well as packed/unpacked struct problem

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Getting data out of FlightGear

2004-11-22 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: > >Erik Hofman wrote: > >>Currently there is a problem where different platforms, different OS's > >>or even different compilers can get different output due to the fact > >>that structs are us

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Getting data out of FlightGear

2004-11-23 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: > Just my personal view, Please forgive me all those typos, it's a bit early in the morning, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.2.4 released

2004-11-24 Thread Martin Spott
"David Luff" wrote: > I've put TaxiDraw-0.2.4 up at > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~eazdluf/taxidraw.html. ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/TaxiDraw/taxidraw-0.2.4-FreeBSD.bz2 ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/TaxiDraw/taxidraw-0.2.4-IRIX.bz2 ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/TaxiDr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.2.4 released

2004-11-24 Thread Martin Spott
David Luff wrote: > Wow, that's quick! This was sort of a 'parallel build' - on three platforms ;-) It is primarily _your_ merit that the required changes for different platforms are that small, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs-construct problem

2004-11-24 Thread Martin Spott
Jason Cox wrote: > fgfs-construct --work-dir=./Work --output-dir=./Scenery-0.9.6 > --tile-id=4920320 ./Work/AirportArea ./Work/Cities ./Work/DEM-3 > ./Work/Freeways ./Work/LandMass ./Work/Rivers ./Work/Shared ./Work/Towns > ./Work/poly_counter ./Work/AirportObj ./Work/Crops ./Work/Forest ./Work

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs-construct problem

2004-11-25 Thread Martin Spott
Jason Cox wrote: > so now the only thing is what is the recomendations for generating > scenery on linux useing vmap0? > can this be overcome by dropping resolution down to 1x1 instead of > 10x10 ? Did you already verify it's an OOM-situation ? If this is the case, you might want to add s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.2.4 released

2004-11-28 Thread Martin Spott
Paul Surgeon wrote: > In short we need a vastly improved TaxiDraw or a new replacement. > The only hassle is that genairports cannot handle any new types of data so > that would need modifying too. To my understanding is _not_ TaxiDraw or 'genairports' that produces hassle - TaxiDraw is just an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.2.4 released

2004-11-28 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > There has been some small amount of discussion with Robin about giving > the FG project a "code range" that we would own. Each line in the > apt.dat has a key code saying the type of info it contains, and so we > could have a range of codes that are dedicated to FG u

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.2.4 released

2004-11-29 Thread Martin Spott
Hello David, "David Luff" wrote: > This is purely a bug-fix release - there is another version in the works > with some more features. The instructions to the key commands tell us which key to use in order to achieve which sort of movement (R,D,F,C for shifting objects around, J,K for rotating).

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs-construct problem

2004-11-29 Thread Martin Spott
Jason Cox wrote: > Yes it is a OOM Problem, I thought 760M would be fine but apparently it > is not. Thats why I would like to find out how much others have to build > scenery. I have a server with enough memory, but I yet didn't manage to build the requirements for the TerraGear utilities. No I h

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs-construct problem

2004-11-29 Thread Martin Spott
"Dale E. Edmons" wrote: > PLIB, Simgear, & GPC have always been required. LibNURBS is required, > but I think its a fairly recent addition. GTS, afaik, isn't used > anymore but the configure scripts still depend on it. In short, all of > the above are required with GTS depreciated. Thanks f

[Flightgear-devel] TerraGear on AIX ....

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
After the psychological strain increased significantly ;-) I tried to build the whole TerraGear stuff on my RS6k. This is a really laborious taks because you have to provide lots of manual fixes (GTS' 'configure' fails to parse `glib-config --version`, Makefiles often miss '-lsgstructure -lsgprop

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TerraGear on AIX ....

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: > The other utilities and libraries do not use GTS. Aaah, I see, apparently 'libGeometry.a' provides and uses these calls: osprey: 15:14:29 /usr/local/src/TerraGear/src/Prep/GSHHS> nm ../../../src/Lib/Geometry/libGeometry.a | grep triangulate .triangulate U

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TerraGear on AIX ....

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: > The other utilities and libraries do not use GTS. Fine, the following patch removes the dependency on GTS. Can we now drop GLIB as well ? - snip -- --- configure.ac.original Mon Aug 2 14:09:10 2004 +++ configure

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv3809 > > Modified Files: > preferences.xml > Log Message: > Comment out the nimitz for now. Hm ? I thought Curt just made it working with stock PLIB - is it still broken ? Martin. -- Unix _IS

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TerraGear on AIX ....

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: > Yes, but you need to remove ArrayFit from Prep/Makefile.am and 'testgts' from Array/Makefile.am (which appears to be the only reference to GTS): --- Makefile.am.originalSat Aug 30 14:00:15 2003 +++ Makefile.am Tue Nov 30 15:50:19 2004 @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ lib

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TerraGear on AIX ....

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: > osprey: 14:13:04 /usr/local/src/TerraGear/src/Prep/GSHHS> make > [...] > g++ -mcpu=604e -mtune=604e -mpowerpc-gpopt -mpowerpc-gfxopt -O3 > -L/opt/gnu/lib -L/usr/local/lib -L/opt/freeware/lib -static-libgcc -s > -L/opt/FlightGear/lib -L/usr/X11R6/l

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TerraGear on AIX ....

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: > Problem solved: I have to add '../../Lib/TriangleJRS/libTriangleJRS.a'. > If in manage to get this undertaking to an end then I'll post a resume. > It would be nice if someone were willing to incorporate the necessary > changes into the TerraGear

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote: > On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:40:53 -, Vivian Meazza > No, it's just a matter of stability. We don't want FlightGear > releases to have to depend on prerelease CVS versions of plib, so we > have to wait until the next plib official release. I'm not convinced that this actua

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > We all are busy. Steve is extremely busy. It doesn't hurt to follow up > on these things (more than once if needed.) If done in a "sensitive" > way, you can usually accomplish reasonable things with reasonable people. I don't think anyone here is attempting to blam

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.2.4 released

2004-12-01 Thread Martin Spott
"David Luff" wrote: > J,K = 0.1 degrees > Shift+J, K = 3 degrees > Ctrl+Shift+J, K = 0.01 degrees > > R, D, F, C move objects 0.5 meters, or 10 meters with shift down. Thank you! Does anyone have a current copy of Robin's 'AptNavFAQ' ? Robin's pages on the X-Plane site have disappeared and the c

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Simgear-cvslogs]

2004-12-02 Thread Martin Spott
Hello Curt, could you please revert this change and remove the whole FreeBSD clause - it just makes life harder on the cuurrent FreeBSD RELEASE - or change it. See below. "Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/SimGear-0.3/source/simgear/sound > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv27687/sound >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Simgear-cvslogs]

2004-12-02 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > Ok, this sounds reasonable. I assume this means that the isnan() > problems are fixed in newer versions of FreeBSD? To be honest: I don't know if the current handling in FreeBSD-5.3 is _correct_, I just can state that the clause you introduced at this place annoyed th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New scenery build

2004-12-04 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > I am currently working on building the latest round of world scenery for > FlightGear. I'm not done, so don't consider this to be the "official" > announcement. However, for those that want to get a jump on the > competition, you can find the new scenery here: I had

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New scenery build

2004-12-04 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: > I had a quick look at my favourite airfield yesterday and I saw that > the modified airport generator somehow shows similarities to TaxiDraw: > They both don't render stopways. Although the shape of the green > boundary suggests the presence of a stopway,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New scenery build

2004-12-05 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: > I had a quick look at my favourite airfield yesterday and I saw that > the modified airport generator somehow shows similarities to TaxiDraw: > They both don't render stopways. Would someone please be so kind to comment on this claim ? Did I get things

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New scenery build

2004-12-05 Thread Martin Spott
"David Luff" wrote: > There appear to be no stopway textures in the FlightGear base package, so > without digging through the genapts runway generation code (yet) I'm > guessing that stopways aren't supported by genapts yet. Ah, fine - I already thought I'd be crazy probably I actually am s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New scenery build

2004-12-05 Thread Martin Spott
"David Luff" wrote: > [...] The latest TaxiDraw > code shows stopways as an ugly shade of yellow ochre BTW [...] That's great ! To complete the picture, would you consider to add a visual marker for the threshold ? Probably you could later add a property to this marker that connects to the - if p

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solaris/GPU recommendations sought!

2004-12-06 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > I guess the SGI Prism is out of the question then: > http://www.sgi.com/products/visualization/prism/configs.html I think it won't run any OS but Linux Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! ---

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