Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS binary (fred) from 28.03.2010 - freeze without any log entry and freeze with a black screen

2010-03-30 Thread Oliver Thurau
Hello Fred Yes the latest data version (30.03.2010) crashes FG. With the data from 28 th and 29 th FGFS runs nice. With the version from 29 th I can see the landmass effect with the price of a huge drop of frame rate (45 fps down to 20 fps). With the version from 30 th the screen goes black as

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS binary (fred) from 28.03.2010 - freeze without any log entry and freeze with a black screen

2010-03-30 Thread Frederic Bouvier
I am not sure I understand the situation. Do you mean the last version of the shader crash fgfs ? If it's the case, what is your hardware setup ? > what means no cube map? I was replying to a side question earlier in this thread about a patch Vivian mentioned to make the new Lightning F1 wor

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS binary (fred) from 28.03.2010 - freezewithout any log entry and freeze with a black screen

2010-03-30 Thread Vivian Meazza
Oliver, The patch has been available since Sunday. There is no delay – it always takes this long. Vivian -Original Message- From: Oliver Thurau [mailto:oli.thu...@googlemail.com] Sent: 30 March 2010 21:29 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS binary (fred) from 28.03.2010 - freeze without any log entry and freeze with a black screen

2010-03-30 Thread Oliver Thurau
Hello Fred After trying the settings i figured the landmass shader causes the crash. After reading the post of the topping I was trying to check out 29 th and 27 and figured I was always getting the same files. It seems my version of tortoise cvs when set to German has issues with the Date. It use

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS binary (fred) from 28.03.2010 - freeze without any log entry and freeze with a black screen

2010-03-30 Thread Frederic Bouvier
But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html > > --- Oliver Thurau schrieb am Di, 30.3.2010: > > Von: Oliver Thurau > Betreff: Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS binary (fred) from 28.03.2010 - freeze > without any log entry and freeze with a black screen > An: "Flight

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS binary (fred) from 28.03.2010 - freeze without any log entry and freeze with a black screen

2010-03-30 Thread Heiko Schulz
this may be the cause of the freezing.  still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html --- Oliver Thurau schrieb am Di, 30.3.2010: Von: Oliver Thurau Betreff: Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS binary (fred) from 28.03.2010 - freeze withou

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS binary (fred) from 28.03.2010 - freeze without any log entry and freeze with a black screen

2010-03-30 Thread Oliver Thurau
Hello Fred Thanks for the quick response and sorry for the unspecified error report... figured today I send that mail instead of saving it. for options & shaders: - CVS data matches the binary data (28th) - Shaders are all active (no urban shader), - Options: automatic trees, ai-models, time-noon

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS binary (fred) from 28.03.2010 - freeze without any log entry and freeze with a black screen

2010-03-30 Thread Frederic Bouvier
as I wondered why he uses a win32, as you also have a win64 package available. > > still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html > But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html > > --- Frederic Bouvier schrieb am Di, 30.3.2010: > > Von: Frederic Bouvi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS binary (fred) from 28.03.2010 - freeze without any log entry and freeze with a black screen

2010-03-30 Thread Heiko Schulz
Betreff: Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS binary (fred) from 28.03.2010 - freeze without any log entry and freeze with a black screen An: "FlightGear developers discussions" Datum: Dienstag, 30. März, 2010 10:09 Uhr #yiv689103692 p {margin:0;}A lot of applications are still Win32, including Vis

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS binary (fred) from 28.03.2010 - freeze without any log entry and freeze with a black screen

2010-03-30 Thread Frederic Bouvier
ng, as I somewhere hear a similar problem (Not FGFS) > still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html > But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html > > --- Frederic Bouvier schrieb am Di, 30.3.2010: > > Von: Frederic Bouvier > Betreff: Re: [Flightgear-

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS binary (fred) from 28.03.2010 - freeze without any log entry and freeze with a black screen

2010-03-30 Thread Heiko Schulz
Bouvier Betreff: Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS binary (fred) from 28.03.2010 - freeze without any log entry and freeze with a black screen An: "FlightGear developers discussions" Datum: Dienstag, 30. März, 2010 09:41 Uhr #yiv1641570632 p {margin:0;}> are you really running a FGFS win

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS binary (fred) from 28.03.2010 - freeze without any log entry and freeze with a black screen

2010-03-30 Thread Frederic Bouvier
> are you really running a FGFS win32 on a win64? > If so, that could be the problem. Why ? -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://my.fotolia.com/frfoto/ Photo gallery - album photo http://www.youtube.com/user/fgfred64 Videos ---

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS binary (fred) from 28.03.2010 - freeze without any log entry and freeze with a black screen

2010-03-30 Thread Heiko Schulz
-devel] CVS binary (fred) from 28.03.2010 - freeze without any log entry and freeze with a black screen An: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Datum: Dienstag, 30. März, 2010 01:27 Uhr What steps will reproduce the problem? 1. loading FG with any plane at KSFO or Moffet 2. after plane

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS binary (fred) from 28.03.2010 - freeze without any log entry and freeze with a black screen

2010-03-29 Thread Buganini
Are the new binary compiled with patch ftp://ftp.abbeytheatre2.org.uk/fgfs/Shader/Reflect/cube-map.patch ? --Buganini -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS binary (fred) from 28.03.2010 - freeze without any log entry and freeze with a black screen

2010-03-29 Thread Frederic Bouvier
What about shaders and other rendering options ? Are the data in sync with the program ? Is there a rendering option where the problem doesn't arise ? (try to disable shaders one by one) - Fred - "Oliver Thurau" a écrit : > What steps will reproduce the problem? > 1. loading FG with a

[Flightgear-devel] CVS binary (fred) from 28.03.2010 - freeze without any log entry and freeze with a black screen

2010-03-29 Thread Oliver Thurau
What steps will reproduce the problem? 1. loading FG with any plane at KSFO or Moffet 2. after plane loading switch to outside view and look around 3. FG crashes after a couple of seconds without any log entry and freeze with a black screen. cpu load 100%. terragear seems to still work. What is t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Input/Joysticks/SpeedLinkblack-widow.xml, NONE, 1.1

2010-02-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Friday 12 February 2010: > It's an option - we're not racist here :-). We should look after everyone. OK, let me put it that way: it's a bug. Not that I really care ... m. -- SOLARIS 10 is the OS for D

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Input/Joysticks/SpeedLinkblack-widow.xml, NONE, 1.1

2010-02-12 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior wrote > > * Vivian Meazza -- Friday 12 February 2010: > > > > Microsoft-PC-Joysticktreiber > > So we have a new default joystick on German MS Vista installations? > Funny idea ... > > m. It's an option - we're not racist here :-). We should look after everyone. V.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Input/Joysticks/SpeedLink black-widow.xml, NONE, 1.1

2010-02-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Friday 12 February 2010: > > Microsoft-PC-Joysticktreiber So we have a new default joystick on German MS Vista installations? Funny idea ... m. -- SOLARIS 10 is the OS for Data Centers - provide

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/Scripting NasalSys.cxx, 1.129, 1.130

2009-12-19 Thread James Turner
On 19 Dec 2009, at 19:03, Vivian Meazza wrote: > Hey guys, don't we test code/scripts nowadays before stuffing it into CVS? Well the C++ code works - for this kind of thing I was lazy and hoped the person who requested the feature will test it and let me know if they encounter problems. I also

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/Scripting NasalSys.cxx, 1.129, 1.130

2009-12-19 Thread James Turner
On 19 Dec 2009, at 18:55, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > Still wrong. Since when do we use minus signs in variable names? Ah, that's annoying. Can't map property names to Nasal, since '-' is a token in Nasal. Hmmm. ilsFrequenceyMHz? ils_frequency_mhz? If there's a Nasal convention here please let

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/Scripting NasalSys.cxx, 1.129, 1.130

2009-12-19 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ wrote > > * James Turner -- Saturday 19 December 2009: > > - HASHSET("ils-frequency-mhz", 3, naNum(rwy->ILS()->get_freq() > / 100.0)); > > + HASHSET("ils-frequency-mhz", 17, naNum(rwy->ILS()->get_freq() > / 100.0)); > > Still wrong. Since when do we use minus sign

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/Scripting NasalSys.cxx, 1.128, 1.129

2009-12-19 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* James Turner -- Saturday 19 December 2009: > Onwards and upwards (in CVS, now). Shortest code review I've ever had (so > far!) Well, since people have taken over who pretend to know better (and I don't mean you), I can't be bothered to write verbose reports. :-P m. --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/Scripting NasalSys.cxx, 1.129, 1.130

2009-12-19 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* James Turner -- Saturday 19 December 2009: > - HASHSET("ils-frequency-mhz", 3, naNum(rwy->ILS()->get_freq() / > 100.0)); > + HASHSET("ils-frequency-mhz", 17, naNum(rwy->ILS()->get_freq() / > 100.0)); Still wrong. Since when do we use minus signs in variable names? m. --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/Scripting NasalSys.cxx, 1.128, 1.129

2009-12-19 Thread James Turner
On 19 Dec 2009, at 18:38, Melchior FRANZ wrote: >> + HASHSET("ils-frequency-mhz", 3, naNum(rwy->ILS()->get_freq() / >> 100.0)); > > FAIL Onwards and upwards (in CVS, now). Shortest code review I've ever had (so far!) James

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/Scripting NasalSys.cxx, 1.128, 1.129

2009-12-19 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* James Turner -- Saturday 19 December 2009: > + HASHSET("ils-frequency-mhz", 3, naNum(rwy->ILS()->get_freq() / > 100.0)); FAIL m. -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advan

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS HEAD - am 19 Sep

2009-09-19 Thread Alan Teeder
Can NOMINMAX be added to all the MSVC9 projects that need it at the same time please? -Original Message- From: Vivian Meazza [mailto:vivian.mea...@lineone.net] Sent: 19 September 2009 12:05 To: 'FlightGear developers discussions' Subject: [Flightgear-devel] CVS HEAD - am

[Flightgear-devel] CVS HEAD - am 19 Sep

2009-09-19 Thread Vivian Meazza
Hi, This morning's FG CVS head fails to compile under MSVC9 (nothing new there then!). Flightgear/source/src/ATCDCL/ATCVoice.cxx and ATIS.cxx are the problems. There's a fix here: http://gitorious.org/~vivian/fg/vivians-clone for those who want to attempt git. It works, but unfortunately it u

[Flightgear-devel] CVS permissions

2009-08-25 Thread Tim Moore
Hi Curtis, Can you fix the permissions on the flightgear/source/projects/VC90 subdirectory? Also, I suspect that the permissions are wrong on data/Shaders and data/Effects. Perhaps there's a way to configure CVS so that new directories are writable by all? Thanks, Tim ---

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS Win32 build FTP site error, and also was Re: Still Multiplayer Weirdness...

2009-07-27 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Hi, - "Rob Shearman, Jr." a écrit : > Speaking of CVS builds -- Fred, I see there's a new one on the FTP > site for 7/26, but I'm getting http error "550: Not a directory" when > I attempt to open it. Anyone else having this problem? My connection timed out yesterday evening with a half upload

[Flightgear-devel] CVS Win32 build FTP site error, and also was Re: Still Multiplayer Weirdness...

2009-07-27 Thread Rob Shearman, Jr.
Me: "This morning at around 0200UTC another user and I were to meet at KNZY (San Diego North Island Naval Air Station) to do a little for-fun dogfight practice. Both of us were on mpserver02. He was using one of Dave Culp's F4s and I was in the CVS A6E. However, although I could see his plane, h

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/Scripting NasalSys.cxx, 1.124, 1.125

2009-07-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Mathias Froehlich -- Sunday 07 June 2009: > Modified Files: > NasalSys.cxx > Log Message: > No need to zero the _props variable. > This reference is released by the SGSharedPtr destructor anyway. > > Modified Files: > src/Scripting/NasalSys.cxx > -_props = 0; Yes, but it's r

[Flightgear-devel] CVS SG RenderTexture fix

2009-07-01 Thread Geoff McLane
Hi All, This is a 'fix' to sgscreen library, for those with a glX extension implementation that still reports version 1.2... Wow, I got there!!! Boy I love coding when you persist, and try, and try some more, and you discover what makes it work ;=)) even when you do not fully 'understand' all tha

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Nasal pushback.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-05-05 Thread gerard robin
On mardi 05 mai 2009, Gijs de Rooy wrote: > Hi Torsten and others, > > > > I assumed that the function should also be accessible via other > > > means than just the dialog (e.g. keyboard bindings). If not, > > > then I absolutely agree with your change. That's the cleanest way. > > > > I'll leave t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Nasal pushback.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-05-05 Thread Torsten Dreyer
> The best solution is probably to make the magnitude be set per plane. > Large/heavy > > planes need more powerfull trucks than small ones, as we know. Even nicer > would be > > to have a slide for speed instead of power. But that's way to complicated > for me to > > make, even easy things are a c

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Nasal pushback.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-05-05 Thread Victhor
P pauses the simulation, but if you mean "P" as in uppercase P(ie. Shift +P), then it's okay. > Hi Torsten and others, > > > > I assumed that the function should also be accessible via other > > > means than just the dialog (e.g. keyboard bindings). If not, > > > then I absolutely agree with your

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Nasal pushback.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-05-05 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Hi Torsten and others, > > I assumed that the function should also be accessible via other > > means than just the dialog (e.g. keyboard bindings). If not, > > then I absolutely agree with your change. That's the cleanest way. > I'll leave this to the original author (Gijs) if he wants to extend

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Nasal pushback.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-05-05 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Torsten Dreyer -- Tuesday 05 May 2009: > [...] the truck (door) keeps moving until it reached its final > position. Probably because the underlying interpolate() function keeps > running until its finished. Yes. But you can immediately stop the movement on with the aircraft.door.stop() method

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Nasal pushback.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-05-05 Thread Torsten Dreyer
> I assumed that the function should also be accessible via other > means than just the dialog (e.g. keyboard bindings). If not, > then I absolutely agree with your change. That's the cleanest way. I'll leave this to the original author (Gijs) if he wants to extend the functionality that way. If s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Nasal pushback.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-05-05 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Torsten Dreyer -- Tuesday 05 May 2009: > I moved the initialization of the aircraft.door object into the > pushback.xml when the dialog is opened. I assumed that the function should also be accessible via other means than just the dialog (e.g. keyboard bindings). If not, then I absolutely agree

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Nasal pushback.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-05-05 Thread Torsten Dreyer
> Let's help Gijs to make it work for the 747-400 and then we will see > what is needed or not so we use this feature the bestway. > > Again, now that it is commited, everyone can bring its ideas. That's > exactly what you are doing Heiko :-) So thanks. Thanks Gijs and Alexis for bringing pushback

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Nasal pushback.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-05-04 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Monday 04 May 2009: > - it uses variable names: Which would be fine, of course. I meant: *bad* variable names ;-) m. -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Nasal pushback.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-05-04 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Alexis Bory - xiii -- Monday 04 May 2009: > But I do not have the piece which is necessary for testing. I didn't test it either. It's just obviously wrong (and ugly :-). Wrong, because ... - it uses aircraft.door before that is guaranteed to exist - because it doesn't use "var" where it should

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Nasal pushback.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-05-04 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Hi guys, I've sent this code to Alexis, so he could commit it to CVS, without knowing that files within the $FG_ROOT/Nasal directory are automaticly loaded with every aircraft. On my machine the file gave no errors at all. Therefore it's hard for me to find what I did wrong supposendly. Lu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Nasal pushback.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-05-04 Thread Curtis Olson
Right, we don't get too bent out of shape if problems and bugs are discovered in newly committed code, as long as the person responsible is aggressively pursuing the issues and fixing them as quickly as possible. (No one is perfect on the first try every time.) But that said, we really like to kee

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Nasal pushback.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-05-04 Thread Alexis Bory - xiii
Heiko Schulz wrote: > > > May I ask something here? Why there is something comitted, which > isn't tested yet? But commiting to the CVS is the faster way to get usefull feed back and gather differents opinions on a proposal. > A generic pushback sounds nice, but so much as I > understood, the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Nasal pushback.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-05-04 Thread Heiko Schulz
May I ask something here? Why there is something comitted, which isn't tested yet? A generic pushback sounds nice, but so much as I understood, the feature is only for JSBSim and all the JSBsim aircafts who wants to use this feature, needs an update. At least there should be one aircraft exam

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Nasal pushback.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-05-04 Thread Alexis Bory - xiii
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Alexis Bory -- Monday 04 May 2009: > > Added Files: pushback.nas > > This is not only verbose and ugly code, it will cause error messages > and not work on some machines. Just saying ... > > m. :-} Hi Melchior, I did not had such a strong feeling when receiving Gijs

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Nasal pushback.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-05-04 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Alexis Bory -- Monday 04 May 2009: > Added Files: > pushback.nas This is not only verbose and ugly code, it will cause error messages and not work on some machines. Just saying ... m. :-} -- Register Now & Sav

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/Scripting NasalSys.cxx, 1.120, 1.121

2009-03-19 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Frederic Bouvier -- Thursday 19 March 2009: > Support old compilers - if(argc < 2 or argc > 3) + if(argc < 2 || argc > 3) Argh ... sorry! That's a contamination from Nasal. I don't get why g++ doesn't turn this nonsense off by default. Won't happen again. m. --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/Autopilot xmlauto.cxx, 1.36, 1.37

2009-03-15 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior Franz -- Sunday 15 March 2009: > Modified Files: > xmlauto.cxx > Log Message: > > Merge branch 'master' of ../.fg.osg Sorry, should have been: Roy V. OVESEN: Actually initialize Ti and Td to the values in the config file. I used to fix such mishaps by changing the log mess

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml , 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-15 Thread gerard robin
On dimanche 15 février 2009, Nicolas Quijano wrote: > Gerard, you're not getting it : if I want wildfire to spread when I crash a > Crusader, you shouldn't have a say in it, period. > Let me try to explain it from the user's perspective : a user of both the > dev's creation, the simulation, and in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml , 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-15 Thread Nicolas Quijano
Gerard, you're not getting it : if I want wildfire to spread when I crash a Crusader, you shouldn't have a say in it, period. Let me try to explain it from the user's perspective : a user of both the dev's creation, the simulation, and in this case, your a/c. I'm the one piloting the Crusader, and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml , 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-15 Thread Alexis Bory - xiii
gerard robin wrote: > I was STUPID since, i thought that the modelers were free to create > the Aircraft in order to answer to these old criteria ( best FDM, eye > candy). I noticed now that we are dependent of some constraints, we > must accept anything coming from the mind of DEVELOPPER who

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml , 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-15 Thread gerard robin
On dimanche 15 février 2009, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:36:30 + (GMT), Stuart wrote in message > > > ..then you have exotic compromises like crashing on ice, dead stick > landings in methane clouds downwind of broken pipelines, ripe full > hydrazine tanks as you ditch in free

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml , 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-15 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Sébastien MARQUE -- Sunday 15 February 2009: > I'm quite "surprised" not to see someone purpose an other solution which > is only to override wildfire.ignite() function in a single aircraft, as > we are used to do for brakes, or starting engines. That's because this is *still* wrong. This is a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml, 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-15 Thread Sébastien MARQUE
Hi all, I understand the both point of view about wildfire and "gaming" issues. but I think that changing wildfire-on-crash property is not a good solution because it is registered, but it is also a problem if an aircraft designer wants to create his own crash animation. I'm quite "surprised"

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml , 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-15 Thread gerard robin
On dimanche 15 février 2009, Detlef Faber wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 15.02.2009, 09:45 +0100 schrieb Detlef Faber: > > Am Samstag, den 14.02.2009, 23:15 +0100 schrieb gerard robin: > > > On samedi 14 février 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > > > * Gerard Robin -- Saturday 14 February 2009: > > > > > Lo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml , 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-15 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:36:30 + (GMT), Stuart wrote in message <628624.58015...@web26003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>: > > gerard robin wrote: > > On dimanche 15 février 2009, Ron Jensen wrote: > > > Respectfully I must disagree with you here. This is a system > > > feature and should not be adjuste

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml, 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-15 Thread Detlef Faber
Am Sonntag, den 15.02.2009, 09:45 +0100 schrieb Detlef Faber: > Am Samstag, den 14.02.2009, 23:15 +0100 schrieb gerard robin: > > On samedi 14 février 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > > * Gerard Robin -- Saturday 14 February 2009: > > > > Log Message: > > > > withdraw the "game coat" > > > > > > > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml, 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-15 Thread Detlef Faber
Am Samstag, den 14.02.2009, 23:15 +0100 schrieb gerard robin: > On samedi 14 février 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > * Gerard Robin -- Saturday 14 February 2009: > > > Log Message: > > > withdraw the "game coat" > > > > > > + > > > + > > > + false > > > +

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml , 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-14 Thread gerard robin
On dimanche 15 février 2009, Laurent wrote: > IMHO, in that case this is a bug about when wildfire should be > started. If the plane is actually missing a landing on water, it > should be detected by the main program as it, not as a land crash. A > catalina crashing on land should create fire. Deac

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml , 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-14 Thread Stuart Buchanan
gerard robin wrote: > On dimanche 15 février 2009, Ron Jensen wrote: > > Respectfully I must disagree with you here. This is a system feature > > and should not be adjusted in random aircraft -set files. It is > > properly set in preferences.xml and autosave.xml, not each aircraft -set > > file

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusa der Crusader-SetBase.xml , 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-14 Thread gerard robin
On dimanche 15 février 2009, gerard robin wrote: > On dimanche 15 février 2009, Ron Jensen wrote: > > On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 23:56 +0100, gerard robin wrote: > > > On samedi 14 février 2009, gerard robin wrote: > > > > On samedi 14 février 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > > > > * Gerard Robin -- Satu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusa der Crusader-SetBase.xml , 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-14 Thread Anders Gidenstam
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009, gerard robin wrote: > That is part of a model. > > Can you imagine a Catalina gently crashing on water ( when landing) gerring > Wildfire ? If you haven't noticed: Water does not burn. But yes, one would like to have the possibility the insert an aircraft specific function

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader

2009-02-14 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Curtis Olson -- Saturday 14 February 2009: > > No I think Melchior is justified (as occasionally can be the case) :-) > > :-P > > > We could simply default wild fires to off in the preferences.xml file and > > that is perhaps the thing to do. > > Exactly, and as I've

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml , 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-14 Thread Laurent
IMHO, in that case this is a bug about when wildfire should be started. If the plane is actually missing a landing on water, it should be detected by the main program as it, not as a land crash. A catalina crashing on land should create fire. Deactivate wildfire for the whole environment is not the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusa der Crusader-SetBase.xml , 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-14 Thread gerard robin
On dimanche 15 février 2009, Ron Jensen wrote: > On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 23:56 +0100, gerard robin wrote: > > On samedi 14 février 2009, gerard robin wrote: > > > On samedi 14 février 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > > > * Gerard Robin -- Saturday 14 February 2009: > > > > > Log Message: > > > > > wit

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml, 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-14 Thread Ron Jensen
On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 23:56 +0100, gerard robin wrote: > On samedi 14 février 2009, gerard robin wrote: > > On samedi 14 février 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > > * Gerard Robin -- Saturday 14 February 2009: > > > > Log Message: > > > > withdraw the "game coat" > > > > > > > > + > > > > +

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml, 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-14 Thread gerard robin
On samedi 14 février 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Gerard Robin -- Saturday 14 February 2009: > > Log Message: > > withdraw the "game coat" > > > > + > > + > > + false > > + > > + > > AIRCRAFT MUST *NOT* CHANGE SYSTEM SETTING! > > This s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml, 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-14 Thread gerard robin
On samedi 14 février 2009, gerard robin wrote: > On samedi 14 février 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > * Gerard Robin -- Saturday 14 February 2009: > > > Log Message: > > > withdraw the "game coat" > > > > > > + > > > + > > > + false > > > + > > > +

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml, 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-14 Thread gerard robin
On samedi 14 février 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Gerard Robin -- Saturday 14 February 2009: > > Log Message: > > withdraw the "game coat" > > > > + > > + > > + false > > + > > + > > AIRCRAFT MUST *NOT* CHANGE SYSTEM SETTING! > > This s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader

2009-02-14 Thread Martin Spott
Curt, Curtis Olson wrote: > Wild fires are a newly added feature to CVS, the table is wide open for > discussion if anyone cares to discuss the issue. Let's not bring our pet > peaves into the discussion, that only obfuscates the real issues. What you are trivializing by calling it our pet peev

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader

2009-02-14 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis Olson -- Saturday 14 February 2009: > No I think Melchior is justified (as occasionally can be the case) :-) :-P > We could simply default wild fires to off in the preferences.xml file and > that is perhaps the thing to do. Exactly, and as I've said before: | Melchior FRANZ -- Saturd

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader

2009-02-14 Thread Curtis Olson
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Martin Spott wrote: > Curtis Olson wrote: > > > No I agree, we shouldn't be mixing policy and capability up like this. > > Well, as long as the Flightgear development crowd fails at establishing > procedures that, for example, allow to negotiate on 'moderate' syst

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader

2009-02-14 Thread Curtis Olson
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Martin Spott wrote: > Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > * Gerard Robin -- Saturday 14 February 2009: > >> Log Message: > >> withdraw the "game coat" > > > >> + > >> + > >> + false > >> + > >> + > > > > > > AIRCRAF

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader

2009-02-14 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis Olson wrote: > No I agree, we shouldn't be mixing policy and capability up like this. Well, as long as the Flightgear development crowd fails at establishing procedures that, for example, allow to negotiate on 'moderate' system settings (or whatever is at stake), you can't expect people to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader

2009-02-14 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Gerard Robin -- Saturday 14 February 2009: >> Log Message: >> withdraw the "game coat" > >> + >> + >> + false >> + >> + > > > AIRCRAFT MUST *NOT* CHANGE SYSTEM SETTING! > > This setting disqualifies the F8 for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml, 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-14 Thread Curtis Olson
No I agree, we shouldn't be mixing policy and capability up like this. These things should be set at an application level according to individual user preference, it always turns into a big mess when an aircraft author tries to change global settings from within an aircraft. It also leads to suppo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml, 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-14 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Gerard Robin -- Saturday 14 February 2009: > Log Message: > withdraw the "game coat" > + > + > + false > + > + AIRCRAFT MUST *NOT* CHANGE SYSTEM SETTING! This setting disqualifies the F8 for inclusion in a release. Oh, well. Why do I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/Boeing314 Boeing314A.xml,

2009-01-21 Thread Tim Moore
Martin Spott wrote: > Tim Moore wrote: >> Martin Spott wrote: >>> Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Boeing314 In directory baron.flightgear.org:/tmp/cvs-serv11895 Modified Files: Boeing314A.xml Log Message: Add the license

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/Boeing314 Boeing314A.xml, 1.5, 1.6

2009-01-21 Thread syd adams
Maybe I'm being naive here , but wouldn't be easier to jusr remove the word "Boeing" from the files ? -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/Boeing314 Boeing314A.xml, 1.5, 1.6

2009-01-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:06:42 +0100, gerard wrote in message <200901211406.42997.ghma...@gmail.com>: > On mercredi 21 janvier 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > * Erik Hofman -- Wednesday 21 January 2009: > > [...] > > > > > Modified Files: > > > Boeing314A.xml > > > Log Message: > > > Add the lice

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/Boeing314 Boeing314A.xml,

2009-01-21 Thread Martin Spott
Tim Moore wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: > > Erik Hofman wrote: > >> Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Boeing314 > >> In directory baron.flightgear.org:/tmp/cvs-serv11895 > >> > >> Modified Files: > >> Boeing314A.xml > >> Log Message: > >> Add the license statement > >> > >> +

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/Boeing314 Boeing314A.xml,

2009-01-21 Thread Tim Moore
Martin Spott wrote: > Erik Hofman wrote: >> Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Boeing314 >> In directory baron.flightgear.org:/tmp/cvs-serv11895 >> >> Modified Files: >> Boeing314A.xml >> Log Message: >> Add the license statement >> >> + This simulation model is not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/Boeing314 Boeing314A.xml,

2009-01-21 Thread gerard robin
On mercredi 21 janvier 2009, Martin Spott wrote: > Erik Hofman wrote: > > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Boeing314 > > In directory baron.flightgear.org:/tmp/cvs-serv11895 > > > > Modified Files: > > Boeing314A.xml > > Log Message: > > Add the license statement > > > > +

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/Boeing314 Boeing314A.xml,

2009-01-21 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Boeing314 > In directory baron.flightgear.org:/tmp/cvs-serv11895 > > Modified Files: > Boeing314A.xml > Log Message: > Add the license statement > > + This simulation model is not endorsed by the manufacturer.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/Boeing314 Boeing314A.xml,

2009-01-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#DoesTheGPLAllowMoney "Does the GPL allow me to sell copies of the program for money? Yes, the GPL allows everyone to do this. The right to sell copies is part of the definition of free software. Except in one special situation, there is no limit on what pr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/Boeing314 Boeing314A.xml,

2009-01-21 Thread Stefan Seifert
On Wednesday, 21. January 2009, Martin Spott wrote: > b) The GPL states that "You may charge a fee for the physical act of > transferring a copy, [...]", but "You may not copy, modify, sublicense, > or distribute the Program except as expressly provided under this > License". > > Now, how would yo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/Boeing314 Boeing314A.xml, 1.5, 1.6

2009-01-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* gerard robin -- Wednesday 21 January 2009: > I was told by a layer, since we are writing that the model is copyrighted > protected under Licence GPLV2 , we may write anything we want as addons > regarding the protection, these addons won't be taken in account , and one > may ignore it. That

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/Boeing314 Boeing314A.xml,

2009-01-21 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Erik Hofman -- Wednesday 21 January 2009: > > + > > + GPL (General Public License) > > + http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html > > + > > + > > + [...]This model > > + is not to be sold. > > + >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/Boeing314 Boeing314A.xml, 1.5, 1.6

2009-01-21 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Erik Hofman -- Wednesday 21 January 2009: > [...] >> Modified Files: >> Boeing314A.xml >> Log Message: >> Add the license statement > >> + >> + GPL (General Public License) >> + http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html >> + >> +

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/Boeing314 Boeing314A.xml, 1.5, 1.6

2009-01-21 Thread gerard robin
On mercredi 21 janvier 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Erik Hofman -- Wednesday 21 January 2009: > [...] > > > Modified Files: > > Boeing314A.xml > > Log Message: > > Add the license statement > > > > + > > + GPL (General Public License) > > + http://www.gnu.org/lic

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/Boeing314 Boeing314A.xml, 1.5, 1.6

2009-01-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Wednesday 21 January 2009: [...] > Modified Files: > Boeing314A.xml > Log Message: > Add the license statement > + > + GPL (General Public License) > + http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html > + > + > + [...]This mode

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS simgear/magvar/coremag.cxx error

2009-01-08 Thread Ron Jensen
On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 18:39 +, Geoff Air wrote: > > Could someone with simgear CVS access please fix the coremag.cxx file. > Each time I checkout (or update) this file has this in its head :- > > <<< coremag.cxx > // $Id: coremag.cxx,v 1.5 2006-10-28 22:12:48 curt Exp $ > === > // $

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS simgear/magvar/coremag.cxx error

2009-01-08 Thread Anders Gidenstam
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Geoff Air wrote: > Could someone with simgear CVS access please fix the coremag.cxx > file.Each time I checkout (or update) this file has this in its head :- > > <<< coremag.cxx// $Id: coremag.cxx,v 1.5 2006-10-28 22:12:48 curt Exp $===// $Id: coremag.cxx,v 1.6 2008/0

[Flightgear-devel] CVS simgear/magvar/coremag.cxx error

2009-01-08 Thread Geoff Air
Could someone with simgear CVS access please fix the coremag.cxx file.Each time I checkout (or update) this file has this in its head :- <<< coremag.cxx// $Id: coremag.cxx,v 1.5 2006-10-28 22:12:48 curt Exp $===// $Id: coremag.cxx,v 1.6 2008/07/25 18:35:42 ehofman Exp $>>> 1.6

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: SimGear/simgear/scene/model SGMaterialAnimation.cxx, 1.8, 1.9

2008-12-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior Franz -- Sunday 21 December 2008: > Modified Files: > SGMaterialAnimation.cxx > Log Message: > > Merge branch 'master' of ../.sg.osg Whoops, sorry. I thought this problem with my git<=>cvs gateway wouldn't happen any more. The correct log text is the following (and it's also fix

[Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Nasal view.nas, 1.40, 1.41 aircraft.nas, 1.77, 1.78 geo.nas,

2008-11-20 Thread gerard robin
Modified Files: view.nas aircraft.nas geo.nas globals.nas Log Message: make constants D2R, R2D, M2FT, FT2M global Is there anything modified within geo.nas ? Is there any consequence when using it ? Thanks -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ J'ai décidé d'être heureux parce

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS CitationX and Bravo segfault at EGPF

2008-10-23 Thread James Turner
On 23 Oct 2008, at 16:14, Alasdair Campbell wrote: > Thanks to Csaba for helping out with the C++. This works a treat. I > attach the complete patch for fixing the MK_VIII problems. Could some > check and commit please? Looks good to me, someone please apply. James ---

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