I found a bug in the KR-87 adf code. The ANT and ADF annunciators are
wrong. After fixing this, how do I proceed to update the CVS repository?
I've also modified the KR-87 instrument XML-file to make it behave acording
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that cliping the summer (as the example does) does not solve the windup
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(deflection angle) to do it's job.
The solution to this is to stop the intergation when the actuator goes
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I'm looking to implement, but sadly my knowlege about
the jsbsim structure is so limited that I could not think of a way to do
it. Maybe the SWITCH component could be used as an if structure?
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This is the solution I'm looking to implement, but sadly my knowlege
about the jsbsim structure is so limited that I could not think of a
way
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The solution to this is to stop the intergation when the actuator goes
into saturation.
Aha! Good explanation. Yes, I think this should
been searching my textbooks on control systems and found a few PID
controller algorithms. I could begin to implement one that takes care of
the integrator windup problem and has some other usefull features.
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Cub does not have an attitude indicator instrument, a wing-leveler would
not be available. And in addition the heading hold would not be allowed to
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Let me share my thoughts about the autopilot:
* I would like to see the autopilot move from c++ code into the
instrument configuration xml-files.
This is my general plan. Right now I have
;
ep_n_1 = ep_n;
edf_n_2 = edf_n_1;
edf_n_1 = edf_n;
}
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between the controller that
controls the Vertical Speed and the one that controls Altitude.
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to be a good thing. ;-)
Does this imply that we also need a summer class/unit/module which can
take the outputs from various controllers and sum them to feed to the
actuator?
Yes, a summer class/unit/module would be a handy tool. A gain
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that is within X feet of the target. At which time it switches
to an
altitude hold mode. AFAIK there are some aircraft that will even fly
into the
ground if you setup a descent and ARM a target altitude above where the
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../heading -++---+ /controls/...
What's inside the black box? That's what I want to configure.
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knows what's inside the autopilot, how can we make one?
I want do design the black box, that is the kind of flexibility I'm
looking for.
Besides, I don't think it makes sense to have black boxes in an open
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* Recognizing that there are a number of different strategies to implement
a wing-leveler, or any other function, you are tied to the one that is
hardcoded in C++.
* The controller algorithm don't have integrator anti-windup (wich I
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/indicated-altitude-ft/property
/binding
.../altitude-ft is assigned the value of .../indicated-altitude-ft
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need.
By the way, did you get my reply with answers and the updated PID
algorithm?? I'm not sure I got through your spam-filter.
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:40:38 +0100, Roy Vegard Ovesen
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I just downloaded the Pilot's Guide from this link:
http://www.n612sp.com/KAP%20140%20AUTOPILOT.pdf
It seems that this pdf file does not contain the entire document. For the
complete document use this link:
http
zsh 4.0.6-5
Use -h to see help about each section
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export CFLAGS=$CXXFLAGS
./configure
Norman
The -DNOMINMAX flag worked, thanks!
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| 0.5Kpu | inf. | 0 |
PI | 0.45Kpu | Tu/1.2 | 0 |
PID | 0.6Kpu | Tu/2 | Tu/8 |
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If the dynamics are in the order of the time between two frames then I
guess it would. Still, I of course think that we should do it right, as
Curt has done in generic-autopilot.xml.
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missed is the fact that newauto.cxx is no longer
used, it has been removed from the makefile. So many of the properties
under /autopilot/config/ do no longer apply.
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On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 17:10:07 -, Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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The obvious thing you missed is the fact that newauto.cxx is no longer
used, it has been removed from the makefile. So many of the properties
under /autopilot/config/ do no longer
these instruments are, so maybe increasing the responsiveness isn't a good
idea.
2) Add another output property from the turn indicator instrument with
higher responsiveness.
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bug as reference to a controller it would have turned
right all the way from 10 deg to 350 deg through 180 deg, insted of just
turning left from 10 to 350. Our solution was to figure out how many
degrees left (negative) or right (positive) we need to turn.
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when using cygwin. Try
uninstalling XFree86. If you have XFree86 installed the make process tries
to use the GL libs from XFree86 (or something like that), and it looks
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From: Roy Vegard Ovesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am currently in the process of implementing the Bendix/King KAP 140
autopilot. This is a rate based autopilot, it uses the turn rate and
rate
of climb as its primary inputs
On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 00:05:00 +0100, Roy Vegard Ovesen
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I'm thinking that adding a second indicated-turn-rate property that is
filtered with a higher bandwidth would be a good solution.
I just tried this, and the control system performance boost was quite
noticable
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Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote:
So I shouldn't touch the responsiveness then?!. But rather add a new
property with better responsiveness.
Out of curiosity, why do you think that the responsiveness should be
better
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Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote:
David Megginson wrote:
Originally, the TC responded instantly -- I had to do a fair bit of
work adding the slight lag to make it work like a real TC. The lag
smooths out the indication a bit.
So I
copy and pasting into a new buffer, plus display of time or byte
position.
You can chose to display time or sample position, but the time display has
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someplace in SimGear.
But if you are just looking for the true flight path the beforementioned
GPS instrument provides this. Take a look at /instruments/gps/... in the
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, but I would like to extend that to a higher number in order
to create a route (the GPS III Pilot can have 30 in each route). Routes
could then be stored in plain text files, as could user waypoints.
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, etc?
Yet another thought that seems to get mentioned here occasionally: a
nearest
airport function.
Yes, the Garmin GPS III Pilot does have a nearest airport function. The
algorithm for finding the nearest airport would be similar to the
algorithm finding the nearest METAR station.
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In file included from /usr/include/w32api/GL/glu.h:37,
from glut_shapes.c:59:
/usr/include/w32api/GL/gl.h:80:1: warning: this is the location of the
previous definition
make[5]: *** [glut_shapes.o] Error 1
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I should mention that I am using Cygwin.
I get this error when building SimGear:
if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../../../simgear -I../../../..
-pipe -O2 -Wall -DWIN32 -DNOMINMAX -D_REENTRANT -MT
the pitchladder texture only display inside the circle?
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that the texture stacking for 2D instruments causes OpenGL state
changes that are expensive, at least with my graphics card (GeForce2Go).
Alright then. I'll convert my intrument(s) to 3D.
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that this is a bug, perhaps in plib.
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Was this in PLIB 1.6, again? The alpha transparency is fine using the
CVS plib.
I'm pretty sure it was CVS plib.
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`/home/royvegar/FlightGear-0.9/source/src'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
What I really don't understand is the [in-charge] thing.
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CFLAGS=$CXXFLAGS
export LDFLAGS
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that particular piece of code (where the error
is filtered).
Summary: Set Ti to zero to completely eliminate integrator action. Set Td
to zero to completely eliminate derivative action.
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but IMHO trivial in the scope of things. All
you are doing is creating work for others.
I've changed the property names back to indicated-*.
Get the files:
http://home.tiscali.no/rvovesen/gps.cxx
http://home.tiscali.no/rvovesen/gps.hxx
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Coordinator. I was forwarded to the engineering
department but never got an answer. When I try to model the actual gyro
instruments it would be wery helpful to have engineering data. I just hope I
don't keep getting ignored. :-(
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Hi!
How about a log that records running time for each system (electrical, static,
vacum etc.) and for the instruments and possibly the controls and ... This
log can be stored in the users home directory as a simple text file (XML).
There would be different logs for each individual aircraft.
a new
issue with this update.
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On Friday 16 April 2004 23:38, Andy Ross wrote:
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Is there any way to play sounds from a Nasal script?
Sort of. The current sound model is property-driven. You can create
a new sound event (see the *-sound.xml files under Aircraft for
examples) and drive it from
a fgcommand to play
sounds. That would then be trivial to call from Nasal, right?
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XML configuration files. Thanks Andy!
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instead of KDE to make sure that KDE was not useing the
sound device, but I got the same error.
I've also tried the orbz demo (a game) that is supposed to use OpenAL. That
worked fine (under KDE), so I guess that there is nothing wrong with: sound
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a shot at building a 3D cockpit. I've studied some
pictures at www.airliners.net and found them to be a valueable source. If
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the ident or change frequencies.
That is likely because the kr-87 adf is also active but it does not have a
instrument panel in the default C172. You can turn it off through the
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* Roy Vegard Ovesen -- Sunday 25 April 2004 11:44:
Flightgear and Simgear builds ok on SuSE Linux 9.0, but when I try to run
Flightgear I get this error message:
Initializing OpenAL sound manager
fgfs: pcm.c:1050: snd_pcm_writei
, then the name became somthing else without the (R).
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On Tuesday 27 April 2004 16:05, Andy Ross wrote:
Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote:
I get this error when compiling ATCVoice.cxx
It looks like you did a CVS update in FlightGear without grabbing
the required changes from SimGear. Curt changed the API
yesterday.
I'm sure I grabbed Simgear too, but I
aircraft.
One could put the kap140.nas in the *set.xml for the aircrafts that use the
KAP140 instrument, but I believe it would be better to make it instrument
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document soon,
and will have a block diagram with this, too.
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Is it a problem with the set up on my
end?
You can of course edit your *set.xml file to change the autopilot back to the
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started working on it).
If anyone creates instruments or autopilots based on the gps module, keep in
mind that the property names could change and brake your work. I'm sorry for
this inconvenience but the gps module is work-in-progress (isn't
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On Wednesday 05 May 2004 11:55, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote:
The default Cessna (--aircraft=c172-3d and c172-2dpanel) have changed
autopilot from the generic to a KAP140 autopilot.
I announced this change on this list
http://baron.flightgear.org/pipermail/flightgear-devel/2004-April/027384.html
for
the aircraft. The entry for the C172 is around line 40:
systems
autopilot
pathAircraft/c172p/Systems/KAP140.xml/path
/autopilot
***
/systems
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started
work on this model:
http://home.tiscali.no/rvovesen/king_air_ext.jpg
http://home.tiscali.no/rvovesen/king_air_cockpit.jpg
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. It looks to me like you have carefully chosen the cartesian
coordinates to place the number labels at.
I opened the postscript file with Gimp. Upon opening, one can select the
resolution (DPI) and the amount of anti-aliasing of graphics and text
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c172p-set.xml. This is the file that you have to modify.
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alpha. For antialiased edges this works very well. Downside is of course that
it is much more work :-(
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Melchior's example and
start from there!
I used the example file to recreate the King Air Fuel Gauge, and I'm
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and u_max around line 137 in generic-autopilot.xml
to allow the autopilot to command a greater bank angle say 40 degrees instead
of the current 20 degrees. But this might cause the autopilot to overshoot
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* Roy Vegard Ovesen -- Friday 21 May 2004 23:26:
This @() function proved to be very powerfull and it made creating scales
very easy.
I changed this to a unary operator #. So one can now write #10 and metapost
will replace
?
I was planning on using the alias feature for a lot of switches, instead of
making a lot of 3d-instrument config files.
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formats such as .3DS)
try moving the transparent parts to the bottom of the object
hierarchy/list.
How do I do that? Editing the .AC file with a text editor?
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model, and the gauge face texture is included to the model through the model
xml config file. I suspect that this is what is causing the problem.
Regards,
Ampere
On June 4, 2004 06:25 pm, Lee Elliott wrote:
On Friday 04 June 2004 21:44, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote:
Here is a shot of the King
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On Saturday 05 June 2004 21:34, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote:
Frederic's solution to change the order using select animation in the xml
file worked great.
Ooops! That wasn't select animation it was just null animation or whatever I
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to my post:
http://baron.flightgear.org/pipermail/flightgear-devel/2004-May/028549.html
Thanks!
Can anyone confirm that the alias feature can not be used for the 3d animation
code?!
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