Re: Docbook bookfile

2014-11-21 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Thanks all … for your kind concerns about me trying to do a docbook experiment in the DITA ages …. I have been working with docbook (variants) already back in the FrameMaker 5.5 days, so for docbook has been there in FM, I know. And it still is. In the early days this < support> was not

Re: Docbook bookfile

2014-11-21 Thread Alan Houser
Whoa ... FrameMaker has "supported" Docbook for many releases. But the support is generally poor, and is for a relatively ancient version of DocBook (4.1). Anybody who attempts to use FrameMaker for a real Docbook-based workflow (particularly for authoring) is in for a lot of hurt.

Re: Docbook bookfile

2014-11-21 Thread Robert Lauriston
I couldn't find any documentation of DocBook support before FM12. Not that there's much in FM12's docs, either. On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Scott Prentice wrote: > FM has provided support for docbook since 7.2. It's been weak and incomplete > (as it still is), b

Re: Docbook bookfile

2014-11-21 Thread Scott Prentice
FM has provided support for docbook since 7.2. It's been weak and incomplete (as it still is), but it's been there. If you poke around in the structure applications, you'll see an xdocbook app. Wim .. in order to use docbook effectively in FM, you'll need to do a bit of de

Re: Docbook bookfile

2014-11-21 Thread Robert Lauriston
I doubt there are many FrameMaker DocBook users, since support was just added in FM12. In structured mode it should not convert XML to .fm. If you don't have FM12, I suggest downloading an eval copy. On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:42 AM, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp wrote: > Now when I open a

Re: Docbook bookfile

2014-11-21 Thread Heiko Haida
). best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp: > I'll redefine my question: > for a specific use case I'm investigating the option of using a docbook book > file to let my client edit and maintain their docbook-based xml files in a > book-like setting.

Re: Docbook bookfile

2014-11-21 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
I’ll redefine my question: for a specific use case I’m investigating the option of using a docbook book file to let my client edit and maintain their docbook-based xml files in a book-like setting. Analog to the ditamap. Now when I open a docbook book file in FM, FM converts it directly to a

Re: Docbook bookfile

2014-11-20 Thread Robert Lauriston
FrameMaker 12 is alleged to support DocBook. On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp wrote: > Hi, are there any docbook users out there …? > > I want to make a docbook book file with referenced 'chapters' (xml). To be > maintained in Framemaker as XML. I

Docbook bookfile

2014-11-20 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Hi, are there any docbook users out there …? I want to make a docbook book file with referenced 'chapters' (xml). To be maintained in Framemaker as XML. Is that possible at all? Any help from docbook gurus appreciated …! Thanks, Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards, Wim H

RE: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-11 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Robert Lauriston said: > Neither do PDFs, which are superior in pretty much every way. Yes, they are good in many ways, but PDFs don't flow across pages as smoothly as Kindle documents on a Kindle when things like the font-size, etc., are changed. Z

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-11 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Robert Lauriston said: > Neither do PDFs, which are superior in pretty much every way. Yes, they are good in many ways, but PDFs don't flow across pages as smoothly as Kindle documents on a Kindle when things like the font-size, etc., are changed. Z

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-11 Thread Robert Lauriston
Neither do PDFs, which are superior in pretty much every way. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: > Kindle books do _not_ require a live Internet connection while reading! ___ You are currently subscribed

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-11 Thread Robert Lauriston
Neither do PDFs, which are superior in pretty much every way. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > Kindle books do _not_ require a live Internet connection while reading!

RE: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-11 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Rebecca Officer wrote: ? You can buy the electronic version from http://comtech-serv.com//index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=28_3&products_id=10. ? I really like ebooks. I'm reading it already. Thanks for t

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-11 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Rebecca Officer wrote: ? You can buy the electronic version from http://comtech-serv.com//index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=28_3&products_id=10. ? I really like ebooks. I'm reading it already. Thanks for t

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-11 Thread rebecca officer
You can buy the electronic version from http://comtech-serv.com//index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=28_3&products_id=10. I really like ebooks. I'm reading it already. Thanks for your replies, everyone. It's been very helpful! Rebecca >>> Alan T Litchfield 10/07/13 15:31 >>> Unfortunate

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread rebecca officer
You can buy the electronic version from http://comtech-serv.com//index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=28_3&products_id=10. I really like ebooks. I'm reading it already. Thanks for your replies, everyone. It's been very helpful! Rebecca >>> Alan T Litchfield 10/07/13 15:31 >>> Unfortunately,

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Unfortunately, that book cannot be sold internationally by Amazon. :( Alan On 10/07/13 2:19 PM, Writer wrote: > Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA. > > Nadine > >> >> This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found >> that the sample appli

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
If you can't find another option, you can have it forwarded to you by this company: http://www.shipito.com/shop-pricing They give you a US address to ship it to, and then they forward it to you. There are a few company that do mail forwarding, but I found this one to be the cheapest. It would pro

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Rebecca Your to-do list is pretty accurate. I've added my comments below, preceded by [Yves]>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:49 AM, rebecca officer < rebecca.officer at alliedtelesis.co.nz> wrote: Hi everyone Thanks very much for your answers. I really appreciate the expertise on this list. [Yve

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Writer
> Subject: Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema > > Unfortunately, that book cannot be sold internationally by Amazon. :( > > Alan > > On 10/07/13 2:19 PM, Writer wrote: >> Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA. >> >> Nadine >

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Writer
:49 PM > Subject: Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema > > Unfortunately, that book cannot be sold internationally by Amazon. :( > > Alan > > On 10/07/13 2:19 PM, Writer wrote: >> Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA. >> >>

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Rebecca Your to-do list is pretty accurate. I've added my comments below, preceded by [Yves]>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:49 AM, rebecca officer < rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz> wrote: Hi everyone Thanks very much for your answers. I really appreciate the expertise on this list. [Yves]>

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
If you can't find another option, you can have it forwarded to you by this company: http://www.shipito.com/shop-pricing They give you a US address to ship it to, and then they forward it to you. There are a few company that do mail forwarding, but I found this one to be the cheapest. It would p

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Unfortunately, that book cannot be sold internationally by Amazon. :( Alan On 10/07/13 2:19 PM, Writer wrote: Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA. Nadine This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found that the sample application that

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Writer
Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA. Nadine > >This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found >that the sample application that is developed was very straightforward to >implement in FrameMaker. It won't teach you everything you need to k

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Writer
Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA. Nadine > >This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found >that the sample application that is developed was very straightforward to >implement in FrameMaker. It won't teach you everything you need to k

RE: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
Amen to that! Craig -Original Message- And unless you're very clever, it's easy to paint yourself into a corner with an in-house system. It might be "simple" to develop something for what your needs are now, but you neglect to make it open-ended or scalable for whatever changes you nee

RE: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found that the sample application that is developed was very straightforward to implement in FrameMaker. It won't teach you everything you need to know about DITA, but all the basics are there. http://www.amazon.com/Intro

RE: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
similar text had to change as well. The conversion process uncovered numerous places where such changes had been not been done or was done incompletely. Craig snipped- IMHO, Docbook vs DITA is a choice between ecosystems. While Docbook is leaning towards the narrative, and DITA

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Rebecca I don't think any content maps perfectly to DITA, which is logical. But then again, you can specialize DITA to make it match your content. Some will even say that DITA must be specialized. Others have already given you some good arguments in favor of DITA or DocBook. With DITA

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
Amen to that! Craig -Original Message- And unless you're very clever, it's easy to paint yourself into a corner with an in-house system. It might be "simple" to develop something for what your needs are now, but you neglect to make it open-ended or scalable for whatever changes you nee

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found that the sample application that is developed was very straightforward to implement in FrameMaker. It won't teach you everything you need to know about DITA, but all the basics are there. http://www.amazon.com/Introd

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
similar text had to change as well. The conversion process uncovered numerous places where such changes had been not been done or was done incompletely. Craig snipped- IMHO, Docbook vs DITA is a choice between ecosystems. While Docbook is leaning towards the narrative, and DITA towards

RE: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
Okay, I'll start from the assumption that DITA or Docbook as standards are the way to go if you don't want to spend all kinds of time and money on development. Of course changing to DITA or Docbook will cost time and money, too. Just less of both. So which: DITA or Docbook DI

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread John Sgammato
r list of what you save by using > DITA/docbook instead of developing your own schema? > > The content maps reasonably well to DITA, but not perfectly. I'm trying to > figure out whether we're better off working within the limitations of DITA, > or whether we should take

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Rebecca I don't think any content maps perfectly to DITA, which is logical. But then again, you can specialize DITA to make it match your content. Some will even say that DITA must be specialized. Others have already given you some good arguments in favor of DITA or DocBook. With DITA

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Kristy Nolan
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DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread rebecca officer
Does anyone know of a nice, clear list of what you save by using DITA/docbook instead of developing your own schema? The content maps reasonably well to DITA, but not perfectly. I'm trying to figure out whether we're better off working within the limitations of DITA, or whether we s

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Alan Houser
ross-references, images, etc. The latter set can be a bit tricky. Plus, oh, your metadata. With DITA or DocBook, you also get a publishing framework. Also usually non-trivial to create from scratch, especially if you are publishing to multiple output formats, using filtering, content re-use, etc

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Craig Ede
Okay, I'll start from the assumption that DITA or Docbook as standards are the way to go if you don't want to spend all kinds of time and money on development. Of course changing to DITA or Docbook will cost time and money, too. Just less of both. So which: DITA or Docbook DITA is

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread John Sgammato
lear list of what you save by using > DITA/docbook instead of developing your own schema? > > The content maps reasonably well to DITA, but not perfectly. I'm trying to > figure out whether we're better off working within the limitations of DITA, > or whether we should take

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Writer
e. And then there's portability... Nadine > > From: Alan Houser >To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" >Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 6:50:36 PM >Subject: Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema > > > >I gotta generally agree with M

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Writer
e. And then there's portability... Nadine > > From: Alan Houser >To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" >Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 6:50:36 PM >Subject: Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema > > > >I gotta generally agree with M

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Scott Prentice
All good info. More reasons to use DITA or DocBook is the availability of off-the-shelf authoring, publishing, and file management (CMS) tools. Also, personnel support (authoring and development) .. it is much easier to find people to work on one of the "standards" than your cu

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Scott Prentice
All good info. More reasons to use DITA or DocBook is the availability of off-the-shelf authoring, publishing, and file management (CMS) tools. Also, personnel support (authoring and development) .. it is much easier to find people to work on one of the "standards" than your cu

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Alan Houser
ross-references, images, etc. The latter set can be a bit tricky. Plus, oh, your metadata. With DITA or DocBook, you also get a publishing framework. Also usually non-trivial to create from scratch, especially if you are publishing to multiple output formats, using filtering, content re-u

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Matt Sullivan
risty.no...@wnco.com> wrote: I will add frustration to that list. We have modified a version of DocBook called FlightBook. The modification of the modification leads to many issues in getting the pieces to work together. By sticking with the standard, there should not be as many issue

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Matt Sullivan
Nolan wrote: > I will add frustration to that list. We have modified a version of DocBook > called FlightBook. The modification of the modification leads to many issues > in getting the pieces to work together. By sticking with the standard, there > should not be as many iss

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Kristy Nolan
I will add frustration to that list. We have modified a version of DocBook called FlightBook. The modification of the modification leads to many issues in getting the pieces to work together. By sticking with the standard, there should not be as many issues.  Kristy On Jul 8, 2013, at

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Matt Sullivan
A list of what you'll save using DITA or DocBook rather than creating your own schema: Time Money (Hey, someone had to say it…) -Matt On Jul 8, 2013, at 12:06 AM, "rebecca officer" wrote: > Does anyone know of a nice, clear list of what you save by using DITA/doc

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Matt Sullivan
A list of what you'll save using DITA or DocBook rather than creating your own schema: Time Money (Hey, someone had to say it?) -Matt On Jul 8, 2013, at 12:06 AM, "rebecca officer" wrote: > Does anyone know of a nice, clear list of what you save by using DITA/doc

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread rebecca officer
Does anyone know of a nice, clear list of what you save by using DITA/docbook instead of developing your own schema? The content maps reasonably well to DITA, but not perfectly. I'm trying to figure out whether we're better off working within the limitations of DITA, or whether we s

From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-09 Thread qui...@airmail.net
t, it would be easier to simply open the FM files in Structured FrameMaker and add the structure there. Scott > > Hi Mathieu, > > Frame ships with a DocBook structured application. ([Frame installation > folder]\structure\sgml\docbook\app) which includes the EDD and a starter >

Re: From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-08 Thread quills
t, it would be easier to simply open the FM files in Structured FrameMaker and add the structure there. Scott Hi Mathieu, Frame ships with a DocBook structured application. ([Frame installation folder]\structure\sgml\docbook\app) which includes the EDD and a starter template. So, what you

From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-08 Thread LW White
Hi Mathieu, Frame ships with a DocBook structured application. ([Frame installation folder]\structure\sgml\docbook\app) which includes the EDD and a starter template. So, what you would do is basically open your DocBook files using the DocBook structured app, which is called something like

Re: From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-08 Thread LW White
Hi Mathieu, Frame ships with a DocBook structured application. ([Frame installation folder]\structure\sgml\docbook\app) which includes the EDD and a starter template. So, what you would do is basically open your DocBook files using the DocBook structured app, which is called something like

From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I really don't know docbook, but *if* you can export it as a .doc file or .rtf, you can open it straight in frame. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 07-Jul-10 4:30 PM, Steve Johnson wrote: > If it's that little content I would bring it in as plain text and

From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread mathieu jacquet
My post might be unclear because I do not know neither DocBook nor structured Frame. I created a Getting Started Guide in unstructured Frame. As said before, it is really light (cover, TOC, LOF, LOT, 3 chapters). The client is very happy with styles, content, etc. Now, he is telling me that

From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread Gary Schnabl
On 7/7/2010 8:56 AM, mathieu jacquet wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I am working on Vista 64 with FM 9. > > I have read that it was possible to import DocBook files into FM. But I've > also read that this could turn to nightmare when it comes to create the > proper EDD. I a

From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread mathieu jacquet
Well, I have not been clear enough. We actually have a lot of content in DocBook, and very little in unstructured FM (one book only, 3 chapters, about 75 pages) so far. The thing is, if we need structured FM to import DocBook files, then I'd like also to turn my unstructured book i

From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread mathieu jacquet
Hi everybody, I am working on Vista 64 with FM 9. I have read that it was possible to import DocBook files into FM. But I've also read that this could turn to nightmare when it comes to create the proper EDD. I am not familiar at all with structured Frame. So my question is, how easy i

Re: From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread Gary Schnabl
On 7/7/2010 8:56 AM, mathieu jacquet wrote: Hi everybody, I am working on Vista 64 with FM 9. I have read that it was possible to import DocBook files into FM. But I've also read that this could turn to nightmare when it comes to create the proper EDD. I am not familiar at all

From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread James L
> > Hi everybody, > > I am working on Vista 64 with FM 9. > > I have read that it was possible to import DocBook files into FM. But I've > also read that this could turn to nightmare when it comes to create the > proper EDD. I am not familiar at all with structured Fr

From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread Steve Johnson
> > I am working on Vista 64 with FM 9. > > I have read that it was possible to import DocBook files into FM. But I've > also read that this could turn to nightmare when it comes to create the > proper EDD. I am not familiar at all with structured Frame. So my question &

Re: From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I really don't know docbook, but *if* you can export it as a .doc file or .rtf, you can open it straight in frame. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 07-Jul-10 4:30 PM, Steve Johnson wrote: If it's that little content I would bring it in as plain text and r

RE: From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread mathieu jacquet
My post might be unclear because I do not know neither DocBook nor structured Frame. I created a Getting Started Guide in unstructured Frame. As said before, it is really light (cover, TOC, LOF, LOT, 3 chapters). The client is very happy with styles, content, etc. Now, he is telling me that

Re: From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread Steve Johnson
> > I am working on Vista 64 with FM 9. > > I have read that it was possible to import DocBook files into FM. But I've > also read that this could turn to nightmare when it comes to create the > proper EDD. I am not familiar at all with structured Frame. So my question &

Re: From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread James L
> > Hi everybody, > > I am working on Vista 64 with FM 9. > > I have read that it was possible to import DocBook files into FM. But I've > also read that this could turn to nightmare when it comes to create the > proper EDD. I am not familiar at all with structured Fr

RE: From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread mathieu jacquet
Well, I have not been clear enough. We actually have a lot of content in DocBook, and very little in unstructured FM (one book only, 3 chapters, about 75 pages) so far. The thing is, if we need structured FM to import DocBook files, then I'd like also to turn my unstructured book i

From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread mathieu jacquet
Hi everybody, I am working on Vista 64 with FM 9. I have read that it was possible to import DocBook files into FM. But I've also read that this could turn to nightmare when it comes to create the proper EDD. I am not familiar at all with structured Frame. So my question is, how easy i

Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-28 Thread Garnier Garnier
Hello Framers, ? Thanks to all who have responded to my request. It is sincerely appreciated.. Special thanks to Gary Schnabl for providing multiple feedback. ? The response will definitely help me to evaluate DocBook further. ? Regards Garnier ? -Original Message- From: framers-bounces

RE: Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-27 Thread Garnier Garnier
Hello Framers,   Thanks to all who have responded to my request. It is sincerely appreciated.. Special thanks to Gary Schnabl for providing multiple feedback.   The response will definitely help me to evaluate DocBook further.   Regards Garnier   -Original Message- From: framers-boun

Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
Garnier Garnier wrote: > Hello Listers, > > I am about to explore DocBook. I am sure some of the listers must be using it > or have used it in the past. Could you please share your experience? Went > through some of the details over the net and it seems a good tool to switch &g

Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Garnier Garnier
Hello Listers, ? I am about to explore DocBook. I am sure some of the listers must be using it or have used it in the past. Could you please share your experience? Went through some of the details over the net and it seems a good tool to switch to but involves a very deep learning curve. Is

Re: Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
Garnier Garnier wrote: > Hello Listers, > > I am about to explore DocBook. I am sure some of the listers must be using it > or have used it in the past. Could you please share your experience? Went > through some of the details over the net and it seems a good tool to switch &g

Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Mollye Barrett
I have used DocBook for many years. As a structure model, DocBook is robust and met all our needs for documenting heavy equipment in 24 languages. It is well developed and well supported. Given the development work is done up front, some people learn quickly while others struggle. On the

Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
Art Campbell wrote: > Gary, > Hasn't 5.1 been released to fix the problems that 5.0 had? I was > hearing about it, but don't use it (yet) so I haven't tracked it down. > > Art > Found this while searching for 5.1: DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minute

Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
Art Campbell wrote: > Gary, > Hasn't 5.1 been released to fix the problems that 5.0 had? I was > hearing about it, but don't use it (yet) so I haven't tracked it down. > > Art > > Art Campbell > I did not know that 5.1 was available. The DTD nonnormative version of 5.0 was admittedly incomplet

RE: Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Mollye Barrett
I have used DocBook for many years. As a structure model, DocBook is robust and met all our needs for documenting heavy equipment in 24 languages. It is well developed and well supported. Given the development work is done up front, some people learn quickly while others struggle. On the

Re: Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
Art Campbell wrote: > Gary, > Hasn't 5.1 been released to fix the problems that 5.0 had? I was > hearing about it, but don't use it (yet) so I haven't tracked it down. > > Art > Found this while searching for 5.1: DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minute

Re: Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
Art Campbell wrote: > Gary, > Hasn't 5.1 been released to fix the problems that 5.0 had? I was > hearing about it, but don't use it (yet) so I haven't tracked it down. > > Art > > Art Campbell > I did not know that 5.1 was available. The DTD nonnormative version of 5.0 was admittedly incomplet

Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Art Campbell
2 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Gary Schnabl wrote: > Garnier Garnier wrote: >> Hello

Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
Garnier Garnier wrote: > Hello Listers, > > I am about to explore DocBook. I am sure some of the listers must be using it > or have used it in the past. Could you please share your experience? Went > through some of the details over the net and it seems a good tool to switch &g

Re: Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Art Campbell
2 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Gary Schnabl wrote: > Garnier Garnier wrote: >> Hello Lis

Re: Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
Garnier Garnier wrote: > Hello Listers, > > I am about to explore DocBook. I am sure some of the listers must be using it > or have used it in the past. Could you please share your experience? Went > through some of the details over the net and it seems a good tool to switch &g

Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Garnier Garnier
Hello Listers,   I am about to explore DocBook. I am sure some of the listers must be using it or have used it in the past. Could you please share your experience? Went through some of the details over the net and it seems a good tool to switch to but involves a very deep learning curve. Is

FM9 & DocBook (was FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?)

2009-06-22 Thread Diane Gaskill
Thank you very much Lynn. This helps a lot. Diane -Original Message- From: Lynne A. Price [mailto:lpr...@txstruct.com] Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 1:08 PM To: Diane Gaskill; Frame Users; Free Framers Subject: Re: FM9 & DocBook (was FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth th

RE: FM9 & DocBook (was FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?)

2009-06-22 Thread Diane Gaskill
Thank you very much Lynn. This helps a lot. Diane -Original Message- From: Lynne A. Price [mailto:lpr...@txstruct.com] Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 1:08 PM To: Diane Gaskill; Frame Users; Free Framers Subject: Re: FM9 & DocBook (was FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth th

Re: FM9 & DocBook (was FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?)

2009-06-20 Thread Lynne A. Price
At 11:36 AM 6/18/2009, Diane Gaskill wrote: >Here's another FM9 question. I can't find anything on the Adobe website >about this. Does anyone know if FM9 supports a version of DocBook later >than 4.2? FM8 supports only DB 4.2 and there are some serious >limitations. Un

FM9 & DocBook (was FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?)

2009-06-20 Thread Lynne A. Price
At 11:36 AM 6/18/2009, Diane Gaskill wrote: >Here's another FM9 question. I can't find anything on the Adobe website >about this. Does anyone know if FM9 supports a version of DocBook later >than 4.2? FM8 supports only DB 4.2 and there are some serious >limitations. Un

Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?)

2008-10-31 Thread Shuttleworth, Roger
user comments (DocBook?) One additional note, MoinMoin wiki can be configured to allow users to output content as/via/through (not sure of the right terminology) DocBook. I haven't explored this yet to see whether that's HTML output or PDF output (or both). This is something I'd lik

Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?)

2008-10-31 Thread Michael O'Neill
One additional note, MoinMoin wiki can be configured to allow users to output content as/via/through (not sure of the right terminology) DocBook. I haven't explored this yet to see whether that's HTML output or PDF output (or both). This is something I'd like to know more abo

Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?)

2008-10-31 Thread Michael O'Neill
ramers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Crimmin, Peter Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 7:49 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?) [cross-posted to TECHWR-L mailing list]

Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?)

2008-10-31 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
ad, Mif2Go can still help, but in that case you should also look at DITA-FMx: http://www.leximation.com/dita-fmx/ Either way, going from DITA to/from wiki sounds like a very good way to go. While DocBook is a lot older, DITA can do everything DocBook can, and much much more. For a discuss

Re: Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?)

2008-10-31 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
eady set up for DITA instead, Mif2Go can still help, but in that case you should also look at DITA-FMx: http://www.leximation.com/dita-fmx/ Either way, going from DITA to/from wiki sounds like a very good way to go. While DocBook is a lot older, DITA can do everything DocBook can, and much much

RE: Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?)

2008-10-31 Thread Shuttleworth, Roger
, Canada -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael O'Neill Sent: October 31, 2008 3:16 PM To: Crimmin, Peter; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?) One additional note, Moi

RE: Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?)

2008-10-31 Thread Michael O'Neill
One additional note, MoinMoin wiki can be configured to allow users to output content as/via/through (not sure of the right terminology) DocBook. I haven't explored this yet to see whether that's HTML output or PDF output (or both). This is something I'd like to know more abo

RE: Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?)

2008-10-31 Thread Michael O'Neill
L PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crimmin, Peter Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 7:49 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?) [cross-posted to TECHWR-L mailing list] Can anyone recommend technologies to do th

Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?)

2008-10-31 Thread Crimmin, Peter
this task...") * Management tools to moderate user comments, and to handle documentation updates (retaining the comments). * Authoring tools to produce said documentation. The open source community exploits these technologies. How do they do it? I have an inkling for a solution: FrameMaker>

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