On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 07:40:22AM -0800, Josef Grosch wrote:
While I do agree that FreeBSD does need work, the big pebble in my shoe
right now is a journaling file system (try doing a fsck on a 1TB file
system)
If you want journalling file system then the thing to do is to check out
At Thu, 11 Jan 2007 it looks like Nikolas Britton composed:
On 1/10/07, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I dunno..Linux got _somewhere_ before big money came into it.
Like I said..when Fbsd 2.5 was light _years_ ahead of Linux..sometime
after that, focus was lost.
USL v. BSDi
Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 10:59:20PM -0800, Jeff Mohler wrote:
Not all of us can program..but let me ask this question.
Linux is all volunteer, how did it get so far ahead?
It isn't. People in the know like FreeBSD as a server which
is where it
On 1/11/07, Bill-Schoolcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At Thu, 11 Jan 2007 it looks like Nikolas Britton composed:
On 1/10/07, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I dunno..Linux got _somewhere_ before big money came into it.
Like I said..when Fbsd 2.5 was light _years_ ahead of
Nikolas Britton wrote
Well that's just it... No way we could afford full rates, If we could
we would hire someone off the street to program x, y, and z to are
liking. I was talking about supporting someone who is already working
on x, y, and z because they have an itch to scratch... To help them
On 10/01/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A reason why you have less problems is I expect you using premium
hardware such as scsi, currently I am lucky enough to not be using
realtek lan cards although I am still having problems with intel nics.
I wouldn't term SCSI as premium. Maybe it
On 11/01/07, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The basic reason is that a ../.. walk invalidates cached metadata, and
you end up with a pipe full of getattr's all of the time. Freebsd-fs
has discussed this a bit, but no fixing is coming soon. We use linux
to compile builds, we'd like to
Just a few small notes ...
Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
realtek isnt great hardware but is that a good reason for realtek
performing significantly worse then on linux, shouldnt it be on par?
Mu old notebook (2001) has a realtek rl(4) card. It's not
rocket fast, but it just works with
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 07:52:29PM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 1/10/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/01/07, Josef Grosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:44:36AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 12:01:51AM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 11:07:04PM -0500, Dak Ghatikachalam wrote:
I think it is about time that FREEBSD OS gets the act together by
integrating all the plugins for firefox.
I have been trying to make these plugins work,
Really, isnt't that a Firefox/Mozilla thing, plus possibly the
Yes, they dont solve this whatsoever. Its a severely broken code
issue in the attr caching mechanism.
Honest..give it a shot. Even with very very slow ATA, local builds of
the kernel or world are faster than over 1G NFS to an F6000 series
filer, and the filer will still thrash on WAFL metadata
Oliver Iberien wrote:
At least this thread got me (desktop user, not especially technically
sophisticated) to go make a little donation to the FreeBSD Foundation, as it
is the one way I can help out, and show that I'm grateful for FreeBSD.
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 08:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 1/12/07, Nuno Henriques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I bought a FreeBSD Subscription
(http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/bsdsub6.2?id=Ja6Hth8umv_pc=70)
and the FreeBSD Handbook Set
(http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/bsdhandbk3.set?id=Ja6Hth8umv_pc=187),
and to this day, I'm still patiently
Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:
On 1/12/07, Nuno Henriques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I bought a FreeBSD Subscription
(http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/bsdsub6.2?id=Ja6Hth8umv_pc=70)
and the FreeBSD Handbook Set
(http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/bsdhandbk3.set?id=Ja6Hth8umv_pc=187),
and to
Hi FreeBSD
I am looking to know how to use perform the dialup using the chatscript for
the wireless card Ac850.
Is t this right place to ask this question.
Wow this is longest thread I have seen in my entire life about 73 people
replying about same topic and nearly he the same email. over
On 1/10/07, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 01:12:46AM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 1/10/07, Rico Secada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:01:51 -0600
Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FreeBSD is created and supported by volunteers.
[irrelevant cruft removed]
On Tuesday, 9 January 2007 at 23:54:02 -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 1/9/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 January 2007 at 17:08:45 -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
Why should I continue using FreeBSD when the project never delivers
on
Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe core needs to make it easier to direct are funds to the
sub-projects of are choice and still qualify it as a deductible
expense.
For accounting/tax purposes, aren't salary and benefits just as
deductible as contributions? Hire someone qualified
On 1/10/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[irrelevant cruft removed]
On Tuesday, 9 January 2007 at 23:54:02 -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 1/9/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 January 2007 at 17:08:45 -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
Why should I
On 1/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe core needs to make it easier to direct are funds to the
sub-projects of are choice and still qualify it as a deductible
expense.
For accounting/tax purposes, aren't salary and benefits just
Jeff Mohler wrote:
Fbsd needs SAN support before it can cope with
virtualization..virtualization requires a lot of disk..spindles..and
FCP/iSCSI is a great way to drive this condensation.
I mean..when you have to read this list, and see people wonder which
end of a SAN connection owns the
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 12:01:51AM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 1/9/07, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FreeBSD is created and supported by volunteers.
Seems like you just posted a nice list of things
for you to get busy and contribute.
I don't have time to contribute
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 10:59:20PM -0800, Jeff Mohler wrote:
Not all of us can program..but let me ask this question.
Linux is all volunteer, how did it get so far ahead?
It isn't. People in the know like FreeBSD as a server which
is where it is mostly targeted - to the professional
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 01:12:46AM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 1/10/07, Rico Secada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:01:51 -0600
Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FreeBSD is created and supported by volunteers.
Seems like you just posted a nice list of things
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 09:08:03PM -0800, Jeff Mohler wrote:
Fbsd needs SAN support before it can cope with
virtualization..virtualization requires a lot of disk..spindles..and
FCP/iSCSI is a great way to drive this condensation.
I mean..when you have to read this list, and see people wonder
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:44:36AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 12:01:51AM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 1/9/07, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FreeBSD is created and supported by volunteers.
Seems like you just posted a nice list of things
for
Nikolas Britton writes:
For accounting/tax purposes, aren't salary and benefits just as
deductible as contributions? Hire someone qualified as your
own full- or part-time employee, and assign them to work on the
projects that you want to support. As just one example, that's
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 04:35:12AM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 1/10/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[irrelevant cruft removed]
On Tuesday, 9 January 2007 at 23:54:02 -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 1/9/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday,
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 08:17:21AM -0800, Josef Grosch wrote:
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:44:36AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 12:01:51AM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 1/9/07, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FreeBSD is created and supported by
On 10/01/07, Josef Grosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:44:36AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 12:01:51AM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 1/9/07, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FreeBSD is created and supported by volunteers.
Jerry McAllister wrote:
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 08:17:21AM -0800, Josef Grosch wrote:
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:44:36AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 12:01:51AM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 1/9/07, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
havent much to contribute here but...
5 - journaling filesystem.
This exists in current, patches are available for 6-stable. I've not
stress tested it too much but its been nicely stable for me so far on
6-stable (non root partition as i havent yet had time to set that up)
see
On 2007-01-10 00:48, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/9/07, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 05:07:08PM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
Why then?
Various administrative delays, mostly. e.g. the main ftp distribution
server had hardware failure for a
On 10/01/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What I think freebsd needs.
1 - To fix stuff that works in linux but goes to crap in freebsd, one
such example is NFS.
I don't actually have a problem with FreeBSD and NFS. This is using about
20+ clients and 2 NetApp filers. What problem are you
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Scott Mitchell wrote:
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 10:54:11PM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 1/9/07, Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't know about some of the items, but...
-Flash support with Mozilla products is being done through
On 10/01/07, Freminlins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/01/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What I think freebsd needs.
1 - To fix stuff that works in linux but goes to crap in freebsd, one
such example is NFS.
I don't actually have a problem with FreeBSD and NFS. This is using about
20+
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 02:32:41PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote:
Scott and Nikolas,
I'll try to get the linuxplugin-wrapper port to work with Flash9
for Linux and then I'll submit the change upstream to the maintainer. I
too am tired of the fact that Flash is so ubiquitous, but don't
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 10:54:11PM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 1/9/07, Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't know about some of the items, but...
-Flash support with Mozilla products is being done through Mozilla's
ActionScript Engine:
On 1/10/07, Scott Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 02:32:41PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote:
Scott and Nikolas,
I'll try to get the linuxplugin-wrapper port to work with Flash9
for Linux and then I'll submit the change upstream to the maintainer. I
too am tired
1 - To fix stuff that works in linux but goes to crap in freebsd, one
such example is NFS.
I don't actually have a problem with FreeBSD and NFS. This is using about
20+ clients and 2 NetApp filers. What problem are you having, rather than
just goes to crap?
---
If for example you do a make
On 1/10/07, Robert Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nikolas Britton writes:
For accounting/tax purposes, aren't salary and benefits just as
deductible as contributions? Hire someone qualified as your
own full- or part-time employee, and assign them to work on the
projects that you
On 1/10/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/01/07, Josef Grosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:44:36AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 12:01:51AM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 1/9/07, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At least this thread got me (desktop user, not especially technically
sophisticated) to go make a little donation to the FreeBSD Foundation, as it
is the one way I can help out, and show that I'm grateful for FreeBSD.
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 08:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
So, if you
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Scott Mitchell wrote:
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 02:32:41PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote:
Scott and Nikolas,
I'll try to get the linuxplugin-wrapper port to work with Flash9
for Linux and then I'll submit the change upstream to the maintainer. I
I think it is about time that FREEBSD OS gets the act together by
integrating all the plugins for firefox.
I have been trying to make these plugins work,
not sure what more we need countering all plugins for firefox
which could make work all, right now I could only view the video in
I dunno..Linux got _somewhere_ before big money came into it.
Like I said..when Fbsd 2.5 was light _years_ ahead of Linux..sometime
after that, focus was lost.
Perhaps chosing to emulate instead of innovate (work smart not hard)
didnt pay off as well as everyone hoped.
..not that nobody worked
Jeff Mohler wrote:
Not all of us can program..but let me ask this question.
Linux is all volunteer, how did it get so far ahead?
http://news.com.com/2100-1001-825723.html
Brian
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This is a tired old thread
Please put it to bed
Don't keep it fed
Think positive instead
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Most of us are, understanding how we/it got here, IS positive.
What to do about it..is progress.
On 1/10/07, Bob McIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-- Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ? -
This is a tired old thread
Please put it to bed
Don't keep it fed
Think
On 1/10/07, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I dunno..Linux got _somewhere_ before big money came into it.
Like I said..when Fbsd 2.5 was light _years_ ahead of Linux..sometime
after that, focus was lost.
USL v. BSDi happened.
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On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 09:33:18AM -0800, Jim Pazarena wrote:
http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/01/08/a-shadow-lies-upon-all-bsd-distributions
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Gentoo/FreeBSD: license problems require a development pause
On 1/9/07, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 09:33:18AM -0800, Jim Pazarena wrote:
http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/01/08/a-shadow-lies-upon-all-bsd-distributions
-
Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 1/9/07, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 09:33:18AM -0800, Jim Pazarena wrote:
http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/01/08/a-shadow-lies-upon-all-bsd-distributions
On Tuesday, January 09, 2007, at 02:38PM, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Why then? Are you guys ever going to do something about Xorg DRI/DRM
for Radeon cards, Java, and Flash support? More importantly:
Why is another project's problems FreeBSD's problem?
Xorg isn't even in the base
On Tuesday, 9 January 2007 at 17:08:45 -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 1/9/07, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 09:33:18AM -0800, Jim Pazarena wrote:
http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/01/08/a-shadow-lies-upon-all-bsd-distributions
Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 1/9/07, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 09:33:18AM -0800, Jim Pazarena wrote:
http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/01/08/a-shadow-lies-upon-all-bsd-distributions
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:08:45 +0100, Nikolas Britton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why then? Are you guys ever going to do something about Xorg DRI/DRM
for Radeon cards, Java, and Flash support? More importantly:
Since when is Xorg a part of FreeBSD?
Java ports / Java-diablo anyone?
1. Xen Dom0
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 05:08:45PM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 1/9/07, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 09:33:18AM -0800, Jim Pazarena wrote:
http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/01/08/a-shadow-lies-upon-all-bsd-distributions
On 1/9/07, Peter Giessel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday, January 09, 2007, at 02:38PM, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Why then? Are you guys ever going to do something about Xorg DRI/DRM
for Radeon cards, Java, and Flash support? More importantly:
Why is another project's
On 1/9/07, Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't know about some of the items, but...
-Flash support with Mozilla products is being done through Mozilla's
ActionScript Engine:
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200611/110706Mozilla.html.
So, I expect the latest
On 1/9/07, Andreas Rudisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:08:45 +0100, Nikolas Britton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why then? Are you guys ever going to do something about Xorg DRI/DRM
for Radeon cards, Java, and Flash support? More importantly:
Since when is Xorg a part of
Fbsd needs SAN support before it can cope with
virtualization..virtualization requires a lot of disk..spindles..and
FCP/iSCSI is a great way to drive this condensation.
I mean..when you have to read this list, and see people wonder which
end of a SAN connection owns the responsibility for
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 23:07:55 -0600
Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why should I continue using FreeBSD when the project never delivers on
it promises?
Noone is forcing you to do so.
Let me restate that... I want to use FreeBSD, but the lack of progress
is driving me and
On 1/9/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You shouldn't! If you are that taken back - you certainly don't need the
issues of a project that does not deliver on it's promises.
On the other hand - feel free to use Microsoft's products because we all
know that they tend to keep promises AND, as a
On 1/9/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 January 2007 at 17:08:45 -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 1/9/07, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 09:33:18AM -0800, Jim Pazarena wrote:
On 1/9/07, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FreeBSD is created and supported by volunteers.
Seems like you just posted a nice list of things
for you to get busy and contribute.
I don't have time to contribute work, I have a business to manage as
well as other obligations that come
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:01:51 -0600
Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FreeBSD is created and supported by volunteers.
Seems like you just posted a nice list of things
for you to get busy and contribute.
I don't have time to contribute work, I have a business to manage as
well as
On 1/9/07, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fbsd needs SAN support before it can cope with
virtualization..virtualization requires a lot of disk..spindles..and
FCP/iSCSI is a great way to drive this condensation.
I mean..when you have to read this list, and see people wonder which
end of a
On 1/9/07, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 05:07:08PM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
Why then?
Various administrative delays, mostly. e.g. the main ftp distribution
server had hardware failure for a few weeks.
Shit happens and we did just change out the core
If I could program my way out of a _paper bag_ I would. But I cant.
But ive helped drive some wonderful gifting Fbsd's way in my time..im
still a believer.
On 1/9/07, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/9/07, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fbsd needs SAN support before it can
Not all of us can program..but let me ask this question.
Linux is all volunteer, how did it get so far ahead?
Granted I'll take ports over RPM's and such any day, but..ports hasnt
sucked up all of the Fbsd oxygen by itself in the last handful of
years.
On 1/9/07, Rico Secada [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 1/10/07, Colin Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nikolas Britton wrote:
I don't have time to contribute work, I have a business to manage as
well as other obligations that come first... I need this stuff to just
work... so I can get real things done.
In other words, you want us to hurry
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:48:39 -0600
Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am unhappy but I care too much about FreeBSD to just up and leave,
it may be time for a sabbatical though... And I complain because I
care... like a parent.
Trolling.
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On 1/10/07, Rico Secada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:01:51 -0600
Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FreeBSD is created and supported by volunteers.
Seems like you just posted a nice list of things
for you to get busy and contribute.
I don't have time to
Nikolas Britton wrote:
I don't have time to contribute work, I have a business to manage as
well as other obligations that come first... I need this stuff to just
work... so I can get real things done.
In other words, you want us to hurry up and do more unpaid work, so that
you can make more
On 1/10/07, Rico Secada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:48:39 -0600
Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am unhappy but I care too much about FreeBSD to just up and leave,
it may be time for a sabbatical though... And I complain because I
care... like a parent.
http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/01/08/a-shadow-lies-upon-all-bsd-distributions
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Gentoo/FreeBSD: license problems require a development pause
Jim Pazarena schrieb:
http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/01/08/a-shadow-lies-upon-all-bsd-distributions
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