BSD Question's.
To whom this may concern, H-E-L-P! LOL! I've been online since 1992( the windows 3.1 days for me.) I'm 48 yrs.old. and also a windows XP user. Because of recent issue I have had with Mr. William Gates and his product. about every 6 months I have had to overhaul my windows XP. during the last up grade I was told that my XP product code was invaild, then when is made the repair up grades something in my registory changed, and when that auto updater downloaded the new security patches it somehow downloaded 2969 trojans as well. I have decided to start the search for a new OS. In my case the new OS must be completely 100 percent user friendly. Please bare in mind that 100 percent means NO CODE writting. I'm not a programer...LOL! I run a very small one man company at, http://www.geocities.com/andy_sjostrom/index.html From time to time I also like to rip and burn a CD as well, Publish articles to my yahoo 360 blog. edit a few images from time to to time. surf the net, copy and paste, chat with friends in my favorite yahoo chat room. fold protiens for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] project at stanford U. (I'm on team #40154.) I also have a logitech Clicksmart420 that the new OS must be willing to accept. I've been doing some reading and every thing I have been able to find for OS's boils down to three basic choices. BSD Unix Linux A windows Hybird like ReactOS. There is one other very important thing Because I'm on a fixed income and things with me are very tight money wise the new OS must be free. Is there any thing you can do to help me. Such as point me in the right direction. . DA Consultants George A. Sjostrom II Helping those who can help them selves http://www.geocities.com/andy_sjostrom/index.html __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ipfilter upgrade
Has anybody tried to upgrade from the 3r branch of Ipfilter to 4th in FreeBSD 5.4? The procedure described in official document isn't correct - my kernel don't compile with ipfilter - couldn't create needed dependencies. Has anybody encountered such problem? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 08:10, Andy Sjostrom wrote: To whom this may concern, H-E-L-P! LOL! I've been online since 1992( the windows 3.1 days for me.) I'm 48 yrs.old. and also a windows XP user. Because of recent issue I have had with Mr. William Gates and his product. about every 6 months I have had to overhaul my windows XP. during the last up grade I was told that my XP product code was invaild, then when is made the repair up grades something in my registory changed, and when that auto updater downloaded the new security patches it somehow downloaded 2969 trojans as well. I have decided to start the search for a new OS. In my case the new OS must be completely 100 percent user friendly. Please bare in mind that 100 percent means NO CODE writting. I'm not a programer...LOL! I run a very small one man company at, http://www.geocities.com/andy_sjostrom/index.html From time to time I also like to rip and burn a CD as well, Publish articles to my yahoo 360 blog. edit a few images from time to to time. surf the net, copy and paste, chat with friends in my favorite yahoo chat room. fold protiens for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] project at stanford U. (I'm on team #40154.) I also have a logitech Clicksmart420 that the new OS must be willing to accept. I've been doing some reading and every thing I have been able to find for OS's boils down to three basic choices. BSD Unix Linux A windows Hybird like ReactOS. There is one other very important thing Because I'm on a fixed income and things with me are very tight money wise the new OS must be free. Is there any thing you can do to help me. Such as point me in the right direction. . DA Consultants George A. Sjostrom II Helping those who can help them selves http://www.geocities.com/andy_sjostrom/index.html Andy, Welcome. I understand your position, and if you will accept some thoughts from someone older than you by 10 years. Very few of the alternatives to Windows have the ability to run on any platform and it is likely that you will run into compatibility problems so you will need to be more aware of the hardware you are using including editing scripts etc. You are probably more used to doing things via a GUI. Whilst BSD does run either gnome or KDE etc, you will still need to do a fair amount via the command line even if it is just to get the GUI working. There is one tip here - read the handbook. The Linux Distributions are in general more suited to running a GUI and some install one as the default. I have not used any of the other versions of BSD (Net and Open) but FreeBSD is more suited to server applications although that is changing and it will run as a desktop machine. I would suggest that you try some to the Linux distributions - you can get or download live CD's which will run without being installed so you can try them before committing to an installation. ISTR that there is a FreeBSD live CD available. You can find out more about the various distributions at: http://distrowatch.com/ BTW, I used to say I'm no programmer but . Let me know if you have any questions. Rob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot start X
Teilhard Knight wrote: Hi: I just installed FreeBSD 6.0 on a P4 HT, and I cannot start X. Actually I want to start KDE; the .xinitrc is in place, but I couldn't start it before I wrote it, either. As I cannot copy and paste, I do not give you my xorg.conf file, but I need the i810 driver for a Realtek A'67 integrated sound device whose chip apparently is Intel. Hrm, isn't i810 the integrated video? Oh, yes, I am sorry. Don't know how I could mess things. Upon startx, I get in the end: (==) Using config file /etc/X11/xorg.conf [drm] failed to load kernel module i915 (EE) I810(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. start: not found. This looks suspiciously like a misconfiguration. Is the word start by itself in your .xinitrc, by chance? Yes, I didn't know it couldn't be used. I replaced my .xinitrc file to contain 'exec startkde', and all is well now. Thanks so much for your feedback. Teilhard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
USB mice
It seems to me that the way FreeBSD is catching up with new hardware leaves you unsatisfied. One has to choose, upon boot, the option to use an USB keyboard by hand, and I have found no way to make a USB mouse to work. The OS broadly supports serial mice and hardly PS/2 mice, both almost out of the market nowadays. Are USB mice supported by FreeBSD? Teilhard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB mice
Teilhard Knight wrote: It seems to me that the way FreeBSD is catching up with new hardware leaves you unsatisfied. One has to choose, upon boot, the option to use an USB keyboard by hand, and I have found no way to make a USB mouse to work. The OS broadly supports serial mice and hardly PS/2 mice, both almost out of the market nowadays. Are USB mice supported by FreeBSD? Teilhard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Currently all three systems which run FreeBSD have USB mice, two of them just plain Logitech optical mouses, the third is a Logitech MX 300, but every other mouse should work when you have enabled moused. Try plugin in the mouse when FreeBSD is up and running, it should detect it automatically -- -Frank Staals ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HP Scanner:: zilch
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 09:57:57PM -0700, Warren Block wrote: On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, Gary Kline wrote: My Epson requires this line in epson.conf: usb /dev/uscanner0 The hp.conf file kind of implies something similar, but I can't tell whether it would want the line above or this: /dev/uscanner0 option connect-device Hm, this is strange. I have two hp files in sane.d, both sseem oriented toward Linux. There is an entry for the 4100c in hp.conf, but it wants to create /dev/scanner. That line tells sane which device to use. In FreeBSD, that's /dev/uscanner0. How do I tell sane to use hp.conf (or my new hp4100.conf)? Do I need to put something in /etc/rc.conf, eg, or what? This is what I have the seems apropos: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/etc/sane.d# cat hp4100.conf # ##MODELED AFTER: ma1509.conf: see sane-ma1509(5) ##hp4100.conf: # #Warm-up time for the lamp in seconds ###option warmup-time 30 # # USB-scanners supported by the hp-backend # HP ScanJet 4100C usb 0x03f0 0x0101 #Manual setting (e.g. for FreeBSD) /dev/uscanner0 My best shot; round #1. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/etc/sane.d# ll hp* -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 497 Dec 22 16:40 hp.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 238 Oct 9 23:09 hp5400.conf From hp.conf:: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/etc/sane.d# more hp.conf scsi HP # Uncomment the following if you have Error during device I/O on SCSI # option dumb-read # # The usual place for a SCSI-scanner on Linux /dev/scanner # # USB-scanners supported by the hp-backend # HP ScanJet 4100C usb 0x03f0 0x0101 . . . Would it make sense to create an hp4100.conf with your epson line usb /dev/uscanner0 as a first line? It looks like all HP scanners other than the HP5400 are defined in hp.conf, so use that one. My rational against hp.conf is the ^/dev/scanner line as well as the first SCSI line. What does scsi HP do? I don't use SCSI in this FBSD server. I am missing /dev/uscanner0. How is this /dev created? When the kernel detects the USB scanner, it should create /dev/uscanner0. Should I uncomment the USB 2.0 device in my KERNCONF file? Back in 5.4 or so, my Thinkpad would not detect the scanner unless I hot-plugged the USB cable (leaving the scanner connected and just powering it on did not work). On a desktop system, just turning on the scanner with the USB cable works. All of this may have changed with 6.0, to which you should upgrade unless you have a very compelling reason to stick with the obsolete 5.3. I built my 5.4 upgrades a week+ ago. Installed kernel and world Thursday mornng. I'm using a desktop in office for this; my ThinkPad has no USB. Anyway, some part of the scanner hardware is trashed; part(s) being replaced. When I see /dev/uscanner0, things should look lots brighter. I hope. q2 16:27 tao [5015] kldstat Id Refs AddressSize Name 1 11 0xc040 5e7530 kernel 2 14 0xc09e8000 537f0acpi.ko 31 0xc1aaf000 2000 blank_saver.ko 41 0xc1ad1000 17000linux.ko 51 0xc2352000 3000 uscanner.ko Does this output look right? This may be right the scanner wasn't seen. I figured that by kldloading uscanner.ko, /dev/uscanner0 would be auto-created. I need some other magic. I have the USB modules in my kernel, so I don't see it in kldstat. AFAIK, three of my USB modules are builtins. Would you please grep usb your KERNEL file? gotta be something like this why uscanner0 isn't there. thanks much, gary -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB mice
Teilhard Knight wrote: It seems to me that the way FreeBSD is catching up with new hardware leaves you unsatisfied. One has to choose, upon boot, the option to use an USB keyboard by hand, and I have found no way to make a USB mouse to work. The OS broadly supports serial mice and hardly PS/2 mice, both almost out of the market nowadays. Are USB mice supported by FreeBSD? Teilhard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Currently all three systems which run FreeBSD have USB mice, two of them just plain Logitech optical mouses, the third is a Logitech MX 300, but every other mouse should work when you have enabled moused. Try plugin in the mouse when FreeBSD is up and running, it should detect it automatically It didn't work. Actually I have a little more than a USB mouse, I have a wireless mouse and wireless keyboard which are both controlled by a central unit which plugs into an USB port in the computer. The keyboard works well, with the option of booting with an USB keyboard, but I cannot make the mouse work. Any suggestions? Teilhard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipnat and ping problem.
Maślanka Wojciech píše v pá 23. 12. 2005 v 23:07 +0100: This is my network: Internet---[rl0, 192.168.0.50_10.0.0.1 ,rl1]--[10.0.0.2] On 10.0.0.2 machine I cant ping any host in internet. I can ping only 10.0.0.1 and 192.168.0.50. :( Whats wrong?? [/usr/src]#uname -a FreeBSD freebsd.mila10.6 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE [/usr/src]#ipfstat -io pass out quick all pass in quick all [/usr/src]#ipnat -l List of active MAP/Redirect filters: map rl0 10.0.0.0/24 - 192.168.0.50/32 proxy port ftp ftp/tcp map rl0 10.0.0.0/24 - 192.168.0.50/32 portmap tcp/udp auto map rl0 10.0.0.0/24 - 192.168.0.50/32 You need also map rl0 10.0.0.0/24 - 192.168.0.50/32 icmpidmap icmp 64000:65535 In the documentation of ipnat(5) there's written that for this to reliably work you have to recompile the world with limited PID_MAX but it works without it. List of active sessions: MAP 10.0.0.2 3610 - - 192.168.0.508666 [66.249.85.83 80] MAP 10.0.0.2 3609 - - 192.168.0.508665 [66.249.85.83 80] MAP 10.0.0.2 3608 - - 192.168.0.508664 [66.249.85.19 80] MAP 10.0.0.2 3607 - - 192.168.0.508663 [194.204.152.34 53] MAP 10.0.0.2 3606 - - 192.168.0.508662 [66.249.85.83 80] Michal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what am i doing wrong?!
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 10:07:21PM -0700, Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Gary Kline wrote: Do I need to have the device for USB 2.0 perhaps?? Only in the unlikely event that it's a USB 2 scanner. But I thought you were kldloading the uscanner module, and here you have it built in the kernel. Don't do both--although the system shouldn't permit that. Yep; kldload gives me grief so I deleted the line from /etc/rc.conf. That is the only thing that is still commented. I'll try that later on today. As root, yes, I am able to have sane test, not as a user. The scanner I am testing is recognized--HP ScanJet 4100C. What do you mean by this, exactly? You see a message on the root console? I checked the sane website and found the 4100c supported. I should not have said recognized; it isn't. Either the scanner or the transformer or the USB cable it shot. But it was sold AS-IS and may well be broken. My friend got a *second* 4100C for $1.00 [no, not kidding]; it works on his Windows box. ((I'll gladly let him scan things if he is willing.)) Have him test the first scanner on his system. Underway; he came back and picked everything up and will test to see what's shot. Once I've got a scanner and xsane working on FBSD I'm going to have a shot of Yukon Jack and sit by the fireplace. gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
umass detected, but da is never created
I have this external harddisk kit, and when I plug it in, the system correctly recognizes it as a umass.. but afterwards, the da device is never created.. this is what I get from the console: umass0: vendor 0x05e3 USB TO IDE, rev 2.00/0.33, addr 2 umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT Also, the very same thing but the timeouts are happening if I connect an Apple iPod.. And for the record, I had this problem with both the generic and my custom kernel.. both with umass,da,ses,pass compiled in.. Any ideas as for how to solve this? Any guidelines and I'd gladly edit the files in question and submit a patch, when I get it working.. PS, Any other usb-drive I've tried has worked without problems.. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB mice
On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 10:15, Teilhard Knight wrote: Teilhard Knight wrote: It seems to me that the way FreeBSD is catching up with new hardware leaves you unsatisfied. One has to choose, upon boot, the option to use an USB keyboard by hand, and I have found no way to make a USB mouse to work. The OS broadly supports serial mice and hardly PS/2 mice, both almost out of the market nowadays. Are USB mice supported by FreeBSD? Teilhard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Currently all three systems which run FreeBSD have USB mice, two of them just plain Logitech optical mouses, the third is a Logitech MX 300, but every other mouse should work when you have enabled moused. Try plugin in the mouse when FreeBSD is up and running, it should detect it automatically It didn't work. Actually I have a little more than a USB mouse, I have a wireless mouse and wireless keyboard which are both controlled by a central unit which plugs into an USB port in the computer. The keyboard works well, with the option of booting with an USB keyboard, but I cannot make the mouse work. Any suggestions? Teilhard. I can confirm what Frank says. I have a number of machines running mainly Freebsd. USB and PS/2 mice work fine on both OS' but I did have problems with a wireless mouse on both. The problem lies with the mouse connection to the wireless hub. Under XP I had to press the connect button on both the hub and mouse after booting to get the mouse to connect to the hub and then re-boot to get XP to recognise the mouse was there. I gave up on the wireless mouse in the end it was to much trouble. Rob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
acpi: throttle state in 6.0
First of all - Merry Christmas :) I am new on the list (and dane) - so please bare with me. I noticed, when upgrading from 5.4 to 6.0 - that hw.acpi.cpu.throttle_statedon't appear in 6.0. I have a IBM ThinkPad T40 with a centrino CPU. Is there another way to throttle down the CPU in 6.0? Best regards Niklas Nielsen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB mice
On 12/24/05, Teilhard Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Teilhard Knight wrote: It seems to me that the way FreeBSD is catching up with new hardware leaves you unsatisfied. One has to choose, upon boot, the option to use an USB keyboard by hand, and I have found no way to make a USB mouse to work. The OS broadly supports serial mice and hardly PS/2 mice, both almost out of the market nowadays. Are USB mice supported by FreeBSD? Teilhard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Currently all three systems which run FreeBSD have USB mice, two of them just plain Logitech optical mouses, the third is a Logitech MX 300, but every other mouse should work when you have enabled moused. Try plugin in the mouse when FreeBSD is up and running, it should detect it automatically It didn't work. Actually I have a little more than a USB mouse, I have a wireless mouse and wireless keyboard which are both controlled by a central unit which plugs into an USB port in the computer. The keyboard works well, with the option of booting with an USB keyboard, but I cannot make the mouse work. Any suggestions? Teilhard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] load the ums module by typing these command. you need to be root though. # kldload ums # moused -p /dev/ums0 -t auto then see if the mouse daemon is running using top or ps. --- if this does not work you may have to rebuild yoru kernel with the following options device ohci device ums -- Thanks. Upon issuing the command: # kldload ums, I get: 'kldload: can't load ums: file exists'. But if I go to /dev, ums is not present. Are you sure kldload is the right command? Teilhard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best Scanner recs, please?
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Gary Kline wrote: Thanks; this model is on my list. Do you have USB 2.0 defined (uncommented) in your KERNEL config file (and thus built into your kernel)?? I'm trying to figure out howto create /dev/uscanner0. I have the ehci device defined, but since I don't any USB 2 ports it probably doesn't matter. I'm running with a GENERIC conf for 6.0-STABLE with usb built-in. As I see it the uscanner device will probe the generic usbdevice and recognize the scanner and create a devfs entry. This happens for me when I plug it in. Somewhere around the 5.3-RELEASE it was necessary to modify /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/uscanner.c to include the LiDE 30 scanner. Perhaps it is interesting to see whether the scanner appears in `usbdevs -v` if you don't get a /dev/uscanner0. Mine shows as: port 2 addr 3: full speed, power 500 mA, config 1, CanoScan(0x220e), Canon(0x04a9), rev 1.00 -- Martin P. Hansen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB mice
It seems to me that the way FreeBSD is catching up with new hardware leaves you unsatisfied. One has to choose, upon boot, the option to use an USB keyboard by hand, and I have found no way to make a USB mouse to work. The OS broadly supports serial mice and hardly PS/2 mice, both almost out of the market nowadays. Are USB mice supported by FreeBSD? Teilhard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Currently all three systems which run FreeBSD have USB mice, two of them just plain Logitech optical mouses, the third is a Logitech MX 300, but every other mouse should work when you have enabled moused. Try plugin in the mouse when FreeBSD is up and running, it should detect it automatically It didn't work. Actually I have a little more than a USB mouse, I have a wireless mouse and wireless keyboard which are both controlled by a central unit which plugs into an USB port in the computer. The keyboard works well, with the option of booting with an USB keyboard, but I cannot make the mouse work. Any suggestions? Teilhard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] load the ums module by typing these command. you need to be root though. # kldload ums # moused -p /dev/ums0 -t auto then see if the mouse daemon is running using top or ps. --- if this does not work you may have to rebuild yoru kernel with the following options device ohci device ums -- Thanks. Upon issuing the command: # kldload ums, I get: 'kldload: can't load ums: file exists'. But if I go to /dev, ums is not present. Are you sure kldload is the right command? Teilhard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] i am positive. The message basically means that the ums module is already. You can check this by issuing the command # kldstat Yes, I have found it. It is under /usr/src/sys/modules. Shouldn't it be under /dev? The second command you ask me to perform gives an error: 'no such device ums0'. What should I do now? Teilhard ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections
http://www.edimax.com/html/english/products/PRI582.htm ...Performs Outbound load balancing by session, weight round robin or traffic... Note that they say by SESSION not by PACKET. It's marketingspeak. They are simply using the term load balancing for a device that doesen't actually load balance. Apparently they figure that if they say session load balancing even though there is no such accepted definition, that then they are somehow not lying. It's akin to someone saying that FreeBSD is a kind of Linux in a sentence that uses Linux to indicate open source operating systems Apparently you never heard the old saying A grain of truth is buried in all great lies Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Winelfred G. Pasamba Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:30 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections I wonder if these routers are using freebsd http://www.edimax.com/html/english/products/list-router.htm 2 WAN, 4 WAN, etc... and i also wonder what happens if one WAN goes down? or if the WANs are of different speeds? On 12/23/05, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 3:09 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections Which is not redundant. Considering the OP asked for specifics on how to do this and your response as been a bunch of theoretical gobbdleygook that is flat out wrong network theory, you haven't done anything to help the poor bastard. Hi, This is a pretty firey debate. I have a question along the lines of this thread. I currently have a 1.5Mbit ADSL tail at the school that I work for. This tail connects to the Education Office which hosts a variety of websites, we then get internet access through the education office. We currently also have 230 PCs, and the connection is slowing down significantly. What I planned on doing was purchasing a 20Mbit ADSL 2+ connection and setting up a FreeBSD router which forwards all internet traffic through the ADSL2+ connection, and the Education Office traffic would be forwarded through the existing connection. Is this feasible? The easiest way would be to purchase a DSL modem/router for use with the ADSL2 connection (or a ADSL2 modem coupled to a etherent-to-ethernet DSL router) Set this up as a network address translator, plug it into your school network. (you can use FreeBSD for this if you want) You will need to do a bit of exploring to find out the subnets that the ED office is using. For example, suppose ED office has assigned IP subnet 10.0.10.0/24 to your school. Their existing DSL tail has an IP number of 10.0.10.1 on it. You have your PC's seup to use IP addresses 10.0.10.10 - 10.0.10.240 with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 and a gateway of 10.0.10.1 You do some queries with nslookup to find out all the IP adresses of the Ed servers, and you find they are on subnets 10.0.12.x, 10.0.15.x, 192.168.4.x, etc. So, first thing you do is you setup your BSD system/DSL router/DSl modem as a translator, and set it's internal interface IP address to 10.0.10.2 Then you add in a bunch of static routes into it for the ED subnets you discovered, pointing those subnets to 10.0.10.1 Last you set your PC's to use 10.0.10.2 as their default gateway. When the PC's send traffic to the Internet the router sends that out the ADSL2 line When the PC's send traffic to ED, the router issues an ICMP redirect that installs an ICMP route in the PC's that points to 10.0.10.1 for that host. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Seek ye first the kingdom of God and all these things shall be added unto you. Winelfred G. Pasamba Adventist University of the Philippines Computer Science Department, AUP Online Information System ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.5/212 - Release Date: 12/23/2005 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: acpi: throttle state in 6.0
On Saturday 24 December 2005 20:01, Niklas Nielsen wrote: First of all - Merry Christmas :) I am new on the list (and dane) - so please bare with me. I noticed, when upgrading from 5.4 to 6.0 - that hw.acpi.cpu.throttle_statedon't appear in 6.0. I have a IBM ThinkPad T40 with a centrino CPU. Is there another way to throttle down the CPU in 6.0? This can be done dynamically by powerd(8) or manually with the dev.cpu.0.freq sysctl. Regarding the latter method, the dev.cpu.0.freq_levels sysctl displays the available frequencies detected for the processor. -- Eric pgphUZclesgl5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: USB mice
On 12/24/05, Teilhard Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me that the way FreeBSD is catching up with new hardware leaves you unsatisfied. One has to choose, upon boot, the option to use an USB keyboard by hand, and I have found no way to make a USB mouse to work. The OS broadly supports serial mice and hardly PS/2 mice, both almost out of the market nowadays. Are USB mice supported by FreeBSD? Teilhard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Currently all three systems which run FreeBSD have USB mice, two of them just plain Logitech optical mouses, the third is a Logitech MX 300, but every other mouse should work when you have enabled moused. Try plugin in the mouse when FreeBSD is up and running, it should detect it automatically It didn't work. Actually I have a little more than a USB mouse, I have a wireless mouse and wireless keyboard which are both controlled by a central unit which plugs into an USB port in the computer. The keyboard works well, with the option of booting with an USB keyboard, but I cannot make the mouse work. Any suggestions? Teilhard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list load the ums module by typing these command. you need to be root though. # kldload ums # moused -p /dev/ums0 -t auto then see if the mouse daemon is running using top or ps. --- if this does not work you may have to rebuild yoru kernel with the following options device ohci device ums -- Thanks. Upon issuing the command: # kldload ums, I get: 'kldload: can't load ums: file exists'. But if I go to /dev, ums is not present. Are you sure kldload is the right command? Teilhard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] i am positive. The message basically means that the ums module is already. You can check this by issuing the command # kldstat Yes, I have found it. It is under /usr/src/sys/modules. Shouldn't it be under /dev? The second command you ask me to perform gives an error: 'no such device ums0'. What should I do now? Teilhard ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From what you said earlier, i can deduce that the ums module is *already* loaded. It seems that FreeBSD cannot de tect your mouse at bootup. I don't really know what to do next. Could you tell me what you get when you issue: # cat /var/run/dmesg.boot | grep ums uname -a will tell me what version of FreeBSD you are using and # uname -a This can tell us what is detected at boot time. I'm having problems now. ums seems to have disappeared, at least when I go to /usr/src/sys/modules, I cannot find it. However when I run: # kldload ums I get the same as before: file exists. Konqueror cannot find ums either. It found it when I wrote to you, but not anymore. I have been fiddling with Konqueror manually in absence of a mouse and I highlighted the module path to be able to read it complete and then I hit enter to leave it as it was. Do you think I might made it hidden? The first command you ask me to perform gives nothing under these circumstances. uname -a, gives 'FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE', and gives the time and says I am using the GENERIC kernel, that's all. Teilhard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections
Ted, you have to think outside the box. Life is more than one connection. While you can't increase the throughput of a single connection, you can increase the throughput of your network, which is usually the point. Throughput in this context is capacity. Throughput is not only what you can get on a download; its the sum total of all of your activites. You can upload at 2Mb/s on one connection if you balance your outbound traffic, but not download, because while you can control where outgoing packets are sent, you can't control over which pipe incoming traffic arrives. Believe me, ted. It works. Its not theory. Its being done. For example a hosting ISP saturates its pipes outgoing and has very little traffic incoming. They can load balance in the outgoing only direction and have all of their incoming traffic on a single pipe and double the capacity of their network. Since they never exceed the incoming bandwidth of a single pipe there is no need to balance it. DT Ted and Daniel, I am still following this thread and am getting all confused here. Back to my original question: 2 ADSL uplinks - 2 different ISPs can they be merged? (Load balanced, load shared, whatever it is) OpenBSD's PF has something that looks promising: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/pools.html#outgoing Is this what I am looking for? Kind regards, Yance Kowara __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: ipnat and ping problem.
Im affraid that this solution dont work. :( Any other idea?? Regards! -- Forwarded message -- From: Michal Mertl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005-12-24 11:20 Subject: Re: ipnat and ping problem. To: Maślanka Wojciech [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Freebsd-questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Maślanka Wojciech píše v pá 23. 12. 2005 v 23:07 +0100: This is my network: Internet---[rl0, 192.168.0.50_10.0.0.1 ,rl1]--[10.0.0.2] On 10.0.0.2 machine I cant ping any host in internet. I can ping only 10.0.0.1 and 192.168.0.50. :( Whats wrong?? [/usr/src]#uname -a FreeBSD freebsd.mila10.6 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE [/usr/src]#ipfstat -io pass out quick all pass in quick all [/usr/src]#ipnat -l List of active MAP/Redirect filters: map rl0 10.0.0.0/24 - 192.168.0.50/32 proxy port ftp ftp/tcp map rl0 10.0.0.0/24 - 192.168.0.50/32 portmap tcp/udp auto map rl0 10.0.0.0/24 - 192.168.0.50/32 You need also map rl0 10.0.0.0/24 - 192.168.0.50/32 icmpidmap icmp 64000:65535 In the documentation of ipnat(5) there's written that for this to reliably work you have to recompile the world with limited PID_MAX but it works without it. List of active sessions: MAP 10.0.0.2 3610 - - 192.168.0.508666 [66.249.85.83 80] MAP 10.0.0.2 3609 - - 192.168.0.508665 [66.249.85.83 80] MAP 10.0.0.2 3608 - - 192.168.0.508664 [66.249.85.19 80] MAP 10.0.0.2 3607 - - 192.168.0.508663 [194.204.152.34 53] MAP 10.0.0.2 3606 - - 192.168.0.508662 [66.249.85.83 80] Michal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HP Scanner:: zilch
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005, Gary Kline wrote: Hm, this is strange. I have two hp files in sane.d, both sseem oriented toward Linux. There is an entry for the 4100c in hp.conf, but it wants to create /dev/scanner. That line tells sane which device to use. In FreeBSD, that's /dev/uscanner0. How do I tell sane to use hp.conf (or my new hp4100.conf)? AFAIK, sane just looks through all the conf files for something that matches the scanner devices found. sane-find-scanner would be where it does that. My rational against hp.conf is the ^/dev/scanner line as well as the first SCSI line. What does scsi HP do? I don't use SCSI in this FBSD server. Just comment that line out. AFAIK, three of my USB modules are builtins. Would you please grep usb your KERNEL file? gotta be something like this why uscanner0 isn't there. I have: uhci ohci ehci usb ugen uhid ukbd ulpt umass ums uscanner -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB mice
On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 03:36:28AM -0600, Teilhard Knight wrote: It seems to me that the way FreeBSD is catching up with new hardware leaves you unsatisfied. One has to choose, upon boot, the option to use an USB keyboard by hand, and I have found no way to make a USB mouse to work. The OS broadly supports serial mice and hardly PS/2 mice, both almost out of the market nowadays. Are USB mice supported by FreeBSD? I have a USB keyboard and I don't have to choose the ``USB Keyboard'' option at start up. Also, I have a USB Mouse hooked up via a hub in my keyboard. Works fine. Maybe you should consult the Handbook, or maybe even Google for your answers. - Russell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Two simple questions
What is the command to see the hidden files and folders? And how to unhide them? Teilhard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with Windows XP. I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD really is not targeted at people who want to use graphical user interfaces. The linux developers really have been trying to make a valuable replacement for Windows, as they somehow have experienced the same issues with Windows (And Microsoft products in general) that you have. One Linux distribution in particular that I think you might like, is Ubuntu. You can download it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/, or order a CD (Free shipping, free CD, you pay nothing). On 12/24/05, Andy Sjostrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To whom this may concern, H-E-L-P! LOL! I've been online since 1992( the windows 3.1 days for me.) I'm 48 yrs.old. and also a windows XP user. Because of recent issue I have had with Mr. William Gates and his product. about every 6 months I have had to overhaul my windows XP. during the last up grade I was told that my XP product code was invaild, then when is made the repair up grades something in my registory changed, and when that auto updater downloaded the new security patches it somehow downloaded 2969 trojans as well. I have decided to start the search for a new OS. In my case the new OS must be completely 100 percent user friendly. Please bare in mind that 100 percent means NO CODE writting. I'm not a programer...LOL! I run a very small one man company at, http://www.geocities.com/andy_sjostrom/index.html From time to time I also like to rip and burn a CD as well, Publish articles to my yahoo 360 blog. edit a few images from time to to time. surf the net, copy and paste, chat with friends in my favorite yahoo chat room. fold protiens for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] project at stanford U. (I'm on team #40154.) I also have a logitech Clicksmart420 that the new OS must be willing to accept. I've been doing some reading and every thing I have been able to find for OS's boils down to three basic choices. BSD Unix Linux A windows Hybird like ReactOS. There is one other very important thing Because I'm on a fixed income and things with me are very tight money wise the new OS must be free. Is there any thing you can do to help me. Such as point me in the right direction. . DA Consultants George A. Sjostrom II Helping those who can help them selves http://www.geocities.com/andy_sjostrom/index.html __ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: umass detected, but da is never created
On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 11:48:10AM +0100, Philip Lykke Carlsen wrote: I have this external harddisk kit, and when I plug it in, the system correctly recognizes it as a umass.. but afterwards, the da device is never created.. this is what I get from the console: umass0: vendor 0x05e3 USB TO IDE, rev 2.00/0.33, addr 2 umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT Also, the very same thing but the timeouts are happening if I connect an Apple iPod.. And for the record, I had this problem with both the generic and my custom kernel.. both with umass,da,ses,pass compiled in.. Any ideas as for how to solve this? Any guidelines and I'd gladly edit the files in question and submit a patch, when I get it working.. PS, Any other usb-drive I've tried has worked without problems.. At first I guessed it would have been a faulty device, however after a quick Google it appears `common'. http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-664.html Maybe it's an unsupported device. - Russell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two simple questions
On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 08:51:13AM -0600, Teilhard Knight wrote: What is the command to see the hidden files and folders? And how to unhide them? If you're referring to dot files, then the following will show them: ls -a If that is too tedious, then an alias in your shell's RC file can sort that out (e.g. for /bin/sh: alias ls='ls -a'). - Russell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two simple questions
On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:51, Teilhard Knight wrote: What is the command to see the hidden files and folders? And how to unhide them? Teilhard. 1) ls -A(see man ls) 2) if you use the standard csh shell try ll (see .cshrc) -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two simple questions
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005, Teilhard Knight wrote: What is the command to see the hidden files and folders? And how to unhide them? Assuming you use ls(1) to display your files the command would be ``ls -a'' as explained in the the manual page. Depending on your shell you can create an alias for the ls command which includes the -a option every time. For sh you can edit $HOME/.profile to include a line as alias ls=ls -a For csh you can edit $HOME/.cshrc to include a line as alias ls ls -l -- Martin P. Hansen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with Windows XP. I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD really is not targeted at people who want to use graphical user interfaces. In a few key areas FreeBSD is a better desktop OS than Linux: Easier to keep the kernel/world and installed ports up to date for example without having to resort to the microsoft/Linux fixall method of removing and reinstalling everything every now and again. Your opinion is correct IMO that FreeBSD managers put most emphasis on FreeBSD as a server and little as a desktop. My guess is because donations(cash) and hardware support for developers come from people who want servers while people who want a desktop OS tend to donate squat The linux developers really have been trying to make a valuable replacement for Windows, as they somehow have experienced the same issues with Windows (And Microsoft products in general) that you have. One Linux distribution in particular that I think you might like, is Ubuntu. You can download it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/, or order a CD (Free shipping, free CD, you pay nothing). Advertising Linux in a FreeBSD mailing list? Sounds like you may have more of axe to grind against the FreeBSD management folk than a desire to offer sound advice -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB mice
- Original Message - From: Russell J. Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 8:43 AM Subject: Re: USB mice On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 03:36:28AM -0600, Teilhard Knight wrote: It seems to me that the way FreeBSD is catching up with new hardware leaves you unsatisfied. One has to choose, upon boot, the option to use an USB keyboard by hand, and I have found no way to make a USB mouse to work. The OS broadly supports serial mice and hardly PS/2 mice, both almost out of the market nowadays. Are USB mice supported by FreeBSD? I have a USB keyboard and I don't have to choose the ``USB Keyboard'' option at start up. Also, I have a USB Mouse hooked up via a hub in my keyboard. Works fine. Are they, your keyboard and your mouse, wireless? Teilhard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: umass detected, but da is never created
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 22:52:21 +0800 Russell J. Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 11:48:10AM +0100, Philip Lykke Carlsen wrote: I have this external harddisk kit, and when I plug it in, the system correctly recognizes it as a umass.. but afterwards, the da device is never created.. this is what I get from the console: umass0: vendor 0x05e3 USB TO IDE, rev 2.00/0.33, addr 2 umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT Also, the very same thing but the timeouts are happening if I connect an Apple iPod.. And for the record, I had this problem with both the generic and my custom kernel.. both with umass,da,ses,pass compiled in.. Any ideas as for how to solve this? Any guidelines and I'd gladly edit the files in question and submit a patch, when I get it working.. PS, Any other usb-drive I've tried has worked without problems.. I had this problem with an iPod also. When I switch to using firewire for the iPod it then worked fine. I've read that there is some problem with Apples usb2 code. -- Rod http://www.opensourcebeef.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
--- Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with Windows XP. I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD really is not targeted at people who want to use graphical user interfaces. In a few key areas FreeBSD is a better desktop OS than Linux: Easier to keep the kernel/world and installed ports up to date for example without having to resort to the microsoft/Linux fixall method of removing and reinstalling everything every now and again. Your opinion is correct IMO that FreeBSD managers put most emphasis on FreeBSD as a server and little as a desktop. My guess is because donations(cash) and hardware support for developers come from people who want servers while people who want a desktop OS tend to donate squat The linux developers really have been trying to make a valuable replacement for Windows, as they somehow have experienced the same issues with Windows (And Microsoft products in general) that you have. One Linux distribution in particular that I think you might like, is Ubuntu. You can download it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/, or order a CD (Free shipping, free CD, you pay nothing). Advertising Linux in a FreeBSD mailing list? Sounds like you may have more of axe to grind against the FreeBSD management folk than a desire to offer sound advice -Mike Why not just tell the truth, which is that Windows XP is the best that you can do for the desktop, and that there is no perfect solution that works perfectly in every scenario? FreeBSD and Linux *should* focus on server functions, because that is where MS is weak and that is where its needed. There will likely never be a solid reason to use BSD or linux as a desktop other than religion; while there are many compelling reasons to use BSD and/or linux servers. When you try to be everything to everyone and you don't have the resources of a MS, then you end up with mediocre results. Decide what you want to be, and be the best at it. That should be the mantra of any product development team, regardless of the genre. DT __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 07:19 -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with Windows XP. I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD really is not targeted at people who want to use graphical user interfaces. In a few key areas FreeBSD is a better desktop OS than Linux: Easier to keep the kernel/world and installed ports up to date for example without having to resort to the microsoft/Linux fixall method of removing and reinstalling everything every now and again. Your opinion is correct IMO that FreeBSD managers put most emphasis on FreeBSD as a server and little as a desktop. My guess is because donations(cash) and hardware support for developers come from people who want servers while people who want a desktop OS tend to donate squat The linux developers really have been trying to make a valuable replacement for Windows, as they somehow have experienced the same issues with Windows (And Microsoft products in general) that you have. One Linux distribution in particular that I think you might like, is Ubuntu. You can download it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/, or order a CD (Free shipping, free CD, you pay nothing). Advertising Linux in a FreeBSD mailing list? Sounds like you may have more of axe to grind against the FreeBSD management folk than a desire to offer sound advice -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have used FreeBSD as my desktop since 2.1.5, and have been very satisfied with it. Now that KDE has matured, it is an excellent choice for a desktop environment, and runs just as well on FreeBSD as Linux. (I am not a GNOME fan, personally). I have tried several different Linux distributions, and my current favourite is Suse 10.0, given a copy on a DVD to avoid shuffling CDs in and out of the drive. They have done a great job - but I still come back to FreeBSD for all serious work. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections
--- Yance Kowara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted, you have to think outside the box. Life is more than one connection. While you can't increase the throughput of a single connection, you can increase the throughput of your network, which is usually the point. Throughput in this context is capacity. Throughput is not only what you can get on a download; its the sum total of all of your activites. You can upload at 2Mb/s on one connection if you balance your outbound traffic, but not download, because while you can control where outgoing packets are sent, you can't control over which pipe incoming traffic arrives. Believe me, ted. It works. Its not theory. Its being done. For example a hosting ISP saturates its pipes outgoing and has very little traffic incoming. They can load balance in the outgoing only direction and have all of their incoming traffic on a single pipe and double the capacity of their network. Since they never exceed the incoming bandwidth of a single pipe there is no need to balance it. DT Ted and Daniel, I am still following this thread and am getting all confused here. Back to my original question: 2 ADSL uplinks - 2 different ISPs can they be merged? (Load balanced, load shared, whatever it is) OpenBSD's PF has something that looks promising: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/pools.html#outgoing Is this what I am looking for? Kind regards, Yance Kowara merged is not the correct word. You cannot change how your traffic comes in (ie from which ISP it arrives). You can use various techniques (source routing, static routing tables, load balancing) to increase your outgoing capacity. What you should be discussing is how you can use each of these techniques within a FreeBSd environment. Unfortunately we have to teach Ted how routing works in the meantime, which muddles the issue. DT __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with Windows XP. I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD really is not targeted at people who want to use graphical user interfaces. In a few key areas FreeBSD is a better desktop OS than Linux: Easier to keep the kernel/world and installed ports up to date for example without having to resort to the microsoft/Linux fixall method of removing and reinstalling everything every now and again. Your opinion is correct IMO that FreeBSD managers put most emphasis on FreeBSD as a server and little as a desktop. My guess is because donations(cash) and hardware support for developers come from people who want servers while people who want a desktop OS tend to donate squat The linux developers really have been trying to make a valuable replacement for Windows, as they somehow have experienced the same issues with Windows (And Microsoft products in general) that you have. One Linux distribution in particular that I think you might like, is Ubuntu. You can download it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/, or order a CD (Free shipping, free CD, you pay nothing). Advertising Linux in a FreeBSD mailing list? Sounds like you may have more of axe to grind against the FreeBSD management folk than a desire to offer sound advice -Mike I use FreeBSD as a desktop system, once it's setup it's a much nicer system to maintain than any Linux I've tried (haven't tried Gentoo yet). Setting it up is harder than some of the auto-config-everything Linux distros though. My suggestion is to read through the handbook to see if you are comfortible with what it is describing. If it seems okay, give FreeBSD a try, if not, try a Linux distro. Handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html HTH, Micah ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
On Saturday 24 December 2005 07:34, Danial Thom wrote: --- Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with Windows XP. I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD really is not targeted at people who want to use graphical user interfaces. In a few key areas FreeBSD is a better desktop OS than Linux: Easier to keep the kernel/world and installed ports up to date for example without having to resort to the microsoft/Linux fixall method of removing and reinstalling everything every now and again. Your opinion is correct IMO that FreeBSD managers put most emphasis on FreeBSD as a server and little as a desktop. My guess is because donations(cash) and hardware support for developers come from people who want servers while people who want a desktop OS tend to donate squat The linux developers really have been trying to make a valuable replacement for Windows, as they somehow have experienced the same issues with Windows (And Microsoft products in general) that you have. One Linux distribution in particular that I think you might like, is Ubuntu. You can download it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/, or order a CD (Free shipping, free CD, you pay nothing). Advertising Linux in a FreeBSD mailing list? Sounds like you may have more of axe to grind against the FreeBSD management folk than a desire to offer sound advice -Mike Why not just tell the truth, which is that Windows XP is the best that you can do for the desktop, and that there is no perfect solution that works perfectly in every scenario? What I suppose you really mean is why don't I just agree with you ;) FreeBSD and Linux *should* focus on server functions, because that is where MS is weak and that is where its needed. There will likely never be a solid reason to use BSD or linux as a desktop other than religion; while there are many compelling reasons to use BSD and/or linux servers. Your opinion. Mine is FreeBSD has the potential to be a better desktop than either ms or Linux. The big problem at the moment is with web browser plugins. Desktop users coming from ms land demand these and FreeBSD simply comes up short in supporting them. I have faith that will change eventually. When you try to be everything to everyone and you don't have the resources of a MS, then you end up with mediocre results. This is the key, how to get the FreeBSD teams resources for focusing developent towards desktop users? I believe if given proper resources they will do it. -Mike Decide what you want to be, and be the best at it. That should be the mantra of any product development team, regardless of the genre. DT __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections
--- Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Yance Kowara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted, you have to think outside the box. Life is more than one connection. While you can't increase the throughput of a single connection, you can increase the throughput of your network, which is usually the point. Throughput in this context is capacity. Throughput is not only what you can get on a download; its the sum total of all of your activites. You can upload at 2Mb/s on one connection if you balance your outbound traffic, but not download, because while you can control where outgoing packets are sent, you can't control over which pipe incoming traffic arrives. Believe me, ted. It works. Its not theory. Its being done. For example a hosting ISP saturates its pipes outgoing and has very little traffic incoming. They can load balance in the outgoing only direction and have all of their incoming traffic on a single pipe and double the capacity of their network. Since they never exceed the incoming bandwidth of a single pipe there is no need to balance it. DT Ted and Daniel, I am still following this thread and am getting all confused here. Back to my original question: 2 ADSL uplinks - 2 different ISPs can they be merged? (Load balanced, load shared, whatever it is) OpenBSD's PF has something that looks promising: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/pools.html#outgoing Is this what I am looking for? Kind regards, Yance Kowara merged is not the correct word. You cannot change how your traffic comes in (ie from which ISP it arrives). You can use various techniques (source routing, static routing tables, load balancing) to increase your outgoing capacity. What you should be discussing is how you can use each of these techniques within a FreeBSd environment. Unfortunately we have to teach Ted how routing works in the meantime, which muddles the issue. DT As an example, I had a customer that had a T1 and a T3 connection to different ISPs (they kept the T1 because of the IPs they didn't want to relinquish, and as a backup), and BGP worked on hops at the time so clearly that doesnt work when you have unbalanced pipes, because arguable the T3 is always the better route). So they source routed all of their dial-up traffic via the T1 and their more profitable hosting traffic to the T3. You're not going to be able to advertise 2Mb/s downloads if thats what you're trying to do. DT __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections
--- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.edimax.com/html/english/products/PRI582.htm ...Performs Outbound load balancing by session, weight round robin or traffic... Note that they say by SESSION not by PACKET. It's marketingspeak. They are simply using the term load balancing for a device that doesen't actually load balance. Apparently they figure that if they say session load balancing even though there is no such accepted definition, that then they are somehow not lying. It's akin to someone saying that FreeBSD is a kind of Linux in a sentence that uses Linux to indicate open source operating systems Apparently you never heard the old saying A grain of truth is buried in all great lies I'm not sure what your primary language is, but round robin IS packet balancing. Suppose you have 2 pipes: Round Robin: 1 packet to pipe1 1 packet to pipe2 1 packet to pipe1 1 packet to pipe2 Weighted round Robin, weighted 2 to 1: 1 packet to pipe1 1 packet to pipe1 1 packet to pipe2 1 packet to pipe1 1 packet to pipe1 1 packet to pipe2 Per session balancing may be useful when you have paths that are not very equal. If you load balance to different ISPs packets could arrive out of order (in fact they are likely to). This is not really a problem for modern TCP stacks. Session balancing, if done properly, should guarantee that the ACKs for a download go out the same pipe as the data is arriving. Its not clear from the datasheet if thats the case, but thats the correct way to do it. Its seems like a quite comprehensive product to me, from the docs. Ted's analysis is backwards. load balancing is a vague term. Weighted Round Robin is a more specific term for how they have implemented the load balancing. Danial __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two simple questions
Teilhard Knight wrote: What is the command to see the hidden files and folders? And how to unhide them? Teilhard. You should specify if you mean at the command line or in knoqueror (which you mentioned in another post). From the command line use ls -a or la in the default csh install. In konqueror use view-show hidden files. You cannot unhide a hidden dot-file without renaming it. Renaming it will make it impossible for the programs that use the file to find it. HTH, Micah ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
On Saturday, December 24, 2005 10:34:12 AM
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Subject: Re: BSD Question's.
Wrote these words of wisdom:
When you try to be everything to everyone and you
don't have the resources of a MS, then you end up
with mediocre results. Decide what you want to
be, and be the best at it. That should be the
mantra of any product development team,
regardless of the genre.
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On 10/11/2005 5:29:42 PM, Gerard Replied:
I have to agree with that statement. I have witnessed all too many
products start out with a good idea, build a solid product, and then
waste time and resources on trying to be all things to all people. In
the end they end up with a mediocre product.
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Re: BSD Question's.
On Saturday 24 December 2005 08:02, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Mike, On 12/24/05, Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with Windows XP. I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD really is not targeted at people who want to use graphical user interfaces. In a few key areas FreeBSD is a better desktop OS than Linux: Easier to keep the kernel/world and installed ports up to date for example without having to resort to the microsoft/Linux fixall method of removing and reinstalling everything every now and again. Your opinion is correct IMO that FreeBSD managers put most emphasis on FreeBSD as a server and little as a desktop. My guess is because donations(cash) and hardware support for developers come from people who want servers while people who want a desktop OS tend to donate squat The linux developers really have been trying to make a valuable replacement for Windows, as they somehow have experienced the same issues with Windows (And Microsoft products in general) that you have. One Linux distribution in particular that I think you might like, is Ubuntu. You can download it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/, or order a CD (Free shipping, free CD, you pay nothing). Advertising Linux in a FreeBSD mailing list? Sounds like you may have more of axe to grind against the FreeBSD management folk than a desire to offer sound advice This is the same kind of response I got when I asked for screen alternatives. My grind is against Linux. Honestly, I hate linux. I dont have any real reasons for hating it, I just do, because Linux has a very loud-mouthed userbase that hates M$ and Winblows. I ordered 200 (Yes, 200!) Ubuntu CD's just for the priceless joy of sitting in my room and laughing once I opened the box with the 200 CD's that cost some people real money. Also, I am absolutely a FreeBSD fanboy. Imagine the priceless joy you could have had by donating the cost of those 200 cd's to the authors of your favorite OS. Not to mention the extra space in your room without 200 CD's laying about. -Mike So the advice I was giving actually _was_ the kind of advice that the OP asked for. Disregard the fact that this is a freebsd mailing list. He was asking for advice on a dekstop OS that would be cheap, and that is exactly what I gave him, based on the information that I've gathered through my interaction with people. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CAPI over TCP
Hello out there. I want a PC acting like a CAPI device attached to a local network via TCP. Therefor, I would like to have a CAPI over TCP driver. On WindowsXP there is such o facility, but is there a similar project on FreeBSD? At sourceforge.org I found a still-in-progress project (I forgot the name), but it seems far away from the quality and functionality of the Windows stuff. Merry Christmas and thanks in advance, Oliver ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 07:34 -0800, Danial Thom wrote: --- Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with Windows XP. I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD really is not targeted at people who want to use graphical user interfaces. In a few key areas FreeBSD is a better desktop OS than Linux: Easier to keep the kernel/world and installed ports up to date for example without having to resort to the microsoft/Linux fixall method of removing and reinstalling everything every now and again. Your opinion is correct IMO that FreeBSD managers put most emphasis on FreeBSD as a server and little as a desktop. My guess is because donations(cash) and hardware support for developers come from people who want servers while people who want a desktop OS tend to donate squat The linux developers really have been trying to make a valuable replacement for Windows, as they somehow have experienced the same issues with Windows (And Microsoft products in general) that you have. One Linux distribution in particular that I think you might like, is Ubuntu. You can download it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/, or order a CD (Free shipping, free CD, you pay nothing). Advertising Linux in a FreeBSD mailing list? Sounds like you may have more of axe to grind against the FreeBSD management folk than a desire to offer sound advice -Mike Why not just tell the truth, which is that Windows XP is the best that you can do for the desktop Well, that's your opinion. For me, FreeBSD is a much better desktop than Windows -- it runs solid and fast and enables me to be more productive in my work. Of course, what is good for me might not be so good for someone else, I guess it depends on your needs. Some Linux distros are much easier to setup than FreeBSD, so they might be a more recommendable desktop for someone with less technical knowledge. -- Miguel Saturnino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two simple questions
Teilhard Knight wrote: What is the command to see the hidden files and folders? And how to unhide them? Teilhard. Micah's response is correct, but just an additional comment. In FreeBSD UNIX, there are really no 'hidden' files. They are all just files with names in a specific style - in most cases that means they start with a dot (.). They are no different than other file names as far as UNIX is concerned. They are no 'hidden' to keep you from seeing them or doing things with them as in MS. But, because most of the time you do not want to waste display time or space looking at those file names when you list files, many utilities such as ls do not show then by default - they skip over them. In almost all cases, to get those utilities to show them in their listings, you just need to use a flag on the command - the -a flag in the case of ls. You should specify if you mean at the command line or in knoqueror (which you mentioned in another post). From the command line use ls -a or la in the default csh install. In konqueror use view-show hidden files. You cannot unhide a hidden dot-file without renaming it. Renaming it will make it impossible for the programs that use the file to find it. HTH, Micah ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: umass detected, but da is never created
rod person wrote: I had this problem with an iPod also. When I switch to using firewire for the iPod it then worked fine. I've read that there is some problem with Apples usb2 code. The Mac OS X code is certainly not the *BSD code, at least on the computer end. I have a camera (Premier DC-5085) which won't work under FreeBSD or Linux (gives Buffer I/O error on device) but works just fine as a umass device under Mac OS X 10.4.3. The camera is cheap, so I wouldn't be surprised if they cut corners on the USB interface or code. Worthy of further investigation ... - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two simple questions
On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:51, Teilhard Knight wrote: What is the command to see the hidden files and folders? And how to unhide them? Teilhard. 1) ls -A (see man ls) 2) if you use the standard csh shell try ll (see .cshrc) -Mike Thanks. Teilhard ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
--- Miguel Saturnino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 07:34 -0800, Danial Thom wrote: --- Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with Windows XP. I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD really is not targeted at people who want to use graphical user interfaces. In a few key areas FreeBSD is a better desktop OS than Linux: Easier to keep the kernel/world and installed ports up to date for example without having to resort to the microsoft/Linux fixall method of removing and reinstalling everything every now and again. Your opinion is correct IMO that FreeBSD managers put most emphasis on FreeBSD as a server and little as a desktop. My guess is because donations(cash) and hardware support for developers come from people who want servers while people who want a desktop OS tend to donate squat The linux developers really have been trying to make a valuable replacement for Windows, as they somehow have experienced the same issues with Windows (And Microsoft products in general) that you have. One Linux distribution in particular that I think you might like, is Ubuntu. You can download it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/, or order a CD (Free shipping, free CD, you pay nothing). Advertising Linux in a FreeBSD mailing list? Sounds like you may have more of axe to grind against the FreeBSD management folk than a desire to offer sound advice -Mike Why not just tell the truth, which is that Windows XP is the best that you can do for the desktop Well, that's your opinion. For me, FreeBSD is a much better desktop than Windows -- it runs solid and fast and enables me to be more productive in my work. Of course, what is good for me might not be so good for someone else, I guess it depends on your needs. more productive in what way? Without considering all of the programs I use that only run in windows (such as my investment analysis tools, camera interface and photo editing programs), outline the productivity advantages of FreeBSD in terms of: 1) Time from unwrapping the computer to having a functional and usable system. 2) General productivity advantages in a typical day. ie: what can you do with FreeBSD that you can't do in WinXP, and what is faster or more productive in FreeBSD And please don't take this as an adversarial post: I haven't looked at the desktop in a while so I'd really like to know the answers, if in fact your opinion is objective. DT __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
Daniel A. wrote: One Linux distribution in particular that I think you might like, is Ubuntu. You can download it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/, or order a CD (Free shipping, free CD, you pay nothing). Seconded. I put Ubuntu on my laptop after FreeBSD 5 wouldn't behave. It's Debian-based, so it's technically sensible, and Ubuntu work VERY hard to have stuff Just Work. I routinely recommend it to people who want to try something else because they're bloody sick of Windows sucking. I also recommend anyone working on the FreeBSD ports/packages system to try Ubuntu and the Synaptic Package Manager (a nice graphical frontend to apt). It's RIDICULOUSLY easy to use and there's little excuse for doing any less well. - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two simple questions
On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 08:51:13AM -0600, Teilhard Knight wrote: What is the command to see the hidden files and folders? And how to unhide them? If you're referring to dot files, then the following will show them: ls -a If that is too tedious, then an alias in your shell's RC file can sort that out (e.g. for /bin/sh: alias ls='ls -a'). - Russell Thank you. I find nothing tedious in typing a '-a'. Teilhard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two simple questions
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005, Teilhard Knight wrote: What is the command to see the hidden files and folders? And how to unhide them? Assuming you use ls(1) to display your files the command would be ``ls -a'' as explained in the the manual page. Depending on your shell you can create an alias for the ls command which includes the -a option every time. For sh you can edit $HOME/.profile to include a line as alias ls=ls -a For csh you can edit $HOME/.cshrc to include a line as alias ls ls -l -- Martin P. Hansen Thank you for such a detailed info. Teilhard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two simple questions
Teilhard Knight wrote: What is the command to see the hidden files and folders? And how to unhide them? Teilhard. You should specify if you mean at the command line or in knoqueror (which you mentioned in another post). From the command line use ls -a or la in the default csh install. In konqueror use view-show hidden files. You cannot unhide a hidden dot-file without renaming it. Renaming it will make it impossible for the programs that use the file to find it. HTH, Micah Thank you. I need to think differently than windoze, but I have to learn how. Sort of apologizing. Teilhard ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two simple questions
Teilhard Knight wrote: What is the command to see the hidden files and folders? And how to unhide them? Teilhard. Micah's response is correct, but just an additional comment. In FreeBSD UNIX, there are really no 'hidden' files. They are all just files with names in a specific style - in most cases that means they start with a dot (.). They are no different than other file names as far as UNIX is concerned. They are no 'hidden' to keep you from seeing them or doing things with them as in MS. But, because most of the time you do not want to waste display time or space looking at those file names when you list files, many utilities such as ls do not show then by default - they skip over them. In almost all cases, to get those utilities to show them in their listings, you just need to use a flag on the command - the -a flag in the case of ls. Thanks. One has to learn how to detatch oneself from Windows, huh? Teilhard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two simple questions
On Saturday 24 December 2005 08:37, Teilhard Knight wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:51, Teilhard Knight wrote: What is the command to see the hidden files and folders? And how to unhide them? Teilhard. 1) ls -A (see man ls) 2) if you use the standard csh shell try ll (see .cshrc) -Mike Thanks. Teilhard welcome -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
--- Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 07:34, Danial Thom wrote: --- Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with Windows XP. I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD really is not targeted at people who want to use graphical user interfaces. In a few key areas FreeBSD is a better desktop OS than Linux: Easier to keep the kernel/world and installed ports up to date for example without having to resort to the microsoft/Linux fixall method of removing and reinstalling everything every now and again. Your opinion is correct IMO that FreeBSD managers put most emphasis on FreeBSD as a server and little as a desktop. My guess is because donations(cash) and hardware support for developers come from people who want servers while people who want a desktop OS tend to donate squat The linux developers really have been trying to make a valuable replacement for Windows, as they somehow have experienced the same issues with Windows (And Microsoft products in general) that you have. One Linux distribution in particular that I think you might like, is Ubuntu. You can download it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/, or order a CD (Free shipping, free CD, you pay nothing). Advertising Linux in a FreeBSD mailing list? Sounds like you may have more of axe to grind against the FreeBSD management folk than a desire to offer sound advice -Mike Why not just tell the truth, which is that Windows XP is the best that you can do for the desktop, and that there is no perfect solution that works perfectly in every scenario? What I suppose you really mean is why don't I just agree with you ;) FreeBSD and Linux *should* focus on server functions, because that is where MS is weak and that is where its needed. There will likely never be a solid reason to use BSD or linux as a desktop other than religion; while there are many compelling reasons to use BSD and/or linux servers. Your opinion. Mine is FreeBSD has the potential to be a better desktop than either ms or Linux. The big problem at the moment is with web browser plugins. Desktop users coming from ms land demand these and FreeBSD simply comes up short in supporting them. I have faith that will change eventually. You're pretty much admitting here that FreeBSD desktop is not as functional as windows. Which was exactly the point I was making. FreeBSD has the potential to be a very good MP OS. Currently it is not, so I don't use it. I need to run a business. Potential only means that I monitor its progress; I use what is the best available at the time for any given function. The reality is that there are a lot more things available for WinXP than FreeBSD. This to me defines productivity. I don't know what I'll need next month. If something new becomes available that I want to use, its much more likely to run in WinXP than FreeBSD. So even if they were equal at the moment, I have to choose windows. Motherboards are tested on Windows, not FreeBSD. With FreeBSD I never know when I buy a new MB if everything will work properly. With WinXP I know it will. Being able to chose a system based on what hardware I need, rather than what hardware will work with FreeBSD, is a big productivity advantage IMO. DT __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IPv6: routing on the local LAN
Gidday folks, I have an IPv6 routing problem within my LAN behind the gateway. I have an IPv6 tunnel supplied by Hurricane Electric. The tunnel is setup and working. From my gateway I can access various IPv6 websites (e.g http://www.kame.net). I have enabled rtadvd(8) on my gateway. For the netstat, ifconfig, etc, see [1]. From a computer inside my gateway, I cannot ping anything, not even the gateway. I suspect it's because the routing tables are not being set up on the gateway. I expected the system to do that automatically. I also expected fxp0 to get an IPv6 address out of this. Did I guess wrong? I suspect that if I can get fxp0 on the gateway, all will be well. If not, I think Ineed to set up static routes. The workstation inside the LAN has the config shown in [2]. Checking via tcpdump on the gateway, I can see pings from the client hitting the internal NIC (fxp1) and going out the IPv6 tunnel (gif0). In case I've missed something about setting up the tunnel, the details are [3]. Suggestions, comments, thanks. [1] Gateway - http://www.langille.org/tmp/ipv6-config-gateway.txt [2] Client - http://www.langille.org/tmp/ipv6-config-client.txt [3] Tunnel - http://www.langille.org/tmp/ipv6-config-tunnel.txt -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - The Technical BSD Conference - http://www.bsdcan.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BSD Question's.
Hi I would like to thank all of you for your help. From what you have told me Free BSD would not be the way for me to go. I'm of to have a look at the info on Ubuntu it is nice to see that I'm not alone in my opinions of ol'Willie Gates. Although I do have plans and a fantasy of the torture I would like to put him through. The I.C.P. Amazing Maze keeps coming to mind..LOL! Guess I should seek out a shrink for that...LOL! Again thank you all for your advice and help, and may you and your families have a safe and happy holiday season. . DA Consultants George A. Sjostrom II Helping those who can help them selves http://www.geocities.com/andy_sjostrom/index.html __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
Hi Danial: On Saturday 24 December 2005 10:44, Danial Thom wrote: --- Miguel Saturnino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 07:34 -0800, Danial Thom wrote: --- Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with Windows XP. I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD really is not targeted at people who want to use graphical user interfaces. In a few key areas FreeBSD is a better desktop OS than Linux: Easier to keep the kernel/world and installed ports up to date for example without having to resort to the microsoft/Linux fixall method of removing and reinstalling everything every now and again. Your opinion is correct IMO that FreeBSD managers put most emphasis on FreeBSD as a server and little as a desktop. My guess is because donations(cash) and hardware support for developers come from people who want servers while people who want a desktop OS tend to donate squat The linux developers really have been trying to make a valuable replacement for Windows, as they somehow have experienced the same issues with Windows (And Microsoft products in general) that you have. One Linux distribution in particular that I think you might like, is Ubuntu. You can download it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/, or order a CD (Free shipping, free CD, you pay nothing). Advertising Linux in a FreeBSD mailing list? Sounds like you may have more of axe to grind against the FreeBSD management folk than a desire to offer sound advice -Mike Why not just tell the truth, which is that Windows XP is the best that you can do for the desktop Well, that's your opinion. For me, FreeBSD is a much better desktop than Windows -- it runs solid and fast and enables me to be more productive in my work. Of course, what is good for me might not be so good for someone else, I guess it depends on your needs. more productive in what way? Without considering all of the programs I use that only run in windows (such as my investment analysis tools, camera interface and photo editing programs), outline the productivity advantages of FreeBSD in terms of: 1) Time from unwrapping the computer to having a functional and usable system. For me, FreeBSD is about twice as fast/easy to install/configure, and infinitely cheaper. 2) General productivity advantages in a typical day. ie: what can you do with FreeBSD that you can't do in WinXP, and what is faster or more productive in FreeBSD Depends on what you use it for. I'm a C++ developer, and have a need to examine/search/manipulate text files quite often, Windows, out of the box, is inappropriate for this type of work. I'd have to install all sorts of applications, e.g., cygwin, et al, to get the applications/capabilities that come out of the box on a typical *nix system, FreeBSD, Linux, etc... If, on the other hand, you are wedded to an application that only runs on windows, then the question is moot. Unfortunately, there is one windows program I'm forced to use, so I have a cheap laptop that sits on my desk for that purpose. Though I never use it directly, except to reboot it when it hangs, say once a week, I access it via rdesktop in a window from one of my FreeBSD systems, typically my new HP laptop. But no one can convince you of which OS you should use. If you want to try one, try it. If not, don't. I couldn't care less which OS other people use, just as I couldn't care less which car you drive. happy holidays--I'm off to finish my shopping... don And please don't take this as an adversarial post: I haven't looked at the desktop in a while so I'd really like to know the answers, if in fact your opinion is objective. DT __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Don Hinton don.hinton at vanderbilt.edu615.480.5667 ISIS, Vanderbilt University pgpCN2StR619C.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: BSD Question's.
It is not clear to me who said this; whoever did gets my vote for cheapest trick of the year. This is the same kind of response I got when I asked for screen alternatives. My grind is against Linux. Honestly, I hate linux. I dont have any real reasons for hating it, I just do, because Linux has a very loud-mouthed userbase that hates M$ and Winblows. I ordered 200 (Yes, 200!) Ubuntu CD's just for the priceless joy of sitting in my room and laughing once I opened the box with the 200 CD's that cost some people real money. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPv6: routing on the local LAN
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:37:56 -0500 Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gidday folks, I have an IPv6 routing problem within my LAN behind the gateway. I have an IPv6 tunnel supplied by Hurricane Electric. The tunnel is setup and working. From my gateway I can access various IPv6 websites (e.g http://www.kame.net). I have enabled rtadvd(8) on my gateway. For the netstat, ifconfig, etc, see [1]. From a computer inside my gateway, I cannot ping anything, not even the gateway. I suspect it's because the routing tables are not being set up on the gateway. I expected the system to do that automatically. I also expected fxp0 to get an IPv6 address out of this. Did I guess wrong? I suspect that if I can get fxp0 on the gateway, all will be well. If not, I think Ineed to set up static routes. Add a single 2001:470:1F00:1979::/64 address each for both fxp0/1. You don't even need rtadv.conf :) rc.conf:- ipv6_ifconfig_fxp0=2001:470:1F00:1979::1/64 ipv6_ifconfig_fxp1=2001:470:1F00:1979::2/64 The workstation inside the LAN has the config shown in [2]. Checking via tcpdump on the gateway, I can see pings from the client hitting the internal NIC (fxp1) and going out the IPv6 tunnel (gif0). In case I've missed something about setting up the tunnel, the details are [3]. Suggestions, comments, thanks. [1] Gateway - http://www.langille.org/tmp/ipv6-config-gateway.txt [2] Client - http://www.langille.org/tmp/ipv6-config-client.txt [3] Tunnel - http://www.langille.org/tmp/ipv6-config-tunnel.txt -- Ariff Abdullah MyBSD http://www.MyBSD.org.my (IPv6/IPv4) http://staff.MyBSD.org.my (IPv6/IPv4) http://tomoyo.MyBSD.org.my (IPv6/IPv4) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Forth include ?
This undoubtedly is of no importance whatsoever, natheless this inquiring mind would like to know. The FreeBSD boot loader is written in Forth, which I happen to be able to read (sort of, anyway). EXCEPT the word include occurs in a number of places. I grant it is fair to middling obvious what it does. At the same time, I have not been able to find a definition for include in any of the reference materials I have on Forth. It is defninetly NOT ANS (or ISO) Forth (which specifies the words INCLUDE-FILE and INCLUDED). So 1) Can anybody give a stack picture for include ? 2) What version/dialect of Forth does FreeBSD use and is there any place I can get documentation on it? thanks in advance, -LenZ- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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it possible to do via Sendmail, or can this only be accomplished via my
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that means anything.
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Start X hangs the computer
Hello, I was searching about my problem in a lot off forums but I don´t find a solution... . I Install FreeBSD 6.0 in my box (I have 2 boxes and FreeBSD was installed in both). The first one work fine with all the configuration that I make but the second (boxes are different) have problems because I can start startx, xdm and kdm and it show the screen for a while with the correct resolution but then the screen freeze and after some seconds the box restart... . I can´t find any reason for this behaviour because log files seems to show that all is working. I follow the same steeps with two boxes but only one can run X. The box who crashes is a P5GD1_PRO (Intel 915P chipset), my graphic card is a GeForce FX 6200 (PCI-Express). Anyone have any idea about the what is the problem? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's
One good alternative that no one has mentioned is PC-BSD. It is FreeBSD that makes it very easy to set up a KDE desktop and install software. It works very well indeed. Yes, it has issues with some of the plugins at the moment (like FreeBSD) and java still has to be compiled. But the installation is painless, and overall it is nicely done. It is well worth considering. www.pcbsd.org. Frank ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
--- Don Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Danial: On Saturday 24 December 2005 10:44, Danial Thom wrote: --- Miguel Saturnino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 07:34 -0800, Danial Thom wrote: --- Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with Windows XP. I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD really is not targeted at people who want to use graphical user interfaces. In a few key areas FreeBSD is a better desktop OS than Linux: Easier to keep the kernel/world and installed ports up to date for example without having to resort to the microsoft/Linux fixall method of removing and reinstalling everything every now and again. Your opinion is correct IMO that FreeBSD managers put most emphasis on FreeBSD as a server and little as a desktop. My guess is because donations(cash) and hardware support for developers come from people who want servers while people who want a desktop OS tend to donate squat The linux developers really have been trying to make a valuable replacement for Windows, as they somehow have experienced the same issues with Windows (And Microsoft products in general) that you have. One Linux distribution in particular that I think you might like, is Ubuntu. You can download it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/, or order a CD (Free shipping, free CD, you pay nothing). Advertising Linux in a FreeBSD mailing list? Sounds like you may have more of axe to grind against the FreeBSD management folk than a desire to offer sound advice -Mike Why not just tell the truth, which is that Windows XP is the best that you can do for the desktop Well, that's your opinion. For me, FreeBSD is a much better desktop than Windows -- it runs solid and fast and enables me to be more productive in my work. Of course, what is good for me might not be so good for someone else, I guess it depends on your needs. more productive in what way? Without considering all of the programs I use that only run in windows (such as my investment analysis tools, camera interface and photo editing programs), outline the productivity advantages of FreeBSD in terms of: 1) Time from unwrapping the computer to having a functional and usable system. For me, FreeBSD is about twice as fast/easy to install/configure, and infinitely cheaper. Considering that WinXP usually comes on the computer, I don't see how installing and configuring FreeBSD can be easier than having to do nothing at all? 2) General productivity advantages in a typical day. ie: what can you do with FreeBSD that you can't do in WinXP, and what is faster or more productive in FreeBSD Depends on what you use it for. I'm a C++ developer, and have a need to examine/search/manipulate text files quite often, Windows, out of the box, is inappropriate for this type of work. I'd have to install all sorts of applications, e.g., cygwin, et al, to get the applications/capabilities that come out of the box on a typical *nix system, FreeBSD, Linux, etc... I'm a developer also, but I don't use the FreeBSD desktop for this, I log into my freeBSD server with my desktop browser or telnet/ssh. I don't see how such things are relevent to using one desktop over the other. If, on the other hand, you are wedded to an application that only runs on windows, then the question is moot. Unfortunately, there is one windows program I'm forced to use, so I have a cheap laptop that sits on my desk for that purpose. Though I never use it directly, except to reboot it when it hangs, say once a week, I access it via rdesktop in a window from one of my FreeBSD systems, typically my new HP laptop. Being weded to an application and needing to do practical things are separate matters to me. With Windows i have choices of which apps I like better. With Freebsd, I usually have 1 choice or maybe no choices. But no one can convince you of which OS you should use. If you want to try one, try it. If not, don't. I couldn't care less which OS other people use, just as I couldn't care less which car you drive. I don't expect you to care, but saying you prefer FreeBSD and saying FreeBSD is better are different animals. I just wanted to know what you could do with FreeBSD that you can't do with Windows. I already know what I can do with Windows that I can't do with FreeBSD. DT
Re: BSD Question's.
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 14:01:53 -0800 (PST) Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't expect you to care, but saying you prefer FreeBSD and saying FreeBSD is better are different animals. I just wanted to know what you could do with FreeBSD that you can't do with Windows. I already know what I can do with Windows that I can't do with FreeBSD. I didn't see the first few emails in this thread so excuse me if you have answered this, but what can you do on Windows that you can't do on FreeBSD. Other than play the latest and greatest games. I'm just wondering. -- Rod http://www.opensourcebeef.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
--- rod person [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 14:01:53 -0800 (PST) Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't expect you to care, but saying you prefer FreeBSD and saying FreeBSD is better are different animals. I just wanted to know what you could do with FreeBSD that you can't do with Windows. I already know what I can do with Windows that I can't do with FreeBSD. I didn't see the first few emails in this thread so excuse me if you have answered this, but what can you do on Windows that you can't do on FreeBSD. Other than play the latest and greatest games. I'm just wondering. Schwab Streetsmart Accounting Software (CA) Quicken Photoshop Adobe Acrobat (for creating PDFs) Those are the ones I use daily. Surely there are some half-assed alternatives for some of these, but if I have to use something inferior to use FreeBSD then thats a point against it. Also, what you missed, was that I mentioned that you can be relatively sure that any hardware will have drivers for windows, while with FreeBSD you're never quite sure. Its also nice when you get a new printer or scanner to not have a 3 day project to get it to work. The only point I made was that FreeBSD is focused on server functions and that is justified by the simple fact that it will never be as useful as windows; if for no other reason than there simply aren't the resources for FreeBSD to be a good server and also a competitive desktop. DT __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pthread problems and ports on fresh 6.0 install
I wrote in a few days ago about gpgme not compiling. It had an error about several pthread_* functions. I got around it by installing from packages. Now I can't compile multimedia/gstreamer from ports for the same reason. (Error below). I'm not sure what to do, or even what the problem is... Any help in tracking the problem down is appreciated. I'm running FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE i386 with the generic kernel installed off CD. Thanks, Micah *** For GPGME error message see: *** http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-December/108171.html ***Error Message*** cc -shared .libs/libgstspider_la-gstspider.o .libs/libgstspider_la-gstspideridentity.o .libs/libgstspider_la-gstsearchfuncs.o -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/ports/multimedia/gstreamer/work/gstreamer-0.8.11/gst/.libs -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/local/lib ../../gst/.libs/libgstreamer-0.8.so -march=athlon -Wl,-soname -Wl,libgstspider.so -Wl,-retain-symbols-file -Wl,.libs/libgstspider.exp -o .libs/libgstspider.so creating libgstspider.la (cd .libs rm -f libgstspider.la ln -s ../libgstspider.la libgstspider.la) if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I/usr/local/include -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -fno-common -g -Wall -DGST_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -I../../libs -I../.. -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -O2 -pipe -march=athlon -MT spidertest-spidertest.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/spidertest-spidertest.Tpo -c -o spidertest-spidertest.o `test -f 'spidertest.c' || echo './'`spidertest.c; \ then mv -f .deps/spidertest-spidertest.Tpo .deps/spidertest-spidertest.Po; else rm -f .deps/spidertest-spidertest.Tpo; exit 1; fi /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool15 --tag=CC --mode=link cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -O2 -pipe -march=athlon -L/usr/local/lib -o spidertest spidertest-spidertest.o ../../gst/libgstreamer-0.8.la cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -O2 -pipe -march=athlon -o .libs/spidertest spidertest-spidertest.o -L/usr/local/lib ../../gst/.libs/libgstreamer-0.8.so -lxml2 -lz -lgobject-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -liconv -lpopt -lintl -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/X11R6/lib /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to `pthread_attr_destroy' /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to `pthread_create' /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to `pthread_attr_init' /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to `pthread_exit' /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to `pthread_equal' /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to `pthread_getschedparam' /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to `pthread_attr_setscope' /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to `pthread_setschedparam' /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to `pthread_attr_setstacksize' /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to `pthread_attr_setschedparam' /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to `pthread_attr_setdetachstate' /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to `pthread_join' /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to `pthread_cond_timedwait' /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to `pthread_attr_getschedparam' gmake[4]: *** [spidertest] Error 1 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/multimedia/gstreamer/work/gstreamer-0.8.11/gst/autoplug' gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/multimedia/gstreamer/work/gstreamer-0.8.11/gst' gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/multimedia/gstreamer/work/gstreamer-0.8.11/gst' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/multimedia/gstreamer/work/gstreamer-0.8.11' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/gstreamer. # ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
On Saturday 24 December 2005 02:24 pm, rod person wrote: On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 14:01:53 -0800 (PST) Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't expect you to care, but saying you prefer FreeBSD and saying FreeBSD is better are different animals. I just wanted to know what you could do with FreeBSD that you can't do with Windows. I already know what I can do with Windows that I can't do with FreeBSD. I didn't see the first few emails in this thread so excuse me if you have answered this, but what can you do on Windows that you can't do on FreeBSD. Other than play the latest and greatest games. I'm just wondering. Get a real development platform that will also build programs on Unix. Microsoft's developer program will use cvs on Unix, and submit scripts to do the builds. On its bad day, there isn't anything on Unix that comes close and that includes the ones you have to pay to use. Just to be fair, I had to do a conversion from Cray Fortran to non-Cray Fortran. It was an old program that allocated arrays and used pointers with offsets in the calls to the subroutines. The debugger on FreeBSD would catch the signal error but wouldn't show you the contents of the arrays. MS debug would just error off; however, if you stuck a breakpoint on the call that was blowing up on Unix, you could examine the arrays on Windows and see what caused the errors. It is handy to have them both around :). Kent Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA Nunca te acostarás sin saber una cosa más http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: umass detected, but da is never created
Philip Lykke Carlsen wrote: I have this external harddisk kit, and when I plug it in, the system correctly recognizes it as a umass.. but afterwards, the da device is never created.. this is what I get from the console: umass0: vendor 0x05e3 USB TO IDE, rev 2.00/0.33, addr 2 umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT Also, the very same thing but the timeouts are happening if I connect an Apple iPod.. And for the record, I had this problem with both the generic and my custom kernel.. both with umass,da,ses,pass compiled in.. Any ideas as for how to solve this? Any guidelines and I'd gladly edit the files in question and submit a patch, when I get it working.. PS, Any other usb-drive I've tried has worked without problems.. Greetings, I have an external USB enclosure into which I can plug either of two IDE hard drives, each in a separate caddy. One works perfectly, the other produces something very similar to the above error fairly consistently, and triggers reboots of the FreeBSD (5.3) box when the enclosure is plugged in or out with the 'broken' caddy inserted. After some experimentation and close examination, it appears that the cable inside the 'broken' caddy may have been slightly damaged. Manipulating the cable (squashing it down into the caddy so the sliding caddy lid does not scrape against it) appears to go some way towards solving the problem. So in my case I would say that it was a hardware (cabling) problem within the caddy, and thus within the USB enclosure. Other USB devices, including the second caddy and a couple of flash drives, seem to work fine. Rowdy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
On 2005-12-24 07:34, Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not just tell the truth, which is that Windows XP is the best that you can do for the desktop, and that there is no perfect solution that works perfectly in every scenario? Because it's not the truth. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
On 2005-12-24 09:16, Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 07:34, Danial Thom wrote: FreeBSD and Linux *should* focus on server functions, because that is where MS is weak and that is where its needed. There will likely never be a solid reason to use BSD or linux as a desktop other than religion; while there are many compelling reasons to use BSD and/or linux servers. Your opinion. Mine is FreeBSD has the potential to be a better desktop than either ms or Linux. The big problem at the moment is with web browser plugins. Desktop users coming from ms land demand these and FreeBSD simply comes up short in supporting them. I have faith that will change eventually. You're pretty much admitting here that FreeBSD desktop is not as functional as windows. Which was exactly the point I was making. No, he's admitting that there is one feature of Windows that some users may miss when they transition to FreeBSD. I can ennumerate at least two that FreeBSD users sorely miss when they are forced to work on Windows too. FreeBSD has the potential to be a very good MP OS. Currently it is not, so I don't use it. I need to run a business. Potential only means that I monitor its progress; I use what is the best available at the time for any given function. Good for you :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB mice
On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 09:29:53AM -0600, Teilhard Knight wrote: - Original Message - From: Russell J. Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 8:43 AM Subject: Re: USB mice On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 03:36:28AM -0600, Teilhard Knight wrote: It seems to me that the way FreeBSD is catching up with new hardware leaves you unsatisfied. One has to choose, upon boot, the option to use an USB keyboard by hand, and I have found no way to make a USB mouse to work. The OS broadly supports serial mice and hardly PS/2 mice, both almost out of the market nowadays. Are USB mice supported by FreeBSD? I have a USB keyboard and I don't have to choose the ``USB Keyboard'' option at start up. Also, I have a USB Mouse hooked up via a hub in my keyboard. Works fine. Are they, your keyboard and your mouse, wireless? Teilhard. No, they are not. However, before this setup I was using a complete wireless setup. Logictec keyboard/mouse combination, from memory. - Russell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
On 2005-12-24 14:01, Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For me, FreeBSD is about twice as fast/easy to install/configure, and infinitely cheaper. Considering that WinXP usually comes on the computer, I don't see how installing and configuring FreeBSD can be easier than having to do nothing at all? Windows XP comes preinstalled, yes. Not preconfigured too. It so happens that configuring a Windows XP system to match one's preferences has the potential to: a) Screw the machine up so completely and utterly that a reinstall is required. b) Take a lot of time. A huge lot of time, because of all the different 'driver' installation processes. On 2005-12-24 14:01, Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) General productivity advantages in a typical day. ie: what can you do with FreeBSD that you can't do in WinXP, and what is faster or more productive in FreeBSD Depends on what you use it for. I'm a C++ developer, and have a need to examine/search/manipulate text files quite often, Windows, out of the box, is inappropriate for this type of work. I'd have to install all sorts of applications, e.g., cygwin, et al, to get the applications/capabilities that come out of the box on a typical *nix system, FreeBSD, Linux, etc... I'm a developer also, but I don't use the FreeBSD desktop for this, I log into my freeBSD server with my desktop browser or telnet/ssh. I don't see how such things are relevent to using one desktop over the other. Why should you have to use remote SSH to a second system, when you can just pop up an xterm and instantly have all the power of the tools you actually *do* use today too? I don't expect you to care, but saying you prefer FreeBSD and saying FreeBSD is better are different animals. I just wanted to know what you could do with FreeBSD that you can't do with Windows. I already know what I can do with Windows that I can't do with FreeBSD. There are a lot of things that can be done with FreeBSD, which are practically impossible or very confusing in Windows. Then there's also the stability issue :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
On Saturday 24 December 2005 02:57 pm, Danial Thom wrote: --- rod person [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 14:01:53 -0800 (PST) Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't expect you to care, but saying you prefer FreeBSD and saying FreeBSD is better are different animals. I just wanted to know what you could do with FreeBSD that you can't do with Windows. I already know what I can do with Windows that I can't do with FreeBSD. I didn't see the first few emails in this thread so excuse me if you have answered this, but what can you do on Windows that you can't do on FreeBSD. Other than play the latest and greatest games. I'm just wondering. Schwab Streetsmart Accounting Software (CA) Quicken Photoshop Adobe Acrobat (for creating PDFs) There are a couple of others. I use Adobe GoLive and haven't found an equivalent. I could do some of the stuff better with a text editor but when I use GoLive, the whole update would be finished before I was hardly started using a text editor on FreeBSD. There is also the problem that some sites are designed to work with Internet Explorer. You can try to visit with firefox but that doesn't always work even with firefox on XP. We are still running flash-6 and 7 is in the works but I think that they have already announced that it has security problems. The fixed multimedia products are always released on Windows and it takes a while for them to get arount to the other OSes. You only have to look at the people recently with problems getting plugins to work on FreeBSD. You won't have any problem getting them to run on XP. They probably wouldn't work properly on Linux either. Now, I wouldn't use Outlook Express unless I was still working and the company demanded it. I am happy using kmail and thunderbird. But I forward some to my internal XP account because the graphics don't work properly with my setup. For a while, I was updating FreeBSD to add security fixes as much as I did my Windows 2K server. Both normally run for months without being rebooted. The OSes usually overlap and as long as I have choices available, I won't have to force a project onto an OS when it is really simple to add it to the one other OSes. That is the advantage of a heterogeneous computing environment. Projects just automagically move onto the OS where it is easiest to work on them. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA Nunca te acostarás sin saber una cosa más http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB mice
On 2005-12-25 09:13, Russell J. Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 09:29:53AM -0600, Teilhard Knight wrote: Russell J. Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 03:36:28AM -0600, Teilhard Knight wrote: It seems to me that the way FreeBSD is catching up with new hardware leaves you unsatisfied. One has to choose, upon boot, the option to use an USB keyboard by hand, and I have found no way to make a USB mouse to work. The OS broadly supports serial mice and hardly PS/2 mice, both almost out of the market nowadays. Are USB mice supported by FreeBSD? I have a USB keyboard and I don't have to choose the ``USB Keyboard'' option at start up. Also, I have a USB Mouse hooked up via a hub in my keyboard. Works fine. Are they, your keyboard and your mouse, wireless? No, they are not. However, before this setup I was using a complete wireless setup. Logictec keyboard/mouse combination, from memory. USB mice are supported, but I'm not sure about install time. I very rarely install from a CD-ROM these days and even when I do, I don't use the mouse at all. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB mice
On Sun, Dec 25, 2005 at 04:01:00AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2005-12-25 09:13, Russell J. Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 09:29:53AM -0600, Teilhard Knight wrote: Russell J. Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 03:36:28AM -0600, Teilhard Knight wrote: It seems to me that the way FreeBSD is catching up with new hardware leaves you unsatisfied. One has to choose, upon boot, the option to use an USB keyboard by hand, and I have found no way to make a USB mouse to work. The OS broadly supports serial mice and hardly PS/2 mice, both almost out of the market nowadays. Are USB mice supported by FreeBSD? I have a USB keyboard and I don't have to choose the ``USB Keyboard'' option at start up. Also, I have a USB Mouse hooked up via a hub in my keyboard. Works fine. Are they, your keyboard and your mouse, wireless? No, they are not. However, before this setup I was using a complete wireless setup. Logictec keyboard/mouse combination, from memory. USB mice are supported, but I'm not sure about install time. I very rarely install from a CD-ROM these days and even when I do, I don't use the mouse at all. Who needs a mouse at install time? The keyboard is suffice. - Russell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPv6: routing on the local LAN
On 25 Dec 2005 at 2:59, Ariff Abdullah wrote: On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:37:56 -0500 Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gidday folks, I have an IPv6 routing problem within my LAN behind the gateway. I have an IPv6 tunnel supplied by Hurricane Electric. The tunnel is setup and working. From my gateway I can access various IPv6 websites (e.g http://www.kame.net). I have enabled rtadvd(8) on my gateway. For the netstat, ifconfig, etc, see [1]. From a computer inside my gateway, I cannot ping anything, not even the gateway. I suspect it's because the routing tables are not being set up on the gateway. I expected the system to do that automatically. I also expected fxp0 to get an IPv6 address out of this. Did I guess wrong? I suspect that if I can get fxp0 on the gateway, all will be well. If not, I think Ineed to set up static routes. Add a single 2001:470:1F00:1979::/64 address each for both fxp0/1. You don't even need rtadv.conf :) rc.conf:- ipv6_ifconfig_fxp0=2001:470:1F00:1979::1/64 ipv6_ifconfig_fxp1=2001:470:1F00:1979::2/64 Thanks. I wanted to run rtadvd for the boxes inside the LAN. That ensure they get an address in the right range (AFAIK). Now... I just have to find someone with services, such as cvsup, available only over IPv6 But what I've been reading indicates that cvsup is not IPv6 aware. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - The Technical BSD Conference - http://www.bsdcan.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
People please, I did not come in search of a debate as to which OS was better. I came in Search of a newer or if you will, another choice in an OS. Two OS's which have been pointed out to me and look very promising are. 1. PC BSD 2. ALinux Both offer a lot, and I know as many people do that there is on one single OS that offers the perfect solution for everything. However I also know now something I did not know 24 hours ago. and that was that there are a wide range of choices that are availible and contrey to popular belief not all BSD and linux OS's are created the same. I also know now that William Gate is single individual who believes that the word team has an I in it some place. Something that BSD Linux knows does not exsist. After what William Gates and his Windows have put me through over the last three years. You can be sure that which ever OS choose will be desined by a TEAM and not by some knit wit that works for team Gates. Now can someone put me in touch with The Insane clown Posie. I have a project in mind...LOL! Merry christmas to all and thank you for your help. . DA Consultants George A. Sjostrom II Helping those who can help them selves http://www.geocities.com/andy_sjostrom/index.html __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gtk2-2.2.1-4.i386.rpm not available
Greetings - I was attempting to load a few ports over the past couple of days and kept running into this problem with gtk2-2.2.1-4.i386.rpm. (Running FBSD 5.4) Earlier today, I tried loading the pips-sc60s driver. (/usr/ports/print/pips-sc60s) This driver (if I had been succesful installing it) would have permitted me to use my Epson C60 printer. Installation of the pips-sc60s driver failed. For reasons I don't understand, this port tries to install linuxpluginwrapper, linux-flashplugin6, linux-realplayer... (?) The whole process failed: = Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/rpm/. fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/rpm/gtk2-2.2.1-4.i386.rpm: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) = Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this = port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/rpm and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/linux-gtk2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/linux-realplayer. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/pips-sc60s. Later, I tried installing flashpluinwrapper and linuxpluginwrapper (at different times to see if I could manually get these dependencies resolved, deinstalling the dregs of one before attempting the installation of the other) in an attempt to get RealPlayer running on my system. I received a similar failure message: = Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/rpm/. fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/rpm/gtk2-2.2.1-4.i386.rpm: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) = Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this = port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/rpm and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/linux-gtk2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/linux-realplayer. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper. --- My /var/db/pkg area thinks that I have the following installed: gtk-1.2.10_12 gtk-2.6.4_1 So I don't know why those apps seem to need gtk2-2.2.1-4 when 2.6.4.1 is already installed. And I don't understand why these bits of software will not install properly. Suggestions appreciated. -- paz. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
USB/multi-wheel mice conf files if anyone wants them
In case it is of any help to anyone, I recently got two of my mice running on FreeBSD 5.4 with Xorg, and I could post the Xorg conf files I ended up using. One of the mice is an A4Tech Optical GreatEye, which has two mice wheels. One is for up-and -down, the other wheel is for right-to-left manipulation. The other mouse is a Starlogic mini trackball (optical) mouse. It's small and has a small trackball on top instead of mice wheels. (Compaq markets basically the same design as the Starlogic.) This means that I can do the up-down or side-to-side scrolling with the trackball. It is such a pleasure to be using FreeBSD with these newer, optical mice with multiple scroll wheels (or the trackball). Cheers, -- paz. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB/multi-wheel mice conf files if anyone wants them
--On December 24, 2005 9:50:58 PM -0500 Your Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In case it is of any help to anyone, I recently got two of my mice running on FreeBSD 5.4 with Xorg, and I could post the Xorg conf files I ended up using. It will help. Please post them. Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux and .tbz
Is there a package install utility for FreeBSD's .tbz files that can be use on a Linux platform? And, can FreeBSD package apps run on Linux platforms? Sincerely Yours, Howard $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BSD Question's.
I didn't see the first few emails in this thread so excuse me if you have answered this, but what can you do on Windows that you can't do on FreeBSD. Other than play the latest and greatest games. I'm just wondering. Schwab Streetsmart Accounting Software (CA) I don't know these, so I can't comment. Quicken I run Quickbooks on an old 98SE box. I also use this machine for a proprietary program NIH now requires for electronic submission of grant applications. At the moment, it runs only on Windows. Photoshop I don't need full Photoshop -- I use GIMP and NIH's ImageJ, which are good enough for my applications. These are very technical (mainly interpreting photomicrographs), and not putting cat or dog heads on images of people. Also, many versions of Photoshop (but not CS) run quite well under Wine. Adobe Acrobat (for creating PDFs) I run this under Wine, and it works fine. Usually I create PDFs with ghostscript, but Acrobat is very useful for things like sorting or collating pre-existing PDF files, which I do need, and filling PDF forms. Then again, I use troff and TeX for text formatting, which most people don't. No question, the greatest strength of Windows is the huge amount of software available for it. EVERYTHING runs on Windows, and yes, you have to invest time in FreeBSD to get things to work right. Usually there is an acceptable work-around. Not always, but usually. While I don't use the Win98 box much, it is useful to have around. Since you can pick one of these up for $100 or so, I don't see this as a limitation if you prefer the Unix environment most of the time, which I do. One thing that FreeBSD (and Linux) offers is an extensive numerical analysis software (matrix inversions, Finite Element methods, graphical pre- and post-processors and statistical software) and decent free compilers that would cost a lot on Windows. That's very helpful for a cash-strapped start-up, like mine. Admittedly that is not the question the OP had. OTOH, the amount of money I've save on software has allowed me to hire someone to do more work in the lab. That's the most important thing for me. Frank ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux and .tbz
Hi, On 12/24/05, Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a package install utility for FreeBSD's .tbz files that can be use on a Linux platform? well, you can expand that package file with bunzip2 and tar (is nothing more than a bzipped tarball.) And, can FreeBSD package apps run on Linux platforms? Nope. Howard Carlos -- nick grah windows just crashed again, unstable crap. yukito Windows isn't unstable, it's just spontaneous. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DTS decode with mplayer?
hello, all does anybody knows how to configure mplayer to decode DTS soundtrack while playing a DVDRip movie? recently more and more movies seem to use XViD+DTS technology. Any suggestion will be appreciated. thanks -- Best Regards. Yuan Jue ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPv6: routing on the local LAN
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 21:22:20 -0500 Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25 Dec 2005 at 2:59, Ariff Abdullah wrote: On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:37:56 -0500 Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gidday folks, I have an IPv6 routing problem within my LAN behind the gateway. I have an IPv6 tunnel supplied by Hurricane Electric. The tunnel is setup and working. From my gateway I can access various IPv6 websites (e.g http://www.kame.net). I have enabled rtadvd(8) on my gateway. For the netstat, ifconfig, etc, see [1]. From a computer inside my gateway, I cannot ping anything, not even the gateway. I suspect it's because the routing tables are not being set up on the gateway. I expected the system to do that automatically. I also expected fxp0 to get an IPv6 address out of this. Did I guess wrong? I suspect that if I can get fxp0 on the gateway, all will be well. If not, I think Ineed to set up static routes. Add a single 2001:470:1F00:1979::/64 address each for both fxp0/1. You don't even need rtadv.conf :) rc.conf:- ipv6_ifconfig_fxp0=2001:470:1F00:1979::1/64 ipv6_ifconfig_fxp1=2001:470:1F00:1979::2/64 Thanks. I wanted to run rtadvd for the boxes inside the LAN. That ensure they get an address in the right range (AFAIK). For this simple configuration, you don't even need rtadvd.conf. Adding anyprefix/64 address to router interface and running rtadvd -D router_interface will do the job. Now... I just have to find someone with services, such as cvsup, available only over IPv6 But what I've been reading indicates that cvsup is not IPv6 aware. AFAIK we're out of luck for now. -- Ariff Abdullah MyBSD http://www.MyBSD.org.my (IPv6/IPv4) http://staff.MyBSD.org.my (IPv6/IPv4) http://tomoyo.MyBSD.org.my (IPv6/IPv4) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wireless NIC in FreeBSD 6.0 ?
Hello, all Does anybody success to use wireless NIC in FreeBSD6.0 in HP NC6000? Back to FreeBSD 5.4, my wireless card just works, but not in FreeBSD 6.0. I use the following steps to try to use my wireless card: 1.change to root, then kldload if_ath after this, I can use kldstat to see this: Id Refs AddressSize Name 19 0xc040 328db0 kernel 21 0xc0729000 bc40 kqemu.ko 3 16 0xc0735000 5683cacpi.ko 61 0xc296a000 e000 if_ath.ko 71 0xc2978000 3000 ath_rate.ko 81 0xc297b000 24000ath_hal.ko and use ifconfig to see this: bge0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 options=1aTXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING inet 166.111.208.143 netmask 0xfe00 broadcast 166.111.209.255 ether 00:0d:9d:90:e0:68 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex) status: active lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 ath0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:11:85:1b:21:79 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier ssid channel 1 authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 100 protmode CTS 2.I use DHCP to get my IP address. dhclient ath0 the response is this: DHCPREQUEST on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPREQUEST on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPREQUEST on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPACK from 166.111.208.1 bound to 166.111.208.137 -- renewal in 3600 seconds. and use ifconfig can see: ath0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet 166.111.208.137 netmask 0xfe00 broadcast 166.111.209.255 ether 00:11:85:1b:21:79 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (OFDM/36Mbps) status: associated ssid A314b channel 11 bssid 00:09:5b:d1:fa:c4 authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 30 protmode CTS bintval 100 it seems that the wireless NIC should be working now, right? but when i try to ping some IP which definitely should be connected from the IP address I have got, like : ping 166.111.8.28 (this is the DNS server) the result is this: PING 166.111.8.28 (166.111.8.28): 56 data bytes ping: send to: No route to host ping: send to: No route to host ping: send to: No route to host ping: send to: No route to host ping: send to: No route to host ping: send to: No route to host ping: send to: No route to host ping: send to: No route to host ^C --- 166.111.8.28 ping statistics --- 17 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss it means I cannot connect to the internet even when I have got the wireless card an IP address using DHCP. WHY? can anybody help on this? any suggestion would be much appreciated. -- Best Regards. Yuan Jue ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gtk2-2.2.1-4.i386.rpm not available
On Sun, 2005-12-25 at 02:44, Your Name wrote: Greetings - I was attempting to load a few ports over the past couple of days and kept running into this problem with gtk2-2.2.1-4.i386.rpm. (Running FBSD 5.4) Earlier today, I tried loading the pips-sc60s driver. (/usr/ports/print/pips-sc60s) This driver (if I had been succesful installing it) would have permitted me to use my Epson C60 printer. Installation of the pips-sc60s driver failed. For reasons I don't understand, this port tries to install linuxpluginwrapper, linux-flashplugin6, linux-realplayer... (?) The whole process failed: = Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/rpm/. fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/rpm/gtk2-2.2.1-4.i386.rpm: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) = Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this = port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/rpm and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/linux-gtk2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/linux-realplayer. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/pips-sc60s. Later, I tried installing flashpluinwrapper and linuxpluginwrapper (at different times to see if I could manually get these dependencies resolved, deinstalling the dregs of one before attempting the installation of the other) in an attempt to get RealPlayer running on my system. I received a similar failure message: = Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/rpm/. fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/rpm/gtk2-2.2.1-4.i386.rpm: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) = Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this = port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/rpm and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/linux-gtk2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/linux-realplayer. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper. --- My /var/db/pkg area thinks that I have the following installed: gtk-1.2.10_12 gtk-2.6.4_1 So I don't know why those apps seem to need gtk2-2.2.1-4 when 2.6.4.1 is already installed. And I don't understand why these bits of software will not install properly. Suggestions appreciated. -- paz. Paz, As you say gtk 2-2.2 is out of date and has been superseded which is why you can't download it because it is not in the ports. According to: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=pipsstype=allsektion=all Pips in now pips-sc60s-2.5.2_1 which requires gtk-1.2.10_13. Are your ports up to date? try doing a CVSup. Rob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
