Re: Getting rid of X

2009-08-19 Thread Mark Stapper
Chris Whitehouse wrote: > John Nielsen wrote: >> On Wednesday 19 August 2009 12:17:10 Scott Schappell wrote: >>> In a parallel sort of thread to the current desktop thread, when I >>> installed FreeBSD 7.2 since I had plenty of disk space and memory I >>> installed X, however, I don't need it or re

Re: [OT] Vim mailing list

2009-08-19 Thread Frank Shute
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:59:05AM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > > Apologies up front for the off-topic'dness. > > > > I'm thoroughly enjoying my new editor, and swiftly learning and > > experiencing the benefits. As a matter of fact, nearly

Re:

2009-08-19 Thread Tim Judd
On 8/19/09, Olaf Leidinger wrote: > Dear list, > > I'd like to install FreeBSD 7.2 on my computer for testing purpuse and > eventually remove my Linux installation. Using FreeBSD in VirtualBox > works fine, so far. I can't install it on my real hardware, as the > installation media won't boot: > >

Re: csh & tcsh history missing after reboot FBSD_8

2009-08-19 Thread Warren Block
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Al Plant wrote: Warren Block wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Al Plant wrote: Terminal history gone. I cannot get any recent version of FreeBSD 8.* to keep the csh or tcsh history across a "reboot" in root or usr. It stays after "exit" and a new login however. Does the his

Re: csh & tcsh history missing after reboot FBSD_8

2009-08-19 Thread Al Plant
Warren Block wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Al Plant wrote: Aloha, Terminal history gone. I cannot get any recent version of FreeBSD 8.* to keep the csh or tcsh history across a "reboot" in root or usr. It stays after "exit" and a new login however. Does the history stick around if you do "s

Re: csh & tcsh history missing after reboot FBSD_8

2009-08-19 Thread Warren Block
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Al Plant wrote: Aloha, Terminal history gone. I cannot get any recent version of FreeBSD 8.* to keep the csh or tcsh history across a "reboot" in root or usr. It stays after "exit" and a new login however. Does the history stick around if you do "shutdown -r now" inste

Flash10 with 8.0-BETA2 and Firefox 3.5.2

2009-08-19 Thread Warren Block
On 8.0-BETA2 with www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 and www/firefox35 installed. As per the Handbook, a soft link in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins to /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so. nspluginwrapper -a -i runs normally. linprocfs mounted, and nspluginwrapper -l shows

csh & tcsh history missing after reboot FBSD_8

2009-08-19 Thread Al Plant
Aloha, Terminal history gone. I cannot get any recent version of FreeBSD 8.* to keep the csh or tcsh history across a "reboot" in root or usr. It stays after "exit" and a new login however. This happens on several machines that previously ran FreeBSD 7* with no issues. One runs AMD64 and one

Re: netbooks for freebsd?

2009-08-19 Thread Warren Block
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Manolis Kiagias wrote: Aspire One (the original one) also works nicely with FreeBSD. If buying a newer model it is best to check it at a shop display or stg, since the hardware has changed and some models may be incompatible (esp. check video card and wireless chipset. The

Re: netbooks for freebsd?

2009-08-19 Thread Steve Franks
>> Al Plant wrote: >> > Jeff Hamann wrote: >> >> I would like to try some experimental software on a netbook. Can >> >> somebody recommend a netbook that can do FreeBSD. I'm displeased with my Lenovo S10. On the upside, all the hardware worked on 7.2 out of the box, after I swapped the internal b

Re:

2009-08-19 Thread Glen Barber
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Olaf Leidinger wrote: > Dear list, > > I'd like to install FreeBSD 7.2 on my computer for testing purpuse and > eventually remove my Linux installation. Using FreeBSD in VirtualBox > works fine, so far. I can't install it on my real hardware, as the > installation m

freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

2009-08-19 Thread Olaf Leidinger
Dear list, I'd like to install FreeBSD 7.2 on my computer for testing purpuse and eventually remove my Linux installation. Using FreeBSD in VirtualBox works fine, so far. I can't install it on my real hardware, as the installation media won't boot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41639...@n06/383557

Re: duplex printing with OOo.

2009-08-19 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 08:28:34PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:05:19 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > Well, after umch mucking around, the Brother 5250DN works with > > OO and prints in Duplex only if I turn the dialog to OFF where is > > say > > > > Duplex

Re: netbooks for freebsd?

2009-08-19 Thread Randall Wood
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:11:20PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Al Plant wrote: > > Jeff Hamann wrote: > >> I would like to try some experimental software on a netbook. Can > >> somebody recommend a netbook that can do FreeBSD. Too soon to know, but I've just ordered the Starling, a netbook so

Re: Getting rid of X

2009-08-19 Thread Chris Whitehouse
John Nielsen wrote: On Wednesday 19 August 2009 12:17:10 Scott Schappell wrote: In a parallel sort of thread to the current desktop thread, when I installed FreeBSD 7.2 since I had plenty of disk space and memory I installed X, however, I don't need it or really want it. How can I pare that out

Re: netbooks for freebsd?

2009-08-19 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Al Plant wrote: > Jeff Hamann wrote: >> I would like to try some experimental software on a netbook. Can >> somebody recommend a netbook that can do FreeBSD. >> >> Requirements: >> >> 1) Need to able to wipe out any ms-windows stuff, get installed, boot >> up and running within 60 minutes of my tim

Re: duplex printing with OOo.

2009-08-19 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:05:19 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > Well, after umch mucking around, the Brother 5250DN works with > OO and prints in Duplex only if I turn the dialog to OFF where is > say > > Duplex __ [arrows] Do I understand this correctly? Dup

Re: netbooks for freebsd?

2009-08-19 Thread Al Plant
Jeff Hamann wrote: I would like to try some experimental software on a netbook. Can somebody recommend a netbook that can do FreeBSD. Requirements: 1) Need to able to wipe out any ms-windows stuff, get installed, boot up and running within 60 minutes of my time. Download, svn checkouts, etc.

Re: duplex printing with OOo.

2009-08-19 Thread Gary Kline
Well, after umch mucking around, the Brother 5250DN works with OO and prints in Duplex only if I turn the dialog to OFF where is say Duplex __ [arrows] Now that that's resolved, I can change the printer web page config back to Sim

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-19 Thread Ian Smith
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:23:29 -0700 Walt Pawley > At 4:44 PM +0200 8/17/09, Heiner Strauß wrote: [..] > >Putting the symbol names in one word helped the linker / loader a lot. > >Live was so easy. > > > >Heiner > > > >C(one word = 32 bit) .NOT. (some word processor software) > > As so

Re: Desktop Install Option

2009-08-19 Thread Al Plant
Sabeeh Baig wrote: So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used on servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation, something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard Desk

Re: duplex printing with OOo.

2009-08-19 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:00:20 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > It's been years since I tried CUPS; it gives me fits. In > short, it has never worked. With "modern" printers that are not standard compliant, you almost have no way around CUPS. Printers that can do PS don't need any printer f

Re: duplex printing with OOo.

2009-08-19 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 05:40:50PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:23:07 -0400, Bill Moran > wrote: > > It works for me, using 3 steps: > > > > 1) Use CUPS instead of lpd > > CUPS brings its own lpd, so in fact you're still using a lpd, > even if it's not the system one's. :-)

Re: netbooks for freebsd?

2009-08-19 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:29:12 -0700, Jeff Hamann wrote: > 1) Need to able to wipe out any ms-windows stuff, get installed, boot > up and running within 60 minutes of my time. Download, svn checkouts, > etc. not included. I've tired of spending weekend marathons for "fun" There's a good proced

Re: Recovering files after a crash

2009-08-19 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Roland Smith writes: >> Is there a FBSD crash guide? > > Not that I know of. The only guidance that really matter would be "make sure > you have backed up critical data". No need for elaborate guides. :-) Any data that isn't securely backed up, including offsite, isn't really important to you.

Re: netbooks for freebsd?

2009-08-19 Thread Mak Kolybabi
On 2009-08-19 09:29, Jeff Hamann wrote: > I would like to try some experimental software on a netbook. Can somebody > recommend a netbook that can do FreeBSD. I've put FreeBSD on an Asus Eee PC before. It worked rather nicely. Just be careful, because the wiki[1] page notes that some models contai

Re: Getting rid of X

2009-08-19 Thread Scott Schappell
On Aug 19, 2009, at 09:19:56, Glen Barber wrote: Hi, You can deinstall the x11/xorg metaport. (Or, pkg_delete -x xorg.) The "leftovers" can be removed with ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves. HTH -- Glen Barber Thanks, Glen and John. I pared out 72 packages. I kept ones that seemed ambiguously

netbooks for freebsd?

2009-08-19 Thread Jeff Hamann
I would like to try some experimental software on a netbook. Can somebody recommend a netbook that can do FreeBSD. Requirements: 1) Need to able to wipe out any ms-windows stuff, get installed, boot up and running within 60 minutes of my time. Download, svn checkouts, etc. not included. I'

Re: Getting rid of X

2009-08-19 Thread John Nielsen
On Wednesday 19 August 2009 12:17:10 Scott Schappell wrote: > In a parallel sort of thread to the current desktop thread, when I > installed FreeBSD 7.2 since I had plenty of disk space and memory I > installed X, however, I don't need it or really want it. > > How can I pare that out of the system

Re: Getting rid of X

2009-08-19 Thread Glen Barber
Hi, On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Scott Schappell wrote: > In a parallel sort of thread to the current desktop thread, when I installed > FreeBSD 7.2 since I had plenty of disk space and memory I installed X, > however, I don't need it or really want it. > > How can I pare that out of the syst

Getting rid of X

2009-08-19 Thread Scott Schappell
In a parallel sort of thread to the current desktop thread, when I installed FreeBSD 7.2 since I had plenty of disk space and memory I installed X, however, I don't need it or really want it. How can I pare that out of the system short of doing a complete rebuild? Scott _

Re: Desktop Install Option

2009-08-19 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:54:51AM -0400, Sabeeh Baig wrote: > So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used on > servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation, > something

Re: Desktop Install Option

2009-08-19 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:57:21 -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > FreeBSD is the one that does let users have an option. One of > those options is pcBSD. There are others who make up a bundle > with FreeBSD as the base OS that already has your GUI and other > things built for you -- a FreeBSD deskt

Re: Recovering files after a crash

2009-08-19 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 09:59:32AM +0200, Erik Norgaard wrote: > Thanks, I couldn't decipher these GEOM_LABEL messages, nice to know that > I can stop worrying. But for future incidents, the second question remains: > > 1. How do I best protect my system from disk errors in case of a crash? One

Re: Desktop Install Option

2009-08-19 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 05:00:27PM +0200, beni wrote: > Op woensdag 19 augustus 2009 09:18:15 schreef Steve Bertrand: > > Sabeeh Baig wrote: > > > So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose > > > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used >

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-19 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:22:11 +0200, Heiner Strauß wrote: > Didn't need lower case at this time. REAL PROGRAMMERS USED FORTRAN > > http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/real.programmers.html When you're there, don't miss "The story about Mel". By the way... we have a Mel on our mailing list... :-)

Re: duplex printing with OOo.

2009-08-19 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:23:07 -0400, Bill Moran wrote: > It works for me, using 3 steps: > > 1) Use CUPS instead of lpd CUPS brings its own lpd, so in fact you're still using a lpd, even if it's not the system one's. :-) > 2) Install a PPD for the printer that knows about duplex printing It s

Re: Desktop Install Option

2009-08-19 Thread beni
Op woensdag 19 augustus 2009 09:18:15 schreef Steve Bertrand: > Sabeeh Baig wrote: > > So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose > > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used > > on servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a deskto

Re: freebsd

2009-08-19 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:42:39PM +0200, BONGANI MANGANYE wrote: > I know freebsd is free but i would like to know how much will I pay if I > need additional package like updates and other useful software, Nothing if you install stuff from ports or from any of the many free software products ava

Re: Desktop Install Option

2009-08-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
Andrew Gould wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Sabeeh Baig wrote: >> So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose >> operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used on >> servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installat

Re: Desktop Install Option

2009-08-19 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:54:51AM -0400, Sabeeh Baig wrote: > So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used on > servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation, > something

Re: Desktop Install Option

2009-08-19 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Sabeeh Baig wrote: > So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used on > servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation, > something simila

Re: freebsd

2009-08-19 Thread Daniel Molina Wegener
On Wednesday 19 August 2009 07:42:39 BONGANI MANGANYE wrote: > I know freebsd is free but i would like to know how much will > I pay if I need additional package like updates and other > useful software,and can you tell how secure it is how > protected i will be if i use freebsd FreeBSD is relea

Re: Desktop Install Option

2009-08-19 Thread Andrew Gould
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Sabeeh Baig wrote: > So, I've been wondering about something.  FreeBSD is a general purpose > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used on > servers.  Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation, > something similar

Re: freebsd

2009-08-19 Thread Erik Norgaard
BONGANI MANGANYE wrote: I know freebsd is free but i would like to know how much will I pay if I need additional package like updates and other useful software,and can you tell how secure it is how protected i will be if i use freebsd FreeBSD is free, and any updates are free. Third party appli

Re: freebsd

2009-08-19 Thread Neal Hogan
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:42 AM, BONGANI MANGANYE<205038...@cput.ac.za> wrote: > I know freebsd is free but i would like to know how much will I pay if I > need additional package like updates and other useful software,and can > you tell how secure it is how protected i will be if i use freebsd it

freebsd

2009-08-19 Thread BONGANI MANGANYE
I know freebsd is free but i would like to know how much will I pay if I need additional package like updates and other useful software,and can you tell how secure it is how protected i will be if i use freebsd Disclaimer This e

Re: duplex printing with OOo.

2009-08-19 Thread Bill Moran
Gary Kline wrote: > > Well, this one was/is bizarre. I finally got my Brother 5250 networked > printer to print duplex (AKA noth sides :) using > > % lpr file > > but from OpenOffice, no matter what I do, it only prints on one side. > Has > anybody runn ito this

Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!

2009-08-19 Thread Heiner Strauß
Am Mittwoch, den 19.08.2009, 07:59 + schrieb freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 01:45:27PM -0400, Karl Vogel wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:23:29 -0700, > > >> Walt Pawley said: > > > > W> As speculation on my part, perhaps the six character limitation

Re: Recovering files after a crash

2009-08-19 Thread Erik Norgaard
Roland Smith wrote: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 09:30:15AM +0200, Erik Norgaard wrote: The problem is that I have no idea which files were affected. So, now some questions: First, how do I determine which files were corrupted? And how do I recover these files? From what you have shown it is i

Re: [OT] Vim mailing list

2009-08-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
Steve Bertrand wrote: > Am I missing something about posting to newsgroups? My understanding is > ISP's don't utilize them anymore because of the ominous unavoidable > illegal behaviour. No -- it's not legal problems, which offer no worse consequences than for defamatory postings on blogs or foru

Re: Desktop Install Option

2009-08-19 Thread Glen Barber
Hi, On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Sabeeh Baig wrote: > So, I've been wondering about something.  FreeBSD is a general purpose > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used on > servers.  Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation, > something simi

Re: Desktop Install Option

2009-08-19 Thread Steve Bertrand
Sabeeh Baig wrote: > So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used on > servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation, > something similar to say Debian's option of "Standar

Re: Desktop Install Option

2009-08-19 Thread Peter Cornelius
Hi, > So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used > on > servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation, > something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard Desktop"?