Re: Startup from script
In my crontab I define script 'do_daily.run': 30 23 * * * root /root/cronjobs/do_daily.run The content of this script (amongst others) is: rsync -avpog /etc /backup/$DATE/ Funny thing now is that in the output of the script, the following appears: /root/cronjobs/do_daily.run: rsync: not found file credentials of the script itself: -rwx-- 1 root wheel 246 Jun 20 2010 do_daily.run What do I oversee here? add PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin in the beginning of your crontab your default $PATH is NOT cron default $PATH ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
openoffice doesn't work - any ideas?
[wojtek@wojtek ~/robod]$ openoffice-3.4.0 [Java framework] Error in function createSettingsDocument (elements.cxx).javaldx failed! terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeException' compiled fine, installed without problems jdk 1.6 too. any ideas? thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Optiplex 755 RAID 1 logical drive configuration ignored by FreeBSD 9.0-R installation
the system setup menu, the boot menu shows that freebsd90 is the first (and only) bootable hard drive. Yet when I try to install FreeBSD 9.0-R, FreeBSD ignores the hardware RAID and sees the two separate drives, instead of seeing a single logical drive. good lesson to NEVER use this pseudo-RAID interfaces and use gmirror instead. not only you can make more complex RAID setup, get higher performance from gmirror and be always able to access data independently of hardware RAID onboard which is just normal controller. Just don't use BIOS RAID ever. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Optiplex 755 RAID 1 logical drive configuration ignored by FreeBSD 9.0-R installation
FreeBSD will use a hardware RAID device -only- if the particular type of RAID chip/chipset/controller is known to the included device drivers. do not use hardware RAID for such things as this is nothing else than normal controller and BIOS/driver support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Optiplex 755 RAID 1 logical drive configuration ignored by FreeBSD 9.0-R installation
I used 'hardware RAID' because that is -precisely- how the OP described their equipment. unfortunately this is true - it is DESCRIBED as such. lie is standard tool in todays IT marketing. What are facts: - very few controllers actually have some RAID support. those usually have onboard RAM in substantial amount and preferably - battery backed. - unless you need RAID-5,6 or similar hardware cannot speed it up much. - gmirror/gstripe in FreeBSD is vastly superior to any RAID including true hardware ones - if configured properly. unless you treat single-process sequential read as measure of performance. even graid5 (from ports) is close to, or even outperform true hardware RAID, but CPU load is substantial. - RAID hardware does not allow any flexibility, like partitioning disks and using different RAID styles for parts. very useful. - with FreeBSD software RAID you will be able to access your data in every computer with SATA port. That's simple. And Dell does offer at least one such controller. Yes true. Actually all recently bought servers i have to manage are Dells (yes their 24-hour warranty replacement on place actually work!). And i always make sure no hardware RAID is present :), to get best performance. Actually i told Dell marketer i will be recommending hardware RAID solution for Dell when he prove it will actually outperform my software RAID10 setup with same amount of same disks. Still not proved ;) Of course you have to properly configure both hardware and software RAID. The cases where true hardware RAID may help is it's battery backup write-buffer that consume forced syncs (database commits etc) when they are common. still if it is an issue it means than database software is really badly designed if it have to sync constantly. But if there is no choice, today there are simple solutions like small-size SLC flash drive or battery backed ramdisk in extreme cases. Further, I, personally, have a fairly similar Compaq machine, which has hardware RAID, with it's own BIOS (including configuration/setup screens). what is the chip that you say it is hardware RAID? I dare to not believe you, but possibly you are right. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: openoffice doesn't work - any ideas?
the problem is that what i found is not this. all description i found is that deleting .openoffice* from $HOME fixes it. it doesn't. i even created new user with no leftover any config files and still same. On Sat, 19 May 2012, lokada...@gmx.de wrote: On 05/19/12 13:24, User Wojtek wrote: [wojtek@wojtek ~/robod]$ openoffice-3.4.0 [Java framework] Error in function createSettingsDocument (elements.cxx).javaldx failed! terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeException' compiled fine, installed without problems jdk 1.6 too. any ideas? thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Google find many things with javaldx failed. Is a problem with java, but different solutions (wrong xml, home permission, java- version ...). Hope you find a solution. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why do I feel like compact flash is more reliable than SSD ?
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 2:13 AM, UFS User ufs.u...@yahoo.com wrote: But everyone I know (including me) has had an SSD fail, usually with no explanation. So is this just chance, or ... are CF cards really a lot more reliable than SSD ? The following pages , and references in them , may be useful : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wear_leveling http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write_amplification http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Solid-state_computer_storage_media http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Solid-state_computer_storage No, these aren't useful at all, and further, the previous response that compared SSDs to spinning disks was also irrelevant. I am asking why compact flash cards (which are flash) seem to be much, much more reliable and durable than SSD (which is also flash). Why do I have CF parts running for 8+ years all over the place, but everyone I know has had SSDs fail (including me) ? There is no mention of spinning hard disks here, nor is this about *how* flash degrades in general - because in this case, they're both flash. Further, the failures I am seeing with SSDs are not because they wore out - they just quit. Comments ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Why do I feel like compact flash is more reliable than SSD ?
I have run a lot of different FreeBSD systems off (fileservers, firewalls, routers, etc.) off of compact flash cards[1] and have never had a CF part fail. Most of these were read-only mode, but some of them were left mounted 'rw' for years (with no swapping, of course). The bottom line is, they never failed, and some were (and are) in the field for over 8 years now. But everyone I know (including me) has had an SSD fail, usually with no explanation. So is this just chance, or ... are CF cards really a lot more reliable than SSD ? It's sloppy, but I never once considered mirroring my CF boot devices, and now in 2011 I am actually buying two *different* SSDs to put into a boot mirror because I am afraid of mirroring identical ones and they both die at identical times. Comments ? [1] Plain old store-bough Sandisk parts - so a good brand, but nothing special ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: harddrive encryption
no at installation if you use standard installer. as i don't use standard installer at all, i don't have such a problem. i use any bootable FreeBSD media (actualy my own made pendrive), and then make labels, do newfs, mount, unpack files etc. if you can't do that then you may follow my advice install as usual, but make partitions like a: root - 10-20GB b: swap - as you need d: rest - don't allow to directory install on a and b. then after booting your system, and building and installing your kernel with GEOM_ELI inside: geli init -s 2048 (or 4096 whatever fragment size you plan) /dev/ad0d (or ada0d or how is your disk named). geli attach /dev/ad0d newfs options here /dev/ad0d.eli mount /dev/ad0d.eli /mnt cd /mnt tar --exclude /usr -cf - /|tar xpf - so you have copied all data except /usr to /mnt then edit /mnt/etc/fstab make ad0d.eli as root and ad0a as /usr then edit /mnt/boot/loader.conf add vfs.root.mountfrom=ad0d.eli then reboot to single user mode after booting /sbin/mount /usr - should mount fine cd /usr ls and delete with rm -rf everything except usr subdirectory then mv usr/* . rm -rf usr cd / rm -rf boot ln -s /usr/boot . then press CTRL-D and you have your encrypted system up. You don't have /usr encrypted as your software packages are not secred data. /usr is a: partition so bootloader boots from here. /usr/boot is linked to /boot to make it accessible for system programs as usual. but your /usr/local/etc may be secred so cd /usr/local mv etc /etc/local ln -s /etc/local etc this is how i configure my system everywhere i use geli. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Lenovo G550
anyone knows how to: - make it's touchpad usable? without any special software and used as mouse emulator it is very bad. The problem is that it quite often produces false clicks when you type on keyboard. Tried xf86-input-synaptics but it doesn't recognize the device (protocol psm, device psm0, turned off moused to aboid conflicts) - make wireless network work. For me it's low priority now, i mostly don't use wifi, but it may be needed. Tried bwi and bwn with every firmware and doesn't work. none1@pci0:4:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x04b514e4 chip=0x431514e4 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' device = 'Broadcom Wireless b/g (BCM4315/BCM22062000)' class = network Everything else works fine, including powerd and it's great laptop. Works 4.5 hour without power when lightly loaded. - lowest priority - what software can make any use of buildin camera. ugen7.2: Lenovo EasyCamera SuYin at usbus7, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 7 and 2 monitors
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, M. Vale wrote: Hi, I have 2 monitors (20 Asus) with a Radeon X1600/X1650 PRO configure with xrand and everything works ok. The resolution I'm using right now is 3360x1050. Now I've a brand new Asus 24 (MK241H), and I can use this monitor with the other asus. My configuration now is 1 monitor 24 Asus and another one 20, but xrand cant use this to make one desktop :( Please post specifics. Do you have any solutions or recomendations in how to put this 2 monitors working. Use xorg.conf instead of xrandr? one monitor max resolution is 1920 x 1200 (24) and the other Asus 1680 x 1050 (20). I have a 1920x1200 and 1024x768 dual monitors with an X1650 right here. Here's the xorg.conf: Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 Option Blank Time 0 Option Standby Time 0 Option Suspend Time 0 Option Off Time 0 EndSection Section Files ModulePath /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/ EndSection Section DRI Group 0 Mode 0660 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName HWP ModelName2615 Option PreferredMode 1920x1200 Option Position 1024 0 Option DPMS EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor1 VendorName PHL ModelNamePhilips 150B3 Option PreferredMode 1024x768 Option Position 0 0 EndSection Section Device ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False, ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz ### [arg]: arg optional #Option NoAccel # [bool] #Option SWcursor# [bool] #Option Dac6Bit # [bool] #Option Dac8Bit # [bool] #Option BusType # [str] #Option CPPIOMode # [bool] #Option CPusecTimeout # i #Option AGPMode # i #Option AGPFastWrite# [bool] #Option AGPSize # i #Option GARTSize# i #Option RingSize# i #Option BufferSize # i #Option EnableDepthMoves# [bool] #Option EnablePageFlip # [bool] #Option NoBackBuffer# [bool] #Option DMAForXv# [bool] #Option FBTexPercent# i #Option DepthBits # i #Option PCIAPERSize # i #Option AccelDFS# [bool] #Option DDCMode # [bool] #Option IgnoreEDID # [bool] #Option DisplayPriority # [str] #Option PanelSize # [str] #Option ForceMinDotClock# freq #Option ColorTiling # [bool] #Option VideoKey# i #Option RageTheatreCrystal # i #Option RageTheatreTunerPort# i #Option RageTheatreCompositePort# i #Option RageTheatreSVideoPort # i #Option TunerType # i #Option RageTheatreMicrocPath # str #Option RageTheatreMicrocType # str #Option ScalerWidth # i #Option RenderAccel # [bool] #Option SubPixelOrder # [str] #Option ShowCache # [bool] #Option DynamicClocks # [bool] #Option VGAAccess # [bool] #Option ReverseDDC # [bool] #Option LVDSProbePLL# [bool] #Option AccelMethod # str #Option DRI # [bool] #Option ConnectorTable # str #Option DefaultConnectorTable # [bool] #Option DefaultTMDSPLL # [bool] #Option TVDACLoadDetect # [bool] #Option ForceTVOut # [bool] #Option TVStandard # str #Option IgnoreLidStatus # [bool] #Option DefaultTVDACAdj # [bool] #Option Int10 # [bool] Identifier Card0 Driver radeon VendorName ATI Technologies Inc BoardName Radeon X1650 Pro
Re: Software installasion (Was: Re: Wine without X)
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Barnaby Scott wrote: Thanks for all the ideas about where to download/install custom apps - the one that appeals most at this stage is a jail, partly because I have never played with them, and I think I should progress my learning in that direction. However I find the other answers very useful insights too. Given that winetricks calls itself a 'quick and dirty script', along with the fact that the current wine port doesn't work, Today's updated wine-1.1.18,1 port works now. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD
Em Ter, 2008-10-28 às 07:41 -0700, Dánielisz László escreveu: Hello! I also had some fight with Adobe's Flash player, but unfortunately without success. I remaing curios about any solution. Laci Me too, I am using a market aproach, that is: I intend to persuade a notebook producer, to sell the machines with FreeBSD 7.x or FreeBSD 8.x about 3000 machines/month... and without the flash10 working. May be in a month they will start shipping... core 2, 2Gb memory, 250Gb disk, 12 display 1280x800, wireless, camera. for about US$800 As I show them the numbers (about 40k machines/year...) I hope they will make a FreeBSD port... I count on people from FreeBSD list to show the numbers to adobe Sergio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libncurses.so.6
Hello... I have some time ago an issue with libncurses and openssl... I resolved things using the libncures (/usr/lib/libncurses.so) and ssl (/usr/lib/libssl.so) from the system, and I have never had problems since then. solution: I remove the package ncurses and openssl. and use the libraries from the system and have never had problems since. for those packages that insist in ncurses.so.6 and ssl I fixed it in /etc/libmap.conf libncurses.so.6 libncurses.so Hope this helps ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to eject an USB disk on FreeBSD
Em Qui, 2008-08-28 às 13:56 +0700, Olivier Nicole escreveu: Hello, Is there a command in FreeBSD that ejects a USB disk like in Windows? I mount the USB disk with automount daemone (amd). You have to umnount it using the umount command usually umount /mountpount does the tick if you are using a graphical interface... (I use gnome...) install the disk monitor (application inside the panel) right click the mouse on the panel and choose insert or go to the storage icon and right click or go to any nautilus screen and right click I assume you are using gnome 2.22, 2,20 the system even pops a screen saying that the umass drive can be removed. Sergio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MTA advice ??
I am very happy with: Sendmail (the one that comes with Freebsd...) and messagewall (in the ports). if you need, I can send you the 3 config files... that make it all happen. with this software you can: 1) receive email directly to your computer (provided that port 25 is open). 2) filter 99.8 % 0f the spam 3) provides smtp relay (authenticated) 4) virtual hosts, aliases, domains fully integrated with nameserver (in the same machine) 5) send email to anybody in internet (you must use static ip). It has been working for 20 years Sergio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MTA...
Em Dom, 2008-08-24 às 14:06 -0400, pete escreveu: I have a hosted domain that recently changed their mail filtering. I am not happy with the new setup and am considering setting up my own. Looking for tips on setting up something on my freeBSD 6.1 box. My ISP is cablevision IO. Not sure what they allow, ie: whether I can have my hosted domain set to use my cable IP as a MTA, or if I have to do some kind of end run around cablevision to get a MTA set up locally. Also looking for advice on which software would serve me bet in this instance. TIA In my country, the cable company sells fixed IP for about US$60/mon. and it filters nothing, that is: the port 25 is left open. You only need so, to ask the one that holds your DNS, to put a record MX in the definition MX10mx1.your.domain and. A.B.C.DAmx1.your.domain. so when someone pings mx1.your.domain it answers A.B.C.D after you must set up your sendmail by creating a sendmail.mc in /etc/mail =/etc/mail/sendmail.mc == divert(0) VERSIONID(`$FreeBSD: src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc,v 1.34.2.1 2007/11/22 16:19:40 gshapiro Exp $') OSTYPE(freebsd6) DOMAIN(generic) FEATURE(access_db, `hash -o -TTMPF /etc/mail/access') FEATURE(blacklist_recipients) FEATURE(local_lmtp) FEATURE(mailertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/mailertable') FEATURE(virtusertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable') define(`confCW_FILE', `-o /etc/mail/sendmail.cw') define(`confMAX_DAEMON_CHILDREN', `20') DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=IPv4, Family=inet) define(`confBIND_OPTS', `WorkAroundBroken') define(`confNO_RCPT_ACTION', `add-to-undisclosed') define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS', `authwarnings,noexpn,novrfy') MAILER(local) MAILER(smtp) =/etc/mail/sendmail.cw== your.domain.com == than add a line in the /etc/make.conf SENDMAIL_SUBMIT_MC=/etc/mail/sendmail.mc go to the /etc/mail touch aliases mailertable virtusertable access make === change /etc/rc.conf to include lines sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO sendmail_enable=YES = reinitialise sendmail with the command: /etc/rc.d/sendmail restart DONE== ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
freebsd-update metadata signature fails
What am i missing or doing incorrectly? Thanks, Jerry nutmeg# freebsd-update fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 1 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 6.3-RELEASE from update1.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. No updates needed to update system to 6.3-RELEASE-p3. nutmeg# freebsd-update --debug -r 6.3-RELEASE-p3 upgrade Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 1 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 6.3-RELEASE from update1.FreeBSD.org... latest.ssl100% of 512 B 405 kBps done. Fetching metadata index... 2cb1c0210ae431e5b296ddf428decc9fc27d154eb196ce100% of 225 B 176 kBps done. Inspecting system... done. The following components of FreeBSD seem to be installed: kernel/generic kernel/smp src/base src/bin src/contrib src/crypto src/etc src/games src/gnu src/include src/krb5 src/lib src/libexec src/release src/rescue src/sbin src/secure src/share src/sys src/tools src/ubin src/usbin world/base world/catpages world/dict world/doc world/games world/info world/manpages world/proflibs The following components of FreeBSD do not seem to be installed: Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y Fetching metadata signature for 6.3-RELEASE-p3 from update1.FreeBSD.org... fetch: http://update1.FreeBSD.org/6.3-RELEASE-p3/i386/latest.ssl: Not Found failed. No mirrors remaining, giving up. nutmeg# ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Re: SCSI network
May I ask how that works? Everything I've read about scsi is that the throughput determines the standard: so 320MB has a throughput of ~320MB. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scsi) there is a bit (exactly 8 times) difference between megabit and megabyte ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EVOLUTION SLOW START , a workaround
I'm trying to use your patch but it fails to apply patch.
It results in:
ecerejo# patch -uspl /usr/home/webdude/patch.b
File to patch: patch-gmodule::gmodule-dl.c
4 out of 4 hunks failed--saving rejects to patch-gmodule::gmodule-dl.c.rej
OK, probably, it is because you did not put the module (the patch in the
correct place)
the patch I publish on the email is to replace the glib patch that is
located in:
/usr/ports/devel/glib20/files/patch-gmodule::gmodule-dl.c
the idea is:
you copy the code from the email, and replace the file in the
/usr/ports/devel/glib20/files/patch-gmodule::gmodule-dl.c
and then just build glib20 again. either by the comand
(cd /usr/ports/devel/glib20;make clean deinstall install) or
portupgrade -fp devel/glib20
should work
There is no need to rebuild evolution.
the patch works with glib versions 2
tested on glib2.12 till 2.16 (the last one).
cut===
--- gmodule/gmodule-dl.c.orig 2008-02-07 03:24:53.0 -0200
+++ gmodule/gmodule-dl.c 2008-03-11 18:53:44.0 -0300
@@ -73,6 +73,14 @@
#endif /* RTLD_GLOBAL */
+static char *special_names[]={
+ g_module_check_init,
+ g_module_unload,
+ e_plugin_lib_enable,
+ NULL
+};
+
+
/* --- functions --- */
static gchar*
fetch_dlerror (gboolean replace_null)
@@ -106,6 +114,7 @@
static gpointer
_g_module_self (void)
{
+#ifndef __FreeBSD__
gpointer handle;
/* to query symbols from the program itself, special link options
@@ -117,6 +126,9 @@
g_module_set_error (fetch_dlerror (TRUE));
return handle;
+#else
+ return RTLD_DEFAULT;
+#endif
}
static void
@@ -141,9 +153,19 @@
{
gpointer p;
gchar *msg;
+ char **pn;
fetch_dlerror (FALSE);
- p = dlsym (handle, symbol_name);
+
+ for (pn=special_names;*pn;pn++) {
+ if (!strcmp(*pn,symbol_name)) {
+ p=dlsym(RTLD_NEXT,symbol_name);
+ break;
+ }
+ }
+
+ if (! *pn)
+ p = dlsym (handle, symbol_name);
msg = fetch_dlerror (FALSE);
if (msg)
g_module_set_error (msg);
===cut==
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Configuring a HP Laserjet 1018 USB printer on KDE
First am new using freebsd and would like help getting the printer configured. After installing and staarting CUPS. When I go to SETTINGS Peripherals printers I get: Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from manager: Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: localhost: read failed (14). If I use LPR/LPRng things seem to be going well until I get to the screen asking for URI: I have no clue as to what it is asking for. HELP Bob Falanga ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random driver for insanely old hardware
On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 09:07:14PM -0700, Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 11 Feb 2008, User Ota wrote: I have a question, just out of totally pure curiosity about one particular piece of hardware. Today I was browsin around Value Village (big giant thrift department store in Canada) here in Sudbury, and I came across A GCC Technologies UltraDrive 50R, SCSI based and external -- from 1990. Now here's the maybe not so wierd part: only 1 out of like 4 hits on Google showed up as the UltraDrive 50R 50 Meg Removable Hard Drive, using Ricoh optical removable hard drives. I'm a fan of finding old computer stuff, and running legacy machines just to see what it was like and just for fun. Anyways, my question is: I cannot find ANYTHING whatsoever on the internet about this product. Out of pure curiosity, was there ever a driver available for FreeBSD; or, if you can comment, linux kernel? I just really wanna know. :P GCC is still around as http://gccprinters.com/. There's very little in their support base about the Ultradrive, but they may have more information by email. Other than finding cartridges, the question is going to be whether the drive can handle writing all on its own, or whether it needs an external driver. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From what I read, there's little nothing about GCC left except in the printer business, like they were never around at all. Goes to show you how far technology has advanced in nearly 20 years and how the market is rapidly changing on a day-to-day basis. I gave it some power, and it seems to power up okay (I have no idea what 'okay' really is -- im just guessing by the fact that the power lights come on.) Russell Doucette ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Random driver for insanely old hardware
I have a question, just out of totally pure curiosity about one particular piece of hardware. Today I was browsin around Value Village (big giant thrift department store in Canada) here in Sudbury, and I came across A GCC Technologies UltraDrive 50R, SCSI based and external -- from 1990. Now here's the maybe not so wierd part: only 1 out of like 4 hits on Google showed up as the UltraDrive 50R 50 Meg Removable Hard Drive, using Ricoh optical removable hard drives. I'm a fan of finding old computer stuff, and running legacy machines just to see what it was like and just for fun. Anyways, my question is: I cannot find ANYTHING whatsoever on the internet about this product. Out of pure curiosity, was there ever a driver available for FreeBSD; or, if you can comment, linux kernel? I just really wanna know. :P Russell Doucette ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random driver for insanely old hardware
On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 09:10:13PM -0500, Robert Huff wrote: User Ota writes: Today I was browsin around Value Village (big giant thrift department store in Canada) here in Sudbury, and I came across A GCC Technologies UltraDrive 50R, SCSI based and external -- from 1990. Anyways, my question is: I cannot find ANYTHING whatsoever on the internet about this product. Out of pure curiosity, was there ever a driver available for FreeBSD; or, if you can comment, linux kernel? I just really wanna know. :P If it's really and truly SCSI, then it Should Just Work like any other SCSI hardware. Robert Huff I have a 486 lying around somewhere, an old AHA-154x SCSI controller, I just need the external cable to attach it. I would lol hard if it worked, and probably then go on to use it like everything else. I was thinking that originally about it working like everything else, but I wonder how hard it is to find a cartridge for the machine :P Btw I bought it for $2.00 CAD. Russell Doucette ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 7.0 RC2
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 08:13:27PM -0600, Chris wrote: I see that the ISO is there! Not updated on the site yet! :P Wonder what's new in this RC release, gonna test it in vmware and maybe qemu :D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Three wishes of a wannabe developer
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 09:12:40PM -0700, cpghost wrote: On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 11:01:53AM -0500, John Almberg wrote: I'd suggest looking into a real object oriented language, rather than a systems programming language like C, or a glue language like Perl. I personally think Smalltalk is a great language for beginners, particularly the Squeak version, which is available for free for most platforms. Yummy, it's a long time since I've used Smalltalk. It's still fun today, even though more from an academic point of view than real life programming. It certainly was different, compared to Common Lisp I've heavily used to hack in back then, and I kind of regret that both Smalltalk and Lisp have fallen out of favor nowadays for real projects. Once you get the basic idea behind objects, you might want to branch out into Ruby, another great object oriented language. All the concept you learned from Smalltalk will carry right over, and since many Ruby folk are coming from the procedural world (and really don't get objects), you will have a leg up on them. And Ruby will set you up for using Rails, which is an ideal platform for deploying web applications, which will allow you to make your economic simulations available to anyone on the net. Personally, I do prefer Python and I write hybrid Python/C and Python/C++ projects for a living (using SWIG and to a lesser extent Boost.Python or its frontends). For web development, which I can't avoid entirely, though I'd wish I could, I'm using Django, or some other custom mix of Python building blocks. In some rare cases, it has to be Zope-based, but this I do really positively hate! ;) Ruby and Rails are also good places to start and excellent object oriented languages. Whether you go the Python or Ruby route is really a matter of taste: both routes do have interesting things to show and are definitely worth a try (or two). Just my two cents. Brgds: John This might be off topic a bit, but personally once you wrap your head around objects and topics like polymorphism, basically you should be able to master any object-oriented language -- be it Perl or C++ or Java. If you've done C++ before, one idea you can try for an object oriented language is C#. I found C# really easy to use, being managed code and all; and the beauty of it is with the miracle of Mono you don't need to be in Windows to use it (or you can, without the use of Visual C#). I found it a great starting point, and because of C# I extended my knowledge with OOP languages and began using Perl, among other things, to do things I wouldn't normally consider with something like VB or doing C/C++. Russell Doucette. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 7.0 installation problem
not be recoverable. GEOM: ad20: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. GEOM: ad20: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad12s1a On 1/30/08, Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:53:14AM -0500, FreeBSD User wrote: [...] Problem 2: I cannot get X started. I get the following errors: Failed to load module nv (module does not exist, 0) Failed to load module mouse (module does not exist, 0) Failed to load module kbd (module does not exist, 0) Make sure you install X by using the meta-port x11/xorg. You'll miss stuff out if you install by hand. -- Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- One, with God, is always a majority, but many a martyr has been burned at the stake while the votes were being counted. -- Thomas B. Reed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
7.0 installation problem
Hello, I have tried installing FreeBSD 7.0-Current for amd64, and I am having problems with my mouse and video card. My hardware is as follows: Gigabyte p35-ds3r motherboard Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4GHz (Q6600) NVidia 8400GS Microsoft Comfort Optical 3000 mouse Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 Problem 1: The mouse is not working at all. When I look at the output of dmesg, I see the mouse (ums0), however no movement. I have gone into sysinstall and tried every available option under mouse configuration, but I can't get it to work. Problem 2: I cannot get X started. I get the following errors: Failed to load module nv (module does not exist, 0) Failed to load module mouse (module does not exist, 0) Failed to load module kbd (module does not exist, 0) No drivers available Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When is 7.0 being released?
Hello, Does anybody have an idea when 7.0 will be released? It looks like the schedule hasn't been updated, and it was scheduled for January 14th. Where can I find additional information? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
make buildworld fails. Whats wrong?
I have updated a /usr/src from cvs-repositary. But buildworld fails with error code 1 in /usr/src/lib/ libcomm_err/doc. com_err.info - not found. whats wrong? PS. I have installed a FreeBSD-7.0 - BETA4. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freenx server
On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 10:41:59AM -0600, Jack Barnett wrote: Anyone get the freeNX server working from nomachine? When I try to build it from /usr/ports/net/freenx it says it is broken under xorg 7.2 I've upgrade to xorg 7.3.x and modified the make file and it builds everything but nxagent, so it fails to `make install` install: /usr/ports/net/nxserver/work/nx-X11/programs/Xserver/nxagent: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Yeah, I tried messing around with this a few months ago, it tried to compile and at the end (which was a lengthy job) it turned out to be a waste. I was told before to get in touch with the maintainer of the port and discuss it further. Funny though, mine failed on nxnode :P From portsmon.freebsd,org, the mantainer of freenx and nxserver is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope this helps, Russell Doucette ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xclients and remote display (WAS: Re: freenx server)
On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 03:40:48AM -0600, Jack Barnett wrote: Thanks, yea, but I don't think he's maintaining it any longer? In ports it's version 1.4.x, but nomachine.com has latest version has 3.5.x My friend emailed nomachine.com and he said they refused to support any of the xBSD or offer any help on getting a working port for the xBSD world. I'm guessing that is the reason why it's so out of date and broken. :/ Are their any alternatives besides VNC? We have that and it's working good (TightVNC tunneled though SSH), but would like to just run one 'window' and have it displayed on our workstation. For example, Run an xterm on FreeBSD server and have it displayed on an XP or Linux workstation. Not really, all I know of is FreeNX and VNC. As for their refusal, is it out of pure ignorance that they don't wish to support BSD? I thought they had at one time supported FreeBSD (the assumption is based on the fact that it exists in the ports tree). Too bad, though. I tested FreeNX on a debian install (unfortunately) and the client ran smooth on my windows machine, with the unfortunate exception that it has 0 dual-monitor support in fullscreen mode. I found this though: http://www.deweyonline.com/nx/freebsd.html Highly betting that the maintainer's page for this (if that is the maintainer) that first section looks promising. The link works to download the 6.2-RELEASE version. It's possible that might work with X.Org versions later than 7.1; I haven't personally tested it myself. Btw, which FreeBSD release are you running? Russell Doucette ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvsup not getting 'everything' with standard-supfile?
On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 03:43:21PM -0700, Steve Franks wrote: I see folks talking about building snd_hda on 6.2, but when I cvsup, /usr/src/sys/modules/sound/driver/hda doesn't exist. I'm using an unmodified (except for the url) standard-supfile, which has src-all in big letters uncommented at the top, so I find the lack of anything a bit surprising - any ideas? Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's odd, I usually get everything in one go (I usually just copy the example files from /usr/share/examples/cvsup - ports-supfile and stable-supfile), chnage the mirror where it gets the source from, and csup it. Is it possible the site you cvsup from doesn't have all the code (not synchronized properly) or that there's some screwup setting on your standard supfile? I'm just throwing ideas out into the wind, but those two possibilies stike me as a possible reason at the time of this writing. Russell Doucette ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: common filesystem for Linux and FreeBSD
On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 03:17:00AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 11:06:15AM +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: I generally shy away from any multiboot situation since I have few machines with me. Even then I too have to multiboot once in a while. I prefer to avoid multiboot as well, but for a while there it seemed unlikely that I'd be able to do everything on this system that I want to be able to do if all I have is FreeBSD. I've managed to realize that my impression of limitation was, in fact, a failure on my part -- and not on FreeBSD's -- some hours ago, however. As a result, it looks like I'll be able to solve the problem without installing some Linux distro after all. If FFS2 and EXT3 are ruled out, then what is remaining? ;) XFS? Maybe? My impression is that there isn't good UFS support in Linux, and that stable ext3 support is read-only in FreeBSD. If that's the case, then it really does seem to come down to a matter of figuring out whether XFS, JFS, or ReiserFS (to throw out a few examples) have stable read/write support in both Linux and FreeBSD systems. It is a tough choice indeed. Of course you could do a diskless boot off an NFS and use that as file system for communication between the two OSes. But for that you need another machine connected over LAN running NFS of course. Yeah . . . this is a laptop, and I use it while traveling, so that wouldn't really suit my needs in this case. I appreciate the attempt, though. Anyway, as you may have gathered from an above paragraph of mine, it looks like I'm probably not going to need the Linux system after all. Sorry if my answer was irrelevant but this is the best I could do. It would be pretty harsh of me to say your best wasn't good enough. Thanks for the effort to help. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Baltasar Gracian: A wise man gets more from his enemies than a fool from his friends. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you feel like being adventerous, FAT/FAT32 :P Russell Doucette ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
msttf?
Is /usr/ports/chinese/msttf the right port of microsofts truetype fonts? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Build transmission with gtk+ support
Hello, anyone sucsessfully installed transmission with gtk+ support from ports? [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission]# make install clean You may specify the following on the command line: WITHOUT_OPENSSL=yes to disable OpenSSL support, using built-in SHA1 implementation. Warning, it is a bit slower if you use this option. === Vulnerability check disabled, database not found === Extracting for transmission-0.82 = MD5 Checksum OK for Transmission-0.82.tar.gz. = SHA256 Checksum OK for Transmission-0.82.tar.gz. === Patching for transmission-0.82 === Applying FreeBSD patches for transmission-0.82 === transmission-0.82 depends on executable: gmake - found === Configuring for transmission-0.82 System: FreeBSD OpenSSL: yes GTK+:yes Daemon: disabled Now use GNU make to build Transmission. It may be called 'make' or 'gmake' depending on your system. === Building for transmission-0.82 Checking SVN revision... * Building libtransmission Checking dependencies... Cc basename.o Cc bencode.o Cc choking.o Cc clients.o Cc completion.o Cc dirname.o Cc fastresume.o Cc fdlimit.o Cc http.o Cc inout.o Cc ipcparse.o ipcparse.c: In function `ipc_mkgetinfo': ipcparse.c:494: warning: 'typecount' might be used uninitialized in this function ipcparse.c:495: warning: 'typearray' might be used uninitialized in this function ipcparse.c: In function `ipc_infoname': ipcparse.c:1243: warning: 'array' might be used uninitialized in this function ipcparse.c:1244: warning: 'len' might be used uninitialized in this function ipcparse.c: In function `ipc_infotypes': ipcparse.c:1181: warning: 'tree' might be used uninitialized in this function ipcparse.c:1183: warning: 'array' might be used uninitialized in this function ipcparse.c:1184: warning: 'len' might be used uninitialized in this function Cc list.o Cc makemeta.o Cc metainfo.o Cc natpmp.o Cc net.o Cc peer.o Cc platform.o Cc ratecontrol.o Cc sha1.o Cc shared.o Cc strlcat.o Cc strlcpy.o Cc torrent.o Cc tracker.o Cc transmission.o Cc upnp.o Cc utils.o Cc xml.o Library libtransmission.a ar: creating libtransmission.a * Building Transmission CLI client Checking dependencies... Cc transmissioncli.o Link transmissioncli * Building Transmission GTK+ client gmake: *** gtk: No such file or directory. Stop. gmake[1]: *** [.gtk] Error 2 gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission. Only thing I've done to the Makefile is to enable gtk+ on compile options. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ugly fonts in epiphany
Sorry if come with a lot of newbie questions to this mailing list, fonts in epiphany doesn't use xft, what port miss xft support, anyone know? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
named-bind-9
HI I am having problems with my zone file... There used to be a command to run and check zone files/Named files.. I can't seem to locate it...?? Anyone have a clue?? TIA User Iam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
zone
Hi Where are the zone files located?? TIA me ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
4gb address space limitation for i386
I have an IBM xSeries 350 4xPIII with 5.5gb of RAM, and see that only about 3.5gb is being used under the i386 port. I've been looking through the archives to try and figure out what the root of the problem is and I amn't quite sure I know which part of the situation is the real problem. Is it a limitation of the i386 port? That is to say, if there were a specific PIII (i686?) port, would this problem be overcome? Or is it a hardware limitation? Is it necessary to use a not-clean method to access the extra address space (is this what PAE is?), and there's no clean way around it, regardless of the port? I was looking at building a PAE kernel, but was discouraged by the lack of usb and certain SCSI support, both of which I'd really like to have (in the case of SCSI, need to have). Is this lack of support because of an inherent difficulty in the hardware, or could it be overcome in a stable way with modification of the device driver code? My basic (and very hypothetical) question - if I had unlimited time and knowledge (I have limited both), what direction would I take to get access to all 5.5gb of RAM on this particular computer? Thank you, Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
portupgrade 'upgrades' ports that are not installed
Hi First of all i just went through the UPDATING instructions to upgrade my xorg to 7.2. It did not go very well because i can't finish the upgrade process. When i try to pkg_delete xorg-manpages it says they're required by the xorg-6.9 port. Now as far as i can see everything i'm running is in /usr/local and X -version says 7.2 everywhere. But there are still some 6.9 ports left and i can't tell the difference between which ones i can delete and which ones i'm supposed to keep. # pkg_info | grep xorg xorg-6.9.0 X.Org distribution metaport xorg-apps-7.2 X.org apps meta-port xorg-cf-files-1.0.2_2 X.org cf files for use with imake builds xorg-clients-6.9.0_2 X client programs and related files from X.Org xorg-docs-1.3,1 X.org documentation files xorg-documents-6.9.0 Documentation of X11 protocol and libraries from X.Org xorg-drivers-7.2X.org drivers meta-port xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.9.0_1 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-7.2 X.org fonts meta-port xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.9.0_1 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.9.0_1 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.9.0_1 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-truetype-6.9.0 X.Org TrueType fonts xorg-fonts-type1-6.9.0 X.Org Type1 fonts xorg-fontserver-6.9.0_1 X font server from X.Org xorg-libraries-7.2_2 X.org libraries meta-port xorg-manpages-6.9.0 X.Org library manual pages xorg-nestserver-6.9.0 Nesting X server from X.Org xorg-printserver-6.9.0 X Print server from X.Org xorg-protos-7.2 X.org protos meta-port xorg-server-1.2.0_2,1 X.Org X server and related programs xorg-server-6.9.0_1 X.Org X server and related programs xorg-vfbserver-6.9.0 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org This is what it looks like after the upgrade. Also i'm not sure where to go for help with portupgrade but here seems like a good place to start. Now after i've run portupgrade -aP for the first time i tried to run it again just to see what it missed because i can't say the process progressed without errors, there were tons of them. Though this time i starts with a port i don't even have installed, gutenprint-base. It does not exist in /var/db/pkg, pkg_info doesn't find it and i can't make deinstall in the ports metadir because it's not installed. Yet portupgrade insists on 'upgrading' it by installing it for me. I'm thinking maybe it's a dependency of some newly upgraded port but i don't know how to make portupgrade show me that information. --- Med vänliga hälsningar Stefan Midjich (nocturnal) ~ http://swehack.se ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HP 2605 printer and FreeBSD.
Hello to all, I would have to buy one color laser printer. Watching those that are usable under Unix/Linux (LinuxPrinting.org) and that they are expensive, I see what the printer 2605 of HP it works perfectly unless for some small problem. Someone has installed it and it knows to me to say if effectively it is therefore.. Thanks. -- Isaia Luciano FreeBSD user ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
openvpn on freebsd problem
Hello list: I install openvpn from port. Follow openvpn.net howto, vpn can connect from client to server, but on client side, I cann't ping server side other machines. On my server side, vpn server and gateway is same one box, I use dev tun, the server has a public static ip address, install nat,ipfw for internal net to Internet. In refer to howto, Make sure that you've enabled IP and TUN/TAP forwarding on the OpenVPN server machine. I know IP forwarding is work fine, but how to enable TUN forwarding? Thanks. pei ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Belkin omiview KVM
Hi I have a Belkin omniview KVM I lost my manual. Can't find the manual on the website.. I know scroll_lockscrool_lock up/down will move me around.. Google wasn't helping me Or I missed it somehow.. I need to change the legends on the channels.. TIA User Iam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Half-Duplex
HI How do I force my nic card to half-duplex.. I have read the man page and it is probably there and I just didn't recognize it... TIA User Iam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
7 install
Hi I am doing a fresh install of 7.0 When I get the part when it asks for install media. I select cd/dvd disk And It claims it can't find it??? This is the disk I booted off TIA User Iam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Suggestions for an antispam.
Hi, I would want a suggestion for an antispam for my email. I use getmail-procmail-mutt in order to receive the mail. Thanks. -- Isaia Luciano FreeBSD user ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I need help with external USB DVD writer.
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 11:56:20AM +0100, Mike wrote: What does usbdevs -v show? Your drive probably isn't MMC-capable. Try updating the firmware. For a Samsung go here: http://www.samsungoms-europe.com/samsung.php?section=download and get the firmware updating tool (it's called LiveUpdate or something). It only works in Windows, so hope that isn't a problem. If there's a firmware upgrade for your drive, it might fix this error and allow the FreeBSD dvd-tools to read your burner's configuration. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi. I try to upgrade the firmware (on Windows) but the problem remains. usbdevs -v show: Controller /dev/usb0: addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x), VIA(0x), rev 1.00 port 1 powered port 2 powered Controller /dev/usb1: addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x), VIA(0x), rev 1.00 port 1 powered port 2 powered Controller /dev/usb2: addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, OHCI root hub(0x), NEC(0x), rev 1.00 port 1 powered port 2 powered port 3 powered Controller /dev/usb3: addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, OHCI root hub(0x), NEC(0x), rev 1.00 port 1 powered port 2 powered Controller /dev/usb4: addr 1: high speed, self powered, config 1, EHCI root hub(0x), NEC(0x), rev 1.00 port 1 powered port 2 powered port 3 powered port 4 addr 2: high speed, power 500 mA, config 1, CanoScan(0x221c), Canon(0x04a9), rev 3.06 port 5 addr 3: high speed, self powered, config 1, USB Mass Storage Device(0x0840), TSST corp(0x0409), rev 0.00 Thanks for your help. -- Isaia Luciano FreeBSD user ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I need help with external USB DVD writer.
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 03:34:40PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: umass.c patch (6.2-RELEASE): everything works. i think umass driver is simply too restrictive ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi. How to apply this patch on FreeBSD 6.1? I must recompile the kernel? Thank for your help. -- Isaia Luciano FreeBSD user ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I need help with external USB DVD writer.
Hi. I have bought recently an external USB DVD writer Samsung Super (model SE-S184M/EUBN). I do not succeed in to burn DVD (only CD). The system (FreeBSD 6,1) recognizes masterizzatore like: umass0: TSST corp USB Mass Storage Device, rev 2.00/0.00, addr 3 cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182M SB02 device Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 cd0: 40.000MB/s transfers cd0: Device Attempt to query size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray close If I use the comand whith a dvd+rw : dvd+rw- format /dev/cd0 I obtain * DVD±RW/-RAM format utility by [EMAIL PROTECTED] chalmers.se, version 6.0. :-( (unable to GET CONFIGURATION: Input/output error and on the consul: umass0: Unsupported ATAPI command 0x46. With another external drive LG this is OK. I don't know that what happens. Some suggestions? Thanks. -- Isaia Luciano FreeBSD user ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Samsung DVD writer.
Hello to all. I have bought recently an external USB DVD writer Samsung Super (model SE-S184M/EUBN) I do not succeed in to burn DVD (only CD). The system (FreeBSD 6,1) recognizes masterizzatore like: umass0: TSST corp USB Mass Storage Device, rev 2.00/0.00, addr 3 cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182M SB02 device Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 cd0: 40.000MB/s transfers cd0: Device Attempt to query size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray close If I use the comand: dvd+rw- format /dev/cd0 I obtain * DVD±RW/-RAM format utility by [EMAIL PROTECTED] chalmers.se, version 6.0. :-( (unable to GET CONFIGURATION: Input/output error and on the consul: umass0: Unsupported ATAPI command 0x46. Some idea? Thanks. -- Isaia Luciano FreeBSD user ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Toshiba Satellite Pro 4300 and FreeBSD 5.5
I tried installing FreeBSD 5.5 from the subscription CD on a Toshiba Satellite Pro 4300. I previously had FreeBSD 4.1 on this machine. All options in the boot menu hang at the same place (the last two are N/A in this case). I tried setting hint.acpi.0.disabled=1 and boot -v -c. Hangs. I tried loading the atapci_toshiba.ko module - same result. The last messages are: ata0:... ata0-master: stat=0x50 err=0x01 lsb=0x00 msb=0x00 ata0-slave: stat=0x00 err=0x01 lsb=0x00 msb=0x00 ata0: reset tp2 stat0=50 stat1=50 devices=0x1ATA_MASTER ata0: [MPSAFE] ata1: channel 1 on atapci0 atapci0: Reserved 0x8 bytes for rid type 4 at 0x170 atapci0: Reserved 0x1 bytes for rid type 4 at 0x376 -- hang forever or 10 minutes, whichever is longer. I remember reading something about the Satellite Pro models, but can't find it. Can anyone provide some information/guidance? tomdean ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats Project v1.0
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, Garrett Cooper wrote: I know I may be overachieving a bit in my overall thoughts of this plan, but why not do something similar for the rest of the BSDs and/or Linux/Solaris? I find this a good statistical tool for determining how many desktops run what form of Unix, so better numbers could be derived for overall Unix driver support. Actually, the rest of the BSDs are most welcome to participate, and I've just update the port to extend the initial stats sent to include Operating System ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats Project v1.0
I just threw up a couple of very simple tables, showing # of systems
reporting in this month, as well as a break down of release / architecture
for those that have reported in ...
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, Garrett Cooper wrote:
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User Freebsd wrote:
John pointed out a bug that I hadn't noticed, mainly because I was
testing single host ... basically, I installed PHP5 on the backend, and
stupidly didn't check to make sure that they *hadn't* gone and changed
all of the DB access functions from 4.x :(
The bug is fixed, and I've tested using three different servers to make
sure its being updated properly ...
For those that have submitted already once, please re-submit, since your
data was added the first time through ...
And, there is now a port /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats that will
install it in /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly, thanks to John there too
... no changes to the script itself have been made yet, just a fix on
the backend ...
Will work on adding pciconf support in next ...
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, User Freebsd wrote:
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, John Nielsen wrote:
Here is a sample (working) port. Un-tar the archive under
ports/sysutils. It installs the script to
${LOCALBASE}/etc/periodic/monthly and prints a message about how to
enable it. Have a look at it, edit all the text entries to make them
your own (in particular I didn't do a real pkg-descr), and submit it
as a PR (I can assist you with that off-list if you'd like).
Perfect, thanks ... I have commit access to ports, so I can commit it
later over the weekend ...
Feature request: the script should output one line of text indicating
success or failure (and to remind people who read their periodic
e-mails that it's actually running).
I am personally terrible at 'human friendly features', especially when
it comes to text ... its why most web pages I design seem
ultra-utilitarian unless I talk someone into writing things nicely ...
IMHO, this whole thing isn't meant for my edification, but to provide
*us*, as a project, with some overall numbers to advocate/market
ourselves better ... *please* feel free to submit any patches to the
script that you (or anyone else) feels needs to be added to improve
things ...
The more ppl involved, the more successful the endeavor will be ...
Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services
(http://www.hub.org)
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I know I may be overachieving a bit in my overall thoughts of this
plan, but why not do something similar for the rest of the BSDs and/or
Linux/Solaris? I find this a good statistical tool for determining how
many desktops run what form of Unix, so better numbers could be derived
for overall Unix driver support.
Just a thought..
- -Garrett
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Re: BSDstats Project v1.0
Just added 'country' stats to the mix, to see what our distribution is per
country ...
On Sun, 6 Aug 2006, User Freebsd wrote:
I just threw up a couple of very simple tables, showing # of systems
reporting in this month, as well as a break down of release / architecture
for those that have reported in ...
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, Garrett Cooper wrote:
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User Freebsd wrote:
John pointed out a bug that I hadn't noticed, mainly because I was
testing single host ... basically, I installed PHP5 on the backend, and
stupidly didn't check to make sure that they *hadn't* gone and changed
all of the DB access functions from 4.x :(
The bug is fixed, and I've tested using three different servers to make
sure its being updated properly ...
For those that have submitted already once, please re-submit, since your
data was added the first time through ...
And, there is now a port /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats that will
install it in /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly, thanks to John there too
... no changes to the script itself have been made yet, just a fix on
the backend ...
Will work on adding pciconf support in next ...
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, User Freebsd wrote:
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, John Nielsen wrote:
Here is a sample (working) port. Un-tar the archive under
ports/sysutils. It installs the script to
${LOCALBASE}/etc/periodic/monthly and prints a message about how to
enable it. Have a look at it, edit all the text entries to make them
your own (in particular I didn't do a real pkg-descr), and submit it
as a PR (I can assist you with that off-list if you'd like).
Perfect, thanks ... I have commit access to ports, so I can commit it
later over the weekend ...
Feature request: the script should output one line of text indicating
success or failure (and to remind people who read their periodic
e-mails that it's actually running).
I am personally terrible at 'human friendly features', especially when
it comes to text ... its why most web pages I design seem
ultra-utilitarian unless I talk someone into writing things nicely ...
IMHO, this whole thing isn't meant for my edification, but to provide
*us*, as a project, with some overall numbers to advocate/market
ourselves better ... *please* feel free to submit any patches to the
script that you (or anyone else) feels needs to be added to improve
things ...
The more ppl involved, the more successful the endeavor will be ...
Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services
(http://www.hub.org)
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I know I may be overachieving a bit in my overall thoughts of this
plan, but why not do something similar for the rest of the BSDs and/or
Linux/Solaris? I find this a good statistical tool for determining how
many desktops run what form of Unix, so better numbers could be derived
for overall Unix driver support.
Just a thought..
- -Garrett
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Re: so for kicks, i just ...
On Sun, 6 Aug 2006, Jonathan Horne wrote: i just decided to take a box, and installworld, without going to single user mode. from what i can see, the update was completely successful. of course, other then myself (su'd to root), there were no other users logged in). i wonder how many people are brave enough, and do actually installworld without changing to single user mode? i wonder what is truly at risk from not going to single mode? I do it on production servers all the time, with multiple users logged in ... the only time I've been burnt was when trying to do an upgrade from 4.x to 6.x where enough changed that /bin/sh even blew up :( But, in that case, it was only my desktop, so no risk ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats Project v1.0
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, John Nielsen wrote:
Here is a sample (working) port. Un-tar the archive under
ports/sysutils. It installs the script to
${LOCALBASE}/etc/periodic/monthly and prints a message about how to
enable it. Have a look at it, edit all the text entries to make them
your own (in particular I didn't do a real pkg-descr), and submit it as
a PR (I can assist you with that off-list if you'd like).
Perfect, thanks ... I have commit access to ports, so I can commit it
later over the weekend ...
Feature request: the script should output one line of text indicating
success or failure (and to remind people who read their periodic e-mails
that it's actually running).
I am personally terrible at 'human friendly features', especially when it
comes to text ... its why most web pages I design seem ultra-utilitarian
unless I talk someone into writing things nicely ...
IMHO, this whole thing isn't meant for my edification, but to provide
*us*, as a project, with some overall numbers to advocate/market ourselves
better ... *please* feel free to submit any patches to the script that you
(or anyone else) feels needs to be added to improve things ...
The more ppl involved, the more successful the endeavor will be ...
Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
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Re: BSDstats Project v1.0
John pointed out a bug that I hadn't noticed, mainly because I was testing
single host ... basically, I installed PHP5 on the backend, and stupidly
didn't check to make sure that they *hadn't* gone and changed all of the
DB access functions from 4.x :(
The bug is fixed, and I've tested using three different servers to make
sure its being updated properly ...
For those that have submitted already once, please re-submit, since your
data was added the first time through ...
And, there is now a port /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats that will install
it in /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly, thanks to John there too ... no
changes to the script itself have been made yet, just a fix on the backend
...
Will work on adding pciconf support in next ...
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, User Freebsd wrote:
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, John Nielsen wrote:
Here is a sample (working) port. Un-tar the archive under ports/sysutils.
It installs the script to ${LOCALBASE}/etc/periodic/monthly and prints a
message about how to enable it. Have a look at it, edit all the text
entries to make them your own (in particular I didn't do a real pkg-descr),
and submit it as a PR (I can assist you with that off-list if you'd like).
Perfect, thanks ... I have commit access to ports, so I can commit it later
over the weekend ...
Feature request: the script should output one line of text indicating
success or failure (and to remind people who read their periodic e-mails
that it's actually running).
I am personally terrible at 'human friendly features', especially when it
comes to text ... its why most web pages I design seem ultra-utilitarian
unless I talk someone into writing things nicely ...
IMHO, this whole thing isn't meant for my edification, but to provide *us*,
as a project, with some overall numbers to advocate/market ourselves better
... *please* feel free to submit any patches to the script that you (or
anyone else) feels needs to be added to improve things ...
The more ppl involved, the more successful the endeavor will be ...
Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
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Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: This is cool and all, but why are the concentration solely on PCI devices? pciconf output doesn't tell you directly what CPUs are in the system or even how many there are. It doesn't tell you exactly what sort of memory or disk drives the system uses -- all of which would be important information that might just persuade hardware manufacturers to provide more FreeBSD support. Surely a condensed version of /var/run/dmesg.boot is more to the point. /var/run/dmesg.boot can't be relied on, unfortunately ... I've had *many* times where a reboot leaves that blank, or with non-dmesg like output ... if you can provide a non-dmesg method of adding this information that is consistent (ie. pciconf), then sure, we can add this sort of information ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Antony Mawer wrote: On 4/08/2006 3:17 AM, User Freebsd wrote: On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: This is cool and all, but why are the concentration solely on PCI devices? pciconf output doesn't tell you directly what CPUs are in the system or even how many there are. It doesn't tell you exactly what sort of memory or disk drives the system uses -- all of which would be important information that might just persuade hardware manufacturers to provide more FreeBSD support. Surely a condensed version of /var/run/dmesg.boot is more to the point. /var/run/dmesg.boot can't be relied on, unfortunately ... I've had *many* times where a reboot leaves that blank, or with non-dmesg like output ... if you can provide a non-dmesg method of adding this information that is consistent (ie. pciconf), then sure, we can add this sort of information ... Some of this information can be gathered from the hw.* sysctl's, at least on 6.x... 'k, what I'm going to work on this weekend is a first pass at both the periodic script, and the receiving database ... I will post the script when completed, so that we can test what has been discussed so far, then we can look at adding on 'features' from there to pull in more information ... Fair enough? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, User Freebsd wrote: On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Antony Mawer wrote: On 4/08/2006 3:17 AM, User Freebsd wrote: On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: This is cool and all, but why are the concentration solely on PCI devices? pciconf output doesn't tell you directly what CPUs are in the system or even how many there are. It doesn't tell you exactly what sort of memory or disk drives the system uses -- all of which would be important information that might just persuade hardware manufacturers to provide more FreeBSD support. Surely a condensed version of /var/run/dmesg.boot is more to the point. /var/run/dmesg.boot can't be relied on, unfortunately ... I've had *many* times where a reboot leaves that blank, or with non-dmesg like output ... if you can provide a non-dmesg method of adding this information that is consistent (ie. pciconf), then sure, we can add this sort of information ... Some of this information can be gathered from the hw.* sysctl's, at least on 6.x... 'k, what I'm going to work on this weekend is a first pass at both the periodic script, and the receiving database ... I will post the script when completed, so that we can test what has been discussed so far, then we can look at adding on 'features' from there to pull in more information ... Fair enough? BTW, if anyone out there likes doing HTML and web pages, please let me know ... anything *I* do will be as utilititarian as I can make them :) Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IMPORTANT] Adaptec no longer supporting iir(4) driver ...
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, John-Mark Gurney wrote: User Freebsd wrote this message on Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 22:44 -0300: For those that haven't been following the discussion on this, the iir(4) driver in FreeBSD 6.x appears to have a deadlock issue under medium to heavy load, where the 'blocked' state just continues to rise until file accesses just no longer work ... So, if you are running a server that is using the iir(4) device driver and are considering upgrading to FreeBSD 6.x and beyond, or are looking to build a new machine using a device that relies on this driver, do so at your own peril ... Please note that this deadlock issue exists on *both* the ICP Vortex cards, *and* the Intel based RAID controllers ... Have you tried the driver in -current and/or 6.1-R? Specificly v1.14 and v1.13.2.1 of iir.c that limits the simq to 32 commands? We are running w/ this modifications w/o issues on 6.0-R w/ SRCU31A and SRCU42L cards... We have a few GDT cards also that I don't believe we are having any issues with... Yes, this was the first thing ScottL asked when we narrowed the problem down ... this appears to be a different issue then the one you were seeing :( Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BSDstats Project v1.0
'k folks ... the quick and dirty .. actually, not too dirty ... The attached script goes into /etc/periodic/monthly (and can be run from the command line) and is the *very* barebones ... it reports operating system and architecture ... it will return a unique id at the same time which will be used when we add in the pciconf output ... I have it recording two things: IP and hostname ... I figure it is highly unlikely for two hosts to ever have both identical, so a *fairly* safe unique key to work with ... and unless someone is running a whack of machines behind NAT with the same hostname, it gives us a safe unique counter for those behind NAT ... The backend is storing the data in a database right now, so what I'm curious most about is someone running behind NAT with a few servers, or behind a proxy, just to see what sort of results ... I'm going to try and get the pciconf output added into it later tonight, and will post a follow up, but this at leave gives something to test against ... Right now, there is no output on the web site, but I do have a link to, and daily run of, awstats, which will at least show some figures ... once there is data in the database, I'll start working up a stats page based on the #s there ... Note that once you've added this script, you need to add: monthly_statistics_enable=YES to /etc/periodic.conf so that it will run monthly ... and, of course, you can run it manually, instead of waiting until the end of the month ... You can also run it as often as you like, it will only record one submission *per* month, but it will update the data based on the last submission (ie. if you upgrade, or add/remove hardware) ... Its a start ... will work on extending it to add the pciconf output next, and send a v2.0 script as soon as that is ready :) Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664#!/bin/sh - # # $FreeBSD: src/etc/periodic/monthly/300.accounting,v 1.10 2002/09/24 18:53:46 ache Exp $ # # If there is a global system configuration file, suck it in. # monthly_statistics_mailto=[EMAIL PROTECTED],root if [ -r /etc/defaults/periodic.conf ] then . /etc/defaults/periodic.conf source_periodic_confs fi oldmask=$(umask) umask 066 case $monthly_statistics_enable in [Yy][Ee][Ss]) HN=`/bin/hostname` SYS=`/usr/bin/uname -r` ARCH=`/usr/bin/uname -m` /usr/bin/fetch -qo /tmp/getid http://bsdstats.hub.org/scripts/getid.php?hn=$HN\sys=$SYS\arch=$ARCH ;; *) rc=0;; esac umask $oldmask exit $rc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats Project v1.0
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Colin Percival wrote: User Freebsd wrote: 'k folks ... the quick and dirty .. actually, not too dirty ... The attached script [...] Can you make this into a port which users can install? I'm not sure, can I? Can ports install into /etc/periodic? Or is there some other way of doing it? If you want to do the initial port and assign MAINTAINER to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I'll maintain it from there ... I'm just not sure how to deal with installing into non-/usr/local as a port ... :( Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Antony Mawer wrote: Agreed... I could probably add around 1,500 systems that could conceivably be setup to chime in with their numbers periodically; one of the pre-requisites for that would be that the access method be HTTP or HTTPS based so it could be relayed via a proxy... Another nice thing to include might be a hash of hardware inventory (a further opt-in thing beyond the basic checkins)... Mark alluded to this early in the piece, but it would be nice to be able to pull up something that said hang on, out of the X% of users on file, Y% are using Adaptec SCSI cards, in particular model XYZ... this would be very helpful when trying to get vendor support etc... Some form of hash calculated on these would allow you to detect if they had changed at all, and only re-send them in the event of a change... ... just thinking out loud ... ! 'k, so, how do we script this then? Getting a list of devices is actually pretty easy, and I've tried this on my 4.x machines also, so it isn't something that will be a problem on older versions: # pciconf -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x700c1022 rev=0x20 hdr=0x00 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:0: class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0x700d1022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:7:0: class=0x060100 card=0x chip=0x74401022 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:7:1: class=0x01018a card=0x74411022 chip=0x74411022 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:7:3: class=0x068000 card=0x74431022 chip=0x74431022 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:9:0: class=0x010400 card=0xc0351044 chip=0xa5111044 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:11:0:class=0x02 card=0x10018086 chip=0x100f8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:16:0:class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0x74481022 rev=0x05 hdr=0x01 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0: class=0x0c0310 card=0x74491022 chip=0x74491022 rev=0x07 hdr=0x00 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:7:0: class=0x03 card=0x80081002 chip=0x47521002 rev=0x27 hdr=0x00 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:8:0: class=0x02 card=0x10408086 chip=0x12298086 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 And, more specifically, we can get: # pciconf -l -v [EMAIL PROTECTED]:9:0: class=0x010400 card=0xc0351044 chip=0xa5111044 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Adaptec (Formerly: Distributed Processing Technology (DPT))' device = 'Raptor SmartRAID Controller' class= mass storage subclass = RAID So, with that one command, we can get a fair amount of hardware information ... but, how to feed that into a proper HTTP request? Storing all of that information would be cool, cause then we could build reports based on device driver / vendor / device / class and subclass ... but that might be a bit heavy to do in an HTTP request, no? I take it email isn't an option, in your case? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maybe it's just because I've been reading up on it but what about outputting the information in XML??? Then you could tag the Vendor, Name, basic info, number of users, etc. in a tagged form that could be then stored in a Dbase of some kind by vendor, working in FreeBSD X.Y, broken, etc. The XML should be easily outputted on the fly to XHTML so it can be reviewed by devolopers and what not. Just my too cents... 'k, right now, we are trying to get the data from the remote clients to a central server ... if you are thinking of using XML for this (not against it, I just know nothing about it), can you provide an example of what you are thinking, and how we'd script this to use HTTP to connect to the remote server? The hard part of all of this is that it cannot require *anything* except for the base system, so no php, no perl ... just pure shell commands ... it cannot require an administrator to install anything above the script itself ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project
Okay, there has been alot of discussion on this in the other thread, some of it tangent'd to the original, so, I'm starting off a new thread as a sort of summary ... I've been doing some thinking on it this afternoon, and think I've figured out about the simpliest way of doing it ... it still doesn't deal with fakers and such, but, IMHO, I don't think that that is a *huge* problem that needs to be addressed ... some might do it for a lark, but, overall, it just sounds like something that is more worth then its worth, so over time, it should eventually balance out ... Now, the idea is to make this: a) run on as many boxes as possible b) not require any special software to be installed on the clients c) not require any special registration by the clients d) not pull any sensitive information So, here is what I've kinda got it down to ... pseudo-ish code, since I haven't got the exact syntax worked out *yet* ... specifically, parsing pciconv to get query strings out of it ... Now, this is designed to be run *once* per month, per host ... it is also meant to try, to a certain extent, deal with NAT boxes ... its not perfect, but, unfortunately, as this whole discussion has shown, there really is no perfect way ... STEP 1: fetch -o /tmp/getid http://bsdstats.hub.org/get_id.php get_id.php will look at the IP that is coming in, search the database, and if a host already exist, will increment by 1 and return a new id ... all IPs will have at least one: IP:1 pair in the database, NAT hosts will have IP:2, IP:3, IP:4, etc ... STEP 2: pciconf -lv needs to be parsed, this being the hard step, into a string that can be sent via HTTP ... this is the hard part because it has to be done as/in a shell script ... anyone out there *really* good at shell programming? What needs to happen is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:2: class=0x060400 card=0x0044 chip=0x032a8086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '6700PXH PCI Express-to-PCI Express Bridge B' class= bridge subclass = PCI-PCI Needs to be converted into: device=pcibvendor=Intel+Corporationdevice=6700PXH+PCI+Express-to-PCI+Express+Bridge+Bclass=bridgesubclass=PCI-PCI So that the final query would look something like: fetch http://bsdstats.hub.org/report.php?id=`cat /tmp/getid`device=pcibvendor=Intel+Corporationdevice=6700PXH+PCI+Express-to-PCI+Express+Bridge+Bclass=bridgesubclass=PCI-PCI So there would be one 'fetch' per device listed ... report.php would take the IP:getid pair, and store one record per device into the database, from which stats could be very easily generated using standard SQL queries ... STEP 3: fetch http://bsdstats.hub.org/report_sys.php?id=`cat /tmp/getid`system=`uname -mr | sed 's/\ /+/g'` To record the FreeBSD version ... I personally don't think there is anything else useful / non-sensitive that we'd want to report on ... Now, the idea is that this would be dump'd into /etc/periodic/monthly, and /etc/defaults/periodic.conf would have: monthly_statistics_enable=YES monthly_statistics_report_pciconf=YES Optimally, we'd love to have everyone report pciconf information, since knowing what vendors and devices are in use would definitely add more weight then *just* what version of FreeBSD, but in order to hopefully get as much buy into this as possible, the script should be written to allow it to be disabled ... again, I can't think of why someone would feel that that was 'sensitive information', but providing the option to shut it off is definitely a must ... How does that sound? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project
Sweet, thanks ... On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Philip Hallstrom wrote: pciconf -lv needs to be parsed, this being the hard step, into a string that can be sent via HTTP ... this is the hard part because it has to be done as/in a shell script ... anyone out there *really* good at shell programming? What needs to happen is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:2: class=0x060400 card=0x0044 chip=0x032a8086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '6700PXH PCI Express-to-PCI Express Bridge B' class= bridge subclass = PCI-PCI Needs to be converted into: device=pcibvendor=Intel+Corporationdevice=6700PXH+PCI+Express-to-PCI+Express+Bridge+Bclass=bridgesubclass=PCI-PCI So that the final query would look something like: fetch http://bsdstats.hub.org/report.php?id=`cat /tmp/getid`device=pcibvendor=Intel+Corporationdevice=6700PXH+PCI+Express-to-PCI+Express+Bridge+Bclass=bridgesubclass=PCI-PCI This will get you close. Just change the echo line... -- #!/bin/sh IFS= query_string= for line in `pciconf -lv` do echo $line | grep -qs ^[a-z] if [ $? -eq 0 ] then if [ -n $query_string ] then echo http://foo.com/bar.php?$query_string query_string= fi else query_string=$query_string`echo $line | sed -e 's/^ *//' -e 's/ *=/=/' -e 's/= */=/' -e 's/ $//'` fi done -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Boris Samorodov wrote: Hi Marc, On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:30:08 -0300 (ADT) you wrote: Okay, there has been alot of discussion on this in the other thread, some of it tangent'd to the original, so, I'm starting off a new thread as a sort of summary ... Great idea, but should be introduced with care... I've been doing some thinking on it this afternoon, and think I've figured out about the simpliest way of doing it ... it still doesn't deal with fakers and such, but, IMHO, I don't think that that is a *huge* problem that needs to be addressed ... some might do it for a lark, but, overall, it just sounds like something that is more worth then its worth, so over time, it should eventually balance out ... ...taking into consideration *why* do we want to do the stats. *If* we plan (and this is one of the goals of the project) to have those stats as a serious argument for a Big Business then we *must* prove that those numbers are not faked. Or even more strict: that those numbers can't (or even very, no VERY hard to) be faked. It's useless (as a serious argument) if it can be faked: imagine that a virus (warm or else) is written to fake it. Personally, I do not believe that there is any *safe* way of protecting against this happening ... short of having a userid/passwd schema and forcing ppl to actually register ... of course, then less ppl would participate, since it would then be too much work ... The thing is to do as much as we possible can to 'tighten it down' without making it difficult to use ... over time, if something gets added to the OS that helps improve this, we can extend teh script to check for and use such features ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project
On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I don't think this stuff should be tracked in any centralized fashion. I don't particullarly like when our freedom to choose to do something is tracked or monitored; because it is no longer a freedom. Maybe that is just paranoia speaking. none of your freedoms will be in any way infringed upon with what is proposed ... you will always have the freedom to disable the reporting and not particpate *shrug* I think a much more productive goal is to get all the users that have unsupported hardware to write into the vendor that created it and ask them why they don't support a spawn of the OS that allowed what we call the internet to exist. Put this message on FreeBSD.org, get people in this list to do it, get on a soap box and scream it. I think giving them numbers of systems will just be ignored. But getting 1000 emails a day in multiple languages from around the world will get them thinking maybe its worth at least releasing the specs just to shut these people up. The above is an active campaign, which you will generally find doesn't yield anything, unfortunately, since its more work then 99.9% of the people will feel compelled to do ... As ScottL said in one of his emails, in a form ... We don't want to piss Adaptec off, which a letter writing campaign would ... what we want to do is give Adaptec something to think about in terms of 'market missed' ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Antony Mawer wrote: On 4/08/2006 4:58 AM, User Freebsd wrote: Getting a list of devices is actually pretty easy, and I've tried this on my 4.x machines also, so it isn't something that will be a problem on older versions: # pciconf -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x700c1022 rev=0x20 hdr=0x00 ... And, more specifically, we can get: # pciconf -l -v [EMAIL PROTECTED]:9:0: class=0x010400 card=0xc0351044 chip=0xa5111044 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Adaptec (Formerly: Distributed Processing Technology (DPT))' device = 'Raptor SmartRAID Controller' class= mass storage subclass = RAID All of the expanded 'vendor', 'device', 'class' and 'subclass' information is present in the non -v version of the command output. The numbers shown earlier can be used to derive the text information: class=0x010400 determines the class/subclass lines, using the table from here: http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/dev/pci/pci.c#L1340 card=0xc0351044 chip=0xa5111044 these make up the vendor and device lines, using the list in /usr/share/misc/pci_vendors (which is derived from the PCIDEVS.TXT listing). The last 4 hex digits of the card and chip lines are the vendor ID while the first 4 are the device ID. The card is often given by the vendor, while the chip identifies the actual part it uses to implement functionality. For instance, a Netcomm ethernet NIC may use a Realtek 8139 chip... so chip gives us the fact it's essentially a generic Realtek chipset, while the card tells us the vendor who manufactured the card perhaps their name for it. In short, there's no reason to have to transmit all the text names back to any server -- this can all be resolved at the server end, I was thinking of that ... my concern, and it may be totally invalid, but is it guaranteed to always translate the same? ie: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:8:0: class=0x02 card=0x10408086 chip=0x12298086 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82550/1/7/8/9 EtherExpress PRO/100(B) Ethernet Adapter' class= network subclass = ethernet Will that always translate the same regardless of running 4.x vs 5.x vs ... ? If so, you are right, that does greatly simplify things ... I just wasn't 100% certain ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Antony Mawer wrote: All of the expanded 'vendor', 'device', 'class' and 'subclass' information is present in the non -v version of the command output. The numbers shown earlier can be used to derive the text information: class=0x010400 determines the class/subclass lines, using the table from here: http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/dev/pci/pci.c#L1340 card=0xc0351044 chip=0xa5111044 these make up the vendor and device lines, using the list in /usr/share/misc/pci_vendors (which is derived from the PCIDEVS.TXT listing). The last 4 hex digits of the card and chip lines are the vendor ID while the first 4 are the device ID. The card is often given by the vendor, while the chip identifies the actual part it uses to implement functionality. For instance, a Netcomm ethernet NIC may use a Realtek 8139 chip... so chip gives us the fact it's essentially a generic Realtek chipset, while the card tells us the vendor who manufactured the card perhaps their name for it. In short, there's no reason to have to transmit all the text names back to any server -- this can all be resolved at the server end, 'k, looking at the above, and comparing it to what I'm getting from pciconf -l, I'm missing something ... namely: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:10:0:class=0x02 card=0x0027a0a0 chip=0x813910ec rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 Translates to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:10:0:class=0x02 card=0x0027a0a0 chip=0x813910ec rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' device = 'RT8139 (A/B/C/810x/813x/C+) Fast Ethernet Adapter' class= network subclass = ethernet But, the last 4 hex of card/chip aren't teh same ... oh, wait, re-reading what you stated, is it safe to assume that chip= can be ignored ... nope, that doesn't follow either ... but I think I see it ... For the above, vendor *should* be Aopen Inc, not Realtek Semiconductor ... 'k, so, for the above: card=0x0027a0a0 - Aopen Inc (A0A0) chip=0x813910ec - Realtek Semiconductor (10EC) - 8139RT8139 (A/B/C/810x/813x/C+) Fast Ethernet Adapter (8139) And the 0027 is actually meaningless in this case ... So, what I'm looking for is vendor-device, but in some card= cases, there won't be a 'Device' listed ... As to class= ... what table am I supposed to be seeing at that URL? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: This may sound dumb but why don't we just put a registration link on the FreeBSD main page... or registration in sysinstall. Isn't this how everyone else handles the problem? User A installs FreeBSD, registers, works with it for a week, finds he isn't getting anything done with it, wipes the drive and goes to something else ... User B installs FreeBSD 5.x, registers, works with it for a while and decides to CVSup to -CURRENT, so now we have an artificially high # of 6.x installs, and an artificially low # of 7.x installs ... nobody looks to be moving to 7.x, therefore why support it from a vendors perspective ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Peter A. Giessel wrote: On 2006/08/02 15:37, User Freebsd seems to have typed: On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: This may sound dumb but why don't we just put a registration link on the FreeBSD main page... or registration in sysinstall. Isn't this how everyone else handles the problem? I'd fill out a form to register FreeBSD, I did so with OpenOffice, and I did so with MacOSX, but I'm not going to let a DHD (dial home device) knowingly sit on my server. Thats one (of many) reasons I don't use Microsoft. I'll remove it before the installworld step if need be. Pine has a nice feature in it ... when you upgrade or install, the first thing it prompts you for when you start it up the first time is whether or not you wish to send a message in to be counted as a pine user ... its an opt-in sort of thing, but highly visible ... Maybe have something like this at the very end of the installworld? So that it isn't automatic, but it is an obvious step that ppl go through? It should also be included as part of sysinstall, again, opt-in ... do you want to have you install counted? ... sysinstall should report it as a fresh install, installworld as an upgrade ... The problem with something like this, mind you, is that the #s go up, but never come down (ie. someone retires a server), since there is no 'refresh timeout' ... The thing I was hoping for / looking at was some sort of update mechanism, so that retired servers would 'fade out' of the numbers ... the problem is that that requires *some sort* of DHD, whether it be in the form of something like uptimec, or a 'periodic monthly' report that goes out to say i'm still alive :( Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: Let me say it again. There are three problems we are trying to solve. a. Bandwidth. Bandwidth, IMHO, isn't that big of an issue ... the ramp up time for this, IMHO, will be slow, so the bandwidth usage will be a gradual increase ... b. Duplicates. Ted seems to have this covered with the CPU ID thing ... c. Fakery. IMHO, not a *really* big issue ... I could see someone bothering to do it once or twice, but seems to be alot of work for little gain ... The main problem that I see is finding a method of doing this that a majority of ppl can agree with ... and then convincing Core of the merits, a group that hasn't even voiced an opinion in this conversation yet ... :( Without Core endorsement, this whole thing is a still birth, unfortunately ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: Chris Whitehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alex Zbyslaw wrote: Counting portsnap and cvsup accesses is non-intrusive - i.e. nothing sent from local host - will count systems from any version of FreeBSD, but will never count everything because sites with multiple hosts may easily have local propagation mechanisms. But you will get an order of magnitude. However, how do you deal with systems with variable IPs? I don't know enough about the internals of either portsnap or cvsup to know if there is some kind of unique id associated with hosts. If not, then you'd wildly over count for many home-based, variable IP systems. Maybe not so many, my non-static ip hasn't changed since I signed up 3 years ago despite turning off the modem for the odd day or two. Another network I look after also hasn't changed in a year. But one can't rely on that. You'll definitely see more than one ip associated with my laptop, if I move it around. A more reliable way that I can think of is generating a unique ID number when a system finishes installation or upon the first boot. However, it may involve some additional privacy problem. What do you think? How does Solaris generate its 'hostid'? Is it a hardware/sparc thing, or software? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Gerard Seibert wrote: Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: But one can't rely on that. You'll definitely see more than one ip associated with my laptop, if I move it around. A more reliable way that I can think of is generating a unique ID number when a system finishes installation or upon the first boot. However, it may involve some additional privacy problem. What do you think? Unquestionable a privacy problem. Perhaps even illegal in some jurisdictions without the end users knowledge and permission. 'k, I'm confused on this one ... could you elaborate on why this is a privacy issue? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT8514RZ ...
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: Hi! On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:49:27PM -0300, User Freebsd wrote: Official word from Adaptec is that FreeBSD is no longer a supported platform, so, I either live with the deadlocks, or try and figure out a suitable replacement for the card ... That's really really bad news. Oddly, ICP Vortex Germany told me the opposite wr/t to their new line of cards. They said, they were working on full FreeBSD support. Great, that definitely wasn't the feel that I got from them ... I've been using Adaptec products since early 90's, mainly because they have always been the 'tried-n-true' product ... As I mentioned to someone else, I'm willing to endure having the server hang up a few times in order to debug the problem, and fix the driver, but any correspondance that I actually got answers back on gave me the feel that I was on my own ... my previous email to this was meant to warn others to think twice, especially with newer FreeBSD boxes, about going with anything that runs on the iir(4) driver ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT8514RZ ...
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Christian Brueffer wrote: On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:49:27PM -0300, User Freebsd wrote: I have a remote server, running the above RAID controller, that, as most ppl here have seen over the past few weeks, is causing endless headaches ... Official word from Adaptec is that FreeBSD is no longer a supported platform, so, I either live with the deadlocks, or try and figure out a suitable replacement for the card ... So, can anyone recommend a card to replace this with? Its a remote server, so I'm looking for something that will be plug-n-play, same slot that the GDT is in ... I realize that I'll have to reformat the server afterwards ... I contacted Achim Leubner not long ago, about wheather he still maintains and supports the iir(4) driver, as claimed in the SEE ALSO section of the manpage. His answer was yes. I email'd him several weeks back, as soon as it was determined that the problem I've been experiencing with the deadlocks looked to be iir related, and didn't hear anything back :( Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IMPORTANT] Adaptec no longer supporting iir(4) driver ...
A quick follow up on this email ... please note that I have not, in this email, pointed to anything but the iir(4) driver, and, more specifically, the GDT controller card ... I have been using Adaptec products since the early 90's, and, until upgrading to FreeBSD 6.x, *never* had a complaint with them ... this email was meant to be a 'caveat emptor' for anyone looking to use the iir(4) driver, and is not meant to apply to *all* Adaptec cards, as they don't all use the iir(4) driver ... Apologies to all who took this as a broad attack against Adaptec, it was not meant as such ... On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, User Freebsd wrote: 'k, I finally got ahold of someone @ adaptec, and the official word seems to be: FreeBSD 6 is not officially supported for the GDT based ICP RAID controllers. Nevertheless the inbox driver should work. Great, well, the inbox driver doesn't work with FreeBSD 6.x, and support doesn't exist to get it fixed, mainly since, as most ppl here know, the specs are closed, so even a non-Adaptec person can't do much to fix the problem(s) ... For those that haven't been following the discussion on this, the iir(4) driver in FreeBSD 6.x appears to have a deadlock issue under medium to heavy load, where the 'blocked' state just continues to rise until file accesses just no longer work ... So, if you are running a server that is using the iir(4) device driver and are considering upgrading to FreeBSD 6.x and beyond, or are looking to build a new machine using a device that relies on this driver, do so at your own peril ... Please note that this deadlock issue exists on *both* the ICP Vortex cards, *and* the Intel based RAID controllers ... If anyone from Adaptec is out there and is actually interested in seeing this problem fixed, *please* let me know ... I have three servers, all three exhibiting this problem, and one of them is fully loaded with the kernel debug stuff so that I can (I think) give you almost *anything* you want in the way of information concerning the problem ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
iir(4) driver (Was: Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT851...)
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: Hello! On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 09:51:59AM +0200, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: That's really really bad news. Oddly, ICP Vortex Germany told me the opposite wr/t to their new line of cards. They said, they were working on full FreeBSD support. I'll check what they have to say about the GDT controllers. OK - so here's the deal: The GDT products are officially EOE (End Of Engineering). ICP Vortex will not provide capacity to update their own driver for FreeBSD 6. The new products will feature full FreeBSD support, eventually. (couple of weeks, he said) 'k, just to clarify here ... the new products won't be based on the iir(4) driver then? Basically, should the iir(4) driver be considered EOE also? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: Generating a unique anonymous key is easy, proving why we need it is not. If you want to make accurate #s, you need to make sure that a host doesn't send in multiple reports, which means you need a unique key for each host ... IP doesn't work, since NAT'd networks would all use the same IP ... even non-NAT'd networks would have the risk of being on dynamic IPs, so that again doesn't work ... (20 + 32) bytes * (10^7) = 495.910645 megabytes. The FreeBSD team would need a 6.6Mbit/s uplink to handle peak load assuming 50% of the hosts are set to UTC/GMT time and all trigger within 5 minutes of each other I'm not going to pay for that connection. First question is ... what is 10^7? # of reporting hosts? Where are you getting that # from? Second, that is assuming *all* FreeBSD servers reported ... But, I'll say this right now ... *if* something like this could be implemented to give us accurate #s, I *would* be willing to absorb the bandwidth you are talking about to see it happen ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: On 7/31/06, User Freebsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: Chris Whitehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alex Zbyslaw wrote: Counting portsnap and cvsup accesses is non-intrusive - i.e. nothing sent from local host - will count systems from any version of FreeBSD, but will never count everything because sites with multiple hosts may easily have local propagation mechanisms. But you will get an order of magnitude. However, how do you deal with systems with variable IPs? I don't know enough about the internals of either portsnap or cvsup to know if there is some kind of unique id associated with hosts. If not, then you'd wildly over count for many home-based, variable IP systems. Maybe not so many, my non-static ip hasn't changed since I signed up 3 years ago despite turning off the modem for the odd day or two. Another network I look after also hasn't changed in a year. But one can't rely on that. You'll definitely see more than one ip associated with my laptop, if I move it around. A more reliable way that I can think of is generating a unique ID number when a system finishes installation or upon the first boot. However, it may involve some additional privacy problem. What do you think? How does Solaris generate its 'hostid'? Is it a hardware/sparc thing, or software? Generating a unique anonymous key is easy, proving why we need it is not. Ok, here it is, ifconfig | sha256 | md5 . 16^32 unique anonymous keys. Every host needs to have a NIC to send results so all ifconfig outputs will be different. Now... What does this solve and why do we need to add 32 extra bytes? 'k, so we'd be looking at something like: #!/bin/sh ID=`ifconfig | sha256 | md5` SYS=`uname -mr | sed 's/\ /+/g'` fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=$ID\SYSTEM=$SYS URL would be different, mind you, just using that to test / example ... Actually, using ifconfig wouldn't work ... it would give unique, but as soon as you add another IP (ie. alias), the ID would change ... you'd need to do something like: ifconfig | grep ether | sha256 | md5 since the 'ether' would never change ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IMPORTANT] Adaptec no longer supporting iir(4) driver ...
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Rico Secada wrote: On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:44:01 -0300 (ADT) User Freebsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems to me like the best solution is to boykott Adaptec like OpenBSD did. Actually, based on the thread going on on -stable right now, from ppl that are talking to Adaptec, the issue is that the cards that use the iir(4) driver, at least as far as I'm reading things, are no longer considered supported ... Adaptec / ICP Vortex *is* coming out with newer cards, that will be supported by FreeBSD, but they won't fall under the iir(4) driver ... So the problem is more 'older cards with newer operating system' ... 'k, I finally got ahold of someone @ adaptec, and the official word seems to be: FreeBSD 6 is not officially supported for the GDT based ICP RAID controllers. Nevertheless the inbox driver should work. Great, well, the inbox driver doesn't work with FreeBSD 6.x, and support doesn't exist to get it fixed, mainly since, as most ppl here know, the specs are closed, so even a non-Adaptec person can't do much to fix the problem(s) ... For those that haven't been following the discussion on this, the iir(4) driver in FreeBSD 6.x appears to have a deadlock issue under medium to heavy load, where the 'blocked' state just continues to rise until file accesses just no longer work ... So, if you are running a server that is using the iir(4) device driver and are considering upgrading to FreeBSD 6.x and beyond, or are looking to build a new machine using a device that relies on this driver, do so at your own peril ... Please note that this deadlock issue exists on *both* the ICP Vortex cards, *and* the Intel based RAID controllers ... If anyone from Adaptec is out there and is actually interested in seeing this problem fixed, *please* let me know ... I have three servers, all three exhibiting this problem, and one of them is fully loaded with the kernel debug stuff so that I can (I think) give you almost *anything* you want in the way of information concerning the problem ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Robert Huff wrote: User Freebsd writes: Actually, using ifconfig wouldn't work ... it would give unique, but as soon as you add another IP (ie. alias), the ID would change ... you'd need to do something like: ifconfig | grep ether | sha256 | md5 since the 'ether' would never change ... At least some cards (+ FreeBSD drivers) allow you to set the MAC address Man, we definitely don't make a unique host id an easy thing to accomplish, do we? :) Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iir(4) driver (Was: Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT851...)
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Scott Long wrote: Ok guys, time for a small breather here. All these claims about EoE and orphanage and whatnot are a bit premature and underinformed. First, the iir driver is being worked on when the need arises. Several bugs were fixed in it a few months ago, and until Mark's recent series of mails on it, no other problems had been reported. So far there is only one person reporting unhappiness with it, which doesn't necessarily mean that there is systematic trouble with the driver or the hardware. Second, various Adaptec sources have confirmed that they do support FreeBSD. Making big statements in public that they don't, or that it's not up to ones' standards or hopes, isn't terribly useful or productive. I'd hate for FreeBSD to turn into That Other BSD that publically abuses and harasses vendors for percieved sleights. There are much more positive and product ways to fix problems and form good relationships, and those ways are actively being pursued by some people right now. As email'd previous, I do apologize if my email was taken as disgruntled against Adaptec, for it was not meant as such ... it was merely meant as a warning to others, similar to your disclaimer below, that if you are running a card using the iir(4) driver, and are looking to move up to FreeBSD 6.x, that they might experience issues ... Please also note that until I hit what, from most angles, was appearing to be major brick walls, I was doing everything I could to, and am still willing to, provide all of the information I can towards diagnosing and fixing the issue ... I had tried all avenues that I knew about ... I tried email'ng the listed MAINTAINER, no response ... I got an email from one developer telling me that there wasn't much that could be done, due to the closed specs, without being able to get ahold of said MAINTAINER ... and the response I got back from ICP Vortex was one of the inbox driver should work fine, but we don't official support FreeBSD ... it doesn't leave much of a warm feeling that the driver is anything but orphaned :( My email was meant as a warning so that others could hopefully avoid the several weeks it took me to get to the point that all *appeared* lost ... Also, please note that in my email, I did finish it off with a plea that if anyone from Adaptec, or working with them, was out there, that my server was pretty much at their disposal to fix the problem, even at the risk of losing clients due to the downtime ... And here again is my standard disclaimer: I highly recommend that anyone who takes their data integrity seriously should spend time qualifying any RAID solution that they are interested in before putting it into production. What works for your workload might not work for someone else's workload, and vice-versa. In this case, we're talking about 3 servers that ran flawlessly with the iir(4) driver under 4.x, that are no exhibiting the deadlock/hang issues, after upgrading to FreeBSD 6.x ... Up until upgrading to FreeBSD 6.x, I've *never* had a problem with either an Adaptec controller, or running one with FreeBSD ... Scott Patrick M. Hausen wrote: Hello! 'k, just to clarify here ... the new products won't be based on the iir(4) driver then? Yes, they won't. Basically, should the iir(4) driver be considered EOE also? As far as Adaptec and ICP Vortex are concerned, yes. Since the driver is Open Source, there is no enforced EOE, just orphanage, if nobody is willing to work on it. Regards, Patrick M. Hausen Leiter Netzwerke und Sicherheit Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 8/1/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why not just add in the patch in kern/65627 and run the CPU serial number
through
your hash?
Because you can still fake the dam thing, making the whole idea
useless!!! Am I the only one that can see this ... what the hell
people! I just showed you a working crack! Need to see it again?:
my $number = 1;
my $randomkey = ;
while (0 == 0) {
$randomkey = `echo $number | md5`;
print fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=$randomkey;;
$number++
}
OUT:
fetch
http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=e8b3fad8939670f85e0fce777cae8e0c
fetch
http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=91e572785d190fec766a5b7caef16597
fetch
http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=e8150443d9befbfba9ee6ca40af076e7
fetch
http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=b1aefc59367a7d512104f2f63bf1afb8
fetch
http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=bf883c70f506603c86c8785cca8eef5e
fetch
http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=79e005d4f379e549eaff7106ede744b7
fetch
http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=de09c238162dae88e9372102fe114be9
fetch
http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=7ac8e65d693f525db9fabb061f15ac8b
fetch
http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=14e16452a9bdff69e5177ee4de0631e0
fetch
http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=5432cc5903e4ff9b556561c5b553220b
fetch
http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=263aaf7d4910cce7b66e2e4438d65ab2
fetch
http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=083d41d985775a53c2ada0c66b1a7d4c
fetch
http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=3e1b6b0b9c5c4d478b4a161c6e1c5d46
fetch
http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=1aed1b7d4add59bedfd21df56e15cd90
fetch
http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=233196bee8136806b7570532d1d34349
fetch
http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=56753858102f51b756c93bd5c0dbfaa5
fetch
http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=baea3619ea55ee516e3c556ffb7fd287
fetch
http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=cf49ffbeb51fd9864386388a68f41059
fetch
http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=f5c052e568711a4cb61890d7114d1f43
fetch
http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=5796f413c62eb369fa15c37fffb748f8
fetch
http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=4574ee7d3334a609c5b4de66f1527eca
Surrounded by #$%^*$@ idiots.
Actually, must have missed this the first time through, thanks ... but,
why would we need to run the CPU serial number through the hash, if its
already unique to each CPU?
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Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 8/1/06, Robert Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
User Freebsd writes:
Actually, using ifconfig wouldn't work ... it would give unique, but as
soon as you add another IP (ie. alias), the ID would change ... you'd
need
to do something like:
ifconfig | grep ether | sha256 | md5
since the 'ether' would never change ...
At least some cards (+ FreeBSD drivers) allow you to set the
MAC address
You still don't get it! Maybe this simple perl program will illustrate
the problem:
my $number = 1;
my $randomkey = ;
while (0 == 0) {
$randomkey = `echo $number | md5`;
print fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=$randomkey;;
$number++
}
Also by using only the mac address output of ifconfig you have limited
the pool of unique keys to 16^12 (281,474,976,710,656)!!! All I need
to do to find your mac address is compute all possible mac address
combinations into MD5 and then just simply match it up with yours.
Anonymity only works if the input is large then the output!!! Because
it's computationally impossible to compute all values of a 500+ byte
string etc. etc. The MD5 string maps back to at least (how do you
compute the collisions?) two SHA256 keys and the SHA256 maps back to
at least two ifconfig strings.
Thing is, we aren't so much looking for anonymity as we are uniqueness,
but, wouldn't the CPU serial id not be both?
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Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: Ok.. lets start from the top, again. Why do we need uniqueness? We want to count each host reporting *once* ... without uniqueness per host, how are you going to know whether to update a hosts record, instead of add it as a new host? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spamfilter
If you want a truly user-friendly spam/virus solution, check out: http://www.renaissoft.com/maia/ I have this backing 200 VPS, including postgresql.org itself, and its literally a dream, as it allows *each user* to individually tailor their settings ... On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Olivier Nicole wrote: 1) spamd (part of SpamAssassin) is written in perl. This is fine for a workstation, not so much for a high-volume mail server. SpamAssassin itself is written in Perl... But it can be run on a remote server, it does not have to be on the machine running sendmail. 2) installing spamass-milter requires rebuilding sendmail. (I have no idea about other MTAs.) This usually sounds more frightening than it is, but can still lead to complications. I think stock sendmail is installed with milter, so it is only a matter aof configuration, not of compiling. Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: On 8/1/06, User Freebsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: Ok.. lets start from the top, again. Why do we need uniqueness? We want to count each host reporting *once* ... without uniqueness per host, how are you going to know whether to update a hosts record, instead of add it as a new host? But no matter what you do you can never guaranty a hosts uniqueness... What you want to do is akin to DRM and there is no way to do this in the open source world. What is wrong with a total host count? If all hosts are reporting in once per month then whats the problem?... just simple addition: DATA: 6.1-STABLE i386 6.0-RELEASE i386 6.1-RELEASE-p2 AMD I guess I'm just trying to make it as accurate as possible, and fear someone fetch bombing just to artificially increase the #s ... but, then again, if they did do that, even with a unique value, it wouldn't take much to create a random one for that purpose ... So, ya, I guess a unique id would be pretty useless ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Colin Percival wrote: User Freebsd wrote: On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, Colin Percival wrote: Approximately 15000 portsnap snapshots (i.e., /var/db/portsnap or /usr/local/portsnap directories) are being kept updated on systems which send HTTP requests to portsnap*.freebsd.org. Of these, about 4300 are running FreeBSD 6.0, 4500 are running FreeBSD 6.1, 2400 are running FreeBSD 6-STABLE, 300 are running FreeBSD 5.5, and the remaining 3500 are using copies of portsnap installed from the ports tree (presumably on earlier FreeBSD releases, since the portsnap port won't install if portsnap is already part of the FreeBSD base system). 'k, *this* sounds like it might be perfect ... would it be possible to get a copy of the portsnap logs to see about setting up some sort of auto-parse? Maybe setup some statistics and graphs? You mean something like http://www.daemonology.net/portsnap/stats.html ? Not really ... more interested in a simpler graph / #s that denote # of distinct hosts for each version of FreeBSD each month ... depending on the amount of data you can pull out of the logs, getting #s per country, and #s per top level domain (ie. yahoo.com) would be cool too ... Also: gathering the access logs for portsnap.daemonology.net, portsnap1.freebsd.org, and portsnap2.freebsd.org Are those the *only* portsnap servers, or are there more? Again, the idea is to get a complete, and as accurate as possible, picture ... There are still a lot of people (particularly on pre-6.0 systems) who are using CVSup rather than portsnap for updating their ports trees. Actually, I'm ashamed to say that I'm still using CVSup also ... going to work on getting myself switched over too ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: Colin Percival wrote: There are still a lot of people (particularly on pre-6.0 systems) who are using CVSup rather than portsnap for updating their ports trees. Also, I would guess that some people who run multiple FreeBSD systems, use some sort of local propagation of either the entire ports tree, or locally compiled packages. I work as a sysadmin at the students computer lab at the mathematics department at the Norwegian university of science and technology, and we take this approach. Not that the maths department is a large one, but we have fifty-some workstations and a couple of servers running FreeBSD. Only one or two of which would show up in the portsnap stats. Ya, that is the part that throws the #s out completely ... its those 'ghost machines' that would be nice to see counted somehow ... How about something as innoculous as: fetch http://statsserver.domain/aliveping.php?version=`uname -mr`hostname=`hostname` run as part of periodic daily ... ? uname -mr would have to be properly formatted for a URL, but that would give a distinct IP / hostname for indexing, and OS version, take neglible bandwidth to run, and, I believe, doesn't give out any *sensitive* information ... Then have a daily_statistics_enable=YES in /etc/defaults/perodic.conf, so that ppl can opt out of it ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Jul 30, 2006, at 8:42 PM, User Freebsd wrote: On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, Colin Percival wrote: User Freebsd wrote: We can also collect the access information of the cvsup server and portsnap server, can't we? What does that give? Approximately 15000 portsnap snapshots (i.e., /var/db/portsnap or /usr/local/portsnap directories) are being kept updated on systems which send HTTP requests to portsnap*.freebsd.org. Of these, about 4300 are running FreeBSD 6.0, 4500 are running FreeBSD 6.1, 2400 are running FreeBSD 6-STABLE, 300 are running FreeBSD 5.5, and the remaining 3500 are using copies of portsnap installed from the ports tree (presumably on earlier FreeBSD releases, since the portsnap port won't install if portsnap is already part of the FreeBSD base system). BTW, is portsnap meant to replace cvsup, or ... ? Or are we still only getting half the picture if we look at portsnap only? You are getting some fraction of the picture. We don't use portsnap (and cvsup we do use but not that often), for example. We use cvsup here, daily, to update the ports tree ... and based on someone else's post (alex?), finding out that portsnap overwrites the ports tree, which I'm taking to mean it will remove anything I add to it, makes changing over for me a no-op :( Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: But this will then only count from the first version(s) of FreeBSD which contain the periodic job. Then every machine running an earlier release would be a ghost. Agreed, but any active counting will fail dealing with older machines, regardless ... this is something that should have been implemented / started *ages* ago ... we will never have # of sales figures we can market ourselves to vendors based on, but, we also have nothing in the way of # of deployments figures ... I think the bottom line I see is that whatever you do, you cannot count everything. *If* some kind of counting could be done *now* using portsnap and cvsup servers that are amenable, then you reasonably quickly start getting some kind of count. cvsup, i don't believe, will give us any #s, mainly since it doesn't seem to really provide any information: # grep 68851 /var/log/cvsup Apr 29 23:15:08 postgresql cvsupd[68851]: +4338 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (turbine.word-to-the-wise.com) [SNAP_16_1h/17.0] Apr 29 23:15:13 postgresql cvsupd[68851]: =4338 [96Kin+3Kout] pgsql/cvs Apr 29 23:15:13 postgresql cvsupd[68851]: -4338 [97Kin+3Kout] Finished successfully The some kind of optional periodic job can also be rolled out and many months down the line it would start to produce potentially more reliable (i.e. higher :-)) figures, assuming ppl were amenable to running it. But if you have to wait for 6.3 or 7.0 or whatever, and then wait for the majority to adopt it, that's longer than I think you want to wait for some kind of answer. ... true, but if we *never* do anything, we'll never have numbers ... even if there is a 12 month or more adoption curve, that adoption period has to start *somewhere* ... As far as ppl amenable to running it ... if the purpose was properly explained, with periodic reminders on the lists as to what the Stats Project was all about, and as long as the information being sent out is fully explain (ie. make sure ppl realize that nothing of a sensitive nature is being sent out), I think adoption would be alot easier ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT8514RZ ...
I have a remote server, running the above RAID controller, that, as most ppl here have seen over the past few weeks, is causing endless headaches ... Official word from Adaptec is that FreeBSD is no longer a supported platform, so, I either live with the deadlocks, or try and figure out a suitable replacement for the card ... So, can anyone recommend a card to replace this with? Its a remote server, so I'm looking for something that will be plug-n-play, same slot that the GDT is in ... I realize that I'll have to reformat the server afterwards ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[IMPORTANT] Adaptec no longer supporting iir(4) driver ...
'k, I finally got ahold of someone @ adaptec, and the official word seems to be: FreeBSD 6 is not officially supported for the GDT based ICP RAID controllers. Nevertheless the inbox driver should work. Great, well, the inbox driver doesn't work with FreeBSD 6.x, and support doesn't exist to get it fixed, mainly since, as most ppl here know, the specs are closed, so even a non-Adaptec person can't do much to fix the problem(s) ... For those that haven't been following the discussion on this, the iir(4) driver in FreeBSD 6.x appears to have a deadlock issue under medium to heavy load, where the 'blocked' state just continues to rise until file accesses just no longer work ... So, if you are running a server that is using the iir(4) device driver and are considering upgrading to FreeBSD 6.x and beyond, or are looking to build a new machine using a device that relies on this driver, do so at your own peril ... Please note that this deadlock issue exists on *both* the ICP Vortex cards, *and* the Intel based RAID controllers ... If anyone from Adaptec is out there and is actually interested in seeing this problem fixed, *please* let me know ... I have three servers, all three exhibiting this problem, and one of them is fully loaded with the kernel debug stuff so that I can (I think) give you almost *anything* you want in the way of information concerning the problem ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: My shop runs 30+ FreeBSD hosts, and I have several more for personal use. But of those there are maybe 2-3 that I would be ok with listing and exactly zero that I will actually list. It's not that I don't want to help, but I'm not going to run a process like that on a production server. What about sending something as simple as uname -mr? 'k ... uname -mr 6.1-STABLE i386 The only way this idea will work is if we put some code in the base system that sends something generic every few months. for example. Send 'uname -mr' to stats.freebsd.org every 3 months. It would be very easy to 'opt out', perhaps stats_enable=NO in rc.conf. Alternatively we could make it 'opt in' at install time. The installer could add stats_enable=YES to rc.conf when someone answers yes. The actual code to implement this is trivial, something like a few lines of shell script and a config file that lists the next send date. This config file can be checked during the monthly periodic and if needed trigger the stats script to send the anonymous data and update the next send date in the config file. If the stats script can't find a path out it should update the next send date and then die. Why not just have it as part of the monthly_periodic itself ... have it send a copy to a central address as well as to the admin itself, with the message containing a note on how to disable it in /etc/rc.conf, and have it opt_in by default? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: The only way this idea will work is if we put some code in the base system that sends something generic every few months. for example. Send 'uname -mr' to stats.freebsd.org every 3 months. It would be very easy to 'opt out', perhaps stats_enable=NO in rc.conf. Alternatively we could make it 'opt in' at install time. The installer could add stats_enable=YES to rc.conf when someone answers yes. The actual code to implement this is trivial, something like a few lines of shell script and a config file that lists the next send date. This config file can be checked during the monthly periodic and if needed trigger the stats script to send the anonymous data and update the next send date in the config file. If the stats script can't find a path out it should update the next send date and then die. Btw, you'd need to include something else in the mix to differentiate various hosts ... maybe MAC address or something like that? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: Yes and no. Not all cvsup servers are under the control of the FreeBSD project but you are right, they could log the release tag and more. Also don't forget about website stats, mailing list subscriptions, and ftp servers. None of which actually give you even close to accurate #s, unfortunately ... for instance, website stats ... if you were to look at the ones for freebsd.org, how many would be Windows Browsers :( And then we are only talking about desktops, not servers ... As to stuff like CVSup logs ... how many large deployments have one central CVSup 'downloader' while the rest in the org just feed off of that? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
