Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-14 Thread Igor Robul
Hello, On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 11:55:14PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Since this is meant to provide stats for *BSD, not just FreeBSD, I've setup bsdstats.org as a more 'neutral' site ... Maybe you need to move data from bsdstats.hub.org to bsdstats.org? Because now there is

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-14 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Igor Robul wrote: Hello, On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 11:55:14PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Since this is meant to provide stats for *BSD, not just FreeBSD, I've setup bsdstats.org as a more 'neutral' site ... Maybe you need to move data from bsdstats.hub.org to

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-12 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Friday 11 August 2006 22:29, Nikolas Britton wrote: On 8/11/06, Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Fri, 11 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: Ok... With my new script it took only 158 minutes to compute ALL TCP/IP address hashes. I'll repeat that... I

Re[3]: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-12 Thread Daniel Gerzo
Hello Marc, Saturday, August 12, 2006, 12:55:13 AM, you wrote: On Sat, 12 Aug 2006, Daniel Gerzo wrote: It would be nice to see this in base system, that would help to raise this number enourmously. And surely it would be nice to see it somewhere under the freebsd.org domain. Actually,

Re[3]: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-12 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 12 Aug 2006, Daniel Gerzo wrote: Hello Marc, Saturday, August 12, 2006, 12:55:13 AM, you wrote: On Sat, 12 Aug 2006, Daniel Gerzo wrote: It would be nice to see this in base system, that would help to raise this number enourmously. And surely it would be nice to see it somewhere

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-12 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 12 Aug 2006, Jonathan Horne wrote: * Can we trust Marc to delete them? Won't be anything to delete ... except for any time I need to debug the server end, the logs will be set to /dev/null ... * I thought this was going to be an official FreeBSD project hosted on freebsd.org?

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-11 Thread Nikolas Britton
Ok... With my new script it took only 158 minutes to compute ALL TCP/IP address hashes. I'll repeat that... I have an md5 hash for every IP address in the world! All I need to do is grep your hash and it will tell me your IP address. yippee! :-) Can we please find a new method to track hosts...

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-11 Thread Matthew Seaman
Nikolas Britton wrote: Ok... With my new script it took only 158 minutes to compute ALL TCP/IP address hashes. I'll repeat that... I have an md5 hash for every IP address in the world! All I need to do is grep your hash and it will tell me your IP address. yippee! :-) Can we please find a

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-11 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: Ok... With my new script it took only 158 minutes to compute ALL TCP/IP address hashes. I'll repeat that... I have an md5 hash for every IP address in the world! All I need to do is grep your hash and it will tell me your IP address. yippee! :-) Can

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-11 Thread Matthew Seaman
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Fri, 11 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: Ok... With my new script it took only 158 minutes to compute ALL TCP/IP address hashes. I'll repeat that... I have an md5 hash for every IP address in the world! All I need to do is grep your hash and it will tell me your

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-11 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 02:38:48PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: He's trying to prevent any possibility of information disclosure about his servers. If I wanted to hack into his site, knowing what hosts he had running (ie. a bunch of live IP numbers) and what OS etc. each used would mean I'm

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-11 Thread Paul Schmehl
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Fri, 11 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: Ok... With my new script it took only 158 minutes to compute ALL TCP/IP address hashes. I'll repeat that... I have an md5 hash for every IP address in the world! All I need to do is grep your hash and it will tell me your IP

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-11 Thread Matthew Seaman
Paul Schmehl wrote: 1) encrypt the data being fed to your systems by the script - this should be relatively easy using keys and would ensure that a man in the middle attack would fail. You can connect using ssh and a unique key without having to reveal passwords to anyone. Uh... HTTPS

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-11 Thread Paul Schmehl
Matthew Seaman wrote: Paul Schmehl wrote: 1) encrypt the data being fed to your systems by the script - this should be relatively easy using keys and would ensure that a man in the middle attack would fail. You can connect using ssh and a unique key without having to reveal passwords to

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-11 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 11:49 AM -0500 8/11/06, Paul Schmehl wrote: I would note that these issues appear to be impacting the project. As of right now, there are only 1612 systems reporting in, ... For my part, I've submitted two public hosts. I have four others I will not submit until I'm certain the data are

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-11 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006, Garance A Drosihn wrote: At 11:49 AM -0500 8/11/06, Paul Schmehl wrote: I would note that these issues appear to be impacting the project. As of right now, there are only 1612 systems reporting in, ... For my part, I've submitted two public hosts. I have four others

Re[2]: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-11 Thread Daniel Gerzo
Hello Garance, Friday, August 11, 2006, 9:59:41 PM, you wrote: At 11:49 AM -0500 8/11/06, Paul Schmehl wrote: I know we are used to dealing in internet-time, where things happen instantly, but there could be many reasons that the host count is only 1612. Reasons that have nothing to do

Re[2]: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-11 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 12 Aug 2006, Daniel Gerzo wrote: Hello Garance, Friday, August 11, 2006, 9:59:41 PM, you wrote: At 11:49 AM -0500 8/11/06, Paul Schmehl wrote: I know we are used to dealing in internet-time, where things happen instantly, but there could be many reasons that the host count is only

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-11 Thread Nikolas Britton
On 8/11/06, Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Fri, 11 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: Ok... With my new script it took only 158 minutes to compute ALL TCP/IP address hashes. I'll repeat that... I have an md5 hash for every IP address in the world! All I

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-10 Thread Nikolas Britton
On 8/9/06, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/9/06, Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Paul Schmehl wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Igor Robul wrote: On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 09:30:42PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Could

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-10 Thread Nikolas Britton
On 8/10/06, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/9/06, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/9/06, Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Paul Schmehl wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Igor Robul wrote: On Tue, Aug 08,

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Aug 8, 2006, at 5:30 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Antony Mawer wrote: On 9/08/2006 9:16 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Can you tell me exactly what you do with those two pieces of data? Is there any way that information would be accessible from the internet? Absolutely

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Igor Robul
On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 09:30:42PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Could create problems long term .. one thing I will be using the IPs to do is: SELECT ip, count(1) FROM systems GROUP BY ip ORDER BY count DESC; to look for any 'abnormalities' like todays with Armenia ... hashing it

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread jan gestre
On 8/9/06, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikolas Britton wrote: On 8/6/06, Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this one adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and the summary reports now reflect

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Garrett Cooper wrote: Also, maybe that person from Armenia installed the script in a distribution that's included in a virtual image (vmware comes to mind), and he's loading it on a bunch of different machines behind a (virtual) NAT or something... just a thought to

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Igor Robul wrote: On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 09:30:42PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Could create problems long term .. one thing I will be using the IPs to do is: SELECT ip, count(1) FROM systems GROUP BY ip ORDER BY count DESC; to look for any 'abnormalities' like todays

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, jan gestre wrote: /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics btw is the syntax correct? monthly_statistics_enable=yes monthly_statistics_report_devices=yes or should the yes be YES ? syntax is correct, and you are now on the countries list :) thx Marc G.

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Vahan Yerkanian
Marc G. Fournier wrote: If that's the case, those numbers should come back again in Sept ... but, the hostnames for the odd ones were all: http://www.domain.am; with the quotes included, which seemed a really odd value for 'hostname' to have produced :) Looks like a directadmin host.

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Nikolas Britton
On 8/9/06, Igor Robul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 09:30:42PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Could create problems long term .. one thing I will be using the IPs to do is: SELECT ip, count(1) FROM systems GROUP BY ip ORDER BY count DESC; to look for any 'abnormalities'

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Igor Robul
On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 05:54:26AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Except that you are disclosing that each and every time you send out an email, or hit a web site ... :) Original poster concerned about this because he does not normaly use his servers for this kind of work, if I had understood

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Igor Robul
On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 05:41:55AM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: # ifconfig | sha256 cbcc2f55a340c248af7e8a10871150d827af11d7051bbc782eefa04b0603248b # ifconfig | sha1 b607b9d45e6ad40c02ab20800e0d70245ab6db68 # ifconfig | md5 22a2a3eca61166fb113f1a688b3dd842 # ifconfig | cksum 3977021799

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Nikolas Britton
On 8/9/06, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/9/06, Igor Robul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 09:30:42PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Could create problems long term .. one thing I will be using the IPs to do is: SELECT ip, count(1) FROM systems GROUP BY

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Paul Schmehl
Someone mentioned having output from the script so you would know it was running. This patch would do that, if you want to add that functionality. --- 300.statistics.orig Wed Aug 9 09:49:35 2006 +++ 300.statistics Wed Aug 9 09:54:17 2006 @@ -44,6 +44,7 @@ SYS=`/usr/bin/uname -r`

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Paul Schmehl
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Igor Robul wrote: On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 09:30:42PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Could create problems long term .. one thing I will be using the IPs to do is: SELECT ip, count(1) FROM systems GROUP BY ip ORDER BY count DESC; to look for any

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Paul Schmehl
Igor Robul wrote: The only down side is it still can be faked, just like everything else. IP from which connection is made cannot be faked, at least I dont know how to fake it. So there is at least one unfakable part of key. But there is no real need to keep real IP in database, for privacy

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Paul Schmehl wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Igor Robul wrote: On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 09:30:42PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Could create problems long term .. one thing I will be using the IPs to do is: SELECT ip, count(1) FROM systems GROUP BY

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Paul Schmehl wrote: Igor Robul wrote: The only down side is it still can be faked, just like everything else. IP from which connection is made cannot be faked, at least I dont know how to fake it. So there is at least one unfakable part of key. But there is no real need

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Vahan Yerkanian wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: If that's the case, those numbers should come back again in Sept ... but, the hostnames for the odd ones were all: http://www.domain.am; with the quotes included, which seemed a really odd value for 'hostname' to have

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
With minor mods, committed ... I moved bsdstats.hub.org to a variable, and added an 'echo' for when the stats, or a part of them, is disabled, that way if this ever does get into the base system, ppl reading monthly run output will know that they exist, and how to turn it on ... thx ... On

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Howard Jones
Marc G. Fournier wrote: The uniqueness is a combination of IP+hostname ... again, as one pointed out with PCBSD, this isn't always necessarily the case, but, IMHO, that is a flaw of PCBSD having all hosts on the same network using the same hostname ... That's the nice thing with the

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Howard Jones wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: The uniqueness is a combination of IP+hostname ... again, as one pointed out with PCBSD, this isn't always necessarily the case, but, IMHO, that is a flaw of PCBSD having all hosts on the same network using the same hostname ...

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Tuesday 08 August 2006 9:17 am, Marc G. Fournier wrote: But, there is no such ting as an 'index number' ... when everyone reports in next month, for instance, there is no 'number' that will be re-used for them that matches something used this month ... What about: indexnumber=$(md5 -q

Up to v2.2 ... ( Was: Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ... )

2006-08-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --On August 9, 2006 9:32:18 AM +1000 Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/08/2006 9:16 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Can you tell me exactly what you do with those two pieces of data? Is there any way that information would be accessible

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Howard Jones
Marc G. Fournier wrote: Right, and the bad thing is if yu alias another IP on that device, the hash totally changes, so we see that one host now as being two different ones :) That's why we disqualified using ifconfig right at the beginning ... But didn't you say that you effectively wipe

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Howard Jones wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: Right, and the bad thing is if yu alias another IP on that device, the hash totally changes, so we see that one host now as being two different ones :) That's why we disqualified using ifconfig right at the beginning ... But

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Matthew Seaman
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Howard Jones wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: Right, and the bad thing is if yu alias another IP on that device, the hash totally changes, so we see that one host now as being two different ones :) That's why we disqualified using ifconfig right

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen
Nikolas Britton wrote: I still like my idea the best for unique keys. It's a better way to detect hosts behind NATs, here it is again, four versions to pick from: # ifconfig | sha256 cbcc2f55a340c248af7e8a10871150d827af11d7051bbc782eefa04b0603248b # ifconfig | sha1

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen
Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: Why not hash just the hostname? Or MAC-address? Of course these could Disregard this. I see that the discussion has moved on. I'm with Matthew Seaman's suggested server generated id-string. Svein Halvor signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This problem is intractable: any scheme you can think of to generate a unique identifying number on a random host out there on the net will either fail to actually be unique, or suffer from mutating over time as machine configuration changes.

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Garance A Drosehn
At 9:32 AM +1000 8/9/06, Antony Mawer wrote: What if we improved upon this - if instead of storing the hostname and IP address, we stored a one-way hash of this information? OpenSSH in recent versions takes the same approach with its authorized_keys files... A scattered list of ideas: It

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 03:16:29PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: In response to Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This problem is intractable: any scheme you can think of to generate a unique identifying number on a random host out there on the net will either fail to actually be unique, or

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Nikolas Britton
On 8/9/06, Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Paul Schmehl wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Igor Robul wrote: On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 09:30:42PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Could create problems long term .. one thing I will be using the IPs

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Antony Mawer
On 8/08/2006 1:56 PM, David Schulz wrote: Ok i love the Idea of this, and will have all my machines running that in no time. Just make the Site look more sleek :) I will be hopefully the first one representing China on that list as well (brag :-) I'm working on it -- unfortunately have been

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Matthew Seaman
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: I think it would help uptake if when the bsdstats job is first run, it issues you with a 'registered system number' -- then all of the folks with low numbered systems get bragging rights... Actually, there is no registered

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Mikhail Goriachev
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Chris wrote: Just my .02 worth - that Sparc64 listing Is mine Wheee! There are two Sparc64 listings ... both yours? The 8 in Panama are all mine :) Where's Chile? I just added 4 boxes and they're not listed. Excellent job Marc!

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread David Schulz
Hello, i have started to run this script , but for some reason i dont show up in the list. or maybe i do, but at least not the country from which i am submitting, china, has still zero entries. how can this be? my ip does resolve to a host in china when using some geoip lookup service...

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Mikhail Goriachev wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Chris wrote: Just my .02 worth - that Sparc64 listing Is mine Wheee! There are two Sparc64 listings ... both yours? The 8 in Panama are all mine :) Where's Chile? I just added 4 boxes and

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, David Schulz wrote: Hello, i have started to run this script , but for some reason i dont show up in the list. or maybe i do, but at least not the country from which i am submitting, china, has still zero entries. how can this be? my ip does resolve to a host in china

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread David Schulz
cool yes, now i see it also, but it wasn't there before right after i executed my script. is there maybe some sort of delay before the data appears? On Aug 8, 2006, at 4:01 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, David Schulz wrote: Hello, i have started to run this script , but

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Mikhail Goriachev
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Mikhail Goriachev wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Chris wrote: Just my .02 worth - that Sparc64 listing Is mine Wheee! There are two Sparc64 listings ... both yours? The 8 in Panama are all mine :) Where's Chile? I

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Igor Robul
Hello, I think there is at least one error in country naming: should be Kazakhstan instead of Kazakstan. Our friends from Kazakhstan of course can correct me. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Gerhard Schmidt
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 12:42:27AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this one adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and the summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in use for those deciding to report

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Tuesday 08 August 2006 04:22, David Schulz wrote: cool yes, now i see it also, but it wasn't there before right after i executed my script. is there maybe some sort of delay before the data appears? On Aug 8, 2006, at 4:01 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, David Schulz

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: I think it would help uptake if when the bsdstats job is first run, it issues you with a 'registered system number' -- then all of the folks with low numbered systems get bragging

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, David Schulz wrote: cool yes, now i see it also, but it wasn't there before right after i executed my script. is there maybe some sort of delay before the data appears? Yup, but only as the database grows ... I'm using the pear GeoIP module to determine country, of

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Karol Kwiatkowski
On 07/08/2006 05:42, Marc G. Fournier wrote: I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this one adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and the summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in use for those deciding to report ... This Phase of the

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Matthew Seaman
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: I think it would help uptake if when the bsdstats job is first run, it issues you with a 'registered system number' -- then all of the folks with low

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: On 07/08/2006 05:42, Marc G. Fournier wrote: I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this one adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and the summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in use for those

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 12:42:27AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this one adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and the summary reports now reflect the

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Paul Schmehl
Marc, I have a couple of questions. You use hostname and IP as a unique identifier for each host. For that reason, I have not submitted any of our systems. We use FreeBSD for sensitive security-related tasks, and we're loath to reveal that information. (When I submit or update ports, I

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Vahan Yerkanian
Paul Schmehl wrote: Finally, it looks like your number one problem is going to be maintainence. Right now you're showing a .x and a F.x release. Not sure if that's tampering or what, but it's obviously not legit. You also have a sudden influx of hosts from Armenia. Again, don't know if

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Vahan Yerkanian
Paul Schmehl wrote: Finally, it looks like your number one problem is going to be maintainence. Right now you're showing a .x and a F.x release. Not sure if that's tampering or what, but it's obviously not legit. You also have a sudden influx of hosts from Armenia. Again, don't know if

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Paul Schmehl
Vahan Yerkanian wrote: Paul Schmehl wrote: Finally, it looks like your number one problem is going to be maintainence. Right now you're showing a .x and a F.x release. Not sure if that's tampering or what, but it's obviously not legit. You also have a sudden influx of hosts from Armenia.

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Paul Schmehl
Vahan Yerkanian wrote: Paul Schmehl wrote: Finally, it looks like your number one problem is going to be maintainence. Right now you're showing a .x and a F.x release. Not sure if that's tampering or what, but it's obviously not legit. You also have a sudden influx of hosts from Armenia.

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Nikolas Britton
On 8/6/06, Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this one adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and the summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in use for those deciding to report ... This Phase of

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Chris
Nikolas Britton wrote: On 8/6/06, Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this one adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and the summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in use for those deciding to

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Nikolas Britton
On 8/8/06, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikolas Britton wrote: On 8/6/06, Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this one adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and the summary reports now reflect

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Paul Schmehl wrote: Marc, I have a couple of questions. You use hostname and IP as a unique identifier for each host. For that reason, I have not submitted any of our systems. We use FreeBSD for sensitive security-related tasks, and we're loath to reveal that

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Vahan Yerkanian wrote: Paul Schmehl wrote: Finally, it looks like your number one problem is going to be maintainence. Right now you're showing a .x and a F.x release. Not sure if that's tampering or what, but it's obviously not legit. You also have a sudden influx of

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Vahan Yerkanian wrote: Paul Schmehl wrote: Finally, it looks like your number one problem is going to be maintainence. Right now you're showing a .x and a F.x release. Not sure if that's tampering or what, but it's obviously not legit. You also have a sudden influx of

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: How about some uptime stats as well? No. We agreed we would not track people. Again, if we add uptime states, it would be a *seperate* opt-in option ... the only quasi-not-opt-in (you still have to tell it to run the script) is the uname

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: Also why not track the ones with no driver attached... you should still be able to tell what the device is. I was looking at it from a 'what drivers / hardware is in use' not 'what hardware is available' ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Antony Mawer
On 9/08/2006 9:16 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Can you tell me exactly what you do with those two pieces of data? Is there any way that information would be accessible from the internet? Absolutely nothing else we do with it ... it just gives us a unique key to work with ... in fact, assuming

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Antony Mawer wrote: On 9/08/2006 9:16 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Can you tell me exactly what you do with those two pieces of data? Is there any way that information would be accessible from the internet? Absolutely nothing else we do with it ... it just gives us a

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: Anyhow, how about the following little enhancement. This lists the CPUs on the system pretending they are CPU0, CPU1, ... devices. The URI escape stuff should be automatically decoded by PHP without any extra coding required. Perfect, added to

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Nikolas Britton
On 8/8/06, Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: Anyhow, how about the following little enhancement. This lists the CPUs on the system pretending they are CPU0, CPU1, ... devices. The URI escape stuff should be automatically decoded by PHP

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread pauls
--On August 9, 2006 9:32:18 AM +1000 Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/08/2006 9:16 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Can you tell me exactly what you do with those two pieces of data? Is there any way that information would be accessible from the internet? Absolutely nothing else we do

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: On 8/8/06, Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: Anyhow, how about the following little enhancement. This lists the CPUs on the system pretending they are CPU0, CPU1, ... devices. The URI escape

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Antony Mawer
On 9/08/2006 1:49 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: PCBSD# uname -a FreeBSD PCBSD.localhost 6.1-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p2 #0: Fri Jun 16 09:21:34 PDT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PCBSDv1.11 i386 Unfortunately, if they are *all* the

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Antony Mawer wrote: On 9/08/2006 1:49 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: PCBSD# uname -a FreeBSD PCBSD.localhost 6.1-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p2 #0: Fri Jun 16 09:21:34 PDT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PCBSDv1.11

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread questions
While I'm definately interested in the statistical reporting, I do have one suggestion: Add a random sleep time to the update. Otherwise, the reporting server is gonna get HAMMERED once a month, assuming this project gains any kind of momentum. A random sleep timer at the beginning of the

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread Daniel Gerzo
Hello Marc, Monday, August 7, 2006, 5:42:27 AM, you wrote: I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this one adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and the summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in use for those deciding to report ... I've

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I'm definately interested in the statistical reporting, I do have one suggestion: Add a random sleep time to the update. Otherwise, the reporting server is gonna get HAMMERED once a month, assuming this project gains any kind of momentum.

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread Mark Kane
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006, at 00:42:27 -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this one adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and the summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in use for those deciding to report ...

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread Chris
Mark Kane wrote: On Mon, Aug 07, 2006, at 00:42:27 -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this one adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and the summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in use for those deciding

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread Chris
Chris wrote: Mark Kane wrote: On Mon, Aug 07, 2006, at 00:42:27 -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this one adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and the summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in use for

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Mark Kane wrote: On Mon, Aug 07, 2006, at 00:42:27 -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this one adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and the summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Chris wrote: Just my .02 worth - that Sparc64 listing Is mine Wheee! There are two Sparc64 listings ... both yours? The 8 in Panama are all mine :) Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread Mark Kane
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006, at 17:18:04 -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Refresh the page, I've add a new table since, which I believe is what you are asking for :) Exactly. Just a couple minutes after I hit send, I saw that there and thought wow, that was fast! Then again I didn't see my post on the

Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Mark Kane wrote: On Mon, Aug 07, 2006, at 17:18:04 -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Refresh the page, I've add a new table since, which I believe is what you are asking for :) Exactly. Just a couple minutes after I hit send, I saw that there and thought wow, that was fast!

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