Re: [Freedos-user] Help instal freedos

[stephane janisson]

 Hi Eric, thanks for your help
I created the CD (it contains several folders).
If I try to launch it from a virtual machine, the installation starts well. On
the other hand if I do it on a real PC no execution is active (I did modify
the Bios to use the cd/DVD drive first)
Do you have any idea the source of my problem?
Thank you

Le lun. 21 sept. 2020 à 12:16, Eric Auer  a écrit :

>
> Hi!
>
> To install FreeDOS, you have to boot from the CD :-)
>
> Note that you have to use the ISO to create the CD:
> You must not put the ISO on the CD as a single file.
> When using the ISO the right way, you will see many
> files on the CD after burning it.
>
> Question to everybody: Do we have instructions for
> burning CD in Windows 10 on our website?
>
> I suggest to use FreeDOS 1.3 already, but you can also
> use FreeDOS 1.2 http://wiki.freedos.org/install/
>
> > I have downloaded the install CD on the site but I can’t
> > find any executable?
> > Is it possible to do what I want and if so how?
>
> Please check the user manual of your computer to find
> out how to boot from CD: You usually have to press a
> special key while booting while the CD is in the drive
> or have to change the boot configuration in the BIOS
> CMOS setup to give CD / DVD priority over harddisk.
>
> Regards, Eric
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Help instal freedos

[Eric Auer]

Hi!

To install FreeDOS, you have to boot from the CD :-)

Note that you have to use the ISO to create the CD:
You must not put the ISO on the CD as a single file.
When using the ISO the right way, you will see many
files on the CD after burning it.

Question to everybody: Do we have instructions for
burning CD in Windows 10 on our website?

I suggest to use FreeDOS 1.3 already, but you can also
use FreeDOS 1.2 http://wiki.freedos.org/install/

> I have downloaded the install CD on the site but I can’t
> find any executable?
> Is it possible to do what I want and if so how?

Please check the user manual of your computer to find
out how to boot from CD: You usually have to press a
special key while booting while the CD is in the drive
or have to change the boot configuration in the BIOS
CMOS setup to give CD / DVD priority over harddisk.

Regards, Eric



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[Freedos-user] Help instal freedos

[stephane janisson]

 Hello everyone
I currently have a PC in win10, I want to remove windows and put freedos
instead. (I don’t want an emulator)
I have downloaded the instal CD on the site but I can’t find any executable?
Is it possible to do what I want and if so how?

Thank you for your help
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[Freedos-user] help with QEMU command-line

[Joseph Norton]

Hi listers:

I am running FreeDOS in VMWare player and it's working ok.  I did want to try 
it in QEMU, and it seems to run ok, but, I need a little help with the 
command-line.

What I need is to have a port com1 on the DOS machine which will redirect to 
COM4 on my Windows host so as to run a screen reader which uses a speech 
synthesizer on com1.

I use a program called com0com which gives me a pair of virtual ports, one of 
which, com4, I send date to from the DOS machine, which is sent out and 
received on com3 by a program which emulates a speech synthesizer.

That’s just for background.  Again, all I need is for the DOS VM to have a com1 
which comes out to COM4 on the host.

The QEMU documentation seems a little vague on how to do this, and, nothing 
I've tried works, so far.  Any QEMU experts out there?

Thanks!

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Re: [Freedos-user] help?

[Karen Lewellen]

well,   yes.
You must  first  format and partition  the drive, then place data on it. 
What sort of drive not ready error?




On Sat, 11 May 2019, EndermanOrea wrote:


It was able to detect the usb drive, but it said the drive was not ready. Do I 
need to format it a certain way?

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From: Karen Lewellen
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2019 12:02 PM
To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS.
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] help?

I am guessing you did not understand the question.
granted I cannot  speak for freedos, I run a later edition of ms dOS.
However, if  you  are using a USB drive that your DOs USB recognizes, then
the   drive letter where your games  are  placed should be present.
simply change to it and play   them as  normal.
If there is more to your question, you may wish to provide details.
Karen



On Sat, 11 May 2019, Rugxulo wrote:


Hi,

On Thu, May 9, 2019, 12:56 PM EndermanOrea  wrote:


how do i use a usb drive with FreeDOS to play DOS games?



On Windows, use RUFUS to create a bootable USB:
http://rufus.ie








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Re: [Freedos-user] help?

[EndermanOrea]

It was able to detect the usb drive, but it said the drive was not ready. Do I 
need to format it a certain way?

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Karen Lewellen
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2019 12:02 PM
To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS.
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] help?

I am guessing you did not understand the question.
granted I cannot  speak for freedos, I run a later edition of ms dOS.
However, if  you  are using a USB drive that your DOs USB recognizes, then 
the   drive letter where your games  are  placed should be present. 
simply change to it and play   them as  normal.
If there is more to your question, you may wish to provide details.
Karen



On Sat, 11 May 2019, Rugxulo wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2019, 12:56 PM EndermanOrea  wrote:
>
>> how do i use a usb drive with FreeDOS to play DOS games?
>>
>
> On Windows, use RUFUS to create a bootable USB:
> http://rufus.ie
>
>>
>


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Re: [Freedos-user] help?

[Karen Lewellen]

I am guessing you did not understand the question.
granted I cannot  speak for freedos, I run a later edition of ms dOS.
However, if  you  are using a USB drive that your DOs USB recognizes, then 
the   drive letter where your games  are  placed should be present. 
simply change to it and play   them as  normal.

If there is more to your question, you may wish to provide details.
Karen



On Sat, 11 May 2019, Rugxulo wrote:


Hi,

On Thu, May 9, 2019, 12:56 PM EndermanOrea  wrote:


how do i use a usb drive with FreeDOS to play DOS games?



On Windows, use RUFUS to create a bootable USB:
http://rufus.ie








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Re: [Freedos-user] help?

[EndermanOrea]

I meant use a usb drive that has dos games on it. Not a bootable usb drive with 
FreeDOS.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Rugxulo
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2019 8:43 AM
To: freedos-user
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] help?

Hi,
On Thu, May 9, 2019, 12:56 PM EndermanOrea  wrote:
how do i use a usb drive with FreeDOS to play DOS games?

On Windows, use RUFUS to create a bootable USB:
http://rufus.ie

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Re: [Freedos-user] help?

[Rugxulo]

Hi,

On Thu, May 9, 2019, 12:56 PM EndermanOrea  wrote:

> how do i use a usb drive with FreeDOS to play DOS games?
>

On Windows, use RUFUS to create a bootable USB:
http://rufus.ie

>
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how do i use a usb drive with FreeDOS to play DOS games?
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Re: [Freedos-user] help me

[dmccunney]

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 7:56 AM, Jim Hall  wrote:
> If I understand your question, you want a DOS command to do arithmetic. You
> should look up Foxcalc. However, I can't remember if it also supports DOS
> command line arithmetic, or if it only works in app mode.

The 4DOS command processor provided as an alternative to COMMAND.COM
can do arithmetic with the @eval built-in.
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Re: [Freedos-user] help me

[Jim Hall]

If I understand your question, you want a DOS command to do arithmetic. You
should look up Foxcalc. However, I can't remember if it also supports DOS
command line arithmetic, or if it only works in app mode.


On Wednesday, February 17, 2016, Mehdi Pishro 
wrote:

> Help me fo sum a
>
> TYPE:1=2 RLS DISP=*5*
>
> +
>
> TYPE:1=2 RLS DISP=5
>
> =
>
> TYPE:1=2 RLS DISP=10
>
> For dos command
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:57 AM, Mehdi Pishro  > wrote:
>
>> Help me fo sum a
>>
>> TYPE:1=2 RLS DISP=*5*
>>
>> +
>>
>> TYPE:1=2 RLS DISP=5
>>
>> =
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>> TYPE:1=2 RLS DISP=10
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Re: [Freedos-user] help me

[Mehdi Pishro]

Help me fo sum a

TYPE:1=2 RLS DISP=*5*

+

TYPE:1=2 RLS DISP=5

=

TYPE:1=2 RLS DISP=10

For dos command

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:57 AM, Mehdi Pishro 
wrote:

> Help me fo sum a
>
> TYPE:1=2 RLS DISP=*5*
>
> +
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>
> =
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> For dos command
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Help me fo sum a

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help with installing FreeDOS on second partition

[Marlon]

Thanks for that!

On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 6:22 AM, Rugxulo [via FreeDOS] <
ml-node+s10956n23527...@n7.nabble.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I know this thread is old, but on the (very rare) chance that this tip
> helps, 
>
> On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Rugxulo <[hidden email]
> > wrote:
>
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Marlon <[hidden email]
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I've decided to follow the steps here:
> >> http://bitcheese.net/freedos%2Finstall
> >
> >> Then he goes on to say:
> >> ---
> >> Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
> >>
> >> Add the following:
> >>
> >> title FreeDOS
> >> rootnoverify (hd1,2)
> >> chainloader +1
> >> makeactive
> >>
> >> Where (hd1,2) is your FAT32 partition.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> but there is no /boot/grub/menu.lst anymore in GRUB 2, it is replaced
> by
> >> /boot/grub/grub.cfg ,
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/DualBoot/FreeDOS
>
> "
> In case of a newer (in /etc/grub.d/40_custom) :
>
> menuentry "FreeDOS (flash bios)" {
> insmod fat
> set root='(hd0,msdos2)'
> linux16 /memdisk
> initrd16 /fdboot.img
> }
>
> and run update-grub afterwards
> "
>
> >> which warns users NOT TO EDIT,
> >> "It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
> >>  from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub"
> >>
> >> So I'm guessing I should add the 4 lines above, as suggested by the
> author,
> >> to /etc/default/grub , am I correct?
>
> There's also this, although it doesn't mention GRUB, instead
> preferring GRML Live Linux (grml2usb and replacing FreeDOS Balder
> .img):
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/FlashBIOS
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Re: [Freedos-user] Help with installing FreeDOS on second partition

[Rugxulo]

Hi,

I know this thread is old, but on the (very rare) chance that this tip
helps, 

On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Rugxulo  wrote:
>
> On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Marlon  wrote:
>>
>> I've decided to follow the steps here:
>> http://bitcheese.net/freedos%2Finstall
>
>> Then he goes on to say:
>> ---
>> Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
>>
>> Add the following:
>>
>> title FreeDOS
>> rootnoverify (hd1,2)
>> chainloader +1
>> makeactive
>>
>> Where (hd1,2) is your FAT32 partition.
>>
>> --
>>
>> but there is no /boot/grub/menu.lst anymore in GRUB 2, it is replaced by
>> /boot/grub/grub.cfg ,

https://wiki.debian.org/DualBoot/FreeDOS

"
In case of a newer (in /etc/grub.d/40_custom) :

menuentry "FreeDOS (flash bios)" {
insmod fat
set root='(hd0,msdos2)'
linux16 /memdisk
initrd16 /fdboot.img
}

and run update-grub afterwards
"

>> which warns users NOT TO EDIT,
>> "It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
>>  from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub"
>>
>> So I'm guessing I should add the 4 lines above, as suggested by the author,
>> to /etc/default/grub , am I correct?

There's also this, although it doesn't mention GRUB, instead
preferring GRML Live Linux (grml2usb and replacing FreeDOS Balder
.img):

https://wiki.debian.org/FlashBIOS

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help with installing FreeDOS on second partition

[Rugxulo]

Hi,

On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Marlon  wrote:
> Thanks guys! Sorry for the late response, and Eric I will consider the
> xharbour, thank you!

I never used it, but that old XHarbour is (AFAIK) abandoned (for DOS)
and somewhat hard to use (and IIRC needs a C compiler for backend).
Don't pin too many hopes on it.

> For now though, if anyone can enlighten me further..
>
> I've decided to follow the steps here:
> http://bitcheese.net/freedos%2Finstall

I found this one a while back. While I didn't test it, it seemed quite
exhaustive. Yet another option for you to try:

http://joelinoff.com/blog/?p=431

> The author shows us the "pioneer way" and the "optimal way."  I'm going for
> the optimal way, but instead of using unetbootin like he suggests, I chose
> to burn my downloaded "fdbasecd.iso" to a dvd+rw.

IIRC, the only "problem" (or advantage??) with UNetBootIn (unlike
RUFUS) is that it doesn't save persistent changes.

> I think the dvd boots ok.  There was a prompt like:
> :boot
> or something like that in which I can type something.  Is this the part
> where I type "sys d:" (without quotation marks) ?

>From floppy to hard disk, the traditional syntax is (IIRC) "sys a: c:".

> And do I really type d: ? How do I know if my fat32 partition is d: ?

"fdisk /status" might help.

> Then he goes on to say:
> ---
> Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
>
> Add the following:
>
> title FreeDOS
> rootnoverify (hd1,2)
> chainloader +1
> makeactive
>
> Where (hd1,2) is your FAT32 partition.
>
> --
>
> but there is no /boot/grub/menu.lst anymore in GRUB 2, it is replaced by
> /boot/grub/grub.cfg ,

First, read all of the man pages, texinfo docs, FAQs, mailing lists.
Sorry, but most of us here aren't heavy users of GRUB(2). If all else
fails, you'll have to find someone who is, and ask them for further
advice.

> which warns users NOT TO EDIT,
> "It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
>  from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub"
>
> So I'm guessing I should add the 4 lines above, as suggested by the author,
> to /etc/default/grub , am I correct?

If what you're already doing isn't working, then yes, you must try
something else.   :-)

> What about (hd1,2)? Where do I see my own version of that? I intend to
> install freedos in /dev/sda2, if that helps...

Keep trying different values until it works (e.g. hd0,1). Tedious but
sometimes effective.

> What about chainloader +1 ? Do I copy as is?

Dunno! Try and see.

> That's it for now.
> Thank you so much!!!

P.S. I'm not criticizing your choices, but sometimes we can
overcomplicate things for no advantage. There are many ways to install
FreeDOS, and if one doesn't work for you, try something else. Don't
try too hard to get a certain specific setup. Any setup is better than
nothing. Honestly, I'm still in favor of RUFUS or UNetBootIn (or using
virtual machines, e.g. QEMU), if only for simplicity.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help with installing FreeDOS on second partition

[Eric Auer]

Hi :-)

>> Thanks guys! Sorry for the late response, and Eric I will consider the
>> xharbour, thank you!
> 
> I never used it, but that old XHarbour is (AFAIK) abandoned (for DOS)
> and somewhat hard to use (and IIRC needs a C compiler for backend).
> Don't pin too many hopes on it.

Well Clipper has been abandoned since 1997, while the most
recent updates of Harbour were in 2011 and there is xHarbour:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipper_%28programming_language%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHarbour

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbour_compiler

Even more fresh is the commercial implementation FlagShip:

http://www.fship.com/

As Clipper is a programming language, it is not overly surprising
that you have to know about compiling. On the other hand, there
are people who think MS Access is a database and who think that
SQL programming is complicated... ;-)

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help with installing FreeDOS on second partition

[Marlon]

Thanks guys! Sorry for the late response, and Eric I will consider the
xharbour, thank you!
For now though, if anyone can enlighten me further..

I've decided to follow the steps here:
http://bitcheese.net/freedos%2Finstall

The author shows us the "pioneer way" and the "optimal way."  I'm going for
the optimal way, but instead of using unetbootin like he suggests, I chose
to burn my downloaded "fdbasecd.iso" to a dvd+rw.

I think the dvd boots ok.  There was a prompt like:
:boot
or something like that in which I can type something.  Is this the part
where I type "sys d:" (without quotation marks) ?
And do I really type d: ? How do I know if my fat32 partition is d: ?

Then he goes on to say:
---
Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst

Add the following:

title FreeDOS
rootnoverify (hd1,2)
chainloader +1
makeactive

Where (hd1,2) is your FAT32 partition.

--

but there is no /boot/grub/menu.lst anymore in GRUB 2, it is replaced by
*/boot/grub/grub.cfg , *
which warns users NOT TO EDIT,
"It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
 from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub"

So I'm guessing I should add the 4 lines above, as suggested by the author,
to /etc/default/grub , am I correct?

What about (hd1,2)? Where do I see my own version of that? I intend to
install freedos in /dev/sda2, if that helps...

What about chainloader +1 ? Do I copy as is?

That's it for now.
Thank you so much!!!


On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Rugxulo [via FreeDOS] <
ml-node+s10956n23192...@n7.nabble.com> wrote:

> Hi again,
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 5:16 AM, Eric Auer <[hidden email]
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >> 2.  I can run an old Clipper program but the program has to be in the
> same
> >> drive/partition as FreeDOS; I cannot access other drive/partition when
> I'm
> >> in FreeDOS.  Is this normal?
> >
> > This might be not normal. DOS only supports FAT partitions,
> > so if your other partitions are NTFS or Linux, it is normal
> > that DOS can not access them without additional drivers.
> >
> >> 3.  When I'm using the Clipper program, I can print just fine.  But I
> cannot
> >> enter data.  I get the DOS ERROR 4, something like that.  When running
> the
> >> Clipper program in command prompt in Windows 7 and I get the DOS ERROR
> 4,
> >> all I have to do is edit the autoexec.nt and config.nt in
> windows\system32.
> >>  What would be the equivalent of that in FreeDOS?
>
> Windows 7 and FreeDOS do not cooperate at all. So editing anything in
> %windir%\system32 (like autoexec.nt or config.nt) don't affect real
> DOS at all, only Microsoft's NTVDM.
>
> > I do not know what error 4 is and you have not explained in
> > which way you edit the *.nt files. What do you add, remove
> > or change in those files? You can do the same in DOS, but I
> > think you do not have any config yet - see question 1. Note
> > that the drive which is "F:" while you installed DOS, if I
> > understand your mail correctly, probably is drive "C:" when
> > you boot DOS. As you also seem to have Windows 7 on the same
> > computer, I guess that your Windows partitions are all NTFS.
>
> All Windows (since Vista, AFAIK) refuse to boot off of FAT partitions
> at all. They can still access (read/write) them later, but most
> installs don't have any (for security??). So NTFS usually hogs the
> entire physical disk. Thus, you've have to shrink/resize the NTFS to
> make room, then create a separate FAT. If you don't have a FAT
> partition, DOS won't boot at all. DOS can't read NTFS.
>
>
> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/shrink-and-extend-ntfs-volumes-in-windows/
>
> But honestly, I think it would be easier (for now) to just use RUFUS
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Re: [Freedos-user] Help with installing FreeDOS on second partition

[Rugxulo]

Hi,

(I know Eric already answered some of this, but it's too tedious to
avoid redundancy here.)

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 4:43 AM, Marlon  wrote:
>
> Rugxulo!!! Thanks for replying! Before anything else, why didn't I receive
> your reply thru email??  I use Lubuntu and when I ask something thru the
> Lubuntu mailing list, I get answers thru email!

You mean why didn't you (also) get a private response? I assume
everything is done via mailing list, for simplicity.

> Anyway, I've managed to install and boot from freedos using the tips here:
> http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/freedos_no_removable.html
>
> If you will scroll down a bit, you will find that he suggests the following
> commands:
>
> ***
> F:
> cd FDOS
> bin\sys  F:  C:\FDOSBOOT.BIN  BOOTONLY
>
> copy BIN\KERNEL32.SYS F:\KERNEL.SYS
>
> cd NLS
> set lang=EN
> makecmd
> copy COMMAND.COM F:\
> 
>
> It's not that important to me that I understand the above, but if you could
> explain it in real simple terms, that would be great.
>
> What does "bin\sys  F:  C:\FDOSBOOT.BIN  BOOTONLY" do?  I get an error or
> something from it, forgot what it was.

http://www.bootablecd.de/FreeDOS/help/en/hhstndrd/base/sys.htm

I think it's (only) saving the boot sector to file for you (useful for
some boot managers).

> I sort of understand this: copy BIN\KERNEL32.SYS F:\KERNEL.SYS
> That copies kernel32.sys from bin into the root directory, but it would be
> renamed kernel.sys .  Why?

Presumably "kernel32" means FAT32 enabled. Some people don't need (or
want) that since they only use FAT12 or FAT16.

> I also don't understand "makecmd" and I think it also gave me an error
> message.  I've managed to put command.com on the root directory, though.

Root is okay by default, yes. Normally this would be specified in
SHELL in CONFIG.SYS (or COMSPEC later).

> As I've said, it's not really important to me.  But here's my main problem
> and I hope you know a solution.
>
> 1.  When I boot into FreeDOS, it almost always asks me to enter the date and
> time.  Is this normal?

Like Eric said, this is because you don't have (FD)CONFIG.SYS and
AUTOEXEC.BAT files.

http://www.bootablecd.de/FreeDOS/help/en/hhstndrd/batch/autoexec.htm
http://www.bootablecd.de/FreeDOS/help/en/hhstndrd/cnfigsys/index.htm

> 2.  I can run an old Clipper program but the program has to be in the same
> drive/partition as FreeDOS; I cannot access other drive/partition when I'm
> in FreeDOS.  Is this normal?

What other valid drives are there? Try running something like Eric's VOLINFXL:

http://ericauer.cosmodata.virtuaserver.com.br/soft/specials/volinfxl-disk-usage-info.zip

Presumably this is something simple like (lacking) CONFIG.SYS
"LASTDRIVE=E" (default, can be made larger).

> 3.  When I'm using the Clipper program, I can print just fine.  But I cannot
> enter data.  I get the DOS ERROR 4, something like that.  When running the
> Clipper program in command prompt in Windows 7 and I get the DOS ERROR 4,
> all I have to do is edit the autoexec.nt and config.nt in windows\system32.
>  What would be the equivalent of that in FreeDOS?

Like Eric said, you probably need to set (CONFIG.SYS) "FILES=100" (or
whatever suitable number).

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help with installing FreeDOS on second partition

[Rugxulo]

Hi again,

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 5:16 AM, Eric Auer  wrote:
>
>> 2.  I can run an old Clipper program but the program has to be in the same
>> drive/partition as FreeDOS; I cannot access other drive/partition when I'm
>> in FreeDOS.  Is this normal?
>
> This might be not normal. DOS only supports FAT partitions,
> so if your other partitions are NTFS or Linux, it is normal
> that DOS can not access them without additional drivers.
>
>> 3.  When I'm using the Clipper program, I can print just fine.  But I cannot
>> enter data.  I get the DOS ERROR 4, something like that.  When running the
>> Clipper program in command prompt in Windows 7 and I get the DOS ERROR 4,
>> all I have to do is edit the autoexec.nt and config.nt in windows\system32.
>>  What would be the equivalent of that in FreeDOS?

Windows 7 and FreeDOS do not cooperate at all. So editing anything in
%windir%\system32 (like autoexec.nt or config.nt) don't affect real
DOS at all, only Microsoft's NTVDM.

> I do not know what error 4 is and you have not explained in
> which way you edit the *.nt files. What do you add, remove
> or change in those files? You can do the same in DOS, but I
> think you do not have any config yet - see question 1. Note
> that the drive which is "F:" while you installed DOS, if I
> understand your mail correctly, probably is drive "C:" when
> you boot DOS. As you also seem to have Windows 7 on the same
> computer, I guess that your Windows partitions are all NTFS.

All Windows (since Vista, AFAIK) refuse to boot off of FAT partitions
at all. They can still access (read/write) them later, but most
installs don't have any (for security??). So NTFS usually hogs the
entire physical disk. Thus, you've have to shrink/resize the NTFS to
make room, then create a separate FAT. If you don't have a FAT
partition, DOS won't boot at all. DOS can't read NTFS.

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/shrink-and-extend-ntfs-volumes-in-windows/

But honestly, I think it would be easier (for now) to just use RUFUS
(or similar) for bootable USB:

http://rufus.akeo.ie/

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help with installing FreeDOS on second partition

[Eric Auer]

Hi Marlon,

>> Why that old one? A quick double-check online shows "fd11src.iso" as newest:
>>
>> http://www.freedos.org/download/
>>
>>> mount it on a virtual drive, installed it in the second partition...

> Anyway, I've managed to install and boot from freedos using the tips here:
> http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/freedos_no_removable.html

> bin\sys  F:  C:\FDOSBOOT.BIN  BOOTONLY
> 
> copy BIN\KERNEL32.SYS F:\KERNEL.SYS

Well you did not put any config.sys or autoexec.bat in the
root directory - this is why DOS asks you for date and time.
If you do not have any config, those actions are default.

> What does "bin\sys  F:  C:\FDOSBOOT.BIN  BOOTONLY" do?  I get an error or
> something from it, forgot what it was.

It puts a boot sector in a boot sector file without copying
the kernel, as you do that separately in the next command.
Not sure why you did it that way.

> I sort of understand this: copy BIN\KERNEL32.SYS F:\KERNEL.SYS

The kernel to boot is always named kernel.sys, you probably
have several kernels in the BIN directory and copied the one
named kernel32.sys as the one for your F: drive.

> I also don't understand "makecmd" and I think it also gave me an error
> message.  I've managed to put command.com on the root directory, though.

If I have to guess, it might create a command.com in one of
the supported languages for you. As you say that it failed,
I guess you manually copied the English command.com instead.

> 1.  When I boot into FreeDOS, it almost always asks me to enter the date and
> time.  Is this normal?

See above.

> 2.  I can run an old Clipper program but the program has to be in the same
> drive/partition as FreeDOS; I cannot access other drive/partition when I'm
> in FreeDOS.  Is this normal?

This might be not normal. DOS only supports FAT partitions,
so if your other partitions are NTFS or Linux, it is normal
that DOS can not access them without additional drivers.

> 3.  When I'm using the Clipper program, I can print just fine.  But I cannot
> enter data.  I get the DOS ERROR 4, something like that.  When running the
> Clipper program in command prompt in Windows 7 and I get the DOS ERROR 4,
> all I have to do is edit the autoexec.nt and config.nt in windows\system32.
>  What would be the equivalent of that in FreeDOS?

I do not know what error 4 is and you have not explained in
which way you edit the *.nt files. What do you add, remove
or change in those files? You can do the same in DOS, but I
think you do not have any config yet - see question 1. Note
that the drive which is "F:" while you installed DOS, if I
understand your mail correctly, probably is drive "C:" when
you boot DOS. As you also seem to have Windows 7 on the same
computer, I guess that your Windows partitions are all NTFS.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help with installing FreeDOS on second partition

[Marlon]

Hello Eric,

I edit autoexec.nt with Windows Notepad and insert this line at the very
top:
SET CLIPPER=F99

I edit config.nt with Windows Notepad as well and insert this at the very
top too:
FILES=99

Both .nt files are located in C:\Windows\System32   if I am not mistaken.

Once I edit them, I no longer get DOS ERROR 4.

"What does a DOS error 4 mean?

A DOS error 4 comes from your hardware-level settings.  Not enough file
handles have been set for your PC to use, either on its own or when working
with the file server."

source:  http://www.dataworld.co.uk/faq.htm

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help with installing FreeDOS on second partition

[Eric Auer]

Hi Marlon,

> I edit autoexec.nt with Windows Notepad and insert this line at the very
> top:
> SET CLIPPER=F99

You can also type that command at the prompt before
running Clipper. Of course it would be easier if you
put the line in the autoexec.bat file of your DOS ;-)

If the F99 is related to the FILES=99 setting, it is
probably not useful to set "clipper" but not "files"?

> I edit config.nt with Windows Notepad as well and insert this at the very
> top too:
> FILES=99

There are tools to raise FILES after boot, but the
recommended way is to put the setting properly in
your DOS config.sys file instead.

I generally recommend to have proper configuration
for your DOS installation: Without those two config
files (config.sys and autoexec.bat) you will have
to confirm date and time at each boot and DOS will
perform at a very mediocre level compared to what
it can do, in particular on modern hardware.

Maybe somebody could cite their own (preferably both
SIMPLE and efficient) config.sys and autoexec.bat in
FreeDOS as example configs for you on this list here?

By the way, have you tried running your Clipper software
in the more modern clone Harbour? See our software info:

http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=xharbour

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help with installing FreeDOS on second partition

[Rugxulo]

Hi,

On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Marlon Ng guik...@gmail.com wrote:

 First partition, drive C:, of hard disk is Windows 7. Second partition
 (50MB), drive H: , is for FreeDos.

It's been a while since I've installed FD from .iso (mostly under
emulators), but I'll try to help.

 I downloaded the FreeDos iso file fdbasecd.iso,

Why that old one? A quick double-check online shows fd11src.iso as newest:

http://www.freedos.org/download/

 mount it on a virtual drive, installed it in the second partition (drive H:).

You just ran the installer, I take it? Didn't manually do anything else?

 The files are in H:\FDOS, not in the root directory H:\. Is this ok?

The only files that should (presumably) be in the root directory are
KERNEL.SYS and maybe COMMAND.COM . Don't delete anything, but I don't
think you (normally) need more than that in root. So yes, everything
else in H:\FDOS (presumably %DOSDIR%) is reasonable.

 Downloaded EasyBCD 2.3 Beta build (because 2.2 does not have FreeDOS OS as
 an option to include in the boot menu).

Yes, Vista on up don't support the old (easier?) XP way via BOOT.INI,
so you have to use EasyBCD. Well, or you could just use something
ultra simple (like BootMgr, which fits in the MBR), assuming you've
already got an active FAT partition that has its own local boot
sector installed via SYS.COM .

 Managed to add FreeDOS in the boot menu, but when I try to boot FreeDOS, I
 get what seems like the GRUB boot manager saying something which I forgot.

Is GRUB installed on your FAT partition?? Then I doubt it's GRUB.
Presumably it's just saying not an active partition or can't find
boot sector or something similar. So you probably need to (re)run
SYS.COM (or maybe FDISK /MBR ... I forget, might be dangerous, can't
remember whether it partially modifies/preserves the existing
partition table, at worst you should probably save your existing MBR
to file via BOOTMGR.COM first).

 I cannot boot FreeDOS.

 Any ideas?

 Thank you for your time.

I'm not sure if it's reasonable to install FreeDOS from within Win7
itself. (You are talking about native physical install, not
virtualized, right?) You said you mounted on virtual drive, but that
presumably doesn't give you raw hard drive access. Normally you boot
DOS itself (natively, via floppy or CD or USB) and manually run the
installer tools, e.g. fdisk, (reboot), format, sys, xcopy, (etc.). So
if you already have an active FAT partition, you can then run (DOS)
sys.com, something like this: sys a: c: /BOOTONLY to update the boot
sector.

An easier way (or maybe good way to troubleshoot / repair) is to use
RUFUS, which is a bootable USB made from within Windows itself:
http://rufus.akeo.ie/

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[Freedos-user] Help with installing FreeDOS on second partition

[Marlon Ng]

Hi!

First partition, drive C:, of hard disk is Windows 7. Second partition
(50MB), drive H: , is for FreeDos.

I downloaded the FreeDos iso file fdbasecd.iso, mount it on a virtual
drive, installed it in the second partition (drive H:). The files are in
H:\FDOS, not in the root directory H:\. Is this ok?

Downloaded EasyBCD 2.3 Beta build (because 2.2 does not have FreeDOS OS as
an option to include in the boot menu).

Managed to add FreeDOS in the boot menu, but when I try to boot FreeDOS, I
get what seems like the GRUB boot manager saying something which I forgot.

I cannot boot FreeDOS.

Any ideas?

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[Freedos-user] Help Using FreeDOS1.1

[panyong]

Hi,

I  installed FreeDOS1.1 on Parallels , and i want to install some software on 
the list http://www.freedos.org/software/ 

I’ve tried to use a browser , but there is no on freedos . I've  also tried 
using the usb-flash-disk to share a file , but i fail again. I don’t know how 
to copy the software-file to freedos. 

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help Using FreeDOS1.1

[Mateusz Viste]

On 07/11/2014 05:46 PM, panyong wrote:
 I  installed FreeDOS1.1 on Parallels ,

I don't know what Parallels is. Is it some sort of hypervisor, like 
VirtualBox or VMWare ?

 I’ve tried to use a browser , but there is no on freedos .

There is Dillo. And the good old Arachne of course. Otherwise you can 
still use gopher ;-)

  I've  also
 tried using the usb-flash-disk to share a file , but i fail again. I
 don’t know how to copy the software-file to freedos.

Best would be to setup networking on your FreeDOS OS. Does Parallels 
come with an ethernet adapter of any kind? If so, and if you're lucky, 
you might find a packet driver that will fit.

Mateusz

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help Using FreeDOS1.1

[dmccunney]

On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Mateusz Viste mate...@viste.fr wrote:
 On 07/11/2014 05:46 PM, panyong wrote:
 I  installed FreeDOS1.1 on Parallels ,

 I don't know what Parallels is. Is it some sort of hypervisor, like
 VirtualBox or VMWare ?

Correct.  It's a package for Macs using Intel X86 CPUs that allows you
to do things like run OS/X and Windows side by side on the Mac.  See
http://www.parallels.com/products/desktop/

I think his problem is how he gets FreeDOS packages from the
repository into his Parallels installation.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help Using FreeDOS1.1

[Mateusz Viste]

I see. In such case my suggestion about finding a packet driver to set 
up networking might be the good way to go - providing this Parallels 
hypervisor allows to emulate a network card that a packet driver exists 
for.. If believing loose information I find on internet, Parallels 
emulates a rtl8029 NIC, therefore using a packet driver for it sounds 
very doable.

Mateusz



On 07/11/2014 08:46 PM, dmccunney wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Mateusz Viste mate...@viste.fr wrote:
 On 07/11/2014 05:46 PM, panyong wrote:
 I  installed FreeDOS1.1 on Parallels ,

 I don't know what Parallels is. Is it some sort of hypervisor, like
 VirtualBox or VMWare ?

 Correct.  It's a package for Macs using Intel X86 CPUs that allows you
 to do things like run OS/X and Windows side by side on the Mac.  See
 http://www.parallels.com/products/desktop/

 I think his problem is how he gets FreeDOS packages from the
 repository into his Parallels installation.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help Using FreeDOS1.1

[Jack Jackson]

At 08:46 AM 7/11/2014, panyong wrote:
Hi,
I installed FreeDOS1.1 on Parallels , and i want to install some
software on the list

http://www.freedos.org/software/ 
I¡¯ve tried to use a browser , but there is no on freedos . I've
also tried using the usb-flash-disk to share a file , but i fail again. I
don¡¯t know how to copy the software-file to freedos. 
Any help Using FreeDOS would be appreciated.
What I do for ESXi (VMWare's hypervisor) is to use the CD-ROM in
FreeDOS. I can either mount an iso file as the CD-ROM (which is
what I usually do) or mount the physical CD-ROM. Maybe Parallels
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Re: [Freedos-user] Help Using FreeDOS1.1

[Rugxulo]

Hi,

On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 10:46 AM, panyong zlib...@icloud.com wrote:

 I  installed FreeDOS1.1 on Parallels , and i want to install some software
 on the list http://www.freedos.org/software/

I don't have a Mac or Parallels. Does it even officially support DOS
at all? (Wikipedia says Parallels Desktop 8 does.)

A quick search shows this:  How to install MS DOS 6.22 using
Parallels Desktop for Mac

http://kb.parallels.com/en/113442

 I've tried to use a browser , but there is no on freedos . I've  also tried
 using the usb-flash-disk to share a file , but i fail again. I don't know
 how to copy the software-file to freedos.

Maybe setup an FTP server and swap files via that (see VBox guide below).

 Any help Using FreeDOS would be appreciated.

At risk of giving you redundant advice (and making you download yet
another 100 MB), have you tried VirtualBox? At least, some of us here
have more experience with it (and FreeDOS). At least a packet driver
and networking works there for me.

http://lazybrowndog.net/freedos/virtualbox/

Note that I know it's probably better to get Parallels working, but if
you can't do that, then for simplicity, if you can afford the
bandwidth, a suitable workaround might be to just use VirtualBox
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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: USB drivers for USB mass storage devices

[Carl Spitzer]

http://vampiric.us/index.php/articles/os/freedos/dosdrivers


another source for mhairudos driver 


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[Freedos-user] Help with loading Freedos on a compact flash card

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Hello All,
I am new to the list and would appreciate some help loading a bootable  
version of Freedos on to a 1 GB compact flash card.  This is for a small  
PC-104 system I have.  Several years ago I had a version that was on a  
floppy (1.4 meg).  Later I got a CD for loading bootable Freedos on to a  
hard drive.  But this version takes much, much more disk space than what the  
floppy did.  Is there a bootable version of Freedos that will fit on my  
compact flash card that doesn't require so much space?


Thanks for your help.
A Freedos user,
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Re: [Freedos-user] Help with loading Freedos on a compact flash card

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Op 6-5-2012 22:23, k4...@aol.com schreef:

 I am new to the list and would appreciate some help loading a bootable
 version of Freedos on to a 1 GB compact flash card.  This is for a small
 PC-104 system I have.  Several years ago I had a version that was on a
 floppy (1.4 meg).  Later I got a CD for loading bootable Freedos on to a
 hard drive.  But this version takes much, much more disk space than what
 the floppy did.  Is there a bootable version of Freedos that will fit on
 my compact flash card that doesn't require so much space?

Usually SYS X: does the trick, where X: is the driveletter assigned to a 
FAT32 formatted storage device.

If you're working on Windows, have a look at RUFUS, found at
[ http://rufus.akeo.ie/ ]. Under Windows, it performs all the 
partitioning, formatting and bootsector manipulation in 1 go.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help with loading Freedos on a compact flash card

[Rugxulo]

Hi,

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote:
 Op 6-5-2012 22:23, k4...@aol.com schreef:

 I am new to the list and would appreciate some help loading a bootable
 version of Freedos on to a 1 GB compact flash card.  This is for a small
 PC-104 system I have.  Several years ago I had a version that was on a
 floppy (1.4 meg).  Later I got a CD for loading bootable Freedos on to a
 hard drive.  But this version takes much, much more disk space than what
 the floppy did.  Is there a bootable version of Freedos that will fit on
 my compact flash card that doesn't require so much space?

 Usually SYS X: does the trick, where X: is the driveletter assigned to a
 FAT32 formatted storage device.

As Bernd said, you can be as minimal as you like. You're only forced
to use the kernel and some kind of shell (presumably FreeCOM), not
counting boot sector and active FAT partition of course. However, I'm
assuming you don't mean quite that ultra minimal.

BASE is the core of FreeDOS, and it includes various things, mostly
meant to compare to old de facto standard MS-DOS 6.22, e.g. EXE2BIN
(heh). Check here to see if that is all you want / need:

http://www.freedos.org/software/?cat=base

I've not studied the FD 1.1 installer and setup too heavily (as Bernd
did the work), so I can't remember every little detail, but I think it
lets you choose what to install and what to ignore. Certainly you can
manually install (like me) instead, though I guess that's more
tedious.

I don't know if this answers your question, but feel free to ask for
more specifics. Though there are no floppy distros anymore, as most
don't want them, and I'm not sure if all the stuff you'd want would
reasonably fit anyways (esp. not with sources, docs, or whatever).

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: Boot FreeDOS from the second pri. partition

[Lee Eric]

Hi all,

I have fixed that by using chain.c32 and append boot 2
freedos=KERNEL.SYS. It boots FreeDOS successfully.

Thanks.

Eric

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 6:27 AM, teo gum teo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Don't know to answer direcly your question, but know another way to boot
 freedos with grub4dos from any partition and to boot linux from under
 freedos with the same grub4dos. The last is what use every day.
 If the first partition (possible in an USB as well), you install freedos in
 the usual way, then run grub with grub.exe and grldr and write your options
 to load linux from the second (or other) partition (or drive). Only freedos
 must be in the low memory. If something is over 640 kb, grub will hung.
 One can also install grub4dos into MBR and simply copy kernel command.com
 etc on any partition you want and write your options to load any thing you
 want, freedos as well. first partition of the first drive will be (hd0,0)
 second partition of the second drive - (hd1,1) etc. this is root.
 chainloader /kernel.sys - this is the command. boot.
 Only not sure this will be a correct DOS, not a specialist :)

 2012/3/26 Lee Eric openlinuxsou...@gmail.com

 Hi all,

 I'm going to create an USB flash disk. Here's the partition structure.

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/sdb1   *           1      537911      268955+  83  Linux
 /dev/sdb2          537912     1598793      530441    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)

 /dev/sdb1 I used for installing boot loader(syslinux) and other small
 standalone utilities. /dev/sdb2 is used for FreeDOS and I have copied
 necessary files to the partition. Here's my syslinux.cfg in /dev/sdb1.

 UI menu.c32
 TIMEOUT 300
 default localboot

 MENU TITLE System Rescue Flash Disk

 LABEL memtest
        MENU LABEL Memtest86+ (4.20)
        KERNEL memtest

 LABEL freedos
        MENU LABEL FreeDOS 1.1
        COM32 chain.c32
        APPEND hd0 2 freedos=KERNEL.SYS

 LABEL reboot
        MENU LABEL Cold Reboot
        COM32 reboot.c32

 LABEL local
        MENU LABEL Boot from local hard drive
        LOCALBOOT 0x80

 But when select freedos label it reports Failed to load the boot
 file. I remember that FreeDOS can be installed on other partitions.

 Can anyone tell me how to fix that?

 Thanks.

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[Freedos-user] Help: Boot FreeDOS from the second pri. partition

[Lee Eric]

Hi all,

I'm going to create an USB flash disk. Here's the partition structure.

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   *   1  537911  268955+  83  Linux
/dev/sdb2  537912 1598793  530441c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)

/dev/sdb1 I used for installing boot loader(syslinux) and other small
standalone utilities. /dev/sdb2 is used for FreeDOS and I have copied
necessary files to the partition. Here's my syslinux.cfg in /dev/sdb1.

UI menu.c32
TIMEOUT 300
default localboot

MENU TITLE System Rescue Flash Disk

LABEL memtest
MENU LABEL Memtest86+ (4.20)
KERNEL memtest

LABEL freedos
MENU LABEL FreeDOS 1.1
COM32 chain.c32
APPEND hd0 2 freedos=KERNEL.SYS

LABEL reboot
MENU LABEL Cold Reboot
COM32 reboot.c32

LABEL local
MENU LABEL Boot from local hard drive
LOCALBOOT 0x80

But when select freedos label it reports Failed to load the boot
file. I remember that FreeDOS can be installed on other partitions.

Can anyone tell me how to fix that?

Thanks.

Eric

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: Boot FreeDOS from the second pri. partition

[Rugxulo]

Hi,

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 3:03 AM, Lee Eric openlinuxsou...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm going to create an USB flash disk. Here's the partition structure.

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/sdb1   *           1      537911      268955+  83  Linux
 /dev/sdb2          537912     1598793      530441    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)

 ...

 But when select freedos label it reports Failed to load the boot
 file. I remember that FreeDOS can be installed on other partitions.

 Can anyone tell me how to fix that?

Silly question since it's hard to tell, but did you make sure that
it's a primary, active partition? Or maybe SYS.COM wrote the boot
sector wrong? (Or maybe your BIOS needs / doesn't need an MBR on USB?)
Also, I think you can maybe? override the LBA detection with SYS.COM.
You may have to fiddle with some SYS.COM settings. It's kinda a
crapshoot.

Sorry I'm not more help, this kinda of stuff is arcane and tediously
difficult (to me).

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: Boot FreeDOS from the second pri. partition

[teo gum]

Don't know to answer direcly your question, but know another way to boot
freedos with grub4dos from any partition and to boot linux from under
freedos with the same grub4dos. The last is what use every day.
If the first partition (possible in an USB as well), you install freedos in
the usual way, then run grub with grub.exe and grldr and write your options
to load linux from the second (or other) partition (or drive). Only freedos
must be in the low memory. If something is over 640 kb, grub will hung.
One can also install grub4dos into MBR and simply copy kernel
command.cometc on any partition you want and write your options to
load any thing you
want, freedos as well. first partition of the first drive will be (hd0,0)
second partition of the second drive - (hd1,1) etc. this is root.
chainloader /kernel.sys - this is the command. boot.
Only not sure this will be a correct DOS, not a specialist :)

2012/3/26 Lee Eric openlinuxsou...@gmail.com

 Hi all,

 I'm going to create an USB flash disk. Here's the partition structure.

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/sdb1   *   1  537911  268955+  83  Linux
 /dev/sdb2  537912 1598793  530441c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)

 /dev/sdb1 I used for installing boot loader(syslinux) and other small
 standalone utilities. /dev/sdb2 is used for FreeDOS and I have copied
 necessary files to the partition. Here's my syslinux.cfg in /dev/sdb1.

 UI menu.c32
 TIMEOUT 300
 default localboot

 MENU TITLE System Rescue Flash Disk

 LABEL memtest
MENU LABEL Memtest86+ (4.20)
KERNEL memtest

 LABEL freedos
MENU LABEL FreeDOS 1.1
COM32 chain.c32
APPEND hd0 2 freedos=KERNEL.SYS

 LABEL reboot
MENU LABEL Cold Reboot
COM32 reboot.c32

 LABEL local
MENU LABEL Boot from local hard drive
LOCALBOOT 0x80

 But when select freedos label it reports Failed to load the boot
 file. I remember that FreeDOS can be installed on other partitions.

 Can anyone tell me how to fix that?

 Thanks.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: UIDE cannot load

[Lee Eric]

Any update?

Eric

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Lee Eric openlinuxsou...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks mate. The controller is 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel
 Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) SATA AHCI Controller (rev 02)
 and following is lspci output.

 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset DRAM Controller (rev 
 03)
 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset
 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset
 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
 00:03.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset
 HECI Controller (rev 03)
 00:03.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset PT IDER
 Controller (rev 03)
 00:03.3 Serial controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Serial
 KT Controller (rev 03)
 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82567LM-3 Gigabit
 Network Connection (rev 02)
 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family)
 USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
 00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family)
 USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 02)
 00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family)
 USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 02)
 00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family)
 USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) HD
 Audio Controller (rev 02)
 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family)
 USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family)
 USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family)
 USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family)
 USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev a2)
 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JDO (ICH10DO) LPC Interface
 Controller (rev 02)
 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family)
 SATA AHCI Controller (rev 02)
 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) SMBus
 Controller (rev 02)

 Actually it's a Lenovo workstation I don't know the mainboard type exactly.

 Thanks.

 Eric

 On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote:

 Hi Eric,

 Yep, I use the latest version of UIDE.

 Good :-)

 I always encountered BAD Controller error messages...

 The source code says that this message can be shown if not both
 flags busmaster and memory mapped I/O are active. This might
 be related to your BIOS settings, in particular for SATA. Some
 BIOSes may need settings as AHCI, legacy mode or native IDE.

 So it looks like UIDE is not a real SATA driver. It still depends
 on BIOS related settings. Maybe just faster when reading data.

 Well, partially. It depends on the BIOS to set the controller
 to a suitable standard compatible mode... I guess such things
 do not follow a fixed schema(?)  so the best that future UIDE
 versions could do would be knowing how to mode-switch  a few
 known chipsets and controllers. The current version, however,
 depends on the BIOS to set the mode and then uses universal
 SATA compatible I/O to work with any brand of controller.

 I hope I understood the philosophy of UIDE correctly :-)

 If you can tell us which model of controller (and mainboard)
 chipset you use, then maybe I can find a few steps for manual
 mode switching which we can then roll into a tiny init tool
 style driver which you would load before UIDE. Note, however,
 that this might break BIOS access to drives on that controller
 so only access which goes through UIDE would stay working.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: UIDE cannot load

[Lee Eric]

Thanks mate. The controller is 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel
Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) SATA AHCI Controller (rev 02)
and following is lspci output.

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset DRAM Controller (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:03.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset
HECI Controller (rev 03)
00:03.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset PT IDER
Controller (rev 03)
00:03.3 Serial controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Serial
KT Controller (rev 03)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82567LM-3 Gigabit
Network Connection (rev 02)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family)
USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family)
USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 02)
00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family)
USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 02)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family)
USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) HD
Audio Controller (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family)
USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family)
USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family)
USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family)
USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev a2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JDO (ICH10DO) LPC Interface
Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family)
SATA AHCI Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) SMBus
Controller (rev 02)

Actually it's a Lenovo workstation I don't know the mainboard type exactly.

Thanks.

Eric

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote:

 Hi Eric,

 Yep, I use the latest version of UIDE.

 Good :-)

 I always encountered BAD Controller error messages...

 The source code says that this message can be shown if not both
 flags busmaster and memory mapped I/O are active. This might
 be related to your BIOS settings, in particular for SATA. Some
 BIOSes may need settings as AHCI, legacy mode or native IDE.

 So it looks like UIDE is not a real SATA driver. It still depends
 on BIOS related settings. Maybe just faster when reading data.

 Well, partially. It depends on the BIOS to set the controller
 to a suitable standard compatible mode... I guess such things
 do not follow a fixed schema(?)  so the best that future UIDE
 versions could do would be knowing how to mode-switch  a few
 known chipsets and controllers. The current version, however,
 depends on the BIOS to set the mode and then uses universal
 SATA compatible I/O to work with any brand of controller.

 I hope I understood the philosophy of UIDE correctly :-)

 If you can tell us which model of controller (and mainboard)
 chipset you use, then maybe I can find a few steps for manual
 mode switching which we can then roll into a tiny init tool
 style driver which you would load before UIDE. Note, however,
 that this might break BIOS access to drives on that controller
 so only access which goes through UIDE would stay working.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: UIDE cannot load

[Lee Eric]

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote:

 Hi Eric :-)

 123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\UIDE.SYS /D:FDCD0001

 Do you already use the newest version? The original is here:
 http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/driver.html (newest: 2010-12-05)

Yep, I use the latest version of UIDE.
 I always encountered BAD Controller error messages and then says
 UIDE.SYS cannot load. So is there any way to make this driver work? I
 google a lot and it seemed only this driver is popular for SATA
 devices.

 The source code says that this message can be shown if not both
 flags busmaster and memory mapped I/O are active. This might
 be related to your BIOS settings, in particular for SATA. Some
 BIOSes may need settings as AHCI, legacy mode or native IDE.

 You can control those settings in your BIOS CMOS setup which is
 a config menu that you can reach by pressing a hotkey at boot.
 The hotkeys can be different for different BIOS brands though.

 Regards, Eric :-)

 PS: You can also run tools like PCISLEEP (option L) to get a list
 of PCI / AGP / PCIe / onboard devices in your system but I think
 that UIDE can already display some relevant data, see the readme.

So it looks like UIDE is not a real SATA driver. It still depends on
BIOS related settings. Maybe just faster when reading data.

Thanks mate.

Eric

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: UIDE cannot load

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Here's AUTOEXEC.BAT and FDCONFIG.SYS file contents.

AUTOEXEC.BAT

@echo off
SET dosdir=C:\FDOS
REM C:\FDOS\BIN\BANNER2
REM C:\FDOS\BIN\BLACKOUT
set PATH=%dosdir%\bin
set NLSPATH=%dosdir%\NLS
set HELPPATH=%dosdir%\HELP
set temp=%dosdir%\temp
set tmp=%dosdir%\temp
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330
REM ShsuCDhd /QQ /F:C:\FDBOOTCD.ISO
if not %config%==4 REM LH VIAUDIO
if not %config%==4 REM LH VIAFMTSR
if not %config%==4 LH FDAPM APMDOS
if %config%==2 LH SHARE
if not %config%==4 SHCDX33E /QQ /~ /D:?FDCD0002 /D:?FDCD0003 /D:?CDRCACH0
SET autofile=C:\autoexec.bat
alias reboot=fdapm warmboot
alias halt=fdapm poweroff
SET CFGFILE=C:\fdconfig.sys
echo type HELP to get support on commands and navigation
echo.
echo Welcome to FreeDOS
echo.
if not %config%==4 mouse
lh doslfn
lh peruse /X6000
set PATH=%PATH%;%DOSDIR%\SETEDIT
SET VIM=C:\FDOS\VIM
SET PATH=%PATH%;%DOSDIR%\vim\vim70
SET PATH=%PATH%;%DOSDIR%\DOG

FDCONFIG.SYS

!COUNTRY=001,437,C:\FDOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS
!SET lang=EN
!LASTDRIVE=Z
!BUFFERS=20
!FILES=40
!DOS=HIGH,UMB
!DOSDATA=UMB
!set dircmd=/ogn /4
!MENUCOLOR=7,0
MENUDEFAULT=2,5
MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with JEMM386, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free
MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with JEMM386+EMS and SHARE
MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS including HIMEMX XMS-memory driver
MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS without drivers
DOS=HIGH,UMB
123?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\HIMEM\HIMEMX.EXE
1?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\JEMM\JEMM386.EXE NOEMS X=TEST
2?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\JEMM\JEMM386.EXE X=TEST
;123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\xdma.sys
;123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\xcdrom.sys /d:FDCD0001
123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\UIDE.SYS /D:FDCD0001
123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\cdrcache.sys FDCD0001 CDRCACH0 6000
REM 123?INSTALL=C:\FDOS\BIN\BANNER1.COM
123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\BIN\MORESYS.SYS
SHELLHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\command.com C:\FDOS\bin /E:1024 /P=C:\autoexec.bat
123?INSTALLHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\lbacache.com 6000 TUNS

I always encountered BAD Controller error messages and then says
UIDE.SYS cannot load. So is there any way to make this driver work? I
google a lot and it seemed only this driver is popular for SATA
devices.

Thanks.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: UIDE cannot load

[Eric Auer]

Hi Eric :-)

 123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\UIDE.SYS /D:FDCD0001

Do you already use the newest version? The original is here:
http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/driver.html (newest: 2010-12-05)

 I always encountered BAD Controller error messages and then says
 UIDE.SYS cannot load. So is there any way to make this driver work? I
 google a lot and it seemed only this driver is popular for SATA
 devices.

The source code says that this message can be shown if not both
flags busmaster and memory mapped I/O are active. This might
be related to your BIOS settings, in particular for SATA. Some
BIOSes may need settings as AHCI, legacy mode or native IDE.

You can control those settings in your BIOS CMOS setup which is
a config menu that you can reach by pressing a hotkey at boot.
The hotkeys can be different for different BIOS brands though.

Regards, Eric :-)

PS: You can also run tools like PCISLEEP (option L) to get a list
of PCI / AGP / PCIe / onboard devices in your system but I think
that UIDE can already display some relevant data, see the readme.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: UIDE cannot load

[Lee Eric]

Thanks mate. I saw the error message I got is Bad Controller then I
checked the README of UIDE it seemed UIDE does not support that
controller. So is there a controller list which UIDE supports? And is
there any special configuration in BIOS while using UIDE driver?

Thanks very much.

Eric

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Tom Ehlert t...@drivesnapshot.de wrote:
 Hallo Herr Lee Eric,

 am 17. März 2011 um 15:21 schrieben Sie:

 Hi,

 I download UIDE driver and try to make it work but when system boots
 it will hang when UIDE driver loads. Here's AUTOEXEC.BAT contents:


 @echo off
 SET dosdir=C:\FDOS
 REM C:\FDOS\BIN\BANNER2
 REM C:\FDOS\BIN\BLACKOUT
 set PATH=%dosdir%\bin
 set NLSPATH=%dosdir%\NLS
 set HELPPATH=%dosdir%\HELP
 set temp=%dosdir%\temp
 set tmp=%dosdir%\temp
 SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330
 REM ShsuCDhd /QQ /F:C:\FDBOOTCD.ISO
 if not %config%==4 REM LH VIAUDIO
 if not %config%==4 REM LH VIAFMTSR
 if not %config%==4 LH FDAPM APMDOS
 if %config%==2 LH SHARE
 if not %config%==4 SHCDX33E /QQ /~ /D:?FDCD0002 /D:?FDCD0003 /D:?CDRCACH0
 SET autofile=C:\autoexec.bat
 alias reboot=fdapm warmboot
 alias halt=fdapm poweroff
 SET CFGFILE=C:\fdconfig.sys
 echo type HELP to get support on commands and navigation
 echo.
 echo Welcome to FreeDOS
 echo.
 if not %config%==4 mouse

 FDCONFIG.SYS file contents:


 !COUNTRY=001,437,C:\FDOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS
 !SET lang=EN
 !LASTDRIVE=Z
 !BUFFERS=20
 !FILES=40
 !DOS=HIGH,UMB
 !DOSDATA=UMB
 !set dircmd=/ogn /4
 !MENUCOLOR=7,0
 MENUDEFAULT=2,5
 MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with JEMM386, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free
 MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with JEMM386+EMS and SHARE
 MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS including HIMEMX XMS-memory driver
 MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS without drivers
 DOS=HIGH,UMB
 123?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\HIMEMX\HIMEMX.EXE
 ;123?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\XMGR.SYS /B
 1?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\JEMM\JEMM386.EXE NOEMS X=TEST
 2?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\JEMM\JEMM386.EXE X=TEST
 ;123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\xdma.sys
 123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\xcdrom.sys /d:FDCD0001
 123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\cdrcache.sys FDCD0001 CDRCACH0 6000
 123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\BIN\UIDE.SYS /S10 /H
 REM 123?INSTALL=C:\FDOS\BIN\BLACKOUT.EXE
 REM 123?INSTALL=C:\FDOS\BIN\BANNER1.COM
 123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\BIN\MORESYS.SYS
 SHELLHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\command.com C:\FDOS\bin /E:1024 /P=C:\autoexec.bat
 123?INSTALLHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\lbacache.com 6000 TUNS

 Can anyone show me the tips to fix this problem?

 usually, it is 'divide et impera'  (remove 50 % of your config.sys,
 see if the error persists)

 in your case, it's easy: xcdrom and uide can't coexist (they are
 basically the same program)

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[Freedos-user] Help: UIDE cannot load

[Lee Eric]

Hi,

I download UIDE driver and try to make it work but when system boots
it will hang when UIDE driver loads. Here's AUTOEXEC.BAT contents:


@echo off
SET dosdir=C:\FDOS
REM C:\FDOS\BIN\BANNER2
REM C:\FDOS\BIN\BLACKOUT
set PATH=%dosdir%\bin
set NLSPATH=%dosdir%\NLS
set HELPPATH=%dosdir%\HELP
set temp=%dosdir%\temp
set tmp=%dosdir%\temp
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330
REM ShsuCDhd /QQ /F:C:\FDBOOTCD.ISO
if not %config%==4 REM LH VIAUDIO
if not %config%==4 REM LH VIAFMTSR
if not %config%==4 LH FDAPM APMDOS
if %config%==2 LH SHARE
if not %config%==4 SHCDX33E /QQ /~ /D:?FDCD0002 /D:?FDCD0003 /D:?CDRCACH0
SET autofile=C:\autoexec.bat
alias reboot=fdapm warmboot
alias halt=fdapm poweroff
SET CFGFILE=C:\fdconfig.sys
echo type HELP to get support on commands and navigation
echo.
echo Welcome to FreeDOS
echo.
if not %config%==4 mouse

FDCONFIG.SYS file contents:


!COUNTRY=001,437,C:\FDOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS
!SET lang=EN
!LASTDRIVE=Z
!BUFFERS=20
!FILES=40
!DOS=HIGH,UMB
!DOSDATA=UMB
!set dircmd=/ogn /4
!MENUCOLOR=7,0
MENUDEFAULT=2,5
MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with JEMM386, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free
MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with JEMM386+EMS and SHARE
MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS including HIMEMX XMS-memory driver
MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS without drivers
DOS=HIGH,UMB
123?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\HIMEMX\HIMEMX.EXE
;123?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\XMGR.SYS /B
1?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\JEMM\JEMM386.EXE NOEMS X=TEST
2?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\JEMM\JEMM386.EXE X=TEST
;123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\xdma.sys
123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\xcdrom.sys /d:FDCD0001
123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\cdrcache.sys FDCD0001 CDRCACH0 6000
123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\BIN\UIDE.SYS /S10 /H
REM 123?INSTALL=C:\FDOS\BIN\BLACKOUT.EXE
REM 123?INSTALL=C:\FDOS\BIN\BANNER1.COM
123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\BIN\MORESYS.SYS
SHELLHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\command.com C:\FDOS\bin /E:1024 /P=C:\autoexec.bat
123?INSTALLHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\lbacache.com 6000 TUNS

Can anyone show me the tips to fix this problem?

Thanks very much.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: UIDE cannot load

[Tom Ehlert]

Hallo Herr Lee Eric,

am 17. März 2011 um 15:21 schrieben Sie:

 Hi,

 I download UIDE driver and try to make it work but when system boots
 it will hang when UIDE driver loads. Here's AUTOEXEC.BAT contents:


 @echo off
 SET dosdir=C:\FDOS
 REM C:\FDOS\BIN\BANNER2
 REM C:\FDOS\BIN\BLACKOUT
 set PATH=%dosdir%\bin
 set NLSPATH=%dosdir%\NLS
 set HELPPATH=%dosdir%\HELP
 set temp=%dosdir%\temp
 set tmp=%dosdir%\temp
 SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330
 REM ShsuCDhd /QQ /F:C:\FDBOOTCD.ISO
 if not %config%==4 REM LH VIAUDIO
 if not %config%==4 REM LH VIAFMTSR
 if not %config%==4 LH FDAPM APMDOS
 if %config%==2 LH SHARE
 if not %config%==4 SHCDX33E /QQ /~ /D:?FDCD0002 /D:?FDCD0003 /D:?CDRCACH0
 SET autofile=C:\autoexec.bat
 alias reboot=fdapm warmboot
 alias halt=fdapm poweroff
 SET CFGFILE=C:\fdconfig.sys
 echo type HELP to get support on commands and navigation
 echo.
 echo Welcome to FreeDOS
 echo.
 if not %config%==4 mouse

 FDCONFIG.SYS file contents:


 !COUNTRY=001,437,C:\FDOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS
 !SET lang=EN
 !LASTDRIVE=Z
 !BUFFERS=20
 !FILES=40
 !DOS=HIGH,UMB
 !DOSDATA=UMB
 !set dircmd=/ogn /4
 !MENUCOLOR=7,0
 MENUDEFAULT=2,5
 MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with JEMM386, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free
 MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with JEMM386+EMS and SHARE
 MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS including HIMEMX XMS-memory driver
 MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS without drivers
 DOS=HIGH,UMB
 123?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\HIMEMX\HIMEMX.EXE
 ;123?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\XMGR.SYS /B
 1?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\JEMM\JEMM386.EXE NOEMS X=TEST
 2?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\JEMM\JEMM386.EXE X=TEST
 ;123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\xdma.sys
 123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\xcdrom.sys /d:FDCD0001
 123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\cdrcache.sys FDCD0001 CDRCACH0 6000
 123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\BIN\UIDE.SYS /S10 /H
 REM 123?INSTALL=C:\FDOS\BIN\BLACKOUT.EXE
 REM 123?INSTALL=C:\FDOS\BIN\BANNER1.COM
 123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\BIN\MORESYS.SYS
 SHELLHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\command.com C:\FDOS\bin /E:1024 /P=C:\autoexec.bat
 123?INSTALLHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\lbacache.com 6000 TUNS

 Can anyone show me the tips to fix this problem?

usually, it is 'divide et impera'  (remove 50 % of your config.sys,
see if the error persists)

in your case, it's easy: xcdrom and uide can't coexist (they are
basically the same program)

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: How to enable networking in a FreeDOS client?

[Lee Eric]

Any update here?

Eric

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Lee Eric openlinuxsou...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I installed FreeDOS with wattcp and FreeDOS has recognized the
 ethernet interface in the system. However, how can I get DHCP IP from
 the server? Here's C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT file content.


 @echo off
 SET dosdir=C:\FDOS
 REM C:\FDOS\BIN\BANNER2
 REM C:\FDOS\BIN\BLACKOUT
 set PATH=%dosdir%\bin
 set NLSPATH=%dosdir%\NLS
 set HELPPATH=%dosdir%\HELP
 set temp=%dosdir%\temp
 set tmp=%dosdir%\temp
 SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330
 REM ShsuCDhd /QQ /F:C:\FDBOOTCD.ISO
 if not %config%==4 REM LH VIAUDIO
 if not %config%==4 REM LH VIAFMTSR
 if not %config%==4 LH FDAPM APMDOS
 if %config%==2 LH SHARE
 if not %config%==4 ShsuCDX /QQ /~ /D:?FDCD0002 /D:?FDCD0003 /D:?CDRCACH0
 SET autofile=C:\autoexec.bat
 alias reboot=fdapm warmboot
 alias halt=fdapm poweroff
 SET CFGFILE=C:\fdconfig.sys
 echo type HELP to get support on commands and navigation
 echo.
 echo Welcome to FreeDOS
 echo.
 if not %config%==4 mouse
 C:\FDOS\drivers\net\crynwr\rtspkt 0x60
 SET WATTCP.CFG=%DOSDIR%\BIN

 And here's wattcp.cfg file content.


 my_ip = dhcp
 netmask = 255.255.255.0
 gateway = 0.0.0.0
 domain_list = your.domain.com

 So what commend I shall execute to get the IP address by DHCP?

 Thanks very much.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: FreeDOS serial support

[Lee Eric]

Thanks mates.

Eric

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Michael B. Brutman
mbbrut...@brutman.com wrote:

 I had seen the original suggestion to use CTTY to redirect the console
 to a serial port but

 I had seen the original question on how to redirect DOS to use the
 serial port and I probably should have chipped in then, but now you know
 the limitations of CTTY.

 CTTY to a serial port only works for programs that use the DOS system
 calls to generate output and read from the keyboard.  It doesn't work
 for anything that uses BIOS calls or directly manipulates video memory.
 It might be able to handle Ctrl-C correctly but it definitely can't
 handle Ctrl-Break.  In short, it is very limited.

 Programs that use ANSI escape codes to paint and manipulate the screen
 will work in theory, but there are very few of these.  Some of the early
 versions of the Norton Utilities can use ANSI instead of direct screen
 writes, but this technique did not catch on because it is very slow
 compared to normal BIOS calls or direct manipulation of the screen.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: How to enable networking in a FreeDOS client?

[cordata02]

 

 As has been noted here in the past, WATTCP is technically not part of the 
operating system,
it's a library that is linked in with the application program.

Wattcp *does* support DHCP and the line my_ip = DHCP should be all you need to 
get DHCP running.
The key is that you need to make sure that the more recent update of wattcp has 
been linked with your
application program.

What you should see with the config file below is that if DHCP fails you will 
get an error message. If you
don't get an error message then it worked.

An alternative is to use Mike Brutman's mTCP DHCP program.  Mike separates DHCP 
into a separate
program which will tell you the IP selected.  You could then edit your WATTCP 
config file to match the IP
returned by the DHCP client program.   The mTCP DHCP program will at least test 
your hardware to verify
that things are working.

So to sum up:  if your application program uses the right version of WATTCP 
then you don't need to do anything,
run the program and it will tell you if DHCP fails.


 

 

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From: Lee Eric openlinuxsou...@gmail.com
To: freedos-user freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Sun, Mar 13, 2011 7:10 am
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Help: How to enable networking in a FreeDOS client?


Any update here?



Eric



On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Lee Eric openlinuxsou...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,



 I installed FreeDOS with wattcp and FreeDOS has recognized the

 ethernet interface in the system. However, how can I get DHCP IP from

 the server? Here's C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT file content.





 @echo off

 SET dosdir=C:\FDOS

 REM C:\FDOS\BIN\BANNER2

 REM C:\FDOS\BIN\BLACKOUT

 set PATH=%dosdir%\bin

 set NLSPATH=%dosdir%\NLS

 set HELPPATH=%dosdir%\HELP

 set temp=%dosdir%\temp

 set tmp=%dosdir%\temp

 SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330

 REM ShsuCDhd /QQ /F:C:\FDBOOTCD.ISO

 if not %config%==4 REM LH VIAUDIO

 if not %config%==4 REM LH VIAFMTSR

 if not %config%==4 LH FDAPM APMDOS

 if %config%==2 LH SHARE

 if not %config%==4 ShsuCDX /QQ /~ /D:?FDCD0002 /D:?FDCD0003 /D:?CDRCACH0

 SET autofile=C:\autoexec.bat

 alias reboot=fdapm warmboot

 alias halt=fdapm poweroff

 SET CFGFILE=C:\fdconfig.sys

 echo type HELP to get support on commands and navigation

 echo.

 echo Welcome to FreeDOS

 echo.

 if not %config%==4 mouse

 C:\FDOS\drivers\net\crynwr\rtspkt 0x60

 SET WATTCP.CFG=%DOSDIR%\BIN



 And here's wattcp.cfg file content.





 my_ip = dhcp

 netmask = 255.255.255.0

 gateway = 0.0.0.0

 domain_list = your.domain.com



 So what commend I shall execute to get the IP address by DHCP?



 Thanks very much.



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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: FreeDOS serial support

[Lee Eric]

Thanks mate. It works well.

Eric

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 2:45 AM, Mark Blain mbla...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Lee Eric openlinuxsou...@gmail.com wrote in
 news:AANLkTik0R8PLJF5szh9Hfd9mZGqqL5sjeq0GH_=u8...@mail.gmail.com:

 Dose FreeDOS support serial console device? Could I redirect the
 contents to a serial console device like Linux? I think FreeDOS can
 use serial console device.

 Try CTTY AUX.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: FreeDOS serial support

[Hui Li]

BTW, if I wanna return to normal back. How do I do? My cmdline is
ctty aux
And furthermore, I notice that VIM cannot work properly under console
mode, the contents will be shown on the screen not the console.

Thanks.

Eric
On Sat, 2011-03-12 at 22:42 +0800, Lee Eric wrote:
 Thanks mate. It works well.
 
 Eric
 
 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 2:45 AM, Mark Blain mbla...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Lee Eric openlinuxsou...@gmail.com wrote in
  news:AANLkTik0R8PLJF5szh9Hfd9mZGqqL5sjeq0GH_=u8...@mail.gmail.com:
 
  Dose FreeDOS support serial console device? Could I redirect the
  contents to a serial console device like Linux? I think FreeDOS can
  use serial console device.
 
  Try CTTY AUX.
  http://www.freedos.org/freecom/cmd.html#ctty
 
 
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[Freedos-user] Help: How to enable networking in a FreeDOS client?

[Lee Eric]

Hi,

I installed FreeDOS with wattcp and FreeDOS has recognized the
ethernet interface in the system. However, how can I get DHCP IP from
the server? Here's C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT file content.


@echo off
SET dosdir=C:\FDOS
REM C:\FDOS\BIN\BANNER2
REM C:\FDOS\BIN\BLACKOUT
set PATH=%dosdir%\bin
set NLSPATH=%dosdir%\NLS
set HELPPATH=%dosdir%\HELP
set temp=%dosdir%\temp
set tmp=%dosdir%\temp
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330
REM ShsuCDhd /QQ /F:C:\FDBOOTCD.ISO
if not %config%==4 REM LH VIAUDIO
if not %config%==4 REM LH VIAFMTSR
if not %config%==4 LH FDAPM APMDOS
if %config%==2 LH SHARE
if not %config%==4 ShsuCDX /QQ /~ /D:?FDCD0002 /D:?FDCD0003 /D:?CDRCACH0
SET autofile=C:\autoexec.bat
alias reboot=fdapm warmboot
alias halt=fdapm poweroff
SET CFGFILE=C:\fdconfig.sys
echo type HELP to get support on commands and navigation
echo.
echo Welcome to FreeDOS
echo.
if not %config%==4 mouse
C:\FDOS\drivers\net\crynwr\rtspkt 0x60
SET WATTCP.CFG=%DOSDIR%\BIN

And here's wattcp.cfg file content.


my_ip = dhcp
netmask = 255.255.255.0
gateway = 0.0.0.0
domain_list = your.domain.com

So what commend I shall execute to get the IP address by DHCP?

Thanks very much.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: FreeDOS serial support

[Mark Blain]

Hui Li openlinuxsou...@gmail.com wrote in
news:1299943360.7385.4.ca...@dhcp-14-156.nay.redhat.com: 

 BTW, if I wanna return to normal back. How do I do? My cmdline is
 ctty aux
 And furthermore, I notice that VIM cannot work properly under console
 mode, the contents will be shown on the screen not the console.

CTTY CON should switch you back. 

CTTY only affects programs that use standard DOS interrupts (function 
calls) to send output to the screen, not those that use BIOS video 
interrupts or manipulate video buffers directly.  TTY-style programs like 
EDLIN that don't require cursor positioning should work.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: FreeDOS serial support

[Michael B. Brutman]

I had seen the original suggestion to use CTTY to redirect the console 
to a serial port but

I had seen the original question on how to redirect DOS to use the 
serial port and I probably should have chipped in then, but now you know 
the limitations of CTTY.

CTTY to a serial port only works for programs that use the DOS system 
calls to generate output and read from the keyboard.  It doesn't work 
for anything that uses BIOS calls or directly manipulates video memory.  
It might be able to handle Ctrl-C correctly but it definitely can't 
handle Ctrl-Break.  In short, it is very limited.

Programs that use ANSI escape codes to paint and manipulate the screen 
will work in theory, but there are very few of these.  Some of the early 
versions of the Norton Utilities can use ANSI instead of direct screen 
writes, but this technique did not catch on because it is very slow 
compared to normal BIOS calls or direct manipulation of the screen.


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[Freedos-user] Help: FreeDOS serial support

[Lee Eric]

Hi all,

Dose FreeDOS support serial console device? Could I redirect the
contents to a serial console device like Linux? I think FreeDOS can
use serial console device.

Thanks.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: FreeDOS serial support

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Lee Eric openlinuxsou...@gmail.com wrote in
news:AANLkTik0R8PLJF5szh9Hfd9mZGqqL5sjeq0GH_=u8...@mail.gmail.com: 

 Dose FreeDOS support serial console device? Could I redirect the
 contents to a serial console device like Linux? I think FreeDOS can
 use serial console device.

Try CTTY AUX.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: FreeDOS hangs when select memory management method

[Lee Eric]

Hi,

Thanks for your reply.

My host OS is Fedora 12 x86_64. QEMU version is 0.11.0.

I also viewed the Jemm, however, what kinds of parameter I shall use
in my FreeDOS environment? I will show my fdconfig.sys file content.

!COUNTRY=001,437,C:\FDOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS
!SET lang=EN
!LASTDRIVE=Z
!BUFFERS=20
!FILES=40
!DOS=HIGH,UMB
!DOSDATA=UMB
!set dircmd=/ogn /4
!MENUCOLOR=7,0
MENUDEFAULT=2,5
MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with EMM386, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free
MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with EMM386+EMS and SHARE
MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS including HIMEM XMS-memory driver
MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS without drivers
DOS=HIGH,UMB
123?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\HIMEM.EXE
1?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\EMM386.EXE NOEMS X=TEST
2?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\EMM386.EXE X=TEST
;123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\xdma.sys
123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\xcdrom.sys /d:FDCD0001
123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\cdrcache.sys FDCD0001 CDRCACH0 6000
REM 123?INSTALL=C:\FDOS\BIN\BLACKOUT.EXE
123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\BIN\MORESYS.SYS
SHELLHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\command.com C:\FDOS\bin /E:1024 /P=C:\autoexec.bat
123?INSTALLHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\lbacache.com 6000 TUNS

As I said only option 3 is well. 1 and 2 will lead to system hangs.

Could you tell me how do I modify this file?

Thanks very much.

Regards,

Eric

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 2:01 AM, Robert Riebisch r...@bttr-software.de wrote:
 Lee Eric wrote:

 I make a small empty image and using FreeDOS CD to install FreeDOS on
 it by using qemu. It looks good to boot. There are three memory
 management methods.

 What QEMU version?
 What host OS?

 Three of them work fine. But when I use memdisk(syslinux package
 provided) to load the image, only 3rd option but work other options
 will hang. Because I need to make a FreeDOS Live CD so I need memdisk.

 The attachment is when I select 1 and 2 options output. The system hangs.

 Also I tried memdisk memory management methods like int, raw, bigraw
 but still get the same result. So what's going wrong on earth? Is
 there any way to fix that?

 Please replace EMM386 with Jemm: http://www.japheth.de/Jemm.html

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: FreeDOS hangs when select memory management method

[Christian Masloch]

 Could you tell me how do I modify this file?

You have to save the JEMM386.EXE file somewhere on the image, then replace  
C:\FDOS\BIN\EMMM386.EXE in both lines it appears in with the path to and  
file name of JEMM386.EXE. The options (behind the EMM386.EXE path) should  
work with JEMM just as well.

I would recommend updating HIMEM with HIMEMX (from the same page as JEMM)  
too. You have to do the same as with JEMM for that, just instead of  
EMM386.EXE replace the file name of HIMEM.EXE with HIMEMX.EXE.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: FreeDOS hangs when select memory management method

[Robert Riebisch]

Christian Masloch wrote:

 Could you tell me how do I modify this file?
 
 You have to save the JEMM386.EXE file somewhere on the image, then replace  
 C:\FDOS\BIN\EMMM386.EXE in both lines it appears in with the path to and  
 file name of JEMM386.EXE. The options (behind the EMM386.EXE path) should  
 work with JEMM just as well.

But virtualization / emulation might be special.
Let me quote Jemm's README.TXT:

 * If Jemm halts or reboots the machine, the following combinations
   of parameters may help to find the reason. Generally, Jemm386 should be
   loaded immediately after the XMM (HIMEMX.EXE, HIMEM.SYS), and the XMM
   itself should be the first device driver to be loaded. For testing, it
   might also help to prevent DOS from loading in the HMA and/or not to
   use UMBs at all.

   - X=A000- NOHI NOVME NOINVLPG

 This is the safest combination. If this doesn't work, Jemm most
 likely isn't compatible with the current DOS/BIOS.

   - X=TEST NOHI NOVME NOINVLPG

 This is slightly less safe, since Jemm will scan the upper memory
 region to find unused address ranges usable for UMBs. If this
 doesn't work, one has to manually set X=- to finally
 find the region which causes the troubles.

 * Jemm has been verified to run on the following virtual environments:

Qemu, VMware, VirtualPC, Bochs, VirtualBox

   However, it might be necessary to set options NOINVLPG and/or NOVME.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: FreeDOS hangs when select memory management method

[Lee Eric]

Thanks guys. It's run well with Jemm and Himemx. Perfect running!

Regards,

Eric

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Robert Riebisch r...@bttr-software.de wrote:
 Christian Masloch wrote:

 Could you tell me how do I modify this file?

 You have to save the JEMM386.EXE file somewhere on the image, then replace
 C:\FDOS\BIN\EMMM386.EXE in both lines it appears in with the path to and
 file name of JEMM386.EXE. The options (behind the EMM386.EXE path) should
 work with JEMM just as well.

 But virtualization / emulation might be special.
 Let me quote Jemm's README.TXT:

  * If Jemm halts or reboots the machine, the following combinations
   of parameters may help to find the reason. Generally, Jemm386 should be
   loaded immediately after the XMM (HIMEMX.EXE, HIMEM.SYS), and the XMM
   itself should be the first device driver to be loaded. For testing, it
   might also help to prevent DOS from loading in the HMA and/or not to
   use UMBs at all.

   - X=A000- NOHI NOVME NOINVLPG

     This is the safest combination. If this doesn't work, Jemm most
     likely isn't compatible with the current DOS/BIOS.

   - X=TEST NOHI NOVME NOINVLPG

     This is slightly less safe, since Jemm will scan the upper memory
     region to find unused address ranges usable for UMBs. If this
     doesn't work, one has to manually set X=- to finally
     find the region which causes the troubles.

  * Jemm has been verified to run on the following virtual environments:

    Qemu, VMware, VirtualPC, Bochs, VirtualBox

   However, it might be necessary to set options NOINVLPG and/or NOVME.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: USB drivers for USB mass storage devices

[Lee Eric]

It looks like I can test some of them. Thanks guys~

Eric

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 have you checked the enhanced Dr dos pages?  I know they have them, and
 are actively seeking those networking this way for test drives.
 Karen

 On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Lee Eric wrote:

 Hi,

 Thanks all. Anyway, I know there is a driver named duse. How about this one?

 Regards,

 Eric

 On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Christian Masloch c...@bttr-software.de 
 wrote:
 Is there any good USB drivers for USB mass storage like USB flash
 disk? I hope the driver can support USB 2.0.

 There's currently two drivers under development:

 Georg Potthast's DOSUSB supports UHCI, OHCI (USB 1.x) and EHCI (USB 2.0)
 controllers and comes with some drivers (e.g. a disk driver, IIRC a
 CONFIG.SYS device driver):

 http://www.georgpotthast.de/usb

 A demo version (don't know about limitations) is available for free.
 Otherwise, see this site for licence/prices:

 http://www.georgpotthast.de/usb/licencen.htm


 Bret Johnson's USBDOS package currently includes support for UHCI (some
 USB 1.x) controllers only. This means it won't work with OHCI (other USB
 1.x) controllers, and will only work at USB 1.x speeds with EHCI (USB 2.0)
 controllers if they have a companion UHCI controller. Most EHCI
 controllers either have UHCI or OHCI companion controllers. It comes with
 a disk driver TSR and some others. The programs and their entire source
 code is available free under a simple Copyleft-license (i.e. derivative
 programs have to use the same license) from Bret's pages:

 http://bretjohnson.us/

 Regards,
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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: FreeDOS hangs when select memory management method

[Robert Riebisch]

Lee Eric wrote:

 I make a small empty image and using FreeDOS CD to install FreeDOS on
 it by using qemu. It looks good to boot. There are three memory
 management methods.

What QEMU version?
What host OS?

 Three of them work fine. But when I use memdisk(syslinux package
 provided) to load the image, only 3rd option but work other options
 will hang. Because I need to make a FreeDOS Live CD so I need memdisk.
 
 The attachment is when I select 1 and 2 options output. The system hangs.
 
 Also I tried memdisk memory management methods like int, raw, bigraw
 but still get the same result. So what's going wrong on earth? Is
 there any way to fix that?

Please replace EMM386 with Jemm: http://www.japheth.de/Jemm.html

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[Freedos-user] Help: FreeDOS hangs when select memory management method

[Lee Eric]

Hi all,

I make a small empty image and using FreeDOS CD to install FreeDOS on
it by using qemu. It looks good to boot. There are three memory
management methods.

1 - Load FreeDOS with EMM386, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free
2 - Load FreeDOS with EMM386+EMS and SHARE
3 - Load FreeDOS including HIMEM XMS-memory driver

Three of them work fine. But when I use memdisk(syslinux package
provided) to load the image, only 3rd option but work other options
will hang. Because I need to make a FreeDOS Live CD so I need memdisk.

The attachment is when I select 1 and 2 options output. The system hangs.

Also I tried memdisk memory management methods like int, raw, bigraw
but still get the same result. So what's going wrong on earth? Is
there any way to fix that?

Thanks very much.

Regards,

Eric
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[Freedos-user] Help: USB drivers for USB mass storage devices

[Lee Eric]

Hi,

Is there any good USB drivers for USB mass storage like USB flash
disk? I hope the driver can support USB 2.0.

Thanks very much.

Regards,

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: USB drivers for USB mass storage devices

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On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Lee Eric openlinuxsou...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Is there any good USB drivers for USB mass storage like USB flash
 disk? I hope the driver can support USB 2.0.

http://www.freedos.org/freedos/news/newsitem/149.html

I can't get it to work with VIA chip sets, but otherwise it's fine.

 Thanks very much.

 Regards,

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: USB drivers for USB mass storage devices

[Christian Masloch]

 Is there any good USB drivers for USB mass storage like USB flash
 disk? I hope the driver can support USB 2.0.

There's currently two drivers under development:

Georg Potthast's DOSUSB supports UHCI, OHCI (USB 1.x) and EHCI (USB 2.0)  
controllers and comes with some drivers (e.g. a disk driver, IIRC a  
CONFIG.SYS device driver):

http://www.georgpotthast.de/usb

A demo version (don't know about limitations) is available for free.  
Otherwise, see this site for licence/prices:

http://www.georgpotthast.de/usb/licencen.htm


Bret Johnson's USBDOS package currently includes support for UHCI (some  
USB 1.x) controllers only. This means it won't work with OHCI (other USB  
1.x) controllers, and will only work at USB 1.x speeds with EHCI (USB 2.0)  
controllers if they have a companion UHCI controller. Most EHCI  
controllers either have UHCI or OHCI companion controllers. It comes with  
a disk driver TSR and some others. The programs and their entire source  
code is available free under a simple Copyleft-license (i.e. derivative  
programs have to use the same license) from Bret's pages:

http://bretjohnson.us/

Regards,
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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: USB drivers for USB mass storage devices

[Lee Eric]

Hi,

Thanks all. Anyway, I know there is a driver named duse. How about this one?

Regards,

Eric

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Christian Masloch c...@bttr-software.de 
wrote:
 Is there any good USB drivers for USB mass storage like USB flash
 disk? I hope the driver can support USB 2.0.

 There's currently two drivers under development:

 Georg Potthast's DOSUSB supports UHCI, OHCI (USB 1.x) and EHCI (USB 2.0)
 controllers and comes with some drivers (e.g. a disk driver, IIRC a
 CONFIG.SYS device driver):

 http://www.georgpotthast.de/usb

 A demo version (don't know about limitations) is available for free.
 Otherwise, see this site for licence/prices:

 http://www.georgpotthast.de/usb/licencen.htm


 Bret Johnson's USBDOS package currently includes support for UHCI (some
 USB 1.x) controllers only. This means it won't work with OHCI (other USB
 1.x) controllers, and will only work at USB 1.x speeds with EHCI (USB 2.0)
 controllers if they have a companion UHCI controller. Most EHCI
 controllers either have UHCI or OHCI companion controllers. It comes with
 a disk driver TSR and some others. The programs and their entire source
 code is available free under a simple Copyleft-license (i.e. derivative
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 http://bretjohnson.us/

 Regards,
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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: USB drivers for USB mass storage devices

[Karen Lewellen]

have you checked the enhanced Dr dos pages?  I know they have them, and 
are actively seeking those networking this way for test drives.
Karen

On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Lee Eric wrote:

 Hi,

 Thanks all. Anyway, I know there is a driver named duse. How about this one?

 Regards,

 Eric

 On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Christian Masloch c...@bttr-software.de 
 wrote:
 Is there any good USB drivers for USB mass storage like USB flash
 disk? I hope the driver can support USB 2.0.

 There's currently two drivers under development:

 Georg Potthast's DOSUSB supports UHCI, OHCI (USB 1.x) and EHCI (USB 2.0)
 controllers and comes with some drivers (e.g. a disk driver, IIRC a
 CONFIG.SYS device driver):

 http://www.georgpotthast.de/usb

 A demo version (don't know about limitations) is available for free.
 Otherwise, see this site for licence/prices:

 http://www.georgpotthast.de/usb/licencen.htm


 Bret Johnson's USBDOS package currently includes support for UHCI (some
 USB 1.x) controllers only. This means it won't work with OHCI (other USB
 1.x) controllers, and will only work at USB 1.x speeds with EHCI (USB 2.0)
 controllers if they have a companion UHCI controller. Most EHCI
 controllers either have UHCI or OHCI companion controllers. It comes with
 a disk driver TSR and some others. The programs and their entire source
 code is available free under a simple Copyleft-license (i.e. derivative
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 http://bretjohnson.us/

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help: USB drivers for USB mass storage devices (Lee Eric)

[Garrison Ricketson]

Just to comment,  I am useing the USBdrivers package, that Bret Johnson has, 
and for my purposes,it works great, also he responded promptly to a qusetion I 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Help with Ethernet/Wattcp

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Thanks for the help. Apparently the only thing I needed to change was in the
Protocol.ini file. I changed the value of chainvec from 0x66 to 0x68 and
then all is well (at least for now). It was working before, so I don't know
what about the old hardware would make it work with the wrong value.
Andrew


Ulrich Hansen wrote:
 
 ajouradnik schrieb:
 
 I thought I had made the changes to the config and autoexec files to set
 the
 system to the new NIC (Realtek 8100B), but when I try to run any network
 software I get a No Packet Driver Found error. 
 
 Hi Andrew,
 
 There is a packet driver for RTL8139 at:
 http://www.georgpotthast.de/sioux/packet.htm
 
 Try to use this driver for your card. Look here for more info about 
 the installation
 http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Networking_FreeDOS_-_Packet_driver_installation
 
 There's also an official DOS driver from Realtek for the 8100B at:
 http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1PNid=14PFid=6Level=5Conn=4DownTypeID=3GetDown=false
 
 Unfortunately this is not a packet driver but an NDIS driver. You can 
 use it as a packet driver anyway, but you need a converter. Look here 
 for more information about the installation:
 http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Networking_FreeDOS_-_NDIS_driver_installation
 
 You may also want to check if the software interrupt / vector is 
 correct. AFAIK most WATTCP programs expect to find the driver at 0x60. 
 Other programs look f.i. at 0x61.
 
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[Freedos-user] Help with Ethernet/Wattcp

[ajouradnik]

I have been working on updating some old hardware to a newer system, but seem
to have hit a roadblock at the ethernet stage. The old system was running
everything properly, but with the new hardware it apparently doesn't seem to
find a packet driver. Both systems are 486-based boards running FreeDOS and
I thought I had made the changes to the config and autoexec files to set the
system to the new NIC (Realtek 8100B), but when I try to run any network
software I get a No Packet Driver Found error. I don't know if it is the
hardware or configuration or our software we are trying to run, but if
anyone could provide some help, that would be great.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Help with Ethernet/Wattcp

[Ulrich Hansen]

ajouradnik schrieb:

 I thought I had made the changes to the config and autoexec files to set the
 system to the new NIC (Realtek 8100B), but when I try to run any network
 software I get a No Packet Driver Found error. 

Hi Andrew,

There is a packet driver for RTL8139 at:
http://www.georgpotthast.de/sioux/packet.htm

Try to use this driver for your card. Look here for more info about 
the installation
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Networking_FreeDOS_-_Packet_driver_installation

There's also an official DOS driver from Realtek for the 8100B at:
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1PNid=14PFid=6Level=5Conn=4DownTypeID=3GetDown=false

Unfortunately this is not a packet driver but an NDIS driver. You can 
use it as a packet driver anyway, but you need a converter. Look here 
for more information about the installation:
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Networking_FreeDOS_-_NDIS_driver_installation

You may also want to check if the software interrupt / vector is 
correct. AFAIK most WATTCP programs expect to find the driver at 0x60. 
Other programs look f.i. at 0x61.

Good luck
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Re: [Freedos-user] Help us redesign www.freedos.org

[Chris Schumann]

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Pat Villani wb2...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you're a web designer or would like to try your hand at web
 design, here's your chance. Help us update the FreeDOS web site
 design!
Was this submitted to the news sites, such as slashdot? Submitting to
designer communities would be a good idea too.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help us redesign www.freedos.org

[Pat Villani]

Actually, I did not think of it.  Thanks.

Pat


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chris.schum...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Pat Villani wb2...@gmail.com wrote:
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 design!
 Was this submitted to the news sites, such as slashdot? Submitting to
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[Freedos-user] Help us redesign www.freedos.org

[Pat Villani]

Hi all,

As you all know, the FreeDOS web site is run by volunteers, all of
which are programmers and not web designers. Now we're asking for
help.  If you're a web designer or would like to try your hand at web
design, here's your chance. Help us update the FreeDOS web site
design!

Web designers can submit their design idea via email. We'll post the
top finalists and provide a way for people to vote for their favorite
new web design.  In recognition, we'll provide a “Original site design
by your name” link in the footer. Our site gets tens of thousands of
hits per day, and that link will help you get seen.  This could be a
resume-builder for you to break into web design, or a reference for
your portfolio if you're already a professional web designer.

If you're interested, details are at Jim Hall's blog:
http://www.freedos.org/jhall/ and at
http://sourceforge.net/userapps/wordpress/jhall1/2009/10/20/are-you-a-web-developer/
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Thanks.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help files,for Dosodin,5.?(free dos)

[Eric Auer]

Hi Garry,

you probably mean the old 1 diskette distro of FreeDOS?
Then I would recommend to try the newer diskette distro
on http://rugxulo.googlepages.com/ - you can also use
the first 1 or 2 disks, no need to fetch all three :-).

You are right that many things in FreeDOS use the same
option syntax etc as in other DOSes like MS or PC DOS.

For English or German help about FreeDOS in general,
please check HTMLHELP. It is part of several distros
 (run HELP or HTMLHELP at the a: or c: prompt...)
but you can also read all the text online on the web:

http://help.fdos.org/   Please let us know if you see
any errors or find that topics that you would like to
read about are not covered yet. Thanks!

Eric

PS: Please do also let us know which commands say
incorrect dos version. Maybe you just booted
FreeDOS and then started Win9x DOS apps later?

Garrison Ricketson garryricketson at yahoo wrote:

 Hello, I am new ,but have have been useing Dosodin,5., I downloaded
 from free dos, about 6 months ago, however there never were any help
 files, since most of the commands seem to be the same as other dos

 versions, I use that...however some say incorrect dos version, so I
 am wondering if ther is a group of help files, especiallly for
 D0SODIN 5... ok I guess that si about it, I have also just a comment,

 on the USB sticks, I have made sevral,that boot the computer, and use
 Dosodin( DOS 5)..they seem to work fine, I am happy wirh them, how
 ever since I know almost nothing about this stuff, when I made the

 boot sticks, I never did make,Or know how to create  particions, if
 any one can point me to where I can learn more on makeing partitions,
 or give me some instructions, it would be appreciated...thanks



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[Freedos-user] Help files,for Dosodin,5.?(free dos)

[Garrison Ricketson]

Hello, I am new ,but have have been useing Dosodin,5., I downloaded from free 
dos, about 6 months ago, however there never were any help files, since most of 
the commands seem to be the same as other dos versions, I use that...however 
some say incorrect dos version,
so I am wondering if ther is a group of help files, especiallly for D0SODIN 5...
 ok I guess that si about it, I have also just a comment, on the USB sticks, I 
have made sevral,that boot the computer, and use Dosodin( DOS 5)..they seem to 
work fine, I am happy wirh them, how ever since I know almost nothing about 
this stuff, when I made the boot sticks, I never did make,Or know how to create 
 particions, if any one can point me to where I can learn more on makeing 
partitions, or give me some instructions, it would be appreciated...thanks, 
form 
garryricket...@yahoo.com


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Subject: [Freedos-user]  FreeDOS can't access boot partition
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Hi, FreeDOS noob here.  Grub boots FreeDOS, which puts me in my win98
partition.  FreeDOS is installed in a different partition, but when FreeDOS
is running I have no access to the partition from which FreeDOS booted. 
Help?

FreeDOS was installed from fdbasecd.iso installer.

Grub was installed by debian installer and boots FreeDOS with:
  root (hd0,1)
  savedefault
  makeactive
  chainloader +1

On boot, FreeDOS says:
  C: HD1, Pri[1], CHS=0-1-1, start=0MB, size=2098

Partitions are:
  1:  FAT32 (Win98)   ..   this is where FreeDOS puts my command
prompt
  

Re: [Freedos-user] help: need a tool to write MBR to harddisk

[muzicaichen]

Thank you for the detailed answers! :-)
Now I already have a  *.img file , it's came from  dd if=/dev/sdc 0f=*.img in 
Ubuntu , and sdc is a usb flash . I want to write the *.img to the same usb 
flash in freedos to make a linux bootalbe usb flash , do I have a simple way?  
I tried the rawrite  diskcopy  , they are all for floppy disks. 
Hoping for your answer, thanks so much! 
 


在2008-12-17，Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de 写道：

Hi!

 Today I use the command  diskcopy , but it only for floppy disk,
 is there the tool likt it but it can be used for usb flash ?

You mean for creating a bootable USB stick? Maybe makebootfat
or sys-freedos-linux can help you here:

www.ywesee.com/pmwiki.php/Site/FlashingBiosOfALinuxServer

I know, this does not install from disk image, but I would
not recommend using disk images for USB flash anyway, because
USB sticks come in all sizes and you do not have disk images
in all sizes, or at least having them would waste space on a
web server. So you better use a tool to make the stick boot
and then copy the files as files, for example after downloading
a zip with FreeDOS files. The Rugxulo diskette distro can be
useful here:

http://rugxulo.googlepages.com/

It has 3 diskettes, 2 of which already have all BASE FreeDOS
components in the versions we would use for FreeDOS 1.1 :-)
You can also get a one 2.88 MB diskette variant as single
download there, instead of downloading one zip per diskette.

Note that the make bootable tools mentioned above are not
for DOS: In DOS, you would simply use SYS instead. You may
also have to use FDISK to flag the partition on your USB
stick as bootable. You may also need FDISK /MBR to make the
MBR bootable as well. This should work if your BIOS supports
USB storage well enough. If not, or if you have to use block
device style USB drivers in DOS (if the BIOS supports USB
storage, no DOS drivers are needed, sticks will just work)
then you will be unable to use FDISK and only SYS will work.

Or of course use your Linux or Windows and a tool like the
sys-freedos-linux or makebootfat mentioned above... :-)

Eric

PS: DISKCOPY does work for non-diskette drives as well, I
believe, but as said, you will not have a diskimage which
has the correct size for your USB stick in most cases.




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Re: [Freedos-user] help: need a tool to write MBR to harddisk

[Alain M.]

Eric Auer escreveu:
 Hi!
 
 Why not use SYS? It does this (although not like dd.)
 SYS writes the FreeDOS boot to MBR.
 
 No - SYS writes to the boot sector of the partition.
 It NEVER writes to the MBR.

Correct: the program that does that id fdisk, this way:

   fdisk /MBR

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Re: [Freedos-user] help: need a tool to write MBR to harddisk

[Jim Hall]

D'oh. Was thinking of FDISK /MBR.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote:

 Hi!

 Why not use SYS? It does this (although not like dd.)
 SYS writes the FreeDOS boot to MBR.

 No - SYS writes to the boot sector of the partition.
 It NEVER writes to the MBR. The SYS of other DOS and
 Win9x never write the MBR either, but for example the
 FIXMBR tool of Windows does write the MBR...

 If you want to read/write the MBR, you can for example
 use FreeDOS FDISK. It does not only let you edit the
 partitioning manually, but it also features a variety
 of script-controlled commands, including backup and
 restore of the MBR :-). Please use FDISK 1.3.1 or newer,
 as previous versions sometimes tried to recover from
 problems by deleting the whole partition table without
 first asking the user!

 www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/fdisk/

 Eric

 PS: Note that because SYS only takes care of the boot
 sector, you can only boot primary partitions marked as
 bootable directly. However, boot menus can help you to
 invoke DOS boot sectors on other locations as well :-)




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Re: [Freedos-user] help: need a tool to write MBR to harddisk

[jhall]

Why not use SYS? It does this (although not like dd.) SYS writes the
FreeDOS boot to MBR.

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[Freedos-user] help: need a tool to write MBR to harddisk

[muzicaichen]

Hi !Everyone!
Now I need a tool (like linux dd  command) in freedos to write MBR to 
harddisk , can you help me?  
Thanks!
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Re: [Freedos-user] help: need a tool to write MBR to harddisk

[Michael Reichenbach]

Which utility you are talking about?

Джандуарлем Абдулаихим schrieb:
 These utility you can write itself in the Turbo-C 2.0. It's a simply - reads 
  write series of sectors as one big string of data. Use biosdisk() function 
 for make them result.
 
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Re: [Freedos-user] help: need a tool to write MBR to harddisk

[muzicaichen]

Thank you for all the answers! 
Today I use the command  diskcopy , but it only for floppy disk,  is there 
the tool likt it but it can be used for usb flash ? 
 


在2008-12-16，Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org 写道：
D'oh. Was thinking of FDISK /MBR.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote:

 Hi!

 Why not use SYS? It does this (although not like dd.)
 SYS writes the FreeDOS boot to MBR.

 No - SYS writes to the boot sector of the partition.
 It NEVER writes to the MBR. The SYS of other DOS and
 Win9x never write the MBR either, but for example the
 FIXMBR tool of Windows does write the MBR...

 If you want to read/write the MBR, you can for example
 use FreeDOS FDISK. It does not only let you edit the
 partitioning manually, but it also features a variety
 of script-controlled commands, including backup and
 restore of the MBR :-). Please use FDISK 1.3.1 or newer,
 as previous versions sometimes tried to recover from
 problems by deleting the whole partition table without
 first asking the user!

 www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/fdisk/

 Eric

 PS: Note that because SYS only takes care of the boot
 sector, you can only boot primary partitions marked as
 bootable directly. However, boot menus can help you to
 invoke DOS boot sectors on other locations as well :-)




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[Freedos-user] help for the freedos bugzilla

[Markus H. Maussner]

hi

sorry for somehow offtopic and posting to the 2 ml's but i know of ppl who
are just in one of them...

the freedos bugzilla runs on one of my systems.
but its too slow and sometimes theres errors. this is because its running
on a rather small box. long storry why etc.
is there somebody who wants to take over the task moving the stuff from
one site to the other.
the current one is a debian box the target system is a solaris10 container
(shouldnt make much problems since it runs on perl and thats avalible on
both systems)

it got moved twice and everytime there where some problems, (missing perl
stuff, css not right etc etc). the person who helped bevore is right now
covered with work and told me he cant help in the near future.

regards

tassilo


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Re: [Freedos-user] Help linking to Borland Turbo C project to external object file ?

[Simon Townsend]

We are learning alot! :-)

Simon


- Original Message 
From: Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Saturday, 22 March, 2008 6:23:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Help linking to Borland Turbo C project to external 
object file ?

Hi!

21-Мар-2008 22:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Simon Townsend) wrote to
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:

ST Thankyou!, we eventually created a .lib file from the object file we had
ST using TCLIB, then the rest became easy!
ST  TCC BGIDEMO.C GRAPHICS.LIBEnter

Not need to make library from object file, just specify object file
directly:

tcc src1.c src2.c moxa1.obj moxa2.obj

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help linking to Borland Turbo C project to external object file ?

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

21-Мар-2008 22:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Simon Townsend) wrote to
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:

ST Thankyou!, we eventually created a .lib file from the object file we had
ST using TCLIB, then the rest became easy!
ST   TCC BGIDEMO.C GRAPHICS.LIBEnter

 Not need to make library from object file, just specify object file
directly:

tcc src1.c src2.c moxa1.obj moxa2.obj

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Re: [Freedos-user] Help linking to Borland Turbo C project to external object file ?

[Simon Townsend]

Thankyou!, we eventually created a .lib file from the object file we had using 
TCLIB, then the rest became easy! We have been using borland turbo because of 
the nature of the object files provided by Moxa for accessing an RS485 card in 
DOS, we needed a borland compiler which could run in Freedos. Pacific which is 
with Freedos is much nicer but would not seem to accept the moxa dos header 
files.
Its amazing how much faster the command line compiler is than the IDE.
Now we can get on with our simple DMX controller system!

Best wishes

Simon

- Original Message 
From: Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Friday, 21 March, 2008 5:21:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Help linking to Borland Turbo C project to external 
object file ?

Hi!

21-Фев-2008 23:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Simon Townsend) wrote to Freedos users
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:

ST We've managed to get Borland Turbo C 2.0 to compile a large model test file
ST without error, but we need to link to an OBJ file provided by the
ST manufacturer of the card.
ST How do we tell the Borland development environemt that we need to link to
ST this OBJ ?

If you mean TC IDE, then open Project menu and press F1. Then you will
read:


In its simplest form, the project file is
just a list of the C source file names that
make up your program.


Also, take a look at examples of TC2 - there is, for example, mcalc.prj.

ST We know that the object file contains the externals we need, because if we
ST TLINK to the OBJ at the command line they get resolved, but if we link at
ST the command line, printf and various other parts of the C libraries aren't
ST getting resolved, and just linking to CL.LIB wasn't enough to resolve all

...But if you need command line, just specify required .obj file at TCC
command line between source files. For example, read HELPME!.DOC, especially
next topic:


Q. Why does the linker tell me that all the graphics library
  routines are undefined?
A. TCC will not search the graphics library unless you tell it to.
  You should specify the graphics library on the command line. For
  example, to compile BGIDEMO, type

  TCC BGIDEMO.C GRAPHICS.LIBEnter


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Re: [Freedos-user] Help linking to Borland Turbo C project to external object file ?

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

21-Фев-2008 23:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Simon Townsend) wrote to Freedos users
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:

ST We've managed to get Borland Turbo C 2.0 to compile a large model test file
ST without error, but we need to link to an OBJ file provided by the
ST manufacturer of the card.
ST How do we tell the Borland development environemt that we need to link to
ST this OBJ ?

 If you mean TC IDE, then open Project menu and press F1. Then you will
read:


In its simplest form, the project file is
just a list of the C source file names that
make up your program.


Also, take a look at examples of TC2 - there is, for example, mcalc.prj.

ST We know that the object file contains the externals we need, because if we
ST TLINK to the OBJ at the command line they get resolved, but if we link at
ST the command line, printf and various other parts of the C libraries aren't
ST getting resolved, and just linking to CL.LIB wasn't enough to resolve all

 ...But if you need command line, just specify required .obj file at TCC
command line between source files. For example, read HELPME!.DOC, especially
next topic:


Q. Why does the linker tell me that all the graphics library
   routines are undefined?
A. TCC will not search the graphics library unless you tell it to.
   You should specify the graphics library on the command line. For
   example, to compile BGIDEMO, type

   TCC BGIDEMO.C GRAPHICS.LIBEnter


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Re: [Freedos-user] HELP: Turbo C++ 3.0 won't run

[Robert Riebisch]

Andrew Wan schrieb:

 The most confusing part was the:
 KWC8616.sys, KWC8632.sys
 KWC38616.sys, KWC38632.sys
 files. I assume KWC86xx.sys is for 8086, 80286? But why two different 
 architectures... and why 16-bit and 32-bit versions? Does that mean we 
 can load pure 16-bit FreeDOS, or real 32-bit FreeDOS?

IIRC xx16.sys ist for FAT16 while xx32.sys has support for FAT16 and FAT32.

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[Freedos-user] HELP: Turbo C++ 3.0 won't run

[Andrew Wan]

Am using latest FreeDOS 1.0 version, from BASECD.iso.
 
1. Load FreeDOS with EMM386, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free
2. Load FreeDOS with EMM386+EMS and SHARE
3. Load FreeDOS including HIMEM XMS-memory driver
4. Load FreeDOS without drivers
 
When I try 1  2 options, Turbo C++ 3.0 commandline compiler reboots my Bochs. 
When I load option 3, then Turbo C++ 3.0 commandline compiler works 100%, 
compiles all my graphics example code and the built exe runs perfectly.
 
However I want to load Turbo C++ 3.0 IDE aswell. None of the options 1, 2, 3 
were able to load Turbo C++ 3.0 IDE. I type tc.exe and nothing happens. I just 
see the command prompt again.
 
 
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Re: [Freedos-user] HELP: Turbo C++ 3.0 won't run

[Eric Auer]

Hi Andrew,

 Am using latest FreeDOS 1.0 version, from BASECD.iso.
 When I try 1  2 options, Turbo C++ 3.0 commandline compiler
 reboots my Bochs. When I load option 3, then Turbo C++ 3.0
 commandline compiler works 100%, compiles all my graphics
 example code and the built exe runs perfectly.

Options 1 and 2 are with EMM386. Try replacing EMM386 EXE and
use the updated JEMM386 EXE from www.japheth.de - that might
be more compatible to your Bochs. Do also read the docs - if
you find that you need specific command line options to make
JEMM386 behave right, please let us know which ones you needed.

 However I want to load Turbo C++ 3.0 IDE aswell.
 None of the options 1, 2, 3 were able to load Turbo C++
 3.0 IDE. I type tc.exe and nothing happens. I just see
 the command prompt again.

This is a known problem: The IDE says it wants, say, 1.2 MB
of DOS RAM. It expects DOS to give it 0.2 MB (the part after
the decimal point) and a DOS extender to give it 1 MB more.
FreeDOS 1.0 simply reasoned you do not have 1.2 MB free in
your 640 kB of DOS memory, so the IDE cannot run. However,
there is a simple fix for this: Please use the KERNEL SYS of
a newer version, for example http://rugxulo.googlepages.com/
instead of your normal kernel sys (in the root directory).
Newer versions are aware of the exotic style of the TC3 IDE
and can run it without problems :-).

Eric

PS: The TC3 IDE issue is also explained in more detail in
our bugzilla database, see the bugs link on our homepage.


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Re: [Freedos-user] HELP: Turbo C++ 3.0 won't run

[Andrew Wan]

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Options 1 and 2 are with EMM386. Try replacing 
 EMM386 EXE and use the updated JEMM386 EXE from www.japheth.de - that might 
 be more compatible to your Bochs. Do also read the docs - if you find that 
 you need specific command line options to make JEMM386 behave right, please 
 let us know which ones you needed. Cool, I downloaded Jemm 5.71 and pasted 
 the EXEs/DLLs into C:\FDOS\BIN. I briefly read the docs and notice that it's 
 args are similar to emm386.exe... so I just basically changed default 
 fdconfig.sys 2 lines from emm386.exe (NOEMS) X=TESTto jemm386.exe (NOEMS) 
 X=TESTwhere you miss out the brackets for option 1 during bootup. Still 
 tcc.exe  tc.exe crashes when I load option 1  2 (JEMM386 loading). However 
 option 3 for tcc.exe still works (like before). I don't know what args I can 
 use... do you want me to try them all???
 This is a known problem: The IDE says it wants, say, 1.2 MB of DOS RAM. It 
 expects DOS to give it 0.2 MB (the part after the decimal point) and a DOS 
 extender to give it 1 MB more. FreeDOS 1.0 simply reasoned you do not have 
 1.2 MB free in your 640 kB of DOS memory, so the IDE cannot run. However, 
 there is a simple fix for this: Please use the KERNEL SYS of a newer 
 version, for example http://rugxulo.googlepages.com/ instead of your normal 
 kernel sys (in the root directory). Newer versions are aware of the exotic 
 style of the TC3 IDE and can run it without problems :-).I downloaded 
 ke2007sep15.zip (assuming this is the latest). His other files were 
 kernel2036-binary, krn2037b.zip, ke2007jul21, ke2007aug20, ke2007aug26, 
 ke2007sep07.zips so I think they are old. The most confusing part was 
 the:KWC8616.sys, KWC8632.sysKWC38616.sys, KWC38632.sysfiles. I assume 
 KWC86xx.sys is for 8086, 80286? But why two different architectures... and 
 why 16-bit and 32-bit versions? Does that mean we can load pure 16-bit 
 FreeDOS, or real 32-bit FreeDOS? Anyway, I renamed KWC38632.sys to kernel.sys 
 and put that in C:\... there was also a sys.com in the downloaded zip file, 
 so I pasted that in C:\FDOS\BIN. Turbo C++ 3.0 IDE loads up now :) unlike 
 before... - BUT ONLY in option 3 (without JEMM386.exe). I wonder why 
 http://www.fdos.org/kernel/ stable didn't work.. maybe because it was last 
 compiled in 2006 
 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=5109). And I see 
 there's FreeCOM (command.com replacement). Do I need that? Or does FreeDOS 
 BASE ISO 1.0 already contain a good-enough version?
  EricCheers Eric!
  PS: The TC3 IDE issue is also explained in more detail in our bugzilla 
  database, see the bugs link on our homepage. You mean here: 
  http://www.freedos.org/bugzilla/cgi-bin/index.cgi ?
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[Freedos-user] Help linking to Borland Turbo C project to external object file ?

[Simon Townsend]

We're trying to produce an EXE file to drive a Moxa RS485 card.

We've managed to get Borland Turbo C 2.0 to compile a large model test file 
without error, but we need to link to an OBJ file provided by the manufacturer 
of the card.

How do we tell the Borland development environemt that we need to link to this 
OBJ ?

We know that the object file contains the externals we need, because if we 
TLINK to the OBJ at the command line they get resolved, but if we link at the 
command line, printf and various other parts of the C libraries aren't getting 
resolved, and just linking to CL.LIB wasn't enough to resolve all the externls 
that seem to be needed.  It will probably be simplest if we can find out how to 
do it from within the development environment.

Can anybody help please ?


Many thanks !  Simon.


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[Freedos-user] HELP! i have problem with SBLIVE 5.1 driver in FreeDos.

[Alexey Kretsu]

i buyed freedos Full CD version from cheapbyte
then i installed them , i tryed to load driver for my creative SBlive 5.1 card.
at startup, sbeinit.com driver NOT loading.
--
Creative SB16 Emulation Driver, Version 5.00
Copyright(c) 1996-2001, Creative Technology Ltd., All Rights Reserved.

Creative Audio @ Port d800, IRQ 7
error: Counld not allocate code/patch RAM below 4 Mbyte boundary. Try
loading SBEINIT.COM before SMARTDRV.EXE or minimizing VDISK RAM.
Creative SB16 Emulation driver NOT loading.
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Re: [Freedos-user] HELP! i have problem with SBLIVE 5.1 driver in FreeDos.

[Japheth]

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 Creative SB16 Emulation Driver, Version 5.00
 Copyright(c) 1996-2001, Creative Technology Ltd., All Rights Reserved.
 
 Creative Audio @ Port d800, IRQ 7
 error: Counld not allocate code/patch RAM below 4 Mbyte boundary. Try
 loading SBEINIT.COM before SMARTDRV.EXE or minimizing VDISK RAM.
 Creative SB16 Emulation driver NOT loading.
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 i dos lover  , in freedos im new! :) help me all.

With the SB Live emulation driver, you must avoid loading huge XMS memory 
consumers in config.sys and/or autoexec.bat. Usually such consumers are cache 
programs (LBACACHE, SmartDrive, UIDE, ...).

If you need the cache drivers, then FIRST load the SBLive driver and THEN the 
cache program.


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[Freedos-user] Help With Install

[Brian Greig]

I tried installing free dos on my computer.  After I select install  
in the menu it loads up to a grey screen and then stays there.  How  
do I get it to finish the install.  Thanks

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[Freedos-user] Help needed! Test for compatibility

[Johnson Lam]

Dear Users,

A few people reporting the compatibility of Jack's QDMA driver
recently, so Jack working hard to improve them. Can anyone help to
test?

http://johnson.tmfc.net

Now QHIMEM and QDMA should be able to run in FreeDOS, DR-DOS and
MS-DOS without problem (I've tested FreeDOS and DR-DOS, but no time to
test MS-DOS), glad if someone can really help to test.

***QDMA now have Sector Caching, performance almost same with the
CACHE2 but only consume 1712 bytes and no extra XMS!

Thanks.

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